Speaker 1: Oh, Fred of fsor.
Speaker 2: NOD, Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the
Speaker 2: Cult of Conspiracy, and my name's Jonathan.
Speaker 3: I'm Jacob.
Speaker 2: Jacob wanted to bring up the idea of suicide PAWD.
Speaker 2: This ought to be interesting, sir.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just say, everybody's out there, you know, everybody listening. Listen,
Speaker 3: the election's over, okay, And I understand that a little
Speaker 3: less than half of the country is really upset right now,
Speaker 3: and all right, cool, And suicides allegedly or allegedly suicides do,
Speaker 3: in fact tend to spike around big events like that,
Speaker 3: a big election, the most important election America's ever had.
Speaker 3: I could understand if they did take a uptick. And
Speaker 3: I hope they don't. I really really hope they don't.
Speaker 3: But I mean, especially around the holiday season. That's another
Speaker 3: time when they go up on the uptick. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: But the suicide pod, we've talked about it on the
Speaker 3: show before. I had never really really really looked at it.
Speaker 3: I didn't know there was a country that already did it.
Speaker 3: And I knew there was one girl a couple of
Speaker 3: year girl, excuse me, lady, A woman a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago. That was the first patient and all of that.
Speaker 3: But like before we talk about her, before we talk
Speaker 3: about the suicide pods, and before we talk about the
Speaker 3: controversy around her, because man, there's new information coming out
Speaker 3: that I just stumbled upon, like, for instance, the fact
Speaker 3: that she had strangulation marks around her neck. How did
Speaker 3: she get hand marks around her neck if she was
Speaker 3: in a suicide pod? But don't worry, we will be
Speaker 3: getting there. But first things first. You know, I understand
Speaker 3: that everybody has their own way that they'd like to
Speaker 3: go out right, everybody has, at least hopefully everybody has
Speaker 3: a plan of what would happen to your remains, to
Speaker 3: your body? Would you want to be cremated? Would you
Speaker 3: want to be buried? Do you know what you want
Speaker 3: to do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I want I want the Viking send off?
Speaker 3: Bro. Yeah, yeah, I think that actually just got made
Speaker 3: legal in this state.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Put me in a put me in a wooden boat,
Speaker 2: sail me out, you know, about one hundred yards, and
Speaker 2: strike me with a fiery arrow. Let me just be
Speaker 2: fish food.
Speaker 3: See I to do that same thing, but maybe a
Speaker 3: wooden piro fill it a gasoline, make it a Cajun
Speaker 3: Viking send off. Somebody hit me with that compound bow
Speaker 3: right as it should be done, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: why not? Why not? And if it's like oh because
Speaker 3: uh what if that body doesn't burn all the way
Speaker 3: and it washes somewhere else and it's a whole okay,
Speaker 3: then do it and like my family pond or some
Speaker 3: shit like, it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2: My thing is is that if I mean, I know
Speaker 2: we we kind of are at odds on the whole
Speaker 2: reincarnation thing, but not even that, but just the cycle
Speaker 2: of life itself, right, Like, yeah, I feel like if
Speaker 2: you burn yourself to ash, what are you contributing to
Speaker 2: the cycle of life? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: you're not feeding any any bugs or any animals or
Speaker 2: any fish.
Speaker 3: Or anything like that. That ash is nutrients for the
Speaker 3: plant life? Oh is it? Oh? Yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 3: how you do? Uh? Like you ever seen control burnings
Speaker 3: of fields? Yeah, that's so that it puts the nitrates
Speaker 3: back into the soil that uh ash from the fire.
Speaker 3: They will till it up up and it revitalizes the
Speaker 3: soil itself.
Speaker 2: Bro Okay, I'll be soil food. I guess that's okay too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the circle of life that goes into the plants,
Speaker 3: the plant goes into the animals. And that's yeah, bro,
Speaker 3: all the way of perpetuating, as the Bible says, ashes
Speaker 3: to ashes and dust to dust. So whether you go
Speaker 3: into the ground in a box and you'll get decomposed
Speaker 3: back into the dirt, or whether you go into the
Speaker 3: ash form and you get decomposed back into the dirt.
Speaker 3: This carbon based flesh suit is.
Speaker 2: Only that, you know, I mean to be honest, Like
Speaker 2: if a Viking sendoff is too expensive, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know what my situation is going to be wheneverm
Speaker 2: whatever age that may be, Dump me in a swamp
Speaker 2: and make me gator food. Dude, I really don't care
Speaker 2: about what happens to my body whenever I die.
Speaker 3: Well, so looking at this whole suicide pod thing, which
Speaker 3: further record, I'm with you. I want to do the
Speaker 3: Viking burial. For a long time it was illegal to
Speaker 3: do something like that in this state. Just found out
Speaker 3: it's legal. It's either that or the firework thing. And
Speaker 3: I told you about that before. That company they'll put
Speaker 3: your ashes in fireworks also tight. It is pretty tight.
Speaker 3: And I found out that they're there's another company that
Speaker 3: will make those like shape charges to where like they'll
Speaker 3: go up in the air and make shapes and designs
Speaker 3: and patterns and shit. And I have a list of
Speaker 3: who is getting what shape, and it will be like
Speaker 3: pretty much my final word to them. Some will be kind,
Speaker 3: some will not. Everybody deserves to have that last that
Speaker 3: last little ha.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Also, one of them's getting shot over DC. It is
Speaker 3: in fact going to be a giant green dick. It
Speaker 3: will be a green weenie. That's a whole thing either
Speaker 3: way either way. So I started looking around because I
Speaker 3: know that I have friends of mine that have taken
Speaker 3: like their family members ashes and they've turned into diamonds,
Speaker 3: they've turned into jewelry. I know my grandmother keeps a
Speaker 3: little a little glass vial of one of you know,
Speaker 3: one of her ex husband's ashes, And my grandmother, I
Speaker 3: love it or death, but she's wild, you know. But
Speaker 3: I actually have a buddy of mine that I've heard
Speaker 3: with and he's no longer with us. He also it
Speaker 3: was an accidental OD but it was a suicide. Nonetheless,
Speaker 3: his mom sent me it was a shellcasing with some
Speaker 3: of his ashes in it, which I don't know for
Speaker 3: but like it was dope. I love to death. Yeah, God,
Speaker 3: I was there the day he broke his back. As
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, it was it was actually kind
Speaker 3: of crazy how that all played out. But uh, anyway, anyway,
Speaker 3: so I started looking at what are the new trending
Speaker 3: ways of how people want to dispose of their bodies
Speaker 3: and all these things, because looking at the suicide pod,
Speaker 3: it doesn't like it doesn't like, you know, mince meet
Speaker 3: them or or char them. It just kind of they
Speaker 3: go to sleep. They go sleep.
Speaker 2: That's what is it? An injection?
Speaker 3: Uh well for the sleep pod that I'm talking about,
Speaker 3: the Sarco one anyway, it's actually like they just kind
Speaker 3: of fill it with inert air until you like slowly
Speaker 3: go to sleep, kind of like the whole uh park
Speaker 3: your car in the garage at the window cracked and
Speaker 3: just run the exhaust until you pass out.
Speaker 2: Oh so you're you're fading in your sleep. Then it's
Speaker 2: not like suffocating.
Speaker 3: No, it's peaceful. It's very peaceful. You pretty much just
Speaker 3: go to sleep and never wake up. But all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: before we do that, before we do that, this one
Speaker 3: was a different one for me. Bro I need to
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Speaker 3: fucking great. Yes, it is all right. So now let's
Speaker 3: go ahead and read health news. Floor Rida. Okay, that
Speaker 3: flow rider gotta speak on it. The ultimate green burial,
Speaker 3: human composting lets you replenish the earth after death. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is for anybody who's just listening. It's pretty much
Speaker 3: a steel coffin. They got. They got the pall bear
Speaker 3: things on the sides, dude, and some sort of a
Speaker 3: death strow with some sort of a bush of lavender
Speaker 3: on him, and they're getting ready to make that dude.
Speaker 3: You know, mulch, I suppose let's go ahead and read
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: When Dennis Cunningham was diagnosed with terminal cancer, he wanted
Speaker 2: his death to reflect the values that he lived by.
Speaker 2: As a civil rights lawyer, Cunningham defended the Black panthers,
Speaker 2: the AIDS protesters, and later environmental activists from Earth First.
Speaker 2: He was a profound environment in environmentalist, said his son Joe.
Speaker 2: In his spare time, Cunningham built sculptures out of driftwood,
Speaker 2: bottle caps, and rusted car parts in his backyard studio
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. He wanted his body to be part
Speaker 2: of the same cycle of decay and regeneration. He instructed
Speaker 2: his kids to have him composted after he died. It
Speaker 2: was totally in keeping with who he was, to not
Speaker 2: make waste, but to use waste, said his daughter to Cunningham.
Speaker 2: He being wait to Cunningham, being turned into soil and
Speaker 2: spread onto the forest floor to fertilize new trees was
Speaker 2: much more appealing than being burned to ash or entombed
Speaker 2: in a concrete vault underground. A growing number of Americans
Speaker 2: are likewise eager to see more environmentally friendly alternatives to
Speaker 2: conventional burial and cremation. Human composting is the latest option,
Speaker 2: but not everywhere or even in most states. When Cunningham
Speaker 2: died on March fifth, twenty twenty two, at his son's
Speaker 2: house in La it wasn't an option. There's it's literally
Speaker 2: illegal to compost a body in the state of California,
Speaker 2: said his son. We had to transport his body from
Speaker 2: California to Washington to do this. Seven states of legalized
Speaker 2: human composting to date, including Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, Vermont,
Speaker 2: and New York. It took California lawmakers three tries to
Speaker 2: pass a law to do the same, but it won't
Speaker 2: take effect until twenty twenty seven. Opposition has mainly come
Speaker 2: from religious institutions that consider human composting undignified, in which
Speaker 2: and which highlight the scarcity of research proving the practice
Speaker 2: is safe and environmentally beneficial. Lawmakers have championed the legislation, nonetheless,
Speaker 2: arguing that a natural process of decomposition is inherently better
Speaker 2: than burning fossil fuels for cremation, harvesting rainforest mahogany to
Speaker 2: make coffins, or spraying pesticides across cemetery lawns.
Speaker 3: All right, so right off the top, I don't see
Speaker 3: a religious issue with that being what someone does with
Speaker 3: their body. I could see how certain religious people would
Speaker 3: take issue with that. Fine, fine, But like I don't.
Speaker 2: Really, I don't know if I understand what is going
Speaker 2: on here. You're just trying to be made into compass.
Speaker 2: So what are you mulched and then just thrown out
Speaker 2: into the yard.
Speaker 3: Pretty much mulched and mixed with other dirt and top soil.
Speaker 3: And then bagged up and then spread as you see fit.
Speaker 2: I don't see how that is. I mean, so the
Speaker 2: Bible says only you can be buried or cremated. Is
Speaker 2: that what the argument is?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Okay? And you know what this is another one where
Speaker 3: it just said religious, it didn't say which religion. Doesn't
Speaker 3: necessarily mean it was Christian. But let's be honest. It
Speaker 3: was in America, so probably more than likely Christian. But okay,
Speaker 3: it depends on which denomination and also which type of
Speaker 3: interpretation you're reading within it. Perfect example, I got two
Speaker 3: Catholics that I know very personally. One of them thinks
Speaker 3: your soul leaves your body, and when you get to heaven,
Speaker 3: you don't have your body. It doesn't look like you.
Speaker 3: It's your soul is kind of a you know, ectoplasm
Speaker 3: style interdimensional figure. It's not. This isn't what you'll look
Speaker 3: like when standing before God. He believes that right. The
Speaker 3: other and he wants to be cremated by the way
Speaker 3: that just throwing it out. The other says, if I
Speaker 3: get cremated, why would I make it harder for God
Speaker 3: to put me back together when I stand before him?
Speaker 2: Oh my God, and.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, what do you mean, Well, like, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll look like us when we get there. I'm like,
Speaker 3: where does it say that. He's like, oh, no, it's
Speaker 3: in there. But blah blah blah, both of them reading
Speaker 3: from the same Catholic Bible, having very different thoughts about
Speaker 3: what happens to you after you die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I don't know. I kind of just
Speaker 2: figured that maybe we would be like a ghost body
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: I don't believe we'll have bodies. But again, there's so
Speaker 3: many different things to think about on this. But and
Speaker 3: when I talk to this guy, I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: so you think that when you die, God's gonna take
Speaker 3: that body with you? And like, if you die when
Speaker 3: you're eighty, you get to Heaven at eighty, If you
Speaker 3: die at twelve, you go to you know, your body
Speaker 3: is a twelve year old, like you all of that.
Speaker 3: And so if somebody gets creamated, do you think God
Speaker 3: is going to like atomically piece that person back together
Speaker 3: so he can have a conversation with them? He's like,
Speaker 3: well yeah, of course. I'm like, oh, so okay.
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's actually an interesting conversation as far
Speaker 2: as what are being our soul or whatever looks like
Speaker 2: whenever we die. I mean, I know it's a little
Speaker 2: off topic as to what we're talking about, but so you.
Speaker 3: Were talking about death in general, so it's in the
Speaker 3: same ballpark now.
Speaker 2: So I mean, when whenever we die, you think we
Speaker 2: go up as like just energy form that is translucent
Speaker 2: and you can't see anything or what.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm gonna be very very honest with
Speaker 3: you and I we could hype hypothetical and dream on
Speaker 3: this topic for the end of time, and I think
Speaker 3: it's worth doing for sure. I don't know if it
Speaker 3: is like a ectoplasm light force. I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's literally a wind vapor and like you're out there
Speaker 3: just floating through the air vent. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you snap consciousness to a different dimension. There's so many
Speaker 3: ways that you could split that in all of this,
Speaker 3: I think all are equally possible. But this, this skin, suit,
Speaker 3: this beard, this these nails, this skin, all of that
Speaker 3: that's gone that belongs to the earth. You know, what
Speaker 3: made from this earth, and it belongs to the earth.
Speaker 2: What's interesting is is now that I think about it,
Speaker 2: all right, well, essentially, like if you're of the of
Speaker 2: the peace of mind that I guess. I think we
Speaker 2: both agree on this because and this is oftentimes the
Speaker 2: argument that is brought up for abortion. But you know
Speaker 2: that as soon as the as soon as the sperm
Speaker 2: attaches to the there's a little jolt of light.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's probably what we are when we die,
Speaker 3: you know. I think it's something very similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Yeah, we're just a little piece
Speaker 2: of light.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. What is the soul? What consists
Speaker 3: of our spirit? I you know, the theories can go
Speaker 3: on and on for forever, but or some people believe
Speaker 3: the energy of some type.
