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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>What I think too? Headless's Magical mail Bag. I got

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<v Speaker 1>my co host with me, fresh back from the Cosmic Summit.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Nick, how you doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>Good? Hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you? Thank you very much having me back looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to this. This is the first time podcasting since

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<v Speaker 2>I've been done.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we were just talking all about it while we

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<v Speaker 1>were off the air. That's why I relate everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm showing you don't have any bail, right, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any mail this week, so we're gonna go deep

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<v Speaker 1>in depth into a couple of symbols that are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully blow your mind. Do you want to go first

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll take it over. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me just pull up the images. I had

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<v Speaker 3>your video pulled up first, so just give me a second.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry about that, Yeah, I hate so uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna say, I do have the I have a

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<v Speaker 4>sigil from the Pika tricks to let people know before

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<v Speaker 4>I get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Shire screen. Here we go. There we go. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>you can share that sir if you don't mind, please.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it awesome?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that is one side We'll get to the

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<v Speaker 3>other side later. That is one side for the talisman

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<v Speaker 3>of the Moon from the Pika Trix. Again, it's from

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<v Speaker 3>the Pika Trix, and that is a tenth to eleventh

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<v Speaker 3>century supposedly grimoire on Estrological on talismanic Magic, which was

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<v Speaker 3>later translated into Latin in the thirteenth century. This is

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<v Speaker 3>considered one of the most comprehensive medieval handbook of astrological magic.

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<v Speaker 3>The Pika Tricks draws from Hermeticism, Neoplatonism, astrology, and Arabic

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever occult traditions descriptions for this image. One side

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<v Speaker 3>which I will show next, actually real quick at least

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<v Speaker 3>movie there you go. This looks a little different. One

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<v Speaker 3>side this depicts a man with a bird's head leaning

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<v Speaker 3>on a staff holding a blossoming tree, an iconic icon

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<v Speaker 3>from moon talismans in the Pika Trix. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>next side will be the seal surrounded by the Grand

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<v Speaker 3>Planetary Seal of Luna has geometric curves combined with celestial

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<v Speaker 3>symbols and lunar glyphs. This image that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>show you now switch back to even when you look

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<v Speaker 3>up planetary the planetary sigil for the moon, like with

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<v Speaker 3>the gripper and the magical squares. It even looks like

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<v Speaker 3>that too, so you know it does come from that

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<v Speaker 3>as well. I guess where they share that same idea.

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<v Speaker 3>A description in the text Pika Tricks, Book two, chapter

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<v Speaker 3>ten details this image and lunar seal for talismanic creation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's further mentioned in book four tying specific lunar mansions

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<v Speaker 3>to outcomes. This would normally be for like good things,

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<v Speaker 3>other primary purposes and uses. The primary intention guides and

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<v Speaker 3>guides the wearer to hidden knowledge, dream insights, protection, well being,

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<v Speaker 3>and good fortune, especially on journeys. To make it created

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<v Speaker 3>at the correct lunar hour during the moon's exaltation, often

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<v Speaker 3>in Taurus. And if some people don't know when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to magic, if you want to start making these

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<v Speaker 3>things each day, obviously there's a planet with it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then each hour there is an hour for each planet.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to get real specific, if you want,

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<v Speaker 3>you can use incense. They suggest MUCKs, muss or mastic

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<v Speaker 3>anybody's ever. I never heard of mastic. It's a little

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<v Speaker 3>pricey because I think the only place you can really

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<v Speaker 3>get it from is grease.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really love that shit. That shit smells amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Use that while reciting invocations to the Moon's intelligence ruling spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>The charm then works passively. Most power comes from timely

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<v Speaker 3>creation and inscription in the Pika trips. Some notable historical references.

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<v Speaker 3>Agrippa has mentioned it before, Ficino has used it before,

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<v Speaker 3>and Ashmole has also and nowadays, if people tend to

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<v Speaker 3>use it, it's frequently. They frequently craft these talismans, using

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<v Speaker 3>them for protection, psychic enhancement, health and spiritual work.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh yeah, and it's made a lot in jewelry.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to be one of the ones that you

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<v Speaker 2>will see in.

