Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny.
Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.
Speaker 3: All right, hey, how you doing. Come on, let's have
Speaker 3: a seat, let's talk. This is another biohacking basic series,
Speaker 3: and today we're talking about inflation inflammation, which is a
Speaker 3: critical problem. Also gluten and everything we eat today seems
Speaker 3: to have bits and pieces of gluten, and not just
Speaker 3: our bread, not just on our pancakes and our biscuits
Speaker 3: and other goodies. It is everywhere and this is causing
Speaker 3: a huge problem. Not only gluten sensitivity, which can look
Speaker 3: like constipation, coughing, reaction, different kinds of reaction. The other
Speaker 3: thing that is a consideration with gluten is that it
Speaker 3: is everywhere. Again I mentioned it's everywhere. It's not good
Speaker 3: for you in huge quantities. And the other the bigger problem,
Speaker 3: I think, is the fact that it is being modified.
Speaker 3: It's being grossly modified from its original form for higher yields,
Speaker 3: for anti insect pellant when it's in its raw state,
Speaker 3: and when we keep modifying it, we take away the
Speaker 3: original form that the body was much more accepting of,
Speaker 3: and this is where we have poor reaction. Now, the
Speaker 3: bigger problem is inflammation, and this is what is being
Speaker 3: studied right now. And when you have inflammation of you
Speaker 3: and your body, it can cause great harm to your organs.
Speaker 3: We now understand that people who have dementia or Alzheimer's
Speaker 3: have inflamm of their brain, and I didn't realize this
Speaker 3: until very recently. And this is kind of the focus
Speaker 3: of the program today. And I am going to come clean.
Speaker 3: I'm going to come clean. I have been biohacking now
Speaker 3: for a few months. I am now on semi glue tite,
Speaker 3: which is the main compound in ozimpic. I have lost
Speaker 3: I see. I started in late August and it's a
Speaker 3: once a week my self injection is each Wednesday. It's
Speaker 3: a small little syringe. It has a quarter inch needle
Speaker 3: that you plunge in your belly fat and it's very
Speaker 3: easy to give. It's the same kind of syringe that
Speaker 3: they use when you are diabetic and you have to
Speaker 3: give yourself insulin. This is the semi glue tite is
Speaker 3: delivered in these little syringes and I haven't been on
Speaker 3: it since mid August. I've lost, like I said, two
Speaker 3: belt sizes, probably about ten pounds. But I'm taking a
Speaker 3: very low dose because one of the problems with this
Speaker 3: is that some people have nausea, they have poor reactions,
Speaker 3: and I wanted to I'm following Tina more doctor Tina
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Speaker 3: this is biohacking one A is this ozmpic or the
Speaker 3: compound in it? Now? I paid almost two hundred dollars
Speaker 3: a month for a supply of four injections. And some
Speaker 3: people might think that's a lot, but I'll tell you
Speaker 3: I've had a trouble for about ten years and losing
Speaker 3: significant weight. And it's not that I don't exercise and
Speaker 3: watch my food. It's just I have a you know,
Speaker 3: I'm getting older and the body is sluggish. And this
Speaker 3: is something. This is a miracle drug. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's funny because I'm with kids of permanente. They don't
Speaker 3: recognize it that much. They don't they won't prescribe it
Speaker 3: for obesity or for I mean, they may sub prescribe
Speaker 3: it for diabetes type two but they're not. I had
Speaker 3: to go outside of my provider. It's a clinic in
Speaker 3: text it's called amble am bl E, and they'll do
Speaker 3: a online history and there's certain criteria you can't have.
Speaker 3: If you have any kind of any kind of thyroid
Speaker 3: issues or if you have other problems, then they just can't,
Speaker 3: you know, they can't prescribe it to you. But in
Speaker 3: my case, I don't have any reactions and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So again, I've been on it since mid August. Every Wednesday,
Speaker 3: I get an injection and I'm biohacking baby. And you know,
Speaker 3: for those of you who are like, oh, you're crazy,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be doing those things, it's peptides. It's peptides.
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Speaker 3: has to say. She's a physician and she is one
Speaker 3: of the top people who are talking about working with
Speaker 3: semi glue tight injections for weight loss and in my
Speaker 3: case with heart condition. It actually helps with blood pressure,
Speaker 3: it helps with cardiac reaction, lessons, heart attacks. It's really
Speaker 3: I mean, I keep saying this. I want it for
Speaker 3: weight loss, but it has a lot of other benefits
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Speaker 3: you have any questions on what I'm doing, send me
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Speaker 3: and I'll react to you. I will definitely get back
Speaker 3: to you and tell you what I'm up to. So
Speaker 3: today's program is with doctor Tom O'Brien. He has a
Speaker 3: documentary series called the The Inflammation Equation, and he talks
Speaker 3: about how the American healthcare system is broken and you
Speaker 3: have to really take on these challenges, these physical challenges
Speaker 3: on your own in many cases, and what that means
Speaker 3: is that you just have to take do a little
Speaker 3: more research on your own. You have to look out
Speaker 3: and see I mean, and this is not looking in
Speaker 3: medical journals. Well, unless you have a major degenerative condition cancer, MS,
Speaker 3: rheumatoid arthritis, UH, the immune of affecting types of diseases,
Speaker 3: you may have to go and do a little research
Speaker 3: in a medical journal. But for the most part, if
Speaker 3: you have a condition, and remember, biohacking is about taking
Speaker 3: back your health, but not simply taking back your health.
Speaker 3: It's being as well as you can as long as
Speaker 3: you can and being as active as you can body
Speaker 3: mind and spirit brain. You don't want dementia, you don't
Speaker 3: want problems with your cognition your body. You want to
Speaker 3: be able to move around. You don't want to be
Speaker 3: saddled to a chair or a couch in your senior years.
Speaker 3: You want to be as active as possible. So this
Speaker 3: is why we're doing this biohacking series. So you're going
Speaker 3: to hear a lot of controversy in this program, but
Speaker 3: I think that this is something that you can definitely
Speaker 3: be a part of if you're interested and you want
Speaker 3: to gain greater insight into what's going on with your body.
Speaker 3: So today's program is the Inflammation Equation, and my guest
Speaker 3: is doctor Tom O'Brien.
Speaker 1: I did a lot of.
Speaker 4: Never did argy just because the thought of being vulnerable
Speaker 4: made me feel less than I.
Speaker 5: I have never fouled until you answered, and from that moment.
Speaker 1: I knew that all.
Speaker 3: As we continue our Buying Old Hacking series, we're talking
Speaker 3: today on nutrition choices in healthcare and my guest today
Speaker 3: is doctor Tom O'Brian. He is a doctor of chiropractor.
Speaker 3: He is an award winning author, an internationally recognized leader, speaker,
Speaker 3: and educator, and expert on autoimmune diseases and metabolic disorders.
Speaker 3: He's also the author of The Autoimmune Fix, How to
Speaker 3: stop the hidden autoimmune damage that keeps you sick, fat
Speaker 3: and tired before it turns into disease. That's a hell
Speaker 3: of a long title, but we're going to hear about it.
Speaker 3: And then the other book that I discovered that he
Speaker 3: wrote is called You Can Fix Your Brain just one
Speaker 3: hour a week to the best memory, productivity and sleep
Speaker 3: you've ever had. These are books that he has written,
Speaker 3: but more importantly, he has just released, or it's been
Speaker 3: out for a couple of years now, a documentary series
Speaker 3: called The Inflammation Equation. And this is very very important
Speaker 3: for us because not only does it have to do
Speaker 3: with what we do in terms of nutrition, what we eat,
Speaker 3: but also how to be aware of your healthcare. So, hey, Tom,
Speaker 3: welcome to Destiny. Great to have you.
