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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Fred of fsor.

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<v Speaker 2>NOD, Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>Cult of Conspiracy, and my name's Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Jacob.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob wanted to bring up the idea of suicide PAWD.

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<v Speaker 2>This ought to be interesting, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just say, everybody's out there, you know, everybody listening. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>the election's over, okay, And I understand that a little

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<v Speaker 3>less than half of the country is really upset right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and all right, cool, And suicides allegedly or allegedly suicides do,

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<v Speaker 3>in fact tend to spike around big events like that,

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<v Speaker 3>a big election, the most important election America's ever had.

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<v Speaker 3>I could understand if they did take a uptick. And

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<v Speaker 3>I hope they don't. I really really hope they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, especially around the holiday season. That's another

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<v Speaker 3>time when they go up on the uptick. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>But the suicide pod, we've talked about it on the

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<v Speaker 3>show before. I had never really really really looked at it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know there was a country that already did it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I knew there was one girl a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>year girl, excuse me, lady, A woman a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago. That was the first patient and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But like before we talk about her, before we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the suicide pods, and before we talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>controversy around her, because man, there's new information coming out

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<v Speaker 3>that I just stumbled upon, like, for instance, the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that she had strangulation marks around her neck. How did

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<v Speaker 3>she get hand marks around her neck if she was

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<v Speaker 3>in a suicide pod? But don't worry, we will be

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<v Speaker 3>getting there. But first things first. You know, I understand

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<v Speaker 3>that everybody has their own way that they'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>go out right, everybody has, at least hopefully everybody has

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<v Speaker 3>a plan of what would happen to your remains, to

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<v Speaker 3>your body? Would you want to be cremated? Would you

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<v Speaker 3>want to be buried? Do you know what you want

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<v Speaker 3>to do? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I want I want the Viking send off?

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<v Speaker 3>Bro. Yeah, yeah, I think that actually just got made

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<v Speaker 3>legal in this state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Put me in a put me in a wooden boat,

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<v Speaker 2>sail me out, you know, about one hundred yards, and

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<v Speaker 2>strike me with a fiery arrow. Let me just be

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<v Speaker 2>fish food.

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<v Speaker 3>See I to do that same thing, but maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>wooden piro fill it a gasoline, make it a Cajun

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<v Speaker 3>Viking send off. Somebody hit me with that compound bow

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<v Speaker 3>right as it should be done, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>why not? Why not? And if it's like oh because

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<v Speaker 3>uh what if that body doesn't burn all the way

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<v Speaker 3>and it washes somewhere else and it's a whole okay,

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<v Speaker 3>then do it and like my family pond or some

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<v Speaker 3>shit like, it's okay, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My thing is is that if I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>we we kind of are at odds on the whole

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<v Speaker 2>reincarnation thing, but not even that, but just the cycle

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<v Speaker 2>of life itself, right, Like, yeah, I feel like if

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<v Speaker 2>you burn yourself to ash, what are you contributing to

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle of life? You know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 2>you're not feeding any any bugs or any animals or

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<v Speaker 2>any fish.

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<v Speaker 3>Or anything like that. That ash is nutrients for the

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<v Speaker 3>plant life? Oh is it? Oh? Yeah, that's that's what

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<v Speaker 3>how you do? Uh? Like you ever seen control burnings

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<v Speaker 3>of fields? Yeah, that's so that it puts the nitrates

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<v Speaker 3>back into the soil that uh ash from the fire.

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<v Speaker 3>They will till it up up and it revitalizes the

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<v Speaker 3>soil itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro Okay, I'll be soil food. I guess that's okay too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the circle of life that goes into the plants,

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<v Speaker 3>the plant goes into the animals. And that's yeah, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>all the way of perpetuating, as the Bible says, ashes

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<v Speaker 3>to ashes and dust to dust. So whether you go

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<v Speaker 3>into the ground in a box and you'll get decomposed

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<v Speaker 3>back into the dirt, or whether you go into the

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<v Speaker 3>ash form and you get decomposed back into the dirt.

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<v Speaker 3>This carbon based flesh suit is.

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<v Speaker 2>Only that, you know, I mean to be honest, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if a Viking sendoff is too expensive, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what my situation is going to be wheneverm

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<v Speaker 2>whatever age that may be, Dump me in a swamp

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<v Speaker 2>and make me gator food. Dude, I really don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about what happens to my body whenever I die.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so looking at this whole suicide pod thing, which

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<v Speaker 3>further record, I'm with you. I want to do the

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<v Speaker 3>Viking burial. For a long time it was illegal to

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<v Speaker 3>do something like that in this state. Just found out

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<v Speaker 3>it's legal. It's either that or the firework thing. And

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<v Speaker 3>I told you about that before. That company they'll put

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<v Speaker 3>your ashes in fireworks also tight. It is pretty tight.

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<v Speaker 3>And I found out that they're there's another company that

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<v Speaker 3>will make those like shape charges to where like they'll

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<v Speaker 3>go up in the air and make shapes and designs

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<v Speaker 3>and patterns and shit. And I have a list of

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<v Speaker 3>who is getting what shape, and it will be like

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much my final word to them. Some will be kind,

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<v Speaker 3>some will not. Everybody deserves to have that last that

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<v Speaker 3>last little ha.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, one of them's getting shot over DC. It is

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<v Speaker 3>in fact going to be a giant green dick. It

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<v Speaker 3>will be a green weenie. That's a whole thing either

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<v Speaker 3>way either way. So I started looking around because I

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<v Speaker 3>know that I have friends of mine that have taken

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<v Speaker 3>like their family members ashes and they've turned into diamonds,

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<v Speaker 3>they've turned into jewelry. I know my grandmother keeps a

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<v Speaker 3>little a little glass vial of one of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of her ex husband's ashes, And my grandmother, I

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<v Speaker 3>love it or death, but she's wild, you know. But

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<v Speaker 3>I actually have a buddy of mine that I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>with and he's no longer with us. He also it

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<v Speaker 3>was an accidental OD but it was a suicide. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 3>his mom sent me it was a shellcasing with some

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<v Speaker 3>of his ashes in it, which I don't know for

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<v Speaker 3>but like it was dope. I love to death. Yeah, God,

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<v Speaker 3>I was there the day he broke his back. As

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of fact, it was it was actually kind

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<v Speaker 3>of crazy how that all played out. But uh, anyway, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>so I started looking at what are the new trending

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<v Speaker 3>ways of how people want to dispose of their bodies

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<v Speaker 3>and all these things, because looking at the suicide pod,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't like it doesn't like, you know, mince meet

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<v Speaker 3>them or or char them. It just kind of they

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<v Speaker 3>go to sleep. They go sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what is it? An injection?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh well for the sleep pod that I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>the Sarco one anyway, it's actually like they just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fill it with inert air until you like slowly

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<v Speaker 3>go to sleep, kind of like the whole uh park

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<v Speaker 3>your car in the garage at the window cracked and

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<v Speaker 3>just run the exhaust until you pass out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you're you're fading in your sleep. Then it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like suffocating.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's peaceful. It's very peaceful. You pretty much just

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<v Speaker 3>go to sleep and never wake up. But all right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>before we do that, before we do that, this one

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<v Speaker 3>was a different one for me. Bro I need to

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and share the screen and uh, Jonathan. If

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<v Speaker 3>anybody would like to see what we are doing rather

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<v Speaker 3>flow rider gotta speak on it. The ultimate green burial,

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<v Speaker 3>human composting lets you replenish the earth after death. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this is for anybody who's just listening. It's pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>a steel coffin. They got. They got the pall bear

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<v Speaker 3>things on the sides, dude, and some sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>death strow with some sort of a bush of lavender

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<v Speaker 3>on him, and they're getting ready to make that dude.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, mulch, I suppose let's go ahead and read

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>When Dennis Cunningham was diagnosed with terminal cancer, he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>his death to reflect the values that he lived by.

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<v Speaker 2>As a civil rights lawyer, Cunningham defended the Black panthers,

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<v Speaker 2>the AIDS protesters, and later environmental activists from Earth First.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a profound environment in environmentalist, said his son Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>In his spare time, Cunningham built sculptures out of driftwood,

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<v Speaker 2>bottle caps, and rusted car parts in his backyard studio

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<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco. He wanted his body to be part

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<v Speaker 2>of the same cycle of decay and regeneration. He instructed

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<v Speaker 2>his kids to have him composted after he died. It

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<v Speaker 2>was totally in keeping with who he was, to not

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<v Speaker 2>make waste, but to use waste, said his daughter to Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 2>He being wait to Cunningham, being turned into soil and

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<v Speaker 2>spread onto the forest floor to fertilize new trees was

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<v Speaker 2>much more appealing than being burned to ash or entombed

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<v Speaker 2>in a concrete vault underground. A growing number of Americans

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<v Speaker 2>are likewise eager to see more environmentally friendly alternatives to

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<v Speaker 2>conventional burial and cremation. Human composting is the latest option,

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<v Speaker 2>but not everywhere or even in most states. When Cunningham

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<v Speaker 2>died on March fifth, twenty twenty two, at his son's

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<v Speaker 2>house in La it wasn't an option. There's it's literally

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<v Speaker 2>illegal to compost a body in the state of California,

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<v Speaker 2>said his son. We had to transport his body from

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<v Speaker 2>California to Washington to do this. Seven states of legalized

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<v Speaker 2>human composting to date, including Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, Vermont,

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<v Speaker 2>and New York. It took California lawmakers three tries to

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<v Speaker 2>pass a law to do the same, but it won't

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<v Speaker 2>take effect until twenty twenty seven. Opposition has mainly come

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<v Speaker 2>from religious institutions that consider human composting undignified, in which

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<v Speaker 2>and which highlight the scarcity of research proving the practice

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<v Speaker 2>is safe and environmentally beneficial. Lawmakers have championed the legislation, nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that a natural process of decomposition is inherently better

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<v Speaker 2>than burning fossil fuels for cremation, harvesting rainforest mahogany to

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<v Speaker 2>make coffins, or spraying pesticides across cemetery lawns.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so right off the top, I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>a religious issue with that being what someone does with

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I don't know if I understand what is going

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<v Speaker 2>So what are you mulched and then just thrown out

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much mulched and mixed with other dirt and top soil.

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<v Speaker 3>And then bagged up and then spread as you see fit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see how that is. I mean, so the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible says only you can be buried or cremated. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that what the argument is?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? And you know what this is another one where

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<v Speaker 3>it just said religious, it didn't say which religion. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily mean it was Christian. But let's be honest. It

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<v Speaker 3>it depends on which denomination and also which type of

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have your body. It doesn't look like you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your soul is kind of a you know, ectoplasm

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<v Speaker 3>style interdimensional figure. It's not. This isn't what you'll look

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<v Speaker 3>like when standing before God. He believes that right. The

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<v Speaker 3>other and he wants to be cremated by the way

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<v Speaker 3>that just throwing it out. The other says, if I

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<v Speaker 3>get cremated, why would I make it harder for God

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<v Speaker 3>to put me back together when I stand before him?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my God, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wait, what do you mean, Well, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll look like us when we get there. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>where does it say that. He's like, oh, no, it's

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<v Speaker 3>in there. But blah blah blah, both of them reading

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<v Speaker 3>from the same Catholic Bible, having very different thoughts about

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<v Speaker 3>what happens to you after you die.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I I don't know. I kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe we'll have bodies. But again, there's so

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<v Speaker 3>many different things to think about on this. But and

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<v Speaker 3>when I talk to this guy, I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>so you think that when you die, God's gonna take

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<v Speaker 3>that body with you? And like, if you die when

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<v Speaker 3>you're eighty, you get to Heaven at eighty, If you

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<v Speaker 3>die at twelve, you go to you know, your body

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<v Speaker 3>is a twelve year old, like you all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if somebody gets creamated, do you think God

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<v Speaker 3>is going to like atomically piece that person back together

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<v Speaker 3>so he can have a conversation with them? He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>well yeah, of course. I'm like, oh, so okay.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well that's actually an interesting conversation as far

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<v Speaker 2>as what are being our soul or whatever looks like

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<v Speaker 2>whenever we die. I mean, I know it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>off topic as to what we're talking about, but so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Were talking about death in general, so it's in the

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<v Speaker 3>same ballpark now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, when whenever we die, you think we

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<v Speaker 2>go up as like just energy form that is translucent

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't see anything or what.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm gonna be very very honest with

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<v Speaker 3>you and I we could hype hypothetical and dream on

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<v Speaker 3>this topic for the end of time, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's worth doing for sure. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 3>is like a ectoplasm light force. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>it's literally a wind vapor and like you're out there

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<v Speaker 3>just floating through the air vent. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you snap consciousness to a different dimension. There's so many

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<v Speaker 3>ways that you could split that in all of this,

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<v Speaker 3>I think all are equally possible. But this, this skin, suit,

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<v Speaker 3>this beard, this these nails, this skin, all of that

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<v Speaker 3>that's gone that belongs to the earth. You know, what

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<v Speaker 3>made from this earth, and it belongs to the earth.

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<v Speaker 2>What's interesting is is now that I think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well, essentially, like if you're of the of

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<v Speaker 2>the peace of mind that I guess. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>both agree on this because and this is oftentimes the

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<v Speaker 2>argument that is brought up for abortion. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>that as soon as the as soon as the sperm

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<v Speaker 2>attaches to the there's a little jolt of light.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, that's probably what we are when we die,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I think it's something very similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something like that. Yeah, we're just a little piece

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<v Speaker 2>of light.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing. What is the soul? What consists

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<v Speaker 3>of our spirit? I you know, the theories can go

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<v Speaker 3>on and on for forever, but or some people believe

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<v Speaker 3>the energy of some type.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sure, yeah I think so. But then you got

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking people that just like and I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>to hate on people like this. I mean, you're, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to your own belief or whatever, but some people

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<v Speaker 2>just believe it's just dark and there's nothingness and there

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that there isn't it's not that there's nothingness,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that the lights are totally out and there is

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<v Speaker 2>no more after this, which that's got to be a

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<v Speaker 2>shitty way to think about what's happening after this life, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very nihilistic, and some people find their peace in nihilism.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't like the the very thought of it goes

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<v Speaker 3>against my logic, Like I it doesn't make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just makes this whole existence pointless.

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<v Speaker 3>Like even take away religion, take away philosophy, take away whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you think that this is all by accident but

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<v Speaker 3>from a divine creator, all a fucking simulation and we're

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<v Speaker 3>in some Aliens video game, Like what okay, fine take

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<v Speaker 3>it to whatever level you want for all of this

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<v Speaker 3>to happen, and then for that to just be for

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<v Speaker 3>nothing goes against all of the laws of existence, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that makes no sense there, It's not if there's something

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side. It's literally a matter of what's

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side. Yeah, I think that's all that

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<v Speaker 3>can be.

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<v Speaker 2>The probability that we exist after death, to me is

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't even say that it's less than one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent, you know what I'm saying, Like that's how

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<v Speaker 2>my mind works, Like there's there is no way that

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<v Speaker 2>this is all that it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Right exactly, And so with that in mind, what somebody

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<v Speaker 3>wants to do with their body, right, this flesh suit,

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<v Speaker 3>this corpse once we die, this cadaver personally, who the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck cares. I don't care. I think some people take

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<v Speaker 3>it to some weird levels. And don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>turning yourself into mulch, Like you could have just gotten

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<v Speaker 3>cremated and scattered your ashes and it would have done

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<v Speaker 3>the exact same fucking thing, but more direct injection into

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<v Speaker 3>nature's nutrients box rather than but whatever, whatever, tomato tomato. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>on this one, it's going back into the top soil

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<v Speaker 3>through method A or method B. So who the fuck cares, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not what makes it weird to me. There

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<v Speaker 3>is also reports of things going on in certain Asian

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<v Speaker 3>countries not going to drop names where they have an

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<v Speaker 3>insane amount of dead to get rid of, so they

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<v Speaker 3>started getting creative. Now, there were some reports of some

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<v Speaker 3>Soylent green type situations. They were mulching up their dead

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<v Speaker 3>and turning it into some sort of protein and selling

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<v Speaker 3>it back to their population. Uh that was I don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe that to be a true thing. Yes, certain things

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<v Speaker 3>for survival, right, like if a family is not like,

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<v Speaker 3>seriously they're starving and you know, Donner party type shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure I could understand that in the diarist of circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>No, dude, I'm starving to death before before I will

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<v Speaker 2>starve to death happily before I eat a human bro Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying I would do it. I'm saying I

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<v Speaker 3>would understand why somebody in a complete survival situation where

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<v Speaker 3>they're like practically on the verge of being feral, would

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<v Speaker 3>go to that level to see tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it right, right, But then you got to

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<v Speaker 2>ask yourself, like, you know, what part are you gonna eat?

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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of it reminds me of the water

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<v Speaker 2>Boy whenever Coach Klimb, mister Coach klin he asked Mama.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, what part of the snake do you

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm about to eat? She goes, well, technically snakes

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have parts, but if I had to guess,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say his knee, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is actually pretty accurate when you think about it. Either,

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere you cut up into a snake, you're getting the knee.

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<v Speaker 3>But also like, there's no snake big enough to make

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<v Speaker 3>steaks out of like that, Like, holy fucking maybe an

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<v Speaker 3>Anda Khana has backstraps big enough to slice like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was yeah, for the principle of the movie

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<v Speaker 3>that was fucking hilarious. It was. But all right, but

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<v Speaker 3>how the hell do we get on that topic. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, I'm so lor no, but yeah, to that point,

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<v Speaker 3>you would eat the you go off the where the

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<v Speaker 3>most meat is so ass and thighs usually would be

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<v Speaker 3>where people start. There's so many reports of people cannibalizing

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<v Speaker 3>on naval ships from like back in the day, like

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<v Speaker 3>the Moby Dick era, the East India Trading Company, and

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<v Speaker 3>like that was just kind of a part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like expect it almost like if shit go sideways,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're gonna eat each other, and that's just what

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no way, yeah, no, I know, I'm aware that

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably happening, but fuck that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, fuck that sailor's life. I know, the whole

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<v Speaker 3>pirate's life seems super enticing, but a I get seasick,

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<v Speaker 3>and b yo, there is a greater than zero percent

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<v Speaker 3>chance that cannibalism is on the agenda every time you

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<v Speaker 3>leave port. Yo, I'm fucking good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no way. Although they do say it tastes

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<v Speaker 2>like a pig, yeah, because we eat the same trash.

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<v Speaker 3>We Yeah, pigs and humans have the closest flesh. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's actually reasons why Abrahamic law prevents us from eating.

