WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:21.800 A women's society walking in the shadows, the cultiedition. A 2 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:25.559 women's society walking in the shadows. 3 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:33.159 The cultition. Hey, thank you so much for finally. Oh 4 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.880 I feel like this has been amazing for a long time. 5 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:38.479 Yeah. 6 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:40.560 Absolutely, super excited to him. 7 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:44.240 We got so yeah, we were so excited, so so excited. 8 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:49.000 You yeah, just connecting our perpose. Juliet and I are 9 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:50.920 growing up. But a lot of the time we sit 10 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:51.439 there going. 11 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:56.399 That's what we did. You know. 12 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.399 What's interesting is like it's been like the last couple 13 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:04.719 of months where so I I I work for the 14 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:06.840 federal government here in the United States, and it's like, 15 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:12.079 you know, it's it's it's a busy, busy season, and 16 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.400 especially like when you're in law enforcement, there's a lot 17 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:19.000 of different factors that, uh, you know pull at your schedule, 18 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.400 a lot of them. And so it's like when I 19 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.079 the last couple of months, because now I'm more or 20 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:28.319 less in like a senior level, So now like a 21 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:31.680 lot of times my evenings are now like open. So 22 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.760 it's like, you know, what do you do with your 23 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:37.000 with your evenings? I know what I'll do and you know, 24 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.439 kind of start delving into all your little hobbies and 25 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:43.680 and and the things that interest you, and obviously cryptozoology 26 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:47.640 is one of them. So yeah, so definitely this is 27 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:50.760 an awesome way to spend my time and and to 28 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:52.480 be with like individuals like. 29 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:54.319 Oh that's awesome. 30 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:57.519 Yeah, I mean it takes it takes over your world, 31 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:59.560 doesn't it. You just kind of like every light speed 32 00:01:59.560 --> 00:01:59.920 little man. 33 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:00.400 You know. 34 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:02.959 Even at work, it's like, yeah, I've got two minutes up, Okay, 35 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:03.840 what am I watching now? 36 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:06.280 People are like what are you watching? 37 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:11.800 Like, oh, literally, Like when I go and drop my 38 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:14.599 little baby off to Kendy, the girls are like, what 39 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:15.439 are you up to today? 40 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.199 Late? So you're going to work And I was like, 41 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:18.240 I'm just going to go. 42 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:23.000 And do an interview about Bigfoot just like what, Yeah, 43 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:23.680 I just got to quick. 44 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:25.240 It'll be great. 45 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:26.639 Yeah. 46 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:30.800 Absolutely, I'm sure they all think we're I think our 47 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:33.159 friends now think we're a bit crazy, But we're. 48 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:38.719 Like, yeah, but are we? Are we with with everything that, 49 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:43.840 especially when in context with what our conversation is going 50 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.080 to be. It's one of those things where you know, 51 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:53.919 these things, these whatever they are, these entities, these whether 52 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.400 they're biological, whether they're like some kind of an undiscovered species, 53 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.919 an animal or you know, some theories are that they're 54 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:05.800 interdimensional beings and stuff, and you start hearing all these 55 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:11.240 different theories and it's definitely something that requires I believe, 56 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.919 especially like somebody like me who's in law enforcement. You know, 57 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:20.800 there's there's things called anecdotal evidence, right, and like there 58 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:26.800 are so many accounts of people who are who aren't 59 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.759 people with any kind of mental deficiencies. You know, there 60 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:33.479 aren't people with any kind of issues that you would think, oh, 61 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:36.719 they're doing it for you know, for clout, they're doing 62 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:40.000 it for money and stuff like that, that that really 63 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:45.360 do have these intense encounters with these things. And you know, 64 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:47.719 these are people that are you know, ex law enforcement, 65 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:51.639 military personnel, you know, people in the medical field, you know, 66 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.439 people in government, high end government. I mean, we had 67 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:58.039 a president of the United States. I believe that, you know, 68 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:01.319 Teddy Roosevelt, if I'm not mistaken that you know it 69 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:03.159 has an account of a bigfoot, you know. 70 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:06.400 So yeah, yeah, that's pretty that's pretty cool. 71 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.919 I mean it's the United States. I mean, unless you 72 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:16.959 know he was really you know, going back on Grand Puzzle, Yeah, yeah. 73 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:20.079 The Devil's Letters, as we've been told, we learned and 74 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:22.800 you would a couple of weeks ago that it's the 75 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:25.519 Devil's letters, And I was like, this is great. 76 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:27.279 Why are we calling it pot? 77 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.839 I don't think it would have taken an exorbitant amount 78 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:36.480 of marijuana to have you hallucinate and see something there. 79 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:41.800 Yeah, how yes, yeah, yeah, the two mushrooms out in 80 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:42.240 the field. 81 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.759 So mushrooms maybe, But. 82 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.079 And what was the president of the United States of 83 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:51.519 America doing mushies? 84 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:53.959 Like questionable? 85 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:56.199 Who knows? 86 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:58.600 I don't lose your job after that? 87 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:10.240 Yeah, yeah, he's like a batman out. Oh god, okay, 88 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:12.000 try not to get you in trouble. 89 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:12.600 We get. 90 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:19.639 Please November so soon right now, that's like next week 91 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:20.120 is election. 92 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.839 So I know, oh my god, the crazy stuff I've 93 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:27.120 been seeing of, you know, like people knocking on other 94 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.920 people's doors and yelling at them because they've got like 95 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.879 a poster of the flannel. Yeah, that doesn't happen here. 96 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.279 That there's no, there's absolutely none of that here. Like 97 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:41.360 you can have people from every different government living in 98 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:45.079 the same house. There is no kind of each other 99 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:48.199 about it. But that is that, there's nothing like that here. Like, 100 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.920 you know, we're always fascinated, aren't we we watch stuff, 101 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.199 we see the other but we're very. 102 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.879 Careful not to mention anything like that. 103 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.560 You know, we stay out of the whole politics, and 104 00:05:58.639 --> 00:05:59.079 I mean. 105 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:02.079 Honestly, in news, we're like, we just give them so 106 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:05.000 much shit. We're like, you were rubbish. You said you 107 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.160 were going to increase the speed limit back to one 108 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:08.560 hundred and it's still at eighty. 109 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:11.839 I'll help you by using a vivid to draw one 110 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:13.560 hundred on the signs for you. 111 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:14.439 I'll help. 112 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:16.000 It's taken six months. 113 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.800 Well, we even had one guy that ended up with 114 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.879 there were so many potholes, he went in and filled 115 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:23.600 them up south he just gave up waiting for the 116 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:24.360 council to do it. 117 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.879 So you know what, do you know what they've done 118 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:31.959 in my hometown. They've gone around and they've put flowers, 119 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.199 Like they've started growing flowers out of these potholes so 120 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.959 that people systematically drive around them. 121 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:42.920 That's amazing. I can see them turning into beautiful pieces 122 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:43.800 something like that. 123 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.160 For so live in the country though, you know, like 124 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.360 so we live way out in the sticks, like an 125 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:51.319 hour and a half drive from the main city. 126 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.279 So it's literally like we call it Conatin. 127 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.879 At the moment, instead of Carterton because there's just so 128 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.199 many road cones. So we're like, oh, well, we'll just 129 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:03.000 beautify it, just put you know, flowers in, since you know, make. 130 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:04.839 A counts as a piece of shit and doesn't want 131 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:05.639 to do the job. 132 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.560 Absolutely makes sense. Why not? I was kind of hoping 133 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.959 that one of them, somebody in politics, gets so desperate 134 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:15.800 to become the next something or other that they'll release 135 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.160 whatever top secret things that they have just to kind 136 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.120 of one up the other one. So I'm like, which 137 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:22.839 one's gonna be the UFO files, which one's gonna release the. 138 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:27.879 Big Mouffman, which one's gonna pop out? Don't man? 139 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:32.560 And two Pacabra because so with with me? So I'm 140 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.680 Puerto Rican obviously, and and well not obviously you wouldn't 141 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:37.519 know that if you saw me. But anyways, I'm Puerto 142 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:43.160 Rican and and one of the the way that I 143 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.360 kind of started getting into i'd always back. And I'm 144 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.319 fifty one years old, so for me, the Internet didn't 145 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.600 exist in my youth. You know, my children now can 146 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.839 avail themselves of that resource and they do it well. 147 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:56.959 I mean you and I do. Look at us, we're 148 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:01.120 talking like this. Never in my mouth. Yeah. No, in 149 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.399 my youth, we had to you know, two paper cups 150 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.199 and a little string from one house to the next. 151 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:07.519 Yeah. 152 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.759 Or you know, for us, you couldn't get phone calls 153 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.079 past nine o'clock. So we had that code where you 154 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.639 would call hang up as soon as somebody picks up, 155 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.000 and then they know to call you back and stuff 156 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:21.480 like that. Because yeah, so things are so much different 157 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:24.839 now where it's like like back then, you know, I 158 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:32.519 would get information from encyclopedias, and I remember seeing the 159 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:36.720 first pictures of the surgeons film, that real popular surgeon's 160 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:40.320 film for the Locknecks Monster that ended up being fake. 161 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.759 It wasn't real, and and that was disheartening. But then 162 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.679 it's that that, you know, the U the Patterson Gimlin 163 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:53.200 film and in the uh that I remember that one 164 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:57.879 still in the encyclopedia and it was Bigfoot, it was Patty, 165 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.120 and it was just I was ever since then I 166 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.080 was a kid. I was just consumed because I'm like 167 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:08.480 the world is so huge. It's so big. You know, 168 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:12.279 the Olympic Peninsula. You see all these areas out in 169 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:16.399 you know, in Canada and stuff, and it's like, you know, 170 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.639 millions of miles worth of like unexplored territory. Why not? 171 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:21.679 Why not? 172 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:23.720 I was just gonna say so, like you coming from 173 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:27.519 a small island like Puerto Rico is so similar to 174 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:31.200 the Polynesian islands that you know, for example, like my 175 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.799 partner is from someone, and so we went to Somemo 176 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.440 in July to meet all of his family, and man, 177 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:39.360 we had some crazy stuff that happened over there, and 178 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.879 I was like, Oh, there's so much here. 179 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:44.759 It was such an exciting moment for Juliet and I 180 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:45.320 to kind of. 181 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:47.440 Be a part of and just go oh, I can't 182 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:49.440 wait to get into it a bit more. And like, 183 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:51.679 so for you coming from such a small island, it's 184 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:56.879 so similar comparisons as far as like like cultural indigenous 185 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:00.000 cultural folklore and all that sort of stuff as well. 186 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.320 So it's honest, it's really like, you know, it's old 187 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:04.039 and it's honest. 188 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:07.320 It's not this Western bullshit that we put over the top. 189 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.919 Of it, isn't it. 190 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.080 There's the Hollywood version that's slowly kind of checked stuff 191 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.639 and yeah, it's yeah, And that's why we are doing 192 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:19.840 that kind of research and going into the indigenous populations 193 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:23.200 and the native people and those sort of stories because 194 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:24.879 it's so real, it's so cool. 195 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:28.519 Oh yeah, and you look at it through so like, 196 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:33.159 for instance, Puerto Rico, it's part of the Bermuda Triangle, 197 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.559 so there's always yeah, we're. 198 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:35.840 Going to bring that up. 199 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:41.200 Yeah, So Puerto Rico has always had that that that 200 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.759 mystique to it because it's one of the corners of 201 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.519 the Bermuda Triangle. I forgot what the other two. I 202 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.120 know it's Florida and Puerto Rico, and I forgot what 203 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:53.919 the other point was. But but it's one of those 204 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:56.559 things where Puerto Rico has always been draped in this 205 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:01.679 kind of sorry, what's kind of moving. Puerto Rico has 206 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.320 always kind of been draped with this kind of folklore 207 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:10.320 where where you know, a ton of UFO sidings. The 208 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:15.120 United States government had the biggest satellite dish in the 209 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.120 in the United States in Puerto Rico and it's in 210 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:21.879 it's an al Junka and it's like the rainforest there. 211 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.039 And their story is going back to when they first 212 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.360 fired that thing off. The amount of UFOs that I mean, 213 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.559 this is going back to my great grandmother, you know, 214 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:38.279 from her time in These are honest, simple people, and 215 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:40.840 by what I mean simple I don't mean simple minded. 216 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.679 They're they're there. You know, they do have a very 217 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.960 powerful sense of observation. You know, you're not gonna pull 218 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.879 the wool over their eyes. But when you have somebody 219 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.360 like my great grandmother who would say, yeah, she remembers 220 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.279 walking home from this little what this little makeshift school 221 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:59.039 back when when it was her you know, when it 222 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:03.360 was her time and stuff, and she remembers saying, you know, 223 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:06.360 lights in the skies that just didn't make sense, and 224 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.960 you know, you know, she would get in trouble if 225 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.720 she would bring it up too much because people were 226 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:16.919 having these experiences. So what it was is they kind 227 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.879 of chalked it up to like, all right, these kids 228 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.399 are bored, they're not doing anything. We need to do 229 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:26.759 something with them. And in reality, it was these supernatural 230 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.399 experiences or out of you know, interdimensional experiences that they 231 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:34.320 were having and they couldn't talk about it because if 232 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:36.919 they talked about it, they'd get in trouble because they're 233 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:39.320 making it up. And it kind of kind in that 234 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.399 same attitude whenever we get on the on the subject 235 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.759 of the chupacaba, that same attitude kind of followed the 236 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:49.759 chupa Kada a little bit, but then again it was 237 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.600 the anecdotal evidence that countered that, you know, that type 238 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:54.600 of argument. 239 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:58.200 So yeah, yeah, and that that's kind of you know, 240 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:00.919 there's been the sign through kind of every area, you know, 241 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.120 and right back in your great grandmother or your grandmother's time, 242 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.159 there wouldn't have been all the planes. There wouldn't have 243 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.679 been helicopters and all the stuff flying around all the time. 244 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.000 You wouldn't have had the savellites and you know all 245 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:12.840 that kind of stuff. So they, you know, they can't 246 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:15.440 turn around and go it's not this. You know, we've 247 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.360 seen stuff and kind of gone, yeah, pretty sure, that's 248 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.919 not a hall like cut to the road plane. You know, 249 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.200 it's just it's everywhere, you know, and this is like again, 250 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.080 this is like years and years ago when I was 251 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:26.759 a teenager. 252 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.799 So yeah, it does, and you probably too. 253 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:32.080 You kind of get to that point where you get 254 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:34.919 really frustrated sometimes with people because they just they won't 255 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:38.720 even acknowledge that there's something else out there. But yeah, 256 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:40.720 I think it comes from a big fear thing, isn't it. 257 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:44.639 You know, there's this real fear of the unknown where 258 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:46.840 you know, like us and you know, people like us 259 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:48.559 we kind of go, oh, let's let's go oh, like 260 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:50.679 there was a dog man over there, let's go let's 261 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:51.399 go have a work. 262 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:59.039 People go that way and we go that way. 263 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:01.639 If we can find people like what yeah, yeah, well, 264 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:03.639 I mean that's that sort of thing is what spurred 265 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:07.399 Cryptid Women's Society on. We started getting all of these 266 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.519 women talking to us and guys, but a lot of 267 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.799 women going, We've got these stories we haven't told anyone before, 268 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.120 but you guys seem really open to it. I want 269 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.440 to tell you about it. And Juliet and I were like, 270 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:21.799 this is insane. We have so many people wanting to 271 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:23.759 talk about these stories. And it was during kind of 272 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:26.919 lockdown and you know in New Zealand and Juliet's in Australia. 273 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:33.159 Juliet went through probably the most restrictions worldwide. Yeah, lockdown 274 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:36.720 and stuff, and it was really rough, really really rough, 275 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:38.759 but it really spurred on a lot of people to 276 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.840 kind of look outside of their normal space. 277 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:42.240 That they were in. 278 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.799 And then we kind of realized that there wasn't a 279 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.480 space for women to kind of come together and talk 280 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:50.759 about this sort of stuff. 281 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:52.399 There's a lot of. 282 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:56.000 Spaces for guys absolutely within this space within this industry, 283 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:59.039 but there's not a whole heap of roots for women 284 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.159 to kind of share that and a safe space, you know, 285 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.320 for women to come together and that's what's fur encrypted 286 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:08.120 women's society. And then come down to the South Pacific, 287 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:12.000 there's nothing, you know, like I think you're very very 288 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:18.639 very privileged in America and around through the Northern Hemisphere 289 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:23.159 to have such I don't know education is the right word, 290 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.639 but it's basically, you know, you have these these TV 291 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:30.080 shows about you know, Expedition Bigfoot and all of these 292 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:34.120 things happening in the South Pacific. In Australian villain, we 293 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:37.320 can't even get that. We can't even get those shows. 294 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:40.879 So it's very close, very closed. 295 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:45.279 I really, I do in Australia like the exhibition Bigfoot. 296 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.000 But it's really funny because I live in Victoria. Victoria's 297 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.399 is quite a it's a very strict state. It's just 298 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:55.159 as but like every other state in Australia will get 299 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:58.559 Expedition Bigfoot, I get eight months later, you know what 300 00:15:58.639 --> 00:15:59.679 I mean, And then you don't. 301 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:00.879 Even get all the episodes. 