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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host, deb.

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<v Speaker 2>Boen, and I'm Samantha Fay.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited that you have joined us this week

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<v Speaker 1>for a really interesting topic which we're going to dive

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<v Speaker 1>into in just a minute. But before we do, I

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<v Speaker 1>is on my website, Debboen dot com. So let's dive in.

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha, Okay, I'm very excited for today's topic. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be exploring one of divination's most ancient arts, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's called lithomancy, which is basically just using crystals as

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<v Speaker 2>a divination tool. So we're going to share some history

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<v Speaker 2>and some techniques for this practice, but we're also hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you some practical and good exercises and

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<v Speaker 2>tips that you can start using with your crystals today.

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<v Speaker 2>So settle in, clear your mind, and prepare to discover

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<v Speaker 2>a whole new metaphysical tool. So lithomancy at its core

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<v Speaker 2>is divination through stones. The word merges the Greek lithos,

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<v Speaker 2>which means stone, with mantilla, which means prophecy. It falls

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<v Speaker 2>under the umbrella of casting and drawing lots, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to distinguish between casting lots, where the fall of

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<v Speaker 2>the pattern is red, and drawing lots, which is where

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<v Speaker 2>the choice is read. This is a different process called sortilage. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this type of divination casting of lots has been practiced forever.

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<v Speaker 2>The old most evidence for divination using stones or pebbles

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<v Speaker 2>appears in Mesopotamian omen literature, dating as early as three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand b c. Clay tablets describe methods of casting and

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<v Speaker 2>interpreting small objects, usually stones, to answer questions posed to deities.

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<v Speaker 2>Several African divination systems use shells, bones, stones, or nuts

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<v Speaker 2>in their casting rituals. In the Middle East, geomancy, which

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<v Speaker 2>means divination of the earth, has appeared historically connected to

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<v Speaker 2>casting stones or drawing dots in the sand, and some

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<v Speaker 2>Persian folk traditions involve casting small stones or beads to

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<v Speaker 2>answer yesno, or directional questions. In some Japanese folk practices,

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<v Speaker 2>pebbles tossed before roadside shrines were used to determine fortune

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<v Speaker 2>or seek spiritual guidance. Really interesting to think about how

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<v Speaker 2>this has gone back for millennia.

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<v Speaker 1>It truly is. And I just have to say that

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<v Speaker 1>when we first started talking about doing this topic, the

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<v Speaker 1>word lithoto mean means like lithography, which makes me think

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<v Speaker 1>of lithographic printing, and I had to wrap my head

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<v Speaker 1>around this topic in an entirely different way in which

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<v Speaker 1>I have done and I've learned so much. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>from throwing bones and shells or to casting runs and

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<v Speaker 1>even arrows. We've been looking into these tools like these

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<v Speaker 1>that help with answers and clarity. For millennia people have

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<v Speaker 1>been doing that. There's even a casting technique called mom

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<v Speaker 1>which is a Tibetan divination method where balls of dough

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<v Speaker 1>containing possible answers or options written on paper are mixed

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<v Speaker 1>and one is selected. And it's said that this has

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<v Speaker 1>even been used by the Dalai Lama from making decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Lithomantha has been practiced in various forms worldwide, from tossing

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<v Speaker 1>pebbles into water to casting marked crystals on cloth. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>John Saint Germaine, in his book on Lithomancy, describes this

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<v Speaker 1>divination tool as quote the art of interpreting the patterns

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<v Speaker 1>and meanings of stones to reveal truths, guidance, and possibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're using ordinary river pebbles or luminous gemstones, the

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<v Speaker 1>stones serve as mirrors reflecting the energies at play in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>While crystal gazing is perhaps more well known today, lithomancy

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<v Speaker 2>has an equally rich, if slightly less documented history. Its

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<v Speaker 2>roots stretch back to ancient civilizations across the globe, so

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<v Speaker 2>as we've said, you can see it in ancient Greece,

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<v Speaker 2>roam even ancient sumer with evidence suggesting that stones were

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<v Speaker 2>chosen for theirmbolic resonance or physical qualities. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of historical accounts that mentioned the use of a white

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<v Speaker 2>stone for yes and a blackstone for no in judicial divination.

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<v Speaker 2>In ancient Persia, a form of lithomancy used twelve stones

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<v Speaker 2>to represent the zodiac or the twelve months of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>each stone's position offering insight into one's fate. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we found this, which I thought was really interesting, in

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<v Speaker 2>the Encyclopedia of Religion.

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<v Speaker 1>It says the.

