Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: What I think too? Headless's Magical mail Bag. I got
Speaker 1: my co host with me, fresh back from the Cosmic Summit.
Speaker 2: Hi, Nick, how you doing good?
Speaker 1: Good? Hell?
Speaker 2: Are you? Thank you very much having me back looking
Speaker 2: forward to this. This is the first time podcasting since
Speaker 2: I've been done.
Speaker 1: Right, we were just talking all about it while we
Speaker 1: were off the air. That's why I relate everybody is
Speaker 1: I'm showing you don't have any bail, right, we don't
Speaker 1: have any mail this week, so we're gonna go deep
Speaker 1: in depth into a couple of symbols that are gonna
Speaker 1: hopefully blow your mind. Do you want to go first
Speaker 1: and then I'll take it over. Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me just pull up the images. I had
Speaker 3: your video pulled up first, so just give me a second.
Speaker 4: Sorry about that, Yeah, I hate so uh yeah, I
Speaker 4: was gonna say, I do have the I have a
Speaker 4: sigil from the Pika tricks to let people know before
Speaker 4: I get to it.
Speaker 2: Shire screen. Here we go. There we go. All right,
Speaker 2: you can share that sir if you don't mind, please.
Speaker 2: You got it awesome?
Speaker 3: So yeah, that is one side We'll get to the
Speaker 3: other side later. That is one side for the talisman
Speaker 3: of the Moon from the Pika Trix. Again, it's from
Speaker 3: the Pika Trix, and that is a tenth to eleventh
Speaker 3: century supposedly grimoire on Estrological on talismanic Magic, which was
Speaker 3: later translated into Latin in the thirteenth century. This is
Speaker 3: considered one of the most comprehensive medieval handbook of astrological magic.
Speaker 3: The Pika Tricks draws from Hermeticism, Neoplatonism, astrology, and Arabic
Speaker 3: or whatever occult traditions descriptions for this image. One side
Speaker 3: which I will show next, actually real quick at least
Speaker 3: movie there you go. This looks a little different. One
Speaker 3: side this depicts a man with a bird's head leaning
Speaker 3: on a staff holding a blossoming tree, an iconic icon
Speaker 3: from moon talismans in the Pika Trix. And then the
Speaker 3: next side will be the seal surrounded by the Grand
Speaker 3: Planetary Seal of Luna has geometric curves combined with celestial
Speaker 3: symbols and lunar glyphs. This image that I'm going to
Speaker 3: show you now switch back to even when you look
Speaker 3: up planetary the planetary sigil for the moon, like with
Speaker 3: the gripper and the magical squares. It even looks like
Speaker 3: that too, so you know it does come from that
Speaker 3: as well. I guess where they share that same idea.
Speaker 3: A description in the text Pika Tricks, Book two, chapter
Speaker 3: ten details this image and lunar seal for talismanic creation.
Speaker 3: It's further mentioned in book four tying specific lunar mansions
Speaker 3: to outcomes. This would normally be for like good things,
Speaker 3: other primary purposes and uses. The primary intention guides and
Speaker 3: guides the wearer to hidden knowledge, dream insights, protection, well being,
Speaker 3: and good fortune, especially on journeys. To make it created
Speaker 3: at the correct lunar hour during the moon's exaltation, often
Speaker 3: in Taurus. And if some people don't know when it
Speaker 3: comes to magic, if you want to start making these
Speaker 3: things each day, obviously there's a planet with it, and
Speaker 3: then each hour there is an hour for each planet.
Speaker 3: If you want to get real specific, if you want,
Speaker 3: you can use incense. They suggest MUCKs, muss or mastic
Speaker 3: anybody's ever. I never heard of mastic. It's a little
Speaker 3: pricey because I think the only place you can really
Speaker 3: get it from is grease.
Speaker 2: But I really love that shit. That shit smells amazing.
Speaker 3: Use that while reciting invocations to the Moon's intelligence ruling spirit.
Speaker 3: The charm then works passively. Most power comes from timely
Speaker 3: creation and inscription in the Pika trips. Some notable historical references.
