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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Last

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of Us Reviews, Season two, Episode two. I'm the Hole

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in one trust now and I'm joined.

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Speaker 2: By I'm the Golver kirkle pat Sir.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we are here to talk about Last of Us.

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It's just me and Kirkling night. Taylor is still covering

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from his injuries. I guess Dylan's got family dinner and yeah,

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a whole bunch of weird scheduling and whatnot because of

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Easter and wrestling, and luckily didn't think I was gonna

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be able to make it. Can make it now because

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wrestling was shorter tonight, which was nice on me and

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the boys. But yeah, check out that Me and the

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boys on the Gimmick just review the two nights WrestleMania

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this week. Me, Taylor, Kirkland, we got and we're coming up, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, talking about blog So.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready for that, but we got that coming up.

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reviewed Sinners. That was really good conversation and fun checking

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especially those years I haven't seen as many like continually.

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into it, says as always, nonspoort thoughts up top. We'll

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break it down and then we'll give a little break,

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so you know, if you want to bow out, come come,

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come back and talk some spoils and stuff. So, mister Pats,

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I have a feeling we're not gonna have a long

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non spoils discussion because I think this episode is tough

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to dance around. But what do you want to say? Uh?

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What you can non spoilers.

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Speaker 2: Uh, non spoiler yeah, non spoiler Wise, I think this

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was just a just a stellar episode. This really like

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big HBO, you know, budget showcase episode, and I was

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definitely satisfied with what we got. Visually. I think it

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was just a really really good looking episode, just the

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way that, yeah, like they crafted a lot of just

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the the certain shots in this episode. I was just

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so amazed by reminding me of some legendary sequences of

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the past. As I speak in riddles here, But no,

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slugger of a hit compared to last week. I think

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last week I had a like a lot of just

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questions and uncertainties, especially just looking at it as a

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one episode drop. I think, you know, HBO will never

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do it, but I think I definitely would have been

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happy with the episode one to two drop all at once,

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just to I don't know, this just feels like a

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more complete package now, but yeah, no it was. I

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really don't have much more to say beyond that, non

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spoiler wise here, so I think i'll just pass up

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pass the baton to you there and uh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to talk about this episode because there's

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stuff that I was waiting to talk about, and there's

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for the wrest of the game, but there's there's certain

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things that happened in this episode that are really the

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kickoff to what happens in the second game. And then

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it's like, okay, now we can talk a bit more

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about differences of the show and the game and kind

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of the context of what's going on. Again, very well

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made show, well crafted show, very well acted show. As always,

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these people just deliver tenfold, And yeah, there's there's there's

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a big sequence that I'm not as big as a fan.

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saw Mike and or discord he had no problems with it.

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it's it's not even nick picky. It's just that it's

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tough when it's just I don't know, if you like

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two flavors of ice cream, there's still one you're gonna

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like more, right, And if it's like, oh, I like

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of like a pizza topic or something. But it's just

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tough because it's like you like both of them, but

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you know there's one that you like more. And if

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but I still prefer it that way. And it's always

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have done that I preferred in the other medium. But

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the big stuff going on here. We'll get Taylor stats

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next week. As far as you know the juxtaposition where

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you guys are is a video game not player, So

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our non video game player don't know why sevieo game

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not player of just last So specifically, I'm not like

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shitting on their skills or anything. They don't play video games.

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see these full and adaptions to go from there. But yeah,

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a big moment, and there's certain things that aren't in

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the game, and I say that I did enjoy even

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more as far as some imagery going on. So yeah,

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I got nothing more to say. Nonspats, whyse you get anything?

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Speaker 1: All right, ladies Jones. So if you've not seen the

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episode and you do not play the games, definitely do

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not go for it. If you have any interest, you're

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gonna get into some big, big spoilers. So we're gonna

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take this ad break and then we'll be right back

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and we're back. So you know, Kirkland, tonight was a

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very tough night for your boy because you know, WrestleMania tonight,

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I had to watch my guy Cody Rhodes lose the

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Championship tonight. So that was tough after year long rain.

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And then here I am again, as I've said, we'ren spoilers,

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had to watch Joel Miller get killed the fucking second time,

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you know, you know, brutal all.

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Speaker 2: That happens in the game. Oh I thought that was

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the devation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, l But yeah, I'm gonna start with you because

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you had you heard any inkling of this before?

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leading up to I think it was even just after

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like season one finished, I was just seeing like online

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posts or like memes and people just being like, oh,

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I'm not ready for season two because I'm gonna have

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to relive this moment. And like I never saw an

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image of like a dead Joel or anything, but like, like,

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who else could that really be? Like really, like, you know,

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any marketing material. I feel for at least what I

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saw around last was Part two, like the video game.

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a good detective. But I feel like that was the

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world's war kept secret leading into it. Now. It didn't

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like help the moment at all, especially me. I honestly

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of the season. I obviously didn't think he was gonna

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be making it out the whole thing, but uh, yeah,

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to have that happen in episode two, especially with it

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already being like a very like this is like you

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the Town and like that's that's a good ass episode,

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you know, Like I would have been pretty happy with that,

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but pairing this massive character moment, that's like, you know,

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we went on this whole journey with the entire season

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one people that played the game, like that whole adventure,

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to here we are, second episode in season two and

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we're just killing off his character. And I am curious

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if we're gonna be getting like more Pedro like just

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that's like a game thing that happens if Elly interacts

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with them post post mortem modem, post mortem mortem, But yeah,

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I I think they did just a stellar job of

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building the tension, and like, I have no idea how

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but I think how they did it here was really good.

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of like a Game of Throne moment when like I

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know something absolutely horrible is gonna happen and I'm like, oh,

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tip my hat because it's just well well crafted and

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they're provoking that emotion out of me, so I know

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that they're doing something right. And uh yeah it it

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was a gut punch moment. So uh yeah, rest in peace,

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Joel Miller. And uh Abby, Abby is the new bad guy.

