Speaker 1: Welcome to Dorky Out. My name is Sonya Mansfield, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was your truck. Smoke Joining me
Speaker 1: is my podcasting sister from Another mister and the co
Speaker 1: host of Dorky Out, Margo d Hello, my friend.
Speaker 2: Hello, my friend. Is it weird that I completely relate
Speaker 2: to one of the vampires.
Speaker 1: No, No, it is not weird. We are dorky Out
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty fives. That's right, a new movie we
Speaker 1: are talking about, Sinners, which is written and directed by
Speaker 1: Ryan Kogler. Yeah, just a little movie called Sinners that
Speaker 1: y'all have probably heard of. It stars Michael B. Jordan
Speaker 1: as Smoke and Stack, Haley Stanfield, Miles Canton, Jack O'Connell,
Speaker 1: Woomi Musaku, I look this up, Jamie Lawson, Omar Miller,
Speaker 1: y'ao Lee Young Lee, and Delroy Lindo. So good, he's
Speaker 1: always so good. I know you didn't see this in
Speaker 1: the theater. So we're gonna just when we're gonna talk spoilers.
Speaker 1: But I thought maybe before we go into spoilers and stuff,
Speaker 1: we could just say, like, so, what'd you think, Margo?
Speaker 2: I watched it three times in the last twenty four hours. Amazing,
Speaker 2: I know. And then I'm trying to nag a friend
Speaker 2: of mine into seeing it. She's like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to pay twenty dollars because I already it's I'm gonna
Speaker 2: wait till it's free. I'm like, no, you need to
Speaker 2: watch it now. I could talk about it with you.
Speaker 2: It's this movie's excellent and it's I'm so excited for
Speaker 2: Ryan Coogler. I'm so I'm so into it. I'm so
Speaker 2: happy for everybody that's in the movie. I think it's
Speaker 2: it's smart and it's interesting, and it's sexy and it's
Speaker 2: scary and it's just it's just an A plus.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this makes me so happy that you
Speaker 1: have watched it three times in the thirty more hours.
Speaker 2: Like I watched it and then I immediately and you
Speaker 2: were like, you have to stay to the end of
Speaker 2: the credits because I hadn't. I was going to go.
Speaker 2: I was going back to the beginning. So then I
Speaker 2: went back, and then I went back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I also I think I might have
Speaker 1: talked about it in one of the like what else
Speaker 1: you're doorking out about? But when I went to see
Speaker 1: it in the theater in Imax, and I was blown away,
Speaker 1: like just it looks awesome. Everyone is so good in it,
Speaker 1: like just everybody, and it's it's like, yes, there. It
Speaker 1: does remind me a little of like say, like from
Speaker 1: Dust Till Dawn or something like that, but it's telling
Speaker 1: a very different story.
Speaker 2: Using it's smarter than Dust and I like Dust Till
Speaker 2: don fine. It's a completely fine mid nineties independent Robert
Speaker 2: Rodriquez movie. It's great, Yeah, but this is a thousand
Speaker 2: times smarter. I mean what he's doing. And he's also
Speaker 2: Salem's Lot. There's a lot of different things that he's
Speaker 2: putting in here. But it's so smart and it's so
Speaker 2: interesting in the Americana of it. Yes, and I've been
Speaker 2: learning I'm going on TikTok and all these places and
Speaker 2: learning about all the Easter eggs and it's just.
Speaker 1: Oh, I need to do that now.
Speaker 2: Oh it's incredible. It's incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those movies that you can enjoy
Speaker 1: it on whatever level you want to enjoy it on.
Speaker 1: If you want to watch this and you're like, I
Speaker 1: like it because it's got monsters, then yeah, enjoy if
Speaker 1: you want to enjoy it. It is talking a lot
Speaker 1: about like racism, immigration, there's feminist things like all these
Speaker 1: things that you could get as deep as you want
Speaker 1: or not. It's up to you. And I think you
Speaker 1: will like it no matter what level you want to
Speaker 1: enjoy it. So that's our spoiler free so don't want
Speaker 1: to know spoilers. Come back later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go see the movie a few times and then come.
Speaker 1: Back, yes, exactly a few times. You you'll thank us
Speaker 1: later and now we can just.
Speaker 2: Did you watch it again? I did.
Speaker 1: I watched it again last night, and I was just
Speaker 1: I went ahead and bought it, Like I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this over and over and over. So
Speaker 1: I went ahead and paid the extra five bucks to
Speaker 1: have it, although I imagine I'll probably want to own
Speaker 1: it like a physical copy, but yeah, ahead, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I went and did this anyway. But it's been a
Speaker 1: huge hit. It boggles my mind that the budget is
Speaker 1: only ninety million dollars, Like, I mean, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of money, but like we're used to movies that have
Speaker 1: like three hundred million dollars or something, Right, it's already
Speaker 1: made a shit ton of money. Also, it's just one
Speaker 1: of those rare movies that's original it's not based on
Speaker 1: any ip. Yes, it's not a Marvel movie. It does.
Speaker 1: It's not based on a book. It's just totally original
Speaker 1: and it's so fucking good. So shall we let's go
Speaker 1: through it.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay. So it's nineteen thirty two. We're in the Mississippi Delta.
Speaker 1: And first it opens with like a young black man
Speaker 1: and that's Sammy, also known as Preacher Boy, and he's
Speaker 1: like walking into a church and he's got like a
Speaker 1: broken guitar neck and you know, everyone's in their little
Speaker 1: church and they're singing their songs and he comes in
Speaker 1: and he looks fucked up, like the broken guitar. He's
Speaker 1: got scratches all over, blood all over him. He's a mess.
Speaker 1: And his father is the preacher, and he begs him
Speaker 1: like drop the guitar, please leave behind your sinful ways,
Speaker 1: like come back to the church. And then we get
Speaker 1: a one day earlier, and that's when we meet Smoke
Speaker 1: and Stack. Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan, Nobody told me to be playing twins. It's suber pleasure,
Speaker 2: double the fun.
Speaker 1: Margo played this right, and that she went in trying
Speaker 1: not to know anything about the movie.
Speaker 2: I know it was him. I knew it was like
Speaker 2: one hundred years ago, and I heard the word vampire
Speaker 2: a couple of times. That's all I knew.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I think it's.
Speaker 2: A great way to do it because then it could
Speaker 2: just take it all in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And what do we think about Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan in this Oh Jesus, if he doesn't get nominated
Speaker 2: for an Oscar, it's gonna be it's a He's fantastic.
Speaker 1: He's fantastic. There are there are scenes where I forget
Speaker 1: that he's not two people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like especially.
Speaker 1: Things later in the movie where I was like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe this is the same person playing both these people,
Speaker 1: and they are. They are identical, but like they're and
Speaker 1: their personalities are similar but just different enough that you
Speaker 1: can tell them apart. And also he's just so handsome.
Speaker 1: He's so handsome, Like I think we talked about this
Speaker 1: when we did the movie Creed, Like he's just he's
Speaker 1: very charismatic. I think, yeah, so they are identical twins.
Speaker 1: They smoke and stack, they served, they went to war,
Speaker 1: they were in World War One, and then they went
Speaker 1: to Chicago, and the people keep saying that like they
Speaker 1: worked with al Capone and things like that, and they
Speaker 1: were working for the mob and they've got all this
Speaker 1: money now and they've come back to town and they're
Speaker 1: going to buy like an old mill or something and
Speaker 1: turn it into a juke joint, which if you don't
Speaker 1: know what that is, it's just a place where they
Speaker 1: play live music and there's food and drinks and.
Speaker 2: It's a club. It's a club and it's for dancing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna open up their club and they buy
Speaker 1: it from this like racist piece of shit who is
Speaker 1: like the Klan don't exist no more. It's like sure jan,
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, and they they know, they're really smart,
Speaker 1: they know that he's aligning piece of shit, and they
Speaker 1: tell him like we're buying this and if you come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna fuck you up, and you know, he splits.
Speaker 1: Then they go pick up Sammy and he's got his
Speaker 1: guitar and his father's begging him like, don't do this,
Speaker 1: don't go play blues music is super devil's music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the devil's music. Like you keep dancing for the devil.
Speaker 1: One day he's gonna follow you home.
Speaker 2: Do you know the story about Robert Johnson? No tell me, okay.
