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Speaker 1: The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there, Oh

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dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect

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the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds and grow

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not what we want. If you are looking for an

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echo chamber viewer and listener discretion, he's advised.

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Speaker 2: Can you talk about extreme?

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Speaker 1: What is happening and what is up? Hold out your

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glass because we're about to fill it up torches high.

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Speaker 2: You know, look at it from a different perspective, different perspective,

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different perfect.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, what is happening and what is up? Hold

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out that glass, baby, because you know what time it is.

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We about to feel it. Welcome with the Prometheus Lens Podcast,

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the place where the conversations are always in lightning. I

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am your host, Doc Brown, and here we like to

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use the allegory of the Prometheus Lens to take a

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second look at everything. And if you listened on Apple

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I got a really good show for you lined up

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today we're going to get into some true crime. We're

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going to get into some dark, occult ritual type stuff.

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Little s all, Ray, put your seat belts on. And

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if you do have little ones around and you're listening

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to this on your Bluetooth speaker, you might want to

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wait un till you've got some long time or put

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your headphones on for this one. But I'd like to

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welcome the show. This man. I met him at bro Grove.

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We got to hang out. We shared the stage together

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on a roundtable discussion. We actually hung outside and have

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us a smoke or two and back when I was smoking.

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Forgive me lower, but I really enjoyed this conversation with

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this guy. Man. But I like to welcome the show

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first time, first of many Austin Picard man, dude, thank

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you so much for taking time out of your business

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schedule to hang out with me.

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Speaker 2: Of course, brother, I'm sorry that I had to reschedule

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on you at least once. But man, I've been trying

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to collect myself honestly, just as far as you know,

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when you cover some of this, it feels like I

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almost I almost kind of. For one, it obviously takes

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an emotional toll but I think the the these sort

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of just connections are so sophisticated and deep in the

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in the layers and levels of of kind of the

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in my mind, how many of these networks function that

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I investigate and so under the umbrella of my show,

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which is called The Underclass Podcast. Obviously I started that

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in I believe it was April of twenty twenty three,

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so it's still very much I've feel in its infancy

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right and and to me, that's another aspect of all

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of this. I'm trying to kind of balance, you know,

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the delicate balance you play right with with kind of

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when you expose yourself to a lot of the details

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and involved in some of the darker aspects of society

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at large and how it kind of function functions in

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this current power paradigm, you begin to yeah it. People

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have described it as the black pill, but I very

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much pivot away and steer away from that because I

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think there's so much hope to be had, and you know,

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manufacture a sort of defense mechanism and put it in

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of current media environment that we exist in, and what

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seems to be this sort of you know, fundamentally, it's

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these mind manipulators engaging and socially engineered misconceptions and false

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this major influence to undermine and compromise the major media

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boxes of the permanent establishment and the intelligence apparatus that

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voice my sort of frustrations, but not to linger and

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the consequential nature of the the uh, you know, these

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these dystopian agendas obviously affect us in a negative way.

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understanding this additional layer to life itself and right and

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only mean that we're trying to confirm our own bias

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or whatever. I think many of us, you know, don't

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detail in terms of a lot of these things. But

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concept and and that in itself is beautiful, you know.

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like this because again, it provides us with an avenue

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these subjects in terms of just even breaching the conversation.

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baggage in place, and I think it's all by design, right,

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manufactured in order to keep people away to to you know,

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push them away from engaging in these lines of investigative

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thought and and and it's an effort.

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these things and flesh these things out and discover the truths.

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of various faiths. People that were atheists, they were, you know,

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formally in the occult and some of the shows I

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is a gospel preaching church. I'm here to have intelligent

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conversations with people and to get their perspective on things,

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you know that I don't necessarily have. And I always

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tell people it's kind of like gathering puzzle pieces. I

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like to talk to people, get different perspectives, and I

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might not agree with ninety percent of what somebody has

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agree with and it's very valuable and it was a

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missing piece that I had. So we have to go

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be able to listen to each other, exchange ideas, and

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the very least respond with you know. That's interesting. Yeah,

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to surround ourselves with people that think like we do,

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agree with everything that we think about, and you're never

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going to grow. You're never going to learn anything that way.

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have these conversations, more often than not, I always walk

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away from the conversation with another puzzle piece to throw

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in my evidence pile, and it just does nothing but

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solidify my faith. Man.

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remain right just cordial within that context. And and I

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regard to the inverted moral landscape, it's been very well

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orchestrated around us and and in a way to where

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it's hard to even engage with reality itself or or

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engineering and psychological control and and it's it's I think

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overall agenda of mind control and and uh and creating

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this uh just extraordinary level of compliance for the general

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firmly like pursuing the ability to define the core values

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pursuing prosperity in the terms of your own family and

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and even that it's like, be careful of what you

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what we should prioritize, and what we can control. And

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mantra of mine recently. Just God, grant me the serenity

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to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to

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change the things I can, and the wisdom to know

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the difference. And like that in itself, I'm just trying

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the outcome in every way. I'm obsessed with, you know,

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I want to do well and and you know, I

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have conversations and present information that I think is crucial

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in the right way. And but yet we're always going

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that can become a detriment, it can become self defeating

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in a way. And I think that I have approved

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you know, to making certain mistakes, and that's the only

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way you can, you know, redirect yourself and and just

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achieve some sort of self improvement at a level that

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is worthwhile. And those are the people I want around me, right,

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people that are seeking that path. Not you don't. There's

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no perfection in this. It's just like you know what

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I mean. It's like, as long as we're all trying

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to bring the best out in each other through these

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collaborative efforts, then I think we're doing something that is

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at least on a path that is very worthwhile. And

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to me, you know, it provides me with not only

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it provides me with a purpose, right, but it's a

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purpose I'm very passionate about. And that's what I'm very

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grateful for, more than anything, is that I'm having these

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conversations with people who kind of share that passion, you know,

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and that in itself, I think brings the best out

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in each other and people when they sort of pursue

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that and engage in that way. And so that's why

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a beautiful thing, you know, and being surrounded by like

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minded individuals who were so you know, eager and willing

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to learn and engage at a level to where we

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can each you know, share things with each other that

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we might not necessarily have pursued, you know, on our own,

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because we all think differently. We come together and what

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we bring to the table is just it's very I

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think it's a unique a uniquely different perspective and and

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that's just kind of the human condition at play in

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a way. But but it's it's beautiful to witness. And

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that was my first that was really my first kind

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of just live event experience that I had been to

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as far as since I had started the podcast, I

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hadn't been to anything like that. So yeah, I meant

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the world to me and and and going getting to

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meet like uh Top and and and Raven and and

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see Doughnut and like you know what I mean, and

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and Thomas and and meets you as well obviously. But

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it was just like every aspect of it was was

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kismet if olt. It felt like it was meant to happen.

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And and there was a moment where you know, I

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was just looking around and appreciating everything, you know what

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I mean, Like it felt like it was something very special.

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these anonymous personalities in a way, right, it's it's uh

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my sleeve in a way, I didn't take the precautionary

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measure of of of keeping a sort of like pseudonym

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or anything. So I am who I am, unfortunately, but

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I think that's a good thing and a bad thing.

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But but at the same time, you know, it was

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very important to experience that. Right as far as bro

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grove itself because again, it's like getting to see Sam uh,

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you know, kind of like I got to uh to

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do an in studio appearance with him on a podcast

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during the weekend. It was just a lot of fun.

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It felt like it was something you know that you know,

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it was very important to me, something that I had.

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It was kind of a dream in a way, right

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and uh, and those things are just beautiful whenever they

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come together. But but yeah, it was just again it

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broke that digital veil, and it it at the very

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least confirmed to me, you know that that these these people,

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certain individuals who you know, I just wanted to meet them,

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shake their hands, get a sense of who they really

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were as people were acting in good faith and they

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had beautiful intentions, right and and man, that inspired the

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hell out of me. Right, So it definitely did. And

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so I continue to talk about how just what a

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good experience that was, and I hope that we can

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continue to do that going forward obviously and and build

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more of of those, you know, those kind of live events,

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because I just think it's going forward, it's going to

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be really important for us to just have some sense

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of community, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's something that's lacking in this community. Honestly, like me,

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I'm in the you know, the Christian fringe community, and

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they have lots of conferences and I love them. I

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enjoyed them. You know. I try to go at least

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two or three a year, and they are It's the

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similar as you were talking about with bro Grove. You know,

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you get with you know, like minded people and they're

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kind of conspiratorial and look at the supernatural side of things.

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So yeah, you get to exchange those puzzle pieces with

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those guys. But one of my big complaints with it is, uh,

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it's usually the same old song and dance. It's usually

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the same speakers every single year. And they're great speakers.

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I love them, but it's like, you know, I may

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love h reb By Steak, but if I eat reb

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By Steak every day for a month, you know, I

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mean that doesn't take away that that steak is amazing.

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But if man give me, I'll take a greasy cheeseburger

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every once in a while. And so it's like I

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wish that at least that community would involve you know,

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younger speakers and have some variety and bring in the

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podcasters and you know, give them a platform to speak

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and network with each other, and uh, that was just

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really awesome and refreshing to go to bro Grove and

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uh just to have all the younger generation and the

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podcasters and so that, to me, that was just really amazing.

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And that's something that is really really lacking in some

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of the pools that I swim in. So maybe I'm

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just gonna have to take it upon myself. I talked

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about it all the time about doing you know, some

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conferences and this is how I do it. I do this,

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this and this. So maybe I just got to get

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off my butt and actually do it and just make

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it happen. If nobody's doing it.

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Speaker 2: Right, hey, I think that's great. Honestly, I've had I

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had a patron hit me up and kind of like

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pitch that very idea. Right. It's just I think it's

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something that it's very much there's there, there's an appetite

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for it at this moment. And I think it's also

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because it's the reason I started my show. I felt

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so isolated in my ideas and and you know, I

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wanted to have an avenue where I could have these

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conversations and and and this has provided that and I

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think there's an extra element that is very much. Yeah,

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I think it's I think it's it's sort of there's

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a huge appetite to meet with these live events and

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try and actually, like I think people just appreciate that

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that same energy that we explained earlier, right, because again

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it's it provides you with like hope for the future

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inspiration going forward. We're not alone, like these ideas are

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are clearly you know, being shared and spread and people

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and just have have a desperation to engage at at

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a at an honest level. And that again it just

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reinforced is the notion that that you know, there there

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is this sort of just very much willingness to objectively

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pursue the truth. And through that it's like you shed

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your political ideological prison that has been kind of like

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injected into your conditioning that from day one. I mean

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it's like if it wasn't wasn't your parents' influence, you know,

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directly it became your your sort of public school slavery

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influence right of it. And and throughout that process we

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all are conditioned with the pop culture that we engage

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with and various kind of false idols that we accumulate

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over time, and and then we wonder why we end

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up in certain positions when we mold our lives and personalities.

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After it, it's like all of us really are engaged

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in some sort of identity crisis in a certain way.

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And and we have to acknowledge that too.

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Speaker 1: Of Amberson, you know, what did Amberson say? You know said,

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the consistence, consistent foolishness is the hob goblin of the

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little mind.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's so perfect. Yeah, that is beautiful, and and yeah,

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that's perfect because it just explains, honestly, it is this. This,

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It's the reason why Hollywood is so you know, as

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far as utilized as a as a tool to exploit

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and leverage the average person into these compliant, you know,

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ideological prisons, and then they sort of just it's like

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a chameleon in a way, you right, you become this

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the version of of what you It's very strange how

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how celebrities, celebrity personalities are very much worshiped in in

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this sort of modern framework. And again, I think it's

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crucial in the terms of this you know, new age

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esoteric ideological system of control that has been created to

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sort of fill the god hole that so many people

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are are desperately attempting to feel unbeknownst to them. I

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think it's a subconscious effort and and obviously you know

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it's it's a part of the human condition. And whether

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you like it or not, you're worshiping something. And I

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think that that people need to understand that it's you

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might be subconsciously engaging in that worship, but something is

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controlling you. And and h and at the very least,

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you know, you're being lured into this submissive psychological state

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of mind to where you you kind of like fall

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into these these very traps that have been laid to

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corrupt you into embracing that very inverted moral landscape that

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is there to I think, facilitate these new wage ethical

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moral values that are clearly just almost the uh. It's

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it's sort of the again, it's inverted. It's it's the

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ethical opposite of what you should pursue in every way,

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and yet it's been couched and this sort of positive

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framework and this new mindset to where people are embracing

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it as the altered exactly. So I don't know, personally,

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I'm under the impression that it's like I ask, you know,

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Whenever people come on the show, I usually asked them,

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like when William Ramsay came on the show, and I

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asked him like, what is what is your sort of

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thoughts on the intersection of culture creation, social engineering, COVID

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intelligence operations, and this sort of esoteric occult ideological or

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ideologies that are essentially being initiated through the subconscious mind

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of the general public who are essentially I think there

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are various methods of deception being utilized through symbolism and

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occult iconography, right, And I think that that's a major

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aspect of it as well, And that came up in multiple, multiple,

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you know, just episodes that I've covered, especially the Son

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of Sam Case and the twenty two Disciples, the Children

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and the twenty two Disciples of Hell, and they were essentially,

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you know, committing ritualistic sacrifices outside of various nightclubs. One

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was called the Elephis Club, so it had like a

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cult symbolism tied into the name of the club itself,

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and that to me, it played into the layered symbolic

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nature of the ritualistic sacrifice, which would be to the

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elfice Elephis Levy like this essentially, yeah, it just refers

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to this sort of kabbalistic you know, ancient esoteric and

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in a way, Elephis Levy was was basically just one

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of the one of the you know he was he

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basically helped push forward in occult ideology, right and in

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many ways, and I think helped with the New Age

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infrastructure that's been laid in more ways than one. And

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many of his teachings have been you know, sued and

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upheld in the occult community. And so it it fits

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into like the ro Secrucion mission that was allegedly the

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the foundation of America. Is that we were essentially had

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we were tricked into this false belief that it was

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really about this city upon a hill and and and

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in reality it was it was a ro Secrucion mission

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to uh create this the you know what would become

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sort of the ground zero of the New Age and

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the occult path which they would pursue in sort of

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the Age of Aquarius and bringing.

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Speaker 1: Talked about that didn't he was the exact destiny of America.

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And that's Exanda Graham laid out in Washington, d C.

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And the phallus and womb all that stuff. Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, exactly Manly P.

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Speaker 1: Hall.

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Speaker 2: He won the Secret Destiny is is the sacred Destiny? Right?

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What was it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a secret the secret secret.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of America. Yeah, it's fascinating, honestly that that is

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David Livingstone is. I think it's a pseudonym. But either way,

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he has a great, you know website. It's Ordo out

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of Chaos. Basically, it's Ordo a b k O, you know,

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and it's it's it's essentially just the you already know,

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the Freemasonic nature of order out of Chaos and and

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this sort of Yeah. But either way, that's the name

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of his website, and he has some wonderful primary source

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material that he provides in terms of of this the

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Rosicrucial Mission and the Secret Destiny of America and how

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how it essentially was this false framework and and that

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obviously American history and history itself is just what did

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Napoleon say? Allegedly he said history is a lie agreed

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upon or a fable agreed upon, something to that effect.

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I believe was was was what he claimed. And and yeah,

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that that's uh, definitely the case as far as recorded

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history is concerned. I think it's it's been a sort

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of a fairy tale intended to you know, place us

479
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:07,519
on this compliant path to where we're willing to embrace

480
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:13,720
the structured, you know, systematic, systematically entrenched like sexual black mail,

481
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,319
you know, uh, a cycle that exists as far as

482
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,319
in d C. If you if you're considering just the

483
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:24,400
what I view to be like the ultimate currency in

484
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,680
d C for far too long generations has been basically

485
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,000
sexual blackmail and human compromise and in various forms of it.

486
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,359
But but it does seem that the more sinister you

487
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,480
are or sadistic in nature, you rise to power, you know,

488
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:42,680
and and uh and and basically you know, it's it's

489
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,559
it's very interesting because I think that you can trace

490
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,640
this back to even when I covered Watergate, I didn't

491
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,960
expect it to lead me down a path to where

492
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,079
I would discover the fact that it was a Columbia

493
00:29:54,119 --> 00:30:00,599
Plaza prostitution ring that was attached to the uh yeah, yeah,

494
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,880
the Watergate complex was essentially the desk Idam Maxie Wells

495
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,960
was the desk that was being broken into at the

496
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,920
Watergate complex.

497
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: If you're someone who still thinks the wild hast secrets,

498
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who feels stories woven into the wind. This brand's going

499
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to hit home. The Soul Squatch makes Squatch approved gear.

500
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I don't mean that lightly. This stuff is functional, yes,

501
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,160
but it's laced with legend. It's for people who believe

502
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in what's out there and what it brings out of them.

503
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They're hats, beanies, stickers. They're designed by folks who live

504
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and breede the myth. No gimmicks, just real outdoor gear

505
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with soul. Go to the Sooulsquatch dot com and find

506
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something made for fellow believers, wanderers, or anyone who still

507
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listens when the woods go quiet.

508
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: And she was the contact for the prostitution network and

509
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:05,720
the ring that had been set up two blocks from

510
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,400
the Watergate facility where these prostitutions were being offered up

511
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,359
to foreign diplomats and various politicians who would come into

512
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,920
DC because the DNC, Yeah, the DNC was actually housed

513
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,200
in the Watergate complex at the time, and they had

514
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,240
a private phone system that wasn't on the overall communications

515
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:30,319
network telecommunications network, and so this was the system on

516
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:34,119
item Maxiwell's desk where they would be sent to because

517
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,279
they believed they were privately communicating and and be offered

518
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,720
they would be offered pictures of the prostitutes and kind

519
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,440
of make their decision. Then here's the phone number you call.

520
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:46,079
Then you can have a conversation with the madam and

521
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160
kind of make your order. And it's very interesting. But

522
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:52,839
it turns out that one of the White House aides

523
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,680
named John Deane from Nixon at the time. It turns

524
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,920
out he was he was married. Well, he just conveniently

525
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,000
the timing is very convenient. During the Watergate scandal, he

526
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:08,359
gets married to to Moe Bner Dean, which became his wife,

527
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,720
and she was the best friend of the woman who

528
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:19,039
Heidie Reichen, who was running the Columbia Plaza prostitution ring

529
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:22,039
out of the Columbia Plaza apartments, right, she was known

530
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,279
as the White House call girl, and that's uh she was.