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<v Speaker 3>Jewelry a lot. But yeah, I mean, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 3>really about it on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>What's a beautiful sid And I gotta I gotta tell

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<v Speaker 1>you your work on Fatino was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys haven't seen that yet. Definitely check that out. That

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<v Speaker 1>is that is phenomenal work. I think you really nailed

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of what he was trying to go for

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of bringing back all of this, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>neo Platinism to the Enlightenment. You know, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge accomplishment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I think it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people try.

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<v Speaker 1>To downplay the Enlightenment, but you know, I mean, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guy that told people, hey, it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to read because you know, for a long time it

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<v Speaker 1>was not okay to read in Europe and they were

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<v Speaker 1>they were failing because of it. And he's like, no, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to read this stuff. This is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna translate it for you. And so it took off.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody started reading Facino and it was just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was game odd in Europe. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a thousand years of darkness until that guy. So

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<v Speaker 1>and that was all occultism too.

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<v Speaker 3>People, Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, it's interesting how some

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<v Speaker 3>of this stuff has carried on into like religion and

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<v Speaker 3>people don't even realize it came from an alchemist slice

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<v Speaker 3>the cultist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's yeah. I think he's a very interesting

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<v Speaker 2>character for people to learn about. So go check it

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<v Speaker 2>out if you haven't, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, to go to go back into it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Wasn't your interview with that guy with

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<v Speaker 1>the awesome name who was under Manly p Hall he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about Facino too, No, no, no, he was he

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<v Speaker 1>was on your show with oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He was mentioning Facino too, And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good sign that we're getting so much Facino.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it like on four or five other podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>as well. They're talking about this guy, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we could be in for something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of that Facino energy is really good stuff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to be successful in a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>but the only thing he could be successful at was

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<v Speaker 1>this translation of the Platonic Works into you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>contemporary European languages from ancient Greek, and so that was uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted to kick him out of the church at

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<v Speaker 2>one point too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they investigated him.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like, hey, you're teaching people to read, Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>no reading aloud?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, I think they I think the way

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<v Speaker 3>he pulled it off, he's like, well, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Jesus, so some shiit like he threw like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you had like a religious twist on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how he kind of got away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you knew, I guess knew what he was doing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he was integrating the pagan ways with the Christian

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<v Speaker 1>ways because the crazy people read right, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff about the trivium and the quadrivium,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that comes from occultism. You know, all of

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<v Speaker 1>the ways of learning came up through this Greek style

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<v Speaker 1>of occultism. And you know, people just don't realize it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's how we reascended to where we were at

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<v Speaker 1>in the industrial age. And it's like keeping a lid

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<v Speaker 1>on that stuff, you know, really does affect humanity after

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<v Speaker 1>a long period of time. And I think we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the results of that now, you know what we're living

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<v Speaker 1>through with you know, all this war fever and people

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<v Speaker 1>just being sucked right back into it. They have no

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<v Speaker 1>critical thinking skills. It's just like Trump says it, therefore

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<v Speaker 1>it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we got to get out of that mode. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But even for just just so go ahead, go ahead, No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say real quick, just to even

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<v Speaker 3>I guess promote the next solo one that comes out

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<v Speaker 3>will be Jacob Boehm, and then after that I should

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<v Speaker 3>have Tycho Brahe.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh that's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think a lot of yo, right, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think most people know that about it or even know

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<v Speaker 3>the guy exists, and it's like, yo, that guy basically

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<v Speaker 3>other people kind of pimped out his work, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, But he was huge personal.

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<v Speaker 5>Nose chops.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he put that in there. I got that in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah that Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>He found that later on that I think he was

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<v Speaker 3>born with like a stillborn twin and like he wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a poem about that ship and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>He definitely yo.

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<v Speaker 3>He even he even married like a commoner, but had

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<v Speaker 3>it do it in a fucked up way because he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, no, I'm sorry, I'm not marrying somebody of

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<v Speaker 3>my class just because I have to. I love this

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<v Speaker 3>woman and she's not fucking whatever. And he did some

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<v Speaker 3>other way that made them legally married. It definitely had

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting life and it didn't live too long either, right.

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<v Speaker 1>His calculation survived to this day. Like he was that

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<v Speaker 1>accurate with his observations. He was in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Plane with that ship. He was so he was saying

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<v Speaker 3>that we could be so much more specific. He started

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<v Speaker 3>building his own ship because he was like, this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>specific enough.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy was crazy, but he was onto something.

