Speaker 1: It's nice eye.
Speaker 2: I'm going easy. Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3: All right, back to the calls. We're talking about autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 3: I have had the pleasure I'm driving in an autonomous vehicle. Basically,
Speaker 3: it's called a way Mow in San Francisco and it
Speaker 3: was in I guess was January. When I was out
Speaker 3: there and tried. It worked fine, pretty easy. I haven't
Speaker 3: heard from too many people who have experienced this, but
Speaker 3: it's different. It's like calling an uber or lyft and
Speaker 3: there's no driver, So it's good for people who don't
Speaker 3: want to have to talk to the drivers. I guess
Speaker 3: I like to talk to drivers, but I need and
Speaker 3: I also like to talk to you. Let's give us
Speaker 3: a call. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty
Speaker 3: six one seven nine three one ten thirty. Just love
Speaker 3: to know what attitude on this is. I mean, at
Speaker 3: thirty forty years now, I'm sure autonomous cars will be
Speaker 3: the rage, and we probably will have no accidents because well,
Speaker 3: with every car on the road is autonomous and there
Speaker 3: are braking systems designed and all of it, we won't
Speaker 3: have accidents. But it's going to take a while for
Speaker 3: us to get there. It's going to take a while
Speaker 3: for me to get to my calls. Let me go
Speaker 3: to Glenn and West Roxbury, Glenn. You were next door nightside.
Speaker 4: Welcome Greg, Hello Dan Hi. I think the self driving
Speaker 4: cars would be fantastic idea because ninety percent of car
Speaker 4: accidents are caused by human error. So if human's on
Speaker 4: driving should be a lot of less accidents.
Speaker 3: I think you make a lot of sense. I think
Speaker 3: that that as night follows day, exactly what you said,
Speaker 3: that you take the human element out of it. Now,
Speaker 3: will there be some accidents? Probably, But I would think
Speaker 3: that if that if every car in the road was
Speaker 3: designed as an autono this vehicle, there would be no accidents.
Speaker 3: And again it's a weird Let me tell you. When
Speaker 3: you get in that car and you realize no one's
Speaker 3: in the front seat, and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 3: voice in the car says, make sure your seat belt
Speaker 3: is securely fastened, and you do that because if you
Speaker 3: don't fasten your seat belt, the car's stock got to
Speaker 3: pull away from the curb, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: the steering wheel starts to turn and you can feel
Speaker 3: the car starting to move and you're you're in a
Speaker 3: way mo so we hadn't talked about this in any
Speaker 3: depth in a while here at Night's side, and then
Speaker 3: Marita and I today said, well, let's do a couple
Speaker 3: of different things. We talked about the Patriots walker room
Speaker 3: complaints in the first hour, and we're talking about this
Speaker 3: in the in the ten and eleven o'clock hours. So
Speaker 3: you would you you haven't experienced this yet, would you
Speaker 3: hesitate if you were in a city like Phoenix, LA
Speaker 3: Or San Francisco with these cars were available to try them,
Speaker 3: to try them.
Speaker 4: I'd sure like to try it, to see how it feels.
Speaker 4: One thing I'm thinking of is every single year there's
Speaker 4: over forty thousand people that die from car recC and
Speaker 4: it's if every cow.
Speaker 3: I think they've they've brought that number down a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think it's more like about thirty But thirty thousand
Speaker 3: people are enough to fill Fenway Park, so it's a
Speaker 3: lot of people. Maybe you might be right, you.
Speaker 4: Know, go ahead, Maybe maybe if every cow was self driving,
Speaker 4: it would be like really really low, like way lower.
Speaker 3: I think I tend to think you're right on that one, Glenn,
Speaker 3: to be really honest with you, So thanks, thanks for
Speaker 3: weighing in on your point of view on this. Have
Speaker 3: you called the show before? Is this your first time?
Speaker 4: I called in years ago when the cold was the
Speaker 4: hot doctor.
Speaker 3: Doctor Larry Cone, and I miss him so much. He's
Speaker 3: a great he was a great man. And what a
Speaker 3: legacy he did. I think it was twelve thousand heart
Speaker 3: surgeries at his career.
Speaker 2: Just wow.
Speaker 5: I ended up going to going.
Speaker 4: To see him, actually because he was on the show,
Speaker 4: so I ended up going to his office.
Speaker 3: Ah, he was an incredible guy. I hope he took
Speaker 3: care of you. Obviously you're still alive and everything, Okay,
Speaker 3: I hope at this point.
Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately I've had five hot attacks, so but I'm
Speaker 4: still here.
Speaker 3: That's an important thing. That's an important How old are you, Glenn?
Speaker 4: Sixty six and I'm still trying.
Speaker 3: You know what, Glenn, you're a very young man. So
Speaker 3: just keep that weight down, eat a little bit better,
Speaker 3: get a little bit of exercise, and make sure you
Speaker 3: see your doctor. Okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I became a vegetarian eleven years ago and I've never
Speaker 4: weighed more than one hundred and fifty pounds, so I
Speaker 4: never had that.
Speaker 7: Problem.
Speaker 4: But every man on my father's side of the family,
Speaker 4: we all had the hot trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this genetics is something you kind you kind
Speaker 3: of avoid, and I wish your good health, my friend,
Speaker 3: and I hope to hear from you more often.
Speaker 4: Okay, Kerry, thanks a lot.
