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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Billy Cunningham, the great American. Welcome this Tuesday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>in the Tri State Reds baseball kicks off about six

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<v Speaker 1>oh five. Lousy game last night, and as an old

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<v Speaker 1>pitcher myself who pitched for Thomas Funeral Home, Deer Park,

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<v Speaker 1>Ponykeg and Zava University, it appears obvious to me that

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Burns was tipping his pitches much like Randy Johnson did.

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<v Speaker 1>But he didn't have Randy Johnson's stuff. That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he got one out, gave up about sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand runs Chase Burns. But someone's got to get to Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell whether it was a fastball or an

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<v Speaker 1>off speed pitch by the way he held his hand

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<v Speaker 1>inside of his glove. If I could figure it out,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I think the other team, the Red Sox,

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<v Speaker 1>can figure it out. All the action starts about six

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<v Speaker 1>oh five tonight. Let's see what occurs. Jonan, you and

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<v Speaker 1>I now as Senator Steve Huffman from the Tips City area.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Tip City things a little north of Dayton,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's one of the great senators in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio. As you may know. By midnight last night,

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<v Speaker 1>the governor VETOED sixty seven, the all time high vetos

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<v Speaker 1>inside the omnibus spending package for the next two years.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the House and the Senate's got to decide

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<v Speaker 1>if they can override the veto and Joan, you and

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<v Speaker 1>I now are Senator Steve Huffman and Senator welcome again

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<v Speaker 1>to the bill. Cunningham shows just procedurally here we are

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit a little bit afternoon on Tuesday. How

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<v Speaker 1>much time do you have to override the veto? Can

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<v Speaker 1>they be overridden? Give the American people a full report.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Constitution says that any VITA override has to

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<v Speaker 2>originate in the chamber that the bill originated in. So

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<v Speaker 2>this was is a House bill, House Bill ninety six,

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<v Speaker 2>So the House has to initiate any veto override and

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<v Speaker 2>it can go to the end of this General Assembly.

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<v Speaker 2>So till the Mike d Wines last day in twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>the December thirty first, twenty six, we could override that detO.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got a year and a.

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<v Speaker 1>Half, you got plenty of So there's no emergency this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>this afternoon, tonight, tomorrow morning. There's no emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct. It is just making good policy and

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<v Speaker 2>deciding which one of the sixty seven, if any, that

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<v Speaker 2>we want to overturn.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I understand it takes sixty in the House, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate, which is about a little more than

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of each house. The Republicans control everything. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about specifics. The governor did not veto the part

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<v Speaker 1>of the unplaim funds that give to the Browns, like

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred million dollars in order to start a project

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<v Speaker 1>in southern Cayhua County. The Bengals are kind of left

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<v Speaker 1>out from the larch at this point. What is your position,

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<v Speaker 1>your view as a powerful state senator about the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>getting that kind of money fund unplaying funds and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals at this point getting nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't say the Bengals don't get anything. It

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<v Speaker 2>says it gives them an opportunity in the future going

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<v Speaker 2>forward to ask for those unplayed funds, and it sets

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<v Speaker 2>up a set of rules and guidelines that they can

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<v Speaker 2>or the soccer team or if theaters and other things

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<v Speaker 2>can also look at getting those funds in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like down here though, you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>halfway in a sense. But if you're a Bengals fan,

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<v Speaker 1>as many of us are, we feel as if we're

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<v Speaker 1>not being treated the same as the Browns. But having

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with this issue the last couple of weeks, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the case correct that the Bengals have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to apply. By the way, there's no deal at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the media went nuts, but there's an LOI

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<v Speaker 1>that has about another month ago for the two parties

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<v Speaker 1>that come together, and at this point there's no deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So it would be required that the Bengals to County

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<v Speaker 1>whatever NFL have a deal deal, then go to the state.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for those who say, wait a minute, you're

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<v Speaker 1>treating the Bengals unfairly, what would you say.

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<v Speaker 2>I would disagree. Like I said, it sets it in motion.