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new bad guy thing, right, because so there's multiple things

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sure the first time you see Joel, I can't remember

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if the dance happens or not to have to go back,

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but it's like it might be it's either one of

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says Abby. And at this point you just know Abby

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and Owen and the team are looking for something. They

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see the city when the game nothing about her being

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like that's her dad. There nothing about Joel killing the fireflies,

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and it's just this is a random group of survivors

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heading their way and stuff like that. So they say Abby,

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whole that whole scene say play the same way. They

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go to the cabin, and then they say Joel has

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some line like oh, you guys seem like you know

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us because actually in the game it's Joel and Tommy,

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it's not Joel and Dina. So and what happens and

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just little changes, but like they beat the ship and

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have Tommy and knock him out instead of this very

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confluente like I have this needle and knock her out

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for one hour, okay, it was like just fuck yeah,

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just hit her with a gun and that's like, why

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do you even do that? But that's one thing I

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will say that in the game, other than i'd say Owen,

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most of the group's a lot more like yeah, fuck,

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like let's get Joel where this they made it more

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they're a little iffy about it. And then the game

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the same thing. He turns around, he gets shot. They

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turn a kid his leg and she just says something like, oh,

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you know why I'm here, and he just says, ah,

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get to your fucking speech. And then like always says,

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do say the speech you've been rehearsing and then get

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it over with. And then she gets the club and

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then she says, you know, like not you know, it's

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not gonna be slow, old man, you super old man

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hits them and they cut to Ellie getting there, and

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then when they get their Jeel's pretty much already dead.

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just killing him instead of stabbing him in the neck,

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and then it's kind of over. So in the game,

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Abby's given her whole backstory, so one, I just felt

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not knowing Abby is gonna do this. I loved in

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the game if you just meet this girl and then

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all of a sudden, she's just fucking killing Joel. And

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even when they killed Joel, you never hear, like you

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don't get to hear that side of the story. You

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never know why they killed Joel for a while. And

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then later on in the game they get to a

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point where Abby like something happens. I won't say, but

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something happens with Abby. And then what happens is in

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the game you're playing as Ellie and you switch over

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and play as Abby because you go all the way

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back five years and you play as Abby, and then

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they're like, oh fuck, this is the like this was

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her dad is who Joel killed. So you don't find

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out till like halfway through the game Abby's motivations. So one,

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I just liked that better of just like I thought,

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I thought it was just weird to open up with

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lassos bic, I'm gonna kill Joel, and then the next

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episode like she kills Joel, like it just kind of

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like it streamlines it. So I feel like, obviously it's

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different for you because you had an idea, so I

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want to help you had zero idea. I don't know

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if Taylor did, but like, I just like that idea

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of the shock and awe better and then two with

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it being so drawn out, and she does like say

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that in the game, like hey, I'm I'm not gonna

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make it like it's going to be slow. But in

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the game it's one hit and then they cut to

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you know, Ellie find him and he's you know, die

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on the ground and hit in the head with this.

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Because you said she's a new villain, and I agree

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with you. I thought in the video games they made

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her more sympathetic because at first they make her of

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the villain and then you finally like, man, Joel killed

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her dad and all her friends. I feel kind of

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bad about this and the tortures not on screen, but

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I feel like with this pacing and las like she

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hits his head like or hits her his leg like

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five times with the club. There's just a scene of

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her beating on his head. We're in the game, like

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some of that stuff happens, but it's all of screen,

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I feel like they've made her not really sympathetic at all.

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Like I feel like as me and Emily had seen

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me play a game the same thing, She's like, Oh,

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I just want Ellie to kill Abby. We're in the game.

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It's supposed to make you feel more like iffy about it,

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because it's like, oh, like, Abby also went through this trauma,

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so why should I want this? But I felt like

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they just they made her too villain ish and she

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shouldn't be right because technically Joel did kill innocent people

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and her dad. But for me, it was the pacing

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of the scene and how long it was, and and

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the pacing of how Abby's reveal was done. I didn't

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love it as much as the game because I just

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thought they've made her less sympathetic, and I feel like

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now everybody in the world it looked. It felt like

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a Megan Walking Dead thing where I feel like you

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ask most people, they're gonna be like, yeah, I want

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Ellie just to fucking destroy Abby, where it's like you're

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supposed to feel conflicted. So for me, that was my perspective.

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Scene wise, all great Diver was great in that scene,

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like her controlling her speech Pagro's good too, because he

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doesn't get to do much. He's just reacting. But and

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even all the other people, the side people that I

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always never know how to pronounce her name, but like

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tat to that girl from you, like she had some

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good facials. So the scene itself, what that was her

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last like, her name's not Tata Falcon, I know, yeah,

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a little Falcon, but so yeah, I still thought the

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scene was good and very well done and very brutal.

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The two ad ins I like is that they in

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the game when they kick Ellie, that knocks her out,

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so instead of her being like she's alive for when

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Joe gets a killing the bull, but they knock her out.

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So I love it when she crawled over and laid

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on them, that was like a add on. That was

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a great imagery of just her lying on this dead body.

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And then that last shot of the montage of being

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not her and I can never remember the boy the

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ex boyfriend's name, but they had the horse and you

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see Ellie look back like, oh did they leave him there?

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And then they pan out. It's like no, they're dragging

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this dead body and it's like, oh, I got chills now.

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So again not taking it down like, oh, this is

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shits just had some preferences, but they also added some

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really cool things to it or you know, morbidly cool thing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I think the scene was really well done,

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but I don't think they succeeded in and maybe they

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weren't trying to do it. I would hope they were

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trying to do it, but I feel like they didn't

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do a good enough job at making us, yeah, feel

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sympathetic towards Abby, like at least enough like they I

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feel like, do the absolute bare minimum. I feel like

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it's really on like Caitlin Deavers like acting that's like

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selling me on it the most, because she shows so

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much emotion and like pain over this murderer that just

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came in and like shot up eighteen people. That. Yeah, like,

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I'm assuming they knew them pretty well, let alone her father,

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who was just an unarmed doctor. So I I think

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it's like, Okay, that's that's the little piece right there

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that I should be latching onto. But I I don't

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think they I was gonna say, I don't think they

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evolved upon that enough. I'm assuming that'll come later on

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in the season, just like the trauma. I think that

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Abby kind of like witnessed that made it this way.

