Speaker 1: You're listening to the Mind Over Murder podcast.
Speaker 2: My name is Bill Thomas. I'm a writer, consulting, producer,
and now podcaster. I am now trying to use my
experience as the brother of a murder victim to help
other victims of violent crime. I'm working on a book
on the unsolved Colonial Parkway murders and I'm the co
administrator of the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook group together with
Kristin Dilly.
Speaker 3: My name is Kristin Dilly. I'm a writer, a researcher,
a teacher, and a victim's advocate, as well as the
social media manager and co administrator for the Colonial Parkway
Murders Facebook page with my partner in crime, Bill Thomas.
Welcome to Mind Over Murder. I'm Kristin Dilly.
Speaker 4: That makes me Bill Thomas.
Speaker 3: And it's been a crazy twenty four hours, hasn't it,
Bill Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm exhausted. Yesterday was an adrenaline high. Today, the
reality of the developments and the Colonial park Ray murders
are beginning to settle in and we are getting deluged
with information which we will be trying to sort out
and pass along to law enforcement to help keep the
forward momentum of the Colonial Parkway murders happening.
Speaker 3: For everybody who immediately asked, what are you guys going
to put an episode out? We hope this is what
you had in mind. We're doing our best. But as
Bill said, it's been an adrenaline pact twenty four hours.
And I was so amped when I got home yesterday
and I couldn't settle that. I had to go for
a run around the neighborhood at top speed and I
still wasn't able to bleed off all of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will admit quite exhausted on Monday because I
actually knew this was coming. And Sunday night I usually
sleep really well. I'm one of those frustrating people that
just fly down, go to sleep, sleep through the night.
I figure, if you're going to spend a third of
your life doing something, why not try to get good
at it. Pamela, my partner, teases me about being an
incredibly good sleeper and she wishes she could follow suit. However,
Sunday night was not one of those nights. First of all,
Sunday evening, my phone started blowing up with people reaching.
Speaker 4: Out to me to let me know that people that lived.
Speaker 2: In Lancaster, Virginia were aware the fact that the FBI
had conducted a raid up in that part of Virginia,
which is about an hour and fifteen minutes or so
north of Williamsburg. Yeah, this beautiful area that I've never
been to, but I've looked at online up near the
Rappahannock River.
Speaker 3: It's called the Northern Neck.
Speaker 2: And I had to look all this stuff up. Somebody
asked me today, We've been hearing from a ton of
people with information which the FBI is seeking. We're doing
our best to help the FBI and the Virginia State Police.
Speaker 4: Move these cases forward.
Speaker 2: People have been reaching out to me, and one of
the questions that someone asked me today was have you
ever been to the Northern Neck? And I said, nope,
have you ever been up there?
Speaker 3: I have not often, but I think Mark and I
decided to take a very random road trip there a
couple of months back. I don't remember for why. I
think we were just looking for a really good burger,
of all things, and we were in a rut and decided,
you know what, let's just go someplace else, anyplace else,
and let's go see if we can find a good
interesting restaurant to eat at. Sometimes we'll just go places
looking for good restaurants.
Speaker 4: Got it.
Speaker 3: It is very pretty up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's get into why we might be talking
about the Northern Neck with a little bit of a
conversation about January eighth, twenty twenty four's press conference with
developments in the Colonial Parkway murders.
Speaker 3: So you knew this was coming. I had an inkling,
and I remember calling you the night before and saying,
I don't want to get your hopes up, but and
you were like, no, go ahead, and I said, I
just heard there's going to be a press conference tomorrow,
and the two of us figured out, okay, it's probably
about these cases in the Colonial Parkway, at least some
of the Colonial Parkway cases. I remember waiting on pins
and needles all morning for you to text me and say, hey,
there's going to be a press conference at one, and
then it was wait till pins and needles until one thirty.
But when we finally got to one thirty yesterday, the
Virginia State Police, the FBI, and several other law enforcement
agencies held this press conference to announce that they had
they classified it as major updates in cold case homicides,
and at that point they announced that Alan Wade Wilmer,
Senior of Kilmarnick, Virginia, who is now deceased, was responsible
for the the deaths of Robin Edwards and David Nobling
on Ragged Island in nineteen eighty seven and Teresa Howell
in Hampton in nineteen eighty nine. And that was a bombshell.