531
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,559
Basically she was exposed later on as being a setup

532
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,480
by She claimed she was being protected by CIA, but

533
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,960
she was. It was because the CIA were running this

534
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:41,960
operation through the MOB and their mob connections with this

535
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,400
individual Mob figure known as Joan Neslein, who was basically

536
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,640
running this prostitution operation on behalf of the CIA for

537
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:56,799
plausible deniability purposes. And it's just crazy because if you

538
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:59,559
connect Heidie Reichen, you find out who she comes from,

539
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,519
where she comes from. She's an immigrant from Germany and

540
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:07,119
her father was a Nazi ss U boat captain and

541
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:10,000
and so you got Operation paper Clip that sort of

542
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:13,279
lingering in the background in terms of this prostitution network

543
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:17,599
and human compromise operation. And it's very interesting when you

544
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,319
look into all those connections because there's claims of like

545
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,319
you know, pedophile network being involved as well, and that

546
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,920
there was far more you know, legitimate blackmail that they

547
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,519
were attempting to procure to see who was on that

548
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Basically they were trying to see who was on the

549
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,880
call list implicated in procuring the prostitutes. And uh and

550
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,319
mainly because.

551
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,759
Speaker 1: John he disappeared too, like the Epstein list.

552
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,319
Speaker 2: Absolutely and and exactly and you know who it's so

553
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,440
crazy as far as you know, the claims that were

554
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,799
made surrounding all of that and and uh and yeah,

555
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,960
just it to me, it makes a lot of sense

556
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,720
that that that was the case obviously as far as

557
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:04,640
just once more you're witnessing human compromise and sexual blackmail

558
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,359
play out. But it was a layered operation and you

559
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,840
had CIA, you know, operatives who were retiring for the

560
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,480
third time and working for CIA cutouts during the time

561
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:19,599
that they could access this the Watergate facility. It's very crazy,

562
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,440
but it goes to show that clandestine hid in hand

563
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:27,800
involved in every aspect of how society functions. And you know,

564
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:34,360
I discovered whenever I investigated the Finder's Cult. I honestly

565
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,440
I never expected to discover what I did in terms

566
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:44,960
of like a state sponsored intelligence operation that was conducting

567
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:49,800
child sex trafficking and essentially you know, I mean legitimately,

568
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,519
it seemed as if it was far more sinister than that,

569
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:57,760
because they were in infiltrating childcare organizations and essentially laying

570
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,000
out instructions of how they could uh you know, move

571
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:05,000
the children through various jurisdictions to keep the authorities off

572
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:08,239
the trail of UH and and you know, some of

573
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,639
their properties where they would house the children and cages

574
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:15,039
and things of that nature, which is it's terrible to

575
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:19,360
see who who the you know, the main founder of

576
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,320
the Finder's Cult was. His name was Mary and David

577
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,159
Petty and his wife.

578
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: Just for those that's unfamiliar. I don't want somebody jumping

579
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,559
in midstream and not know because I'm one of them.

580
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:33,559
If I'm being honest. Uh, the Finders Club, What is

581
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:34,320
that exactly?

582
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: Man, It's it's It's fascinating because basically the official narrative

583
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,079
is that it's it's essentially this this new age group,

584
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,480
right that that basically kind of like in the they

585
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:52,440
they were trying to they were trying to present themselves

586
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,800
as a hippie commune, a hippie commune that was essentially

587
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,639
trying to it was. It was ridiculous how much they

588
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:03,519
would deflect away from certain allegations and claim like various

589
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:08,079
aspects of animal sacrifice and ritual you know, animal blood

590
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:12,960
sacrifice during occult rituals was then like explained away as

591
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:17,519
animal husbandry. They were teaching the children about animal husbandry,

592
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:20,400
but in reality they were all dressed in white sheets

593
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,519
and robes and committing a legitimate satanic blood ritual. But

594
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:27,760
it was tied in at the same time, around the

595
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,599
same time as the McMartin preschool case was becoming public

596
00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:36,400
and so basically that is around the time they come

597
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,280
in to public awarenesses. Around nineteen eighty seven, there's an

598
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,880
arrest made in Tallahassee, Florida. And it's very strange to

599
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,760
me because I think of of course, the fact that

600
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,360
this is peak Satanic panic at this time, right, and again,

601
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,679
I consider this to be a sort of manufactured media

602
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,639
trope that was intended to see a plausible enough cover

603
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,679
up narrative into public consciousness while all of these legitimate

604
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,719
examples of you know, with real evidence of satanic ritual

605
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,519
abuse continued. You know. And so it was around the

606
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,480
exact same time that the Finder's cult become exposed that

607
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:20,719
mc martin preschool sexual abuse scandal, and that investigation was

608
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,119
taking place from eighty four to eighty seven, and then

609
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:27,880
in eighty seven the arrests happened with the Tallahassee, Florida

610
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,920
arrests for these alleged members of the Finders. And the

611
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:38,880
way that it essentially takes place is you have these individuals.

612
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:42,559
On February of eighty seven, there's an anonymous phone tip

613
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:46,159
sent to the authorities and basically called into the Tallahassee police,

614
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:50,360
and it reported six children, dirty, hungry, and acting like

615
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,320
animals in the custody of these two well dressed men

616
00:37:53,440 --> 00:38:01,039
in a Tallahassee, Florida park. Yeah, and instantly they're the

617
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:05,119
As the story unravels, like you consistently see this this

618
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,960
line of satanic ritual abuse, international child sex trafficking ring,

619
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,880
and you know, it was all initially confirmed and then

620
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,360
later denied. I think that all happened based on the

621
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,519
facilitation of the cover up because it was traced back

622
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,760
to these very high level individuals. You know, if you

623
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,440
I won't get off on a tangent. But the Confessions

624
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,960
of a DC Madam is another example of this because

625
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,920
it perfectly aligns with the Franklin scandal and this case

626
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:41,119
the Finder's Cult. And so the Franklin scandal is the

627
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,719
Franklin Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska, which was you know,

628
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,559
there was a major embezzlement scandal that was that was

629
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,480
exposed and Lawrence E. King was a major part of this,

630
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:54,599
and he sang the national anthem at the Republican National

631
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:58,880
Convention in like nineteen eighty four. Right, And this guy

632
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:04,440
is uh sadistic pedophile rapist that legitimately was running a

633
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:09,559
child sex trafficking operation through and and laundering the money

634
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:13,599
through the Omaha, Nebraska Federal Credit Union and and and

635
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,800
basically was had an operation set up with the Boys

636
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,320
Town Orphanage. The the unfortunately the boys Facility where where

637
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,360
a lot of these children were being and not just

638
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,639
that facility. There were childcare organizations involved in and essentially

639
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,639
much more than just Boys Town. But but they were

640
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:39,239
procuring children from this obvious institution with with state funding and.

641
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:41,119
Speaker 1: And orphans are the best ones because they don't have

642
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:43,360
family or something to notice when they're gone, you know,

643
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,159
they're and even the cold hearted government officials can be like, oh, well,

644
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,559
we're lowering the overhead of the system. You know, that's

645
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,360
a few less miles to feed, and this, that and

646
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,440
the other, and even modern day called me conspiracy if

647
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,519
you won't. But during the Obama by administration, they you know,

648
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,519
they were separating the parents from the kids and putting

649
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,719
them in these cages. And then it was just a

650
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,639
few years ago they were talking about just all the

651
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:16,400
missing children. There was like, you know, almost like close

652
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,320
to like one hundred thousand kids or some kind of

653
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,079
crazy astronomical number that the kids are just missing. And yeah,

654
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:25,119
why would they open the borders, why would they say, yeah,

655
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:28,599
come on and bring them all in and then separate

656
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,599
the parents from the children, Because yeah, I think the

657
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,760
stuff that you're talking about is at play here.

658
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: Same with what happened with Ukraine. As a destabilized nation

659
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:41,920
in this moment due to foreign policy reasons. You know,

660
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,000
it's like, uh, it became the child trafficking hub, not

661
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:50,239
just child traffic, human trafficking hub of the world. Like

662
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,320
it's the allegedly, according to statistics and various data sets, Ukraine,

663
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,199
since this major conflict has occurred, has become the world's

664
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,719
hub of human trafficking. Of course, I mean that's natural

665
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,360
when you have a failed state, But at the same time,

666
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,719
it's it's like when you see the the direct influence

667
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,679
of the intelligence apparatus at play, and then you're well

668
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,559
aware of the fact that unfortunately, there have been you know,

669
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:23,880
diabolical connections directly made to intelligence operatives facilitating and you know,

670
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,400
not only facilitating, but covering up, you know, legitimate human

671
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,000
trafficking operations that have sadistically abused children as well. And

672
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:36,559
then you also realize that in terms of the overall

673
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:40,400
scope of the enterprise, what they are are ultimately pursuing

674
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,079
is far more sinister than just human trafficking or even

675
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:48,280
child sexual abuse, which is terrible to even imagine. But

676
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,760
there are layers deeper than darker than that that are

677
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,639
being pursued and organ harvesting. I mean at various levels

678
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:57,639
of you know, things that people wouldn't like to even

679
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,400
imagine happening in terms of snuff films and and ritual

680
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,760
murder happening on film, because the Detro Networks is a

681
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,119
great example in Belgium, and and what happens if you

682
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:11,880
age out of that network. You're ritualistically murdered on film.

683
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:16,280
And then they distribute that snuff film to sinister pedophiles

684
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,880
through pedophile publications that have been you know, they're underground

685
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,840
and they're covertly facilitated and distributed, but they exist. The

686
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,280
Hermes publication is one example of that. In Padika magazine,

687
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:32,719
that's another, I mean that's a legitimate pedophile magazine, right, Like, uh,

688
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,320
there's there's a crazy it was a bulletin that, yeah,

689
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,119
nambla bulletin right. The North American Man Boy Love Association,

690
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,840
My god, talk about an organization attempting to normalize pedophilia.

691
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,280
They're claiming that that they should be a protected class,

692
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:56,920
that they just love the children, right, and and they

693
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,960
want the best for the children, and and they're concerned

694
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,920
their legitimate welfare. But it's fascinating stuff because Paul Banassi claims.

695
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,519
This is very crazy. He says in an interview. There's

696
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:12,480
an interview given in ninety three to Paul Banassi, who's

697
00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:17,199
a victim of the Franklin scandal. Right, he's if people

698
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,880
aren't aware of who Banasi is, he comes up in

699
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,599
the Franklin scandal, and it's upsetting because clearly he's one

700
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:28,440
of the alleged victims, and he alleged that he was

701
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,280
sexually abused as a miner in Nebraska and around the

702
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,280
country where he was flown by Lawrence E. King who

703
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,440
sang the as I mentioned the national anthem at the

704
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,039
Republican National Convention in nineteen eighty four, directly connected into

705
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:46,519
George Bush Senior and the skull of bonesmen. Then obviously

706
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:50,679
more than just that. I think when you understand like.

707
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,119
Speaker 1: Who's back at a hailfire, you know exactly Management Franklin.

708
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,000
They found in that basement of that home he lived in,

709
00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:02,159
I think it was in London, you know, just hundreds

710
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:05,679
of bone human remains down in his basement.

711
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: Crazy, it's so crazy, and a lot of them were

712
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,239
looked like children, that's what they claimed, which is just.

713
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,119
Speaker 1: But that's kind of research. He had a room mate

714
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:20,159
at one time that was a physician and maybe he was,

715
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:22,800
you know, doing some autopsies and.

716
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,159
Speaker 2: They were great, right, that's what they say. They were

717
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:31,400
grave robbers for scientific experimentation purposes. Only what a very

718
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,960
convenient narrative beah.

719
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: Some of the bones were burned too, I'm sure, yeah,

720
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:37,000
that was part of the experiments too.

721
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:40,559
Speaker 2: Oh right. And by the way, that there's an occult

722
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,000
of facet to burning of a corpse that that apparently

723
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,079
comes in the form of some of the satanic occult

724
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:52,719
rituals that they, uh apparently they practice. And this came

725
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,320
in the form of the Cancora the Cancorra Boys home

726
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,440
scandal which blew me away. It all happened in fast

727
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,239
in Northern Ireland, and it's basically it was a failed

728
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,480
state as well, and there was a civil war that

729
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,719
had taken place, and it was all it was all uh,

730
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:14,960
you know, pushed and provoked and by British intelligence, Western

731
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,159
you know, US intelligence were involved directly as well. Yet

732
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,159
m I five that that were they called Operation Clockwork

733
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:25,559
Orange and and it was I believe it was named

734
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:27,639
after the film. I can't recall now if it was

735
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:30,920
before the film or after, but but either way it

736
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,719
was all about this sort of strategy of tension and

737
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,920
destabilizing Ireland and then sort of just ruling over the

738
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,800
ashes and as they do, you know typically and and

739
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,679
and but again it seemed like the alpha logis the

740
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,679
alpha Freemasonic lodges were directly connected into the effort and

741
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,920
the covert operations that were being conducted in Northern Ireland

742
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,679
and how they were funding these paramilitary organizations to sort

743
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:58,400
of create this strategy of tension and and destabilized through

744
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,159
you know, these various stabilization tactics. You know, they would

745
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:06,320
have domestic bombings, mass shootings, right, it's it's everything that

746
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,000
you could witness and what Jose and I refer to

747
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:12,880
Jose from Noway Jose and and we do a show

748
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,519
called Already Dead every Tuesday night at nine thirty Eastern time.

749
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,079
It's pretty fun. But we are kind of like we've

750
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:25,320
been kind of like working on this, this this theory

751
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,880
that essentially you know, Gladio Operation Gladio and the stay

752
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,599
behind networks that were laid after World War Two essentially

753
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:38,559
laid the international intelligence organization at large that you know,

754
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:43,559
essentially it provides them with with zero accountability and and

755
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:49,119
and also it circumvents world leaders in world governments to

756
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,400
a certain extent, and that's exactly what that gives.

757
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: Them the power And Zach folks, I mean for those

758
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,679
that's maybe not with us and thinking what we're just crazy.

759
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,800
I mean, this is the same company if you want

760
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,360
to call it a company, organization whatever, uh, that was

761
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:08,719
caught red handed back in that was the sixties and seventies,

762
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,159
that was smuggling cocaine and heroin over the border and

763
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,599
selling it and making money, making money off that, and

764
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:22,199
then compromising these mafia bosses because they were the ones

765
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,320
supplying them with all the drugs and then they didn't

766
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,079
get in line. Boom, there's you a drug bust. And

767
00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:30,920
at the same time, you know, breaking up homes, making

768
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,360
this whole fatherless nation going on, and just it's a

769
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,760
manufactured downward spiral for not only greed and money, but

770
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,199
for control of the populace and the people in the

771
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:45,039
power seats.

772
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I one hundred percent agree. I think it's

773
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:55,679
it's I mean, truly with it seems as if not

774
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,159
only the Gladiol network was laid in the right. You know,

775
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,159
you have the at lines that were clearly you know,

776
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,360
the sort of it was staged by the original OSS, right,

777
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,679
I forget what they were called before they even had

778
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:12,960
the OSS as far as the terminology they were utilizing

779
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,440
at the time, but they were working in hand in

780
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,840
hand with the Vatican at the time and where essentially

781
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,360
it was organized crime, right, So it was where the

782
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,960
mafia met with the Vatican and the intelligence footprint and

783
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,280
they were all essentially coexisting. And there's a book by

784
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,480
Paul Williams called Operation Gladio, The Unholy Alliance, and he

785
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,719
sort of stages how this alliance took place post World

786
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,639
War Two, and truly, at the very least that's where

787
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:49,039
it was, you know, implemented in its sort of systematic

788
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:54,000
structural integrity was implemented in that moment and ever since.

789
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,639
I mean you got the sixty three sort of killing

790
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:00,880
of the King ritual in Dallas because someone got a

791
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,880
little bit too, you know, I think just confident in

792
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,800
being able to expose the fraternal organizations of powerful influence

793
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,599
in certain ways, and in due to being initiated and

794
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:18,159
understanding how the power paradigm existed. That's the only reason

795
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:20,800
that JFK was willing to say some of the things

796
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,639
that he did was because he was so well aware

797
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:26,280
of the structured system and and wasn't Maybe he was

798
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,599
having a moral crisis. I don't know. It's hard to

799
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:33,000
decide why he would have made some of the statements

800
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,239
that he did. You know, I'm not trying to judge

801
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,400
the ethical values of an individual that's a stranger to me.

802
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,159
But you know, I can only gauge on what we

803
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,159
kind of know and what's publicly available.

804
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: Just before starts speaking out against these hidden hands, you

805
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,320
know exactly, and it's like within a couple of months

806
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,400
or something like that, it was a short time bring yeah, exactly.

807
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 2: He's unlived one hundred percent. And meanwhile, he's not only

808
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,880
going against the fraternal organizations which P two le circle,

809
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,440
these these these uh, you know, secret societies. They they

810
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:12,760
legitimately were members of the you know, Alan Dolis, Henry Kissinger,

811
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,320
these these individuals were legitimate members of these these secret

812
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,199
societies and and were you know, meeting uh to essentially

813
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,679
lay out the path for the ultimate agenda playing out

814
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,760
despite the president in power, it didn't matter. And so

815
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,960
this was the permanent establishment playing out in real time.

816
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,800
The reason why RFK and JFK when they took when

817
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,239
they assumed office, when JFK got elected. They didn't know

818
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,440
for months that that there were domestic black sites set

819
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:45,639
up all throughout the US that were essentially aren't training

820
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:52,400
the Cuban exiles in these domestic destabilization GLADIO techniques, right

821
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:57,039
and then and then utilizing them in domestic situations, right,

822
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,360
not only for so you had, like, uh, what they claimed,

823
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:02,360
and that comes up in the hand of Death and

824
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,559
Henry Lee Lucas in that context as well, because you're

825
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:09,320
witnessing again apparently during when Nixon was the vice president,

826
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,800
he apparently gave a call to uh uh, gave a

827
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,480
call to Howard Hughes, and he says, you know, for

828
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:21,760
plausible deniability purposes, we need you to set up these

829
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,039
these various domestic black sites, right, utilizing these shell corporations

830
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:31,559
and companies in these various paramilitary organizations. And and therefore

831
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:35,400
we can you know, sort of in this covert way,

832
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,039
we can train up these operatives to then green light

833
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:40,639
go at any at any moment in time to sort

834
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:44,079
of pave the way for various you know, precedent setting operations,

835
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,440
whether it's they want to pass certain legislation, uh, so

836
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,599
they want to manufacture consent to.