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<v Speaker 1>Again. It's a it's another one of these characters that

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<v Speaker 1>just gets no attention because when you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Tychobrahi's stuff and his model of the universe, he was

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<v Speaker 1>mathematically one hundred percent correct, even more so that our

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<v Speaker 1>current geos heliocentric model. People go back to his work

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<v Speaker 1>to actually calculate where the planets are because their model

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily fully comprehend the mathematics like he did. Tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not weird, you know, Yeah, I mean we get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of lies from NASA and these cosmologists, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you go back to people like Tychobrahi and Ficino,

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<v Speaker 1>you start to learn about what it was before this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blob. Well, no, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that going on in road too. There is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bureaucracy blob shit happening before Christianity, but it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like Christianity kind of just systematized it and pushed it

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<v Speaker 1>in everybody's faces all the time, Which brings me to

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<v Speaker 1>my next symbol. All right, this right here is something else.

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<v Speaker 1>I look this up when I was going through more

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<v Speaker 1>Carthaginian art. This is a mosaic from the early Christian

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<v Speaker 1>period in Carthage. Can I ask you what what do

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<v Speaker 1>you see there?

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<v Speaker 2>Nick? There's a lot of shit. I mean, uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it or not. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those two birds in the cross might be

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<v Speaker 3>like it almost reminds me of eyes, but I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the cross donkey, you know, and then I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>why that makes me think of the Democrat Party right away.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there's a lot of symbolism I think in here.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually I thought it was anything specific. Uh, I would

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<v Speaker 3>even say, like the things on.

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<v Speaker 1>The side deceptively simple.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that is true. Yeah, but I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>actually some deep shit in here. But it does look

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<v Speaker 3>very just like artwork there, just blah art stuff, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like it though, kind of a face it

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<v Speaker 1>faded look with all the tiles, right, it's not necessarily vibrant.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we're seeing here, I think blows the lid

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<v Speaker 1>off of what was happening with early Christianity. And what

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<v Speaker 1>we see here is the two donkeys underneath the cross. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's something very strange about these donkeys' faces. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not really donkey faces, right, they kind of look like

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<v Speaker 1>ant eaters, which is the exactly this is the exact

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<v Speaker 1>glyph for set the Egyptian devil, and Set was something

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<v Speaker 1>interesting when it comes to Christianity because Seth in Greek

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<v Speaker 1>is Set and Seth is the third son of Adam

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<v Speaker 1>and Eve. This is the one who has the line

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<v Speaker 1>of Set. So everybody coming from the line of Set

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<v Speaker 1>or Setian, right, they're from Set and that comes from Egypt,

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from Set worship. So Moses also wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>donkey and in the Temple of Solomon, during the reign

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<v Speaker 1>of Antiochus Sepafanis, he raided that temple and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a massive golden donkey head inside of the temple that

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<v Speaker 1>they were worshiping. So Moses, donkey Set all comes from Egypt,

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<v Speaker 1>all comes from Set worship. Now who is this guy Set?

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<v Speaker 1>He was the guy who chopped Osirius up in tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little pieces. He was the Egyptian form of the devil

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<v Speaker 1>or the bad guy. He was doing horrible things to

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<v Speaker 1>his brother and Isis and so he was also the

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<v Speaker 1>god of foreigners and storms. Right, and the Carthaginians had

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<v Speaker 1>a extensive relationship with the Egyptians. They knew everything Egypt did.

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<v Speaker 1>They were very very integral to Egyptian's success because Egypt

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<v Speaker 1>So how did they ship all their wheat through the Carthaginians.

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<v Speaker 1>The Carthaginians and the Egyptians had a long period of

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<v Speaker 1>cultural exchange into the time period of the writing of

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<v Speaker 1>the Septuagint, which has again this set motif. So who

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<v Speaker 1>are the Canaanite Phoenicians? Right? Who are these people that

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about anolatry? Now, in the first century, first

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<v Speaker 1>and second century AD, the common insult towards Christians and

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<v Speaker 1>Romans said they were worshiping a donkey, a donkey head set.