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But I feel like her I feel like just like

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psycho tendencies are like overweighing it though. I'm like the

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fact that she just straight up murdered, like tortured this person,

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Like it's one thing to just kill someone for revenge,

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like you know whatever. I mean, not whatever, there's laws

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in place, but in this, in this world, I get it. Yeah,

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it's what, it's it's whatever. It's an eye for an eye,

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But yeah, they like straight up torch to them, especially

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that like this guy's like whole city is just being

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like raided by zombie right now, and like probably everyone

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that he like knows and loves is just getting eaten

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alive from his point of view, like he's rushing to

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go save them, and like he's just getting tortured up

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on this hill top where like thinking about the pain

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that he's in and then also all of his his

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loved ones that could be just getting uh marked. So

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it just added to like, yeah, like the the nefarious

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nature to everything that was going on. So I think

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it's like a very one sided. Abby's a bad guy

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at least with how it's done in the show. Yeh,

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that's my take on it.

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Speaker 1: And in the game their cities not being attacked. It's

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just there out on a run and everything like that.

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So that's something that's different, and that's something where it's

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like that felt like okay for like he said, very

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Game of Thrones, HBO big battle, Like we're gonna have

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this big invasion, so be curious what they do after

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the fact. I wonder if they're gonna make it that

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that's how Ellie goes alone to go do some hunting

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because they're like, oh, our town is is rotten, so

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we can't you know, we can't go help you Ellie.

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But in the game, shit, I think she just pieces

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off like hey, I'm gonna go figure some stuff out

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and everything. But yeah, it's it's interesting and like that's

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that like that scene that they had her when she

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was like her young self was talking to her old self.

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That happens in the game. But that's just literally the

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flashback of when you're you play as Abby and you

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play that day when you find out and you see

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your dad, dad and everything like that. So they will

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touch upon it again. But that's the thing where the game, Yeah,

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they don't lay it out. You play as Ellie for

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a bit and then the halfway point you switch to

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Abby and it's a long track, but you literally play

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like those not like five years worth, but you play

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the five years out as Abby. There's some times skips,

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but and yeah, you don't play as Ellie for like

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a good twenty hours after it's just you're all Abby

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and stuff, which I did not like because I'm not

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a big prequel guy. So it's like I understood the

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point what they're going for in that game, and I

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thought that almost overdid it of Like, Okay, I get it,

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like Joel's a bad guy, I understand, Like, but yeah,

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so but there is stuff that you will see with

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Joel still, so I think that's how they can cheating

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self page or that there is flashbacks coming up. There's

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still some unresolved stuff so you will have that.

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Speaker 2: So nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I didn't think he was actually gonna

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I had a feeling just with the way things were going,

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but I was wondering if it was going to last longer, Joe,

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like when they add the therapist and some other like

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there's another episode right there. We got that rumor of

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that one off episode about the therapist and her husband

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that he's supposed to killed Eugene. Yeah, like he'll be

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back for that, So you got that stuff. But yeah,

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I actually thought it was gonna happen last week and

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it didn't, so I was really worried I was gonna

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have to spend a whole season just bouncing around this

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fucking a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's uh, even for me that

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didn't witness it in the video game, like because I

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knew it was coming. The best place to do it

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is probably early on the show, because I'm just gonna

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be like, oh, we're getting closer to it, We're getting

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closer to it, and then people like you that have

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played it are gonna be just as you said, dancing

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around the spoilers.

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Speaker 1: Plus the people that have no idea gives them more

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chance to accidentally be spoiled via like TikTok Instagram like oh,

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what episode do you think Joel will die? Joel's gonna die?

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What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: And like it really was a like a just excellently

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done scene like when when Abby is running away from

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the zombies just just great. Yeah, everything about it was

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so fantastically She's like crawling like behind that fence. There's

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just so much like tension with them, like breaking through

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the fence and just like almost getting her to finally

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getting away. And at first I thought it was yeah,

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I don't remember his name either, but the guy that

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went out on watch with Ellie, Like I thought that

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was the one that saved them. And then I thought

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it was gonna be Ellie like with him, like the

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one finding Abby before Joel. But yeah, as soon as

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they saw Joel there, I'm like, oh my god, I

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forgot he's actually on patrol right now, Like this is horrible.

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There's no way he's making it back to the town.

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And then yeah, I don't know. I thought they were

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going to like capture him and then just have a

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little bit more time with it, but they got They

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got right to it. That's why they were there, right,

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that's their whole mission. And then Abby's whole like four

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was pretty much just trying to convince her like that

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he admitted it, trying to convince her that we should

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just drop this mission and go back, but they got.

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Speaker 1: I got an idea, like I can't remember I got Abby.

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It's like, oh, whatever, go for a walk and Okay,

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I'll do that, and they're like, what's your idea. It's

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like my ideas, I'm gonna not gonna get her not

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to do it. I'm just like, could you have not

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done this? Like before we left? If I was that person, like,

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could you have done this before we left? Like we've

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fucking hiked miles? Let's get this one sing now, let's

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just kill him. So second obviously because the city and

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everything I get. That's why it's the second thoughts, right,

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because it's like, how can we pull this off? And

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just you know, a coincidence that Jual happens to be

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out there on patrol but not not the smartest the

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plan and yeah, same thing in the game. They meet

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like everybody out there in the wild. It's not just

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like Abby bringing them back. They bump into them all

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and stuff, so a little bit different. Not that you

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need that happening, because I'm sure they don't want to

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pay for all the fucking horses and hope that they

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you know, all work and everything. But yeah, no, uh,

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there's some point I was gonna make. But uh, well

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that's one thing with Abby too. That's where the other

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when you play through her, you get to see her

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as like the young little girl. And that's when when

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they start doing some time jumps, you see her like

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getting bigger and bigger, because that's her idea is she's

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training herself be a fucking weapon. So when she finds

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this guy, she's just gonna destroy him. And I still

471
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wish that was I still wish we had a bulking

472
00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:21,000
actress or something like that, But you know, I digress.

473
00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't need the muscles, you know, it's just

474
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,319
all the technique with those golf swings.

475
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the size of the club. It's all about the

476
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,440
size of the hard and the swinger, you know.