837
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean, they matter the pride stuff. I mean, where's

838
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,880
all this money coming from to fund this agenda and

839
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,960
cause this chaos? And yeah, you make a problem because

840
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,719
you already have a solution and an end goal that

841
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,239
you won't so you make this, you know, chaos. And hey,

842
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,480
we got the order right here. You know, nine to eleven,

843
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,880
got is so spook that we would do anything, give

844
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,239
away any freedoms in privacy we got if you can

845
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,840
guarantee us that the nine to eleven something like that

846
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,840
won't happen again, you know CV nineteen. Oh, yeah, you know,

847
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:30,360
we'll sign anything. Yeah, just keep us safe while take

848
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,079
this manufactured cure you got if we can all keep

849
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:37,079
our jobs and get back to normal. And then at

850
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,079
the same time, you got the leader of the world.

851
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,079
Things are not going to get back to normal until

852
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:49,079
ninety percent of the populace is taking our meds.

853
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:52,119
Speaker 2: That's seriously what I mean, And it is it is

854
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,639
into modern day. They're utilizing these very same techniques, and

855
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:58,559
that's we just refer to it as modern gladiol. That's

856
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,440
what I've been referring to it as recently, just because

857
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,920
it kind of to me, Gladiol just refers to this

858
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:11,400
sort of umbrella reference to these very you know, well established,

859
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,639
sophisticated methods that they utilize to urge, you know, not

860
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:21,119
only manufactured consent, but legitimately condition the public and put

861
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,159
them in a state of fear to where they're far

862
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,639
more willing to embrace the dystopian outcome. And that in

863
00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:31,599
itself is like psychological warfare at its best right. And

864
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:34,800
I think one of the greatest examples of who helped

865
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,559
seed this sort of psychological warfare conditioning system and put

866
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:43,760
it in a perfect place is is Michael Aquino, Lieutenant

867
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,960
Colonel Michael Achino, who he comes up so often. He's

868
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,000
he's a Satanic pedophile who was not only a member

869
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,599
and very close friends with Anton Levy and the member

870
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:57,400
of the Church of Satan. He then allegedly has a

871
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,719
dispute and a falling out with Anton Lavay. I don't

872
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:05,760
believe this. I think he legitimately took a fraction of

873
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,719
the members of the Church of Satan and then founded

874
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,559
what became an occult organization and you know, accult ideological

875
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:17,679
system itself, which was the Temple of Set And so

876
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,079
he created the Temple of Set which was, you know,

877
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,719
this sort of offshoot of the Church of Satan, and

878
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:27,440
they practiced this different you know, allegedly, this different ideology

879
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,239
they would practice, which you know, gave them what they

880
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,679
called the eternal Black Flame and that they themselves could

881
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,760
become their own gods. And and oh my god, it's

882
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,679
so crazy, man, because this comes into to play with

883
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,320
like a Peter Nigard type, right, they call Canada's Epstein

884
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,000
who the quote he had said that he was the

885
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:50,920
god of this eternal realm. Essentially, it was so crazy

886
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,239
actually reading what this guy said. Let me pull it

887
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,880
up actually, because it's so it's it's nuts. There. There

888
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,440
was this case that I saw Peter Niguard talk about.

889
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:06,840
Essentially he's standing there or is sitting there with one

890
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,760
of his friends who he jointly funds all of these

891
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:18,360
insane you know, sort of transhumanist modern eugenics theosophy.

892
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,519
Speaker 1: That's so amazing. I was about to bring that up,

893
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,079
and you did. You beat me to it. But they do.

894
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:27,599
I think they manufacture these branch offs. And they do

895
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:30,679
that because it's it's a wing of it's two wings

896
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:32,480
of the same bird. It's I think they do that

897
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:37,280
to widen their their reach because the core values are

898
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,000
the same. It's just they might did for a little

899
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,960
bit here, a little bit there, but they're really in

900
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,519
cahoots with one another. Because you had that with Madame

901
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:47,199
Levotsky and Alice Bailey. A lot of people don't really

902
00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:49,800
dig too deep into her, but I mean she followed

903
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,719
this occult of of Levotsky in California, and what happened

904
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,880
the same thing that you just described with that other guy.

905
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,320
They had a difference of opinion on some things. Oh

906
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,320
and they split yet and a fraction of them went

907
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,719
off and they moved to New York and they started

908
00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:08,840
this new branch of theosophy, all based on Madame Levotsky,

909
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,000
but just different cave yats. And they started the whole

910
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,000
Lucifer Trust Company and all of your world leaders without

911
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:19,760
fail or into this theosophy and transhumanism war in world

912
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,159
consciousness and all that kind of stuff.

913
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:29,119
Speaker 2: Not only was Peter Nigard harvesting eggs and and legit

914
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,760
from from from women, allegedly Epstein was as well at

915
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,239
his Zoril ranch property you had. Juliette Bryant was one

916
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,000
of the uh she was one of the victims of Epstein.

917
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,679
She's made a lot of very interesting claims, some of

918
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,119
them extremely I mean, they're extraordinary claims, but but still

919
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,400
much of what she says I take very seriously right.

920
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,440
And and she claims that she was one of Epstein's

921
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,480
victims trafficked and spent time at the Zoril Ranch property.

922
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,880
She wakes up paralyzed and naked on an operating table

923
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,679
while at Zoro Ranch in the middle of the night

924
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,199
one night, and all of the victims that go through

925
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,400
the same process as Juliet, she claims, have this same

926
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,679
symbolic a branding where they were branded with a blue

927
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,519
butterfly on them, which she says represents Lilith, the first

928
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:25,679
wife of Adam, who she says harvesting eggs was allegedly

929
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:29,360
a priority within Epstein's theory of eugenics, and they weren't

930
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,559
far at all at the Zorol property from this military base,

931
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:37,960
the Dulci Dulcy base allegedly, and so that was I

932
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,320
think a priority. And then you consider the fact that

933
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:44,840
Peter Nigard, as I just mentioned, Canada's Epstein, who was

934
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,400
involved in many of this transhumanist sort of scientific funding

935
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:56,159
enterprises with Epstein himself. They overlap being represented on this

936
00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:01,360
foundation called the Lifeboat Foundation, which is really crazy when

937
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,199
you look into what the hell was going on there

938
00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:06,760
because and by the way, Nigard he allegedly said this,

939
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,880
because he had this obsession with immortality, right, and he

940
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,519
has a god complex. And he's quoted saying in some

941
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:18,000
sort of like spontaneous shouting, you know, rage that he

942
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:20,519
was in. He says, I am God. Do you not

943
00:58:20,679 --> 00:58:23,440
understand this is my plane? I can do whatever the

944
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,480
hell I want? Right, Like that's the mentality of some

945
00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:31,440
of these individuals. And to understand that Epstein had a

946
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,760
stable of women he was attempting to impregnate at all

947
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,320
times in this effort to see the human race with

948
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:40,800
Epstein's I guess, yeah.

949
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing, I mean, one thing. It

950
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:46,199
brought it in my mind when you mentioned the butterfly branding.

951
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,800
You know, is it the monarch butterfly?

952
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: Right?

953
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,559
Speaker 1: And you do you have all this stuff doing with

954
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:56,480
monarch And it's an evolutionary thing because what do they say,

955
00:58:56,519 --> 00:59:00,599
They goes back to Hitler producing the perfect man, the

956
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:05,320
uber man, the uber man. That's what the whole you know, transhumanism.

957
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,039
Thing goal is it's to make humanity better, to make

958
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:12,039
them the supreme, uh, and to evolve them. Will you

959
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:15,400
look at the symbology of a butterfly. It's a little worm,

960
00:59:15,679 --> 00:59:18,920
and what happens It goes into a cocoon, bursts out,

961
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,480
and it's evolved in this beautiful thing to the next

962
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:22,440
stage of life.

963
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: You're totally right. Yeah, that that in itself is the

964
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,440
reason why it's it's very symbolic. It's the name Monarch,

965
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,760
I believe it was. I just read this amazing piece

966
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,480
by Ron Patten called Project Monarch and and he he

967
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,320
really does go all the way back to this the

968
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,159
Anglo Alliance in the nineteenth century. He talks about the

969
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:46,840
Bavarian Jesuits in the seventh in the seventeen seventies, and

970
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,000
he talks about the ancient you know, just the ancient

971
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:56,199
Uh what were the schools called in ancient Egypt? And

972
00:59:56,239 --> 00:59:58,559
then and then prior to that as well that I

973
00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:00,400
forget what they're called, but the there's.

974
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:03,119
Speaker 1: Essentially the mystery schools or.

975
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: The mystery schools. Yeah, thank you, that is what they're

976
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,480
typically referred to as. And he explains a lot of

977
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,400
how the casting of spells was truly just hypnotism and uh,

978
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,880
and that people were unaware of it was just different language.

979
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,280
It was couched in different language. And since since obviously

980
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,239
ancient times, it's been very much modernized in the terms

981
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,639
that they're they're utilizing. But modern mind control is legitimately magic, right,

982
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:31,079
It's a cult magic in many ways, and and and

983
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:37,199
utilizing even electro electromagnetic frequencies and e M f elf

984
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:41,079
they can allegedly, according to doctor Robert Duncan, this Harvard

985
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:45,599
scientist who claims that he he claims that he uh

986
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,519
interrogated or not interrogated, but just interviewed like thousands. No

987
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:53,199
hold on, let me get let me get the note

988
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:54,880
because I don't want to mess that up because it

989
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,079
is it's fascinating, uh when you actually find out what

990
01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:03,159
what he he alleges, especially in context.

991
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,119
Speaker 1: He is speak off top of my head, but I

992
01:01:06,199 --> 01:01:10,360
just recently read a book. It was by something Ferrell

993
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:15,400
is his last name, but Mark from my family thinks

994
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,280
I'm crazy, recommended it to me and like, I don't

995
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,719
agree with ninety percent of the stuff he's saying, but

996
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,239
he's talking about some stuff and pointing, you know, to

997
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,880
what I think is a common truth. He's just calling

998
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,960
it something else. I call it God, I call it,

999
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,559
you know, folling angels. He calls a man of Naki.

1000
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:35,519
I call him, you know, Genesis six, fallen angels. But

1001
01:01:35,639 --> 01:01:38,000
he's talking really heavily in one of the chapters about

1002
01:01:38,679 --> 01:01:41,920
MK Ultra and all the stuff that they were doing,

1003
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:46,519
and that he mentioned some professor from Harvard that invented

1004
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:53,000
some kind of electromagnetic wave machine that influences people and

1005
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:57,119
changes their minds and you can program influences into them

1006
01:01:57,159 --> 01:02:01,039
and thoughts, and they were actually planning they called him,

1007
01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:05,320
and this was supposed to supposedly unclassified documents. They called

1008
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:10,360
that guy. Uh during the uh Waco thing. What's that

1009
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,320
guy's name? God, Yes, they called him because remember how

1010
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,480
they they surrounded that place and they were shooting all

1011
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:20,440
these loud sirens and trying to do this psychological warfare,

1012
01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:24,000
So that they called that doctor and asked him to

1013
01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:27,760
use his machine on that camp and if they asked

1014
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,079
him if they think it would work, and he was like, yeah,

1015
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:32,039
I know the work. And he was like, well, come

1016
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:37,079
down here. We want you to uh subconsciously uh send

1017
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:41,760
out waves to make them kill themselves, just like the

1018
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,760
drinking of the kool aid. Do a mass suicide, the kid,

1019
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,320
you do that? And he said, yes, I could do that.

1020
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,559
He said, but I'm not doing that. And they never

1021
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,159
involved him. But there's supposedly unclassified documents and his testimony

1022
01:02:56,239 --> 01:02:59,079
that yeah, he created this thing, there's a patent for

1023
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,480
it in the US government. Even try to get him

1024
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,800
to use it against the Kreshians in Waco.

1025
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,639
Speaker 2: Absolutely no, that exists, one hundred percent. And there's even

1026
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:13,599
there's much more than that. There's there's essentially a report

1027
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:17,840
called the Wilchair Report as well. And this this blew

1028
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,079
my mind. Brother, like, hold on, let me pull this

1029
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:24,159
as well, because I just pulled the doctor Robert Duncan note.

1030
01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:26,119
We'll have to we'll have to talk about that.

1031
01:03:26,679 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: With the price of eggs and bread slowly approaching a

1032
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,400
day's wages, it's more important than ever than to secure

1033
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,840
the value of your dollar. One thing that has remained

1034
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,840
steady is gold and silver throughout the ages. Back in

1035
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,800
Roman times, a piece of gold would get you a

1036
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:51,400
toga that's the equivalent of three thousand dollars today. That

1037
01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:56,039
still remains true to this day. For a full suit shoes, tie.

1038
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,639
You're looking at about three thousand dollars because gold and

1039
01:03:59,679 --> 01:04:04,039
silver holds its value. So if you're tired of watching

1040
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,320
the value of your dollar go down every single day,

1041
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,320
it's time to get off your hands and make a move.

1042
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:16,679
I recently teamed with Cornerstone Asset Metals. Reach out to

1043
01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:20,239
those guys for all of your financial needs. It's time

1044
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,159
to trade in that forever devaluing dollar into hard assets

1045
01:04:25,159 --> 01:04:28,039
that you can hold like gold and silver. Be sure

1046
01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:30,000
and check the link down in the description or the

1047
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:33,280
number on the screen, and hey tell them Doc Brown.

1048
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: Sidin't you the Waco aspect of mind control being involved?

1049
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:41,800
Like I was very much unaware of it, and I

1050
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,400
had done an episode early on about Waco, but I

1051
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,480
had never stumbled across now I had known they used

1052
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,480
this sort of psychological warfare on the Branch Davidians during

1053
01:04:54,519 --> 01:04:59,239
the siege obviously, where they're playing like ridiculous, They're playing

1054
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,760
like rabbits being slaughtered, Buddhists chanting. It's all layered over

1055
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,280
each other. It's like it's legitimately like the the what

1056
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,800
did they call them, the man psychological Warriors or something,

1057
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,360
I can't remember. When they were doing the Uh, the

1058
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,320
sort of you know experiments within the military.

1059
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: Where they debation, you know, keep them up, they wouldn't

1060
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,159
let them sleep and drive them.

1061
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:28,159
Speaker 2: Crazy exactly the clockwork orange style like you know, sort

1062
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:31,679
of like forcing their eyelids open while they they forced

1063
01:05:31,719 --> 01:05:34,840
them to watch you know, over and over these these uh,

1064
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,639
these various kind of like you know, it was usually

1065
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,840
very violent imagery that would be just patterned into each

1066
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,840
other and like forcefully shown over and over in this

1067
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,920
recycled way. And uh, and it was supposed to be

1068
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,840
obviously programming them. Uh, but it was strange because there

1069
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,599
was far more to it. I think that especially when

1070
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:02,599
you see how individuals are potentially programmed with subliminals while

1071
01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:06,440
they're asleep, that kind of blows me away, right, But

1072
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:11,320
it goes as far as like doctor Robert Duncan I

1073
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,719
had brought up his name earlier, right, and this kind

1074
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:19,159
of like it's something that to me, it offered a

1075
01:06:19,199 --> 01:06:22,960
window into how modern mind control can potentially, you know,

1076
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:31,880
be utilized in this new found application where potentially this

1077
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,800
doctor Robert Duncan had he was a Harvard graduate who

1078
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,679
had written this book. He's an investigator and the book

1079
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:42,159
was called Projects soul Catcher, secrets of cyber and cybernetic

1080
01:06:42,199 --> 01:06:48,360
warfare revealed, and he explains in twenty twelve that for

1081
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,039
the past ten years he had personally interviewed more than

1082
01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:54,119
six hundred and fifty people who claim to have been

1083
01:06:54,199 --> 01:06:57,800
under government mind control, and many of them said they

1084
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,039
were in the Manchurian Candidate ID program. Free he went

1085
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:04,920
to the Senate Intelligence Committee and met with twenty six

1086
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,400
senators as well as the head of the LAFBI. After

1087
01:07:08,599 --> 01:07:11,400
he works with the consortium of scientists on a research

1088
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,079
project for over eight years. He provides the closest estimate

1089
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:18,679
he could reach, and he says that there are about

1090
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,719
ten thousand Mancharan candidates in the works being programmed by

1091
01:07:22,719 --> 01:07:25,480
the CIA right now that can be used at any

1092
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:29,960
time around the world, and that he also claims and

1093
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:34,920
concludes that only a small percentage of these ten thousand

1094
01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:41,199
are actually successful Mancharians, and that apparently this provides the

1095
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:46,039
CIA and allows them to subvert certain international laws forbidding

1096
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:49,159
the agency to engage in the assassination of foreign leaders

1097
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,760
through the strategy of indirection, or utilizing agency handlers to

1098
01:07:53,800 --> 01:08:00,159
indoctrinate individuals into these Mancharan candidate programs self righteously apparently

1099
01:08:00,199 --> 01:08:06,239
it's you know you're seeing, just like many different examples

1100
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,039
of how they'll self righteously assert plausible deniability after the fact.

1101
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:14,199
But doctor Robert Duncan claims that a lot of these

1102
01:08:14,199 --> 01:08:18,920
alleged mass shooters, he says, such as James Holmes, falls

1103
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,159
into this Manterean candidate category as well, and he suggests

1104
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,720
one of the ultimate priorities is to predominantly manufacture consent

1105
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:33,439
for landmark gun legislation, largely encouraging Americans to disarm themselves

1106
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:40,279
through a combination of drugs, manipulative psychological techniques, and advanced cybernetics.

1107
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,159
They have achieved many of the goals of Project mk Ultra.

1108
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:49,760
He explains that modern day technology does not require brain implants,

1109
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:53,119
although they do work very well, but they seem to

1110
01:08:53,119 --> 01:08:56,640
rely much more on post hypnotic suggestion. Now, I thought

1111
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:02,800
that was interesting, especially considering the DOGE employee Big Balls.