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<v Speaker 2>Throwing of lots with the yes and no stones kept

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<v Speaker 2>in the priest apron was accepted as a means of

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<v Speaker 2>discerning the divine will. The priest apron was called an

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<v Speaker 2>ephod and was mentioned several times in the Bible. Lithomancy

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<v Speaker 2>is referenced in the Book of Exodus, chapter twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>verse thirty, when Moses says to his brother Aaron, who

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<v Speaker 2>also was a high priest, to keep the stones, which

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<v Speaker 2>were called Urim and Thummin, on his breastplate, so they

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<v Speaker 2>may be quote over AARONI heart whenever he enters the

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<v Speaker 2>presence of the Lord. Thus Aaron will always bear the

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<v Speaker 2>means of making decisions for the Israelites over his heart

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<v Speaker 2>before the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you not love to have seen that breastplate of

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<v Speaker 1>the priests that we hear and read about in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you hear. I've read in so many of

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<v Speaker 2>my crystal books where they're like, this was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the twelve crystals in the breastplate, And I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder that too. Melody actually writes a lot about that.

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<v Speaker 1>She does. Yes, I don't know how they know that

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<v Speaker 1>other than exactly this. It comes from having disinformation coming

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<v Speaker 1>from biblical texts.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, Yes, and I think melody says, it's from

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<v Speaker 2>the descriptions of the stones that they've been able to

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<v Speaker 2>discern or deduce. Oh, they must be talking about Emerald,

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<v Speaker 2>or they must be talking about a jasper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating. We don't know, we don't, but we do know.

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<v Speaker 1>We can find other examples of lithomancy in the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>as well. For example, in the Book of Proverbs, chapter eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>verse eighteen, it says to cast lots puts an end

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<v Speaker 1>to disputes and decides between powerful contenders. In the Book

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<v Speaker 1>of Jonah, after a ship's crew is talsed about after

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<v Speaker 1>a storm, it's written, then the sailor said to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>come let us cast lots to find out who is

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for this calamity. European practitioners in the Middle Ages

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<v Speaker 1>often use stones gathered from sacred sites, river beds, or crossroads,

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<v Speaker 1>believing these locales imbued the stone with spiritual powers. Many

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<v Speaker 1>ancient cultures believe that stones, being part of the earth,

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<v Speaker 1>held memory and energy, a direct connection to the planet's consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>They were seen as miniature libraries of cosmic wisdom. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that I think they still are, but I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>In these times Lithomancy was often a secretive practice, woven

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<v Speaker 1>into folk magic and passed discreetly through generations, especially among

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<v Speaker 1>cunning folk and wise women. And I just have to

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<v Speaker 1>say somethanth that this reminds me of my trip to

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<v Speaker 1>stone Hinge and Cornwall and one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do was to bring back a small piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the same kind of stone that is connected to

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<v Speaker 1>Stone Hinge and two kinds of stones actually, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be able to do that. And if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>remembering correctly, I brought you back a piece and Joe time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have that need and desire to deb but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not always a good need or desire. So as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I love to go to the beach and

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<v Speaker 2>collect smooth stones. And I've had this idea of making

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<v Speaker 2>my own set of runds, so I bought my drum

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<v Speaker 2>all kit and I've been trying to practice. It's way

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<v Speaker 2>harder than you would think, at least for me and

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<v Speaker 2>my left handedness. But when I was in Europe with

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<v Speaker 2>Michael on my honeymoon, I had this idea. I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if I find a small stone wherever we're visiting, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to you know, collect it. And so if we're

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<v Speaker 2>just walking down the street or in a park or

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<v Speaker 2>what have you, and I saw a flat, smooth stone,

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<v Speaker 2>I would pick it up. Well, then we go to

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<v Speaker 2>Delo's Island, that four thousand year old island off of Mikino's,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're on this really fascinating tour and the woman

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<v Speaker 2>tour guide she says, do you see all those flat

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<v Speaker 2>terra cotta like brown stones that you're walking over? These

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<v Speaker 2>are four thousand year old stone shards and we're just

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<v Speaker 2>not removing them. We're leaving them there for the tourist.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what it took in me not to

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<v Speaker 2>take one of those pieces?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot? I would imagine a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I kept looking down and Michael goes, no, don't

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<v Speaker 2>even think I know what you're thinking. No, you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>take a sacred stone.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, but you know it is tempting. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think what I like about the research that we did

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<v Speaker 2>for this episode when it showed me it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be a super seven stone. It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a sugar light, it doesn't have to be a

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<v Speaker 2>Herkimer diamond. It can be stones that you have picked

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<v Speaker 2>up as you're walking the beach or walking a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>wooded trail. It could be a stone from your driveway.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter. It's all about what resonates for you

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<v Speaker 2>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely true. I was talking to a group recently about

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<v Speaker 1>what we value and why we value the items in

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<v Speaker 1>our house, for example, and so they asked me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what rocks would you grab if your house was burning down?

