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<v Speaker 1>Yo, what is up? Boys? How's it going? And welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to another episode of the One Piece Virgin podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>covering the end of a saga a mammoth of an arc,

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<v Speaker 1>Marine Ford and with me Today we have the One

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<v Speaker 1>Piece Virgin herself, Poseidon Mythols. What's up gamer?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello? Oh boy? Do we have an arc to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about today?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And we have Jordan joined us today.

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<v Speaker 4>What's up? Everybody? Happy to be here?

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<v Speaker 3>I know this is a bit of a big arc,

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<v Speaker 3>so I took some liberties and Briggs I was able

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<v Speaker 3>to secure a sponsorship.

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<v Speaker 4>For this episode. So do we want to go ahead

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<v Speaker 4>and say what that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Or this episode is sponsored by Jordan?

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<v Speaker 4>I got I brought donuts for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I just like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's too soon, too soon. I had the box sitting

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<v Speaker 4>in there. I felt like I had.

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<v Speaker 1>To so bad boiler warning, spoiler warning from so long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, a lot of we finally get some death

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<v Speaker 1>in this in this arc. Poseidon. General thoughts on Marine Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>Peak definitely, in my opinion, the best arc up until

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<v Speaker 2>this point. This was such shot a good arc. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I think emotionally, I think I'm more attached to

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<v Speaker 2>like water seven and Eddie's lobby, just because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that that those like that saga like really hurt me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't. I still think that Marine Ford is

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<v Speaker 2>I like, just a masterpiece. I absolutely loved it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm heartbroken. I'm not gonna lie. I. I actually haven't

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<v Speaker 2>watched much One Piece after I finished this arc because

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<v Speaker 2>I was just emotionally suppressed to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, I do like your I like your

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<v Speaker 1>take that you think emotionally Water seven and his Lobby

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<v Speaker 1>hit you harder, And it makes sense because you were

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<v Speaker 1>following the straw Hats for a long period of time

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<v Speaker 1>versus people like Ace white Beard Garp that like pulled

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<v Speaker 1>those feelings from you. You didn't know as long, but

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<v Speaker 1>you do get to kind of feel it through Loofy's reaction, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Lufy's like kneeling next to Ace. But we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>that when we get to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Nine out of ten arc needed more, Robin. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's usually the.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my I think it's my favorite, my favorite arc,

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<v Speaker 1>and the entire anime as well. It's just downhill from here, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going into the new era. The One Piece is real. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Oh my god, Okay, where do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to start for Sidon?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we did start the arc did start off

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<v Speaker 2>with a huge, huge reveal. So up until this point,

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<v Speaker 2>we were given the information that As and Loofy are brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>They grew up together. So in my head up until

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<v Speaker 2>this point, I was just like, Okay, so she's also

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<v Speaker 2>Dragon's kid. They kind of look similar, they have black hair,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had no idea when they did reveal like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, Ace is gold d Rogers son, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember having to like pause the episode. I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>what what's you had the same reaction as Bonkov. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I I I'm sure maybe most viewers also probably

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<v Speaker 2>thought the same that oh, both of these characters are

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<v Speaker 2>Dragon son. No, they he's an adoptive brother. And we

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<v Speaker 2>do get to find out that when Goldie Roger was

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<v Speaker 2>going to get executed, the Marines were going all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place looking to see if maybe he was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a kid, because there were rumors spreading around that he,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, was with certain people. So his mom, her

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<v Speaker 2>name is port Gusty rouge uh in A, in an

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to save a decided to hold in his pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for like twenty months total, a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>She she held him in and as a result, when

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<v Speaker 2>he was born, she did end up passing away. So

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<v Speaker 2>he no longer has a father or a mother and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just him and it's really sad. But we get

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<v Speaker 2>to find out that when Roger was in jail ready

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<v Speaker 2>for his execution, he was begging Garp to please take

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<v Speaker 2>care of his son. So Garp, promising him, did raise

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<v Speaker 2>Ace with Loofy and took care of him.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why the brothers not biological.

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<v Speaker 2>Not biologically, but they did grow up together, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was just really sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say I never really fell in love with

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<v Speaker 1>Ace as a character, but I did fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>with white Beard. He yes the best. He's just the

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<v Speaker 1>best dad in anime, one of the best dads. Who

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I actually feel very similarly because I think white Beard, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie, like Ace's death did hit me

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<v Speaker 2>very hard, but I think Whitebeard's death actually hit me

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<v Speaker 2>a lot harder because I mean, throughout the throughout the arc,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to see white Beard and how much he

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<v Speaker 2>loves his sons, his crew, and how he is like

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<v Speaker 2>a dad, like he took care of everyone. He loves

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<v Speaker 2>them all the same, and it's you get to see

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<v Speaker 2>that with the way he interacts, and you get like

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<v Speaker 2>flashbacks to certain characters and how white Beard saved them

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<v Speaker 2>from the rock bottom, and it was just, oh God,

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<v Speaker 2>I love white Beard And it's such a shame that honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>up until this point, we didn't really get to see

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<v Speaker 2>him very much. We knew of him, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to see like him until this arc, so we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to spend much time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really is. It is a testament though, like how

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<v Speaker 1>much we were able to fall in love with white Beard,

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<v Speaker 1>how much you grew attached to him in such a

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<v Speaker 1>small amount of time. It was only like fifteen or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty chapters that you really got to know him, like

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to like this point. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many chapters Marine Ford is overall, but leading up to

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like when I fell in love with him,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've only really known him for a small amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Yes, I will say, though you were spoiled

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<v Speaker 1>for Ace's death, I'm assuming because now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're I was. What did it for me was there

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<v Speaker 2>was someone at my locals we were talking about, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>from One Piece goes. We were talking about like Kasaka Zuki,

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<v Speaker 2>the leader was banned for like over a year. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>in One Piece TCG and someone called him donut maker

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what what do you mean donut maker?

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<v Speaker 2>And they were like, oh, she doesn't know, and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it. But then like they spoiled me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, god, damn it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you guys, that feels bad.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that you lasted that long to not get

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<v Speaker 1>spoiled and then got speiled in that way is really

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking because you were not as shocked. But for people

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<v Speaker 1>that were reading and watching along the way One Piece,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't really die up until this point.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we didn't have any major characters die.

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<v Speaker 1>Most characters up until this point, even on the verge

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<v Speaker 1>of death what they should be dying from. In this

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<v Speaker 1>fictional world, they're able to survive. And if amost felt like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get away, people are gonna live and survive

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<v Speaker 1>it like everything's always gonna work out, And then this.

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<v Speaker 2>Ar kids, Yeah, I think correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this arc was what changed One Piece

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<v Speaker 2>just moving forward, I think that this is the huge

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<v Speaker 2>turning point. It's the end of an era. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>like Loofy, at most of the arcs, if not all

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<v Speaker 2>of them, up until this point, he has won every

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<v Speaker 2>single battle. He has been able to defeat the big

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<v Speaker 2>bad guys. And this is the first arc where that

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<v Speaker 2>does not happen. That perhaps maybe Lufy is not strong

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<v Speaker 2>enough to become King of the Pirates, perhaps he's not

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<v Speaker 2>strong enough to stand up to the world government. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's so heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't even handle himself against one Pacifista. I sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to cut you off, barely could handle one Pacifista. One

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<v Speaker 1>Pacifista could destroy the straw Hat Crew at this at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in Sabadi or like whatever, one strong adversary,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of Pacifistas at this war admirals, vice Admirals, Sengoku,

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<v Speaker 1>Garp Mihawk, which we got to talk about so much stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just such a reality check. And throughout this saga

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<v Speaker 1>you get reality checks from Sabadi to impel down. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is like the final like Okay, they're small fish

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<v Speaker 1>in a huge pond.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it really hammers it home in this arc

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<v Speaker 3>as far as basically giving Lufy a couple retries with

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<v Speaker 3>the Vonkove and whatnot, like energy boosts, like he gave

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<v Speaker 3>it his all throughout a couple of art back to

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<v Speaker 3>back to back, and it really hammered home that like

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<v Speaker 3>effort alone is not enough at this point, right, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you can want it as bad as you want it,

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<v Speaker 3>but at a certain point reality sets in and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>towards the very end of the arc, like it flashes

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<v Speaker 3>back where you know Shanks is, you know, giving Lookie

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<v Speaker 3>back the straw hat and he chooses not to have

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<v Speaker 3>a reunion because it flashes back to where it says

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<v Speaker 3>like you can give this back to me when you're

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<v Speaker 3>a great pirate and he's like, you know, if we

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<v Speaker 3>meet now, we'll be breaking that vow, right Like, this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't the promised time. He's not a great pirate yet

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<v Speaker 3>at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, I'm gonna lift list off characters. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to rush through them. But rather than going chronologically,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to bring up a character and then you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are going to talk about what you thought about

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<v Speaker 1>what they did in the arc or how you felt

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<v Speaker 1>about them in the arc. It might be an easier

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<v Speaker 1>way because this is a mammoth and we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a obviously like we can't spend two hours here. Crocodile,

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<v Speaker 1>any any any idea that ideas on him from the god.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that man, still one of my favorite villains

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<v Speaker 2>up in.