Speaker 6: Thanks clip a couple of things that I made to
Speaker 6: start off with. The Inflammation Equation launched in April of
Speaker 6: this year.
Speaker 3: So oh, it's clearly new.
Speaker 6: Okay, five months five months ago and already we're up
Speaker 6: for some awards, and you know, the feedback has been
Speaker 6: just marvelous, marvelous. And on the titles of the books.
Speaker 6: You know they're both published by Rodale, And for two
Speaker 6: weeks I argued with Roadale about the titles because they
Speaker 6: wanted some different title. I don't know. You can fix
Speaker 6: your Brain, that's the title of the book. Then they
Speaker 6: put in the clip, which I agreed with because it
Speaker 6: actually is the secret to success. And for all of
Speaker 6: your listeners, they watch a show where you bring on
Speaker 6: some expert and he talks about his field of expertise,
Speaker 6: and then people are engaged wanting to do that. But
Speaker 6: then the next week there's a new expert, and people
Speaker 6: are engaged and they want to do that, and they
Speaker 6: get overwhelmed and they throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Speaker 6: But the secret to success in changing the direction of
Speaker 6: your health is you allocate one hour a week every
Speaker 6: Tuesday night after dinner, every Sunday after services, whenever it is.
Speaker 6: But every week you tell your family, don't bother me
Speaker 6: for this hour, I'm going to spend some time to
Speaker 6: learn a little more how we can be healthier. And
Speaker 6: then you take one of the topics that you heard of,
Speaker 6: such as you store your leftover food and plastic containers
Speaker 6: and refrigerator. The next day that food is loaded with folly,
Speaker 6: the chemicals used to mold plastic. It leached out of
Speaker 6: the containers into the food, and you said, wait, wait,
Speaker 6: what what? And then but then you learn in the
Speaker 6: book that here's three URLs for glass storage containers, and
Speaker 6: you go online and you look at Miles Kimball dot
Speaker 6: com and Amazon and whatever. The third one is I remember,
Speaker 6: and you say, oh, I really like those, I really
Speaker 6: like those. And so you order those three round ones,
Speaker 6: two square ones, one for the pie. You pay with
Speaker 6: your credit card, hit send. It took an hour, but
Speaker 6: then you're done for the week. But never again will
Speaker 6: you poison your family with minute amounts of these endocrine disruptors,
Speaker 6: these hormone disruptors called pallates. You'll never give them, these
Speaker 6: minute amounts that accumulate in the body over the years.
Speaker 6: So next week you then deal with air quality, indoor
Speaker 6: air quality. Next week you deal with food sensitivities, one
Speaker 6: at a time. That's why that title is so important.
Speaker 6: Just one hour a week to the best memory, productivity
Speaker 6: and sleep you've ever had.
Speaker 3: And I really like your series, Tom. You don't have
Speaker 3: just one person for the full forty five minutes or
Speaker 3: whatever time period it is. You have a number of experts,
Speaker 3: each bringing their expertise to the subject. So let's talk
Speaker 3: a little bit about the American diet and the over
Speaker 3: use of gluten products and the problem with gluten. Let's
Speaker 3: start there, Tom, Well, what is the issue? And I'm
Speaker 3: going to focus on the American side of it, but
Speaker 3: it can be pretty much anywhere universally, except that we
Speaker 3: don't see it in the same way that we see
Speaker 3: it in the United States. What is it about bread
Speaker 3: and gluten products that is such an issue with our health?
Speaker 6: Really good question. We have the same body as our
Speaker 6: ancestors thousands and thousands of years ago. The same kid
Speaker 6: needs the same gallbladder, the same immune system. Our body
Speaker 6: is worth the same. We've got more creature comfort than
Speaker 6: ever before safety, but our bodies are the same ten
Speaker 6: thousand years ago. Agriculture developed before that, which is only
Speaker 6: a blip on the screen ten thousand years But before agriculture,
Speaker 6: everyone were nomads. They followed the herds. They were always
Speaker 6: looking for food. That was their number one concern, then safety,
Speaker 6: then reproduction, but always food. If they found something, they'd
Speaker 6: pick it up first they smell it, then they nibble
Speaker 6: at it, and then they eat it. We have sentries
Speaker 6: standing guard in the first part of the small intestine,
Speaker 6: So any food that comes out of the stomach into
Speaker 6: the small intestine, those sentries. I think of the soldiers
Speaker 6: at Buckingham Palace with those big hats. You know, they're
Speaker 6: as dormant as can be. They're not moving, they're not
Speaker 6: doing anything. But don't mess with those guys. Do not
Speaker 6: mess with those guys. In the first part of our
Speaker 6: small intestine. We have sentries standing guard in the immune system.
Speaker 6: They're called toll like receptors. It doesn't matter what they're called.
Speaker 6: Just think of the soldiers at Buckingham Palace. They're watching
Speaker 6: everything that comes out of the stomach into the intestines
Speaker 6: because once it's in the intestines, it gets absorbed into
Speaker 6: the body, and so they're screening every morsel. If they
Speaker 6: see a bug, two things happen immediately. One, you get
Speaker 6: leaki gut. Why because opening the cell a little bit
Speaker 6: allows water from the body to leak into the intestines
Speaker 6: and it washes out the bug with the poop. Leaki
Speaker 6: gut is not bad for you. Excessive leaky gut is
Speaker 6: bad for you, but leaki gut saves your life. It
Speaker 6: saved our ancestors life. I said, there were two things.
Speaker 6: That's the first. The second thing that happens is that
Speaker 6: it activates the Century activates the major amplifier of inflammation
Speaker 6: in the gut, actually in the body. It's called nf kappaB.
Speaker 6: It's another geek term, doesn't matter, but nf kappaB is
Speaker 6: the desk sergeant at the police station. You guys, you
Speaker 6: go over here and take care of this area. You guys,
Speaker 6: you're in that neighborhood today. You guys, you're over here.
Speaker 6: So when the Centuries sends a bug, they increase water
Speaker 6: coming into the intestine to wash the bug out, and
Speaker 6: they increase inflammation to kill the bug. All of this
Speaker 6: happens within five minutes. If you're a geek like me,
Speaker 6: when you watch the videos, it's very cool to see,
Speaker 6: you know how it happens within five minutes. Okay, so
Speaker 6: all of that background, now, Well, for those ancestors that
Speaker 6: didn't have good toll like receptor function, they died. The
Speaker 6: bugs and the food killed them. They did not reproduce
Speaker 6: everyone who's here today. Our ancestors had successful immune systems
Speaker 6: protecting them from the occasional bug that they got exposed
Speaker 6: to that did not kill them. Right, So we all
Speaker 6: carry this same mechanism. It's a life saving mechanism. We
Speaker 6: all have this. So that's the background to answer your question.
Speaker 6: The century standing guard now Alessio Ficano is a professor
Speaker 6: of medicine Harvard Medical School, a professor of nutrition, Harvard
Speaker 6: School of Public Health, the chief of pediatric gas Entrology
Speaker 6: at Mass General at Harvard, the director of the Celiac
Speaker 6: Research Center at Harvard, and the Director of mucosal Immunology
Speaker 6: at Harvard. This guy's got five titles that any one
Speaker 6: title is a lifelong dream for someone at the top
Speaker 6: of their game. In other words, he's very credible, top
Speaker 6: of the field, top of the field. He wrote a
Speaker 6: paper where there's over three hundred papers with his name
Speaker 6: on them. But there's a team of people that work
Speaker 6: underneath him doing most of that lab work. But the
Speaker 6: last one is always Alessio Ficano. That's the stamp of approval.