Speaker 2: Yes, sure, yeah I think so. But then you got
Speaker 2: the fucking people that just like and I don't mean
Speaker 2: to hate on people like this. I mean, you're, you know,
Speaker 2: welcome to your own belief or whatever, but some people
Speaker 2: just believe it's just dark and there's nothingness and there
Speaker 2: it's not that there isn't it's not that there's nothingness,
Speaker 2: it's that the lights are totally out and there is
Speaker 2: no more after this, which that's got to be a
Speaker 2: shitty way to think about what's happening after this life, dude.
Speaker 3: It's very nihilistic, and some people find their peace in nihilism.
Speaker 3: I can't like the the very thought of it goes
Speaker 3: against my logic, Like I it doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just makes this whole existence pointless.
Speaker 3: Like even take away religion, take away philosophy, take away whatever,
Speaker 3: whether you think that this is all by accident but
Speaker 3: from a divine creator, all a fucking simulation and we're
Speaker 3: in some Aliens video game, Like what okay, fine take
Speaker 3: it to whatever level you want for all of this
Speaker 3: to happen, and then for that to just be for
Speaker 3: nothing goes against all of the laws of existence, Like
Speaker 3: that makes no sense there, It's not if there's something
Speaker 3: on the other side. It's literally a matter of what's
Speaker 3: on the other side. Yeah, I think that's all that
Speaker 3: can be.
Speaker 2: The probability that we exist after death, to me is
Speaker 2: like I can't even say that it's less than one
Speaker 2: hundred percent, you know what I'm saying, Like that's how
Speaker 2: my mind works, Like there's there is no way that
Speaker 2: this is all that it is.
Speaker 3: Right exactly, And so with that in mind, what somebody
Speaker 3: wants to do with their body, right, this flesh suit,
Speaker 3: this corpse once we die, this cadaver personally, who the
Speaker 3: fuck cares. I don't care. I think some people take
Speaker 3: it to some weird levels. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 3: turning yourself into mulch, Like you could have just gotten
Speaker 3: cremated and scattered your ashes and it would have done
Speaker 3: the exact same fucking thing, but more direct injection into
Speaker 3: nature's nutrients box rather than but whatever, whatever, tomato tomato. Honestly,
Speaker 3: on this one, it's going back into the top soil
Speaker 3: through method A or method B. So who the fuck cares, right,
Speaker 3: But that's not what makes it weird to me. There
Speaker 3: is also reports of things going on in certain Asian
Speaker 3: countries not going to drop names where they have an
Speaker 3: insane amount of dead to get rid of, so they
Speaker 3: started getting creative. Now, there were some reports of some
Speaker 3: Soylent green type situations. They were mulching up their dead
Speaker 3: and turning it into some sort of protein and selling
Speaker 3: it back to their population. Uh that was I don't
Speaker 3: believe that to be a true thing. Yes, certain things
Speaker 3: for survival, right, like if a family is not like,
Speaker 3: seriously they're starving and you know, Donner party type shit.
Speaker 3: Sure I could understand that in the diarist of circumstances.
Speaker 2: No, dude, I'm starving to death before before I will
Speaker 2: starve to death happily before I eat a human bro Like,
Speaker 2: there's just I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I would do it. I'm saying I
Speaker 3: would understand why somebody in a complete survival situation where
Speaker 3: they're like practically on the verge of being feral, would
Speaker 3: go to that level to see tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I get it right, right, But then you got to
Speaker 2: ask yourself, like, you know, what part are you gonna eat?
Speaker 2: It reminds me of it reminds me of the water
Speaker 2: Boy whenever Coach Klimb, mister Coach klin he asked Mama.
Speaker 2: He was like, what part of the snake do you
Speaker 2: think I'm about to eat? She goes, well, technically snakes
Speaker 2: don't really have parts, but if I had to guess,
Speaker 2: I would say his knee, which.
Speaker 3: Is actually pretty accurate when you think about it. Either,
Speaker 3: anywhere you cut up into a snake, you're getting the knee.
Speaker 3: But also like, there's no snake big enough to make
Speaker 3: steaks out of like that, Like, holy fucking maybe an
Speaker 3: Anda Khana has backstraps big enough to slice like that.
Speaker 3: But that was yeah, for the principle of the movie
Speaker 3: that was fucking hilarious. It was. But all right, but
Speaker 3: how the hell do we get on that topic. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm so lor no, but yeah, to that point,
Speaker 3: you would eat the you go off the where the
Speaker 3: most meat is so ass and thighs usually would be
Speaker 3: where people start. There's so many reports of people cannibalizing
Speaker 3: on naval ships from like back in the day, like
Speaker 3: the Moby Dick era, the East India Trading Company, and
Speaker 3: like that was just kind of a part of it.
Speaker 3: It was like expect it almost like if shit go sideways,
Speaker 3: like we're gonna eat each other, and that's just what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: No, no way, yeah, no, I know, I'm aware that
Speaker 2: it was probably happening, but fuck that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, fuck that sailor's life. I know, the whole
Speaker 3: pirate's life seems super enticing, but a I get seasick,
Speaker 3: and b yo, there is a greater than zero percent
Speaker 3: chance that cannibalism is on the agenda every time you
Speaker 3: leave port. Yo, I'm fucking good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no way. Although they do say it tastes
Speaker 2: like a pig, yeah, because we eat the same trash.
Speaker 3: We Yeah, pigs and humans have the closest flesh. I
Speaker 3: think there's actually reasons why Abrahamic law prevents us from eating.
Speaker 2: Them hmm or two related.
Speaker 3: I think there's something to it. I don't know to
Speaker 3: what level, but like then you learned that people back
Speaker 3: in the day didn't know how to properly cure meat,
Speaker 3: and pork is one of those things that will fuck
Speaker 3: you up. And it was like, oh, for hygiene reasons,
Speaker 3: it makes sense. But anyway, neither here nor there. So
Speaker 3: back to the point, somebody wants to maltz their body, fine,
Speaker 3: it's whatever. But those countries that were molting those bodies,
Speaker 3: all those dead, come to find out they were mulching them,
Speaker 3: and they were trying to fertilize fields with them, and
Speaker 3: they tried passing it off that it was just soil
Speaker 3: again certain Southeast Asian countries. Now then you look at
Speaker 3: what states that they just named have already been doing this. Washington, Oregon,
Speaker 3: California's pushing the legislation. Why would these states be making
Speaker 3: it okay to turn our dead into mulch specifically, and
Speaker 3: like they're going as far as to try to make
Speaker 3: this a law.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that you got to put it
Speaker 2: in different terms to really think about how crazy it is,
Speaker 2: because I certainly wouldn't want to do that, like maulch
Speaker 2: in your body. That's I know that we're not attached
Speaker 2: to it, but I don't know it. Yeah, it just
Speaker 2: seems really weird. I mean, especially with knowing that you know,
Speaker 2: whenever you turn to ash it does basically the same thing.
Speaker 2: But think about it like this, like if you put
Speaker 2: your dog through a wood chipper, that would be inhumane,
Speaker 2: Like if it's dead, right, Like you would look at
Speaker 2: that like that is completely a.
Speaker 3: Dead dog through a wood chipper.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's essentially what they're doing.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think i've ever it is it is,
Speaker 3: You're correct, I don't think I've ever actually thought of that.
Speaker 3: That mental image has never crossed my head before you
Speaker 3: Why would a Marine Corps fucked up days of dark humor?
Speaker 3: Like wow, throwing a dead dog into a wood chipper?
Speaker 3: That's that's like a cards against Humanity card right there,
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 2: But it's almost like you wouldn't you would look at
Speaker 2: that as inhumane even after the dog as has passed,
Speaker 2: maybe it's even been a couple of days whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I would see it as twisted.
Speaker 2: You would never do exactly twisted. And so why are
Speaker 2: humans different now if we're all just fucking meat suits?
Speaker 3: So apparently they're trying to do it, dude, And then
Speaker 3: with that a new kind of funeral business.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting. Cunningham ended up at Recomposts, a human composting
Speaker 2: facility in Seattle. Founder and CEO Katrina Spade said about
Speaker 2: fifteen percent of their clients are shipped from California and
Speaker 2: another fourteen percent from other states. Damn, most of their
Speaker 2: business coming from California. Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to fucking live there, dude.
Speaker 2: We pick them up at sea tax, she said, referring
Speaker 2: to Seattle Tacoma International Airport. Walking into the lobby of
Speaker 2: recompost feels like walking into a spa. Meditation music whispers
Speaker 2: from hidden speakers, Living art tapestries decorate the walls. Earthy
Speaker 2: green and yellow shades cover the windows. When the light
Speaker 2: comes through, we hope it reminds you of the forced light,
Speaker 2: Spade said, while walking through the gathering Space, a ceremonial
Speaker 2: room where families can hold services in rituals for their
Speaker 2: loved ones.
Speaker 3: So you could already tell that it's getting a certain vibe, right,
Speaker 3: Like I'm not doing that. I didn't, but you're already
Speaker 3: picturing it. Right.
Speaker 2: This sounds like the most California shit I've ever heard
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 3: Like, bro, okay, this is These are the people making
Speaker 3: the woo woo community look bad. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, It's like that's why you know you
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: You can't look at all the spiritual and all the
Speaker 2: woo woo people and group us together. I don't want
Speaker 2: to be associated with these kind of people, Like, that's
Speaker 2: not me. The same thing with the Satanists. Don't group
Speaker 2: me in with that. That's not me.
Speaker 3: For the longest time, I grouped you in with this
Speaker 3: type of woo woo. I'm so sorry. There was a
Speaker 3: good while there. It's been years. It's been years since
Speaker 3: I me and you had a good understanding of where
Speaker 3: we're actually at and like we're good. You and me
Speaker 3: are straight up on some things. But like for a
Speaker 3: good while there, I was like, bro, how hippie are you? Like,
Speaker 3: especially in the early days the first year of this
Speaker 3: pod for sure, and like, dude, I'm telling you, I've
Speaker 3: seen the light the wo woo community, quote unquote, the
Speaker 3: spiritual commun unity, the metaphysical community. Good god, is there
Speaker 3: such a spectrum?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: It is not a monolithic community by any fucking means.
Speaker 3: I just met a billionaire spiritualist, and I've also met
Speaker 3: a spiritualist on that exact same vibe, exact same frequency
Speaker 3: and all that, all the shit that billionaire is saying
Speaker 3: the same shit as somebody who lives in a fucking
Speaker 3: a single wide right now. Like yo, it is. There
Speaker 3: is so many types of people on that spectrum. It's insane.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude. I feel like it's becoming more common personally,
Speaker 2: because at least I don't know if it's becoming more
Speaker 2: common or if it's just becoming more common to be
Speaker 2: comfortable to talk about that kind of stuff. Could be both.
Speaker 3: I suppose I think we're kind of in a second
Speaker 3: not a second Enlightenment, but kind of rights as an
Speaker 3: American society. I think we are on the precipice of
Speaker 3: a golden age and or our downfall, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: I think it's more likely to the Golden age personally,
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 3: So. I think that we have a lot, a lot
Speaker 3: of momentum in that direction right now, but it's still
Speaker 3: too early to call it. You know, it depends on
Speaker 3: how we move here in the next decade. But I
Speaker 3: think we're on the verge of some amazing things as
Speaker 3: a nation.
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, I'm optimistic as long as it's not
Speaker 2: fucked with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly. And that's the point though. I think that
Speaker 3: with that comes a new way of thinking about all
Speaker 3: of these things, right, like quantum mechanics and quantum healing anything.
Speaker 3: Quantum is not something that only the academics are talking about.
Speaker 3: Regular average jos have that in their cultural zeitgeist over
Speaker 3: the last few years, specifically because of certain things, because
Speaker 3: of podcasts, because of certain people questioning scientific narratives, and like,
Speaker 3: this is a thing that is spanning the gap, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's not like a new
Speaker 3: religious movement, but it's almost like a subculture that's growing
Speaker 3: if you will.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well. And also, if it wasn't for metaphysics,
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, we probably wouldn't know that
Speaker 2: there are at least what is it, eleven or thirteen dimensions? Right,
Speaker 2: Like that was discovered because of metaphysics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I'm not discrediting metaphysics by any means.
Speaker 3: It's fascinating how they're using it help. We just learned
Speaker 3: how they're using it on ethernet cables to watch and
Speaker 3: monitor for security reasons. Like, dude, that was fucking wild.
Speaker 2: That is super cool, all right.
Speaker 3: Then on the other side of that, we got these
Speaker 3: people turning their bodies to malt stone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little fucking weird. That seems a bit masochistic.
Speaker 2: Almost almost almost.
Speaker 3: But let's see here the science of human composting, because
Speaker 3: I'm actually kind of curious on that one as well.
Speaker 3: I thought the human pH because of our blood and
Speaker 3: are like stomach acids and shit, would not make good mulch.
Speaker 3: I I kind of didn't know. I thought that ash
Speaker 3: was the best way to mulch. But apparently there's some people.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 2: The composting itself happens in a cavernous warehouse that Spade
Speaker 2: calls the greenhouse. She describes the smell as alternating between
Speaker 2: that of a grassy meadow after a rain and a barnyard.
Speaker 2: Inside the warehouse, thirty four white hexagonal cylinders, or individual vessels,
Speaker 2: are stacked up on top of each other, forming the
Speaker 2: shape of a beehive. When a new body comes in,
Speaker 2: the staff lays it, lays it inside one of the
Speaker 2: vessels on a bed of wood chips, on a bed
Speaker 2: of wood chips, alfalfa and straw. Spades said, then they
Speaker 2: cover it with more of the same. If you were alive,
Speaker 2: it would probably be a little itchy, Spade said.
Speaker 3: That's fucking weird. Why would you say that?
Speaker 2: I yeah, why, I don't get that now.
Speaker 3: Like a coffin salesman being like, if you were alive, well,
Speaker 3: you'd want to lay in this, like bro, bro.
Speaker 2: What Yeah? Yeah, some dracula shit there right. Microbes and
Speaker 2: bacteria go to work on the body, a natural process
Speaker 2: that generates heat, raising the temperature inside the vessel to
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty degrees fahrenheit. Under Washington State regulations,
Speaker 2: this natural heat has to be sustained for three straight
Speaker 2: days to kill off any pathogens that might otherwise contaminate
Speaker 2: the soil.
Speaker 3: Okay, actually, look at that pod. That's kind of weird looking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks a little Nasa ish to me. Uh huh,
Speaker 2: seven or eight years I've been doing this, and still
Speaker 2: when I see that temperature spike, I think holy mackerel,
Speaker 2: Spade said, channeling her inner eighth grade science fair nerd.
Speaker 2: It just feels like some sort of miracle, even though
Speaker 2: it is nature.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so, they're basically just letting the body decomposts
Speaker 3: within itself.
Speaker 2: I guess so. It says. The body stays in the
Speaker 2: vessel for about thirty to forty days every week or so.
