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<v Speaker 1>Time for the weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Dine.

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<v Speaker 1>First, one of what the forecast tells us today is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a sunny day going up to fifty four,

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<v Speaker 1>down to thirty five overnight clear, put some frost Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>sunny and sixty two more frost overnight Thursday with clear

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<v Speaker 1>skies in a little thirty seven and then a sunny

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<v Speaker 1>Friday with IM sixty eight. It is thirty seven right

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<v Speaker 1>now here. For the Buck care Seaton talk station, Chuck Ingram,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>With traffic from the UCL Tramphics Center. Mammogram saved Vive's

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<v Speaker 3>called five one three five eight four pink. It's because

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<v Speaker 3>of your annual mammogram with you see hewsanks per team.

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<v Speaker 3>That's five one three, five to eight four pink. Cruise

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<v Speaker 3>continue to work for the Rex Seth Band. Seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>neer seventh left wing block heading into downtown traffic packing

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<v Speaker 3>up pass toppole. You're in for an extra twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>through the block when split into the town in Bend.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy four, there's an accident near Montana right hand side

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<v Speaker 3>and slow traffic northbound seventy one across the Jeremiah Morrow Bridge,

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<v Speaker 3>right lanes blocked up improved coming up next. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>hard to figure out which judge to root for when

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<v Speaker 3>you've got Aaron Judge, who has three RBIs on a

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<v Speaker 3>home run y last night, and then you had Mandy Judge, well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen her since college, and then our next guest,

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<v Speaker 3>so I guess you're gonna have to be the judge.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there's more choices, Chuck ingramon fifty five KRC, the

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<v Speaker 3>talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only pray whoever Mandy Judges. She was in

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<v Speaker 1>the listening audience when Ingram made that statement, you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen her since college. Judge entered Apolitano. One of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite times of the week is my conversations with you,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Welcome back your honor.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian, and thank you for the generous comments

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<v Speaker 2>you made about our work together. It's an absolute pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>and it is one of my favorite times of the

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<v Speaker 2>week as well. And Aaron Judge did have quite an

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<v Speaker 2>evening last night, through which I slept because, like you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go to bed just after sundown. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's a weird, weird hours that we work,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's all worth it because you know, I get

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<v Speaker 1>times like this to speak with you and absorb the

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<v Speaker 1>brilliance of your op ed piece, which my listeners will

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get tonight. Who cares what the government thinks?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you and I obviously strong believers in our

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment rights, which precedes the government, as you articulate

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<v Speaker 1>and spell out so well at the outset. But the

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<v Speaker 1>question then pivots over to something that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>many people really have considered your point about whether the

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<v Speaker 1>government has the freedom of speech and can the government

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<v Speaker 1>articulate specific views and visions of life that and force

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<v Speaker 1>us to toe the line with what they have concluded.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever they happen to be, is is right? And appointed

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<v Speaker 1>doubt stated differently the column headline, who cares what the

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<v Speaker 1>government thinks? Let's talk about this, your honor.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when I was a professor at Brooklyn Law School,

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<v Speaker 2>I was privileged to do a one on one program

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<v Speaker 2>with Justice Scalia. Now this was not a Fox program.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just me questioning him and him going back

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<v Speaker 2>at me in front of twenty five one hundred people

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<v Speaker 2>at the Brooklyn Academy of Music, and it was sponsored

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<v Speaker 2>by the law school. On the entire legal community was there.

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<v Speaker 2>He took the opposite view. He claimed that the government

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<v Speaker 2>does have the freedom of speech. It's got to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you things like twenty five miles an hour, this is

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<v Speaker 2>amend's room, this is a lady's room. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>everybody laughed because that's not what I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm talking about is when the government gets involved

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<v Speaker 2>in political speech and uses its political speech to dial

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<v Speaker 2>back the speech of those with whom it disagrees. And

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<v Speaker 2>what brought this to mind to mind was a very

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<v Speaker 2>little noticed story last week involving Elon Musk. I've written

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<v Speaker 2>by Elon Musk twice in one week. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>government stifled his freedom of speech when it served an

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<v Speaker 2>order on x formerly known as Twitter, for the contents

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<v Speaker 2>of Donald Trump's iPhone or mobile device. And Musk wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to tell Trump and the court said, no, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it in the Supreme Court refused to overturn that.

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<v Speaker 2>Again this week, he asked the California Coastal Commission, which

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<v Speaker 2>is an appointed body nominated by the governor, confirmed by

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<v Speaker 2>the state Senate, and it regulates the use of private property.