Speaker 3: Thanks glad to talk to you soon. Let me go
Speaker 3: to Martha down in Sekong, down on the south coast. Hi, Martha,
Speaker 3: how are you tonight?
Speaker 8: Okay, Canio, I'm doing just great.
Speaker 3: Tell me what you thought are about these autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 8: Well, I when my son and I had talked about
Speaker 8: it in the past, I was kind of nervous about it.
Speaker 8: He actually works for Waimo. He's a cyber security guy,
Speaker 8: and he told me that it's very safe. Those guys
Speaker 8: are very safe, and a couple of months ago he
Speaker 8: mentioned that their competition hit a pedestrian and they dragged
Speaker 8: the woman a couple of feet, so their competition got
Speaker 8: they weren't able to to do the testing anymore until,
Speaker 8: you know, until they got checked out and stuff make
Speaker 8: sure everything's okay. So I asked my son what does
Speaker 8: Waymo do so that doesn't happen to them, and he
Speaker 8: said that they factor in like children running into the
Speaker 8: streets and stuff like that. So they have different things
Speaker 8: that they do so they don't hit hit anybody. But
Speaker 8: I'm not sure if I would be interested in.
Speaker 3: Let me ask is who was the competition that uh
Speaker 3: the name of the company Cruise Cruise like.
Speaker 8: Huh okay, yeah, and I had never heard of them before.
Speaker 3: Well, that's you know, capitalistic system. You've got different companies
Speaker 3: out there competing. So so your son works, is he based?
Speaker 3: I think it's a cool your son works for way moment.
Speaker 8: Google, right, yeah, he he works remote. He used to
Speaker 8: live in the Bay Area, but now he's he's in
Speaker 8: a different state. But a few times he has to,
Speaker 8: you know, go to California and and do some testing
Speaker 8: on the Carsia and the gentleman that was talking about
Speaker 8: the car getting hacked, you know, I want I don't
Speaker 8: think i'd be worried about the weather. He talked about
Speaker 8: a couple of things, you know, the weather. I think
Speaker 8: that they would probably factor in snowstorms and stuff like that.
Speaker 8: But like my son says, the cybersecurity guys, they have
Speaker 8: to be correct one hundred percent of times, whereas a
Speaker 8: bad hacker only has to be correct one time to
Speaker 8: you know, mess things up.
Speaker 3: No, I hear you I hear you that. What does
Speaker 3: your son do? Is he a programmer?
Speaker 8: Uh? Yeah, he works on the safety issues of it.
Speaker 8: You know, he tries to hack the system.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, no, I get Yeah, you need people
Speaker 3: like that obviously. Hopefully we have people in our government
Speaker 3: who's trying to find the weaknesses in the SOB security
Speaker 3: system and all of that. Yeah, we need people like that. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: It's like when, like in the old days, you need
Speaker 3: a lot you need a locksmith to come to your
Speaker 3: house to put a lock on to make sure no
Speaker 3: one can walk in through the front door unnoticed. Same
Speaker 3: same principle, a little more complicated what your son's doing though. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 3: thanks Martha. Have I heard from you before? Is this
Speaker 3: your first time calling?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 8: I called a few years ago.
Speaker 3: You know, it's really funny people will tell me I
Speaker 3: called a few years ago. Call more often. Okay. I
Speaker 3: really love to hear different voices more frequently. Thanks for
Speaker 3: listening down there on the South coast. And uh and
Speaker 3: and thanks for calling, and come on back soon.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, thank you, have a good I hope.
Speaker 3: Your son occasionally listens to us. You know, you can
Speaker 3: tell your son if he wants to tomorrow. We will
Speaker 3: have this hour post it like we post our hours
Speaker 3: all the time at Nightside on Demand dot com. He
Speaker 3: he could listen to this hour. Tell him you were
Speaker 3: on about eleven fifteen. He'd be able to. He'd be
Speaker 3: pretty proud of hearing his mom on the radio.
Speaker 8: Well, I called him up to because I was hoping
Speaker 8: he'd call in and talk to you, but he was
Speaker 8: afraid that he wouldn't be able to get the reception
Speaker 8: where he's at.
Speaker 3: Well, all he's got to do is go to WBZ
Speaker 3: on the web WBZ Boston and we brought web live
Speaker 3: and he can he can go to Night's if he's
Speaker 3: that's easy. If he listens to tomorrow, he can listen
Speaker 3: to the replay of this hour at Nightside on demand
Speaker 3: dot com.
Speaker 8: All right, all right, well, thank.
Speaker 3: You, thank you, Martha, appreciate it. Have a great night.
Speaker 3: Good night. Wow, that's kind of a small world that
Speaker 3: mom is listening and the son is wor the time
Speaker 3: for a break? I think, Rob, I'm late a couple
Speaker 3: of minutes. Here will give the number one more time
Speaker 3: six one seven, two, five four to ten thirty. Also
Speaker 3: six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. Take a
Speaker 3: quick break here on Nightside, back talking about autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 3: They will be in the future, not exactly. Well, they're
Speaker 3: here now. Uh if you want to be a passenger.
Speaker 3: But in terms of owning an autonomous vehicle that's coming.
Speaker 3: It might be ten or fifteen or more years, but eventually,
Speaker 3: your your grandchildren and your children will probably own an
Speaker 3: autonomous driving vehicle. Back on Nightside after.
Speaker 2: This, Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window
Speaker 2: World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: Keep rowling. You're going to go to Jack in Firmingham.