1112
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,199
I forget what his actual name is now, Corasteine something Corasteine,

1113
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,079
and he was the one who was allegedly just beaten

1114
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:14,600
in DC and provided like it was the weak prior

1115
01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:19,520
to provide the sort of foundation and precedent setting notion

1116
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,359
that would potentially manufacture consent for the federal takeover. That

1117
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:28,640
was called Liberation Day of DC. And the basically not

1118
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,560
only was the National Guard brought in, but the federal

1119
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,239
investment just the Metropolitan DC Metropolitan Police Department was essentially

1120
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:42,800
overruled by the federal agents who took control and superseded

1121
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,279
the mayor and anyone else who was involved at the

1122
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,760
local level. So it's just another way to centralize power

1123
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,800
to the federal government obviously, right, But there are these

1124
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,159
precedent setting operations on each side of the political spectrum

1125
01:09:56,199 --> 01:10:01,239
that will manufacture consent for these very same uh you know,

1126
01:10:01,359 --> 01:10:05,479
dystopian measures and policies that are then you know, entirely

1127
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:11,399
what's it called, just just you know, abused, right, it's

1128
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,920
just a complete abuse of power. Right. And once more,

1129
01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:19,439
they never you never witnessed the state, uh you know,

1130
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,560
acknowledging the fact that, oh, whoops, we took a little

1131
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,000
bit too much control here, we should we should ease

1132
01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:31,640
back you know our overall Right, Yeah, dystopian totalitarian nature

1133
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,600
of how the state kind of functions.

1134
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,359
Speaker 1: It's really say, yeah, you overpaid me, you know, a

1135
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,199
thousand dollars on this check. I rightfully couldn't take this here,

1136
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,600
take it back now that that never.

1137
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 2: Exactly, but but yeah, that just to me. It's it's

1138
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:52,600
interesting because I found out that that individual DOGE employee

1139
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,199
who was allegedly kind of beat and provided that this

1140
01:10:55,239 --> 01:10:57,600
sort of at least if you look at the crime

1141
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,920
statistics allegedly, it's not like it's even crime is a

1142
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,520
little bit down in DC compared to you know, the

1143
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,039
pastor I'm not saying crime is great or anything. I'm

1144
01:11:07,079 --> 01:11:10,000
just I'm just saying that it doesn't seem that it

1145
01:11:10,039 --> 01:11:12,479
seems as if there is an agenda at play here

1146
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,760
and we're potentially being led by the nose into embracing it.

1147
01:11:17,119 --> 01:11:22,880
And based on these kind of recent public publicated just

1148
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,239
these articles that have been published that that kind of

1149
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:30,399
provide this this precedent setting notion, and I think, uh

1150
01:11:31,399 --> 01:11:35,039
provide the general public with an incentive to call for,

1151
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,960
you know, we need a crackdown you know on crime

1152
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,560
and DC or wherever. And I'm not saying that that's

1153
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,600
outside the realm of possibility as far as crime is

1154
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,560
concerned in these areas, but I am saying that the

1155
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:52,079
federal government abuse of power is never the solution, at

1156
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:55,399
least in my mind, right. I just think that that's

1157
01:11:55,399 --> 01:11:59,520
a slippery slope. And inevitably, you know, when the power

1158
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,960
parent when the pendulum of of in DC, as far

1159
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,079
as the power cabal and the the presidential administration in

1160
01:12:07,159 --> 01:12:11,000
office swings to the other side, Uh, each individual will

1161
01:12:11,119 --> 01:12:15,520
well obviously it never ends well, right for for kind

1162
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:20,239
of like creating these uh these Yeah, it's it's really

1163
01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:23,520
just another power grab, right in my mind. And so

1164
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,199
I'm looking at all of that and how it factors

1165
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:30,600
into potentially this big balls right, who has been the

1166
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,720
DOJE employee who also first became like very much in

1167
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,960
the public spotlight a few months back for another sort

1168
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,159
of political agenda that was attached to him, which was

1169
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,680
just the defunding of certain federal you know, organizations like

1170
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,920
US A, I, D and things of that nature. And uh,

1171
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,680
and so he's already provided a sort of precedent setting

1172
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,239
notion in the framework of the mainstream media. And so

1173
01:12:56,399 --> 01:13:00,159
now he's so it turns out that this individual gets

1174
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:05,000
gets assaulted in d C and provides Trump with with

1175
01:13:05,079 --> 01:13:09,439
this sort of at least he even referenced this specific

1176
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,600
case for an example as to how crime is out

1177
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,880
of control in d C, right and how this this

1178
01:13:15,079 --> 01:13:18,640
uh what's it called the Home Rule Act would be

1179
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,199
the next step of liberating d C. That was a

1180
01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:24,560
week prior to him actually doing that this week and so,

1181
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,920
and then of course he threatens to do this in

1182
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,319
New York, Chicago and Los Angeles as well. So it's

1183
01:13:31,399 --> 01:13:31,960
again it's.

1184
01:13:32,279 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: Say California number one. Thing popped in my head, and

1185
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:39,760
it's like these people don't realize, Uh, they're against the

1186
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,760
administration right now, you know, ideology, you know, with their

1187
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,520
ideology and things. So it's like, yeah, if you're going

1188
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,399
in the street and you're rioting and you're burning you

1189
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,439
see these down and businesses and stuff like that, you're

1190
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,399
not doing yourselves any favor, folks, because no, because you know,

1191
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,880
the state is supposed to take care of itself. So

1192
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,359
if you are this huge disruption and the state can't

1193
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:04,800
handle it, what do you think is going to happen? Next?

1194
01:14:05,319 --> 01:14:08,159
Martial law? The federal government. The Feds are going to

1195
01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:10,239
come in and lock you down, and then they're going

1196
01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:14,359
to get control over your state exactly. But I think

1197
01:14:14,359 --> 01:14:16,279
it's a mixture. I mean, I think it is just

1198
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,960
ignorant people. You know, that's from this generation of safe

1199
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,039
spaces and crying and pitching a fit in the dollar

1200
01:14:25,079 --> 01:14:28,319
store or Walmart to get that toy they wanted and

1201
01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:31,079
they didn't get their ass busted. So they think it's

1202
01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:32,960
okay to do that now, and if they do that,

1203
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,920
they'll get their way. But at the same time, I

1204
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,319
think there's like you talked about, there's there's implants. There's

1205
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:42,600
Feds and people there that entice the crowd that throw

1206
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,640
the first brick, you know, or you know, I mean

1207
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,039
push them to get to that point, because we even

1208
01:14:48,079 --> 01:14:52,560
seen that with the January sixth stuff. Now it's come

1209
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,520
out there were so many FEDS in that crowd that

1210
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,199
was leading the charge, and you know that trying to

1211
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,439
encourage that the herd mentality, so to speak.

1212
01:15:02,079 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: And the disappearing pipe bomber too, right, that that guy

1213
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:07,560
was a fed straight up, Like there's there's a legitimate

1214
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,760
footprint you can tie back. It's it's very strange how

1215
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,239
many different examples you can point to that show that

1216
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:17,439
you had spooks infiltrating and escalating, and that's what they

1217
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,800
do at every level to attempt to obviously undermine the

1218
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,359
credibility of a protest in general, which you know, say

1219
01:15:24,399 --> 01:15:27,159
whatever you want. I personally, you know, I don't think

1220
01:15:27,279 --> 01:15:30,720
much is accomplished by protesting. I think it's it's more like,

1221
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,680
if you show up at a protest, you're kind of

1222
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,680
setting yourself up and you're running a very high risk

1223
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,680
of becoming vulnerable in that moment and clearly being implicated

1224
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,159
in some sort of criminal uh you know, escalation that

1225
01:15:44,199 --> 01:15:46,960
would occur, and information gathering.

1226
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 1: All the zones and cameras at these things, they're getting

1227
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,840
more profiles on you, all your facial features, all this

1228
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,760
stuff is getting put into a program and you're being profiled.

1229
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: Man, absolutely, yeah, that's a you know, there's no doubt

1230
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,520
in my mind. But the only reason I brought all

1231
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,279
that up was because I felt like I found out

1232
01:16:07,319 --> 01:16:11,600
that that kid, that DOESE employee, he was prior to

1233
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:17,439
being employed at DOGE, he worked for Neuralink, and so

1234
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:22,920
I was just like, oh, no, imagining microchips right, modern

1235
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,119
versions of the Mentorian candidate programs and how yes they

1236
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:30,199
utilized microchips, but post hypnotic suggestion actually works far more

1237
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,279
superior as far as the effective nature of it. But

1238
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,720
still it's imagining, not saying there's any real evidence of this,

1239
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,760
but imagine if you wanted to put you know, just

1240
01:16:42,319 --> 01:16:46,079
let's say, position a strategic asset in place, and he

1241
01:16:46,199 --> 01:16:49,199
were a part of some sort of precedent setting operation

1242
01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:53,039
that included a mentorian candidate to just you know, obviously

1243
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:58,720
provide an avenue to manufacturing consent for some sort of

1244
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,960
dystopian policy that is par for the course in my mind.

1245
01:17:03,359 --> 01:17:05,439
And uh, and so it just it's it's on the

1246
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,960
table as a legitimate option as far as uh, you

1247
01:17:08,039 --> 01:17:10,640
never know what they're attempting to achieve. And I think

1248
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,640
the strategic nature of the clandestine operations they run domestically

1249
01:17:15,159 --> 01:17:19,279
it fits perfectly and and in no way, especially understanding

1250
01:17:19,319 --> 01:17:22,760
Elon's history and his his family alone, like his grandfather

1251
01:17:23,039 --> 01:17:27,960
hold Himan, he like he he ran u uh uh

1252
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,840
Technocracy Incorporated was the organization that he ran. And he

1253
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,920
was a part of the Social Credit uh, the Social

1254
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,399
Credit Party in Canada. So you want to know what

1255
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,720
actually every single principle that Elon Musk is attempting to pursue,

1256
01:17:44,199 --> 01:17:47,479
it comes exactly from that playbook that his own, you know,

1257
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,720
totalitarian grant or you know grandfather was was pursuing as well,

1258
01:17:52,279 --> 01:17:54,520
you know, or I think it was his grandfather. Yeah,

1259
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,960
And uh, it's just to me, it proves out that

1260
01:17:58,079 --> 01:18:04,800
so many of these individuals, prominent individuals, are manufactured personalities,

1261
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:07,560
you know, to sort of be larger than life, this

1262
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,119
sort of fairy tale notion that that the general public

1263
01:18:11,159 --> 01:18:14,680
will eat up at face value, and they will again

1264
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,079
create those platforms for the false idols to be worshiped

1265
01:18:19,359 --> 01:18:21,800
to where then they will just you know, just fall

1266
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:26,960
perfectly into place, be be corralled back into this establishment line.

1267
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,920
And and to me, it's it's always they're they're attempting

1268
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:36,319
to offer these plausible alternative solutions that truly are just

1269
01:18:36,399 --> 01:18:41,279
another trap that will help facilitate the very same dystopian agenda.

1270
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,680
And that's where you have to be remain skeptical at

1271
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,079
all times. You know, you can't play I don't play

1272
01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:51,880
partisan politics. I don't have like any sort of you know,

1273
01:18:52,079 --> 01:18:54,640
I don't believe anyone's coming to save us in terms

1274
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,560
of a human being who has our best interest at

1275
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,359
heart and rises to the center of power and dec see,

1276
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,079
I don't believe that is possible, you know, I think

1277
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:07,239
you let essentially you have to be corrupt and compromised

1278
01:19:07,279 --> 01:19:11,640
at a certain level, you'll never reach these prominent positions

1279
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,520
of power. And and I think that's been very much

1280
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,680
exposed over time. And and there's a reason why. It's like,

1281
01:19:19,159 --> 01:19:23,159
what is a president. It's it's essentially the the individual

1282
01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:26,319
in charge of public relations for the general public. You know.

1283
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,159
It's like he's out there trying to manage public perception

1284
01:19:30,359 --> 01:19:34,079
for the you know, the overall elitist agenda playing out

1285
01:19:34,079 --> 01:19:38,279
and and you know, whatever whatever version of it you

1286
01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:41,520
want to call it, I mean the Great Reset, Operation Lockstep.

1287
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:49,239
I mean, in every way, they're pursuing an identical agenda, right,

1288
01:19:49,319 --> 01:19:53,079
it doesn't matter which political party is in charge of government.

1289
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: Utopia. They've been slowly turning up that boiling water. It's

1290
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,560
like the frog and water. You know, if you turn

1291
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,680
it straight up to one hundred, that thing's going to

1292
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,520
feel the heat and jump out. But if you just

1293
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,640
slowly notch it up, you know, over fifty years, sixty years,

1294
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,359
just little by little, you're not going to notice it

1295
01:20:10,399 --> 01:20:12,359
till it's too late. And that's the plan.

1296
01:20:13,359 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, And I think it's in every way we're

1297
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,039
seeing we're witnessing the pivot to technocracy and the digital

1298
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:25,600
enslavement that they're attempting to achieve obviously and guaranty YEP,

1299
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,079
which hand in hand with what the social credit model

1300
01:20:29,119 --> 01:20:31,920
of the sort of the social credit score model of

1301
01:20:32,319 --> 01:20:36,720
the everything app that maybe what was Klaus Schwab saying,

1302
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,079
he was warning, he was threatening the general public, claiming

1303
01:20:40,119 --> 01:20:45,560
the next, the next.

1304
01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: The next MPs and the down of the electrical grid exactly.

1305
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 2: He said it will make COVID pale in comparison, and essentially.

1306
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:58,239
Speaker 1: They were talking about the worldwide pandemic before it happened exactly.

1307
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,359
Speaker 2: I mean, event to a one is such a great

1308
01:21:00,359 --> 01:21:04,720
example of the tabletop simulation exercise, but it goes far

1309
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:09,960
beyond that. I mean, they've been manufacturing that crisis for

1310
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,279
quite some time and it just, honestly, I think they're

1311
01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:16,359
even potentially ahead of schedules. As much as it achieved,

1312
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:20,079
really in terms of a president setting operation. I mean,

1313
01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:23,880
my god, the dystopian nature of the COVID policies and

1314
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:28,920
how they were embraced so willingly due to a perceived

1315
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,720
threat which was just entirely again manufactured in more ways

1316
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,600
than one, and it's just to me, it was very

1317
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,840
It was very frustrating to witness and live through, right,

1318
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,640
because it revealed how much we've all been conditioned. But

1319
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:49,399
at the same time, it just goes to show how

1320
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:54,520
critical thinking skills just go out the window whenever, yeah,

1321
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:59,880
someone feels there's a potential threat, you know, and that's

1322
01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:02,880
that's what you have to defend yourself against. Is that

1323
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,680
sort of weakness? Right? That?

1324
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,359
Speaker 1: And it's nothing new, right, you know, Solomon? Is that

1325
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,399
best nothing news on the sun? You got Benjamin Franklin

1326
01:22:11,279 --> 01:22:13,840
talking about, you know, hundreds of years ago. What did

1327
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,760
he say? He said that those that will trade their

1328
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:22,800
freedom for the illusion of security deserve neither. So they

1329
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,279
were doing this crap back then.

1330
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, and that is one hundred percent true. And

1331
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:34,560
they've been problem reaction solution for for you know how

1332
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,399
how long, and it's legitimately, I think, proven to be

1333
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,680
a very efficient and effective model, and that is the

1334
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,479
reason why they continue to utilize the very same playbook

1335
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,359
that But it's also allowed for individuals who like ourselves,

1336
01:22:52,399 --> 01:22:56,560
who at least kind of possess this pattern recognition ability,

1337
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,680
you know what I mean, it's just at the very

1338
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,680
least due to a overexposure, it's it's kind of become

1339
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,680
a skill set right in a way, and I'm very

1340
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,000
much proud of that fact that I kind of feel

1341
01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:12,119
like I have the tools necessary to not fall for

1342
01:23:12,279 --> 01:23:15,800
the deception, right, which is always deliberately being placed and

1343
01:23:16,119 --> 01:23:21,319
presented to us. Then, but again it's like we're we're

1344
01:23:21,359 --> 01:23:25,000
all I think, vulnerable to much of the deception. So

1345
01:23:25,079 --> 01:23:27,079
it's just again we have to be aware of that

1346
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,640
and again be cautious and in sort of engaging in

1347
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:36,600
a lot of this just manipulation, you know. And and

1348
01:23:37,319 --> 01:23:39,880
but I will say that the craziest part of what

1349
01:23:40,039 --> 01:23:43,000
doctor Robert Duncan said blew me away, and it was

1350
01:23:43,119 --> 01:23:46,479
just kind of on. And also I think the Project

1351
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,039
Monarch we should discuss a little bit deeper as well,

1352
01:23:49,079 --> 01:23:51,840
because of how much I think there's a spiritual connection

1353
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,960
to the Altars and implementing the dissociative identity disorder and

1354
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:03,439
the multiple personality disorder which allegedly through Monarch and and

1355
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,319
the sort of trauma sexual, uh, you know, abuse that

1356
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:11,800
that they would utilize as a tool. Essentially, they claim

1357
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,800
that it's far more efficient in the prepubescent context, which

1358
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:21,119
is terrible and disgusting, but legitimately They claim that the

1359
01:24:21,119 --> 01:24:26,720
the the traumatic abuse. Uh. Allegedly, it is far more

1360
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,279
efficient and effective in in the younger the victim.

1361
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,279
Speaker 1: And it's an alternate personality where the alternate personality takes

1362
01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:36,039
the trauma and puts it in a little box in

1363
01:24:36,079 --> 01:24:38,560
their brain, you know, I mean it kind of they

1364
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,159
branch offie it.

1365
01:24:40,359 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's the fight or flight response that essentially

1366
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,479
they it's it's a way to endure the abuse in

1367
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,239
this sort of distant way. You can you can attempt

1368
01:24:51,319 --> 01:24:53,960
to protect yourself within the context of your own mind

1369
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,640
from the abuse that's playing out. And uh yeah, it's

1370
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,239
disturbing as hell to even content later can see, you know,

1371
01:25:01,399 --> 01:25:05,600
just as far as the conception alone. But yeah, basically

1372
01:25:06,039 --> 01:25:09,920
in this insane context of of you know, the combination

1373
01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:15,279
of different methods they would utilize for human behavioral modification research. Uh.

