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<v Speaker 1>It's Dick Gabriel taking a little bit of time off,

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<v Speaker 1>so we thought we would replay some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>interviews from over the last several months. Please enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the Big Blue Insider. There's got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of response again to the Coaches round Table, not the coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Chain Gang roundtable that we had here in

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<v Speaker 1>the garage. Whenever we get the Chain Gang, which is

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<v Speaker 1>our text chain group, Darren Hedrick, Keith Madison, Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame coach Doug Flynn, who of course is my partner

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<v Speaker 1>on UK baseball telecasts, and of course Darren's a radio

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<v Speaker 1>voice of the Baseball Wildcats. They get to get in

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<v Speaker 1>the garage. We have so much fun talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of baseball, sports in general, life, in general, music

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<v Speaker 1>and it just kind of free wheeling, and it's four

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<v Speaker 1>friends sitting together talking sports. And I always get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of response on social media. So we're glad you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the Encore presentation. We may roll it out again

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<v Speaker 1>this summer, but we'll get together again summer before the

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<v Speaker 1>football season begins. Coming up tonight is a pack show

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the holiday week. Jeff Picorol is going

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<v Speaker 1>to join us. I should say rejoin us. He is

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<v Speaker 1>back from vacation as well, our UK Sports Network football analyst.

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<v Speaker 1>He and his brothers and a friend flew to Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>for some fishing, and Jeff sent me some pictures both

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<v Speaker 1>during and after. Spectacular as you might expect, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find out a little bit more if you like the fish.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a fisherman. I just didn't grow up

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<v Speaker 1>with it. My dad died when we were young. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he was a fisherman or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he was, but I was never really exposed

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But I will tell you this. One day

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<v Speaker 1>in Maine with a buddy of mine on a drive trip,

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<v Speaker 1>we went lobster fishing. Got on the boat at five am,

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<v Speaker 1>got back about one in the afternoon. I learned all

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<v Speaker 1>about lobster fishing. One of those damn things almost took

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<v Speaker 1>off a piece of my finger, but that's a story

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<v Speaker 1>for another day. That's the extent of my fishing. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been on a couple of boats where we threw some

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<v Speaker 1>lines in the water, but that's about it. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be great to hear Jeff talk about not just Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>but Kentucky football as well, because Jeff I think, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to cover SEC football media Days for WTVQ next

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<v Speaker 1>week in Dallas. I'll be down there as well late

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<v Speaker 1>in the week when the Wildcats are there. Aaron Gershan

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<v Speaker 1>will join us. He's heading for Dallas as well. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get caught up with him on recruiting and other things.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of recruiting news out there right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>also Max Godbees speaking of football. Max really I put

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<v Speaker 1>him on the air a long time ago on this

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<v Speaker 1>radio station. Since then, he and his wife have moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Louisville and he is working as a regular guest,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, full time co host on a segment or

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<v Speaker 1>two each week on ESPN six City. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how often he's on the air over there, but he

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<v Speaker 1>in Louisville. But he reached out to me because he

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<v Speaker 1>is and another guy at the radio station are marketing

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<v Speaker 1>merchandise and it's really different, it's really unique, and he

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a link to the Round Daddy link of merchandise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the nickname of the co host from the radio station.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you like UK merch that's different, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like it. And I can't wait to see how much

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<v Speaker 1>of this merch shows up at Kroger Field this season,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see it in the stands when UK and

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<v Speaker 1>U of L play, because even though the show that

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<v Speaker 1>Max appears on with the host that is a primarily

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<v Speaker 1>U OFL slanted radio station, but Max and James Streeble

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<v Speaker 1>do a more of a UK show, so they are merchandise.