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<v Speaker 2>Them hmm or two related.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's something to it. I don't know to

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<v Speaker 3>what level, but like then you learned that people back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day didn't know how to properly cure meat,

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<v Speaker 3>and pork is one of those things that will fuck

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<v Speaker 3>you up. And it was like, oh, for hygiene reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>it makes sense. But anyway, neither here nor there. So

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<v Speaker 3>back to the point, somebody wants to maltz their body, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>it's whatever. But those countries that were molting those bodies,

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<v Speaker 3>all those dead, come to find out they were mulching them,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were trying to fertilize fields with them, and

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<v Speaker 3>they tried passing it off that it was just soil

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<v Speaker 3>again certain Southeast Asian countries. Now then you look at

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<v Speaker 3>what states that they just named have already been doing this. Washington, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 3>California's pushing the legislation. Why would these states be making

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<v Speaker 3>it okay to turn our dead into mulch specifically, and

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<v Speaker 3>like they're going as far as to try to make

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<v Speaker 3>this a law.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that you got to put it

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<v Speaker 2>in different terms to really think about how crazy it is,

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<v Speaker 2>because I certainly wouldn't want to do that, like maulch

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<v Speaker 2>in your body. That's I know that we're not attached

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<v Speaker 2>to it, but I don't know it. Yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 2>seems really weird. I mean, especially with knowing that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you turn to ash it does basically the same thing.

420
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<v Speaker 2>But think about it like this, like if you put

421
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<v Speaker 2>your dog through a wood chipper, that would be inhumane,

422
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<v Speaker 2>Like if it's dead, right, Like you would look at

423
00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:12.119
<v Speaker 2>that like that is completely a.

424
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<v Speaker 3>Dead dog through a wood chipper.

425
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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's essentially what they're doing.

427
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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't think i've ever it is it is,

428
00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:25.599
<v Speaker 3>You're correct, I don't think I've ever actually thought of that.

429
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<v Speaker 3>That mental image has never crossed my head before you

430
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<v Speaker 3>Why would a Marine Corps fucked up days of dark humor?

431
00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Like wow, throwing a dead dog into a wood chipper?

432
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<v Speaker 3>That's that's like a cards against Humanity card right there,

433
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<v Speaker 3>kind of.

434
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<v Speaker 2>But it's almost like you wouldn't you would look at

435
00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.880
<v Speaker 2>that as inhumane even after the dog as has passed,

436
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:45.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's even been a couple of days whatever.

437
00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:47.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I would see it as twisted.

438
00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:51.200
<v Speaker 2>You would never do exactly twisted. And so why are

439
00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:54.240
<v Speaker 2>humans different now if we're all just fucking meat suits?

440
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<v Speaker 3>So apparently they're trying to do it, dude, And then

441
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<v Speaker 3>with that a new kind of funeral business.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting. Cunningham ended up at Recomposts, a human composting

443
00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:12.279
<v Speaker 2>facility in Seattle. Founder and CEO Katrina Spade said about

444
00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:15.039
<v Speaker 2>fifteen percent of their clients are shipped from California and

445
00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:18.480
<v Speaker 2>another fourteen percent from other states. Damn, most of their

446
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.559
<v Speaker 2>business coming from California. Yeah, that sounds about right.

447
00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Nobody wants to fucking live there, dude.

448
00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:26.960
<v Speaker 2>We pick them up at sea tax, she said, referring

449
00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:32.200
<v Speaker 2>to Seattle Tacoma International Airport. Walking into the lobby of

450
00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:37.240
<v Speaker 2>recompost feels like walking into a spa. Meditation music whispers

451
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:42.160
<v Speaker 2>from hidden speakers, Living art tapestries decorate the walls. Earthy

452
00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.680
<v Speaker 2>green and yellow shades cover the windows. When the light

453
00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.559
<v Speaker 2>comes through, we hope it reminds you of the forced light,

454
00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Spade said, while walking through the gathering Space, a ceremonial

455
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<v Speaker 2>room where families can hold services in rituals for their

456
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<v Speaker 2>loved ones.

457
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<v Speaker 3>So you could already tell that it's getting a certain vibe, right,

458
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.839
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not doing that. I didn't, but you're already

459
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:04.759
<v Speaker 3>picturing it. Right.

460
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.799
<v Speaker 2>This sounds like the most California shit I've ever heard

461
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>in my life.

462
00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Like, bro, okay, this is These are the people making

463
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.319
<v Speaker 3>the woo woo community look bad. You know what I'm saying.

464
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, dude, It's like that's why you know you

465
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<v Speaker 2>do this.

466
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<v Speaker 3>Dude.

467
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<v Speaker 2>You can't look at all the spiritual and all the

468
00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:23.720
<v Speaker 2>woo woo people and group us together. I don't want

469
00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.640
<v Speaker 2>to be associated with these kind of people, Like, that's

470
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.079
<v Speaker 2>not me. The same thing with the Satanists. Don't group

471
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:30.440
<v Speaker 2>me in with that. That's not me.

472
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<v Speaker 3>For the longest time, I grouped you in with this

473
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:36.480
<v Speaker 3>type of woo woo. I'm so sorry. There was a

474
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.960
<v Speaker 3>good while there. It's been years. It's been years since

475
00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:40.920
<v Speaker 3>I me and you had a good understanding of where

476
00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:42.960
<v Speaker 3>we're actually at and like we're good. You and me

477
00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:45.799
<v Speaker 3>are straight up on some things. But like for a

478
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:50.079
<v Speaker 3>good while there, I was like, bro, how hippie are you? Like,

479
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:52.279
<v Speaker 3>especially in the early days the first year of this

480
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:55.519
<v Speaker 3>pod for sure, and like, dude, I'm telling you, I've

481
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.559
<v Speaker 3>seen the light the wo woo community, quote unquote, the

482
00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.799
<v Speaker 3>spiritual commun unity, the metaphysical community. Good god, is there

483
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:05.240
<v Speaker 3>such a spectrum?

484
00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

485
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 3>It is not a monolithic community by any fucking means.

486
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I just met a billionaire spiritualist, and I've also met

487
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:20.200
<v Speaker 3>a spiritualist on that exact same vibe, exact same frequency

488
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 3>and all that, all the shit that billionaire is saying

489
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the same shit as somebody who lives in a fucking

490
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.400
<v Speaker 3>a single wide right now. Like yo, it is. There

491
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 3>is so many types of people on that spectrum. It's insane.

492
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, dude. I feel like it's becoming more common personally,

493
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:41.039
<v Speaker 2>because at least I don't know if it's becoming more

494
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<v Speaker 2>common or if it's just becoming more common to be

495
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>comfortable to talk about that kind of stuff. Could be both.

496
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<v Speaker 3>I suppose I think we're kind of in a second

497
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.279
<v Speaker 3>not a second Enlightenment, but kind of rights as an

498
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:59.480
<v Speaker 3>American society. I think we are on the precipice of

499
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:03.559
<v Speaker 3>a golden age and or our downfall, you know what

500
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

501
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's more likely to the Golden age personally,

502
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I hope.

503
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 3>So. I think that we have a lot, a lot

504
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:13.720
<v Speaker 3>of momentum in that direction right now, but it's still

505
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 3>too early to call it. You know, it depends on

506
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 3>how we move here in the next decade. But I

507
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.079
<v Speaker 3>think we're on the verge of some amazing things as

508
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:23.519
<v Speaker 3>a nation.

509
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:28.160
<v Speaker 2>It's just yeah, I'm optimistic as long as it's not

510
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 2>fucked with.

511
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, honestly. And that's the point though. I think that

512
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 3>with that comes a new way of thinking about all

513
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 3>of these things, right, like quantum mechanics and quantum healing anything.

514
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 3>Quantum is not something that only the academics are talking about.

515
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Regular average jos have that in their cultural zeitgeist over

516
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the last few years, specifically because of certain things, because

517
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 3>of podcasts, because of certain people questioning scientific narratives, and like,

518
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.279
<v Speaker 3>this is a thing that is spanning the gap, you

519
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:03.759
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. So it's not like a new

520
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 3>religious movement, but it's almost like a subculture that's growing

521
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 3>if you will.

522
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well. And also, if it wasn't for metaphysics,

523
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.400
<v Speaker 2>correct me if I'm wrong, we probably wouldn't know that

524
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 2>there are at least what is it, eleven or thirteen dimensions? Right,

525
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Like that was discovered because of metaphysics.

526
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and I'm not discrediting metaphysics by any means.

527
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.359
<v Speaker 3>It's fascinating how they're using it help. We just learned

528
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:32.000
<v Speaker 3>how they're using it on ethernet cables to watch and

529
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 3>monitor for security reasons. Like, dude, that was fucking wild.

530
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.640
<v Speaker 2>That is super cool, all right.

531
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Then on the other side of that, we got these

532
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 3>people turning their bodies to malt stone.

533
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a little fucking weird. That seems a bit masochistic.

534
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Almost almost almost.

535
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 3>But let's see here the science of human composting, because

536
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually kind of curious on that one as well.

537
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.759
<v Speaker 3>I thought the human pH because of our blood and

538
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 3>are like stomach acids and shit, would not make good mulch.

539
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 3>I I kind of didn't know. I thought that ash

540
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 3>was the best way to mulch. But apparently there's some people.

541
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

542
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>The composting itself happens in a cavernous warehouse that Spade

543
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 2>calls the greenhouse. She describes the smell as alternating between

544
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>that of a grassy meadow after a rain and a barnyard.

545
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Inside the warehouse, thirty four white hexagonal cylinders, or individual vessels,

546
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 2>are stacked up on top of each other, forming the

547
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>shape of a beehive. When a new body comes in,

548
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the staff lays it, lays it inside one of the

549
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 2>vessels on a bed of wood chips, on a bed

550
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 2>of wood chips, alfalfa and straw. Spades said, then they

551
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 2>cover it with more of the same. If you were alive,

552
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>it would probably be a little itchy, Spade said.

553
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.319
<v Speaker 3>That's fucking weird. Why would you say that?

554
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, why, I don't get that now.

555
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Like a coffin salesman being like, if you were alive, well,

556
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>you'd want to lay in this, like bro, bro.

557
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>What Yeah? Yeah, some dracula shit there right. Microbes and

558
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>bacteria go to work on the body, a natural process

559
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 2>that generates heat, raising the temperature inside the vessel to

560
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty degrees fahrenheit. Under Washington State regulations,

561
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>this natural heat has to be sustained for three straight

562
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 2>days to kill off any pathogens that might otherwise contaminate

563
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the soil.

564
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, actually, look at that pod. That's kind of weird looking.

565
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks a little Nasa ish to me. Uh huh,

566
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>seven or eight years I've been doing this, and still

567
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 2>when I see that temperature spike, I think holy mackerel,

568
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Spade said, channeling her inner eighth grade science fair nerd.

569
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 2>It just feels like some sort of miracle, even though

570
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:46.839
<v Speaker 2>it is nature.

571
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's so, they're basically just letting the body decomposts

572
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 3>within itself.

573
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.319
<v Speaker 2>I guess so. It says. The body stays in the

574
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>vessel for about thirty to forty days every week or so.

575
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.720
<v Speaker 2>The staff wrote, rotate, it rotates it to let air through,

576
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and the body transforms and consolidates into a cubic yard

577
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 2>of dark brown dirt enough to fill the bed of

578
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 2>a pickup truck. Holy shit, that much.

579
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:14.799
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

580
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 2>The staff removes any titanium hips or knees left over

581
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 2>in the process, then grinds the bones down to sand

582
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 2>and mixes them back in with the soil. The entire

583
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>process takes about two months and costs about seven grand,

584
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>more than the cost of cremation, but less than a

585
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>full service conventional burial with cemetery plot, according to data

586
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 2>collected by funeral Osity, a consumer website.

587
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I mean, that's not the worst alternative I've ever heard,

588
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:46.240
<v Speaker 3>but like, still, that's weird, dude.

589
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's still a weird practice.

590
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 3>It's not as bad as what we thought. Like I

591
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 3>thought wood chipper like legit, I thought that's what they

592
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 3>were doing here. But I mean that actually doesn't sound

593
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 3>too horrible.

594
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 2>They're just letting its decompose.

595
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, who cares, right, it is your body

596
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 3>and you're gone, so like whatever. But again, I think

597
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.119
<v Speaker 3>it's very interesting which states they're trying to make that

598
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 3>legal in. Whenever they're trying to follow the precedence of

599
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:16.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, certain Southeastern Asian countries. It's just things to monitor.

600
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 2>You know. I would actually like to say, that's really

601
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 2>not as bad as I thought it was. Now, like

602
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>like looking back to it, it's like, okay, well, I

603
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 2>mean you're just letting it compost.

604
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, But what I'm saying is the composting of the

605
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 3>body whatever. That's what I'm saying. If it's weird to you, fine,

606
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 3>it's not something I would want to do. I like

607
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 3>the ash idea better just me, But fine, it's do

608
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>you right, But Washington, Oregon, California, and now New York.

609
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Now again, it's just interesting that like this isn't a

610
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 3>thing in certain states, but it is in specific states,

611
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.240
<v Speaker 3>specific blue states. If you just want to look at

612
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 3>the last election results, I just find it interesting.

613
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>You know what that is? That is pretty cool? Like

614
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:05.359
<v Speaker 2>that picture of that guy standing next to that uh

615
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 2>to that plant stand, It's like, you know, now that's

616
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>pulling out my hard strings. Imagine like that's your grandma

617
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, up pops a flower Like that's pretty

618
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>sentimental if you think about it.

619
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how I would feel about that, honestly.

620
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, the flower popping out of Grandma,

621
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 3>that'd be dope. But like to be planting ship up

622
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 3>in up in Ma Ma, like I.

623
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, you're planting up in Ma Ma, Like Mama

624
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 2>is like what what the fucking flowers are living off of?

625
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 3>That's all I'm saying. I'm planting flowers inside of Ma Ma,

626
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 3>like it up in her, like in her in her body.

627
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Now.

628
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Like that being said, I don't want to be the

629
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>person that's, you know, burying the seeds in that compost.

630
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Though that sounds weird, that sounds fucking weird.

631
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Then that's my point. That's my point. It's like, Yo,

632
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 3>if you're donating this soil to like some erosions somewhere

633
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.839
<v Speaker 3>in the state and like that's where it's good, then dope.

634
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, like, but some people would totally want to

635
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 3>make a garden out of it. But again, like I'm

636
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.759
<v Speaker 3>not here to judge if that's like a thing that

637
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 3>like yo, you and your grandma had like a huge

638
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 3>gardening relationship, and like she would want this and like,

639
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, plant this specific type of flower in this

640
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 3>because that was her favorite. Like if that's a thing, then,

641
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 3>like I'm not here to judge. I'm just saying it's

642
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 3>not a me thing. But why is it that New

643
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 3>York again very blue states, are making it okay to

644
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 3>mulch people. I find that to just be interesting a

645
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 3>red flag, if you will, And that is what we

646
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 3>do here at the Cult of Conspiracies, report the red flags.

647
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>You know what, It just got me thinking because I'm

648
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>somebody I keep a lot of plants in my house.

649
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it helps clean the air and like

650
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>those kind of plants, you know, and I got i

651
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know, probably seven or eight plants inside of my

652
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 2>house and there are like all on winds, windowsills and shit,

653
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and so it's cool. But you know they that if

654
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 2>you want your plants to grow healthy, that you got

655
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to talk to them nice. You know. Imagine you're sitting

656
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 2>there talking to your fucking grandma.

657
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.039
<v Speaker 3>Come on, grandma, you can do it.

658
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Make this flower bloom. Baby.

659
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying they did the studies. Death metal makes

660
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 3>plants grow harder and stronger and bigger and faster. And

661
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 3>so I also know that my grandmother loves rock and roll,

662
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 3>So like, if that was to happen, I feel like

663
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 3>that'd be a double down on it. So that would

664
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 3>be dope.

665
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.920
<v Speaker 2>That is pretty cool. So anyway, the New York Governor

666
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Kathy Hochel hol Hochel on Saturday signed into law a

667
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 2>bill legalizing the composting of human remains, one of a

668
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>number of new so called green burial methods that are

669
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:49.039
<v Speaker 2>gaining popularity as people look for ecologically conscious alternatives to

670
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 2>cremation or traditional burial in a coffin. New York is

671
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>now the sixth state to legalize human composting, also known

672
00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>as terramation or natural organic reduction after death. Natural organic reduction, Yeah,

673
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>that sounds about right. Washington became the first state to

674
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>legalize the practice in twenty nineteen. To be clear, this

675
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 2>does not mean people will be able to toss their

676
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 2>deceased loved ones and into a backyard compost tumbler along

677
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>with their discarded kitchen scraps and lawn trimmings. Human composting

678
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>comprises placing someone's body into a reusable vessel or pod

679
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.559
<v Speaker 2>along with a biodegradable plant material like wood, chips, straw,

680
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and alfalfa. While the vessel was stored at a special facility,

681
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 2>microbes and beneficial bacteria break down the body over a month,

682
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>eventually producing a cubic yard of compost or twenty seven

683
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>cubic feet. The compost can be then or can then

684
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 2>be incorporated into outdoor land like a natural preserved cemetery,

685
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 2>buried at a traditional cemetery, or yes used to amend, fertilize,

686
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>or mulch a memorial garden.

687
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 3>See here's the deal, bro they say, and by they

688
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean the all encompassing day, the they that run

689
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 3>the polls, and the they that are in charge of shit.

690
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 3>They are saying that we are running out of room

691
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.760
<v Speaker 3>to bury people, that we pretty much have too many

692
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 3>cemeteries in this country, and that we need to start

693
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 3>finding new ways to get rid of dead people, and

694
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 3>we need to find ways of doing it really quickly,

695
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 3>really cheaply, and we need to do it by a

696
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:30.039
<v Speaker 3>lot of them. They legalize this in twenty nineteen, right

697
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 3>before COVID, and then again we see yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

698
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 3>So just as I was saying, like all of this,

699
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.599
<v Speaker 3>this has nothing necessarily to do with the suicide pods,

700
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.400
<v Speaker 3>but as we were looking about things about death, about

701
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 3>all of this, I just wanted to take a little

702
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 3>second and talk about these other ways that our death

703
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 3>is trying to be used for the quote unquote good.

704
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Although again I think there's a lot more to that

705
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 3>story than what they were telling us.