302 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.039 You'll, yeah, if they think, you know, you've got TV 303 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:06.679 shows that will come out, but if they go, yeah, 304 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.919 I don't really like that one, so you know, so 305 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:11.559 we're not even going to show you that one. That 306 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:12.879 one's not going to be available. 307 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.120 I don't know. Have you ever heard of pepper Peg? 308 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:16.360 You got kids? 309 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:18.279 Absolutely? Okay? 310 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:21.000 All right, So there was an episode of pitper Peg 311 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.519 with pepper Peg was playing with a spider. It got 312 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.240 banned in Australia because we don't want kids to think 313 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.639 they can play with spiders because everything here is poisonous. 314 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:38.519 Yeah, that just goes to show the mentality of our government. Yeah. 315 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:43.279 But in New Zealand, I had to watch black market 316 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.440 big shows. 317 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:47.519 Okay, that's my life. 318 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:49.720 Somebody watch. 319 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:52.679 One hundred serious. 320 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.960 So one of our friends, I think I'm going to. 321 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:01.840 Start me please, I mean, seriously, people don't span me 322 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:02.279 with it. 323 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:05.119 You people don't understand how bloody lucky you are. 324 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:09.319 Because seriously, like Britt is brit from Britt Investigates, right, 325 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:13.319 she is on Discovery Channel doing the Lost Monster Files 326 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:17.599 and I'm like, dude, there is no way. 327 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:18.960 I'm going to ever get to watch this. So I'm 328 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:19.680 now trying. 329 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:21.759 To talk people into holding their phone up in front 330 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:22.759 of the television. 331 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.119 Watch it, watch it. 332 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:31.000 We have tried everything, Amazon, Apple TV everything, it's a 333 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:32.279 valeremit to us. 334 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:34.359 You're our connection. 335 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:37.880 Is there a way like if they get burnt on 336 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:40.680 a DVD, would you be able to put it like 337 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:43.319 on a four K DVD player over there where you're 338 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:44.799 able to eat it so long. 339 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:47.359 As it's so long as it's region free, like because 340 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:48.359 you know they have regions. 341 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:50.839 Has to be because we have we. 342 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.400 Have videos or DVD players here, so you can change 343 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:56.599 the regions on it, but can you do it three times? 344 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.279 So if you change it to a region for like 345 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:01.279 a US, did you change it back? 346 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:03.039 We change it back. You can't change it anymore. 347 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:05.680 We sound terrible. 348 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:09.559 Fourth old country down here. I don't. 349 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:17.039 Because one of my one of my wife's favorite movies 350 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.519 is Australia with Nicole Kidman. 351 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:24.000 Oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah, coming. 352 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:26.279 Out, which looks pretty awesome to she'll probably you know 353 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.599 the name of that one. So we'll just do like 354 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:32.359 we do a DVD swap. 355 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.920 Trying to kill you. As far as animals is concerned, like. 356 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.680 Honestly, every snake that we have here, specially in Victoria, 357 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.359 every snake is poisonous. We have like the most poisonous 358 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.279 snakes that we have Brown snakes, red belly, black snakes. 359 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:51.720 We have vipers. We have everything here. 360 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.960 Every spider anything like crawls wants to kill you. Like 361 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:01.079 we have fluffy caterpillars. Back in New Zealand, fluffy caterpillars. 362 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:03.079 Kids are playing with them. No, no, no, you don't 363 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.240 touch them here. They're called what are they called. They're 364 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:09.920 called lava, lava something. So basically if you touch these things, 365 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:12.359 it feels like you've got lava being pulled all. 366 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.440 Over your hands. It's like every time you see something. 367 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:20.559 Which is the total opposite, right, because in New Zealand, 368 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:22.440 you can walk into the bush barefoot. 369 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.920 People go bushwalking with no shoes on. 370 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.559 Right, We go online the grass, walk on rocks, whatever, 371 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.200 go climbing whatever, no problem, nothing will kill you. The 372 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.599 only thing you might get stung by a bumblebee. 373 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:43.279 Now everything else, And like. 374 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:45.759 You know, we grew up going down to the rivers 375 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.519 and swimming and you know, and all that kind of stuff. 376 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:51.440 And number one, you've got to get to the river 377 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:53.680 first or the stream, so you've got to go through 378 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.440 the brown snakes. Then you've got to get in the water. 379 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:59.200 And then you've got like your water spiders and your 380 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:01.200 other nasties in there, and then if you go into 381 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:04.279 deep water, you've got your bull sharks and your crocodiles. 382 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:06.880 So we're okay, we don't have crocodiles here, but all 383 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:08.720 in your rivers. You don't swim in the rivers here 384 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:13.480 because there's bull sharks everywhere. So it's I don't know why. 385 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:18.359 She lives there. I read North and there's just like 386 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:19.920 this most amazing beach. 387 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:22.720 We're up there watching the ND five hundred and I'm 388 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.319 not walking along this beach going this is just amazing. 389 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.799 And then there's two drunk people ran into it. Police 390 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.319 officers like get them out of the water, and it's 391 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:31.200 only dawned on me. 392 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:33.000 I'm like, why isn't anybody swimming? 393 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:37.079 This is so beautiful and they're like sharks, crocodiles, box jellyfish, 394 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:44.359 like so beautiful beaches, but people don't swim in them. 395 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:47.119 And that's the big thing, you know, People go, wow, 396 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:51.599 look at all these beaches, and it's just like, no. 397 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:53.839 No, I literally do you. I literally see you both 398 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:56.839 on vacation coming up to the States and just instead 399 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:58.880 of going out in any of the town read you 400 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:03.200 just stay in the hotel. Them in Stream shows that's 401 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:04.960 exactly what we sent yesterday. 402 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:08.640 I found night you would just be watching so downloading 403 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:10.440 them and taking them bring them back home. 404 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.519 So our conversation used today We're like, we're going to 405 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:16.480 go to the States. We have to block out in 406 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:20.440 entire week so we can watch everything. 407 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:24.160 You have to you have to there's so much literally 408 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:28.680 on on YouTube. Just YouTube alone, you can there's like 409 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:35.880 hours long worth of programs anything you have independent people. 410 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:42.119 There's one called Small Town Mysteries. And these these four guys, 411 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:45.079 all they do is they go out into the bush, 412 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:50.960 into the into the woods, and they've had some amazing interactions. 413 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:55.440 But I've always noticed, and this is something that working 414 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:57.880 for the government and kind of like when my father 415 00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:02.279 was was in and he had to investigate some of 416 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:05.119 these cases that were coming in with the chupa cabra. 417 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:07.200 It was one of those things where it was like, 418 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:16.960 you know, I I think that these things can only 419 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:22.799 these things have to be in some way, shape or form. 420 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:28.319 They have to be interdimensional maybe some way, somehow maybe. 421 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:34.200 And the only reason I'm saying is because I so 422 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:35.960 I'll give it. I'll give you an example. So I was, 423 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:38.799 I was, I'm a firearms instructor here in in in 424 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:42.920 my town or in the state. And so if people 425 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.359 want to you know, come out and they want to 426 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.079 legally carry a firearm for their protection, they come see 427 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:50.960 somebody like me, We certify them. They go through a 428 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:54.559 long course, and then you know, they end up you know, 429 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:58.640 kind of like successfully negotiating the process. Well, one of 430 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:05.880 my students was this older African American gentleman who I 431 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:09.039 mean he was probably I think he was more like 432 00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:14.279 into his late sixties or early seventies, and we were 433 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:18.119 just talking like serious, like the thing about here about 434 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:21.680 older men, especially older church guys like that, they really 435 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:25.839 don't have the inclination. I have to lie. They don't. 436 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:28.079 They're not going to get anything out of it. You're 437 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:30.319 not going to impress. It was only him and I 438 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:33.599 in the in the in the classroom, so he wasn't 439 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.160 really gonna you know, kind of like impress anyone in 440 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.880 this big you know, you know, forum or what have you. 441 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:45.279 And I have a I remember I had an alert 442 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:47.640 come up and it was because a new episode of 443 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:52.119 Small Town Monsters had come on, and I said, he goes, oh, 444 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:54.119 do you have to go? Because it was kind of 445 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:56.000 like a ring tone. I said, no, no, no, it's 446 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.640 an alert for a show I want to watch on. 447 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.480 I said, don't laugh, it's on Bigfoot. He's like, no, no, no, 448 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:04.680 He was like, I won't laugh. He was like, remember 449 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:07.000 I told you I was a truck driver, right, And 450 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:10.000 I said yeah. So he goes, So this was during 451 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:14.359 the late nineties. He goes, I'm driving through Kentucky. He 452 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.880 goes like, it was one of my routes, and he 453 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:21.559 was like, it was middle of the day. He goes, 454 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.759 He's driven that route a million times. It was a 455 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:27.440 very familiar route to him. But he noticed that cars 456 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:31.200 were He was coming around this hill, and right as 457 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:34.720 he was getting ready to go on the decline of 458 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:39.599 the hill, he seemed traffic starting to kind of like 459 00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:42.519 back up, and he sees a couple of people outside 460 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:46.079 of their vehicles looking up in a certain direction, and 461 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:50.680 he sees stones and stuff right in almost like going 462 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:54.759 onto the road. And he goes up to one of 463 00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:57.680 the drivers and he says, what's what's going on? It 464 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:00.720 was there like a landslide or a rock slide, or 465 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.680 the genesis of a rock slide. So they're just waiting 466 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:05.319 for it to happen because they don't want to get 467 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.920 caught in it, and he goes no. He was like, 468 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:12.119 whatever it is, you're gonna have to see it, because 469 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:13.920 if I told you what it is, you're not gonna 470 00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:17.359 believe me. This is what the driver told him. So 471 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.599 they're all looking and all of a sudden, they start 472 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:23.599 hearing these like this rustling of leaves and trees snapping 473 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:30.079 just coming down out of He said it literally from 474 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.880 I'm actually just like paraphrasing, but it was almost like 475 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:38.279 from from the imagination or from a fable to reality. 476 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:42.079 This thing just walks right across. He said. It had 477 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.200 to be at least eight eight and a half feet tall. 478 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.319 It was huge that all it did was it took 479 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:50.759 three steps and it was already across the road. If 480 00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:54.039 you know anything about double if you have two lanes 481 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.119 the US, especially when you go into the rural areas, 482 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:00.799 they're pretty lengthy, especially when there's only two because there's 483 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:05.319 no pass lane, so they're pretty lengthy. And for something 484 00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.799 to have those strides that would be able to and 485 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.759 I immediately, like, my heart starts beating, and so I'm like, 486 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.559 I immediately go into interview mode, like I like, because 487 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:19.319 that's as close as I'm gonna get to this thing, right, so, 488 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.000 you know, and and he goes, I said, what did 489 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.960 it look like? Did you see its face? And he 490 00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:27.799 said he was like it was the weirdest thing because 491 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:35.160 it was the perfect combination of monkey and man. Wow, 492 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:37.799 it was like it was the perfect It was like 493 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.759 the face was just really wide and it was it 494 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:43.880 didn't have any face, It didn't have any facial hair. 495 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:48.599 It's it's hands didn't have hair, but everything else had fur. 496 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:50.680 There were with only a couple of blots of it 497 00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.319 was like dark brown, he said. But he said it 498 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:58.720 was huge. It was extremely muscular. You know, he saw 499 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:02.599 everything genitalia, I mean everything he saw muscles. He was like, 500 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.640 it was definitely not a man in the smooth No man, 501 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.240 no person could successfully negotiate that that hill. The way 502 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.200 it was running down the hill, how he was you know, 503 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.680 any other person would have probably have broken their neck 504 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.640 down that hill. And he goes and it was literally 505 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.480 thirty seconds from it running down the hill to across 506 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.480 the street. And then people started panicking and they left, 507 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:27.279 and they and he got backtruck and he left also, 508 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:30.799 and then that's that. So it's like stories like that 509 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:32.839 that I was like, man, I remember hearing about my 510 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:39.160 father with the whole thing with Puerto Rico, and should 511 00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:40.839 I keep talking. I'm sorry, I'm just taking the home. 512 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:43.720 Yeah, keep going. I'm loving this. 513 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.960 So when I was a kid, so, Puerto Rico was 514 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.559 one of those places where, you know, again, people would 515 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.519 hear about UFOs and people would say that they've seen 516 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.720 little grays walking around or what have you, But it 517 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.680 wasn't really known. You know, it wasn't something that a 518 00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:09.079 lot of people talked about. A lot of personnel. There 519 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.400 was a lot of military personnel in Puerto Rico, so 520 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.640 you know, they would sweep it under rug and chalk 521 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.000 it up to it's just an Air Force experiment, don't 522 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.599 worry about it. These are top secret planes that are 523 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.440 flying overhead. And for the most part, because I was 524 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:24.480 in the Air Force for ten years and for the 525 00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:28.480 most part, yeah, there are Air Force bases like right 526 00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:32.279 Patterson Air Force Base that have you know, some top 527 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.480 secret things going on there. And you may see a 528 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.599 plane that defies what you would think a conventional plane 529 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.119 would look like. You know, so, like I'll give you 530 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.039 the example, the stealth bomber and the stealth fighter was 531 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.759 like a perfect Triangle at plane was already flying in 532 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:52.559 the eighties before it was commissioned, and you know broad online, 533 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.680 you know, in the late nineties and so on. So 534 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.440 Puerto Rico really really wasn't some really in a place 535 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.880 that people would talk about like cryptids. You know again UFOs, 536 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.799 the Bermuda Triangle ship's missing planes crashing then they could 537 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:12.640 never find them, but never a cryptid. And I remember 538 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.960 it was around nineteen ninety five, and the only reason 539 00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:20.240 I remember it was nineteen ninety five was a couple 540 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.799 of family events that had taken place in that year. 541 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.240 They're very memorable. So I remember that I was talking 542 00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:29.119 to my father. My parents were separated, so you know, 543 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.000 he would call to check up on us and stuff 544 00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.759 like that. And and one day he you know, he's 545 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:38.319 he's looking flustered, he's completely annoyed, and you know, I said, 546 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.440 what's up, Man's what's the you know, what's going on 547 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.720 with you? And he goes, oh, he goes, I'm getting complaints. 548 00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.839 I think that there's these kids doing there. They're part 549 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.559 of be a cult and they're they're hurting animals. I said, 550 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:55.759 they're hurting animals. He goes like, yeah, they're they're killing 551 00:29:55.759 --> 00:30:00.200 animals and stuff, and it's not just you know, it's 552 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.359 like they're draining the animals of their blood. 553 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.160 I'm like, all right, that would be that would be 554 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:07.799 the first thing that you think of, right, is that 555 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.480 it's a satanic cult or something like that and they're draining. 556 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.799 The blood exactly. It was a lot of this was 557 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:19.039 the nineties, so a lot of the h a lot 558 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.279 of the kids were kind of going more into like 559 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.400 the you know, heavy metal and all this other stuff. 560 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.400 So there was a there was a continued there was 561 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.759 like a small group of kids out there on the 562 00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.559 island that were, you know, being foolish and and uh 563 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.240 and so you know, my father was like, you know, 564 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.400 I'm pretty sure this is all going to end up 565 00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:43.400 being some kind of kid, some kind of kids you know, playing, 566 00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:47.920 you know, being being mean, or it could be you know, 567 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.559 some kind of an animal. He goes, So, you know, 568 00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.440 we kind of left it alone, and you know, until 569 00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.640 a couple of weeks had gone by and stuff, and 570 00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.400 I you know, he called back again and we're talking, 571 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:01.920 and I brought it up. I said, hey, you know, 572 00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:03.920 so what's going on with the case of you know, 573 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.839 with all the and the livestock and everything like that. 574 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:09.359 I said, so I'm hearing some things on the news. 575 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.200 So this is when they started to kind of pick up, 576 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.960 So like around ninety five ninety six. 577 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.599 Just for a second, Looise, So how old were you then? 578 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.640 Ninety five I was born and I'm horrible at maths. 579 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:24.559 You like a teenager. 580 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.160 Now three years old? 581 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.079 Okay, so you in your early twenties. 582 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:31.319 Yeah, yeah, so I was like twenty two. 583 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.160 And so what was your dad's position, Like, what did 584 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.400 he do as far as was he in the police force? 585 00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.079 Yeah, so he was a commandant for our town for 586 00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.160 the for the state police what they would consider each 587 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.839 town in Puerto Rico has their own law enforcement. But 588 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:52.039 then there's there are the kind of like the state police, 589 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.400 and they're the ones that they absolute the whole. They 590 00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:00.759 investigate everything major crimes and and organized crime issues like that. 591 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.480 The state police handle that. Then you have the individual 592 00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.079 towns that have their own individual police departments and stuff. 593 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.480 So my father was the commandant of the academy for 594 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.960 the state Police, and he was also police officer. 595 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.480 Himself, right right right just to see the scene. 596 00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.960 So he's quite high as far as like being in 597 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:20.599 the police force. 598 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:21.000 Like he's not. 599 00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.440 Yeah, so it's why my friend both became I went 600 00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.039 into law enforcement. My kid brothers in law enforcement, so 601 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.480 you know, it was like a blood run stick, you know, 602 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.720 and and uh, and then my sisters went into nursing, 603 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.359 so they're all into you know, they're all nursing. So 604 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.400 you're either cops and nurses in my family. 