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<v Speaker 4>The three letters for him, all right, MVP, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean that's Buggy, that's mister three and Buggy.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I will.

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<v Speaker 3>Say the very first time they they say to go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and execute ah though, because they rushed up the schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>Whose sand was it that took out your guards that

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<v Speaker 3>were about to swing down the axe?

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<v Speaker 4>Right like it? It was Crocky boy as they were

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<v Speaker 4>about to escape.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, you know post donut, post donut, how did

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Bay and uh and Loofy get out of there?

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<v Speaker 3>Crocodile send him flying over over to Buggy right so.

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<v Speaker 1>And who woke up Whitebeard after he was unconscious? Crocodile

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<v Speaker 1>joining their side and being like, come on, old man,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't beaten by such a fucking weekling or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and Whitebeard gets up and rejoins the fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, one of the most unexpected alliances that

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<v Speaker 3>had a smoker just in shock.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, yeah, I think a lot of them were

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<v Speaker 2>like what like he's helping them out because I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody at this point knew that Loofy was the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why he's no longer a warlord, Like everybody knows that

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<v Speaker 2>Loofy defeated him back in Alabasta. And I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 2>was also really shocked at like how cooperative he was

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<v Speaker 2>and how willing he was to help, because initially he

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<v Speaker 2>went to Marine for to have at it with white Beard, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but as the arc kind of went on, he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of switched sides and was like, no, we're we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Let's move on to Garp. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he's such a You get to see

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<v Speaker 2>him throughout this arc kind of go having very conflicting feelings. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>he has to, you know, do his job as a

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<v Speaker 2>vice admiral to me make sure that this execution goes

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<v Speaker 2>without a hitch. But I mean, Aces is his grandson,

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<v Speaker 2>Like maybe not biologically, but he helped raise Ace, so

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<v Speaker 2>you see a lot of his conflicting feelings. Like throughout

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<v Speaker 2>know they're about to execute him and he's like closing

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a fight between Garb and Loofy, and

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<v Speaker 2>Loofy absolutely punched the shit out of him. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also feel that Garp was probably holding back a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, couldn't him. He couldn't bring himself to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you at this point in the story, Garp

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<v Speaker 1>would destroy Loofy in every possible way, Like Garb is stronger,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's just unable to hit his grandson.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy though that he was sitting there and

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<v Speaker 1>his two grandsons, one about to be executed, one being

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<v Speaker 1>attacked by pirates, and him still try to fulfill his

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<v Speaker 1>like his duty as a marine, Like you could see

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<v Speaker 1>it in his eyes. And I don't know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>small thing that I really really appreciated with this arc.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's you get to see he feels like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he felt a lot of shame too, because

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<v Speaker 2>now the government knows that Garth was the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>Ace was alive in the first place. Like if it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't for Garth taking care of Ace, who knows what

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So yeah, he had a lot of that disappointed

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<v Speaker 3>dad energy as far as like why didn't you boys

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<v Speaker 3>listen to me? Now this is what's happening. But he

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<v Speaker 3>immediately after Lufy punched him and stuff like, he's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of obviously like, so you chose your family over you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your duties as a marine, which makes sense, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>just one of those conflicts that were was internal and

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<v Speaker 3>not really clear probably up until that point on which

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<v Speaker 3>way it would go.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So also I felt like, oh, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say there's a moment after Ace

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<v Speaker 1>gets killed where Garp looks at Sengoku and says, hold

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<v Speaker 1>me down or I'll kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually gonna mention.

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<v Speaker 1>That people got mad at me. I I genuinely think

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be a close fight. I still think it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a close fight between gar I am. I am the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest GARB Blazer of all time, saying like Loki, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he's like older, so he's not gonna bee as strong

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<v Speaker 1>as as he was in his prime. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest GARB Blazer, he's like entering up to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And now the goat.

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<v Speaker 4>He's something, he's something.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean at this point of the story, you obviously

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<v Speaker 1>like you just you don't really know gar that much.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to meet him, and again you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like od did such a good job in

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<v Speaker 1>an arc with like fresh characters making you fall in

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<v Speaker 1>love with him and care for them. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think I probably Goku is stronger because he's younger,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think pri Sengku. I'm like, god man, Kayu, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my bad, I've been saying Sengku both times. I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying Sengku is the one who donutted, right, yes, my bad,

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying versus Garb and I still think would

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<v Speaker 1>have put up a fight even in his old age.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeahky is the one that, uh that donuted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't know why I kept I'm saying donut

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<v Speaker 1>maker misspoke my bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, Oh good, oh good. I'm just making sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I was saying that such a laser

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<v Speaker 1>because like obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the admiral like, yeah, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the the admirals fighting this arc, right, like initially they

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<v Speaker 3>seem like they're kind of evenly matched against uh white

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<v Speaker 3>Beard's division commanders and whatnot, But we see by the

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<v Speaker 3>end that the only one that really held his own

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<v Speaker 3>against one was uh was white Beard himself, right, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, the admirals were were huge.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like we had so many, so many big bads

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<v Speaker 3>from previous arcs were involved in this war, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were not the biggest players by far right, So that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Mehawk, how do you guys feel about Me Hawk?

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<v Speaker 1>You got to see him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you. My favorite scene with me Hawk is actually

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, which is like when Shanks comes in

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<v Speaker 2>and Me Hawk's like, you know what, I'm not I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not fighting anymore. We're not crocodile Meehawks just sees

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<v Speaker 2>Shanks and it's like, nope, I'm good, I'm leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>I agreed to fight white Beard. He didn't agree to this.

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<v Speaker 3>We have earlier in the show of them drinking together

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<v Speaker 3>and being buddies, right, so it's like that, Yeah, he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want that problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I know what Shanks is capable of.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, I think this is the first arc we

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<v Speaker 2>actually get to see me Hawk actually like put up

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<v Speaker 2>a fight because I mean, his fight against Zorro was

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<v Speaker 2>ended pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 3>He is is that swordsman that is the greatest in

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<v Speaker 3>the world at heart, right, So we see him kind

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<v Speaker 3>of kick off all the action in this arc with

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<v Speaker 3>a basically throwing a slash at white Beard.

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<v Speaker 4>Himself, just wanting to test himself.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we see him fight against the Loufi fight

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<v Speaker 3>against Crocodile, like he was one of the one, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the few should cheep chi cheap o guy that

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<v Speaker 3>really wanted to get involved in this arc, right, whereas

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<v Speaker 3>others were, you know, kind of there. They're kind of participating,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're like, we're just more so because we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of have to be right, whereas I don't know, he

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<v Speaker 3>kind of jumped into the mix a little bit quicker, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will say, though he jumps in quick, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like he doesn't try and I don't like I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted more from him on this arc. And I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still like a pirate. He's still like an in

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<v Speaker 1>between between white Beard and thing. And obviously he sided

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<v Speaker 1>himself more with the Marines because he was backing the

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<v Speaker 1>Marines in this case. But I feel like he's just

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna help a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it makes sense too though, because I mean we

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<v Speaker 3>had a couple of cool moments like like that slash

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<v Speaker 3>or like slashing the entire iceberg. But the seven warlords

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<v Speaker 3>in this arc are kind of like in a in

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<v Speaker 3>a typical battle, what like mercenaries would be right like,

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<v Speaker 3>they're there, but they don't really have like a steak

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<v Speaker 3>in the the whole thing. They're there because they're they

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<v Speaker 3>have to be for you know, uh, for their end

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<v Speaker 3>of the bargain to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Filled as well. Yes, whereas like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Pirates there, they're they're there fighting to the death trying

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<v Speaker 3>to save their their boy and the Marines. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like the big battle, you know, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>who wins, this is deciding the era right here, right

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<v Speaker 3>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I think you're absolutely right in regards to it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense like he's forced to be there. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really want to do what he's doing, probably, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>forced to be there. So he's like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>put in enough effort to get the paycheck, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the role right, but he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do enough to really change the tides, which I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he was probably very He's probably very capable of

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<v Speaker 1>doing stuff that could change the the outcome or like

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<v Speaker 1>largely affect the outcome if he actually tried, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>we see that from.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the Seven Warlords, right, you know, Boa

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<v Speaker 3>doing the.