706
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Although I'll say this, this wouldn't be my choice, but

707
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I would take this option over like a traditional burial,

708
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 2>because if you do, if you look into that, dude,

709
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 2>it is so expensive to buy the coffin and then

710
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the plot and you know, and God forbid, you want

711
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 2>to be put up in like a one of the drawers,

712
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 2>like the walls, oh, the mausoleum. Yeah yeah, Like that's

713
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>even more expensive, I think, But I feel like this

714
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>would be I would definitely take this over being buried

715
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 2>in a coffin, for sure.

716
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I wish we had a New Orleans plot that's like

717
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 3>the reusable one that like everybody's been buried in because

718
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:37.880
<v Speaker 3>once they turn the dust, they just get swept out

719
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 3>to the back and it's all good. So like that

720
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 3>same tomb will get used for like ten generations and shit,

721
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, I love that. I also add that.

722
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh, that would be sick. But you know,

723
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 2>also keep in mind the little loophole as to never

724
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.079
<v Speaker 2>having your house taken away from you is to bury

725
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>a family member in your backyard and the state nobody

726
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 2>can ever legally take your house away from you, even

727
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 2>if like you are so far behind on bills, it

728
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter, like they it's legally your land. Now, if

729
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 2>you bury a family member in your backyard, did you

730
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 2>know that that's a federal law.

731
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I live in an hoa. If I pulled some shit

732
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.960
<v Speaker 3>like that, and I've already tried to wage war against

733
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 3>these fuckers and they they they got my nuts and

734
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 3>a vice. Once upon a time, if I tried to

735
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 3>pull some slick shit like that, I've already like thought

736
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 3>about putting a bat box in my backyard making it

737
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 3>a federally protected land and that they could go fuck

738
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 3>off with it, because I love bats and people hate them,

739
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 3>but like whatever, But then I was like, no, no,

740
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 3>because they're gonna be assholes because I live in Louisiana

741
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 3>and somebody's gonna like smoke bomb my bat box whenever

742
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm like not home or something because people are dicks.

743
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 3>So you can do the same to bury a family

744
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.559
<v Speaker 3>member in my yard, bro, that would be a hysterical

745
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 3>and be that would be an expensive court case.

746
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the oldest laws written. As a matter

747
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 2>of fact, like that was one of like the original

748
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>shits that were that were passed, bro. And so it's

749
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 2>been it's been around for like several or a couple

750
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.840
<v Speaker 2>hundred years. And so I heard about that, and I

751
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 2>was like, dude, I mean, fuck the Viking send off.

752
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Just chop me up and throw me in the backyard.

753
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:21.559
<v Speaker 2>That's all I need.

754
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 4>Yo.

755
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Just shot me into like five pieces, send me to

756
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 3>five different people's backyard, just claim that I'm buried at

757
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 3>all of them. Do a whole sat in my own care.

758
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's interesting. I wonder if you can divide up

759
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>your body parts. You know, my mom gets my left leg,

760
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.239
<v Speaker 2>my dad might gets maybe he gets my head. I

761
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:37.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

762
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 3>William Wallace it, yeah, yeah.

763
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's an interesting theory.

764
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:42.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

765
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:44.280
<v Speaker 2>We have to look into it. I don't know this specifically.

766
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.920
<v Speaker 3>The only time I can think of where I've seen

767
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 3>body parts get their own separate cemetery is actually during

768
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 3>the Civil War. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't a Stonewall Jackson.

769
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.840
<v Speaker 3>His arm was shot off and it's buried at a

770
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 3>certain battlefield where it was shot off, and then his

771
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.800
<v Speaker 3>body is buried where he died, and they actually have

772
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 3>a whole tombstonwhere says here is Stonewall Jackson's arm. If

773
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 3>it's not him, I forget was general.

774
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, wow, that's pretty thing.

775
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's definitely a thing. But anyway, anyway, like I said,

776
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.639
<v Speaker 3>none of this is anything to do with the suicide pods.

777
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 3>But I just find it interesting that these states are

778
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 3>passing these types of laws and things, you know, around

779
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.519
<v Speaker 3>certain strategic times and that kind of while we're on

780
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 3>the topic of death and all of these things, I

781
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 3>just wanted to kind of spend a little second to

782
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 3>talk about that now the topic in question here that

783
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 3>really and truly, this whole thing in theory sounds like

784
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:45.719
<v Speaker 3>a good concept until it was actually attempted to be

785
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 3>used and went horribly wrong. And now there's an investigation

786
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 3>being launched against it. So you know, let's hear about this, Jonathan.

787
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:56.360
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever heard of the sarco pod?

788
00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't.

789
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.159
<v Speaker 3>So this is a picture of it right now here.

790
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 3>And again, anybody that wants to see this instead of

791
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 3>hear about it, please come check usund Patreon and or rockfin.

792
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 3>The sarcopod, also known as the pegasauce and has been

793
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:14.960
<v Speaker 3>referred to as a suicide pod, is a euthanasia device

794
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:19.480
<v Speaker 3>or machine consisting of a three D printed detachable capsule

795
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 3>mounted on a stand that contains a canister of liquid

796
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:27.719
<v Speaker 3>nitrogen to die by suicide through inert gas exphyxiation. SARCO

797
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:32.280
<v Speaker 3>is short for sarcophagus. By the ways, this is the sarcopod.

798
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 3>This is our sarcophagus pod. It is used in conjunction

799
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 3>with an inert gas nitrogen, which decreases oxygen levels rapidly,

800
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>which prevents panic, sense of suffocation and struggling before unconsciousness

801
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 3>known as hyper hypercapnic alarm response. Basically, when you start suffocating,

802
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 3>you start freaking out and trying to gas for air.

803
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have that, caused by this presence of high

804
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 3>carbon dioxide concentrations in the blood. The sarco was invented

805
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 3>by euthanasia campaigner Philip Neietsty don't Know in twenty seventeen.

806
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Nichgi Nizki there you Go said in twenty twenty one

807
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 3>that he sought and received legal advice about the device's

808
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:21.119
<v Speaker 3>legality in Switzerland. Okay, so this pod essentially you get

809
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 3>in it and you push a button and you just

810
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of lay back and relax, and this liquid nitrogen,

811
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 3>which is then converted into just nitrogen gas, slowly starts

812
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 3>to replace the oxygen. And this doesn't give you any

813
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 3>type of allegedly anyway, it doesn't give you any type

814
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 3>of like negative response. You just kind of slowly drift

815
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 3>off to sleep allegedly. So actually, if you want to

816
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 3>see you go ahead and read the mechanics on it.

817
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, this is where it gets into the

818
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>conversation of is it still considered suicide? If you're knocking

819
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.039
<v Speaker 2>on death's door whenever you get in there, you know, like,

820
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>are you stage four cancer? You got a week to

821
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 2>live and you want to go out on your terms?

822
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Is that still considered suicide? I mean, technically I think.

823
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 3>But it's I mean, by definition, taking your own life

824
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.440
<v Speaker 3>is suicide. Now, if we're going to argue about the

825
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 3>ethics of that, well then that's you know, one of

826
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 3>those again that can be argued backwards and forwards in

827
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 3>straw Man and steelmanned until the cows come home.

828
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, right, ethically you could argue it. But I

829
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 2>guess spiritually or religiously, I don't know if there is

830
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:34.840
<v Speaker 2>an argument.

831
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 3>It depends on your religion. It depends on your religion.

832
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 3>Certain religions see it as a very good thing. In Japan,

833
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 3>sopuku was an honorable way to die if you had

834
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 3>been dishonored or disgraced in some way. Right, as a

835
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:52.119
<v Speaker 3>matter of fact, suicide in the suicide forest because of

836
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 3>it being such a cultural thing in Japan. In Rome,

837
00:43:56.559 --> 00:43:58.880
<v Speaker 3>it was considered a very honorable way to die. That

838
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.719
<v Speaker 3>you would have a big party and get drunken all that,

839
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 3>then go lay in the bats up and slit your

840
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 3>wrists and like that was considered the correct way to die.

841
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:11.559
<v Speaker 2>What there's a yeah, I never heard about that one.

842
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, man, that was a big thing for Caesars. Well,

843
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean unless they were assassinated. Shit, yeah, that's that's

844
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:23.960
<v Speaker 3>always been a big thing. So not in every culture obviously,

845
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 3>but there are cases of it from around the world.

846
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.440
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, especially when you look at patients right who

847
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.239
<v Speaker 3>are suffering from very painful cancers that they have. They

848
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 3>were supposed to die like five years ago, and somehow

849
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 3>they're still alive, but it's getting progressively worse, and it's

850
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 3>like they have made their arrangements. They're at peace, they

851
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 3>want they are waiting to die and it's painful, but

852
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.800
<v Speaker 3>they can't afford the medications. Ba ba ba bap. Look,

853
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:54.880
<v Speaker 3>there's there's tons of cases where like you could argue

854
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 3>for the pros and to the cons of someone actually

855
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.280
<v Speaker 3>wanting to use this device. And as as a matter

856
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.719
<v Speaker 3>of fact, we're going to here in a little bit.

857
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well the first patient, Okay, So the mechanics

858
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 2>of it, it says to access or access to the

859
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.639
<v Speaker 2>SARCO will be controlled by an online test to gauge

860
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:16.440
<v Speaker 2>mental fitness. If applicants pass, they receive an access code

861
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to a SARCO device, which is valid for twenty four hours.

862
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Users of the SARCO can choose either a dark or

863
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:26.880
<v Speaker 2>transparent view from the capsule. The transparent view would be

864
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.679
<v Speaker 2>chosen if they wish to transport the machine to a

865
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.840
<v Speaker 2>particular location to see a certain vista from the machine.

866
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 2>The inventor feels that, in quotes, where you die is

867
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 2>certainly an important factor. In quotes, the capsule of Sarco

868
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 2>provides for a rapid decrease in oxygen level while maintaining

869
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.639
<v Speaker 2>a low level of carbon dioxide. On activation, four liters

870
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>or one point one gallons of liquid nitrogen causes the

871
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 2>oxygen levels to drop silently to less than five percent

872
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>in less than one minute. According to Nizke, the occupant

873
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.320
<v Speaker 2>presses the button and the capsule is filled with nitrogen,

874
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 2>they will feel a bit dizzy, but will then rapidly

875
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>lose consciousness and die. I'm good, dude, I'm good. On

876
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that way, dude, no way.

877
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this is a whole thing, right. So that's

878
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 3>the overall basics of the Sarco pod. Now, let's see

879
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 3>this article here from National Catholic Register. Trust me, I

880
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 3>was shocked whenever I saw what the link was clicked

881
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 3>on it and got hit with that as the title.

882
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:38.719
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay. The suicide pod claims its first victim,

883
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 3>delighting its inventor. The American woman who has yet to

884
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:46.840
<v Speaker 3>be identified, was sixty four years old. Go ahead and

885
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 3>read this.

886
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Sir, dude. Imagine you press the button and like five

887
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>seconds in you're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, no, what am

888
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I doing?

889
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:54.679
<v Speaker 3>What am I doing?

890
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 2>But then you're like, you're trapped in there, You're done.

891
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you push the button, you push the button,

892
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 3>you know.

893
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess so I feel like there would be a

894
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 2>little bit of buyer's remorse for that last fifty five

895
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 2>seconds of your life. You're going to sleep, I suppose so. Anyway,

896
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.800
<v Speaker 2>it says once inside the sealed chamber of the futuristic

897
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Sarco suicide pod, the woman was given an eerie command,

898
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 2>if you want to die, press this button. So she did,

899
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and the chamber flooded with nitrogen gas. Her oxygen levels plummeted,

900
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.159
<v Speaker 2>causing her to pass out. She was dead within minutes.

901
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.159
<v Speaker 2>The woman, who has yet to be identified, was sixty four,

902
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.760
<v Speaker 2>who has yet to be identified. What you go in

903
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>there like, you don't even have to How is this

904
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.320
<v Speaker 2>not being okay?

905
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 3>This is I thought that there was some twenty twenty

906
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 3>four dog.

907
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought that there was some kind of vetting process.

908
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 2>What if somebody is just having a really fucking bad day,

909
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:52.800
<v Speaker 2>You're going to go in there anonymously.

910
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 3>This is an American woman that traveled to Switzerland for this.

911
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Bro no no read about this and I'm telling you

912
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 3>it's more of a process than just walking in and deciding.

913
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, there's a lot more to

914
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 3>this story than what they originally thought.

915
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Bro Okay. Well, the woman who has yet to be

916
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.880
<v Speaker 2>identified with sixty four years old and American, suffering from

917
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.480
<v Speaker 2>a severely compromised immune system. She'd flown to Switzerland to

918
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>obtain an assisted suicide using the Hideously Sleek invention Hideously Sleek,

919
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 2>which had been placed beneath the canopy of trees in

920
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the Swiss Woodlands. Her death earlier last week marks the

921
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:32.480
<v Speaker 2>first time someone is known to have used the pod

922
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:36.519
<v Speaker 2>for its intended purposes. Reports indicate that she was suffering

923
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>from a various very serious illness for at least two years.

924
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Switzerland is one of the few countries in the world

925
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.679
<v Speaker 2>where foreigners can travel for the purpose of obtaining an

926
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 2>assisted suicide. I don't know, I don't like scroll back

927
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 2>up there for a second. She's the first one that

928
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 2>was you, that used it for its design purpose.

929
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's the first one for.

930
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Its design purpose. Like Why do they have to word

931
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>it that way? Are they saying that it was used otherwise?

932
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 3>No, Keep in mind it's the National Catholic Register, So

933
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 3>like it's gonna be the hideously sleek design, like they're

934
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.679
<v Speaker 3>they're going to be throwing it through a certain lens.

935
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 3>And I mean we should know that going into it.

936
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.800
<v Speaker 3>That's why I even mentioned it. So with that, they're

937
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 3>they're making it seem like it's going to be as

938
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:27.639
<v Speaker 3>negative as possible.

939
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>God Jim okay, right, well, it says. Reacting to the

940
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 2>news of the sarcos inaugural usage, Bishop Felix uh Gimur

941
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>of Baslu, president of the Swiss Bishop's Conference, told Swiss

942
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:46.320
<v Speaker 2>media the pod was dangerous because it makes suicide too

943
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 2>easy to access. The Catholic Church teaches that suicide, whether

944
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:53.639
<v Speaker 2>assisted by a physician to reduce suffering or as an

945
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 2>expression of individual autonomy, is a grave moral evil. Intentional euthanasia,

946
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.079
<v Speaker 2>whatever its forms or motives, is murder, reads the Catechism

947
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 2>of the Catholic Church. It is gravely contrary to the

948
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.039
<v Speaker 2>dignity of the human person and to the respect due

949
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 2>to the Living God his creator. Suicide is seriously contrary

950
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 2>to justice, hope and charity. It is forbidden by the

951
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Fifth Commandment. Indeed, indeed, local authorities also had a negative reaction.

952
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Immediately following the announcement of sarco's inaugural usage made to

953
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 2>the Swiss press by the pods inventor Philip Niske, Swiss

954
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:37.400
<v Speaker 2>police arrived at the scene and seized the Sarco. Several

955
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.840
<v Speaker 2>arrests were made of individuals associated with the Last Resort,

956
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 2>a non profit that advocates advocates for assisted suicide in Switzerland,

957
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:49.800
<v Speaker 2>which had supervised the woman's death. Though assisted suicide has

958
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 2>been legal in Switzerland since nineteen forty two, Swiss law Wow.

959
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Whoa whoa Assisted suicide has been legal in Switzerland since

960
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 3>nineteen Holy shit.

961
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Switzerland's always kind of been one of those live and

962
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.079
<v Speaker 2>let live kind of kind of places.

963
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I think they're like famously neutral, right, they were the

964
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 3>only hitler didn't fuck with them, you know, Napoleon didn't

965
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 3>fuck with them. Like that's like I understood thing. No

966
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:19.840
<v Speaker 3>one fucks with Switzerland. They just they're chilling.

967
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they've been having the assisted suicide in some

968
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 2>former fashion since forty two. But it says Swiss law

969
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 2>permits aid assisted suicide provided that the individual ends their

970
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>life without any outside help and that those involved in

971
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the process have no personal gain in mind, the Sarco

972
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 2>pod runs a foul of Swiss law. According to the

973
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Interior Minister Elizabeth baum Schneider, the Sarco suicide capsule is

974
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 2>not legal in two respects, she recently said to the

975
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 2>National Council. On one hand, is it does not fulfill

976
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 2>the demands of the product safety law and as such

977
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 2>must not be brought into circulation. On the other hand,

978
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the core responding use of nitrogen is not compatible with

979
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the article on purpose into in the chemical's law. Nischke,

980
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 2>who claims to have monitored the woman's suicide from across

981
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the German border through a heart rate and oxygen monitor

982
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:17.639
<v Speaker 2>as well as from a camera inside the device, ooh,

983
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't like that part, right, Yeah, that's you know,

984
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be some sick fucks that are jerking off

985
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:25.840
<v Speaker 2>to that, to that film.

986
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Like you know, the dark web has got that.

987
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Floating, right, no doubt, no doubt.

988
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 3>Snuff films like this isn't this is a true snuff film.

989
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, if there ever was one, for sure, right.

990
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Nizki said that when she entered the SARCO, she almost

991
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 2>immediately pressed the button. Damn. She didn't hesitate at all.

992
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.559
<v Speaker 2>She was ready. She didn't say anything. She really wanted

993
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 2>to die. My estimate is that she lost consciousness within

994
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:56.239
<v Speaker 2>two minutes and that she died after five minutes. We

995
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 2>saw jerky, small twitches of the muscles in her arms,

996
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 2>but she was probably already unconscious by then. It looked

997
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:10.239
<v Speaker 2>exactly how we expected it to look. No no, no, no, no,

998
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>tell the guy.

999
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 3>Look at the guy. Uh, can he looks like a psycho? Dude?

1000
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Those glasses do him no favors.

1001
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I wonder after him seeing that, is that going to

1002
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 2>make him want to, you know, jump in there on

1003
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 2>himself one day.

1004
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, it's you know, it's bad, it's really fun.

1005
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 3>There's no nice way to slice this, honestly.

1006
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 2>When reached for comment, a spokesperson for the Last Resort

1007
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.440
<v Speaker 2>told The Register that Nichke was withholding comment until Swiss

1008
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Swiss authorities determined whether the group's four the group's four

1009
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.360
<v Speaker 2>detained members would be charged. In the moments before entering

1010
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 2>the pod, the woman reportedly issued an oral statement to

1011
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Fiona Stewart, a lawyer, a lawyer and co director of

1012
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:02.360
<v Speaker 2>the Last Resort, in which she confirmed her wish to

1013
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.920
<v Speaker 2>die and that she she'd had this wish since being

1014
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:10.320
<v Speaker 2>diagnosed with her undisclosed condition, which caused her severe pain.