Speaker 2: So Robert Johnson was one of the first blues artists
Speaker 2: that recorded music. He was like one of the early
Speaker 2: early guitar heroes. And there's literally I think one, maybe
Speaker 2: two pictures of him that exist. He died when he
Speaker 2: was twenty seven, I believe, and he supposedly played the
Speaker 2: guitar but only played it okay, and he was very
Speaker 2: frustrated with his progress. And the rumor was he was
Speaker 2: from the Delta's from the South that he basically went
Speaker 2: into the woods or you know, went for a walk
Speaker 2: and then came back and then he could play better
Speaker 2: than anybody, and he had like a supernatural talent, like
Speaker 2: it was just better than anybody by farm. So the
Speaker 2: rumor was that he sold his soul to the devil, okay,
Speaker 2: and that's why he could play so well. So that's
Speaker 2: always kind of like the mythology around Robert Johnson. So
Speaker 2: they're completely doing that thing, okay. So there.
Speaker 1: I always just took it as he's naturally good at this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Robert Johnson probably just learned a few things,
Speaker 2: like just probably you know what I mean. But it
Speaker 2: was just it's it's just like what happens with history.
Speaker 2: You know, people get they passed down stories, they get
Speaker 2: more and more crazy. But the one about him was
Speaker 2: specifically what he wasn't very good and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden he was right better than everybody. So it
Speaker 2: must have been the devil.
Speaker 1: Do you think in this movie they're suggesting that Sammy
Speaker 1: made a deal with the devil?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think Sammy made a deal with the devil.
Speaker 1: No, because he is he's such a preacher boy.
Speaker 2: He is, he's a good kid. He's not going to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they pick up Sammy and they're all riding
Speaker 1: together and they they have to you know, split up
Speaker 1: to get everything ready for their duke joint. So Smoke
Speaker 1: goes into town where he and he's got like a
Speaker 1: truck filled with all their stuff for their juke joint.
Speaker 1: And I actually really think this scene is very it's
Speaker 1: very telling about them as who they. So Smoke goes
Speaker 1: to town, he's got the truck, and he calls this
Speaker 1: young girl over and asks her to like watch his
Speaker 1: truck while he he's going to go make some deals
Speaker 1: with some other people, and he teaches her how to negotiate.
Speaker 1: And I just thought it's like this nice touch like
Speaker 1: he doesn't just take from people, Like he could have
Speaker 1: just paid her a dime and said, like here, watched
Speaker 1: the truck or whatever, and instead he teaches her how
Speaker 1: to negotiate and I don't know, and the whole thing,
Speaker 1: like he goes in and he talks to the shop,
Speaker 1: the shopkeepers, these Chinese, this Chinese couple, Grace and Bow,
Speaker 1: who he uses as suppliers for his party. And again
Speaker 1: Grace like negotiates with him, and he comes out and
Speaker 1: he shoots the two guys are like trying to break
Speaker 1: into his truck and he shoots them like in the
Speaker 1: one in the ass and one in the leg, and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it's your truck. Smoke God had no idea.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. And the girls like I told them.
Speaker 1: But even after he shoots them, he then goes back
Speaker 1: in and pays the Chinese couple like they're gonna need
Speaker 1: medical attention, right, he doesn't. He doesn't want to fuck
Speaker 1: up like other black people. Basically, he's not looking. He
Speaker 1: probably fuck over a white man as he should, but
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do it to these guys. He's like, I
Speaker 1: taught you a lesson. Now I'm going to pray for
Speaker 1: you to get healthcare basically, Like, I think it's very telling. Also,
Speaker 1: I really like the the Chinese Shop cupp Shop Keybird couple.
Speaker 2: That's so that's also based on It was a documentary
Speaker 2: that came out like a couple of years ago. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you heard about this. No. It was
Speaker 2: a woman that's from the Delta, Mississippi Delta, and she's
Speaker 2: Chinese American and she was looking into like how the
Speaker 2: hell did we wind up here basically, And it was
Speaker 2: Chinese Americans that came to the States and they started
Speaker 2: working on the railroads, treated like crap and they you know,
Speaker 2: so they went to different cities and in the South
Speaker 2: because it was so bifurcated and so and the segregation
Speaker 2: was so intense that they could open a shop and
Speaker 2: they could have one for across the street for the
Speaker 2: black people and one for the white people, and nobody
Speaker 2: would give you would give them a hard time. They
Speaker 2: could just almost be invisible and just be able to
Speaker 2: go in these two different worlds. And it's fascinating to
Speaker 2: watch because she interviews her family and other people there,
Speaker 2: and it's it's wild to see for me seeing Asian
Speaker 2: faces with deep Southern accents. I mean it's it's I'm
Speaker 2: from New York. I'm just used to, you know, something different.
Speaker 2: But it makes total sense when you think about it, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like you don't have a bad reputation or
Speaker 2: I don't know anyway. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, I didn't pick up on they do have two
Speaker 1: stores like right.
Speaker 2: There, across the street from each other.
Speaker 1: I honestly I didn't even put it together that one was, yeah,
Speaker 1: white people, and one was for black people.
Speaker 2: Right, and the one for black people is more like
Speaker 2: the you know, here are you know, the fruits and
Speaker 2: the vegetables and all the shit you need right now,
Speaker 2: and the one across the street for the white people,
Speaker 2: it's like, here are Linen's, here are flowers, Here are
Speaker 2: baked goods if you need something. So it's just different.
Speaker 2: So they're they're they're appealing to their customer base.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm already like I need to watch it again.
Speaker 2: I need to watch Yeah, there's there's so much. I
Speaker 2: know there's And this is Ryan Coogler. He uh, he
Speaker 2: had a family member that was from the region, and
Speaker 2: he did a twenty three and me or did a
Speaker 2: DNA thing and found out he had a lot of
Speaker 2: Chinese in him and had was like, where the hell
Speaker 2: did this custo from? So interest that's when they started
Speaker 2: looking into it, and then they also found that documentary
Speaker 2: and they're all realized like, oh, there's like this whole
Speaker 2: history of Asian people, specifically Chinese Americans that found their
Speaker 2: way and it was usually retail.
Speaker 1: Huh right, yeah, oh my god, I didn't know any
Speaker 1: of this. Marco, You're teaching me things.
Speaker 2: This is what I love about movies, This is what
Speaker 2: I love about pop cultures. Yes, you know, you can
Speaker 2: use facts to tell your story and it all you know,
Speaker 2: history is always teaching us.
Speaker 1: It is always teaching us. Pay attention, everybody. Uh So
Speaker 1: then we cut back to Stack and he's with Sammy
Speaker 1: and they're they're going to the train station and they're
Speaker 1: going to recruit Delta Slim, which is Delroy Lindo. But
Speaker 1: on the way there, like Stack is teaching telling Sammy
Speaker 1: how to go down on a woman basically, like not
Speaker 1: basically he is, he is, He's telling him how to
Speaker 1: do it, and like Sammy takes out the guitar or
Speaker 1: any plays for him. So this is like our first
Speaker 1: chance to hear him sing and he's got an amazing voice,
Speaker 1: Like he's it's his first the actor, it's his first
Speaker 1: role in a movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a singer before this.
Speaker 1: Like I had no idea. His name is Miles Canton
Speaker 1: and his voice is really cool and different and I'm
Speaker 1: into it. I need to buy the sound I need
Speaker 1: to listen to the soundtrack. I think he's so he's
Speaker 1: so great and I love hearing him sing. So they
Speaker 1: go to the train station and they get do Roy
Speaker 1: Lindo and they again there's like negotiating, like I'll give
Speaker 1: you twenty dollars to play it or joint and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'll just stay where I am. But then they offer
Speaker 1: him a cold Irish beer, which I'm assuming he's never
Speaker 1: had before, so he tries it and his whole face
Speaker 1: just changes, like what's this?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: So good? And we at the train station we also
Speaker 1: meet Mary and that's Haley Steinfeld. Is that how you
Speaker 1: pronounce her name? And she's the little girl from True
Speaker 1: Grit who I know she's done other things since then,
Speaker 1: but to me, she's always.