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<v Speaker 1>And my answer was so immediate, I thought, Wow, where

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<v Speaker 1>did that come from? I have a necklace that has

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<v Speaker 1>three stones on it. It has Oh I love what necklace.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that necklace too, and it has on it

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<v Speaker 1>a faddening clothed Clear Courts. It has a moonstone in

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful setting, and it has a metamorphosis Courts on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it does everything you needed to do. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>really need any other rocks, really, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just have certain rocks that you just

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<v Speaker 2>completely jive with. But if you do want to use

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<v Speaker 2>crystals for lithomancy, there are some ones that throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>years have been chosen, and of course one of these

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<v Speaker 2>is clear Courts, which is my all time favorite stone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always been valued for its ability to amplify intention

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<v Speaker 2>energy and clarity, and it's often used as the seer

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<v Speaker 2>stone we know, like reading a crystal ball. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there's amethyst, which has long been revered as a stone

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<v Speaker 2>of intuition and spiritual insight. It's been linked with the

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<v Speaker 2>prophetic arts in both ancient Greece but also in modern

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<v Speaker 2>practices as well. Deb and I always call Amethys the

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<v Speaker 2>all healer because it really does do so many things.

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<v Speaker 2>Jasper is a great one to add to your lithomancy bag.

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<v Speaker 2>It's favored for grounding and stability. This was a commonly

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<v Speaker 2>included stone in the Medieval Ages for protection and decision making. Agit,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great for balance and harmony, and in some

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<v Speaker 2>ancient tradition, specific forms of agate, like the eye agots,

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<v Speaker 2>were considered especially potent for warding off negative influences. You

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<v Speaker 2>could also put jet or amber in your bag. In

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<v Speaker 2>medieval Europe, these were often included for their connection to

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<v Speaker 2>the afterlife and spirit communication. Carnelian is great because it

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<v Speaker 2>incorporates courage, creativity, vitality, motivation, and it's often chosen for

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<v Speaker 2>readings about personal power or overcoming obstacles. And then of

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<v Speaker 2>course obsidian, which is used for revealing shadow work. It's

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<v Speaker 2>known as the truth teller stone, so that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a great one, But you do want to work on

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<v Speaker 2>building your own set that really resonates for you, because

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<v Speaker 2>some of these stones are going to mean different things

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<v Speaker 2>for you, right, Like, personally, I don't look at Carnelian

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<v Speaker 2>as a stone for overcoming obstacles. I know the book

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<v Speaker 2>say that, and I'm sure that is something Carnelian does

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<v Speaker 2>for me. It's always a stone about being your own cheerleader,

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<v Speaker 2>out to the world, and really breaking through some creativity blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>So if a Carnelian showed up in a lithomancy reading

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it would instantly be more about owning your

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<v Speaker 2>creativity and your voice and your truth and really feeling

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable standing in your own light. So you have to

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<v Speaker 2>make this set your own based on what the stones

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really important because we're going to get questions

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<v Speaker 1>from listeners going what kind of jasper, what color aged right? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly the point. What works for you? What

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<v Speaker 2>I think a good place to start would be seven

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<v Speaker 2>Stones and I always recommend seven stones to represent each

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<v Speaker 2>of the seven chakras because then you'll know exactly root

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<v Speaker 2>chakra is about family, grounding, protection, overcoming money worries, So

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<v Speaker 2>any red, brown, or black stone could be in your

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<v Speaker 2>bag to indicate that. And then the orange stone about vitality, creativity, fertility,

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<v Speaker 2>sex issues, body image issues would represent that. Any yellowstone

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<v Speaker 2>for courage. Third, you know, I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 2>through all the chakras, but don't you think that's an

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<v Speaker 2>easy place to start, especially if you know the chakras.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and I cannot imagine not having a chakra set.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great if you have a chakra set. You can

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<v Speaker 2>use it for chakra balancings and clearings, you can use

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<v Speaker 2>it in grid work, but you can also use it

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<v Speaker 2>to do your very own crystal reading. But you do

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<v Speaker 2>want to assign a word or an aspect to each

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<v Speaker 2>of the stones. So for example, green aventurine can represent luck,

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<v Speaker 2>rose quords for love, hematite for protection, amethyst to represent

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<v Speaker 2>your spirit and your connection to spirit, citrine for success

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<v Speaker 2>and abundance, angelite to represent help from guides and angels

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<v Speaker 2>or pray nighte for health and healing. So those are

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<v Speaker 2>just some examples.