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<v Speaker 2>The deal in Cincinnati is not fully dated, right the

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<v Speaker 2>one right, it is fully baked, yes, and it gives

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities going forward for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Who makes the decision. Let's say the deal comes together

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<v Speaker 1>by I don't know August first, there is a deal,

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<v Speaker 1>deal and there's a missing three hundred million dollars. I

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<v Speaker 1>would think that's not a checks in the mail situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Who actually makes the deal whether to give the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>of the county the three hundred and sixty million.

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<v Speaker 2>Who makes that decision, I'm not sure, but I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Department of Commerce that would make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>all the ducks are in a row and everything's in

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<v Speaker 2>line to make that decision, and then it would ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>go to the Controlling Board for approval.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's deal with the flat tax. If

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<v Speaker 1>you make twenty six thousand dollars a year or less,

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<v Speaker 1>you pay no state income tax. In fact, if you

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<v Speaker 1>make one hundred thousand dollars a year, on the first

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six thousand you pay zero, and then after that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a flat tax. And the governor did not veto

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<v Speaker 1>last night the flat tax. Do you like that idea

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<v Speaker 1>or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I introduced that bill six years ago, I think

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<v Speaker 2>in every General Assembly since. So yes, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives about one point four billion dollars in tax relief.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know what people are going to say that

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's for the rich. But this is the

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<v Speaker 2>next step to progress to a zero tax, to start

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<v Speaker 2>marching that two point seventy five down every two years

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<v Speaker 2>in the budget un till we can get to zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's deal with the issue of the real estate taxes

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<v Speaker 1>with so many in our community is very concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure in Miami County the same situation is true,

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<v Speaker 1>that people are outraged about the evaluations of their property

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that every time they turn around, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an in co it or an implicit value they have

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have in their hands. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a home worth two hundred thousand dollars and the county

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<v Speaker 1>comes in and says every three years and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth three hundred thousand dollars, you might say, well, where's

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<v Speaker 1>the where's my one undred thousand dollars? I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the money. It's in co it, it's implicit, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>passive thing. I don't have the money. I haven't sold it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when the real estate tax thing gets on

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot, which likely will be next May, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they'll have time get the signatures by November.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a two line entry should we eliminate state

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<v Speaker 1>real estate taxes? Most people are going to vote yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that happens, now we've got a crisis. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this is somewhat speculative. If it gets on the ballot,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think well, I'm not going to sign the petition.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to encourage people not to sign it. But

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<v Speaker 1>if they do, so be it. If the state eliminates

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<v Speaker 1>real estate taxes and the state eliminates state income taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>one might say, where do we get the money to

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<v Speaker 1>run government?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and I agree with you. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to support to getting rid of that ballot initiative. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a couple of weeks ago, you had Representative

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas on and I was listening, and you found it

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<v Speaker 2>found it hard not to laugh when you got to

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<v Speaker 2>the point he said, well, what's the local sales tax

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<v Speaker 2>going to look like? And he said eighteen to twenty percent?

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<v Speaker 2>And you found it hard to keep your emotions and

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<v Speaker 2>you felt that was so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, the reason it's bad is that because we're

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<v Speaker 1>a border community, and Miami County Little is not too

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<v Speaker 1>far from Indiana. But here in Cincinnati, I'm as close

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<v Speaker 1>to Covington as I am the King's Island. I can

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<v Speaker 1>just go to Covington and buy a car, by furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>do my commerce in Covington. I don't have to. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to buy anything in Hamlin County.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and that's why I don't think that it

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<v Speaker 2>will pass. But we do need to get property tax relief.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what the governor vetoed here. So it

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<v Speaker 2>started in the House in the Senate at thirty percent,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Senate said, no, it's fifty percent. That a

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<v Speaker 2>school district can only have thirty forty fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>their operating on cash. There's school districts out there that

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<v Speaker 2>carry one hundred, one hundred and twenty five hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent in cash. And you know, there was one

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<v Speaker 2>one school board member testified in the Senate and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we made eight million dollars in interest last

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<v Speaker 2>year in the cash sitting in the bank. And the

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<v Speaker 2>senator asked them, so shouldn't that interest go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the tax payers? Can't they have it in their bank account?