Speaker 2: She's always going to be that kid from True Grit
Speaker 2: and she's all grown up in marriage. Marie A football player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's yeah, she is all g She was also
Speaker 1: in Pitch Perfect and you know, made a Transformer movie
Speaker 1: or whatever. But she is white passing she's black, but
Speaker 1: she passes for white. And her and Stack used to
Speaker 1: be lovers and they put it much more crudely in
Speaker 1: the movie. But yeah, and they like have their argument
Speaker 1: where I guess her mother like practically raised them and
Speaker 1: they grew up together, and her and Stack they're in love,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He wants to protect her and he
Speaker 1: thinks she'll have a better life passing for white than
Speaker 1: living a black woman, and so his his intentions are good,
Speaker 1: I guess, but he's hurting her by doing that. We
Speaker 1: also meet Perlean and she's hot to trot. She's a
Speaker 1: singer who's also married, and her and Sammy like kind
Speaker 1: of have a moment and she's gonna come to the
Speaker 1: juke joint and what else we oh, Then they go
Speaker 1: out and they meet corn Bread, who is I Correa's
Speaker 1: field worker. And there's this thing where uh, Stack is like, like,
Speaker 1: come and work for us as a bouncer for this bar,
Speaker 1: and you'll make a shit, you know, a lot of money,
Speaker 1: and your wife will probably even let you, like, give
Speaker 1: you a blowjob if you do it. And he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick your ass for talking about my wife
Speaker 1: like that. And she's like, how much money you're talking about?
Speaker 1: Stags All that's a good woman, good woman. Corn Bread
Speaker 1: is fun. He's a fun character.
Speaker 2: He's awesome.
Speaker 1: He is awesome. And Smoke meanwhile, then go this stuff
Speaker 1: is so sad. This stuff is so sad. So Smoke
Speaker 1: goes to visit his wife and that's Annie, and that's
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to her name, ah Wani, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Wami Musaku. She's British. Actually, he goes back to see her,
Speaker 1: but first he visits a grave and it's like it's
Speaker 1: a little grave, it's for baby, and he wants he
Speaker 1: wants to get his wife to cook at the jute joint.
Speaker 1: But that's not really what it's about. It's trying to
Speaker 1: reconnect with his estranged wife. And that's when we learn
Speaker 1: that she is into like who do practices, and that's
Speaker 1: she believes that that's what's kept smoking Stacks safe all
Speaker 1: this time, is her, for lack of a better word, witchcraft.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's like, well, then how come you
Speaker 1: couldn't save our daughter, which is a fucked up thing
Speaker 1: to sid Or. And there's a lot of pain there
Speaker 1: and it's sad. And they hook up and but he
Speaker 1: gives her the speech about because she she does believe
Speaker 1: in her who do practices and she you know, sells
Speaker 1: like special herbs and tonics to people, and she's you know,
Speaker 1: got the little dice and bones that she rolls out
Speaker 1: to tell people's futures and stuff like that. And he
Speaker 1: tells her like, you know, there are no demons, there's
Speaker 1: just money and power and ultimately, like that's it's the
Speaker 1: stuff that's gonna result in a lot of death. This
Speaker 1: part is sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then we meet our are one of our bad guys,
Speaker 1: and he's like an Irish immigrant vampire named remmic Remick.
Speaker 1: I think, is how you're pick Randick Remick Remick.
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he's like running through a field. I guess, like, well,
Speaker 1: the sun is still out a little bit, so he's
Speaker 1: still like kind of burning. He's running away from these
Speaker 1: like Native American vampire hunters and he but he pretends
Speaker 1: that he's you know, just some foolish nice man who
Speaker 1: needs help. And this married couple who they're KKK, so whatever.
Speaker 1: He tricks them into letting inviting him in the house
Speaker 1: because you, as a vampire, you have to be invited,
Speaker 1: that's the old lore. And he turns them into vampires
Speaker 1: and it's pretty horrifying.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Then the jute joint opens. Would you would you go
Speaker 1: to the jute Joint?
Speaker 2: I would so fucking be there. Me. I don't know
Speaker 2: how I get in, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. We would have to be
Speaker 1: someone's plus one.
Speaker 2: I would have to be someone's plus one. That's the
Speaker 2: only way I could do it, But I would, But
Speaker 2: I would love to be there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it And it looks fucking dope, and everyone there
Speaker 1: is like having an amazing time, like they're singing and dancing.
Speaker 1: There's food they've got like Italian wine and they've got
Speaker 1: their Irish beer and del Roy Lindo is playing his
Speaker 1: piano and everyone's just singing and having a great time.
Speaker 1: Mary shows up because and everyone knows now there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some trouble because she's going to go after Stack
Speaker 1: and that's when so then Preacher Boy sings. He plays
Speaker 1: his song and I think it's called I Lied to
Speaker 1: You And this is my favorite. It's probably like a
Speaker 1: lot of people's favorite scene in the movie. But he
Speaker 1: performs and he is so powerful his song that it
Speaker 1: like invites all these like like it.
Speaker 2: Summons the ancestors for all these people, for so all
Speaker 2: these celebratory ideals of like like there's a Chinese dancer,
Speaker 2: like in full makeup, like they're from the opera from
Speaker 2: Taiwan or something. Or and then there's someone I'm sorry
Speaker 2: if I screwed up my geography, but there's like an
Speaker 2: Irish dancing in the corn Irish person dancing in the corner.
Speaker 2: There's like a hip hop person. You can see there's dancing.
Speaker 2: There's a DJ. So there's like this idea of like
Speaker 2: all these different cultures melding together enjoying music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like there's like a funk guitarist and
Speaker 1: the camera it's all like one shot and it's just
Speaker 1: like moving through through the crowd, and the music is
Speaker 1: changing a little bit with each reveal of this different
Speaker 1: spirit from the past or the or the future. There's
Speaker 1: like a funk guitarist.
Speaker 2: Right right, it's not just ancestor, it's also descendants. I
Speaker 2: don't even how to say it, Like it's.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, there's like a woman like twerking, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's it's so fucking cool and I've
Speaker 1: just never seen anything like it. And how often do
Speaker 1: do you watch a movie and you're like, I've never
Speaker 1: seen that before.
Speaker 2: It's incredible, and they're all into it. And then the
Speaker 2: Irish people show up and the remic shows up with
Speaker 2: Lola is that her name? Yeah, and her husband, the
Speaker 2: racist husband, and they're like singing Irish songs. And I
Speaker 2: grew up I'm Irish and my grandfather's from Ireland, and
Speaker 2: I grew up listening to Irish music all the time,
Speaker 2: so I like, I recognize some of the crazy songs.
Speaker 2: She'd be like, da, do you know those words? Because
Speaker 2: my grandpa, my grandpa Py played them, played all these songs.
Speaker 2: So they're playing these songs, and some of these songs
Speaker 2: they're very similar to African America.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're like the blues, but right.
Speaker 2: Right and so and it's yeah, and it's like songs.
Speaker 2: It's it's a storytelling and they're morals and they're like
Speaker 2: and it's so anyway, So they're doing a thing and
Speaker 2: they're trying to attract people. They're trying to you know,
Speaker 2: get in to join the party. And they're like, yeah, nah, no, sorry,
Speaker 2: we y'all look weird. We're not going to do that.
Speaker 2: And so they they're like, all right, well, we'll just
Speaker 2: be out here watching you. And then Mary goes out yes,
Speaker 2: and she's attracted to their music. And then uh, it's
Speaker 2: incredible this shot because she then she takes her gun out,
Speaker 2: you know, she realizes they're weird and it's gonna go
Speaker 2: back to the juke joint and she takes her gun
Speaker 2: out because all right, I'm walking back there. And then
Speaker 2: right and as soon as she walked, Remick all of
Speaker 2: a sudden kind of leaps into the air and then boom,
Speaker 2: you're back into the juke joint and what's her face?
Speaker 2: Is singing or screeching or you know, singing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and is singing.
Speaker 2: Karlene is singing, and so you're like, oh shit, what
Speaker 2: happened with Mary? And then Mary comes back and Mary's
Speaker 2: like what are the freaks? And what are the vampires now?
Speaker 1: But now they don't reveal it at first, but.
Speaker 2: No, no, but then they get together, like so then
Speaker 2: there's like there becomes like this thing where there's like
Speaker 2: this juke joint, there's a thing happening, and now outside
Speaker 2: there's a thing happening. And so the juke joint is
Speaker 2: about the blues and the outside is more about Irish music,
Speaker 2: and they're both in like incantations and like bringing up
Speaker 2: celebratory things, and it's kind of spooky and sexy and weird,
Speaker 2: and there's more people from the juke joint stort of
Speaker 2: winding up outside and the people outside are trying to
Speaker 2: get into the juke joint, and so it becomes it's
Speaker 2: I've never seen this before in my life. And to
Speaker 2: watch them like all like really get into you know,
Speaker 2: these Irish tunes that are very I mean, I just
Speaker 2: it's so much fun to watch it. But it's also like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, what's going to happen because it's still dark out,
Speaker 2: Like they still have hours to like yeah, to hang
Speaker 2: out at this place and like guard it.