Speaker 2: The staff wrote, rotate, it rotates it to let air through,
Speaker 2: and the body transforms and consolidates into a cubic yard
Speaker 2: of dark brown dirt enough to fill the bed of
Speaker 2: a pickup truck. Holy shit, that much.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: The staff removes any titanium hips or knees left over
Speaker 2: in the process, then grinds the bones down to sand
Speaker 2: and mixes them back in with the soil. The entire
Speaker 2: process takes about two months and costs about seven grand,
Speaker 2: more than the cost of cremation, but less than a
Speaker 2: full service conventional burial with cemetery plot, according to data
Speaker 2: collected by funeral Osity, a consumer website.
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, that's not the worst alternative I've ever heard,
Speaker 3: but like, still, that's weird, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still a weird practice.
Speaker 3: It's not as bad as what we thought. Like I
Speaker 3: thought wood chipper like legit, I thought that's what they
Speaker 3: were doing here. But I mean that actually doesn't sound
Speaker 3: too horrible.
Speaker 2: They're just letting its decompose.
Speaker 3: And I mean, who cares, right, it is your body
Speaker 3: and you're gone, so like whatever. But again, I think
Speaker 3: it's very interesting which states they're trying to make that
Speaker 3: legal in. Whenever they're trying to follow the precedence of
Speaker 3: you know, certain Southeastern Asian countries. It's just things to monitor.
Speaker 2: You know. I would actually like to say, that's really
Speaker 2: not as bad as I thought it was. Now, like
Speaker 2: like looking back to it, it's like, okay, well, I
Speaker 2: mean you're just letting it compost.
Speaker 3: Right, But what I'm saying is the composting of the
Speaker 3: body whatever. That's what I'm saying. If it's weird to you, fine,
Speaker 3: it's not something I would want to do. I like
Speaker 3: the ash idea better just me, But fine, it's do
Speaker 3: you right, But Washington, Oregon, California, and now New York.
Speaker 3: Now again, it's just interesting that like this isn't a
Speaker 3: thing in certain states, but it is in specific states,
Speaker 3: specific blue states. If you just want to look at
Speaker 3: the last election results, I just find it interesting.
Speaker 2: You know what that is? That is pretty cool? Like
Speaker 2: that picture of that guy standing next to that uh
Speaker 2: to that plant stand, It's like, you know, now that's
Speaker 2: pulling out my hard strings. Imagine like that's your grandma
Speaker 2: and you know, up pops a flower Like that's pretty
Speaker 2: sentimental if you think about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I would feel about that, honestly.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the flower popping out of Grandma,
Speaker 3: that'd be dope. But like to be planting ship up
Speaker 3: in up in Ma Ma, like I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, you're planting up in Ma Ma, Like Mama
Speaker 2: is like what what the fucking flowers are living off of?
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. I'm planting flowers inside of Ma Ma,
Speaker 3: like it up in her, like in her in her body.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Like that being said, I don't want to be the
Speaker 2: person that's, you know, burying the seeds in that compost.
Speaker 2: Though that sounds weird, that sounds fucking weird.
Speaker 3: Then that's my point. That's my point. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 3: if you're donating this soil to like some erosions somewhere
Speaker 3: in the state and like that's where it's good, then dope.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, like, but some people would totally want to
Speaker 3: make a garden out of it. But again, like I'm
Speaker 3: not here to judge if that's like a thing that
Speaker 3: like yo, you and your grandma had like a huge
Speaker 3: gardening relationship, and like she would want this and like,
Speaker 3: you know, plant this specific type of flower in this
Speaker 3: because that was her favorite. Like if that's a thing, then,
Speaker 3: like I'm not here to judge. I'm just saying it's
Speaker 3: not a me thing. But why is it that New
Speaker 3: York again very blue states, are making it okay to
Speaker 3: mulch people. I find that to just be interesting a
Speaker 3: red flag, if you will, And that is what we
Speaker 3: do here at the Cult of Conspiracies, report the red flags.
Speaker 2: You know what, It just got me thinking because I'm
Speaker 2: somebody I keep a lot of plants in my house.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it helps clean the air and like
Speaker 2: those kind of plants, you know, and I got i
Speaker 2: don't know, probably seven or eight plants inside of my
Speaker 2: house and there are like all on winds, windowsills and shit,
Speaker 2: and so it's cool. But you know they that if
Speaker 2: you want your plants to grow healthy, that you got
Speaker 2: to talk to them nice. You know. Imagine you're sitting
Speaker 2: there talking to your fucking grandma.
Speaker 3: Come on, grandma, you can do it.
Speaker 2: Make this flower bloom. Baby.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying they did the studies. Death metal makes
Speaker 3: plants grow harder and stronger and bigger and faster. And
Speaker 3: so I also know that my grandmother loves rock and roll,
Speaker 3: So like, if that was to happen, I feel like
Speaker 3: that'd be a double down on it. So that would
Speaker 3: be dope.
Speaker 2: That is pretty cool. So anyway, the New York Governor
Speaker 2: Kathy Hochel hol Hochel on Saturday signed into law a
Speaker 2: bill legalizing the composting of human remains, one of a
Speaker 2: number of new so called green burial methods that are
Speaker 2: gaining popularity as people look for ecologically conscious alternatives to
Speaker 2: cremation or traditional burial in a coffin. New York is
Speaker 2: now the sixth state to legalize human composting, also known
Speaker 2: as terramation or natural organic reduction after death. Natural organic reduction, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds about right. Washington became the first state to
Speaker 2: legalize the practice in twenty nineteen. To be clear, this
Speaker 2: does not mean people will be able to toss their
Speaker 2: deceased loved ones and into a backyard compost tumbler along
Speaker 2: with their discarded kitchen scraps and lawn trimmings. Human composting
Speaker 2: comprises placing someone's body into a reusable vessel or pod
Speaker 2: along with a biodegradable plant material like wood, chips, straw,
Speaker 2: and alfalfa. While the vessel was stored at a special facility,
Speaker 2: microbes and beneficial bacteria break down the body over a month,
Speaker 2: eventually producing a cubic yard of compost or twenty seven
Speaker 2: cubic feet. The compost can be then or can then
Speaker 2: be incorporated into outdoor land like a natural preserved cemetery,
Speaker 2: buried at a traditional cemetery, or yes used to amend, fertilize,
Speaker 2: or mulch a memorial garden.
Speaker 3: See here's the deal, bro they say, and by they
Speaker 3: I mean the all encompassing day, the they that run
Speaker 3: the polls, and the they that are in charge of shit.
Speaker 3: They are saying that we are running out of room
Speaker 3: to bury people, that we pretty much have too many
Speaker 3: cemeteries in this country, and that we need to start
Speaker 3: finding new ways to get rid of dead people, and
Speaker 3: we need to find ways of doing it really quickly,
Speaker 3: really cheaply, and we need to do it by a
Speaker 3: lot of them. They legalize this in twenty nineteen, right
Speaker 3: before COVID, and then again we see yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So just as I was saying, like all of this,
Speaker 3: this has nothing necessarily to do with the suicide pods,
Speaker 3: but as we were looking about things about death, about
Speaker 3: all of this, I just wanted to take a little
Speaker 3: second and talk about these other ways that our death
Speaker 3: is trying to be used for the quote unquote good.
Speaker 3: Although again I think there's a lot more to that
Speaker 3: story than what they were telling us.
Speaker 2: Although I'll say this, this wouldn't be my choice, but
Speaker 2: I would take this option over like a traditional burial,
Speaker 2: because if you do, if you look into that, dude,
Speaker 2: it is so expensive to buy the coffin and then
Speaker 2: the plot and you know, and God forbid, you want
Speaker 2: to be put up in like a one of the drawers,
Speaker 2: like the walls, oh, the mausoleum. Yeah yeah, Like that's
Speaker 2: even more expensive, I think, But I feel like this
Speaker 2: would be I would definitely take this over being buried
Speaker 2: in a coffin, for sure.
Speaker 3: I wish we had a New Orleans plot that's like
Speaker 3: the reusable one that like everybody's been buried in because
Speaker 3: once they turn the dust, they just get swept out
Speaker 3: to the back and it's all good. So like that
Speaker 3: same tomb will get used for like ten generations and shit,
Speaker 3: you know, I love that. I also add that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, that would be sick. But you know,
Speaker 2: also keep in mind the little loophole as to never
Speaker 2: having your house taken away from you is to bury
Speaker 2: a family member in your backyard and the state nobody
Speaker 2: can ever legally take your house away from you, even
Speaker 2: if like you are so far behind on bills, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, like they it's legally your land. Now, if
Speaker 2: you bury a family member in your backyard, did you
Speaker 2: know that that's a federal law.
Speaker 3: I live in an hoa. If I pulled some shit
Speaker 3: like that, and I've already tried to wage war against
Speaker 3: these fuckers and they they they got my nuts and
Speaker 3: a vice. Once upon a time, if I tried to
Speaker 3: pull some slick shit like that, I've already like thought
Speaker 3: about putting a bat box in my backyard making it
Speaker 3: a federally protected land and that they could go fuck
Speaker 3: off with it, because I love bats and people hate them,
Speaker 3: but like whatever, But then I was like, no, no,
Speaker 3: because they're gonna be assholes because I live in Louisiana
Speaker 3: and somebody's gonna like smoke bomb my bat box whenever
Speaker 3: I'm like not home or something because people are dicks.
Speaker 3: So you can do the same to bury a family
Speaker 3: member in my yard, bro, that would be a hysterical
Speaker 3: and be that would be an expensive court case.
Speaker 2: That's one of the oldest laws written. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, like that was one of like the original
Speaker 2: shits that were that were passed, bro. And so it's
Speaker 2: been it's been around for like several or a couple
Speaker 2: hundred years. And so I heard about that, and I
Speaker 2: was like, dude, I mean, fuck the Viking send off.
Speaker 2: Just chop me up and throw me in the backyard.
Speaker 2: That's all I need.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 3: Just shot me into like five pieces, send me to
Speaker 3: five different people's backyard, just claim that I'm buried at
Speaker 3: all of them. Do a whole sat in my own care.
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting. I wonder if you can divide up
Speaker 2: your body parts. You know, my mom gets my left leg,
Speaker 2: my dad might gets maybe he gets my head. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: William Wallace it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting theory.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We have to look into it. I don't know this specifically.
Speaker 3: The only time I can think of where I've seen
Speaker 3: body parts get their own separate cemetery is actually during
Speaker 3: the Civil War. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't a Stonewall Jackson.
Speaker 3: His arm was shot off and it's buried at a
Speaker 3: certain battlefield where it was shot off, and then his
Speaker 3: body is buried where he died, and they actually have
Speaker 3: a whole tombstonwhere says here is Stonewall Jackson's arm. If
Speaker 3: it's not him, I forget was general.
Speaker 2: But yeah, wow, that's pretty thing.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's definitely a thing. But anyway, anyway, like I said,
Speaker 3: none of this is anything to do with the suicide pods.
Speaker 3: But I just find it interesting that these states are
Speaker 3: passing these types of laws and things, you know, around
Speaker 3: certain strategic times and that kind of while we're on
Speaker 3: the topic of death and all of these things, I
Speaker 3: just wanted to kind of spend a little second to
Speaker 3: talk about that now the topic in question here that
Speaker 3: really and truly, this whole thing in theory sounds like
Speaker 3: a good concept until it was actually attempted to be
Speaker 3: used and went horribly wrong. And now there's an investigation
Speaker 3: being launched against it. So you know, let's hear about this, Jonathan.
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of the sarco pod?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't.
Speaker 3: So this is a picture of it right now here.
Speaker 3: And again, anybody that wants to see this instead of
Speaker 3: hear about it, please come check usund Patreon and or rockfin.
Speaker 3: The sarcopod, also known as the pegasauce and has been
Speaker 3: referred to as a suicide pod, is a euthanasia device
Speaker 3: or machine consisting of a three D printed detachable capsule
Speaker 3: mounted on a stand that contains a canister of liquid
Speaker 3: nitrogen to die by suicide through inert gas exphyxiation. SARCO
Speaker 3: is short for sarcophagus. By the ways, this is the sarcopod.
Speaker 3: This is our sarcophagus pod. It is used in conjunction
Speaker 3: with an inert gas nitrogen, which decreases oxygen levels rapidly,
Speaker 3: which prevents panic, sense of suffocation and struggling before unconsciousness
Speaker 3: known as hyper hypercapnic alarm response. Basically, when you start suffocating,
Speaker 3: you start freaking out and trying to gas for air.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have that, caused by this presence of high
Speaker 3: carbon dioxide concentrations in the blood. The sarco was invented
Speaker 3: by euthanasia campaigner Philip Neietsty don't Know in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Nichgi Nizki there you Go said in twenty twenty one
Speaker 3: that he sought and received legal advice about the device's
Speaker 3: legality in Switzerland. Okay, so this pod essentially you get
Speaker 3: in it and you push a button and you just
Speaker 3: kind of lay back and relax, and this liquid nitrogen,
Speaker 3: which is then converted into just nitrogen gas, slowly starts
Speaker 3: to replace the oxygen. And this doesn't give you any
Speaker 3: type of allegedly anyway, it doesn't give you any type
Speaker 3: of like negative response. You just kind of slowly drift
Speaker 3: off to sleep allegedly. So actually, if you want to
Speaker 3: see you go ahead and read the mechanics on it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is where it gets into the
Speaker 2: conversation of is it still considered suicide? If you're knocking
Speaker 2: on death's door whenever you get in there, you know, like,
Speaker 2: are you stage four cancer? You got a week to
Speaker 2: live and you want to go out on your terms?
Speaker 2: Is that still considered suicide? I mean, technically I think.
Speaker 3: But it's I mean, by definition, taking your own life
Speaker 3: is suicide. Now, if we're going to argue about the
Speaker 3: ethics of that, well then that's you know, one of
Speaker 3: those again that can be argued backwards and forwards in
Speaker 3: straw Man and steelmanned until the cows come home.
Speaker 2: You know, right, ethically you could argue it. But I
Speaker 2: guess spiritually or religiously, I don't know if there is
Speaker 2: an argument.
Speaker 3: It depends on your religion. It depends on your religion.
Speaker 3: Certain religions see it as a very good thing. In Japan,
Speaker 3: sopuku was an honorable way to die if you had
Speaker 3: been dishonored or disgraced in some way. Right, as a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, suicide in the suicide forest because of
Speaker 3: it being such a cultural thing in Japan. In Rome,
Speaker 3: it was considered a very honorable way to die. That
Speaker 3: you would have a big party and get drunken all that,
Speaker 3: then go lay in the bats up and slit your
Speaker 3: wrists and like that was considered the correct way to die.
Speaker 2: What there's a yeah, I never heard about that one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, that was a big thing for Caesars. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean unless they were assassinated. Shit, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 3: always been a big thing. So not in every culture obviously,
Speaker 3: but there are cases of it from around the world.