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<v Speaker 1>It was commonly known back then. For some reason, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>forgot so, yeah, they used to call monolots. There's this

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<v Speaker 1>one graffiti called the Alexandros Graffito, which shows Jesus on

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<v Speaker 1>across with the donkey head, and it says Alexandros worships

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<v Speaker 1>this god and Alexandros was some Roman centurion, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he's making fun of the guy for worshiping this donkey

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<v Speaker 1>head in christ Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Very common as an insult, But it seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>only group of people that are embracing it. Are the Carthaginians,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that they probably wrote the damn Book and

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<v Speaker 1>they knew what it was about, so worshiping the Egyptian devil.

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<v Speaker 1>These four guys around the outside, turning the world are

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<v Speaker 1>the gospel authors, right. These are the you know, Matthew, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>Luca John. They are moving the world with the gospel

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<v Speaker 1>of set worship. That is weird, it's deceptively simple. And

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<v Speaker 1>what are these roosters with the nice little coal montage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about a braxis we're talking about These

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<v Speaker 1>are the gods of the Phoenicians.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The rooster held deep importance to the Phoenicians. You could

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<v Speaker 1>see it all over their stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting when you can actually see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, And this one right here, there's ah you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really zoom in, but uh over to the right of

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<v Speaker 1>the figure. Right, this is again TANet TANet worship over

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<v Speaker 1>to the right of the figure. You can't really see

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<v Speaker 1>it on this kind of way. It's the exact same

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<v Speaker 1>it's the exact same rooster as the one you see here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same motif. This Carthaginian rooster is a very

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<v Speaker 1>common theme throughout their artwork even to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what was interesting actively simple?

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<v Speaker 3>The temple has brought up the rooster. The temples brought

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<v Speaker 3>up the rooster in their at their lecture as a symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>And the templars come through the mystery schools. The Templars

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<v Speaker 1>come through the mystery schools. Where did the Carthaginians end

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<v Speaker 1>up retreating to when they sort of left prominence and

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<v Speaker 1>became Syrians, They went into the mystery schools. The Knights

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<v Speaker 1>Templar were the ones that sailed as to the New World.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what was on the big old sales is the

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<v Speaker 1>Knight's Templar Cross. And they came through Portugal, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the home of the Knights Templar. All of these groups

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<v Speaker 1>go back to Carthage. This is how they knew about

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<v Speaker 1>the New World because they had been sailing there for

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of years. Right. So the Carthaginians were also the Manoans,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Manoans were the arms dealers of the Mediterranean.

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<v Speaker 1>They were collecting copper from Michigan and they were taking

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I'm talking about, guys. They're still in control.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. There's an ominous continuity between all

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<v Speaker 1>of this Carthaginian shit, and it's right in the background

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of things. And I wanted to show

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<v Speaker 1>everybody what I think is a tant ritual based off

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<v Speaker 1>of this inscription of TANet right here. Now, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I've probably shown it to you guys before, but the

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<v Speaker 1>stellas of TANet look exactly like this. Gloria Steinem or no,

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<v Speaker 1>not Steinem, what's her name. It's the mother of Anderson Cooper, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Gloria Vanderbilt. Gloria Vanderbilt has this image of TANet above

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<v Speaker 1>her bed right, and so this is Anderson Cooper right

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<v Speaker 1>here on the right. And then his sacrifice of a

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<v Speaker 1>brother who died at fifteen years old. Now, TANet is

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<v Speaker 1>the goddess of human sacrifice, and Carter, Anderson Cooper's brother

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<v Speaker 1>died at fifteen of supposed suicide. Oh wow, the older

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<v Speaker 1>brother getting whacked because the oldest son gets sacrificed in

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<v Speaker 1>TANet worship. Right, So this is what's happening. Now. If

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<v Speaker 1>you see above Tannate, you see that all seeing eye

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<v Speaker 1>that's all over the stelee for TANet worship in Carthage,

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<v Speaker 1>all around Syria and Israel, all of these places at

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<v Speaker 1>the tafits. They have that all saying eye above the

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<v Speaker 1>tannate motif, that triangular goddess with the circle head, triangular goddess,

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<v Speaker 1>circle head arms out. That's tannate right, It's a very

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<v Speaker 1>simple geometric shape. So uh, this tant worship I believe

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<v Speaker 1>goes on inside of movies that are fairly recent as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought i'd pull up this clip. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's gonna get me whacked or not, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is from tank Girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, you have choices to improve that lovely hair.