Speaker 3: Jack next on Nightside. Welcome, Yes, Hi, Hi Dan, how
Speaker 3: are you. I'm doing great, Jack, Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had had an experience with an autonomous vehicle?
Speaker 9: Well, no, I haven't yet. It sounds interesting. I had
Speaker 9: tuned in before eleven, and the young man on the
Speaker 9: phone suggests that I called back after eleven because I
Speaker 9: wanted to talk about this economic boycott that was scheduled
Speaker 9: for tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know again, I'll give you. I don't want
Speaker 3: to break the chain here since you've called back, you
Speaker 3: want to mention it, go right ahead. But what I
Speaker 3: told him was to call back when, if and when
Speaker 3: we got to open lines. But go ahead. I'll give
Speaker 3: you an opportunity.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, yes, sir.
Speaker 9: Well, according to what I'm reading from the AP story,
Speaker 9: the US or residents are being encouraged not to spend
Speaker 9: any money Friday as an act of economic resistance to
Speaker 9: protest what the group's founder sees as the influence of billionaires,
Speaker 9: big corporations, and both major political parties on the lives
Speaker 9: of working Americas. The People's Union USA calls the twenty
Speaker 9: four hours of spending abstinence set to start at midnight,
Speaker 9: an economic blackout.
Speaker 3: Well, so I certainly don't support that, to be honest
Speaker 3: with you. Why not, Dan?
Speaker 6: Why why not? Why not?
Speaker 3: Because I will go out tomorrow and I have probably
Speaker 3: put some gas in my car, and I have to
Speaker 3: probably buy some food for the weekend.
Speaker 5: And I no, I understand that perfectly.
Speaker 9: Dan, I agree with you. But I heard about this
Speaker 9: earlier in the week and people were being encouraged to
Speaker 9: get all the shopping done so that we would not
Speaker 9: have to shop tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So I would just.
Speaker 9: Encourage anybody that cannot shop, who is concerned about the
Speaker 9: billionaires taken over this country to not shop tomorrow.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, that's fine. There's a lot of billionaires who
Speaker 3: invest in companies and provide people with jobs.
Speaker 10: You know what I'm talking about, Jane.
Speaker 9: I'm thought that the billionaires that are running Washington right
Speaker 9: now that are trampling on little babies getting vaccines in Africa,
Speaker 9: these billionaires in the White House.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is so, this is a political protest
Speaker 3: against Trump and President Trump.
Speaker 9: No, no, d it says the people. It's the People's
Speaker 9: Union USA. I'm just reading the A P story. Doesn't
Speaker 9: say anything about Jackie.
Speaker 3: I got to get to get excited. You. You told
Speaker 3: me exactly what it was. So if people out there
Speaker 3: want to take advantage of that and express themselves, that's fine.
Speaker 3: But I'm not there with that with you on that one.
Speaker 3: Jack So appreciate your time for calling in. Appreciate that
Speaker 3: you called back. Feel free to call the show any night.
Speaker 3: Have a great night. Let's keep rolling. You're going to
Speaker 3: go to Mike and Wellesley. Mike, I don't know about you,
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm going to be shopping tomorrow. Go ahead, Mike,
Speaker 3: I will be too.
Speaker 10: I'm calling about the windmill. I actually have a funny
Speaker 10: story but happened earlier this year I was in scott
Speaker 10: Keller was in Scottsville, Arizona, going to Fiesta Bowl, and
Speaker 10: my wife and I were at a hotel and there
Speaker 10: was a Waymo park right outside and she was thinking
Speaker 10: about getting in it, and I'm like, nah, I don't
Speaker 10: think it's ready for prime time. And it's a couple
Speaker 10: more years, and we got on the we got home.
Speaker 10: About two days later. We got home and we saw
Speaker 10: in the USA Today website that Scottsdale, Arizona Waymo wouldn't
Speaker 10: let a guy out at the airport. He just kept
Speaker 10: circling because it somehow got hacked or doctor fuse. And
Speaker 10: the guy was circling for three hours. And so we
Speaker 10: were kind of we figured we touched a bullet.
Speaker 3: WHOA. I had not seen that story, and I guess
Speaker 3: that's possible, or obviously it's more than possible that actually happened.
Speaker 10: He had to call the he had to call waymom
Speaker 10: uh help service to get them to stop the car.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: But then the question is, then the question is how
Speaker 3: does he know. I mean, let's assume you're going out
Speaker 3: of Phoenix. Phoenix is a pretty big airport, and you
Speaker 3: start to panic and you say, well, I want to
Speaker 3: be I want to stop at the Delta or American
Speaker 3: or Jet Blue or whatever. Uh he probably you know,
Speaker 3: if someone else has taken control of the car, that's weird.
Speaker 3: I mean that, first of all, why would anyone do
Speaker 3: that when you think.
Speaker 10: About it, to do what hackett? I don't know if
Speaker 10: pactor was just a glitch in the in the software,
Speaker 10: but just okay.
Speaker 3: So let's assume it's it's a glitch in the software
Speaker 3: or a hacket, doesn't matter. I got to assume that
Speaker 3: Waimo would stay, get out of the car when it stops.
Speaker 3: Weary you, We'll send another car to pick you up.