Speaker 6: He's always careful about what he says so that he's
Speaker 6: not misquoted. We think he's going to win the Nobel
Speaker 6: Prize because He and his team identified the mechanism behind
Speaker 6: leaky gut twenty five years ago and they've been writing
Speaker 6: about it ever since. This paper he wrote himself, So
Speaker 6: I wanted to give you the background as to how
Speaker 6: credible this guy is. And there are not many people
Speaker 6: like him in the world. This paper he wrote himself
Speaker 6: because it's so important his messaging. All disease begins in
Speaker 6: the leaky gut. The role of znuline, that's the protein
Speaker 6: that opens up the leaky gut, The role of zoguline
Speaker 6: in the development of chronic inflammatory diseases. All disease begins
Speaker 6: in the leaky god. And he explains that the two
Speaker 6: most powerful triggers to activate leaky god are bad bacteria
Speaker 6: called LPs. It's the armor of bad bacteria, gram negative
Speaker 6: bacteria and gluta. Those are the two most powerful triggers.
Speaker 6: Now why does he say that, Because the way toll
Speaker 6: like receptors the century standing guard, the way that they work.
Speaker 6: They're watching all the food coming down. What are they
Speaker 6: looking at. They're looking at the protein structure of the food.
Speaker 6: If they see something that looks like a bug, they
Speaker 6: get at it within five minutes kill the bug. The
Speaker 6: problem is gluten is misinterpreted as a harmful component of
Speaker 6: a bug. The amino acid structure of these poorly digested
Speaker 6: peptides of wheat look like the outer shell of a bug,
Speaker 6: very very similar. And so your toll like receptors are
Speaker 6: never going to lax off. They're there to protect you
Speaker 6: and save your life. When they see a bug, they
Speaker 6: get activated. So every human has this reaction in their
Speaker 6: gut when they eat wheat, whether they feel sick or not.
Speaker 6: All disease begins in the leaky gut. And you read
Speaker 6: Pisano's paper and you go, my god, this just makes sense.
Speaker 6: This really makes sense. But that's why wheat and gluten
Speaker 6: is such a problem is because the amino acid structure
Speaker 6: looks just like the protective armor on a bug.
Speaker 3: Wow. You know, if we know this, why isn't this
Speaker 3: being handed down to our physicians and healthcare providers to
Speaker 3: have people maybe pull back and reduce their intake of
Speaker 3: gluten products in gluten.
Speaker 6: It's really good question. You know. I spent twenty five
Speaker 6: years in Chicago. My practice was in Chicago, and so
Speaker 6: when Second City began there, so in the immortal words
Speaker 6: of Roseanne Rosanna Dana, you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: I mean, really, can I just read the science. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's so clear. And I've often been referred to by
Speaker 6: those that don't like to listen to this that I'm
Speaker 6: a fanatic and I think everyone should give up wheat. No,
Speaker 6: everyone should check and see if their immune system is
Speaker 6: fighting wheat if you've crossed the line of tolerance. We
Speaker 6: all get a little bit of annoying stuff in our
Speaker 6: diet every day, and there's some tolerance to that. But
Speaker 6: when you cross the line of tolerance and your immune
Speaker 6: system starts making antibodies to wheat. And this is why
Speaker 6: there are so many different conditions that people get well
Speaker 6: from when they go gluten free, is because the antibodies
Speaker 6: to wheat well what's called molecular mimicry. The antibodies are
Speaker 6: in the bloodstream looking for wheat to kill it wherever
Speaker 6: they see it. And some of our tissue looks like
Speaker 6: the amino acid structure of gluten.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: So your immune system in a genetically sensitive person will
Speaker 6: attack your thyroid. In somebody else, it'll attack your brain.
Speaker 6: In somebody else, it attacks her joints. That's why you've
Speaker 6: got friends when they went gluten free, they lost weight,
Speaker 6: they were warmer all the time, they're thyroids working better.
Speaker 6: When the hashimotives goes away, the antibodies go down to hashimotives.
Speaker 6: Or someone else with rheumatoid their pain's gone or greatly reduced.
Speaker 6: Or someone's had two miscarriages, now they have a healthy
Speaker 6: pregnancy and delivery. I mean, the list goes on and
Speaker 6: on and on.
Speaker 3: Let me just ask you real quick, Tom, are you
Speaker 3: suggesting that as a primary detecting scenario, somebody should have
Speaker 3: a test, a blood test to determine if they're sensitive
Speaker 3: to gluten?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? Absolutely. If you have a health concern, you've tried
Speaker 6: to be healthier and you come up against a roadblock,
Speaker 6: you know, I call it the emergency breakes. You back
Speaker 6: out of a driveway.
Speaker 3: And you say, what's wrong with this car?
Speaker 6: It's moving but not very well. The emergency break, and
Speaker 6: let go the emergency break and you back up just fine.
Speaker 6: When you're trying to be healthier and there's some emergency
Speaker 6: breaks going on and you don't know what they are,
Speaker 6: the first thing you should do is do the right test.
Speaker 6: It has to be the right test to look and
Speaker 6: see is my immune system fighting wheat? I have elevated
Speaker 6: antibodies to wheat. And the test is called the wheat
Speaker 6: zoomer because you zoom in on the problem. It's the
Speaker 6: most Now I've not been lecturing in the Far East,
Speaker 6: but South America, Central America, North America, Europe, India. I
Speaker 6: lecture all over the world, and I look at the
Speaker 6: laboratories that have their booths set up for the doctors
Speaker 6: to stop by. No one has as comprehensive or as
Speaker 6: accurate as test as the wheat zoomer. And I tell
Speaker 6: patients all the time, just go on my website, the
Speaker 6: dr dot com, thedoctor dot com. Just go on my website,
Speaker 6: download the information on the wheat zoomer, take it to
Speaker 6: your doctor and ask him to order the test. He
Speaker 6: probably will say no because he has no idea what
Speaker 6: it is, because he's never heard of this before. But
Speaker 6: more open doctors will And if he won't order, you
Speaker 6: can order it on my site.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: But when you do the and it's a fingerprick, oh
Speaker 6: it's not.
Speaker 3: Oh you don't need a lot of blood. You don't.
Speaker 6: Now, let me give you this one. In the journal
Speaker 6: gas re Entrology, very reputable journal, they published a paper
Speaker 6: that fifty percent of children with drug resistant epilepsy, which
Speaker 6: means they've tried at least three drugs and they're not working.
Speaker 6: Your child still having seizures. Fifty percent of these children
Speaker 6: going to complete remission on a gluten free dye. Wow,
Speaker 6: this is like, what what? How come my neurologists didn't
Speaker 6: tell me this? Yeah, because neurologists do not read gastor
Speaker 6: enturology journals. They read neurology journals. They don't know. They
Speaker 6: just don't know.
Speaker 3: So you have to be an aware parent when you're
Speaker 3: dealing with your doctor or whatever HMO program you're dealing with.
Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 3: with my guest today, doctor Tom O'Brien discussing his latest documentary,
Speaker 3: The Inflammation Equation. Will be right back. My guest today
Speaker 3: is doctor Tom O'Brien, who believes the American healthcare system
Speaker 3: is broken, and he has come up with a new
Speaker 3: documentary called The Inflammation Equation. How inflammation is ricking havoc
Speaker 3: with our health? Tom, give us an example or some
Speaker 3: examples of chronic illnesses that are inflammation based and are
Speaker 3: perhaps triggered from this gluten situation.