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<v Speaker 6>Did are you saying for us?

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<v Speaker 1>Fine? All right?

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<v Speaker 7>What do you want me to sing?

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<v Speaker 1>Notice the colors figure.

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<v Speaker 5>Cut it off.

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<v Speaker 7>Queen the little blue bird, who has never said a word,

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<v Speaker 7>starts to sing.

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<v Speaker 1>Spring those dice.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Blue clerk, in the middle.

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<v Speaker 7>Of his work, starts at tuned to the moon. It's

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<v Speaker 7>is nature, that's so simply, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the dades.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be killing people as well.

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<v Speaker 5>As exact it.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see, let's running the audience of rats.

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<v Speaker 2>They say this.

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<v Speaker 6>Upper crust ladies do it when a gentleman's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh looks like a kidnap victim. Come on, I'll take shot.

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<v Speaker 6>Why do we do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>A little cap station. Oh it looks the labels the

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<v Speaker 1>top because of jump lighting the sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 5>Or what's that stage made.

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<v Speaker 1>Aut it black and white squirts.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an all seeing guy in a trial though, What

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<v Speaker 4>the hell is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Sons like cold porter to me said and it sure, sure.

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<v Speaker 5>You do, all seeing guy in the fair bod.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there's the smoke. Now we're gonna start the burnt offerings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo. You know what I told I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna start the burnt offering.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo. You know I thought it was wild.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you got caughted, but you you

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<v Speaker 3>know at one point when she talked about the bird

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<v Speaker 3>that has nothing to say and then all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden starts to sing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's the same thing as the rooster. It

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<v Speaker 2>does nothing all day until the fun and rising sun.

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<v Speaker 2>And so let's stalk.

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<v Speaker 1>Ding ding ding. There's the birds and the bees. No, look,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this guy's decapitated head over here. He's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wearing that white towel. Right, he's kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>a white towel on his head. That's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got all these white towels behind her all those

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<v Speaker 1>people wearing the white towels. Maybe it has something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with wearing white at these events. Right now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you look on the circle red spot there,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the dice. She was wearing dice and standing

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the left of that lady in the middle. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so to the left of the lady in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the dice hanging from her ears. Weird, weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And again over to the left or over to the

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<v Speaker 1>right a little bit is also the rooster. And what

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<v Speaker 1>do we see there. We've got at that same cross

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<v Speaker 1>in the circle motif, crossing the circle motif. Isn't that weird?

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right there, So what do you think.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely think there was stuff in there that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of bizarre. Yeah, I think the earrings and the rooster ship,

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<v Speaker 3>it was pretty wild. And I mean there's other stuff

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<v Speaker 3>in there that matches too, But of that, really, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're on the something with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually that was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>They had the kid on the stage too, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even though talking about the kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, I definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good fun When you put all the

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<v Speaker 1>little pieces together, man, things start to get dark. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>our whole society is built off of this. Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before, maybe, uh, the Carthaginian form of government

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<v Speaker 1>was called an oligarchic republic, right where at the very

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<v Speaker 1>top of the society where judges who would decide most things,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were you know, family line. They were all

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<v Speaker 1>Carthaginian family lines. These were the most important families in

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<v Speaker 1>the city. And they passed on their authority to their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And so below them was the Senate. And the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>was made up of these corporations and all the richest

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<v Speaker 1>oligarchs in that society, again passing it off to their kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and that Senate would then vote on the laws, right

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<v Speaker 1>and then below them that was kind of like the playpen.

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<v Speaker 1>And the playpen was just for the plebs, all the serfs,

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<v Speaker 1>all the people who are under them. They got the

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<v Speaker 1>little playpen. Now what do we have in our government.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got these giant ruling families over top of all

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<v Speaker 1>the corporations with some sort of unseen judge in the background, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and all these corporations are the ones ruling our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>just like they would be if we lived in Cartha.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we have the same form of government. And again

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the society of Cincinnati, that's the

423
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>family lineage that's ruling this country, just like they did

424
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<v Speaker 1>in the oligarchic Republic of Carthage. It strained the parallels

425
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<v Speaker 1>and who can deny we live in an oligarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Another interesting part is the what's the predecessor to the

428
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<v Speaker 1>CIA and OSS? What was our intelligence agency dujoure for that,

429
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Naval intelligence. Oh, it was always naval

430
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>intelligence from the beginning of the country, all the way

431
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>up until the formation of the OSS and World War Two.