477
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, And then I think another thing that

478
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,680
I'm hoping i'll uh just enjoy more is well, like

479
00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:40,960
I guess the Abbey character. I don't have much with

480
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,799
her right now, but mostly just like her her crew

481
00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:45,680
around her, because as you as we're kind of just

482
00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:49,319
alluding to there is like I feel like, yeah, like

483
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,240
if I'm in her crew, like I need a little

484
00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:53,960
bit more. Then this is just a revenge mission to

485
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,960
go murder this guy. And like the logistics of how

486
00:21:57,039 --> 00:21:59,640
it's all gonna work, Like okay, like why are we

487
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,640
doing this? Get Like like I feel like all of us.

488
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,799
Speaker 1: Could friends too, like there, but.

489
00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: She's the only one that feels like this is the

490
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:09,079
Vendetta mission, like we're gonna fucking all of us are

491
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,240
gonna die or or or we're gonna win. And like

492
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,279
I just feel like at most, maybe like little Falcon,

493
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,319
like that character is like to the level of like extreme,

494
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,680
like he gets a little heated when Ellie h slashes

495
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,279
up his face. He wants to just kick the shit

496
00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:24,799
out of her. But like I feel like every other

497
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,960
character there, like you have like the nurse lady that

498
00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:30,640
just seems like so timid and like does not want

499
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,359
violence at all. She's like bawling her eyes out when

500
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,480
Abby's just going to town on Joel. But I guess

501
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,240
I just need a little bit more like firefly stuff.

502
00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: But you'll get there. You'll definitely get yeah, Okay, yeah.

503
00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:48,319
And that's why because especially they've said that the game

504
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,319
is gonna be splitting the two parts, there's like another

505
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,440
point in the second game they could kind of maybe

506
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,440
have like a cliffing or ending and whatnot. So there's

507
00:22:55,559 --> 00:22:57,799
lots of if they I don't know how they're necessarily

508
00:22:57,839 --> 00:22:59,759
gonna tell the story because like I said, that's what happens.

509
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:03,160
Where you start from Elli in present day, Joel gets killed,

510
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,599
stuff happens, and then they switch over to Abby, and

511
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:07,599
then you go back and you play from Abby until

512
00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:09,640
always she gets back to that big point. So I'm

513
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,240
not sure if they're gonna how they're gonna riddle the

514
00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:15,039
flashbacks out, because I understand you couldn't and I do

515
00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:16,720
agree appeal you couldn't do that the same way of

516
00:23:16,759 --> 00:23:18,839
the TV show just completely go back. I just think

517
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,319
there are certain ways you could have withheld Abby's story

518
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,519
until now and then maybe, like to me, even like

519
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:25,759
one episode to tell Abby's story, like we get all

520
00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:28,839
the time episodes of just like here's a character episode, right,

521
00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:31,920
I think like we just reviewed a show recently that

522
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,759
had that, didn't it that we enjoyed. It's not Dared Evil.

523
00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:38,160
I thought there's something within last year, but I'd digress.

524
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,559
So I don't want to take too much time thinking

525
00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:41,400
about But I enjoy shows that.

526
00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:48,039
Speaker 2: What was Penguin? But I'm just trying to think there's

527
00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:51,359
things that held together and I thought maybe.

528
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: It was a Disney thing. I don't know, but I

529
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:54,920
can enjoy an episode and that's where it's like if

530
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,119
you were to do all those Abby flashbacks or whatnot

531
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,519
in one episode and tell that kid, like to me,

532
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:02,799
it would be you kill her all. You kill them

533
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,119
right here, and I feel we just talked about this fuck.

534
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,119
I'm trying to think of what it is. But you

535
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:11,279
kill Joel off here, and then the next episode is

536
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:14,240
like the Abbey flashback where you completely see things from

537
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,240
her side of point of view, like reveal Joel's the

538
00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:19,720
killer of her dad, other stuff, her relationship with Owen

539
00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:21,440
and these others and how it plays them too. So

540
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,440
but I guess they're may just gonna sprinkle them or

541
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,799
just constantly flashback. I don't know that's what's gonna be interesting.

542
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,839
So yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think there's anything else

543
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,960
on Joel and Pedro.

544
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: But uh yeah. The other thing that I I think

545
00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,839
I was just a little bit confused on my U

546
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,359
where my emotions are at in this moment is like

547
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,319
I just don't know all of the uh like the

548
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,440
players in play that like are affected by this other

549
00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:55,680
than just like Joel, like immediate people around him, like

550
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,759
the Tommies of the world. I think it was also

551
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,440
just weird for me because I was wanting like another

552
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,559
scene between Ellie and and Joel but before this moment happened.

553
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:08,000
I guess that just doubles down on how horrifying it is,

554
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:09,799
because like they weren't in a good place and then

555
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:12,799
now they'll just never have an opportunity to kind of

556
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:17,400
like you know, pave pave that way. Uh, just whatever

557
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,079
I'm trying to say. So, I yeah, I'm I I

558
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,359
think it was just great performances there, but I'm just

559
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,079
want to know what happens now, Like are we gonna

560
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:28,720
be hunting down Abbey now? Is this gonna be just

561
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,839
like you know, a never ending you murder me, I

562
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,880
murder you, and then and then I'm gonna murder the

563
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,839
next person. Then you're gonna murder the next person. Like

564
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,960
like where does this end? And they're kind of situated

565
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,640
in Seattle? Is that what they said the militia?

566
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, oh, you can come to Seattle, but I

567
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,079
thought you're gonna make it there. It's like, well, you know, shit,

568
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,400
you're about to kill me. I get it.

569
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then where's our team right now? Like we're

570
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,400
I feel like pretty far from that, aren't we? What

571
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,279
team Jackson? Is that what it's called? The town.

572
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: Oh, you mean like from Seattle to like Jackson, And yeah,

573
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,759
I think that's Afar. I don't know for sure, but.

574
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: I think Jackson, like what even is? Like what state

575
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:05,119
are they in?

576
00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know.

577
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,039
Speaker 2: You played the game, assume you would know.