Speaker 3: Agrippa has mentioned it before, Ficino has used it before,
Speaker 3: and Ashmole has also and nowadays, if people tend to
Speaker 3: use it, it's frequently. They frequently craft these talismans, using
Speaker 3: them for protection, psychic enhancement, health and spiritual work.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, and it's made a lot in jewelry.
Speaker 2: It seems to be one of the ones that you
Speaker 2: will see in.
Speaker 3: Jewelry a lot. But yeah, I mean, I guess that's
Speaker 3: really about it on this one.
Speaker 1: What's a beautiful sid And I gotta I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you your work on Fatino was amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
Speaker 1: Guys haven't seen that yet. Definitely check that out. That
Speaker 1: is that is phenomenal work. I think you really nailed
Speaker 1: the spirit of what he was trying to go for
Speaker 1: and sort of bringing back all of this, uh you know,
Speaker 1: neo Platinism to the Enlightenment. You know, that's that's a
Speaker 1: huge accomplishment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think it was a lot of
Speaker 2: people try.
Speaker 1: To downplay the Enlightenment, but you know, I mean, basically,
Speaker 1: this is the guy that told people, hey, it's okay
Speaker 1: to read because you know, for a long time it
Speaker 1: was not okay to read in Europe and they were
Speaker 1: they were failing because of it. And he's like, no, guys,
Speaker 1: it's okay to read this stuff. This is really good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna translate it for you. And so it took off.
Speaker 1: Everybody started reading Facino and it was just, you know,
Speaker 1: it was game odd in Europe. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: like a thousand years of darkness until that guy. So
Speaker 1: and that was all occultism too.
Speaker 3: People, Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, it's interesting how some
Speaker 3: of this stuff has carried on into like religion and
Speaker 3: people don't even realize it came from an alchemist slice
Speaker 3: the cultist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's yeah. I think he's a very interesting
Speaker 2: character for people to learn about. So go check it
Speaker 2: out if you haven't, thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, to go to go back into it
Speaker 1: a little bit. Wasn't your interview with that guy with
Speaker 1: the awesome name who was under Manly p Hall he
Speaker 1: was talking about Facino too, No, no, no, he was he
Speaker 1: was on your show with oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He was mentioning Facino too, And you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's a good sign that we're getting so much Facino.
Speaker 1: I've heard it like on four or five other podcasts
Speaker 1: as well. They're talking about this guy, and I think
Speaker 1: maybe we could be in for something like that, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of that Facino energy is really good stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: he tried to be successful in a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but the only thing he could be successful at was
Speaker 1: this translation of the Platonic Works into you know, the
Speaker 1: contemporary European languages from ancient Greek, and so that was uh,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: They wanted to kick him out of the church at
Speaker 2: one point too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they investigated him.
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, you're teaching people to read, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: no reading aloud?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think they I think the way
Speaker 3: he pulled it off, he's like, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: talking about Jesus, so some shiit like he threw like,
Speaker 3: you know, you had like a religious twist on it.
Speaker 2: And that's how he kind of got away with it.
Speaker 2: You know, you knew, I guess knew what he was doing, right.
Speaker 1: No, he was integrating the pagan ways with the Christian
Speaker 1: ways because the crazy people read right, and you know,
Speaker 1: all of this stuff about the trivium and the quadrivium,
Speaker 1: all of that comes from occultism. You know, all of
Speaker 1: the ways of learning came up through this Greek style
Speaker 1: of occultism. And you know, people just don't realize it,
Speaker 1: but that's how we reascended to where we were at
Speaker 1: in the industrial age. And it's like keeping a lid
Speaker 1: on that stuff, you know, really does affect humanity after
Speaker 1: a long period of time. And I think we're seeing
Speaker 1: the results of that now, you know what we're living
Speaker 1: through with you know, all this war fever and people
Speaker 1: just being sucked right back into it. They have no
Speaker 1: critical thinking skills. It's just like Trump says it, therefore
Speaker 1: it's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got to get out of that mode. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But even for just just so go ahead, go ahead, No, no,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say real quick, just to even
Speaker 3: I guess promote the next solo one that comes out
Speaker 3: will be Jacob Boehm, and then after that I should
Speaker 3: have Tycho Brahe.