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<v Speaker 1>And ask these stones to be willing to do the

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<v Speaker 1>work you ask them to do that they do naturally. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, green aventine for luck. Well, when you find

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of green aventterine that you're going to include,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, in your seventh set, ask it to help

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<v Speaker 1>you with finding luck and opportunity in your life. Spend

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<v Speaker 1>some time with each of these stones. You know we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to say meditate, right, Spend some time with each

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<v Speaker 1>of these stones, really connecting with the intent of the

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you engage a relationship with your stones.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right now.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're starting out with lethamancy. You can decide if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to pull your stones one at a time

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<v Speaker 2>from a bag or if you want to toss them

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<v Speaker 2>onto a cloth, so you have two options either way.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have a designated cloth for your readings. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have one, you can use a clean hand towel,

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<v Speaker 2>but a designated cloth is a nice idea. It could

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<v Speaker 2>be a scarf, it could be a printed cloth with

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<v Speaker 2>a crystal grid pattern on it, or a simple circle

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<v Speaker 2>is nice. That way, you know to read the stones

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<v Speaker 2>that fall inside the circle as very relevant to your question,

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<v Speaker 2>and the stones that fall out of the circle symbolize

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<v Speaker 2>issues you might be ignoring or aren't relevant to the question.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess what we're trying to say is you

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<v Speaker 2>can be very simplistic about this, pull three stones to

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<v Speaker 2>represent past, present, future, or pull three stone owns to

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<v Speaker 2>represent the problem, the obstacles and the outcome. Or you

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<v Speaker 2>can get an elaborate cloth. I mean, just go on

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<v Speaker 2>Etsy for example and type in this and you'll find

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of fantastic pre printed cloths that have the

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<v Speaker 2>zodiac on them, that have just one circle, that have

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<v Speaker 2>the directions northeast southwest. So it's up to you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what's so nice about this type of

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<v Speaker 2>divination tool is there are rules, but there aren't a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of rules. It's really about learning to rely on

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<v Speaker 2>your own intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>So where the stones fall is super important. Where they

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<v Speaker 1>fall in the cloth, It's not just about what stones fall,

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<v Speaker 1>but how they fall. For example, proximity, which stones are

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<v Speaker 1>close together, do they form clusters or patterns? Distance, what

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<v Speaker 1>stones are far apart? Orientation Is a stone pointing towards another,

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<v Speaker 1>is it face up or face down? And where is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it inside the circle? Which fall outside the circle?

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine you've asked this question, what guidance do I need

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<v Speaker 1>regarding a difficult decision I'm facing at work. If a

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<v Speaker 1>hematite representing protection or a warning falls prominently in the

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<v Speaker 1>center of the circle, with a red stone near it

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<v Speaker 1>and a smooth white stone just outside the circle, slightly separated,

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<v Speaker 1>you can interpret this as you are currently facing a

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<v Speaker 1>significant challenge at work, signified by the hematite and a

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<v Speaker 1>need for protection. This situation requires immediate and perhaps assertive

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<v Speaker 1>action represented by the red stone nearby, and the path

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<v Speaker 1>to clarity and a new beginning, as symbolized by the

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<v Speaker 1>white stone, is within reach, but it requires you to

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<v Speaker 1>step outside of your current comfort zone or perspective with

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<v Speaker 1>the meaning because the white stone is outside the circle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful dance between intuitive insight, symbolic meaning and

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<v Speaker 1>the seemingly random placement of stones. And it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>to remember that this is about you and your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with these stones. So you should consider creating a legend

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<v Speaker 1>we call it, or a list of meanings for each

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<v Speaker 1>of those stones and place it in the bag. That

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<v Speaker 1>list in the bag about what they mean this way,

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<v Speaker 1>you won't forget that you intend for the carnelia, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>to represent creativity and support from friends, or for the

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<v Speaker 1>labyridide if you put that in the bag to symbolize

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<v Speaker 1>your connection to spirit and intuition. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's important because sometimes we can forget did

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for this one to be protection or warning?

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<v Speaker 2>So if you wrape that down, it's going to be very,

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<v Speaker 2>very helpful when you get into that meditative zone before

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<v Speaker 2>you do your lithomancy. All right, So we want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some exercises that you can try right now

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<v Speaker 2>at home, but we're going to take a very quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, folks. If you've been waiting to register for my

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, welcome back. So let's talk about some crystal lithomancy

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<v Speaker 2>exercises you can try. One thing you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>is select your stones, So choose seven to ten stones

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<v Speaker 2>or crystals, and make sure, as we said, each one

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<v Speaker 2>represents a significant aspect of your life, like relationships, career, health, communication,

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth. And then you want to prepare your

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<v Speaker 2>casting surface, so as we suggested before, use a special.

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<v Speaker 1>Cloth or a scarf.