578
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,559
Speaker 1: I literally Emily said we have to go vote at

579
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,000
Parkinson Rec Center and I said, what's that? And she's like,

580
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:15,920
you've lived your twenty years long on me. How do

581
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,400
you not know? Like I don't. I'm bad with geography.

582
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:21,759
So let's see Jacks some questions.

583
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: But like, I don't know if that's a it's probably

584
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,440
not a fictitious Wyoming Wyoming.

585
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: It's in Wyoming. So that's saying to Seattle. That's the

586
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,759
drive time. That's a fifteen hour drive. And I don't

587
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,759
think cars work as much a team.

588
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: We're just marching this whole way. And then they're like, Okay,

589
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,839
we got to convince her that we're going to go back.

590
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: That's fifteen hours drive time converted to walking. Let's can

591
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:47,480
you just.

592
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:50,079
Speaker 2: Click the little pedestrian on like Google Maps.

593
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: I did. I don't think that's going to give me

594
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,440
that there, I'm I'm on, let me take a look

595
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,920
here oh maybe there is. Drive, No, it's not doing I.

596
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 2: Guess it wouldn't be a common option.

597
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:05,519
Speaker 1: So well, yea walking, Oh there is.

598
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:07,559
Speaker 2: Okay, here's popular walking routes.

599
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,799
Speaker 1: So if you cycle, that's four days. So do you

600
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:11,440
think do you.

601
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,599
Speaker 2: Think what's gonna it's like snow time?

602
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: Well, right, they were walking, But I'm gonna say, for

603
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,480
Ellen crew, if they would go to Seattle, do you

604
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:23,599
think horseback and cycling equal to me about the same thing?

605
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: Hmmm, because like cycling wouldn't be like all terrain like

606
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,359
a horse would. So cycling make it more because you

607
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,480
have to go like a more general route.

608
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Right, because there's some stuff you can't you can't go

609
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:39,480
through a horse you could cut through some stuff. So

610
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,839
the day it's a walking distance is an estimated sixteen days,

611
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,880
so pretty much a day for an hour. Like when

612
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680
it said fifteen hour fifteen hour drive, I said day

613
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,880
for an hour. Yeah that way, So that's actually not

614
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,119
like like, don't get me wrong, if you're telling me, hey,

615
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,880
trust you gotta walk to you know, see you out,

616
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,319
I'm right now, big Oh that's awful. But in the

617
00:27:58,519 --> 00:28:02,480
post apocalyptic I'm out for yeah II sixteen days, two weeks,

618
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:03,799
I can do that to go kill the guy to

619
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,000
kill my dad, you know, but then going back still Yeah,

620
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,400
but yeah, you know that's what not two weeks and

621
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,319
two days. That's not too bad. Yeah, go kill your

622
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,039
father's killer.

623
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Another thing that I forgot to mention that I don't

624
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,200
I don't think it helped my my being in Abby's

625
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,440
camp here is I also just think that the way

626
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,599
that the scene is played out in season one with

627
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:32,559
the Fireflies like taking Ellie and it being like like yeah,

628
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,920
like they're just gonna Yeah, it's like a really like

629
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,759
dark sequence that I feel like in that moment they

630
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:41,000
are just kind of enemies, you know, like like to

631
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:42,640
the viewer's eyes, like through.

632
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,319
Speaker 1: Her blood could save everybody.

633
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: Though yeah, I know, I'm just saying like the way

634
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,920
that that scene plays out, I never feel like, oh

635
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,440
my god, he's just murdering civilians here, like this is

636
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,599
like we have to save Ellie, like that's the goal.

637
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:57,759
So I think I'm just carrying that into season two.

638
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:59,720
And then I see this the moment where they're like

639
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,119
vengeane these characters that I thought were just the enemy

640
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,680
from last season. So I don't know, it's uh, I

641
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,279
guess there's probably something there for maybe how Ellie's angry

642
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,000
about stuff that's going on.

643
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,759
Speaker 1: You a line in real life if it comes back

644
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:17,480
to something.

645
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,799
Speaker 2: Like, well, Travis, and they said that they weren't gonna,

646
00:29:20,839 --> 00:29:22,720
you know, hurt you, and then I and then I

647
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:23,279
say that you.

648
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:24,759
Speaker 1: But then whuld you feel bad if I woke up

649
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,440
and said like, yeah, you should have killed me. I

650
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,759
should have had the like gave everyone the cure.

651
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: Maybe, but like, let me live with that decision at

652
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,319
that point.

653
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: You know, we'll cross that bridge when that happens, and

654
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,160
I get kidnapped at some point, so it's good to know. Yeah,

655
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,240
I don't think about it because it's an awkward situation.

656
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,519
Like that's like if you're telling me, if I'm in

657
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,240
the postpl acalyptics situation and one of my just even

658
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,480
kids get kidnapped, it's like, hey, we got to kill

659
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:53,839
them for this sea And again it's not like I

660
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,480
guarantee it's gonna work, but it could work. It's like, yeah,

661
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,440
it's a tough that's a tough thing. We'll put yourself

662
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,000
into you. So yeah, uh yeah, let's take uh oh,

663
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,759
we took a break. We won't take one yet because

664
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:06,160
I don't know how long were you talk more about

665
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,519
the other town, so, but anything more on Joel than

666
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:11,400
Abbey and the team they were they were walking back

667
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,119
at the end all successful mission, you know.

668
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:18,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh not love for Dina in this episode. I'm

669
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:20,079
interesting they.

670
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: Put her on the mission. Like I said, in the game,

671
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,839
it's Tommy with him so.

672
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:25,559
Speaker 2: And Dina is a character right from the game.

673
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, the same thing, like they're in love

674
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,279
like or fall in love and stuff like that.

675
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,599
Speaker 2: So I see, Yeah, No, I'm just interested in kind

676
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,279
of how she's gonna take this because, like I imagine,

677
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,519
she knows Joel's dead, like everyone was there. They buried him, well,

678
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,359
not buried him, they wrapped him, and now they're getting

679
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,240
them back into town. But we just had her say

680
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,759
anything since that moment. So yeah, I'm intrigued on how

681
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,880
that dynam is gonna go. And I think I'm just

682
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,640
really interested in uh Ellie now because like like last

683
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,799
week's episode, it was just okay, she's just moody or

684
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,200
just angry at Joel for some reason. We don't really

685
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,559
know what's going on, so it's just kind of an

686
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:07,759
annoying angry teen that's mad at someone for something and

687
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:12,160
now that like I don't even really have that answer answered,

688
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,839
but like she's gonna be a completely different character because

689
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:18,599
she just witnessed this fatherlike character and just get absolutely murdered.

