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Speaker 3: hard to figure out which judge to root for when
Speaker 3: you've got Aaron Judge, who has three RBIs on a
Speaker 3: home run y last night, and then you had Mandy Judge, well, no,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen her since college, and then our next guest,
Speaker 3: so I guess you're gonna have to be the judge.
Speaker 3: Now there's more choices, Chuck ingramon fifty five KRC, the
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Speaker 1: I can only pray whoever Mandy Judges. She was in
Speaker 1: the listening audience when Ingram made that statement, you haven't
Speaker 1: seen her since college. Judge entered Apolitano. One of my
Speaker 1: favorite times of the week is my conversations with you,
Speaker 1: my friend. Welcome back your honor.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian, and thank you for the generous comments
Speaker 2: you made about our work together. It's an absolute pleasure
Speaker 2: and it is one of my favorite times of the
Speaker 2: week as well. And Aaron Judge did have quite an
Speaker 2: evening last night, through which I slept because, like you
Speaker 2: have to go to bed just after sundown. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, it's a weird, weird hours that we work,
Speaker 1: but it's all worth it because you know, I get
Speaker 1: times like this to speak with you and absorb the
Speaker 1: brilliance of your op ed piece, which my listeners will
Speaker 1: be able to get tonight. Who cares what the government thinks?
Speaker 1: You know, you and I obviously strong believers in our
Speaker 1: First Amendment rights, which precedes the government, as you articulate
Speaker 1: and spell out so well at the outset. But the
Speaker 1: question then pivots over to something that I don't think
Speaker 1: many people really have considered your point about whether the
Speaker 1: government has the freedom of speech and can the government
Speaker 1: articulate specific views and visions of life that and force
Speaker 1: us to toe the line with what they have concluded.
Speaker 1: Whoever they happen to be, is is right? And appointed
Speaker 1: doubt stated differently the column headline, who cares what the
Speaker 1: government thinks? Let's talk about this, your honor.
Speaker 2: You know, when I was a professor at Brooklyn Law School,
Speaker 2: I was privileged to do a one on one program
Speaker 2: with Justice Scalia. Now this was not a Fox program.
Speaker 2: This was just me questioning him and him going back
Speaker 2: at me in front of twenty five one hundred people
Speaker 2: at the Brooklyn Academy of Music, and it was sponsored
Speaker 2: by the law school. On the entire legal community was there.
Speaker 2: He took the opposite view. He claimed that the government
Speaker 2: does have the freedom of speech. It's got to tell
Speaker 2: you things like twenty five miles an hour, this is
Speaker 2: amend's room, this is a lady's room. And of course
Speaker 2: everybody laughed because that's not what I was talking about.
Speaker 2: What I'm talking about is when the government gets involved
Speaker 2: in political speech and uses its political speech to dial
Speaker 2: back the speech of those with whom it disagrees. And
Speaker 2: what brought this to mind to mind was a very
Speaker 2: little noticed story last week involving Elon Musk. I've written
Speaker 2: by Elon Musk twice in one week. I mean, the
Speaker 2: government stifled his freedom of speech when it served an
Speaker 2: order on x formerly known as Twitter, for the contents
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump's iPhone or mobile device. And Musk wanted
Speaker 2: to tell Trump and the court said, no, you can't
Speaker 2: talk about it in the Supreme Court refused to overturn that.
Speaker 2: Again this week, he asked the California Coastal Commission, which
Speaker 2: is an appointed body nominated by the governor, confirmed by
Speaker 2: the state Senate, and it regulates the use of private property.
Speaker 2: No surprise in California, so he needed permission from the
Speaker 2: California Coastal Commission. To launch one of his spaceships from
Speaker 2: his own launchpad on his own property, and in debating
Speaker 2: whether or not to do that, two members of the commission,
Speaker 2: there's only five of them, said, well, he uttered political
Speaker 2: falsehoods about FEMA and Federalurgency Management Administration and about climate control,
Speaker 2: and therefore we don't trust him, and therefore we're going
Speaker 2: to vote against him. This is the government evaluating the
Speaker 2: content of someone else's speech. This is the government advancing
Speaker 2: its own version of speech and punishing the person with
Speaker 2: whom it disagrees. Where there safety issues, no, whether mechanical issues, no,
Speaker 2: whether engineering issues, no, it was just his politics that
Speaker 2: prevented them from giving him the right to use his
Speaker 2: property as he sees fit, which.
Speaker 1: Of course will provide him a vehicle to go to
Speaker 1: court infringing on his First Amendment rights to utter whatever
Speaker 1: Elon Musk wants to utter. Independent of again, safety issues.