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<v Speaker 2>And to me, that's really powerful to say, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you hoarding all this money? And there's sometimes good readings

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<v Speaker 2>to put a new rough on and pay cash or

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<v Speaker 2>build a new building or something, and the bill would

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<v Speaker 2>have allowed for that, but just for these schools to

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<v Speaker 2>hoard billions and billions of dollars when we could provide

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<v Speaker 2>tax relief. Bitta Vita, I think that is more likely

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<v Speaker 2>one of the very first one that's that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get getting overhead. And when we come back in September.

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<v Speaker 1>For those who may not be inside baseball, the bill

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<v Speaker 1>allows for forty percent carry over. Anything more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that, let's the school district budget to say,

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<v Speaker 1>just come up with, say ten million dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 1>and they collect fourteen million dollars from the taxpayers. They

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<v Speaker 1>put the four million dollars into a savings account, and

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<v Speaker 1>they spend the ten million, and then that forty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>that four million dollars is sitting out there. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>next year they spend another ten million dollars, they collect

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen Suddenly they have eight million dollars in the savings account.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Senator Huffman, your point is why not

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<v Speaker 1>return that eight million dollars to the taxpayer instead of

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<v Speaker 1>getting into a savings account. And you and the lawmakers said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the most can carry over is forty percent, no more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. There are some districts they carry over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. And the governor vetoed that, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty sure you can override that veto and restrain

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<v Speaker 1>these school boards at forty percent. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But we also put in there that you can

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<v Speaker 2>put money in a special fund for a capital improvement,

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<v Speaker 2>so that you know you need a new world and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to pay cash, you can start storing some

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<v Speaker 2>money in that special accounts and be able to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that rewards, you know, you know, financially

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<v Speaker 2>smart school districts that need things and don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the voters and go get a new levee

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for that that new rough or other things.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in a community with fourteen special levees. Hamil

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<v Speaker 1>in the County has fourteen special levees for everything from

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<v Speaker 1>mentally retarded to which is a term they use, not me,

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<v Speaker 1>those are mentally challenged. Also, the welcome wagon, the food.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an indignt levy at UC Medical Center. We

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<v Speaker 1>have free lawyers, we have free doctors. We also have

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<v Speaker 1>library funds and the zoo fund, and senior citizens, a

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<v Speaker 1>welcome We got everything going on. And I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in Miami County, for example, you may not have

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<v Speaker 1>all these special levees. We have them here. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>get on to hamp in marijuana. There were many concerns

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<v Speaker 1>over the last several months. That's certain of these so

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<v Speaker 1>called CBD products are being sold in like service stations

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<v Speaker 1>are being sold, popping up everywhere by him CBD, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>these pills, all that kind of stuff. And you have

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<v Speaker 1>a bill. What's the status of your hemp CBD bill?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so it goes along with marijuana. Senate Bill fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six that the Senate passed out was to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>reform some of those things. Public consumption, driving, smoking in

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<v Speaker 2>a moving vehicle was fifty six eighty six. Senabel eighty

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<v Speaker 2>six was all about himp passingusly out of the Senate

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<v Speaker 2>two two and a half months ago, and sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>to combine the two and I thought we had an

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<v Speaker 2>agreement on hemp. We hadn't talked about it in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months, and we were hashing out the final

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<v Speaker 2>details of the marijuana and last week they were scheduled

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<v Speaker 2>for a vote.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've.