Speaker 1: And you really like these people, like you don't want
Speaker 1: anything bad to happen to them, and they they just
Speaker 1: want to have a fucking juice. They just want to
Speaker 1: be in their club having a good time. And outside
Speaker 1: of their club are these people that want to be invited,
Speaker 1: but they are not invited, and they're just waiting outside
Speaker 1: for them to turn them. Basically, like so the minute
Speaker 1: they leave their safety of their club, their community, you know,
Speaker 1: they're in danger. It's it's really really scary. And the
Speaker 1: whole idea that Mary went out there is because everyone
Speaker 1: in the jute joint they are not paying with like
Speaker 1: American money quote unquote, they're pain with like plantation. I
Speaker 1: think they called them scripts or something like. They're they're
Speaker 1: using like wooden nickels and things like that. And so
Speaker 1: she's like, let me go out there because I pass
Speaker 1: for white and talk to these people and see if
Speaker 1: they have money and maybe we can invite them in
Speaker 1: and get their money. And so it's the desire to
Speaker 1: get some money that results in everything falling apart. Basically,
Speaker 1: she goes out there. That scene where he jumps at
Speaker 1: hers really disturbing.
Speaker 2: Creepy, so creepy, but really well done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she comes in and she immediately like
Speaker 1: goes to to stack right at stack. Yeah it's stack,
Speaker 1: and you know, is looking to get some and uh
Speaker 1: like she's she's turning right in front of him, but
Speaker 1: he's not. He's he's otherwise occupied. He will he's not
Speaker 1: noticing you know, and that's when the bite. The bite
Speaker 1: is revealed and she she kills him, she bites him,
Speaker 1: and that's when Smoke runs in and the scene is
Speaker 1: so fucked up and sad. He's watching his brother bleed out.
Speaker 1: They've never been apart, and his you know, his other
Speaker 1: half is is dying and he's obviously devastated. And he
Speaker 1: shot Mary like he immediately whips out his gun and
Speaker 1: shoots her, and she's just like bye, like runs off.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think she says, we're all going we're all gonna
Speaker 1: kill you, you know. And it's meanwhile, Cornbread is also like,
Speaker 1: I have to go take a leak, and he wandered
Speaker 1: off and he has also been turned they he comes back,
Speaker 1: but he needs to be invited in, right.
Speaker 2: So he's trying to smooth talk his way in.
Speaker 1: Yes, and Annie is really smart, like she's you know,
Speaker 1: into into whodoo, and she knows that she knows what
Speaker 1: vampires are, and so she's like, why why do you
Speaker 1: need us to invite you in? Like, just come in.
Speaker 1: You've been coming in and out all day if what's
Speaker 1: the thing, and he's just and then he's like, just
Speaker 1: give me my money then and he like got it,
Speaker 1: got his hand out for the money, and when Smoke
Speaker 1: goes to pay him, he tries to buy it Smoke
Speaker 1: and that's when they really everyone's like, oh shit, there
Speaker 1: really are vampires. And then I think Annie throws pickled
Speaker 1: garlic juice on him. Yes, yeah, and he like gets
Speaker 1: burned and he runs off and Stack wakes up the
Speaker 1: other room. They have locked him in there and he's
Speaker 1: a vampire and there's a fucked up scene where he's
Speaker 1: trying to plead with his brother to let him out.
Speaker 1: And again they're the same actor, right, I don't know
Speaker 1: how like it's so this is where I'd forget that
Speaker 1: there's not two Michael Bee Jordan's.
Speaker 2: I honestly was like, Wow, they found somebody looks just
Speaker 2: like him. It's kinda crazy. And it was also it's
Speaker 2: alsobody and Peggy Sue got married. I didn't realize that
Speaker 2: Barry Miller was playing like the teenage version of himself
Speaker 2: and the older version. It really yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I thought there were two separate actors. I thought, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it was so well done, it was so good.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just sometimes I'm just like, wow, they
Speaker 2: must have found me, they looked just like him. That's
Speaker 2: and it's no, it's just it's movie magic, and it's
Speaker 2: and it's him and his talent.
Speaker 1: And he's in these like the scene where where Stack
Speaker 1: is bleeding out and Smoke is trying to like cover
Speaker 1: it and they're you know, crying and saying like I
Speaker 1: love you and there is no me without you and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Again, I was like, he's doing this
Speaker 1: with himself, like there's no other actor there to play opposite.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure they had stand ins.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but still but still exactly that takes that
Speaker 2: takes skill.
Speaker 1: It's seamless. It's not like back when they had Hailey
Speaker 1: Mills and the Parent Trap. What I'm saying like, at
Speaker 1: no point can you tell that there's like split screen
Speaker 1: things going on or and you I got really wrapped
Speaker 1: up in the story, in the emotions, so I just
Speaker 1: start to forget that they're the same.
Speaker 2: I think we should also remember Big Business because that
Speaker 2: also has quins. He also covered.
Speaker 1: Tonia Please give respect to Big Business or the remake
Speaker 1: of Parent Tra up with Lindsay Lohan. Right Annie, So
Speaker 1: again Annie knows what vampires are, and she you know,
Speaker 1: she gives them the speech that we all get in
Speaker 1: we see in vampire movies Holy Water, Sunlight, Silver Wooden Steaks, right,
Speaker 1: all those things, and don't invite them in, and uh,
Speaker 1: Remnick is remic sorry, is he's turned all these all
Speaker 1: these people that left the club are now turned into vampires.
Speaker 1: And they're out there and they're doing their Irish jigs
Speaker 1: and they're singing their songs and they're getting more powerful.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile they're in the in the juke joint like
Speaker 1: preparing to like do battle. They're getting their guns and
Speaker 1: knives and all this stuff. And Annie tells Smoke like, look,
Speaker 1: if somebody bites me, you need to kill me because
Speaker 1: our baby is waiting on the other side.
Speaker 2: So flex.
Speaker 1: And also Bo the Chinese shopkeeper, he went outside.
Speaker 2: Oh god, Well when he comes back and he's talking
Speaker 2: to Grace and he just like the acting is so
Speaker 2: superb in this movie. You know, the way he behaves
Speaker 2: before he turns and then after and just like the
Speaker 2: way he looks at his wife and talks to her,
Speaker 2: and it's just like, holy shit, it's so heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this whole thing about it's better this way,
Speaker 1: like yeah, we're we're and that's Remnicks thing remis thing
Speaker 1: too is We're gonna be it's all about love. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be a new clan based on it sounds very cold, ye, yes.
Speaker 2: Well there's gonna be no black or white. There's not
Speaker 2: gonna be any race or man or woman. It's just
Speaker 2: gonna be us, which can sound really amazing because you're
Speaker 2: if you're especially if you're you are black, and you're
Speaker 2: living in the South in nineteen thirty two and there's
Speaker 2: the KKK that's got to show up tomorrow and burn
Speaker 2: down your juke joint just out of fucking spite because
Speaker 2: they're losers.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's yes, yes, super losers. So yeah, So Bo
Speaker 1: comes bo Is there like trying to convince her to join,
Speaker 1: and that's when he said, like, well, we'll just go
Speaker 1: visit our daughter, you know, and she loses her shit
Speaker 1: and at that point she ruins it for everyone basically
Speaker 1: by inviting them in, and it turns into a free
Speaker 1: for all, just a brawl of vampires and people trying
Speaker 1: to fight them, and Grace like almost immediately like kills
Speaker 1: Bo but catches fire in the process and dies and
Speaker 1: uh Stack bites Annie, which is really really fucked up.
Speaker 1: And Smoke has to kill Annie and she's like, you
Speaker 1: promised me, you know, you need to do this, and
Speaker 1: at that point, like Mary's and they're running around biting.
Speaker 1: She gets so upset that Annie's been killed that she
Speaker 1: leaves Delta. The del Roy Lindo character like sacrifices himself
Speaker 1: for everyone so that they can get away. And there's
Speaker 1: a huge fight between Smoke and Stack that we don't
Speaker 1: really see the end of, but it's again same actor,
Speaker 1: but you can't tell, and they're fighting each other. It's
Speaker 1: really fucking impressive, and Pearlen gets bit that was so oh,
Speaker 1: we totally bypassed that. Pearlene and Sammy like hooked up
Speaker 1: and he found the button, let's just say.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: Uh, Smoke and Sammy now are like outside the sun
Speaker 1: is starting to write. It's like so close to sun, right,
Speaker 1: they're like so close to making it and remnant out
Speaker 1: there and he's just doing all the join us, you know,
Speaker 1: new plan based on we're going to be so in
Speaker 1: love and happy and we're all going to be together
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and eventually Smoke stabs him through
Speaker 1: the chest and he burns up in the sunlight. Sammy's
Speaker 1: all fucked up, like his face is all scratched up,
Speaker 1: all this stuff. All the other vampires die because the
Speaker 1: sun has come up and they didn't run away for
Speaker 1: whatever reason.
