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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Brian down in Houston, Texas, and I'll

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play at Melrose Golf Course. This is Golf Smarter, all right.

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Speaker 2: This is Craig Marrow from Flower Mound, Texas. I play

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at two or eighteen Dallas. It's a simulation of eighteen

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great American golf holes including Sawgrass seventeen, the Island Green,

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and Amen Corner eleven, twelve, and thirteen. This is Golf

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Smarter Episode ten sixteen, Wow, one thousand and sixteen. Good

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job Bread.

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Speaker 1: Just doing those mobility exercises gets rid of a lot

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of pain for them. They immediately will start to like, oh,

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I'm turning more, I'm not sore after I play the

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round of golf. Particularly like guys who are good players

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when they were younger. They understand the movement they're supposed

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to do mentally, but physically they can't do it. You

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give that guy mobility and his hip back, and his

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buddies are like, oh my god, what'd you do not

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to mention his balls going farther than their's. Now that's

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literally just level one. Then you move up. Level two

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is how do we get you stronger, whether it's squat

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type movements or hinge type movements which are like a kettlebelt,

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deadlifts or bandeded lifts. How do we get your hips stronger?

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Bridges would be the simplest example of that. How do

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we strengthen basically like the backside of your legs, your button,

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your ham strings. Those are your two lower body and

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then you're also working getting stronger in your upper body,

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whether it's with dumbells or barbell or cables, whatever it

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may be. Those are the big ones that we really

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want to see get stronger with. And then you get

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to power. Power is how quickly can I get it

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from the bottom to the top. So if you can

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move fifty pounds but it takes you a minute, that

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is less powerful than if you can move fifty pounds

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the same distance in one second. That's where the explosiveness

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comes from. And so those are kind of the big

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three categories. So during that fifteen minutes a day, because

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you're assessing, you know exactly it is what you get

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rid of all the extra noise and you're solely focusing

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on what is the low hanging fruit for you at

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that moment.

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Speaker 3: Fitness myths that will surprise every level of golfer With

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Chris Finn of power for success. This is Golf Smarter,

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sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf minds to

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help you lower your score and raise your golf IQ.

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Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf

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Smarter podcast. Chris.

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to be here, Fred. I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, you've been on a bunch of times

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and we've done this for years now, but now you're

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was inspired there. There has been inspiration.

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to get up the gusto to uh, to have the

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you know, the courage to start my own thing. But yeah,

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I think I'm not gonna lie. I've I've learned a lot.

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you know, podcaster to podcasters, you go on different shows

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and there's different levels of preparation that people do. There's

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different levels of quality that people have. You know, some

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people are in a room with like dogs going off

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and ye other people are recording. It's finny you see

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the different soft where people use this to make sure

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that you don't catch any lag or anything. And you're

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I believe. So, uh, you've done this a few times,

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not your first rodeo, and uh, you definitely were one

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of the first ones that I was around. I was like, oh,

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that's how the professionals.

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Speaker 3: Do it, smoking mirrors, my friend smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think, yeah, I'm excited we have our

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you know, the golf Inness Bomb Squad is one that

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we're uh or I think we're only like eight hundred

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episodes or plus behind you. So, but it's been fun

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because it's uh, you know we have we do on Wednesdays,

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we typically will have a guest, so we'll have somebody

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experts on like yourself, who can just do the talking

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for me and I can just ask ask a lot

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more and do follow ups. When you keep saying we

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do this show, it's not just you, it is me.

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Speaker 1: That's just my vernacular. Anything at parpass, I say, we.

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Speaker 3: As a group produce a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Correct. I I'm just the talking head. I go on

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and talk and then you know, our team does the voice.

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helped me do all that. And I will say.

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will not go well. But I also I have such

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a newfound respect for the interviewer. It's it's funny. And

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it's like, oh, this will be fun. Just get to

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talk and hang out and you know, when you're the

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interview work like the research you got to do. And

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it was when the person that was interviewing you had

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just it just the conversation and goes so much better there.

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it's like, oh, he actually like looked at what I do.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. And I you know, I tell people a lot.

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I'm like, listen, this is your soapbox. I'm not here

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I just want to have you, you know, sell your wares,

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showcase your expertise, and I'll just keep listening. And I

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it was published in twenty twenty three, and she's been

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to do interviews by being her recording engineer because she

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pre interviews. I'm like, what's that. You know, It's like,

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why are you wasting people's time by doing pre interviews.

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our listeners, I'm like, you guys all know this. This

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part for me. But but you know, when you have

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. But when you have as much which recording

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experiences I do have been doing this for my pretty

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of it wasn't recording, Oh my god. Or the one

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time when I was interviewing Carlton Fisk at spring training

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during baseball spring training and we did this great interview

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the only one. The bad one I've had is like

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we had a thunderstorm going on here in North Carolina

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single the solo episodes Ideal record in batches, and I

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the guy does the podcast. He goes, hey, man, did

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you have your audio on? And I go no, I

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career as a podcaster is complete.

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interviewing somebody, and if you have a list of questions

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that you feel like you have to get to, you're

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what does that mean? Can you explain that to me?

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to get free golf lessons, right, just like I'll just

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interview experts and see what happens that's worked.

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particularly the to your point. I'll have a number of

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my bullet points of things that I want to talk

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about based on what their YouTube videos or topics or

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philosophies have been around. But inevitably I get to I

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does a lot of online stuff, and started ham on.

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we're both absolute nerds, and it just goes nowhere where

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things about doing the podcast. Is I inevitably in every

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guest I have on, I learn, whether it's from a

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fitness person, whether it's from a medical person or a

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you know, instructor, or whatever, whoever it may be. It's

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there's there's always a learning, and that's I never will

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get off a podcast like, oh man, all right, that

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was a waste of time. Uh actually has a lie

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that happened once but more than once more and then

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we had to work on our screening process and who

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we let on the podcast. But uh, that was an awkward email.

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we we're not going to do it turned into like

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a like a whole sales pitches, like there was no

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value add content at all.