Speaker 1: So oh that's gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of yo, right, I don't
Speaker 3: think most people know that about it or even know
Speaker 3: the guy exists, and it's like, yo, that guy basically
Speaker 3: other people kind of pimped out his work, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yo, But he was huge personal.
Speaker 5: Nose chops.
Speaker 2: Yeah he put that in there. I got that in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah that Yo.
Speaker 3: He found that later on that I think he was
Speaker 3: born with like a stillborn twin and like he wrote
Speaker 3: a poem about that ship and stuff.
Speaker 2: He definitely yo.
Speaker 3: He even he even married like a commoner, but had
Speaker 3: it do it in a fucked up way because he
Speaker 3: was like, no, I'm sorry, I'm not marrying somebody of
Speaker 3: my class just because I have to. I love this
Speaker 3: woman and she's not fucking whatever. And he did some
Speaker 3: other way that made them legally married. It definitely had
Speaker 3: an interesting life and it didn't live too long either, right.
Speaker 1: His calculation survived to this day. Like he was that
Speaker 1: accurate with his observations. He was in the.
Speaker 3: Plane with that ship. He was so he was saying
Speaker 3: that we could be so much more specific. He started
Speaker 3: building his own ship because he was like, this isn't
Speaker 3: specific enough.
Speaker 2: The guy was crazy, but he was onto something.
Speaker 1: Again. It's a it's another one of these characters that
Speaker 1: just gets no attention because when you look at the
Speaker 1: Tychobrahi's stuff and his model of the universe, he was
Speaker 1: mathematically one hundred percent correct, even more so that our
Speaker 1: current geos heliocentric model. People go back to his work
Speaker 1: to actually calculate where the planets are because their model
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily fully comprehend the mathematics like he did. Tell me,
Speaker 1: that's not weird, you know, Yeah, I mean we get
Speaker 1: a lot of lies from NASA and these cosmologists, and
Speaker 1: if you go back to people like Tychobrahi and Ficino,
Speaker 1: you start to learn about what it was before this
Speaker 1: kind of blob. Well, no, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: that going on in road too. There is a lot
Speaker 1: of bureaucracy blob shit happening before Christianity, but it seems
Speaker 1: like Christianity kind of just systematized it and pushed it
Speaker 1: in everybody's faces all the time, Which brings me to
Speaker 1: my next symbol. All right, this right here is something else.
Speaker 1: I look this up when I was going through more
Speaker 1: Carthaginian art. This is a mosaic from the early Christian
Speaker 1: period in Carthage. Can I ask you what what do
Speaker 1: you see there?
Speaker 2: Nick? There's a lot of shit. I mean, uh, I
Speaker 2: believe it or not. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I think those two birds in the cross might be
Speaker 3: like it almost reminds me of eyes, but I mean
Speaker 3: the cross donkey, you know, and then I don't know
Speaker 3: why that makes me think of the Democrat Party right away.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of symbolism I think in here.
Speaker 3: Actually I thought it was anything specific. Uh, I would
Speaker 3: even say, like the things on.
Speaker 1: The side deceptively simple.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that is true. Yeah, but I think there's
Speaker 3: actually some deep shit in here. But it does look
Speaker 3: very just like artwork there, just blah art stuff, right.
Speaker 1: I do like it though, kind of a face it
Speaker 1: faded look with all the tiles, right, it's not necessarily vibrant.
Speaker 1: But what we're seeing here, I think blows the lid
Speaker 1: off of what was happening with early Christianity. And what
Speaker 1: we see here is the two donkeys underneath the cross. Right.