690
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,920
And we do have Ellie kind of talk a little

691
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,880
bit about the dynamic with her and that gentleman that

692
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,319
we never know his name Jesse. Is that his name? Sure,

693
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,480
I don't know.

694
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: I got a better I get a better chance to

695
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:35,200
find Wyoming before I figure out Jesse's name.

696
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: Take a shot to the dark. But they're just talking

697
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,240
about like the dynamic tween them, and it's like, you know,

698
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:44,079
he's Joel, Like that's it's always gonna be that. So

699
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:50,759
there is still like not pure dead to me vibes

700
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,680
from Ellie there. But I don't know. I'm just she's

701
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,920
gonna be pretty fucked up, I think going forward, especially

702
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,000
with just how they ended that dynamic of the relationship.

703
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:01,680
Still didn't even get to say anything to her.

704
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're gonna get some I think you'll

705
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:09,359
be happy with the Ellie content. I love, I really

706
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,319
enjoy Ellie in the first game, but Ellie in season two.

707
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:15,680
I cemented her as one of my favorite characters because

708
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,759
there's just a good journey there. And hell, I got

709
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:19,799
a daughter named after this character, right, So it's one

710
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:20,880
of the things where there's some.

711
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:22,799
Speaker 2: Av you don't have any Abby children.

712
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:26,839
Speaker 1: No, I don't get any Abby children. I still like again,

713
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,319
I like the Abby character. Some people despise it. I'm

714
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,519
completely fine with it. I think it work and I

715
00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:36,400
get that exactly. I think the show. I'm hoping there's

716
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,000
a couple more episodes that will like just get into like, hey,

717
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:42,200
this person was fourteen years old and their dad was

718
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,960
gunned down. From her perspective, just trying to save the world, right,

719
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,480
like you think about it. In her perspective, Hey, we

720
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,720
have a chance to save everybody, get rid of these stalkers, clickers, whatever.

721
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,359
We could maybe go back to normal if we get

722
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,200
this operation. And then the next time you see, your

723
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,240
dad's dreams are just everywhere, right. So from her, I

724
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,119
hope they do a better job kind of nailing that

725
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,759
down of like all the things she could have lost

726
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:04,519
in that situation.

727
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: But you said she was fourteen, but here she said

728
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,079
she was nineteen. Is that a difference in the game?

729
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,079
Speaker 1: Did Abby say she was nineteen?

730
00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:15,519
Speaker 2: She said she was nineteen when she discovered her dad.

731
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: Okay, then I think that might she might have been younger.

732
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,039
Speaker 2: I feel like she was younger unless I completely misinterpreted

733
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:27,440
that sequence, like I'm nineteen, motherfucker, but that wouldn't make

734
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:28,039
much sense.

735
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, how old was Abby when father killed? Let's see

736
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,400
a google comes up here, Let's see. Oh god, there's

737
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,000
a lot of too many Reddit lores and stuff like that.

738
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,839
Speaker 2: It's all of her interpretation. Is it a solid answer?

739
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: Yes, you know it was so in the game. Yeah,

740
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,119
it was implied that Abby was around fourteen to fifteen

741
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400
year old when her dad died. So it's funny the

742
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,160
stuff I can't remember from the game, Like, there's the

743
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,759
funny stuff you can't like, I should not be able

744
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:56,359
to remember that Abby was fourteen to fifteen, but I

745
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,079
can't remember that guy's fucking name. You know. It was

746
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:01,720
like a case of characters I can't remember. I think

747
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:04,839
just because that's in the game, it's they probably did that.

748
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,159
So there's not such a jump from the way Caitlyn

749
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:09,960
Deaver looks, because again they have her in that that

750
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,000
dream sequence where it's like younger her and older her,

751
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:14,159
and I'm always still like, you guys look like you

752
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,800
braided her hair, like there's no difference right here where

753
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,239
in the game fourteen fifteen year old little girl and

754
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,800
then five years later jacked woman, you know, like looking

755
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,679
like Rhea Ripley and stuff. So that's probably why they

756
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,679
maybe aged her up. So it's like, oh, she doesn't

757
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,239
have a look completely different body type wise, right, So

758
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:34,960
there you go. Hmm, it's my goats anything on the

759
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,960
town attack stuff. I enjoyed this all. Like I said,

760
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,119
it's not in the game. I think it was good action.

761
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,159
There's not much for me to breakdown of like, oh,

762
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,599
there's like this choice and this choice. It's pretty appure

763
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,159
and simple of uh. They tease it last week at

764
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,480
that little pipe having those those little tendrils calm things out,

765
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,320
and they came there and lots of stuff going down,

766
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,480
lots of uh. I guess these ones are made the stalkers,

767
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,800
a smart ones just going to get some roof access.

768
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,360
Lots lots of lots of dead people in this. And

769
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,000
I will say, like again, cinematically great in that time

770
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,719
when Abby found the bodies in the front like the

771
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,360
ice and all woke up, that was great. It felt

772
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,760
definitely give me like Game of Thrones, like the wall

773
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,119
vibe and everything. But so yeah, there's not anything huge

774
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,159
modes like we didn't lose any big characters here. But

775
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,960
I thought this was very well done and some good tension.

776
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,880
And I read like the moment with Tommy and the

777
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:26,119
the big Bloater when he had the flamethrower and it

778
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:28,960
was just like the last few pumps got the got

779
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:29,880
got on the wind.