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that there have been episodes that I've finished going, Okay,

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that was really a waste of my time, that that

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was useless information. I didn't get anything from that, And

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I'll publish it and get emails going. That was one

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of the best episodes you've ever done. Yeah, that was

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so so just don't beat yourself up. Just get the

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content out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a it's it's been a fun learning

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experience where expert two years, two years in, we're in

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the we're getting close to two hundred. It's just been

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it's been fun. It's and I love I love also

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it's fun having people back on and then you know, hey,

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last time we talked, this is where you were at.

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Where are you at now? And yeah, it's been fun

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to do that. And I will say my interviewing has

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definitely I listened to the first couple episodes, I was like,

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oh gosh, that was terrible. And then I'm sure I'll

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say the same thing. And you know, a year from now,

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i'll listen to what I'm doing now I'm like, god,

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you were terrible, Chris. But that's how we get better.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just got to tap on the shoulder talk

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about golf man? What are you doing? Okay, I'm sorry,

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it's like, don't are about your podcast? Enough? All right,

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The Golf Fitness Bomb Squad. And enough of that. Let's

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talk about us. Let's talk about let's get some golf

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stuff going on here. You guys have done some research

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recently about golf fitness, and that's what we're here to

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talk about today. And they're apparently we as golfers living

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in a series of myths about what is relevant and

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what is important as far as golf fitness. What have

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you learned? I am so interested in hearing about this.

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that we found recently Fred was and actually it was

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it was just like on a whim this one. It

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was pretty funny. We had a person, a client, who

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had flown in we do. We do weekend events now

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in addition to the regular training we do, and so

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they had flown in and they brought their golf sheep

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and you know, they were like, hey, I brought my

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golf shoes. I didn't want to wear spikes like the

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ones that I normally play with, so I just brought

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these like comfortable ones. Then he's I don't know why

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it stuck out to me. He said, you know, it

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doesn't matter anyway, It's just whatever whatever's on my feet.

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I thought myself, I feel like it does matter because

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I feel like i've looked at this before, and so

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you know, we went through the weekend. It was fine,

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and then so you know, the next week I came

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in and I said to my team, I said, guys,

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I want to do an experiment. And they're like, sure,

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Chris has another great idea, right, So usually they're all stale,

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they're all stupid and don't mean turned into anything I was.

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I was like, what I want to do is I

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want to I want to go on the because we

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have two sets of force plates and our simulators here,

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it's like I want I'm curious based on what's like

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my if I'm on a stable or unstable surface, just

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how much of a difference does it make in terms

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of how much force I can produce. So I said, well,

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we're gonna do We're gonna take these. You know, if

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you guys have if you've seen like a blue eric pad,

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and there's like these big blue phone pads that you'll

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see at the gym about you know, maybe two inches

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thick and they're just foam. You'll see them a lot

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in like rehab centers for balance and those sorts of things.

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So we take two of them, we put them on

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the forest plates and I do. So one of the

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big predictors of club at speed is your vertical leap,

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a jump. Right, So if you're standing, you kind of

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dip down and jump as high as you can. So

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I put those the pads down and I we turn

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on this the force plates, I do the jump, and

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the way you measure is you can measure how much

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force is put out, right, So there's about nine hundred

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to just it's about nine hundred watts of forces put out.

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So then you're like, all right, and now get rid

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of the phone and let's do it again. And so

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we throw it on and I do the same jump,

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same nothing different, and it doubles the amount of force

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that puts that's put out.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, I mean, if you're on a two inch

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Poham pad, going to lose a lot of your power,

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aren't you, because you're not really pushing off the ground.

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the analogy I would use is think of if you

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could push one hundred pounds of force into the ground, right,

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and but now you have to take you know, energy,

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the equivalent to maybe twenty pounds of that to make

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sure you don't fall over to balance. Now you can

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only push eighty pounds in right, so you'll have less

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energy to produce the force because you're using a lot

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of your energy to balance. And you know, rule one

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of the body is don't let Chris or Fred fall over, right,

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stay up right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so's and for me it's you know, as I

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get older.

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Speaker 1: It becomes more important, exactly right, So you know, and

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so so we do that, and you know, we're like, Okay,

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that's cool. But if we're filming this whole thing, we

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have a YouTube video that we're eventually going to put

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out at some point. But you know, I'm like, all right,

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that's cool. But who cares, right, because you know the

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golfer I had, you know, there's members in here all

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the time, and I'm like, guys, this is amazing. You

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see this, And the average golfer looks me, They're like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, let me ask you this. Did you do this in?

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What were the shoes that you were wearing, just wearing

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golf shoes, were wearing.

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Speaker 1: Just regular kind of comfortable sneakers. Right, So basically, what

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I think of the Eric's pad is like an exaggeration

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of an unstable surface versus a stable surface. So if

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we're talking, if we tie this circles back to golf shoes,

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a comfortable golf shoe like kind of casual, no spikes,

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maybe just a couple of little nubs on the bottom,

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versus you know, your traditional kind of hard, hard, basic.

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last you know, fifteen years or so.

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tour the tour players, over eighty percent of them wear spikes,

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but I look at the amateurs, it's basically flips or

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almost eighty percent of them don't wear spikes, right, So,

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so basically what that is is that's an exaggeration of Hey,

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if I'm on a non spikeless shoe and an eRx

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pad versus a spiked shoe, which I'm jumping on the

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ground because there's there's my balance is going to be

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connected there. So so then we're all right, let's swing

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a golf club and see if this actually means anything.

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So bring the golf pads, you know, put them back,

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or the eRx pads we put them on the force plates.

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Swing club ed speed it's like one O seven, one

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O seven, one o eight. Right, take get rid of

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the force this the phone pads. Guess what the club

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ed speed was greater significantly one six It was like

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one it was almost one sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Wow, so that is significant.

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Speaker 1: That's almost it's over twenty yards almost. We're getting towards

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thirty yards. So that's obviously an exaggeration, right because you're

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sitting on a two inch pad. So then if you

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if you you know, bringing this truly like a golf

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shoe differential what we've then because then we start testing

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the actual shoes because now I'm like, okay, now I'm

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very curious when you actually test a golf shoe. It

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can be up to up to ten yards three miles

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an hour difference if the shoe does not match your

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foot and if if you have not like a spike

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versus no spike. So there's two elements. There's an external

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element and an internal element. So I think of the

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external is spike or no spike, right, so that's going

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to connect you to the ground. On the external side.

