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coming in at number seventh just your initial reaction.
Speaker 4: So I was so floored that it actually we came
in at seventh, Like, I think that's where we should be,
but I didn't. I had no I thought maybe eight
was the peak. I thought we'd be somewhere between eight
and ten. I was hoping eight, but the fact that
we were seven was just super surprising for me. So
I think it's the right place. Truthfully, I just didn't
think that the committee would be brave enough to do
it so, and then it's fun to have have TechEd
right behind us there and the matchup for this week's
gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3: And then Utah being at thirteen.
Speaker 4: I think one thing I have to remember with that though,
is they are thirteen, but that's not counting the ACC
team that's gonna be end and obviously the group of
five teams. So the really at fifteen if you're looking
at it from where are they apt to get into
the playoffs themselves.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you broke that down because a lot
of peop people like, oh, well, Utah is at number thirteen.
It's like, yes they are, but like you mentioned, group
of six still gonna get in, and again, the ACC
team that wins the conference championship will get in. Now
they've removed that the top four teams and the conferences
get buys, just the top.
Speaker 2: Four teams ranked in general.
Speaker 1: They're doing that because they want more SEC and Big
ten teams to get buys. They didn't like seeing Arizona
State get the buy and lose the texts even though
they should probably win the game, and in Boise State lose.
De Penn State got outplayed in that game. So you
bring up with a very valid points, so they are fifteen,
still in the outskirtch looking at it.
Speaker 2: Let's continue on that topic.
Speaker 1: I've seen all this morning and even last night after
these rankings came out, and it's still going on right now.
People are saying that three Big twelve teams will get in.
I could see two at the max, but I just
don't know. I don't I looking at Utah like if
you're a two lost team and you don't go to
the title game, and I mean this happened to BYU
last year, right had two losses, didn't go to the
title game, four way tie and had the to the
schedule from Colorado and they missed out.
Speaker 2: And I think Utah's in that same position.
Speaker 1: Do you think three teams get into the cos Football
Playoff or the Big Twelve?
Speaker 4: I think the only way three teams get in is
if somehow, if we lose this week, Utah gets into
the Comfort Championship and so there's where a one loss
team and then they play Tech again in the Comfort Championship.
Speaker 3: Game, and then Utah wins, so they're automatically in.
Speaker 4: And then you have a one loss Tech team, a
one loss BAU team before the comfort championship game. I
think that's the only way we get three in. Do
I think that's gonna happen. Probably not, But I do
think that is a route for it to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring up a very good point. If what
you have to run a table, then have that one
loss come in the title game, because Tech already has
one loss, and I just don't think you can afford
to have two Big twelve teams, excuse me, three Big
twelve teams get in with multiple losses.
Speaker 2: When I look at the ramas, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The only way, Yeah, the only one happens if if
we lose this week to Tech but then went out
and didn't make it to the championship game because of breakers,
whatever happens, you know at that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then if that could happen. But I don't eve
think that happens anymore. I think the Cincinnati game made
that's what It's not possible. So now that I'm thinking
about it, I don't. Yeah, I don't know that there's
there's a way that we get three teams in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a way because with Cincinnati losing,
b Au beats them, and if they were to lose
a Tech and run the table in Tech. Is that
two lost team that gets in, because I still think
they would value Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: So I think two at the max. That's a good point.
And I mean, look, here are the teams, guys. I'll
give it to you, Braiden. Oregon's at nine seven to one,
nor to TAM's at two, I mean ten to six
and two, Texas at eleven seven and two, Oklahoma is
at seven and two, and then like you said, you
Tah thirteen, but they're really fifteen.
Speaker 2: Even then, look who's behind him.
Speaker 1: Virginia is at eight and one, Louisville's a seven and one,
and then Vanderbilt is at seven and two, and then
Georgia Tech at eight and one. There's no way, Braidon,
that they're gonna put a Utah or Texas Tech, or
even if it was BYU, score all three of them
over Texas, Oklahoma, Virginia, Louisville, vanderb Georgia Tech.
Speaker 2: I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The only thing that I was very impressed with, and
maybe it's because we have the commissioner or whatever you
call the chair is a big twelve guy.
Speaker 3: But the fact that.
Speaker 4: Those three teams are all in above the ACC teams
the one loss teams shows how much respect there for
BYU and TECH. The fact that Utah has two losses
and they're still above those one loss teams because their
two losses were BYU in TECH. So I thought that
was pretty pretty insightful of what the committee thinks of
those three teams.
