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Speaker 1: He was the Commander Who podcast, episode five thirty six.

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I brand ome here, it's Ryan. I never continue the

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ark and evolution by talking about mono blue.

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Speaker 2: Now arethy was.

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Speaker 3: Talking to your microphone normal? So Garry can do your

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sound levels.

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Speaker 1: So if I talk into my mic regularly, look at

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Gary and he's gonna give me the nod. He's gonna

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say yup, And then I'm gonna say, hey, Ryan, We're

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back for yet another whirlwind adventure. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Oh good? What is going down?

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Speaker 1: The whole bunch is going down. We've got a whole

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bunch of stories to tell, a bunch of people to thank,

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and we're gonna go deeper on our excursion through the

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mono colored Commanders of old and News.

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Speaker 3: I am so excited about this when you were like, oh,

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the worst one.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't. I'm gonna hit I'm gonna say it

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off the top, and you're gonna be the measuring stick

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on this one. I think that blue is the color

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that was the most stagnant over the last seven years.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, there's there's the first take of the day.

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Speaker 1: That's the first take of the day, and we're gonna

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see if I'm right. Before we get to any of

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Speaker 1: Studio Network.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever gone to Winnipeg and thought, Man, this

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city is awesome. Not the event I'm going to is cool.

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Not the people I met here are great. But man,

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I'm so happy that I'm in Winnipeg right now because

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I'll bet you the answer for all three of us

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is no, no garry see. And that's not a shot

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at Winnipeg. It's just, dude, you guys need to have

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a You guys need to have a liquor store that's

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opened past six isn't in the ghetto off of a

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park with bulletproof glass in front of it. It only

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spells three kinds of fucking swill beer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, to be to We did drink those

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beer though.

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Speaker 1: Sure did you need to have a local pub or

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bar establishment that isn't a chain.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good one. You know, it's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Those are things I'm just saying, like I'm helping Winnipeg

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get better because I want to like them, because I

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want to go there, because I want to hang out

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a fusion. But yeah, I'm not gonna until you do

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any of the things that I just said.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got some good ones. I've got some podcasting

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business to get through here real quick before we get

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into the evolution of blue Commanders in Commander Big, thank

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you to the different Having Media Network, Studio Network, and

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producer Gary. Like we said.

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Speaker 1: Studio Network, Studio Network me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to our new patron or i'll say returning

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patron over at patreon dot com slash CEO Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you helping the show grow and

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continue along, and we're gonna see all of you in

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Vegas very soon.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the the Las Vegas CEO Experience coming up April

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to airbnb. All the plans have been set. I've picked

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up some booster packs from Fusion Gaming Online dot com. Excellent,

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Speaker 1: Do we have a driver? I am, I'm maybe going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't we all though?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I get in kind of like like

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Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. Okay, I just figure it out

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the day of good.

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Speaker 1: I just need to I just need to get to

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the house that I can, you know, catch.

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Speaker 3: Up you know, yeah, unwind if you will, Yeah, yes,

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at the pool, I think we have one?

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Speaker 1: Good did I?

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Speaker 3: Did I say that we had a pool last time? Okay?

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Pool Ceco experience number one benefit of course, the discord

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confirmed with each other that we don't remember his nickname. No,

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this is Curtis Smith, which sounds totally made up.

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Speaker 1: And normally we'd give you a fake name. When you

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have a made up name, we give you your real

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name because we're very smart.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I thought Curtis sounds like curtains, and then

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I was like, yeah, like meat curtains, the best kind

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of curtain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which you can probably buy at Fusion Gaming online

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dot Communist species donations say five percent of all the

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Speaker 3: Ever want, and regular curtains home.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they do, they do, They do do window to

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and I will continue to tell people that until Fusion

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Speaker 3: And we just had easter too. Maybe it's ham, maybe

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that maybe the meat is ham.

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Speaker 1: Did you have ham? My? Easter experience was a little

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different this year because like there's a lot of stuff

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going on in my life, so I didn't get to

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go to a lot of the planned events that were

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that were happening, like it's events all that those either,

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on Sunday, my mom and my stepdad are like, Okay,

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we don't want you to just like spend Easter by yourself.

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Speaker 4: What we've done the family, the extended family, the other

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Speaker 1: We were invited to all this shit. So it's like

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we're really tired of you. So we're just gonna have

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like I'm gonna I have like a turkey in a

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bag and we're gonna make it and here's some box

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stuff and shut up. And I was like, okay, you know,

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but it was still nice. It was nice that like

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they they did take the time to like they made

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all the things that would happen at a Easter dinner,

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but like the quick way that's okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was we were a bunch of busy people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, everybody's got their lives and it's very good.

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So I got to do my Easter. I hope everybody

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else out there got there got to do it too.

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Speaker 3: Zombie Jesus, date baby, did you? Did you? Did you

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have any pile of bones? Yes? Wow, here's the thing.

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We've got some pile of bones sitting on the table

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here my two favorite kinds. You'd seem if you're watching

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on YouTube, which should be and you just saw the

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pile of bones graphic on the set TV behind us,

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if you're watching on YouTube, and man, we're drinking some

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pile of bones today we're talking about blue.

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Speaker 1: So let's give everybody a real quick recap. If you

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want the in depth recap of what we're doing over

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the next few shows, check out last week's the first

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little bit of last week's that. So we're gonna go

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from popular Commanders prior to Universes Beyond and I counted

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that as twenty nineteen until today, and we're gonna look

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at what was popular then versus what's popular now. Because

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people say that the Universes Beyond are coming in, they're

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taking over. They're too strong and they're too much. And

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let's see have the colors changed it all and it

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could be both universes beyond influence, or it could just

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be power creep or whatever else.

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Speaker 3: And I believe last week when we did white, we're

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going in wooberg order. By the way, last week when

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we did White in the Now, because we're doing then

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versus now in the now, there was one universes beyond commander.

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Speaker 1: And it was it was anti venom or something like a.

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Speaker 3: Very Oh no, there was two because there was cloud

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and anti venoms. Okay, so there was two, two out

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of ten twenty, which I mean actually when you say

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it like that, it sounds lots when you say.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's two but in seven years.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but it has in seven years because those are

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Speaker 1: Sure, oh, but I'll bit you if you look. Actually,

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maybe that's not the best example, but if you look

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at how many of those cards are from the last

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most of them will probably be recent. Ah right, Moros,

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not many mallemomerows.

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Speaker 3: No are good friends at dhrec dot com. You might

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have heard of them. They talk about recency bias all

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the time. The more recent stuff is trendy. Is the

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thing that you know, you get into the game because

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Spider Man, you build the Spider Man Commander. That's because

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that's good. You like spider Man. Right, So, recency bias

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has a couple different reasons. And as new things come out,

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they bump they used to be recent stuff down and

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always are things that are re venting themselves and always relevant.

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Speaker 1: That what we're doing now is actually a really good

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indicator of those because you'll get to see in the

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the results when they send them to media. H rec

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I'm trying really hard not to read them. I just

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want to renumber them and send them to Gary. But

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like I'm you can really see, like this is what

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Blue does. These are some of the powerful things. You'll

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I like, and you're gonna see that lots in this episode.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, I like that on on again. If you're

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watching on YouTube, which should be, there was a an

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ad behind us for Commander ad Popular. And I've been

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on the record extensively on Commander ad Populum. And this

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is one of the reasons that that brander never wants

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Speaker 1: Talk because we never It is because you never asked them.

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Speaker 3: No, it's because I only ever talk about Blue. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Most of us, because you don't ask that's the other one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the other reason. But I've been on the

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record saying so much about Monto Blue Control and why

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people play it and mill and Control and the stigma

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that Blue has, and the themes and the motifs and

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and why they exist and who those people are that

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play them.

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Speaker 1: We've met CEO Toby f you Toby over the last

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few months. He's a very big Blue guy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and he kind of bucks the mold a little bit.

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Plus he's a new player. But one of the things

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that I've talked about is new players trending towards Blue

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because it gives them kind of the seat of authority

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at the table, and that's a thing that lots of

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Cols Notes version is this Blue is the Control color.

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It's the slow down and think color. It's the color

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that allows you to think through everything and be smarter,

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which is better, which is dominant over your opponent. And

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magic is a thinky game. So if you're smarter, you're better,

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is the theory, which is a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of theory. I'm an idiot and I went all

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the time not stupid.

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Speaker 3: What does that say about your opponents that they're even

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dumber than me? So people who want that feeling dominance

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and outwitting and outthinking, out maneuvering, outstrategizing will flock to

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this color because it gives them that feeling of control.

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magic probably don't feel like they have a lot of

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Speaker 1: I would say that there's lots of people outside of

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the magic that feel that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not listening to Commander Cooko podcast.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they are. And if you are welcome and you

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for being here also that's it. Also one more thing,

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if you like what we're doing, we're gonna do the

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FI I have plans to do the five mono colors

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if if you would like us to go into the

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ten dual colors of magic with this arc. Please let

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us know. I'm happy to ask somebody else to do

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all the work for us to do it and they'll

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throw it in, but we have to let them know.

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to hear the trend lines between like the Zorious Demir

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rac Dose, let us know, and I would love to

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do it. I would give I'm genuinely curious for some

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of the colors, especially rac Dose and Gruel, because I

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think the ractose has been the same forever and it's

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never changed. And I think that Grule's top ten is

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going to be just a mishmash of what theff is

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even happening, and I would love to see if the

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numbers back that up. So if you guys are interested

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in that, please let us know in the comments wherever

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you're watching, send to the emails to.

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Speaker 3: Gail dot com, or in the discord if you if

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you're in there and you want to shoot us a message,

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or in the main kind of channel where everybody discusses

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we can we can plan all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I just love them know if you guys are interested,

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because I'm I really am. I mean, maybe we could

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just do it anyway because we're like the bosses. But

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it would be better if we knew that people were

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interested in what we're doing. Otherwise we're just talking a

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bunch of a bunch of strict saven shit and it's

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just a bunch of opee garbage. So here we are.

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You know, it's your guy, it's your guys' call. Really, Gary, Gary,

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not Gary Ryan. Hit him with the first slide.

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Speaker 3: Hit him with the first slide. Boo. Well, I'm well,

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I'm looking for the thing you can see behind us

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if you're watching on YouTube. Oh yeah, our sleeve project

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then tremat yeah.

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Speaker 1: Teffree playmats are Are they still available on the website

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as of today.

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Speaker 3: They are, but I have like one left, so I've

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requested a restock on them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're waiting for restock. So if you do

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donate to the CEO Sleeve Product Project, we do have

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more playmats coming. We don't have them in stock, so

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just be prepared for a little bit of a weight,

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but we'll get them to you. All signed and delivered,

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all the business, but the that they sent us is empty.

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And thank you to everybody who helped us. O.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, super awesome. Some people bought two and they

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wanted to get them signed, and all of the proceeds

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we said it last week go to to the sleeve project,

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which is the number one thing that that people ask

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us about, is like CCO sleeves, And we've got a

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great supplier where we've tried them and tested them, and

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our friends have and we've other creators have fricking used

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them and recommended them to us. So it's like get

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your teffree playmat. This is a legit one, not a

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ripoff that you see like on on on websites to

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do like one off play mats and shit. This is

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the real one. That was a scan of the actual

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canvas that I own that our buddy Dave Wong painted,

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And it even has the little like thing in the

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bottom that says like used on permission of the artist

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and Wizard's content policy, Like we're not breaking any rules here.

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That's why you got to donate to to this their project,

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and you get the map for free as it were,

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So it's all legit and it ain't ripping off the

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artist because he was he was paid, and we're even

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gonna act like once the sleeves kick off we're actually

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gonna give him some more shit. So yeah, do the

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right thing, Cecio Nation, first fucking card.

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Speaker 1: We know you shall then?