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The other element is you know.

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Speaker 3: Some people spikes, the spikes will connect you to the.

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Speaker 1: Ground, correct, yep. So having a spike will connect you

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to the ground. That will increase the amount of ground

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force you can create, which then obviously increases club at speed.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So that's that alone is like three miles an hour.

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type of shoe on the inside, based on your foot.

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So if you have a flat foot, that's what's technically

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what's called a hypermobile, So it's basically you don't have

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an arch, so it just collapses. If you get into

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a shoe that's going to give you a little bit

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more support, give you a little bit more of an arch.

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It actually gives you better connection to the ground that

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can increase so that can that will increase the amount

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of force you can produce even more so for more

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speed Versus if you have a very high arch that's

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called our rigid foot doesn't collapse at all. Getting a

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shoe that actually promotes a little bit more mobility to

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promote a little bit more connection to the ground will

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also increase your club speed because it increases the amount

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of connection you have, which increases the amount of force

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that you can produce. So there's an internal element and

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an external element to the shoe. We're not even talking

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about the fitness element that then adds on top of that.

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This is like just simply you know, people talk about

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the ball roll back and the impact. Literally just getting

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the right shoe totally erases any ball roll back, like

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it's ten yards immediately right there. And I think it's

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such an overlooked element when we're talking about performance or

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fitness for golfers. What is the footworth that they are

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or are not wearing. So it was just a fun

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study that we did and it was like the one

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out of one hundred where I was like, ah, that

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actually showed something. It exaggerated it. And then when we

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tested it in an actual golf shoe with spikes versus

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not with spikes, it actually carried over as well too.

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Speaker 3: So for the average golfer. How do I translate that information?

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Speaker 1: So, for the average golfer, wearing spikes will increase your

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club as speed, or I should say this, wearing spikes

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will increase the amount of force you can produce into

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the ground. So if you produce the force at the

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wrong time, you may not see an increasing club as speed.

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So meaning if we think of a professional golfer swinging

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a golf club, they are going to produce the max

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amount of force. Think of like a vertical like drive

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into their lead leg from the top of the swing

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until left arm lead arm is parallel to the ground

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on their downswing. Right an amateur golfer is going to

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typically produce all that force too late, so add impact

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or after impact. And when we look at ground forces,

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the amount of vertical force you can produce into the ground,

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amount you can push into the ground if you're gonna jump,

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particularly into your lead leg, the amount that you can produce,

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and assuming you do that at the right time, has

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a direct connection to drive. It causes kliphet speed to

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go up. So having the better connection through footwear is

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going to give you the opportunity to produce more force.

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There obviously is the caveat You got to produce it

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at the right time. There's a skill element there. But

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the other piece physically in terms of what that means

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for you, just the golfer listening right now, if you

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go out and buy say you're wearing a casual shoe

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right now, and you go out and you're like, all right,

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I listened to this guy. He said to go get

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shoes that connect me to the ground. With spikes in them.

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If you go buy spiked shoes but you don't have

475
00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:47,640
the hip mobility to actually clear into your lead hip right, well,

476
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,720
now you're just gonna wreck. You're gonna like wrench up

477
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,839
your knee or your back because your foot is now

478
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,440
planted and your hip doesn't move. So and typically what

479
00:23:57,519 --> 00:23:59,240
you'll see in these guys this you know, if this

480
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:02,160
is you, if this describes you listening right now, what

481
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,920
you're seeing in your spikeliss shoe is as you swing

482
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,839
through through impact, your lead foot will spin out right.

483
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,680
It basically releases to really because your hip isn't giving

484
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,759
you anything, so it's going to release from there because

485
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:18,200
your knee joint is not a rotary joint. So it's

486
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:21,759
in a very interesting discussion because I think it's irrelevant

487
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,480
for a lot of things. When it comes to speed

488
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,519
and performance as a golfer, we want the quick fix,

489
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,039
So we're going to go do the speed training. We're

490
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,599
going to go buy the speed training thing. We're going

491
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,319
to go buy the new driver. Don't just you know,

492
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,400
I'm gonna go buy the new shoe that's going to

493
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,119
connect me to the ground quicker. But if you don't

494
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,319
have the physical capabilities to stay safe while adding the

495
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,200
speed that can lead to injury. And I think that's

496
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,480
always the caveat that I'm always preaching about, is adding

497
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,799
speed is easy. Right if you're solely said, I don't

498
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:52,240
care about getting hurt, I just want to swing faster. Great,

499
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,039
do speed training, get a really long club forty eight

500
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:59,680
inch shaft, and get your foot connected to the ground.

501
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,400
But if you don't have the physical prerequisites basically to

502
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,359
allow that to be done safely, then you do potentially

503
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,680
bring an injury risk. For sure.

504
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: Is this information scientific or anecdotal? I mean, you did

505
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,359
your test, but it's you, it's you know, one test.

506
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yes, it's scientific. So I'm not the only

507
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:30,599
one who's done it. So there was actually a lot

508
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,960
of research back. This is probably five to ten years ago,

509
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,960
done by foot Joy, foot Joy and body tracks. This

510
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,680
is before force plates were really widely available. It was

511
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,319
a it was called a pressure plate, so they were

512
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:47,319
trying to improve pressure ratings. I know Squares Golf Shoes

513
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,160
has done a ton of research on this, so it's

514
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,839
it's not unique to me. This is a brand agnostic

515
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,160
kind of science. Nerd just looking at how can I

516
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,119
help somebody increase club at speed. What are all the

517
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,200
different levers I can pull for somebody? And so it

518
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,200
is you know, and then we've have sense run this

519
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,119
obviously internally with all of the different golfers that come

520
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,160
in and hey, what's your clubhead speed?

521
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:12,599
Speaker 3: You?