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<v Speaker 1>Are pushing this merch both UK and U of L,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of vintage stuff as well. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and we'll hear more about that from coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>In hour number two. I mentioned recruiting and over the

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<v Speaker 1>last week in the holiday weekend as well, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of news of late which you might expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the biggest literally and figuratively is in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>the big Blue Wall, Jemial Atkins, one of the top

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<v Speaker 1>man is he big six ' eight two ninety and

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<v Speaker 1>he committed to the Wildcats during the holiday weekend. He

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the best in the country and Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Woolford Vince Merrow helped reel him in. They worked together,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the Corona's brother's reeling in big fish. They

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tech, to Minnesota, a number of other schools, West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona State. But this was a highly anticipate, hated decision

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<v Speaker 1>and the Wildcats got him. So now that's another lineman

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<v Speaker 1>who committed over the weekend, will go along. You may

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<v Speaker 1>have heard about Caitlin Edwards, a D lineman four star guy,

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<v Speaker 1>so to keep building on the D line. He's six four,

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<v Speaker 1>three thirty. He's from Dyersburg, Tennessee, and he chose the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats over Auburn, Louisville, Memphis, among others. Brad White had

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<v Speaker 1>and I tell you what an wash Stuart, not just

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<v Speaker 1>with the recruits but with the coaching is really getting

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<v Speaker 1>come after him. They'll have to work to hang on

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<v Speaker 1>to him. And it's what's been the most interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>with me was hearing former players who go to practice

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<v Speaker 1>and who played with or know anwar Stuart. I have

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<v Speaker 1>not heard one person and who didn't rave about it,

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<v Speaker 1>not just say yeah, he's doing a decent job. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they've raved about the job he is done. But the

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<v Speaker 1>person in the pudding look at the job they did.

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<v Speaker 1>And over the weekend I recorded a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>off UK Takeover Day on the SEC Network, including the

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<v Speaker 1>two football games that went over Florida when Ray Davis

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<v Speaker 1>went crazy and it went over Louisville, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>laid up for that game. I was there for the

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<v Speaker 1>Florida game, but I was laid up for the Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>game after open heart surgery. I missed three games. The

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<v Speaker 1>first two no problem. I missed Alabama, yeah, South Carolina Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I missed the Louisville game. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>great football game. And I'm not saying that simply because

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<v Speaker 1>that goes back and forth, and both teams make big plays,

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<v Speaker 1>impressive plays. It's a great football game. And even the

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<v Speaker 1>announcement I listened when I watched it live. I listen

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<v Speaker 1>to our radio broadcast Tom and Jeff, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Jarman filled in for me on the sideline. So

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<v Speaker 1>this time I listened to the TV guys Joe Testitour

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<v Speaker 1>think Testatur is one of the hidden gems at ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about playbo play guys. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't hear his name enough. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but he works in primetime games as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that guy is tremendous. And they both did

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<v Speaker 1>a great job on that game. They were well prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>You could tell they've done their homework, and the great

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<v Speaker 1>the game lent itself. You know, it's very very not

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<v Speaker 1>very often. It's very rare that you see a great game.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're watching a network broadcast or regional broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>moment as well. I also pulled up the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>this past Super Bowl when the Chiefs win it in overtime,

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked a week or two ago about our

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasters need to find the time and the inclination to

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<v Speaker 1>what we call layout on TV now not radio. Well

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it on radio as well, like when

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Scully would lay out it for a big play

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball. If ever they're called for a moment when

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<v Speaker 1>announcers should just shut up. It was at Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Nance had a great call, he said, jackpot on the

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown past to mcole Hartman. But what happened next Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Romo starts running his mouth and I'm not a hater.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a huge fan of his, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a hater, but I hated what he did. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>just started blubbering and blabbering instead of just letting the

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<v Speaker 1>pictures take over. And I wasn't the only one. I

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<v Speaker 1>complained immediately on social media and a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>people did too. But that reminded me of that game.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, in the uk U of L game, Jessa,

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<v Speaker 1>Tor and Palmer knew when to shut up, when to

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<v Speaker 1>let the picture do the talking, and when to do

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<v Speaker 1>their talking. And I'm going to talk to jepicor more

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<v Speaker 1>about this, but it reminded me of obviously just how

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<v Speaker 1>great Ray Davis is, and as great as he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>at Florida game. Think back to the big plays he

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<v Speaker 1>made against Louisville, but also a lot of defenders, the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive line I was talking about anymore. Stewart tremendous,

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<v Speaker 1>Trevin Wallace, the linebackers, Eric Jackson. Kentucky played a great

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<v Speaker 1>football game and pulled the upset. We all think Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>should be favored and as better than U of L

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<v Speaker 1>that day. Remember now, Kentucky was six and six going

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<v Speaker 1>into the game or six and five, and Louisville's top

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<v Speaker 1>ten Lowe was going to play the ACC championship. Gabe.