Speaker 6: Really great question, really great question. So the Center for
Speaker 6: Disease Control the CDC tells us that fourteen of the
Speaker 6: fifteen top causes of death are chronic inflammatory disease. It's
Speaker 6: always inflammation, always, without exception, unless unintentional injuries an accident.
Speaker 6: That's the only one of the top fifteen. It doesn't
Speaker 6: matter if it's Alzheimer's or diabetes, or cardiovascular disease, or
Speaker 6: major depressive disorder or schizophrenia, it doesn't matter what it is.
Speaker 6: They're all chronic inflammatory diseases, which by definition means while
Speaker 6: you feel fine, there's this inflammation under the surface in
Speaker 6: your bloodstream, circulating through your bloodstream everywhere you feel okay.
Speaker 6: You know, you can't tell that there's nothing going on.
Speaker 6: But if you pull it a chain, it always breaks it.
Speaker 6: The weakest link, always one end, the middle, the other end.
Speaker 6: It's your heart, your brain, your liver, your kidneys, wherever
Speaker 6: your weak link is. If you pull the chain too hard,
Speaker 6: that's where the symptoms are going to come. Well, what's
Speaker 6: the pull on the chain. The pull on the chain
Speaker 6: is inflammation always, so it doesn't matter what the disease is.
Speaker 6: When you understand that concept, it becomes a priority in
Speaker 6: your efforts to be healthier. To ask the question, am
Speaker 6: I fueling inflammation in my body right now? And if so,
Speaker 6: how am I doing it? Is it mold that I'm
Speaker 6: breathing twenty four to seven in the house? Missus patient?
Speaker 6: If you go on holiday for a week or two
Speaker 6: and you come home, doyell, do you have to open
Speaker 6: the windows to air the house out?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's mold. That's mold. So is it mold? Is
Speaker 6: it accumulated toxic chemicals in your body? As I gave
Speaker 6: the example earlier about plastic containers, is it heavy metals?
Speaker 6: Is it too much arsenic? The number one toxinic coin
Speaker 6: to the CDC is arsenic heavily in rice. When you
Speaker 6: eat rice, Very likely now you're getting arsenic, even organic rice,
Speaker 6: because organic rice still grows in the water in the fields,
Speaker 6: and water in the fields because rice grows in rice
Speaker 6: paddies a little bit of water, and rice sucks up
Speaker 6: the arsenic. But the water comes from the rivers, and
Speaker 6: the rivers just downstream. Farmers have been spraying their fields
Speaker 6: for years and the rain comes and some of the
Speaker 6: chemicals wash into the aquifer and they go down into
Speaker 6: the river, and then you take the water from the
Speaker 6: river to get the water for the rice fields. So
Speaker 6: that water is high in arsenic, and even organic rice,
Speaker 6: it sucks up the arsenic more than most other plants.
Speaker 6: And so if you're eating rice regularly, you probably have
Speaker 6: accumulated arsenic. You just have to test to see. But
Speaker 6: whatever the trigger is, is it foods, is it mold?
Speaker 6: Is it accumulated toxic metals, organophosphates, toxic emotional relationships, way
Speaker 6: too much stress, hormones. You have to identify the triggers
Speaker 6: of inflammation to begin addressing whatever disease you've got. Let
Speaker 6: me give you one more analogy on this. We've all
Speaker 6: seen the cartoons of a snowball rolling down the mountain
Speaker 6: and as it's going down the mountain, usually changing chasing
Speaker 6: a character like bugs, bunny or somebody. But it's going
Speaker 6: down the mountain, it's getting bigger and bigger, going faster
Speaker 6: and faster. That's low grade inflammation in your body, pulling
Speaker 6: on the chain. And there's no way that you're going
Speaker 6: to get any medication that does this. It's not possible
Speaker 6: it's just not possible. What you have to do is
Speaker 6: taper the momentum of that downward trend and then start
Speaker 6: rolling uphill getting healthier. And the way you do this
Speaker 6: taper the momentum. I don't care what disease you've got.
Speaker 6: The way you taper the momentum is by identifying the
Speaker 6: environmental triggers that are giving you that low grade chronic
Speaker 6: inflammation and reducing those triggers. It's critically critically important. It's
Speaker 6: one oh one that our doctors were never taught. But
Speaker 6: when you look, when you look at the science, it's
Speaker 6: crystal clear, and no one can argue with this, absolutely
Speaker 6: no one, because it's just basic science. And now we
Speaker 6: have leading scientists all over the world talking about this.
Speaker 6: You're hearing more and more about inflammation and inflammation and inflammation. Yes,
Speaker 6: it's critically important, but my goal is to give people
Speaker 6: the big picture of how to hold this and then
Speaker 6: how do you begin addressing it because it's overwhelming when
Speaker 6: you look at all of the environmental triggers that may
Speaker 6: be involved. The rule is in God, we trust all
Speaker 6: others require data, meaning tests don't guess, and you have
Speaker 6: to do the right tests. You have to know what
Speaker 6: kind of tests to do, right. But when you do that, Wow,
Speaker 6: I didn't know that. I've got lead toxicity. Wow. Look
Speaker 6: at all the glyphis eight. You know, Glyphis eight is
Speaker 6: four times higher in concentration in the semen of men
Speaker 6: than in their blood. It accumulates in the test that goes,
Speaker 6: and it accumulates in the ovaries. It's a toxic and
Speaker 6: your immune system says, what's that that's not supposed to
Speaker 6: be there. I better fight that. Now you make antibodies
Speaker 6: to glyphis eight, creating a whole lot of inflammation. Now
Speaker 6: you've got a low sperm count.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom, let's talk real quickly about I bought some
Speaker 3: of the inflammation related disease processes that we can address
Speaker 3: through identifying the problem. So we know about rheumatoid arthritis.
Speaker 3: We know about obviously.
Speaker 6: May I give you the example of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 3: Please, no, he did.
Speaker 6: This is really good because everybody's terrified of Alzheimer's, and
Speaker 6: you should be. In twenty eighteen, most newspapers in the country,
Speaker 6: they front page. Medicare to go bankrupt within twenty five
Speaker 6: years because of Alzheimer's. I don't know if you remember that,
Speaker 6: but it was a big deal for a few days
Speaker 6: and then there's some news story. But as a result
Speaker 6: of that, the government brought in world class scientists, everyone
Speaker 6: that they could get in there to figure out what
Speaker 6: are we going to do because Medicare is going to
Speaker 6: go bankrupt? What are we going to do here? And
Speaker 6: they took two years to put together their report, and
Speaker 6: the report had a graph in it, and the graph
Speaker 6: was it's just gold once you understand the graph, because
Speaker 6: if you understand the graph, you now understand the mechanism
Speaker 6: of Alzheimer's. So they what they identified is that there
Speaker 6: is what's called a prodromal period. That means before symptoms,
Speaker 6: there is a prodromal period of brain inflammation, killing off
Speaker 6: brain cells, killing off brain cells, killing off brain cells
Speaker 6: for twenty to twenty five years, and you have no
Speaker 6: symptoms whatsoever, but you're killing off brain cells, killing off
Speaker 6: brain cells, killing off braink twenty four to seven because
Speaker 6: of this low grade inflammation. And the weak link in
Speaker 6: your chain is your brain. For those people, Yeah, so
Speaker 6: you've got twenty to twenty five years. Then you have
Speaker 6: they say about seven years of mild cognitive dysfunction. That
Speaker 6: means you walk into the parking lot, where did I
Speaker 6: park my car? Or where are my keys? That's not stress,
Speaker 6: that's loss of memory, mild cognitive dysfunction. But we write
Speaker 6: it off. I'm just too stressed today, I'm getting older.