Speaker 3: But yeah, especially when you look at patients right who
Speaker 3: are suffering from very painful cancers that they have. They
Speaker 3: were supposed to die like five years ago, and somehow
Speaker 3: they're still alive, but it's getting progressively worse, and it's
Speaker 3: like they have made their arrangements. They're at peace, they
Speaker 3: want they are waiting to die and it's painful, but
Speaker 3: they can't afford the medications. Ba ba ba bap. Look,
Speaker 3: there's there's tons of cases where like you could argue
Speaker 3: for the pros and to the cons of someone actually
Speaker 3: wanting to use this device. And as as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, we're going to here in a little bit.
Speaker 2: All right, Well the first patient, Okay, So the mechanics
Speaker 2: of it, it says to access or access to the
Speaker 2: SARCO will be controlled by an online test to gauge
Speaker 2: mental fitness. If applicants pass, they receive an access code
Speaker 2: to a SARCO device, which is valid for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: Users of the SARCO can choose either a dark or
Speaker 2: transparent view from the capsule. The transparent view would be
Speaker 2: chosen if they wish to transport the machine to a
Speaker 2: particular location to see a certain vista from the machine.
Speaker 2: The inventor feels that, in quotes, where you die is
Speaker 2: certainly an important factor. In quotes, the capsule of Sarco
Speaker 2: provides for a rapid decrease in oxygen level while maintaining
Speaker 2: a low level of carbon dioxide. On activation, four liters
Speaker 2: or one point one gallons of liquid nitrogen causes the
Speaker 2: oxygen levels to drop silently to less than five percent
Speaker 2: in less than one minute. According to Nizke, the occupant
Speaker 2: presses the button and the capsule is filled with nitrogen,
Speaker 2: they will feel a bit dizzy, but will then rapidly
Speaker 2: lose consciousness and die. I'm good, dude, I'm good. On
Speaker 2: that way, dude, no way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is a whole thing, right. So that's
Speaker 3: the overall basics of the Sarco pod. Now, let's see
Speaker 3: this article here from National Catholic Register. Trust me, I
Speaker 3: was shocked whenever I saw what the link was clicked
Speaker 3: on it and got hit with that as the title.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay. The suicide pod claims its first victim,
Speaker 3: delighting its inventor. The American woman who has yet to
Speaker 3: be identified, was sixty four years old. Go ahead and
Speaker 3: read this.
Speaker 2: Sir, dude. Imagine you press the button and like five
Speaker 2: seconds in you're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, no, what am
Speaker 2: I doing?
Speaker 3: What am I doing?
Speaker 2: But then you're like, you're trapped in there, You're done.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you push the button, you push the button,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I guess so I feel like there would be a
Speaker 2: little bit of buyer's remorse for that last fifty five
Speaker 2: seconds of your life. You're going to sleep, I suppose so. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it says once inside the sealed chamber of the futuristic
Speaker 2: Sarco suicide pod, the woman was given an eerie command,
Speaker 2: if you want to die, press this button. So she did,
Speaker 2: and the chamber flooded with nitrogen gas. Her oxygen levels plummeted,
Speaker 2: causing her to pass out. She was dead within minutes.
Speaker 2: The woman, who has yet to be identified, was sixty four,
Speaker 2: who has yet to be identified. What you go in
Speaker 2: there like, you don't even have to How is this
Speaker 2: not being okay?
Speaker 3: This is I thought that there was some twenty twenty
Speaker 3: four dog.
Speaker 2: I thought that there was some kind of vetting process.
Speaker 2: What if somebody is just having a really fucking bad day,
Speaker 2: You're going to go in there anonymously.
Speaker 3: This is an American woman that traveled to Switzerland for this.
Speaker 3: Bro no no read about this and I'm telling you
Speaker 3: it's more of a process than just walking in and deciding.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, there's a lot more to
Speaker 3: this story than what they originally thought.
Speaker 2: Bro Okay. Well, the woman who has yet to be
Speaker 2: identified with sixty four years old and American, suffering from
Speaker 2: a severely compromised immune system. She'd flown to Switzerland to
Speaker 2: obtain an assisted suicide using the Hideously Sleek invention Hideously Sleek,
Speaker 2: which had been placed beneath the canopy of trees in
Speaker 2: the Swiss Woodlands. Her death earlier last week marks the
Speaker 2: first time someone is known to have used the pod
Speaker 2: for its intended purposes. Reports indicate that she was suffering
Speaker 2: from a various very serious illness for at least two years.
Speaker 2: Switzerland is one of the few countries in the world
Speaker 2: where foreigners can travel for the purpose of obtaining an
Speaker 2: assisted suicide. I don't know, I don't like scroll back
Speaker 2: up there for a second. She's the first one that
Speaker 2: was you, that used it for its design purpose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the first one for.
Speaker 2: Its design purpose. Like Why do they have to word
Speaker 2: it that way? Are they saying that it was used otherwise?
Speaker 3: No, Keep in mind it's the National Catholic Register, So
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be the hideously sleek design, like they're
Speaker 3: they're going to be throwing it through a certain lens.
Speaker 3: And I mean we should know that going into it.
Speaker 3: That's why I even mentioned it. So with that, they're
Speaker 3: they're making it seem like it's going to be as
Speaker 3: negative as possible.
Speaker 2: God Jim okay, right, well, it says. Reacting to the
Speaker 2: news of the sarcos inaugural usage, Bishop Felix uh Gimur
Speaker 2: of Baslu, president of the Swiss Bishop's Conference, told Swiss
Speaker 2: media the pod was dangerous because it makes suicide too
Speaker 2: easy to access. The Catholic Church teaches that suicide, whether
Speaker 2: assisted by a physician to reduce suffering or as an
Speaker 2: expression of individual autonomy, is a grave moral evil. Intentional euthanasia,
Speaker 2: whatever its forms or motives, is murder, reads the Catechism
Speaker 2: of the Catholic Church. It is gravely contrary to the
Speaker 2: dignity of the human person and to the respect due
Speaker 2: to the Living God his creator. Suicide is seriously contrary
Speaker 2: to justice, hope and charity. It is forbidden by the
Speaker 2: Fifth Commandment. Indeed, indeed, local authorities also had a negative reaction.
Speaker 2: Immediately following the announcement of sarco's inaugural usage made to
Speaker 2: the Swiss press by the pods inventor Philip Niske, Swiss
Speaker 2: police arrived at the scene and seized the Sarco. Several
Speaker 2: arrests were made of individuals associated with the Last Resort,
Speaker 2: a non profit that advocates advocates for assisted suicide in Switzerland,
Speaker 2: which had supervised the woman's death. Though assisted suicide has
Speaker 2: been legal in Switzerland since nineteen forty two, Swiss law Wow.
Speaker 3: Whoa whoa Assisted suicide has been legal in Switzerland since
Speaker 3: nineteen Holy shit.
Speaker 2: Switzerland's always kind of been one of those live and
Speaker 2: let live kind of kind of places.
Speaker 3: I think they're like famously neutral, right, they were the
Speaker 3: only hitler didn't fuck with them, you know, Napoleon didn't
Speaker 3: fuck with them. Like that's like I understood thing. No
Speaker 3: one fucks with Switzerland. They just they're chilling.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they've been having the assisted suicide in some
Speaker 2: former fashion since forty two. But it says Swiss law
Speaker 2: permits aid assisted suicide provided that the individual ends their
Speaker 2: life without any outside help and that those involved in
Speaker 2: the process have no personal gain in mind, the Sarco
Speaker 2: pod runs a foul of Swiss law. According to the
Speaker 2: Interior Minister Elizabeth baum Schneider, the Sarco suicide capsule is
Speaker 2: not legal in two respects, she recently said to the
Speaker 2: National Council. On one hand, is it does not fulfill
Speaker 2: the demands of the product safety law and as such
Speaker 2: must not be brought into circulation. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: the core responding use of nitrogen is not compatible with
Speaker 2: the article on purpose into in the chemical's law. Nischke,
Speaker 2: who claims to have monitored the woman's suicide from across
Speaker 2: the German border through a heart rate and oxygen monitor
Speaker 2: as well as from a camera inside the device, ooh,
Speaker 2: I don't like that part, right, Yeah, that's you know,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some sick fucks that are jerking off
Speaker 2: to that, to that film.
Speaker 3: Like you know, the dark web has got that.
Speaker 2: Floating, right, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Snuff films like this isn't this is a true snuff film.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if there ever was one, for sure, right.
Speaker 2: Nizki said that when she entered the SARCO, she almost
Speaker 2: immediately pressed the button. Damn. She didn't hesitate at all.
Speaker 2: She was ready. She didn't say anything. She really wanted
Speaker 2: to die. My estimate is that she lost consciousness within
Speaker 2: two minutes and that she died after five minutes. We
Speaker 2: saw jerky, small twitches of the muscles in her arms,
Speaker 2: but she was probably already unconscious by then. It looked
Speaker 2: exactly how we expected it to look. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: tell the guy.
Speaker 3: Look at the guy. Uh, can he looks like a psycho? Dude?
Speaker 3: Those glasses do him no favors.
Speaker 2: I wonder after him seeing that, is that going to
Speaker 2: make him want to, you know, jump in there on
Speaker 2: himself one day.
Speaker 3: I'm you know, it's you know, it's bad, it's really fun.
Speaker 3: There's no nice way to slice this, honestly.
Speaker 2: When reached for comment, a spokesperson for the Last Resort
Speaker 2: told The Register that Nichke was withholding comment until Swiss
Speaker 2: Swiss authorities determined whether the group's four the group's four
Speaker 2: detained members would be charged. In the moments before entering
Speaker 2: the pod, the woman reportedly issued an oral statement to
Speaker 2: Fiona Stewart, a lawyer, a lawyer and co director of
Speaker 2: the Last Resort, in which she confirmed her wish to
Speaker 2: die and that she she'd had this wish since being
Speaker 2: diagnosed with her undisclosed condition, which caused her severe pain.
Speaker 3: An undisclosed condition could be any number of things.
Speaker 2: You know, there's one piece of me that says, this
Speaker 2: is really fucked up and it shouldn't even be a thing.
Speaker 2: But then there's another piece of me that's like, I
Speaker 2: feel like people who are going to kill themselves are
Speaker 2: going to kill themselves.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I'm with you, right, They're gonna find
Speaker 3: a way. That's why whenever I was in the Marines,
Speaker 3: we had somebody that would do that, we would have
Speaker 3: to put them on suicide watch, meaning that like at
Speaker 3: all times twenty four to seven, doesn't matter, in the shower,
Speaker 3: taking a shit, whatever, somebody is literally damn near attached
Speaker 3: to them at the hip and making sure that they
Speaker 3: won't try to do some stupid shit. That's a whole thing.
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it, But again there's a
Speaker 3: little you know what we can do. You want to
Speaker 3: keep reading this one or do you want to move
Speaker 3: on to the next one, Because gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 3: bro at first they arrested these people, and it was
Speaker 3: because they literally just fired up this suicide machine and
Speaker 3: they are now accomplices in a murder. Right.
Speaker 2: However, well, let's keep reading it then, I mean, just
Speaker 2: to maybe we'll get a little bit more context. I mean, hey,
Speaker 2: I hope we will, but I doubt we will. The
Speaker 2: woman was also consulted by a psychiatrist, who deemed her
Speaker 2: capable of making the decision. It had been reported that
Speaker 2: she had no history of mental illness. Nizchke has boasted
Speaker 2: in the past that his product represents a giant leap
Speaker 2: forward in the death with Dignity movement, which has seen
Speaker 2: significant gains in nations across the West in recent decades,
Speaker 2: including in the United States, in which eleven states have
Speaker 2: legalized physician assisted suicide. In three more states, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: and New York, laws to allow physician assisted suicide have
Speaker 2: been introduced into the into the state legislature. But for Nizke,
Speaker 2: legalized physician that's I don't know why. I'm having a
Speaker 2: hard time saying that word. Physician assisted suicide falls short
Speaker 2: of this ultimate vision in which assisted suicides are de medicalized,
Speaker 2: meaning that they can be obtained without doctors and psychiatrists,
Speaker 2: difficult to procure drugs or hurdles of any kind. The
Speaker 2: SARCO can be three be printed and it's available or
Speaker 2: its plans are available on Exit International's websites. When the techniques, oh.
Speaker 3: You can print your own at home, Well.
Speaker 2: What about the nitrogen. You're just gonna buy some of
Speaker 2: that too. Is that hard to get your hands on? No,
Speaker 2: not nitrogen?
Speaker 3: Liquid nitrogen, dude.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess that's pretty easy to get.
Speaker 3: Very easy to get. As a matter of fact, at
Speaker 3: one point time, I was thinking about making a liquid
Speaker 3: nitrogen ice cream company. Like, No, that's totally easy to get.
Speaker 3: The expensive part is the moors to move it from
Speaker 3: point A to point B.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, you can get it three D printed,
Speaker 2: It says. When the technology becomes available for large scale printing,
Speaker 2: the group believes its product will become readily available to anyone.
Speaker 2: It's not just some medical privilege for the very sick,
Speaker 2: he said, it's a fundamental human right. If you've got
Speaker 2: the precious gift of life, you should be able to
Speaker 2: gift that gift away at the time of your choosing.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so this is September of this year,
Speaker 3: September thirtieth, a little over a month ago, right, and
Speaker 3: now you know what, I just wanted to throw this
Speaker 3: one out too. The doctor behind the suicide pod wants
Speaker 3: Ai to assist at the end of life. You know,
Speaker 3: I know that I'm a little bit of a hater
Speaker 3: of Ai. Okay, I know that I'd be sipping a
Speaker 3: little bit of that hater aid and I'm cool with
Speaker 3: that bias. But like, big dog, what tell me this
Speaker 3: is not literally a Terminator movie?
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't want AI learning, you know,
Speaker 2: from my death, because it's constantly learning. And if it could,
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's going to find some kind of flaws, right,
Speaker 2: because it's Ai, and it's going to be like, well,
Speaker 2: if you really want to do it a little bit easier,
Speaker 2: maybe you do it this way. And I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm this is so sketchy.
Speaker 3: Tell me it's not right. The death of an American
Speaker 3: woman inside Philip Nichke's latest invention reveals the next frontier
Speaker 3: in the right to die debate. How in the hell
Speaker 3: does that have anything to do with Ai begad.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it says the world's first assistant
Speaker 2: suicide pod wraps up around the human body like a
Speaker 2: space capsule, tilting gently toward the sky. The device is
Speaker 2: designed to look as if the person inside were embarking
Speaker 2: on a journey, says the inventor's He says, it gives
Speaker 2: you the idea you're saying goodbye to the world, like
Speaker 2: you're in a spacecraft or some shit. Is that why
Speaker 2: they're trying to simulate here?
Speaker 3: Basically, basically you're just going off to the next world, big.