Speaker 1: Truthfully, do you feel like the national media is setting
it up for BYU to fail? Though? I hate to
go conspiracy, but top ten match up b YU goes
love and you laugh because you know I'm going with this, like, Okay,
they're undefeated. We got to give them credit because they'ren defeated.
They've played well, but they got this true fresh and
you make them throw but he's really thrown. But Utah
is better. But they're higher rank, but they beat Utah.
They don't want to give credit, but they have to
because they can't talk out of both sides in their mouth.
I feel like they're kind of like setting the BUF. Okay,
you lose, see, I told you so.
Speaker 4: I told you well see, and I actually think the opposite.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put the other arguments there though, is that
the fact that they put Tech.
Speaker 4: Right behind UAU with one loss, and then Utah at
thirteen with two losses, one of them being to Tech,
one of them being the VYU. I think they cornered
themselves that if we lose the Tech this week, they
cannot drop us below Utah.
Speaker 2: That's a good point because I didn't think of that.
That's a good take.
Speaker 4: Because there's only one way that we can, Like, if
we lose the Tech, we're.
Speaker 3: Only we're losing your team that's right behind us. So yes,
they jump us.
Speaker 4: But then we can't drop below Utah because we have
the head to head. But they were giving Utah the
credit because they the only losses were to us in Tech.
Speaker 3: So I don't think we can drop a low Utah.
Speaker 4: So I think we have to stay in that twelve
range even if we lose this week.
Speaker 1: I think the only thing to add to your argument
maybe just to tweak it just a little bit. I
think the only way they dropped behind Utah is if
Utah were to blowout Baylor had back to back weeks
to blowout games, and I'm talking about like thirty five
Plow and then b YU were to get beat bad
by twenty five plus.
Speaker 2: If that were to happen, yees.
Speaker 3: Oh, you agree, I agree.
Speaker 4: If yeah, if they take it to the wire tech,
there's no way we drop a lot.
Speaker 3: But if we get whooped, then then yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: If he gets whooped, it definica. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening, not at all. I think
that's speaking of Well.
Speaker 4: We haven't lost the game by more than we haven't
lost the game by more than seven and since twenty
twenty three, so I don't see it happen either.
Speaker 1: You took the words right out of my mouth that
that's exactly what I was gonna pitch you. Hey, do
you see it getting beat by more than the ten
and a half point spread? They haven't lost, but you
just said, how do you have this game plan out?
Speaker 4: L J.
Speaker 2: Martin gonna play in this game? Per pete damil.
Speaker 4: I I mean, I'm a believer, you know this, This
is what I am. I think we're gonna go in
and win, but it's gonna be tough, and I think
I could see it go anywhere. I wouldn't be surprised
by either thing. But I really think people are doubting BYU.
And the thing when you look at the analytics, and
I'm gonna go off maybe on a little tangent here,
but everybody's like looking at the analytics and all the
different things and all the betting sites that are like
the you know, different metrics they're trying to do too
to to what's the word, try and project what you
should bet on.
Speaker 3: And those are great metrics.
Speaker 4: I understand why they use them, but the one thing
that I don't like about them is that's not the
actual job to be done of the football team. The
job to be done of the football team is to win.
And so we play a specific style of football that
doesn't play well into those metrics, because our goal isn't
to play well into metrics, it's to win games. And
so we'll shut it down and start running the clock
out middle the third quarter if we have to. That's
what we did this year. We're not we're not trying
to get stout points. We're not trying to get you
know also of some of those metrics up. And so
it's just hard because everybody's like, well, Bau's not playing
metrically as sound as the other teams. And I understand
they're not they really aren't. But they're winning and their
goal is to win and they're going at that. So
I really think we're getting undervalued. And I think I
think we're gonna come in and I think we're going
to hang. And I think there their offense and our
defense is going to be a matchup that I feel
like that's where the weakness is on their side and
the strength is on our side. I think we're going
to hold them a few points and then if our
offense can do something, if LJ is healthy enough.
Speaker 3: To actually run, I think Bear's gonna The hard thing
to know is Sam love It and.
Speaker 4: Kansas State's quarterback well Avery Johnson were both did really,
really well running, but they're both quick types. I'm and
tregued to see because Bear's a great runner, but he's
more of the power power quarterback running. I mean, treat
to see how that works. But I think that's that's
one of their weaknesses that I think we can score
on him. I really do think it's gonna be a
game that we win.