1374
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,199
Doctor Robert Duncan claims that this the modern day technology.

1375
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,720
As as I mentioned, they rely much more on post

1376
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,000
hypnotic suggestion, although although the you know, brain implants do

1377
01:25:26,119 --> 01:25:29,199
work well. But then he says, one of the goals

1378
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,479
is to of course confirm what we're saying, to create

1379
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:37,359
split personality. But split split personality spies, so they could

1380
01:25:37,399 --> 01:25:41,119
pass information without even knowing it, and even commit murder

1381
01:25:41,159 --> 01:25:43,119
with no memory of the crime, so they could still

1382
01:25:43,159 --> 01:25:46,720
pass a polygraph test, which is exactly what happened to

1383
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,920
Sir Hans. Sirhan like he had no idea what had happened.

1384
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,399
And when he's tackled to the ground after shooting the

1385
01:25:53,399 --> 01:25:56,880
blanks and the pantry at the Ambassador Hotel, right when

1386
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:01,760
RFK was assassinated, Uh, he's he's like he's in a trance,

1387
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,319
one hundred percent. He's tackled to the ground and he's

1388
01:26:04,319 --> 01:26:08,039
still excessively he can't stop pulling, pulling an imaginary He's

1389
01:26:08,319 --> 01:26:12,239
still pulling the trigger on a weapon that isn't even

1390
01:26:12,319 --> 01:26:15,239
in his hand anymore. And and that goes to show

1391
01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:17,640
when he's he's put into a trance on the record

1392
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,760
and during the trial where he uh, he does the

1393
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,159
exact same thing where they walk him through the scene

1394
01:26:24,199 --> 01:26:27,880
in the pantry and he just starts convulsing and and

1395
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,920
he starts pulling an imaginary trigger. And it was just

1396
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,920
obviously a part of his programming, and so it wasn't

1397
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,319
as if he was he was pulling a trigger knowingly.

1398
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:42,039
Uh you know, Uh basically how it was presented was

1399
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:44,760
essentially that he was he was shooting blanks as a

1400
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,079
distractionary tactic from the actual assassin who was point blank

1401
01:26:49,159 --> 01:26:53,880
range behind rfk's head. And his name was Thane Eugene Cizar.

1402
01:26:54,279 --> 01:26:57,479
He's actually like he I think he he got away

1403
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,439
with with, you know, sort of he got away with

1404
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,199
getting rid of the weapon in a very sloppy way.

1405
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,399
But it was due to his connections to Howard Hughes

1406
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,000
and the intelligence apparatus at the time. And again he's

1407
01:27:11,039 --> 01:27:14,359
like connected as a mafia hit man. So he was

1408
01:27:14,399 --> 01:27:18,119
a hit man hired by the intelligence apparatus through Howard

1409
01:27:18,199 --> 01:27:21,840
Hughes Shell Corporation to show up as a as a

1410
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,279
security guard moonlighting at the Ambassador Hotel just before RFK

1411
01:27:25,399 --> 01:27:30,439
is about to have his his major you know, addressed

1412
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:35,079
to the public right after he gets elected essentially as

1413
01:27:35,159 --> 01:27:40,039
as the the primary Democratic representative going forward and in

1414
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,279
the because it was the primary process at the time,

1415
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,840
So he was basically being awarded you know, his his

1416
01:27:47,159 --> 01:27:50,359
political victory for for winning the primaries and becoming the

1417
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:56,039
main Democratic representative going forward for the presidential campaign and

1418
01:27:56,239 --> 01:27:58,479
h and again he was in no way going to lose.

1419
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:04,000
I don't think that that president election cycle, and mainly

1420
01:28:04,119 --> 01:28:08,239
just due to his relationship, as you know, JFK's brother.

1421
01:28:08,319 --> 01:28:11,479
Honestly at that time, let alone some of his you know,

1422
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,920
civil rights and stuff like that, that was being very

1423
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,640
much like at least.

1424
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 1: Brother was hale on their system. So they just I'm

1425
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,800
sure they safely assumed the brother would be too.

1426
01:28:22,319 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: Exactly and what is it sixty eight whenever he gets

1427
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,520
assassinated and JFK was in sixty three. And what's more

1428
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:33,039
fascinating about all of that is that in the RFK assassination,

1429
01:28:33,159 --> 01:28:35,560
I couldn't believe it, but he it turns out that

1430
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,720
it apparently just before he would go to the Ambassador Hotel.

1431
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:47,640
It's it's fascinating because it turns out that Richard Condon,

1432
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,279
the individual the men training candidate right, the original book

1433
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,600
was written. And it turns out that John Frankenheimer Right,

1434
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,239
who adapted the original film, he adapted it in sixty two.

1435
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,920
It was October of sixty two, and the story, obviously

1436
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,399
the plot of the Manchaaran candidate is a covert communist

1437
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:13,159
plot to kill the president, and Right and Frankenheimer had

1438
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:17,720
originally sought out JFK's approval of the film, allegedly due

1439
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,159
to the heightened state of the political climate in America

1440
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:24,039
at the time. JFK allegedly urges him to follow through

1441
01:29:24,079 --> 01:29:28,159
with the project anyway, and then by November of sixty three,

1442
01:29:28,319 --> 01:29:31,239
so in less than a year's time, or no, in

1443
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:34,640
a year and a month. Essentially, yeah, a little bit

1444
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,359
less he would be. He would be assassinated in Dallas.

1445
01:29:38,399 --> 01:29:41,880
But what's more interesting to me is that you had

1446
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:48,399
a dinner party take place five years after the assassination

1447
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,119
of JFK. And by the way, after he's assassinated, the

1448
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:55,079
film was pulled out of circulation until eighty seven.

1449
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,439
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1452
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1454
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1455
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1456
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Speaker 2: And I didn't realize the original film was actually pulled

1457
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,359
from circulation because I mean, if you watch the Manterraean Candidate,

1458
01:30:41,359 --> 01:30:44,039
it's crazy. It I mean it's it's Frank Sinatra. And

1459
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:48,399
then and what's her name? Either way, this individual is

1460
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:52,119
programmed to legitimately walk up and kill his own his own, uh,

1461
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:56,159
you know, a soldier that he had known personally and

1462
01:30:56,199 --> 01:30:58,199
then he served in the military with and he was

1463
01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:01,479
friends with this individual, and he he was just put

1464
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,920
into a hypnotic trance, provided with the trigger words necessary

1465
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,319
for him to be triggered into that, you know, obvious

1466
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,560
a programming that he had been practicing a while and

1467
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,039
a hypnotic trance prior, and and then he would act

1468
01:31:16,079 --> 01:31:21,199
out as programming entirely, you know, sociopathic, unemotionally, walk up

1469
01:31:21,399 --> 01:31:24,319
as if nothing else was different. And uh, and the

1470
01:31:24,359 --> 01:31:27,600
individual who he's who he's, you know, order to shoot

1471
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:32,319
in this sort of environment where where they're they're presenting

1472
01:31:32,359 --> 01:31:36,039
this to to like a panel of scientists essentially, who

1473
01:31:36,039 --> 01:31:40,079
are are sitting in like theater seats watching this take place,

1474
01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:44,279
with a military official leading the process all the way

1475
01:31:44,279 --> 01:31:47,880
in a scientist as well, I think, either way, and

1476
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,359
and you witness him getting giving, you know, being given

1477
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:55,399
his his a trigger as far as the words that

1478
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:59,439
are necessary to trigger the trance, and then he he

1479
01:32:00,079 --> 01:32:05,039
proceeds to walk forward and you know, shoot his his

1480
01:32:05,279 --> 01:32:08,239
what would basically be one of his closest friends in

1481
01:32:08,279 --> 01:32:10,399
the head, who is also sort of in a trance

1482
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,600
and just smiling right, And it just goes to show

1483
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:18,279
that there's no emotional impact when you're carrying out your programming.

1484
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:23,800
But the fact of the matter is that this individual, Frankenheimer,

1485
01:32:24,039 --> 01:32:27,600
who had sought out JFK's you know, approval for the

1486
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,479
film just before he would die, and then the film

1487
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,479
itself would go out of circulation until twenty five years later.

1488
01:32:34,079 --> 01:32:37,359
Speaker 1: Well, Frankenheimer knew, you know what I mean, that's what

1489
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,039
I think. I think it's like he knew they were

1490
01:32:39,079 --> 01:32:40,399
after and they were going to kill him, and this

1491
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:42,439
guy come up with this movie. Yes, push that out

1492
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,840
that way when something happens. To me, people have a

1493
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,520
clue and know what's going on. It sounds like it

1494
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,840
after the fact they yanked it and it's like, now

1495
01:32:50,399 --> 01:32:53,439
we'll let this come out once everybody's forgot about him.

1496
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 2: Exactly, especially since it's you know, the mind control nature

1497
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,000
of that plot is what is most fascinating to me,

1498
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,800
not just the Manchurian aspect of what they were able

1499
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:10,439
to accomplish. But the fact that in sixty eight there's

1500
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,079
a dinner party five years after the death of JFK.

1501
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:18,840
And it's hosted by Frankenheimer himself, and Robert Kennedy happens

1502
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,279
to be at this party, right then he's apparently the

1503
01:33:22,319 --> 01:33:26,000
party is being hosted by Frankenheimer four on behalf of

1504
01:33:26,079 --> 01:33:30,920
Robert Kennedy, And so who's at this dinner party? And

1505
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:36,960
by the way, apparently it gets far more interesting than this,

1506
01:33:37,159 --> 01:33:40,720
because it turns out that there were a Sirhan. Sirhan

1507
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:45,199
was allegedly at a party hosted at Sharon Tate's house

1508
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,319
as well. So that's very interesting, especially concerning the Manson

1509
01:33:49,399 --> 01:33:53,479
murders and Sharon Tate, you know, the fertility death ritual

1510
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,640
that she was sort of, you know, forced to endure.

1511
01:33:58,159 --> 01:34:01,680
But they were all practicing craft. They were members of

1512
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,199
the Processed Church of the Final Judgment as well, and

1513
01:34:04,279 --> 01:34:08,800
allegedly were visiting the Rome chapter for a short time

1514
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,319
before they came back in and Sharon Tate was murdered,

1515
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,239
which is very interesting. And then that Rome chapter of

1516
01:34:15,279 --> 01:34:19,159
the process shut down right after the Manson murders took place.

1517
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,800
In the Local chapter that was associated with Pasadena and

1518
01:34:23,159 --> 01:34:26,760
the law, the Freemasonic lodge in that area, and the

1519
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,760
what do they call it, the Devil's Staircase, and these

1520
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,600
various locations where they were all meeting. Manson was showing

1521
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,000
up there. They were all practicing blood rituals and sex magic.

1522
01:34:36,359 --> 01:34:39,279
And it's very interesting because it goes to show why

1523
01:34:39,319 --> 01:34:43,279
there was allegedly footage that the LAPD discovered at the

1524
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:48,319
Roman Polanski house when Sharon Tate was killed that showed

1525
01:34:48,399 --> 01:34:52,039
like footage of her being sadistically abused and tortured in

1526
01:34:52,079 --> 01:34:56,079
a sort of like oragy rape, right, and Roman Polanski

1527
01:34:56,199 --> 01:35:00,640
was allegedly filming it, which is just you know, it's

1528
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:05,359
very interesting, especially considering their backgrounds in the occult, you know,

1529
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:10,239
and practicing some of these rituals, so you know, Rosemary's Baby, right,

1530
01:35:10,359 --> 01:35:13,840
and all these various uh uh you know, connections to

1531
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,279
to Polanski himself. I mean, I think it's it's very

1532
01:35:17,319 --> 01:35:22,239
obvious that that I think even Sharon Tate was potentially

1533
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,720
believed to have been a witch, you know, who was

1534
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,039
practicing this black magic in certain ways, so it's not

1535
01:35:28,079 --> 01:35:30,520
as if she were entirely innocent in the situation. But

1536
01:35:31,399 --> 01:35:33,800
you know, how are we to know at a certain point.

1537
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,479
You know, it's just like there's a lot that is

1538
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,760
still out there for us to find that kind of

1539
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:43,560
proves out and reinforces so much of these connections. And yeah,

1540
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:48,439
I just think that whenever you discover that RFK is

1541
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:52,920
actually at this dinner party and he's attending the dinner

1542
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,479
party with his four children and his wife, as well

1543
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,199
as Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski who are at this

1544
01:35:59,319 --> 01:36:03,600
dinner party with RFK, and in twenty four hours, within

1545
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:08,520
twenty four hours later, Bobby Kennedy's assassinated at the Ambassador Hotel.

1546
01:36:09,079 --> 01:36:13,479
And so that to me, you know, especially considering that

1547
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,840
this was the evening of the election where he won

1548
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:19,079
the California state primary. He's supposed to go back to

1549
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:24,000
the hotel where he gives this famous speech right onto Chicago,

1550
01:36:24,359 --> 01:36:28,479
is what it was called. And then just moments later,

1551
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,720
he's like ushered through in a rush, in this very

1552
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,600
sort of misdirected way on purpose, because this is what

1553
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:40,199
you do in an OP. And he's driven off course

1554
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:42,880
by his handler who has him basically, the security has

1555
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,239
him by the arm. They take him in a different

1556
01:36:45,279 --> 01:36:49,000
direction than what was necessarily planned. And essentially take him

1557
01:36:49,039 --> 01:36:52,760
through this small area into the pantry of the Ambassador

1558
01:36:53,279 --> 01:36:55,159
and that was where all of these people. It was

1559
01:36:55,359 --> 01:36:59,279
very you know, crowded and cluttered, and so there was

1560
01:36:59,319 --> 01:37:05,680
a It gave an advantage for the operate, just the

1561
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:08,680
sort of tactics being utilized on the ground in the operation,

1562
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,760
because it was sort of like again tactic of misdirection, right,

1563
01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:16,520
And so I just thought it was interesting they quickly

1564
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:20,199
bring him into the pantry and then essentially Sirhan had

1565
01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:22,479
already been placed into the trance because he has a

1566
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:28,640
terrible essentially induced amnesia that he experiences prior to the

1567
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,760
incident in the pantry, and all of it was centered

1568
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:37,760
around he kept saying coffee, right. He basically went into

1569
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:42,319
the Ambassador sort of where the pantry was located, was

1570
01:37:42,399 --> 01:37:44,199
there were a couple of spots you could sit down,

1571
01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:47,800
have a coffee or something, and he allegedly followed a

1572
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,560
girl in a polka dot dress into the pantry where

1573
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,680
he had coffee. And all he could say when he

1574
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,960
was in a trance is coffee, coffee, coffee. It's like

1575
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:01,399
the last thing he could remember. And then essentially they

1576
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,920
walk him through it as well though, and it's very

1577
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:08,359
insane because he starts talking about when he's under hypnosis,

1578
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,960
the first things he starts to write on the paper.

1579
01:38:11,399 --> 01:38:15,760
And I told this it's insane because there's doctor Bernard

1580
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,600
Diamond as an expert in psychology, and he essentially he's

1581
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,000
the one who puts Sir Han into a hypnotic trance

1582
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,800
in order to have him relive the events under hypnosis.

1583
01:38:26,319 --> 01:38:29,439
And they say who is with you when you shot him?

1584
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:33,159
Right and and he says girl, the girl, the girl,

1585
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:39,840
And then they essentially start asking him about his recollection

1586
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,199
of being choked by someone on a table in the

1587
01:38:42,199 --> 01:38:44,680
pantry is the only thing he can remember at all.

1588
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,279
So that's essentially him coming out of his program. And

1589
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:54,640
so is this apparently after he's he's grabbed and put

1590
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:58,479
into a headlock and he's still trying to pump out

1591
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,800
imaginary bullets in the blank. It's just crazy to me.

1592
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:06,119
But he couldn't recall shooting him. He couldn't even remember

1593
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:08,319
writing anything about wanting to kill him. And there's a

1594
01:39:08,359 --> 01:39:12,560
book that was discovered allegedly his personal journal, and he

1595
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,479
was just writing over and over, RFK must die, r

1596
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,920
FK must die. And it was just like very strange,

1597
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,119
But it seemed like while he was in his hypnotic trance,

1598
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:26,119
he was just further reinforcing the programming to a certain

1599
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:30,520
extent to where that's effectively what it seemed as if

1600
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,920
what you know, had been happening, because he was described

1601
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,079
as seeing Tart going into a hypnotic trance and seeing

1602
01:39:38,119 --> 01:39:40,399
targets in front of his eyes, right, and so he

1603
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:45,119
thought he was at the shooting range. Which, yeah, if

1604
01:39:45,119 --> 01:39:48,479
you've been hypnotized and then you've been forced to just

1605
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,840
continually shoot at a shooting range based on certain you know,

1606
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,880
physical triggers, psychological triggers that have been set up through

1607
01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:00,079
the hypnotization process, it makes a lot of sense to me.

1608
01:40:00,359 --> 01:40:02,319
Speaker 1: Well, you're going to autopilot. I mean, I'm sure all

1609
01:40:02,319 --> 01:40:06,760
of us can you know, sympathize with some of us

1610
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,000
sleepwalk Like we you know, have a dream that we're

1611
01:40:09,079 --> 01:40:12,840
going to the bathroom and then we're gonna go take

1612
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,600
a pee and we wake up and we're standing in

1613
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,159
the bathroom and we're peeing all over ourselves, you know.

1614
01:40:20,319 --> 01:40:22,439
Or I mean, if you're not a sleepwalker, I mean,

1615
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,880
I'm sure many men can buse you for being honest.

1616
01:40:25,199 --> 01:40:27,119
We've had a dream that we're going to the bathroom

1617
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:29,359
and we go to pee, and all of a sudden,

1618
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,960
we just feel warmness all over our lap and we

1619
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,840
wake up in bed. Oh shit, you know what I mean.

1620
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,840
So if you're putting the hypnotic state and you're shown that, yeah,

1621
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,279
I mean, your body kind of goes into autopilot. So

1622
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,760
you have a dream that you're in the bathroom you're

1623
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,199
going to pee. If you got to know a dream

1624
01:40:45,239 --> 01:40:46,840
that you're at the shooting range with a gun you hand,

1625
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:48,319
you're gonna pull the trigger.