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Speaker 3: Oh what is that?

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Speaker 1: No, it's the no. Look it's if you're watching on YouTube,

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which you should be, you will see that that's like

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three cards.

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Speaker 3: Oh I thought that was the Fortress of Solitude together.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I am not an artist like UK. I have

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a mouse and I refuse to do any art on

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the computer that requires me to unclick the mouse button.

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So I'm very impressed with how that turned out. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's like ice cube stuck together, shut up, which I

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mean is a blue thing.

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Speaker 1: I guess first card, this is the then, so we're

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going from ten to ten to one of the then.

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This is twenty nineteen's most popular mono Blue Commanders.

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Speaker 3: SI Master Theopterist. What the actual ass?

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Speaker 1: I know, money, it's twenty eighteen. He's a one four

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for blue and two human ad advisor. No artificer, artificer same,

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It's basically the same word. It's basically the same word.

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Whenever you cast an artifact spell create a one to

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one colorless theopter artifact creature token with flying blue, one

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sack and Zack to artifacts draw card.

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Speaker 3: This guy's doing the artifact thing. He's making thopters, which

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is like a blue thing. He's an artificer human, which

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are relevant creature types. His manecost at three is kind

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of right in the stick three to five where modern

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day commander has like evolved into.

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Speaker 1: Let me hear it that man.

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Speaker 3: You know what this deck is. This is not my

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style of deck. And I know this, this arc isn't

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about me, but it's this is free one's doing it.

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This is the the fiddly piddly artifact make it go

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bur twenty five actions per turn. No during your untapped,

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I'm gonna untapp of my guys and take a fifteen

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minute turn on your turn.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a Laura dec Yeah, fuck her,

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and I'm gonna I'm gonna let me hit you with

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the thing. And and nobody turned the episode off when

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I say this, because it's it's not a spoiler, but

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maybe people are thinking it. Okay, okay, people have heard

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me talk about this card, and they're thinking of an

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entirely different card that costs one more that just does

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it better. And we're gonna get to that card.

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Speaker 3: Oh we are, well that Okay, we are well, uh

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number nine. Yeah, this seems like a product of years

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gone by and this was pre universes beyond number ten

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Commander like this fits the fucking bill. Okay, it's fox card,

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that's whole Primal tighter. Buddy Andy over at Legendary Feature

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Podcast loves this guy.

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Speaker 1: This surprised the hell out of me. This is a

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seven seven for seven can't be countered. You have no

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maximum an size whenever in the pony Kazi non creature

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spelled draw cards. That's two instances to one of two

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that say draw card on them. This card three cards

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Exilet Return of the Battle of Tapa the beginning.

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Speaker 3: He dives down the Elder Dinosaurs so you can still

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play ed h Elder Dinosaur Highlander. Uh. Interesting to know

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that two cards in a row, just like we saw

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last week that are pre released promos.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see lots of this. I'm trying really hard

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when I do the arts to get yeah, the for

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the pre now versions, to try and find the princes

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where you can see where they're from.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you know what it's It's like Watson knew

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that this card could potentially have like Commander implications both

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in the command zone or in ninety nine being a

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dinosaur and this from exelon whatever whatever, when dinosaurs were

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like the stick, right, And.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that this one probably finds its spot

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because it's a seven to seven, which makes a three

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pump jump as for commander damage. And then it has one, two, three,

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four relevant lines of text on it, because let's not

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forget that Blue does have some madness, it does have

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some flashback, It does have lots of stuff that lets

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you take advantage of cards in your graveyard as well.

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So just carding those three cards to save your commander

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that's going to kill a guy isn't like a huge

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drawback to what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're playing all the card draw in the world

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in this particular deck. You dive them down, you save

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them from a removal spell when you're hurting guys, or

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when you give them double strike, or when you double

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his power and give them double strike. So he's a

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one pump and you're playing all of the mass bounce,

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all of the mos and you just hit guys for seven,

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and you're you're controlling the board and giving yourself opportunities

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or seizing opportunities or making sure that opportunities are capitalized

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on with his seven power or his dive down or

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his can't be countered or his draw cardability. I think

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this card rocks.

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Speaker 1: He's very good as a commander. I think that he's

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I think he's been thoroughly outclassed. There's a zero percent

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chance that this guy shows up in the top ten

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of now, but that doesn't make him a bad card.

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Speaker 3: Let's lik. Okay along that line, I'm not I'm not

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asking you if commanders eight through one are outclassed. I'm

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going to ask you, are commanders eight through one going

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forward in the then category? Are they ones that you're

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still like scared or or grown or slump to see?

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Speaker 1: Are we talking about Blue?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the next eight ones on this list?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, are you scared of this guy when he

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sits down? No? Next card?

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Speaker 1: What the hell is even happening?

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Speaker 3: What this is a combo card? I know, but combo's

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proteus staff right, proteus staff? What proteus staffs?

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Speaker 1: I get? It's a one one for Blue, one hormnculous

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with a really cool art on it. Whenever he enters

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the battlefield draw card if it entered from your library

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or was cast from your library, you draw two instead

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whenever it comes the target of a spell shuffle fibble

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hip into its owner's library.

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Speaker 3: So you just cast stuff from the top of your library,

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or you proteus staff down to the spell that you

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want every fucking time and cast that from the top

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of your library and you draw cards of course when

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that happens. Also, you could make a homunculous deck, ye,

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or you could make a fibble thip deck.

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Speaker 1: You can make a big eyeballs looking left deck. I

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guess that's he's looking to his right.

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Speaker 3: He's looking to his right, Yes, But what you could

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put this in a big balls deck. I wonder if

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our friend Mac plays red puts this in his ball's

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deck because he's got a big eyeball.

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Speaker 1: Because that's its red and green.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's going to make another one, Maybe he's going

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to make a team or balls. Probably already has that, now,

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let's let's be honest, He probably already has that.

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Speaker 1: He probably does.

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Speaker 3: We'll have to ask him in Vegas because he's coming

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to the c SEO Experience.

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Speaker 1: Watch out.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll see him with a with no shirt

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on at the pool.

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Speaker 1: Yes, probably probably.

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Speaker 3: Another benefit to becoming a patron.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait wait, let's just see number.

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Speaker 3: What is this?

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Speaker 1: Six?

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Speaker 3: Are you scared of this guy? No, not even prote

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a staff Like you sit down and somebody plops down

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a fibble thip and they say, yeah, it's it's fibble thip.

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Nice cedh proteus staff combo, crush him, crash him, step

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on his fucking balls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I play red.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter which ones his eyes or his like junk.

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Speaker 1: I'll get it. Do you rely on an artifact for

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your combo? Nice deck, asshole. One, I'm going faster than you,

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and two if you happen to get the thing before

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I do, I'm probably still gonna suck you up like

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I don't. I don't fear this guy at all.

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Speaker 3: Of note, he's a two drop commander. Yes. Of note

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also for at least promo.

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00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, next brok Hey, I think lots of people

475
00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:42,839
were expecting to see Aloran Sky Summoner. Yes, he's a

476
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,680
two to two for Blue Blue, and two he's a

477
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,440
murph folk, which is relevant and wizard. Whenever you cast

478
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,720
an instant or surcer, you make a two to two

479
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,720
drake with flying. You know what's an instant. An instant

480
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,119
is all of the counter spells in blue.

481
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 3: And all of the cantrips that one. I know that

482
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,799
they're not all instance, but they all cost one.

483
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,519
Speaker 1: All the blue cards that kind of are utility. Just

484
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,440
take advantage of this guy existing. This guy was built

485
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,559
to make doing that a strategy. That's why he exists.

486
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,359
That's why he's got the super cool Andy Warhol. Andy

487
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,200
Warhol's side view profile pick do I exist?

488
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:32,079
Speaker 3: Do we have a trend yet? Talrand plus Fibble Thip

489
00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:35,519
draw card draw card. Yeah, they're all Nazehal draw card

490
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,240
or side draw card. They're all card draw stuff.

491
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: I think the only one that stepped outside it so

492
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:44,119
far is Talrand because he's just encouraging you to play

493
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,759
the card draw stuff because it gives you a thing.

494
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: And counter spells are like the backup. Like the the

495
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:55,920
de facto Talran deck Talran deck from three, four, five,

496
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,920
six years ago. Whenever this came out is play all

497
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,920
the cantrips, play all the counter spells to protect yourself,

498
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:08,119
Play cyclonic rift and friends to make sure your guys

499
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,240
stay out. But there guys don't et cetera, and attack

500
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:16,640
for the win with twelve or fourteen or sixteen two

501
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,960
two drakes in the air.

502
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: Like we've talked about it lots on the show where

503
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,279
it's like how much is draw card worth to you?

504
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,440
And what Taalran says is for one time, because now

505
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,519
you're gonna play Brainstorm and you're gonna make You're gonna

506
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,839
draw three, put three back, put two back plus make

507
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,039
it two two with flying.

508
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: Two two with flying turns out. When you can do

509
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,799
that over and over, when that's repeatable, that's really good.

510
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: Your entire deck, all the cards in it, say whatever

511
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,359
they say. Then put a two to with flying into play.

512
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,240
And that's what Telluran does. That's why he's here, and

513
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,599
he's a good card. I would say to this. And

514
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,480
if you're watching on YouTube, which you should be, the

515
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,039
art looks really cool. I love these Andy Warhol things.

516
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I I'm not gonna say I'm scared of

517
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,119
any of these commanders yet. No, but thus far I

518
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,000
do know what all of them are doing. And it

519
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:20,000
feels a little bit like Mono Blue. Thus far, top

520
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:23,000
five of them or whatever we're on, or the ten

521
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,519
through five are decks that are on rails.

522
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:29,039
Speaker 1: No, you know exactly what you're doing.

523
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not making a blanket statement. I'm not saying

524
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:35,480
your deck is on rails. I'm saying these decks feel

525
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:39,960
like my mind's eye, they're on rails.

526
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: Yep.

527
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: So sure, show me the Drake deck that is Talran, like,

528
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:45,359
show me the.

529
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna do that, by the way, No, nobody's gonna

530
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,440
do that.

531
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: Sure as fuck. They better be putting coat of arms

532
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,640
in their Taalran deck because you know, you know, he's

533
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,119
only got he's only got ten guys, and I'm Matt forty.

534
00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:59,319
And then you drop the coata arms and now they're

535
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:00,720
all hitting for nineteen.

536
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, brother Tuckey.

537
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I don't know, and I think I think

538
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:13,079
on rails is the theme so far, because we've seen artifacts,

539
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:16,240
we've seen cantrips, we've seen counterspells, we've seen you know,

540
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,720
different creature types.

541
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,039
Speaker 1: Instance in sorceries.

542
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,599
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there hasn't been anything that's like, oh, these

543
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:22,000
are all.

544
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,039
Speaker 1: The same, this is crazy.

545
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well.

546
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Gadwick the Wizard, No, I don't. Honestly, I'm gonna say

547
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,119
it's a weird one. I don't remember anybody talking about this.

548
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: I never played against this guy, but including us and

549
00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:39,759
I have never seen anybody play this.

550
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,599
Speaker 1: Three three human Wizard or Blue Blue Blue X that

551
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,680
enters the battlefield to draw X cards. And whenever you

552
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:51,039
cast a blue spell up that tap target non land.

553
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: Permanent and opponent controls Human Wizard relevant. I think big

554
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,519
big Man are infinite manner relevant.

555
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:02,799
Speaker 1: I think he's just a big man of dross spell

556
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,440
with a bit of a I don't know. I think

557
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,359
this might be the least interesting card we've talked about

558
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:12,039
during the Arc.

559
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: Pre release promo of note this guy is a Stroke

560
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,920
of Genius or Blue son Zenith in your command zone. Sure,

561
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,519
very important to acknowledge that nothing wrong with that. Whenever

562
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:29,640
you cast a blue spell, which is you know every

563
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,920
fucking card in your deck, do something so your opponents

564
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,440
can't hurt you. That's another control sounding statement.