Speaker 1: So there's something very strange about these donkeys' faces. They're
Speaker 1: not really donkey faces, right, they kind of look like
Speaker 1: ant eaters, which is the exactly this is the exact
Speaker 1: glyph for set the Egyptian devil, and Set was something
Speaker 1: interesting when it comes to Christianity because Seth in Greek
Speaker 1: is Set and Seth is the third son of Adam
Speaker 1: and Eve. This is the one who has the line
Speaker 1: of Set. So everybody coming from the line of Set
Speaker 1: or Setian, right, they're from Set and that comes from Egypt,
Speaker 1: that comes from Set worship. So Moses also wrote this
Speaker 1: donkey and in the Temple of Solomon, during the reign
Speaker 1: of Antiochus Sepafanis, he raided that temple and there was
Speaker 1: a massive golden donkey head inside of the temple that
Speaker 1: they were worshiping. So Moses, donkey Set all comes from Egypt,
Speaker 1: all comes from Set worship. Now who is this guy Set?
Speaker 1: He was the guy who chopped Osirius up in tiny
Speaker 1: little pieces. He was the Egyptian form of the devil
Speaker 1: or the bad guy. He was doing horrible things to
Speaker 1: his brother and Isis and so he was also the
Speaker 1: god of foreigners and storms. Right, and the Carthaginians had
Speaker 1: a extensive relationship with the Egyptians. They knew everything Egypt did.
Speaker 1: They were very very integral to Egyptian's success because Egypt
Speaker 1: was the bread basket for the rest of the Mediterranean.
Speaker 1: So how did they ship all their wheat through the Carthaginians.
Speaker 1: The Carthaginians and the Egyptians had a long period of
Speaker 1: cultural exchange into the time period of the writing of
Speaker 1: the Septuagint, which has again this set motif. So who
Speaker 1: are the Canaanite Phoenicians? Right? Who are these people that
Speaker 1: are talking about anolatry? Now, in the first century, first
Speaker 1: and second century AD, the common insult towards Christians and
Speaker 1: Jews was to call them anolotors because the Greeks and
Speaker 1: Romans said they were worshiping a donkey, a donkey head set.
Speaker 1: It was commonly known back then. For some reason, everybody
Speaker 1: forgot so, yeah, they used to call monolots. There's this
Speaker 1: one graffiti called the Alexandros Graffito, which shows Jesus on
Speaker 1: across with the donkey head, and it says Alexandros worships
Speaker 1: this god and Alexandros was some Roman centurion, and so
Speaker 1: he's making fun of the guy for worshiping this donkey
Speaker 1: head in christ Weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Very common as an insult, But it seems like the
Speaker 1: only group of people that are embracing it. Are the Carthaginians,
Speaker 1: which means that they probably wrote the damn Book and
Speaker 1: they knew what it was about, so worshiping the Egyptian devil.
Speaker 1: These four guys around the outside, turning the world are
Speaker 1: the gospel authors, right. These are the you know, Matthew, Mark,
Speaker 1: Luca John. They are moving the world with the gospel
Speaker 1: of set worship. That is weird, it's deceptively simple. And
Speaker 1: what are these roosters with the nice little coal montage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're talking about a braxis we're talking about These
Speaker 1: are the gods of the Phoenicians.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The rooster held deep importance to the Phoenicians. You could
Speaker 1: see it all over their stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting when you can actually see it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, And this one right here, there's ah you can't
Speaker 1: really zoom in, but uh over to the right of
Speaker 1: the figure. Right, this is again TANet TANet worship over
Speaker 1: to the right of the figure. You can't really see
Speaker 1: it on this kind of way. It's the exact same
Speaker 1: it's the exact same rooster as the one you see here.
Speaker 1: It's the same motif. This Carthaginian rooster is a very
Speaker 1: common theme throughout their artwork even to this day.
Speaker 2: You know what was interesting actively simple?
Speaker 3: The temple has brought up the rooster. The temples brought
Speaker 3: up the rooster in their at their lecture as a symbol.