1015
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 3>An undisclosed condition could be any number of things.

1016
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:21.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's one piece of me that says, this

1017
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 2>is really fucked up and it shouldn't even be a thing.

1018
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 2>But then there's another piece of me that's like, I

1019
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:29.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like people who are going to kill themselves are

1020
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 2>going to kill themselves.

1021
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you, I'm with you, right, They're gonna find

1022
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.039
<v Speaker 3>a way. That's why whenever I was in the Marines,

1023
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 3>we had somebody that would do that, we would have

1024
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:42.159
<v Speaker 3>to put them on suicide watch, meaning that like at

1025
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 3>all times twenty four to seven, doesn't matter, in the shower,

1026
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 3>taking a shit, whatever, somebody is literally damn near attached

1027
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 3>to them at the hip and making sure that they

1028
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.320
<v Speaker 3>won't try to do some stupid shit. That's a whole thing.

1029
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 3>I get it, I get it, But again there's a

1030
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.320
<v Speaker 3>little you know what we can do. You want to

1031
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 3>keep reading this one or do you want to move

1032
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.480
<v Speaker 3>on to the next one, Because gonna be honest with you,

1033
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 3>bro at first they arrested these people, and it was

1034
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 3>because they literally just fired up this suicide machine and

1035
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.480
<v Speaker 3>they are now accomplices in a murder. Right.

1036
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>However, well, let's keep reading it then, I mean, just

1037
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.039
<v Speaker 2>to maybe we'll get a little bit more context. I mean, hey,

1038
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I hope we will, but I doubt we will. The

1039
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.559
<v Speaker 2>woman was also consulted by a psychiatrist, who deemed her

1040
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.440
<v Speaker 2>capable of making the decision. It had been reported that

1041
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:36.000
<v Speaker 2>she had no history of mental illness. Nizchke has boasted

1042
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:38.519
<v Speaker 2>in the past that his product represents a giant leap

1043
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:42.719
<v Speaker 2>forward in the death with Dignity movement, which has seen

1044
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:46.079
<v Speaker 2>significant gains in nations across the West in recent decades,

1045
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:49.519
<v Speaker 2>including in the United States, in which eleven states have

1046
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:55.159
<v Speaker 2>legalized physician assisted suicide. In three more states, Michigan, Pennsylvania,

1047
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and New York, laws to allow physician assisted suicide have

1048
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:02.639
<v Speaker 2>been introduced into the into the state legislature. But for Nizke,

1049
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.760
<v Speaker 2>legalized physician that's I don't know why. I'm having a

1050
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:09.639
<v Speaker 2>hard time saying that word. Physician assisted suicide falls short

1051
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 2>of this ultimate vision in which assisted suicides are de medicalized,

1052
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 2>meaning that they can be obtained without doctors and psychiatrists,

1053
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:23.880
<v Speaker 2>difficult to procure drugs or hurdles of any kind. The

1054
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:27.119
<v Speaker 2>SARCO can be three be printed and it's available or

1055
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:34.159
<v Speaker 2>its plans are available on Exit International's websites. When the techniques, oh.

1056
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:37.800
<v Speaker 3>You can print your own at home, Well.

1057
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:39.639
<v Speaker 2>What about the nitrogen. You're just gonna buy some of

1058
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that too. Is that hard to get your hands on? No,

1059
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 2>not nitrogen?

1060
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Liquid nitrogen, dude.

1061
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I guess that's pretty easy to get.

1062
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Very easy to get. As a matter of fact, at

1063
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 3>one point time, I was thinking about making a liquid

1064
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 3>nitrogen ice cream company. Like, No, that's totally easy to get.

1065
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:56.280
<v Speaker 3>The expensive part is the moors to move it from

1066
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:57.119
<v Speaker 3>point A to point B.

1067
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, you can get it three D printed,

1068
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>It says. When the technology becomes available for large scale printing,

1069
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the group believes its product will become readily available to anyone.

1070
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not just some medical privilege for the very sick,

1071
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 2>he said, it's a fundamental human right. If you've got

1072
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the precious gift of life, you should be able to

1073
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:22.199
<v Speaker 2>gift that gift away at the time of your choosing.

1074
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, so this is September of this year,

1075
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 3>September thirtieth, a little over a month ago, right, and

1076
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.960
<v Speaker 3>now you know what, I just wanted to throw this

1077
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:37.039
<v Speaker 3>one out too. The doctor behind the suicide pod wants

1078
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Ai to assist at the end of life. You know,

1079
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:42.920
<v Speaker 3>I know that I'm a little bit of a hater

1080
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.360
<v Speaker 3>of Ai. Okay, I know that I'd be sipping a

1081
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:48.320
<v Speaker 3>little bit of that hater aid and I'm cool with

1082
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:53.239
<v Speaker 3>that bias. But like, big dog, what tell me this

1083
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 3>is not literally a Terminator movie?

1084
00:57:56.679 --> 00:58:01.199
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I don't want AI learning, you know,

1085
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:07.280
<v Speaker 2>from my death, because it's constantly learning. And if it could,

1086
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:10.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if it's going to find some kind of flaws, right,

1087
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.239
<v Speaker 2>because it's Ai, and it's going to be like, well,

1088
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:14.280
<v Speaker 2>if you really want to do it a little bit easier,

1089
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe you do it this way. And I don't know, dude,

1090
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm this is so sketchy.

1091
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.519
<v Speaker 3>Tell me it's not right. The death of an American

1092
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 3>woman inside Philip Nichke's latest invention reveals the next frontier

1093
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 3>in the right to die debate. How in the hell

1094
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.639
<v Speaker 3>does that have anything to do with Ai begad.

1095
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it says the world's first assistant

1096
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.920
<v Speaker 2>suicide pod wraps up around the human body like a

1097
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 2>space capsule, tilting gently toward the sky. The device is

1098
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:45.000
<v Speaker 2>designed to look as if the person inside were embarking

1099
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:51.199
<v Speaker 2>on a journey, says the inventor's He says, it gives

1100
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:55.079
<v Speaker 2>you the idea you're saying goodbye to the world, like

1101
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:56.760
<v Speaker 2>you're in a spacecraft or some shit. Is that why

1102
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:57.840
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to simulate here?

1103
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Basically, basically you're just going off to the next world, big.

1104
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Dog, right, right. So then it gets into the woman

1105
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:08.440
<v Speaker 2>that ended up doing it. She died seven minutes later,

1106
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 2>estimated the Swiss assisted suicide group the Last Resort, whose

1107
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>president Florian Willett was present at her death and was

1108
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 2>later detained for aiding and abetting the woman's suicide. Nichke

1109
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh tried to watch the video, tried to watch by

1110
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 2>video link, although he describes the signal was patchy. Oh

1111
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it was PATCHI yeah, I'm sure, buddy. Interesting

1112
00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 2>now that you can't if it was patchy, I bet you.

1113
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 2>That's his legal way of trying to get out of it.

1114
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I could see that too, Like, bro, I wouldn't even there,

1115
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Like I wouldn't even I wouldn't even there.

1116
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even see it, dude, it's fucked up.

1117
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Calm's a liar.

1118
00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Now he is using his latest device, called Sarco, named

1119
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:54.440
<v Speaker 2>after an ancient sarcophagus, to provoke a new debate around

1120
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:57.079
<v Speaker 2>the role of doctors and countries where assisted suicide has

1121
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>been made legal. In most places, the process is treated

1122
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.159
<v Speaker 2>as part of the medical system. Patients rely on medical

1123
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:08.559
<v Speaker 2>professionals first to assess whether they meet the criteria. In

1124
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:12.000
<v Speaker 2>many countries, the patients must be terminally ill. In others,

1125
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:14.480
<v Speaker 2>they must prove that they are mentally fit to consent

1126
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 2>to their decision. Well, there's a laudrey a little bit, right,

1127
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.199
<v Speaker 2>So it looks like as a result of them being

1128
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 2>compliant with the death or the suicide, and maybe they're

1129
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:30.199
<v Speaker 2>trying to label it as a homicide. Maybe that is

1130
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 2>where they're trying to bring in the AI to do

1131
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:34.639
<v Speaker 2>it so that they don't have to be there, they

1132
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.519
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be the ones that monitor it. That's

1133
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:37.039
<v Speaker 2>my guess.

1134
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because now if it was an AI bot that

1135
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:42.719
<v Speaker 3>was doing it, people can't get arrested. It was one

1136
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:45.920
<v Speaker 3>by her for her, you know, they just kind of

1137
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 3>put the pod out there, and I mean that could

1138
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.559
<v Speaker 3>have just anybody could have no, because even then it's

1139
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.039
<v Speaker 3>still like handing the alcoholic a drink, isn't it? If

1140
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 3>you put the pod out there, what happens if a

1141
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:59.719
<v Speaker 3>child would have wandered through those Swiss woods and found

1142
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 3>this and gotten inside and pushed the button like it,

1143
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know's it's maybe there's a weird gray areas.

1144
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's like a key or a code that only

1145
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:09.039
<v Speaker 2>you know or the only you have.

1146
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, there you go, a little touchpad key or a

1147
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:15.280
<v Speaker 3>thumb print keypad that like only you can get into.

1148
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now, sure, yeah, I guess so, I mean still

1149
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.960
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. I'm not saying by any means that this

1150
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:23.800
<v Speaker 2>is a good idea, and I definitely absolutely would not

1151
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 2>go that way.

1152
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:27.840
<v Speaker 3>No doubt. Now, this is a quick little vida hear

1153
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:32.920
<v Speaker 3>about from Global News about the first UH death by

1154
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:35.519
<v Speaker 3>suicide pod. Let's check it out to.

1155
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.840
<v Speaker 6>The nonprofit association The Last Resort. The device works by

1156
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:42.320
<v Speaker 6>creating a low oxygen, low carbon dioxide environment with the

1157
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.400
<v Speaker 6>use of nitrogen. A person looking to end their life

1158
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:48.280
<v Speaker 6>climbs in the three D printed capsule, pushes a button

1159
01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:51.400
<v Speaker 6>and the nitrogen gas is released, replacing the air. The

1160
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:54.199
<v Speaker 6>person is supposed to fall asleep and die by suffocation

1161
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.559
<v Speaker 6>in a few minutes. Reports say a sixty four year

1162
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.320
<v Speaker 6>old woman from the US Midwest traveled northern Switzerland and

1163
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:04.760
<v Speaker 6>ended her life using the device on Monday. In a statement,

1164
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 6>the association commented on this first death using the pod,

1165
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.960
<v Speaker 6>saying the individual had been suffering for many years from

1166
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.880
<v Speaker 6>a number of serious problems associated with severe immune compromise.

1167
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:18.400
<v Speaker 6>Laws in Switzerland allow for assisted suicide as long as

1168
01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.719
<v Speaker 6>the person takes his or her life with no external help.

1169
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 6>Lawmakers have suggested as recently as this week the capsule

1170
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 6>would not be legal.

1171
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:30.400
<v Speaker 7>They'd say that the product itself hasn't been approved for

1172
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 7>sale and that makes it a product that shouldn't be

1173
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:33.280
<v Speaker 7>on the market.

1174
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 6>The nonprofit has a different view, stating legal advice since

1175
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one has consistently found that the use of

1176
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:44.000
<v Speaker 6>Sarco in Switzerland would be lawful. Ethics professor Jacob Shelley

1177
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.039
<v Speaker 6>says there are bigger questions at play.

1178
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.320
<v Speaker 7>We're talking here about the fact that the product exists

1179
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.280
<v Speaker 7>and was used by someone to end their life without

1180
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 7>actually asking Some of the really important ethical questions as

1181
01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:58.920
<v Speaker 7>to why they may have acted in that way or

1182
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.159
<v Speaker 7>decided to end their life. If the same individual could

1183
01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:04.079
<v Speaker 7>have ended their life with a firearm and it wouldn't.

1184
01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:04.320
<v Speaker 8>Be in the news.

1185
01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:08.880
<v Speaker 6>Disability advocate and lawyer David Lprowski says expanding access to

1186
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:11.480
<v Speaker 6>assisted deaths comes with inherent risk.

1187
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 8>Whether you think this should never be allowed, or it

1188
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:17.559
<v Speaker 8>should be allowed in some cases or more cases. Wherever

1189
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:20.119
<v Speaker 8>you stand on that debate, I hope we can all

1190
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 8>agree that it should be protected with enough safeguards to

1191
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:25.719
<v Speaker 8>make sure it's never misused.

1192
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:27.719
<v Speaker 6>If you are a loved one is in need of

1193
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.199
<v Speaker 6>help or support, you can dial our text in nine

1194
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:33.000
<v Speaker 6>to eight eight from anywhere in Canada and be connected

1195
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:36.400
<v Speaker 6>with a professional through the Suicide Crisis helpline.

1196
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:41.519
<v Speaker 3>So it's interesting that that was from Canada, right because

1197
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 3>here in a moment, actually, let me see if I say, oh,

1198
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 3>I didn't pull it up. I did not pull it up.

1199
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:51.559
<v Speaker 3>Canada is now talking about bringing this to their country,

1200
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:59.079
<v Speaker 3>the SARCO. And this is kind of another take on

1201
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:02.280
<v Speaker 3>what happened in how everything went down before we get

1202
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:06.360
<v Speaker 3>to the Big m Night Shyamalan plot twist on this

1203
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:10.320
<v Speaker 3>because again they have re exhumed and checked the body

1204
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:13.639
<v Speaker 3>and it may not have been as peaceful of a

1205
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:17.280
<v Speaker 3>sleep as they would like us to believe from these articles.

1206
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's looking like that, dude. They're they're they're twitching,

1207
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:25.679
<v Speaker 2>they're shaking. I'm sorry, but that kind of seems like

1208
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 2>something that you would do if you were starving for

1209
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:32.719
<v Speaker 2>fucking oxygen trying to survive, you know what I mean, Like,

1210
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:36.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what happens like if you're drowning underwater, or if

1211
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.079
<v Speaker 2>you're you know, if like you mentioned earlier, you you

1212
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:41.599
<v Speaker 2>park your car in your garage and you keep the

1213
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:44.119
<v Speaker 2>garage doors down. You just started up and inhale all

1214
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.199
<v Speaker 2>that smoke. It's like, you know, I feel like you're

1215
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.079
<v Speaker 2>going to be twitching and there's gonna be a piece

1216
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 2>of you at if not the whole part of you.

1217
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.360
<v Speaker 2>That is like, what am I doing? Get me out

1218
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.559
<v Speaker 2>of this situation. But by that point you're done. I mean,

1219
01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much of that nitrogen has to

1220
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 2>get into your life to really put you to sleep

1221
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 2>for good. I mean they talk about like it takes

1222
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 2>a few minutes to actually die, but you know, you're

1223
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you're passing out so to say before then, I don't know.

1224
01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean four minutes with no oxygen to the brain.

1225
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:16.440
<v Speaker 3>You start to get to the realm of suffering from

1226
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:18.920
<v Speaker 3>like life altering brain.

1227
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Damage or your brain dead at that point.

1228
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Right, seven eight minutes, like yeah, you're dead and you haven't. Yeah,

1229
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I get it. I get it. And that's why they

1230
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:30.039
<v Speaker 3>say it takes like, you know, seven minutes before she

1231
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:32.760
<v Speaker 3>stopped moving or whatever, whatever the case whatever. I get

1232
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:37.760
<v Speaker 3>that part fit like scientifically. But this one, all right,

1233
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:39.599
<v Speaker 3>so this article is written November fourth.

1234
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:47.440
<v Speaker 2>What's today's date, the seventh ISSU Yeah, the seventh, all.

1235
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, So we were reading that one about from September.

1236
01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Now we're reading one from November, and we're gonna get

1237
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.280
<v Speaker 3>to the new hot take here in a moment.

1238
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:58.000
<v Speaker 2>But let's see, all right, the first person who died

1239
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:01.800
<v Speaker 2>in the so called suicide pod was three unnerving words

1240
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:05.280
<v Speaker 2>before her death, it has been revealed. So this is

1241
01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:08.519
<v Speaker 2>that sixty four year old woman. Then the same woman, yeah,

1242
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:11.400
<v Speaker 2>it said. The pod, which had never been used before

1243
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:13.719
<v Speaker 2>this allows a person inside the device to push a

1244
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 2>button that injects nitrogen gas into the sealed chamber. The

1245
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.800
<v Speaker 2>person inside is then supposed to fall asleep before dying

1246
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:23.960
<v Speaker 2>by suffocation. Swiss police are now investigating whether foul play

1247
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:27.320
<v Speaker 2>was involved after the woman's body appeared to have strangulation

1248
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:28.599
<v Speaker 2>marks on her neck.

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01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Why here we go, ladies and gentlemen, the suicide pod

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01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:37.559
<v Speaker 3>that was supposed to be this super dignified way of

1251
01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:41.119
<v Speaker 3>just going to sleep and all that. Apparently there was

1252
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:45.440
<v Speaker 3>something else going on with this first patient, the first

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01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:47.760
<v Speaker 3>person to ever use it, and all these people got

1254
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:51.320
<v Speaker 3>arrested immediately after and all of this. There's a little

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01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:53.159
<v Speaker 3>bit more to that, as it turns out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the president of Sarko's operator, the last resort, doctor

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01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Florian Willett, was was arrested a lot along with several

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01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 2>other people nearby. Willet was the only person present when

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01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:07.159
<v Speaker 2>the woman died. The inventor of the Sarco, Philip Nitschke,

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01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:09.679
<v Speaker 2>followed the process by video call, but was unable to

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01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:12.480
<v Speaker 2>catch all of it due to its technical difficulties. As

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01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the woman approached the capsule, along with doctor Willett, removed

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01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:21.760
<v Speaker 2>a green tarp paulin tarpaullium tart tarp okay, a green tarp.

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01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I did not know that tarp was a short version

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01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 2>of a longer word. How about that anyway? Doctor Willett

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01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.800
<v Speaker 2>removed the green tarp covering the pod. If you were

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01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 2>ready question mark, doctor Willett asked her, According to Dutch

1268
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:43.440
<v Speaker 2>newspaper something. She responded, do I leave my shoes on?