565
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: It taps them so you can't get they can't get

566
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,720
you until they're next turt is. It doesn't stay.

567
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: Tapped well as if I'm not going to cast more shit,

568
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,200
Yeah right, I'm always gonna be casting shit.

569
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

570
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:49,119
Speaker 3: And you know what's even better, tell me I can

571
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,680
cast shit at instant speed because I'm playing Blue, and

572
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:57,759
I can say things like, uh, uncle Brando, Yo, if

573
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:00,640
you attack me, I'll tap that shit in response. No,

574
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,079
actually I can't. I can't say exactly, judges, I can't

575
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,519
say that that. I can say things like this, uncle Brando, Yeah,

576
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,160
attack f you Jesse.

577
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:14,839
Speaker 1: No, yes, no, that's unfair. That's not fair, because yes,

578
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,160
I'm gonna do that every time.

579
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:19,559
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna say, uncle Brando, attack your best friend

580
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:20,720
over there, who isn't me.

581
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:27,839
Speaker 1: You're gonna say no, no, what, No, I don't know.

582
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,720
This is a bad example. To listen. The point is I.

583
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Can tap your ship at instant speedy. Is the point.

584
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,119
And while I can't do an in response to you

585
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,240
attacking me because it's already tapped at that point, for

586
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,720
those for those people who were unaware, I can make

587
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:51,319
a deal and say I will tap that if you

588
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,599
don't guarantee you're attacking somebody else.

589
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:57,839
Speaker 1: Although to be fair, that deal doesn't work if you

590
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,720
just lie to the person. If you lie, if you

591
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,480
don't attack me, I won't. Okay, well, I'm I'm already

592
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:06,880
attacking your.

593
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,079
Speaker 3: I wonder right like, yeah, you're right. Another, I have

594
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:14,720
another thing that I would like to posit. I'm not

595
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,039
gonna argue for or against this. I just think it's

596
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:18,720
an interesting point.

597
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't think you should do that. For the record,

598
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,519
No no.

599
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:25,359
Speaker 3: No, don't lie. Don't lie. We talk lots about reputation building,

600
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,400
reputation management, and nobody wants to be the liar or

601
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:32,839
have the liar in their group because it's unpredictable. It's

602
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,960
like four three experienced players sitting down with a new player.

603
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:41,920
You know what the experienced players are going to do

604
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,720
because strategically they know the most and they're the most predictable.

605
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,039
You also know what the not experienced player is going

606
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,319
to do because they know the least. They're not going

607
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,880
to see all the more complex social interactions and game

608
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,759
outside the game shit yep, until they do, and then

609
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:05,000
they do something unpredictable and it's fucking terrible. Right. So anyways,

610
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,279
this is what I was gonna say, is it would

611
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:11,000
be interesting to note how many of the cards that

612
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:14,119
we see over the course of this arc were commands

613
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,440
own preview cards, because our friends Josh Lacroix and Jimmy

614
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,720
Wrong they do have a pretty big YouTube channel and

615
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:27,119
what they say is sometimes the de facto kind of

616
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,440
feelings and thoughts on situations.

617
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,279
Speaker 1: And stop doing that.

618
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,279
Speaker 3: Well that's to say, stop talking.

619
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: No, stop listening to other people, like, listen to us,

620
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,640
because we're trying to give you a basis on which

621
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,799
to judge things. When somebody says this card is awesome

622
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:50,720
and it's Gadwick the Wizard, don't listen to them.

623
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: Though, I do think this card's awesome, So listen to me.

624
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:57,359
I'd play the shit out of this card. Do you no,

625
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:01,079
then don't. Then don't listen to him because he never

626
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:01,480
played it.

627
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't play it.

628
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: Now.

629
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,079
Speaker 1: This card isn't that good. It shouldn't be. Number five

630
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:06,400
was the top ten?

631
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: Would I would play the shit out of this card?

632
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,680
I head flash?

633
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,799
Speaker 1: Of course you would have Flash. Then you put it

634
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,039
in animal and you drop much cards.

635
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: Or anything of my decks that we'd play blue.

636
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: It's not doing that. Let's go the next one.

637
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: A zombie. I thought this is going to be number one?

638
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:26,519
I are you?

639
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Are you genuinely saying that?

640
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,759
Speaker 3: Now that I see that this one isn't number one,

641
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:32,680
I think something else is going to be number one.

642
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: You know what? Now everybody knows what number one is

643
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,559
human Wizard and Red. Everybody knows what number one is

644
00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:43,160
in blue and red. Everybody.

645
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,319
Speaker 3: I bet you if we went backwards in time far enough,

646
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,079
this would be number one. Sure, A zombie is blue

647
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:53,920
blue blue to human wizard tap an untapped wizard you

648
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,279
control draw card zero two.

649
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,079
Speaker 1: Wizard is the other creature type of blue yep, and

650
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,799
it says draw card. This might come into handy. It

651
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,840
does have three blue pips because nikos is a thing.

652
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: How many how many people are seeing me brush those

653
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,960
little maple bugs off of stuff that's around me?

654
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably everybody.

655
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: It's fine if you're watching on YouTube, which is shoot

656
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:23,400
a zombie man. I the very first freaking Commander tournament

657
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,639
I ever played in. I lost to this deck.

658
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: Stop it, damn it.

659
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,079
Speaker 3: I got I got got third or fourth, and then

660
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:32,960
freaking f you. Joel is playing a zombie, of course

661
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,360
he was, yeah, frick.

662
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,159
Speaker 1: But I feel like slaps. I think this is an

663
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,440
easy card for us to say, like, yeah, like it's

664
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,039
a zero two for fucking five, I'm playing a zombie Voltron.

665
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:50,079
But it also says like, yeah, we everybody knows why

666
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,639
this card is good. It only gets better with time. Yes,

667
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,440
So is it going to appear in the top ten

668
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:57,679
of now who can say, but we know why it

669
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,440
was good back then.

670
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:02,559
Speaker 3: I think it should this card. You want to sit

671
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:05,559
down against this card, Well.

672
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:09,559
Speaker 1: In our meta probably it'd probably fine. Out in the wild,

673
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:10,119
maybe not.

674
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 3: You know exactly what this deck's doing, fucking kill you

675
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,920
with wizards and they're controlling the board and they're playing

676
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,519
mind over matter and they're doing all the shit. So

677
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:21,840
the card that they draw, they can discard to untap

678
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,840
their wizards, and they're gonna double their triggered ability so

679
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,800
they can untap multiples and draw multiples.

680
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:30,519
Speaker 1: And lots of that happens in not Monto Blue. But

681
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:34,960
I see what you're saying, and I don't know out

682
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,599
in the wild, I would be like a zombie. Holy fuck,

683
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,480
I should pick a stronger deck in our current local mata.

684
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,599
If I saw on a zombie, I would probably be there.

685
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:44,760
And let's just go.

686
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,039
Speaker 3: A zombie Vultron. And I'm doing the ones where you

687
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:52,599
switch power and toughness. So her two is actually infinitely

688
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,400
more powerful.

689
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,079
Speaker 1: Than zero, that's true. And then her two is a

690
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:03,280
zero and she dies. Doesn't do that, Oh, but it's fine.

691
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: Her Andy Warhol picture kind of looks like she's taking

692
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,280
a shoe.

693
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's definitely crapping her pants and that I'm

694
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:12,760
not gonna lie to you Ryan. That is why I

695
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,239
heard Andy Warhol is here.

696
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say, I'm not gonna lie

697
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,360
to you, Ryan. I know what that face looks like.

698
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,599
Speaker 1: Why do? And it feels like everybody knows that.

699
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:28,199
Speaker 3: You crap your pants, you crap other people's pants. The truth.

700
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,960
That's it. Okay, truth baral, chief of compliance. Okay, I'm

701
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,280
starting to see a trending now.

702
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: This is another one that everybody was expected.

703
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: This guy's a real cocksucker. Hey, I hate this guy.

704
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,199
This is another two drop commander. He has a pre

705
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,400
released promo that you could play. This was a card

706
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,880
that got played in like Standard for a while, didn't it.

707
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,360
Another Human Wizard one three, so he's kind of tough

708
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,480
to kill. He can block early games. He blocks them

709
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,840
raging goblins and then Lano war elves yep yep. And

710
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:03,840
he's instant sorcery spells you cost cast one last cursed

711
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:04,960
yep yep.

712
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: Well done.

713
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: So he's kind of a manad work in the command

714
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,800
zone yep, which is which is a thing pretty freaking good.

715
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,519
I don't know have you've seen Rafalos Lanimar Emizary. Yeah,

716
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:18,199
pretty good, because he's bad. Pretty good whenever a spell

717
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,920
and ability you control counters a spell like fucking in blue.

718
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: Yep, when's that gonna happen?

719
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: Draw card than discarded card. That's pretty good.

720
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: It's not bad.

721
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,079
Speaker 3: WHOA that guy's good. I play this guy in like

722
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:31,800
a couple of decks.

723
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of those cards that

724
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:35,320
we don't need to go to in depth on because

725
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,400
obviously it's the He does the blue thing harder than

726
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,679
any other commander does the blue thing.

727
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: He's he takes all the pretty blue He's even got

728
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,480
blue in his picture.

729
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: He takes all the commander like, all the counter spells

730
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,920
like blue blue one. They're like, ah, do you really

731
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,119
want to do that? All the cancels, and he makes

732
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:58,440
all of them viable because he turns them all into

733
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:03,239
counter spell us they draw you a card.

734
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,119
Speaker 3: He puts them all into counterspell man slot with an

735
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:13,039
upside like scry one or ill two cards or draw

736
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,559
than discard plus he draws than discards.

737
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: What's a blue blue counter spell that has an upside?

738
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,639
Speaker 3: Ah manadrain Yeah?

739
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: What else?

740
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, yeah, everything with Barrall.

741
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so everything is. I can still say it because

742
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:37,639
it's probably true. It's one step below managed Rain. That's

743
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,440
what Burrall does, and that's why he's on this list.

744
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,119
Speaker 3: A news flash, Barral Decks probably playing Managrain too, yes,

745
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:48,800
because that's what they do. A little bit of a

746
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,920
trend here, we're seeing all of the Blue Commanders do

747
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:57,280
the blue thing, play can trips, get incremental value, counter

748
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,960
all your shit, and frankly from the I think the

749
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:07,719
general population's viewpoint be pain in the asses to play

750
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,960
against because and this isn't this isn't how it ought

751
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,679
to be, but it is how it is. I think

752
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:19,880
people who play Barrals and the people who want to

753
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,000
do the twenty five counterspell value engine dot deck or

754
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:29,000
infinite Combo dot deck after the twenty five counterspells are

755
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:33,480
deployed dot deck are doing that on purpose because they

756
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:38,360
want to be that player or that toxic person, or

757
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,519
just so, my friend plays dinosaurs, how do I counter

758
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,719
everything he ever plays? And they want to do that.

759
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,840
That's why these are popular, though nobody likes playing with

760
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,559
them or against them, and they don't actually see play

761
00:39:55,679 --> 00:40:00,480
that often. So and I would back this up with saying,

762
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:04,559
how often do you run into barrawl chief of compliance

763
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,159
on it?

764
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't ever. I don't think I ever have, no,

765
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,440
not one time. And I know Toby, Yeah, guarantee.

766
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,159
Speaker 3: This guy, this guy fucks in lots of decks I play.

767
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:17,599
I blame in two decks.

768
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:18,199
Speaker 1: Of course you do.