Speaker 1: This isn't a twenty five mile on hour speed and
Speaker 1: we need those because children are around or crossing the
Speaker 1: street or whatever. Understand that that's not a free speech issue.
Speaker 1: It's a safety issue. This isn't anything like that. This
Speaker 1: is simply saying no, Elon Musk we don't like you.
Speaker 1: We don't like your political leanings. We don't like that
Speaker 1: you support Trump. Now you can't engage in otherwise lawful activity.
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what God under justice scaliest skin.
Speaker 2: What I did to get under his skin. When we
Speaker 2: were talking about this, knowing how Catholic he is and
Speaker 2: how he studied aquinas as I did, and now he
Speaker 2: understands natural rights, I threw that one liner that a
Speaker 2: lot of professors throw at law students, not a brilliant
Speaker 2: legal scholar like he was. If the States enacted ratified
Speaker 2: an amendment to repeal the First Amendment, would we still
Speaker 2: have the freedom of speech? And the answer is, well, yes,
Speaker 2: of course we would. It's a natural right. It doesn't
Speaker 2: come from the government. It comes to our humanity. And
Speaker 2: he gave that answer, Well, how can the government have
Speaker 2: a natural right. The government is an unnaturally existing creature
Speaker 2: created by God. The government is something we've created to
Speaker 2: protect our natural rights, and of course it ends up
Speaker 2: taking them away from us. So he didn't want to
Speaker 2: hear that. He looked at me and he goes, you're
Speaker 2: a freak for the natural rights. This was a Friday afternoon.
Speaker 2: By Monday, morning, there were coffee mugs all over the
Speaker 2: law school that said, freak for them. I don't know
Speaker 2: how the kids did this. Freak for the natural law.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: But my point is the freedom of speech, like the
Speaker 2: other freedoms protected in the First Amendment, they don't come
Speaker 2: from the Bill of Rights. They don't come from the government.
Speaker 2: They come from our humanity. The Bill of Rights consists
Speaker 2: of negative rights. It restrains the government from interfering with them.
Speaker 2: If the government has those same rights and competes with us,
Speaker 2: if the government can compete with individuals in the marketplace
Speaker 2: of ideas, the government will always win.
Speaker 4: Its megaphone is louder. It has an army to back
Speaker 4: up what it's going to say. It is profoundly unfair, unjust,
Speaker 4: and illogical for the government to have the same free
Speaker 4: speech rights as the rest of us. And when the
Speaker 4: government does what this California Coastal Commission did, it is
Speaker 4: the duty of the courts to invalidate it, and I expect.
Speaker 1: That they will indeed, and a most notably adding insult
Speaker 1: to injury on your very point. There, they have that
Speaker 1: huge army of folks that obviously outnumber maybe our individual
Speaker 1: voices and can create this megaphone of a message, trumping
Speaker 1: our nupun trumping our ability to get a message out.
Speaker 1: But they do it on our money, our labor converted
Speaker 1: into tax dollars gives them all the ammunition and ability
Speaker 1: to suppress our message.
Speaker 2: Look at what the government coerced big tech into doing.
Speaker 2: Suppress these ideas. Oh, it's unsafe. Bobby Kennedy is crazy.
Speaker 2: When he says something about vaccines, you've got to suppress it. Ah,
Speaker 2: But when the CDC says something about vaccines, you have
Speaker 2: to push it up in your algorithm. Push it up
Speaker 2: in your algorithm, will go easy on you. Don't suppress it,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have a swarm of government people looking
Speaker 2: under every refrigerator in your headquarters. That's how the government operates,
Speaker 2: with a carrent and with a stick to interfere with
Speaker 2: the freedom of speech.
Speaker 1: I don't get too much of the details with the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I believe it was just yesterday throughout a
Speaker 1: ruling from the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in Texas,
Speaker 1: there was a citizen journalist. She was reporting on police
Speaker 1: activity and border patrol activity. And she in reporting got
Speaker 1: information and she went to the police department, had someone
Speaker 1: inside the Laredo Police Department who verified the information she
Speaker 1: was reporting on. They arrested her for working with that
Speaker 1: internal source and reporting on that because some obscure law
Speaker 1: says it's illegal to solicit non public information if the
Speaker 1: person asking intended to benefit from it. Apparently the origins
Speaker 1: of law were like insider trading. You know, you can't
Speaker 1: get inside of training and benefited financially. They said that
Speaker 1: her presence on Facebook might benefit from this reporting. Ergo,
Speaker 1: it was illegal conduct as she wonted the original opinion,
Speaker 1: but an unbound decision by the full phys ceror Court
Speaker 1: of Appeals said no and absurdly. And this is one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted to get to this, and
Speaker 1: pardon me being long winded about it. They're talking about
Speaker 1: the mainstream media or valid standard journalism. Citizen journalists has
Speaker 1: every bit as much of a right as someone who
Speaker 1: graduated from law school with a journalism degree to say
Speaker 1: what they want in any social media format or elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Is this real journalist?