605 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.400 So that kind of gives them, it gives a bit 606 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.720 of kind of context to him being frustrated and annoyed 607 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.640 at the silly, you know, stupid thing happening with these 608 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.400 stupid kids doing stuff that they shouldn't be doing and 609 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.599 taking his time and. 610 00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.680 Forcing him to then go out and you know investigate it. Yeah, yeah, 611 00:32:58.720 --> 00:32:59.720 fair cool, right. 612 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.640 Exactly, because then, you because it was the nineties, was 613 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.279 possibly the worst possible time for anything like this to 614 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.559 be happening, because it was when the island saw a 615 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:14.559 lot of the island saw a big influx of narcotics 616 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.119 and drugs and stuff like that. So there was a 617 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.279 lot of counter narcotics operations. There was a lot of 618 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.640 crime that was riddling certain areas of the island, especially 619 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.000 the capital of San Juan. There's this one area that 620 00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:30.279 was just seeding with just activity of organized crime and stuff. So, 621 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.119 you know, when you have law enforcement personnel on an 622 00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:38.640 island who are already heavy laden with work and there's 623 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.799 not enough staff, you know, there weren't, you know, and 624 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.559 you're trying to pump as many recruits during academy as 625 00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.599 possible so that you can send them out into the 626 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.319 streets so that there are you know, it's a frustrating time, 627 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.400 you know, because it's a logistical nightmare. Then on top 628 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.079 of that, to have what they believe are you know, 629 00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:02.000 these animal mutilations being attributed to, you know, something like 630 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.920 the occult. It made sense to him because all hell 631 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.640 had been broken breaking loose all over the island anyways. 632 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.800 So he's figuring, you know, now, we definitely have to 633 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:15.119 investigate these because again it's livestock, it's people's revenue, it's money, 634 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.119 it's effort exactly, so you know, and and then so 635 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.679 it's something that he definitely had to investigate. So the 636 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.960 first was in a town of Orokovi's, which is kind 637 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:32.800 of like in a central part, and that was that 638 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.159 was when they first found one of the animals with 639 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.880 three puncture wounds on their neck. So that's that was 640 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.880 the one where they were like where they started to 641 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.559 kind of figure trying to think this isn't normal, because 642 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.079 the animals were not only drained of their blood, but 643 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.000 the problem was the animal wasn't stiff, It wasn't like 644 00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:56.639 rigamotives hadn't set in, so and it was and it 645 00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:01.039 had been you know, hours since the blood had been 646 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:05.440 drained from animals. There was no blood anywhere near them, 647 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.719 you know, something where you have six, seven, eight animals 648 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.480 all strewn around the property with puncture wounds, yet you know, 649 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.199 void of any kind of blood. Yeah, any kind of blood. 650 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.599 And then not only that, for there to be no 651 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:26.880 type of blood around them, there weren't any aggressive predation. 652 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.760 Yeah, I mean we understand that Juliet and I have 653 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:34.119 both grown up on like kind of in farming environments. 654 00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.320 Juliet grew up on a farm and you. 655 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.639 Know so and we've both had goats as pets and 656 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.719 further than everything else, you know, and so yeah, that 657 00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:48.840 it made yeah, Steve delicious, but it doesn't you know, 658 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.559 we understand that, and it doesn't make sense there to. 659 00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:52.960 Be no blood. 660 00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:57.800 No, Yeah, it's mental, it's really I don't know that 661 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.800 that's super I never knew that that's really interesting. 662 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.320 Yeah, that was one of the big that was one 663 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:07.360 of the biggest things. Well, that was the main the 664 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.519 main thing that he was. That's that's when it was like, 665 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.199 all right, now, my stress level is really up here 666 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.760 because there were no signs of predation. So let's say 667 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.079 if it was there, there really aren't that many. Uh, 668 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.280 you know, animals like we don't have bobcat, we don't 669 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:25.639 have any kind of mountain cat or anything like that. 670 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:29.079 We probably have some kind of you know, a rabbit 671 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:33.519 dog or you know, or they have iguanas. 672 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.400 You know, now they have nothing like coyotes or wolves 673 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:38.320 or anything. 674 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.920 Exactly, just ia and iguana would probably just get slapped 675 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:48.159 by the goat or something like that. In real gangster 676 00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:52.119 chickens and roosters chasing iguanas stuff like that. 677 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:52.480 You know. 678 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.880 So you know, it's those things where you know, they 679 00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.679 have aggressive roosters out there because they do they come 680 00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.880 cock fighting, so they do a lot of that over 681 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:01.960 there as part of the culture. 682 00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.519 So you know, they have right. 683 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:10.800 Right, and and when when it started to get really 684 00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.480 notarized is when prize these cock fighters, these prize roosters 685 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.199 and stuff that would fight back like that you know, 686 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.159 sometimes even the owners would have a hard time going 687 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.320 into the pentagrab them so they could put the things 688 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.239 on their talents so they can go and fight or 689 00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:29.199 what have you. And these these roosters, these birds were 690 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:34.760 like really aggressive and for there to be no no sound. 691 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.119 There was no sound ever at night where you would 692 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.440 think like if if there are multiple animals on your 693 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.599 property being killed, slaughtered. 694 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:47.119 Screaming. 695 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:54.320 It's yeah, but for but for you know, for farmers 696 00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.440 who have a keen sense of hearing, because they have 697 00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.559 to keep you know, that's one of the big things. 698 00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.760 You know, you have the tip pay attention, you know, 699 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.000 audibly what's going on around you, especially if you own animals. 700 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:09.519 There are predators and stuff thieves. So you know, for 701 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.079 these farmers to wake up in the morning and then 702 00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:17.360 see entire fields full of their livestock, void of all blood, 703 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.400 void of you know, having the puncture rooms but no 704 00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.920 blood anywhere. Riga mortis again never had set in. 705 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.679 You know, this is not anything that's insane. Yeah, Like 706 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:30.440 I was on. 707 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.639 A ball farm, so we had balls like on a station, 708 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.760 and we had the neighbor's dog come and chase our balls. 709 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:38.239 And they were like three four paddocks the. 710 00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:41.480 Way, and because we never used dogs around the balls 711 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:43.559 because you try and keep them as calm as possible. 712 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.480 So we knew we were inside. We heard one ballow 713 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.360 and we knew something was up man where everyone just 714 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.960 like came from every direction because we knew instantly that 715 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.360 something was wrong and it was its bloody dogs chasing them. 716 00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.039 So yeah, so we know, you. 717 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.360 Know that these are like three four paddocks away, and 718 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:03.679 we knew, we knew straight away something was wrong. 719 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.599 And when when you're with all your animals. 720 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.440 You know, the sound, you know, distressful, you know, you know, 721 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.639 if there's anything they're running around or yeah, you're like 722 00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.400 you're saying, you are so alert to what is going 723 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.239 on around you. So it would have been devastating, you know, 724 00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:20.920 it would have been absolutely devastating for them because yeah, 725 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.880 I mean, we know, you know, if we lost a 726 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:26.280 ball or something, you know, there goes fifteen hundred dollars, right, 727 00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:28.239 So that was you know, it'd be a big, a 728 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:28.840 big thing. 729 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.719 For them, right And one of the one of the 730 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:34.119 when it started to get really it was around November, 731 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:39.320 I remember, right around Thanksgiving, and I remember that having 732 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.519 a conversation with him and he had said it was 733 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.840 like that there had been in the town of Canovanas, 734 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.119 which is heavily you know, back then everything is farmland, 735 00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.480 but back then that times in particular was you know, 736 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:57.679 very heavy in farming. And there had been thirty five 737 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:01.280 instances since I had last talked to him, like back 738 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:07.199 in August to November. They were thirty five instances. And 739 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.719 then what started to change was people saw it for 740 00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:16.480 the first time around November. So what the story was 741 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:21.199 this couple had just and again it's people. I'm not 742 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:23.679 saying that people that you know, follow any kind of 743 00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:27.239 theology or any kind of belief system, they're not capable 744 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.559 of lying. But you have to talk when you when 745 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.079 you look at someone and you're trying to you know, 746 00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.960 ascertain whether they're lying to you or not, there has 747 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:37.840 to be some kind of a gain, right, There has 748 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.480 to be some kind of notoriety, financial gain or something. 749 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.280 Right, it's going to be behind it. 750 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.800 Right, because especially if you're going to talk about something 751 00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.719 as crazy as what you're about to say, especially if 752 00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:55.000 you're someone who's you know, high end in the clergy. 753 00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:57.239 So there were the it was a pastor and his 754 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.480 wife on their way back from a service late night, 755 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.239 and they said they were driving up into the right 756 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.880 up into their driveway of their home. And the houses 757 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:11.440 in Puerto Rico are are awesome because most of them 758 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:14.000 are like if they're not in the towns or like 759 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:17.440 in the city and you're going more into like the farmland. 760 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.840 You know, your driveway can be a long, winding little 761 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.440 driveway and stuff and everything around you that you don't 762 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:30.039 use is usually just brush and shrubbery and woods and stuff. 763 00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.320 And this pastor was driving up into his driveway and 764 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.480 as soon as he took a curve right around it, 765 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:44.639 going into his actual driveway, he says there was he 766 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.519 records and he says there was this three to four 767 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:53.679 foot type being and that's when the famous drawing came 768 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:58.280 out where it was like this thing that stood on 769 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:06.400 two legs appeared reptilian in some way where it didn't 770 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.880 have any type of there wasn't for there wasn't anything 771 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.440 mammalian to it, if that makes sense. It was more 772 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:20.800 of a reptilian type looking creature, big huge eyes. And 773 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.360 what they said were like these spines that ran down 774 00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:29.840 their back, right down its back, and that it looked 775 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:34.159 at them. And they did say that there was that 776 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.280 it must have had eyelids, because when it came, when 777 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.960 the car came around the corner and the thing looked 778 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.159 at him, it blinked because the lights were so bright 779 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.880 on the on the car, the car lights were so 780 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.480 were so bright that it blinked. So they were like, 781 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.000 all right, so it you know. My father was like, 782 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:56.559 all right, so the thing has, you know, I eyelids 783 00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.519 and stuff like that. And he when my father was 784 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.199 telling me the story, it was like one of those 785 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:05.159 things where the poor man was like smoking a cigarette 786 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.880 and trying to down the thing a whiskey because he's like, 787 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:08.880 I don't know what to make of this anymore. I 788 00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:12.599 don't know what to think of it anymore because it's 789 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.880 not it's not making sense. He goes, I know, these 790 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:19.000 people they're not going to lie. They're not They don't 791 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.559 have anything to gain from this. Quite frankly, the wife 792 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.719 didn't want to say anything, but the husband was like, 793 00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:28.800 I don't know what it is. We you know, this 794 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.320 is something. You know, these people have lived there their 795 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:34.639 whole lives, and when they see something that, you know, 796 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:39.599 they they can they can't easily identify, you know, they 797 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:41.800 start to get you know, worried because there were monkeys 798 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.480 in the island. This was another thing. People were bringing 799 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.920 monkeys into the island. Now we have a population of 800 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.559 of I forgot, I don't know, like marmoset monkeys or 801 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.039 some kind of macaques or some kind of monkey in 802 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.119 Puerto Rico now. But it's because people started bringing strange animals. 803 00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.360 So now we have cam in Puerto Rico, which is 804 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:03.199 something we never had. Came in crocodiles and brought them in, 805 00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:07.280 and now there's this huge population of caman crocodiles. Some 806 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.679 people were saying, all right, well, maybe it was some 807 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:13.639 you know, somebody with money went in. They got a monkey. 808 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.800 The monkey has some kind of you know, deformed to it, 809 00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:21.239 change or some kind of deformity to it, because it's 810 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:25.320 you know, malnourished or anything could happen to whatever. This 811 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.320 is an island that's a monkey. They don't go hand 812 00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.719 in hand or what have you. And and it was 813 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.119 like until a couple of weeks had gone by, and 814 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.920 then someone else saw it again and they described the 815 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:41.400 being the same exact way. So now the island is 816 00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.920 now the island is going crazy because not only that, 817 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.159 more and more throughout the island completely. It wasn't just one. 818 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:51.840 There had to be more because all over the island 819 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:56.199 they were reporting animals with blood, you know, completely drained 820 00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.320 out of them and the same exact pattern. 821 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:02.599 Yeah, and it was like a you know, like a 822 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.159 mammal or some type of animal. It probably wouldn't have 823 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:07.800 been able to How long would it take to get 824 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.960 from one side of the island to another if you're 825 00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:12.000 kind of walking. 826 00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:15.280 Or yeah, the island super small. I mean I can 827 00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:16.960 go from one end to the island to the other 828 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:17.800 in an hour and a half. 829 00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:20.599 Oh okay, you know what I mean. 830 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:23.159 Driving, Yeah, you drive it. You can drive the island, 831 00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.000 you know, east to west to south and and you'll 832 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.639 you'll be you're you're fine. You do yourself a disservice 833 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:32.400 because you're supposed to be, you know, going off to beat. 834 00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:37.840 We heard a contact we're talking about visiting today. 835 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:47.000 So the Bacardi distillery, that's right, priorities, priorities. Right before 836 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.920 you go looking for cryptids, you got to stop by 837 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.920 the Bricardi distillery there after. 838 00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.880 Good plug there, but well done drug half of all 839 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:00.400 Bacardi fun. 840 00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.800 So like obviously your your father's like you know down 841 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.239 in whiskey kind of getting these stories coming in and 842 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.519 getting an influx and a flood of you know, probably 843 00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.760 really freaked out people and starting to kind of roll, 844 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.480 you know, like as it does, all of these kind 845 00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.679 of encounters start coming in inside things and stories, and 846 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.320 people start getting really fearful and kind. 847 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.800 Of losing it a little bit. So how did how 848 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:27.960 did your dad deal with that? How was he? 849 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.519 Was he quite a straight laced sort of guy or 850 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:35.119 did he kind of did you know, skip around it, 851 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.679 or was he kind of more like I can I 852 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:41.480 know I have a connection understanding with the supernet from 853 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.880 maybe that this is something. 854 00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:49.360 Around that my father. My father left because this so 855 00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.800 this originally started sometime around ninety five, like I would say, 856 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.960 sometime around March, and he stopped pretty much dealing with 857 00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:03.800 it in December. And here's where it starts to get 858 00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:07.119 a little bit more of the so, like we were 859 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:11.480 talking about, I was on YouTube watching all these awesome 860 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.840 bigfoot videos and awesome bigfoot shows, and I would notice 861 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.719 that the and this is where I believe, you know, 862 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:24.280 Uncle Sam kind of starts to I want to say, 863 00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:31.679 censor and intervene and unplug when you get too close 864 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:38.400 to the truth. You know, sometimes you get phone calls, 865 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.000 and I noticed a bunch of TV shows. So right, 866 00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:43.480 I'll give you an example. I used to watch this 867 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:48.000 guy called the Turtleman in the United States. The Turtleman, 868 00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:50.519 Now he would he was the type of guy. He 869 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.760 was like this what they would call like a redneck 870 00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:57.400 hillbilly that would go into these things and go get 871 00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:59.960 snapping turtles and then he would release them into like 872 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.960 this snapping turtle sanctuary or whatever. And he was just 873 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.760 a really colorful fellow. He was awesome, funny, great. I 874 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.079 used to watch him on YouTube all the time. All 875 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:13.639 of a sudden, he, I don't know what, you propelled 876 00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.320 him to go the other way and he started doing 877 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.239 bigfoot hunting. The thing was in Georgia, in Georgia and 878 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.920 the state of Georgia. The thing was that on a 879 00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:30.440 couple of his a couple of his videos, he ended 880 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:35.039 up getting rocks thrown at him. There were sounds, there 881 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.119 were a couple of things that he forgot to edit out. 882 00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:40.679 And I'll see if I can send them to you 883 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.719 so you can see what I'm talking about. Where No 884 00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:48.599 sooner do these last three episodes of him hunting for 885 00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:54.559 bigfoot where I mean not only footprints, but the bigfoot 886 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.960 was leaving things behind for him and stuff, and there 887 00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.400 was like this interaction all of a sudden, from one 888 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:04.679 day to the next, Turtleman drops the show. You don't 889 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:07.480 hear anything else about Turtleman. You don't even hear anything 890 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:12.440 else about the show. Okay. So that's just one out 891 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.760 of a couple of that I've seen that once you 892 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.199 start to get too close to the truths, they don't 893 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.039 care about Oh, you found a footprint, cool because they 894 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:24.920 could talk it up to some kid being silly in 895 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.360 the woods or whatever, even though who the heck would 896 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.480 wear Who the heck would have a size seventeen foot 897 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:32.400 you know, in the middle of the mud whatever, or 898 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.079 like in Puerto Rico, the Chupacabra, where they would find, 899 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.519 you know, these these footprints of three It was almost 900 00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:41.480 like a reptilian again, reptilian footprints and stuff, and they 901 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:46.559 would have these footprints and stuff. Okay, So what kind 902 00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:51.320 of a reptile walks on two legs and has enough 903 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.639 heft in its body to leave a footprint behind. Yeah, 904 00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:58.800 So when you start asking these questions, because the anecdotal 905 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:03.079 evidence starts to point that they're being a real something real, 906 00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:08.079 There a real interaction there. You don't know who's gonna 907 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:13.039 call you. So I remember that when, you know, when 908 00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:17.559 a couple of the police officers started to ask certain 909 00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.760 questions and we're you know, we're getting close to what 910 00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:29.480 they felt was the truth. An American agency showed up, 911 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.000 even though Puerto Rico is part of the United States 912 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:35.599 and both of the United States, you know, Uncle Sam 913 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:41.000 showed up and uh told the locals and everyone else 914 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:47.360 you have, we're going to take over. We don't think 915 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.840 it's anything, but we're going to take over the investigation. 