769
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: I blaime once because I play a deck that's got

770
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,320
like nineteen counterspells in it, and it's my cedh Mill deck,

771
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,079
and he draws me a ton of cards and my

772
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:32,119
other one is my instance in sorcery copy deck that

773
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,000
I use him as a man o dorc that just

774
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:37,559
happens to provide value for like I don't know one

775
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,239
other card of my deck. Yeah right, so it's like.

776
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: Why not he costs the same as Sapphire medallion, and

777
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,440
he kind of sorda does the same.

778
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 3: Thing ish ish ish when twenty five things in your

779
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,519
deck are instance in sorcery, he does the same thing.

780
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: Let's sit the next one one like the card.

781
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: He just gotta be careful. He gotta be careful people,

782
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:04,679
Well gotta be careful. God eternal Keffe.

783
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: Were you expecting to see them be honest with me?

784
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Because I was very surprised one they kept it so

785
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:17,000
high and b that they're fucking at all. And and

786
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,440
this is the second uh what planet is they from?

787
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,920
Ammon Cat? And is the second ammon Cat God to

788
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:29,079
appear in the top ten of the then list.

789
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first one was the white one. So this

790
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:36,400
is reveal the first card you draw each turn. Whenever

791
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:39,840
you reveal an instant or sorcery, this way copy it

792
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:42,920
and it costs too less to cast.

793
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: No, you can cast the copy for two less.

794
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fact, same thing. Everybody knew what I meant.

795
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,159
And if it dies, you put a third from the top.

796
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,320
It's a four or five flyer for four sure zombie God,

797
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,719
which is strangely relevant in blue and in five color

798
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,199
god dot deck and prove least promo because fuck it,

799
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,800
that's that's the trend life. Yeah, good card.

800
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,519
Speaker 1: I think we could say all the same stuff that

801
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:10,480
we've said about a lot of the previous cards where

802
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,880
it's got card draw it encourages to play. It encourages

803
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,480
you to play. Instance, the sorceries, which in blue are

804
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:20,119
cards that draw you cards are interaction. It really does

805
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:22,639
kind of I don't want to say it mainlines you

806
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,639
down the pipe of blue.

807
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: But I got a blue pipe, I'll tell you that much.

808
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,679
Speaker 1: But it is and balls they are doing that, though

809
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:34,679
there has not been a card we've talked about yet

810
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,559
that isn't focused on instance and sorceries. And in blue

811
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:41,719
instance and sorceries are counterspells or draw cards.

812
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and the card draw thing is is the

813
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,639
glue like card draw is the glue that holds the

814
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:51,360
blue together. See what they did there. Yeah, And you

815
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,119
don't need to be doing the counterspell thing if the

816
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:58,599
deck isn't putting it on rails for you, but you

817
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:03,119
are casting instances or so maybe maybe the the highway

818
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:04,679
that we're on is a little bit wider than just

819
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,800
counter spells, because instance and sorceries is kind of the highway.

820
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,519
But counter spells are there, and whatever the fuck kef

821
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:13,880
Net's doing is there too.

822
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: But there is a road that we're on, and it's

823
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,760
going straight to spuck it somewhere. Let's see where it goes.

824
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,559
Speaker 2: Uh.

825
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,519
Speaker 3: This one is surprising to me, which which I appreciate.

826
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:27,199
I like the unexpected. I want to say huh, no

827
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,079
way and both figure out why and and also just

828
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,760
be happy that it's not just Barrall Chief of Compliance

829
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,559
fifty eight times. Yeah, or things like that.

830
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll bet you people were thinking that one. They're like, oh,

831
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:44,039
here's the blue there's one.

832
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, this has got to be getting close to number one.

833
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:51,440
Emory Lurker of the Lock, Mrfolk Wizard Relevant Creature Types

834
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:56,760
one two pre released promo for three Manna. This spell

835
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,000
costs one less to cast for each artifact you control.

836
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,400
So really she costs one because you're putting all the

837
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,199
fast man in her deck. Because for a long time

838
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,039
this was like a c comm And I.

839
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: Do remember Emory. I did play against Emory a fair bit.

840
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,199
Speaker 3: When she enters a battlefield. Look at that. Put the

841
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,239
top four cards of your library into your g yard. Okay,

842
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,840
I don't hate that. Nope, I don't hate it.

843
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: No, put it drama.

844
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: Because choose target artifact card from your graveyard, you cast

845
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:28,119
that card this turn. You do that by tapping her.

846
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: And she is a pre modern I want to say

847
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,400
pre modern because that implies something else. Yeah, but this

848
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,440
is a card that had modern sensibilities but wasn't printed

849
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,559
in the modern day. Because you can do that over

850
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,239
and over again.

851
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: Pre modern lower case m.

852
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were to if they were to print

853
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,159
Emory now, it would come into play with a finality

854
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:54,719
counter on it. The way this card is printed as

855
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,239
it is, you can get your kCi back, and if

856
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,400
somebody kills it your next turn, you can just get

857
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,199
your kCi.

858
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, get it back with a finality

859
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,440
counter on it, or cast it for free, or put

860
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:08,800
it into play from your graveyard with a finality counter

861
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,079
on it.

862
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: So remove it from your graveyard and copy you can

863
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,559
count that, cast the copy for free, like they do

864
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:17,119
something to limit it. You can't just play the same card.

865
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 3: Every yes, so if you have something that ETBs and

866
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,400
draws a card, for example, and you have a mind

867
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,639
over matter in play, you can discard that card and

868
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,320
untap your memory to get another thing, and get another thing,

869
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,079
and get another thing, and then it turns into a

870
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:36,480
combo instead of a once per turn. We just outlined

871
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:40,039
other ways that they can kind of put that once

872
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:43,559
per turn clause on things. Finality counter is exiled, et cetera,

873
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:48,559
and this doesn't have that, which makes it more powerful.

874
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,400
Generally speaking, I think that the curve of power that

875
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,920
exists under this is broad, but not quite as high

876
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,840
as like get it Now, and get it for free

877
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:05,559
and win. Now yes, so like absolutely that's more powerful.

878
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,719
But this allows you to do it over and over

879
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,320
and over and over and over and get the value

880
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,519
and do the artifact thing. We haven't seen a true

881
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:17,800
artifact card on this list since, sigh at number ten.

882
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:20,679
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get there. Oh yeah, maybe we will. Who

883
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:21,199
can say?

884
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,519
Speaker 3: Who can? Who? I wonder if it's going to be

885
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:27,079
another pre release promo card it costs formata.

886
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: It might be.

887
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 3: Well, let's find out. Oh it is, oh so weird.

888
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: Who would have thought that the top number one best

889
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,880
top ten in twenty nineteen Mono Blue Artifact Commander would

890
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,960
be Urza Lord High Artificer the one four for Blue

891
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,480
Blue two Ryan read the rest because I can't see

892
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:50,719
it though.

893
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: When he enters a battlefield, put a zero one with

894
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:57,320
or a zero zero with gets plus one for each

895
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,519
artifacts you control, and it's an artifacts. Yeah, so it's

896
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:04,760
a one one. Also tap an untapped artifacts you control.

897
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,840
Add blue why not? Everything mocks Everything can has mocks

898
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:15,800
Diamond YEP or sky diamond if you're Brando. Also five

899
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,159
shuffle your library exile the top card. You can play

900
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:23,920
it without paying for it. Everything has no temporal extortion,

901
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,840
Mine's desired different card. Okay, kind of does that, but

902
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,159
temporal extortion is the card.

903
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,679
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, the temple of extortion goes you turn.

904
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, temporal manipulation. Maybe I like what I'm fucking

905
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,599
looking it up, dude, I gotta look it up now.

906
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,079
Speaker 1: I like Mind's desire better. The point is this is

907
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,360
obviously the number one Yes Mono Blue oh Amander card.

908
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,199
It's every combo. It does all the things that Blue does,

909
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,719
but like kind of.

910
00:47:56,679 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: More temporal aperture. But your five shuffle your library, reveal

911
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:04,039
the top card until it turn. As long as that

912
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:06,559
card remains the top of your library, play that card

913
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,800
without paying its manocost x is zero, so don't fuck around. Sure,

914
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,840
temporal aperture, but Mine's desire pretty close, So yeah, this

915
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,800
guy close. People were calling for a band when this

916
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,079
came out, because not only does it do if you

917
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:28,360
blink it, you get lots of shit. It makes everything

918
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,599
into a card that's banned. And also Temporal aperture was

919
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:36,519
a card that was part of probably the most prolific

920
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,639
combo deck in magic, the Gathering history in Standard, the

921
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,559
Academy deck that had temporal aperture and tillary Academy and

922
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:54,239
Mox diamond and chrome, No Lotus, pedal and stroke a genius,

923
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,239
a fucking instant.

924
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it is. Magic is bad. Back in

925
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,039
the day. The creature is bad. Not the cards.

926
00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: No so erza man this card and car, of course

927
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,719
it is. I played out of this.

928
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,159
Speaker 1: Card, of course. And for the record, he is by

929
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,960
far and away number one. It's not even close. In blue.

930
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,000
It's spoiler. Sorry, but.

931
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 3: You are you scared of this card when you sit

932
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,440
down like.

933
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: You take not Yeah, when somebody says I'm playing Lord

934
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,480
the Lord High Artifice, so it's like, okay, I'm gonna okay.

935
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: I actually like I didn't used to like this about

936
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:37,719
the card. But my thoughts about Commander have evolved and matured,

937
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,000
and my thoughts about different build paths, and we used

938
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,559
to say it lots unique gameplay experiences have evolved, and

939
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,239
you know me, I'm a sucker for artifact combo decks

940
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,960
as long as you're not Piddley. I love me some

941
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,840
temporal aperture. I love mine's desire. I played it ship

942
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,159
out of that my Cascade deck. Cool, I would make

943
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,599
that my deck and incidental value with the carnstruct and

944
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:08,840
like actual value with the mocks diamond or the the

945
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,599
mock sapphire thing, of course, but also like you could

946
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:15,400
just build a big Man of Blue deck with this

947
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,440
guy and and do like Urza Sea creatures because Big

948
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,000
Man of Blue.

949
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:20,039
Speaker 1: But you're not doing that.

950
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: You could do a Blink deck and make carnstruck fucking

951
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,920
tribal or whatever.

952
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,639
Speaker 1: With all of the free artifact decks, in which case

953
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:29,679
you're doing the first thing you talked about, which is,

954
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,599
oh my god, I'm playing all the free artifacts here

955
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:34,480
I go. It's it's a hard one.

956
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: It's a hard it's a hard one to convince people on.

957
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all because even if you're doing not

958
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:43,400
the thing, you're still probably doing a thing or why

959
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,480
are you playing He's he's too focused on being good

960
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,599
to not be good. And I'm not saying he's too

961
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:53,960
good should be banned, he's a game changer, he's turgered,

962
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:54,840
whatever the fuck, he's.

963
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,079
Speaker 3: Just really, he's the best card in Mono blue. Yeah,

964
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,760
he's the best card. Okay, if we call the number

965
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,239
one commander in the color combat that we're looking at

966
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,000
the best one, that might not be true, right, Like

967
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,760
my truck isn't all made out of steel though it

968
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,960
has steel parts, right, it's not steel it's made out

969
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,039
of steel, right.

970
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,639
Speaker 1: So it might not be true in this case. I

971
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:16,679
think maybe it might be.

972
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,159
Speaker 3: What I think people run into. Like if I sit

973
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:23,440
down with Ana Deck and we know each other, ye right,

974
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:27,679
I can say to you, Brando, no, it's it's a

975
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,840
temporal aperture deck.

976
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: And I will still fuck you up.

977
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: And you you might believe me, but you still fuck

978
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:35,280
me up. Be CAUZERSA. I could say, okay, Brando, Actually

979
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,519
I didn't want to do a Zorius blink. I wanted

980
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:41,159
to do Mono blue blink. No counter spells. It's like

981
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:46,320
artifact beat down, right, and you have to take that

982
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,760
at face value because you trust me. You don't have

983
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,840
to trust some stranger. Though A and B it's still Erza.