Speaker 2: And well he hits him with the guitar.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's right.
Speaker 2: And the guitar has this silver thing on it that
Speaker 2: like I don't know what it has, but it's got
Speaker 2: like some power to it. Because when he hits Remick
Speaker 2: with it, Remick is like, holy shit, like he's almost
Speaker 2: knocked out. But everybody also is grabbing their heads so
Speaker 2: they're feeling that pain too. Oh yeah, yeah. So they're
Speaker 2: all kind of stunned, and that's why they're not leaving.
Speaker 2: And they just expect Remick to just take him. They
Speaker 2: don't think there's gonna be Remi's over like thirteen hundred
Speaker 2: years old, so yes, he's been doing this for a while.
Speaker 2: He's not new to vampire I mean he's he's got
Speaker 2: the ship down. So they're like, oh, he'll be fine,
Speaker 2: he'll figure it out. Yeah. So because they're all new
Speaker 2: to it, they're like, should we be going home now?
Speaker 2: Like now, they're just what do we do? Yeah? What
Speaker 2: do we do? Guy?
Speaker 1: Dear leader d? Yeah, so he he gets killed and
Speaker 1: they all burn up, and Smoke tells Sammy like, go home,
Speaker 1: don't ever like play the guitar again, you know, go
Speaker 1: be a preacher boy. So, uh, Sammy leaves, and this
Speaker 1: is when the movie starts to like it turns into
Speaker 1: this other thing for just like a second that kind
Speaker 1: of reminded me of Inglorious Bastards, where Smoke is just
Speaker 1: hanging out at the juke joint and he waits until
Speaker 1: the guy who he bought the mill from shows up
Speaker 1: with all his cak k assholes and he just fucking
Speaker 1: murders everybody, like just yep, it's which feels good, Like
Speaker 1: I like watching Nazis die. It's fun for me. So
Speaker 1: he fully murders all these kkk assholes, but in the
Speaker 1: process he also gets shot, and as he's kind of
Speaker 1: fading away, he is seeing Annie and their daughters, so
Speaker 1: we know that they're going to be together. And then
Speaker 1: it cuts back to the opening scene where Sammy is
Speaker 1: going into the church and his father's hugging him and
Speaker 1: begging him, like leave this all behind, but he does
Speaker 1: not because then there's a big time jump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's the credits. You think you're getting credits
Speaker 2: and and it's it's He's and it's Buddy Guy and
Speaker 2: I'm like, is that Buddy Guy? It's Guy and he's
Speaker 2: playing Sammy, So he's he's he's a musician. He's a guitarist,
Speaker 2: very very famous, and so he's playing, and then he's
Speaker 2: he's backstage at this club in Chicago. I guess it's
Speaker 2: Chicago and it's ninety two, and somebody's like, hey, there's
Speaker 2: a couple of people here. They'd like to meet you.
Speaker 2: Is it cool if I send them back? And he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you're not supposed to let people.
Speaker 1: Play, but you invited them in.
Speaker 2: Right, But so that and as soon as he says that,
Speaker 2: he's like, holy shit, what did I just do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And so they walk in and then it's Michael. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's Smoke and Mary, and he looks like
Speaker 2: radio raheem he do the right? Hang. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, he's wearing like a Cosby sweat.
Speaker 2: He's a Cosmy sweater, but he's got the ring with
Speaker 2: the spells out and and uh and it's Mary and
Speaker 2: Smoke and they're just like, hey, buddy, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: And he's like, uh, you know, he's he's been dealing with,
Speaker 2: you know, for fifty years, like the PTSD of of
Speaker 2: all the crap that he's been through because he doesn't
Speaker 2: know what to do with himself, like it is all
Speaker 2: he knows. So and then the and he leans into smoke,
Speaker 2: leans into him, says, oh, you only got a little
Speaker 2: while left, you know, do you want to come join us?
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, no, thanks, yeah, I'm good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: As by the way, Mary let him go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Mary looks like one of the fly girls, Like.
Speaker 2: She definitely looks like a fly like Paula. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a it's not Paula Abdul that was in a who
Speaker 2: is it a Rosie Rosie Perez. Yes, yeah, she looks
Speaker 2: like a fly girl. I mean it's very ninety two.
Speaker 1: It's right on point, Yes, it's it is right on point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, thanks, I.
Speaker 2: Don't yeah, it's like nah, And his brother had said
Speaker 2: to him, I spared your life so that you let
Speaker 2: him live. Yeah. So they they were letting him know,
Speaker 2: like they're not going to bother him, They're gonna right,
Speaker 2: but they give him the opportunity. Do you want to,
Speaker 2: you know, be eternal now? Do you want to have,
Speaker 2: you know, immortality And he's like, nah, I'm good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so they just leave and then you just kind
Speaker 2: of see and he's he's so he says, I wake
Speaker 2: up like once a week, completely paralyzed from everything I've
Speaker 2: been through, Like, and I bet you were, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know who wouldn't. I mean, that is very stressful,
Speaker 2: is really And the only way he knows to cope
Speaker 2: is like to play guitar. That's the one thing that
Speaker 2: comes naturally to him, So I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And his band is named Perlean, which is yeah, lovely,
Speaker 1: but they do. And they also like talk about that
Speaker 1: night and say like basically, hey, before all the vampires
Speaker 1: showed up, it was the greatest night of my life.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. That was the most important part of it. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: except for that part, it was the best day of
Speaker 2: my life. Yeah. I think probably something he relives all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of them. I don't remember if
Speaker 1: it's if it's Stack or if it's Stammy. That says,
Speaker 1: just for a few hours we were free.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, he said, it was the last time I
Speaker 2: saw my brother. Yes, it was the last time I
Speaker 2: saw the sun. And it was the last time I
Speaker 2: felt free, Yeah, which is just heartbreaking because yeah, he
Speaker 2: gave up so much, yeah, like for immortality, and it's
Speaker 2: like that's the whole thing about we're all supposed to
Speaker 2: You don't want to be immortal, you really don't, because
Speaker 2: you say goodbye to everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would take a hard as someone who has
Speaker 1: a lot of health anxiety, I would still take a
Speaker 1: hard pass. Yeah, unbecoming a vampire, like no, thank you.
Speaker 1: But it's this movie's just fucking dope's.
Speaker 2: It's really smart. There's a lot that's going on. And
Speaker 2: I guess that there's so many easter eggs. There's so
Speaker 2: many like rabbit holes you can go down about Irish music,
Speaker 2: about blues music, about specifically Mississippi in the South, and
Speaker 2: racial politics, and it's there's just and like and then
Speaker 2: we'd even talk about like the the the the Irish
Speaker 2: potato famine which sent the Choctaw Indians that are that
Speaker 2: are there there that are also like they're there in
Speaker 2: the daylight looking for vampires as soon as the sun
Speaker 2: goes down there out Yeah, they're like, I'm not doing
Speaker 2: this ship at night. You want to you want to
Speaker 2: make you want to make that fight. You go right ahead.
Speaker 2: But there was a time when in Ireland when people
Speaker 2: were being starved, you know, they had a famine and
Speaker 2: England would not send money. This is a huge reason
Speaker 2: for the troubles. Yah. The Choctaw tribe had sent money
Speaker 2: to Ireland to help people. Right. So there's this whole
Speaker 2: history of people that at one point were adversaries and
Speaker 2: or or allies and then became adversaries and because of
Speaker 2: different conditions that happened. But it's it's just so much
Speaker 2: that's going going on, and it's so smart and it's
Speaker 2: so exciting and it's so well done. Every shot is
Speaker 2: just beautiful. Yes, everything is just deliberate, like there's a
Speaker 2: reason for everything. The art direction is incredible, the costuming,
Speaker 2: the singing, like just the music is just it just
Speaker 2: catches your spirit. It's like, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: know how you like not enjoy this movie. You're just
Speaker 2: a real fucking asshole, you don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's there's definitely people online who just
Speaker 1: want to be that guy and they're like contrary, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're like it's not that good or like everyone's okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the best movie I ever made. Well, here's why
Speaker 1: it isn't like and subscribe to my chant like fuck off,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know it's even if you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not my thing, Like how could you not
Speaker 1: respect what it's trying to do here? It's it's beautiful,
Speaker 1: yes exactly, And yeah, everyone wants to, you know, talk
Speaker 1: about the brutalists last year and how like Cinema's back
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and it's like, here's here's why
Speaker 1: we have movies. This movie has, this movie has everything.