Speaker 2: It sure was off the bat. Something struck me as
odd and still does, which is the announcement regarding the
press conference did not highlight the Colonial Parkway murders. In
speaking to reporters, I did some interviews yesterday and today.
We want to keep the focus primarily on the three families.
Of course, the families of Robin Edwards, David Nobling and
Teresa Howell.
Speaker 4: I was also asked to do some interviews.
Speaker 2: Some of the reporters were looking for kind of a
general reaction to the news and how the other families
felt about how this might help move the rest of
the Colonial Parkway murders forward. But one of the things
that the reporters told me was wasn't very clear that
they were going to be discussing the Colonial Parkway murders,
and there was even an odd reference to Isle of Wight,
which is Isle of Wight County, again without really highlighting
the fact that we're going to be talking about Robin
Edwards and David Nobling, one of the four double homicides
in the Colonial Parkway murders.
Speaker 3: We talked about that when I was leaving school to
come back home to watch the press conference, and I
was wondering because they hadn't said anything in the press
release about Colonial Parkway murders. We've speculated, you and I
that maybe they were burying the lead on this and
that they wanted to maybe make the announcement and then say, oh,
and we have tied him to X number of other
cases in the Colonial Parkway murders. Obviously they didn't do that,
but I also was curious, like, why did they not
immediately say two of the Colonial Parkway murders cases have
been linked to this guy.
Speaker 2: It's quite curious. So what did we learn about Alan
Wade Wilmer Senior, who is the suspect in question. We
learned that this guy is a waterman from the Northern Neck,
which is why we were discussing the Northern Neck. He's
described as transient, often living on his wooden boat, the
Denny Wade, and that's named for two of his kids
who'd be grown ups by this point, Denny and Wade.
He spent time on the York River and this I
think is very important, and often docked in Gloucester and Hampton.
This is really important. He drove a blue nineteen sixty
six Dodge Fargo truck with a custom license plate that
said em raw as in edam Raw. Keeping in mind,
this guy is a crabber fisherman and most importantly an oysterman,
so the em raw, in addition into being a sexually
explicit suggestive license plate, also refers to oysters.
Speaker 4: One would assumed I.
Speaker 3: Took it to a much different, darker place, which probably
says a lot about me.
Speaker 2: Perhaps Alan Wade Wilmer Senior. It's very important to make
that senior distinction because he has a son who has
the exact same name, who's Alan Wade Wilmer Junior, who
would have been, by the way, about eight years old
at the time of the Colonial Parkway murders. So he's
a grown man now, but he was a little kid
back then.
Speaker 3: And he was absolutely horrified to learn this about his father.
I feel really terrible for his family having to learn
that your father is a monster essentially. Yeah, I feel
really terrible for them.
Speaker 2: This vehicle, this sixty six Dodge Fargo truck, was very
dis because remember he is driving this truck as recently
as the nineteen eighties, and the truck has equipment that's
attached to it which is designed for hauling, equipment used
in fishing, crabbing, and oyster pulling. You can tell I
don't know a lot about how oysters are harvested.
Speaker 3: Oyster and it is just how you say it.
Speaker 2: But this truck is incredibly important. And one of the
things we're going to be emphasizing here on mind Over
Murder is the FBI and the Virginia State Police and
the Hampton Police Department and local law enforcement have asked
for your help. They want to hear from people who
recognize this very distinctive truck. It's old and faded. I
would describe the color as blue green. It had writing
on the doors of the truck, and of course the
em raw eden raw license plate, and then all of
the equipment. They almost look like a tow truck would
look like with the these big tongs. I'm told they're
called that extend out and are used for oystering. This
truck is really important. Further, Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. And
his appearance are very distinctive. He's five foot five inches tall,
so he is I think the average American male is
about five foot ten. I'm happened to be six feet tall,
so he is seven inches shorter than I am. And
I don't think I don't look like an extraordinarily tall guy.
I think I look fairly average in height. He's five
foot five, very muscular, who weighs one hundred and sixty
five pounds. So if you saw this man in this
very distinctive truck, that's pretty memorable. And then if you
saw him outside his vehicle walking around or working or whatever,
he's very short, really out of the ordinary, and he's
very stocky. His nickname was Pokey, and he almost sounds
like a cartoon character. When I heard him described, I thought,
this guy almost sounds like Popeye. This little guy with
these big arms is got to be a very striking figure.