984
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,360
I can still do powerful shit probably and see I

985
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,159
shouldn't be required to give pretty much a fucking dissertation

986
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,639
during my real zero conversation for you.

987
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,519
Speaker 1: Just to believe me. That's why I don't believe in

988
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:09,320
rule zero is because of the dissertation gimmick.

989
00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 3: Like I thought it was your fetish.

990
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: No. I hate rule zero.

991
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,039
Speaker 3: No, we made stickers.

992
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: It's yeah, you made stickers, and I sell them for you.

993
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 3: The the real, the fetishized rule zero is the sticker

994
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,679
that we get like the most compliments on good Yeah,

995
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:32,480
the real zero, Zipper, mass commander, cocoat dot com, cheaper screepers.

996
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:33,679
So that's this is number one.

997
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,639
Speaker 1: That's number one on the old school list baby shocking

998
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,679
artifacts combo.

999
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: We've seen a few times.

1000
00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh and blue smoter than you?

1001
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 4: Oh the Souesion instance colors pill as well codes.

1002
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: I see the most cards by drawing and discarding and cantripping.

1003
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:56,119
I must be smarter than you because I have more

1004
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,719
decisions to make. Yeah, you might be smarter than me,

1005
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:04,199
but how good are you at making decisions? I think

1006
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,199
that blue is a difficult color to play, especially because

1007
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,199
people try to fucking ranch on you because they assume

1008
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,840
you're doing what you are.

1009
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: Thinking you're doing trying to do because you think that

1010
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,599
you're doing the thing. But you have to outsmart three

1011
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:23,880
other people who have very lots fewer decision points to

1012
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,360
fuck themselves over than you.

1013
00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:28,199
Speaker 3: Yes, and a vendetta against you.

1014
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:31,079
Speaker 1: If I'm playing somewhere like every five turns, I have

1015
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:34,679
to make an actual impactful decision versus you, who has

1016
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:36,760
to kind of do it every time anything happens.

1017
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: The odds are you're going to screw up before I

1018
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:41,679
do yes or more time. Sometimes you screw up and

1019
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,960
it's like non consequential or the consequence is very low.

1020
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: When you screw up, somebody else covers for you.

1021
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: But they can compound. And I find that Blue is

1022
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,920
the most compounding mistake color, because the only thing I

1023
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,960
can do is get something right to gain incremental value,

1024
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:04,639
or do something wrong to lose incremental value, and that

1025
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,280
adds up.

1026
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,079
Speaker 1: I still remember, I forget who I was playing against.

1027
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,239
It was it was an Omnath game, and it was

1028
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,360
I'm blowing you out Omnath gave. But I do remember

1029
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,880
somebody saying, man, I shouldn't have countered Omnath the second

1030
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,119
time that game, because I could have maybe gotten you

1031
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:23,400
with this cyclonic rift.

1032
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,199
Speaker 3: Hmmm.

1033
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,599
Speaker 1: And I mean, that's a ridiculous example, but it is

1034
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:32,639
an example of the incrementalness of blue, where it's like

1035
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:37,320
you can either win or not based on just stopping

1036
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,960
somebody from doing a single thing.

1037
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you not a lot.

1038
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,079
Speaker 1: Of colors have those kind of issues.

1039
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,559
Speaker 3: And Okay, that's this the last thing I'll say. But

1040
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,800
I'm gonna tell you something, tell me tell you something.

1041
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,079
I think maybe I think that blue for me personally

1042
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,599
is the most rewarding color for me to play. And

1043
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:07,800
blue also the reason I think I get kind of

1044
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:10,039
a little bit of a rap or a reputation at

1045
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:14,880
the CCO experience for always losing, because I'll play a

1046
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,800
mono blue deck just to try and get that thrill

1047
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,559
of outsmarting and manipulating people socially in a fun and

1048
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,679
healthy competitive way sure to try and get the win,

1049
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,320
because that reward for winning through using all of my

1050
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,519
mental and psychological and social prowess is so much more

1051
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:38,719
worth it to me then, you know, putting out like

1052
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,320
one hundred guys that I'll have twenty power like, I

1053
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,880
want to do that one thing and incrementally gain value

1054
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,679
until I have enough to make the one decision that

1055
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:57,039
disallows you from winning right. And I think, while I'm

1056
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:00,599
saying the same thing that people say, though I'm smarter

1057
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,760
than you, i play blue, I'm better than you, I'm

1058
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,960
saying the same thing. I want to be the guy

1059
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:10,239
who does make that decision and gets it right. But

1060
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,039
I want to do it because it's rewarding and it's

1061
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:18,159
interesting and it's fun, and it's usually a story. Yeah,

1062
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,559
it's not me wanting to beat you because I think

1063
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:22,599
I'm better than you, and I think that's the positive

1064
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:26,280
connotation that you can get from the color blue instead

1065
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,920
of the negative. I'm fucking smarter than you, You suck.

1066
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,880
Go back to playing red and green. Your mouth breather.

1067
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:33,599
Speaker 1: Yes see. I like to play red because it means

1068
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:36,000
my head's harder than yours, because when I smash mine

1069
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,199
into yours, I'm the one that's the.

1070
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 3: When my head's mostly blue. Yeah yeah, I'm all the

1071
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:47,960
way down to the shaft. Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna

1072
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,320
drink this beer or do you want that one? I

1073
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,599
like that one?

1074
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, too bad, I'm opening it. Look at it.

1075
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: Look if I open this one for you and you

1076
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,760
open this one for me?

1077
00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, eh, Well you've still gotta have a pile

1078
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:12,280
of bones on the table. Oh yeah, wait, wait, got there.

1079
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,480
You know what we're doing if you're watched on YouTube,

1080
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,480
which is so now we're gonna go on to the

1081
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,440
top ten of now, but we have to start what

1082
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:22,760
is what number eleven of the top ten of now,

1083
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,880
and I wanted number eleven of the top ten of

1084
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,440
now because when I did the comparison, I got idiot.

1085
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:33,079
Richel Com sent me the top ten of then, and

1086
00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:34,920
when I was going to the top ten of now

1087
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:38,199
to get the information, I noticed number eleven and I

1088
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:40,760
wanted to bring number eleven in based on what the

1089
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,119
top ten is. Does that make sense?

1090
00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:46,719
Speaker 3: And this is the top this is the number eleven.

1091
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Of ten of now, of now, of now now currently,

1092
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,000
So let's see what that was, right, Let's see what

1093
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:56,519
number eleven is now. It's a zombie again. So she

1094
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:00,559
hasn't fallen all the way out of favor, but she

1095
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:03,119
has fallen to number eleven. But I wanted to point

1096
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:06,079
out like she's she's pretty close, like she's within a

1097
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:09,119
few hundred decks of being in the top ten, but

1098
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:11,119
she didn't quite make it. So I just I wanted

1099
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,760
to honorable mention her. I didn't want to say honorable

1100
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,920
mention because that makes me sound like a d bag.

1101
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,639
Speaker 3: Hmm, well, a zombie. Now we're going on to This

1102
00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:20,239
is number ten.

1103
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: This is number ten of now.

1104
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,599
Speaker 3: Baby, Now, we gotta do now.

1105
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: We gotta do now. With the blue man as symbol,

1106
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,840
and you know that if you watched on YouTube, which

1107
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,280
you should be.

1108
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could definitely tell if that's what that is.

1109
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,599
Looks like blue balls, I would know dangly sack.

1110
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, with now in it, Leonardo da Vinci, we're gonna

1111
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:44,840
start off with and get this. A universe is beyond

1112
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,639
card Okay, the Assassin's Creed, this is number one. There's

1113
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:50,559
too many words on it. They'll see you.

1114
00:58:50,599 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm not reading it.

1115
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:52,559
Speaker 1: I'm not reading it either.

1116
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:56,199
Speaker 3: H toughness x X for ex's number of cards in

1117
00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:00,519
your hand? Okay, thopters, okay, draw CARDI is his second ability,

1118
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,519
human artificer. We've seen a lot of these things, yes,

1119
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,960
oopter something something second ability.

1120
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1121
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,679
Speaker 3: As at the Mona Lisa on it, it seems like

1122
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,119
it's Fiddley twenty five lines of text three three for three.

1123
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:22,440
I'm like, I'm I'm not surprised. Yeah, I'm not surprised

1124
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,960
that those words are on a card that's in the

1125
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,960
top ten. I am surprised that it's Leonardo da Vinci

1126
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,440
from Assassin's Creed, Yeah I was.

1127
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: I was also surprised by that.

1128
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 3: Eh wow.

1129
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:35,679
Speaker 1: And again, if you're watching this when it first comes

1130
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:38,559
out or near like its release date. This is this

1131
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:42,519
part is very verifiable, like this is what is what

1132
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:45,079
it is if you can go back, Oh.

1133
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one hundred percent what it is because

1134
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,400
Da Trek just sent you this ship.

1135
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:52,599
Speaker 1: Yes, this is this is the current shit. So if

1136
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:55,159
you're like, no way they're making this ship up bullshit,

1137
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,920
this is this is our first one and it's a

1138
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,280
reversed universes beyond.

1139
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: Listen, we've never made anything the one truth on Commander Cookout,

1140
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:08,360
tell the uh, what's what's a what's a what's a

1141
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:15,320
synonym for truth? That starts to see the Sea word

1142
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:21,599
control the Information Cookout podcast. Yeah, the information is the truth.

1143
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,039
Speaker 1: Sea Word Cookout Podcast.

1144
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, broad Chief.

1145
01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:30,079
Speaker 1: Look he's back, but he's down at number nine. Now

1146
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,400
good now we yeah, like we talked about him. He's

1147
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,320
the same deck. The deck has technically gotten better over time.

1148
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: But people are wise en up, they're not being such dicks.

1149
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,039
Speaker 1: But people aren't playing him as much. And I, you

1150
01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:44,199
know what, I can appreciate that.

1151
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,599
Speaker 3: Oh let me yes, let me rephrase. The people who

1152
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:50,920
are dicks are still dicking around. There's just less of

1153
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,760
them as an overall function of of how many blue

1154
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,519
players there.

1155
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: Are yeah, and and I mean we still got.

1156
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: Theoretically to go theoretically, Yes, we don't know what cards

1157
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:03,079
seven through whatever?

1158
01:01:03,159 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: Are you yes?

1159
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:10,519
Speaker 3: Or nine through whatever? Okay, em there's Emry again? What that?

1160
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:13,639
Speaker 1: I know we talked about her already too now with

1161
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:16,719
a super cool watercolor secret layer treatment.

1162
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,719
Speaker 3: I did do a full art of that one time.

1163
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,599
It looked very good.

1164
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:25,079
Speaker 1: I believe you. Uh, Emory still came. Well, it's almost

1165
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:27,360
like artifact decks haven't gone away.

1166
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, artifact decks and thopter decks and counterspell decks in

1167
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,519
the last couple of years. Has anything changed with regards

1168
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:35,800
to that?

1169
01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:36,639
Speaker 1: No?

1170
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:43,039
Speaker 3: Oh, have those strategies become better or worse? Or do

1171
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:45,239
different people play them? Do they have a different spot

1172
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:52,239
in the meta? Has anything changed? No? Oh, well, what's

1173
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:59,599
the next card? M mean Wiley illusionist me and Wiley

1174
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:00,800
illusion is.

1175
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,599
Speaker 5: From I don't want to point this Dungeons and Dragons

1176
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:10,639
because Dungeons and Dragons is technically universes beyond technically it

1177
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,679
technically is.

1178
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: But I don't count it.

1179
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,239
Speaker 3: I don't count I don't think people count them.