Speaker 1: And the templars come through the mystery schools. The Templars
Speaker 1: come through the mystery schools. Where did the Carthaginians end
Speaker 1: up retreating to when they sort of left prominence and
Speaker 1: became Syrians, They went into the mystery schools. The Knights
Speaker 1: Templar were the ones that sailed as to the New World.
Speaker 1: That's what was on the big old sales is the
Speaker 1: Knight's Templar Cross. And they came through Portugal, which was
Speaker 1: the home of the Knights Templar. All of these groups
Speaker 1: go back to Carthage. This is how they knew about
Speaker 1: the New World because they had been sailing there for
Speaker 1: thousands of years. Right. So the Carthaginians were also the Manoans,
Speaker 1: and the Manoans were the arms dealers of the Mediterranean.
Speaker 1: They were collecting copper from Michigan and they were taking
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about, guys. They're still in control.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. There's an ominous continuity between all
Speaker 1: of this Carthaginian shit, and it's right in the background
Speaker 1: of a lot of things. And I wanted to show
Speaker 1: everybody what I think is a tant ritual based off
Speaker 1: of this inscription of TANet right here. Now, I know
Speaker 1: I've probably shown it to you guys before, but the
Speaker 1: stellas of TANet look exactly like this. Gloria Steinem or no,
Speaker 1: not Steinem, what's her name. It's the mother of Anderson Cooper, right,
Speaker 1: Gloria Vanderbilt. Gloria Vanderbilt has this image of TANet above
Speaker 1: her bed right, and so this is Anderson Cooper right
Speaker 1: here on the right. And then his sacrifice of a
Speaker 1: brother who died at fifteen years old. Now, TANet is
Speaker 1: the goddess of human sacrifice, and Carter, Anderson Cooper's brother
Speaker 1: died at fifteen of supposed suicide. Oh wow, the older
Speaker 1: brother getting whacked because the oldest son gets sacrificed in
Speaker 1: TANet worship. Right, So this is what's happening. Now. If
Speaker 1: you see above Tannate, you see that all seeing eye
Speaker 1: that's all over the stelee for TANet worship in Carthage,
Speaker 1: all around Syria and Israel, all of these places at
Speaker 1: the tafits. They have that all saying eye above the
Speaker 1: tannate motif, that triangular goddess with the circle head, triangular goddess,
Speaker 1: circle head arms out. That's tannate right, It's a very
Speaker 1: simple geometric shape. So uh, this tant worship I believe
Speaker 1: goes on inside of movies that are fairly recent as well.
Speaker 1: So I thought i'd pull up this clip. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna get me whacked or not, but
Speaker 1: this is from tank Girl.
Speaker 5: Look, you have choices to improve that lovely hair.
Speaker 6: Did are you saying for us?
Speaker 1: Fine? All right?
Speaker 7: What do you want me to sing?
Speaker 1: Notice the colors figure.
Speaker 5: Cut it off.
Speaker 7: Queen the little blue bird, who has never said a word,
Speaker 7: starts to sing.
Speaker 1: Spring those dice.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: Blue clerk, in the middle.
Speaker 7: Of his work, starts at tuned to the moon. It's
Speaker 7: is nature, that's so simply, it.
Speaker 1: Is the dades.
Speaker 5: You can't let's do it.
Speaker 1: Could be killing people as well.
Speaker 5: As exact it.
Speaker 6: Let's see, let's running the audience of rats.
Speaker 2: They say this.
Speaker 6: Upper crust ladies do it when a gentleman's.
Speaker 1: Oh looks like a kidnap victim. Come on, I'll take shot.
Speaker 6: Why do we do it?
Speaker 3: Don't have.
Speaker 1: A little cap station. Oh it looks the labels the
Speaker 1: top because of jump lighting the sacrifice.
Speaker 5: Or what's that stage made.
Speaker 1: Aut it black and white squirts.
Speaker 4: It's an all seeing guy in a trial though, What
Speaker 4: the hell is that?
Speaker 1: Sons like cold porter to me said and it sure, sure.
Speaker 5: You do, all seeing guy in the fair bod.