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<v Speaker 2>Some practitioners will draw boundary lines or divide the area

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<v Speaker 2>into sect like past, present, future. Some people will draw

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<v Speaker 2>a clock or a calendar on the cloth. If the

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<v Speaker 2>question is time specific. And then you want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>your question, focus clearly on the question you wish to

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<v Speaker 2>explore and hold the stones in your hands to charge

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<v Speaker 2>them with your intention. And then you cast the stones gently,

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<v Speaker 2>toss the stones onto the surface and observe where each

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<v Speaker 2>one lands. Look at which one's cluster together, which ones

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<v Speaker 2>lie near the center, which ones fall outside the boundaries,

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<v Speaker 2>and then interpret the pattern. So, if your love stone

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<v Speaker 2>lands close to the health stone in the future sector,

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<v Speaker 2>it might suggest a romantic connection impacting your well being

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<v Speaker 2>in the times of ahead, or you might meet a

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<v Speaker 2>doctor in the future. It's up to your intuition to

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<v Speaker 2>determine that. If the success and abundant stone is isolated,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps finances are in whole or not central at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the key. You know, Deb and I are

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<v Speaker 2>always talking about journaling and creating your validation journal. You

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<v Speaker 2>do want to record your insights. You want to keep

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<v Speaker 2>a journal to track your results because this will help

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<v Speaker 2>to not only refine your intuition over time, but it

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<v Speaker 2>will help you make a deeper connection with your stones.

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<v Speaker 2>Similar to the toureau when you start off and you

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<v Speaker 2>pull a card and you got to look at the

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<v Speaker 2>book or really look at the symbol because you're not

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<v Speaker 2>really sure what that card means. After a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years those cards, you know exactly what they mean to

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<v Speaker 2>you in readings because you've done them over and.

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<v Speaker 1>Over, Samantha. Lithomancy isn't only about reading the future. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also about manifesting change. Stones can be used to create

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<v Speaker 1>grids for protection, carrying a wish stone for prosperity, or

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<v Speaker 1>creating amulets with chosen crystals. For example, you might carry

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<v Speaker 1>a tiger's eye for courage during interviews, or place rose

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<v Speaker 1>quartz and a written wish under your pillow for a

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful sleep. I use amethysts for that, but rose courts

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<v Speaker 1>probably works will too.

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<v Speaker 2>Amethyst is great for sleep issues, for sure, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Two. So you can create a stone set. That is

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<v Speaker 1>another way of looking at how you might put these

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<v Speaker 1>rocks together. So gather thirteen stones. In doctor Saint Jermaine's

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<v Speaker 1>book called Lithomancy, he recommends anointing each stone, set each

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<v Speaker 1>stone in your set with essential oils, charging it in

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<v Speaker 1>the sun or moon, and then telling each stone what

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<v Speaker 1>its job is. I think you ought to ask, but

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<v Speaker 1>in any case, for example, choose a white stone or

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<v Speaker 1>a snowy quartz and tell it or ask it to

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<v Speaker 1>show you when an answer to your question is yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Take your rose quartz for example, and say, could you

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<v Speaker 1>make your job about love and romance for me? So

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<v Speaker 1>assign each stone a task to accomplish, for example. But

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<v Speaker 1>again I use the word of sign in terms of requesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So clear quarts for example for clarity, amethysts for intuition,

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<v Speaker 1>rose quarts for love, sitttering for abundance, obsidian for protection

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<v Speaker 1>or shadow work, Jasper for health, turquoise for communication, amber

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<v Speaker 1>for past connections, jet for spiritual messages, Carnelian for action,

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<v Speaker 1>hematite for grounding, agate for balance, and then a coin

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<v Speaker 1>that's special to you for luck or good fortune.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to add something in here, dub These are

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<v Speaker 2>recommendations from Saint Germaine's book on lithomancy, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>included these huge or just to point out how it's

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<v Speaker 2>important for you to connect with the crystal in the

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<v Speaker 2>way that makes sense to you. So for him, jasper

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<v Speaker 2>represents health. For me, that's not true, it represents protection. Amethysts.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't associate with intuition as much as I do

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual connection. I associate lapis or labyorite or shadowkite with

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<v Speaker 2>intuition for example. So again we're only giving you these

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<v Speaker 2>descriptions as a way to say crystals can do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things, but you do need to create a

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<v Speaker 2>ask them to do a specific job in a reading situation.

417
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what's going to happen, I imagine is that

418
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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's going to listen to this list that I've

419
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.839
<v Speaker 1>just scrattled off from doctor Saint Jermaine, and they're going

420
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to say, well, can you write that downstre I know

421
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>which one do you use? And do no? And that's

422
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.559
<v Speaker 1>really what's the maanthis say, is that here's just an

423
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>exciting of how a stone might be available to you

424
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to do a certain task, but you need to build

425
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.759
<v Speaker 1>a relationship with that stone and ask it what task

426
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 1>it will be willing to take on for you.

427
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. Now, A really simple way to get to

428
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 2>know the crystals in your lithomancy bag. Each morning, just

429
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 2>draw one stone from your set and reflect on its meaning.