We've got pictures in our show notes of Allan Wade
Wilmer Sr. The folks from law enforcement did a fantastic job.
They had a whole photo array of what he looked
like at various times over the years. Yeah, which is
incredibly helpful as a younger man, all the way up
to when he was somewhat older and he died at
age sixty three, which we'll get into in a minute.
And then they've got great pictures of the truck, the
license plate. This should help people. He was a very
avid outdoorsman. He was a hunter, a fisherman. What they're
looking for are people that may have hunted and fished
with him. Keeping in mind, one of the four Colonial
Parkway murders, that of Anna Maria Phelps and Daniel Lower,
took place at a hunt club. I know that law
enforcement is looking into could he have been a guest
at that hunt club that's the one off Interstate sixty four.
If he was coming down to the Gloucester Hampton area,
he might have come down sixty four from the Northern Neck.
That hunt club, where Anna Maria Phelps and Daniel Lower's
bodies were found in nineteen eighty nine, would have been
a place that he might have passed. And we're wondering
if he might have ever hunted or socialized with the
members of that Hunt club. So the background needed for
the life, if you will, of Alan Wade Wilmer Senior,
is very much needed.
Speaker 4: Right now.
Speaker 2: People are really coming forward and contacting us, and I've
been talking to a number of people online trying to
catch up on the calls and texts. I know the
same thing is happening with Joyce called Canada and other
family members. We really want to try to push these
folks to talk to the FBI and the Virginia State
Police because they need more information about this guy.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and they are better equipped with the tip
lines and everything to handle the kind of volume that
we're getting. I know that you're rather overwhelmed with it
right at the moment, So we do want to stress
to folks, thank you very much for reaching out. We
really do appreciate that. As the FBI, I'm sure would
like us to stress we are not investigators. We are
not equipped to handle the volume of tips that are
coming in. Please, by all means, make sure that you
send that information to the FBI the Virginia State Police.
We will put links to everything on our show notes,
and you're welcome to give the information to us as well,
But please do you send it to the FBI or
the VSP first. They really need that information and they
can do a whole lot more with it than too
humble podcasters, both of whom have day jobs and can't,
unfortunately go out and do the amount of sleuthing that
we would.
Speaker 4: Like to do.
Speaker 2: The investigators know what they're looking for. They are definitely
looking to fill in some blanks on this man's life.
He died of natural causes at home in December twenty seventeen.
As a result of his death, his body was not
discovered for quite some time, and he'd gone into an
advanced state of decomposition, which is again a very sad
way to die. When somebody dies in a situation like
that and they're in an advanced state of decomposition as
he was, they take a DNA sample to confirm is
this actually the person we think it should be, and
they were able to confirm his identity. Later on, when
law enforcement was looking for more information about this potential
sub suspect in the Colonial Parkway murders, they were able
to request and receive a copy of his DNA report
that led to the discoveries that were announced at the
press conference.
Speaker 4: Yesterday.
Speaker 3: I know that I, like everyone else who was watching,
was holding my breath to see what they were going
to say with regard to connections to the other Colonial
Parkway murders cases. I want to quote directly from my
transcript of the press conference here because I think it's
very important that everybody hears the wording used, and I
know not everybody was able to stream that live on
their computer or their phone. And this is from the
joint press conference on January eighth, and the person speaking
was Corinne Geller, who is the pr person for Virginia
State place. Many in the region will recognize that the
Isle of Wight double homicide as one that occurred during
a series of double homicides collectively known as the Colonial
Parkway murders. Although the similarities in these double homicides, which
spanned a three year period, cannot be ignored, at this time,
there is no forensic or physical evidence to link the
Isle of White County homicides to those other double murders.
The remaining double homicides, the two in York County that
occurred on the Colonial Parkway and the one that occurred
in New Kent County, are still active. Investigations and our
combined investigative efforts continue. End quote.
Speaker 2: Let me push back a little bit here, go ahead.