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats pulled the upset. They were the better team that

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<v Speaker 1>day and it was a great football game. We're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the best of the Big Blue Insider. More to

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<v Speaker 1>come here on six point thirty WLAP. It's Dick Gabriel.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Best of the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to Mark Pope and his family. They finally found

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<v Speaker 1>a place to live off Paris Pike, not far from

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<v Speaker 1>where I used to live, but kind of a world away.

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<v Speaker 1>They live right next now to Lectioningdon Country Club off

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<v Speaker 1>Paris Pike, eleven and a half acres about four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half million dollars. Good for them, money well spent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really pretty over there, so not quite the high

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<v Speaker 1>profile place that John Caliperry and his wife enjoyed on

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<v Speaker 1>Richmond Road, but you know they've got their privacy gated community.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for them. Wanted to bring up a couple things

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<v Speaker 1>that I had noticed on the interweb on my Google machine,

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<v Speaker 1>basically on X. Couple things real quickly, Bronnie James is

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<v Speaker 1>going to dominate the headlines and we're gonna get sick

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I already am. But it's funny. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy on X trying to make the point. As the

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<v Speaker 1>guy goes by Apex Jones and he posts a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff about the NBA, and he was complaining, and

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<v Speaker 1>rightly when you talk about results. The coverage of Bronni's

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<v Speaker 1>game against Sacramento Summer League now Lakers versus Kings, Bronnie goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he starts, goes for four, two and two, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course dominates the headlines. And this guy made the point

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<v Speaker 1>that players like Adonnis Arms and Blake Henson, who did

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<v Speaker 1>much better, should have gotten more attention. But we got

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<v Speaker 1>to remember this ain't about Bronnie and his numbers is

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<v Speaker 1>about Daddy. You know, the entire story is not this

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<v Speaker 1>kid who at one point was they thought he had died,

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to make an NBA team. It's nepotism and

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<v Speaker 1>its finest. They in no surprise, they draft him to

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<v Speaker 1>try to keep Dad. And now he's on a two

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<v Speaker 1>way with the Lakers and he will probably take a

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<v Speaker 1>job from somebody like Adonna's Arms. And you're like, who

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<v Speaker 1>first time came in week three when stevee got loose

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<v Speaker 1>under it during the broadcast. And of course the other

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<v Speaker 1>so for a little while that day they were by

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<v Speaker 1>two team in the country lost time and time and

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about number two this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, keep in mind that season began with app State

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four point underdog, but you had all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five game home winning streak for Southern cal Trojans

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<v Speaker 1>and one, went to the Orange Bowl under Mark Mangino.

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube. Type in craziest college football season and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find it. You're listening to the best of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider more to come here on six thirty WLAP. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Dick Gabriel and you're listening to the best of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider. Joining us now is a voice

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<v Speaker 1>from our past, Derek Terry, who has covered sports in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. He now has a job in the private sector,

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<v Speaker 1>but dipping his toe back in the water. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the creator. I believe you. Are you the creator of

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<v Speaker 1>Batcat Central. I am yeah. All right, Well, welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, and tell everybody before we start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about UK Baseball and beyond, about why you decided to

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<v Speaker 1>dip your toe back in the water and tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about Batcat Central.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I actually started back at Central back in January

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three, and I started it at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd been out of sports riding full time for about

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<v Speaker 3>a year at that point, but still enjoyed riding still

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<v Speaker 3>right for my day job, so I've never really lost

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<v Speaker 3>my love for riding, and I tried to think of

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a pathway I could take to still cover

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<v Speaker 3>something that I liked, and that was kind of what

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<v Speaker 3>I came up with from sub stack. And it's the

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<v Speaker 3>platform a lot of journalists who are full time and

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of gravitated towards it. It's a really good platform,

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<v Speaker 3>so kind of the idea behind it, though at the

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<v Speaker 3>time was just to try to help fill avoid you know, Dick,

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<v Speaker 3>When I was a beat rider, you know, I covered football,

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<v Speaker 3>I covered basketball, covered some baseball. That's how the job