522
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: If you have good hip mobility, you pass your four

523
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,599
rotational mobility centers which we've talked about on the show before,

524
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,839
and we have the home assessment that people do and hey,

525
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,599
you pass that, this is an option for you. We

526
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,519
can get you in a better shoe and this is

527
00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:29,920
a like quick immediate clubhead speed boost and if you

528
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,119
have good mobility, we were able to do that safely.

529
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:38,720
So I think the the one caveat it will increase

530
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,079
your force production. Now if you do it at the

531
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,960
right time, Yeah, it depends on the person, right and

532
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,480
then then that's another discussion of training and those sorts

533
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:51,000
of things. But yeah, if you improve your connection to

534
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480
the ground, you will increase the amount of produce a

535
00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,640
force you can produce that as a kind of causational

536
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,960
In terms of scientific I've.

537
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: Had multiple guests on who are shoe manufacturers and inventors,

538
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,079
including Robert from Squares. He was I think this was

539
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,000
like the first podcast that he was on, so I've

540
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,160
been with him since the beginning, and I've always been fascinated.

541
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,519
And I don't remember who exactly told me, but I

542
00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:20,200
think it was Squares. It said, if you can twist

543
00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:24,319
your shoe in your hand, that's a bad golf shoe.

544
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,920
You need a very sturdy golf shoe. From the fitness

545
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,920
side of that, Does that hold up? Do you agree

546
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,160
with that?

547
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,039
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think everything is on a continuum, right, So

548
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:40,359
I think if you had at its core, yes, that

549
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,920
is accurate. I think there's varying levels of that based

550
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,480
on what the foot is, right, And that's where there's

551
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,160
different styles of shoes, right. There's going to be some

552
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,640
that are more rigid, there'll be some that are have

553
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,559
a little bit more flexibility. But yeah, if you can

554
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,079
rotate it back and back and forth, and the ultimate

555
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,480
goal of that shoe is to produce as much is

556
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:05,559
a performance driving shoe, to produce as much force as possible,

557
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:08,880
which then drives as much speed as possible. One hundred

558
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,759
percent yes, right, And I think that's always the challenge

559
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:15,079
with that shoe companies will have is they have to

560
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,759
balance that scientific fact with comfort, right, which is why

561
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,720
the spikeless just kind of I want to wear it

562
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:30,200
to the grocery store. Shoe has been become so popular, right,

563
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,799
and so you know, in a perfect world, yeah, that's

564
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,839
what every shoe would look like. But people want to

565
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,240
they want to look stylish, they want it to be comfortable.

566
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:46,039
The amateur will generally prioritize comfort and look over the

567
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,559
performance side, but they'll go up by the new driver,

568
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,559
you know, every year, right, because they're going to gain

569
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:52,839
twenty yards every single year.

570
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: And we know that's not true unless you work on

571
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:04,480
your speed. So do this. And if you don't know

572
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:08,000
this answered, that's okay. But it's like, does the squares

573
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:14,039
shoe that squared off toe and the rigid bottom is

574
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:16,559
in fact? Is that a better shoe? I mean you

575
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,519
got guys like Nick Faldo and John Daley saying, oh yeah,

576
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:23,519
I swear by these. Is that a better golf shoe?

577
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:27,039
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the toe box design that they've done. Now,

578
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:31,000
I haven't actually researched these at this point, I had them.

579
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,160
We actually are doing some stuff where they actually are

580
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,039
sending us some to do some research on them, which

581
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,599
I think is really cool. Yeah, we're going to actually

582
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,440
we're running a study with a number of our different

583
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,839
of our clients trying different shoes and seeing so you know,

584
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,759
I could speak intelligently at that point. What I will say,

585
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,039
just based on the biomechanics of the foot and the

586
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,039
footwear and that toe box, it makes sense, like it

587
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,839
does when you look at the studies that they've had done.

588
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:05,480
It makes sense. You know. I think everything that Squares

589
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:08,839
as a company seems to go after his performance based right,

590
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:16,000
and so from that approach, it's right, you know, from

591
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,480
a style, you know, those are all other discussions of

592
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,440
I think, if we're strictly talking it, how do I

593
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,160
get the most out of a shoe as defined by

594
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:27,920
you know comfort? You know, the wider toe box is

595
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,839
going to give you more what I was talking about, Like,

596
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,440
if you have a rigid foot, you want a footwear

597
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,000
that's going to try to get more connection to the

598
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,160
ground so you have the ability to put more force.

599
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,119
The wider toe box is going to allow you to

600
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:41,720
do that versus you have a really narrow shoe. The

601
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000
extreme would be think of like a woman in a

602
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,559
high heel, like with a like super tight and like

603
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:50,680
a high heel that they'd a stiletto that they would

604
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,960
wear to like a wedding, Like not a lot of

605
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,759
ground force going to come off of that toe box right,

606
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:57,640
like right that they're ripping their shoes off because their

607
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,920
feet are bruised and bloody at the end too, exactly

608
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,279
right when they're dancing starts, right, So that'd be one extreme.

609
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:05,160
You go the total opposite extreme, and that's where you

610
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,519
have the rigid kind of support. You have the wider

611
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,480
toe box so that you can actually drive from the

612
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:13,759
first methead all the way to the fifth met head,

613
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,720
you know, under the big toe to under the little toe.

614
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,960
So all of that is one hundred percent on point.

615
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing is for me and I really

616
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,640
like the square shoes. I've liked them a lot in

617
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:32,000
the past, but since I walk the course a lot,

618
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:35,920
most of the time, my feet hurt, my ankle's hurt

619
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:40,799
wearing those and walking in those, and I've really had

620
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:46,119
to adjust my shoe wear and decide where I go

621
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:50,680
because you know, in northern California, we have very hilly courses.

622
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:56,319
There's a lot of elevation change, and so some shoes

623
00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,559
just hurt at the end of the round, not just

624
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,359
my feet and my legs, but my back.

625
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think this is this is getting into

626
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,720
my geekiness of researching shoes. And I know, I know weight,

627
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:12,599
like the weights of different shoes and stuff like. I

628
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,039
think if you're looking at across the shoe spectrum, you know,

629
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:20,720
if we're talking on the square specifically, like when they

630
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:22,640
came out, if you look at it was a couple

631
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,319
at least one hundred grams heavier their earlier shoes than

632
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,799
their their later shoes, right, And so I think that's

633
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:31,119
been the balance talking about the continuum of if you

634
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,599
go straight up performance, it's going to be a heavier

635
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,240
shoe because you have to put materials in there that

636
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:40,559
are going to give you something to push against, you know.