Speaker 2: To think about this movie. And then like the first
Speaker 2: week it came out, which was in April, they had
Speaker 2: to move in a few weeks because of getting like
Speaker 2: certain theaters or something, which just come out in March,
Speaker 2: but it came out in April. But the fact that
Speaker 2: like the first weekend it comes out, it does really well,
Speaker 2: and then Hollywood reporter of Variety, one of them writes
Speaker 2: a shit headline like it didn't really kind of hit
Speaker 2: the whatever that people goals if people were thinking, so
Speaker 2: is this a problem, And then like every week after
Speaker 2: that it was doing better and better and better. Yes,
Speaker 2: and Ben Stiller all people had to be like, this
Speaker 2: is a fucking stupid take like it is.
Speaker 1: Stupid, take like that it made so much money its
Speaker 1: first weekend, it debuted at number one, and they were like, well,
Speaker 1: it still hasn't made a profit, so is it really
Speaker 1: a success? And it's like, you don't write those headlines.
Speaker 2: About anything else.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And then it did something very rare that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen much anymore. It actually held on to that
Speaker 1: number one spot for like.
Speaker 2: And because people were telling their friends, you need to
Speaker 2: see this, you need to go to a theater and
Speaker 2: you need to see this.
Speaker 1: Yes. Like I got lucky because I have a friend
Speaker 1: who goes to press screenings and she's like, do you
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: Go with me?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, buddy, yeah I do. And
Speaker 1: so I got to see it like right before it
Speaker 1: opened in a cool Imax theater and that was and
Speaker 1: I told everyone I know. I was like, go see it,
Speaker 1: Go see it, go see because it's we just don't
Speaker 1: get movies like this kind of movie anymore.
Speaker 2: And it's an original story and it's not based on
Speaker 2: anything you would know didn't read about it before.
Speaker 3: It's it's not a sequel special, it's special, and it
Speaker 3: just it's an outeur that has just really hit his
Speaker 3: stride and knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2: And it's I mean, the cinematography is incredible. I mean
Speaker 2: the lighting, like the light that they use inside the
Speaker 2: juke joint and then with the sun and every I
Speaker 2: mean it's just.
Speaker 1: And the visual effects are seamless. Yes, they don't take
Speaker 1: you out of anything. It doesn't turn into a like
Speaker 1: so many Marvel movies where it's like a blue light
Speaker 1: just shoots into the sky and then there's all these
Speaker 1: like robots fighting or whatever. It like, none of that
Speaker 1: is happening here. It's everything that's happening in that final
Speaker 1: sequence where they're all fighting each other is powerful and
Speaker 1: means something and you know where everybody is. Yeah, all times.
Speaker 1: And Ryan Coogler is so interesting because he does like
Speaker 1: Fruit Veil Station and then he and then he gets
Speaker 1: a Marvel movie and he does Black Panther, which is
Speaker 1: like one of the very best of all the Marvel movies,
Speaker 1: and then he can do something like this, you know well.
Speaker 1: And he also did Creed right, yes, like which we
Speaker 1: also talked about. Yeah, And there's like certain directors that
Speaker 1: are like I understand, they're like, I would never do
Speaker 1: a Marvel movie, but they say it in like such
Speaker 1: a snobby.
Speaker 2: Right, like it's beneath them.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I so appreciate that. Ryan Coogler is like
Speaker 1: I can move from like something like Creed and Black
Speaker 1: Panther and do something like Sinners, and each of them
Speaker 1: are like just like very much his movie and his vision.
Speaker 1: No matter what format, format genre he's working in, it's
Speaker 1: good and it looks like one of his movies. Like
Speaker 1: these people that are like like turn their noses up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, have you seen Black Panther. It's really fucking good.
Speaker 1: It's a good movie, like one of the best of
Speaker 1: the Marvel movies, one hundred percent. And if this movie isn't,
Speaker 1: I know, the oscars or like everyone's the oscars are bullshit.
Speaker 1: But if it isn't nominated for a lot of shit,
Speaker 1: the oscars are super fucking broken. Yeah, because it performances, music, costumes, cinematography,
Speaker 1: like come on.
Speaker 2: Editing, all of it, all of it.
Speaker 1: And if you stay through all the credits, at the
Speaker 1: very end, you get a scene with Sammy playing this
Speaker 1: little light of mine just in his father's church. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's even supposed to be in character,
Speaker 1: if that's just the actor but he's got such a
Speaker 1: good voice. Yeah, it does so good. Anything else we
Speaker 1: want to say about this amazing movie, it's just it's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Y'all rent it, rent it, buy it, do
Speaker 1: all the things. Well, we don't do brand new movies
Speaker 1: that often. So I have the top ten movies of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five so far.
Speaker 2: Have I seen?
Speaker 1: I'm like, actually, you're gonna I haven't seen a lot
Speaker 1: of these either, Okay, and I go to the movies
Speaker 1: all the time. So number ten is Disney's Snow White.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunate. Yeah, dog man, I don't even know what
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 1: It's a cartoon. It's for kids. I know of this movie,
Speaker 1: I just haven't seen it. Number eight is Final Destination Bloodlines.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1: It's have you seen any of the Final Destination movies?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I haven't seen this one either. Number seven
Speaker 1: actually I think came out last year, but it's still
Speaker 1: making a shit ton of money. Mufasa the Lion King.
Speaker 2: Really yep? Is that the live action one? Is it? Yeah? Oh? Wow? Interesting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like I didn't see it. Now Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1: The Final Reckoning, I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three hours, No thanks, I'll wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Number five Thunderbolts.
Speaker 2: Don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: That's the new Marvel movie with Florence Pew and Sebastian
Speaker 1: Stan' I haven't seen it. Captain America Brave New World. Nope,
Speaker 1: I saw that one. It was not good. Number three
Speaker 1: is Sinners. We've seen that one.
Speaker 2: I've seen that one.
Speaker 1: Number two is the live action Leelo and Stitch. Nope, nope,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. And then number one is a
Speaker 1: Minecraft movie.
Speaker 2: I have no interest. I have no idea what it is. Wow.
Speaker 1: I know I will see it at some point because Calvin,
Speaker 1: my son will want to watch it. But no, I've
Speaker 1: seen Sinners, and I'm seeing Captain America Brave New World.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of these other movies. All right,
Speaker 1: So cool?
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear the top ten songs for
Speaker 2: when this came out? Yeah? I do. We do this
Speaker 2: all the time, and sometimes we have no idea what
Speaker 2: the songs are, and sometimes we know all of them.
Speaker 2: So number ten says is April of this year.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Number ten Tate McRae sports Car. I don't know that one.
Speaker 2: Number nine Teddy Swims bad Dreams. I know Teddy Swims,
Speaker 2: I don't Okay Rose and Bruno Mars.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, I do know that one.
Speaker 2: Number seven I love this song, Lowly Young messy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's a good song.
Speaker 2: Fucking love her. Uh. Number six Sizza yea yes. Number
Speaker 2: five Kendrick Lamar and Sizza Luther.
Speaker 1: Heard of them, I've heard of them.
Speaker 2: No, I know that song. I know that one. Number
Speaker 2: four Gracie Adams. That's so true.
Speaker 1: I have heard that song before, Okay, not bad sonya,
Speaker 1: not bad.
Speaker 2: Number three Sabrina Carpenter bad Kim, Bedkim.
Speaker 1: I love that song. Actually, it's on many A playlist.
Speaker 2: Number two Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars die with a smile.
Speaker 1: Oh that's yeah, okay yes.
Speaker 2: And number one you'll you should know this Chapel Rowan
Speaker 2: Pink Pony Club.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, of course they do. I still sing it.
Speaker 1: I sing it around the house all the time. But
Speaker 1: I changed the to the Max Toby Club. That's what
Speaker 1: I call it, Toby Club. I spend too much time
Speaker 1: at home. What else are you jerky out about? My friend?
Speaker 2: What's on Netflix now is becoming led Zeppelin. It's a
Speaker 2: really good documentary about led Zeppelin if you're even slightly interested.
Speaker 2: I mean just hearing about blues music that we just heard,
Speaker 2: that's what led Zeppelin kind of like, that's what they
Speaker 2: started playing, that's what they were, that's what they're jumping
Speaker 2: off point. It's a really interesting documentary, like they're and uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I love Zeppelins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's on my list. I didn't realize it
Speaker 1: was out already. Okay, up to.