432
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<v Speaker 1>They were the premier form of spycraft throughout the rest

433
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<v Speaker 1>of the world, was naval intelligence because you had to

434
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<v Speaker 1>make sure those ports were open, and this is where

435
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>trade secrets would happen. And what do you find at

436
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>all those ports? Masodic temples, all the Masonic temples, is

437
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.039
<v Speaker 1>how they would get their information. This is where they

438
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>would spy from. All the lodges, is where you could

439
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 1>meet your brothers in private. That spycraft that goes directly

440
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.039
<v Speaker 1>back to what the Carthaginians had all over the world.

441
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<v Speaker 1>If you know anything about Irish mythology, it's all about

442
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>bail worship. How in the hell do they know about bail? Well,

443
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>where did the Carthaginians get their tin up in the

444
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 1>British aisles, up in Ireland. That's where they got their

445
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>tin to mix with the copper in the United States

446
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to make bronze. And they were the arms dealers of

447
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 1>the bronze age. They knew all this stuff. It's a

448
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.519
<v Speaker 1>very direct line implicating them as being the founders of

449
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>this country because they knew where it was. They knew

450
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 1>all about it, or at least they had a vague

451
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>idea because it was passed along their bloodlines. We don't

452
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 1>have access to that kind of knowledge, but they knew,

453
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's why we have ruly families, the thirteen blood lines.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Fucking Carthaginian as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck I like that. Well, sense, yo, you know what

456
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>you gotta do.

457
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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was thinking, I think I had told

458
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 3>you about it, that I was thinking too of like

459
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 3>certain things to bring to the place. And I know

460
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:38.599
<v Speaker 3>this is like a year from now, and who knows

461
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 3>if they even do another one, but I know I

462
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 3>was telling you that if they do another Cosmic summit,

463
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>for the cost of to have a booth for the

464
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:49.319
<v Speaker 3>three days and then to bring people add on the

465
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 3>price to bring people. It actually makes it real cheap

466
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>to fucking get there, and then you can promote your shit.

467
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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to think of certain things, if you

468
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 3>could make it or whatever, or just have certain things

469
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 3>of topics for people to be told about when they

470
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.920
<v Speaker 3>came to the booth besides magic, and I was even thinking.

471
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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this might be a good one to

472
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.519
<v Speaker 3>tell people about there, And I was like, headless would

473
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<v Speaker 3>be the main for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude. The more eyes we can get on this Carthaginian stuff,

475
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not making it up. You can see

476
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>for yourself. All of the things have an ominous continuity.

477
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 1>The more eyes we can get on it, dude, we

478
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>could unravel this thing because just the small bits that

479
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 1>take you outside the mainstream on this thing, nobody thinks

480
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>about Carthage, nobody thinks about the Punic Wars. All of

481
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.039
<v Speaker 1>that stuff is over. But they never asked the question

482
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 1>what happened to these people? Where did they go? What

483
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 1>did they do? Somehow the guys who gave us our

484
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>alphabet and explored the New world just suddenly disappeared. They

485
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<v Speaker 1>were the richest motherfuckers in all of the Middle East,

486
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<v Speaker 1>Like these were the cellars of purple. They were the

487
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<v Speaker 1>soul place that you could get that color, and all

488
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 1>of the royals came and paid whatever they charged. That's

489
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:12.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of gold. Yeah, that's a lot of knowledge too,

490
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think they kept it, you know. I mean

491
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>they were the ones closest to these libraries. They were

492
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the ones always trading in secrets. That's why at Alexandria

493
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 1>you had the library right at the port is because

494
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 1>any books, any scrolls that were on board had to

495
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>be copied at the library of the Alexandria before they

496
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 1>could be shipped anywhere. It was a requirement. That's where

497
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.119
<v Speaker 1>they collected all the knowledge again through naval intelligence, and

498
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Carthage had this awesome port right They had these high

499
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 1>walls on the outside of the port so that you

500
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 1>couldn't see in to see what they were loading or

501
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>unloading on these trirems. They had this whole idea of

502
00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>naval intelligence on lot thousands of years ago. These people

503
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>were fucking smart and they don't get enough credit because

504
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 1>they became the elites everywhere, you know, I mean, we

505
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 1>don't think about it like that, but that's what's going

506
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 1>on right now. And they invented Christianity unfortunately, if that's

507
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 1>your thing. But they also invented all of the pagan

508
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 1>religions too. They spread that bail worship all over Ireland.