637
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:42,559
So I think what you've started to see, particularly as

638
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,079
you go through the technology and the innovation of materials

639
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:47,599
and all those sorts of things, I think you're going

640
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,119
to continue to see shoes that are going to drop

641
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,960
on the weight side and while being able to maintain

642
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,160
that on the stability side. And I think that in

643
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,640
my opinion, on the shoe side of things, that's where

644
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,000
it's going to continue to go. And looking at how

645
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,400
can we get this shoe as light as possible, with

646
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,720
as much connection as possible, with as much support as possible,

647
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:14,000
and and be weatherproof right and look cool and feel

648
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:17,759
comfortable right like all those other all those things. So,

649
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:20,480
but that's I think one of the things just looking

650
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:23,160
at if we take Squares as the ultimate kind of

651
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,039
performance focused shoe, it was heavy, you know when it

652
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,559
first came out, and if you now look at it,

653
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,839
you know, there's there's foot joy shoes that are lighter.

654
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,599
There's also some that are heavier. Like there's there's other

655
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,160
brands out there that now you know, the Square shoes

656
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,240
are not the heaviest. Uh. And I think you're going

657
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:44,319
to continue to see that across the shoe spectrum, across

658
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:45,079
all those companies.

659
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Are you familiar with the Afalon's affalons.

660
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:53,079
Speaker 1: I've heard of that. I have not like dove into

661
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:53,519
those at all.

662
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,319
Speaker 3: Were those We did an episode with him, and I

663
00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:59,839
like those a lot. They the bottom of him had

664
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,319
like I can't explain it and I'm just moving my

665
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,279
hand and the listeners have no idea what I'm talking about. Okay,

666
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,920
But the Aline and Sketchers got into the game as well,

667
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:14,159
and I'm a huge fan of Sketcher shoes, although I've

668
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,199
the I do have a pair of Sketchers for my

669
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,719
winter shoes, but I've never gotten the more recent ones.

670
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,960
Are they in it for the style of it and

671
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,519
just be able to get old guys to be their

672
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:33,000
test do their testimonials, you know, Ringo Star and Tony

673
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:33,880
Romo And you.

674
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Know, I have no idea in that one. Yeah, I

675
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,519
think I just always try in the fitness space, in

676
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:43,559
the rehab space that's obviously where I live. I just

677
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,760
always try to boil it down to kind of first

678
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,960
principle thinking, right, and if I'm talking about performance, what

679
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,840
are the first principles of a footwear ground for ground

680
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,559
reaction forces and connection to the ground. And that's ay,

681
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:57,400
it needs to be connected, it needs to be stable.

682
00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:00,960
You need to have you know, basic physics. Force pushed

683
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,119
down against, We'll get a reciprocal force back up. Right,

684
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:05,840
So if I can put if I have more to

685
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,440
put something against, I'll get more back up. That's why

686
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,199
if you go out and it's just pouring, just poured rain,

687
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,360
playing it's wet and soggy, you're not going to hit

688
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,840
it as far. You're not going to swing as fast

689
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,119
because you don't have the ground connection. And then and

690
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:21,760
then yeah, because you think about.

691
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,119
Speaker 3: It, and I always blamed it the balls not rolling.

692
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,119
Speaker 1: Well there's that too. It's also going to stop and

693
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:29,599
not go anywhere. But think think of the erxpad experiment

694
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,119
that I just talked about, you know, to a lesser degree.

695
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:35,440
If it's super soggy, you're basically hitting off eRx pads right,

696
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,199
your feet are slipping a little bit, it's a little mushy,

697
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:40,719
you know. Versus if it's hard and firm, you're gonna

698
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,480
be able to really dive in, you drive in, and

699
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:44,320
it's going to se your foot's going to stay connected.

700
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,920
So like, those principles don't change. Obviously there's preferences in

701
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,320
style and comfort and all those sorts of things, and

702
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,639
you know, the different companies take different approaches there. But

703
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,199
the first principle, the foundational principles of producing speed from

704
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,639
a performance standpoint, don't change.

705
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: Lots of times on the show, we'll talk about with

706
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,159
fitness people and even equipment people, it's like, you know,

707
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,760
the balls, they their technology is getting better, and the clubs,

708
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,559
their technology is getting better. And people think that if

709
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,519
I get a new club or I get new balls

710
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,679
that I'm going to get greater distance. You may get

711
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,159
a little more. But really we come back to this

712
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,079
conversation that we've had so often that the most important

713
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:41,719
tool in your bag is your body, and if you

714
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,880
want to get greater distance, it's more about your swing speed.

715
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean definitely, if you want a sustainable

716
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,920
difference or a distance, it's your body, right, So you know,

717
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,159
go buy a pair of shoes that connect to the ground.

718
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,639
You can swing the club faster. Go do some speed

719
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:04,519
training drills, or get a different driver your clubhets. Maybe

720
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,639
you can move that clubhead faster. Go take lessons and

721
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,960
get more efficient. You know, technically you can swing it faster.

722
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,280
At the end of the day, the engine that drives

723
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,239
all of that is your body. And your engine's only

724
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,000
as big as your engine is, right, and you're in

725
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:23,960
that engine. I think it is. A car has a

726
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,880
has a set of brakes that you know, that's your

727
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:33,000
your strength, that that is capable of slowing down a

728
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,559
certain speed, right, And so this is all the research

729
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,119
that we've done. I think one of the other myths

730
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:39,559
that you always hear is like, oh, just as you

731
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:44,400
get older, you're naturally going to lose distance, like, Okay, yes,

732
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:49,840
but the average guy. But when we look, yeah, but yeah, yeah,

733
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,159
and yeah, and the average guy who doesn't do the

734
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,800
right stuff. What we're seeing in our database just points

735
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,599
over fifteen thousand guys that we've seen change data. We've

736
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,320
got a number of guys that been in the dayabase

737
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,840
for over a decade. You're seeing guys lose if they

738
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
don't do the right things. They will lose ten miles

739
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:12,079
an hour a decade if guys are doing the right thing.