1180
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,159
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me a little while like after after the

1181
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:21,960
White episode last week, are you counting Dungeons and Dragons

1182
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:26,079
Universe beyond, and I'm not just because Dungeons and Dragons

1183
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:29,480
and nobody started talking about universes beyond with Dungeons and Dragons.

1184
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:32,039
Nobody cared. No, it's like, oh it fits in, so well,

1185
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:33,840
this is just a different thing that I know, So

1186
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,639
I'm not counting it. They don't count. This isn't a

1187
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,679
U B card. I think, I take the gathering card.

1188
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:42,000
It just so happens to be a named character from universe.

1189
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,159
Speaker 3: And it goes both ways, right, Like you can play

1190
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:48,199
Dungeons and Dragons and have campaigns that exist in magic worlds, yes,

1191
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,480
and not magic Dungeons and Dragons world no, like Ravnika. Yes,

1192
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,920
it's very specifically a magic world. Yes, So it goes

1193
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,719
both ways. They're synonymous. They're made by this people are

1194
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,039
the same groups of people's.

1195
01:03:02,239 --> 01:03:05,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what does this thing do. It's it's a

1196
01:03:05,719 --> 01:03:09,599
one three one three norm wizard for blue blue one.

1197
01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:11,920
Whenever you draw your second card each turn, there it

1198
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:14,599
is create a one to one blue illusion creature token.

1199
01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:16,639
With this, creature gets plus one plus zho for each

1200
01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:19,000
other illusion you control, So the more you do it,

1201
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,840
the bigger they get.

1202
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 3: It sounds like carnstruckts.

1203
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,559
Speaker 1: Whatever illusion you control each shit, you may put a

1204
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:26,360
permanent card with man of value less than are equal

1205
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,320
to that creature's power into play for free.

1206
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,239
Speaker 3: It's actually good. You just gotta you've gotta draw multiple

1207
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,519
cards every turn, and when you do, you get big

1208
01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:38,480
bigs and then when they die, like I don't know,

1209
01:03:38,599 --> 01:03:43,559
sacrificing them for value incremental or huge in this case,

1210
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:45,440
huge because you get shipped from your hand that you

1211
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:50,280
drew for free. Yes, I think this card's actually good.

1212
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:54,079
I think that it takes your whole deck working together. Yeah,

1213
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,800
to do the thing.

1214
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: You got the Rube Goldberg machine to draw two cards

1215
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,800
on four separate turns.

1216
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 3: And what I like about the sacrifice the thing, Yes,

1217
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:09,679
what I or block to gain virtual life. This is fine.

1218
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,480
What I like about this is it doesn't do the

1219
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:16,320
same thing. I'm not using twenty five counter spells of

1220
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,880
my deck. I'm not doing artifact fiddliness. I'm not doing

1221
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,400
you know, blink for value, draw card ETB get a guy,

1222
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,519
put a counter on sacrifice, get a guy, get a

1223
01:04:25,519 --> 01:04:27,360
good counter on untapped, Like, I'm not doing that.

1224
01:04:27,519 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: First time we've seen that in blue right.

1225
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 3: Now, on this list, on this list specifically, first time

1226
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,400
we see not doing that to get your value is

1227
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:45,159
this one pree value is you may play permanent card

1228
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:47,559
with man of value less than an equal to creature's

1229
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:51,880
power from your hand, and that could be you.

1230
01:04:52,159 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: You just put it in.

1231
01:04:53,119 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, any big blue fucking dumb idiot yep consecrated Sphinx, dinosaur, omniscience,

1232
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:07,039
sea creatures, omniscients because yeah, that card's not not a

1233
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:10,360
blue card at all, doesn't let me cast my alternate

1234
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,760
extra turn spells for free.

1235
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,639
Speaker 1: I know what he would do that? Yeah, insane?

1236
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,119
Speaker 3: Okay, so this this bucks the trend a little bit,

1237
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,519
though it does give us like kind of a carnstruct equivalent.

1238
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah he can whatever tis what tis? Yes, Oh telleran

1239
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,480
sky summoner, And the coolest version of him I could

1240
01:05:34,519 --> 01:05:38,519
find is the etched foil, the dirty, stink and rotten

1241
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,960
covered in dust and then driven over with the floor

1242
01:05:42,039 --> 01:05:46,480
polisher version of talleran sky Summoner. I know, I know,

1243
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,800
we talked about him already. Let's go to the next one.

1244
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,920
We all know why Talarand is still around. It's very obvious.

1245
01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 3: And I think he gets better as spells get better.

1246
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: Correct.

1247
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 3: That's why I don't think spells are getting better. But

1248
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:01,760
there's goods that go in your Talaran deck.

1249
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: That's why I would argue he is higher than the

1250
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:11,000
counterspell guy. His counterspell guy was numbered nine.

1251
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: Counter Spells aren't getting better than counterspell and manadrain.

1252
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying.

1253
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: But but spells you want in your Talaran deck are getting.

1254
01:06:17,559 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: Better, yeah, general instance, in sorceries, there's a lot more

1255
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,800
like kill a guy.

1256
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,039
Speaker 3: Aren't there spells that are better than fucking brainstorm and

1257
01:06:25,079 --> 01:06:26,960
pong afy and and.

1258
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,599
Speaker 1: Not better than, but equal to I would say the exist.

1259
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: Or maybe just divergent from and I can do something

1260
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:41,760
that's actually fucking interesting now, which I think is cool.

1261
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: Sure, But like if you can do the thing like

1262
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,639
you got pong a Phi, then they do reality shift.

1263
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,519
The cloak one, the Cyberman one, the salamander one, right

1264
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:55,480
like they're all the same thing. They cost two. They

1265
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:57,400
kill a creature. You play all five of them, and

1266
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,519
all of a sudden, now you're playing talarrand because all

1267
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:01,519
of your things say kill a thing plus make it

1268
01:07:01,519 --> 01:07:02,599
two to a flying.

1269
01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:04,679
Speaker 3: Can kill a thing, get a thing, get a thing? Yeah,

1270
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:10,800
you're you're yeah, yeah, I don't think that that's a

1271
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,519
spell is getting better. I think that's getting redundancy in

1272
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,920
a spell slot that's good in this deck. Yes, and

1273
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,119
and that's why he stays more relevant.

1274
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,679
Speaker 1: And I would argue that's why that's why Blue I

1275
01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:23,960
think stays the way that it is the top ten

1276
01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:26,679
then versus the top ten. Now, I think becomes not

1277
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,679
a spell is getting better, it's it becomes a Oh,

1278
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,360
we don't want to reprint pong a phy, so let's

1279
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:36,199
just kind of let's tweak it and let's reprint pomify,

1280
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:41,440
you know, and we're gonna I think you'll see, you'll see.

1281
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,559
Speaker 3: Okay, you'll see. You mean, there might be more that

1282
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:44,119
are the same.

1283
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1284
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1285
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:46,039
Speaker 1: Maybe they will be.

1286
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,519
Speaker 3: Maybe they will be. Who can say.

1287
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: Back the grand grand eloquent, Yes, is a one for

1288
01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:01,320
you read him. He's this is even the art that

1289
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,360
you own. You're welcome.

1290
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't play this art.

1291
01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:05,039
Speaker 1: You should.

1292
01:08:05,079 --> 01:08:06,599
Speaker 3: I play OGR.

1293
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: Because I fucking gave it to you, So you should

1294
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:08,480
play this one.

1295
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:12,039
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what if I what my butt with it?

1296
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:17,279
Speaker 1: Oh man, you're so lucky you have a darkness print

1297
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:22,640
visions Griffin Canyon because okay, do you know what I'm

1298
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,520
gonna hang on?

1299
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to know.

1300
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you how many I have.

1301
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 3: Okay, good, that's what I don't want to know.

1302
01:08:28,119 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna wait for you to go away literally

1303
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,479
this summer, like die, no, be out of your house

1304
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,479
this summer. And I was going to get the dude bros.

1305
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,079
And I was gonna go to your house. I was

1306
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,880
to your backyard with my dark missprint visions Griffin canyons

1307
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,479
and explode them. Yes, I was going to attach them

1308
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,399
to a firework and shoot them off in your backyard

1309
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:56,359
and blow them all up. But then somebody fucking sent

1310
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,920
one to you. And now that means less. I still

1311
01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:06,000
might do it. We don't know, but I might still

1312
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,720
do it. So be aware. You might get a noise

1313
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,159
complaint while you're away.

1314
01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes this no my neighbors would come okay good, they'd

1315
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,640
be like, what are you doing? Some nerd shit, like

1316
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:16,800
is there beer?

1317
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: Well there? I might not bring beer for everybody.

1318
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:22,199
Speaker 3: Like well no, but if there's if it's a beer

1319
01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:24,079
drinking occasion.

1320
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: Oh there, it will be okay, okay good. That might

1321
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,520
be a thing that happens that I can I come. No,

1322
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,880
oh no, you absolutely cannot be there. Gary can come?

1323
01:09:33,079 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 3: What if I show you my dark misprinted Griffin canyon,

1324
01:09:36,039 --> 01:09:39,760
you accidentally hook it up with a fish hook to

1325
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,920
a fucking Roman candle and then shoot it at me

1326
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,319
like it's baseball practice, and I hit it, and I

1327
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:48,760
hit a home run with a fricking Griffin Canyon with

1328
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,640
a brewvac tape to my bat.

1329
01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: Do you think I could convince Rebecca give me a

1330
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,720
key to your house so while you are gone, I

1331
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,079
could go into your home.

1332
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:03,199
Speaker 3: You could pillage my basement.

1333
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: On camera, on camera and get it.

1334
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 3: In some countries, you can't pillage basements on camera.

1335
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: You go to jail, and then on camera after I've

1336
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,319
pillaged your basement of you're a darkness print vision Griffin canyon.

1337
01:10:13,399 --> 01:10:15,960
I could attach it with the rest of the darkness

1338
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,159
print vision of Griffin canyons that I own to that

1339
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:19,159
firework and that.

1340
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,359
Speaker 3: Yes, you're gonna tape them there like frickin' fins like

1341
01:10:23,399 --> 01:10:24,760
on the fucking Artemis two.

1342
01:10:25,359 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I watched that launch and I I wanted,

1343
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:30,720
I want to do my own.

1344
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,319
Speaker 3: You're gonna send some Griffin canyons to the moon.

1345
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: To the moon, but I don't want to listend to

1346
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:35,920
the moon. I want to send them just far enough

1347
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,880
where they fucking blow up and fall down to the

1348
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:42,159
ground in flames, like the Challenger. That's what I want.

1349
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 3: That's a dead dark joke.

1350
01:10:48,039 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: We're get canceled like Jim Cornette.

1351
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,279
Speaker 3: Ah once I get canceled like every late show.

1352
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 1: This represents the mono blue.

1353
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 3: I haven't I haven't read it yet.

1354
01:10:58,319 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: Read the rest.

1355
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: It's a one for human Wizard, human advisor. My bad

1356
01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:07,079
doesn't die of the lightning bolt, by the way for

1357
01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:13,199
three and if an opponent would mill one or more cards,

1358
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:18,279
they mill twice that many instead. Freaking good this card.

1359
01:11:18,319 --> 01:11:20,039
It's like one of my favorite cards. I know it

1360
01:11:20,079 --> 01:11:24,840
is human relevant, advisor relevant to me. Three Manna right

1361
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:30,640
in that sweet spot exists, very very very important to Yeah,

1362
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:34,079
a man. This card slaps fucking one card combo with

1363
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,039
like maddening cacophone.

1364
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,039
Speaker 1: Madden the cacophony and traumatize. And I think there's one

1365
01:11:40,039 --> 01:11:40,520
other one.