916 00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:58.519 And well, yeah, exactly exactly. And you know, not do 917 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.800 I believe in the men in black? Do I believe 918 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.320 in you know, government agencies know exactly what we're dealing 919 00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:08.119 with here. Yeah, yeaheah, I I one hundred percent to 920 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.000 you know. That doesn't take away anything from my my 921 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.039 my my, my clearances or anything like that, but this 922 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.400 is it's the truth. You know, when you get too 923 00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:22.000 close to finding out the truth, things start to happen, 924 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.320 things disappear, things are swept under the world here for us, like. 925 00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:31.840 We've we've we've mentioned the wrong people and the wrong places. 926 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:35.079 Can all of a sudden that podcasts are gone, like our 927 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.440 interviews are gone. It's just like nothing, and you know, 928 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:41.400 Lisa and I will well we'll talk about you know, 929 00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:43.079 like you you go down a little bit of a 930 00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.360 rab about how you start to go about conspiracies and 931 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:47.199 you know how this could work or this could work. 932 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:50.320 And then you know, we've had our phone calls like 933 00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:51.119 it's been so funny. 934 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.239 It's like clicked, like we're just like hello, it's really 935 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:54.800 funny house. 936 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.320 You know, all phone calls have literally dropped gone, and 937 00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.719 it's just like okay, I can't call Anyboddy. 938 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:04.440 So you know, so we always joke about it, but 939 00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:05.480 you know there is that like a. 940 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.840 Little bit of seriousness sometime because we know when we've 941 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.480 kind of gone down a little bit of a rabbit hole, 942 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:14.039 we really start discussing stuff that kind of happens, you know. 943 00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.800 But yeah, we've definitely lost you know, like interviews and 944 00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:21.559 when we've done podcasts and we've mentioned stuff and then 945 00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.000 they've just gone and they're just like n spend banned 946 00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:30.079 and be like okay, you know, find since to ourselves. Now, 947 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:33.880 we're very very careful about what we put on Instagram 948 00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:34.880 and YouTube. 949 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.719 And you know, and stuff like that one hundred percent. 950 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:41.000 But even those conversations that we have over cell phone, 951 00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.480 we know that at the moment that we start talking 952 00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:47.320 about something that's sensitive and be it any sort of 953 00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:51.880 cryptid conversations anything to do with Papua New Guinea, I 954 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:53.960 can say that because we're on Zoom and we're not 955 00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:59.480 live anywhere, anything to do with P and G Australia, America. 956 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.880 You can't do those things in the same box. 957 00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:03.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 958 00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.239 As soon as we start talking about anything like that, 959 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.119 our phones are ACKed up pretty damn quickly. And with ever, 960 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:14.159 like if we I get off my phone, like stop it, 961 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:16.840 try to have a business conversation. So now we just 962 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:19.480 talk quickly to them and we're like, we know you're listening. 963 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.320 It's literally go ahead and have a conversation next to 964 00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:30.360 somebody while you're on Facebook or even whatever. Well, you know, 965 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.679 my wife and I were talking about, oh you have 966 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.000 to I want to buy a pull out couch andver, 967 00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:39.480 and all of a sudden, all these advertisements for as. 968 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:40.480 In that Dane. 969 00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.159 Even if you turn off all that kind of stuff going, no, 970 00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:44.679 you can't listen to me bye bye. 971 00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.039 Every single time it's. 972 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:54.280 Yeah, at whoever, whatever agency is attached to monitoring me, whatever, 973 00:53:54.480 --> 00:54:01.199 get you know, strap in and get ready for the ride. 974 00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:10.039 Lewis sorry, yeah do you think so? Sorry, you're freezing 975 00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:17.559 out back able connection. So Jewels go ahead and ask 976 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:18.039 that question. 977 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.960 So my thing is like, from the fact that there's 978 00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:26.599 been so many UFO kind of sightings and stuff like 979 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:30.000 that through the years, do you, like, from your point 980 00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:32.840 of view, do you think it's like a physical thing, 981 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:37.280 like a possibly you know, like something that's come down 982 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.760 like an alien type creature or you were saying about 983 00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:45.880 the interdimensional stuff, and you know, like over here they 984 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:50.280 believe that yaoi's are interdimensional. People have literally seen yaowie's 985 00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:56.880 basically go from a solid form into basically dislike nothingness 986 00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.480 and then slipping between rocks. It's a very kind of 987 00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:02.960 it's a big thing here, you know. So they're saying 988 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.880 as this kind of interdimensional that's where they disappear into. 989 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.519 What's kind of like, what's your views, what's your feeling 990 00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:10.639 on what do. 991 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:11.400 You think that they are? 992 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:19.480 I'm I'm I want to say that I do follow 993 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:25.960 a certain faith and I believe in the interdimensional possibility 994 00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:35.079 where I believe that some of these interactions with these 995 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:43.079 creatures could be a creature that's from another dimension, something 996 00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:47.280 like a tupa cabra, something like some sometimes you know 997 00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:53.159 they talk about like the shape shifters out in the 998 00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:58.480 Skinwalker Ranch, whether it be you know, things like that. 999 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:03.000 I believe those could be you know, interdimensional spiritual maybe 1000 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.119 something like a bigfoot or something like that. I think 1001 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:12.920 those are maybe like an actual species. I think it's 1002 00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.559 a species. It is some type of Neanderthal that just 1003 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:19.960 the government. That's why we have these federal you know, 1004 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.920 federal properties, federal parks. Uh these uh, state parks that 1005 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.679 you can't really go into. You know, you can go 1006 00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.320 but for so far, and then after that you don't 1007 00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.679 go past that. There's this book there written by this 1008 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.639 awesome guy named David Politis who was a police officer 1009 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:41.760 who you know, wrote about these encounters in these state 1010 00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.599 parks and why so many people go missing in the 1011 00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:50.679 state parks. You'll have somebody like let's say you, Juliette 1012 00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:53.000 and myself, we go on a hike up you know, 1013 00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:55.360 a certain way, and then all of a sudden we 1014 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:57.719 look back and or you both look back and I'm gone, 1015 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.480 you know, And nobody heard me get taken. Nobody. You 1016 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:06.239 just look back and I'm completely gone, and these are 1017 00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:14.079 I mean, you know, I'm so I have to be 1018 00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:19.559 able to experience something like that in order to make 1019 00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.400 whatever theories I have bouncing in my head, you know, 1020 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:27.320 solidify one of them. Are they an interdimensional being? Or 1021 00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:31.639 is this part of an evolutionary process to some species 1022 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.280 that we haven't seen yet because they're skited, they're super skittish, 1023 00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:41.480 or and they just know maybe interactions with humans before 1024 00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:45.159 that haven't said anything. We're negative and all this other stuff. 1025 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:48.960 Who knows, I don't know, but I do know that 1026 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.559 it was around it was around December more or less, 1027 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.920 where we have a public newspaper on the island called 1028 00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.559 the Vosseo or the it's called the Announcement basically in English, 1029 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:04.800 that's the translation of the Baletto, and the Buzzetto was infamous. 1030 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.280 It literally had to tone down because it was a 1031 00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:10.800 kind of publication where you'd go into like a supermarket 1032 00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:14.880 and the publication was right there. Front page was some 1033 00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.880 kind of murder and it was and it was and 1034 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:20.119 it was graphic. It was like they didn't edit the 1035 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:26.000 picture and what was ironic. You know, it would be 1036 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:28.239 like it would be the publication would be like in 1037 00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:30.119 the lower shelves and stuff like that. So if you're 1038 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:33.199 a kid, you're walking by an eye level with somebody 1039 00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:36.880 looking at, you know, the person that's been murdered in 1040 00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.199 a horrific way, and stuff like that. So they toned 1041 00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:41.760 it down where they started kind of putting those stories 1042 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:46.840 into the thing. But interestingly enough went right around I 1043 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.599 think it was I want to say it was around 1044 00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:52.880 December when they kind of started to it started to 1045 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.159 get huge. I mean, people in the United States were 1046 00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.719 talking about the Chupacabra. They were T shirts made. I 1047 00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:02.239 think I still have mine. Definitely won't it definitely won't fit. 1048 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:05.519 But it's one of it. It's it's a They had 1049 00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.239 T shirt and stuff, and you know with the alien 1050 00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:10.239 with the claws and all this other stuff, and you know, 1051 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.280 people vendors were making, you know, hundreds of dollars selling 1052 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.679 all the stuff. And because now you know, musicians were 1053 00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:20.039 making songs about them. You know, people were you know, 1054 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:25.679 you know, the parodies and stuff like that, and and 1055 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.400 and and it was interesting when the Rossetto had gone 1056 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:32.360 in and done it did a story about it, and 1057 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.480 it did discuss the possibility of this being some type 1058 00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:41.280 of alien, some type of alien that it's close to 1059 00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:45.039 the Bermuda triangle. This is an alien that needed some 1060 00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:51.039 type of biological sustenance and it chose for whatever reason, 1061 00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:56.639 animal blood and because any other sign because again they 1062 00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:00.320 were saying, any other signs of animal predation, if it 1063 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.920 was a rabbit and whatever, they would be that riga 1064 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.960 mortis that would set in to the animal and for 1065 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:07.400 the animal to still be warm to the touch and 1066 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.800 still be that pliable. And you know, so once that 1067 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.400 came out, all of a sudden, these phone calls started 1068 01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.360 coming into the office where you know, my father would 1069 01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.280 get like, you know, phone calls from higher ups and saying, 1070 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:26.840 all right, let's just end this. It's getting too out 1071 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:30.480 of control. It's something that we need to, you know, 1072 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:33.440 kind of start putting a little shade on it, and 1073 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.840 it has to go away. So regardless, if you get 1074 01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:42.280 any more phone calls, regardless, if you get any more issues, 1075 01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.840 any more animals that come up, whatever, then that's just it. 1076 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.199 The people can go ahead and submit a claim to 1077 01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:52.800 the Commonwealth and if we consider it valid and it's 1078 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.679 part of this whole phenomenon animal dead, warm, still, whatever, 1079 01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.960 We'll link it to this, to the phenomenon whatever, and 1080 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.760 then there'll be some kind of financial restitution for the 1081 01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:08.280 family for the animals that they've lost. But that was it. 1082 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:13.000 That was basically the nice way of saying, stop, were. 1083 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.559 There any autopsies done on, you know, obviously on any 1084 01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:19.000 of these animals as to try and figure out why 1085 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:20.480 the rigul mortars wouldn't. 1086 01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:24.320 Sit in or Yeah, So that was one thing that 1087 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.039 I never we never really talked about. He never really 1088 01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.800 brought up. They were definitely autopsies. I mean, you would 1089 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:34.079 see the videos of the old videos of the you know, 1090 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.599 the pickup trucks the police department have with all the 1091 01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:38.559 livestock in the back and stuff like that. So they're 1092 01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:41.039 gonna definitely take it out to a veterinarian, so the 1093 01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:45.800 veterinarian can assess, you know, the cause. But it was 1094 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:50.199 definitely not something that the coroner or the you know, 1095 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:54.360 the autopsy would yield anything because if there's another pham, 1096 01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.320 So the way that they do it is if you know, 1097 01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:04.320 you you have those types of processes, you know, coroner 1098 01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.639 or veterinarian or anything like that where it's it has 1099 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:10.840 to deal with a crime. They have specific people that 1100 01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:13.239 they go to. It's not difficult to have a three 1101 01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.639 letter agency call these individuals, find out where these things 1102 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:19.920 are and saying, you know, whenever whatever gets released, send 1103 01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:20.679 it to us here. 1104 01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:22.199 Yeah, and no one else. 1105 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.159 You make no comments of anything out there. 1106 01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:31.159 Yeah. Yeah, they ever been known to attack people. 1107 01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:36.800 No, So there was one case and let me see, 1108 01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:37.599 I think you. 1109 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:41.800 Christian Juliet, can I just throw that at you, great 1110 01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:43.840 Christian local vampire. 1111 01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:48.199 There was this one time. 1112 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:52.880 November actually and if I yeah, it was around November. 1113 01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.480 So there was a man working on in his yard. 1114 01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:01.159 He says that there was a He hears brush and 1115 01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:04.039 stuff moving in the back and the end he feels 1116 01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.440 a sharp pain. When he turns around, he sees what 1117 01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:12.199 he describes as some kind of a hairless monkey on him, 1118 01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.800 trying to bite at him. Uh, there were scratches. There 1119 01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:20.880 were like you know, deep gouging scratches on him, which 1120 01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:24.800 were only like three, like three scratches. 1121 01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:28.000 The footprints, doesn't it right? 1122 01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:32.679 And the gentleman for you know, again, these are these 1123 01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:36.639 are farmers, they're not you know, biologists there for him 1124 01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.480 it was a hairless monkey. Yeah, because how else is 1125 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:43.639 he gonna pay a reptilion thing that on two legs whatever. 1126 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.000 So for him, it was a hairless monkey, and it 1127 01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:52.480 bit me. Once it saw that I outmatched him, it 1128 01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:56.000 got off of him, it ran and stuff. Never again 1129 01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.400 was that man spoken to by the media, which was 1130 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:02.880 interesting because he was the only one that had been 1131 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:07.760 documented to have been attacked by the tupacabra. And interesting enough, 1132 01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:11.440 it stops in it stops. And this is where one 1133 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:15.719 of my other theories I think, and it's not been substantiated, 1134 01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:20.079 but no, sooner does the whole thing with the livestock 1135 01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:23.400 and editing stops. It literally almost like stopped one day 1136 01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:29.000 to the next. There were the farmers stopped experiencing loss. 1137 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.320 There weren't any phone calls anymore of this little cryptid 1138 01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:35.840 running around in the you know, in the in the 1139 01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:39.440 in the farm you know, in the rural areas and stuff. 1140 01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:43.840 And then it switches over to the United States. But 1141 01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:45.880 then the tupacaba in the United States is a completely 1142 01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:46.719 totally different an. 1143 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.320 So that was my that was gonna be my question. 1144 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:51.679 I was like, where's the comparison is? 1145 01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:51.719 It? 1146 01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:53.599 Just we don't know what it is. 1147 01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:55.800 So we're going to call it this or was that 1148 01:04:55.920 --> 01:05:03.239 a systemated change so that the Puerto Rican stuff that 1149 01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.239 was going on is now seen as it was a dog, 1150 01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:09.639 because that's what I always thought it was until you've 1151 01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:11.239 just brought up the fact that it was a three 1152 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:13.239 foot kind of alien species, and I'm. 1153 01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:17.679 Like, it was right. And if you look at the pictures, 1154 01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:19.960 if you look up the troop of Cable and Puerto Rico, 1155 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:24.800 the drawings of what it is compared to what people 1156 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.039 are seeing out in Texas and in Mexico in the 1157 01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:31.400 south of the border, it's a completely different and it's 1158 01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:33.880 more of a canine. It's more of a hair dog, 1159 01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:37.079 and it's actually yeah, yeah, and. 1160 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:39.199 You can tell that some of them are like either 1161 01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:41.079 a coyote or wolf or something with mate. 1162 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:42.679 I mean, you know, you can tell that. 1163 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.440 And anybody from you know, like we're saying, anybody who's 1164 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:47.599 come from like a background and farming and you have 1165 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:49.400 been around that kind of stuff, it's they'll kind of 1166 01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:49.840 look at and. 1167 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:50.880 Go, yeah, I know what that is. 1168 01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:54.599 But then there is that whole other other side that 1169 01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:56.840 is like these crazy attacks have now. 1170 01:05:56.719 --> 01:05:59.039 Started there and literally so. 1171 01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:02.239 What about the Hobville Goblin, Right there was a story 1172 01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:06.559 about these girls that that found this Hobsonville goblin, that 1173 01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:10.039 was this little creature that was running around terrorizing, like. 1174 01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:12.440 You know, these three girls, these sisters or whatever down 1175 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:13.760 the street. And it was. 1176 01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:17.480 Bipedal, and it was little, and it looked like almost 1177 01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:21.199 what I would think the original Tupicabra looked like it 1178 01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:23.800 had these you know, little three feet things, and it 1179 01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.000 had like spiky ears and that sort of stuff. So 1180 01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:31.559 is there a comparison between those two now? 1181 01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:36.159 Look at look at the situation in in because again, 1182 01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:39.559 the media, when and when it's something so absolutely massive 1183 01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:47.079 and and and supernatural, they throw this huge story. They 1184 01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:49.280 spin the story around, They add humor to it to 1185 01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:53.239 try to pacify it. They'll have late night talk show 1186 01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:55.559 hosts bring it up and kind of poke fun at it, 1187 01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:59.000 so that, you know, because we're we're the type they're 1188 01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:02.880 hoping right there will be like, oh, stupid me, Yeah, 1189 01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:07.519 I'm silly. It's just some kind of a animal with mange, 1190 01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:11.639 and this is it, you know, the blood. Maybe something 1191 01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:13.760 has to do with the fact that because one of 1192 01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:17.360 the theories was the reason the animals weren't rigamortis or whatever, 1193 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:19.360 is because they were in a tropical setting and there 1194 01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.559 was you know, you know anything, and I'm. 1195 01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:29.159 Like, that has just dried up. Yeah, it makes sense. 