Speaker 10: We were pretty happy we toughtched the bullet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well again. I got into Waimo in San Francisco
Speaker 3: and it was a really pleasant experience. I mean, it
Speaker 3: was a comfortable car. Sat there. I was with my
Speaker 3: daughter and her husband, and basically they explained what was
Speaker 3: going on. It was, it was all it was. Look
Speaker 3: when you know, it was just for me. It was
Speaker 3: a new experience and I just enjoyed it. I thought
Speaker 3: to myself, I've never done this before. I'm not in
Speaker 3: San Francisco every day, or a Los Angeles or Phoenix
Speaker 3: Arizona or Scottsdale. But hey, it worked for me. I'm
Speaker 3: glad that you didn't get in that car, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: But it's pretty weird when you see it, isn't it.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean I'm actually intrigued eventually thinking about
Speaker 10: ten years, you know, the insurance companies or somebody's going
Speaker 10: to say, look, it's safer than people driving, especially like
Speaker 10: at night after stone the bars and stuff. So I
Speaker 10: do think it's coming. I'm not afraid of the technology.
Speaker 10: I just don't think it's ready for primetime. And that's
Speaker 10: where reinforced it that I'm going to wait a few
Speaker 10: more years.
Speaker 3: Well, right, I think it's ready for primetime in San Francisco,
Speaker 3: Los Angeles right now. Now. Why anybody is out there
Speaker 3: trying to hack into a system and cause people aggravation.
Speaker 3: That's like the people who want to block the Southeast
Speaker 3: Expressway because they have a political point of you. When
Speaker 3: people are trying to get to hospital appointments and you know,
Speaker 3: law offices and get to work, they don't care. Their
Speaker 3: political point of view is the most important. Our friend
Speaker 3: Jack from Framingham tomorrow is all excited about He's not
Speaker 3: gonna He's not gonna buy anything at the store. Okay, good,
Speaker 3: good for him. That's his right. You've got a lot
Speaker 3: of freedom to do that. But you know that's I
Speaker 3: just don't see why anybody plays a prank like that.
Speaker 3: To me, that's the same thing as person who calls
Speaker 3: it a bomb a bomb scare. I mean, all that's
Speaker 3: doing is causing that. The person that hacked the Waimo
Speaker 3: caused a lot of aggravation, angst, and anxiety to the
Speaker 3: person who was in the WEIMO. The person who calls
Speaker 3: the bomb scare or whatever, they're just causing people inconvenience. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm with you. Thanks Mike, appreciate your call.
Speaker 10: Thank you boy, Bye bye.
Speaker 3: All right, if we would like, uh, we will continue
Speaker 3: with this or or right after the news at the
Speaker 3: bottom of the Arab we'll give you some open line opportunity.
Speaker 3: I think this is a fascinating topic. Maybe because I
Speaker 3: experienced this, I'm a little more interested in it. But
Speaker 3: we've had some great calls in the last couple of hours.
Speaker 3: I thank everyone who did call, particularly those who had
Speaker 3: an opinion on WEIMO one way or the other. It's around,
Speaker 3: as I say, it exists. It's in Phoenix, it's in
Speaker 3: San Francisco, it's in Los Angeles. I don't know it's
Speaker 3: going to be here anytime soon, but there will come
Speaker 3: a point where people will be buying self driving cars
Speaker 3: to own, not just to use as self driving the
Speaker 3: equivalent of a self driving taxicab or self driving uber
Speaker 3: or self driving lyft. I remember when I got in
Speaker 3: the car. It was very strange to think, Okay, you're
Speaker 3: getting in the backseat of a car. There's no one
Speaker 3: in the front seat, and this car is going to
Speaker 3: take you from right here, point A to point B.
Speaker 3: And it did, and it was flawless. And as a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, it had to make a bit of
Speaker 3: a U turn on the street to get us across
Speaker 3: the street. It didn't drop us off on the side
Speaker 3: of the street and then have us walk across the street.
Speaker 3: It waited until traffic was clear, and it swung right
Speaker 3: across the street to where our location was, where we
Speaker 3: were headed. I mean it what apparently didn't break any
Speaker 3: sort of traffic rule in San Francisco to do that, uh,
Speaker 3: and it was It impressed me. We'll take a break
Speaker 3: six one seven, two ten thirty six one seven nine
Speaker 3: three one ten thirty. If you want to talk about
Speaker 3: Waimo or again autonomous self driving vehicles which exist today
Speaker 3: and are in certain American cities, primarily West Coast cities,
Speaker 3: feel free to join the conversation if you'd like to
Speaker 3: call with an open line comment since uh, you can
Speaker 3: do that as well, and we'll mix them in the
Speaker 3: the final hour. Fair enough, back on Night's Out after.
Speaker 2: This Night's Side with Dan Ray, I'm WBZY Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: All right, gonna go to Will in Long Island. Before
Speaker 3: I do that, let me just say I got some
Speaker 3: open lines six one, seven, two, five, four to ten
Speaker 3: thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty, and
Speaker 3: you can give me open lines anything you'd like to
Speaker 3: talk about. Feel free. I would continue to talk about
Speaker 3: Waimo as well self driving autonomous vehicles. Will, I'll be interested.
Speaker 3: Have you experienced this? You're a fairly worldly guy.
Speaker 6: I actually would not get in something like that, although
Speaker 6: I have thought about it and had opportunities to do that.
Speaker 6: And there's a couple of reasons.
Speaker 3: Why tell me what it was?
Speaker 6: A couple of reasons, guy, Sure?
Speaker 2: One is I am well.