1366
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 3: There's a couple that mill half and then you round

1367
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,880
it up and some of them are rounded up, some

1368
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,720
of them are rounded down, so they get one draw

1369
01:11:47,119 --> 01:11:51,399
maddening cacophony. They don't. It always gets them, and that's great.

1370
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,920
Madd in the cacophony costs two, so you can find

1371
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,600
it with like muddle the mixture and muddle the mixture

1372
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,359
also finds cyclonic rift because it costs two.

1373
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:01,039
Speaker 1: So this is matta.

1374
01:12:01,119 --> 01:12:02,079
Speaker 3: Drain also costs too.

1375
01:12:02,359 --> 01:12:05,279
Speaker 1: This is the This is the legit I would, I think,

1376
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:07,039
and you can back me up on this, because maybe

1377
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:10,000
I'm wrong. I would say this is the de facto

1378
01:12:10,119 --> 01:12:14,680
mill commander, even though I would also argue there is

1379
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,319
a better one.

1380
01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:20,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is This is the blue mill commander,

1381
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,439
And if you want to do mill, this is the

1382
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,000
guy and he does the one thing, and this is

1383
01:12:26,039 --> 01:12:29,840
the thing that he does if you want to do mill,

1384
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:34,640
by just playing like infinite manna in blue and make

1385
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,079
you like stroke you for a million, like that's probably

1386
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:40,960
I would love that. Probably a better deck, I don't know,

1387
01:12:41,279 --> 01:12:43,159
Maybe it isn't. I play Stroke of Genius in this

1388
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:45,560
deck and there's infinite combos in it. I could stroke you.

1389
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,239
I'd rather stroke myself for ten Yeah, that's all it takes.

1390
01:12:49,279 --> 01:12:52,239
Really stroke myself ten times. I probably have enough to

1391
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:55,800
beat you. The socks full you Wow, mine's not. But

1392
01:12:58,279 --> 01:12:59,039
here what the next one?

1393
01:12:59,079 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: Ryan? This card slaps like the sock with the.

1394
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,199
Speaker 3: Next on the sock once it's all freaking crusty.

1395
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,279
Speaker 1: I played this guy too, Yes you do. I knew

1396
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:13,199
you were gonna like blue or for the all form?

1397
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:15,600
Is it three to three for blue and three Changeling

1398
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,560
shape Shifter has all creature types? Is what that meant?

1399
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,760
Whenever you cast an interest or source to be spell,

1400
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,399
there's a blue thing. If it targets one or more

1401
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,199
permanence you control, create a token that's a copy of

1402
01:13:27,239 --> 01:13:30,760
the targeted permanence, and there's, of course there's more. Whenever

1403
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:36,600
spell or ability an opponent control, discard discarded card, create

1404
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,840
a token that's a copy of target permanent.

1405
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,359
Speaker 3: The first one is very sorry. The last ability is

1406
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,479
very irrelevant because not often do they play things that

1407
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,600
make you discard, like anti turgrid Tech came from the

1408
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,159
same set, yeah, or yeah it was in the same

1409
01:13:56,159 --> 01:13:57,960
block or the same standard environment.

1410
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what the fuck is happened?

1411
01:13:59,399 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 3: But it's for is target my lord? Because he's every

1412
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,800
creature type you play, all the mere lords, all the

1413
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,439
murpholk lords, all the dragon lords, all this lord, all

1414
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,960
that lord, all the bunny lords, all the jerk off lords,

1415
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:18,479
all the yeah yeah, and then you just target them

1416
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,760
with untap your guy, so you get two of them.

1417
01:14:22,319 --> 01:14:24,439
Untap your guy, buy back. You get two of them,

1418
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:29,159
and I get my spell back and you gain incremental

1419
01:14:29,239 --> 01:14:35,920
value that turns into Eggro value instead of card advantage value.

1420
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,479
Some people combo with them because it's buy back and

1421
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,399
man and you can cast things over and over and

1422
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,800
over and make a whole team of guys and then

1423
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,119
a Chroma's memorial or some way give them haste and

1424
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:48,439
then attack. And that's that's a fine way to do things.

1425
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: Infinite manna with a capsize and a lord will get

1426
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,800
you infinite damage.

1427
01:14:54,279 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 3: That'll do, Pig that'll do, And that's great. If you

1428
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,479
don't play infinite combos, you can still get incremental value

1429
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,159
down the Eggro avenue. And that's why I like this

1430
01:15:06,199 --> 01:15:09,479
guy is he's doing the blue thing. I'm casting an

1431
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,920
instance sorcery. I'm copying something, all right, but I'm gonna

1432
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,680
hit you with morpholk and I'm gonna probably hit you

1433
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:17,560
for like twenty a turn.

1434
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,239
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say I'm gonna say this for for blue.

1435
01:15:20,359 --> 01:15:23,159
This one does say your shit. So it does encourage

1436
01:15:23,159 --> 01:15:26,560
you to do the blue thing, but on your own stuff. Yes,

1437
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,119
you're not bouncing other guy's stuff, you're not doing whatever,

1438
01:15:29,159 --> 01:15:32,479
and you're still doing that probably, but like, it encourages

1439
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,079
you to interact more with your own board than everybody else's.

1440
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,800
So like and I think that though, I think that

1441
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:44,560
that deserves to be pointed out. Yeah, that deserves mentioned

1442
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:45,439
that that that.

1443
01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:48,239
Speaker 3: Can I and you know what, I like this guy.

1444
01:15:48,319 --> 01:15:50,359
We haven't mentioned this a whole ton in the Blue

1445
01:15:50,399 --> 01:15:54,239
episode so far, despite how long it is. This guy.

1446
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,840
I have seen lots of decks of this guy. I've

1447
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,359
played with it, I've played against it. I've seen I'm

1448
01:16:02,359 --> 01:16:04,960
not gonna I'll say more competitive versions, but I don't.

1449
01:16:05,039 --> 01:16:07,600
I don't mean c Edh or Var, So don't jump

1450
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,800
on me in the comments or do. I don't care.

1451
01:16:11,279 --> 01:16:15,680
I've seen ones that play target to copy. I've seen,

1452
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:21,319
like instance, in Sorcery versions of clones, so you actually

1453
01:16:21,319 --> 01:16:24,079
get two clones like a cackling counterpart and or Var's

1454
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:30,000
trigger yep. I've seen ones that do lords like mind you,

1455
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:35,840
lords of every variety, Wizards, mirror, Murpholk yep, Drakes, dragons, everything,

1456
01:16:36,319 --> 01:16:39,960
I've seen ones that are pretty hard and fast draw

1457
01:16:40,079 --> 01:16:43,760
go control decks that will target your guy might like

1458
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,640
my own guy at the end of player forced turned

1459
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,079
to make value at the end of your turn, so

1460
01:16:48,119 --> 01:16:50,439
I can on tap with a guy with virtual haste

1461
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,439
who's maybe a man odorc or something.

1462
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: Sure.

1463
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 3: So I've seen a bunch of different versions of this deck,

1464
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,399
and I like how agro control combo. You've got the

1465
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:09,520
main three archetypes there, clone, my turn, your turn. There's

1466
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,239
a bunch of different builds yep. And I think that

1467
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:18,760
is a testament to modern design of magic.

1468
01:17:19,039 --> 01:17:19,199
Speaker 1: Yep.

1469
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's just common to this card

1470
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,640
in blue. I think as we go through this arc,

1471
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,079
the modern cards are going to have lowercase M more

1472
01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:33,199
modern cards than now. Cards are going to have those

1473
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:38,039
multiple avenues of build that we can talk about.

1474
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:40,279
Speaker 1: And I agree with that. I agree with that.

1475
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think first one that.

1476
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:44,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is cool.

1477
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's cool. Or of our clone deck, you would

1478
01:17:48,319 --> 01:17:49,159
play the ship out of.

1479
01:17:49,079 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: That absolutely because your.

1480
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 3: Instant in sorcery, clone, spells action clone twice.

1481
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: Yep.

1482
01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 3: I think it's great.

1483
01:17:56,199 --> 01:17:57,279
Speaker 1: I think so too cool.

1484
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe we've got another card.

1485
01:18:03,119 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 1: It's the mine, it's the mind Skinner.

1486
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:06,279
Speaker 3: You're not.

1487
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: We all knew, I don't know. You obviously didn't know. Fuck,

1488
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,840
I played a shit out of this. It's a ten

1489
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,359
one for three, he's a ten to one. All three

1490
01:18:15,399 --> 01:18:18,439
of those are blue. Can't be blocked if a source

1491
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,039
to control would the damage to an opponent prevent that damage,

1492
01:18:21,039 --> 01:18:23,560
and each opponent mills that many cards. We talked about

1493
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,039
the blue Mill deck. I think that mind Skinner is

1494
01:18:27,079 --> 01:18:27,880
probably just.

1495
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,199
Speaker 3: The this is blue aggro, this is blue voltron Agro.

1496
01:18:32,399 --> 01:18:34,039
I'm not I don't give a shit about mill. I'm

1497
01:18:34,079 --> 01:18:37,199
hitting you for ten or twenty or forty. And it

1498
01:18:37,399 --> 01:18:40,640
just so happens that the card says, actually your opponent's

1499
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,960
deck is how much life they have instead of twenty

1500
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,920
or forty. Yeah, oh fuck.

1501
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: I like this card, like I think people we've talked about,

1502
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,239
and I don't want to downplay it. I don't want

1503
01:18:51,279 --> 01:18:52,800
to just skim over it. But I think that the

1504
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,560
mind Skinner is a card we've talked about lots and

1505
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,840
lots in the thing. We already talked about the mill strategy.

1506
01:18:57,359 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: And blue and this one's on rails because it's eggro.

1507
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:03,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, people, know how the mind skinner works. They know

1508
01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:06,159
how to do it, but they want to do the

1509
01:19:06,199 --> 01:19:08,640
mill thing. But they don't want to do the mill thing.

1510
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,199
They don't want to do what's his name, avac dramatized.

1511
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:14,840
They don't. They don't want to do that. They want

1512
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,960
to Well, I'm so smot, I'm blowing blue. I'm gonna

1513
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,239
play the mind skinner because you're a good egg roll

1514
01:19:20,359 --> 01:19:21,039
just disorders.

1515
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 3: Do you know what I think it is? I think

1516
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,079
that nice oh double you'd see if you're watching on YouTube.

1517
01:19:28,119 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: What should be I have?

1518
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,239
Speaker 3: If I was gonna build Uncle Brando a mill deck,

1519
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:38,399
I would build an or Var deck. Sorry, I'm a

1520
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,359
fucking mind skinner deck. Orvar on the brain. Well, I

1521
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,319
I gotta get skin on the brain. I would build

1522
01:19:44,319 --> 01:19:47,039
a mind skinner deck because it doesn't play like a

1523
01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:52,279
traditional mill deck. It plays pump spells, it plays efficient creatures,

1524
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,680
it plays equipment that gives double strike for example. It

1525
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:01,760
does all that stuff. And when you go all in

1526
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,239
on any strategy doesn't matter if it's combo or like

1527
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:10,760
drago control or stacks or eggro. If you go all in,

1528
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,159
you are putting yourself on rails. You are writing a

1529
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:18,039
script that you just have to play out on stage

1530
01:20:18,279 --> 01:20:22,039
until you win or you die. And the Mind Skinner

1531
01:20:22,079 --> 01:20:25,600
is very much like that. But I like it because

1532
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:31,000
it ain't freakin' green or red sure or gruel or

1533
01:20:31,239 --> 01:20:32,520
or ractose or whatever.

1534
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: Not red or green or gruel. Sure. Yeah, I don't

1535
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,680
feel attacked at all. In two weeks, I'm gonna show

1536
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,520
you how good cards aren't.

1537
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: Yes and lost on a lot of people too. Is

1538
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,520
this card's first line of text. It can't be blocked,

1539
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:58,520
prevent that damage. Each opponent mills. It's an enchantment creature. Yeah,

1540
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,840
there's there's so many weird words and phrases on this card.