Speaker 6: I'm just too stressed. I don't remember the way I
Speaker 6: used to holler. Are I'm thirty six? No, No, that's
Speaker 6: not supposed to happen. That's not supposed to happen. So
Speaker 6: you've got twenty to twenty five years of the prodromal period,
Speaker 6: seven years of mild cognitive impairment before a diagnosis of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 6: Those too late, you're saying, No, no, it's not too late.
Speaker 6: But it's so much easier to address if you identified
Speaker 6: the inflammation killing off brain cells earlier. That's why every
Speaker 6: new patient I see, and I see one patient a
Speaker 6: week online, you know, because I don't have time because
Speaker 6: I'm teaching all the time. But I like to take
Speaker 6: one patient once in a while, only really difficult ones.
Speaker 6: But every patient that I'm going to see or talk to,
Speaker 6: they do the neural Zoomer plus and once again finger
Speaker 6: prick tests, very accurate, very sensitive. It looks at fifty
Speaker 6: three markers of inflammation in the brain fifty three and
Speaker 6: we have never had a normal comeback on a first visit,
Speaker 6: no one, because of the air we're breathing, the food
Speaker 6: we're eating. And it better come back normal or close
Speaker 6: to normal six months or a year later. If you've
Speaker 6: been doing our programs, you know whatever you need and
Speaker 6: what's the program. You have to identify how you're pulling
Speaker 6: on the chain where the environmental triggers causing the inflammation
Speaker 6: that's pulling on the chain of your weak link, which
Speaker 6: is your brain. So that mechanism of inflammation is what
Speaker 6: takes everyone down. Every chronic disease is a disease of
Speaker 6: low grade chronic inflammation for many, many years while you
Speaker 6: feel fine, and then eventually some symptoms come. So what
Speaker 6: I teach doctors is, of course you have to address
Speaker 6: the symptoms. Of course you have to help them feel
Speaker 6: better or they're not coming back right. But you've got
Speaker 6: to educate them at the same time to identify the
Speaker 6: triggers of inflammation. If you want to stop this snowball
Speaker 6: and move up towards higher levels of health. I propose
Speaker 6: that the goal for every person that comes to see me,
Speaker 6: and I suggest this and then everyone embraces it is
Speaker 6: that there is about For men, it's twenty percent, for
Speaker 6: women it's twenty one point four percent of their lives
Speaker 6: are with disability. There is a difference between total lifespan
Speaker 6: and healthy lifespan, and the difference for men is twenty
Speaker 6: point one percent and for women it's almost twenty four
Speaker 6: percent of their lives are with disability.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: A man's healthy lifespan ends at about sixty two, his
Speaker 6: total lifespan is about seventy eight. A women's healthy lifespan
Speaker 6: ends at about sixty two, sixty one to sixty two
Speaker 6: on average, her total lifespan is eighty three. So eighty
Speaker 6: three point five women live longer than men. Well, so
Speaker 6: about what means the last twenty one twenty two percent
Speaker 6: of their lives are with disabilities. They're on medications, they're
Speaker 6: in a wheelchair, they can't walk upstairs, they've got diabetes.
Speaker 6: You know, whatever it is, it's all the same. It's
Speaker 6: this life, low grade chronic inflammation for many, many, many years,
Speaker 6: killing off tissue, killing off tissue, killing off tissue. When
Speaker 6: you begin focusing one hour a week, because it's so overwhelming,
Speaker 6: when you get the test done, it's overwhelming to see
Speaker 6: how bad you are right now. But you allocate one
Speaker 6: hour a week and I can guarantee you in six months.
Speaker 6: You see someone at church or something you haven't seen
Speaker 6: in a while.
Speaker 3: My god, what happened to you?
Speaker 6: You look great?
Speaker 3: You look so young. What happened?
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll tell you. I got rid of the plastic,
Speaker 6: I got rid of the tupperware, you know, I got
Speaker 6: glass containers. I got rid of my nail polish. I
Speaker 6: have pallate free organic nail polish now. I changed my matenups,
Speaker 6: I changed my shampoo. We don't use that dishwashing detergent anymore,
Speaker 6: and we only run our dishwasher at night when people
Speaker 6: are sleeping. I've learned all of these things that I
Speaker 6: didn't know were giving me, these little bits of accumulated
Speaker 6: toxins in my bow that have been accumulating for so
Speaker 6: many years. So my snowball was going downhill so fast
Speaker 6: it was manifesting in my joints. But within six months,
Speaker 6: I'm feeling much much better now, and I'm walking three
Speaker 6: miles a day. That's a very common scenario when you
Speaker 6: get educated enough and stop looking for the quick fix,
Speaker 6: stop biohacking, stop it. Excuse me, but stop biohacking until
Speaker 6: you identify your environmental triggers us get both out of
Speaker 6: your diet.
Speaker 3: A good suggestion. You created the Inflammation Equation. It's a
Speaker 3: nine part series that we'll give our listeners the link
Speaker 3: to listen to sign up for. But are we not
Speaker 3: testing enough for inflammation when we go to our doctor?
Speaker 6: Not at all, not at all. The tests that are
Speaker 6: done rarely, but if you ask, they'll do it is
Speaker 6: called the most common test is called HS for high sensitivity.
Speaker 6: See our ce reactive protein. Okay, that's a really good
Speaker 6: test to look at large levels of inflammation in your body,
Speaker 6: but it's not looking at the low grade chronic inflammation
Speaker 6: that's there for years. CRP will be normal, but your
Speaker 6: low grade chronic inflammation markers will be sky high.
Speaker 3: So do we ask our doctors to give us this test?
Speaker 6: Or do they yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure you can.
Speaker 6: That's the goal. And when you go talk to them
Speaker 6: about it, if you watch the Inflammation Equation, you know
Speaker 6: what kind of questions ask And every day of the
Speaker 6: nine days of this we say, and you would have
Speaker 6: experienced this clip I say in every episode, go back
Speaker 6: to your doctor. The healthcare practitioner that recommended this to
Speaker 6: you and ask them, what are my markers of inflammation
Speaker 6: right now? For low grade chronic inflammation? How do I
Speaker 6: begin this? Doctor? What do I do? You know? So
Speaker 6: we give you the question and we have workbooks every day,
Speaker 6: you know, think about this. You know, we ask some
Speaker 6: questions that are from answered in each episode, and so
Speaker 6: you download the workbook first and then you say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: bullet point, that's oh yeah, that's an important one because
Speaker 6: there's so much. You're often hypnotized by the depth of
Speaker 6: knowledge that these world experts are giving you, and you know,
Speaker 6: it's hard to remember all of it. So we give
Speaker 6: you work books and all of that so that you
Speaker 6: can sound coherent when you go to your doctor and
Speaker 6: ask for these tests.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're asking people to take their healthcare back and
Speaker 3: to do a little due diligence and to perhaps research
Speaker 3: through the coursework, develop an understanding of perhaps what is
Speaker 3: affecting them individually. Why is it that we have a
Speaker 3: medical and I'm talking about the United States right now
Speaker 3: that tends to band aid conditions with pharmaceuticals when they
Speaker 3: don't really know what the core issue might be.
Speaker 6: It's the training it's the training these doctors all. I
Speaker 6: shouldn't say all, but I would wager they all went
Speaker 6: into medicine to help people, to really help people be healthier.