Speaker 6: I was an insurance guy for many years. I'm a
Speaker 6: defensive driver. I like to have control of my vehicle,
Speaker 6: not because I'm worried about necessarily the vehicle that I'm in,
Speaker 6: per se, but because of the other people driving around me.
Speaker 1: I drive in.
Speaker 6: New York, especially in the city, which is one of
Speaker 6: the worst places in the world to drive. I'm more
Speaker 6: concerned about being able to have control over my vehicle,
Speaker 6: looking in all my mirrors, knowing where all the danger
Speaker 6: is and what someone else might do by hitting my car. Right,
Speaker 6: and now I have no control. I can't speed up,
Speaker 6: I can't leave room in front of me when I break,
Speaker 6: somebody barreling down on me from behind. You know all
Speaker 6: of those things, right, So I need to be able
Speaker 6: to control the vehicle. When more people were in autonomous
Speaker 6: vehicles and I weren't other people driving on the road,
Speaker 6: I'd probably be a little more.
Speaker 1: Apt to do it.
Speaker 6: But also when you're talking about but.
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know just you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know if there's something I haven't heard of many
Speaker 3: accidents involving way mosh but and so I don't know
Speaker 3: if there's something in the system which allows them, which
Speaker 3: would allow the waymold to take a successful evasive action.
Speaker 3: Let's say somebody was driving the wrong way down the.
Speaker 6: Street right, or maybe blowing a red light. Though these
Speaker 6: are things that I don't know what type of technology
Speaker 6: you could implement that would be able to stop that.
Speaker 6: But when other vehicles are all connected and they're talking
Speaker 6: to each other, maybe that would be different. But then
Speaker 6: when you're talking about hacking the vehicle, I'm more concerned
Speaker 6: not somebody would hack it to be a nuisance, that
Speaker 6: somebody would hack the vehicle to use it as a weapon,
Speaker 6: a hijacked weapon that you could run into crowds of
Speaker 6: people or something like that. So the more of them
Speaker 6: that are on the road, there are nefarious actors around
Speaker 6: the world that would love to be able to utilize
Speaker 6: vehicles that they can hack into. I'm sure there'll be
Speaker 6: safety guards in place, but you wouldn't be a great
Speaker 6: hacker if you weren't able to get past those type
Speaker 6: of things. Right, So now you have that's.
Speaker 3: I'm not I did not think of that either. That's
Speaker 3: a legitimate concern.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, I mean, listen, they could get into your
Speaker 6: home cameras. They could do all types of things again
Speaker 6: to your computer cameras, feel your identity. All these different things.
Speaker 6: Now they're going to have you know, pretty much rolling
Speaker 6: weapons that they will be able to access and control,
Speaker 6: not just with maybe targets inside the vehicle that they'd
Speaker 6: like to control, but maybe put those you know, vehicles
Speaker 6: into you know, like you know, hitting crowds of people,
Speaker 6: and we see people do that. So you know, I
Speaker 6: wouldn't put it past somebody that wants to you know,
Speaker 6: have a terrorist act, you know, use those type of vehicles.
Speaker 6: It would be probably one of their prime things to
Speaker 6: do when when when the proliferation of those vehicles are around.
Speaker 6: And then one last thing, you know, you had a
Speaker 6: guy talking about billionaires taking over Washington. I just would
Speaker 6: like to mention to him, billionaires have been taking over
Speaker 6: Washington since Rockefeller. Okay, there have been billionaires control at
Speaker 6: least this billionaires.
Speaker 3: I believe he doesn't like that. Look you I obviously
Speaker 3: I let the guy go Jack from framing him. He
Speaker 3: doesn't like these billionaires. I'm sure that if I asked
Speaker 3: him about George Soros, he's probably got a picture of
Speaker 3: George Soros with a Vote of candle on his wall.
Speaker 6: So but my point is, you know, to pretend that
Speaker 6: billionaires haven't in this plutocracy that we've had for so long,
Speaker 6: haven't been bribing our politicians and led. More legislation is
Speaker 6: written by billionaires than angry mobs of voters. And that's
Speaker 6: a proven fact that. And they've been doing this to
Speaker 6: us for years at least these guys, I knew from
Speaker 6: get go what they wanted to do. I knew what
Speaker 6: Trump wanted. He's been telling me for you know, eight years,
Speaker 6: what he wanted to do. So I voted for this billionaire.
Speaker 6: They weren't behind my back paying politicians to do their
Speaker 6: dirty work and pretend that they were righteously doing it
Speaker 6: in votes in Congress. Okay, it's disagree it for me, it's.
Speaker 3: It's I understand your analysis, But for me, it's simpler
Speaker 3: than that. Neither party has clean hands. We have a
Speaker 3: system which is the someone said it's the it's the
Speaker 3: second worst system in the history of the world. You know,
Speaker 3: all the others are the worst. I mean, we have
Speaker 3: freedoms in this country. Jack was he've got very upset
Speaker 3: with me. I put him on the air. I gave
Speaker 3: him an opportunity. I knew exactly what he was going
Speaker 3: to say. I heard about this this boycott day that's fine,
Speaker 3: that's fine.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That I give everybody a chance. But I wanted him
Speaker 3: to know. I didn't want him to think that that
Speaker 3: I was dumb and I didn't and that I supported
Speaker 3: what he's doing. If people don't want to purchase items
Speaker 3: tomorrow and they want to stay home and contemplate their
Speaker 3: navel and have a contemplate your naval day, go for it.
Speaker 3: Enjoy yourself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I believe in free speech. I'm you know that.