Speaker 2: Dog, right, right. So then it gets into the woman
Speaker 2: that ended up doing it. She died seven minutes later,
Speaker 2: estimated the Swiss assisted suicide group the Last Resort, whose
Speaker 2: president Florian Willett was present at her death and was
Speaker 2: later detained for aiding and abetting the woman's suicide. Nichke
Speaker 2: Uh tried to watch the video, tried to watch by
Speaker 2: video link, although he describes the signal was patchy. Oh
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was PATCHI yeah, I'm sure, buddy. Interesting
Speaker 2: now that you can't if it was patchy, I bet you.
Speaker 2: That's his legal way of trying to get out of it.
Speaker 3: I could see that too, Like, bro, I wouldn't even there,
Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't even I wouldn't even there.
Speaker 2: I didn't even see it, dude, it's fucked up.
Speaker 3: Calm's a liar.
Speaker 2: Now he is using his latest device, called Sarco, named
Speaker 2: after an ancient sarcophagus, to provoke a new debate around
Speaker 2: the role of doctors and countries where assisted suicide has
Speaker 2: been made legal. In most places, the process is treated
Speaker 2: as part of the medical system. Patients rely on medical
Speaker 2: professionals first to assess whether they meet the criteria. In
Speaker 2: many countries, the patients must be terminally ill. In others,
Speaker 2: they must prove that they are mentally fit to consent
Speaker 2: to their decision. Well, there's a laudrey a little bit, right,
Speaker 2: So it looks like as a result of them being
Speaker 2: compliant with the death or the suicide, and maybe they're
Speaker 2: trying to label it as a homicide. Maybe that is
Speaker 2: where they're trying to bring in the AI to do
Speaker 2: it so that they don't have to be there, they
Speaker 2: don't have to be the ones that monitor it. That's
Speaker 2: my guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because now if it was an AI bot that
Speaker 3: was doing it, people can't get arrested. It was one
Speaker 3: by her for her, you know, they just kind of
Speaker 3: put the pod out there, and I mean that could
Speaker 3: have just anybody could have no, because even then it's
Speaker 3: still like handing the alcoholic a drink, isn't it? If
Speaker 3: you put the pod out there, what happens if a
Speaker 3: child would have wandered through those Swiss woods and found
Speaker 3: this and gotten inside and pushed the button like it,
Speaker 3: I don't know's it's maybe there's a weird gray areas.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's like a key or a code that only
Speaker 2: you know or the only you have.
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, a little touchpad key or a
Speaker 3: thumb print keypad that like only you can get into.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, sure, yeah, I guess so, I mean still
Speaker 2: fucked up. I'm not saying by any means that this
Speaker 2: is a good idea, and I definitely absolutely would not
Speaker 2: go that way.
Speaker 3: No doubt. Now, this is a quick little vida hear
Speaker 3: about from Global News about the first UH death by
Speaker 3: suicide pod. Let's check it out to.
Speaker 6: The nonprofit association The Last Resort. The device works by
Speaker 6: creating a low oxygen, low carbon dioxide environment with the
Speaker 6: use of nitrogen. A person looking to end their life
Speaker 6: climbs in the three D printed capsule, pushes a button
Speaker 6: and the nitrogen gas is released, replacing the air. The
Speaker 6: person is supposed to fall asleep and die by suffocation
Speaker 6: in a few minutes. Reports say a sixty four year
Speaker 6: old woman from the US Midwest traveled northern Switzerland and
Speaker 6: ended her life using the device on Monday. In a statement,
Speaker 6: the association commented on this first death using the pod,
Speaker 6: saying the individual had been suffering for many years from
Speaker 6: a number of serious problems associated with severe immune compromise.
Speaker 6: Laws in Switzerland allow for assisted suicide as long as
Speaker 6: the person takes his or her life with no external help.
Speaker 6: Lawmakers have suggested as recently as this week the capsule
Speaker 6: would not be legal.
Speaker 7: They'd say that the product itself hasn't been approved for
Speaker 7: sale and that makes it a product that shouldn't be
Speaker 7: on the market.
Speaker 6: The nonprofit has a different view, stating legal advice since
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one has consistently found that the use of
Speaker 6: Sarco in Switzerland would be lawful. Ethics professor Jacob Shelley
Speaker 6: says there are bigger questions at play.
Speaker 7: We're talking here about the fact that the product exists
Speaker 7: and was used by someone to end their life without
Speaker 7: actually asking Some of the really important ethical questions as
Speaker 7: to why they may have acted in that way or
Speaker 7: decided to end their life. If the same individual could
Speaker 7: have ended their life with a firearm and it wouldn't.
Speaker 8: Be in the news.
Speaker 6: Disability advocate and lawyer David Lprowski says expanding access to
Speaker 6: assisted deaths comes with inherent risk.
Speaker 8: Whether you think this should never be allowed, or it
Speaker 8: should be allowed in some cases or more cases. Wherever
Speaker 8: you stand on that debate, I hope we can all
Speaker 8: agree that it should be protected with enough safeguards to
Speaker 8: make sure it's never misused.
Speaker 6: If you are a loved one is in need of
Speaker 6: help or support, you can dial our text in nine
Speaker 6: to eight eight from anywhere in Canada and be connected
Speaker 6: with a professional through the Suicide Crisis helpline.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting that that was from Canada, right because
Speaker 3: here in a moment, actually, let me see if I say, oh,
Speaker 3: I didn't pull it up. I did not pull it up.
Speaker 3: Canada is now talking about bringing this to their country,
Speaker 3: the SARCO. And this is kind of another take on
Speaker 3: what happened in how everything went down before we get
Speaker 3: to the Big m Night Shyamalan plot twist on this
Speaker 3: because again they have re exhumed and checked the body
Speaker 3: and it may not have been as peaceful of a
Speaker 3: sleep as they would like us to believe from these articles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's looking like that, dude. They're they're they're twitching,
Speaker 2: they're shaking. I'm sorry, but that kind of seems like
Speaker 2: something that you would do if you were starving for
Speaker 2: fucking oxygen trying to survive, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: that's what happens like if you're drowning underwater, or if
Speaker 2: you're you know, if like you mentioned earlier, you you
Speaker 2: park your car in your garage and you keep the
Speaker 2: garage doors down. You just started up and inhale all
Speaker 2: that smoke. It's like, you know, I feel like you're
Speaker 2: going to be twitching and there's gonna be a piece
Speaker 2: of you at if not the whole part of you.
Speaker 2: That is like, what am I doing? Get me out
Speaker 2: of this situation. But by that point you're done. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of that nitrogen has to
Speaker 2: get into your life to really put you to sleep
Speaker 2: for good. I mean they talk about like it takes
Speaker 2: a few minutes to actually die, but you know, you're
Speaker 2: you're passing out so to say before then, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean four minutes with no oxygen to the brain.
Speaker 3: You start to get to the realm of suffering from
Speaker 3: like life altering brain.
Speaker 2: Damage or your brain dead at that point.
Speaker 3: Right, seven eight minutes, like yeah, you're dead and you haven't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. And that's why they
Speaker 3: say it takes like, you know, seven minutes before she
Speaker 3: stopped moving or whatever, whatever the case whatever. I get
Speaker 3: that part fit like scientifically. But this one, all right,
Speaker 3: so this article is written November fourth.
Speaker 2: What's today's date, the seventh ISSU Yeah, the seventh, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So we were reading that one about from September.
Speaker 3: Now we're reading one from November, and we're gonna get
Speaker 3: to the new hot take here in a moment.
Speaker 2: But let's see, all right, the first person who died
Speaker 2: in the so called suicide pod was three unnerving words
Speaker 2: before her death, it has been revealed. So this is
Speaker 2: that sixty four year old woman. Then the same woman, yeah,
Speaker 2: it said. The pod, which had never been used before
Speaker 2: this allows a person inside the device to push a
Speaker 2: button that injects nitrogen gas into the sealed chamber. The
Speaker 2: person inside is then supposed to fall asleep before dying
Speaker 2: by suffocation. Swiss police are now investigating whether foul play
Speaker 2: was involved after the woman's body appeared to have strangulation
Speaker 2: marks on her neck.
Speaker 3: Why here we go, ladies and gentlemen, the suicide pod
Speaker 3: that was supposed to be this super dignified way of
Speaker 3: just going to sleep and all that. Apparently there was
Speaker 3: something else going on with this first patient, the first
Speaker 3: person to ever use it, and all these people got
Speaker 3: arrested immediately after and all of this. There's a little
Speaker 3: bit more to that, as it turns out.
Speaker 2: Well, the president of Sarko's operator, the last resort, doctor
Speaker 2: Florian Willett, was was arrested a lot along with several
Speaker 2: other people nearby. Willet was the only person present when
Speaker 2: the woman died. The inventor of the Sarco, Philip Nitschke,
Speaker 2: followed the process by video call, but was unable to
Speaker 2: catch all of it due to its technical difficulties. As
Speaker 2: the woman approached the capsule, along with doctor Willett, removed
Speaker 2: a green tarp paulin tarpaullium tart tarp okay, a green tarp.
Speaker 2: I did not know that tarp was a short version
Speaker 2: of a longer word. How about that anyway? Doctor Willett
Speaker 2: removed the green tarp covering the pod. If you were
Speaker 2: ready question mark, doctor Willett asked her, According to Dutch
Speaker 2: newspaper something. She responded, do I leave my shoes on?
Speaker 2: Doctor Willett said she could keep them on as long
Speaker 2: as she laid down. He also asked whether she would
Speaker 2: like to speak to doctor Nichke over video call, to
Speaker 2: which she declined, or to which he declined. Doctor Willett,
Speaker 2: who was the only person present, took this as an
Speaker 2: indication that the process could begin, telling Nichke, it seems
Speaker 2: that Blank is ready to go. The woman then closed
Speaker 2: the lid herself and a blue button lit up, indicating
Speaker 2: the pressure inside the capsule. Ready, okay, she said to
Speaker 2: doctor Willett, and what would be her final words? She
Speaker 2: then pressed the button to trigger the process. The woman
Speaker 2: was said to have wanted to die for at least
Speaker 2: two years after suffering a very serious illness that involves
Speaker 2: severe pain. The mother of two began breathing deeply and
Speaker 2: calmly as nitrogen filled the capsule. Keep on breathing, Doctor
Speaker 2: Willett told her the final three unnerving words she likely heard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind a different twist now that there's new information,
Speaker 3: doesn't it will?
Speaker 2: It remains in police custody in Switzerland nearly five weeks
Speaker 2: after the incident. He was the only person present when
Speaker 2: the woman died, describing her death as peaceful, fast and dignified.
Speaker 2: But the Swiss chief prosecutor of the case, Peter Stitcher,
Speaker 2: thinks that the death might have gone quite differently, raising
Speaker 2: suspicions that the woman may have been strangled in a
Speaker 2: case of intentional homicide, reports the Dutch newspaper. The newspaper
Speaker 2: reports that the pod is opened and closed several times
Speaker 2: before the woman presses the button, which triggers the procedure
Speaker 2: to test its closure. A forensic doctor president at the
Speaker 2: scene told the court that the woman had, among other things,
Speaker 2: severe injuries to her neck. According to the news outlet,
Speaker 2: the company president, who was standing beside the woman throughout
Speaker 2: the event, was heard to tell the POD's designer over
Speaker 2: video call, she's still alive, Philip, Oh my god, imagine.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. The comments was peaceful, fast and dignified.
Speaker 2: Oh that doesn't seem like it. The comments came six
Speaker 2: and a half minutes after the user pressed the button
Speaker 2: to end her own life. The president is said to
Speaker 2: have been confused by the sound of an alarm thought
Speaker 2: to be a heart rate monitor. The hear how he
Speaker 2: continued to lean over the SARCO pod to peer inside
Speaker 2: before the alarm ceases. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The woman decided to take her life using the Sarco
Speaker 2: because of a long standing disease. The company said she
Speaker 2: had been diagnosed with skull based osteomylitis. Damn, did I
Speaker 2: just crush that?
Speaker 3: I think you did bro fucking.
Speaker 2: Cross anyway, It's an infection of the bone marrow. She
Speaker 2: said that she had wished to die for at least
Speaker 2: two years. Very serious illness that causes severe pains, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: Due to an immune disorder, the woman was unable to
Speaker 2: receive effective treatment for her osteomylitis, the last resort disclosed.
Speaker 2: After being notified of her death by the two lawyers
Speaker 2: involved in the project and present at the scene, the
Speaker 2: police swept the forest and arrested everyone near the SARCO,
Speaker 2: including a photographer for the newspaper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean pretty much everybody is now guilty until
Speaker 3: proven innocent, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if you're guilty, if if you're
Speaker 2: at the scene of a homicide and you're not trying
Speaker 2: to prevent it, you're not doing anything about it, that
Speaker 2: kind of makes you part of it then, right, and accomplice,
Speaker 2: you'd think, so, yeah, because they had.
Speaker 3: If you were standing by a rape happening but you
Speaker 3: weren't a part of it and you did nothing, are
Speaker 3: you compliant?
Speaker 2: And I guess that would have to be first degree
Speaker 2: as well, because they had prior knowledge and planned on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, premeditated, right, damn? Like I mean, it's it's
Speaker 3: this is why it's one of those crazy ethical questions.
Speaker 3: But now to this next part is where the ethical
Speaker 3: questions just get removed altogether. These people were fucking told, dude,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 2: In September, Chief Prosecutor Stitcher told Swiss newspaper Blick. We
Speaker 2: warned them in writing. We said that if they came
Speaker 2: to Schoffhausen and use SARCO, they would they would face
Speaker 2: criminal consequence. Everyone arrested has since been released, except for
Speaker 2: Willett Volks Grant had. The newspaper has questioned why Stitcher
Speaker 2: has not publicly accused Willet of intentional homicide but has
Speaker 2: been using the suspicion to get judges to extend will
Speaker 2: It's custody. A criminal investigation into the pod is underway,
Speaker 2: and all of the three hundred and seventy one active
Speaker 2: applications have been suspended for use. Okay, so it's actually
Speaker 2: pretty sad known there's three hundred and seventy one people
Speaker 2: that signed up for that shit it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, you should see the number of suicides every
Speaker 3: year around the globe. It's truly heartbreaking. But that being said,
Speaker 3: already she's still alive Philip, and now their strangulation marks
Speaker 3: around their neck, and now there's only one of them
Speaker 3: that has not been released. It's very very, very suspect.
Speaker 3: And all of this shit, all of this was supposed
Speaker 3: to be so peaceful and all of this well, let's
Speaker 3: go ahead and read this one. Actually, this is from
Speaker 3: board panda dot com. I thought that was funny. That's
Speaker 3: why I want to give him a shout out. This
Speaker 3: is actually written and released on Halloween of this year.
Speaker 3: She's still alive. The first person to use euthanasia pod
Speaker 3: found with strangulation marks around her neck.