First of all, I don't know why the Virginia State
Police and the FBI are suddenly referring to the murder
of Robin Edwards and David Nobling as the isle of
white homicides. Nobody calls them that. This distancing language, in
my opinion, seems to be actually separating them from the
colonial Parkway murders. Also note the fact that they use
the expression no forensic or physical evidence. If anything, the
identification of this suspect confirms that Robin Edwards and David
Knoblings murder is directly related to the disappearance of Keith
Call and Cassandra Haley, because we know that Allen Wade
Wilmer was a leading suspect in the disappearance of Keith
Call and Cassandra Haley. So I don't understand why the
law enforcement spokespeople, and there were a number of them,
and they did a great job, but why they're parsing
things in this very odd way. I do understand, as
someone who's been following this case for thirty seven years,
that we currently have no for ransick or physical evidence
that links the four double homicides in the Colonial Parkway
murders together. In other words, it's all circumstantial. But if anything,
this identification of this suspect confirms that Robin Edwards and
David Nobling are part of the Colonial Parkway murders. And
I actually don't appreciate law enforcement suddenly calling this the
isle of white homicides. They are not the isle of
white homicides. Robin Edwards and David Nobling were killed in
a series of murders that are referred to commonly as
the Colonial Parkway murders, and this announcement confirms that.
Speaker 3: So I want to follow that up by continuing with
another statement that they made from Again, this is Karen Gellar,
She stated quote or we recognize this announcement has been
a long time coming, especially for the families of these victims.
What we do hope is to provide some closure to them,
and we recognize that there are still other families related
to the Colonial Parkway murders double homicide victims who are
still hoping for answers. That is why we continue to
push forward with our investigations. We are not ruling anything out.
We are examining other cases and pursuing new ones. Our
agencies are still working to reconstruct the movements and encounters
of Alan Wilmer Senior, which is why we are asking
for the public's help.
Speaker 4: Bill.
Speaker 3: What did you make of We are not ruling anything out.
We are examining other cases. We are pursuing new ones.
That's three interesting pieces of assertion right there.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate what Kareem Geller and the other spokespeople
are saying. I think this is quite important. First of all,
I am highly confident based on what I know about
Alan Wade Wilmer Senior. I think he will be linked
to other unsolved homicides in Virginia. I think he is
participation in at least some of the other Colonial Parkway murders.
Should be confirmed and fairly soon. He was a suspect
in the disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra Haley, and
that's an unavoidable fact. I know that the media is
starting to cover this idea that it's very curious that
the FBI and the renew State Police are not highlighting
that in their announcement, and I find it a bit
off putting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way we were talking earlier. I don't think
it's curious. I think that they're trying to hide the
fact that they screwed up very badly. The information about
Alan Wade Wilmer Senior and his early involvement as a
suspect in the disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra Haley
comes from the book of record on this case, A
Special Kind of Evil by our friend Blame Pardo.
Speaker 2: We're looking forward to having Blame Pardo on Mind Over
Murder with us in the very near future. I spoke
to Blaine this morning and he is more than willing
to come on and give us more background on his
reporting in A Special Kind of Evil. The Colonial Parkway
Serial Killings, the book that Blaine Pardo wrote with his
daughter Victoria Hester. If you don't own this book, I
urge you to buy a copy of it. It's available
online in both hard copy and in electronic form ebook
as well. We're going to be asking Blaine to come
on the show and talk to us. The short version
is that he confirms that this man, Alan Wade Wilmer Senior.
He doesn't mention him by name at this time, but
he mentions the license plate which he changes slightly because
he didn't want people to be taking it upon themselves
to be looking up this guy's license plate information and
perhaps harassing an innocent man. He was a suspect from
the very beginning of the investigation into the disappearance of
Keith Colin Cassandra Haley. Very odd that this was not
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Speaker 3: Now. When Special Agent in Charge Brian Dugan of the
FBI stood up to speak at the press conference, he
did go into great detail as to what precisely he
is asking the public to look for when they send
in tip information. I want to quote for a moment
here from sac Dugan on behalf of the FBI. I
want to express my sincere condolences to the victims' families.
That is why we're asking the public to take a
good look at the suspects photos. If you had any
encounters with him or his vehicle or his watercraft, hunted
with him, farmed oysters or clams docked next to him,
spent time with him on a personal basis we want
to hear from you. We are also interested in hearing
from the public about areas where Wilmer was working as
a fisherman and as a tree cutter, locations where he
may have been known to hunt, or bars, clubs and lounges.