Speaker 1: Oh there's the smoke. Now we're gonna start the burnt offerings.
Speaker 2: Yo. You know what I told I was.
Speaker 1: Gonna start the burnt offering.
Speaker 2: Yo. You know I thought it was wild.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you got caughted, but you you
Speaker 3: know at one point when she talked about the bird
Speaker 3: that has nothing to say and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden starts to sing.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the same thing as the rooster. It
Speaker 2: does nothing all day until the fun and rising sun.
Speaker 2: And so let's stalk.
Speaker 1: Ding ding ding. There's the birds and the bees. No, look,
Speaker 1: look at this guy's decapitated head over here. He's kind
Speaker 1: of wearing that white towel. Right, he's kind of got
Speaker 1: a white towel on his head. That's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: You've got all these white towels behind her all those
Speaker 1: people wearing the white towels. Maybe it has something to
Speaker 1: do with wearing white at these events. Right now, if
Speaker 1: you if you look on the circle red spot there,
Speaker 1: those are the dice. She was wearing dice and standing
Speaker 1: to the to the left of that lady in the middle. Right,
Speaker 1: so to the left of the lady in the middle,
Speaker 1: you've got the dice hanging from her ears. Weird, weird stuff.
Speaker 1: And again over to the left or over to the
Speaker 1: right a little bit is also the rooster. And what
Speaker 1: do we see there. We've got at that same cross
Speaker 1: in the circle motif, crossing the circle motif. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 1: It's all right there, So what do you think.
Speaker 3: I definitely think there was stuff in there that's kind
Speaker 3: of bizarre. Yeah, I think the earrings and the rooster ship,
Speaker 3: it was pretty wild. And I mean there's other stuff
Speaker 3: in there that matches too, But of that, really, I
Speaker 3: think you're on the something with that.
Speaker 2: Actually that was weird.
Speaker 1: They had the kid on the stage too, I mean,
Speaker 1: even though talking about the kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: That was a good fun When you put all the
Speaker 1: little pieces together, man, things start to get dark. Maybe
Speaker 1: our whole society is built off of this. Like I've
Speaker 1: talked about before, maybe, uh, the Carthaginian form of government
Speaker 1: was called an oligarchic republic, right where at the very
Speaker 1: top of the society where judges who would decide most things,
Speaker 1: and they were you know, family line. They were all
Speaker 1: Carthaginian family lines. These were the most important families in
Speaker 1: the city. And they passed on their authority to their kids.
Speaker 1: And so below them was the Senate. And the Senate
Speaker 1: was made up of these corporations and all the richest
Speaker 1: oligarchs in that society, again passing it off to their kids,
Speaker 1: and that Senate would then vote on the laws, right
Speaker 1: and then below them that was kind of like the playpen.
Speaker 1: And the playpen was just for the plebs, all the serfs,
Speaker 1: all the people who are under them. They got the
Speaker 1: little playpen. Now what do we have in our government.
Speaker 1: We've got these giant ruling families over top of all
Speaker 1: the corporations with some sort of unseen judge in the background, right,
Speaker 1: and all these corporations are the ones ruling our lives,
Speaker 1: just like they would be if we lived in Cartha.
Speaker 1: Because we have the same form of government. And again
Speaker 1: when we talk about the society of Cincinnati, that's the
Speaker 1: family lineage that's ruling this country, just like they did
Speaker 1: in the oligarchic Republic of Carthage. It strained the parallels
Speaker 1: and who can deny we live in an oligarchy.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Another interesting part is the what's the predecessor to the
Speaker 1: CIA and OSS? What was our intelligence agency dujoure for that,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Naval intelligence. Oh, it was always naval
Speaker 1: intelligence from the beginning of the country, all the way
Speaker 1: up until the formation of the OSS and World War Two.