Speaker 2: A secluded forest near Marishausen, Switzerland, became the center of
Speaker 2: controversy when a so called suicide capsule claimed its first
Speaker 2: life under deeply questionable circumstances. Talking about the sixty four
Speaker 2: year old woman mid She's from the Midwest in the
Speaker 2: United States. It led to multiple arrests after she became
Speaker 2: the first person to use the sarcopod at a high
Speaker 2: tech device, promising a peaceful, dignified end to life.
Speaker 3: Right, no doubt. Now, let's just see these highlights real quick.
Speaker 3: The woman, a US woman, became the first use of
Speaker 3: sarcopod high tech device. We got that. The device. The
Speaker 3: death of the mother of two raised disturbing questions after
Speaker 3: the autopsy reportedly found stringul marks on her neck. Doctor
Speaker 3: Floyd Willett, president the Last Resort the organization, was arrested
Speaker 3: and Exit International was the organization behind the development of
Speaker 3: the one million dollar device. Okay, so those are just
Speaker 3: kind of the key takeaways on that. But what is
Speaker 3: up with these strangulation marks? Right right?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean well, it says that doctor Florian Willett,
Speaker 2: president of the Last Resort, do da da Okay, I
Speaker 2: don't want to keep on reading over what we already read,
Speaker 2: but it says.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to see that. Yeah, strangulation marks on
Speaker 3: a woman's neck.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so it says Exit International is also the
Speaker 2: organization behind the development of the one million dollar device.
Speaker 2: An autopsy reportedly revealed strangulation marks on the woman's neck,
Speaker 2: prompting Schaffhausen's public prosecutor, Peter Stitcher, to broaden the investigation
Speaker 2: to consider the possibility of murder. According to the local
Speaker 2: news outlets, Yeah, well, I tell you what, I guess
Speaker 2: if if the device is not working the way you
Speaker 2: thought it would, but the but the person that's in there,
Speaker 2: in there is already like to the point of no
Speaker 2: coming back. Maybe uh, they're already vegetative. You know, you
Speaker 2: you already lost so much oxygen, you're taken in too
Speaker 2: much nitrogen at that point, but you're still going to live.
Speaker 2: Because maybe it wasn't enough. Maybe there was a cank
Speaker 2: in the hose or something that was you know, given
Speaker 2: the nitrogen or something like that. Maybe they lost electricity.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe imagine a power out long amount
Speaker 2: of nitrogen and it didn't do the job one hundred percent. Dude,
Speaker 2: imagine a power outage in the middle of one of
Speaker 2: these things. You're done.
Speaker 3: I mean it was in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming it.
Speaker 2: Was battery operated or solar maybe a little short circuit.
Speaker 2: Well it I guess if this is the very first time,
Speaker 2: and this guy probably thought that it was a gene
Speaker 2: idea and everybody's going to be using this all across
Speaker 2: the world, and then all of a sudden there's some
Speaker 2: kind of malfunction, something goes wrong whatever and all, and
Speaker 2: also does this kind of sound a little epsteiny? The
Speaker 2: video goes out.
Speaker 3: And he already said in the beginning, Remember that was
Speaker 3: from September. The guy that was trying to video call
Speaker 3: in said that the footage was already kind of greeny,
Speaker 3: it was scattered whatever. Now that the strangle thing has
Speaker 3: come out, Oh well, I didn't see that. My video
Speaker 3: feed wasn't the best and blah blah, bob. He was
Speaker 3: already kind of putting distance on himself before this came out.
Speaker 3: I wonder if he knew that this was happening, and
Speaker 3: so he already deleted the videos and was like, oops, yeah, bro,
Speaker 3: I don't really know what I even saw. Like, truthfully,
Speaker 3: I wasn't even there, you know. I it's interesting how
Speaker 3: that kind of lined up with the rest of this.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: Now look at this LBC reported that about six and
Speaker 3: a half minutes after the American woman pressed the button
Speaker 3: to end her life, doctor Florian told the Posita designer
Speaker 3: over video call, she still alive, Philip. Both groups, the
Speaker 3: Last Resort and Exit International, released a joint statement on
Speaker 3: Tuesday denying the claims of the injuries on the woman's neck.
Speaker 3: The Last Resort and Exit International maintained that the SARCO
Speaker 3: worked precisely as planned and the user died peacefully from
Speaker 3: nitrogen hype hypoxia. Read the statement, the allegations of the
Speaker 3: of in their intentional homicide are ridiculous and absurd. The
Speaker 3: Last Resort and Exit International strongly reject these allegations. Bro,
Speaker 3: So they're already acknowledging that the OK, yeah it looks
Speaker 3: like she strangled, and yeah, in the video we said
Speaker 3: she's still alive. But it totally wasn't us.
Speaker 2: Dog dude, there could have been. And I don't mean
Speaker 2: to make a joke out of this, because this is
Speaker 2: obviously a fucked up thing that's going on. But like
Speaker 2: sometimes whenever you name something something with you know, like
Speaker 2: whatever pertains to like all right, for example, in that
Speaker 2: uh in that political uh rape show that we did
Speaker 2: the other day. You know, there was a person on
Speaker 2: there who was raping children whose last name was child, right,
Speaker 2: so it might have been like a foreshadowing, a precursor
Speaker 2: or whatever. Right, But then you look over here at
Speaker 2: last Resort and it's like, you know, it just makes
Speaker 2: me think of cutting my life into pieces. That's kind
Speaker 2: of I mean, you had to strangle this person, you know,
Speaker 2: to really kill her, so that.
Speaker 3: Wasn't supposed to happen. But apparently the device worked exactly
Speaker 3: as intended. Even though the video said clearly and everybody's
Speaker 3: agreeing on this, she's still alive, Philip, Like, okay, next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, their strangulation marks, and it's like y'all are
Speaker 3: trying to deny this when y'all have cameras on her,
Speaker 3: and didn't y'all get her approved by like certain psychiatric
Speaker 3: people before she stepped in to clear any chance of
Speaker 3: like this. She was depressed and she wasn't right, she
Speaker 3: was no, no, no, y'all got her totally cleared hot,
Speaker 3: and no one noticed any marks on her neck before
Speaker 3: she got in the pod went unnoticed before she commits suicide,
Speaker 3: that would be a red flag.
Speaker 2: Maybe now I know that we're heading towards a possible
Speaker 2: golden age, and there's gonna be lots of innovation. Everything's
Speaker 2: going to be very advanced, you know, eventually at some
Speaker 2: point and maybe this does become a thing at some
Speaker 2: point in the future, whenever there aren't fucking idiots that
Speaker 2: are just trying to make a buck because of their
Speaker 2: grand idea and hopes that like that this is going
Speaker 2: to be awesome, but then it doesn't work, so all
Speaker 2: we got to hurry up and strangle her and make
Speaker 2: sure she dies. It's like, maybe it's not the time
Speaker 2: for this yet, you know what I'm saying, Like if
Speaker 2: there is going to be a time, right.
Speaker 3: Maybe never, Like maybe, like hey, never kill yourself. Like
Speaker 3: if you're listening to this podcast right now, Hey, listen,
Speaker 3: somebody loves you, and somebody doesn't want to go to
Speaker 3: your funeral. Yo, keep on trucking. Do not do it,
Speaker 3: Like there's so much to live for, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Dude?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, dude. This whole thing is just
Speaker 2: really fucking sadistic.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: It is, But the fact that this is trying to
Speaker 3: be pushed and that it was an American woman, some
Speaker 3: Midwestern just a some nobody, a mother of two. That's
Speaker 3: all we got. Sixty four years old, that's all they're saying.
Speaker 3: She was suffering from apparently allegedly a bone infection or
Speaker 3: a bone cancer if you will, bow marrow, and she
Speaker 3: was in a lot of pain. She wanted to die
Speaker 3: all this, but then six and a half minutes into it,
Speaker 3: whenever it was only supposed to go for only a
Speaker 3: few she's still alive. Then they're strangle marks. Go ahead
Speaker 3: and keep reading this one dog.
Speaker 2: The group maintains that the recorded film footage from two cameras,
Speaker 2: one inside and one outside the euthanasia pod, captured the
Speaker 2: woman entering the pod without any assistance. The woman closed
Speaker 2: the lid of the SARCO unaided. The woman pressed the
Speaker 2: internal activation button herself. The lid of the SARCO was
Speaker 2: not opened until forensic staff arrived at the scene of
Speaker 2: the SARCO at nineteen twenty two, so seven twenty two
Speaker 2: in the on September twenty third, twenty twenty four. Furthermore,
Speaker 2: the level of oxygen was recorded and can be shown
Speaker 2: to have remained at lethal levels within the capsule until
Speaker 2: well after the woman had died. Oh okay, why would
Speaker 2: you need to strangle her?
Speaker 3: Then, yeah, what did huh?
Speaker 2: You know what's even sketchier, Like I didn't even think
Speaker 2: about it until now, But what if what if she
Speaker 2: was trying to assist that, what if she was strangling herself?
Speaker 3: I feel like they would mention that if she wasn't psychotic, right,
Speaker 3: they said that she was mentally completely sound minded. There's
Speaker 3: no way that she could have squeezed her own neck
Speaker 3: hard enough to make bruises like that, There's no way.
Speaker 2: I guess so. And also inflicting that kind of pain
Speaker 2: strangling yourself. It's like, you know that like our our jaw,
Speaker 2: our jaw muscles and our teeth are strong enough to
Speaker 2: like bite through our finger, like the bone everything, but
Speaker 2: we just obviously we don't, but like to strangle yourself.
Speaker 2: That's you're not gonna do that. I don't think. No,
Speaker 2: you're not, and you're not gonna be leaving those kind
Speaker 2: of marks on your neck. If you are, like I
Speaker 2: feel like you're gonna be at least a little you know,
Speaker 2: a less bullshit masochistic towards it.
Speaker 3: It's absolute bullshit. Somebody is lying at some point of this,
Speaker 3: either A they're lying that she wasn't mentally you know,
Speaker 3: all good to go. B they're lying about who killed
Speaker 3: her or see, because that other report said that the
Speaker 3: machine's door had been opened and closed a few times.
Speaker 3: Now they're saying that the door was closed and it
Speaker 3: hadn't wasn't open until it was all done. Something is
Speaker 3: not right here. But either way, the strangled lady is
Speaker 3: still dead.
Speaker 2: Right right. And I was also just thinking too, it's
Speaker 2: if she had strangled herself, why would the people that
Speaker 2: were there watching it withhold that kind of information, you know, right?
Speaker 3: That would be kind of something that needs to go
Speaker 3: in the report.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I imagine if she went into it with
Speaker 2: you know, the marks on her neck already, there might
Speaker 2: have been questions as far as her mental stability goes. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: But I don't know. These people don't exactly seem ethical
Speaker 2: to me, so they might have just let that go anyway.
Speaker 3: Or strangled her. So their ethics are all the way
Speaker 3: out the window, because this is their first time. They're
Speaker 3: made in voyage, and if something goes wrong, they'll never
Speaker 3: get funding or anything ever again, and they're getting arrested,
Speaker 3: so they're gonna make sure it gets successfully done one
Speaker 3: way or another dot dot dot.
Speaker 2: It seems like it. Yeah, it definitely seems like there's
Speaker 2: some sketchy shit going on here. And uh yeah, don't
Speaker 2: sign up for the fucking suicide pod. Just don't do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, look here, bro. The Last Resort previously told
Speaker 3: The Daily Mail that around one hundred and twenty applicants
Speaker 3: wished to use the Sarco to bring their lives to
Speaker 3: an end. However, usage of the Sarco pod was suspended
Speaker 3: as the investment destigation into the first user's death is
Speaker 3: currently underway. So you know, it's just one of those things.
Speaker 3: It's wild. It's wild. Time to be alive. And so
Speaker 3: now let's go ahead and read or hear read let's
Speaker 3: hear this sun little video about this whole situation. Bro,
Speaker 3: This is this is kind of crazy.
Speaker 9: The first woman to die inside a controversial suicide pod
Speaker 9: was allegedly found with strangulation marks on her neck. The
Speaker 9: sixty four year old American citizen ended her life in
Speaker 9: September with the help of an assisted dying group, which
Speaker 9: presented the band Sacropod in Zurich earlier this year, but
Speaker 9: a leading prosecutor probing the case has alleged that her
Speaker 9: death is manslaughter after a forensic expert found injuries near
Speaker 9: her neck that appeared similar to strangulation marks. The anonymous
Speaker 9: woman was reportedly terminally ill and had been dying for
Speaker 9: two years. She was diagnosed with osteomylitis, a disease that
Speaker 9: could have been manifested the alleged injury marks on her
Speaker 9: neck at the time of her death. Local media said
Speaker 9: the woman traveled to Switzerland specifically to use the suicide capsule,
Speaker 9: but her death has now raised a host of legal
Speaker 9: and ethical questions. In Switzerland, where active euthanasia is banned
Speaker 9: but assisted dying has been legal for decades. Corps have
Speaker 9: now arrested doctor Florian Willett, the president of the Last
Speaker 9: Resort organization who assisted the woman to end her life.
Speaker 9: He is said to be the only person present when
Speaker 9: the woman ended her life. Peter Stitcher, a chief prosecutor
Speaker 9: investigating the death of the woman, has now raised suspicions
Speaker 9: of international homicide after alleging she was strangulated to death.
Speaker 9: He has demanded a court order to extend will It's custody. However,
Speaker 9: there is no official autopsy report to support the claim,
Speaker 9: and Stitches has not yet publicly accused last resort's boss
Speaker 9: of international homicide. The prosecute rushed to the crime scene
Speaker 9: with a large grip of cops and forensic experts. Together,
Speaker 9: they arrested two lawyers providing legal assistance to the organization
Speaker 9: and a Dutch journalist alongside with it. Stitcher said the
Speaker 9: arrests were made to make sure they were not colluding
Speaker 9: with each other or covering up the evidence. They were
Speaker 9: told they were being suspected of inciting suicide and providing
Speaker 9: suicide assistance. Switzerland's Interior Minister Elizabeth Schneider said the controversial
Speaker 9: suicide pod is not compliant with the Swiss laws. Around
Speaker 9: twelve fifty people ended their lives using assisted suicide in
Speaker 9: Switzerland last year, but assisted suicide and euthenasia are illegal
Speaker 9: in the UK.
Speaker 4: Well, so the prosecutors in Switzerland. They have opened criminal
Speaker 4: proceedings against several members. We don't know exact names or
Speaker 4: who they are, but it's all related to a first
Speaker 4: assisted suicide case of what's believed to be in America.