He frequented a piece of information, no matter how small,
could be useful to investigators. He gives all the information
about the tip lines, which we'll put up on our
show notes, and then he had this very interesting thing
to say here. We recognize relationships and loyalties change over time,
as do people and their perspectives. There are occasions when
people who may have had information of a crime do
not feel comfortable coming forward with that information. This may
have been due to relationship with the persons involved, or
out of concern for their own safety, reputation, or standing
amongst friends. Even though mister Wilmer is deceased, we want
you to know it is not too late to come forward.
And again he repeats the FBI tip information.
Speaker 2: And that FBI tip line is one eight hundred call
FBI or submit a tip online at tips dot FBI
dot gov. You also have the option, if you choose
to want to somebody from the Virginia State Police. You
can email them at Questions at VSP dot Virginia dot gov.
And we really want to encourage people if you know
anything about this man. Now is the time. I thought
sac Dugan's remarks were very well thought out, and I
totally agree with him. We've heard this in other cases.
Over time, relationships change, People get married, they get divorced,
people are born, people die, people get older, and calm down.
I'm still working on the calming down part. People have
said to me even today online that some of them
were reluctant to come forward, and all I can say is, look,
I get the fact that this man is never going
to be brought into court. He's never going to be
found guilty, punished, incarcerated. But there are still people, my
own family included, who are still waiting for answers. We're
thrilled that Robin Edwards, David Nobling, and Teresa Howell's family
have some answers. It's never going to bring their loved
ones back. The rest of the Colonial Parkway murders families
and other families I believe throughout Virginia are still looking
for answers in their unsolved murders and disappearances, and I
think this man is involved in those cases. There is
no question. At this point he's been confirmed with three kills.
We're dealing with a Virginia based serial killer. Now would
be the time to step forward and say, yeah, I
used to dock my boat in Gloucester and that guy
had this very distinctive fishing boat, the Denny Wade. It
has very splashy painting on the side with the names
of the two kids, Denny Wade. That would have been
memorable not to mention as we talked about his trucks,
his physical stature, his look. I think sac Dugan makes
a really good point that even though he's gone, there
can be so much value created with people coming forward
now and speaking to law enforcement. People can speak to
law enforcement without incriminating themselves. They can say I want
to tell you the story, but I don't want to
be charged for something, or look the fact that you
were involved in something that might have been questionable, whether
it's underage drinking or drug use or whatever. Law enforcement
is trying to solve these cases. Do not charge people
for ancient offenses that happened decades ago. If you knew
this man back in the nineteen eighties. Now's the time
to step forward exactly.
Speaker 3: And sac Jiggan made a good point about no piece
of information being too small. So Okay, maybe you only
docked your boat next to his, maybe you only ever
ran into him when you were cutting trees after Hurricane Hugo.
That is still information that the FBI needs to know.
You do not have to have knowledge of Alan Wilmer
Senior committing a crime to call in or write to
the tip line. Right now, they need the best fullest
picture possible of what this guy was doing, where he
was going, who he was hanging with. As Bill pointed out,
he is a serial killer. The current definition of a
serial killer is two or more kills. He fits that criteria.
There was a serial killer roaming this area of Virginia
from nineteen eighty six until the day he died in
twenty seventeen. We have to know what he was doing
during that time period. And the more people that come
forward with information, the better able the Bureau is going
to be to put together a picture of other potential
victims that may have been impacted by this guy. And
I think you're right, Bill, I think that there are
going to be other cases in the Colonial Parkway murders
that are ultimately going to be linked to this guy.
And I'm wondering if the other Parkway adjacent cases that
we have seen in recent years, like Lorien Powell and
Brian Pettinger, I'm wondering if they aren't going to be
linked to him too in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite possible. One of the things that's really
important to emphasize, Alan Wade Wilmer Senior had no arrest record.
He'd never been convicted of a crime, even though this
guy was involved in multiple murders. And I think there'll
be murders outside the Colonial Parkway murders, as you said,
that can be linked to him. Something as simple as
I remember him being at my hunt club, or he
came and cut down trees on my father's property, or
whatever it is. Remember, the investigators know what they're looking for.
They're looking to place him at certain times and locations,
and that may ultimately steer them towards creating a backstory
on where this man was. I recognize that this is
incredibly challenging for the investigators to be trying to rebuild
this history. Thirty seven years later, every single bit of information.
If you know anything about this guy, I've already heard
some very interesting stories which will be urging those people
to pass on to law enforcement. Failing that, I will
if I have to just get the information to law
enforcement so that they have this information.