Speaker 1: Baron Morton does use his legs. He is a dual
threat quarterback. I don't want to sit there and make
it seem like he doesn't because he does running probably
not his favorite than He definitely is more of a
pocket passer than Will have it. But just are mind
fans Will Hamm and the backup quarterback that was Will
and dealing that had that came in on the road
environment against Utah and lit up that Utah defense. He's
out for the season with an ACL injury. Now the
backup to him when he got hurt seemed like he
played very well. But Barry Morton does like to stay
in the pocket, so we'll see what happens. But he
is injury prone, so you might ding him up in
this game. He didn't get dinged up against Kansas State,
but he's had problems staying healthy. So I like what
you talk about, and I look to your metrics to
give you credit to what you just said.
Speaker 2: I want to show you a lot of love there.
Speaker 1: BYU might not blow out teams, they might not run
up to score like Utah, and I bring up Utah
because they seem to be the team that does it
to habit.
Speaker 2: They did that in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 1: Look in that same note given BYU credit to support
the argument they haven't done that in they're a one
score games. And when you make a game close. Not
in the NFL, we're talking about in college football. Normally,
the team that's not turning over the football in those situations,
which is the less of by, they end up winning.
Speaker 2: Those games more likely.
Speaker 1: So if this is a one score game per the metrics,
and BOU is not turning the ball over and they
take away the ball at a high level, BYU is
likely to win this ball game. So I love that
you bring that up. That's a good point. That's a
good take there. Let's transition to a little basketball. Got
to talk to some who which as well, because basketball
season just started. Don't know if you had a chance
to catch the Villanova BYU game that took place on Monday,
But what was your initial reaction?
Speaker 2: AJ dropped twenty one in his first college game.
Speaker 4: Intel football seasons over basketball doesn't exist, Ronny, just kidding.
Speaker 3: No, I watched the game.
Speaker 4: I follow, but but it's it's definitely not as much
front of my mind as as bobus.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was fun to watch. It was.
Speaker 4: It was You still could see that there needs to
be some more cohesion, but I think that's to be
expected with the youth that we have with so many
new players coming on the team, But I think you
could see the talent there. Holy cow, we're gonna be
we have. It's just so weird seeing that, seeing BYU
logos with that much talent. But it's it's I'm super
excited for the season. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, like you said, chemistry issues, but I mean, look,
you got the number of watching him close out games.
I know fans have to be excited about that, and
watching as a media member, I'm like, man, have you
ever seen a player in bo U history since Jim
or maybe there's a few others going back in the
Dave Rose era, maybe Mark Pope taken over that could
close out games. Not like AJ, so excited to see
as that develops later on. Let's go back to I
guess just by elections in general. B YU football ranked
number eight, b YU basketball ranked number eight. This is
a great time in BYU athletics and for fans and
for us the team because Brad, we've never seen this before.
Like the BYU basketball broadcast was all pretty much by
you buy a j and Kevin Young football against Iowa
State RG three and Jason Benetti, who do a great job.
The broadcast is now favoring BYU it didn't in the past.
Its starting to make that shift. What's your take on that.
Speaker 4: It's it's true and I mean somebody said something the
last night. I'm't have to pull it up again, but
it said that, you know members of the church. Yes,
christ Abloty is two percent of the population. But we're
on track to win the clown college football National Championship,
the college basketball National Championship, the whatever they call the
Dancing Age thing, and then the final rows from the Bachelorette.
Speaker 3: And I just was dying because it's so true. Right now,
in the in the in the.
Speaker 4: Media, we're so front and center, and really we're getting
some of that publicity.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure it's so good for us because.
Speaker 4: As soon as that starts happening, I think the Board
of Trustees, which is the you know, the Apostle, they're
looking at this and saying, Okay, we're getting the name
out there.
Speaker 3: We can continue to allocate resources.
Speaker 4: Obviously they're not allocating the churches resources, but they're willing
to let us allocate the resources that we have available
to us to go and perform. And I think it's
a great thing that it's working because that is exactly
what they're using it for. And Ben always talks about
it being one of the best missionary tools, and I agree.
Speaker 1: It's definitely one of the best missionary tools. I want
to get your thoughts on this. Let's go back a
little bit further. How impactful was that COVID season. No
people maybe give negative energy at the national level. Some
of the people, well, Zach Wilson was a number two pick,
b aable to really play anybody. I thought that season
was amazing for BYU athletics because I feel like they're
at the point now because of what they did and
guys overachieved right with the circumstance that they had. I
feel like if it wasn't for that two thousand and
twenty twenty season BYU football Athletics right now would not
be where they're at basketball wise, you could say even
soccer wise, just as a whole, but specifically, you know,
the thing that drives the ship football that season. If
they didn't have that, I don't feel like they would
have this momentum right now.