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<v Speaker 3>is if you're covering it. So my thought was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>these people who they do a very good job on

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<v Speaker 3>the UK beat, they can't always get around to baseball

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<v Speaker 3>until you know, maybe men's basketball's over. So my idea

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<v Speaker 3>was I kind of wanted to. I thought I could

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<v Speaker 3>be good at it. And this this spring, I just

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<v Speaker 3>I went out to the ballpark song and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>how people were very excited about this team, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this could be a way that if I

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<v Speaker 3>really invest a lot of time and energy and try

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<v Speaker 3>to make it like a true part time job, I

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<v Speaker 3>might have something I can work with here. And so far,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been very pleased with the reception. I mean generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>if that someone's not heard of it. It's a newsletter,

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<v Speaker 3>but also there's it's a website as well, So if

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<v Speaker 3>straight to your email, h it can do that, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's also a website where I have a full list

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<v Speaker 3>of their high school commitments to scattering reports stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>I've not really seen done before. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>covering UK I've got a roster tractor going and and

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<v Speaker 3>just all the stories I've written are all on there.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's it's kind a pretty good reception so far,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hope to keep growing it and I hope

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<v Speaker 3>to cover Kentucky baseball. You know, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>deeper level because I think the circumstances of this past

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<v Speaker 3>and then really just I think grow the excitement even

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<v Speaker 3>from the fans who have been watching it for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Your resume includes the Rivals Network, two four seven Sports. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking deep dive, you know, agencies when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to covering UK sports. So was this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like riding a bike for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it kind of was.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've always loved riding, I always loved covering

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<v Speaker 3>sports man. It's kind of published for the first time

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<v Speaker 3>when I was in high school. It was for a

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<v Speaker 3>little blog, but you know, no one really read, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was still kind of my intro. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a journalism degree, and like I mentioned, I

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<v Speaker 3>worked for the city government. That's just fun job. Still

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's the right stories, just in a different way.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're not sports stories anymore. So I've never

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<v Speaker 3>really lost my love for riding, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>this was an avenue to be really uh be really centralized.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do have a great deal respect but a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the beat riders in my friends, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>people I'll still talk to you, so they do a

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<v Speaker 3>great job. I think there are a lot of really

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<v Speaker 3>good rid on the uk B, but I just thought

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<v Speaker 3>there was I don't really have the I'm just like

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<v Speaker 3>baseball is my favorite sports what I like writing about.

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<v Speaker 3>But I couldn't make this work if I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>try to cover basketball or football. There's no way I

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<v Speaker 3>could do a better jobs. And the people are there

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<v Speaker 3>every day because you know, I do have a day

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<v Speaker 3>job and this is just something I do on the

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<v Speaker 3>sides in the evening. So I make it work when

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<v Speaker 3>I can. But I had invested a lot of time

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<v Speaker 3>these last three weeks and into doing this and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's something that that will be pretty good and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to see where it goes. So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 3>to see what it looks like six years from now

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<v Speaker 3>or six months from now, as I work through the

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<v Speaker 3>fall and try to do that, because you know how

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<v Speaker 3>it is, there's not a whole lot that gets that

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<v Speaker 3>You know, It's it's kind of most people's attention turn

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<v Speaker 3>to those fall sports. But I hope to try to

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<v Speaker 3>provide some stuff that people will find compelling and then

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<v Speaker 3>to keep their on baseball all through the off season.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned how you were at the ballpark and you

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<v Speaker 1>began to kind of you reclue in on what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. It was excitement. What did you notice this year?

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<v Speaker 1>And when did you start noticing? It was at the

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, after that Kinnasall State Series, I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>That I wrote.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I wouldn't say my expectations were low. I

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<v Speaker 3>to get back to the intu A tournament. And really

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<v Speaker 3>for the Kentucky baseball program, making an into a tournament

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<v Speaker 3>appearance is a good season. They had never gone back

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<v Speaker 3>to back into a tournament, so looking at what they

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<v Speaker 3>had coming back looking at just where the program was

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<v Speaker 3>they got. You know, they lost one coach last year

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<v Speaker 3>with Willicogna, but but by and large the staff is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the same and as a good group of

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<v Speaker 3>players that were coming back. So this felt like reasonable expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>to leave, So that was the day that I can't

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<v Speaker 3>remember what exactly the record was for the team, but

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<v Speaker 3>they'd started off so well and it was just a

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<v Speaker 3>normal Sunday game, but the crowd is great and people

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have a really good chance to host. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>things are going very well for them. So just noticing

419
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<v Speaker 3>all the excitement with the team, I mean, the fan

420
00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.359
<v Speaker 3>base thoff. I really brought it this year and showed

421
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<v Speaker 3>really what Kentucky Proud Park was intended to be whenever

422
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<v Speaker 3>they opened it back in twenty nineteen.