780
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,159
Speaker 2: So it seems that scene fell like a win on

781
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,559
so long. It kept going from like him with the

782
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,360
gun to the to the bloat or whatever it was called,

783
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,880
and then like back to him and then it'd show

784
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,599
his tanks and then like back it like it would

785
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:43,559
cycle that like three times, I swear, and then it

786
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,800
was just like ps I going down. It's like, okay,

787
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,920
I get it. He's he's running low man. Tommy was

788
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,440
everywhere in this battle. He was like he started on

789
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,719
the wall. Yeah, he stormed down, picked up the flamethrower

790
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,519
you dealt with that, got back in the streets, like

791
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:00,920
was popping off. I thought, I'll one hundred percent sure

792
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,280
he was gonna die in this sequence, just because he

793
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,079
was in or like he was just in so many situations,

794
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,039
I assumed he was gonna get a bopted. At some point,

795
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:12,039
I thought it was gonna be him or his wife.

796
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:13,280
I thought it was going to be like a really

797
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:16,119
heart wrenching sequence. But it makes sense that that didn't

798
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:19,840
happen because we had a massive We had a massive

799
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,119
loss with the likes of Joel Miller, so it makes

800
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,760
sense those those people wouldn't be killed. I I don't

801
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,440
know if that's something true, like does Tommy have like

802
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,079
a wife and everything like in the game, Like.

803
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all true. Yeah yeah, And like I said,

804
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,480
just some of this big bad but yeah, that that's

805
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,840
I believe all true. That's track in the memory.

806
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think as someone that hasn't played the game,

807
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:42,400
I think they did a really good job of just

808
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,800
having stakes in that situation because I I thought the

809
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,000
whole town was gonna get eaten. Honestly, at a certain point,

810
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,880
I did not think it was gonna end super well.

811
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,639
But they were. They were well prepared, They had a

812
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:55,440
lot of defenses set up, and it was just a

813
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:59,719
really well shot like battle sequence. I was just I

814
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,840
was definitely getting just some inkleans to like the you know,

815
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,360
of course, the famous Battle of Helm's Deep, just like

816
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,920
the different stages of the battle even even like like

817
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,559
the bloater like first appears and they're like.

818
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, like, aless, bring him down.

819
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: It was just there's some parallels there, But I mean

820
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,400
it's not a bad thing if you're getting compared to uh,

821
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,079
you know, one of the greatest, probably the greatest see

822
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,079
each battle of all time. So I thought they did

823
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:34,480
a really good job with it. Like CGI looked good, honestly,

824
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:36,880
Like there was the big bloater monster. I could tell

825
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,039
it was CGI, but like it didn't look bad by

826
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,679
any means. Even even the dogs, like they had some

827
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,800
close ups they look vicious and it looked all good.

828
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,239
So yeah, really really well executed uh battle. And uh,

829
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,039
I don't know, I just thought it was going to

830
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:52,960
build up a little bit more too, Like there's just

831
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,599
a lot going on in this episode. I was not

832
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,920
expecting to get so early. But yeah, now it's got

833
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,840
me talking and I'm just I can't wait for next week.

834
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:00,960
They did a good job with it.

835
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it really went to like zero two, one

836
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,920
hundred real fast. Get the abs scene. Then they had

837
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,679
just the snipers looking at and then there's just a

838
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,119
couple in the stow and then.

839
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: Just yeah, just gone. That guy's reaction too, which is

840
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,800
like what what is that? And then it just like everything,

841
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:19,119
It's like man, what, like fuck, what do we even do?

842
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,119
What's the particle? Good thing? They had a safety meeting

843
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:22,639
like that morning, so they were pretty good.

844
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta have those safety meetings. You know. Last

845
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,519
week Ellie and Dina not listening to them. That's why

846
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:31,039
you have to. They know what they're doing there. So

847
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,639
but yeah, lots to rebuild and see what's gonna happen there.

848
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:35,639
And like I said, that's a lot going on. It's rebuild.

849
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Joel's dead, who was like a i'd say, one of

850
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:41,760
the leaders, you know, like of that place. And also

851
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,639
it's gonna impact Tom and a bunch of other people.

852
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,719
So yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be something. I

853
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,199
guess we forgot to mention. Before Ellie's journey, Uh you know,

854
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,400
uh bigot guy gave her some steak sandwiches to try

855
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,239
and make good.

856
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that guy.

857
00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:59,199
Speaker 1: I like a good little back and forth. I'm sorry,

858
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,119
I got drunk and and she's like, yeah, I know,

859
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,559
I know a bunch of peo like a drunk and

860
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:07,199
say things they don't mean and then that's enough just

861
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,559
to accept the apology. But uh yeah, fun though that

862
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:12,000
that's from the games too. I don't know if the

863
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,519
dialogue is the exact same, but yeah, trying it.

864
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: Felt like a side quest thing, like like like it's

865
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,599
it's not even a side quest, it's like a miscellaneous

866
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:22,079
like interaction, like go interact with that guy before you

867
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:22,440
head back.

868
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, if you don't have to talk to them, yeah.

869
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:27,559
Speaker 2: Exact Yeah, that's exactly what it felt like. So they

870
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:29,000
did a good job with that because it felt very

871
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:29,840
video gamey.

872
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:33,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else in this episode.

873
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,199
Speaker 2: Oh man, some of that was bugging me. In the

874
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,000
sequence when they just had like the lines of flamethrowers,

875
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:41,079
like flame throwers, I feel like, are they would be

876
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:44,760
an effective weapon against zombies, but like from Afar, like

877
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,840
I would never be like standing in a FAILANX like

878
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,920
like a shield and a spear type guy, but like

879
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,480
you're just standing there with the flame floorer like, yeah,

880
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,159
I'm gonna light up a zombie, but they're they're not

881
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:56,480
gonna stop. They're just gonna run right through my flames

882
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,280
and just fuck me up. And sure enough, something one

883
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,400
of the one of the flamethrower. Guys got bopped pretty sure.

884
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,079
They all got bopped actually except for Tommy. So of

885
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:09,199
course he had the plot armor uh protection on him

886
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,320
that time that time around. But yeah, I don't put

887
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,719
a flamethrow on me in the zombie po.

888
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it, don't get me wrong, Like

889
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:19,719
if there's no weapons and it's flame floor floor flame thrower,

890
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,599
I'll take that weapon, but not my key weapon, even

891
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:24,960
veil games. I feel like they can just backfire, you know.