1626
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And it is crazy too because there

1627
01:40:53,079 --> 01:40:58,399
was basically Sir Hans lawyers they still argue as recently

1628
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,079
as like twenty twelve. I think it was even later

1629
01:41:01,159 --> 01:41:04,880
than that though they made statements sense. But but yeah,

1630
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:09,600
they were talking about how Sir Sir Han was definitely

1631
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:13,920
they believe uh and legal papers exist as well that

1632
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,840
that he was essentially manipulated by a seductive girl in

1633
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,800
a mind control plot to shoot RFK and his bullets

1634
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,960
did not kill the presidential candidate. And further, there were

1635
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:30,399
documents provided by the attorneys that apparently there were you know,

1636
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,239
extensive there was extensive coverage on this but it didn't

1637
01:41:33,279 --> 01:41:37,000
really make the public spotlight in any real way. And

1638
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,039
and but still you have these interviews with sir Han

1639
01:41:40,119 --> 01:41:43,520
during the past, you know, as far as at there

1640
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:47,239
throughout like the entire process of his of his uh

1641
01:41:47,319 --> 01:41:51,720
you know, just as far as being apprehended in custody

1642
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:56,079
and serving out his conviction. He has definitely had multiple

1643
01:41:56,159 --> 01:42:01,560
scientists and individual hypnotists and and various UH psychological experts

1644
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,680
who have tried to come and conduct like interviews with

1645
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,840
him and try and see where he truly is psychologically

1646
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:11,560
and if he were suggested like as suggestible as it

1647
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:16,640
was allegedly claimed during the original trial for the expert

1648
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,840
hypnotists who were involved in that original trial. And so

1649
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,880
but what is very strange is that of course he's

1650
01:42:24,199 --> 01:42:29,000
placed again under hypnosis during these interviews years later. And

1651
01:42:29,079 --> 01:42:31,960
this is you know, within the past ten years, this

1652
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,479
has happened with sir Han. And there's still even r

1653
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:39,039
FK Jr. Came forward and claimed that he went and

1654
01:42:39,079 --> 01:42:41,520
met with sir Han and he claims he's innocent and

1655
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:45,439
didn't kill his father. And you knows, as much as

1656
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:49,399
I think RFK Junior is definitely compromised at some at

1657
01:42:49,399 --> 01:42:52,479
some level by the Epstein network just because of like

1658
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,359
you look at the connection to you know, first of all,

1659
01:42:56,359 --> 01:43:00,279
he's very much pictured with Epstein, you know, and beyond that,

1660
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:07,920
he's his wife. Right. She basically discovers his perverted sex

1661
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,359
diary and then commits suicide. She hangs herself, which that

1662
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,159
was one of his ex wives, right. And it's very

1663
01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:18,600
strange the circumstances involved with that, because it seems as if,

1664
01:43:19,079 --> 01:43:21,760
you know, I'm not sure if there was foul play

1665
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,760
or what, but it does seem as if there's some

1666
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:28,079
sort of human compromise involved with RFK Junior. But I

1667
01:43:28,119 --> 01:43:32,319
will say that some of his work I very much appreciated,

1668
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,600
and you know, I even bought his book on Fauci Write,

1669
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:40,119
and I really honestly there's major portions of that book

1670
01:43:40,119 --> 01:43:44,359
that are extremely valuable in terms of just like these

1671
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:50,560
disturbing scientific experiments that Fauci was conducting utilizing orphans and

1672
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:56,319
children as just experimental test subjects, and then mass graves

1673
01:43:56,359 --> 01:44:00,640
of these children discovered, you know, through these very state

1674
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:05,000
subsidized and yeah, it's very disturbing. And the Catholic clergy,

1675
01:44:05,039 --> 01:44:07,840
I believe, is it also implicated and being involved in

1676
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:12,079
some of this as well, which makes sense because Kathy O'Brien,

1677
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:16,119
the alleged MK Ultra Project monarch victim that came forward

1678
01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:19,560
many years ago, she said that she basically married her

1679
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,399
her therapist, who she said, help like bring her back

1680
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,800
and recover her memories of her abuse. And if you

1681
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,720
know about like the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, they're basically

1682
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:34,439
they have a scientific advisory board that's filled, it's oversaturated

1683
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,640
with mind control operatives like doctor Lewis Jolly and West

1684
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,439
is one of the key operatives, doctor Martin t Orren

1685
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:45,159
another one. And the basically the FMSF, the False Memory

1686
01:44:45,159 --> 01:44:51,600
Syndrome Foundation was created by a pedophile who was accused

1687
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,560
of raping his daughter, you know, and and and the

1688
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,039
mom being involved as well and in the abuse and

1689
01:44:58,079 --> 01:45:01,319
at least, you know, somewhat in support of it. And

1690
01:45:01,399 --> 01:45:05,239
so then they create a foundation. Imagine that right like

1691
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:09,920
being even if you were falsely accused by by you know,

1692
01:45:10,039 --> 01:45:13,720
your Imagine if you were falsely accused by your child

1693
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:18,479
who just has psychological issues and is manufacturing this false abuse,

1694
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,199
these false abuse allegations. I'm just trying to play like

1695
01:45:21,279 --> 01:45:24,720
Devil's advocate to imagine would you then go on and

1696
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:29,960
found an organization that attempts to go around the world

1697
01:45:30,079 --> 01:45:34,439
infiltrating criminal cases and undermining the victim witness accounts by

1698
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:39,399
children who are overwhelmingly sadistically abused by Yeah, it seems

1699
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:43,720
like it was far more of a sinister organization created

1700
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:47,640
under the guise of doing exactly that, right, attempting to

1701
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,000
go around the country insert themselves at a level where

1702
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,000
they claim their experts. Elizabeth Loftus is one of the

1703
01:45:54,079 --> 01:45:56,359
great examples of that. She goes around to make Martin

1704
01:45:56,399 --> 01:46:01,920
Preschool various different you know, criminal cases, and she's not

1705
01:46:02,039 --> 01:46:05,079
acting in good faith, right, She's just attempting to muddy

1706
01:46:05,119 --> 01:46:10,039
the waters and undermine the credibility of the victim work. Yep, exactly.

1707
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:14,880
And and so that in itself I think proves proves

1708
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:19,760
out over time that that organization was directly uh you

1709
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,760
know created one to so clouds of doubt at least

1710
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,640
cast clouds of doubts surrounding many of these mind control

1711
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,840
operations I believe that have been conducted as well under

1712
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:36,479
the guise of you know, various uh just religious cult organizations.

1713
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:41,600
I mean, I always use the example of Congressman Congressman

1714
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,920
le O'Ryan's aid William Holsinger, who claims that Jonestown was

1715
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,920
one of those religious cults that would that sprouted up

1716
01:46:48,239 --> 01:46:51,800
directly after the Church Committee hearings when they allegedly were

1717
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:55,920
providing public transparency in regard to the mind control operations

1718
01:46:55,920 --> 01:47:00,600
that they were conducting. But in reality, Richard Helm himself,

1719
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:03,239
who was the director of the CIA at the time

1720
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,720
when all of this alleged transparency in public you know,

1721
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,760
disclosure was allegedly taking place during the Church Committee hearings

1722
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:17,399
in the early seventies, he ordered the destruction of thousands

1723
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,640
of MK Ultra documents and various other you know, top

1724
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:26,560
secret documents of these clandestine operations. So, knowing how damning

1725
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:30,720
and condemning the available evidence has been over the the

1726
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:34,439
what was publicly disclosed during the the Church Committee hearings

1727
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:39,239
in regard to MK Ultra, imagine what we really don't

1728
01:47:39,319 --> 01:47:43,039
know that was actually that will never basically probably find

1729
01:47:43,079 --> 01:47:46,239
out in terms of the actual documentation because they just

1730
01:47:46,359 --> 01:47:47,920
they destroyed it all. You know.

1731
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know the tip of the Asberg, and the

1732
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:56,119
tip is very disturbing, So one can imagine.

1733
01:47:54,399 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 2: Exactly and so for me, I just think that it's

1734
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:03,680
it's it's far more plausible, you know that, especially when

1735
01:48:04,319 --> 01:48:07,920
you know I'm just talking about you know, Sirhan to

1736
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,840
make the final note on that point there, because I

1737
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:13,640
think it's interesting at the very least, what this this

1738
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:18,880
document claims is that you know, allegedly it was the

1739
01:48:19,079 --> 01:48:21,720
woman in the polka dot dress serving as the controller

1740
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:24,399
who led sir Han to fire a gun in the pantry,

1741
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,359
and it suggests a second person shot and killed Kennedy

1742
01:48:28,359 --> 01:48:30,920
while using sir Han as a diversion. So it's exactly

1743
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:34,640
what I sort of described earlier and the first time

1744
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:39,720
he was under hypnosis. On Q, he says, this is

1745
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:43,479
so crazy on Q from the girl, he went into

1746
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,119
quote range mode, believing he was at a firing range

1747
01:48:47,159 --> 01:48:49,640
and seeing circles with targets in front of his eyes.

1748
01:48:50,199 --> 01:48:52,359
He says, quote, I thought that I was at the

1749
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,159
range more than I was actually shooting at any person,

1750
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,439
let alone Bobby Kennedy. Sir Han was also quoted saying

1751
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,640
during interviews with Daniel Brown that Harvard professor who was

1752
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:07,560
a specialist in trauma, memory and hypnosis, and he had

1753
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:11,399
he did like a whole session where he had like

1754
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:16,520
a theatrical performance sort of set up where he had

1755
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:21,640
hypnotized this individual and planted instructions in his mind to

1756
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,199
where he would be willing to once given the queue,

1757
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:28,199
he would, unbeknownst to him, enter be triggered into the trance,

1758
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:33,640
pull out a briefcase underneath his seat within the theater itself,

1759
01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:37,199
open it up, grab a gun, and stand up and

1760
01:49:37,279 --> 01:49:40,920
in the most calm and peaceful of ways, just start

1761
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:45,800
opening fire at the individuals on stage. And he claimed

1762
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,720
that he could successfully do this to an individual unbeknownst

1763
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:54,439
to them, and so he held an experiment, and after

1764
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:58,920
he successfully walked through this this, you know, as far

1765
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,720
as like a triggering the individual and the theater who

1766
01:50:03,239 --> 01:50:05,840
he had told everyone at the beginning of the performance,

1767
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:10,319
something will happen during the course of the performance. It

1768
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:14,319
just remain calm and I need you all to understand

1769
01:50:14,319 --> 01:50:17,840
that you're not in danger, that sort of thing, right, So,

1770
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,720
then this individual in the crowd is triggered throughout the

1771
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,359
course of the performance and he goes through with it.

1772
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,520
He pulls out the gun with the blanks and he

1773
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:30,760
starts firing, you know, at the individuals on stage. Then

1774
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:34,199
he calmly puts the gun back into the briefcase, puts

1775
01:50:34,199 --> 01:50:36,319
it back under the seat, and he just goes back

1776
01:50:36,319 --> 01:50:39,720
to normal, like nothing happened. And so Dan Brown then

1777
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,279
brings him to his office like the next day or

1778
01:50:42,319 --> 01:50:47,640
where whenever it was, and he presents the video evidence

1779
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:51,520
of what he did during the performance, and he asked

1780
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,920
him going into it, hey do you remember, you know,

1781
01:50:54,079 --> 01:50:56,760
how did the performance go, like that type of thing,

1782
01:50:57,319 --> 01:51:00,359
and he explains, you know, it went off without without

1783
01:51:00,359 --> 01:51:03,560
a hitch, right, like nothing happened. He didn't remember that

1784
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:07,159
taking place. And then obviously Dan Brown presents the video

1785
01:51:07,239 --> 01:51:10,960
evidence and and he's like shocked to his core that

1786
01:51:11,079 --> 01:51:14,840
he was legitimately hypnotized. And unbeknownst to him, he was

1787
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:18,840
planted with this suggestionable you know, a set of instructions

1788
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,720
that he followed to a t and uh and with

1789
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:26,079
no memory of it. And so that was very interesting

1790
01:51:26,079 --> 01:51:31,640
because it was just kind of like a more just

1791
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:36,600
it was reinforcing what everyone because the context of why

1792
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:40,439
he went through that sort of experiment was to lead

1793
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:45,880
or lend credibility to the Sirhan Manchurian, you know, hypnotize

1794
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:48,079
the sort of alternative theory.

1795
01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 1: So Nardo DiCaprio, remember that movie Inception that that's the

1796
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,920
whole concept of that film.

1797
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, man, it's it is, it is,

1798
01:52:02,079 --> 01:52:04,399
and it gets it gets far worse than that. And

1799
01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:08,520
and I know we mentioned Waco earlier, and how I

1800
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:11,800
didn't realize there was a basically there was a connection

1801
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,600
to mind control at Waco that was far more than

1802
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:18,359
just them utilizing the sophisticated uh, you know, mind control

1803
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:23,079
methods and as as a what do they call them?

1804
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,520
There were there was this specific technology that they were

1805
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:31,079
utilizing that wasn't only just clearly the the uh psychological

1806
01:52:31,079 --> 01:52:34,640
warfare aspect of the the slaughtering the rabbits and the

1807
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,720
Buddhist chanting and things of that nature, but it was

1808
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:39,880
far more sinister than that. It was It was basically,

1809
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:43,239
uh you know, it was a part of their resonance,

1810
01:52:43,399 --> 01:52:46,680
like uh frequency resonance. I forget what what exactly the

1811
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,920
uh the advanced technique was referred to as. But but

1812
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:54,439
either way, Paul Wilcher is an investigative journalist, and he's

1813
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,640
a reporter who who was a part of uh sort

1814
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:02,359
of this congressional investigation and this judiciary committee as well.

1815
01:53:02,399 --> 01:53:07,279
That was kind of looking into the October Surprise, uh,

1816
01:53:07,399 --> 01:53:14,439
when whenever George Bussior was leveraging you know against it

1817
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:17,159
was sort of against Jimmy Carter, right in a certain way,

1818
01:53:17,199 --> 01:53:20,880
but in reality it was basically the hostage crisis that

1819
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:23,199
they were negotiating behind the scenes so they could have

1820
01:53:23,239 --> 01:53:26,159
a political victory as the October Surprise, and it would

1821
01:53:26,199 --> 01:53:30,199
it would apparently in their minds, it would push them

1822
01:53:30,279 --> 01:53:33,680
forward and in the as far as just they would

1823
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:40,159
get a sort of just public perception victory just before

1824
01:53:40,199 --> 01:53:44,359
the election that would help potentially, you know, like just

1825
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,920
give them the the uh, the sort of victory you know,

1826
01:53:48,119 --> 01:53:52,079
in terms of just beating Jimmy Carter and taking taking

1827
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:56,439
control of the presidential administration. So it was sort of

1828
01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,439
just another like covert operation where this individual who spoke

1829
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:04,880
to Paul Wilcher, uh, he basically explained that that he

1830
01:54:05,079 --> 01:54:08,039
was a covert operative who was working for the CIA,

1831
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:12,359
and that he was the pilot who who flew George

1832
01:54:13,199 --> 01:54:17,199
and these various uh uh you know, CIA operatives and

1833
01:54:17,279 --> 01:54:21,159
even like I believe it was William Colby, you know,

1834
01:54:21,199 --> 01:54:23,399
one of the directors of the CIA, and and far

1835
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:25,880
more than that, but flew them to London to have

1836
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:30,479
these negotiations with the hostage crisis and and all of this,

1837
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,560
and then he allegedly flew George was senior back and all.

1838
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:38,439
It's very strange, but still the what they claim happened

1839
01:54:39,039 --> 01:54:42,880
is that apparently and Paul Wilcher himself claims that he knows.

1840
01:54:43,479 --> 01:54:46,520
So do you know Danny Castilero and and uh, Danny

1841
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:52,079
Castilero's octopus. There's there's a recent new documentary that was

1842
01:54:52,119 --> 01:54:54,880
published not too long ago on Netflix and and it

1843
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:58,600
sort of seemed to me like a limited hanging out,

1844
01:54:59,079 --> 01:55:02,279
but it it's again it's a window into Iran contra.

1845
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,359
And Danny Casileerro was very much on the case and

1846
01:55:05,399 --> 01:55:10,880
he followed this investigation. He was essentially like a they

1847
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:15,399
called him a a tech journalist, right because he was

1848
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:20,239
much more just his his beat was essentially Silicon Valley

1849
01:55:20,279 --> 01:55:23,479
and and the rising tech industry at the time, and

1850
01:55:23,479 --> 01:55:25,600
and he was very much just reporting on a lot

1851
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:29,880
of the different tech you know, uh, just the various

1852
01:55:30,439 --> 01:55:32,920
companies that were kind of forming and creating, attempting to

1853
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,800
create monopolies and move forward in this way. So he

1854
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:40,359
was just he was reporting on these various system softwares

1855
01:55:40,399 --> 01:55:43,239
that were being you know, manufactured and and things of

1856
01:55:43,239 --> 01:55:46,560
that nature. And he found out about this scandal that

1857
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,600
had to do with the promised software, right, and it

1858
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:54,960
was essentially it was this state subsidized case management software.

1859
01:55:55,359 --> 01:55:57,680
But it was far more sinister than that. It was

1860
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:01,439
actually this it was a system software that was then

1861
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:06,920
basically it was essentially in the most underhanded way, the

1862
01:56:08,119 --> 01:56:13,199
government in place gained control of the software and then

1863
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:19,399
tweaked it, you know, like illegally provided a back door

1864
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:24,039
into this software. On the Cabazon Indian Reservation allegedly is

1865
01:56:24,039 --> 01:56:27,760
where this happened, and so this gave them an end

1866
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:31,960
around back then then they provided this system management software

1867
01:56:32,039 --> 01:56:36,680
case management software. Not only was it then implemented you know,

1868
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,279
all over the country in the US, it was then

1869
01:56:39,359 --> 01:56:43,720
sold to international governments, right. And so basically what it

1870
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:48,359
became was this end around for intelligence operatives and the

1871
01:56:48,399 --> 01:56:54,039
intelligence apparatus to gain access, yes to a legitimate built

1872
01:56:54,079 --> 01:56:59,960
in back door that would be implemented voluntarily by the government.