430
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Set an intention for your day. So you can either

431
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>just choose a stone from your bag of crystals and

432
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 2>reflect on it, or you can ask a question for

433
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 2>the day, such as what should I be aware of today.

434
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 2>If you pull your healthstone, then you know you should

435
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:43.079
<v Speaker 2>be extra careful while out and about and use your

436
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>hand sanitizer. But if you pull your success stone, then

437
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 2>you know you're heading into a day with good news,

438
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>hopefully at work.

439
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a great idea. I don't pull a stone

440
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, but I think that's a good idea.

441
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 1>You could also do it what's called a simple three

442
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:01.799
<v Speaker 1>stone cast ritual. In the morning. You can take a white, black,

443
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.319
<v Speaker 1>and brown stone. The white for yes, the black for no,

444
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and the brownstone represents you ask your question. Then gently

445
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 1>shake the three stones in your hands and toss them

446
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>on your cloth. If the white stone is near the

447
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>brown one, the answer is yes. Both the black and

448
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>white stones are far away from the brownstone, it means

449
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe or not.

450
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Now that's a good one to do as well. And

451
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>what I like about that simple exercise is sometimes what

452
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 2>comes up in terms of your reaction is more instructive

453
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 2>than the answer. So if you're asking a question and

454
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you get a no or maybe, it takes some time

455
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.200
<v Speaker 2>to really reflect on how that makes you feel and

456
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.039
<v Speaker 2>can you change that if you want it to be

457
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>a yes? What action steps can you take. So sometimes

458
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 2>the emotions that the result draws in you is just

459
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 2>as important as the crystals you pull. Now, there's another

460
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 2>method that he recommends in his book called the seven

461
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.839
<v Speaker 2>stone quick cast, and you can try this method when

462
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 2>you have a specific question. So you select seven stones

463
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.119
<v Speaker 2>again with meetings assigned to them, and then toss them

464
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>gently onto a casting cloth. Notice which land together apart

465
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 2>or off the cloth, and make sure to look at

466
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>not only proximity, but also direction northeast, south, and west.

467
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 2>If it falls in the eastern direction, it can indicate

468
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>springtime or a young person or new experiences. If it

469
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>falls in the southern direction, that can indicate summer, adulthood,

470
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 2>or a stable time. A westerly direction points to the

471
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>fall season, an older person or old age, or experiences

472
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.000
<v Speaker 2>that are starting to end or slow down. And if

473
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 2>a stone falls in the northern direction, this can indicate winter,

474
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>an ending or death of a situation, or something that

475
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 2>needs to take root and stay hidden. For now, I've

476
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 2>done crystal castings. I've never taken into account the directions.

477
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>I bet you have because you work more with the.

478
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<v Speaker 1>Directions I do. I do think that's important. I mean,

479
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<v Speaker 1>for example, when I put together a crystal grid for

480
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<v Speaker 1>particular intent. One of the things in the grid construction

481
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<v Speaker 1>under consideration is which stones go in which quadrant of

482
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<v Speaker 1>the four directions or the four elements.

483
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:31.319
<v Speaker 2>I definitely do that too with crystal grids, but I

484
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>never thought of taking it into account in terms of

485
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>a reading. And I think that's interesting. And I'm wondering

486
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>what you think about that, because sometimes deb I hear

487
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 2>your voice inside of me, and I'm thinking, when you

488
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 2>see springtime, is a part of you thinking well, whose spring?

489
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Because on the other side of the world right now

490
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 2>it's summer and we're heading into winter.

491
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<v Speaker 1>That's rights?

492
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Or do you look at the directions like it's from

493
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 2>where I am right now?

494
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Depends on the question I'm asking. So if I'm asking

495
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 1>a personal, very personal question, then I take into account

496
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:10.559
<v Speaker 1>where am I r at this minute, right, or where

497
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 1>do I live? So I live in the Northern Hemisphere,

498
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 1>so east is spring, right. But if I'm asking a

499
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 1>question about universal energies or that sort of thing, I

500
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 1>might take into consideration. Well, folks in the southern hemisphere

501
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:26.119
<v Speaker 1>might see this differently.

502
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm, okay, good distinction. Now, something else he recommends

503
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>is to create your wish stone, And of course I

504
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 2>love this idea. He says, you just choose a stone,

505
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 2>any stone that resonates with you that represents your heart's desire.

506
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 2>You cleanse it by placing it in sunlight or moonlight

507
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and hold it as you visualize your wish and then

508
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 2>carry it with you, or you can keep it on

509
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>your altar until your wish comes true. I think that's

510
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>a lovely idea because it just reminds you that there

511
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>are things that you have goals that you're working on,

512
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and then there's things you're wishing and hoping for that

513
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>have a different energy where you're relying more on outside help,

514
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>and it's nice to have a crystal help you to do.