Speaker 4: The cases believed to be of an American woman who
Speaker 4: died with assisted suicide with this capsule called this Sarco
Speaker 4: suicide capsule. This will happened in September, and there is
Speaker 4: some controversial controversy in this case. First of all, recently
Speaker 4: the prosecutors have found some strangulation marks on her next,
Speaker 4: so this could really steer the investigation into kind of
Speaker 4: international homicide direction. Well, there are several proceedings of these
Speaker 4: individuals who are suspected of insight in suicide and assist
Speaker 4: in suicide. It's called the Sarco suicide cupsule or the
Speaker 4: Sarco part and it was invented by euthanasia campaigner Philip
Speaker 4: Nichtke in twenty seventeen. So what happens is that the
Speaker 4: company receives applications and the applicant then receives once they
Speaker 4: pass a mental health test on line, they receive a
Speaker 4: code which is valid for twenty four hours to access
Speaker 4: this pot, and this pot can be transported to different
Speaker 4: locations according to where the applicant wishes to end their lives.
Speaker 4: Then the person uses this code to enter the capsule,
Speaker 4: goes inside and then presses the button and this activates.
Speaker 4: How it works is that the capsule rapidly decreases the
Speaker 4: level of oxygen inside and quickly fills it with nitrogen
Speaker 4: and so then the user is meant to first of
Speaker 4: all feel dizzy and then lose consciousness and then eventually die. Well,
Speaker 4: we've heard from the soccer's inventor. He was actually speaking
Speaker 4: regarding directly that the death of the American woman. He
Speaker 4: actually said that, well, her death went well, and that
Speaker 4: he apparently followed her death via video link. And he
Speaker 4: said that she entered the pod, pressed the button very quickly.
Speaker 4: She didn't. It took her a few minutes to do that.
Speaker 4: Then she lost consciousness after about two minutes to be inside,
Speaker 4: and then she died after about five minutes. And the
Speaker 4: inventor said, quote, it looked exactly how we expected it to.
Speaker 3: Look five minutes. Even those six and a half minutes,
Speaker 3: she's still alive, Philip. But you know whatever, And how
Speaker 3: about the quote on there on the capsule itself, we
Speaker 3: are made of star stuff. We are away for the
Speaker 3: universe to know itself. It's a Carl second quote. Interesting,
Speaker 3: you know you're not being shot up.
Speaker 2: Into the fucking universe. No, I don't know why that
Speaker 2: sentence is even on there.
Speaker 3: It was in Zurich, dude, that we were showcased in
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, in Zurich.
Speaker 2: Oh, of course, it was just throwing.
Speaker 3: Out a world economic m isn't that where it's at?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, yeah, these people, they know you think, you know.
Speaker 3: If rather to reduce the world's population by ten percent.
Speaker 2: Right, No, you're thinking of Davos.
Speaker 3: Ah, shit, my bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're right. But yet that's what a shitty way
Speaker 2: to go, dude, especially if she's strangled. But I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it does make sense though, if you really think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to include the world's elites,
Speaker 2: you want to include Bill Gates, get rid of what
Speaker 2: is it, ten percent of the people in the world
Speaker 2: through the use of vaccines within the next ten years
Speaker 2: or whatever it was. It's like, you know, these people
Speaker 2: want to kill off as many people as humanly possible
Speaker 2: in the name of carbon. I don't think it's I
Speaker 2: think that that's actually a facade personally, Like I think
Speaker 2: the whole carbon shit. Did you know, dude, the amount
Speaker 2: of carbon that is on this planet right now has
Speaker 2: always been the same, will always be the same. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So why are we so worried about it?
Speaker 3: You know, the carbon cycle the same way like the
Speaker 3: water cycle. Like, yeah, dude, that's a real thing that
Speaker 3: for some reason, all of these geniuses just like ignore,
Speaker 3: I don't get it, I don't I just love killing
Speaker 3: people for no fucking reason, dude.
Speaker 2: It's like, for some reason, once you get to be
Speaker 2: that that level of wealthy that you don't even really
Speaker 2: need to wake up and go to work, it's like
Speaker 2: for some reason, like they're just getting off to this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And then especially you find out that
Speaker 2: Epstein was on the flight logs that's why his wife
Speaker 2: left them, And it's like, all right, well, yes, there
Speaker 2: was absolutely you know, some some underage raping going on
Speaker 2: over at Epstein Island, but we've we've brought it up before,
Speaker 2: like is that I mean, not that that's harmless by
Speaker 2: any means, but I can't imagine that's all that was
Speaker 2: going on. I mean, there was different levels to that
Speaker 2: whole island. I mean, there was who knows.
Speaker 3: What's called on temple dog right? Why was there a temple?
Speaker 3: No reason any anybody want to explain that, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: well it was just you know, it was just pedophilic.
Speaker 3: It wasn't satanic, there wasn't any kind of ritual there was.
Speaker 3: Why was there a temple on Epstein island. Also what
Speaker 3: it was used for? What the island was used for? Y'all.
Speaker 3: Let y'all's imaginations answer that one for you, because I
Speaker 3: already know what's up.
Speaker 2: Also, they're calling this they said that, didn't They say
Speaker 2: that it was a million dollars to make these things?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Three D printable bro, all right.
Speaker 2: So it's a million dollars to make it. And I
Speaker 2: can't imagine that that woman paid a million dollars to
Speaker 2: have this process done. And correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: A sarcophagus is only used once, is not used multiple times.
Speaker 2: So what exactly is happening to this body once? Once
Speaker 2: she dies?
Speaker 3: Well, she had specific instructions on what she wanted her
Speaker 3: kids to do with the body, but neither here nor there, Dude.
Speaker 3: They're trying to turn people into mulch. There's a whole
Speaker 3: conspiracy around this whole thing about like if there was
Speaker 3: some sort of mass u pandemic, plandemic whatever where they
Speaker 3: need to get rid of a bunch of bodies really quickly,
Speaker 3: they could actually start using it to make more land.
Speaker 3: Think of like what's going on in guitar right now
Speaker 3: with the whole sand thing, Dude, they could be using
Speaker 3: people to fix erosion problems, and shit.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're already finding ways for us not to
Speaker 2: have a use for trees anymore by burying them. Who's
Speaker 2: to say this catches fire and they're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 2: it's really starting to look pretty damn good. Maybe we
Speaker 2: should start killing more people like this, And then what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen is is that instead of putting people in jail.
Speaker 2: I mean, trust me, I'd be the first person to
Speaker 2: sign up a fucking pedophile for this kind of treatment.
Speaker 2: But imagine, well not for her.
Speaker 3: Well see that's the thing, bro, This is supposed to
Speaker 3: be a whole new industry, a whole new thing, and
Speaker 3: they're already saying like, oh, it didn't work as intended.
Speaker 3: Y'all had to strangle her to make sure that she
Speaker 3: died so that y'all could make sure Boss Man was
Speaker 3: happy with the results of this. Because everything was writing
Speaker 3: on this one experiment that y'all were illegally doing. Y'all
Speaker 3: were told in September that if y'all did this, they
Speaker 3: wrote it to you, so you can't say you didn't
Speaker 3: get the memo it. Y'all knew that if y'all went
Speaker 3: through with this, y'all would be facing legal charges. And
Speaker 3: you did it anyway, and now come to find out,
Speaker 3: y'all probably all need to be in jail for other
Speaker 3: reasons too, like you know, not just on an accessory
Speaker 3: to self murder, but kind of premeditated and murder in
Speaker 3: the first degree.
Speaker 2: I mean, to do it even though you were told
Speaker 2: not to. So either they don't fear the law they
Speaker 2: thought that they were going to get away with it.
Speaker 2: But I can't imagine they thought they were going to
Speaker 2: get away with it. I mean, this is something if
Speaker 2: it actually went really well, it would be a really
Speaker 2: good marketing point for them. But and also the the
Speaker 2: fact that the fact that they had to lie about
Speaker 2: the strangulation, the fact that there was a quote that
Speaker 2: I think she's still breathing, Philip. It's like, ah, this
Speaker 2: whole thing is just not tell what they were hoping.
Speaker 3: The juice was worth the squeeze for them. This is
Speaker 3: how corporate espionage type things actually happened. Dude. The company
Speaker 3: is making enough money to where four people going to
Speaker 3: jail was worth it to them. And it's not like
Speaker 3: they just hung them out to dry. They're gonna swiss
Speaker 3: jail dude, we would call that like a four star
Speaker 3: hotel in America. I'm just gonna be real with you,
Speaker 3: and they're gonna get bailed out. They're gonna get good
Speaker 3: lawyers on this. The company was was quote unquote slated
Speaker 3: to be the next big thing as far as this
Speaker 3: is concerned, and they were gonna make a truckloads, so
Speaker 3: it didn't matter. They could pay some quart costs. Just
Speaker 3: chalk it up to the game. However, now they're showing that,
Speaker 3: oh they're money maker, didn't work as expected, and now
Speaker 3: they this whole thing is going to hell in a handbasket. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, I mean, I hope they get what's coming to them,
Speaker 2: you know, Like I hope that they all end up
Speaker 2: locked up in jail and it should be labeled as
Speaker 2: a homicide that which means that they should Well, if
Speaker 2: it's first degree, then you're probably looking at twenty five
Speaker 2: to life, I would imagine, right.
Speaker 3: I don't know how Switzerland's laws gets down. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know that Europe is very lenient on a lot
Speaker 3: of laws and then they're super hard on others. It's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, this is also New territory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so all right, well, I guess we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens. It's still very recent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this just kind of shook out, which is why
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, with everything going on in this
Speaker 3: world right now, I think it's important for us to remember,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean that, like, hey, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be fine, y'all. It's all gonna be good, I promise you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they're already trying to find new ways for
Speaker 3: us to get rid of the box. Do you remember
Speaker 3: before COVID, Actually I want to say it was Alex
Speaker 3: Jones that found the big field full of those plastic coffins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for whenever COVID was going down.
Speaker 3: And those were biodegradable coffins that they just left out
Speaker 3: in a field uncovered. So the rain has gotten to
Speaker 3: them and they're all just like decomposing now, but neither
Speaker 3: here nor there. When they were stockpiling those coffins, people
Speaker 3: were asking why now they're coming up with new ways
Speaker 3: for assisted suicide. Canada actually legally will let you do
Speaker 3: assisted suicide as well, and online they give you two options.
Speaker 3: They were now talking about bringing the Sarco pod to
Speaker 3: Canada that was about to make its way to North America.
Speaker 3: That was an American woman that was strangled to death.
Speaker 2: Oh it'sh shit, all right. So I just found the
Speaker 2: laws about how it breaks down over in Switzerland. So
Speaker 2: they haven't broken down into separate categories a little bit
Speaker 2: different than what we're used to seeing. Well, the first one,
Speaker 2: which is intentional homicide. It says this crime occurs when
Speaker 2: a person intentionally behaves in such a way that causes
Speaker 2: the death of another person. It is classified as a
Speaker 2: felony and is punishable by at least five years imprisonment.
Speaker 2: Then you have.
Speaker 3: Then you have.
Speaker 2: Murder, which they call moord. It says is a lex
Speaker 2: specialist of Article eleven or one to eleven and envisages
Speaker 2: a situation where a person has intentionally caused the death
Speaker 2: of another person with either a with either particular cruelty
Speaker 2: or an odious motive or goal, and they can go
Speaker 2: to jail. That's life imprisonment and or by a sentence
Speaker 2: not under ten years. Murder is a felony. Then you
Speaker 2: have manslaughter. But check this one out. Homicide at the
Speaker 2: request of the victim, which I think is what we're
Speaker 2: talking about here, could be. It says a person who
Speaker 2: upon the request by the victim intentionally causes a mercy killing,
Speaker 2: it says, it's punishable by a term of imprisonment not
Speaker 2: exceeding three years or a fine. So homicide of the
Speaker 2: request of a victim is a misdemeanor. So Switzerland suicide, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I guess the way you would bypass that is
Speaker 3: if you are a licensed medical professional who is authorized
Speaker 3: to administer the injection or whatever the case would be.
Speaker 3: So like you have the state license to do that.
Speaker 3: But if you're not and you kill somebody because they
Speaker 3: ask you to, even if it's a mercy killing, it
Speaker 3: could be three years in prison or a fine, depending
Speaker 3: on the situation and the judge wow or the magistrate.
Speaker 3: I guess what they call them. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the one homicide of the request of the victim.
Speaker 2: But then the next one gets into inciting and a
Speaker 2: assisting suicide. It says, this one punishes a person who
Speaker 2: intentionally and for an immoral motive, insights or assists a
Speaker 2: person to commit suicide. The victim's attempt must not necessarily
Speaker 2: be successful in order for Article one fifteen to be invoked.
Speaker 2: It is classified as a felony and punishable by a
Speaker 2: term of imprisonment not exceeding five years or a fine.
Speaker 3: Okay. So like, if you're online bullying somebody to kill
Speaker 3: themselves and all that shit, and then they finally do it, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a crime.
Speaker 2: Oh is that what they mean? Okay? So yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess it would be homicide at the request of the
Speaker 2: victim then, which would give them not exceeding three years
Speaker 2: or a fine.
Speaker 3: But that would be if it was homicide by the
Speaker 3: means agreed upon In all of that, she didn't agree
Speaker 3: to be strangled to death, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is probably where you're looking at.
Speaker 3: And Ai was already witing to stamp in and be like,
Speaker 3: oh dude, just put an Ai body into that and
Speaker 3: you don't even have to have anybody around her. We
Speaker 3: already got to fix and we need to teach Ai
Speaker 3: how to make people kill themselves. That's something that it
Speaker 3: needs to learn.
Speaker 2: Sure, dude, listen to some of these like how their
Speaker 2: laws are so different than ours. So manslaughter it says
Speaker 2: it criminalizes the intentional homicide committed by a person in
Speaker 2: an emotional state, which a rational person would not regard
Speaker 2: as being overly excessive given the circumstances, which is classified
Speaker 2: as a murder of passion. The law reads where the
Speaker 2: offender acts in a state of extreme emotion that is
Speaker 2: or that is excusable in the circumstances, or in a
Speaker 2: state of profound psychological stress. The penalty is a custodial
Speaker 2: sentence from one to ten years. Okay, a passion murder,
Speaker 2: A murder of passion, you ain't gonna that is, I
Speaker 2: don't know. That's a weird way of putting it.
Speaker 3: Well, that that's a legal term to mean, like in
Speaker 3: a frenzy kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I suppose. But then yeah, so they have the murder,
Speaker 2: which is a sentence not under ten years, and then
Speaker 2: you have intentional homicide, which is uh five years at
Speaker 2: least five years imprisonment, which would be intentional homicides. So
Speaker 2: they're looking at what, from our guestimations here, at least
Speaker 2: five years. Then if the strangulation is found to be
Speaker 2: by them, if it's not found to be by them,
Speaker 2: then they're looking at.
Speaker 3: Least three I would argue it'd be murder, you think,
Speaker 3: So what's the definition for murder?
Speaker 2: It says it's a situation where a person has intentionally
Speaker 2: caused the death of another person with either particular cruelty
Speaker 2: or an odious motive or goal.
Speaker 3: I would argue that strangulation is a bit aggressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she not agree, right, but she had signed up
Speaker 2: to die that day, but.