Speaker 2: The top number Love Hotel the Bravo Show. Ashley is nuts.
Speaker 2: Her youth and beauty are wasted on her. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say she has a couple of guys that are really
Speaker 2: into her, that are around her. A really cute and
Speaker 2: she just has such a boner for daddy types.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's yeah, he's like sixty something.
Speaker 2: Right, and yes, it's it's bizarre.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's definitely got a type.
Speaker 2: She's got a Yeah, she's got some issues. But leu
Speaker 2: Anne is hilariousu Anne scolding the guy that she slept
Speaker 2: with the nights who was putting his hands all over Cynthia,
Speaker 2: which by the way, was really gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like, you keep your hands to yourself, sir.
Speaker 2: Keep your hands to yourself, your pig. So anyway, it's
Speaker 2: still so well done, so well cast. Yeah, they could
Speaker 2: just keep doing this forever. I don't they.
Speaker 1: Really could they They could bring in four other housewives
Speaker 1: and do another season of this, and I will I'll
Speaker 1: watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just really does it well. Below deck original
Speaker 2: recipe started, Oh they have a new season. It's uh,
Speaker 2: it looks like a real horny crew. I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be like a love boat.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing, like you're okay, it's.
Speaker 2: Got that written all over it, which is which I like. Then.
Speaker 2: Oh God, and just like that.
Speaker 1: I love that you're watching it.
Speaker 2: I still watch it. So Aiden tells Carrie, I need
Speaker 2: to go home. She lives in New York. He lives
Speaker 2: in Virginia. I need to go home to my fifteen
Speaker 2: year old son because he's really spiraling out of control.
Speaker 2: I can't date a woman, I can't talk to a woman,
Speaker 2: I can't go out with anybody. I can't be in
Speaker 2: any relationship. I just need to be around my son
Speaker 2: for five years. You're so stupid, This was what he
Speaker 2: tells her. Okay, she is sixty years old at this point. Yes,
Speaker 2: when is she gonna stop letting men treat her like
Speaker 2: this ever so fucking infuriating and it's.
Speaker 1: Just stupid, and nobody fucking does that.
Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody does It's so stupid. Mario Cantone at one
Speaker 2: point he plays.
Speaker 1: A sassy you know, he's a say gay friend.
Speaker 2: He's a sassy gay friend, and he's like, what are
Speaker 2: you doing? And she gives him the coldest look and
Speaker 2: then he has to apologize to her at the end
Speaker 2: of the episode like I'm so sorry, which is so stupid.
Speaker 2: Like it's just they've all reverted all these characters. You
Speaker 2: love people are somebody wh's not saying like like Kristin
Speaker 2: Davis and John Corbett forgot how to act, And it's
Speaker 2: very true. Whoa like they don't know how to act anymore.
Speaker 2: Cynthia Miranda is like hitting on women left and right
Speaker 2: and is like totally like not getting signals, like all
Speaker 2: of a sudden she's gay, Like well, I'm gay. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look for women everywhere. I mean, it's it's so
Speaker 2: And then they have an interesting woman named Sema who's
Speaker 2: Indian and but raised in America, and she's like in
Speaker 2: her fifties, she's super successful and she has like a
Speaker 2: series of bad dates, and so they put her with
Speaker 2: a matchmaker who says, change all your clothes, don't be
Speaker 2: so bossy, blah blah blah, And so she does it.
Speaker 2: What and she goes to dinner with a guy and
Speaker 2: then she's like, you know what, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2: This isn't really me blah blah blah. She tells it
Speaker 2: about herself and then he just ditches her. So it's like,
Speaker 2: what is the message here about women?
Speaker 1: And like, oh my god, this is why I can't
Speaker 1: go back and even rewatch the old ones because.
Speaker 2: It's so infuriating. It's like, it's like very it's people
Speaker 2: don't talk this way. People like no one would agree
Speaker 2: to a five year.
Speaker 1: No anything at that age, at sixty, grow grow up.
Speaker 2: I mean it's and he just like his acting is terrible,
Speaker 2: like and Kristin Davis and her character is just I mean,
Speaker 2: Charlotte's never been deep, but oh my god, she has
Speaker 2: a dog named Richard Burton. We're all supposed to think
Speaker 2: that that's really clever. It's it's it's uh, I can't
Speaker 2: help it. Yeah, I watch it. I'm annoyed by it.
Speaker 2: I checked and then I check all the sights and
Speaker 2: we're all annoyed by it because this was such a
Speaker 2: big part of our like twenty forties that the first
Speaker 2: time round for those of us that were there, like,
Speaker 2: it was a big deal. When they went, it was
Speaker 2: like that Franos they came back, you know, they'd be
Speaker 2: gone for a year and then they came back with
Speaker 2: new episodes like oh my God, Sex and the City,
Speaker 2: Sunday Nights, every you know, it was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a big deal. The show was a
Speaker 1: big deal at the time. It was first of all,
Speaker 1: it featured four women, which is like that like never happened,
Speaker 1: and they had very frank conversations about dating and sex,
Speaker 1: which was also not something that happened for women. So
Speaker 1: and then we were all obsessed with the show and
Speaker 1: everybody was like, I'm a Samantha, I'm a Miranda, you
Speaker 1: know whatever, right, and you watch the shows like over
Speaker 1: and over and over. We really cared about those people,
Speaker 1: and I go back and when I've gone back and rewatched,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't. It's like so cringe and only
Speaker 1: Samantha holds up for.
Speaker 2: Me exactly, and the and they she didn't come back
Speaker 2: and the actors, like they keep asking the actors like,
Speaker 2: what are you going to bring Samantha back? And the
Speaker 2: actors like Cynthia, uh, what's her last name?
Speaker 1: Not get Mixon Mixon.
Speaker 2: So she like somebody interviewed her like, oh, do you
Speaker 2: ever think like what Samantha would think of your character
Speaker 2: right now? And she's just like, no, I never think
Speaker 2: about it at all.
Speaker 1: Samantha.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Samantha was a huge character, and like a
Speaker 2: big she made huge progress as a character, yes, like
Speaker 2: really grew up and was still her own person and
Speaker 2: was a good friend to all of them. That's what
Speaker 2: like the betrayal comes from, is like, of all of them,
Speaker 2: she was the real good friend. You know. Carrie was
Speaker 2: the worst and she still is y'all, just so you know.
Speaker 2: And she's got fuck you money now, so she really
Speaker 2: doesn't have to like be polite or to be oh sorry,
Speaker 2: Carrie ends it. So she has a rat infant station
Speaker 2: at her home that she just bought like for twenty
Speaker 2: million dollars. She has to get a new garden, and
Speaker 2: then some hot gardener guy just showed up, so we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: so maybe she's gonna have so then there's going to
Speaker 2: be an aid and versus this guy kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I think, brother, and it's like, where are we fighting
Speaker 2: over her?
Speaker 1: She's really yeah, my bro, seriously just say no.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: She the fact that she is the age she is
Speaker 1: and still behaves the way she's behaving is this is
Speaker 1: it's you let it slide when you're in your twenty
Speaker 1: and you're and even in your thirties, but now they're
Speaker 1: in fifties and sixties, and you're like, you're still behaving
Speaker 1: this way. You're still centering men, right and not yourself.
Speaker 1: That's she and she has so much.
Speaker 2: She got it. She was playing a long game with
Speaker 2: Big It turns out turns out he really had as
Speaker 2: much money as she thought he did, so when he
Speaker 2: died and she inherited most of it. She could do anything.
Speaker 2: She I mean, as crude as it sounds, you can
Speaker 2: do anything you want with your life now.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes she could.
Speaker 2: And she just bobbles around this house like the alarms
Speaker 2: go off and she doesn't know what she's doing. Or
Speaker 2: she's starting to write a novel and it's like a
Speaker 2: historical fiction, but she writes like a couple of sentences
Speaker 2: and then a bunch of rats show up at her backyard.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like she could be traveling, she could
Speaker 2: be just doing so many things. She could be working
Speaker 2: at a charity, she could be I don't know, but
Speaker 2: her is a character. She's just never grew up with
Speaker 2: that character, and it's really really frustrating.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that's a frustrating watch for you, but I
Speaker 1: know you'll keep watching because, oh.