1196 01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:32.119 And they did get mortars because it was nice and warm, 1197 01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:34.760 and they would just say, oh, humid. 1198 01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.880 Before it drained. Its body had a margarita was laying 1199 01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:42.400 out in the nice feather, so you know, and you 1200 01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:45.119 start looking at these things and and like, give you 1201 01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:48.519 an example. You all heard what happened in Miami. Uh, 1202 01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:52.920 the whole thing with the big, these big, gigantic seven 1203 01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:57.559 foot humanoids that appeared in Miami. Now I can't that 1204 01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:00.719 is too close. I'll talk about that one a little 1205 01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:04.599 bit if you don't mind just a resecond. That was 1206 01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:11.079 really close. Because my agency is out of Florida, my 1207 01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:16.159 base is out of Florida. And I'll say this that 1208 01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:23.119 the story was that there were some kids pop taking shots. 1209 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:25.479 They had heard either fireworks and then some people said 1210 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:28.359 there was a fight, then they heard fireworks, potential shots 1211 01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:31.399 called I've been in law enforcement for a long time. 1212 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:36.119 You never throw that many guns at a situation where 1213 01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:41.399 there's kids potentially. There were police departments nine one one 1214 01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:45.199 had been shut down. I mean, it was huge, and 1215 01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:49.079 the amount of people that were coming forward and saying 1216 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.560 this is what we saw. There was no such there. 1217 01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:55.880 The media is lying these two big entities whatever all 1218 01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:58.159 of a sudden, do you hear anything about that anymore? 1219 01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:02.319 I'm pretty gone, gone, gone gone. 1220 01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.159 That was the first thing, right. 1221 01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:06.600 Juliet and I were like, we saw that come up 1222 01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:10.199 on TikTok or Instagram or whatever, and we were both. 1223 01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:15.000 Like, why so many cops? Yeah, why like three hundred. 1224 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:19.680 Police units or something ridiculous like that, even to a shooting. 1225 01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:22.760 To a mall shooting, You're not gonna get that many cops. 1226 01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:24.880 Number one, it's a traffic nightmare. 1227 01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:27.880 Number two, most of those cop cars can't even get 1228 01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:28.840 to the bloody mall. 1229 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:32.159 And number three, like that is stupid. 1230 01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:35.239 You need police on the ground outside of the mall 1231 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:39.319 to maintain public safety and everything else. We were like, 1232 01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.199 there is something real strange going on with that one 1233 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:43.039 that is not right. 1234 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.399 And all I'll say is, can you imagine the amount 1235 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:54.199 of phones that needed to be replaced? Yeah, because once 1236 01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:57.840 you get I'll just once you get past a certain 1237 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:02.760 level of questioning or in interrogation, you may or may 1238 01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:04.640 not see your electronics again. You may get a little 1239 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:10.560 voucher to replace the property or what have you. But 1240 01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:13.000 other than that, yeah, so what if it saw if 1241 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:15.319 there were because in this day and age, everybody has 1242 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:18.880 one of these on the phone, right, so if there 1243 01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:22.560 was like HD quality video of what happened, you're never 1244 01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:24.720 gonna see it. You're never gonna see it. But what 1245 01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:29.800 you did see was when they released this one police officer, 1246 01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:33.039 you can look in his face because they made it. 1247 01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:34.760 They made it a cartoon kind of like. So the 1248 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:38.399 police officers released a statement, Miami Day Police released a statement. 1249 01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:42.439 This police officer read the statement and then he goes, 1250 01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.199 trust me, he said something on there are no aliens 1251 01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:47.840 or whatever. Then this little gift of an alien comes 1252 01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:50.239 by and he like acts like he's looking at it, 1253 01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:52.479 and it just disappears. So they turned it into this joke. 1254 01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:56.039 Right when you look at this man reading this statement, 1255 01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:00.479 you can literally see the struggling, the look in his 1256 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:04.920 face of here in number one, I'm lying, I'm bullshitting 1257 01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.960 you on that. This is one hundred percent bullshit the 1258 01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:13.000 line I'm giving you. And number two, there was no 1259 01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:16.640 spit in his mouth. There was almost it was you, 1260 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:19.640 I'll send it to you. It was so amazing to 1261 01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:22.000 see the way that they try to cover that up. 1262 01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:24.039 And it's the same way with any cryptid. The same 1263 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:27.920 thing with the chupacabra. You get too close or when 1264 01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:32.239 there are too many questions, too many good pertnant questions, 1265 01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:36.760 like you said, the tupacaba and Puerto Rico looks completely 1266 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:38.680 different than the one that they've seen in Mexico and 1267 01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:41.039 then the one they've seen in Texas and stuff. Right, 1268 01:11:41.479 --> 01:11:44.479 that one is like a dog. It's a canine, a 1269 01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:49.079 hairless canine or what have you. Still doesn't explain. The 1270 01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.239 puncture wounds, still doesn't explain. 1271 01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:54.760 And three puncture wounds that always really got me. If 1272 01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:57.920 it was a canine, they have two canines. We know 1273 01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:02.560 this because it has it. If it was a cat, 1274 01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:07.239 it has two canines. Again, so having three puncture marks, 1275 01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:10.199 where does that? Where does the food come from? 1276 01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:19.760 An exact diameter hole, same exact diameter hole, same exact pattern, 1277 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.920 three puncture wounds. What if it's an animal like something 1278 01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:26.159 like that, like the chupacabda, like let's say, in in 1279 01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:29.840 in Texas or in Mexico, it would obviously be like 1280 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.199 a canine, so you would have, you know, puncture wounds 1281 01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:37.760 in the bottom for the bottom teeth is right, because. 1282 01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:39.399 They go they tear out. 1283 01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:42.119 You know, that's very really that a dog will it go, 1284 01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:44.960 They will tear, they will shake and there are tear marks. 1285 01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:45.319 Yeah. 1286 01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:49.319 Right, So there's no, it's not that animal. You look 1287 01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:51.359 at that animal and you can tell it's a sloppy eater. 1288 01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:53.680 It's not going to take its time and fit down 1289 01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:57.800 eyes the chicken and be like look into my eyes, 1290 01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.800 you know, like like Dracula and try to entice you know. 1291 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:06.399 The chicken falls, you know, to its island and all 1292 01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:09.720 of a sudden it wakes up or doesn't wake up, 1293 01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:13.960 and it's you know in Grandma student, you know, so 1294 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:20.960 it's it's it's not. It wasn't a thing that the 1295 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:23.880 government was willing and still to this day to talk about, 1296 01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:27.199 you know, but they'll release they'll release the CIA will 1297 01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:31.279 release those UFO. They go to Congress and say, listen, 1298 01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:34.960 I'm telling you right now that was a UFO and 1299 01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:37.800 it was following this navy ship and all this other stuff. 1300 01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:41.359 And so it guys in the theory of kind of 1301 01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:44.560 what we were talking about a few kind of lives 1302 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.760 back with the hybrids. You know, is this a hybrid 1303 01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:49.239 that was kind of made and they were like, oh, 1304 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:50.520 that's probably not really working. 1305 01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:52.079 Let's kind of mix up a little bit and chuck 1306 01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:53.960 it over this side and say what happens. 1307 01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:56.159 You know, it's like, you know, you've got to look 1308 01:13:56.159 --> 01:13:57.960 at that because it's like the same type of things happening, 1309 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.760 but it looks completely different, but you know, has so 1310 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:05.680 then similarities. But yeah, and so then you've got two 1311 01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:09.560 pathways on that, right, So if it's a hybrid, it's 1312 01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:14.680 either an alien or something like that hybrid that has 1313 01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:17.920 been dormant for many years and has finally kind of 1314 01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:23.840 snuck back into the world andrase escape Pit. Yeah, said 1315 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:27.279 they've been sleeping in a cave, woken up, defrosted themselves, whatever, 1316 01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:29.359 and have come out to cause havoc on the. 1317 01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:30.479 Goats of Puerto Rico. 1318 01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:37.600 Or the second option, seriously, but the second option is 1319 01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:44.000 it's military, right, It's some form of military hybridization program. 1320 01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:46.119 And I know a lot of theories around Bigfoot and 1321 01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:48.760 Mothman and that sort of stuff that they are too, 1322 01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.600 you know, genetically engineered or whatever mutations of these military 1323 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:56.239 kind of deep cover. 1324 01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:59.439 Places that run through the states and stuff. 1325 01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:01.520 I mean, we don't have that in New Zealand. Because 1326 01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:03.479 we don't have enough money. We've only got an air 1327 01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:03.960 force of. 1328 01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:06.760 Three aeroplanes and one helicopter and we're pretty stroke bluck. 1329 01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:13.119 We need some gaffer tape on it. Sure, we'll fix that. 1330 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:15.800 There's literally it's all all. But thank you very much 1331 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:19.560 Hallan Clark for that. But we are one hundred not lying. Okay, 1332 01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:21.039 we are bag on threat. 1333 01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:27.279 I've met some folks from overseas and yeah, it's glum. 1334 01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:28.239 It's a little glum. 1335 01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:29.720 It's pretty sad times. 1336 01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.079 But when we see things in the sky, we know 1337 01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:35.880 it's not military, right because there's just no way. We 1338 01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:38.000 live in a tiny, wee little island that's you know, 1339 01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:41.520 at the past end of the world. So when we 1340 01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:44.279 have things like dog man sightings in New Zealand, we 1341 01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:48.000 have Moiho men, which are you know, wild men, hearing men. 1342 01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:53.079 We have these giant birds, huge huge eagles of you know, 1343 01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:57.640 eight foot across it's absolutely insane wingspan that's said to 1344 01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.319 be housed up in Section twenty five at the. 1345 01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:01.520 Top of the North Island. 1346 01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.119 And all of this sort of stuff that gets you thinking, 1347 01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:07.800 is there a hybridization program going on through the military. 1348 01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:14.199 Yes, I believe it. I'll give you an example. So 1349 01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:17.640 right in Connecticut, I mean the state of Connecticut. I'll 1350 01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:23.199 just say we just there's this one island off the coast. 1351 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:28.520 It's called Plum Island, and it's called Plum Animal Research Island. Yes, 1352 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.760 And out of that, there's right close to that island 1353 01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:36.560 there is this the island of Montalk. And I want 1354 01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:38.119 you if I don't know, if you've ever heard of 1355 01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:42.319 the Montalk Monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was 1356 01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.880 you saw the picture of it. It looked like some 1357 01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:52.560 kind of of a like a pig slash, dog slash 1358 01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:56.239 birds now beak just bizarre. 1359 01:16:56.319 --> 01:16:57.960 So bizar look just. 1360 01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:02.640 Right, yeah and sing enough? Mon Talk is just right 1361 01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:06.560 next door to Plumb Island animal research. Do I believe 1362 01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:14.119 that at some point the the US along with another country, 1363 01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.119 had you know, some kind of a animal research plan 1364 01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:23.560 and projects. Yeah, I believe it. I believe these things 1365 01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:29.119 can be that. I lean more towards it being some 1366 01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:34.359 kind of biological warfare, maybe like how much let's say 1367 01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:37.479 you released something like the troop of cabra out in uh, 1368 01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:41.840 you know, a country where the enemy is heavily dependent 1369 01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:45.960 on the revenue that they get from livestock. So if 1370 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:50.239 you create some kind of a creature that will grow 1371 01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:55.000 and become a nuisance type of creature. And by the 1372 01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:59.359 time the thing gets identified, by the time you know, 1373 01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:03.399 the first hunter gets its first pass to hunt these things, 1374 01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:07.439 they've already decimated billions of dollars worth of loss for 1375 01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:13.479 you know, for you know, the country. So do I. 1376 01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:17.680 Pastest way to control the country? Isn't it the economy? Right? 1377 01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:20.720 Absolutely? And here's the thing. If you go ahead and 1378 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.079 you do that, I mean, who's gonna how are you 1379 01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:26.439 going to trace that animal? It's an animal. It's an animal. 1380 01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:29.840 Put the blame on any and either. So it's just 1381 01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:32.199 like just yeah, I'm. 1382 01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.760 Kind of a weird animal that's become this this thing, 1383 01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:38.119 and I'm sorry it's decimated your farmland and it's you know, 1384 01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:40.960 costed you X amount of money and all this other stuff. 1385 01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:44.439 And you know, yeah, I do believe that there have 1386 01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:49.920 been uh, you know, hybridizations of not only animals, but 1387 01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:55.199 I believe even probably humans have been you know, can 1388 01:18:55.239 --> 01:18:59.119 Bigfoot be something like that? You know, is you know, 1389 01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:01.520 they people go back to the Biblical times where they're 1390 01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:04.760 calling Bigfoot probably you know, a descendant of what they 1391 01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:08.880 called the Nephelin you know, and you know where it's 1392 01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:10.920 in the Book of I believe it was in the 1393 01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:13.439 Book of Genesis where it said that you know, the 1394 01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:18.359 daughters of men had you know, children with the sons 1395 01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:21.600 of God, and they were and there were these big men. 1396 01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:25.840 There are these big, gigantic men of renown giants like 1397 01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:27.680 the light and stuff like that. And then you go 1398 01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:30.680 out and they do these excavations and they find these 1399 01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.640 skeletons that are like gigantic and stuff like that, you know, 1400 01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:36.079 and they're like, no, no, no, we didn't find anything there. 1401 01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:41.399 It just takes them all and then destroy something. Lewis, 1402 01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:43.840 don't get me started on giants. That's my that's my 1403 01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:48.439 jam right like, that's my happy place. And there's you know, 1404 01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:52.119 there's giant bones that have been found throughout Australia, throughout. 1405 01:19:51.800 --> 01:19:54.520 New Zealand and have systematically disappeared. 1406 01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:57.000 My dad's seeing giant bones. He used to work for 1407 01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:02.119 the Department of Conservation. There's mini, mini, mini of this stuff. 1408 01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:06.960 My mom's husband is part of a maorried tribe or 1409 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:09.880 an Ewe is what we call them up in Gisbon 1410 01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:12.359 at the kind of east coast of the North Island 1411 01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:14.920 and New Zealand. And he says to me, oh, yeah, 1412 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:17.560 we used to have a giant he was our chief. 1413 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:18.880 And I was like joking. 1414 01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:21.279 He was like, no, no, he's a he's a same 1415 01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:24.119 last name as him. He goes, he's my descendant. He 1416 01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:26.000 was only a few generations back. 1417 01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:28.840 Was joking. He was like no, no, he was like 1418 01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:32.039 fourteen foot taol. He was massive. Yeah, blah blah blah. 1419 01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:34.319 Tell me all the story about the giant chief that 1420 01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:37.800 he had. And as I started looking into it. 1421 01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:41.439 Almost every single ewe the different tribes throughout New Zealand, 1422 01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:46.479 these multi tribes had these huge giants as chiefs and 1423 01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:47.760 they would fight each other. 1424 01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:50.640 Yeah, absolutely insane. 1425 01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:54.560 What what what would stop? What would stop you know, 1426 01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:59.479 someone like that or you know, animals from experiencing that 1427 01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:03.279 type of growth or or something or I know there 1428 01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:05.520 was a story going back, even when I was in 1429 01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:09.560 the military, story going back to the giant in Kandahart. 1430 01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:13.439 I don't know if you heard that story. And and 1431 01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:17.359 and the people noticed that the people that were involved 1432 01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:23.439 in that operation, they were Special Forces soldiers. These aren't 1433 01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:26.079 just your run of the mill grunt like you know, 1434 01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:30.279 or somebody that just you know, just got there uh, 1435 01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:34.399 you know an hour before the operation. These are experienced, skilled, 1436 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:40.399 highly highly skilled soldiers. And for that report to have 1437 01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:44.359 come back, and for most of those soldiers to have 1438 01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:50.479 had them, you know, their mouths shut except for one 1439 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:54.399 who came forward with the story. That's that's when it 1440 01:21:54.479 --> 01:22:01.000 starts to you, you know that there's a different The 1441 01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:06.000 government is obviously protecting these animals or these things. They 1442 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:08.560 know exactly what they are, they know where they are, 1443 01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:11.680 they know how many there are. I'm sure there's a 1444 01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:17.520 pop there's a population control when certain there were going 1445 01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:21.119 to back of saying I remember reading somewhere where uh 1446 01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:25.239 if if for every time that there's a missing hiker 1447 01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:28.279 or they start to get you know, a lot of 1448 01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:31.319 certain regions like in Washington State would get you know, 1449 01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:35.159 reports of missing hikers and and and people that find 1450 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:37.960 their property like strewmed about in the woods and stuff. 1451 01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:41.479 But they'll never find a hiker that they've heard helicopters 1452 01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:44.439 then soon after go into the woods and they've heard 1453 01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:50.159 rifles going off. They've heard you know, ah, these things 1454 01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:54.840 whatever from what they say, being hunted. So so are 1455 01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:56.600 there do these things have. 1456 01:22:59.479 --> 01:23:01.600 Huh? Do they have trackers on them? 1457 01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:04.119 They're releasing them of trackers so they know exactly where 1458 01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:04.760 they are. 1459 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:05.920 They're following them. 1460 01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:10.319 And stuff and population control, right, population, So let's just 1461 01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:11.960 say wan to within. 1462 01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:13.840 You know, if it's a if it's some kind of 1463 01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:16.479 a mammal, right, and it's susceptible to whatever it is 1464 01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:20.439 that we have neurologically like schizophrenia, uh, you know, or 1465 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:24.680 or an animal with a that's that's just predisposed. Just 1466 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:26.760 just a mean just a mean what are you guys 1467 01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:32.840 can blokes? Just a mean bloke, Yeah, just a mean dude. 1468 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:34.760 Like it's just like he does. It's one of those 1469 01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:37.199 animals that it's just like whatever. It's like, it doesn't 1470 01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:40.640 have the ability to stop its violence. So then they 1471 01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:42.800 send in I believe, like a special forces team to 1472 01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:45.079 go in and be like, yeah, well the tracker gave 1473 01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:48.800 off it was this unit or this number, and this 1474 01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:50.720 is where we track them. You got to go in 1475 01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:51.800 there and neutralize the thing. 