740
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:14,480
So if we look, if we compare those at the

741
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:16,480
you know, the control group, guys who don't do anything,

742
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,719
compared to the guys who've been with us for ten

743
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,559
plus years, those guys don't. We can't stop loss with age.

744
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:26,039
Like guy, we have one guy, he's started at seventy,

745
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,360
he's now eighty four. I can't. I'm not going to

746
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,440
stop him from losing distance. But what we've seen is

747
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:35,679
his rate of loss is eighty percent less. So instead

748
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,320
of losing ten miles an hour, he's only lost two

749
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,719
in the last ten years.

750
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: That's significant, it's massive, and that's because he's working out

751
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,679
regularly on the correct things to work out.

752
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's got his engine right, and so he's

753
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,920
keeping making sure he's mobile and his hips and his

754
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,920
spine and his shoulder and his neck, and he's making

755
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,960
sure that he's strong enough to support the speeds. This

756
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,440
with our database at this point, it's it's just a

757
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,679
math equation, right. You say, hey, Fred, how fast do

758
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:04,519
you want to swing? You say, I want to swing

759
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:06,800
one hundred miles an hour. Two hundred. Great, we'll go

760
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,199
for two hundred. We have an equation for that you'd

761
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,519
be you'd still be thirty miles or twenty seven miles

762
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,440
an hour faster than the world long drive guys that

763
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:13,719
we have.

764
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: But they're kids, you know.

765
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:19,599
Speaker 1: Records are made to be broken. But yeah, you say, hey,

766
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:21,119
I want to swing whatever it is, two hundre miles

767
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:22,000
an hour, hundred miles an hour.

768
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:23,159
Speaker 3: I'd love to get to one hundred.

769
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you say one hundred miles an hour, we

770
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,280
can say, hey, well, if you want to get there,

771
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,079
to do that safely, meaning you can swing one hundred

772
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:33,199
both physically your body is able to do one hundred

773
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,920
and five, right, so you're not redlining every single time.

774
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,920
Your mobility and your hip needs to be X amount

775
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,119
of degrees and we do it. We can do it

776
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:44,679
based on your age, because you know, at fifty versus

777
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,519
at twenty, to swing one hundred miles an hour, the

778
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:52,199
mobility requirement is different, the strength requirement is different in

779
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,599
terms of to do it safely. And so that's where

780
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:56,280
you can say based on your age, you know this

781
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,519
is these would be the degrees of mobility you need

782
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:03,719
in your join. These would be the strength numbers of

783
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,480
your squat movement, a hinge or a deadlift movement, a press,

784
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:11,480
an upper body push movement. Right, these would be that

785
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,559
those are that's you're breaking. So it's like how good

786
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:17,400
are your breaks? And then then there's power tests your

787
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:19,880
lower body how you know your vertical leap how much

788
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,920
force can you produce through your legs? And then also

789
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,199
your upper body push power? How much force can you

790
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:27,280
produce through upper body? You know that think of that

791
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,719
as like how many RPMs do you have? Right, so

792
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:31,840
think of a car analogy. I think of your mobility

793
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,199
as how good are your tires? Your strength is how

794
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,840
good are your breaks? And then your power output is

795
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,679
how big is your engine? And when you can like

796
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,280
a plug in hybrid, plug in hybrid, those those or

797
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,440
even get an electric one. All right, those testas go.

798
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:51,079
But you know, and what it's it's just a math equation.

799
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,119
You say, hey, you know this is the speed I

800
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:56,239
want to be at, this is my age. Then okay,

801
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,079
these are the physical things that we need to train

802
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,360
up for. And so I think when you talk about

803
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:03,079
the other gentleman, Dennis, he's one of my favorite guys

804
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:07,840
in the world. Like, when people come in, the average

805
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,400
guy picks up six miles an hour in the first year, right,

806
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,239
So if you think about it, it's because they're not optimized.

807
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,440
So the average guy is going to pick up six

808
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,480
miles an hour year one, and then if he does

809
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,719
nothing else, he just if he doesn't gain ever again,

810
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,400
which they actually tend to gain about another two miles

811
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,639
an hour each year for the next three Let's say

812
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,960
they stop at six. If he loses two miles an

813
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,119
hour every decade, we got thirty years till he's back

814
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:38,159
to where he started, which is crazy. But there's this

815
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,119
myth that hey, once I hit fifty, it's all downhill,

816
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,119
or for some guys, it's once I hit thirty, I'm

817
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,159
all down it's.

818
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm turning seventy.

819
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: It just changes. Right, It's based on perspective. Right, you're

820
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:54,599
almost seventy now you're like, hey, when I was thirty, man,

821
00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:56,639
I was great. Right. The guy who just turned it.

822
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:58,599
Speaker 3: Didn't play golf until I was in my forties. That

823
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,559
really screwed.

824
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,639
Speaker 1: But I think that's that's a huge myth that a

825
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:05,519
lot of people have, is that this idea that when

826
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,760
I get older, I'm going to lose. And have yet

827
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,039
to meet a guy over the age of thirty who

828
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,559
came in one hundred percent optimized, meaning they had nothing

829
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:18,400
to gain, and we were totally in just lost prevention mode.

830
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,920
So you know, all those guys, everybody comes in, they

831
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,440
all can gain. And then if you just keep doing

832
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,400
the right stuff, like fifteen minutes a day, like it

833
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,000
doesn't take a lot, Guys, you can truly only lose

834
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,559
like two miles an hour a decade, and all your

835
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:35,760
peers are losing ten.

836
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,199
Speaker 3: Tell me, give me fifteen minutes a day. What do

837
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,960
I need to be doing. I'd love to do. I

838
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:44,800
will do fifteen minutes a day forever.