423
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was going to ask you that because that

424
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<v Speaker 1>was my next question. It's interesting how this all came

425
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<v Speaker 1>together at Kentucky Proud Park. This is what they had

426
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<v Speaker 1>in mind, was it? And I mean you've been to

427
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<v Speaker 1>the Cliff, you knew that. You know, they they had

428
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<v Speaker 1>hosted regionals there before, but it was a pretty tight

429
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<v Speaker 1>squeeze and they had this kind of thing in mind

430
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<v Speaker 1>when they built KPP.

431
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<v Speaker 3>They did it and close I can say it was

432
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<v Speaker 3>very charming, I thought, I mean, it had a really

433
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<v Speaker 3>good despite being outdated and not not great by SEC centers,

434
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<v Speaker 3>it was still I thought, a pretty good spot to

435
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<v Speaker 3>watch a baseball game. But yeah, Kentucky Proud Park I

436
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.440
<v Speaker 3>thought held up remarkably well the Tennessee series. I don't know,

437
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.799
<v Speaker 3>maybe I'm not sure the operations were as great that night.

438
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that they were expecting as big of

439
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 3>a crab, but by the time that the Regional got

440
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.119
<v Speaker 3>there in the Superrio I went to the Super Regional,

441
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.119
<v Speaker 3>it was it was great. I thought the ballpark was

442
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<v Speaker 3>set up very well the way it's designed, allowing people

443
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<v Speaker 3>to bring in chairs or blankets or whatever they might

444
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<v Speaker 3>want to have right. Plus the outsold seaza got at it.

445
00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it made for a really good environment and

446
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<v Speaker 3>it made you know, the content sh lines moved quick.

447
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think they probably won quite a few

448
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:05.720
<v Speaker 3>returning people because I mean there were people. I heard

449
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<v Speaker 3>a woman who was sitting behind me, she's never been

450
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<v Speaker 3>to a game at all before, waiting in line. I

451
00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 3>think she was a student. And we had to I

452
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<v Speaker 3>mean we had to line up. We went in the

453
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<v Speaker 3>outfield entrance and we were wrapped all the way around,

454
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<v Speaker 3>like down near the soccer stadium. I mean, it was

455
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:20.839
<v Speaker 3>crazy how many people are waiting to get in there.

456
00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 3>And the line moved very quick. But I think with

457
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<v Speaker 3>all these people who maybe came up to the ballpark

458
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.240
<v Speaker 3>for the first time or were just looking for ways

459
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 3>to pass the time in the spring, I mean, I

460
00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:31.839
<v Speaker 3>think we're going to have a maybe a new generation

461
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<v Speaker 3>of fans who really cared about it and want to

462
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<v Speaker 3>get involved. I think it'll be an easier so down

463
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<v Speaker 3>the road. I think, whether it's next year or future years,

464
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<v Speaker 3>the next time Kentucky has a team that people are

465
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<v Speaker 3>very excited about, I think you'll see big crowds, probably

466
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<v Speaker 3>even sooner than what just happened this past year.

467
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<v Speaker 1>I always really enjoy it when when crowd fan bases,

468
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>crowds realized their power, their strength. I mean, I remember

469
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Tubby Smith's best team was was in three. You know,

470
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<v Speaker 1>due respect to the team they won the national title,

471
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>but that team that won twenty sixth straight, fans realized

472
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>we can help this team take over. And of course

473
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>during the Fatino era, the same thing happened.

474
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

475
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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's it's a lot of fun when

476
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>that happens. And I really believe that those games you

477
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<v Speaker 1>talked about, Derek and the Tennessee series, the Vandy series,

478
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I think the Kentucky fans took some ownership, you know,

479
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and realized, hey, we're part of this now. That makes

480
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<v Speaker 1>a big difference, doesn't it.