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<v Speaker 2>Figured out they didn't have the votes because about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>members twenty members of the Republican TALKUS feels that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a different direction to go in, meaning that the Senate

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<v Speaker 2>bill would put camp products that are intoxicating than dispensaries

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<v Speaker 2>because they're intoxicating, right, And these house members felt that

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<v Speaker 2>it would be better to leave in the retail stores

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<v Speaker 2>with a verification of twenty one and over all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so that's still pending. Let's talk about public consumption marijuana.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had many complaint, especially in Cincinnati, walking around Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Park where my family has deep inroads into the soil

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington Park, Cincinnati, publicly consuming marijuana. It happens all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I don't know about your neck of the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>but in urban areas behind if you're behind a car

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<v Speaker 1>with the windows open, you smell it. You can be

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<v Speaker 1>You can walk around downtown Cincinnati smoking openly marijuana, no

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<v Speaker 1>problem whatsoever. No police stay a damn thing. So the

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<v Speaker 1>argument about public consumption is that a canard. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>something that's real because you can't allegedly publicly consume it now,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not enforced. And I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 1>have a law if law makers and the police refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce a known law because it's that their political

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<v Speaker 1>leadership tell them not to do it. We live in

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<v Speaker 1>a city where the mayor and the city manager both

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<v Speaker 1>tell the police do not enforce certain laws. Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>the recipe for chaos?

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<v Speaker 2>It's certainly, it certainly is. And I agree with you that.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I don't care if you public consume a

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<v Speaker 2>gummy bear or a brownie. It doesn't affect me. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't affect the children. But the combustion one and the

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<v Speaker 2>smell of it and everything like that. And to explain

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<v Speaker 2>to your small children what marijuana is and what it's doing,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is bad. And so you know eighty six

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<v Speaker 2>is you could only do it on your private premise,

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<v Speaker 2>in your house, in your backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, if you're an adult, but do it privately. And

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<v Speaker 1>another thing, you're a doctor. You're a physician, Medical College

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio, University of Toledo. I got my law degree there.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's just a sense that there's a breakdown of

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<v Speaker 1>law and order. That broken windows theory applied to New

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<v Speaker 1>York City. And I see our major cities collapsing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we can have a great nation if

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<v Speaker 1>we have ten to twenty the largest cities in this

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<v Speaker 1>country are in complete collapse with riots and open air

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<v Speaker 1>drug use, fornication, urination, defecation, we have homeless encampments. Just philosophically,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're kind of a small town guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I look around at Washington, DC, or New York or Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, and I look at these magnificent, opulent cities

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<v Speaker 1>and collapse, and I'm thinking, can we be a great

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<v Speaker 1>nation with no major functioning city? These uh currently that

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<v Speaker 1>that have good public schools and there's lots of jobs

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<v Speaker 1>out there doing their job. Just as a father and

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a physician, do you have long term

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, especially with the major cities, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>government officials. I mean, I think, especially here in the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Ohio, from the overall, from the state standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, making good policy, but I think often those

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<v Speaker 2>cities are are are are it's it's poor policy from

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<v Speaker 2>the local officials, from from the mayorage to the city

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<v Speaker 2>councils that give direction to the police officers. Don't arrest

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<v Speaker 2>these people, don't don't enforce these laws. Or uh, different

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not good, but all right, we got to run.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm kind of surprised to learn you had about

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half to override Vetos. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>long time in practicality. Shouldn't it happen the next thirty

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<v Speaker 1>next two years.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna it certainly won't happen in the next

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<v Speaker 2>thirty I don't think we're gonna call special session. We're

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<v Speaker 2>would expect that at the least September and October. Whatever

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna override, we're gonna, we're gonna do. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna Knowing my cousin Matt, he doesn't like things to faster,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll come back. We'll initiate the veto override and

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<v Speaker 2>first thing in September early October, and we'll be done

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<v Speaker 2>with it. But we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Senator Steve Huffman of Tips City, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and

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<v Speaker 1>have a great Fourth of July weekend coming up. Thank you, Senator.

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<v Speaker 1>All right Billy Cunning in the Great America. Let's continue

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<v Speaker 1>now writes, baseball kicks off about six oh five tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully the Red starting pitcher will not tip his pitches.

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