1476 01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:53.600 So for me, that makes a lot of sense. 1477 01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:55.359 With the dog soldiers, you know what I mean, because 1478 01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:56.880 you know a lot of people, you know, there's a 1479 01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.640 lot of you know, like the dog mean and stuff. 1480 01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:01.600 You know, they call the dog soldiers, but the dog 1481 01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:06.880 men here, and it's really interesting when people have these encounters. 1482 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:10.439 It's like they it's like they go, I know, this 1483 01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:12.560 thing is looking at me and you can see, like 1484 01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:13.920 literally see it thinking. 1485 01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:16.960 You know, so it's not just. 1486 01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.680 An animal because you know, you you wouldn't look at 1487 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:21.680 a wolf and go, oh, you're thinking about whether or 1488 01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:23.680 not to eat me, or you know, you'd kind of 1489 01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:25.159 be like, yeah, that wolf's gonna eat me or it's 1490 01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:27.319 not or something. But you can literally see these things 1491 01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.680 like they're saying, you know, these encounters going. I saw 1492 01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:32.640 it thinking whether it was going to eat me or not, 1493 01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:35.520 and then just basically go you're not worth it, you know, 1494 01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:38.319 and literally shrug and just walk off and leave them. So, 1495 01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:41.359 you know, see there's that super intelligent there. So that's it, 1496 01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:43.720 you know? Is it that hybrid? Are they making these 1497 01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:45.439 literal dog soldiers? 1498 01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:46.640 You know? 1499 01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:51.039 We well, I was really unaware of how many sightings 1500 01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:54.600 there are here. And I used to work with an 1501 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:58.000 engineering company and some of the guys that I used 1502 01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:00.079 to work with were quite high up and they were 1503 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:07.800 basically helping do underground military bases here in Australia. So 1504 01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:10.159 basically if they were going off, we get invaded. By 1505 01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:13.000 you know, Indonesia or whoever it is. These bases are 1506 01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:15.079 in the middle of the desert, but everything's underneath, you know, 1507 01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:17.520 like you guys you got these bases, there's probably nothing there. 1508 01:25:17.560 --> 01:25:20.800 There could be a shad undergrounding and they're all underground. 1509 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:23.439 And so these guys that I worked with basically did 1510 01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:25.520 the whole kind of what do you do with all 1511 01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:27.680 the sewage and the food waste and all this kind 1512 01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:29.079 of stuff and get rid of it? And you know, 1513 01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:32.319 this whole generation and you know generating sorry, you know, 1514 01:25:32.640 --> 01:25:36.880 like power and water and reusable stuff. So it basically 1515 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:41.560 nothing needs to come up. There's no waste. Yeah, but 1516 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.239 there is a lot of dog Man sightings here and 1517 01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:47.680 it is insane. And to me, I thought it was 1518 01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:49.680 like a big American thing. I just thought, oh, you 1519 01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:52.560 know dog Man over there or skin Walker kind. 1520 01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:56.760 Of Yeah, so many connections to that. Say, so, Lewis 1521 01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:00.000 do you reckon? The Chupicabar is still alive and kicking. 1522 01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:04.640 We like, obviously we've kind of separated the idea that 1523 01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:09.119 the supercarbra in Puerto Rico is not the same as 1524 01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:12.720 the ones through Texas America kind of that they're not 1525 01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:14.159 the same so we're not going to talk about them 1526 01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:17.279 because there's no point in going into that that if they're. 1527 01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:19.880 Not the same creature. Right, I think we've all kind 1528 01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:22.359 of established the fact that they're different, which is cool. 1529 01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:27.680 So is the supercarbra in Puerto Rico or around those islands? 1530 01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:28.840 Is what he reckons? 1531 01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:33.760 Still alike, still kicking, gone back to his frozen himself. 1532 01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:37.840 So with yeah, yeah, he went to facilitation and he 1533 01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:43.840 he wears to drive through Wendy's now. 1534 01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:46.800 Because like I'm a good guy. Dammit, I'm a good guy. 1535 01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:48.399 Even give me a chance. 1536 01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:50.960 The only way I lead an animal now if it's 1537 01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:52.560 in between two buns. 1538 01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:58.239 And not to eat a human. Just him a hug. 1539 01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:02.920 Yeah, real quick, I honestly, I have you have to 1540 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.039 think about, like when you see like the dog Man 1541 01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:06.920 or Big or like the dog Man, or any kind 1542 01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:10.680 of cryptid that exists anywhere, like in New Zealand or Australia, 1543 01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:12.560 where there's where you said, no, in New Zealand, there 1544 01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.760 aren't anything that's really trying to kill you. It's Australia, right, 1545 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:21.199 So if there's what does it eat? Because if everything 1546 01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:25.119 is poisonous, what does that thing eat that doesn't we've got. 1547 01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:30.520 Like kangaroos and wallabies and. 1548 01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:32.119 And we have a lot and some of that we talk. 1549 01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:34.960 We have a lot of missing persons here in Australia, 1550 01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:40.079 a lot of missing person and that thousand it went 1551 01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:41.760 out into the bush or they went out into the 1552 01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:44.479 desert and got lost. I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure 1553 01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:45.800 if you went up with the satellite, they just be 1554 01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:47.039 bodies everywhere. 1555 01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:47.239 You know what I mean. 1556 01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.199 We have a high lot of cereal killers over in 1557 01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:54.600 the Perth area, but there the West Coast, I got 1558 01:27:54.640 --> 01:28:00.920 that side. There is a lot of seeing persons here, 1559 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.359 a lot of people going to the bush. We came 1560 01:28:03.399 --> 01:28:07.279 across a police report of when we were investigating the 1561 01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:10.600 dog men stuff of a hunter that went out. 1562 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:12.680 There was a somebody had seen. 1563 01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:17.720 Up dog a dog man and then basically a hunter 1564 01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:20.520 went out afterwards and it was basically his remains that 1565 01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:22.039 we found and he was torn apart. 1566 01:28:23.279 --> 01:28:24.920 So but then they. 1567 01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:28.399 Were like, oh it must have been a dingo's wanting to. 1568 01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:29.640 Do that, you know what I mean. 1569 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:32.079 Or they're like, oh, he must have died and animals 1570 01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:33.199 kind of pulled them apart. 1571 01:28:34.600 --> 01:28:38.039 Dingoes here are not that prolific. They're very far and. 1572 01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:42.239 Few between, and like we've got like the little Masufia's, 1573 01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:44.520 like the tazzy tigers, which again are Tasmania. 1574 01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:47.199 They're not a lot around. So even in. 1575 01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:51.000 Australia, you don't have a lot of big animals that 1576 01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:53.600 will kind of you know, tear something apart. 1577 01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:56.560 It will be a lot of little little things. And 1578 01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:58.760 then you don't have mountain lions. We don't have. 1579 01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:01.079 You don't have big cats straight apart from the ones 1580 01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:03.479 that were introduced. 1581 01:29:03.119 --> 01:29:04.039 Cats that they call. Yeah. 1582 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:07.399 Yeah, so there's no wolves, there's no beers, there's no 1583 01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:10.840 mountain lions and big cats like that. So yeah, like 1584 01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:15.840 ripping people apart, that's yeah, I mean it's pretty it's 1585 01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:17.319 not believable, you know. 1586 01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:23.239 Yeah. I think that chupacabra after December. I remember it 1587 01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:25.399 was that one December of night. It was at one 1588 01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:28.039 nineteen ninety five where it was, it was at its height, 1589 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:32.920 it was the biggest thing and literally it just stopped. 1590 01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:37.840 So I don't know, I don't know, we'll never know 1591 01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:42.680 what it was, what it is, has it you know, 1592 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:47.079 you know, if it was interdimensional, it obviously lost its 1593 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:51.279 taste for whatever the island had to offer. If it's 1594 01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:57.319 a species did it change its diet? You know, is 1595 01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:00.760 is it still active? And if it is, you know, 1596 01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:05.119 can we attribute it to the you know, the regular 1597 01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:08.800 predation that you see throughout the island, you know, but 1598 01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:12.479 now with the with the onset of you know, like 1599 01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:15.720 I said, came and crocodiles have been introduced into the island, 1600 01:30:15.840 --> 01:30:18.399 Certain monkeys have been introduced into the island. We have 1601 01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:22.560 these gigantic iguanas now that have taken over the island 1602 01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:25.079 and stuff like that. So it's like, all right, so 1603 01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:27.800 the island is becoming, you know, this little haven of 1604 01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:32.279 these you know, random animals that were once considered at 1605 01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:36.560 some point some you know, Narco terrorists pet like a cayman, 1606 01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:38.319 and then all of a sudden the thing got too 1607 01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:40.039 big and it couldn't stay in it swimming pool, so 1608 01:30:40.079 --> 01:30:42.920 he released it along with its friends. And now there's 1609 01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:50.359 a population with the tu I believe that it may 1610 01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:55.199 have been you know, I'll give it because of the 1611 01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:57.000 way that the animals were found. There had to be 1612 01:30:57.039 --> 01:30:59.399 obviously more than one. There had to be more than 1613 01:30:59.439 --> 01:31:01.800 three or four or y. There had to be way 1614 01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:04.680 more than them because the area that was being covered 1615 01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:08.640 was not something that I would think a little four 1616 01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:12.800 foot animal beature would be able to cover all that. 1617 01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:16.039 You know, again, the island's not that big, but it's 1618 01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:18.159 not an hour and a half driving, you know. You 1619 01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:21.239 picture that being four foot tall walking around and stuff. 1620 01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:25.720 You know, it's not right. And then on top of that, 1621 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:30.439 you have to traverse, you know, some serious hills. You know, 1622 01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:33.319 is Puerto Rico, ye island, but we have some serious 1623 01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:37.119 serious mountain side, we have some hills, some pretty pretty 1624 01:31:37.119 --> 01:31:39.720 perilous terrain also up there once you get into like 1625 01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:45.680 the higher elevations and stuff. So, you know, this thing 1626 01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:48.399 there had to be more than just one or two 1627 01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:52.920 or three. You know. Was it a government experiment that 1628 01:31:53.720 --> 01:31:55.760 they got all the data that they needed to get 1629 01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:58.640 and then they rounded them up? You know, was there 1630 01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:02.520 you know, do do these things have trackers? Like you said, like, 1631 01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:04.960 do they have trackers and they release them in a 1632 01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:07.520 certain area They're trying to get collect as much data. 1633 01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.600 How much does the animal eat? How much? What's its diet, 1634 01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:14.199 what are its inclination whatever its proclivities? Does it like this? 1635 01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:16.119 Is it not like this? You know? Did it have 1636 01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:19.159 an allergic reaction to the particular speeple? Whatever it is 1637 01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:25.560 that they're trying to gauge this animal doing. I believe 1638 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:28.239 that they probably harvested as much data that they needed 1639 01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:29.600 and then the experiment was over. 1640 01:32:30.119 --> 01:32:33.079 Yeah, yeah, I would totally go with that. I'll go 1641 01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:33.319 with that. 1642 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:35.359 But it also takes away that creams of if it 1643 01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:38.399 was just one, then maybe a farmer or somebody shot it. 1644 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:40.640 But then because there's such a big thing about it, 1645 01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:42.359 there were skin, they kind of covered it up and 1646 01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:44.359 just you know, could it be aerated or something? You know? 1647 01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:45.600 You know, So that's that. 1648 01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:48.079 But you know, if you're thinking that there's way more 1649 01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:50.439 than just one, then that kind of covered you know, 1650 01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:53.239 that doesn't really work fit that kind of narrative. 1651 01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:57.840 So yeah, so it's really interesting. 1652 01:32:57.960 --> 01:33:02.399 So and so many, so many stories, that massive state 1653 01:33:02.439 --> 01:33:06.039 of stories all over the show really really quickly. There 1654 01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:08.199 had to have been more than one to be able 1655 01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:11.239 to get around all those goats, Right, it's not just 1656 01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:12.600 one goat that was dying. 1657 01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:16.560 It was numeral right was it was also because no 1658 01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:20.600 animal unless Okay, so this is the too. So again 1659 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:23.199 the two theories I have where if it's something that 1660 01:33:23.319 --> 01:33:27.199 let's say is otherworldly, right, does they have the type 1661 01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:32.840 of technology to mesmerize a flock of animals and the 1662 01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:35.960 animal doesn't move, The animal doesn't even make a sound. 1663 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:41.039 And not only that, the creature can feast to its 1664 01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:44.600 hearts content and move on from one animal to the 1665 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.479 next one species. So I'm gonna kill chickens, you know what. 1666 01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:50.000 Let me go try some goats. That's where the carbrot 1667 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:54.000 comes from. Goat sucker, rabbits. People that had rabbits inside 1668 01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:58.359 of pens were also you know, eaten pigeon, peasants, and 1669 01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:01.920 all kinds of stuff. So it had to have some 1670 01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:06.159 type of control where these farmers can sleep through this 1671 01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:12.239 complete slaughter of their livestock and not one animal let 1672 01:34:12.279 --> 01:34:17.079 out a peep. So was it an advanced type of 1673 01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:21.880 animal that has alien that has that type of thing? 1674 01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:26.279 Is it? Is it a species of animals like you said, 1675 01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:29.640 like an experimental thing where you know, it releases I 1676 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:33.359 don't know, some type of gas and it it it, 1677 01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:37.159 you know, renders the animals, you know, or or a 1678 01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:39.840 bite or a sting. Does that have a projectile one 1679 01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:42.039 of his spikes? Does it come out? And you know 1680 01:34:42.159 --> 01:34:45.520 it is that one of the three? Because three puncture 1681 01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:50.479 wounds on something that looks like I remember they even theorized, oh, 1682 01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:53.960 there there are giant vampire bats on the island. Now, 1683 01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:59.800 no they're not, No, they're not there. We have yeah, 1684 01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:02.880 but no vampire bat. Is I've ever seen a vampire 1685 01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:05.680 bat do that to an animal. And if they do feed, 1686 01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:09.960 if they do feed or whatever. Again, the natural biological 1687 01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:14.319 course of things after ourn animal dies, it's stiff riggers 1688 01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:17.039 and you can pick the animal up by the tail 1689 01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:19.600 and it's completely stiff because it's got nothing in it. 1690 01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:23.800 So and so that theory lewis of maybe a spike, 1691 01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:26.520 a projectile or a gas or something like that, or 1692 01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:32.439 semi poisoning almost you know, neurotoxin to a point where 1693 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:36.640 the animals simply can't move, can't do anything. And then 1694 01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:39.880 that neurotoxin or that poison and there could be the 1695 01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:42.479 reason it stops that rigging waters from picking straight in. 1696 01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:45.199 Right, That would that one animal wouldn't that. 1697 01:35:45.279 --> 01:35:47.600 But when you've got a whole herd, you'd have to 1698 01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:54.640 be like you literally need a whole. 1699 01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:56.479 A right imagine a four foot it's like a four 1700 01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:01.319 foot three foot four foot thing, and who have thirty 1701 01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:04.840 forty goats or fifteen goats and stuff? That one thing 1702 01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:08.880 it had to be more than one, that the sightings 1703 01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:13.600 were of one at a time, but say that there 1704 01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:18.399 weren't any within the tree line observing behavior. You know, 1705 01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:22.399 what if it's an advanced type of animal that you know, 1706 01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.640 sends out centuries to scout out certain areas before the 1707 01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:29.560 flock comes in, you know, for the protection. I know 1708 01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:33.319 we do that when we do a reconnaissance of an 1709 01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:37.600 area before attacking area. You have to do reconnaissance, You 1710 01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:40.800 have to do your homework. You know, are these the 1711 01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:42.920 type of ambush predators you know? 1712 01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:44.159 You know? 1713 01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:46.239 And if they aren't, which I believe that they would 1714 01:36:46.279 --> 01:36:48.800 be some kind of ambush predator, right because you have 1715 01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:53.479 to tackle that many animals, maybe simultaneously at the same time. 1716 01:36:54.119 --> 01:36:55.680 How do they coordinate their attacks? 1717 01:36:56.439 --> 01:36:59.560 So many questions, Like you know, like tigers when they roar, 1718 01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:02.560 they had that kind of sound, that unders kind of 1719 01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:06.680 sound that literally makes their prey freeze, but you still 1720 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:10.199 hear that raw same as American Bigfoot's got the same 1721 01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:12.479 thing that people you know, they get to the point 1722 01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:14.920 where they just freeze, they can't do anything. You know, 1723 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:18.359 they go into like this absolute panic or it's known 1724 01:37:18.399 --> 01:37:21.760 to turn them around and that kind of stuff. You know, 1725 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.359 the bigfoot thing they don't really hear. So yeah, so 1726 01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:28.399 that's is that that kind of are they putting out 1727 01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:32.399 that sound that's so quiet that nobody else can hear 1728 01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:35.560 and it just basically makes all of them freeze. 1729 01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:38.359 The human audio teck what you want? 1730 01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:42.880 Yeah, yeah, well dogs, if you're on a dog, you 1731 01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:45.079 have a dog whistle. You can have a dog whistle. 1732 01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:48.159 You don't hear it, but the dog does. So the 1733 01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:50.960 operating with some kind of like you said, like, you know, 1734 01:37:51.359 --> 01:37:55.079 do they have echo location like dolphins and where they're 1735 01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:58.000 able to send out If they do, maybe their echo 1736 01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:02.119 location you know, sends out some type of vibration or 1737 01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:04.520 whatever that renders those animals helpless. You know. 1738 01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.960 Well, just you know that's it. Don't phrase and fig Yeah. 1739 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:13.000 People people have had encounters with bigfoot. I remember watching 1740 01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:15.680 one episode and they were saying that, you know, in 1741 01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:18.000 every episode that I've seen from a couple of these 1742 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:22.279 documentaries that you know, some hunters have literally brought their 1743 01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:25.880 weapons up to bear on and said, you know, I'm 1744 01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:30.199 gonna I'm going to kill one to prove that this 1745 01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:33.520 is it science. You can you know, kiss my rear. 1746 01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:36.239 Here you go, here's an eight foot here's an eight 1747 01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:39.359 foot dude right on the slab for you. Let's find 1748 01:38:39.399 --> 01:38:42.560 out what it is. Right. But they're saying that they 1749 01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:44.920 go in and when they go and they raise their 1750 01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:48.760 weapons up to bear on this animal, the animal just 1751 01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:51.800 by looking at them, you know, they they you know, 1752 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:54.279 there's one where the guy was like, it looks human. 1753 01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:57.920 I couldn't pull the trigger because if it was something 1754 01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:00.720 like a monkey, like a gorilla, maybe somebody, even though 1755 01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:03.439 they're majestic creatures, I would never want to kill one 1756 01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:06.159 like a lion or I don't know why people go 1757 01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:10.000 hunting for those things. I think they're beautiful, but just 1758 01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:16.159 I can imagine a hunter who has no hesitation when 1759 01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:19.239 it comes to downing an animal. All of a sudden, 1760 01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:22.600 now come across this thing and you know, you're resolute, right, yeah, 1761 01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:24.600 I'm gonna do it, and all of a sudden, this 1762 01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:27.479 thing just looks at you and you melt. It completely 1763 01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:30.520 disarms you. So if a bigfoot, which is something that 1764 01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:32.680 you would look like as a mammal or something like that, 1765 01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:36.760 you're looking at a chubepacabra, which is something like possibly 1766 01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:40.479 you know, some kind of you know, advanced weapon system, 1767 01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:46.199 biological weapon systems. Who knows what they can do, who knows. 