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01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Willett said she could keep them on as long

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01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:50.440
<v Speaker 2>as she laid down. He also asked whether she would

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01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:53.079
<v Speaker 2>like to speak to doctor Nichke over video call, to

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01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.920
<v Speaker 2>which she declined, or to which he declined. Doctor Willett,

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01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:59.559
<v Speaker 2>who was the only person present, took this as an

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01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:05.000
<v Speaker 2>indication that the process could begin, telling Nichke, it seems

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01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:08.559
<v Speaker 2>that Blank is ready to go. The woman then closed

1276
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the lid herself and a blue button lit up, indicating

1277
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.239
<v Speaker 2>the pressure inside the capsule. Ready, okay, she said to

1278
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:18.119
<v Speaker 2>doctor Willett, and what would be her final words? She

1279
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.119
<v Speaker 2>then pressed the button to trigger the process. The woman

1280
01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:23.159
<v Speaker 2>was said to have wanted to die for at least

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01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:26.199
<v Speaker 2>two years after suffering a very serious illness that involves

1282
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.239
<v Speaker 2>severe pain. The mother of two began breathing deeply and

1283
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.680
<v Speaker 2>calmly as nitrogen filled the capsule. Keep on breathing, Doctor

1284
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Willett told her the final three unnerving words she likely heard.

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01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind a different twist now that there's new information,

1286
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:43.920
<v Speaker 3>doesn't it will?

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01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:46.880
<v Speaker 2>It remains in police custody in Switzerland nearly five weeks

1288
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:49.439
<v Speaker 2>after the incident. He was the only person present when

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01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:53.119
<v Speaker 2>the woman died, describing her death as peaceful, fast and dignified.

1290
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:56.800
<v Speaker 2>But the Swiss chief prosecutor of the case, Peter Stitcher,

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01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.840
<v Speaker 2>thinks that the death might have gone quite differently, raising

1292
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.119
<v Speaker 2>suspicions that the woman may have been strangled in a

1293
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 2>case of intentional homicide, reports the Dutch newspaper. The newspaper

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01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:12.000
<v Speaker 2>reports that the pod is opened and closed several times

1295
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 2>before the woman presses the button, which triggers the procedure

1296
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to test its closure. A forensic doctor president at the

1297
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.640
<v Speaker 2>scene told the court that the woman had, among other things,

1298
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:25.199
<v Speaker 2>severe injuries to her neck. According to the news outlet,

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01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the company president, who was standing beside the woman throughout

1300
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the event, was heard to tell the POD's designer over

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01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:36.960
<v Speaker 2>video call, she's still alive, Philip, Oh my god, imagine.

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01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh yeah. The comments was peaceful, fast and dignified.

1303
01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh that doesn't seem like it. The comments came six

1304
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and a half minutes after the user pressed the button

1305
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to end her own life. The president is said to

1306
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.720
<v Speaker 2>have been confused by the sound of an alarm thought

1307
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:01.399
<v Speaker 2>to be a heart rate monitor. The hear how he

1308
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:04.760
<v Speaker 2>continued to lean over the SARCO pod to peer inside

1309
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:09.159
<v Speaker 2>before the alarm ceases. Oh my god.

1310
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1311
01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:13.720
<v Speaker 2>The woman decided to take her life using the Sarco

1312
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:16.079
<v Speaker 2>because of a long standing disease. The company said she

1313
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:20.359
<v Speaker 2>had been diagnosed with skull based osteomylitis. Damn, did I

1314
01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:20.920
<v Speaker 2>just crush that?

1315
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.680
<v Speaker 3>I think you did bro fucking.

1316
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Cross anyway, It's an infection of the bone marrow. She

1317
01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:30.439
<v Speaker 2>said that she had wished to die for at least

1318
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.600
<v Speaker 2>two years. Very serious illness that causes severe pains, YadA, YadA.

1319
01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Due to an immune disorder, the woman was unable to

1320
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:41.199
<v Speaker 2>receive effective treatment for her osteomylitis, the last resort disclosed.

1321
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.159
<v Speaker 2>After being notified of her death by the two lawyers

1322
01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:46.680
<v Speaker 2>involved in the project and present at the scene, the

1323
01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 2>police swept the forest and arrested everyone near the SARCO,

1324
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.199
<v Speaker 2>including a photographer for the newspaper.

1325
01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean pretty much everybody is now guilty until

1326
01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:59.359
<v Speaker 3>proven innocent, right.

1327
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess if you're guilty, if if you're

1328
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 2>at the scene of a homicide and you're not trying

1329
01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:11.359
<v Speaker 2>to prevent it, you're not doing anything about it, that

1330
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:15.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of makes you part of it then, right, and accomplice,

1331
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you'd think, so, yeah, because they had.

1332
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.199
<v Speaker 3>If you were standing by a rape happening but you

1333
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:23.920
<v Speaker 3>weren't a part of it and you did nothing, are

1334
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:24.760
<v Speaker 3>you compliant?

1335
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:26.920
<v Speaker 2>And I guess that would have to be first degree

1336
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:29.560
<v Speaker 2>as well, because they had prior knowledge and planned on this.

1337
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:36.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, premeditated, right, damn? Like I mean, it's it's

1338
01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:39.199
<v Speaker 3>this is why it's one of those crazy ethical questions.

1339
01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:42.199
<v Speaker 3>But now to this next part is where the ethical

1340
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:47.079
<v Speaker 3>questions just get removed altogether. These people were fucking told, dude,

1341
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:47.479
<v Speaker 3>go ahead.

1342
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:51.960
<v Speaker 2>In September, Chief Prosecutor Stitcher told Swiss newspaper Blick. We

1343
01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:54.479
<v Speaker 2>warned them in writing. We said that if they came

1344
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:58.600
<v Speaker 2>to Schoffhausen and use SARCO, they would they would face

1345
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:03.279
<v Speaker 2>criminal consequence. Everyone arrested has since been released, except for

1346
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Willett Volks Grant had. The newspaper has questioned why Stitcher

1347
01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:11.840
<v Speaker 2>has not publicly accused Willet of intentional homicide but has

1348
01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:14.520
<v Speaker 2>been using the suspicion to get judges to extend will

1349
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:17.960
<v Speaker 2>It's custody. A criminal investigation into the pod is underway,

1350
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.840
<v Speaker 2>and all of the three hundred and seventy one active

1351
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:26.479
<v Speaker 2>applications have been suspended for use. Okay, so it's actually

1352
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:28.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty sad known there's three hundred and seventy one people

1353
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:30.640
<v Speaker 2>that signed up for that shit it is.

1354
01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:33.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you should see the number of suicides every

1355
01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:39.479
<v Speaker 3>year around the globe. It's truly heartbreaking. But that being said,

1356
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:44.800
<v Speaker 3>already she's still alive Philip, and now their strangulation marks

1357
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:47.600
<v Speaker 3>around their neck, and now there's only one of them

1358
01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:53.039
<v Speaker 3>that has not been released. It's very very, very suspect.

1359
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:55.319
<v Speaker 3>And all of this shit, all of this was supposed

1360
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:59.199
<v Speaker 3>to be so peaceful and all of this well, let's

1361
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:01.039
<v Speaker 3>go ahead and read this one. Actually, this is from

1362
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.239
<v Speaker 3>board panda dot com. I thought that was funny. That's

1363
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:04.760
<v Speaker 3>why I want to give him a shout out. This

1364
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:07.880
<v Speaker 3>is actually written and released on Halloween of this year.

1365
01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:11.680
<v Speaker 3>She's still alive. The first person to use euthanasia pod

1366
01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:14.720
<v Speaker 3>found with strangulation marks around her neck.

1367
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:21.479
<v Speaker 2>A secluded forest near Marishausen, Switzerland, became the center of

1368
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:25.520
<v Speaker 2>controversy when a so called suicide capsule claimed its first

1369
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:29.159
<v Speaker 2>life under deeply questionable circumstances. Talking about the sixty four

1370
01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:34.800
<v Speaker 2>year old woman mid She's from the Midwest in the

1371
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:39.079
<v Speaker 2>United States. It led to multiple arrests after she became

1372
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:41.439
<v Speaker 2>the first person to use the sarcopod at a high

1373
01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:44.560
<v Speaker 2>tech device, promising a peaceful, dignified end to life.

1374
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:49.199
<v Speaker 3>Right, no doubt. Now, let's just see these highlights real quick.

1375
01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:51.800
<v Speaker 3>The woman, a US woman, became the first use of

1376
01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:55.239
<v Speaker 3>sarcopod high tech device. We got that. The device. The

1377
01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:57.560
<v Speaker 3>death of the mother of two raised disturbing questions after

1378
01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:02.279
<v Speaker 3>the autopsy reportedly found stringul marks on her neck. Doctor

1379
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.399
<v Speaker 3>Floyd Willett, president the Last Resort the organization, was arrested

1380
01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:09.199
<v Speaker 3>and Exit International was the organization behind the development of

1381
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:13.119
<v Speaker 3>the one million dollar device. Okay, so those are just

1382
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:17.119
<v Speaker 3>kind of the key takeaways on that. But what is

1383
01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:20.600
<v Speaker 3>up with these strangulation marks? Right right?

1384
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean well, it says that doctor Florian Willett,

1385
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:27.840
<v Speaker 2>president of the Last Resort, do da da Okay, I

1386
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:29.920
<v Speaker 2>don't want to keep on reading over what we already read,

1387
01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:30.880
<v Speaker 2>but it says.

1388
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm trying to see that. Yeah, strangulation marks on

1389
01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:35.600
<v Speaker 3>a woman's neck.

1390
01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, so it says Exit International is also the

1391
01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:43.119
<v Speaker 2>organization behind the development of the one million dollar device.

1392
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:47.720
<v Speaker 2>An autopsy reportedly revealed strangulation marks on the woman's neck,

1393
01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:53.560
<v Speaker 2>prompting Schaffhausen's public prosecutor, Peter Stitcher, to broaden the investigation

1394
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:58.920
<v Speaker 2>to consider the possibility of murder. According to the local

1395
01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:06.560
<v Speaker 2>news outlets, Yeah, well, I tell you what, I guess

1396
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:10.279
<v Speaker 2>if if the device is not working the way you

1397
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:13.119
<v Speaker 2>thought it would, but the but the person that's in there,

1398
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.319
<v Speaker 2>in there is already like to the point of no

1399
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:20.479
<v Speaker 2>coming back. Maybe uh, they're already vegetative. You know, you

1400
01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:22.760
<v Speaker 2>you already lost so much oxygen, you're taken in too

1401
01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:25.720
<v Speaker 2>much nitrogen at that point, but you're still going to live.

1402
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Because maybe it wasn't enough. Maybe there was a cank

1403
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:30.720
<v Speaker 2>in the hose or something that was you know, given

1404
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:34.359
<v Speaker 2>the nitrogen or something like that. Maybe they lost electricity.

1405
01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe imagine a power out long amount

1406
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:41.600
<v Speaker 2>of nitrogen and it didn't do the job one hundred percent. Dude,

1407
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:43.560
<v Speaker 2>imagine a power outage in the middle of one of

1408
01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:46.560
<v Speaker 2>these things. You're done.

1409
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:48.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was in the middle of the woods.

1410
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:49.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming it.

1411
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Was battery operated or solar maybe a little short circuit.

1412
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Well it I guess if this is the very first time,

1413
01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and this guy probably thought that it was a gene

1414
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:02.920
<v Speaker 2>idea and everybody's going to be using this all across

1415
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the world, and then all of a sudden there's some

1416
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:09.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of malfunction, something goes wrong whatever and all, and

1417
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:13.560
<v Speaker 2>also does this kind of sound a little epsteiny? The

1418
01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:14.800
<v Speaker 2>video goes out.

1419
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:18.279
<v Speaker 3>And he already said in the beginning, Remember that was

1420
01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:21.119
<v Speaker 3>from September. The guy that was trying to video call

1421
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:23.279
<v Speaker 3>in said that the footage was already kind of greeny,

1422
01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:26.600
<v Speaker 3>it was scattered whatever. Now that the strangle thing has

1423
01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.880
<v Speaker 3>come out, Oh well, I didn't see that. My video

1424
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:31.760
<v Speaker 3>feed wasn't the best and blah blah, bob. He was

1425
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:35.039
<v Speaker 3>already kind of putting distance on himself before this came out.

1426
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:37.560
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if he knew that this was happening, and

1427
01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:40.880
<v Speaker 3>so he already deleted the videos and was like, oops, yeah, bro,

1428
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:43.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know what I even saw. Like, truthfully,

1429
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't even there, you know. I it's interesting how

1430
01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:49.079
<v Speaker 3>that kind of lined up with the rest of this.

1431
01:16:49.119 --> 01:16:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Bro.

1432
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Now look at this LBC reported that about six and

1433
01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:55.119
<v Speaker 3>a half minutes after the American woman pressed the button

1434
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:58.560
<v Speaker 3>to end her life, doctor Florian told the Posita designer

1435
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:02.039
<v Speaker 3>over video call, she still alive, Philip. Both groups, the

1436
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:05.399
<v Speaker 3>Last Resort and Exit International, released a joint statement on

1437
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Tuesday denying the claims of the injuries on the woman's neck.

1438
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:12.079
<v Speaker 3>The Last Resort and Exit International maintained that the SARCO

1439
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:16.039
<v Speaker 3>worked precisely as planned and the user died peacefully from

1440
01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:21.520
<v Speaker 3>nitrogen hype hypoxia. Read the statement, the allegations of the

1441
01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:26.079
<v Speaker 3>of in their intentional homicide are ridiculous and absurd. The

1442
01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Last Resort and Exit International strongly reject these allegations. Bro,

1443
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:34.479
<v Speaker 3>So they're already acknowledging that the OK, yeah it looks

1444
01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:36.840
<v Speaker 3>like she strangled, and yeah, in the video we said

1445
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:39.359
<v Speaker 3>she's still alive. But it totally wasn't us.

1446
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Dog dude, there could have been. And I don't mean

1447
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:44.920
<v Speaker 2>to make a joke out of this, because this is

1448
01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:47.800
<v Speaker 2>obviously a fucked up thing that's going on. But like

1449
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:54.000
<v Speaker 2>sometimes whenever you name something something with you know, like

1450
01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:58.039
<v Speaker 2>whatever pertains to like all right, for example, in that

1451
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:01.800
<v Speaker 2>uh in that political uh rape show that we did

1452
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:04.159
<v Speaker 2>the other day. You know, there was a person on

1453
01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:07.079
<v Speaker 2>there who was raping children whose last name was child, right,

1454
01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:10.239
<v Speaker 2>so it might have been like a foreshadowing, a precursor

1455
01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:12.640
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Right, But then you look over here at

1456
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:16.279
<v Speaker 2>last Resort and it's like, you know, it just makes

1457
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:21.239
<v Speaker 2>me think of cutting my life into pieces. That's kind

1458
01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:24.279
<v Speaker 2>of I mean, you had to strangle this person, you know,

1459
01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:26.039
<v Speaker 2>to really kill her, so that.

1460
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:29.359
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't supposed to happen. But apparently the device worked exactly

1461
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:33.359
<v Speaker 3>as intended. Even though the video said clearly and everybody's

1462
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:37.359
<v Speaker 3>agreeing on this, she's still alive, Philip, Like, okay, next thing,

1463
01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:40.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, their strangulation marks, and it's like y'all are

1464
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:42.880
<v Speaker 3>trying to deny this when y'all have cameras on her,

1465
01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and didn't y'all get her approved by like certain psychiatric

1466
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:48.800
<v Speaker 3>people before she stepped in to clear any chance of

1467
01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:51.640
<v Speaker 3>like this. She was depressed and she wasn't right, she

1468
01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:54.479
<v Speaker 3>was no, no, no, y'all got her totally cleared hot,

1469
01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:57.840
<v Speaker 3>and no one noticed any marks on her neck before

1470
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:02.600
<v Speaker 3>she got in the pod went unnoticed before she commits suicide,

1471
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 3>that would be a red flag.

1472
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe now I know that we're heading towards a possible

1473
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:12.039
<v Speaker 2>golden age, and there's gonna be lots of innovation. Everything's

1474
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:15.720
<v Speaker 2>going to be very advanced, you know, eventually at some

1475
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:18.560
<v Speaker 2>point and maybe this does become a thing at some

1476
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:23.000
<v Speaker 2>point in the future, whenever there aren't fucking idiots that

1477
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:25.239
<v Speaker 2>are just trying to make a buck because of their

1478
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:28.680
<v Speaker 2>grand idea and hopes that like that this is going

1479
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:30.520
<v Speaker 2>to be awesome, but then it doesn't work, so all

1480
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:31.920
<v Speaker 2>we got to hurry up and strangle her and make

1481
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:34.680
<v Speaker 2>sure she dies. It's like, maybe it's not the time

1482
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:37.439
<v Speaker 2>for this yet, you know what I'm saying, Like if

1483
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:39.359
<v Speaker 2>there is going to be a time, right.

1484
01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:43.479
<v Speaker 3>Maybe never, Like maybe, like hey, never kill yourself. Like

1485
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:45.920
<v Speaker 3>if you're listening to this podcast right now, Hey, listen,

1486
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:48.840
<v Speaker 3>somebody loves you, and somebody doesn't want to go to

1487
01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:52.479
<v Speaker 3>your funeral. Yo, keep on trucking. Do not do it,

1488
01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Like there's so much to live for, you know what

1489
01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean? Dude?

1490
01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, dude. This whole thing is just

1491
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.680
<v Speaker 2>really fucking sadistic.

1492
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:03.000
<v Speaker 1>It is.

1493
01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:05.359
<v Speaker 3>It is, But the fact that this is trying to

1494
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:08.319
<v Speaker 3>be pushed and that it was an American woman, some

1495
01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Midwestern just a some nobody, a mother of two. That's

1496
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.239
<v Speaker 3>all we got. Sixty four years old, that's all they're saying.

1497
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:19.800
<v Speaker 3>She was suffering from apparently allegedly a bone infection or

1498
01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:23.159
<v Speaker 3>a bone cancer if you will, bow marrow, and she

1499
01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:25.039
<v Speaker 3>was in a lot of pain. She wanted to die

1500
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:27.880
<v Speaker 3>all this, but then six and a half minutes into it,

1501
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:29.760
<v Speaker 3>whenever it was only supposed to go for only a

1502
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:33.199
<v Speaker 3>few she's still alive. Then they're strangle marks. Go ahead

1503
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:34.319
<v Speaker 3>and keep reading this one dog.