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<v Speaker 2>No surprise in California, so he needed permission from the

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<v Speaker 2>California Coastal Commission. To launch one of his spaceships from

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<v Speaker 2>his own launchpad on his own property, and in debating

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not to do that, two members of the commission,

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<v Speaker 2>there's only five of them, said, well, he uttered political

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<v Speaker 2>falsehoods about FEMA and Federalurgency Management Administration and about climate control,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore we don't trust him, and therefore we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to vote against him. This is the government evaluating the

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<v Speaker 2>content of someone else's speech. This is the government advancing

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<v Speaker 2>its own version of speech and punishing the person with

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<v Speaker 2>whom it disagrees. Where there safety issues, no, whether mechanical issues, no,

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<v Speaker 2>whether engineering issues, no, it was just his politics that

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<v Speaker 2>prevented them from giving him the right to use his

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<v Speaker 2>property as he sees fit, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course will provide him a vehicle to go to

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<v Speaker 1>court infringing on his First Amendment rights to utter whatever

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk wants to utter. Independent of again, safety issues.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a twenty five mile on hour speed and

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<v Speaker 1>we need those because children are around or crossing the

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<v Speaker 1>street or whatever. Understand that that's not a free speech issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a safety issue. This isn't anything like that. This

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<v Speaker 1>is simply saying no, Elon Musk we don't like you.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't like your political leanings. We don't like that

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<v Speaker 1>you support Trump. Now you can't engage in otherwise lawful activity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, i'll tell you what God under justice scaliest skin.

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<v Speaker 2>What I did to get under his skin. When we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about this, knowing how Catholic he is and

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<v Speaker 2>how he studied aquinas as I did, and now he

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<v Speaker 2>understands natural rights, I threw that one liner that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of professors throw at law students, not a brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>legal scholar like he was. If the States enacted ratified

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<v Speaker 2>an amendment to repeal the First Amendment, would we still

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<v Speaker 2>have the freedom of speech? And the answer is, well, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>of course we would. It's a natural right. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>come from the government. It comes to our humanity. And

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<v Speaker 2>he gave that answer, Well, how can the government have

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<v Speaker 2>a natural right. The government is an unnaturally existing creature

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<v Speaker 2>created by God. The government is something we've created to

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<v Speaker 2>protect our natural rights, and of course it ends up

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<v Speaker 2>taking them away from us. So he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that. He looked at me and he goes, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a freak for the natural rights. This was a Friday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>By Monday, morning, there were coffee mugs all over the

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<v Speaker 2>law school that said, freak for them. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how the kids did this. Freak for the natural law.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But my point is the freedom of speech, like the

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<v Speaker 2>other freedoms protected in the First Amendment, they don't come

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<v Speaker 2>from the Bill of Rights. They don't come from the government.

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<v Speaker 2>They come from our humanity. The Bill of Rights consists

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<v Speaker 2>of negative rights. It restrains the government from interfering with them.

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<v Speaker 2>If the government has those same rights and competes with us,

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<v Speaker 2>if the government can compete with individuals in the marketplace

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<v Speaker 2>of ideas, the government will always win.

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<v Speaker 4>Its megaphone is louder. It has an army to back

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<v Speaker 4>up what it's going to say. It is profoundly unfair, unjust,

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<v Speaker 4>and illogical for the government to have the same free

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<v Speaker 4>speech rights as the rest of us. And when the

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<v Speaker 4>government does what this California Coastal Commission did, it is

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<v Speaker 4>the duty of the courts to invalidate it, and I expect.

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<v Speaker 1>That they will indeed, and a most notably adding insult

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<v Speaker 1>to injury on your very point. There, they have that

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<v Speaker 1>huge army of folks that obviously outnumber maybe our individual

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<v Speaker 1>voices and can create this megaphone of a message, trumping

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<v Speaker 1>our nupun trumping our ability to get a message out.

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<v Speaker 1>But they do it on our money, our labor converted

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<v Speaker 1>into tax dollars gives them all the ammunition and ability

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<v Speaker 1>to suppress our message.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at what the government coerced big tech into doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Suppress these ideas. Oh, it's unsafe. Bobby Kennedy is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>When he says something about vaccines, you've got to suppress it. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>But when the CDC says something about vaccines, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to push it up in your algorithm. Push it up

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<v Speaker 2>in your algorithm, will go easy on you. Don't suppress it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna have a swarm of government people looking

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<v Speaker 2>under every refrigerator in your headquarters. That's how the government operates,

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<v Speaker 2>with a carrent and with a stick to interfere with

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<v Speaker 2>the freedom of speech.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get too much of the details with the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court. I believe it was just yesterday throughout a

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<v Speaker 1>ruling from the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a citizen journalist. She was reporting on police

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<v Speaker 1>activity and border patrol activity. And she in reporting got

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<v Speaker 1>information and she went to the police department, had someone

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<v Speaker 1>inside the Laredo Police Department who verified the information she

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<v Speaker 1>was reporting on. They arrested her for working with that

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<v Speaker 1>internal source and reporting on that because some obscure law

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<v Speaker 1>says it's illegal to solicit non public information if the

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<v Speaker 1>person asking intended to benefit from it. Apparently the origins

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<v Speaker 1>of law were like insider trading. You know, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get inside of training and benefited financially. They said that

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<v Speaker 1>her presence on Facebook might benefit from this reporting. Ergo,

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<v Speaker 1>it was illegal conduct as she wonted the original opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>but an unbound decision by the full phys ceror Court

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<v Speaker 1>of Appeals said no and absurdly. And this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons I wanted to get to this, and

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<v Speaker 1>pardon me being long winded about it. They're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media or valid standard journalism. Citizen journalists has

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<v Speaker 1>every bit as much of a right as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>graduated from law school with a journalism degree to say

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<v Speaker 1>what they want in any social media format or elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this real journalist?