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<v Speaker 4>Stuff for Whitebeard's side, probably more so than not.

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<v Speaker 1>But she gets away with it because she's beautiful, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we could talk about next thoughts on Bulla

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<v Speaker 1>and this arc Poseidon.

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<v Speaker 2>She she was comedic relief because you do get to

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<v Speaker 2>see her. I mean, she's a warlord, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>she kept her eyes on Loofy and made sure that

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<v Speaker 2>Loufy was able to get out of certain fights unscathed.

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<v Speaker 2>Particularly one of my favorite ones was when Smoker was

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<v Speaker 2>having at it with Loofy. And if you didn't like,

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<v Speaker 2>we like, how do I see this Smoker? I forgot?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a logiah?

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<v Speaker 1>Fruit?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he? Is he a logia?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember his whole body into into smoking? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so they can turn their whole body like into the

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<v Speaker 3>element of the thing, then that's when they're a logias.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I keep forgetting, like which is which? But typically

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<v Speaker 2>most people, if they try to like fight Smoker, their

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<v Speaker 2>their hand or foot or whatever. We'll just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>go right through him. But poa poa like legitimately like

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<v Speaker 2>did some damage to him. And you get to see

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<v Speaker 2>the shock on Tashigi's face and it's like, wait, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that, Like he's a Lujah she is. And

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<v Speaker 2>you even get to like hear Smoker go her hockey

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<v Speaker 2>is so like strong, so BoA's love for Lufy is

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<v Speaker 2>is insane. You get to see like a little flash

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<v Speaker 2>but like a little de Lulu, like not flashbacks, but

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<v Speaker 2>like her he her like the Lulu going off to

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I'm gonna marry Lufy. We're gonna live together forever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna cook for him, I'm gonna clean, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Bora is definitely worthy of her role because

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<v Speaker 1>not only does she have like a crazy devil fruit,

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<v Speaker 1>not only does like people turn the stone just by

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<v Speaker 1>looking at her attractiveness, but she also has like a

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<v Speaker 1>good control over hockey, able to fight someone like Smoker

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<v Speaker 1>like She's actually like like a lot stronger than I

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<v Speaker 1>think we would realize that first glass glance, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Bora is quite a bit stronger than Lufy at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's a She's one of the seven warlords for

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<v Speaker 3>a reason, right, So but yeah, they do play her

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<v Speaker 3>role pretty comedic here in this arc as far as

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<v Speaker 3>uh all the just the unexpectedness of her knowing loofy,

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<v Speaker 3>all the soldiers reacting like did he just take her

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<v Speaker 3>down with like a like a bear hugg did he

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<v Speaker 3>just like what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you going? He hugged me? You know? Is this

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<v Speaker 4>what marriage feels like?

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<v Speaker 3>So so yeah, they played it off a little bit comedic,

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<v Speaker 3>but she had her big moments, like especially towards the end,

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<v Speaker 3>like basically being the reason he was able to get

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<v Speaker 3>past all the Pacifista right, which is, as we've seen,

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00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:35.240
<v Speaker 3>he can't take those out at this moment. But she

421
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<v Speaker 3>she kind of does that work for for him, because

422
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<v Speaker 3>she's listed as an ally.

423
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<v Speaker 4>Under their their white list. I guess you'd call it, right.

424
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<v Speaker 1>So okay, let's talk about do Flamingo another Shuji Bukai.

425
00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, he he did some emotional damage, cut

426
00:21:57.319 --> 00:21:59.880
<v Speaker 2>his legs off, her foot or whatever he did with

427
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.599
<v Speaker 2>string fruit. I was like, this is this is one

428
00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:10.920
<v Speaker 2>bitch ass motherfuck No, he's he's strong, he is. He

429
00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.000
<v Speaker 2>is incredibly strong. Uh, he's quite the interesting character to

430
00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:17.839
<v Speaker 2>me too. He's kind of I don't know how to

431
00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:21.839
<v Speaker 2>say it, but he's kind of there's.

432
00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.200
<v Speaker 1>A few he's like chaotic. He's like chaotic evil or

433
00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:28.759
<v Speaker 1>chaotic chaotic. It feels like where he was just down

434
00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:31.319
<v Speaker 1>for like he didn't even care what which side won.

435
00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:35.559
<v Speaker 1>He just like, yeah, more reveals he felt like a fan.

436
00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:37.480
<v Speaker 4>He's like he was having with it.

437
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.039
<v Speaker 1>He was having funny like keep going like like like

438
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<v Speaker 1>the more the more crazy this gets, the better the

439
00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:44.279
<v Speaker 1>more fun it is for me. And like he does

440
00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:46.319
<v Speaker 1>have one line. I don't know if you remember the

441
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<v Speaker 1>quote Poseidon.

442
00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I think I do, because there's a card I play

443
00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:54.680
<v Speaker 2>in all my green decks. It's because the side of

444
00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:58.279
<v Speaker 2>justice right will be whichever side that wins exactly kind

445
00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:03.079
<v Speaker 2>of like that, Yeah, that's he wasn't necessarily like rooting

446
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>or rooting for one side versus the other. He's just like, well,

447
00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:07.039
<v Speaker 2>whoever wins is that that's justice.

448
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they're the ones who paint history, and there's

449
00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:11.839
<v Speaker 1>definitely something true about that even with with our world

450
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>as well.

451
00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, it makes me think back a little bit too,

452
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:19.160
<v Speaker 2>back in Stoboudi where he had that conversation with the

453
00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.079
<v Speaker 2>auction house dude, like and he's just like, you guys

454
00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:24.519
<v Speaker 2>are on your own right now, entering like a new era,

455
00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:28.200
<v Speaker 2>right which I think he was also kind of hinting

456
00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.880
<v Speaker 2>out as well throughout this arc that we're whatever is

457
00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:34.680
<v Speaker 2>happening in Marine for Now is going to dictate how

458
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the rest of history is going to like pan out.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Dop Flamingo is definitely one of those that's kind of

460
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<v Speaker 3>looking at the bigger picture and yeah and seeing things

461
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.359
<v Speaker 3>kind of as they play out, looking very forward looking

462
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 3>with it, right and uh, but he's also just very

463
00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:50.599
<v Speaker 3>entertained by the whole thing as far as my favorite

464
00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:52.359
<v Speaker 3>moment of his probably in this art, because it's just

465
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 3>his reaction when Blackbeard and stuff shows up, right, like he's.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Having the most that's the whole thing at.

467
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.079
<v Speaker 4>Some point, Doffy's reaction to it.

468
00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:08.759
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Yeah, let's talk about Buggy super quick, my goat,

469
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite characters in All A one piece.

470
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:19.599
<v Speaker 2>He him and mister mister three and his their little

471
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 2>goons or whatever. They they were definitely other comedic relief

472
00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:27.160
<v Speaker 2>throughout this art. I mean, they were trying to leave.

473
00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:29.680
<v Speaker 2>They were just like, I'm out of here. You don't

474
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:31.880
<v Speaker 2>want to be a part of this. But they just

475
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.920
<v Speaker 2>somehow kept getting wrapped up and like whatever shenanigans or

476
00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:40.119
<v Speaker 2>came a point where the transponder snail they like kidnapped

477
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.440
<v Speaker 2>one of them and they were they were broadcasting like

478
00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:45.759
<v Speaker 2>whatever was happening. But they were just being silly on

479
00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:46.240
<v Speaker 2>the camera.