Speaker 1: They were the premier form of spycraft throughout the rest
Speaker 1: of the world, was naval intelligence because you had to
Speaker 1: make sure those ports were open, and this is where
Speaker 1: trade secrets would happen. And what do you find at
Speaker 1: all those ports? Masodic temples, all the Masonic temples, is
Speaker 1: how they would get their information. This is where they
Speaker 1: would spy from. All the lodges, is where you could
Speaker 1: meet your brothers in private. That spycraft that goes directly
Speaker 1: back to what the Carthaginians had all over the world.
Speaker 1: If you know anything about Irish mythology, it's all about
Speaker 1: bail worship. How in the hell do they know about bail? Well,
Speaker 1: where did the Carthaginians get their tin up in the
Speaker 1: British aisles, up in Ireland. That's where they got their
Speaker 1: tin to mix with the copper in the United States
Speaker 1: to make bronze. And they were the arms dealers of
Speaker 1: the bronze age. They knew all this stuff. It's a
Speaker 1: very direct line implicating them as being the founders of
Speaker 1: this country because they knew where it was. They knew
Speaker 1: all about it, or at least they had a vague
Speaker 1: idea because it was passed along their bloodlines. We don't
Speaker 1: have access to that kind of knowledge, but they knew,
Speaker 1: and that's why we have ruly families, the thirteen blood lines.
Speaker 1: Fucking Carthaginian as fuck.
Speaker 2: Fuck I like that. Well, sense, yo, you know what
Speaker 2: you gotta do.
Speaker 3: I mean I was thinking, I think I had told
Speaker 3: you about it, that I was thinking too of like
Speaker 3: certain things to bring to the place. And I know
Speaker 3: this is like a year from now, and who knows
Speaker 3: if they even do another one, but I know I
Speaker 3: was telling you that if they do another Cosmic summit,
Speaker 3: for the cost of to have a booth for the
Speaker 3: three days and then to bring people add on the
Speaker 3: price to bring people. It actually makes it real cheap
Speaker 3: to fucking get there, and then you can promote your shit.
Speaker 3: I was trying to think of certain things, if you
Speaker 3: could make it or whatever, or just have certain things
Speaker 3: of topics for people to be told about when they
Speaker 3: came to the booth besides magic, and I was even thinking.
Speaker 3: I was like, this might be a good one to
Speaker 3: tell people about there, And I was like, headless would
Speaker 3: be the main for that.
Speaker 1: Dude. The more eyes we can get on this Carthaginian stuff,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not making it up. You can see
Speaker 1: for yourself. All of the things have an ominous continuity.
Speaker 1: The more eyes we can get on it, dude, we
Speaker 1: could unravel this thing because just the small bits that
Speaker 1: take you outside the mainstream on this thing, nobody thinks
Speaker 1: about Carthage, nobody thinks about the Punic Wars. All of
Speaker 1: that stuff is over. But they never asked the question
Speaker 1: what happened to these people? Where did they go? What
Speaker 1: did they do? Somehow the guys who gave us our
Speaker 1: alphabet and explored the New world just suddenly disappeared. They
Speaker 1: were the richest motherfuckers in all of the Middle East,
Speaker 1: Like these were the cellars of purple. They were the
Speaker 1: soul place that you could get that color, and all
Speaker 1: of the royals came and paid whatever they charged. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of gold. Yeah, that's a lot of knowledge too,
Speaker 1: and I think they kept it, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: they were the ones closest to these libraries. They were
Speaker 1: the ones always trading in secrets. That's why at Alexandria
Speaker 1: you had the library right at the port is because
Speaker 1: any books, any scrolls that were on board had to
Speaker 1: be copied at the library of the Alexandria before they
Speaker 1: could be shipped anywhere. It was a requirement. That's where
Speaker 1: they collected all the knowledge again through naval intelligence, and
Speaker 1: Carthage had this awesome port right They had these high
Speaker 1: walls on the outside of the port so that you
Speaker 1: couldn't see in to see what they were loading or
Speaker 1: unloading on these trirems. They had this whole idea of
Speaker 1: naval intelligence on lot thousands of years ago. These people
Speaker 1: were fucking smart and they don't get enough credit because
Speaker 1: they became the elites everywhere, you know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: don't think about it like that, but that's what's going
Speaker 1: on right now. And they invented Christianity unfortunately, if that's
Speaker 1: your thing. But they also invented all of the pagan
Speaker 1: religions too. They spread that bail worship all over Ireland.