1768 01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:48.159 It's scary, you know, it's a scary thought these things 1769 01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:50.039 that are being you know, and we know that these 1770 01:39:50.439 --> 01:39:55.319 creatures are being made. We know, you know, like the 1771 01:39:55.319 --> 01:39:57.640 the technology and all that kind of stuff that's coming out. 1772 01:39:57.640 --> 01:40:01.159 We've got no idea, absolutely no idea of what's going 1773 01:40:01.159 --> 01:40:05.760 on around us. But yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, from I 1774 01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:06.880 guess from our perspective. 1775 01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:09.800 You know, like we were talking about this conversation prior 1776 01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:12.560 to the to the recording happening, and we were kind 1777 01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:16.039 of like, man, we really know nothing about the Chubcabra. 1778 01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:18.039 We only know kind of the bits. 1779 01:40:17.880 --> 01:40:21.239 And pieces that we research on mainstream media and that 1780 01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:23.359 sort of stuff that we're able to get. 1781 01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:25.359 So we were so excited to talk to you about 1782 01:40:25.399 --> 01:40:27.640 it because we were like, we've got to learn so much. 1783 01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:30.600 And now that we have had that kind of conversation 1784 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:34.640 and learn about its description and kind of what this 1785 01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:35.640 little creature is. 1786 01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:39.159 I can't even connect it with anything down here. 1787 01:40:39.479 --> 01:40:42.399 There's not one thing that I go, oh, yeah, it 1788 01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:45.640 could be this sort of folklory thing, or it could 1789 01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:48.439 be this sort of nothing that I've ever heard of, 1790 01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:52.000 even in the depths of my wee brain. I'm like 1791 01:40:52.119 --> 01:40:55.439 kind of trying to dig in there nothing floating around that. 1792 01:40:55.479 --> 01:40:57.920 I'm like, oh, it could definitely be a connection, because 1793 01:40:57.960 --> 01:40:59.840 most of the time, you know, we can connect big 1794 01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:02.760 from the northern hemisphere down to the southern hemisphere, we 1795 01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:06.199 can connect lots of other things that, oh, it could 1796 01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:08.039 be there, or it could be that moth Man could 1797 01:41:08.079 --> 01:41:10.760 be the alhol Bat or something along those lines. You know, 1798 01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:14.920 there's other kind of significant connections between these cryptids that 1799 01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:18.199 no chance, I don't don't even know. 1800 01:41:18.960 --> 01:41:22.319 No, And it's I I was. It was interesting as 1801 01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:25.880 I called my father last week and I said, hey, Dad, 1802 01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:28.960 I hope you don't mind, because I said, I won't 1803 01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:30.880 say your name, Dad, I won't put you out there. 1804 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:33.960 I won't, you know, completely put your title or anything 1805 01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:35.399 out there. But I said, but I am going to 1806 01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:38.319 talk about the experiences that we talked about. When he goes, 1807 01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:40.159 what are you even talking about? I said, the whole 1808 01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:42.560 thing went to Chupacabra. Remember. He was like, you're still 1809 01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:44.239 thinking about that? And I was like, well, it's not 1810 01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:47.359 thinking about it, Dada. You know, as we're trying to 1811 01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:49.479 get to the bottom of what it is. He was like, listen, 1812 01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:53.800 he was like, just whatever you do, just be careful 1813 01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:57.600 your conversation. Just whatever. And I can tell in my 1814 01:41:57.720 --> 01:42:01.159 dad's face my dad is not someone who My dad's 1815 01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:03.239 a very serious guy. He's got a wonderful sense of humor. 1816 01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:07.520 But most mostly you'll see him having you know, very 1817 01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:11.760 deep intellectual conversations, and he likes to keep his reputation 1818 01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:16.039 as you know, I'm a serious person. But yeah, but 1819 01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:19.399 then it was like when when I brought it up, 1820 01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:22.680 you can see the expression on his face completely change, 1821 01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:26.319 and it was one of worry, you know, one of 1822 01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:30.199 you know, let's just completely change the subject. I don't 1823 01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:33.640 want to talk about it anymore kind of deal. And 1824 01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:38.159 and talking to my brother because my brother also works 1825 01:42:38.199 --> 01:42:42.720 for another agency, uh in in here in the United 1826 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:47.039 States and he's in deep law enforcement. And I said, 1827 01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:49.239 you know, hey, what's the deal. You know, why is 1828 01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:52.720 Dad so you know, a little not upset, but you know, 1829 01:42:52.760 --> 01:42:54.840 he's a little concerned about the whole thing of the 1830 01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:57.479 tue Pocaba. He was like, listen, he was like, you 1831 01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:00.880 and I both work for Uncle Sam. And you know, 1832 01:43:01.119 --> 01:43:07.119 when you're told to be quiet, you be quiet. You 1833 01:43:07.239 --> 01:43:11.760 be quiet. You leave it alone, because that means to me, 1834 01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:16.920 right as an investigator myself, that means to me that 1835 01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:20.520 at some point, maybe he'll tell me in his deathbed, 1836 01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:24.279 who knows, hopefully I'll get to say see that. But 1837 01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:32.319 somewhere along the line, he was exposed to something he 1838 01:43:32.359 --> 01:43:36.560 should not have been. Yeah, he asked questions, He asked 1839 01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:42.760 the right questions and got some answers that got the 1840 01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:48.239 investigation shut. Sure, and that's and that's where my brother 1841 01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:52.119 was like, you know, it's one of those things that 1842 01:43:52.199 --> 01:43:56.560 we may know later on what happened, probably when he's 1843 01:43:56.600 --> 01:44:00.119 long gone, you know, if he leaves something behind by 1844 01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:01.960 way of you know, something written. 1845 01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:04.319 Just like here's this book. Can you just place you 1846 01:44:04.359 --> 01:44:05.640 right in the heill it's locked away? 1847 01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:09.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh but I but but like 1848 01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:13.399 to your point, Lisa, Yeah, there's really nothing. There's no 1849 01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:18.680 direct correlation between any kind of animal known or unknown 1850 01:44:18.800 --> 01:44:23.000 that you can you know, theorize. What can it be? 1851 01:44:23.239 --> 01:44:29.119 Like you know again, like it's a three foot four 1852 01:44:29.199 --> 01:44:37.720 foot lizard looking thing that sucks blood out of animals. Yeah, 1853 01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:41.600 and it controlled the island for it, like it literally 1854 01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:45.439 was so huge. It both it bought revenue to the island. 1855 01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:48.920 Because now you had a lot of a lot of 1856 01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:51.359 the tourists that wanted to kind of go off the 1857 01:44:51.399 --> 01:44:55.600 beaten path, right, So you had the you had the uh, 1858 01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:57.760 the the people that were going to the cruises and 1859 01:44:58.239 --> 01:45:00.800 would be like, oh, you know, yeah, we about you know, 1860 01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:03.399 and they go into like so the cruises always end 1861 01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:05.920 up in San Juan. That's support city, right, and that's 1862 01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:09.159 where all the casinos are. That's where that's where everybody goes. 1863 01:45:09.159 --> 01:45:11.720 That's where the best food is. That's where you know, 1864 01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:21.640 the Bacardi again and and and you know a lot 1865 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:23.800 of the shop owners and a lot of the restaurant tours, 1866 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:25.680 and a lot of the people that were you know, 1867 01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:28.640 working in the areas. That was their number one that 1868 01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:30.680 that was their number one stories to tell, like all 1869 01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:34.319 these experiences that they were having with the chupacabra and 1870 01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:37.319 you know, we're selling you know, there were kiosks with 1871 01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:40.000 the T shirts and the hats and all this other stuff. 1872 01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:43.600 But then you know, there was this other side to 1873 01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:46.319 this story that was a lot darker. It was a 1874 01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:50.479 lot of you know, again, people lost revenue, people lost 1875 01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:54.439 some people lost their livelihood and had to rebuild all 1876 01:45:54.439 --> 01:45:57.880 over again. And stuff like that, and then there was 1877 01:45:58.359 --> 01:46:04.239 the whole thing of the island now has to forget 1878 01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:08.199 about it like and and and I think that's the 1879 01:46:08.359 --> 01:46:17.039 ultimate insult to a people where you would try don't 1880 01:46:17.039 --> 01:46:19.720 brush it. What did we see? We saw something. You 1881 01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:20.479 can't hide this. 1882 01:46:21.319 --> 01:46:22.359 I was gonna ask that is. 1883 01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:25.319 The cheap of Caba still part of the touristy kind 1884 01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:28.680 of thing there or is it pretty much been shut down? 1885 01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:30.399 Do people still go there looking for. 1886 01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:36.000 The cheap of camera or after the last it's been gone, 1887 01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:39.840 it's the whole goes back. It's just like folklore. Now, 1888 01:46:40.359 --> 01:46:44.560 it was that season in the island where people were, 1889 01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:49.840 you know, hysterical because again, and what gives it the 1890 01:46:49.840 --> 01:46:53.000 that I believe is the believable portion of it, the 1891 01:46:53.039 --> 01:46:56.159 part that you're you're like, all right, so there has 1892 01:46:56.239 --> 01:47:00.439 to be something. Is the kind of people, yeah, that 1893 01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:02.680 that were witnessing. You had a pastor and his wife, 1894 01:47:03.319 --> 01:47:08.520 several law enforcement season, law enforcement personnel, military personnel. You know, 1895 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:12.359 you see people in in in lower local government that 1896 01:47:12.399 --> 01:47:14.279 were you know, the mayor of a city, the mayor 1897 01:47:14.319 --> 01:47:17.920 of a town. You know, there were so many people 1898 01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:21.960 people attached to the governor's cabinet, you know that would 1899 01:47:22.039 --> 01:47:23.319 you know, these are people that go home at the 1900 01:47:23.399 --> 01:47:25.600 end of the night and whoever you are, and they've 1901 01:47:25.600 --> 01:47:29.760 had encounters. So when you had all of these upper 1902 01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:33.039 and you know, higher echelon people within the government and 1903 01:47:34.319 --> 01:47:38.920 within the you know, within society there coming forward and 1904 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.279 saying this is what we saw. And you have to 1905 01:47:41.279 --> 01:47:43.880 tell these people shut up, you didn't see anything, or 1906 01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:49.199 leave it alone. You're going to cause mass hysteria. That 1907 01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:52.439 was it. So if there are things going on now, 1908 01:47:52.760 --> 01:47:55.720 I would know, I don't think so. You would think 1909 01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:58.439 the two hurricanes that have hit the island would have 1910 01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.600 that would have produced some kind of something, you know, 1911 01:48:01.720 --> 01:48:06.119 like body of some you know, you know, something like 1912 01:48:06.159 --> 01:48:09.039 that where let's say, you know, the hurricane hit a 1913 01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:13.319 lot of livestock was dead. So now these animals are 1914 01:48:13.399 --> 01:48:16.119 left to try to go out after domestic animals like 1915 01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:18.000 now I'm going to go after the the house cat, 1916 01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:21.520 the dogs, you know what I mean, the things that 1917 01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:24.399 are in the house, you know, to try to get 1918 01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:28.359 their food. But nothing, there's been no you said there were. 1919 01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:30.880 Like thirty five attacks in the beginning or as was 1920 01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:34.239 that over the whole How many attacks in general do 1921 01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:37.920 you think that there was like a kind of eight. 1922 01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:41.640 Nine month period, Well, that was just thirty five cases. 1923 01:48:41.680 --> 01:48:46.199 I remember in November. That was just November. Yeah, if 1924 01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:48.079 you look at it, there how many you know, days 1925 01:48:48.079 --> 01:48:50.199 in a month. And you were probably thinking like one 1926 01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:52.960 and a half deaths a day or something like that, 1927 01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:55.600 you know what I mean. It wasn't anything that you know, 1928 01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:59.960 like you would think like, all right, well it's it's 1929 01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:02.439 going to stop here. No, it was just thirty five there. 1930 01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:03.279 It was all over. 1931 01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:05.119 That's what makes it. 1932 01:49:05.079 --> 01:49:07.680 So crazy for all of a sudden for it to 1933 01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:12.239 literally stop. Right, You've got copious amounts of animals being 1934 01:49:12.319 --> 01:49:15.199 mutilated and suck dry, and then all of a sudden, 1935 01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:16.560 the next day nothing. 1936 01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:20.319 And that's that's interesting because we never knew the amount. Hey, 1937 01:49:20.319 --> 01:49:23.600 we never knew. It was such a fast thing to us, like. 1938 01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:26.479 From you know, from doing research and from what we've heard, 1939 01:49:26.520 --> 01:49:28.239 it was like, oh, there was an attack here, and 1940 01:49:28.279 --> 01:49:30.560 then a month later there was an attack there or something. 1941 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:31.199 You know. 1942 01:49:31.399 --> 01:49:33.520 So this, you know, for you to come out and go, 1943 01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:35.560 oh my god, this was thirty five just in one month. 1944 01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:38.000 So over that like eight noine month period, there are 1945 01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:40.479 hundreds and hundreds attacks that. I mean, that just puts 1946 01:49:40.479 --> 01:49:43.960 a whole different scale on things, doesn't it That that And. 1947 01:49:43.880 --> 01:49:47.079 You're not talking and you're not talking thirty five goats 1948 01:49:47.119 --> 01:49:47.640 in one month. 1949 01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:49.840 You're talking thirty five. 1950 01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:55.039 Different localities of numerous animals being attacked. 1951 01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:58.960 Yeah, and it was. And it wasn't just golds because 1952 01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:01.800 there it was all the chupacabolo, the goat sucker. But 1953 01:50:01.840 --> 01:50:04.560 it wasn't just goats that it was killing. They were 1954 01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:09.800 you know, at rabbits that were in pens, you know, chickens, roosters, 1955 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:15.359 whatever animal was housed within that particular farm and that home. 1956 01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:19.880 That's what it ate. And it was one town, it 1957 01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:25.520 was several towns, and is we're seeing them here there, 1958 01:50:25.960 --> 01:50:28.399 you know, here there everywhere. You know, it wasn't just 1959 01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:31.399 fun thing. And for that, like you said, for all 1960 01:50:31.439 --> 01:50:35.439 of that chaos and all of that where I remember 1961 01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:40.560 people people Firearms sales had gone up, ammunition sales had 1962 01:50:41.720 --> 01:50:44.920 people you know, the farmers were like not playing around anymore. 1963 01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:48.800 Couples were taking ships. So let's say you had a 1964 01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:52.840 farm and but you also worked in town. Well, then 1965 01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:57.319 you know grandma would be at the house and you know, 1966 01:50:57.439 --> 01:51:00.720 if the net the grand kids came home from school early, 1967 01:51:01.239 --> 01:51:04.479 go hang out at grandma's house with the shotgun in 1968 01:51:04.520 --> 01:51:07.720 the front porch and hang out and then wait until 1969 01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:12.279 your uncle comes in. They're pulling ships because the main 1970 01:51:12.319 --> 01:51:16.279 bread winner, he's out making you know, working in let's 1971 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:19.600 say a factory or something, but he also has the 1972 01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:21.960 farm to take care of. So in order for him 1973 01:51:21.960 --> 01:51:23.920 to have his mind at he's he would, you know, 1974 01:51:24.039 --> 01:51:26.720 his families would come and work together to protect the 1975 01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:29.319 animals because they didn't know what was going on. But 1976 01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:32.079 you could only stay awake but for so long, so 1977 01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:35.199 they would they they would say, well, obviously, what we'll 1978 01:51:35.199 --> 01:51:39.199 do is they started, you know, having these It was 1979 01:51:39.239 --> 01:51:42.840 some type of chicken or whatever that was like specially 1980 01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:45.520 made to like make any kind of noise if anything 1981 01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:48.119 comes anywhere near it. These things would just go nuts 1982 01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:52.000 and stuff and nothing. You would go to bed, you 1983 01:51:52.039 --> 01:51:56.640 would pull security detail over your livestock. You'd go to bed. 1984 01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:59.399 You would think that if something were gonna come in here, 1985 01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:01.640 we're gonna hear these animals are going to go crazy 1986 01:52:02.239 --> 01:52:04.000 and you wake up in the morning and all of 1987 01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:08.640 them are dead. That every every single that's such a thing. 1988 01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:10.800 This is like never really been discussed. 1989 01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:14.479 Has that like the like the pressure and just the 1990 01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:17.520 fear that these farmers and these families must have been 1991 01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:20.520 under because that they would have been going, is this 1992 01:52:20.720 --> 01:52:21.720 thing literally. 1993 01:52:21.479 --> 01:52:24.560 Going to start coming for us? You know, that's what 1994 01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:27.239 you'd think. You've got this credator out there. It's like, 1995 01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:28.600 if I've. 1996 01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:30.399 Got no more animals left, what's he going to come 1997 01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:32.800 after next? I'm probably going to be next on the 1998 01:52:33.119 --> 01:52:37.000 food chain. So the and the heightened fear of what 1999 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:39.680 these people were going through and on such a mass scale, 2000 01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:41.680 I mean, that's just yeah. 2001 01:52:41.479 --> 01:52:44.960 I had and exactly what you say, lewis in regards 2002 01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:49.199 to like the biggest insult of forcing these people to 2003 01:52:49.279 --> 01:52:53.800 then forget brush it under the table. Nothing happened, Let's 2004 01:52:53.840 --> 01:52:57.199 move on. It was never a thing that affects you 2005 01:52:57.239 --> 01:52:59.520 as a as a person, but then as a generation, 2006 01:52:59.640 --> 01:53:02.359 as a side in the community, it changes. 2007 01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:05.439 It changes your your township. 2008 01:53:07.840 --> 01:53:13.279 Ye say that, and your trust and your trust say that. 2009 01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:17.800 It's it's it's also like you lose the trust and 2010 01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:20.840 the people you elect because if you if I elect 2011 01:53:20.920 --> 01:53:23.600 you to be my my spokesperson, right, whatever it is, 2012 01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:26.000 whether you be the President of the United States or 2013 01:53:26.039 --> 01:53:29.560 whether you be a local congressman or you know, someone 2014 01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:33.159 that just represents you know, your interest to higher government. 2015 01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:36.319 You would think that this is something that, no, we're 2016 01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:39.600 not going to forget about this. What what is feeding 2017 01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:44.760 off of our livestock? What's doing this? And you know, 2018 01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:46.960 can you guarantee? So that that was the thing that 2019 01:53:46.960 --> 01:53:50.479 they were like, all right, so they released some bs 2020 01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:53.119 statement of don't worry about it. It was kind of 2021 01:53:53.119 --> 01:53:55.520 like para super paraphrasing, but it was like basically the 2022 01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:59.520 essence of the whole thing was, you know, it's it's 2023 01:53:59.680 --> 01:54:02.680 the the era of the two pacabra is gone. There's 2024 01:54:02.800 --> 01:54:05.840 no more. We don't need to worry about it anymore. Uh, 2025 01:54:05.960 --> 01:54:09.079 go about your business, go about your lives, you. 2026 01:54:09.039 --> 01:54:11.279 Know, to cover up the stock you loss. 2027 01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:16.600 Everything's like money, turn it into charity, turn it into 2028 01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:19.239 a thing where you know, you start to subsidize these 2029 01:54:19.239 --> 01:54:22.079 little businesses and you start to kind of like have 2030 01:54:22.159 --> 01:54:24.680 them push you know, the T shirt thing whatever, and 2031 01:54:24.920 --> 01:54:29.800 you turn it into a joke and unfortunately, you know, 2032 01:54:29.920 --> 01:54:33.079 it's it's it's not funny. It's it isn't a joke. 2033 01:54:33.279 --> 01:54:37.079 It isn't something that you you know, especially then you start, 2034 01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:40.159 you know, fast forwarding decades later, a decade and a 2035 01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:43.880 half later, where you're like having our government literally admit that, 2036 01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:46.800 and you know this is a CIA, a person within 2037 01:54:46.840 --> 01:54:51.439 the CIA testifying to Congress that there were you know, 2038 01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:56.760 UFOs following, you know, American military, you know, praps. 2039 01:54:57.479 --> 01:54:59.319 But Big Folk's going to be nicked, isn't it? You know, 2040 01:54:59.399 --> 01:55:02.159 big It's just too many. There's too many out there 2041 01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:04.920 for them to say, no, it's not this. Yeah, you know, 2042 01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:05.800 and I don't know. 2043 01:55:05.840 --> 01:55:09.279 Do you watch the Expedition Bigfoot series? 2044 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:10.880 Yeah? 2045 01:55:11.039 --> 01:55:12.880 Well you saw the last series with the found of 2046 01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:14.439 that's nice, and then it's just finished. 2047 01:55:14.520 --> 01:55:18.920 I'm just like, ah, and then you're gonna notice notice 2048 01:55:19.239 --> 01:55:22.840 about these shows. Keep in mind whenever these shows start 2049 01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:26.000 to get really good, like you and I would judge 2050 01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:29.239 and say, this is getting really good, the anecdotal evidence 2051 01:55:29.319 --> 01:55:31.800 is coming into the point where it's like it's blowing 2052 01:55:31.840 --> 01:55:35.119 your socks off, right, watch how these shows don't get 2053 01:55:35.159 --> 01:55:35.800 another season? 2054 01:55:36.319 --> 01:55:36.560 Yeah? 2055 01:55:37.439 --> 01:55:39.399 And pulling the plug on the show. Oh, we couldn't. 2056 01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:42.159 They couldn't afford it, they couldn't do whatever, And all 2057 01:55:42.159 --> 01:55:49.760 of a sudden, the show just disappears yeah close to Yeah, 2058 01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:52.760 when you're getting too close. You're you're going to get 2059 01:55:52.840 --> 01:55:56.399 shut down. You're gonna get shut down. These animals, every 2060 01:55:56.399 --> 01:55:59.279 single one of them, whether it be a troop of Cabra, 2061 01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:07.159 whether it be Bigfoot, champ Lockness, any of these cryptids. 2062 01:56:08.520 --> 01:56:15.119 I firmly believe that there is a unit within every 2063 01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:19.439 single government around the world that has a database and 2064 01:56:19.600 --> 01:56:23.439 is tracking these things. I don't for one that believe, 2065 01:56:24.520 --> 01:56:27.560 oh absolutely, I don't for one minute believe that the 2066 01:56:27.600 --> 01:56:31.119 government does not. All governments around the world know what's going. 2067 01:56:31.199 --> 01:56:38.960 Whether you're in Russia, Putin knows exactly what in China, 2068 01:56:39.079 --> 01:56:42.800 they're gonna know who the orn Pendeck is. Their government 2069 01:56:42.920 --> 01:56:46.640 knows what those things are. You know, your government obviously 2070 01:56:46.680 --> 01:56:49.319 knows what the yahwis are. They know exactly where they are, 2071 01:56:49.359 --> 01:56:51.640 they know exactly what they eat, they know their diet, 2072 01:56:51.640 --> 01:56:55.119 they know their height. They probably even them. You know, 2073 01:56:55.880 --> 01:57:01.439 there's a story I remember watching this Roger Gimlin, who's uh, 2074 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:05.239 not not the Gimlin from the Patters in Gimlin film, 2075 01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:10.479 but another Gimlin. He's on YouTube. He's pretty popular, and 2076 01:57:10.640 --> 01:57:12.239 I remember hearing the story because I was in the 2077 01:57:12.279 --> 01:57:14.159 Air Force, and I remember hearing the story about a 2078 01:57:14.199 --> 01:57:20.119 wildfire in the middle of the States, and they they 2079 01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:22.920 where it was around somewhere around the holiday, some type 2080 01:57:22.960 --> 01:57:29.199 of holiday, where they had a Air Force personnel standing 2081 01:57:29.199 --> 01:57:32.640 guard for this one region where they were going to 2082 01:57:32.680 --> 01:57:36.159 start pulling in either you know, animals that have been 2083 01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:40.079 injured or people that had been injured because of this wildfire. 