Speaker 6: Some people maybe said, I want to be a cardiovascular surgeon,
Speaker 6: you know, I want to put new pipes in, you know,
Speaker 6: bypass surgeries. But most doctors have pure intent, but the
Speaker 6: system just beats them down. We've all heard the stories
Speaker 6: of these twenty four hour shifts, thirty six hour shifts.
Speaker 6: We see the TV shows where they're going into a room,
Speaker 6: turning off the lights and then the nurse comes in
Speaker 6: to wakem because they have to go do surgery, you know,
Speaker 6: but they're trying to get some sleep. That's the kind
Speaker 6: of training that all of our doctors went through that
Speaker 6: beats it into them that the goal here is to
Speaker 6: deal with the symptoms identified as quickly as you can,
Speaker 6: and deal with the symptoms. You know. A book came
Speaker 6: out just recently. I'm sorry, I'm not remembering the name
Speaker 6: of the book, and I'm not political here, and I've
Speaker 6: never watched the show before, but a friend told me
Speaker 6: that Tucker Carlson did an interview with a Brother Sister team,
Speaker 6: and so CALLI means Carrie and Kelly means. And she
Speaker 6: was in her fifth year of her surgical residency at
Speaker 6: Stanford ear Nose and Throat, and she specialized in one
Speaker 6: little canal in the ear. That's all she did all day,
Speaker 6: every day, and was very very good, developing a world reputation,
Speaker 6: number of published studies and all that. He is an
Speaker 6: MBA from Harvard that went to work for the pharmaceutical industry.
Speaker 6: She quit in her fifth year of her surgical residency.
Speaker 6: He quit from working for the pharmaceutic industry because they
Speaker 6: just couldn't stand it anymore. They knew this is not healthcare.
Speaker 6: And when you watch that interview or read their book,
Speaker 6: CALLI and carry means. I'm sorry, I'm not remembering the
Speaker 6: name of the book, but they say there are trainings
Speaker 6: on this. The most profitable patient for a pharmaceutical industry
Speaker 6: is a sick child and you keep them on meds
Speaker 6: for their life. I mean, this is horrible stuff.
Speaker 3: That's the training you're saying, that's the training that these
Speaker 3: guys get.
Speaker 6: That the pharmaceutical industry gets. Oh the pharmaceuticals Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: And CALLI as your nose and throat surgeon. She really
Speaker 6: wanted to talk to people about how to prevent all
Speaker 6: of this from happening, because she had learned, you know,
Speaker 6: you got a dare sensitivity, you got mucus all the time,
Speaker 6: you get sinus infections, and eventually you get surgery for it.
Speaker 6: It doesn't fix anything because you're still eating the dairy,
Speaker 6: you know. So she got very frustrated. They both quit
Speaker 6: their jobs to carry a different message out to the world.
Speaker 6: They'd be great on your show, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have to look them up. We don't have
Speaker 3: the time that we need to talk about the diet.
Speaker 3: But can you just touch on the importance of watching
Speaker 3: what you eat. And because of the grains being hybrid
Speaker 3: and highbrids, they're not the original grains. These grains are
Speaker 3: mucus producing elements. And eating gluten like crackers and breads
Speaker 3: and cookies and pastries, that's a it's a real problem. Now,
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about our diet and why it's
Speaker 3: such a critical issue to keep an eye on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you'll hear advocates for the vegetarian diet, for
Speaker 6: the vegan diet, for the ketogenic diet, for the paleo diet.
Speaker 6: You'll hear the gluten free diet. You'll hear lots of
Speaker 6: discussions and it spins your head because they all talk
Speaker 6: about the great success of that particular approach of eating.
Speaker 6: Because you can find people that did very well on
Speaker 6: any of those diets and you use those as your
Speaker 6: case examples. So if someone has seizures, it makes sense
Speaker 6: you might want to consider a ketogenic diet. There's lots
Speaker 6: of good science as to how it helps change the
Speaker 6: chemistry and the brain. But you don't live the rest
Speaker 6: of your life there, but for a while it can
Speaker 6: be a therapeutic approach. A vegetarian diet can be a
Speaker 6: therapeutic approach, but you don't just start all right, I'm
Speaker 6: vegetarian today. Well, wait a minute, you've had thirty four
Speaker 6: years of eating meat. You're just going to stop and
Speaker 6: wan day? How about if you transition over a month
Speaker 6: or two, you know, make it a little easier on
Speaker 6: your body to get used to this. Right, So, there
Speaker 6: are many different diets that have their advocates can't say
Speaker 6: anything challenging because for some people that particular approach will work.
Speaker 6: There is one diet that the Italian's published on three
Speaker 6: years ago that works for everybody. As far as we
Speaker 6: can tell, and it's the Mediterranean glutant free diet, and
Speaker 6: that one is remarkable as a maintenance diet. So just
Speaker 6: google Mediterranean gluten free diet and the paper comes up
Speaker 6: and you can download the paper and they've got the
Speaker 6: food pyramid in there that they put together. We all
Speaker 6: know about the food pyramid, but theirs is the only
Speaker 6: one that really makes sense. Why because what's at the
Speaker 6: bottom of the pyramid. What is the most deficient compound
Speaker 6: or nutrient in the human body? Water. We're all dehydrated,
Speaker 6: almost all of us, and so at the bottom of
Speaker 6: the pyramid is water. We should be doing a third
Speaker 6: of an ounce wait to go, yeah, drink a little.
Speaker 6: You should be doing a third third of an ounce
Speaker 6: per pound body weight. And if you're sweating a lot
Speaker 6: like saunas, you're doing saunas, which are a good thing,
Speaker 6: or you're exercising with a lot of sweat, it goes
Speaker 6: up to a half ounce per pound body weight every day.
Speaker 6: And people say, well, well, but I'll be peeing all
Speaker 6: day long. Well, that's the idea is to flesh out
Speaker 6: the toxins that have accumulated in your body over a
Speaker 6: lifetime of not realizing you were accumulating toxins. You got
Speaker 6: to get them out of there. And the first and
Speaker 6: most important component of detox programs is to be hydrated
Speaker 6: well enough. When you're not hydrated, you've got a four
Speaker 6: lane highway, but the flashing lights up head. Now it
Speaker 6: is tapering down to three lanes, now two lanes. So
Speaker 6: your four lane highway where you're doing seventy miles an hour,
Speaker 6: is now two lanes, and you're doing thirty five or forty. Right,
Speaker 6: that's constipation and everything just backs up. And if you
Speaker 6: got acne, if you've got brain fog, there are so
Speaker 6: many different symptoms that might be because of the dehydration.
Speaker 6: So the bottom of the pyramid's dehydration. Well, what about
Speaker 6: all those gluten free foods. They're gluten free, they're healthy
Speaker 6: for me. No, they're not. They're just white paste. They're
Speaker 6: not healthy foods. Gluten free foods are at the very
Speaker 6: top of the pyramid. Not too much, not very often.
Speaker 6: You have gluten free bread or gluten free cookies once
Speaker 6: in a while, who cares, as long as it's gluten free.
Speaker 6: But most of us substitute our regular wheat and our
Speaker 6: regular pastries with gluten free breads and gluten free pastries
Speaker 6: keeps you sick. You can't do that. I have a
Speaker 6: whole talk on that called the Fallacy of the Gluten
Speaker 6: Free Diet.