Speaker 2: What say you?
Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty good take right there. I
hadn't thought about it. That way specifically.
Speaker 4: Obviously, the twenty twenty one season I think was huge,
but I feel like we got the invite to the
Big twelve right before that twenty twenty one season, so
it had to have been off coming off the twenty
twenty was when we were kind of proving ourselves to
the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: I mean, the real thing is the Big twelve. But
what helped trigger out it was the decades before that.
Speaker 4: But really that twenty twenty season was the last little
lynchpin that fixed that and made it top of mind.
So when expansion did come up that next year, we
were top candidate for that.
Speaker 3: So I think that's a pretty good take, Ronnie. I
like it.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I just I was thinking about that, you know,
this morning and planning out the show. I was like, wait,
that twenty twenty season, it's not getting a lot of
credit that deserves old they played, you know, Troy. Well, yes,
that is true. Both things can be true. But if
it wasn't for that season, what they have been invited
to the Big twelve? Would Zach Wilson had been drafted
with Jaron Hall have been drafted way Keaton Slovas still
be playing in the NFL like all of those like
that brings up to me Brady Christians, and you know,
you think of so many others, Blake Freeland, Casey Suelmatia,
like that propels BYU to.
Speaker 2: Where they're at.
Speaker 1: Even basketball, look at where they're like Kevin Young had
like five dudes played professionally and two of them like
really only got into the rotation in January and now
they're playing overseas. So to me, look, I think that
twenty twenty season football basketball really propelled BYU to where
it's at. And I'm giving Tom Homo a tip of
the cap and Bryan Santiago for continuing it because look,
right now, BYU I think has all the momentum for
football and basketball in the Big twelve. I would say
Texas Tech is probably right behind it. And I'm talking
about momentum, and it's amazing to watch right now.
Speaker 2: Brandon, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: I agree. It's been. It's been. It's the best I
mean in my lifetime, no question. But I think it's.
Speaker 4: Truthfully the best time to ever be a Cougar fan. Like, yes,
the eighties and football people are gonna think back and
remember it in such good ways. And I'm sure it was,
wasn't there, but that both the football and the basketball
team where they're at right now, I just don't think
it's ever been that way, and in BA.
Speaker 3: Football history or BYU athletics history.
Speaker 2: It has not. It's the most wonderful time of the year.
Speaker 1: I always said, it's the most time wonderful time for
me because I'm Dug deep man into the football basketball
looks Saturdays top ten matchup b YU takes on Texas Tech,
and then later at night you can work your way
down to MC to De Mari out to see BAU basketball.
Right now, you're thriving if you're a BYU fan. I
didn't get a chance to ask you this though. What
did the family dress up as last week for Halloween?
How was the Halloween for the day family?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: So we were My kids were, My boys were BA
football players, my girls were by cheerleaders.
Speaker 3: My wife was just the BAU fan, and I was
I was the BA football coach. That's that and everything. Yeah,
we're crazy, I know.
Speaker 4: No, No, I don't know if if I've ever mentioned
this on the show, but we've adopted. I don't remember
who started about the the Cougar day. So the very
first game of the season. We have Cosmo comes the
night before and brings gifts and everything right before the
first first game of the season, and the kids wanted
to get wanted to ask Cosma for football and cheerleading costumes,
and we're like, well, that's great, but we have to
use them for Halloween because Cosmo can't bring it just
for that cougar Dan and so they agreed, and so
that's what we got to do with it.
Speaker 2: So love that.
Speaker 1: I love that you guys are bought into the spirit.
You know Ben's family, they were out there during the
bye week at Disneyland. They dressed up as Toy Story.
We went the Monsters Ink Ground, you know, had Little
Jersey dressed up as Baby Sully. So love that everybody
buys into Halloween. I mean, we're getting into Thanksgiving now,
so I got a way to ask those questions. Don't
want to be prematurely, but just knowing the coming weeks. Myself, Ben,
we're gonna ask you about you know, Thanksgiving food, Christmas
is around the corner, and Brad, I mean you lived
here in Utah a good amount of time as myself.
Speaker 2: The weather is really nice for November, right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was super cold and end of October, but
we're right now November is looking decent.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I didn't have to.
Speaker 1: Wear a jacket yesterday as much as I thought. Gotta
love that Brandon. Before I'll let you go one more time.
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