Speaker 6: I'm a free speech purist to me. So there's no
Speaker 6: more free speech than cancel culture and boycotts and all that.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, if you ask me what
Speaker 6: really got but uh, you know, black people to be
Speaker 6: able to sit on the front of the bus at
Speaker 6: that time, it wasn't the civil rights legislation. It was
Speaker 6: the boycotts of the Montgomery Bus Boys. Montgomery Bus Company.
Speaker 6: They realized they were losing all their ridership and they
Speaker 6: were ready to They were like, I'm sorry, please, we'll
Speaker 6: come back. So that's that's great, but you know, let's
Speaker 6: let's be real. This country has been being run by
Speaker 6: billionaires behind the scenes for a long long time, and
Speaker 6: before that, they were just one hundred millionaires, you know,
Speaker 6: So it's it's it's absurd to think that these two
Speaker 6: guys are the only billionaires that have been pulling the strips.
Speaker 3: Thanks all right, Thanks Bill Bigging, a great one. Good night.
Speaker 3: Let's keep rolling here, a little open lines, a little
Speaker 3: bit of talk about WAYMO Matthew in Pembroke. Matthew, you
Speaker 3: were next one night side. Welcome.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, Dan, I would love to go to work
Speaker 5: and not have to drive every day, and I could
Speaker 5: have it in autonomous vehicle. What I'd really like to
Speaker 5: have is the ones in the sky with the six
Speaker 5: blades and have that take that to work every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's going to take longer, but it's conceivable.
Speaker 5: I don't know how old are you, matt I am
Speaker 5: fifty two.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well maybe within your working lifetime, okay, maybe within
Speaker 3: your working lifetime, you will be able to buy one
Speaker 3: of these cars and instead of sitting going crazy in
Speaker 3: traffic as you probably go are now, you'll be able
Speaker 3: to sit there with your newspaper if they still have newspapers,
Speaker 3: home with your laptop computer and be very efficient and
Speaker 3: effective and uh and and get some of your work
Speaker 3: done on the way to work and without jeopardizing yourself
Speaker 3: or your other passengers.
Speaker 5: And then on the way home, I could stop and
Speaker 5: have two biers and not feel guilty driving.
Speaker 3: And I suspect that if you're sitting in the backseat
Speaker 3: of the car, you'll be able to do that. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be ye, you're gonna have all these laws. You know,
Speaker 3: it's gonna it's gonna say, and again it'll be interesting,
Speaker 3: like what type of autonomous vehicle you have? But have
Speaker 3: you ever been Have you ever had to ride in
Speaker 3: one of these cars? Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I have it.
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 6: I did once.
Speaker 3: I take one in San Francisco and it was delightful.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, you could. When you when you
Speaker 3: when you're in a car with someone else driving, you're
Speaker 3: watching them, uh and making sure it's just a normal
Speaker 3: human impulse. Youre want to make sure that they're paying
Speaker 3: attention and that if all all of a sudden there's
Speaker 3: there's something that's that's jumping out. Not that you're a
Speaker 3: backseat driver, but you just don't want to be be helpful.
Speaker 5: The air line does it right? Was that what they're
Speaker 5: they're the airlines, they all their planes are you know,
Speaker 5: they they are controlled by computers. You know, I'll just
Speaker 5: need to push a button right before they go to
Speaker 5: land and they take over.
Speaker 3: Yeah again, you probably know more about that than I do.
Speaker 3: But obviously there's plenty of times when they put the
Speaker 3: plane on, it's at thirty five thousand feet and they're
Speaker 3: flying across the Atlantic Ocean. And sure you know, at
Speaker 3: times I'm told that pilots can actually take a nap,
Speaker 3: or one of the pilots can take a nap.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not bad. Can I say something quick?
Speaker 1: Off topic?
Speaker 3: Open lines? Here? Go ahead.
Speaker 5: So we vote for what we want if we're a
Speaker 5: Republican or Democrats, and how we vote is what we
Speaker 5: want from a person, whether it could be we know
Speaker 5: someone like when Kennedy was in office, he did stuff that,
Speaker 5: he got stuff done. So if we want to bridge
Speaker 5: in Massachusetts, we'd put Kennedy and if he was around
Speaker 5: these days. Right, So, everyone wants and wants and wants,
Speaker 5: and with the deficits, we can't think like this anymore,
Speaker 5: and we can't vote just because what we want. We
Speaker 5: need to come up with a different type of voting,
Speaker 5: so you're not only you're voting for some one, but
Speaker 5: in a different way somehow that they're not thinking. I'm
Speaker 5: not just thinking of myself. I need to be able
Speaker 5: to think about my grandchildren and the debt that they're
Speaker 5: not going to have that we need to start dealing
Speaker 5: with now. But the way we vote, and we vote
Speaker 5: by that politician to do what they're going to do
Speaker 5: for us, is not going to work to save the
Speaker 5: debt because no one will take that on because they
Speaker 5: won't get votes.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a huge problem we have. We've talked about
Speaker 3: that several times in the last six months and we'll
Speaker 3: continue to talk about it. We have a thirty six
Speaker 3: zero point three trillion dollar federal debt.