1541
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:02,840
And that's the other thing.

1542
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 1: Is in the picture he's a glove.

1543
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 3: He's giving you the fucking glove.

1544
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,159
Speaker 1: Like the If you look at the picture, he's a glove.

1545
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,840
And then when you look at like the bigger he's

1546
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:18,760
a glove. He's he's like the hand. And yeah, people dead,

1547
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,680
people dead. Two with the hand, I cut it off

1548
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,520
at the wrist and he changed his hand off. The

1549
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,560
hand tries to kill him, deaf, sit in his own mouth.

1550
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,239
Same thing he didn't, he didn't well the hands.

1551
01:21:27,079 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 3: He does now he does now. And you know what, man,

1552
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,560
I think it's fricking awesome. I love and okay, second

1553
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,479
one in a row. We're seeing a lot of weird

1554
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:43,640
phrases and abilities that allow for creativity. He's an enchantment.

1555
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,079
Put him in your enchantment deck. I know that takes

1556
01:21:46,119 --> 01:21:47,319
him out of the command zone, but.

1557
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,159
Speaker 1: It takes him out of the it takes him out

1558
01:21:49,159 --> 01:21:49,439
of blue.

1559
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 3: He's he's a ten to one. That's weird.

1560
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: Put him in your red deck with fucking.

1561
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:00,359
Speaker 3: Damage can't be prevented. Then he hits you for ten

1562
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,920
put a fucking imfect on them. Hell yeah, skull crack

1563
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,039
hitch you for ten flash in a fucking tainted pack. Die.

1564
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:10,039
Yeah fuck, that's pretty cool.

1565
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:13,279
Speaker 1: I just thought that would be pretty good. Yeah yeah.

1566
01:22:13,319 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 3: And then they test protection. You go, it doesn't work

1567
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,119
like that. Damage can't be FORGID to take infect and

1568
01:22:18,119 --> 01:22:19,039
you've got ten counters.

1569
01:22:19,039 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: You die. It's true. See the next one, rhyan.

1570
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 3: Oh. I thought this was neazahal.

1571
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,399
Speaker 1: It looks like na Hall, but it's illuge the Shoreless Sea,

1572
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:37,640
which is a star star for blue blue Blue one elemental.

1573
01:22:37,159 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: Fish Ah, that's creechure time you haven't seen yet.

1574
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: Power on top of its equal to number of islands

1575
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:43,479
you control.

1576
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 3: Cool.

1577
01:22:44,039 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: Whenever it enters or attacks, you put a flood counter

1578
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,479
on target, target.

1579
01:22:48,199 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 3: Land, target, basement.

1580
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,399
Speaker 1: It's an island in addition to its other types, so

1581
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,199
you can turn lands into islands as well. The first

1582
01:22:56,239 --> 01:23:00,000
instance of sour Story you cast each turn costs blue

1583
01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:04,359
to cast for one each land you control with a

1584
01:23:04,399 --> 01:23:05,439
flood counter on it.

1585
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 3: Mind Skinner's listening. Yes, I don't actually own this card.

1586
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,000
I wish I did, because it goes straight into mind

1587
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,159
Skinner A four to four for four that makes more

1588
01:23:14,279 --> 01:23:19,079
guys into islands. This is a weird one, but I

1589
01:23:19,159 --> 01:23:22,399
know that it's again got a lot of weird fucking

1590
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:23,439
words on it.

1591
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:28,399
Speaker 1: It makes counterspell costs none. Oh, I like that, that's

1592
01:23:28,399 --> 01:23:30,600
what it I think that's why it's so high, because

1593
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,520
it makes your counterspells, all of them become better than

1594
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:41,279
force of Will. After two, if it enters and attacks

1595
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,920
and stays in play, counterspell becomes better than force of will.

1596
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:48,800
And force of Will is a card that people are

1597
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:54,760
dreading every single time they play a spell in magic.

1598
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:00,279
Speaker 3: All my counter spells can has force of will.

1599
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: Yes, better than Force it will because you don't have

1600
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,640
to lose a life or exilent card from your hand

1601
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,279
better than force it will.

1602
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just come to tear.

1603
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lose plus lightning grieves make counter spell better

1604
01:24:13,119 --> 01:24:16,119
than force of will, and I hope people who do it.

1605
01:24:16,159 --> 01:24:19,039
But once he's attacked and stays in play, yes, it

1606
01:24:19,159 --> 01:24:20,119
is so shut up.

1607
01:24:22,399 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: Do you have this card? Yes, you're gonna trade my

1608
01:24:25,039 --> 01:24:26,760
Darkness printed Griffin. Can you for it?

1609
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

1610
01:24:29,279 --> 01:24:35,079
Speaker 3: Maybe we can talk. Maybe we can talk. I don't

1611
01:24:35,079 --> 01:24:38,479
own this card and I want it in at least

1612
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:46,000
two decks. Yeah. The card's good, and I think it

1613
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:48,760
falls back to the trend of just the counterspell dot deck,

1614
01:24:49,119 --> 01:24:51,399
but this is the modern iteration of it where it

1615
01:24:51,399 --> 01:24:55,960
could also do extra things because it's this postmodern. We've

1616
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,960
got a print commanders that have literally eighty six lines

1617
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,399
of text.

1618
01:24:59,319 --> 01:25:04,119
Speaker 1: On makes all your other stuff just costs less.

1619
01:25:04,399 --> 01:25:06,159
Speaker 3: This guy's getting high up that we must be getting

1620
01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:06,920
close to one, and.

1621
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,399
Speaker 1: Flood counter isn't the most difficult. There's other cards that

1622
01:25:10,399 --> 01:25:14,079
you flood count as well, so like el you's got

1623
01:25:14,119 --> 01:25:14,800
support yo.

1624
01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a card from Mirroreden that puts flood counters

1625
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,920
on brick there's no spreading seas.

1626
01:25:22,039 --> 01:25:24,199
Speaker 1: Is spreading seas, no spreading seas.

1627
01:25:24,279 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 3: Just it just makes it.

1628
01:25:26,079 --> 01:25:28,239
Speaker 1: But there are other things that do flood counters anyway,

1629
01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:30,560
so it's not unheard of that it can be.

1630
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,039
Speaker 3: I'll take it things, I'll freaking take it.

1631
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: You will bottom all again, we're at number one of today.

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What a surprise. It's still Zain for all the reasons

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that we talked about, and not only is the number

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one card in Blue stillers. If you're watching on YouTube,

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which should be, you will notice that they went to

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the man in Final Fantasy a mano, Yoshi Taka to

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Yoshi Taka a mano. If you're in the in the West,

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to create a new art for the most popular Blue.

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Speaker 3: Commander, that they went to the man and made it

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a girl.

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Speaker 1: Yo Tara is the best main character in Final Fantasy.

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Bro Like. People might argue with me.

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Speaker 3: About that, but I'll that's a hill you'll die on.

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Speaker 1: That's a hill I will okay, we love dying on.

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Speaker 3: Hill's a command of cookout.

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Speaker 1: And this is cool card. We've already talked about it

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about why Ariza is the thing, but think about this,

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how many universes beyond begin how many in the top ten.

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Speaker 3: Uh two?

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Speaker 1: Was it? Two?

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Speaker 3: This is so? Does does that count?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay? We got Leonardo da Vinci And then we got

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one more, right, Leo and my boy Leo, Yeah, Leo.

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And then if you count the frickin' min Wiley illusionist

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from Dungeons and Dragons, which we don't, and then a

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reskin and how many repeats did we have? Yes?

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Speaker 1: In Blue, yes, there was like four reprints a re

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recurring and if you incurred the eleven, which is why

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I did it, Like Blue hasn't, I would say that

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Blue has changed the least. But it had a tertiary

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strategy that had two commanders printed into it brew back

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in the mind Skinner. They got support that people enjoyed,

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and so they went straight into the top ten. And

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you can really see the evolution.

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Speaker 3: Of also tertiary strategies. Or you could just do aggro.

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You could just do aggro with with the Mind Skinner

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and or var. Yeah, like that's not even tertiary. That's

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like one of the pillars of match.

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Speaker 1: The gathering, and Blue can finally do it. That's fricking awesome, right,

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So when you look at the I think that overall,

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I would for me. Of the two that we've looked at,

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we've looked at two colors. I think that Blue has

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grown the least and the most. Ooh, that's not the most.

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It's by far them. I'll bet you we don't see

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another color that has this many rebreaks, repeats. I haven't

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seen the other three yet, but i'll bet you we

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don't see as many as many meats going ahead.

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Speaker 3: That is one of the things that I was actually

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just gonna say for my sort of final thought is

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it doesn't feel like it's stagnated because I know that

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there's other things for me to do in Blue than

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just try to play the controls deck like it's nineteen

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ninety six. Again. Yeah, I'm not going to do that.

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And even if I am playing the control strategy while

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sitting at the table, maybe I'll be attacking you with

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a ten one. Maybe I'll be trying to mill combo you,

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and it's actually a combo deck that I'm just trying

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to stay alive with. Maybe I'm playing a clone deck

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and I'm working with mirrors and merfolk and all the

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bullshit that Morvar does. Sure I and also I've got

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a soft spot in my heart for blue, because I

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think it's the most rewarding color when you when you

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get past all of the bullshit and the baggage and

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the stigma. I really do think that it's the funnest

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and most rewarding because it allows you to express outside

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of just the most powerful set of cards that have

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ever been printed see Force of Will and mocks Fricking

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Sapphire on Erza and Temporal Aperture and friends that were

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all banned at a standard also printed on Yeah, exactly

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that we're all banned at a standard, that all go

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in the Erza deck as if it's nineteen ninety eight

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again and it's combo freaking Academy Summer jerk off whatever

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it was. Right, when you get past all that but

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nobodybody else has, and you can still win by not

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doing that thing, it's very rewarding. And for that reason

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I'm okay with seeing a lot of reprints in the

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top ten because some of those cards, and some of

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those reprints and modern card design gives you the opportunity

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to not do that thing, even though people are expecting

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that you do or that you are.

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Speaker 1: We talked about sixteen cards there on if anyone if

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anybody wanted to play those sixteen cards, where could they

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did trade in a mind over matter for store credit

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one time. There you go, and then I used said

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store credit with CCO Nation promo code. Saved money even

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though I was using store credit, So it it works

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that way.

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Speaker 1: Do you think think that Black will have the same

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trend line where it's gonna be lots of repeats, only

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one universe is beyond card? Do you think because so

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far one universe is beyond card in the top ten

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of the now So anybody who says all universes beyond

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is taken over?

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Speaker 3: So far it hasn't.

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Speaker 1: It kind of hasn't even really because.

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Speaker 3: Black Black sniffed my crack. That's what I think.

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Speaker 1: Anti Venom was at like four or five. Yeah, Leonardo

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da Vinci was at fucking ten. I think. Do you

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think Black is gonna be in a different next week?

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Speaker 3: May I hope we see some zombies, That's what I hope.

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I hope we see uh man, We're gonna maybe see

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some demons. Maybe see some demons, So universe is beyond demons, Yes,

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lots of them. Are they better than Razakath and Frickin'

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yog Moth? No, I don't think so they're not.

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Speaker 1: Will we see any of them next week in the episode?

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Speaker 3: I hope so.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you because I've gotten all the information

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sent to my personal emails that Ryan can't possibly look

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at spoil it. I'm gonna tell you. I'm just saying

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that I'll see it and you won't, so that when

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we come back to talk about Black, you won't be

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You will not have any prior information good and I

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will only have the most tertiary information. What's gonna happen

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in Mono Black? On the next exciting episode of Oh

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Maner look Out podcast, it ar

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Speaker 2: Sor