480
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:48.319
<v Speaker 1>They were trying to make a dog. They're like, this

481
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>is the story of the man who was on the

482
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.200
<v Speaker 1>crew with the pirate King, and like he gets so

483
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>notorious because of all this shit. It's hilarious.

484
00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what you guys are talking about.

485
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Comed Relieve, what do you what do you mean? This

486
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:04.240
<v Speaker 3>is We see him kind of go back and forth

487
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 3>with with white Beard as equals there towards the start

488
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:09.480
<v Speaker 3>of the arc, and then they're the ones that keep

489
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:13.160
<v Speaker 3>the press and like the the camera's going as the

490
00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:18.039
<v Speaker 3>government tries to shut everybody in the dark, right, which yeah, yeah,

491
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, buggies. Then he carries Loofy out.

492
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 1>At the end, he does he does oh, speaking of

493
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 1>standing up to white Beard, Loofy stands up to white

494
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Beard in a pretty great way. Thoughts on that guys.

495
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, not quite as good as Buggies, but

496
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:35.559
<v Speaker 3>like it was got the crowd going.

497
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

498
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:42.640
<v Speaker 2>No, Loofy was not scared of him either. He was

499
00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.799
<v Speaker 2>just like, you know, we're gonna do this, and you know,

500
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>you get to see white Beard also see how much

501
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.480
<v Speaker 2>heart Loofy has and he's telling I believe he told

502
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Marco like, no matter what happens, you have to make

503
00:25:54.799 --> 00:26:00.559
<v Speaker 2>sure this this man or boy doesn't die. So yeah,

504
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 2>if white Beard put a lot of trust into Loofy

505
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.799
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that Ace was able to escape.

506
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Lufy had a lot of a lot

507
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 3>of people kind of watching his back over the course

508
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 3>of this arc, which plays into the whole Uh you

509
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:19.839
<v Speaker 3>know how probably under leveled he was for this particular saga,

510
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 3>but uh, you know, a big reason for that was

511
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:22.720
<v Speaker 3>the impression he made.

512
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Right. So I said in interviews prior that Lufy's very.

513
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 3>Much a man of action. Yes, there's a reason, like

514
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 3>it's very intentional that he never really has internal dialogue,

515
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 3>that there's only a couple of segments I think ever

516
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:37.720
<v Speaker 3>in the story where he does and everything he kind

517
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 3>of thinks he says out loud, right, And because of that, yes,

518
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.440
<v Speaker 3>makes good impressions on people like white Beard, like he's

519
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 3>just very uh I don't know, charismatic in that way

520
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:48.799
<v Speaker 3>where he's very trustworthy and uh yeah, they.

521
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.160
<v Speaker 4>Kind of let him lead the charge, right, So yeah,

522
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:52.119
<v Speaker 4>something you said about that.

523
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So, as you mentioned before, Jordan, Ace is a belt

524
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 1>to be killed quite a few times in this art,

525
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:58.640
<v Speaker 1>they keep on teasing the execution a belt to happen.

526
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Crocodile save the day one time, mister three you mentioned

527
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>with comedic relief, the MVP brings that what's it called,

528
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>like the wax fruits to turn into a key to

529
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>unlock Ace the goat. But there's also a moment where

530
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Loofy saves Ace's life with a blast of conquerors. Hockey

531
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that.

532
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, where he tells everybody to stop. This was when

533
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>he was on the bridge, right when Ino Zoomam used

534
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 2>the fruit to make a bridge, if I'm remembering correctly.

535
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I just remember that Age was about to be executed

536
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:34.519
<v Speaker 1>and he was surrounded by pirates.

537
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and everybody was in shock. Most of the

538
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>marines kind of fell to the ground and they were

539
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.039
<v Speaker 2>just and the people who were able to withstand the

540
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Conqueror's hockey were just like, holy shit, this kid has it.

541
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.680
<v Speaker 2>He has it the one in one million like type

542
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.359
<v Speaker 2>of hockey. Like not it's not one of those hockeys

543
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.599
<v Speaker 2>that you you can learn. It's one of those ones.

544
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>If I'm remembering correctly, you have to be boring.

545
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you have it or also super random. I

546
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>sent this to you, Jordan, but rewatching this arc, which

547
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 1>is what I did at I work a side job.

548
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>What I did at work today is I watched this.

549
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I sent to you a screenshot. I gotta find it though,

550
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I said the panel that yeah, yeah, me Hawks says

551
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>to Loofy or says or thinks or thinks out aloud whatever. Sorry,

552
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Red Haired, but this power knows no restraint. Now, Fate,

553
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 1>how will you deal with this heaven sent boy? Will

554
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>his life end here? Or will he escape this black blade?

555
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Me talk about the fight Loofy. It just in reread

556
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 1>rewatching this is something I appreciated. I don't want to

557
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 1>get into it too much, Jordan.

558
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.640
<v Speaker 3>It's just something yeah, yeah, No, it's definitely Loofy kind

559
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 3>of survived by the skin of his teeth in this arc, right,

560
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 3>like he definitely could have gone out at multiple points

561
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:58.279
<v Speaker 3>that was one of the starting ones, and uh yeah,

562
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it was one of those arcs that

563
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 3>rereading it, there was a lot of thought put into

564
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 3>how everything kind of played out. I know we're not

565
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 3>covering it chronologically, but just as far.

566
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 4>As tactics and stuff go, because one of the first

567
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 4>things Lufy says to white Beard is, hey, we just

568
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 4>heard on the radio.

569
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, they're they're bumping up the execution, right, And

570
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:17.480
<v Speaker 3>that was kind of a fake out, trying to get

571
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.079
<v Speaker 3>them to rush in quick. And uh so, yeah, there's

572
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:26.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot of different ways that Lufy's personality kind of

573
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>played into that as far as like them cutting it

574
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.440
<v Speaker 3>down to one way, but he still ran in any

575
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 3>ways knowing it's a trap, whereas a lot of other

576
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 3>people hesitate. So uh yeah, I mean Lufy is very

577
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 3>determined in this art, but and that played a way

578
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 3>of kind of getting through all those other mind games

579
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 3>everybody else was playing.

580
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, sorry, sorry that bit.

581
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Of a no I appreciate it.

582
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

583
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we talked about we said Buggy, we talked about

584
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Mister Three, we talked about Okay, why don't we actually

585
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>take a second to talk about white Beard. Maybe we

586
00:29:58.200 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>did obviously talk about him a bunch, he said, cha,

587
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>he's a great dad. But deciding if you want to

588
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>go a little bit deeper on what you thought about

589
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a thought about white Beard, he.

590
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I was shocked that his I mean, it wasn't just

591
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>his crew. I guess he has like not side crews,

592
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 2>but like pirate crews that are allied allied with him.

593
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>It was I was shocked at how many people he

594
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>brought over to to Marine Ford. And that just goes

595
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>to show how much these other people love Whitebeard and

596
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:38.319
<v Speaker 2>how well he takes care of his children. But it

597
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of hurt, just like seeing throughout this arc, and

598
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>it was mentioned pretty in a few places that you know,

599
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.599
<v Speaker 2>white Beard's no longer at his peak, He's not as

600
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 2>strong as he used to be. And you get to

601
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:55.039
<v Speaker 2>see him like he's still incredibly strong, right, but you

602
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you kind of know as if you were like, is

603
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 2>he gonna make this out of this alive? Is he

604
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna be you know, able to to fight like the

605
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 2>admirals and stuff. And you see him struggle too, I

606
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>mean one of his uh, one of his crew actually

607
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 2>ends up stabbing him yep during this.

608
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Arc and fuck that dude. You know what White them.

609
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I actually feel bad for the dude because I said,

610
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 3>everybody else was playing mind games, right, and I knew

611
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 3>that uh gold Roger was responsible for killing Squaltz Crew, right,

612
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 3>and he had this grudge against gold Roger. And you know,

613
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 3>the Marines came out with this propaganda this uh they

614
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 3>were saying at the very start that uh, you know,

615
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 3>not only uh is white Beard trying to make Ace

616
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 3>the next king of the Pirates, right, He's trying to

617
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 3>put him up, but he's willing.

618
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 4>To sacrifice everybody else to do so. Right.