Speaker 3: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 3: with our biohacking series, The Inflammation Equation. With our guests today,
Speaker 3: doctor Tom O'Brien, We will return shortly. My guess today
Speaker 3: is doctor Tom O'Bryant, who has developed a new documentary
Speaker 3: called The Inflammation Equation, and it basically targets how we
Speaker 3: are hurting ourselves with our diet, with our lifestyle, and
Speaker 3: how we can improve these areas for better health. Let
Speaker 3: me just stop you real quick, Tom, because the Mediterranean,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think of Italian as French bread pasta,
Speaker 3: which is wheat based, and you know, perhaps you know
Speaker 3: fresh fish, vegetables, fresh vegetables, but there's still a lot
Speaker 3: of gluten in that diet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And you know there are a number of
Speaker 6: confounding factors that make your sensitivity worse. And unfortunately the
Speaker 6: Italians have the same degree of increase and autoimmune diseases.
Speaker 6: Every autoimmune is as we do every autoimmune disease going
Speaker 6: up four to nine percent a year every year, every
Speaker 6: one of them. And the Italians are just as vulnerable
Speaker 6: with this as everybody else.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: So, and every restaurant, not not every, but almost every
Speaker 6: restaurant now has gluten free pastas. If you want pasta
Speaker 6: and an Italian restaurant, you know they've got des auto
Speaker 6: They've got met a number of gluten free options. It's
Speaker 6: very easy to eat gluten free now in Italy.
Speaker 3: Wow. Hey, As we come to the conclusion of our
Speaker 3: time together, Tom, when someone's not well and they go
Speaker 3: to I'm talking about the United States right now, they
Speaker 3: go to the allopathic physician and how do how do
Speaker 3: they approach wellness? Number one and number two? We really
Speaker 3: do need to be our own best doctor in terms
Speaker 3: of finding a solution when we're not getting well.
Speaker 6: Yeah. The key is to get educated on basic principles,
Speaker 6: not what all the vitamins and minerals do, in which
Speaker 6: one's the best of all the vitamins and minerals. But
Speaker 6: the basic principles are first. That's why I spent thirteen
Speaker 6: months putting together the Inflammation Equation. So the title is
Speaker 6: the Inflammation Equation decoding the path to optimal well being.
Speaker 6: Once you understand the path to get healthier, once you
Speaker 6: understand how to taper that downward momentum, and you start
Speaker 6: applying these principles one hour a week, that's it, because
Speaker 6: it's too overwhelming to try to do it all at once.
Speaker 6: You notice in a few weeks your belts you have
Speaker 6: to pull. You build a notch tighter now because your
Speaker 6: waist is thinning down. You know your energy's up, you're
Speaker 6: sleeping better. You just start noticing things are changing. Once
Speaker 6: you've tested, you've identified where the major triggers of inflammation are.
Speaker 6: You address those majors first, then maybe some of the
Speaker 6: miners if necessary, but you would draw when you start
Speaker 6: a dressing those majors. It's the difference between most people
Speaker 6: have had this experience. You know, you light a charcoal
Speaker 6: fire and you you score some charcoal lighter flute on
Speaker 6: the coals. You light a match and throw it on there.
Speaker 6: But if the match goes out, if it doesn't catch,
Speaker 6: you light another match, you lay it on the coals.
Speaker 6: You can't squirt the charcoal lighter fluid on the flame.
Speaker 6: It'll drown the flame and it goes out. You have
Speaker 6: to squirt it on the charcoals and the spray will
Speaker 6: catch with the flame. Have you had that experience before? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: common experience. What would happen if you poured gasoline on
Speaker 6: those charcoals and then threw a match on it. Wosh,
Speaker 6: that's our lifestyle right now. And when you identify what
Speaker 6: the gasolines are in your lifestyle that you didn't know
Speaker 6: or else you wouldn't do it. But you didn't know.
Speaker 6: You've got mold, high levels of mold antibodies in your
Speaker 6: bloodstream right now, so you're fighting mold, or you've got
Speaker 6: heavy metal toxicity, or you've got a food sensitivity. You
Speaker 6: didn't know. But once you know, you start applying these
Speaker 6: principles one hour a week, and in six months you've
Speaker 6: nailed Well, I want it now. I want to feel
Speaker 6: better right now. Of course you do. You're an American.
Speaker 6: You want it right now.
Speaker 3: It takes time.
Speaker 6: You're right right now.
Speaker 3: It takes time to get healed, especially if you've been
Speaker 3: polluting your system for decades.
Speaker 6: You know that's exactactly right, exactly. It takes time, patience,
Speaker 6: and the theme of the inflammation equation is progress, not perfection.
Speaker 6: And what happens six months down the road, you have
Speaker 6: a new body. If you have patience and you allocate
Speaker 6: one hour a week and you have full compliance, you
Speaker 6: don't cheat. There's no such thing as cheat days with
Speaker 6: the gluten sensitivity. That's a bunch of garbage that some
Speaker 6: doctors are saying just to be nice, and I say
Speaker 6: to doct don't be nice, be kind, And what's the difference.
Speaker 6: Nice is not wanting to offend anybody. Kind is authenticity
Speaker 6: with compassion? Well, misses, patient, If you do choose to
Speaker 6: have an exposure to weed with your immune system, you
Speaker 6: will suffer from one exposure anywhere from two to four
Speaker 6: months from one exposure. And I explained why and how
Speaker 6: it happened. They go, WHOA, So no cheat days, No
Speaker 6: cheat days.
Speaker 3: Tom, give us the details on how to find the
Speaker 3: Inflammation Equation, what people can do to register, and more
Speaker 3: about how to contact your website.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you. Well, I think you've you've got the link.
Speaker 3: I have the link that I will post, but do
Speaker 3: you have the url the web address?
Speaker 6: The URL is the Inflammation Equation dot com dot com perfect, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: And it has an introductory.
Speaker 3: And then you can choose to get the nine part episode,
Speaker 3: nine part series.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's all free, It's all free. You know,
Speaker 6: the six minute introduction. It just captures you. Is you
Speaker 6: see my friend doctor Terry Walls, a neurologist who had
Speaker 6: debilitating MS. Now she rides her bicycle eighteen miles coupled
Speaker 6: three times a week. But and you see her starting
Speaker 6: to tear up as she talks about this. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: it's just remarkable to see. You see these people who
Speaker 6: were suffering so bad, this woman who had been to
Speaker 6: sixty different doctors, right and you and now she's fine,
Speaker 6: She's completely fine. She had to identify the gasolines on
Speaker 6: the fire that no one was looking for. And when
Speaker 6: she did, it didn't take but a few months, and
Speaker 6: she started to feel better and that she got her
Speaker 6: life back. So you see that day after day after
Speaker 6: day of the series with the experts explaining why this
Speaker 6: particular thing may be your environmental trigger or this one
Speaker 6: or this one, and we put it all together for
Speaker 6: you in a way so you walk away full absorbed
Speaker 6: with information, hard to remember it all, but understandable. The
Speaker 6: way I talk today, this is how I did the
Speaker 6: interviews with all of these geeks, these world famous scientists,
Speaker 6: and I said to them, say, professor, I may interrupt
Speaker 6: you in the middle of our conversation if there's something
Speaker 6: that might confuse somebody. So I'm interviewing Professor Yehuda Shanfeld
Speaker 6: in Tel Aviv, Israel, the godfather of autoimmunity, very formal man,
Speaker 6: very formal. And he speakers say excuse me, professor, professor,
Speaker 6: and he looked at me, and I said, you just
Speaker 6: said da da do? Does that mean data do? Well? Yes? Well,
Speaker 6: then wouldn't that mean for the listener, this is that well? Yes,
Speaker 6: exactly right.