1873
01:57:00,079 --> 01:57:03,279
And so that it had been sold to in bad

1874
01:57:03,359 --> 01:57:07,520
faith for that purpose specifically. And so it was very

1875
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:10,720
interesting when you when you look into a lot, there's

1876
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:12,520
a lot of people that went missing and end up

1877
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:16,840
dead in regard to that investigation, and Danny Casilearrell is

1878
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one of them. And he essentially was being tipped off

1879
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,640
by all these these various individuals who were clandestine operatives

1880
01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:26,279
and then also I think he was lured into position

1881
01:57:26,319 --> 01:57:29,560
and effectively they suicided him when he was about to

1882
01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:33,520
what he thought he was going to get. What he

1883
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,920
claimed was he would be delivered the head of the

1884
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,640
octopus on a platter. That was where he was heading.

1885
01:57:39,039 --> 01:57:41,520
And it was basically all to do with Iran Contra

1886
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:45,199
and the drug smuggling operations that were being conducted to

1887
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:51,199
provide financial, you know, black budget funds for you know,

1888
01:57:51,279 --> 01:57:57,159
these various covert operations that were not being congressionally approved clearly,

1889
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,840
and they wanted to keep it outside of the public

1890
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:05,119
record obviously, and that was another intention of utilizing I

1891
01:58:05,159 --> 01:58:08,279
Ran Contra for that reason. But it turns out there's

1892
01:58:08,359 --> 01:58:12,640
far more to Iran Contra than just drug smuggling and

1893
01:58:13,079 --> 01:58:17,479
arms trafficking, because I think they were dealing in uh

1894
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:19,159
what they claimed there were.

1895
01:58:19,079 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: That's how I generated the funds exactly.

1896
01:58:22,279 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 2: They claimed there were esoteric weapons that they were testing

1897
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,880
on the Cabazon Indian Reservation in California, and that they

1898
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,960
were essentially using the Indians as slave labor at the time,

1899
01:58:33,479 --> 01:58:36,920
and uh and that it was a major covert operation

1900
01:58:37,039 --> 01:58:40,279
where they were flying in illegal Mexican immigrants to cook

1901
01:58:40,279 --> 01:58:43,800
methamphetamine on the reservation and uh, and it was far

1902
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:47,199
more than just that. Uh there you know, single engine

1903
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,399
planes just flying in. It was like the Berry Seal

1904
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:55,000
mina Arkansas connection, but in California it was a it

1905
01:58:55,039 --> 01:58:59,680
was a nationwide uh you know, and honestly it crossed

1906
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:03,560
internet national borders, but it was a nationwide drug trafficking

1907
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:08,840
operation and it was far more. I think people don't

1908
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:12,039
realize the domestic hubs in place that that have a

1909
01:59:12,159 --> 01:59:17,520
major intelligence footprint involved in facilitating the distribution throughout the country.

1910
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,920
And that's another reason why you have so many of

1911
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:24,399
these greenlit operations and in various places that seem to

1912
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:26,399
resurface so often.

1913
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:31,079
Speaker 1: Interrupt and family dollar. You got one on every colner.

1914
01:59:31,079 --> 01:59:33,439
I wouldn't be surprised if they're involved.

1915
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:41,159
Speaker 2: Right, honestly, right, But but honestly, man, it's very crazy

1916
01:59:41,199 --> 01:59:43,760
what this guy had to say. Paul Wilcher, the investigator,

1917
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:47,239
he said he knew as much as Danny Castilero, because

1918
01:59:47,359 --> 01:59:52,680
Danny Castillo was then murdered, obviously for for prying into this.

1919
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:58,159
This sort of clandestine domestic, well not domestic, but international octopus,

1920
01:59:58,319 --> 02:00:02,039
its tentacles reach into the dark because clandestine corners of intelligence,

1921
02:00:02,159 --> 02:00:07,439
like he was realizing that this, I believe that this

1922
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:11,479
is far smaller as far as the usual suspects involved.

1923
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:16,000
It's a small it's a small community that can kind

1924
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:19,560
of rely on each other to coexist and facilitate these operations.

1925
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:22,319
And if you're ever overexposed, they will hang you out

1926
02:00:22,359 --> 02:00:25,159
to dry. And that's just the bottom line. And you

1927
02:00:25,199 --> 02:00:27,199
know that going in as a spook, you're supposed to

1928
02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:30,039
be a ghost, right, You're not supposed to leave a footprint,

1929
02:00:30,279 --> 02:00:32,720
And if you leave a traceable footprint, you will be

1930
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,760
hung and crucified and burned at the stake for public

1931
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:40,159
perception purposes, and therefore they will claim you acted alone

1932
02:00:40,279 --> 02:00:42,640
the sole perpetrator. Oh my gosh, it would never be

1933
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:43,479
a larger network.

1934
02:00:45,079 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, when in reality, high reward, but there's high risk.

1935
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,000
And they tell you that upfront. Yeah, you can make millions,

1936
02:00:52,119 --> 02:00:55,119
billions of dollars and have everything you ever wanted man.

1937
02:00:55,159 --> 02:00:56,880
But if you screw up, you dead? What do you think?

1938
02:00:56,960 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?

1939
02:00:57,840 --> 02:00:58,479
Speaker 1: You want the job?

1940
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:02,319
Speaker 2: Crazy? Right? Exactly? I mean there's a but there's a

1941
02:01:02,319 --> 02:01:06,000
flight manifest that that this covert operative provided to Paul Wilcher.

1942
02:01:06,079 --> 02:01:09,920
And and it's just mind boggling to me that none

1943
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:14,319
of this His name was Gunter Russbacher, the covert operative

1944
02:01:14,399 --> 02:01:17,199
that was you know, what had happened. He had been exposed.

1945
02:01:17,479 --> 02:01:22,399
He was concerned about obviously being murdered. He claimed that

1946
02:01:23,239 --> 02:01:28,159
his his other intelligence, obviously members of intelligence that he

1947
02:01:28,239 --> 02:01:32,039
was working alongside of within these covert operations, were coming

1948
02:01:32,119 --> 02:01:34,880
up dead. And he was very concerned because he had

1949
02:01:35,039 --> 02:01:38,239
taken a criminal charge and was trying to he was

1950
02:01:38,479 --> 02:01:40,720
he was going to play along and remain quiet and

1951
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:44,399
silent until other members of the organization were coming up dead,

1952
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:46,640
and then he wanted to go on the record and

1953
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:49,239
at the very least attempt to provide himself with some

1954
02:01:49,279 --> 02:01:54,000
sort of protection by revealing his role. And and so

1955
02:01:54,079 --> 02:01:57,119
he hits up Paul Wilcher, who again he's a part

1956
02:01:57,119 --> 02:02:01,359
of the like this judiciary committee, like this strange investigative

1957
02:02:01,399 --> 02:02:05,319
committee that was formed to investigate the October Surprise, which

1958
02:02:05,359 --> 02:02:09,399
was all about the hostage crisis and UH with Iran, right,

1959
02:02:09,479 --> 02:02:13,079
which is just it's crazy because that's been relived over time,

1960
02:02:13,119 --> 02:02:16,439
even recently, right as far as Iranian hostages and you

1961
02:02:16,479 --> 02:02:19,119
know it's and and UH or American hostages in Iran

1962
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:23,600
and UH and in the current administration. It's just very

1963
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:28,680
interesting how many of these methods are are replayed because

1964
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,119
I think it they were very effective to begin with.

1965
02:02:31,279 --> 02:02:35,399
But but anyway, so the point being here is that

1966
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,880
this Paul Wilcher, he says, you know, I know just

1967
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:42,159
as much if not more than Danny Casilero, and and

1968
02:02:42,199 --> 02:02:46,600
then he's effectively found dead. It's it's crazy because his

1969
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:50,479
body's moved, he's placed, he's brought to his own apartment

1970
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:54,279
and placed onto the toilet, uh and and essentially like

1971
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:59,079
none of the as far as it was absolutely ridiculous

1972
02:02:59,079 --> 02:03:01,600
to claim this was a suicide because clearly the body

1973
02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:04,760
had been moved from the original place of death, which

1974
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:08,640
was another aspect of his death and the investigation into

1975
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:11,680
his death. But again at all the convenient timing of it,

1976
02:03:12,479 --> 02:03:16,359
because he pens this this report called the Wilchair Report,

1977
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:18,640
and he sends it to the current at the time,

1978
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:22,800
the Attorney General Janet Reno, who presided over the Waco

1979
02:03:23,079 --> 02:03:27,399
siege and and helped cover up the Oklahoma City bombing obviously,

1980
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:31,600
and uh and and the sheep dipped operatives that were

1981
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:36,600
conducting that ridiculous operation, right, Like that was another It

1982
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:40,640
was Gunter Strassmeyer, right, who was he He was like

1983
02:03:41,399 --> 02:03:46,239
entirely brought over because he had an extreme background, just

1984
02:03:46,279 --> 02:03:51,000
a very high level background and intelligence operations, had fought

1985
02:03:51,039 --> 02:03:54,800
on a he had legitimately gone and trained on a

1986
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:58,279
kablitz in Israel like and and it's very strange his

1987
02:03:58,359 --> 02:04:02,720
connections to German intelligence and then he's brought over. His

1988
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:06,720
father was an elite in the German government and and

1989
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:09,359
so yeah, he was brought over by al Gore, right,

1990
02:04:09,399 --> 02:04:12,600
who's who's the vice president at the time. And he's

1991
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:17,039
brought over directly on request by Al Gore to help

1992
02:04:17,399 --> 02:04:22,319
facilitate this this domestic operation that would be greenlit in

1993
02:04:22,359 --> 02:04:25,640
Oklahoma City, which happened to be the Alfred Alfred P.

1994
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:28,760
Merle Building, which you know that federal building. Obviously it

1995
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:31,439
had a had a nursery in there where a bunch

1996
02:04:31,479 --> 02:04:35,920
of children were murdered and and and some of the

1997
02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:39,079
witnesses claim to have seen undetonated charges that had been

1998
02:04:39,119 --> 02:04:42,279
placed on on key key points of the building, including

1999
02:04:42,359 --> 02:04:46,399
underneath the daycare and and so. But all these members

2000
02:04:46,399 --> 02:04:48,600
of the ATF are tipped off prior to it all,

2001
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:50,960
you know. It's just a fascinating thing. But what they

2002
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,520
had claimed was being housed. And I've never yet been

2003
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:56,560
able to confirm this for a fact, but I've heard

2004
02:04:56,640 --> 02:05:02,960
so many different allegations claiming that the the whitewater investigation

2005
02:05:03,159 --> 02:05:05,000
was being conducted at the time. I believe it was

2006
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:09,000
the name of it, and and it was investigating the Clintons. Yeah,

2007
02:05:09,119 --> 02:05:11,359
it was. It was all like this, This sort of

2008
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:15,319
Senate subcommittee had been formed and they were investigating the

2009
02:05:15,359 --> 02:05:20,399
Clintons of footprint within ran Contra as he was governor

2010
02:05:20,439 --> 02:05:23,119
in Arkansas, and so a lot of that was being

2011
02:05:23,239 --> 02:05:26,640
uh investigated, records were being kept, and they were going

2012
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:31,520
to have a legitimate trial, according to many different individuals

2013
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:33,680
who were involved at the time. And it turns out

2014
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:37,920
that all the records of that investigation had just been

2015
02:05:38,039 --> 02:05:42,479
moved to the Alpha P. Merle Building, that federal building,

2016
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:46,319
and so they were claiming that and all the undebtonated charges.

2017
02:05:46,399 --> 02:05:48,920
It didn't go off as planned. They wanted to bring

2018
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:51,720
that the Alpha P Murle building to the ground, you know,

2019
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:55,239
and and and essentially later on it would be entirely

2020
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:59,760
destroyed and and you know, buried right like we never

2021
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:02,760
got to Actually, they they did that as fast as

2022
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:05,800
possible to try and cover up any sort of evidence

2023
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:09,359
that could be discovered at the site itself, you know,

2024
02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:12,479
I mean they they allegedly they just like nine to eleven,

2025
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:15,800
they had crews just coming in overnight, just taking out

2026
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:20,119
every single last piece of rubble, and and yeah, it

2027
02:06:20,279 --> 02:06:22,479
just it goes to show they didn't want any real

2028
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:26,279
rigorous investigation to take place. Same thing happened with Sandy Hook.

2029
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:30,239
They they what happened to that The structure of that building,

2030
02:06:30,439 --> 02:06:34,039
it was entirely destroyed, you know, into its own footprint

2031
02:06:34,039 --> 02:06:36,840
in a way, right and and uh and and therefore

2032
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:40,640
we couldn't have any resolution to to uh was this

2033
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:43,319
an active elementary school? How long prior to the event

2034
02:06:43,359 --> 02:06:47,159
taking place? You know? Why was there no parking placards

2035
02:06:47,199 --> 02:06:49,000
in the in the parking lot. Why you know, like

2036
02:06:49,039 --> 02:06:51,399
every single aspect of it seemed like it was staged.

2037
02:06:51,439 --> 02:06:54,760
Why was there. Uh, you know, but hey, I'm just

2038
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,600
saying that too much of it does fit a pattern

2039
02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:02,000
recognition playbook. But with David care what the Paul Wilch

2040
02:07:02,119 --> 02:07:05,600
report claims about him, And this again was penned and

2041
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:09,399
sent to Janet Reno, and she later on would claim

2042
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:13,399
during one of her re election campaigns, she would threaten

2043
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:17,399
the administration and she would say, if if I don't

2044
02:07:17,439 --> 02:07:21,039
get my reelection, then I'll blow the lid off of

2045
02:07:21,039 --> 02:07:23,720
what really happened at Waco, which I found to be

2046
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:27,239
a very interesting threat, you know, and especially after this

2047
02:07:29,319 --> 02:07:34,199
because apparently David Koresh, according to Paul Wilcher's report, had

2048
02:07:34,239 --> 02:07:38,760
an extensive CIA background and was a sleeper who had

2049
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:43,560
been subjected to extensive CIA mind control training and programming. Now,

2050
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:47,279
apparently Waco was a major center for such CIA mind

2051
02:07:47,279 --> 02:07:52,359
control experimentation and even goes back to they say prior

2052
02:07:52,399 --> 02:07:55,680
to World War two or just after World War two.

2053
02:07:56,039 --> 02:07:59,960
It became a strategic hub for some of these experimentation operations.

2054
02:08:00,119 --> 02:08:05,079
So it actually Mount Carmel went back long before the

2055
02:08:05,119 --> 02:08:08,239
branch Davidians, you know, gained control of a part of

2056
02:08:08,239 --> 02:08:11,079
the property, and that this was another one of the

2057
02:08:11,439 --> 02:08:14,800
sort of domestic operation hubs that intelligence had been utilizing,

2058
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:18,119
you know, since the war and for a lot of

2059
02:08:18,119 --> 02:08:24,039
the behavioral modification research applications. And apparently they say Koresh

2060
02:08:24,119 --> 02:08:27,079
was a sleeper and that Waco is this major center

2061
02:08:27,119 --> 02:08:30,319
for the mind control experimentation, but also much of this

2062
02:08:30,439 --> 02:08:34,680
activity occurred at the CIA's Leadership Management Institute, what was

2063
02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:42,119
called the LMI in Waco, and it named Salt Lake City, Utah, Provo, Utah, Logan, Utah, Boise, Idaho,

2064
02:08:42,159 --> 02:08:46,239
and San Francisco, California as other locations as well as

2065
02:08:47,239 --> 02:08:50,479
you know, in terms of the Idaho context in Utah.

2066
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:54,119
These are locations that clearly involved like let's say, the

2067
02:08:54,119 --> 02:08:57,960
Ted Bondi case is a great example, you know, and

2068
02:08:58,119 --> 02:09:03,239
so to me, it just goes on to expose these

2069
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:07,319
similar CIA sponsored colts, you know, that implicate the Delta

2070
02:09:07,359 --> 02:09:10,840
Force and being involved, especially in Mount Carmel during the

2071
02:09:12,159 --> 02:09:17,159
assault right on April nineteenth, the final Fiery Conclusion, and

2072
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:22,359
that basically these Delta Force operatives were sent in to

2073
02:09:22,479 --> 02:09:25,880
kill David Koresh and six other sleepers within the Davidians

2074
02:09:26,079 --> 02:09:30,359
before setting the fires that burned down Mount Carmel. That

2075
02:09:30,439 --> 02:09:34,840
they were given an antidote to the apparently counteract the

2076
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:38,439
nerve agent and the nerve tosin that had been sprayed

2077
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:43,359
into the property itself at Mount Carmel to essentially leave

2078
02:09:43,359 --> 02:09:46,960
them paralyzed and unable to you know, flee or fight

2079
02:09:47,039 --> 02:09:50,880
back or at any real level. And then the Delta

2080
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:54,960
Force were sent in and they committed the final executions

2081
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:58,800
on the specific priority targets, and then they just set

2082
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:01,319
the fires to the compound. And that makes all the

2083
02:10:01,359 --> 02:10:04,439
sense in the world to me, especially considering why there

2084
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:11,800
was such a uh just there were international intelligence operatives

2085
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:14,840
and officials who were there to like watch over what

2086
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:19,279
looked as if it was just another domestic experimentation that

2087
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:22,680
they were trying to see what would happen right with

2088
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:25,560
this sort of controlled test group, you know, in this

2089
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:30,640
specific environment, under these circumstances, How could how would this

2090
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:35,920
legitimately you know, what would be the the interesting results

2091
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:39,399
and consequences of of a sort of you know, it's

2092
02:10:39,399 --> 02:10:42,479
almost like jonestown, right. You have you have a population

2093
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,600
under a certain set of set of circumstances that you're

2094
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:49,560
deliberately trying to socially engineer and control aspects of their minds.

2095
02:10:50,039 --> 02:10:51,119
It's it's another.

2096
02:10:52,359 --> 02:10:52,880
Speaker 1: Experiment.