481
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<v Speaker 2>It does.

482
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<v Speaker 3>To have all those people Like whenever I saw all

483
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<v Speaker 3>the time it was gonna be nine pm, I thought

484
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<v Speaker 3>it was like a type. Originally, I was like, surely

485
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<v Speaker 3>they're not actually gonna start this game and I'm pm

486
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<v Speaker 3>Eastern time, but you know, they hadocated to the West

487
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Coast goal and all was good and it's not. It

488
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.480
<v Speaker 3>did not dissurb people at all. People will showed up.

489
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<v Speaker 3>I think they actually set the record again that night.

490
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<v Speaker 3>I think that's currently the the ballpark record. And so

491
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<v Speaker 3>I said that, you know, back to back ninth and

492
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<v Speaker 3>I do. I think the Crawdnede cleared out a little

493
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:02.960
<v Speaker 3>bit more, but that's to be expecting enough. People had

494
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:04.359
<v Speaker 3>to get up the next morning, go to work and

495
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<v Speaker 3>then do all that. But the people who made it

496
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 3>out and say, I mean, you were rewarded and that

497
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 3>was kind of I think that's a good point you

498
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 3>mentioned to. I think this team play this season and

499
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.759
<v Speaker 3>to see kind of what they had accomplished even though

500
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 3>the game was tied there in Game two at the

501
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 3>end and you're witnessing something you haven't seen before. I

502
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.839
<v Speaker 3>was thinking about kind of old UK football games where

503
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.519
<v Speaker 3>you always just kind of and I hate to say

504
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:30.160
<v Speaker 3>this because they I think Mark Seams has done a

505
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.880
<v Speaker 3>tremendous job really kind of resetting kind of how we

506
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 3>think about some things. But whenever you watched some of

507
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:37.079
<v Speaker 3>those UK football games, it's like he just kind of

508
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 3>waited for something bad to happen. And it was baseball

509
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 3>this year. Even though it had never happened and they

510
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.200
<v Speaker 3>had never made it that far, I never really got

511
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>that feeling. Even whenever it was close there in the

512
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 3>bottom of the nine, it was just like, I feel

513
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 3>like they're going to win it.

514
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<v Speaker 1>You know.

515
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<v Speaker 3>It just just feels like the team that is going

516
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<v Speaker 3>to get the job done. So it was really, uh,

517
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.359
<v Speaker 3>it was a bit of an odd thing, I think,

518
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.640
<v Speaker 3>to witness something that had never been done. One just

519
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 3>watching it, three regional at hosted by Kentucky, and then

520
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 3>two playing a i'll call him the traditional power in

521
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Oregon State. They won severalles. I've been alive playing you

522
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>know program, it's very good and not really feeling any

523
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 3>kind of pressure. Like I just felt great about Kentucky

524
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 3>winning that series. It was really kind of a different feeling,

525
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 3>but a very rewarding one as well.

526
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 1>I think Derek Terry is my guest. Derek was a

527
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 1>veteran of the UK Beat till he moved to the

528
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 1>private sector, but he's back now covering UK baseball for

529
00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 1>a site he created, Batcats Central. We'll come back and

530
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>talk more with Derek in just a minute. You're listening

531
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 1>to the best of the Big Blue Insider. More to

532
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>come here on six thirty w LAP. Hey, it's Dick

533
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Gabriel and you're listening to the best of the Big

534
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider. We're talking with Derek Terry. He covered UK football,

535
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 1>basketball and baseball for two four seven Sports for Rivals,

536
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and now he's back with his regular job. Gives him

537
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.039
<v Speaker 1>a little bit at a time to work what do

538
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 1>you call it, a part time job, and that's creating

539
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Batcat Central, a website, of course devoted to Kentucky baseball.

540
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>And this was a good year to do it, as

541
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 1>we all know, the Wildcats making it to the College

542
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 1>World Series. Now, be honest, when you were working on

543
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the UK Beat back in the day, Derek, did you

544
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>believe Kentucky would ever make it to Omaha?