Speaker 3: So you're helping clarify the material, which is fact.
Speaker 6: And I do that again and again so that everyone
Speaker 6: can understand what these scientists who've spent their lives studying
Speaker 6: this are trying to tell us.
Speaker 3: Is the docu series the next step from your book?
Speaker 3: You had a book called The Autoimmune Fix, But is
Speaker 3: this like the next level? Because you said, maybe you
Speaker 3: felt that the book wasn't getting out there enough to people,
Speaker 3: and you decided to put together this docu series. Talk
Speaker 3: about your inspiration behind it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, The Auto Mune Fix was the first book that
Speaker 6: won a National Book Award and get lots of kudos
Speaker 6: and it's in twelve languages. You can fix your brain.
Speaker 6: It was number one in seven categories on Amazon for
Speaker 6: brain function seizures and others like that, and that is
Speaker 6: now in nine languages. And what I've realized that, you know,
Speaker 6: all of the information in the world is great for people,
Speaker 6: but most of us are chasing our tail. We keep
Speaker 6: chasing how am I going to feel better? And it's
Speaker 6: the wrong question. It's it's the wrong direction, the proper direction.
Speaker 6: How am I going to extend my healthy lifespan closer
Speaker 6: to my total lifespan so I don't have all this
Speaker 6: disabilit these years of being disabled. How am I going
Speaker 6: to extend my healthy Maybe you extend your total lifespan,
Speaker 6: maybe not. I don't know. If you know you live longer,
Speaker 6: I don't know, but you certainly no question. Hundreds and
Speaker 6: hundreds of studies on extending healthy lifespan. With what I've
Speaker 6: explained here today about the snowball and tapering off the
Speaker 6: snowball by identifying the gasolines in your life that are
Speaker 6: fueling the fire of low grade chronic inflammation. That's the
Speaker 6: big kahuna. I was just speaking president of a college
Speaker 6: yesterday who has a few thousand graduates now out in
Speaker 6: medicine and they want me to come in and do
Speaker 6: this this concept, and they're asking, how would you do this?
Speaker 6: I mean, is this a course once a week, twice
Speaker 6: a week course? And you know, so we're strategizing on
Speaker 6: how to because he got it, he got it, he
Speaker 6: got the big said, oh my god, this just makes sense.
Speaker 6: This is just common sense. Why aren't we including this
Speaker 6: in our education? And at the Institute for Functional Medicine,
Speaker 6: we often have deans of medicine invited to come to
Speaker 6: our five day course and we give them scholarships to
Speaker 6: come in medicine, osteopathy, chiropractic, acupunctures, nature pass and we
Speaker 6: give them full scholarships to come for the five days.
Speaker 6: They all say the same thing, say this is incredible,
Speaker 6: this is true healthcare and it'll take us ten to
Speaker 6: twenty years to implement. We used to ask them why,
Speaker 6: but then it became really clear. The dean of medicine
Speaker 6: has to go back and tell the dean of gastorentrology
Speaker 6: at Harvard that what he's teaching is limited and he
Speaker 6: needs to expand and teach more comprehensive work. Well, the
Speaker 6: dean of gas struturology is the dean, that's his fiefdom,
Speaker 6: you know, And yeah, he's not going to do it,
Speaker 6: you know, so it takes him. And there's some papers
Speaker 6: that talk about that you don't change an educational system
Speaker 6: a medical system by trying to educate the educators. It's
Speaker 6: a generational thing as they die off and the younger
Speaker 6: generation has already absorbed this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a generational change. Hey, one last question. If
Speaker 3: you look at the evolution of where we're at right
Speaker 3: now in a perfect world, how long should we be living?
Speaker 3: What is what's a what's a time frame? If we
Speaker 3: can find these markers. If we're having a problem, we
Speaker 3: take care of it before it turns into cancer or
Speaker 3: m aser. If we're taking care of ourselfs tom, what
Speaker 3: should we be living too comfortably?
Speaker 6: Theoretically or realistically realistically?
Speaker 3: Because theoretical we get one or two percent that or
Speaker 3: less than one percent who can live beyond one hundred.
Speaker 3: But I'm just curious. Maybe you know, because you're not
Speaker 3: living in the United States, maybe that's a good thing,
Speaker 3: But I'm just curious.
Speaker 6: Theoretically, there's a number of studies that say somewhere around
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty. Really yeah, But realistically, because we're
Speaker 6: all breathing chemtrails, we all have arsenic in our rice,
Speaker 6: we all have toxins in the water that you're drinking
Speaker 6: all day every day, you know all that realistically, centenarians,
Speaker 6: there's a study that I talk about. They looked at
Speaker 6: seventy six centenarians, people over one hundred that were fully
Speaker 6: functional with no diagnosis, no medications, fully functional, and they
Speaker 6: compared them to people under forty who had had a
Speaker 6: heart attack, and then other people under forty who were healthy.
Speaker 6: So seventy six centenarians, one hundred and seventy eight people
Speaker 6: under forty that had a heart attack, and one hundred
Speaker 6: and seventy eight people under forty that were healthy. The
Speaker 6: one difference that they found every single centenarian had much
Speaker 6: lower levels of leaky got Remember F. Fasano said all
Speaker 6: disease begins in the leaky gut. They had much lower
Speaker 6: levels of leaki gout, and much lower levels of the
Speaker 6: armor from bad bacteria that gets into your circulation called lpslecuopolysaccharides,
Speaker 6: much lower levels of all of that. So, because most
Speaker 6: of us are going to be low on LPs and
Speaker 6: we're going to be high unless you do the work,
Speaker 6: follow our guidelines. You know, realistically, I think we can
Speaker 6: be fully functional. Our healthy lifespan can easily go into
Speaker 6: our mid to late eighties, maybe into our low nineties.
Speaker 6: I'm seventy two.
Speaker 3: Wow, you look great.
Speaker 6: My son, thank you. My son is four almost four.
Speaker 6: My goal is to shake it up on the dance
Speaker 6: floor at his wedding. So if he gets married around
Speaker 6: twenty eight, thirty years old, I'm going to be ninety seven.
Speaker 6: All right, that's my goal. Who knows, you know, who knows,
Speaker 6: But that's the goal.
Speaker 3: Doctor Tom O'Brien and the Inflammation Equation, it's been a
Speaker 3: pleasure speaking with you, and I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us here on Destiny.
Speaker 6: Thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 3: You know, again I mentioned this, it's very unfortunate that
Speaker 3: we can't go to our regular doctor or practitioner that
Speaker 3: we seek wellness advice from and get these kinds of
Speaker 3: tips on how to live more healthily and avoid over
Speaker 3: medication or pharmaceutical drugs all the time. It's really the
Speaker 3: challenge that we have, and so we need to take
Speaker 3: our best wellness into our own hands. And take the
Speaker 3: advice of our physicians, but think about other alternatives. Of course,
Speaker 3: as safe as possible. We don't want to get off
Speaker 3: of drugs that are maintaining our wellness, but drugs are
Speaker 3: a crutch and where we can, we need to eliminate
Speaker 3: them through better diet, exercise and biohacking with these new
Speaker 3: wonder drugs. So good to have doctor Tom O'Brien on
Speaker 3: the program and check out that documentary. You can see
Speaker 3: it the Information Equation. Just punch in the Information Equation.
Speaker 3: It's free and it is nine part series. Actually it's more.
Speaker 3: I think it's nine part and then there's extended additional
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Speaker 3: guest today, doctor Tom O'Brien, coming to us from Europe.
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