892
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, it's uh, I don't know, you don't

893
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:30,239
get a lot of bang for your for your buck.

894
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,719
I just feel like it's a slow damage over time

895
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,360
that uh it's not gonna protect. You need like a

896
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,480
shotgun blast, like get the fuck away from me, you know,

897
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,000
not like a big little flame the mount. I mean,

898
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,599
I thought the bloater was like not affected by it

899
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:45,360
at all. It was just walking right through his flames.

900
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,199
And then sure enough, with the the power of plot armor,

901
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:54,280
he was he was saved. Our dear boy, Tommy Beyond

902
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,360
That's what else happened. Oh uh who we think? I

903
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,599
think his name's Jesse. Jesse and Ellie. They come across

904
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:03,519
the h the little pot farm thing going on. She

905
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,400
got the she's filled up her bag with some weed

906
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,559
and got like a gas mask bowl thing that she

907
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:11,159
was taken back. It's funny enough, it's four twenty today,

908
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:15,360
so there you go. It's it's it all came together. Really, No,

909
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:21,280
it's not today, it's four Twenty's the fairy.

910
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,639
Speaker 1: In March April? Oh my god, it is, because you

911
00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:26,880
know it's throwing the office because today the twins are

912
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,199
five months old, so I'm thinking it's the five. It's

913
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,639
a four. I just like I've seen nothing about it

914
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:33,239
being four twenty.

915
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,559
Speaker 2: Like my I didn't realize until like literally way in

916
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:38,960
the afternoon. I was like, oh my gosh. And it's

917
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,679
only because someone's birthday is the day before four twenty.

918
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:42,519
That's why I remember it.

919
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: And wow, they.

920
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: Forgot the birthday, so apologies to that person.

921
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: I forgot a birthday too. Yesterday. There's somebody I was

922
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,519
supposed to message. I messed them today. I was like, oh,

923
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:56,440
and I don't think I know. I certainly they've looked

924
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,320
at my message. It's like one of my oldest friends,

925
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,880
he hasn't looked at it pretty much, he hasn't looked

926
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,400
at it and he was online at least five hours

927
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,760
ago and I said this message seven am, so he's

928
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,559
probably like, fuck this guy podcasts and I was working.

929
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:13,000
I got the podcast Everything Wrestle Meia. It's just and

930
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:15,519
I just don't use Facebook as much as I used to,

931
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Like I actually use all social media lasts, but Facebook

932
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,920
especially I just I don't know, especially we're getting election

933
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,039
times and whatnot. There's another there's you got enough awkward people.

934
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:27,159
I'm like, I can't unfriend you because you're like a

935
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:29,440
family friend. But like, I'm definitely gonna mute you right

936
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,719
now because I don't need these reasons, you know, like

937
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,679
just go vote and be quiet. So yeah, happy birthday, Jeff.

938
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:41,599
But yeah, and he oh, we'll return to that weed

939
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,800
shop I met they go follow, I say, it's like

940
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:45,639
that's where they break it and no, there's just like

941
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,760
some fun stuff that happens there, so we should return

942
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,480
there in the in the future.

943
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: So cool. Yeah, and I also am excited to figure

944
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,440
out who the fuck you genus because we are just

945
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:58,280
doubling down on this guy two episodes in a row.

946
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,639
People are very impacted by Yeah.

947
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesse was pretty like pro Joel though, like, oh

948
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:06,199
he had to put them down, you know, So it

949
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,440
didn't sound like it was like not that wasn't sad,

950
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,400
but wasn't like some people might be like, oh, is

951
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,280
that the way I had to go? He seemed pretty distinct,

952
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,000
like you have to do that. And then we also

953
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:19,360
got Jesse. I hope his name is Jesse. It's gonna

954
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,039
be the Andy Adams situation again. We had him do

955
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:25,000
that kind of fun little moment with Ellie where he's like,

956
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,079
you want you kissed her after a week and you know,

957
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:29,360
I know and stuff, and then but that was a

958
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,480
really dick move. So yeah, he knows they're all cool.

959
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,320
It seems like kind of like what we talked about

960
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,159
last week that maybe they broke up because maybe she's

961
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,519
she's non dudes or not as dudes as much as

962
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:41,519
maybe she's in Ellie. Right, So it doesn't seem like

963
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,880
there's any like hard feelings between the two of them,

964
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,760
and especially after Joel dies, we don't need some sort

965
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,159
of like going your friends storyline.

966
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: Died, but I know what you did my girl.

967
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't believe. Yeah, that would I would not

968
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,440
enjoy jealousy throupple storyline.

969
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: While we're bearing the new villain over.

970
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,159
Speaker 1: He gave Abay the information again in there so.

971
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:08,519
Speaker 2: Cool, No I got nothing.

972
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. We will be back next week

973
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:13,880
and hopefully we got Dylan and Taylor, or even if

974
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,960
it's not us, hopefully Dylan Taylor on there so we

975
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,239
can get their thoughts because we got that I have met.

976
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,920
I don't know how it's gonna because, like I said,

977
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,480
there's lots of flashbacks that haven't happened yet, there's stuff

978
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:24,599
with Abby. I'm not sure if it's gonna be one

979
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:26,159
of those episodes really show a bunch of stuff. I'm

980
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:28,559
not sure if it's just gonna be a classic like

981
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:31,159
depressing episode where it's just all the characters dealing with

982
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,559
the information, right, like Ellie, Diana, Tommy, other people, right,

983
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,840
like the fucking therapist. Like, I don't know which we're

984
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,400
gonna get next week. I could see them doing a

985
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:43,480
very quiet episode because not only did you get a big,

986
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:47,119
huge show changing moment, he also had a massive battle, right,

987
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:50,119
So you can't have everyone being like, oh, another slow episode,

988
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:51,960
like this episode wasn't slow or anything. So I could

989
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,480
see next week being a very drama heavy, Melancholi type

990
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,800
of episode and then get into some other stuff, and

991
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:00,599
I don't think it's a bad thing. Usually the show

992
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:01,760
has great writing, great acting.

993
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, for sure.

994
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah we will be back next week and I promise

995
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,840
you it will not be boring.

996
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,119
Speaker 2: Bye bye