Speaker 5: And the only reason that these Democrats and Republicans won't
Speaker 5: take that on is because of the vote and they
Speaker 5: won't get elected.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that. I think it's an incredible amount
Speaker 3: of money. And at the end of the road here
Speaker 3: my generation, I'm a baby boomer, my generation probably is
Speaker 3: going to escape our responsibility. You know, we talk about
Speaker 3: the Greatest Generation and the sacrifice that our parents made
Speaker 3: in the depression in World War Two. I think to
Speaker 3: some extent my generation is a pretty selfish generation, and
Speaker 3: that we have elected politicians who have run up. Republicans
Speaker 3: and Democrats alike run run out the debt, the debt,
Speaker 3: the deficit every year.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Trump is trying to turn that around. Now, he's a
Speaker 3: little heavy handed at this point, and people can disagree
Speaker 3: with the UH, the procedure and UH and and all
Speaker 3: of that. But if he's able to eliminate or show
Speaker 3: that there's real there's a substantial amount of waste in government,
Speaker 3: he can. He might be remembered as as a president
Speaker 3: who turned it around. The Brottom line is I would
Speaker 3: give you, I'll give you one of the number you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, gross domestic products. All the money
Speaker 3: that we spend in a year in America, every penny.
Speaker 5: Do you know how much that amounts to in one
Speaker 5: year of national growth over one year on national gross product?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well, the the the debt is thirty it
Speaker 3: is thirty six point three trillion yep, our federal our
Speaker 3: gross domestic product, it's only like twenty eight trillion dollars.
Speaker 5: So most of the countries, once they go past that point, yes,
Speaker 5: they don't come back.
Speaker 3: We're in We're in Banana Republic territory, and it's only
Speaker 3: getting getting deeper. We're digging ourselves deeper. So it may
Speaker 3: be that this administration is going to be able to
Speaker 3: change the direction of our ship of state. We'll have
Speaker 3: to see what happens.
Speaker 5: I hope see. I would if I was in office,
Speaker 5: I'd cut everything across the board and get rid of
Speaker 5: foreign money going across to all these other countries, and
Speaker 5: worry about ourselves right now till we get back on
Speaker 5: an even keel. Well everything site, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you may have to cut it more,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you in terms of stuff like that.
Speaker 3: We'll see, Matthew, continue to call this program. You I
Speaker 3: need your voice. Thank you very much, thank you. We're
Speaker 3: gonna take a break back on night side. I've got
Speaker 3: a room for at least another one or two. Okay,
Speaker 3: we got we got three here. We'll get them all
Speaker 3: in coming back on night side, Dan Glenn, and we'll
Speaker 3: get all three of these calls coming back on nightside.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: Nightside Studios on' WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go to Glenn and Brighton Glenn next to
Speaker 3: the night Side. This is open lines. Go ahead, Glen
Speaker 3: if you like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, very quick on the just so driving cars.
Speaker 1: I remember what Stephen King had a scary movie called Christine.
Speaker 1: It was the name of our car that drove itself.
Speaker 1: I think it was back on the late eighties or anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could. He he's got is an interesting guy.
Speaker 3: He sort of saw the future. But what else on
Speaker 3: your mind?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 1: Well, my only question on the on the cars, And
Speaker 1: then I had another topic quick, my question, how does
Speaker 1: it know if a police office is waving his n
Speaker 1: hand whether it's stop or it can go ahead?
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question. It is equipped with cameras
Speaker 3: that are at the on the hood of the roof
Speaker 3: of the car, so it could.
Speaker 1: Be that that.
Speaker 3: That it recognizes someone standing between whether it's a civilian
Speaker 3: or a police officer, that it could recognize thee the
Speaker 3: form of a human body. I'm not an expert in
Speaker 3: weymoul So, so people have asked some really good questions
Speaker 3: to which I've not been able to answer. And I'll
Speaker 3: put that one in that I can't answer that category. Uh,
Speaker 3: that category with any certainty. Go ahead, what else you
Speaker 3: want to say?
Speaker 1: I heard something on the radio that scares a will
Speaker 1: me and as you know, I'm dugging, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: still a Trump supporter. But this thing, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you hear about this gold card where we're gonna
Speaker 1: stay about a foreigner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, police propose that, Yeah, five million dollars and they
Speaker 3: would get I guess the equivalent of a visa which
Speaker 3: would allow them to praying their way to a citizenship.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. How do we know do they vet these people?
Speaker 1: They could be a spy for China. I mean, they
Speaker 1: could be a spy for souls. How do we know?
Speaker 3: I would bet you they would figure out a vetting process,
Speaker 3: and in my opinion, but it's one of those subjects
Speaker 3: that we're going to talk about maybe later this week,
Speaker 3: maybe next week. And you raise some legitimate questions. I
Speaker 3: have a great audience, pan and you're part of that audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, proud to be.
Speaker 3: And and certainly Will from Long Island raised some great
Speaker 3: questions to Jerry from Michigan earlier and Warren I get
Speaker 3: great callers. It was funny. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: heard Susan from Belmont tonight. Her son works for WAMO.
Speaker 3: And it's a small world out there.
Speaker 1: Glen.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna run and we will talk soon.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: I have a great name. I'm gonna go next to
Speaker 3: Dan is in Brookline. Dan, You're next one night saga,
Speaker 3: right head shirt?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan.
Speaker 11: Two things that relate to what up in here in
Speaker 11: the last hour. So first off, on the billionaires. You
Speaker 11: know Elon Musk, what he has done for our planet
Speaker 11: and for the people on our planet is immeasurable, right,
Speaker 11: I mean, rockets, self driving cars, internet access through satellites.