515
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>That absolutely now.

516
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 2>He also recommends adding a coin or two to your set.

517
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 2>You can cast them with your stones and see how

518
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 2>their positions affect your reading. If a coin lands atop

519
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>a stone, it could indicate a windfall or a lucky

520
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 2>break in that area. So if you add a coin,

521
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it just represents good luck or extra help, and I

522
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 2>think that's a nice thing to add to the reading.

523
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I do too, And if you've got a coin that's

524
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:40.519
<v Speaker 1>particularly important to you in some way, or for some reason,

525
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.119
<v Speaker 1>you might include it in that bag with the stones.

526
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 1>For example, I have a buffalo head nickel from the

527
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>year my mother was born, and it lives on a

528
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 1>grid with a lot of other rocks and stuff. But

529
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 1>if I were doing something like this, I might include

530
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>throwing it in to see what Mama might have to say.

531
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's a great idea, and you can also get

532
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 2>a feng shui coin would be a good one to

533
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.839
<v Speaker 2>add to this. What do you think deb about the

534
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>penny going away? Do you have any feelings about that?

535
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah I do. I'm like pennies, you know, and

536
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna laugh at this. In my wallet, I keep

537
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a dollar's worth of change in case I need to.

538
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.119
<v Speaker 1>You know how, sometimes the cost of something is seven

539
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 1>dollars and twenty six cents, and if you hand the

540
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>person an extra penny, then you get three quarters back

541
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. So I always keep four pennies in

542
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>my wallet in case I need And I have this

543
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 1>jar in my office that loose change. Extra change just

544
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>goes into and every once in't a while I take

545
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 1>it to the bank. And it occurred to me, I

546
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know whether the bank will take my pennies anymore.

547
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. And the nickels the next to go.

548
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh dear, I know, And I just think about My

549
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 2>kids have had this giant, giant jug for years and

550
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 2>it's called their travel jar, and they collect change always

551
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 2>and put it in the travel jar and then when

552
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.239
<v Speaker 2>we go on a trip, we would roll them or

553
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>take them to the bank and that would be their

554
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>spending money for the trip. And they just loved that.

555
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, oh, our travel jar is going to

556
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>have to well, I guess it could be quarters now.

557
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Just a sign of the times.

558
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:30.679
<v Speaker 1>It is a sign of a time. I need to

559
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>actually go to my bank sometime soon and like really

560
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>walk in the door kind of thing. And when I

561
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 1>do that, I'm going to ask some about any situation,

562
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know what that's going to happen. Dune

563
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>any other story.

564
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Another technique he talks about is the mystic cross. Do

565
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>you want to tell people about that?

566
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Sure? Let me do that. So this is similar to

567
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>the Celtic cross spread in to row. So you want

568
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to find five stones from your bag and lay them

569
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>out in a cross formation. The center stone represents obstacles

570
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:12.559
<v Speaker 1>and current challenges. The stone to the right symbolizes future events.

571
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>The stone to the left represents the past or situations

572
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that are moving out of your energy field. The stone

573
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>below represents the current issue you're facing, and the stone

574
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>at the top represents ideas or solutions. This is somewhat

575
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 1>different in meaning than the Celtic cross inter row, but

576
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the idea of using five stones is a great idea

577
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to help you sort through looking at a situation or

578
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a question from several different perspectives. I just have to

579
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 1>say here. There is a verse in the Bible that says,

580
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 1>and David took five smooth stones and went against Goliath.

581
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right.

582
00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 1>You think you didn't.

583
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Miss it crossbread first.

584
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 1>I bet he didn't. So you might use these five

585
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>stones as a way of saying, Okay, here's the situation,

586
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>here's here's kind of the sinner. That's the obstacles of

587
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the question that I'm asking, and then those four stones

588
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 1>around it help you look at potential answers from different perspectives.

589
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Another thing you can do is called a chakra stone reading.

590
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>So that's where you take your seven crystals representing the

591
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 2>seven chakras, and then you want to add in a

592
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>blackstone like obsidian, because it's great at absorbing negativity and

593
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 2>it's wonderful for showing you a no. And then a

594
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:38.119
<v Speaker 2>white stone like snowy quartz that can show you a yes.