619
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 3>There was an agreement and the Marines only attacked his

620
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 3>allied crews and not white Beard's crew itself, just to

621
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 3>make it, just to play into that and make it

622
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 3>seem like, uh, like they really were being betrayed, right,

623
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:58.759
<v Speaker 3>So he played.

624
00:31:58.440 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 4>On that doubt.

625
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think they executed it quite well, especially

626
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 1>like Squald really hates Goldie Roger. Meanwhile, he didn't know

627
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 1>that Ace was his son, right, right, So that adds

628
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.519
<v Speaker 1>even more fuel to the fire. And then it just

629
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.559
<v Speaker 1>seems like, yeah, trying to trying to prop up Ace.

630
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.319
<v Speaker 1>It makes sense, and it's even even it's so sad

631
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>when he when he stabs him, but like him Whitebeard

632
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>forgiving him so easily. It's such a beautiful moment.

633
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>It's because white Beard kind of sees the reality of

634
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:28.839
<v Speaker 3>the situation, right, he sees it's not a real betrayal,

635
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.880
<v Speaker 3>he's just misled. And then, uh, like the reality of

636
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>the situation is like in the flashback when Ace you know,

637
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 3>tells white Beard who his dad is, Like white Beard

638
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.720
<v Speaker 3>doesn't really care, right, Like he says that's not important,

639
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Like you can't blame a son for the sins of

640
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 3>his father. So so it plays into whole white Beard's

641
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.400
<v Speaker 3>personality a lot there as far as what kind of

642
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.880
<v Speaker 3>man he is, right, what he really cares about, what

643
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:52.759
<v Speaker 3>his values are?

644
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Talk about Blackbeard now, but I.

645
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 3>Get sorry, I don't want to send on soapbox too long.

646
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.279
<v Speaker 3>But like, all we're talking about white Beard, can we

647
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:02.680
<v Speaker 3>talk about the way he went out?

648
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, yeah, absolutely, it was such he he died

649
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>standing up.

650
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's like half his face is gone, like okay,

651
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 5>in the anime, his faces as fucked up as in

652
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.000
<v Speaker 5>the manga, which really yeah, two hundred and sixty seven

653
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 5>Sword Wounds, one hundred and fifty two bullets forty six

654
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 5>cannon blasts, but not one shot.

655
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 3>In the back, right, not it was all in the front.

656
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 3>He had not no coward wounds whatsoever. Right, the tattoo

657
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.160
<v Speaker 3>on his back was still as untouched as ever, So

658
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, he went out standing, right, So so yeah, sorry,

659
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:44.240
<v Speaker 3>it's manga a little bit more. Even those were the stats, right.

660
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Even in the anime they read the stats off the yeah,

661
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>not the commentator. What the fuck is the word the narrator.

662
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:51.920
<v Speaker 4>The narrator reads it off.

663
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 1>And it gave me absolute chills.

664
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.359
<v Speaker 3>So I guess Eddie like thoughts on that specifically. I

665
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>know you said his death got to you, probably more

666
00:33:57.960 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 3>than than Aces. I don't know if that was a

667
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.160
<v Speaker 3>shock value or just unexpected, or if I had anything

668
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 3>to do with like how it happened or what.

669
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 1>For me, it just felt like I was able to

670
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>care for for white Beard more than Ace. Ace made

671
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 1>me sad because of Lufy's reaction, But white Beard's death

672
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 1>made me sad because it's like all those kids lost

673
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:23.199
<v Speaker 1>a father, all those all those not kids, they're not kids,

674
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>but like all those that family lost to dad, and

675
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 1>he just just actually like he was the biggest Chad

676
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 1>the biggest monster. What a badass, What a great character,

677
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>but like just actually a good family man like that.

678
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.719
<v Speaker 3>And there's something to be said about his character just

679
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 3>through how others treat him, right, Yeah, he had that

680
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 3>protagonist energy and that uh after you know, people think

681
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 3>he gets betrayed, like he uh he forgets Squald. He

682
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.719
<v Speaker 3>jumps down to face the Marines himself and kind of

683
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 3>joins the battle, and you know, he well, well they

684
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 3>acted like the uh they were only targeting his allied

685
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 3>uh pirates and whatnot, and they weren't targeting his crew.

686
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 3>He destroys the wall of ice to where there's an

687
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 3>open sea there, and he's like anybody that wants to

688
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 3>go go, like, g if you fight with me, you

689
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 3>might very well die, right Like, so yeah, he leads

690
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 3>the charge and like everybody stays.

691
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Nobody nobody leads, right.

692
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>So it also speaks volumes to Sengoku's plan because one

693
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 1>of my things was like, why are they executing a

694
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 1>so publicly? And it was all I feel, it's just

695
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 1>all one big trap right with and up until this point,

696
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the pacifist to Pacifistas either, so like

697
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 1>unleashing that army tracking them in, knowing that everyone was

698
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna come and support white Beard. White Bear was gonna

699
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.360
<v Speaker 1>come to try to save Ace. It was just all

700
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>one big trap. White Beard already knew and walked into

701
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>it too, like it's it was just it's it's so

702
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>much better upon rewatchers picking up these little things.

703
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 3>That was the very start of the mind game too, right,

704
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Like white Beard kind of saw through it and started

705
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 3>attacking the ships on the side. But like as soon

706
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 3>as they entered the place, they were gonna surround with

707
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 3>battleships and uh, basically just encircle everybody, right, so make

708
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:10.079
<v Speaker 3>sure there was no escape route. But uh, but yeah,

709
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:11.920
<v Speaker 3>white Beard, what a what a chad one of the

710
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.119
<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest in anime.

711
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.079
<v Speaker 1>And he ends broke my heart.

712
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Man.

713
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>He also ended off with a bang by saying like

714
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the One Piece is real, just discontinuing the era, like

715
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 1>letting it continue on. Yeah, he like.

716
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Fights until the death, telling everybody else to run, like

717
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 3>he says, this is where I die. And then uh,

718
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.039
<v Speaker 3>then he has the big epic speech of like you

719
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.719
<v Speaker 3>know what, yeah, what the uh the one Piece means

720
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.360
<v Speaker 3>how it's gonna carry on and that it that it

721
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.400
<v Speaker 3>is real, right, so it inspires a whole other generation.

722
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it made me so sad, Like at the

723
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 2>end where everybody is now, like when they got Ace,

724
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Speaker 2>right where everybody's heading out, like you see white Beard

725
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>he's trying to fight everyone off, and like all his

726
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 2>crew's just like come on, like come with the come on,

727
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>we got him already, you need to go. And he's like, no, no, no,

728
00:36:58.679 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll stay here.

729
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a post off at a leave Ace, leave, just

730
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>fucking leave. Not rage baiting, buddy, literally got rage baited.

731
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh speaking of it.

732
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 4>But I was gonna say, speaking of the New Era,

733
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 4>who proclaimed it their era? I know you were wanting to.

734
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Talk about him a little bit earlier, but I didn't

735
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 3>want to cut you off too much.

736
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Wait which one? I'm sorry, please remind me.

737
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:27.400
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, white Beard said it was you know, the

738
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 3>everybody's saying this era was was white Beard, and the

739
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:32.800
<v Speaker 3>new era it was black Beard. He was like, this

740
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.239
<v Speaker 3>is the black Beard era, right like he uh, he

741
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 3>proclaimed that after he took white Beard's power.

742
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 4>He's like, this new new era is going to be mine.

743
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean the world, I mean, I guess

744
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:42.800
<v Speaker 2>we can I don't know if you want to just

745
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.199
<v Speaker 2>segue into like just talking about black Beard, because that's

746
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 2>a whole other let's.

747
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Talk about it. Let's do it.

748
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah we can, I just know earlier jump around.

749
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we do find he comes in at the

750
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>end of this arc. So he he was pretty absent

751
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 2>pretty much throughout the entirety of his arc up until

752
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 2>like the line like a few episodes, but we do

753
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 2>find out why he actually broke into Impel Down, and

754
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>he broke into Impel Down to break out some of

755
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the most dangerous criminals that the world has ever seen,

756
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:22.199
<v Speaker 2>and he brings all of them over into Marine Ford.