Speaker 3: Not by strangulation. She agreed to take a long nap
Speaker 3: that she never wakes up from. She didn't agree to
Speaker 3: be fucking choked out by physical means to the point
Speaker 3: that it left bruising. Dude, like, you could have just
Speaker 3: covered her fucking nose and mouth, Like, I don't understand
Speaker 3: why people are so fucking stupid, dude, to suffocate somebody.
Speaker 3: Why would you go for the neck? That makes no
Speaker 3: anatomical fucking sense. You would go for the nose and
Speaker 3: around the mouth. Tadah. I'm not trying to teach anybody
Speaker 3: how to do something bad, but like, holy fuck, what
Speaker 3: kind of movies do people watch? That's how you know,
Speaker 3: with somebody who didn't know what they were doing. The guy,
Speaker 3: the only one present, right, was the creator. He had
Speaker 3: never done something like this. He just three D printed
Speaker 3: a fucking killbot. So he did what he saw in
Speaker 3: movies and the the job was accomplished. Yeah, but now
Speaker 3: he's in jail and possibly for murder.
Speaker 2: I feel like a pillow would be the same way too, right, Yes,
Speaker 2: just take a pillow.
Speaker 3: Suffocation it's it's not like a difficult concept. It takes
Speaker 3: a while depending on how well the person can hold
Speaker 3: her breath. That's about it.
Speaker 2: Suffocation, no breathing. It's all going back to the same
Speaker 2: song as why as last resort it makes I don't
Speaker 2: I don't like that it. It weirdly lines up with that,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I guess it's a little poetic it is.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, that song, yeah, it hits
Speaker 3: a little different. A lot of those songs from when
Speaker 3: we were younger hit different now that we're older. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be honest with you. Uh scars hmm, that song
Speaker 3: hits different as an adult.
Speaker 2: Ah. Yeah, I mean all the pretty much all the
Speaker 2: Lincoln Bark songs too.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, you ain't lion, you know.
Speaker 2: You know. It's just a different, different way of looking
Speaker 2: at it, you know. And I'm I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm different for this, But whenever I was a little kid,
Speaker 2: I really never paid attention to the lyrics. Like I
Speaker 2: remembered the lyrics, but I never like, you know, put
Speaker 2: it into a like a meaningful way. It was just like,
Speaker 2: you know, I said, the lyrics because they matched with
Speaker 2: the rhythm. You know, I think I more so paid
Speaker 2: attention to the rhythm, and then the lyrics were kind
Speaker 2: of secondary.
Speaker 3: It was a little bit of both for me. Don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong. I think I had the lyrics to
Speaker 3: some songs to where I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: it was like poetry with music behind it. Then there
Speaker 3: was other songs that it was just for the beat,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it was just whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they depend on the timing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so probably, But I mean it just
Speaker 2: goes to show the level of hypnosis that goes on
Speaker 2: with certain music. You know, it's a little hypnotics.
Speaker 3: But now, Jonathan, as of you and I are conspiracy theorist,
Speaker 3: Let's let's hypoth the side as you and I, let's theorize.
Speaker 3: What do you think could be the overarching theme here?
Speaker 3: We got different companies coming out trying to find new
Speaker 3: and innovative ways to get rid of dead people because
Speaker 3: apparently we're running out of places to put them. Then
Speaker 3: we have this company that is trying to launch the
Speaker 3: suicide pod. And you understand that once it's been attempted,
Speaker 3: there will be others. It will be duplicated, it will
Speaker 3: be replicated. The Chinese will come in with something at
Speaker 3: tenth the price. It's gonna be a thing people are
Speaker 3: going to go through. Such about a depression around the world,
Speaker 3: or at least they were thinking that they were about to.
Speaker 3: And again, I'm hoping that we are on the precipice
Speaker 3: of a golden age, not just in America but around
Speaker 3: the world. But this would have been something that would
Speaker 3: have prepped the world for the worst outcome. What are
Speaker 3: your thoughts, bro, What do you think they're trying to push?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at this other article right now by
Speaker 2: Business Standard dot com and it questions did the suicide
Speaker 2: pod mouth function? The strangulation marks raise uh raise alarms
Speaker 2: in the Swiss case. So I think that that's probably
Speaker 2: most likely what happened. I think that there was some
Speaker 2: kind of malfunction that was going on and and they
Speaker 2: were trying to cover their ass. And I mean, if
Speaker 2: you think about it, they're the ones that are in
Speaker 2: control of the body. Now, I don't know what the
Speaker 2: laws are over there. Did the police have to be present,
Speaker 2: you know, at not necessarily during the process of the
Speaker 2: the like the fucking you know, loss of breath or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I mean for the body itself. I don't know
Speaker 2: how those laws work like, but I feel like if
Speaker 2: they're the ones that are absolutely in control of the
Speaker 2: body after they after it dies, you just have to
Speaker 2: throw a little makeup or some shit on there. I
Speaker 2: guess I don't know, but I think that either way
Speaker 2: you're looking at it, I think that probably malfunction. They
Speaker 2: tried to kill her, you know, and tried to cover
Speaker 2: their tracks and got caught.
Speaker 3: But that's the other thing too, Bro. We'll see if
Speaker 3: they actually serve time for this or not, because and
Speaker 3: if the company exists after this, Because this is the
Speaker 3: type of thing that kills a new company. Dude, your
Speaker 3: first time with your first brand new product, and you're
Speaker 3: making all these promises and you have a catastrophic malfunction
Speaker 3: that you had to finish the job with your own
Speaker 3: bare hands. Dude, I'm just saying, like, Okay, it would
Speaker 3: be shocking to me if this company still existed in
Speaker 3: two or three years. But also because we've seen dumb
Speaker 3: shit happen before, dude, watch them bounce back from this,
Speaker 3: watch them come out with a version two point zero,
Speaker 3: and it get mass produced or some wild shit, or
Speaker 3: somebody takes this idea and takes the ball and runs
Speaker 3: with it and creates some other stuff like this is
Speaker 3: I feel like this is the start. This is the
Speaker 3: beginning of a snowball rolling downhill that I don't want
Speaker 3: to see get bigger. But I also feel like it
Speaker 3: can't be stopped.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it was probably a little
Speaker 2: too soon for a gash chamber. Is that just me?
Speaker 3: Well, Futurama made a joke about this. As a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, they came out with the suicide pod for
Speaker 3: twenty five cents or whatever, and there was a whole thing.
Speaker 3: I tried watching the YouTube video on it. I depressed,
Speaker 3: like ok to three different times, saying that like, yes,
Speaker 3: I understand its sensitive material, Yes, I understand it may
Speaker 3: be trigger triggering, Yes I give consent, Yes I want
Speaker 3: to watch it. Anyway, it was like, holy fuck, it's
Speaker 3: a Futurama clip that's like a minute and a half long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's why we're not on YouTube because we
Speaker 2: ain't dealing with that bullshit.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're shills.
Speaker 2: Where they Yeah anyway, yeah we're not shills. We say
Speaker 2: bad words, we have thoughts and opinions that go against
Speaker 2: the narrative, and we highlight certain things that they probably
Speaker 2: don't want us highlighting. So indeed not sull like.
Speaker 3: All right, what are your thoughts on the whole what
Speaker 3: they're trying to do with human bodies? Because my brain
Speaker 3: goes to a lot of conspiratorial levels on that. What
Speaker 3: are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Let me think, Well, I think that this is probably
Speaker 2: just another way to because they were mentioning about how
Speaker 2: it was the green way, you know, it's like more.
Speaker 3: For agricultural right right, And.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think that that that could be
Speaker 2: the start of like some tip of the iceberg kind
Speaker 2: of shit to where you know, well, look, the land
Speaker 2: is is malnourished and the only thing that can bring
Speaker 2: it back to life is human bodies. And so maybe
Speaker 2: we could be getting to a point where this you
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have the option of whether you want to
Speaker 2: be cremated or buried. Maybe maybe it's forcefully laid upon
Speaker 2: you that you go through a wood chipper, or that
Speaker 2: you get into a decomposition, you know, pod or whatever.
Speaker 2: But honestly, I'm not evenna lie to you, dude. Like
Speaker 2: I've said before, I really could give two shit's less, Like, yes,
Speaker 2: I I have you know, if it's up to me, yes,
Speaker 2: send me on the Viking sendoff. But to be one
Speaker 2: hundred percent honest, do whatever the fuck you want to
Speaker 2: my body whenever I'm done.
Speaker 3: Yeah. At one point in time, I thought like being
Speaker 3: buried at Arlington would be dope. But then I thought
Speaker 3: about it, and I'm like, nah, there's other dudes that
Speaker 3: would much rather deserve a spot there than me, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Guys that did like crazy shit
Speaker 3: with their careers, not a shit bag like my job was,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a military thing. Arlington.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Arlington National Cemeteries for you know, people who served,
Speaker 3: either died overseas or died served honorably. They get a
Speaker 3: spot there as well. I could get buried there, but
Speaker 3: I mean they're running out of spots. There's only so
Speaker 3: much land, And there's other dudes that like serve that
Speaker 3: I believe deserve a spot there, way above me, you know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's I marched over a thousand funerals, dude, Damn. Yeah. Literally,
Speaker 3: I was a part of over one thousand funerals at Arlington.
Speaker 2: In Texas.
Speaker 3: Arlington National Cemetery in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, yeah, like.
Speaker 3: The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier where JFK's eternal flame
Speaker 3: is at Arlington.
Speaker 2: You know so much more about that kind of stuff
Speaker 2: than I do. I was assuming that we were talking
Speaker 2: about Arlington, Texas.
Speaker 3: No, hold on you. Have you ever seen a picture
Speaker 3: of Arlington National Cemetery.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a bunch of white tombstones, like for Miles.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You always see it in
Speaker 2: the movies. And what's the movie I'm thinking of that
Speaker 2: I saw it in.
Speaker 3: I don't know. There's a bunch. There's a bunch you're
Speaker 3: probably thinking of. It's it's popular in a lot. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's something that like at one point I thought
Speaker 3: would be cool, but then I was like, nah, like whatever,
Speaker 3: So then I have there's a cemetery on the other
Speaker 3: side of the river where my family has traditionally been
Speaker 3: buried for shit, going on one hundred and fifty years now,
Speaker 3: and that would be cool, except that's like the other
Speaker 3: side of my family than I don't don't really know.
Speaker 3: That's like second, third, fourth cousins and shit. So it's whatever.
Speaker 3: Then I thought about them, like cremation, like either a
Speaker 3: I could buy land and like start my own family plot,
Speaker 3: which is cool. That would be cool. But then it's like,
Speaker 3: I mean, is it that that seems like now I
Speaker 3: have to like commit upkeep to generations of people and
Speaker 3: all of this, and like, dude, at that point, I
Speaker 3: don't care. I just don't care. Just let's do cremation
Speaker 3: for myself. That was my thing.
Speaker 2: I think that's more for the sentimental reasons, you know,
Speaker 2: than anything else. Like, do I think that if you
Speaker 2: get buried next to a person in a cemetery that
Speaker 2: your soul and their soul is going to be connected
Speaker 2: in the afterlife?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: I I get why people want to do that and
Speaker 3: have that peace of mind that when they die they'll
Speaker 3: be with their loved one, and like whatever, I don't
Speaker 3: think it works that way. But I'm also not going
Speaker 3: to get in the way of somebody having that peace
Speaker 3: while they're alive, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's fine their own at that point. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like I said, just.
Speaker 3: Let me agree that suicide is not the way.
Speaker 2: No, that's probably the worst way. Yeah, I mean, really,
Speaker 2: by any any form of death. I mean that's I mean,
Speaker 2: I've heard you know, and me and Sean we always
Speaker 2: talk about those near death experiences and stuff, and some
Speaker 2: of them are on suicides. And what they say is
Speaker 2: like these people that they're they're getting ready to commit suicide.
Speaker 2: Maybe they were the ones that were in the garage
Speaker 2: with the gas going and shit like that, and they
Speaker 2: say that they're whenever they because as soon as you
Speaker 2: die or as soon as you're about to die or whatever.
Speaker 2: In these near death experiences, you know, you have a
Speaker 2: little bit of forethought of like oh my god, oh
Speaker 2: my god, oh my god, I can't believe I just
Speaker 2: did that. Like almost every single one of them, they
Speaker 2: immediately regret it as soon as they do it, like
Speaker 2: in the near death experiences anyway, and they're you know it,
Speaker 2: because whether you believe in fate or destiny or some
Speaker 2: kind of plan that was laid out as to why
Speaker 2: you're here or whatever, most people see that that is
Speaker 2: clearly what's going on after you die if you take
Speaker 2: your life too soon, because it's one hundred percent was
Speaker 2: not in the cards for you to ever commit suicide
Speaker 2: like that is never the thing that you sign up
Speaker 2: for before you come into this life, I don't think.
Speaker 3: And it's a permanent solution for a temporary problem anyway
Speaker 3: you slice it right. Yeah, I mean, look, I understand
Speaker 3: the ethical conversation about somebody who is suffering from a
Speaker 3: very painful cancer that is going to kill them and
Speaker 3: they're just trying to go out on their terms. Okay, Look,
Speaker 3: I understand that, and I have sympathy for that. Yes,
Speaker 3: I may disagree with it for my reasons, but it's
Speaker 3: also one of those things that like if I was
Speaker 3: to walk a mile in their shoes, maybe I'd had
Speaker 3: the same type of energy. Look, I don't know, okay,
Speaker 3: but I dis agree with this being a thing, the
Speaker 3: suicide pod, and they're trying to make it three D
Speaker 3: printable and readily available. You could download it right now
Speaker 3: and just make it happen. But ba bub bro, what
Speaker 3: they're trying to make it readily available around the world
Speaker 3: for you to just off yourself at your choosing. All
Speaker 3: you need is some liquid nitrogen, which is not hard
Speaker 3: or illegal to get at all. So yeah, they're just
Speaker 3: trying to make it easy. And then what are they
Speaker 3: gonna do with all these bodies? What are they gonna
Speaker 3: do with there's a couple of options. They know they
Speaker 3: can't bury them, but they could mulch them. They could,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. I think that actually might
Speaker 3: become the new thing.
Speaker 2: Eh, there's a chance. I think that a lot of
Speaker 2: people are gonna be a lot more traditional and in
Speaker 2: their ways, like, yeah, okay, yes, I want the Viking sendoff.
Speaker 2: Do I believe that my family is actually gonna let
Speaker 2: me have that? Probably not, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I told them to do that, by the way, and
Speaker 3: if they don't, I'm gonna be I'm gonna haunt them.
Speaker 2: I'm a bullshit. I'm gonna tackle them piggies when you
Speaker 2: sleeping as a ghost. Hey you right, yeah, dude. But anyway, Jacob,
Speaker 2: let them uh, let them hear the knife hands bro.
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