595
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Shake the bag gently while focusing on your chakras, and

596
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 2>then pour the stones out onto the cloth. Look at

597
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 2>where the white and black stones have fallen. If the

598
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>white stone, for example, is near the light bluestone, say

599
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 2>a blue lay zagat, this means your throat chakra needs

600
00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 2>to be energized and worked on. If the blackstone falls

601
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 2>near the jasper for your root chakra, then this means

602
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the root chakra needs to be discharged and rebalanced. So

603
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>remember lithomancy is deeply personal. Your connection to the stones,

604
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.519
<v Speaker 2>your intuition in your personal symbolism are paramount, so you

605
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>want to make this chakra reading your own. But generally,

606
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>what this one is suggesting is that if the white

607
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>stone falls near a chakra stone, it means that one

608
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.840
<v Speaker 2>is closed and needs to be open and worked on

609
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>and expanded. And if a black stone falls near one

610
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 2>of the chakra stones, it means that chakra is too inflamed,

611
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>too open, and you need to discharge some energy. So

612
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 2>that's a really great way to start working with your

613
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 2>own chakras. But again, there's no single right way to

614
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>do it. The beauty lies in developing your own dialogue,

615
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 2>so there's different ways. You can also determine and interpret

616
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:03.199
<v Speaker 2>some of the stone casting clusters, for example, kind of

617
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 2>reinforce the meeting. So if a bunch of stones are

618
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 2>falling together, that can mean everyone's working together, or this

619
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 2>is a really big situation you need to focus on.

620
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 2>You also want to look at distance from your stone

621
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 2>or the center. So what we mean by that is

622
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 2>people do it differently. You can either just generally state

623
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>to yourself that the center of the cloth represents the questioner,

624
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>or you can put a stone into the bag to

625
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 2>represent the questioner. Some to Rod readers do that, don't

626
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 2>they They pull out an identify your card.

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<v Speaker 1>They do. In fact, that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>Eden Gray suggests. I don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never done that either, because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>what if that card needs to be in there as

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<v Speaker 2>part of the reading.

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<v Speaker 1>But me too, That's exactly what I tell my students.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, to each zone and then you

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<v Speaker 2>want to look at do some of the stones fall

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<v Speaker 2>on opposite sides, and that can represent conflict or tension.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course there's empty sectors, which represents silence

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<v Speaker 2>or lack of influence. And again that's similar to Tourou

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<v Speaker 2>because you always want to look at what suits, what numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the predominant colors on the Tourou board, But

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<v Speaker 2>you also want to make a note of what suits

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<v Speaker 2>aren't on this board, what colors aren't there, what numbers

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<v Speaker 2>aren't there, and that can be incorporated into your interpretation

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true and in addition to Touau, and I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you on that. But think about your astrology chart.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes there are sectors of your astrology chart that are empty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good point. And then there's of course boundary interactions.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you do want to have a square with

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<v Speaker 2>the four directions or circle something that represents a boundary,

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<v Speaker 2>you do want to look at the stones that fall

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<v Speaker 2>outside of that and include that interpretation into your reading.

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<v Speaker 2>In general, time you can tell time in a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of different ways. Generally with lithomanc, left side of your

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<v Speaker 2>casting cloth represents the past, the center represents the present,

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<v Speaker 2>and the right side represents the future. But there are

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<v Speaker 2>people who will actually take a cloth or a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of paper and draw a calendar on there and toss

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<v Speaker 2>the stones on to see what month it falls onto.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's different ways you can work with the crystals.

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<v Speaker 2>If your question is time sensitive.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do that. But also keep in mind that

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<v Speaker 1>universal time is different than human time, and so when

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<v Speaker 1>we think of the past, trust what bubbles up? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>does this mean past as in yesterday or past us

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty years ago? But remember that there are lots

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<v Speaker 1>of ways of interpreting that language at your past, present

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<v Speaker 1>in future.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. So which of these do you think you

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<v Speaker 2>would try first?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Golly, you know something of that? I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the whole notion of doing the chapper stone reading would

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to me, Because I already got a chaper set.

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<v Speaker 1>The stones have been asked to do certain tasks. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be interesting to see what would happen if I

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<v Speaker 1>cast them onto a clock to see what the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to a particular question would be. So I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would probably try that first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, And I just want to add one

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<v Speaker 2>more suggestion. If you prefer pulling a stone one at

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<v Speaker 2>a time from the bag, I would recommend in that case,

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<v Speaker 2>you try to get stones that are all tumbled or

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<v Speaker 2>all raw, or all the same roughly shape and size,

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<v Speaker 2>so that subconsciously you're not your hand in the bag

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh that yes stone is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>big and has that thing, and you're like subconsciously reaching

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<v Speaker 2>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're going to use your stones predominantly to

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<v Speaker 2>just cast them, then I don't think it matters if

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<v Speaker 2>they're all the same size and shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this has been an interesting and unique topic this week, Samantha.

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<v Speaker 1>Well good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope that you've found it interesting too, and we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you tuning in with us every week. Bless you

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<v Speaker 1>all so much.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, we hope you have a fun week

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<v Speaker 2>playing with your crystal friends. Remember, as always, to be

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<v Speaker 2>the light for yourself and others.

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