2084 01:57:40.159 --> 01:57:43.479 And it was just like their their mobile station. And 2085 01:57:44.439 --> 01:57:49.199 this one testimony going back to this airman who he 2086 01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:52.680 was given this assignment, and they they you know, they 2087 01:57:53.119 --> 01:57:55.520 give you that, they give you the spield. They'll literally 2088 01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:58.000 have an attorney come up to you from the Judge 2089 01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:00.600 Advocate General's office and they tell you if you open 2090 01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:03.159 up your mouth and you say something, you'll be held accountable. 2091 01:58:03.359 --> 01:58:05.000 You're gonna, you know, you're gonna go to jail. We're 2092 01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:07.119 gonna throw the book at you, will bury you into 2093 01:58:07.119 --> 01:58:09.199 the prison. You know, they'll never your mom and your 2094 01:58:09.279 --> 01:58:13.279 daddy will never see you again. And so this guy 2095 01:58:13.319 --> 01:58:16.960 comes forward and he says that right as he was, 2096 01:58:17.479 --> 01:58:19.960 he remembers standing guard, and I'll send you this this 2097 01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:23.520 video also he was standing guard, and he says he 2098 01:58:23.720 --> 01:58:27.960 notices out of the back of this big, huge suv 2099 01:58:28.880 --> 01:58:32.279 comes this gigantic. It was like this truck. There's this massive, 2100 01:58:32.279 --> 01:58:34.920 massive truck and out of the back comes out this 2101 01:58:35.079 --> 01:58:39.159 gigantic animal. And he said it was a bigfoot the 2102 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:41.920 way he described was a bigfoot. But what was striking 2103 01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:45.520 was the mannerisms that this bigfoot had and it was 2104 01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:50.640 like it a recognized that the humans that were around 2105 01:58:50.680 --> 01:58:53.720 it were there to help it, so it wasn't fighting, 2106 01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:58.520 and that the actual animal looked at the airman that 2107 01:58:58.640 --> 01:59:04.000 was standing guard and almost gave it gave them an acknowledge, 2108 01:59:04.520 --> 01:59:07.119 like acknowledge the fact that he was there and give 2109 01:59:07.199 --> 01:59:10.159 him a head nod of some sort. And it just 2110 01:59:10.239 --> 01:59:13.920 and this big thing just walks into this one area, 2111 01:59:14.279 --> 01:59:17.920 and you know, this guy goes and gives this testimony 2112 01:59:18.039 --> 01:59:20.119 and it was because of warfare. He says that the animal, 2113 01:59:20.239 --> 01:59:23.720 the animal was actually injured, so there was visible burn marks, 2114 01:59:23.760 --> 01:59:28.520 singed hair, singed, you know, areas that were really raw 2115 01:59:28.600 --> 01:59:31.640 and down to the down to the subcutaneous fat. So 2116 01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:36.199 the animal was obviously injured. And he said that it 2117 01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:40.119 received medical care in it. It was released intelligence. 2118 01:59:40.840 --> 01:59:43.920 That's that spends a whole new thing on it, doesn't 2119 01:59:43.960 --> 01:59:45.880 it that, you know, because that's it, you know, these 2120 01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:49.199 things are you know, the so called at their animals, 2121 01:59:49.239 --> 01:59:52.680 then they're not going to be that intelligent, you know, 2122 01:59:52.840 --> 01:59:53.960 really you that's the thing. 2123 01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:55.159 You know, eventually they will kill. 2124 01:59:55.439 --> 01:59:59.199 But these things are running rings around people, so they know, 2125 01:59:59.359 --> 02:00:01.720 they're very all aware. And then you know, if you've 2126 02:00:01.760 --> 02:00:04.720 got you know, the military and they're helping them to 2127 02:00:04.800 --> 02:00:06.840 stay away from people as such. 2128 02:00:06.680 --> 02:00:10.079 Then it's yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. 2129 02:00:09.960 --> 02:00:14.920 So far out man, you mind my poor brain away. 2130 02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:17.800 I'm not going to sleep for days now. 2131 02:00:18.800 --> 02:00:20.760 Did you see what I said? Did you see them 2132 02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:24.279 when I sent you my daughter? My daughter? So now 2133 02:00:24.279 --> 02:00:26.720 that we were like all about I know it was 2134 02:00:26.720 --> 02:00:29.199 more about chopocabra. We kind of went into the bigfoot 2135 02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:34.680 thing a little bit. But and I apologize but that yeah, yeah, 2136 02:00:34.840 --> 02:00:39.279 it's it's it's literally now, it's like something that from 2137 02:00:39.319 --> 02:00:41.239 back when I was a kid listening to my father 2138 02:00:41.359 --> 02:00:43.520 and watching my father go through the whole thing with 2139 02:00:43.560 --> 02:00:45.880 the chupacabra and Puerto Rico and all the stories that 2140 02:00:45.920 --> 02:00:49.720 came out of it. To then me teaching a firearms 2141 02:00:49.720 --> 02:00:52.760 class and remember having this this this man who was 2142 02:00:53.039 --> 02:00:57.920 a truck driver tell me this his experience with bigfoot. 2143 02:00:58.199 --> 02:01:01.479 Here we are two years later, my dating this very 2144 02:01:01.640 --> 02:01:03.920 nice young man. You know, it's very polite, better be 2145 02:01:04.279 --> 02:01:17.640 you know, and yeah, yeah, apparently so so so, and 2146 02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:23.079 I mean they know I don't. I'm I'm very smiling 2147 02:01:23.159 --> 02:01:25.640 with everyone whatever, but when it comes to my children, 2148 02:01:25.680 --> 02:01:29.520 I'm extremely overprotective obviously, like any parent would be. And 2149 02:01:30.560 --> 02:01:33.319 you know, and I know that the kid wasn't trying 2150 02:01:33.319 --> 02:01:35.520 to make an impression on me because he had already 2151 02:01:35.520 --> 02:01:38.520 been very polite and whatever. And we were talking. I 2152 02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:40.640 remember I was watching he had come to pick up 2153 02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:42.880 my daughter to go out to go get a bite 2154 02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:48.520 to eat, and I'm watching again, watching the documentary on Bigfoot, 2155 02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:51.279 and he goes, I want to, you know, kind of 2156 02:01:52.279 --> 02:01:55.359 talk to you a little bit about my experience, I said, 2157 02:01:55.600 --> 02:01:58.039 with what he goes with Bigfoot. And I looked at 2158 02:01:58.119 --> 02:02:00.319 him and I'm like, come on, kid, I'm not you're 2159 02:02:00.319 --> 02:02:05.159 trying to you're trying to sun. Yeah, you're barking up 2160 02:02:05.199 --> 02:02:07.720 the wrong tree. You're already you're already in my good graces, 2161 02:02:07.720 --> 02:02:11.000 but bsing me, you're gonna lose points. So don't do 2162 02:02:11.479 --> 02:02:13.960 especially you're pulling at my heart right now. You're talking. 2163 02:02:15.239 --> 02:02:17.520 I have two big, fake big pots in my in 2164 02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:22.680 my backyard. I'll send you pictures and stuff. So so 2165 02:02:23.520 --> 02:02:27.920 he goes, no, he so he's uh, he was at 2166 02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:30.760 church and the church and the church that he belongs to. 2167 02:02:31.199 --> 02:02:37.800 This is this church that's a butt a massive tree 2168 02:02:37.840 --> 02:02:43.199 line and woods up in the Massachusetts area and it's 2169 02:02:43.239 --> 02:02:46.920 just all open, expansive whatever. And I forgot that. The 2170 02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:49.239 name of the mountain that's Sleepy Giant. It's called Sleepy 2171 02:02:49.239 --> 02:02:51.359 Giant Mountain. And the only reason they call it that 2172 02:02:51.399 --> 02:02:53.039 because if you look at the mountain, it looks like 2173 02:02:53.439 --> 02:02:56.920 the peripherals of a face laying down, and it's a 2174 02:02:56.960 --> 02:03:00.600 giant face laying that whatever, So sleepy Giant. So his 2175 02:03:00.720 --> 02:03:04.359 church is around that area, and what they would do 2176 02:03:04.439 --> 02:03:07.880 typical boys. Once church service is over, they wanted to 2177 02:03:07.880 --> 02:03:12.199 go hunting, So they went to church whatever through their 2178 02:03:12.439 --> 02:03:15.039 their firearms in the back of the pickup truck. They 2179 02:03:15.079 --> 02:03:17.960 go in. Soon as church is over and whatever, they 2180 02:03:18.039 --> 02:03:20.760 run outside, take their ties off, whatever, boom head into 2181 02:03:20.800 --> 02:03:24.600 the tree line. And he says he was there with 2182 02:03:24.680 --> 02:03:27.800 his brother for about an hour and a half, two hours. 2183 02:03:27.800 --> 02:03:31.000 They weren't gonna stay long because it's you know, one 2184 02:03:31.039 --> 02:03:33.479 of those things where it's like you know, I still 2185 02:03:33.520 --> 02:03:36.000 have my good slacks on. I better not get them dirty, 2186 02:03:36.079 --> 02:03:41.279 or Bigfoot is not the one I'm gonna have to 2187 02:03:41.319 --> 02:03:43.640 worry about. My mom is gonna wear out my mind. 2188 02:03:43.640 --> 02:03:50.399 And so he goes into the woodline and he says, 2189 02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:54.279 the first thing he noticed was this very, this very 2190 02:03:54.359 --> 02:03:57.880 distinct smell. He said, it smelt like a gut bucket, 2191 02:03:58.399 --> 02:04:03.680 Like like it was just this very putrid, like milk 2192 02:04:03.880 --> 02:04:07.640 rotting inside of a hot dumpster when you were in school, 2193 02:04:07.720 --> 02:04:11.199 that smell, that poetive smell. He was like, it was 2194 02:04:11.279 --> 02:04:15.039 just really nauseating, the smell. And he goes and he 2195 02:04:15.079 --> 02:04:19.079 starts to hear like what appears to be footsteps coming 2196 02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:21.640 towards his direction. Now he's on a he's in a blind. 2197 02:04:21.880 --> 02:04:25.239 You know what a blind is. So he's in a 2198 02:04:25.239 --> 02:04:31.960 blind and he's all camoed out and out of he 2199 02:04:32.039 --> 02:04:34.640 went and he made a move, and he's like, I 2200 02:04:34.720 --> 02:04:39.279 went to call his brother on on his radio to 2201 02:04:39.319 --> 02:04:41.520 see if he's the one coming through the woodline, because 2202 02:04:41.560 --> 02:04:44.600 if it's a deer, it's mine. I'm gonna take it. 2203 02:04:44.920 --> 02:04:46.439 So I want to let you know. So he has 2204 02:04:46.439 --> 02:04:49.159 to communicate with his brother as a hunter. This is 2205 02:04:49.199 --> 02:04:51.920 where I'm at. There's something coming out of the tree line, 2206 02:04:52.079 --> 02:04:55.640 and you're gonna hear a gunshot. Before he even had 2207 02:04:55.640 --> 02:04:57.880 a chance to open up his mouth and say anything, 2208 02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:02.960 he says, right from the tree line, this thing just 2209 02:05:03.079 --> 02:05:06.920 goes over and peers off the back of a tree 2210 02:05:07.720 --> 02:05:12.199 and it's looking at him. He says it wasn't a 2211 02:05:12.239 --> 02:05:17.600 big It wasn't a giant bigfoot. He says, it must 2212 02:05:17.600 --> 02:05:21.159 have been some kind of like a in between, because 2213 02:05:21.159 --> 02:05:24.479 it was regular. It was a little taller you would 2214 02:05:24.520 --> 02:05:28.439 say it would buy like five eleven six to that type. 2215 02:05:28.960 --> 02:05:32.359 So it wasn't without you know, the possibility of you know, 2216 02:05:32.399 --> 02:05:36.079 it being a human. But the problem was it was 2217 02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:39.880 like the facial expressions that you can actually tell it's 2218 02:05:39.920 --> 02:05:43.720 not a mask. You're looking at an actual creature. Said, 2219 02:05:43.720 --> 02:05:47.000 it looked at it. He brought up his phone real 2220 02:05:47.359 --> 02:05:51.119 quick and snapped the picture, and he sent me the picture. 2221 02:05:51.960 --> 02:05:52.199 Oh. 2222 02:05:53.560 --> 02:05:56.920 They went out, and when he called his brother because 2223 02:05:56.960 --> 02:05:59.800 the thing looked at him. Once he saw him and 2224 02:05:59.840 --> 02:06:01.680 he saw that he had a weapon on him, the 2225 02:06:01.720 --> 02:06:06.399 thing turned around and you know, bolted, just took off 2226 02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:09.279 and started running into the tree line. He immediately gets 2227 02:06:09.319 --> 02:06:12.279 out rendezvous with his brother. They start looking towards the 2228 02:06:12.319 --> 02:06:14.239 area where he was running. So there was this one 2229 02:06:14.279 --> 02:06:17.279 little creek bed where the creature must have run through, 2230 02:06:17.680 --> 02:06:20.520 and they caught this awesome footprint and he took a 2231 02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:21.159 picture of that. 2232 02:06:21.720 --> 02:06:25.800 To me, us seen us those two pictures. 2233 02:06:26.399 --> 02:06:30.000 But the picture of the forest where he's kind of 2234 02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:33.520 seen sitting down is pretty tough, Like all things considered, 2235 02:06:33.520 --> 02:06:37.840 it's pretty tough to spot them. Definitely shadows through there 2236 02:06:37.880 --> 02:06:41.640 that you can kind of make out. But the footprint, man, whah, 2237 02:06:42.159 --> 02:06:43.560 that's a cracker. 2238 02:06:43.119 --> 02:06:47.039 And a half. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. 2239 02:06:47.119 --> 02:06:48.640 So that was that was one of those things where 2240 02:06:48.640 --> 02:06:51.199 I'm like, all right, so there's obviously a connection here 2241 02:06:51.199 --> 02:06:54.159 where I'm like starting to see these things. Not only 2242 02:06:55.159 --> 02:06:59.319 so now that I know that there's one possibly an 2243 02:06:59.439 --> 02:07:03.479 hour and a half from me, Yeah, I'm going to. 2244 02:07:03.520 --> 02:07:04.119 Go after it. 2245 02:07:04.279 --> 02:07:04.479 Man. 2246 02:07:06.319 --> 02:07:07.119 And I think that's it. 2247 02:07:07.159 --> 02:07:10.159 You know, Lisa and I've said, you know, we with 2248 02:07:10.239 --> 02:07:13.319 us going more and more into this, we we start 2249 02:07:13.399 --> 02:07:15.680 talking to bitby. I was talking to a guy the 2250 02:07:15.720 --> 02:07:18.000 other day, like we've seen the same guy at the 2251 02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:20.039 coffee shop with his two kids, and sometimes the kids 2252 02:07:20.079 --> 02:07:24.079 will play together and stuff and literally last like about 2253 02:07:24.079 --> 02:07:24.800 three weeks ago. 2254 02:07:24.920 --> 02:07:27.079 Here she introduced himself and goes a hey, I'm Ryan 2255 02:07:27.159 --> 02:07:29.520 or hey bye bye. Turns out he's a fireman ra rah. 2256 02:07:29.880 --> 02:07:31.800 And then all of a sudden he starts going because 2257 02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:33.159 I had teacher, and he goes, oh, what do you do? 2258 02:07:33.239 --> 02:07:36.000 I was like, explain rolettes and he goes, oh, he goes, 2259 02:07:36.279 --> 02:07:38.640 I absolutely believe in like a Thina scene, you know, 2260 02:07:38.680 --> 02:07:40.960 which is the thylascene, which is the dogs here, And 2261 02:07:41.000 --> 02:07:41.520 he goes, oh. 2262 02:07:41.399 --> 02:07:46.079 I'm going thinascene hunting in Tasmania. Just like how random 2263 02:07:46.359 --> 02:07:47.000 is that, you know? 2264 02:07:47.039 --> 02:07:48.800 And he goes, oh, I totally believe in the yow 2265 02:07:48.920 --> 02:07:51.479 and all this kind of stuff. You're like, yeah, okay, 2266 02:07:52.720 --> 02:07:55.279 you just kind of you start attracting those people, so. 2267 02:07:56.119 --> 02:08:00.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they become more comfortable like knowing 2268 02:08:00.640 --> 02:08:03.680 that there's a possibility that you know, because that's got 2269 02:08:03.680 --> 02:08:05.560 to be that's got to be one heck of an event, 2270 02:08:05.720 --> 02:08:09.359 right you. You imagine you and Lisa who are so 2271 02:08:09.960 --> 02:08:13.920 absolutely this is this is what you love, this is 2272 02:08:13.960 --> 02:08:18.680 your passion, and one of these things that you're investigating 2273 02:08:18.800 --> 02:08:23.159 comes out of the pages of your studies and into reality, 2274 02:08:23.640 --> 02:08:25.600 and you have this eight foot creature looking at you. 2275 02:08:25.640 --> 02:08:27.319 What would you do? I asked my wife that all 2276 02:08:27.319 --> 02:08:33.720 the time. I'm like, let's say we're driving, because we 2277 02:08:33.760 --> 02:08:35.479 go through rural areas all the time. You know, I 2278 02:08:35.560 --> 02:08:39.399 think New England is very very woods and it's very 2279 02:08:39.479 --> 02:08:44.119 you know, just a lot of woodline. And I get 2280 02:08:44.119 --> 02:08:46.079 bear all the time in my backyard going through my 2281 02:08:46.119 --> 02:08:49.000 garbage and stuff like that. So and I live next 2282 02:08:49.039 --> 02:08:51.479 to a river. So I said, you know, I asked 2283 02:08:51.520 --> 02:08:54.039 her one time, I said listen, I said we're outside, 2284 02:08:54.079 --> 02:08:57.279 and she gets frightened really quickly, and I said, hey, 2285 02:08:57.560 --> 02:09:01.119 what would happen if one day she goes stop, don't 2286 02:09:01.159 --> 02:09:05.560 start that, don't ask me those questions. I'm like, what 2287 02:09:06.199 --> 02:09:08.479 if we were going down a rural area and all 2288 02:09:08.520 --> 02:09:11.359 of a sudden, instead of a deer popping on in 2289 02:09:11.359 --> 02:09:14.960 front of us, this big, bipedal, gigantic animal comes out. 2290 02:09:15.079 --> 02:09:18.479 But and she literally starts shaking, and she's like, I 2291 02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:21.560 don't even want to think about it. So funny thing was, 2292 02:09:21.640 --> 02:09:24.039 we lived on a farm for years, fifteen years we 2293 02:09:24.119 --> 02:09:26.840 lived on this farm. Going into this farm, it was 2294 02:09:26.880 --> 02:09:29.239 about a mile and a half road before you actually 2295 02:09:29.279 --> 02:09:33.159 get into our house, and it was a dirt road, 2296 02:09:33.359 --> 02:09:36.439 and she says she had she'd never do it again. 2297 02:09:36.520 --> 02:09:41.159 She was watching something at her parents' house and it 2298 02:09:41.560 --> 02:09:44.159 actually had to do with bigfoot. They had mentioned it. Whatever, 2299 02:09:44.600 --> 02:09:47.119 it was dark at night, it was really late at night. 2300 02:09:47.239 --> 02:09:50.399 She's coming home really late at night. But it was 2301 02:09:50.840 --> 02:09:54.159 right before dusk, right when you it's getting dark, but 2302 02:09:54.199 --> 02:09:57.640 you can still see, you know, certain things outlines and 2303 02:09:57.640 --> 02:10:01.640 stuff going into our driveway. Right off to the left 2304 02:10:01.680 --> 02:10:05.720 hand side of there's this big, huge, like probably fifteen 2305 02:10:05.840 --> 02:10:11.920 sixteen acre field. She didn't remember that there had been 2306 02:10:11.960 --> 02:10:16.479 people working in the field and one one of them 2307 02:10:16.520 --> 02:10:20.560 must have put this gigantic tree out in the middle 2308 02:10:20.560 --> 02:10:23.119 of it as a gag. For whatever reason. It was 2309 02:10:23.159 --> 02:10:27.079 just a gag, the fact that her peripheral vision saw 2310 02:10:27.199 --> 02:10:31.199 something that was completely out of place, that was not 2311 02:10:31.239 --> 02:10:34.479 supposed to be there in the middle of dusk and 2312 02:10:34.680 --> 02:10:38.279 at night, when like, and I'm a mile and a 2313 02:10:38.319 --> 02:10:42.000 half because it was something like a bigfoot. By the 2314 02:10:42.079 --> 02:10:46.880 time I got to her, she'd be done, right, she said. 2315 02:10:47.000 --> 02:10:49.199 He rolls her window up and she's like, I'm not 2316 02:10:49.239 --> 02:10:51.039 gonna look. I'm not gonna look. I'm not gonna look. 2317 02:10:51.039 --> 02:10:55.680 I'm gonna look, and she hauls tail all the way up. 2318 02:10:56.039 --> 02:10:59.119 I see the plumes of dust through the dirt road, 2319 02:10:59.479 --> 02:11:02.600 because she is coming at least seventy miles an hour 2320 02:11:02.680 --> 02:11:06.359 down that dirt road. And I come outside and I'm like, 2321 02:11:06.720 --> 02:11:09.800 I'm hearing her, you know, coming our bedroom. You can 2322 02:11:09.840 --> 02:11:13.119 hear the gravel and the crunching of the ground as 2323 02:11:13.159 --> 02:11:16.079 the wheels are getting closer. But I'm hearing that she's 2324 02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:21.159 coming inbound. Hot, go outside her. I need to go 2325 02:11:21.199 --> 02:11:24.000 outside with my shotgun. What's going on whatever? She's like, 2326 02:11:24.039 --> 02:11:25.359 I don't know. I just don't want to talk about it. 2327 02:11:25.399 --> 02:11:27.039 I'll tell you when I get inside. So I wait 2328 02:11:27.079 --> 02:11:29.640 for her outside. She comes inside. There's something in the field. 2329 02:11:29.920 --> 02:11:32.279 I'm like, what do you mean. She goes, there's something 2330 02:11:32.319 --> 02:11:35.279 in the field. There's something massive in the field. I'm like, dude, 2331 02:11:35.359 --> 02:11:37.640 you should call me. Did you take out your phone? 2332 02:11:37.680 --> 02:11:39.439 Did you take a picture? She goes like, I'm not 2333 02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:41.800 going to take a picture. What's a What if it's 2334 02:11:41.800 --> 02:11:44.640 a sasquatch? What if it's a big foot? I was like, exactly, 2335 02:11:44.680 --> 02:11:48.399 we could be millionaires. I get back in the truck. 2336 02:11:48.479 --> 02:11:50.000 I go back out there. I get you know, I 2337 02:11:50.079 --> 02:11:52.920 obviously arm myself. I go out there. I have this 2338 02:11:53.039 --> 02:11:55.439 huge flashlight. It's this tree right in the middle of 2339 02:11:55.479 --> 02:11:59.039 the woods. I take a picture, I go back, I 2340 02:11:59.079 --> 02:12:01.560 go back inside the house and I'm like, I'm like, 2341 02:12:01.720 --> 02:12:03.720 I don't I can't believe what I just saw. And 2342 02:12:03.760 --> 02:12:06.520 she was like, oh my god, Oh my god, what happened. 2343 02:12:06.560 --> 02:12:11.359 So she's screaming. I was like, someone put a tree 2344 02:12:12.159 --> 02:12:14.680 right in the middle of the field kinds of ships 2345 02:12:15.520 --> 02:12:23.279 and she's like, an asshole. Yes, you couldn't have just 2346 02:12:23.399 --> 02:12:25.520 led with that part. It's a tree. 2347 02:12:26.560 --> 02:12:33.119 So yeah, great, great, great question. I think we should 2348 02:12:33.239 --> 02:12:35.760 answer this. All three of us should answer that question. 2349 02:12:35.880 --> 02:12:38.159 What would we do if we saw a bigfoot? And 2350 02:12:38.279 --> 02:12:42.600 let's wrap this up as the end of our interviewer, right, So, Juliet, 2351 02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:48.479 what would you do if a yowie slash bigfoot appeared 2352 02:12:49.279 --> 02:12:52.199 out of the yowie? 2353 02:12:52.199 --> 02:12:54.119 Because we're in Australia, I probably want to eat my 2354 02:12:54.199 --> 02:12:55.000 face big foot. 2355 02:12:55.000 --> 02:12:58.920 I'd probably have a bit of chance with the big foot. 2356 02:12:59.119 --> 02:13:01.359 Yeah, I don't know. 2357 02:13:01.479 --> 02:13:03.720 I think, you know, once you kind of get over 2358 02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:04.119 that fear. 2359 02:13:04.159 --> 02:13:05.560 It's like, you know, when we do a lot of 2360 02:13:05.600 --> 02:13:08.600 paranormal stuff and we see some pretty nary stuff, sometimes 2361 02:13:08.840 --> 02:13:10.760 you kind of get that job of Oh my god. 2362 02:13:10.840 --> 02:13:14.439 But then I think my fascination would possibly take over. 2363 02:13:14.680 --> 02:13:17.439 I know for some people it depends on the situation, 2364 02:13:17.600 --> 02:13:21.159 isn't it. But you know, Lisa, I've always talked about 2365 02:13:21.439 --> 02:13:24.279 you know, if you know, people are walking and they go, oh, 2366 02:13:24.399 --> 02:13:26.439 somebody threw a rock at me, something through a rock 2367 02:13:26.439 --> 02:13:28.000 at me, and both me and Lisa were just like, 2368 02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:31.520 we should just throw it back and see what happens that. 2369 02:13:32.239 --> 02:13:36.000 I mean, tell you, okay, throw a rock at mete 2370 02:13:36.199 --> 02:13:37.720 And honestly, like that question. 2371 02:13:37.920 --> 02:13:41.319 My first thought was I'd probably be like, Yo, what up? 2372 02:13:42.880 --> 02:13:45.159 What are you doing? Why are you doing? Nice to 2373 02:13:45.199 --> 02:13:45.439 see you? 2374 02:13:46.439 --> 02:13:48.760 Would you be surprised if it was really familiar with 2375 02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:50.479 our vernacular and he was like what's up? 2376 02:13:50.680 --> 02:13:59.760 And fuck me right, I'd be like, no, shit you 2377 02:14:00.000 --> 02:14:03.159 oh god, they speak English? Just yeah, they're are key 2378 02:14:03.199 --> 02:14:06.079 we Nah? I think I would. 2379 02:14:06.800 --> 02:14:07.039 Yeah. 2380 02:14:07.279 --> 02:14:09.359 I think like Juliet, you know, when you've been around 2381 02:14:09.359 --> 02:14:11.239 that sort of stuff for a long time, like we 2382 02:14:11.319 --> 02:14:14.199 understand the bush, we understand supernatural stuff, like we've been 2383 02:14:14.239 --> 02:14:16.840 connected to that sort of bits and pieces around. 2384 02:14:16.920 --> 02:14:18.880 I see UFOs all the time, all the time. 2385 02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:22.119 I've had dog Man kind of in my peripherals, and 2386 02:14:22.159 --> 02:14:24.520 we both come from that kind of martial arts sort 2387 02:14:24.520 --> 02:14:28.880 of space where you you have that connection, you understand it. 2388 02:14:28.960 --> 02:14:31.720 And I'm pretty I think Juliet's the same. We're pretty 2389 02:14:31.760 --> 02:14:34.840 sure of ourselves. We're probably overly confident where we go 2390 02:14:34.880 --> 02:14:38.159 and put ourselves into unnecessary situations. But I think if 2391 02:14:38.199 --> 02:14:40.720 I did see a crazy creature like that, I'd just 2392 02:14:40.720 --> 02:14:42.359 be like, knew it. 2393 02:14:44.880 --> 02:14:47.560 Yeah, yeah, and then possibly. 2394 02:14:47.199 --> 02:14:49.199 If it growls us, we'll probably run away, And then 2395 02:14:49.239 --> 02:14:50.359 I'd purse myself and run away. 2396 02:14:50.399 --> 02:14:54.319 Yes, what about you, Lewis. 2397 02:14:55.880 --> 02:14:58.760 You know, I'd probably invited over for some Bacardi and 2398 02:14:59.159 --> 02:15:04.279 some tackles. I think that, yeah, I you know the 2399 02:15:04.319 --> 02:15:08.960 thing with Bigfoot. I think that everywhere I go, I'm 2400 02:15:09.479 --> 02:15:12.239 typically because of my job and because of what I do, 2401 02:15:12.279 --> 02:15:17.880 I'm always armed. So I don't think that I would 2402 02:15:17.960 --> 02:15:20.640 ever want to. And the reason I bring up the 2403 02:15:20.640 --> 02:15:23.119 fact that I'm armed is because I wouldn't do anything 2404 02:15:23.159 --> 02:15:26.359 against it. I would definitely have my phone out. I 2405 02:15:26.359 --> 02:15:28.000 would definitely try to see if I can get my 2406 02:15:28.039 --> 02:15:30.880 phone out. But I guess they're you know, the blob 2407 02:15:30.920 --> 02:15:34.239 squatch because they have this ability to take you know, 2408 02:15:34.319 --> 02:15:38.119 technology all this eight K four K technology and turn 2409 02:15:38.159 --> 02:15:41.520 it into you know, something out of the seventies or 2410 02:15:41.600 --> 02:15:43.960 something like that, like you filmed it through a potato. 2411 02:15:44.279 --> 02:15:49.560 You know that I would try to approach one. I 2412 02:15:49.680 --> 02:15:55.720 honestly would. You can tell if something is aggressive and 2413 02:15:55.920 --> 02:15:58.760 if in me, listening to the story that Bob Gimlin 2414 02:15:58.880 --> 02:16:02.039 said about how Bigfoot looked at him and kind of 2415 02:16:02.680 --> 02:16:08.520 gave him an acknowledging nod was enough for me to 2416 02:16:08.680 --> 02:16:12.199 be like, all right, so if that's possible, that means 2417 02:16:12.479 --> 02:16:16.920 theoretically that these things that there may be a hierarchy, 2418 02:16:17.199 --> 02:16:23.239 a representatives of this type of species. Maybe they're not 2419 02:16:23.359 --> 02:16:26.000 all you know, I've heard stories of them, like people 2420 02:16:26.199 --> 02:16:31.600 going like this and the sasquatch actually lifting their back, yeah, back. 2421 02:16:32.360 --> 02:16:37.159 So I would try to communicate with it. If it's 2422 02:16:37.239 --> 02:16:41.840 not it's the opposite of what it's not nice and 2423 02:16:41.879 --> 02:16:43.840 it looks like it's ready to you know, rip my 2424 02:16:43.879 --> 02:16:46.479 head off, then you know, I think I'd be the 2425 02:16:46.719 --> 02:16:49.399 I'd probably set world records and you know, running on 2426 02:16:49.479 --> 02:16:50.040 two legs. 2427 02:16:50.559 --> 02:16:55.200 Yeah, it's definitely, you know, because we had been around 2428 02:16:55.280 --> 02:16:57.639 animals and we have you know, been around we can 2429 02:16:57.719 --> 02:16:59.479 kind of pick up people's actually. 2430 02:16:59.159 --> 02:17:00.239 So you you. 2431 02:17:00.280 --> 02:17:03.760 Instantly would probably know if it's a threatening you know, 2432 02:17:04.000 --> 02:17:07.200 is this a threatening behavior? It's a curious behavior, you know, 2433 02:17:07.239 --> 02:17:09.959 the whole looking behind the trees. You know, to me, 2434 02:17:10.040 --> 02:17:12.280 it's it's a very curious kind of creature going oh 2435 02:17:12.319 --> 02:17:13.520 what the hell are they doing. 2436 02:17:13.280 --> 02:17:16.479 You know over there or something like that. So, yeah, 2437 02:17:16.520 --> 02:17:19.920 that would that would definitely be really cool. But yeah, bro, 2438 02:17:20.799 --> 02:17:22.840 but we'd would be millionaires. 2439 02:17:23.040 --> 02:17:26.399 We'd be millions, and encrypted women's society would be phenomenal 2440 02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:28.319 and like, yeah. 2441 02:17:27.879 --> 02:17:33.239 Everything if I come into let's say I find out that, 2442 02:17:33.479 --> 02:17:35.719 you know, I am the long Lost ear to some 2443 02:17:35.799 --> 02:17:41.399 type of you know, kingdom king Yeah, or to sponsor 2444 02:17:41.879 --> 02:17:46.879 both of your uh escapades. But you're gonna get into 2445 02:17:46.879 --> 02:17:49.000 the bush. You're gonna have to go try to find something. 2446 02:17:49.120 --> 02:17:51.840 Oh like, we we come to Puerto Rico, we will 2447 02:17:51.840 --> 02:17:54.120 be calling on you. You can be our guide. You 2448 02:17:54.159 --> 02:17:55.239 can have the. 2449 02:17:55.280 --> 02:17:58.639 Bush, and we'll promise your wife we want that you 2450 02:17:58.680 --> 02:17:59.159 get eaten. 2451 02:18:00.639 --> 02:18:02.760 The first stop would have to be the Bacardi Distilleries 2452 02:18:02.760 --> 02:18:05.840 O first, you know, you first have to stop there, get. 2453 02:18:05.639 --> 02:18:08.479 Back PARTI taco chup of camera. 2454 02:18:10.600 --> 02:18:14.879 Well, get baptized officially as official Puerto Ricans. You know, 2455 02:18:14.959 --> 02:18:17.559 you got to get the local fair in you and 2456 02:18:17.600 --> 02:18:20.760 then we go you know, out into the onto the woodland. 2457 02:18:20.840 --> 02:18:22.600 But most absolutely it was awesome. 2458 02:18:23.719 --> 02:18:25.319 Thank you so much. 2459 02:18:25.520 --> 02:18:27.959 Like honestly, this has just been such a joy for 2460 02:18:28.120 --> 02:18:31.399 us and we and we have we have learned so much, 2461 02:18:31.440 --> 02:18:33.200 so it kind of makes me want to kind of 2462 02:18:33.200 --> 02:18:35.399 research it in a different way, you know what I mean. 2463 02:18:35.520 --> 02:18:38.959 So it's it's one of those things that are just Yeah, 2464 02:18:39.079 --> 02:18:39.120 the 2465 02:18:43.159 --> 02:18:47.280 Women's Society, Walking in the Shadows, The Cult Edition