Speaker 3: We also want to encourage any one who has ever
reached out to us with a story about an incident
that occurred to you on the Colonial Parkway. If you
have a feeling that the person that you saw on
the Colonial Parkway, the person who's truck you encountered, was
Alan Wade Wilmer Senior, please reach out to the investigators
and let them know so that they can place him
on the parkway. It is very important that we determine
whether or not he was out trolling the Colonial Parkway
during this time period. If so, that might be an
even better and closer connection to putting him in the
location and vicinity of the murders on the Parkway, that
of Kathy Thomas and Rebecca Dowski, Keith Call and Cassandra Haley. So,
if you have given us that information about run ins
on the Parkway in years past, we thank you very
much for that, but we encourage you to please take
that information as well and get it to law enforcement
in what to reform you feel comfortable it is vital
that they have this information.
Speaker 2: We don't mean to ignore the Anna Maria Phelps and
Daniel Lower murder that occurred in August nineteen eighty nine,
resulting in their bodies being found at the Hunt Club
off Interstate sixty four in New Kent County. This is
something that law enforcement is also very interested in because
obviously he fits the profile and now we have a
confirmed serial killer in Virginia. I know it's shocking, and
we're still absorbing this information ourselves. We don't know of
any additional links that he has to my sister Kathy
Thomas and Rebecca Dowski's murder, or the murder New Kent
County rest stop and Hunt Club, Anna Maria Phelps and
Daniel Lower. There's clearly a link to the disappearance of
Keith coll and Cassandra Haley, and I know they're going
to be working those angles hard in the coming weeks
and months and will be definitely reording back on what
we're learning, what we're hearing. We're looking forward to having
blamed Pardo on the podcast. It's long overdue to talk
about his work in the Colonial Parkway murders and you know,
get into some backstory with him as well. On this
new he's more than a suspect. He is a confirmed
serial killer.
Speaker 3: Twenty four hours on. It's been a wild ride. Again.
We want to thank everybody who has reached out, who's cheered,
who's shared all of our updates. Thank you for your
unwavering support. We are trying very hard to answer questions
and comments as they show up on our various pages.
Mind never Murder and Colonial Parkway murders. It's been a
deluge and it may take us a little bit to
get through all of those comments and questions. Please be
patient with us and know that we are seeing everything.
We are trying to respond to it where possible, but
a little bit. It's like trying to empty the ocean
with a symbol. At the moment, there's a lot there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I said something to Kristin yesterday, which is
all I can say regarding the Edwards, Nobbling and Howell families,
is that we're thinking of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a greeting card available out there
that says congratulations on finding out who killed your loved one.
It's just one of those situations where you just don't
know what to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The main picture on the Daily Press this morning
was a picture of Jeanette Edward Santiago, Robin's sister, at
the press conference yesterday, and it broke my heart ye
to see it. I know that she's thrilled to have
this information, and it's got to be a relief that
it doesn't bring Robin or David or Teresa back, and
I know that's got to be difficult for them. So
while we're thrilled on their behalf, we know that they're
probably dealing with a crazy amount of emotion right now.
And their family statement at the press conference did ask
for people please to extend them their privacy, and the
same went for the Howell families, and the same went
for the Wilmer family, who I'm sure is dealing with
an absolutely awful shock of learning who their father actually was.
I think, at the end of the day, what I'm
carrying with me and will continue to carry with me,
is the fact that we have two cases that are solved,
they have answers, and I'm I was a little afraid
I wasn't going to see the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah for real.
Speaker 3: So thank you to everybody who has continued to hang
in there with us, who is following our Facebook pages
and all of our social media. Please keep it up
and please it is so vitally important share all of
the information that we put up about this suspect. And
if you have information, please do not hesitate to go
to any law enforcement tipline that is available to you.
We will put all that information up on our show notes.
Speaker 4: We can't thank everybody enough.
Speaker 3: It's been a roller coaster, but I like roller coasters,
so hey, I'm willing to go for the ride on
this one.
Speaker 4: Fair enough.
Speaker 3: That is going to do it for this episode of
mind Over Murder. Thank you so much for listening, and
please stay tuned for more updates on the Colonial Parkway
murders and the Parkway adjacent cases. Thank you so much
for listening. We'll see you next time.
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