Speaker 11: I mean, the guy is a genius. And you know,
Speaker 11: is he a billionaire? Yes, he is, and I think
Speaker 11: he deserves it.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, the left, the left loved him back
Speaker 3: in the day. The left loved him right where he
Speaker 3: was concerned about ev cars and all of that, and
Speaker 3: now they don't like it. I don't know.
Speaker 11: So that brings me to my second point, which is
Speaker 11: I have a Tesla and I've been driving once since
Speaker 11: about twenty nineteen. I've done one hundred and thirty thousand
Speaker 11: miles of self driving and the technology it's I mean,
Speaker 11: it's basically here.
Speaker 10: Most of most.
Speaker 11: Of the one hundred and thirty thousand miles have been
Speaker 11: on the highway, and that's just I mean, that's there.
Speaker 11: Like you, you know, you sit back, I eat my breakfast,
Speaker 11: in the morning whilst driving me to work. And it
Speaker 11: has allowed me to run a company. I have a
Speaker 11: small business. I employed nine people, and I wouldn't be
Speaker 11: able to do it without the technology that he built,
Speaker 11: because I wouldn't be able to do the amount of
Speaker 11: driving that I do. I do like thirty five thousand
Speaker 11: miles a year.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you. You're in a self driving
Speaker 3: I've never had a Tesla, So when you're in a
Speaker 3: self driving mode? What happens if all of a sudden
Speaker 3: somebody stops in front of you? Does the Tesla slow
Speaker 3: down and stop to avoid the accident or do you
Speaker 3: have to at that point taken roll the car?
Speaker 2: No, it does.
Speaker 11: I mean, you're you're an idiot if you're not paying attention,
Speaker 11: and at that point, you know you would want to
Speaker 11: grab the wheel. But if you didn't grab the wheel,
Speaker 11: I have every bit of confidence that it would stop
Speaker 11: and I would not get in that accident.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know.
Speaker 11: And then and recently the what they call like the
Speaker 11: full self driving, which is what it can do on
Speaker 11: like the city streets. I'd say about six maybe eight
Speaker 11: months ago is when that really got to the point
Speaker 11: where I trust it. And now the full self driving.
Speaker 11: I mean it takes me around Brookline, it takes me
Speaker 11: from my driveway two Route nine and two Root nine
Speaker 11: to the highways, and I mean it's just it's incredible.
Speaker 11: And again, if it wasn't for Elon Musk, I wouldn't
Speaker 11: have that car. I don't know how I would run
Speaker 11: this business. I don't know how I would employ those people.
Speaker 11: It all comes full circle there. You know, it's like
Speaker 11: that's what that's what people like him do.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I'm with you. You know that, Dan.
Speaker 3: I appreciate your call. Keep calling this program.
Speaker 11: Okay, all right, tay these Dan, thank you.
Speaker 3: You didn't appreciate it. Let me go next to Tim
Speaker 3: and Winford. Tim were tight on time, Go right ahead, Okay.
Speaker 7: I confronted a liberal tonight and he started, get me blooney,
Speaker 7: and I said, listen, U, seventy six percent of the
Speaker 7: people in the United States they've spoken in the election.
Speaker 7: You've got nothing to say. You've got creamed. That's why
Speaker 7: I said, you've got nothing said.
Speaker 3: The election wasn't seventy six percent. I mean you know that,
Speaker 3: it was like.
Speaker 7: No, seventy six percent support the Muskin and the what
Speaker 7: he's doing with the.
Speaker 3: Doge seventy six million, he said.
Speaker 7: He They said seventy six percent on the main main channels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're overstating that. To be honest with you,
Speaker 3: I think that that uh Trump has had some support,
Speaker 3: But I don't know that the Doge thing. I think
Speaker 3: that some of the numbers about deport test deport deporting
Speaker 3: illegals who have committed violent crimes is up around that number.
Speaker 3: But either way, that's the one.
Speaker 7: That's one I was talking about. The main one that
Speaker 7: was and what he's doing is doing a great job.
Speaker 7: So keep it up. I think we're doing great the best,
Speaker 7: says Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3: I say, all right, thank you much, appreciate it. Thanks
Speaker 3: dam good night. Are we gonna get one more in here?
Speaker 3: What do we got left? About a minute? Rob? What
Speaker 3: do we got? Minute? Okay? Joe, I give you about
Speaker 3: thirty seconds? What do you got?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 12: Thank you very much. I agree with Glenn, and I
Speaker 12: hope you do a thing on the Gold card because
Speaker 12: I don't like it.
Speaker 5: It's scary.
Speaker 12: I don't trust him. Automatic driving cars, someday, tell us
Speaker 12: how you programmed when you you and your daughter and
Speaker 12: your son took around took it right.
Speaker 3: But that's the program, and it programs itself. It tells
Speaker 3: you you you tell them. You you call, or you
Speaker 3: you put in where you are shat up and where
Speaker 3: you want to go. Yeah, you call and they send
Speaker 3: the car. It's just like sending an uber without a driver, simplest.
Speaker 12: Oh my god, good luck.
Speaker 5: Yeah all right, right, I agree.
Speaker 3: If you call earlier, you get more time. But I'm
Speaker 3: out of time.
Speaker 12: Thank you very much, take care, bye bye.
Speaker 3: Great night, good night. Okay. I want to thank everyone tonight.
Speaker 3: We did a different show tonight. I will be on
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Speaker 3: or so. I want to thank Rob Brooks. Great job,
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