757
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if this was confirmed, but at

758
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.679
<v Speaker 2>least this is like what I think would happen. He

759
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 2>was waiting for this to almost end, to be able

760
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:33.559
<v Speaker 2>to make his entrance and to be able to do

761
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>what he did, and like the biggest shock that happened.

762
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 2>One of the biggest shocks was that he was able

763
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>to take Whitebeard's devil fruit, which was absolutely unheard of

764
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.920
<v Speaker 2>in this world up until this point because everybody had

765
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>this kind of info, right, like you can only have

766
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>one devil fruit. If you eat a second one, you

767
00:38:53.880 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 2>will die. So once he eats his double he now

768
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 2>has what the power of the seaquakes as well as

769
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>the dark fruit. He up until it's by everybody's like

770
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 2>he might be as well, might as well be like

771
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the most powerful character in this in this world right now, nobody? Yeah,

772
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.480
<v Speaker 2>he has two really really strong devil fruits, and you

773
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:25.159
<v Speaker 2>see the absolute shock that everybody is like, oh my god,

774
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:26.559
<v Speaker 2>like we don't want to fight him.

775
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Any theories on.

776
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>How I don't know. I just remember I think it

777
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.159
<v Speaker 2>was Lafitte and who put like a like a caper

778
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 2>a blanket over over white Beard, and then black Beer

779
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.480
<v Speaker 2>goes under the blanket. A few minutes later he comes

780
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>out with his devil fruit so completely unscathed.

781
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I guess the reason why they covered him up is

782
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:49.199
<v Speaker 1>because Blackbird doesn't want people to see how he's able

783
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to do what he did.

784
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because if they if people know how to do it,

785
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 2>then the entire world would just go into shambles. Right.

786
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>He wants to be one of the only ones who

787
00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 2>knows how to do this.

788
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I think at the time, what's your theory, Jordan, And.

789
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 3>It's one that I think somebody said kind of during

790
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 3>the arc, right, my theory is that he's just built different.

791
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean a lot of people theorized that

792
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 1>had to do with the devil fruit. Theorized that had

793
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.159
<v Speaker 1>to do with a knife on his on his like

794
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 1>waist or something. But like that he was able to

795
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>get a second power without like suffering the the causes

796
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:25.280
<v Speaker 1>of having two devil fruits or whatever. There's there's multiple

797
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.119
<v Speaker 1>personality theories where he's more than one person. There's so

798
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 1>many things up until this point that people theorized at

799
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>this point in the game. I would just keep them

800
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 1>all in the back of your head.

801
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know, man,

802
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm scared of this man.

803
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.639
<v Speaker 3>It could really be anything, though, because the thing about

804
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:45.400
<v Speaker 3>black Beard is, well you said, everybody's kind of scared

805
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 3>of him because of how powerful two fruits would be,

806
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 3>and one of them being you know, white Beards who

807
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 3>just controlled the seas prior to that. Yeah, he's very

808
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.920
<v Speaker 3>much a plotter and a and a schemer more than anything, right, Like, yes,

809
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 3>he's a rat, he's a snake. He betrayed white Beard,

810
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 3>but then he became a one of the seven warlords

811
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 3>in order to betray them to get in the whistle

812
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 3>down and get those people out and then uh, it

813
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.719
<v Speaker 3>was somebody on his crew that opened the gates for

814
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 3>Loofy and them to go into to Marine Ferd. Right, Yeah,

815
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.639
<v Speaker 3>so it that, you know, they kind of just adding

816
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.280
<v Speaker 3>to the chaos until their time to show up.

817
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 1>So I have a theory.

818
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 4>One of the biggest schemers in anime.

819
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 1>One of the biggest schemers in the anime.

820
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

821
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 1>I honestly I do love black Beard in that in

822
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>that way he actually like has plans and uh and ideas.

823
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 1>But my theory, my theory is that everyone's able to

824
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>eat two devil fruits. It's just there was there's a

825
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:36.800
<v Speaker 1>myth that you die if you do it, and everyone's

826
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.360
<v Speaker 1>been scared to do it since one guy tried and

827
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>he died of a cold the next day, and they're

828
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, can't do it. And Blackbeard's like, I

829
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that shit pulled it off. But he didn't

830
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:48.559
<v Speaker 1>want the world to see because then everyone would start

831
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 1>eating two devil fruits. He wants me to wanted to

832
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>do it.

833
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 3>And if that didn't work, if that's the case and

834
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:55.280
<v Speaker 3>it just didn't work and he actually did die there

835
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 3>that would have been very honest with real areas.

836
00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people were like, oh, it's definitely the knife at

837
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 1>his hip because he didn't want anyone to see it

838
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>with the knife, otherwise everyone would try to steal the knife.

839
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, well, if it's his double fruit,

840
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>everyone will try to kill him and steal a double fruit.

841
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 1>How far are we in Axel we are into Marine

842
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Ford right now.

843
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.159
<v Speaker 3>I will say, as far as the double fruit theory goes,

844
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 3>he did look up specifically, like he was very informed

845
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.679
<v Speaker 3>and knew about that fruit specifically, And it was once

846
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.199
<v Speaker 3>that fruit kind of was actually found that he betrayed

847
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:29.719
<v Speaker 3>white Beard's crew to get that fruit. Right, So the

848
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 3>dark fruit, like that was one he very intentionally got

849
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 3>with the So with how big of a schemer he is,

850
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 3>I see why people would lean towards that one.

851
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>So all right, Poseidon, let's talk about Shanks and the boys.

852
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he was late no, because he actually no,

853
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not mad that he wasn't part of the entirety

854
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of Marine Ford. I mean I feel like he is

855
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 2>a big reason why everything ended. Like Shanks literally was

856
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.559
<v Speaker 2>the one who's like, you guys basically got what you wanted.

857
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 2>You guys wanted Ace dead and now he's dead, Like

858
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:08.119
<v Speaker 2>there's no use fighting anymore. You guys already won, and

859
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>he was the reason why. Like most I think if

860
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 2>everybody was able to get out.

861
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Buddy stopped the war.

862
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 4>He showed up, stopped.

863
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's like black Beard, you want some marines, you

864
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 3>want some like he kind of just called out everybody

865
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:25.960
<v Speaker 3>individually and like, you know.

866
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Was it revealed where he was at this point and

867
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>why he was late. I don't, because we know why,

868
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>but I just don't want to reveal it. If it

869
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been revealed, I can't think of it.

870
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it was.

871
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I know yet.

872
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:45.880
<v Speaker 4>I might hold off on that one.

873
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 1>They mentioned it at the end of the arc. Apparently

874
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>it's mentioned at the end of the arc. So he

875
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>was off fighting Kaido.

876
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the other emperor.

877
00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:01.599
<v Speaker 1>The other Yonko. Yes, so Buddy Holf managed to end

878
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>his fight with Kaido or figure it out and make

879
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 1>it his way to the war and everyone's like, all right,

880
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm done.

881
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean he did a better job at stopping

882
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 4>things than Kobe did, right, Kobe. Kobe was one. He

883
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 4>took one punch from Blue.

884
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we didn't talk about Kobe.

885
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Kobe, Yes, you see him having also very conflicting feelings

886
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>throughout this arc. Him and hel Metal were like we're

887
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 2>out of here initially, right, and you get they do

888
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 2>walk in on. I think it's a kind news because

889
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 2>youki like killing one of the Marines who wants to

890
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 2>also leave. So and then you see like Kobe kind

891
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 2>of flashing back a little bit to his dream of

892
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 2>becoming an admiral and he he gathered the courage to

893
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>stand up to the Marines and this was basically his

894
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:51.559
<v Speaker 2>like one of his growing points right as a character,

895
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that you know, he's like, I'm not going to be

896
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>a coward anymore. I'm not. I didn't. I didn't do

897
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.320
<v Speaker 2>all of this just to run away from a fight

898
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 2>like I'm doing. I have to do my duty as

899
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 2>a marine.

900
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Also that he does also have hockey potential

901
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>as well.

902
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yeah, and yeah we see that he uh,

903
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:15.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, does his duties as a marine and he's

904
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:17.760
<v Speaker 3>not a coward in the fight and whatnot. But then

905
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:19.960
<v Speaker 3>going even further than that, he kind of follows his

906
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>own sense of justice and that he sees that after

907
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Ace is dead, you know, they're still fighting going on,

908
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.039
<v Speaker 3>but it's kind of pointless violence of like the Marines

909
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 3>are just having more and more people die and they

910
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.719
<v Speaker 3>accomplish their goal, right white Beard's dead, Asha is dead,

911
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Like pushing further it's kind of pointless at that point.