839
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that's well. So that's where we

840
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:50,280
always start with the assessment. So you know, you do

841
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:53,000
you do your your mobility assessment. So I always think

842
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,119
of a remember the nutritional pyramid, right, and then we

843
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:02,199
realized that it didn't really makes sense and whatever. You anyway,

844
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,039
that's another rabbit hole cap exactly right. So like remember

845
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:07,880
like where carbs used to be at the bottom, right,

846
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,920
So that's that's think of that is you know, I

847
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,519
think of golf performance, think of it as like a

848
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,559
performance pyramid. I think of that that's your mobility, right.

849
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:17,559
So if we use the car analogy, those are your tires, right.

850
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:21,599
So the first STEPISNE is to assess your hip internal rotation,

851
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:23,760
which is your ability to rotate into your trail hip

852
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,119
on your takeaway and into your lead hip going through

853
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:30,920
impact almost seventy. We want to see that, you know,

854
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:35,320
thirty five to forty degrees both, you know, most importantly

855
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,480
on your lead side. Then we'd look at your shoulder rotation.

856
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:41,159
So I think of like a pitcher throwing a pitch

857
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,199
or a quarterback, right and then they kind of sling

858
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,800
their arm back. That movement needs to be you know,

859
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,920
almost seventy. We want to see that probably about five

860
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,880
degrees beyond spine angle. So if you think of if

861
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,880
you kind of have your arm up you know, elbow

862
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:58,760
shoulder height ninety degree, you know, bending your wrist or

863
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,119
entire in your elbow, just kind of rotate your arm

864
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:04,880
back like you're gonna throw a pitch right that forearm

865
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,400
should get you know, zero is if it's equal to

866
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,880
your spine angle A zero, it should get five degrees

867
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,199
passed when you're it's easy when you're sitting. You got

868
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,400
to do it when you're standing in golf posture, right,

869
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,880
because now you got all of a sudden because now

870
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,719
you have to fight gravity and you're doing it in

871
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,760
the specific position that you would do it when you're

872
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,320
when you're playing. Okay, so you gotta pass. Those are

873
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,599
the two big ones that everybody struggles with. There's also

874
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,800
like we look at thracic rotation, which is, you know,

875
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,199
give your arms crossed on your shoulders, rotating as far

876
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,599
as you can each direction right, getting towards seventy. We

877
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,000
want to see at least you know, fifty degrees each way.

878
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,679
You know, so if you think of if you're if

879
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,360
you're facing a computer screen, that'd be zero. If you

880
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,320
turned totally sideways, that would be ninety, right, So can

881
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:55,320
we get halfway there? So a spinning chair makes that easy. Yeah, right,

882
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,559
but that's think of that as like your base level, right,

883
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,920
and so that's step one. And if we don't pass there,

884
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:02,599
all we do for fifteen minutes a day is we

885
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:05,239
work on improving those areas until we start to pass them.

886
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: Are we get to what specific exercises that I should

887
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:11,840
be working on? Since you're in North Carolina.

888
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,159
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and I'm not. Yeah, So this is where

889
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,199
that's why we work with people. We do this people

890
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:18,400
all over the world, right, so, oh you do this remotely?

891
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,480
Oh yeah, ninety ninety percent of our business is remote. Yeah,

892
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,719
so we work with about over a thousand people around

893
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,519
the world. And so so this is where yeah, well,

894
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,480
well personally, if we get off this, we'll get you

895
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:31,239
an assessment and we'll give you all the stuff you

896
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,559
need to do. But you know, for everyone listening, your

897
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,280
first step is typically going to be you know, soft

898
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,320
tissue work, which is you know, rolling on a phone

899
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,920
roller using la crossball. Right, we got to get the tissue.

900
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,079
I was using analogy. Every muscle has a sleeve around it.

901
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,599
So if you're wearing a sleeve, if you raise your

902
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:49,679
arm up, your sleeve slides down your arm. Right, if

903
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,840
you grab the bottom of your sleeve and hold it

904
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,320
in tight to your chest. All of a sudden, your

905
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,039
arm doesn't move anywhere, right because the sleeve is restricting it.

906
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,079
So what basically the goal of the soft tissue mobility

907
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:02,519
is to basically remove that restriction. To think of like

908
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:04,679
your arms almost duct taped to your side. We got

909
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,000
to rip off the duct tape and that's where we

910
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:12,199
see huge improvements and mobility. Like for like week two weeks,

911
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,119
all of a sudden, you go from hey, I got

912
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:16,480
ten degrees and it's cramping to I get to twenty

913
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:19,559
or you know, twenty five, like I've doubled it, and

914
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:24,119
that just fixing. Just doing those mobility exercises for people

915
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:27,079
gets rid of a lot of pain for them. They

916
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:29,840
immediately will start to like, oh I'm turning more, I'm

917
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,880
not sore after I play the round of golf, like,

918
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,000
oh I will you know, I wasn't able to move

919
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,400
my hips first, Like particularly like guys who were good

920
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,159
players when they were younger, right, and they they understand

921
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,159
the movement they're supposed to do mentally, but physically they

922
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,079
can't do it, can't do it. Right, You give that

923
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:48,039
guy mobility and his hip back, and it's like and

924
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:50,639
his buddies are like, oh my god, like, what'd you do?

925
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: Right?

926
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: And not not to mention his balls going farther than

927
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,639
there's now, but like that's that's literally just level one.

928
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:58,840
Then you move up. Level two is how do we

929
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,800
get you stronger? Right, So, whether it's you know, squat

930
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,119
type movements or hinge type movements, which are like a

931
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:08,000
you know, whether it's kettlebell swings or kettlebell deadlifts or

932
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:10,599
banded lifts, right, how do we get your hips stronger?

933
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: Right?

934
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:13,559
Speaker 1: Bridges would be the simplest example of that. How do

935
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,599
we strengthen basically like the backside of your legs, your button,

936
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:19,679
your ham strings, right, So those are your two lower

937
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,559
body and then you're also working getting stronger in your

938
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,360
upper body, which you know, have like a bench press

939
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,400
type movement, whether it's with dumbells or barbell or cables,

940
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,880
whatever it may be. Those are the big ones that

941
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,480
we really want to see ge get stronger with. And

942
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:36,000
then you get to power, right, and power is how

943
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:37,840
much force you can produce and how fast you can

944
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,920
do it. So where strength is like I just if

945
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,800
I'm going to push fifty pounds it can take me

946
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,559
two minutes to get it from the bottom to the top.

