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<v Speaker 1>Something you should go Something you should know is brought

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<v Speaker 1>with a pretty awesome lady right now. Michelle Mace Curran

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<v Speaker 1>is the second woman in history to serve as a

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<v Speaker 1>lead solo pilot for the US Air Force Thunderbirds, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's got a brand new book out. It's called The

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<v Speaker 1>Flip Side, How to Invert your perspective and turn fear

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<v Speaker 1>into your superpower. This looks fantastic. How long does it

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<v Speaker 1>take to write a book like this?

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<v Speaker 2>I have been working on it for almost exactly three years,

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<v Speaker 2>from the time I started the book proposal to the

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<v Speaker 2>time it released just a couple of weeks ago. So

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<v Speaker 2>it is not a quick process.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this book can help a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people as they're trying to navigate their way through life.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would you say is the ideal person to read

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<v Speaker 1>this book?

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<v Speaker 2>I love the question because I think people assume it's

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<v Speaker 2>for other pilots. They assume it's for military enthusiasts, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to write it for your average person who

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<v Speaker 2>is facing some sort of obstacles where things feel uncertain.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when I close my eyes and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my team is like, who's the customer avatar, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the thirty five year old mom who's been

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<v Speaker 2>out of the workforce raising her kids for a few

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<v Speaker 2>years and is coming back as they go to school

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<v Speaker 2>and feels all this self doubt and imposter syndrome because

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<v Speaker 2>she's been out of the game for a while and

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<v Speaker 2>it feels scary and she has that low level anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that is really just a good example of the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of relatable stuff that's in the book. It's framed

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<v Speaker 2>around these pretty insane stories from the cockpit, but the

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<v Speaker 2>lessons that are pulled out of them are for situations

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<v Speaker 2>exactly like that, those times when we let that fear

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<v Speaker 2>stop us and we take it as a stop sign

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just data that our brains is giving us

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<v Speaker 2>that's often misinformed. And so I wrote it for your

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<v Speaker 2>average person who struggled with those feelings of self doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>of fear, of you know, wanting to feel comfortable rather

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<v Speaker 2>than going after this thing that's probably going to push

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<v Speaker 2>them to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. And many times we have crossroads in

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<v Speaker 1>our life. When you're graduating as one of those, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you're getting married, maybe taking a new job, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>move into a different community. When these things are happening,

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<v Speaker 1>you want some help navigating your way. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this book, The Flip Side, might actually be able to

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<v Speaker 1>help people make better choices when it is a crossroads

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<v Speaker 1>in their life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. I do a lot of keynote speaking, and

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<v Speaker 2>I share very similar themes and stories during my speeches,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really been amazing and eye opening to me

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<v Speaker 2>to have everyone from high school girls at a leadership

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<v Speaker 2>conference that that was the target audience coming up to

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<v Speaker 2>me afterwards, to very experienced male leaders in the corporate

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<v Speaker 2>world coming up to me after a speech and being like,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you wrote that for me. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that so many points during my career, during my life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm about to graduate, it's scary, I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to retire, it's scary. I'm about to be a leader

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time. It's scary. And so it is

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<v Speaker 2>not for a specific age, a specific demographic, It's for

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<v Speaker 2>really that human experience I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make it easy to find to copy

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<v Speaker 1>this book. I'll throw a link to it. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't talk to you about the Thunderbirds, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get run out of town. You were a pilot for

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<v Speaker 1>the US Air Force Thunderbirds. What is it like being

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot? You guys all work in symphony, You're all

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<v Speaker 1>like working together. I've seen you at the air show

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<v Speaker 1>here in Sioux Falls. It's amazing to watch. What is

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<v Speaker 1>that experience like to be a part of that?

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<v Speaker 2>It is quite a unique honor to be on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually slew the Suo Falls air show in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, so I've been there and done that show

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<v Speaker 2>and great town. I'm from Wisconsin originally, so I always

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<v Speaker 2>like to get back to the Midwest. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>such an extreme example of trust and teamwork at the

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<v Speaker 2>highest level. And people see us, the pilots, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of as the face the team out there doing

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<v Speaker 2>these maneuvers, and they look deptifying from the outside. It

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<v Speaker 2>really comes down to just an insane amount of discipline

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<v Speaker 2>and repetition we practice at the highest level. I would

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<v Speaker 2>compare it to a professional sports team, you know, We're

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<v Speaker 2>out there all year round doing repas after repens the reps.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes during training season when air shows aren't happening, we're

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<v Speaker 2>flying ten times a week and it is just doing

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<v Speaker 2>it again and again and again until you can't get

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong. But then you have one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>people that make up that team, and you know, ninety

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<v Speaker 2>something of those are maintainers that make sure the jets

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<v Speaker 2>aren't like the best working condition, and we literally trust

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<v Speaker 2>those people with our lives, right, like, if something were

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<v Speaker 2>to break on the jet and the type of flying

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<v Speaker 2>that we're doing, it could have catastrophic results. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it is the highest performing team I've ever had the

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<v Speaker 2>honor being a part of. And just the trust and

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<v Speaker 2>the shared mission and the work ethic of being on

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<v Speaker 2>the road almost two hundred and fifty days a year

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<v Speaker 2>doing about seventy air shows per season is just something

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people don't get to see behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes, and it is absolutely incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. So I actually saw you fly because I

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<v Speaker 1>was at that air show. And we don't have one

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<v Speaker 1>every year, but we do have another one coming up

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<v Speaker 1>this year twenty twenty six, So folks get ready for

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<v Speaker 1>another amazing Sioux Falls air show.

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<v Speaker 2>Please the Thunderbirds will be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope so too. I don't know if they've announced

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be here yet. It's always an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>lineup and every time the Thunderbirds are here, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most amazing pieces of the air shows.

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<v Speaker 2>It is quite the spectacle. If you've never seen it,

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<v Speaker 2>it will make you feel very proud and patriotic and

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<v Speaker 2>just like supportive of the military and the precision that

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<v Speaker 2>we're able to deliver.

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle, thank you so much for taking the time to

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<v Speaker 1>chat with us. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest has been Michelle Mace Curran and she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a new book called The Flip Side, How to Invert

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<v Speaker 1>your perspective and turn fear into your Superpower. It's available

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<v Speaker 1>now and I've got a link to it at Facebook

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