912
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he knows that if they stop now, they could

913
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>save so many people that are currently injured like that,

914
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>like you're on the battlefield, like with an arm missing

915
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 1>or like with a hole in their stomach, and they're like,

916
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:46.559
<v Speaker 1>He's like, if we stop now, we could like treat

917
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 1>these people. We achieved our goal. We achieved our goal.

918
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Like there's something to be said about knowing what it's

919
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.679
<v Speaker 3>like to be weak and like being able to or

920
00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:58.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, knowing what it's like to be there at

921
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the ladder and uh being able to

922
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 3>empathize with those people. So I know there's been a

923
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:04.639
<v Speaker 3>there was a special recently where you know, we get

924
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 3>like more of a side story type of view from

925
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 3>like just some of the random soldiers on the Marine

926
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:10.880
<v Speaker 3>side that were in this war.

927
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:13.840
<v Speaker 4>It has to be terrifying, right.

928
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 3>All these these goliaths are colliding, there's explosions, there's fire,

929
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 3>there's lava.

930
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:21.079
<v Speaker 4>There's Ice with a gun.

931
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you're you're You're Joe Smith right there with

932
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 3>a gun, trying to do your darnness right. Your your

933
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:28.480
<v Speaker 3>family lives here at the marine base. You just want

934
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.320
<v Speaker 3>to get back to them. Like like you said, people

935
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 3>were trying to flee there beforehand, but I kind of

936
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:34.480
<v Speaker 3>wasn't having any of that.

937
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:39.960
<v Speaker 4>So mm hmm. So sorry, soapbox again, But we can

938
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:40.679
<v Speaker 4>talk about whatever.

939
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I have one moment I want to talk about. There's

940
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>a moment where Ace finally gets freed. And as much

941
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 1>as like I have been saying, I'm out the biggest

942
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 1>fan of Ace, I do still like him a lot.

943
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.840
<v Speaker 1>And the moment where he gets freed and lands next

944
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>to Loofy, his firepower is like kind of like shadowing

945
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.199
<v Speaker 1>around them. It is shit, And like the happiness and

946
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the dynamic in which they fought, it was just so great,

947
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Like it was just peak. And then you get the

948
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>contrast to what happens moments later or a little later,

949
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:14.199
<v Speaker 1>when he finally gets killed. But like it was just

950
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.559
<v Speaker 1>such good writing where it's like he's not gonna make

951
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna get killed. He's gonna get killed. He's gonna

952
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>get killed, Keep on surviving, Keep on surviving, keeps on surviving. Boom,

953
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>he finally gets released. Happy Happy, Happy, Bam back to set. Like,

954
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.559
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just such top tier writing.

955
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:33.159
<v Speaker 2>It's so sad because I know exactly what you're talking

956
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 2>about that scene, because it actually recently got printed in

957
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 2>the TCG because the newest set coming out. It's it's

958
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 2>centered around the three brothers, and it's the title of

959
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the set is called Carrying on His Will and referring

960
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.679
<v Speaker 2>to Ace. And it's like, oh, I know exactly because

961
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>they reprinted it and they redrew the art.

962
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:55.719
<v Speaker 3>It is so sad too because I know this art

963
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 3>came out like over thirteen years ago or whatever in

964
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.119
<v Speaker 3>the anime, like it's it's been out. But uh, it's

965
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 3>one of those things I, you know, don'nut joke at

966
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:05.599
<v Speaker 3>the start of this podcast aside, I usually try to

967
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.800
<v Speaker 3>spoil for anybody because I remember it hit me so

968
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>hard and then, uh, I feel like it's one of

969
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:12.360
<v Speaker 3>those hardest spoilers to avoid in one piece, right, Like

970
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.320
<v Speaker 3>even when Animac was the Virgin, I remember teching early on,

971
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 3>like mentioning it and then just feeling so bad. Yeah

972
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 3>after uh, and like you said, Poseidon with the TCG,

973
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.519
<v Speaker 3>So things happened, but it's it's one of those where

974
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:26.440
<v Speaker 3>if you're not expecting it, like, uh, it hits you

975
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.400
<v Speaker 3>right after the moment of happiness, right like you said,

976
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:29.440
<v Speaker 3>you're happy he escaped.

977
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.559
<v Speaker 4>There they have this bonding moment and then.

978
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think I was spoiled. I watched it.

979
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I watched this like over a decade ago, probably close

980
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.559
<v Speaker 1>to fifteen years ago. Fourteen years ago at the time,

981
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't wasn't part of any anime community, just watching

982
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it on my fucking flat screen, like like illegally streaming it.

983
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:48.039
<v Speaker 4>Same.

984
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know it hit for me, I remember whenever

985
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 3>because it's so much build up to it too, right,

986
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 3>if nothing else, you feel it from Luke's perspective, right,

987
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 3>like we just fought for this for so many arcs.

988
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.159
<v Speaker 3>We we think we have it and then uh, and no,

989
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.599
<v Speaker 3>Lupy takes the biggest l of the series so far,

990
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 3>right like he Yeah, he does not come out on

991
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 3>top this times.

992
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mentally physically just absolutely destroyed coming out of this

993
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>arc and he was saved by Law. Why was Law there?

994
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember, I honestly don't remember either, but Law

995
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.599
<v Speaker 2>is a huge reason why Loofy is also still like

996
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:24.159
<v Speaker 2>still alive. Like Law, I think there was like some

997
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 2>scenes where you know, they were kind of flashing back

998
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 2>to Saba Odi. Not flashing back, but like you get

999
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 2>to see what's going on from the perspective of the

1000
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 2>people in Saba Odi. And I believe Law was there

1001
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and kids, like most of the super novas, I think

1002
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 2>we're still there, but you kind of see Law kind

1003
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:44.079
<v Speaker 2>of oh my god, like this is this is crazy.

1004
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 2>So he does show up at the end and he's like,

1005
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.480
<v Speaker 2>we need to save Loofy now. Like we get him

1006
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:51.119
<v Speaker 2>in the operating room and we find out that he's

1007
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 2>a doctor. He's he is a surgeon, so he gets

1008
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>his little medical gloves on and starts operating on Loofy

1009
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>while they're trying to escape. Yeah, if he did get

1010
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:02.320
<v Speaker 2>a big scar from.

1011
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 3>I will say he doesn't give a reason, but he

1012
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 3>has asked the reason. He's like, I can come up

1013
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.800
<v Speaker 3>with one if you want one, but because it's a

1014
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 3>Vonkob asking and he's just kind of like, no, I

1015
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 3>like I get it that sometimes people just act instinctively

1016
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 3>or or whatever. So I'm not going to push it

1017
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.559
<v Speaker 3>too hard, right, So we don't have.

1018
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 2>A reason that it's because Law also kind of sees

1019
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the future of like pirates, right and Lufy And maybe

1020
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:28.119
<v Speaker 2>perhaps he saved him because it's like we need him

1021
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 2>to be able to kind of fight against whatever is

1022
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 2>going to happen in the future.

1023
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow, great prediction.

1024
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I feel like the reason why, Like,

1025
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't see another reason why he would save him

1026
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:39.639
<v Speaker 2>other than we need Lufy.

1027
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 1>To be He's he's a planner as a strategist, maybe

1028
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 1>like black Beard make sure new account right. Wow, well,

1029
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.760
<v Speaker 1>very very well done. Poseidon on that one. I will say,

1030
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.159
<v Speaker 1>I can't say that much longer. So let's all talk

1031
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:53.840
<v Speaker 1>about maybe one more thing that we won't that we

1032
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:58.719
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about from this arc. Yes, any ideas, guys?

1033
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Are you talking about A's fuck?

1034
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>That dude body got rage baited?

1035
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:12.400
<v Speaker 2>He did get rage baited. But yeah, I don't know

1036
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:14.760
<v Speaker 2>what did you want to bring up? Well?

1037
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:16.960
<v Speaker 4>I will say one thing about Ace is I felt

1038
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.039
<v Speaker 4>very bad for him this entire arc.