509
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.039
<v Speaker 1>You know that can't be really denied bail in Ireland.

510
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<v Speaker 1>All the bail worship came through the Carthaginian All the

511
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 1>bail worship that happened in Spain came through Carthage. It

512
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>was a Spanish well before it was it belonged to

513
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the Visigoths. It was the Carthaginians. They own that little peninsula.

514
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:49.799
<v Speaker 1>This is why they came over to the New World

515
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>through Spain. You know, Spain and Portugal already knew this stuff.

516
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>They were Carthaginians. But what do you think should we

517
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>wrap it there?

518
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

519
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that. I think that actually went very

520
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.799
<v Speaker 3>very well. That was really good. People even send in

521
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 3>the chat, some says even go without the mel it's

522
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 3>well done today.

523
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<v Speaker 1>Well thank you. Uh, if you guys have any stories again,

524
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>center to the mailbag Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot

525
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>com and we will definitely talk about those. But uh yeah,

526
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>if you guys like the Carthage thing, I could I

527
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.039
<v Speaker 1>could probably make it a series because there's just so

528
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>much information about it, and it's like each each little

529
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>bit fits together with the other stuff.

530
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a deep, deep topic on its own

531
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:48.519
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

532
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Right And I haven't even gotten into the Babylonian side

533
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of Carthage. Because Carthage or the the Catakite Phoenicians were

534
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 1>taken over by the Neo Syrians at the same time

535
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 1>that the Jews were. That's why they were writing about

536
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>it the same way. But basically, like if you look

537
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>at their artwork, you can see that they adopted the

538
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>eye shape from the Samerians. So I think what they're

539
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>indicating in all of these different works of art that

540
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 1>look really simple but have really deep meaning is all

541
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of the different motifs that they're absorbing from all of

542
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 1>these cultures around them. You know, you see the Egyptian

543
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.679
<v Speaker 1>influence in that cross. You see that cross again on

544
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>this Gloria Vanderbilt shadow box. It's so strange, this ominous

545
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 1>continuity between all these things. You know, hell, yes, who

546
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>could have figured? But tune in on Sunday. Do you

547
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>have anything coming up? Nick?

548
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I think July first, Do I have somebody this? I

549
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:58.480
<v Speaker 2>think it might have somebody this weekend? Tell you the

550
00:34:58.480 --> 00:34:59.119
<v Speaker 2>truth but I can't.

551
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I got somebody Domino coming on Saturday, but

552
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 3>that's for herbal stuff. But uh, July first, I know

553
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 3>why I told you about it. I'm assuming you're you

554
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 3>can make it earlier. We got a kid coming on

555
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 3>that it met from the summit that is uh, this

556
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 3>kid's fucking smartest ship and he was kind of hanging

557
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 3>out with Ashton Forbes the whole time. It was like

558
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>part of his little Ashan Forbes had an entourage of

559
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 3>like nerdy kids with them at this summit. It was

560
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 3>fucking It was actually pretty cool to listen to them

561
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 3>like talking debate and shit.

562
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, holy fuck.

563
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, this is amazing, and these

564
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 3>kids are young. He's he's gonna come on and present

565
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 3>some ship with free energy and electric and some weird ship.

566
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna make slides and he's got a presentation. So

567
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 3>July first will be doing that.

568
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Yeah, yeah, that should be fun.

569
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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you guys tune in on Sunday, we're gonna

570
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 1>have another trialogue. Ethan said, he is back, So that's

571
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be yes coming on Sunday.

572
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

573
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.599
<v Speaker 3>That is awesome. Yeah, yeah, he was coming on Saturday.

574
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's awesome. He's going on good, good, awesome.

575
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be great to have Ethan back. I'm

576
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.039
<v Speaker 1>sure he's had a rough time. If you guys, could

577
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, send your wishes along, that would be great.

578
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<v Speaker 1>So if if you guys will join me next time,

579
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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you then later. But