1504
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:38.520
<v Speaker 2>The group maintains that the recorded film footage from two cameras,

1505
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:41.960
<v Speaker 2>one inside and one outside the euthanasia pod, captured the

1506
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:46.039
<v Speaker 2>woman entering the pod without any assistance. The woman closed

1507
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 2>the lid of the SARCO unaided. The woman pressed the

1508
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:52.720
<v Speaker 2>internal activation button herself. The lid of the SARCO was

1509
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:55.880
<v Speaker 2>not opened until forensic staff arrived at the scene of

1510
01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the SARCO at nineteen twenty two, so seven twenty two

1511
01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>in the on September twenty third, twenty twenty four. Furthermore,

1512
01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the level of oxygen was recorded and can be shown

1513
01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to have remained at lethal levels within the capsule until

1514
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:15.039
<v Speaker 2>well after the woman had died. Oh okay, why would

1515
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you need to strangle her?

1516
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:21.079
<v Speaker 3>Then, yeah, what did huh?

1517
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:23.279
<v Speaker 2>You know what's even sketchier, Like I didn't even think

1518
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:28.439
<v Speaker 2>about it until now, But what if what if she

1519
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:32.920
<v Speaker 2>was trying to assist that, what if she was strangling herself?

1520
01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they would mention that if she wasn't psychotic, right,

1521
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.399
<v Speaker 3>they said that she was mentally completely sound minded. There's

1522
01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:43.520
<v Speaker 3>no way that she could have squeezed her own neck

1523
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:47.119
<v Speaker 3>hard enough to make bruises like that, There's no way.

1524
01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess so. And also inflicting that kind of pain

1525
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:54.960
<v Speaker 2>strangling yourself. It's like, you know that like our our jaw,

1526
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:58.039
<v Speaker 2>our jaw muscles and our teeth are strong enough to

1527
01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:01.079
<v Speaker 2>like bite through our finger, like the bone everything, but

1528
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:05.439
<v Speaker 2>we just obviously we don't, but like to strangle yourself.

1529
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:09.640
<v Speaker 2>That's you're not gonna do that. I don't think. No,

1530
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:12.399
<v Speaker 2>you're not, and you're not gonna be leaving those kind

1531
01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:13.960
<v Speaker 2>of marks on your neck. If you are, like I

1532
01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:16.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like you're gonna be at least a little you know,

1533
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:20.399
<v Speaker 2>a less bullshit masochistic towards it.

1534
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:24.199
<v Speaker 3>It's absolute bullshit. Somebody is lying at some point of this,

1535
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:27.760
<v Speaker 3>either A they're lying that she wasn't mentally you know,

1536
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:32.640
<v Speaker 3>all good to go. B they're lying about who killed

1537
01:22:32.640 --> 01:22:35.000
<v Speaker 3>her or see, because that other report said that the

1538
01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:37.479
<v Speaker 3>machine's door had been opened and closed a few times.

1539
01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Now they're saying that the door was closed and it

1540
01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:43.319
<v Speaker 3>hadn't wasn't open until it was all done. Something is

1541
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:47.039
<v Speaker 3>not right here. But either way, the strangled lady is

1542
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:47.880
<v Speaker 3>still dead.

1543
01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Right right. And I was also just thinking too, it's

1544
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:55.039
<v Speaker 2>if she had strangled herself, why would the people that

1545
01:22:55.079 --> 01:23:00.000
<v Speaker 2>were there watching it withhold that kind of information, you know, right?

1546
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:02.680
<v Speaker 3>That would be kind of something that needs to go

1547
01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:03.319
<v Speaker 3>in the report.

1548
01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I imagine if she went into it with

1549
01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:11.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, the marks on her neck already, there might

1550
01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:16.319
<v Speaker 2>have been questions as far as her mental stability goes. Right, Yeah,

1551
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:18.520
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. These people don't exactly seem ethical

1552
01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to me, so they might have just let that go anyway.

1553
01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:24.479
<v Speaker 3>Or strangled her. So their ethics are all the way

1554
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:27.079
<v Speaker 3>out the window, because this is their first time. They're

1555
01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:29.359
<v Speaker 3>made in voyage, and if something goes wrong, they'll never

1556
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:32.640
<v Speaker 3>get funding or anything ever again, and they're getting arrested,

1557
01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 3>so they're gonna make sure it gets successfully done one

1558
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:37.560
<v Speaker 3>way or another dot dot dot.

1559
01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:41.359
<v Speaker 2>It seems like it. Yeah, it definitely seems like there's

1560
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:44.479
<v Speaker 2>some sketchy shit going on here. And uh yeah, don't

1561
01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:47.319
<v Speaker 2>sign up for the fucking suicide pod. Just don't do that.

1562
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look here, bro. The Last Resort previously told

1563
01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:53.239
<v Speaker 3>The Daily Mail that around one hundred and twenty applicants

1564
01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:56.560
<v Speaker 3>wished to use the Sarco to bring their lives to

1565
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:59.359
<v Speaker 3>an end. However, usage of the Sarco pod was suspended

1566
01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:02.039
<v Speaker 3>as the investment destigation into the first user's death is

1567
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:06.439
<v Speaker 3>currently underway. So you know, it's just one of those things.

1568
01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:09.479
<v Speaker 3>It's wild. It's wild. Time to be alive. And so

1569
01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:11.800
<v Speaker 3>now let's go ahead and read or hear read let's

1570
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:17.960
<v Speaker 3>hear this sun little video about this whole situation. Bro,

1571
01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:19.600
<v Speaker 3>This is this is kind of crazy.

1572
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:22.960
<v Speaker 9>The first woman to die inside a controversial suicide pod

1573
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:26.840
<v Speaker 9>was allegedly found with strangulation marks on her neck. The

1574
01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:29.920
<v Speaker 9>sixty four year old American citizen ended her life in

1575
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:33.199
<v Speaker 9>September with the help of an assisted dying group, which

1576
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:37.800
<v Speaker 9>presented the band Sacropod in Zurich earlier this year, but

1577
01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:41.359
<v Speaker 9>a leading prosecutor probing the case has alleged that her

1578
01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:45.760
<v Speaker 9>death is manslaughter after a forensic expert found injuries near

1579
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:49.560
<v Speaker 9>her neck that appeared similar to strangulation marks. The anonymous

1580
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:53.359
<v Speaker 9>woman was reportedly terminally ill and had been dying for

1581
01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:58.039
<v Speaker 9>two years. She was diagnosed with osteomylitis, a disease that

1582
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:01.399
<v Speaker 9>could have been manifested the alleged injury marks on her

1583
01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:04.359
<v Speaker 9>neck at the time of her death. Local media said

1584
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:08.720
<v Speaker 9>the woman traveled to Switzerland specifically to use the suicide capsule,

1585
01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:11.800
<v Speaker 9>but her death has now raised a host of legal

1586
01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:16.199
<v Speaker 9>and ethical questions. In Switzerland, where active euthanasia is banned

1587
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:19.880
<v Speaker 9>but assisted dying has been legal for decades. Corps have

1588
01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:23.479
<v Speaker 9>now arrested doctor Florian Willett, the president of the Last

1589
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:27.079
<v Speaker 9>Resort organization who assisted the woman to end her life.

1590
01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:30.600
<v Speaker 9>He is said to be the only person present when

1591
01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:35.039
<v Speaker 9>the woman ended her life. Peter Stitcher, a chief prosecutor

1592
01:25:35.079 --> 01:25:38.680
<v Speaker 9>investigating the death of the woman, has now raised suspicions

1593
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:43.159
<v Speaker 9>of international homicide after alleging she was strangulated to death.

1594
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:48.880
<v Speaker 9>He has demanded a court order to extend will It's custody. However,

1595
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:52.399
<v Speaker 9>there is no official autopsy report to support the claim,

1596
01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:56.920
<v Speaker 9>and Stitches has not yet publicly accused last resort's boss

1597
01:25:56.920 --> 01:26:01.600
<v Speaker 9>of international homicide. The prosecute rushed to the crime scene

1598
01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:05.319
<v Speaker 9>with a large grip of cops and forensic experts. Together,

1599
01:26:05.720 --> 01:26:09.479
<v Speaker 9>they arrested two lawyers providing legal assistance to the organization

1600
01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:14.319
<v Speaker 9>and a Dutch journalist alongside with it. Stitcher said the

1601
01:26:14.439 --> 01:26:17.560
<v Speaker 9>arrests were made to make sure they were not colluding

1602
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:21.279
<v Speaker 9>with each other or covering up the evidence. They were

1603
01:26:21.319 --> 01:26:26.000
<v Speaker 9>told they were being suspected of inciting suicide and providing

1604
01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:31.399
<v Speaker 9>suicide assistance. Switzerland's Interior Minister Elizabeth Schneider said the controversial

1605
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:34.880
<v Speaker 9>suicide pod is not compliant with the Swiss laws. Around

1606
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:37.920
<v Speaker 9>twelve fifty people ended their lives using assisted suicide in

1607
01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:41.960
<v Speaker 9>Switzerland last year, but assisted suicide and euthenasia are illegal

1608
01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:42.800
<v Speaker 9>in the UK.

1609
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:46.479
<v Speaker 4>Well, so the prosecutors in Switzerland. They have opened criminal

1610
01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:52.079
<v Speaker 4>proceedings against several members. We don't know exact names or

1611
01:26:52.119 --> 01:26:55.199
<v Speaker 4>who they are, but it's all related to a first

1612
01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:59.960
<v Speaker 4>assisted suicide case of what's believed to be in America.

1613
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:03.960
<v Speaker 4>The cases believed to be of an American woman who

1614
01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:11.760
<v Speaker 4>died with assisted suicide with this capsule called this Sarco

1615
01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:16.560
<v Speaker 4>suicide capsule. This will happened in September, and there is

1616
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:21.520
<v Speaker 4>some controversial controversy in this case. First of all, recently

1617
01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.720
<v Speaker 4>the prosecutors have found some strangulation marks on her next,

1618
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:28.640
<v Speaker 4>so this could really steer the investigation into kind of

1619
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:33.720
<v Speaker 4>international homicide direction. Well, there are several proceedings of these

1620
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:38.920
<v Speaker 4>individuals who are suspected of insight in suicide and assist

1621
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:43.640
<v Speaker 4>in suicide. It's called the Sarco suicide cupsule or the

1622
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Sarco part and it was invented by euthanasia campaigner Philip

1623
01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Nichtke in twenty seventeen. So what happens is that the

1624
01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:57.159
<v Speaker 4>company receives applications and the applicant then receives once they

1625
01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:01.000
<v Speaker 4>pass a mental health test on line, they receive a

1626
01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:03.880
<v Speaker 4>code which is valid for twenty four hours to access

1627
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 4>this pot, and this pot can be transported to different

1628
01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:11.399
<v Speaker 4>locations according to where the applicant wishes to end their lives.

1629
01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:15.319
<v Speaker 4>Then the person uses this code to enter the capsule,

1630
01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:19.640
<v Speaker 4>goes inside and then presses the button and this activates.

1631
01:28:20.439 --> 01:28:23.680
<v Speaker 4>How it works is that the capsule rapidly decreases the

1632
01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:27.399
<v Speaker 4>level of oxygen inside and quickly fills it with nitrogen

1633
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:30.920
<v Speaker 4>and so then the user is meant to first of

1634
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:35.359
<v Speaker 4>all feel dizzy and then lose consciousness and then eventually die. Well,

1635
01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:39.960
<v Speaker 4>we've heard from the soccer's inventor. He was actually speaking

1636
01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:45.319
<v Speaker 4>regarding directly that the death of the American woman. He

1637
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:50.439
<v Speaker 4>actually said that, well, her death went well, and that

1638
01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:55.079
<v Speaker 4>he apparently followed her death via video link. And he

1639
01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:58.880
<v Speaker 4>said that she entered the pod, pressed the button very quickly.

1640
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:03.159
<v Speaker 4>She didn't. It took her a few minutes to do that.

1641
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Then she lost consciousness after about two minutes to be inside,

1642
01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:10.079
<v Speaker 4>and then she died after about five minutes. And the

1643
01:29:10.119 --> 01:29:14.600
<v Speaker 4>inventor said, quote, it looked exactly how we expected it to.

1644
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Look five minutes. Even those six and a half minutes,

1645
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:24.399
<v Speaker 3>she's still alive, Philip. But you know whatever, And how

1646
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.199
<v Speaker 3>about the quote on there on the capsule itself, we

1647
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:29.720
<v Speaker 3>are made of star stuff. We are away for the

1648
01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:34.319
<v Speaker 3>universe to know itself. It's a Carl second quote. Interesting,

1649
01:29:34.439 --> 01:29:35.840
<v Speaker 3>you know you're not being shot up.

1650
01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Into the fucking universe. No, I don't know why that

1651
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:42.199
<v Speaker 2>sentence is even on there.

1652
01:29:43.920 --> 01:29:47.800
<v Speaker 3>It was in Zurich, dude, that we were showcased in

1653
01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:49.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty seventeen, in Zurich.

1654
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course, it was just throwing.

1655
01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Out a world economic m isn't that where it's at?

1656
01:29:56.479 --> 01:30:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Well, yeah, these people, they know you think, you know.

1657
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:02.880
<v Speaker 3>If rather to reduce the world's population by ten percent.

1658
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:04.479
<v Speaker 2>Right, No, you're thinking of Davos.

1659
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:06.279
<v Speaker 3>Ah, shit, my bad.

1660
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you're right. But yet that's what a shitty way

1661
01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:15.279
<v Speaker 2>to go, dude, especially if she's strangled. But I don't know. Yeah,

1662
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>it does make sense though, if you really think about it. Yeah,

1663
01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you want to include the world's elites,

1664
01:30:19.600 --> 01:30:22.439
<v Speaker 2>you want to include Bill Gates, get rid of what

1665
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:24.600
<v Speaker 2>is it, ten percent of the people in the world

1666
01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:27.399
<v Speaker 2>through the use of vaccines within the next ten years

1667
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it was. It's like, you know, these people

1668
01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:33.920
<v Speaker 2>want to kill off as many people as humanly possible

1669
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:38.359
<v Speaker 2>in the name of carbon. I don't think it's I

1670
01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>think that that's actually a facade personally, Like I think

1671
01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:44.239
<v Speaker 2>the whole carbon shit. Did you know, dude, the amount

1672
01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>of carbon that is on this planet right now has

1673
01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:50.439
<v Speaker 2>always been the same, will always be the same. Yeah,

1674
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:51.760
<v Speaker 2>So why are we so worried about it?

1675
01:30:52.399 --> 01:30:54.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, the carbon cycle the same way like the

1676
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:58.119
<v Speaker 3>water cycle. Like, yeah, dude, that's a real thing that

1677
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:02.119
<v Speaker 3>for some reason, all of these geniuses just like ignore,

1678
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:05.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't get it, I don't I just love killing

1679
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:07.399
<v Speaker 3>people for no fucking reason, dude.

1680
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:09.359
<v Speaker 2>It's like, for some reason, once you get to be

1681
01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:12.720
<v Speaker 2>that that level of wealthy that you don't even really

1682
01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>need to wake up and go to work, it's like

1683
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, like they're just getting off to this

1684
01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. And then especially you find out that

1685
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Epstein was on the flight logs that's why his wife

1686
01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>left them, And it's like, all right, well, yes, there

1687
01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:30.479
<v Speaker 2>was absolutely you know, some some underage raping going on

1688
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:33.079
<v Speaker 2>over at Epstein Island, but we've we've brought it up before,

1689
01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:37.399
<v Speaker 2>like is that I mean, not that that's harmless by

1690
01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:40.479
<v Speaker 2>any means, but I can't imagine that's all that was

1691
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:43.199
<v Speaker 2>going on. I mean, there was different levels to that

1692
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:46.159
<v Speaker 2>whole island. I mean, there was who knows.

1693
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:49.239
<v Speaker 3>What's called on temple dog right? Why was there a temple?

1694
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:54.359
<v Speaker 3>No reason any anybody want to explain that, like, oh yeah,

1695
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:57.239
<v Speaker 3>well it was just you know, it was just pedophilic.

1696
01:31:57.319 --> 01:32:00.279
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't satanic, there wasn't any kind of ritual there was.

1697
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:07.159
<v Speaker 3>Why was there a temple on Epstein island. Also what

1698
01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:11.239
<v Speaker 3>it was used for? What the island was used for? Y'all.

1699
01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Let y'all's imaginations answer that one for you, because I

1700
01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:15.800
<v Speaker 3>already know what's up.

1701
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Also, they're calling this they said that, didn't They say

1702
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that it was a million dollars to make these things?

1703
01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1704
01:32:22.119 --> 01:32:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Three D printable bro, all right.

1705
01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>So it's a million dollars to make it. And I

1706
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine that that woman paid a million dollars to

1707
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:33.840
<v Speaker 2>have this process done. And correct me if I'm wrong.

1708
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:37.560
<v Speaker 2>A sarcophagus is only used once, is not used multiple times.

1709
01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:41.079
<v Speaker 2>So what exactly is happening to this body once? Once

1710
01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>she dies?

1711
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:45.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, she had specific instructions on what she wanted her

1712
01:32:45.439 --> 01:32:50.800
<v Speaker 3>kids to do with the body, but neither here nor there, Dude.

1713
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:54.159
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to turn people into mulch. There's a whole

1714
01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:57.000
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy around this whole thing about like if there was

1715
01:32:57.039 --> 01:33:03.439
<v Speaker 3>some sort of mass u pandemic, plandemic whatever where they

1716
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:05.640
<v Speaker 3>need to get rid of a bunch of bodies really quickly,

1717
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.399
<v Speaker 3>they could actually start using it to make more land.

1718
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:13.039
<v Speaker 3>Think of like what's going on in guitar right now

1719
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:15.680
<v Speaker 3>with the whole sand thing, Dude, they could be using

1720
01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:19.479
<v Speaker 3>people to fix erosion problems, and shit.

1721
01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're already finding ways for us not to

1722
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:28.399
<v Speaker 2>have a use for trees anymore by burying them. Who's

1723
01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:31.359
<v Speaker 2>to say this catches fire and they're like, oh, wow,

1724
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:36.319
<v Speaker 2>it's really starting to look pretty damn good. Maybe we

1725
01:33:36.319 --> 01:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>should start killing more people like this, And then what's

1726
01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:42.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen is is that instead of putting people in jail.

1727
01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, trust me, I'd be the first person to

1728
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>sign up a fucking pedophile for this kind of treatment.

1729
01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>But imagine, well not for her.

1730
01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Well see that's the thing, bro, This is supposed to

1731
01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:58.279
<v Speaker 3>be a whole new industry, a whole new thing, and

1732
01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:01.960
<v Speaker 3>they're already saying like, oh, it didn't work as intended.