Speaker 1: You know that can't be really denied bail in Ireland.
Speaker 1: All the bail worship came through the Carthaginian All the
Speaker 1: bail worship that happened in Spain came through Carthage. It
Speaker 1: was a Spanish well before it was it belonged to
Speaker 1: the Visigoths. It was the Carthaginians. They own that little peninsula.
Speaker 1: This is why they came over to the New World
Speaker 1: through Spain. You know, Spain and Portugal already knew this stuff.
Speaker 1: They were Carthaginians. But what do you think should we
Speaker 1: wrap it there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. I think that actually went very
Speaker 3: very well. That was really good. People even send in
Speaker 3: the chat, some says even go without the mel it's
Speaker 3: well done today.
Speaker 1: Well thank you. Uh, if you guys have any stories again,
Speaker 1: center to the mailbag Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot
Speaker 1: com and we will definitely talk about those. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: if you guys like the Carthage thing, I could I
Speaker 1: could probably make it a series because there's just so
Speaker 1: much information about it, and it's like each each little
Speaker 1: bit fits together with the other stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a deep, deep topic on its own
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Right And I haven't even gotten into the Babylonian side
Speaker 1: of Carthage. Because Carthage or the the Catakite Phoenicians were
Speaker 1: taken over by the Neo Syrians at the same time
Speaker 1: that the Jews were. That's why they were writing about
Speaker 1: it the same way. But basically, like if you look
Speaker 1: at their artwork, you can see that they adopted the
Speaker 1: eye shape from the Samerians. So I think what they're
Speaker 1: indicating in all of these different works of art that
Speaker 1: look really simple but have really deep meaning is all
Speaker 1: of the different motifs that they're absorbing from all of
Speaker 1: these cultures around them. You know, you see the Egyptian
Speaker 1: influence in that cross. You see that cross again on
Speaker 1: this Gloria Vanderbilt shadow box. It's so strange, this ominous
Speaker 1: continuity between all these things. You know, hell, yes, who
Speaker 1: could have figured? But tune in on Sunday. Do you
Speaker 1: have anything coming up? Nick?
Speaker 2: I think July first, Do I have somebody this? I
Speaker 2: think it might have somebody this weekend? Tell you the
Speaker 2: truth but I can't.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got somebody Domino coming on Saturday, but
Speaker 3: that's for herbal stuff. But uh, July first, I know
Speaker 3: why I told you about it. I'm assuming you're you
Speaker 3: can make it earlier. We got a kid coming on
Speaker 3: that it met from the summit that is uh, this
Speaker 3: kid's fucking smartest ship and he was kind of hanging
Speaker 3: out with Ashton Forbes the whole time. It was like
Speaker 3: part of his little Ashan Forbes had an entourage of
Speaker 3: like nerdy kids with them at this summit. It was
Speaker 3: fucking It was actually pretty cool to listen to them
Speaker 3: like talking debate and shit.
Speaker 2: I was like, holy fuck.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, this is amazing, and these
Speaker 3: kids are young. He's he's gonna come on and present
Speaker 3: some ship with free energy and electric and some weird ship.
Speaker 3: He's gonna make slides and he's got a presentation. So
Speaker 3: July first will be doing that.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Yeah, yeah, that should be fun.
Speaker 1: Well, if you guys tune in on Sunday, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have another trialogue. Ethan said, he is back, So that's
Speaker 1: gonna be yes coming on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 3: That is awesome. Yeah, yeah, he was coming on Saturday.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's awesome. He's going on good, good, awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be great to have Ethan back. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's had a rough time. If you guys, could
Speaker 1: you know, send your wishes along, that would be great.
Speaker 1: So if if you guys will join me next time,
Speaker 1: I'll see you then later. But