Speaker 2: Keep watching it because god forbid, you're hilarious anyway, because
Speaker 2: it makes for a good discussion. I mean, as angry
Speaker 2: as you get, I think like that's part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think, like, I think you're right. I think
Speaker 2: like the people run the show are like, oh, people
Speaker 2: are talking about us. That's all we you know, that's
Speaker 2: all they care about and all they care about. Yeah,
Speaker 2: at least they're talking about us. It's like, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: I just can't bring myself to watch it.
Speaker 2: I can't see this on E on repeats and people
Speaker 2: being like, oh my god, this is so like the
Speaker 2: original show was also thirty minutes. Yeah, like it was
Speaker 2: like a cocktail that you had every week, yes, right,
Speaker 2: and now it's like this meal, but you don't feel full,
Speaker 2: You're just annoyed.
Speaker 1: You feel sick after you feel.
Speaker 2: Sick after, it's like why did I eat that? Like
Speaker 2: this is I feel terrible?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm glad I've made the decision not to
Speaker 1: jump in, but.
Speaker 2: You probably will and you'll be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: what is this. That's the thing is like when you're watching,
Speaker 2: like no one's actually wrote this as a script. This
Speaker 2: is not dialogue. This is like the worst dial This
Speaker 2: is placeholder dialogue.
Speaker 1: Like I see clothes all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get so you get the idea?
Speaker 1: Yeah I do. Is there anything else on your list?
Speaker 2: No? That's it.
Speaker 1: Well, so my list is very short because we already
Speaker 1: talked about Love Hotel. Love Island USA started this week,
Speaker 1: which I lose my shit for Love Island USA. It's
Speaker 1: on like five or six nights a week, so I'll
Speaker 1: be watching a lot of that. But here's the big news.
Speaker 1: So it started on like Tuesday. There were two Trumpers
Speaker 1: in the there's like five girls, five boys, and one
Speaker 1: girl and one boy were Trumpers, and all the viewers
Speaker 1: on social media were like, fuck these Trumpers, they have
Speaker 1: to go. We don't want Maga in the villa. And
Speaker 1: it's really messed up, like be fully trumped to be
Speaker 1: fully maga and then put these people in a house
Speaker 1: with like people of color. Yeah, is gross and could
Speaker 1: be harmful. But so the woman like it turned out
Speaker 1: some video was found of her on a podcast where
Speaker 1: she's dropping the N bomb repeatedly. So the producers of
Speaker 1: Love and all the fans of Love Island were like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna vote them out first thing. We don't care
Speaker 1: about anything else. All we're doing is voting out these people.
Speaker 1: After the first episode aired, the producers with and they
Speaker 1: removed the removed the woman in the middle of the
Speaker 1: fucking night. They just and they just mentioned they just
Speaker 1: say Lisa has left the villa and they never mention
Speaker 1: her again. Oh wow, like she's completely cut, like the
Speaker 1: nothing from the other Islanders going oh it was kind
Speaker 1: of crazy when they came and took her away, or hey,
Speaker 1: I was paired with her and now she's gone nothing.
Speaker 1: They're just pretending like she was never there. It's bananas.
Speaker 1: And then the other Maga is this man named Austin
Speaker 1: who is so fucking dumb Margo you would die like
Speaker 1: he is he's Maga. He's Maga and he's a pool boy,
Speaker 1: like that's his thing. And he's like and I have
Speaker 1: a boss. It's this total cock blocker. I would be
Speaker 1: hooking up all the time if it wasn't for my boss.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, gross, dude, just clean the fucking pool.
Speaker 1: Leave those ladies alone. And he's just real dumb, like
Speaker 1: he can't form a complete sentence. None of the women
Speaker 1: are into him. As soon as it comes times for voting, like,
Speaker 1: it'll be very easy to remove it. We probably won't
Speaker 1: even have to vote him off because none of the
Speaker 1: women want to pair up with them. But it's a
Speaker 1: very entertaining show. They if you never watched, they bring
Speaker 1: all these people into a villa. They it's kind of
Speaker 1: like Big Brother. They're together all the time. They have
Speaker 1: no social media, there's no TV, no movies, so really
Speaker 1: all they have to do is talk to each other
Speaker 1: all the time. They pair them up. They can beat
Speaker 1: in games together and some of them fall in love
Speaker 1: and others don't. And if you're not paired up, you
Speaker 1: get removed from the island. And also we get to vote,
Speaker 1: so sometimes we get to remove couples that we don't like.
Speaker 1: And it's only been a couple of days and already
Speaker 1: there's like a couple that's paired up and this woman
Speaker 1: is so I was like, you've known this man for
Speaker 1: two days and she is so possessive of him. It's
Speaker 1: really really disturbing, but it's very entertaining and messy.
Speaker 2: And that's on Peacock.
Speaker 1: It's on Peacock. And is it every night?
Speaker 2: It's on.
Speaker 1: It is on every night except for Wednesday nights for
Speaker 1: some reason, and then on Saturday night instead of an episode,
Speaker 1: they have like almost like a watch what happens, but
Speaker 1: it's for Love Island, so they have a host and
Speaker 1: they bring on like the people who got kicked off
Speaker 1: and they interview them and they talk about the show.
Speaker 1: So really it's like five episodes a week. It's messy.
Speaker 1: You might like it, Margo, You like messy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's like it's it's it's the time crunch,
Speaker 2: it's the number of hours you have to watch that
Speaker 2: I that kind of loses me. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Last season was my first season ever watching it because
Speaker 1: it's hosted by Ariano Mattis from vander Pump Rules, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I like her, I'm going to check
Speaker 1: this out and I just got addicted. And three of
Speaker 1: those couples out of the six have stayed together and
Speaker 1: they're all like BFF and you follow them on social
Speaker 1: and they're always together and all this stuff. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's what's gonna happen this season. No one's
Speaker 1: super grown on me. But also it's such an insight
Speaker 1: into like the twenty somethings as a as an old lady,
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of an awe of I don't they
Speaker 1: wear The women wear bikinis and they're like under boobs
Speaker 1: are out all the time, and I'm like, that's a thing,
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing, Like I don't understand. I feel
Speaker 1: like such an old lady when I watch they also
Speaker 1: like we'll talk about how many sexual partners they've had
Speaker 1: or and it's a crazy high number. Their body counting, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: their body count. Yeah, they're you know, they make them
Speaker 1: make out all the time too, and they're just like
Speaker 1: that's fine. And I'm just an old prude. But it
Speaker 1: is a very entertaining, messy show. So I do recommend it,
Speaker 1: and I think that's all I'm watching besides Love Hotel.
Speaker 1: But you've kind of interested me in the below deck
Speaker 1: original recipe. They're horny, you say horny.
Speaker 2: They're horny, and also it's it's it's just the personalities,
Speaker 2: like the one of them is from Love Island, France.
Speaker 2: And what I've learned from French people on this show
Speaker 2: is they tend to be very temperamental and they don't
Speaker 2: like to be told what to do. And there's one
Speaker 2: girl who has exactly twenty days experience and now she's
Speaker 2: a stew and she's like, go talk to me that way.
Speaker 2: If you want to be you have to ask me, like,
Speaker 2: who the fuck are you? You know nothing? You were
Speaker 2: on Love Island, France. Nobody even saw you before. But
Speaker 2: I get it's like the pattern. They're in the Mediterranean
Speaker 2: and it's Captain Carry so it's different from Captain Lee.
Speaker 2: Captain Carrey was from Edventua.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, and I don't know this nonsense.
Speaker 2: He's no nonsense, but but he's I like, I like
Speaker 2: a tough boss. I like a good boss. He's a
Speaker 2: good boss.
Speaker 1: I will check it out.
Speaker 2: You should check it out like they had their first episode.
Speaker 2: See if you're interested.
Speaker 1: Okay, I will definitely check it out. I think that's everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll have more things on my list next week for sure.
Speaker 1: If you like the sound of our Voices. We also
Speaker 1: co host a podcast called What a Creep, where we
Speaker 1: talk about creeps of the past and the present. Our
Speaker 1: current episode out right now is about the Bloody Benders. Yes,
Speaker 1: led by Margo. She did such a good job taking
Speaker 1: us through this old timey murdering family in.
Speaker 2: Kansas during uh, during the westward expansion.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ugh, yeah, you did such a d I wouldn't do it,
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Uh. Where can they find you? On social media? Margo?
Speaker 2: You could find me at Brooklynfitchick dot com. I'm at
Speaker 2: Brooklynfitchick for threads, and Instagram. On blue Sky and TikTok,
Speaker 2: I'm at Brooklyn Margo, And then at YouTube, I'm at
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Speaker 1: learned so much from you, Margo.
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