1733
01:34:02.159 --> 01:34:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Y'all had to strangle her to make sure that she

1734
01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:07.560
<v Speaker 3>died so that y'all could make sure Boss Man was

1735
01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:10.520
<v Speaker 3>happy with the results of this. Because everything was writing

1736
01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:14.840
<v Speaker 3>on this one experiment that y'all were illegally doing. Y'all

1737
01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:18.239
<v Speaker 3>were told in September that if y'all did this, they

1738
01:34:18.279 --> 01:34:20.239
<v Speaker 3>wrote it to you, so you can't say you didn't

1739
01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:23.399
<v Speaker 3>get the memo it. Y'all knew that if y'all went

1740
01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>through with this, y'all would be facing legal charges. And

1741
01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:29.520
<v Speaker 3>you did it anyway, and now come to find out,

1742
01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:32.079
<v Speaker 3>y'all probably all need to be in jail for other

1743
01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:35.319
<v Speaker 3>reasons too, like you know, not just on an accessory

1744
01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:39.520
<v Speaker 3>to self murder, but kind of premeditated and murder in

1745
01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:40.319
<v Speaker 3>the first degree.

1746
01:34:41.279 --> 01:34:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, to do it even though you were told

1747
01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>not to. So either they don't fear the law they

1748
01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:50.520
<v Speaker 2>thought that they were going to get away with it.

1749
01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:52.439
<v Speaker 2>But I can't imagine they thought they were going to

1750
01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>get away with it. I mean, this is something if

1751
01:34:54.600 --> 01:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>it actually went really well, it would be a really

1752
01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:00.079
<v Speaker 2>good marketing point for them. But and also the the

1753
01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>fact that the fact that they had to lie about

1754
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the strangulation, the fact that there was a quote that

1755
01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I think she's still breathing, Philip. It's like, ah, this

1756
01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:13.159
<v Speaker 2>whole thing is just not tell what they were hoping.

1757
01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:16.640
<v Speaker 3>The juice was worth the squeeze for them. This is

1758
01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:21.159
<v Speaker 3>how corporate espionage type things actually happened. Dude. The company

1759
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:24.199
<v Speaker 3>is making enough money to where four people going to

1760
01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:26.479
<v Speaker 3>jail was worth it to them. And it's not like

1761
01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:28.439
<v Speaker 3>they just hung them out to dry. They're gonna swiss

1762
01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:31.560
<v Speaker 3>jail dude, we would call that like a four star

1763
01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:33.960
<v Speaker 3>hotel in America. I'm just gonna be real with you,

1764
01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:37.760
<v Speaker 3>and they're gonna get bailed out. They're gonna get good

1765
01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:44.119
<v Speaker 3>lawyers on this. The company was was quote unquote slated

1766
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:46.399
<v Speaker 3>to be the next big thing as far as this

1767
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:48.840
<v Speaker 3>is concerned, and they were gonna make a truckloads, so

1768
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:50.800
<v Speaker 3>it didn't matter. They could pay some quart costs. Just

1769
01:35:50.840 --> 01:35:55.119
<v Speaker 3>chalk it up to the game. However, now they're showing that,

1770
01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>oh they're money maker, didn't work as expected, and now

1771
01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:05.000
<v Speaker 3>they this whole thing is going to hell in a handbasket. Yeah.

1772
01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I mean, I hope they get what's coming to them,

1773
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like I hope that they all end up

1774
01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:14.680
<v Speaker 2>locked up in jail and it should be labeled as

1775
01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>a homicide that which means that they should Well, if

1776
01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>it's first degree, then you're probably looking at twenty five

1777
01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:21.199
<v Speaker 2>to life, I would imagine, right.

1778
01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how Switzerland's laws gets down. I don't know.

1779
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:28.359
<v Speaker 3>I know that Europe is very lenient on a lot

1780
01:36:28.359 --> 01:36:31.039
<v Speaker 3>of laws and then they're super hard on others. It's like,

1781
01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, this is also New territory.

1782
01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so all right, well, I guess we'll

1783
01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:39.119
<v Speaker 2>see what happens. It's still very recent.

1784
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this just kind of shook out, which is why

1785
01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:44.399
<v Speaker 3>it's like, you know, with everything going on in this

1786
01:36:44.479 --> 01:36:48.279
<v Speaker 3>world right now, I think it's important for us to remember,

1787
01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:51.079
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean that, like, hey, it's gonna

1788
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:54.399
<v Speaker 3>be fine, y'all. It's all gonna be good, I promise you.

1789
01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:58.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, they're already trying to find new ways for

1790
01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:01.439
<v Speaker 3>us to get rid of the box. Do you remember

1791
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:04.079
<v Speaker 3>before COVID, Actually I want to say it was Alex

1792
01:37:04.279 --> 01:37:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Jones that found the big field full of those plastic coffins.

1793
01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for whenever COVID was going down.

1794
01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:17.880
<v Speaker 3>And those were biodegradable coffins that they just left out

1795
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:20.960
<v Speaker 3>in a field uncovered. So the rain has gotten to

1796
01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:24.920
<v Speaker 3>them and they're all just like decomposing now, but neither

1797
01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:28.640
<v Speaker 3>here nor there. When they were stockpiling those coffins, people

1798
01:37:28.680 --> 01:37:32.159
<v Speaker 3>were asking why now they're coming up with new ways

1799
01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:36.279
<v Speaker 3>for assisted suicide. Canada actually legally will let you do

1800
01:37:36.359 --> 01:37:39.680
<v Speaker 3>assisted suicide as well, and online they give you two options.

1801
01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:43.680
<v Speaker 3>They were now talking about bringing the Sarco pod to

1802
01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Canada that was about to make its way to North America.

1803
01:37:48.039 --> 01:37:51.039
<v Speaker 3>That was an American woman that was strangled to death.

1804
01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh it'sh shit, all right. So I just found the

1805
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:58.920
<v Speaker 2>laws about how it breaks down over in Switzerland. So

1806
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>they haven't broken down into separate categories a little bit

1807
01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>different than what we're used to seeing. Well, the first one,

1808
01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:09.520
<v Speaker 2>which is intentional homicide. It says this crime occurs when

1809
01:38:09.560 --> 01:38:12.319
<v Speaker 2>a person intentionally behaves in such a way that causes

1810
01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the death of another person. It is classified as a

1811
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:19.880
<v Speaker 2>felony and is punishable by at least five years imprisonment.

1812
01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Then you have.

1813
01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Then you have.

1814
01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Murder, which they call moord. It says is a lex

1815
01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:34.159
<v Speaker 2>specialist of Article eleven or one to eleven and envisages

1816
01:38:34.439 --> 01:38:37.720
<v Speaker 2>a situation where a person has intentionally caused the death

1817
01:38:37.760 --> 01:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of another person with either a with either particular cruelty

1818
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>or an odious motive or goal, and they can go

1819
01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:52.319
<v Speaker 2>to jail. That's life imprisonment and or by a sentence

1820
01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:55.159
<v Speaker 2>not under ten years. Murder is a felony. Then you

1821
01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:58.479
<v Speaker 2>have manslaughter. But check this one out. Homicide at the

1822
01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:00.880
<v Speaker 2>request of the victim, which I think is what we're

1823
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:04.520
<v Speaker 2>talking about here, could be. It says a person who

1824
01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>upon the request by the victim intentionally causes a mercy killing,

1825
01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:13.840
<v Speaker 2>it says, it's punishable by a term of imprisonment not

1826
01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:17.680
<v Speaker 2>exceeding three years or a fine. So homicide of the

1827
01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>request of a victim is a misdemeanor. So Switzerland suicide, right, yeah.

1828
01:39:24.720 --> 01:39:27.439
<v Speaker 3>And I guess the way you would bypass that is

1829
01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:31.199
<v Speaker 3>if you are a licensed medical professional who is authorized

1830
01:39:31.239 --> 01:39:34.640
<v Speaker 3>to administer the injection or whatever the case would be.

1831
01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:39.399
<v Speaker 3>So like you have the state license to do that.

1832
01:39:39.960 --> 01:39:42.239
<v Speaker 3>But if you're not and you kill somebody because they

1833
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:44.720
<v Speaker 3>ask you to, even if it's a mercy killing, it

1834
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:49.000
<v Speaker 3>could be three years in prison or a fine, depending

1835
01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:51.720
<v Speaker 3>on the situation and the judge wow or the magistrate.

1836
01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:53.039
<v Speaker 3>I guess what they call them. I don't know.

1837
01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the one homicide of the request of the victim.

1838
01:39:57.239 --> 01:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>But then the next one gets into inciting and a

1839
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:04.039
<v Speaker 2>assisting suicide. It says, this one punishes a person who

1840
01:40:04.079 --> 01:40:08.359
<v Speaker 2>intentionally and for an immoral motive, insights or assists a

1841
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>person to commit suicide. The victim's attempt must not necessarily

1842
01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:18.279
<v Speaker 2>be successful in order for Article one fifteen to be invoked.

1843
01:40:19.079 --> 01:40:22.199
<v Speaker 2>It is classified as a felony and punishable by a

1844
01:40:22.319 --> 01:40:26.359
<v Speaker 2>term of imprisonment not exceeding five years or a fine.

1845
01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:29.119
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So like, if you're online bullying somebody to kill

1846
01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:31.920
<v Speaker 3>themselves and all that shit, and then they finally do it, Yeah,

1847
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:32.479
<v Speaker 3>that's a crime.

1848
01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh is that what they mean? Okay? So yeah, I

1849
01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:36.119
<v Speaker 2>guess it would be homicide at the request of the

1850
01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:40.079
<v Speaker 2>victim then, which would give them not exceeding three years

1851
01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:40.960
<v Speaker 2>or a fine.

1852
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.359
<v Speaker 3>But that would be if it was homicide by the

1853
01:40:44.439 --> 01:40:47.279
<v Speaker 3>means agreed upon In all of that, she didn't agree

1854
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:49.119
<v Speaker 3>to be strangled to death, dude.

1855
01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is probably where you're looking at.

1856
01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:57.840
<v Speaker 3>And Ai was already witing to stamp in and be like,

1857
01:40:57.920 --> 01:41:00.600
<v Speaker 3>oh dude, just put an Ai body into that and

1858
01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:03.079
<v Speaker 3>you don't even have to have anybody around her. We

1859
01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:06.199
<v Speaker 3>already got to fix and we need to teach Ai

1860
01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:08.960
<v Speaker 3>how to make people kill themselves. That's something that it

1861
01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:09.720
<v Speaker 3>needs to learn.

1862
01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Sure, dude, listen to some of these like how their

1863
01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:19.239
<v Speaker 2>laws are so different than ours. So manslaughter it says

1864
01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:23.520
<v Speaker 2>it criminalizes the intentional homicide committed by a person in

1865
01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:28.159
<v Speaker 2>an emotional state, which a rational person would not regard

1866
01:41:28.279 --> 01:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>as being overly excessive given the circumstances, which is classified

1867
01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:36.560
<v Speaker 2>as a murder of passion. The law reads where the

1868
01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:39.279
<v Speaker 2>offender acts in a state of extreme emotion that is

1869
01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:43.399
<v Speaker 2>or that is excusable in the circumstances, or in a

1870
01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:48.039
<v Speaker 2>state of profound psychological stress. The penalty is a custodial

1871
01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:53.520
<v Speaker 2>sentence from one to ten years. Okay, a passion murder,

1872
01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:58.039
<v Speaker 2>A murder of passion, you ain't gonna that is, I

1873
01:41:58.079 --> 01:41:59.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know. That's a weird way of putting it.

1874
01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, that that's a legal term to mean, like in

1875
01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:04.359
<v Speaker 3>a frenzy kind of thing.

1876
01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I suppose. But then yeah, so they have the murder,

1877
01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:14.199
<v Speaker 2>which is a sentence not under ten years, and then

1878
01:42:14.239 --> 01:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>you have intentional homicide, which is uh five years at

1879
01:42:19.319 --> 01:42:22.439
<v Speaker 2>least five years imprisonment, which would be intentional homicides. So

1880
01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:25.920
<v Speaker 2>they're looking at what, from our guestimations here, at least

1881
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:30.359
<v Speaker 2>five years. Then if the strangulation is found to be

1882
01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:32.720
<v Speaker 2>by them, if it's not found to be by them,

1883
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:33.479
<v Speaker 2>then they're looking at.

1884
01:42:33.560 --> 01:42:40.479
<v Speaker 3>Least three I would argue it'd be murder, you think,

1885
01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:43.800
<v Speaker 3>So what's the definition for murder?

1886
01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:47.720
<v Speaker 2>It says it's a situation where a person has intentionally

1887
01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>caused the death of another person with either particular cruelty

1888
01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:53.399
<v Speaker 2>or an odious motive or goal.

1889
01:42:54.600 --> 01:42:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I would argue that strangulation is a bit aggressive.

1890
01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she not agree, right, but she had signed up

1891
01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:05.479
<v Speaker 2>to die that day, but.

1892
01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Not by strangulation. She agreed to take a long nap

1893
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:12.640
<v Speaker 3>that she never wakes up from. She didn't agree to

1894
01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:17.600
<v Speaker 3>be fucking choked out by physical means to the point

1895
01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:20.319
<v Speaker 3>that it left bruising. Dude, like, you could have just

1896
01:43:20.399 --> 01:43:23.199
<v Speaker 3>covered her fucking nose and mouth, Like, I don't understand

1897
01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:28.000
<v Speaker 3>why people are so fucking stupid, dude, to suffocate somebody.

1898
01:43:28.279 --> 01:43:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Why would you go for the neck? That makes no

1899
01:43:32.119 --> 01:43:35.800
<v Speaker 3>anatomical fucking sense. You would go for the nose and

1900
01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:39.920
<v Speaker 3>around the mouth. Tadah. I'm not trying to teach anybody

1901
01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:43.640
<v Speaker 3>how to do something bad, but like, holy fuck, what

1902
01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:45.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of movies do people watch? That's how you know,

1903
01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:48.159
<v Speaker 3>with somebody who didn't know what they were doing. The guy,

1904
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:53.279
<v Speaker 3>the only one present, right, was the creator. He had

1905
01:43:53.319 --> 01:43:56.039
<v Speaker 3>never done something like this. He just three D printed

1906
01:43:56.039 --> 01:43:59.560
<v Speaker 3>a fucking killbot. So he did what he saw in

1907
01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:05.520
<v Speaker 3>movies and the the job was accomplished. Yeah, but now

1908
01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:08.039
<v Speaker 3>he's in jail and possibly for murder.

1909
01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a pillow would be the same way too, right, Yes,

1910
01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:14.560
<v Speaker 2>just take a pillow.

1911
01:44:15.279 --> 01:44:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Suffocation it's it's not like a difficult concept. It takes

1912
01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:21.720
<v Speaker 3>a while depending on how well the person can hold

1913
01:44:21.720 --> 01:44:23.479
<v Speaker 3>her breath. That's about it.

1914
01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Suffocation, no breathing. It's all going back to the same

1915
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:30.359
<v Speaker 2>song as why as last resort it makes I don't

1916
01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:33.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't like that it. It weirdly lines up with that,

1917
01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:37.399
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I guess it's a little poetic it is.

1918
01:44:37.560 --> 01:44:39.640
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, that song, yeah, it hits

1919
01:44:39.680 --> 01:44:41.960
<v Speaker 3>a little different. A lot of those songs from when

1920
01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:46.319
<v Speaker 3>we were younger hit different now that we're older. I'm

1921
01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:50.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna be honest with you. Uh scars hmm, that song

1922
01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:52.560
<v Speaker 3>hits different as an adult.

1923
01:44:53.439 --> 01:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Ah. Yeah, I mean all the pretty much all the

1924
01:44:57.199 --> 01:44:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Bark songs too.

1925
01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:01.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, you ain't lion, you know.

1926
01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:03.880
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's just a different, different way of looking

1927
01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:06.520
<v Speaker 2>at it, you know. And I'm I don't know if

1928
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm different for this, But whenever I was a little kid,

1929
01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I really never paid attention to the lyrics. Like I

1930
01:45:13.239 --> 01:45:16.399
<v Speaker 2>remembered the lyrics, but I never like, you know, put

1931
01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:20.039
<v Speaker 2>it into a like a meaningful way. It was just like,

1932
01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:22.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, I said, the lyrics because they matched with

1933
01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the rhythm. You know, I think I more so paid

1934
01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:27.000
<v Speaker 2>attention to the rhythm, and then the lyrics were kind

1935
01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>of secondary.

1936
01:45:29.119 --> 01:45:30.880
<v Speaker 3>It was a little bit of both for me. Don't

1937
01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:35.279
<v Speaker 3>get me wrong. I think I had the lyrics to

1938
01:45:35.439 --> 01:45:37.199
<v Speaker 3>some songs to where I was like, oh my god,

1939
01:45:37.199 --> 01:45:40.560
<v Speaker 3>it was like poetry with music behind it. Then there

1940
01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:42.159
<v Speaker 3>was other songs that it was just for the beat,

1941
01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:44.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, it was just whatever. Yeah,

1942
01:45:44.960 --> 01:45:46.560
<v Speaker 3>they depend on the timing.

1943
01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so probably, But I mean it just

1944
01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:52.319
<v Speaker 2>goes to show the level of hypnosis that goes on

1945
01:45:52.479 --> 01:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>with certain music. You know, it's a little hypnotics.

1946
01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:58.680
<v Speaker 3>But now, Jonathan, as of you and I are conspiracy theorist,

1947
01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's let's hypoth the side as you and I, let's theorize.

1948
01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:06.279
<v Speaker 3>What do you think could be the overarching theme here?

1949
01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:09.199
<v Speaker 3>We got different companies coming out trying to find new

1950
01:46:09.239 --> 01:46:11.800
<v Speaker 3>and innovative ways to get rid of dead people because

1951
01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:15.079
<v Speaker 3>apparently we're running out of places to put them. Then

1952
01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:17.399
<v Speaker 3>we have this company that is trying to launch the

1953
01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:20.159
<v Speaker 3>suicide pod. And you understand that once it's been attempted,

1954
01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:23.079
<v Speaker 3>there will be others. It will be duplicated, it will

1955
01:46:23.079 --> 01:46:25.439
<v Speaker 3>be replicated. The Chinese will come in with something at

1956
01:46:25.479 --> 01:46:29.079
<v Speaker 3>tenth the price. It's gonna be a thing people are

1957
01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:32.399
<v Speaker 3>going to go through. Such about a depression around the world,

1958
01:46:32.479 --> 01:46:34.560
<v Speaker 3>or at least they were thinking that they were about to.