2097
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's a real experiment on the ground in

2098
02:10:56,640 --> 02:11:00,199
real time with uh, you know, human beings as the

2099
02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:03,760
test subjects, unbeknownst to them, many of them, I think,

2100
02:11:04,159 --> 02:11:06,640
And that is why it's only six of the the

2101
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:11,760
sort of operatives on you know, the that are sort

2102
02:11:11,800 --> 02:11:16,840
of in Koresh's inner circle in a way. Right, But yeah, anyway,

2103
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:19,640
it's to me, that's fascinating, brother, you know what I mean,

2104
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:25,920
it's just mind blowing how much well, yeah, and people

2105
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:30,479
are unaware of the origin of Project Monarch as well,

2106
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:34,720
and how much like you know it was. It was

2107
02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:38,319
John DeCamp who wrote the Franklin cover up, right, and

2108
02:11:38,399 --> 02:11:42,640
he he explained that the Monarch project was essentially you know,

2109
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:48,000
it was it was far more you know, relevant than

2110
02:11:48,119 --> 02:11:50,720
people are aware of in terms of you know, this

2111
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:55,199
sort of exploiting this traumatic abuse and and he says

2112
02:11:55,239 --> 02:11:58,439
that the basic idea was to use the altars of

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people suffering from d i D for specific military and

2114
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:09,000
intelligence purposes. But alternative personalities are sort of mainly formed

2115
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at this relatively young age and only under the most

2116
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extreme stress, so they essentially, you know, a lot of

2117
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this was disturbingly you know, kind of pursued under the

2118
02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:30,119
guise of various concentration camp experiments during the SS regime, obviously,

2119
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and it's very interesting. But this is what John DeCamp

2120
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has to say about the origin of Project Monarch and

2121
02:12:36,039 --> 02:12:38,960
how basically it was Michael Aquino who was one of

2122
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:43,000
the key operatives who helped run the project. But he says,

2123
02:12:43,039 --> 02:12:46,159
an account of the origin of the Monarch project has

2124
02:12:46,199 --> 02:12:49,760
been compiled by those who have been debriefing multiple personality

2125
02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:54,640
disorder child victims or d ID and Nazi experimentation in

2126
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:57,319
World War Two, concentration camps were said to have gone

2127
02:12:57,359 --> 02:13:01,880
beyond simply insane physical tortures. They brainwashed people for military

2128
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and strategic purposes. He goes on to say that after

2129
02:13:05,600 --> 02:13:09,760
the war, Alan Dolis and other Western intelligence people bought

2130
02:13:10,039 --> 02:13:12,880
they brought Nazi doctors out for use in the US,

2131
02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:18,560
and they created a teenage concentration camp, and apparently there

2132
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:22,359
was an inmate named Greenbaum. Doctor green is later what

2133
02:13:22,439 --> 02:13:26,079
he would be referenced as who had participated to allegedly

2134
02:13:26,119 --> 02:13:29,640
save himself and would be brought to the US through

2135
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:33,479
Operation paper Clip as well, and so he becomes a

2136
02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:40,199
high level behavioral modification operative and brainwasher, and is widely

2137
02:13:40,279 --> 02:13:46,159
represented in brainwashing programs with allegedly a distinctive kabalistic magic theme.

2138
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:50,760
According to John DeCamp, which definitely caught my eye, and

2139
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:53,199
he says the killers in the Nazi camps were themselves

2140
02:13:53,239 --> 02:13:57,920
trained and organized by psychiatrists and eugenesis operating from the

2141
02:13:57,960 --> 02:14:02,199
T four Bureau. These psychiatrists had long been the pets

2142
02:14:02,199 --> 02:14:06,760
of white supremacists, British and American financier networks. At least

2143
02:14:06,760 --> 02:14:09,640
some of these Nazi doctors were spirited out of Germany

2144
02:14:09,720 --> 02:14:13,760
under the supervision of for Bank of England Governor Montague

2145
02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:18,560
Norman and Tavistock Institute director John Reese on behalf of

2146
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:24,399
the British government. He says Norman personally an insane theosophist

2147
02:14:25,279 --> 02:14:27,920
who had been chief of the pre war pro Nazi

2148
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:32,279
faction within England, and Reese organized post war propaganda and

2149
02:14:32,399 --> 02:14:38,000
continuing psychological warfare activities and created Orwellian groupings within US

2150
02:14:38,319 --> 02:14:43,159
psychiatry and mental health fields. So yeah, to me, man,

2151
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:47,039
I just think that monarch is so much more prominent

2152
02:14:47,079 --> 02:14:50,039
than people are aware of, right, And I just think

2153
02:14:50,079 --> 02:14:55,960
that it's honestly, it's something that I think people need

2154
02:14:55,960 --> 02:15:01,039
to really just have more of a well first understanding

2155
02:15:01,119 --> 02:15:06,119
of how these techniques are implemented. Right, But hey man, honestly,

2156
02:15:06,399 --> 02:15:09,119
I feel like I barely scratch the surface on any

2157
02:15:09,159 --> 02:15:10,880
of it, and I went a little skip sell on you.

2158
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:14,239
So so I honestly feel if you're if you're, if

2159
02:15:14,279 --> 02:15:16,600
you're interested and would like to we could kind of

2160
02:15:16,760 --> 02:15:21,800
like pry down into more specific examples of this and

2161
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:25,600
just like prioritize certain cases if you want to do

2162
02:15:25,640 --> 02:15:28,319
a part two or something, and we can actually reinforce

2163
02:15:28,439 --> 02:15:31,119
some of these these uh, you know what I believe

2164
02:15:31,199 --> 02:15:36,119
to be you know, very very credible, you know evidence

2165
02:15:36,239 --> 02:15:40,239
in terms of just making the case as far as

2166
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:43,239
not only you know, I think we should be able

2167
02:15:43,279 --> 02:15:45,399
to cover at least a little bit of the Franklin

2168
02:15:45,399 --> 02:15:48,399
scandal in terms of Paul Binassi because of how often

2169
02:15:48,479 --> 02:15:53,159
he real just resurfaces in many of these different scandals.

2170
02:15:53,479 --> 02:15:57,119
And then also it'll provide us with an avenue to discuss, uh,

2171
02:15:57,199 --> 02:16:00,720
the induced amnesia aspect a little bit more of monarch

2172
02:16:00,760 --> 02:16:05,680
because again it plays perfectly into like the modern context

2173
02:16:05,720 --> 02:16:08,359
of what was happening in the Epstein network, and and

2174
02:16:08,439 --> 02:16:10,119
we could pry down a little bit because I did

2175
02:16:10,159 --> 02:16:14,800
want to show to you this, this these crazy uh

2176
02:16:15,279 --> 02:16:21,039
allegations made by Jeffrey Epstein's niece, right, and and it

2177
02:16:21,039 --> 02:16:25,319
would provide us with again another window into the cabbalistic

2178
02:16:25,479 --> 02:16:29,319
nature of of the you know, uninitiated not being willing

2179
02:16:29,399 --> 02:16:32,360
to engage with what potentially could be the reality here,

2180
02:16:32,799 --> 02:16:37,520
which is this, These are ancient philosophical practices and techniques

2181
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:42,200
and ritualistic exercises that have been conducted for generations, and

2182
02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:45,239
and you know, I just feel like we we can

2183
02:16:45,319 --> 02:16:50,360
legitimately bridge that gap between uh, you know, just what

2184
02:16:50,479 --> 02:16:56,000
seemed to be theoretical, conspiratorial, extraordinary allegations to a legitimate

2185
02:16:56,520 --> 02:17:01,680
you know what what I view as just something that

2186
02:17:01,760 --> 02:17:06,040
is very much proven out utilizing the CORP BRNGE evidence

2187
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:10,719
exactly exactly, and that that gives us a window into

2188
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:13,559
I believe the true power paradigm at place.

2189
02:17:13,639 --> 02:17:17,200
Speaker 1: So I'd love to obviously, because I know I'm being

2190
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:19,319
quiet on this episode. Any might listen to my show.

2191
02:17:19,319 --> 02:17:21,879
I'm usually a jabber box, but you've had me intrigued,

2192
02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:23,520
and this is, like I said, this is not a

2193
02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:25,920
rabbit hole that I've went down. So I'm trying to

2194
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:28,840
soak all this in, and I know I'm kind of

2195
02:17:28,840 --> 02:17:30,639
a nerd. I dive into a lot of stuff. So

2196
02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:33,559
I'm sure a lot of the listeners are unfamiliar with this,

2197
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:36,520
and I'm sure you've sparked your curiosity. To say the least.

2198
02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:39,040
I would love to talk with you some more and

2199
02:17:39,159 --> 02:17:41,079
take a deeper dive on this stuff.

2200
02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:45,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy. That way, I won't because unfortunately, occasionally

2201
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:49,840
I'll take for granted the details of you know, just

2202
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:53,399
because I've been aware of certain things for you know,

2203
02:17:54,799 --> 02:17:59,239
I will unfortunately present things as if others are aware

2204
02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:02,520
of certain ass guilty A two right right over it.

2205
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like everybody knows that. No, everybody's not as weird

2206
02:18:05,239 --> 02:18:06,079
as you justin.

2207
02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:10,399
Speaker 2: Right, that's how that's legitimately how I feel. So I

2208
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:12,959
apologize if to the audience if it wasn't quite as

2209
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:16,639
palatable as I was hoping. But I'll, I promise you

2210
02:18:16,719 --> 02:18:20,559
next time around, I will I'll try and make sure

2211
02:18:20,600 --> 02:18:23,159
that that I'm much more of a smooth transition into

2212
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:25,200
certain certain topics so we can.

2213
02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:27,600
Speaker 1: Everybody's too rough on themselves, man, I think this was

2214
02:18:27,879 --> 02:18:30,399
a good discussion and the stuff that I didn't know

2215
02:18:30,399 --> 02:18:32,200
about it I mean not even was like, hey, now

2216
02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:34,639
what is that? For those that's not familiar you know,

2217
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:40,000
me included. But I appreciate you time. Man. You're you're

2218
02:18:40,040 --> 02:18:43,159
a well researched dude, and you connect dots and that's

2219
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:45,959
why we connect and get along so well and hit

2220
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:48,760
it right off at bro Grove. But Man, for anybody

2221
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:51,920
that missed the opening, or you know, was doing laundry

2222
02:18:51,959 --> 02:18:54,479
or dishes and maybe was out of the room at

2223
02:18:54,520 --> 02:18:57,200
the beginning of the show, just let everybody know little

2224
02:18:57,200 --> 02:19:00,479
information like where they find you man, your website podcast

2225
02:19:00,639 --> 02:19:02,840
if they want to dive into some more of your

2226
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:03,840
fascinating research.

2227
02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:07,200
Speaker 2: Man, Thank you, man, And honestly, I have to say,

2228
02:19:07,360 --> 02:19:10,200
I can't thank you enough for just being willing to

2229
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:13,079
have me on the show and have this conversation. But

2230
02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:17,799
I'll try not to. Yeah, you know, I am. I'm

2231
02:19:17,879 --> 02:19:20,360
very critical of myself, but at the same time, I

2232
02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:22,639
run my mouth a little too much. So I feel

2233
02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:26,440
like at a certain level I was almost you know,

2234
02:19:27,559 --> 02:19:29,719
it was almost kind of a filibuster in a way

2235
02:19:29,719 --> 02:19:32,520
at certain points. So I'll try and talk slower and

2236
02:19:32,600 --> 02:19:36,360
not be as ash. Yeah, but either way, I just

2237
02:19:36,399 --> 02:19:39,040
have to say, meeting you at bro Grove Man like

2238
02:19:39,280 --> 02:19:43,319
you you were such a good storyteller, like it inspired me.

2239
02:19:43,360 --> 02:19:45,719
I thought it was a it's just beautiful to listen

2240
02:19:45,760 --> 02:19:49,520
to you explain certain things and provide details of various

2241
02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:52,799
stories that you've experienced and have been told or or

2242
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:57,040
it just like it's very important in an I think

2243
02:19:57,079 --> 02:20:01,239
an unmastered skill in modern time, you know, where people

2244
02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:06,719
aren't quite as interested in that sort of just like

2245
02:20:06,799 --> 02:20:09,760
I think it's such a viable tool to presenting information

2246
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:12,159
and if you have the ability to kind of like

2247
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:16,959
just in capture, you just capture people's attention. Because you

2248
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:19,760
caught my attention, it was such an appealing way to

2249
02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:23,719
kind of go through describing an event that you experienced.

2250
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:26,280
And anyway, I thought it was very important, and so

2251
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:29,360
many people lack that ability these days, and I just

2252
02:20:29,399 --> 02:20:31,639
wanted to tell you that it's something that I very

2253
02:20:31,719 --> 02:20:35,760
much appreciate and I admire in you. So yeah, thank you,

2254
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:39,040
dude for being willing to tab me on, and also

2255
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:42,799
for being willing to have the conversations and be interested

2256
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:45,280
in the certain things that you research that are far

2257
02:20:45,399 --> 02:20:51,200
more interesting to certain people who might in certain ways

2258
02:20:51,719 --> 02:20:55,680
be unwilling to even venture into that territory, and I

2259
02:20:55,719 --> 02:20:58,920
think that we have to reject that concept of like

2260
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:03,200
undermined our credibility because we are presenting something that could

2261
02:21:03,239 --> 02:21:06,920
potentially just be a theoretical opinion or where we lie

2262
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:09,959
and based on the various evidence that we've been I'm

2263
02:21:10,000 --> 02:21:12,120
not saying that's what you do, but I'm just saying

2264
02:21:12,159 --> 02:21:15,799
that people need to, uh, they need to venture into

2265
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:18,920
the unknown in a way that is far more objective.

2266
02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:21,159
And I think you are doing that and that that

2267
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:25,600
is something that it's it's just yeah, it's very unique

2268
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,360
and I appreciate it very much, so thank you.

2269
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:31,079
Speaker 1: And that's one of my things too. I tell people

2270
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:33,719
I usually end the show, I tell them the difference

2271
02:21:33,719 --> 02:21:36,879
between the known and the unknown is the jet sauce.

2272
02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:40,360
Speaker 2: That is beautiful. That is beautiful. But I have to

2273
02:21:40,399 --> 02:21:42,879
say I did. I hit it off with you instantly

2274
02:21:42,920 --> 02:21:45,639
at bro Growth, So I would love to do this again.

2275
02:21:45,719 --> 02:21:48,639
I think, will only you know, improve in our dynamic

2276
02:21:48,760 --> 02:21:52,040
obviously over time and and I usually get more comfortable

2277
02:21:52,040 --> 02:21:55,000
with people as I go, but but I do I

2278
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:57,959
have to say thank you again, and anybody who's who's

2279
02:21:58,040 --> 02:22:01,040
interested in in my research or or have heard anything

2280
02:22:01,079 --> 02:22:04,920
I've ever done, and it resonated with you. The Underclasspodcast

2281
02:22:04,959 --> 02:22:07,760
dot com slash you know, well it's Patreon dot com slash.

2282
02:22:07,799 --> 02:22:10,440
The Underclass Podcast is really the best place to support me.

2283
02:22:10,920 --> 02:22:14,120
And and at least there, you know, you'll you, uh,

2284
02:22:14,159 --> 02:22:17,479
there's an at least an incentive in place that even

2285
02:22:17,559 --> 02:22:21,280
at the lowest level three dollars tier, you'll gain access

2286
02:22:21,319 --> 02:22:25,600
to my Paywalt show with Brad Bankley from The Propaganda

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Report and Sam Tripley from a tinfoil Hat, and we

2288
02:22:29,360 --> 02:22:31,760
do a show called whatever This is, and it's definitely

2289
02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:33,959
it's a lot of fun. We just kind of shoot

2290
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:37,280
the shit a little bit, but also, you know, just

2291
02:22:37,360 --> 02:22:41,479
discuss things that we find very interesting and important and

2292
02:22:42,680 --> 02:22:46,040
underacknowledged in certain ways and in the the sort of

2293
02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:52,280
just news cycle and how how how over honestly, man like,

2294
02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:59,000
the unprecedented level of of every I mean, the speed

2295
02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:03,280
right of of this current news cycle is just I mean,

2296
02:23:03,440 --> 02:23:06,440
we're talking there are stories that we should be prioritizing

2297
02:23:06,440 --> 02:23:10,319
and focusing on and they're just lost in the cycle

2298
02:23:10,520 --> 02:23:13,760
right in just a matter of days. And to me,

2299
02:23:14,079 --> 02:23:18,120
it's unnatural. It's something that you know, it definitely, I

2300
02:23:18,159 --> 02:23:20,799
think just as far as the human condition, we weren't

2301
02:23:20,799 --> 02:23:27,360
necessarily ever meant to be exactly to information at such

2302
02:23:27,399 --> 02:23:31,280
an extraordinary level. But anyway, yeah, I just have to say, man,

2303
02:23:31,319 --> 02:23:33,719
bro Grove was a dream, and thank you again, man,

2304
02:23:33,799 --> 02:23:37,360
And if anybody does appreciate it the Underclass podcast you

2305
02:23:37,360 --> 02:23:39,600
can pretty much find most of my interviews as well.

2306
02:23:40,719 --> 02:23:43,000
But yeah, I appreciate you, brother, Thank you again. Man.

2307
02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:45,639
Speaker 1: No, Man, I appreciate you. I appreciate you time. I

2308
02:23:45,680 --> 02:23:49,239
tell people all the time, time is last's most valuable assets.

2309
02:23:49,280 --> 02:23:51,920
You can get more of everything, but the one thing

2310
02:23:51,959 --> 02:23:54,399
you can't get more of is time, So that's life's

2311
02:23:54,399 --> 02:23:57,520
most valuable asset. So I appreciate you spending it with me, man,

2312
02:23:57,799 --> 02:23:59,680
But guys, you enjoyed that day, be sure to check

2313
02:23:59,680 --> 02:24:02,319
out all as you see. This dude is a well

2314
02:24:02,399 --> 02:24:05,680
researched wealth of knowledge and he's just an overall good dude.

2315
02:24:06,479 --> 02:24:09,159
One of my gifts is I have discernment. Man, I

2316
02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:11,639
can look at somebody, hang out with him for two

2317
02:24:11,760 --> 02:24:14,159
minutes and tell you what guy personally are, and Austin

2318
02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:16,600
is good people, So be sure and check him out

2319
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:19,360
and support him. And hey, guys, just like I said earlier,

2320
02:24:19,479 --> 02:24:22,840
the difference between the known and the unknown. Is the

2321
02:24:22,959 --> 02:24:25,159
journey so good? Journey, guys,