Speaker 2: What the government will do when it fears the truth?
Speaker 2: This is what they said about Julian Assange. Well, he's
Speaker 2: not a real journalist. He's not in the United States.
Speaker 2: All he does is exposed is stolen secrets. Well, that's
Speaker 2: what journalists do. This lady. Her journalism consists of posting
Speaker 2: pieces on her her Facebook page. She has two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand followers, which is more than any newspaper has in
Speaker 2: the Laredo, Texas area. She sued the police. The trial
Speaker 2: court threw it out. She appealed to the Fifth Circuit.
Speaker 2: A three judge panel reinstated it. The government appealed to
Speaker 2: the full Fifth Circuit. They threw it out. She appealed
Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court, and they said, back to the
Speaker 2: trial court for a trial. Who the heck are you
Speaker 2: to arrest somebody because they asked you a question about
Speaker 2: a matter of public interest. This is how horrific the
Speaker 2: government can be when it fears the truth in the
Speaker 2: exposure of what it's been up to.
Speaker 1: Well, in the latter seems to be the bigger problem
Speaker 1: for those in government these days. Judge Anapolitano, brilliant as
Speaker 1: always and force fighting hard for the to maintain and god.
Speaker 2: Government on this Your Bengals really took it to my
Speaker 2: giants on much better. They played a much better game
Speaker 2: than we did, and they deserved the victory.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm inclined to want to say
Speaker 1: even a blind squirrel finds it not occasionally, but at
Speaker 1: least we can say we have a victory under our
Speaker 1: belts at this point, Judge, sorry, you came at the
Speaker 1: expense of your team, but you know, we take what
Speaker 1: we can get around here in Cincinnati. Now, let us
Speaker 1: pivot over to judging freedom, your podcasts, and who you
Speaker 1: and me talking to about.
Speaker 2: Colonel Douglas McGregor at eleven o'clock this morning on the
Speaker 2: latest in Ukraine where the government is just about to collapse,
Speaker 2: hanging on until let's see how long do they have
Speaker 2: to hang on till November sixth? And the latest in Israel?
Speaker 2: Will the Israelis attack Iran because they can't do it
Speaker 2: without American assistance? And Joe Biden doesn't seem to want
Speaker 2: to start World War three until after November sixth?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Really? And the other thing, and I talked with
Speaker 1: this earlier with I do it with there's something called
Speaker 1: the Daniel Davis Deep Divers, the retired lieutenant colonel, and
Speaker 1: I asked him about the Israel's interceptor missiles and I
Speaker 1: observe and I think accurately, so he curse concurred with me.
Speaker 1: They do have a finite supply of those, and they're really, really,
Speaker 1: really expensive. And apparently the rebels, whether they're in Gaza
Speaker 1: or in Lebanon, the terrorist organizations have hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of rockets. So I was kind of wondering, at some
Speaker 1: point won't the Israeli defense systems get exhausted with this
Speaker 1: constant onslaught of rockets. Yes they will, Yes, they will,
Speaker 1: Yes they will.
Speaker 2: And even what we sent the other day, where the
Speaker 2: missles are that we sent are a million dollars each each,
Speaker 2: we only sent forty eight of them. Now these things
Speaker 2: have a dud at the head of them. They're not explosive.
Speaker 2: What they do is they destroy an incoming missile and
Speaker 2: the impact is what causes it to explode. So do
Speaker 2: the math We sent the israelis forty eight, the other
Speaker 2: side has tens of thousands.
Speaker 1: That's my take on the whole thing. It's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know where this is going to go. I mean,
Speaker 2: the question I'm putting to Colonel mcgregors, can Israel survive
Speaker 2: nets in Yahoo? Can it possibly survive all these wars,
Speaker 2: no matter how much American aid we give them. The
Speaker 2: other day, the Israelis attacked you and peacekeepers. That's a
Speaker 2: war crime under international law. So this is going to
Speaker 2: get worse before it gets better. But I don't think
Speaker 2: there'll be anything dramatic again without sounding facetious, until after
Speaker 2: election day.
Speaker 1: They'll keep their powder dry till after the election. That's
Speaker 1: when it's all going to hit the fan. Most of
Speaker 1: my listeners are all that mind. Jud Jenna Polatano. I
Speaker 1: just think pleasure to have you on my program every week.
Speaker 1: I look forward to it already for next Wednesday. God
Speaker 1: bless you, sir. Have a wonderful, wonderful time between now
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian. Right back at you.
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