1959
01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:38.159
<v Speaker 3>And again, I'm hoping that we are on the precipice

1960
01:46:38.199 --> 01:46:40.039
<v Speaker 3>of a golden age, not just in America but around

1961
01:46:40.039 --> 01:46:44.439
<v Speaker 3>the world. But this would have been something that would

1962
01:46:44.439 --> 01:46:48.279
<v Speaker 3>have prepped the world for the worst outcome. What are

1963
01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:51.840
<v Speaker 3>your thoughts, bro, What do you think they're trying to push?

1964
01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm looking at this other article right now by

1965
01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Business Standard dot com and it questions did the suicide

1966
01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:03.600
<v Speaker 2>pod mouth function? The strangulation marks raise uh raise alarms

1967
01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:06.239
<v Speaker 2>in the Swiss case. So I think that that's probably

1968
01:47:06.319 --> 01:47:08.800
<v Speaker 2>most likely what happened. I think that there was some

1969
01:47:08.920 --> 01:47:12.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of malfunction that was going on and and they

1970
01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:15.520
<v Speaker 2>were trying to cover their ass. And I mean, if

1971
01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you think about it, they're the ones that are in

1972
01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:20.359
<v Speaker 2>control of the body. Now, I don't know what the

1973
01:47:20.439 --> 01:47:23.359
<v Speaker 2>laws are over there. Did the police have to be present,

1974
01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:28.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, at not necessarily during the process of the

1975
01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the like the fucking you know, loss of breath or whatever.

1976
01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:35.960
<v Speaker 2>But I mean for the body itself. I don't know

1977
01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:38.880
<v Speaker 2>how those laws work like, but I feel like if

1978
01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:41.199
<v Speaker 2>they're the ones that are absolutely in control of the

1979
01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:43.840
<v Speaker 2>body after they after it dies, you just have to

1980
01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:47.800
<v Speaker 2>throw a little makeup or some shit on there. I

1981
01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>guess I don't know, but I think that either way

1982
01:47:50.800 --> 01:47:54.399
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at it, I think that probably malfunction. They

1983
01:47:54.479 --> 01:47:57.800
<v Speaker 2>tried to kill her, you know, and tried to cover

1984
01:47:57.840 --> 01:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>their tracks and got caught.

1985
01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:03.159
<v Speaker 3>But that's the other thing too, Bro. We'll see if

1986
01:48:03.199 --> 01:48:05.399
<v Speaker 3>they actually serve time for this or not, because and

1987
01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:09.840
<v Speaker 3>if the company exists after this, Because this is the

1988
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.920
<v Speaker 3>type of thing that kills a new company. Dude, your

1989
01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:16.319
<v Speaker 3>first time with your first brand new product, and you're

1990
01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:20.439
<v Speaker 3>making all these promises and you have a catastrophic malfunction

1991
01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:22.640
<v Speaker 3>that you had to finish the job with your own

1992
01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:27.720
<v Speaker 3>bare hands. Dude, I'm just saying, like, Okay, it would

1993
01:48:27.800 --> 01:48:30.439
<v Speaker 3>be shocking to me if this company still existed in

1994
01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:34.640
<v Speaker 3>two or three years. But also because we've seen dumb

1995
01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:37.840
<v Speaker 3>shit happen before, dude, watch them bounce back from this,

1996
01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:40.279
<v Speaker 3>watch them come out with a version two point zero,

1997
01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:43.279
<v Speaker 3>and it get mass produced or some wild shit, or

1998
01:48:43.279 --> 01:48:46.600
<v Speaker 3>somebody takes this idea and takes the ball and runs

1999
01:48:46.640 --> 01:48:48.560
<v Speaker 3>with it and creates some other stuff like this is

2000
01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:51.199
<v Speaker 3>I feel like this is the start. This is the

2001
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:53.960
<v Speaker 3>beginning of a snowball rolling downhill that I don't want

2002
01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:55.760
<v Speaker 3>to see get bigger. But I also feel like it

2003
01:48:55.800 --> 01:48:56.520
<v Speaker 3>can't be stopped.

2004
01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like it was probably a little

2005
01:48:59.479 --> 01:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>too soon for a gash chamber. Is that just me?

2006
01:49:04.239 --> 01:49:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, Futurama made a joke about this. As a matter

2007
01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:08.760
<v Speaker 3>of fact, they came out with the suicide pod for

2008
01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:11.399
<v Speaker 3>twenty five cents or whatever, and there was a whole thing.

2009
01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:14.279
<v Speaker 3>I tried watching the YouTube video on it. I depressed,

2010
01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:17.920
<v Speaker 3>like ok to three different times, saying that like, yes,

2011
01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I understand its sensitive material, Yes, I understand it may

2012
01:49:21.039 --> 01:49:24.880
<v Speaker 3>be trigger triggering, Yes I give consent, Yes I want

2013
01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:27.039
<v Speaker 3>to watch it. Anyway, it was like, holy fuck, it's

2014
01:49:27.079 --> 01:49:29.560
<v Speaker 3>a Futurama clip that's like a minute and a half long.

2015
01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's why we're not on YouTube because we

2016
01:49:34.119 --> 01:49:35.439
<v Speaker 2>ain't dealing with that bullshit.

2017
01:49:36.359 --> 01:49:37.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we're shills.

2018
01:49:39.039 --> 01:49:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Where they Yeah anyway, yeah we're not shills. We say

2019
01:49:44.119 --> 01:49:48.079
<v Speaker 2>bad words, we have thoughts and opinions that go against

2020
01:49:48.079 --> 01:49:52.319
<v Speaker 2>the narrative, and we highlight certain things that they probably

2021
01:49:52.359 --> 01:49:56.119
<v Speaker 2>don't want us highlighting. So indeed not sull like.

2022
01:49:57.840 --> 01:50:00.479
<v Speaker 3>All right, what are your thoughts on the whole what

2023
01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:03.760
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to do with human bodies? Because my brain

2024
01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:06.119
<v Speaker 3>goes to a lot of conspiratorial levels on that. What

2025
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:07.960
<v Speaker 3>are your thoughts?

2026
01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Let me think, Well, I think that this is probably

2027
01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:15.439
<v Speaker 2>just another way to because they were mentioning about how

2028
01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it was the green way, you know, it's like more.

2029
01:50:19.479 --> 01:50:22.840
<v Speaker 3>For agricultural right right, And.

2030
01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I think that that that could be

2031
01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:28.520
<v Speaker 2>the start of like some tip of the iceberg kind

2032
01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:32.359
<v Speaker 2>of shit to where you know, well, look, the land

2033
01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:35.359
<v Speaker 2>is is malnourished and the only thing that can bring

2034
01:50:35.399 --> 01:50:38.600
<v Speaker 2>it back to life is human bodies. And so maybe

2035
01:50:38.640 --> 01:50:41.880
<v Speaker 2>we could be getting to a point where this you

2036
01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:44.359
<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily have the option of whether you want to

2037
01:50:44.399 --> 01:50:48.119
<v Speaker 2>be cremated or buried. Maybe maybe it's forcefully laid upon

2038
01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you that you go through a wood chipper, or that

2039
01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:54.800
<v Speaker 2>you get into a decomposition, you know, pod or whatever.

2040
01:50:56.199 --> 01:50:58.079
<v Speaker 2>But honestly, I'm not evenna lie to you, dude. Like

2041
01:50:58.119 --> 01:51:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I've said before, I really could give two shit's less, Like, yes,

2042
01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I I have you know, if it's up to me, yes,

2043
01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:06.880
<v Speaker 2>send me on the Viking sendoff. But to be one

2044
01:51:06.920 --> 01:51:09.359
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent honest, do whatever the fuck you want to

2045
01:51:09.399 --> 01:51:10.439
<v Speaker 2>my body whenever I'm done.

2046
01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. At one point in time, I thought like being

2047
01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:17.960
<v Speaker 3>buried at Arlington would be dope. But then I thought

2048
01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:19.920
<v Speaker 3>about it, and I'm like, nah, there's other dudes that

2049
01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:23.119
<v Speaker 3>would much rather deserve a spot there than me, you

2050
01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:25.000
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Guys that did like crazy shit

2051
01:51:25.079 --> 01:51:27.560
<v Speaker 3>with their careers, not a shit bag like my job was,

2052
01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:27.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's a military thing. Arlington.

2054
01:51:30.359 --> 01:51:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Arlington National Cemeteries for you know, people who served,

2055
01:51:34.039 --> 01:51:36.920
<v Speaker 3>either died overseas or died served honorably. They get a

2056
01:51:36.920 --> 01:51:39.439
<v Speaker 3>spot there as well. I could get buried there, but

2057
01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:41.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean they're running out of spots. There's only so

2058
01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:45.920
<v Speaker 3>much land, And there's other dudes that like serve that

2059
01:51:46.039 --> 01:51:49.079
<v Speaker 3>I believe deserve a spot there, way above me, you know.

2060
01:51:50.600 --> 01:51:55.680
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's I marched over a thousand funerals, dude, Damn. Yeah. Literally,

2061
01:51:55.720 --> 01:51:59.000
<v Speaker 3>I was a part of over one thousand funerals at Arlington.

2062
01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>In Texas.

2063
01:52:02.399 --> 01:52:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Arlington National Cemetery in Washington, d C.

2064
01:52:05.159 --> 01:52:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, yeah, like.

2065
01:52:07.680 --> 01:52:10.560
<v Speaker 3>The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier where JFK's eternal flame

2066
01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:11.960
<v Speaker 3>is at Arlington.

2067
01:52:13.319 --> 01:52:15.199
<v Speaker 2>You know so much more about that kind of stuff

2068
01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:17.359
<v Speaker 2>than I do. I was assuming that we were talking

2069
01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>about Arlington, Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>No, hold on you. Have you ever seen a picture

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01:52:21.479 --> 01:52:22.760
<v Speaker 3>of Arlington National Cemetery.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I have.

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01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like a bunch of white tombstones, like for Miles.

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01:52:28.119 --> 01:52:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You always see it in

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01:52:30.319 --> 01:52:33.600
<v Speaker 2>the movies. And what's the movie I'm thinking of that

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01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I saw it in.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There's a bunch. There's a bunch you're

2078
01:52:36.479 --> 01:52:39.000
<v Speaker 3>probably thinking of. It's it's popular in a lot. But yeah,

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01:52:39.039 --> 01:52:42.000
<v Speaker 3>that's that's something that like at one point I thought

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01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.840
<v Speaker 3>would be cool, but then I was like, nah, like whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>So then I have there's a cemetery on the other

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01:52:48.680 --> 01:52:51.039
<v Speaker 3>side of the river where my family has traditionally been

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01:52:51.439 --> 01:52:54.479
<v Speaker 3>buried for shit, going on one hundred and fifty years now,

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01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:58.800
<v Speaker 3>and that would be cool, except that's like the other

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01:52:58.880 --> 01:53:00.600
<v Speaker 3>side of my family than I don't don't really know.

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01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:04.640
<v Speaker 3>That's like second, third, fourth cousins and shit. So it's whatever.

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01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:07.720
<v Speaker 3>Then I thought about them, like cremation, like either a

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01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:10.399
<v Speaker 3>I could buy land and like start my own family plot,

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01:53:10.479 --> 01:53:14.319
<v Speaker 3>which is cool. That would be cool. But then it's like,

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01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, is it that that seems like now I

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01:53:17.880 --> 01:53:21.279
<v Speaker 3>have to like commit upkeep to generations of people and

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01:53:21.319 --> 01:53:24.439
<v Speaker 3>all of this, and like, dude, at that point, I

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01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:27.439
<v Speaker 3>don't care. I just don't care. Just let's do cremation

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01:53:27.600 --> 01:53:29.279
<v Speaker 3>for myself. That was my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's more for the sentimental reasons, you know,

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01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:36.079
<v Speaker 2>than anything else. Like, do I think that if you

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01:53:36.079 --> 01:53:38.600
<v Speaker 2>get buried next to a person in a cemetery that

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<v Speaker 2>your soul and their soul is going to be connected

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<v Speaker 2>in the afterlife?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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01:53:44.680 --> 01:53:48.600
<v Speaker 3>I I get why people want to do that and

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01:53:48.640 --> 01:53:50.560
<v Speaker 3>have that peace of mind that when they die they'll

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01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:52.880
<v Speaker 3>be with their loved one, and like whatever, I don't

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01:53:52.880 --> 01:53:55.279
<v Speaker 3>think it works that way. But I'm also not going

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01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:57.399
<v Speaker 3>to get in the way of somebody having that peace

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01:53:57.479 --> 01:53:59.000
<v Speaker 3>while they're alive, you know what I mean.

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01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:04.159
<v Speaker 2>That's fine their own at that point. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:54:04.199 --> 01:54:04.720
<v Speaker 2>like I said, just.

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01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Let me agree that suicide is not the way.

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01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:14.520
<v Speaker 2>No, that's probably the worst way. Yeah, I mean, really,

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<v Speaker 2>by any any form of death. I mean that's I mean,

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01:54:17.640 --> 01:54:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I've heard you know, and me and Sean we always

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01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:23.800
<v Speaker 2>talk about those near death experiences and stuff, and some

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01:54:23.880 --> 01:54:27.159
<v Speaker 2>of them are on suicides. And what they say is

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01:54:27.199 --> 01:54:30.600
<v Speaker 2>like these people that they're they're getting ready to commit suicide.

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01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they were the ones that were in the garage

2119
01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:36.159
<v Speaker 2>with the gas going and shit like that, and they

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01:54:36.239 --> 01:54:39.479
<v Speaker 2>say that they're whenever they because as soon as you

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01:54:39.600 --> 01:54:42.039
<v Speaker 2>die or as soon as you're about to die or whatever.

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01:54:42.079 --> 01:54:45.279
<v Speaker 2>In these near death experiences, you know, you have a

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01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:47.840
<v Speaker 2>little bit of forethought of like oh my god, oh

2124
01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:49.399
<v Speaker 2>my god, oh my god, I can't believe I just

2125
01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:52.079
<v Speaker 2>did that. Like almost every single one of them, they

2126
01:54:52.279 --> 01:54:55.079
<v Speaker 2>immediately regret it as soon as they do it, like

2127
01:54:55.119 --> 01:54:58.600
<v Speaker 2>in the near death experiences anyway, and they're you know it,

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01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:03.560
<v Speaker 2>because whether you believe in fate or destiny or some

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01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:05.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of plan that was laid out as to why

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01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:09.439
<v Speaker 2>you're here or whatever, most people see that that is

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01:55:09.640 --> 01:55:13.359
<v Speaker 2>clearly what's going on after you die if you take

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01:55:13.399 --> 01:55:18.119
<v Speaker 2>your life too soon, because it's one hundred percent was

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01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:20.560
<v Speaker 2>not in the cards for you to ever commit suicide

2134
01:55:21.079 --> 01:55:24.199
<v Speaker 2>like that is never the thing that you sign up

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01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:26.520
<v Speaker 2>for before you come into this life, I don't think.

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01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:31.960
<v Speaker 3>And it's a permanent solution for a temporary problem anyway

2137
01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:36.039
<v Speaker 3>you slice it right. Yeah, I mean, look, I understand

2138
01:55:36.119 --> 01:55:40.000
<v Speaker 3>the ethical conversation about somebody who is suffering from a

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01:55:40.159 --> 01:55:42.560
<v Speaker 3>very painful cancer that is going to kill them and

2140
01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:45.920
<v Speaker 3>they're just trying to go out on their terms. Okay, Look,

2141
01:55:46.039 --> 01:55:49.560
<v Speaker 3>I understand that, and I have sympathy for that. Yes,

2142
01:55:49.720 --> 01:55:52.079
<v Speaker 3>I may disagree with it for my reasons, but it's

2143
01:55:52.079 --> 01:55:53.800
<v Speaker 3>also one of those things that like if I was

2144
01:55:53.800 --> 01:55:55.680
<v Speaker 3>to walk a mile in their shoes, maybe I'd had

2145
01:55:55.680 --> 01:55:58.359
<v Speaker 3>the same type of energy. Look, I don't know, okay,

2146
01:55:59.279 --> 01:56:02.079
<v Speaker 3>but I dis agree with this being a thing, the

2147
01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:05.399
<v Speaker 3>suicide pod, and they're trying to make it three D

2148
01:56:05.479 --> 01:56:08.279
<v Speaker 3>printable and readily available. You could download it right now

2149
01:56:08.319 --> 01:56:11.399
<v Speaker 3>and just make it happen. But ba bub bro, what

2150
01:56:12.399 --> 01:56:15.560
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to make it readily available around the world

2151
01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:18.920
<v Speaker 3>for you to just off yourself at your choosing. All

2152
01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:21.319
<v Speaker 3>you need is some liquid nitrogen, which is not hard

2153
01:56:21.399 --> 01:56:24.640
<v Speaker 3>or illegal to get at all. So yeah, they're just

2154
01:56:24.680 --> 01:56:26.279
<v Speaker 3>trying to make it easy. And then what are they

2155
01:56:26.279 --> 01:56:28.079
<v Speaker 3>gonna do with all these bodies? What are they gonna

2156
01:56:28.079 --> 01:56:30.079
<v Speaker 3>do with there's a couple of options. They know they

2157
01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:35.039
<v Speaker 3>can't bury them, but they could mulch them. They could,

2158
01:56:35.359 --> 01:56:37.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't know. I think that actually might

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01:56:37.520 --> 01:56:38.319
<v Speaker 3>become the new thing.

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01:56:39.560 --> 01:56:41.399
<v Speaker 2>Eh, there's a chance. I think that a lot of

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01:56:41.399 --> 01:56:44.199
<v Speaker 2>people are gonna be a lot more traditional and in

2162
01:56:44.239 --> 01:56:47.920
<v Speaker 2>their ways, like, yeah, okay, yes, I want the Viking sendoff.

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01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Do I believe that my family is actually gonna let

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01:56:50.239 --> 01:56:52.720
<v Speaker 2>me have that? Probably not, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I told them to do that, by the way, and

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01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:56.960
<v Speaker 3>if they don't, I'm gonna be I'm gonna haunt them.

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01:56:57.159 --> 01:56:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm a bullshit. I'm gonna tackle them piggies when you

2168
01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:07.000
<v Speaker 2>sleeping as a ghost. Hey you right, yeah, dude. But anyway, Jacob,

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01:57:07.279 --> 01:57:10.239
<v Speaker 2>let them uh, let them hear the knife hands bro.

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<v Speaker 3>If you haven't already, dear cult members, please at this time,

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