1039
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Because there's one thing to sacrifice yourself and like be

1040
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.000
<v Speaker 3>self sacrificing for others. It's another to have people sacrificing

1041
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.079
<v Speaker 3>themselves for you, Like all the people you care about

1042
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.760
<v Speaker 3>are dying there trying to help you out, and you're

1043
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.679
<v Speaker 3>just begging them not to write. Like you feel so responsible,

1044
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 3>you feel so uh you know, you feel like you're

1045
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 3>the cause of this whole thing, and.

1046
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:40.280
<v Speaker 4>Deep down he still wants to live.

1047
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:44.199
<v Speaker 3>But uh yeah, sitting there watching him go through that

1048
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 3>as like wars and everybody else kind of falls one

1049
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.079
<v Speaker 3>out or the other, it was not easy.

1050
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it wasn't easy to watch, but it was

1051
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a little annoying just watching him. Like I get why

1052
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.559
<v Speaker 1>he turned back to help his dad who came and

1053
00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>saved him. Didn't want to leave people behind that were

1054
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that were dying fighting for his survival. But you finally

1055
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:07.880
<v Speaker 1>got away, leave, leave with your fucking brother.

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00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:09.320
<v Speaker 3>It hurt.

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00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 2>It hurt, dude, Fuck that guy.

1058
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I get it though, Like Ace isn't weak, right, Like

1059
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:16.079
<v Speaker 3>he was asked to be like one of the seven

1060
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Warlords prior to ever joining up with white Beard, like

1061
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 3>two years of past since then, he wasn't a weak guy.

1062
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.199
<v Speaker 3>He in his mind, he wants to be able to

1063
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 3>help those that are like in his direct vicinity, right,

1064
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.320
<v Speaker 3>that care about him, just like they care about him

1065
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.800
<v Speaker 3>he cares about them, right, So I get it, I

1066
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 3>get it.

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00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:33.800
<v Speaker 4>It makes sense. I think it's good writing.

1068
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:44.360
<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, sad nonetheless, Oh anything else, guys.

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00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say one of my favorite moments

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00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.480
<v Speaker 2>from this arc. I believe it was shown that, like

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00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 2>when Whitebeard dies is like a flashback to when white

1072
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Beard was still like a pirate, like on some random

1073
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:59.840
<v Speaker 2>ass crew and everybody's kind of making on the cruis

1074
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:01.800
<v Speaker 2>make fun of him. They're like, what do you dream of?

1075
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And Whitebeard's dream was to have a family, And I'm

1076
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>like he was able to do that, and I, ah, god,

1077
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that's so sad.

1078
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Dude, so sad.

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00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to find the one piece. If white Beer

1080
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>was the main character, he would be about finding friends

1081
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and family along the way. M hmm.

1082
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One of that was one of the the real.

1083
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>One piece, the family made alone in the way one

1084
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:28.760
<v Speaker 1>piece doesn't exist.

1085
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.519
<v Speaker 2>So before we go, I also want to mention because

1086
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I I I I will, I'll keep this short, but

1087
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I frequent book talk a lot because I also read

1088
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 2>like novels outside of this, so a lot of my

1089
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.440
<v Speaker 2>favorite there's been a surgeons in the book talk community,

1090
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 2>all these girlies who read a bunch of smut and

1091
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:53.920
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of like just books, fantasy, romance. They have

1092
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:59.639
<v Speaker 2>all started reading one Piece and it has been the funniest,

1093
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:02.519
<v Speaker 2>like last three weeks. And it was so funny because

1094
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of them will do like updates, we'll read

1095
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of them just finished Romance down and

1096
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 2>they were all like, oh my god, I feel so bad.

1097
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Choo choo the dog. It broke my heart. I was

1098
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:14.039
<v Speaker 2>crying so much. And I'm like, these these girlies are

1099
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:18.039
<v Speaker 2>not ready crying over fucking chu chuo. Oh my god,

1100
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do when you get to water seven?

1101
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:24.239
<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna do when you get to Marine Ford?

1102
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:28.000
<v Speaker 2>So I am looking forward to seeing all the book

1103
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 2>talk girlies continue their one Piece journey because it's reminding

1104
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:33.960
<v Speaker 2>me of how I went through mine. So I just

1105
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:37.119
<v Speaker 2>want to mention that because I think it's it's really funny.

1106
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, we can transition me, dude. It's so funny

1107
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:52.960
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of the comments are like, finally, like

1108
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 2>literate one.

1109
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Piece readers, Oh no.

1110
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my, oh my god, what is that?

1111
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I will say, a lot of weekly chapter reviewers, not

1112
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that they're illiterate in any way it's just they get

1113
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:12.559
<v Speaker 1>so like in depth about stuff that they're so focused

1114
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.079
<v Speaker 1>on the little things that sometimes, like when you're watching

1115
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>someone review something like an entirety of an arc, you

1116
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.079
<v Speaker 1>could like appreciate the actual storytelling of it versus like

1117
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 1>this one panel, Well we could justify that this person's

1118
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>actually probably this strong, and it's like, well what about

1119
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 1>the Like it's all predictions and they're trying to it's

1120
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:33.840
<v Speaker 1>all trying to stretch like one chapter into a twenty

1121
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:37.519
<v Speaker 1>minute YouTube video, and it's just so funny. So I

1122
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:39.559
<v Speaker 1>see where the criticism sometimes comes from.

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00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's been great. I really There's this girl

1124
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I have to find her user name. Her name is Carla.

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00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I was actually following her for quite some time before

1126
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 2>she started reading one Piece and she got like all

1127
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.159
<v Speaker 2>the book Talker released too, So yeah, I will, I

1128
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:57.519
<v Speaker 2>will let you know how how they go. But read,

1129
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>they mostly most of them finished Romance down and they're

1130
00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>all crying over the dog. So I'm like, oh boy,

1131
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait till they get to Drum Island.

1132
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Let's go look at the times.

1133
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, book book talk girly that like started watching somebody.

1134
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 4>Else is just oh and along let's go.

1135
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the post war, I don't think it's that

1136
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:24.119
<v Speaker 1>many episodes. I think it's less than twenty episodes. I

1137
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 1>would like to do that for a future a future week,

1138
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 1>just all of the post war.

1139
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:33.599
<v Speaker 2>If I also watch a little bit of, uh, the

1140
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:37.800
<v Speaker 2>backstory of a least Sabo and Loofy. I'm in the

1141
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 2>middle of that right now. But I also understand there's like, uh, yeah,

1142
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.159
<v Speaker 2>the post war right after that. So if you just

1143
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 2>give me, like what episode I need to get to,

1144
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you.

1145
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Know, five sixteen, five sixteen.

1146
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Every five hundred right now, so maybe I can for

1147
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:56.280
<v Speaker 2>sure get there in like two weeks.

1148
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think post war kind of yeah, captures what

1149
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:02.119
<v Speaker 4>you're doing and then basically just everything for for a

1150
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:02.559
<v Speaker 4>little bit.

1151
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, going on with the straw hats. It kind of

1152
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like brings a bunch of stuff together. Absolutely. Actually, you're

1153
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 1>welcome on any time, my friend. Truly. You're always a

1154
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.360
<v Speaker 1>great addition, especially for one piece, very knowledgeable for that.

1155
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah about one piece.

1156
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe. Yeah, the Poles War is next, and it's

1157
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:21.719
<v Speaker 1>up to five hundred and sixteen for everyone wondering, I

1158
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 1>gotta go to hockey training now, so I do need

1159
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to run. I hope everyone enjoyed this episode. Thank you

1160
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>so much for Sidon for doing this with us.

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00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Jordan's the he's training his uh, his observation and whatnot,

1162
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:35.400
<v Speaker 3>like he has conquerors.

1163
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:36.159
<v Speaker 4>All right, that was.

1164
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Already hockey training. Imagine I was walking to the chaining

1165
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:46.079
<v Speaker 1>room for like the training these kids in hockey. It's like, okay,

1166
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:47.639
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to train them the way to trade.

1167
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Actually a spoiler, I can't even say that, Oh Joe.

1168
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:57.280
<v Speaker 4>You can't. I know, next time on One Piece Virgin.

1169
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Alright, later, guys, shimpal and I'll see you all next time.

1170
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:04.239
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, guys. Bye boy,