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<v Speaker 2>What the government will do when it fears the truth?

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<v Speaker 2>This is what they said about Julian Assange. Well, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a real journalist. He's not in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>All he does is exposed is stolen secrets. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what journalists do. This lady. Her journalism consists of posting

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<v Speaker 2>pieces on her her Facebook page. She has two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand followers, which is more than any newspaper has in

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<v Speaker 2>the Laredo, Texas area. She sued the police. The trial

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<v Speaker 2>court threw it out. She appealed to the Fifth Circuit.

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<v Speaker 2>A three judge panel reinstated it. The government appealed to

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<v Speaker 2>the full Fifth Circuit. They threw it out. She appealed

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<v Speaker 2>to the Supreme Court, and they said, back to the

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<v Speaker 2>trial court for a trial. Who the heck are you

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<v Speaker 2>to arrest somebody because they asked you a question about

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of public interest. This is how horrific the

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<v Speaker 2>government can be when it fears the truth in the

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<v Speaker 2>exposure of what it's been up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the latter seems to be the bigger problem

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<v Speaker 1>for those in government these days. Judge Anapolitano, brilliant as

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<v Speaker 1>always and force fighting hard for the to maintain and god.

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<v Speaker 2>Government on this Your Bengals really took it to my

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<v Speaker 2>giants on much better. They played a much better game

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<v Speaker 2>than we did, and they deserved the victory.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I'm inclined to want to say

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<v Speaker 1>even a blind squirrel finds it not occasionally, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least we can say we have a victory under our

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<v Speaker 1>belts at this point, Judge, sorry, you came at the

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<v Speaker 1>expense of your team, but you know, we take what

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<v Speaker 1>we can get around here in Cincinnati. Now, let us

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<v Speaker 1>pivot over to judging freedom, your podcasts, and who you

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<v Speaker 2>Colonel Douglas McGregor at eleven o'clock this morning on the

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<v Speaker 2>latest in Ukraine where the government is just about to collapse,

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<v Speaker 2>hanging on until let's see how long do they have

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<v Speaker 2>to hang on till November sixth? And the latest in Israel?

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<v Speaker 2>Will the Israelis attack Iran because they can't do it

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<v Speaker 2>without American assistance? And Joe Biden doesn't seem to want

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<v Speaker 2>to start World War three until after November sixth?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Really? And the other thing, and I talked with

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<v Speaker 1>the Daniel Davis Deep Divers, the retired lieutenant colonel, and

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him about the Israel's interceptor missiles and I

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<v Speaker 1>They do have a finite supply of those, and they're really, really,

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<v Speaker 1>really expensive. And apparently the rebels, whether they're in Gaza

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<v Speaker 1>point won't the Israeli defense systems get exhausted with this

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<v Speaker 1>constant onslaught of rockets. Yes they will, Yes, they will,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they will.

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<v Speaker 2>And even what we sent the other day, where the

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<v Speaker 2>missles are that we sent are a million dollars each each,

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<v Speaker 2>we only sent forty eight of them. Now these things

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<v Speaker 2>have a dud at the head of them. They're not explosive.

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<v Speaker 2>What they do is they destroy an incoming missile and

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<v Speaker 2>the impact is what causes it to explode. So do

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<v Speaker 2>the math We sent the israelis forty eight, the other

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<v Speaker 1>That's my take on the whole thing. It's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where this is going to go. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the question I'm putting to Colonel mcgregors, can Israel survive

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<v Speaker 2>nets in Yahoo? Can it possibly survive all these wars,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how much American aid we give them. The

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<v Speaker 2>other day, the Israelis attacked you and peacekeepers. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>war crime under international law. So this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>get worse before it gets better. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be anything dramatic again without sounding facetious, until after

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<v Speaker 2>election day.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll keep their powder dry till after the election. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when it's all going to hit the fan. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners are all that mind. Jud Jenna Polatano. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think pleasure to have you on my program every week.

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to it already for next Wednesday. God

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<v Speaker 1>bless you, sir. Have a wonderful, wonderful time between now

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<v Speaker 1>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian. Right back at you.

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<v Speaker 4>Years of the United States have turned into months.

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<v Speaker 3>Nomination for president.

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<v Speaker 1>In two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>President today the most important day.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is it the time for talk is over.

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<v Speaker 3>Our big game.

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<v Speaker 2>Big game game is here.

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<v Speaker 4>Worth of the election world to play by play.

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<v Speaker 2>Any battlegrounds, watching the swing.

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<v Speaker 1>Stage and the final score the Electoral College votes. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win.

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<v Speaker 3>We will win.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRC the talk station