947
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:49,199
I just need to move it. Power is can I

948
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:50,960
get it from the bottom of the How quickly can

949
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,320
I get it from the bottom to the top. Right, So,

950
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,159
if you can move fifty pounds but it takes you

951
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:57,800
a minute, that is less powerful than if you can

952
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,800
move fifty pounds the same distance in one set. Right,

953
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,280
So that's where the explosiveness comes from. And so those

954
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,039
are kind of the big three categories. And so during

955
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:10,400
that fifteen minutes a day, because you're assessing, you know

956
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,559
exactly it is what you kind of you get rid

957
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,280
of all the extra noise and you're solely focusing on

958
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,639
what is the low hanging fruit for you at that moment.

959
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: When I go to the gym, I generally bypass the

960
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,800
weight room and go right to the pool and try

961
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,960
to get some swimming in. Should I be spending more

962
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:34,920
time lifting weights or if you want distance, Yes, it's

963
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,599
the resistance that I get from the pool without having

964
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:43,559
to create pain. Yeah, that is that helpful or not?

965
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: Or this is all Yeah, I mean it's helpful from

966
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,559
the general health and wellness cardiovascular benefits to it, right,

967
00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:55,239
like general well being by all means keep swimming if

968
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,199
you're trying to improve. And it's the same discussion around

969
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,159
like guys are like, well, I do cardio, you know,

970
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,159
I get on the elliptical and I go like, great,

971
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,559
there's nothing wrong with that. It's just you're moving long,

972
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:09,199
it's for a longer duration of time, and you're moving slowly.

973
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:12,840
Is that what you want in your golf swing?

974
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 3: No?

975
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: Right, right? So, and that's where I think you get to.

976
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,559
The golf is a power sport. The entire swing, like

977
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:22,599
the down swings less than a second, the entire swing.

978
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,320
You know, maybe not even too right, thanks John Daly?

979
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,320
Maybe yeah, But so I think you got to think

980
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,519
of how you want to train, how you want to play.

981
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:34,320
So if I want to play an explosive sport, I

982
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,719
want to swing faster, I'm upset that I'm losing speed, Well,

983
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,199
I probably should do stuff that would help me swing faster,

984
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,800
and that's going to be producing force. Right. So basically,

985
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,239
like think of like lifting weights. If you're lifting more

986
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,880
than six reps, like say, if you have a weight

987
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,599
that you can do fifteen times, you're not developing strength,

988
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:57,960
You're developed You're doing It's called hypertrophy, you're trying to

989
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,280
like build mass or build muscle fibers. Ultimately we want

990
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,480
for golf is we just want to be able to

991
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,920
produce a lot of force or however how much force

992
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,440
we need. So there's no need to do more than

993
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,360
five or six reps because that's kind of the physiologically

994
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,800
the strength range. And so if you want to you know,

995
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,400
if you're in an off season and you want to

996
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,679
do a lot of reps because you want to put

997
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:19,280
on a base or build a bigger engine, that's when

998
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,519
we would do ten fifteen reps in a set. But

999
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,800
that's going to make you sore, So you don't want

1000
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,400
to do that when you're in season. When you're in season,

1001
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,719
like our guys on tour now, they're doing three to

1002
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,920
five reps max in a set, right, so the weight

1003
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,599
they're using is going to be relatively heavier because they're

1004
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,400
only lifting it three to five times. They couldn't lift

1005
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,599
it fifteen times. But the number of repetitions they do

1006
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,480
is less. That puts less stress on the nervous system muscularly,

1007
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:48,159
they're not sore and allows them to perform their best.

1008
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:51,159
So that it starts getting into a little bit of

1009
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:53,320
the nitty gritty, but that's how you keep it short

1010
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,480
as you say, hey, this is what I need to

1011
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,599
work on. These are the two or three things that

1012
00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:00,559
I need to do. As long as working stint with that,

1013
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:03,159
we just snowball wins and progress occurs.

1014
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: And you are at par four Success number four p

1015
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:13,519
R number four success dot com and you're also on

1016
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:17,599
Instagram and Twitter and YouTube channel to all par for.

1017
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Speaker 1: Success, all part for success. And we actually we created

1018
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,320
you know, parp success dot com slash golf Smarter, so

1019
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,639
anyone listening they can grab the home assessment for free

1020
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,760
and thank you. Yeah, and we actually if you go there,

1021
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,159
we actually we don't do this for all the shows,

1022
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:34,920
but for you for the show. For you guys listening,

1023
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,840
it's because I like I like Fred and he's had

1024
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,199
me on multiple times. Uh. We also are you have

1025
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,199
you graced me with your presence early on. I appreciate it.

1026
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,519
They gave me some street cred. Uh you know, but

1027
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:51,360
but we also after you guys, if you go to

1028
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,079
parpus dot com slash golf smarter, you'll get the home

1029
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:56,000
assessment you just put in your email, will send it

1030
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,360
to you and then it also gives you an option

1031
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,880
if you want, for a free one on one console

1032
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:01,440
one of our guys, so they'll actually go through the

1033
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,960
assessment with you live, walk you through you know what

1034
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,679
it means and all that sort of stuff too, if

1035
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,000
you wanted that sort of attention as well. So awesome,

1036
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,679
But that's that's how we keep it short and then

1037
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,360
understanding like, hey, if your shoulder is good, we're not

1038
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,679
gonna waste time on your shoulder, like put your hip stinks, well,

1039
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:17,360
then we're gonna work on your hip, and I think

1040
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,039
that's important.

1041
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: Awesome, Chris, it was great talk to you again, and

1042
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,480
also remember to check out the Golf Fitness Bomb Squad

1043
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,239
your podcast, and we will of course, as always, we'll

1044
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,920
stay in touch and we'll do this.

1045
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: Again for sure. I definitely got to have you on.

1046
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:38,679
We gotta got to hear the Master story to my listenership.

1047
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:40,719
That's a good one.