545
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 3>I thought they had. I thought the twenty seventeen team

546
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 3>was good enough. But in the last segment when we

547
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 3>were kind of talking about the expectations, I'm not sure

548
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I expected that from them, and I wasn't really all

549
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 3>that surprise like that team very much. Felt like just

550
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 3>winning the regionals for the first time ever was kind

551
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 3>of the goal. And you know, Louisville was a really

552
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>good team that year, and I think Kentucky you know,

553
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.160
<v Speaker 3>played I thought they had a respectful, you know, respectable

554
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.000
<v Speaker 3>series showing at that time, but you know, it took

555
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:57.640
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more time to get back, and no

556
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 3>last season. I'm not sure how many teams flash what

557
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 3>are gone down to LSU in one game. I mean,

558
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:06.519
<v Speaker 3>the national champ in that ballpark was gonna be h

559
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 3>was gonna be hard. But yeah, I mean I think

560
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 3>I defy had my doubts. I think most fans did.

561
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 3>I've done a lot of reporting, and the I'll say

562
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe a lot might be an exaggeration. I've done some

563
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 3>reporting in the past, talking to Keith Madison. I believe

564
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 3>I've had a quote from Mitch Barnard at the time

565
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 3>and one of the stories just talking about how far

566
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, the program had kind of fallen behime financially

567
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 3>in the early two thousands, And I really did probably

568
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the best story I've done so far on back at

569
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 3>Centrals with John Cohen, the former coach at Kentucky who's

570
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 3>now at Auburn as the ad and some of the

571
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 3>best stuff he gave me actually didn't make it into

572
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.279
<v Speaker 3>that story. It's something I'm probably going to use in

573
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.240
<v Speaker 3>the future. But just talking about all the challenges, Like

574
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 3>everybody knows about the weather. You know, if you're a

575
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 3>college baseball fan, you understand that the weather is challenging.

576
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.400
<v Speaker 3>At UK, I do think there's this perception that the

577
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 3>talent in state is very good and there are all

578
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's always players that will help you within

579
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:01.279
<v Speaker 3>your state, but the number is relative. Kentucky could not

580
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 3>just build a team out of all Kentucky kids, you know,

581
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 3>the way you probably could in a Florida or even

582
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:09.519
<v Speaker 3>at Georgia or whatever. So that's the challenge as well

583
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:11.079
<v Speaker 3>that UK has that a lot of schools don't have

584
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 3>within their conference. And you got Texas coming in. I mean,

585
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Texas is gonna be the same way, like they would

586
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 3>really probably never have to leave their state to build

587
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 3>a very good team if they didn't want to. So,

588
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, he mentioned some of most challenges, but also

589
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 3>kind of the scholarship roles where there's eleven point seven

590
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>scholarships in baseball and some teams can get away you know,

591
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 3>they can get around that by having some better kind

592
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 3>of in state lottery opportunities. He mentioned I think Georgia, Florida,

593
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 3>and Louisiana, three states in particular in Mississippi as well

594
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 3>where he ended up going after Kentucky and Mississippi State

595
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 3>that also had pretty good advantages. So there were a

596
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 3>lot of things historically Kentucky was up against, and I

597
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.440
<v Speaker 3>think it's been minimized an extent. I wrote a story

598
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 3>on that too. Kind of talking about the recruiting is that,

599
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, the facility now is great. I don't know

600
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 3>where it ranks nationwide, but Kentucky Baseball is not going

601
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 3>to lose a kid because the facilities they are good enough.

602
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure how many they're going to get just

603
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:04.799
<v Speaker 3>because of the facility, or how many of those kids

604
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 3>you would probably want to take if they're just basing

605
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 3>their decision on that. But you also have the winning

606
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 3>piece now or they've been to home Hall. So I'm

607
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 3>gonna be very curious to see kind of what happens

608
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 3>moving forward, And it might take you know, a year

609
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 3>or two for that uptick to kind of take place.

610
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 3>But what do the recruiting classes like in twenty twenty seven,

611
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 3>for twenty twenty eight, whenever you have, you know, these

612
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 3>middle schoolers that will one day be getting recruited. You

613
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 3>know what did they think about Kentucky versus what those

614
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 3>same kids around those days? Is what a thought five years.

615
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Ago, right right? And I've got to think that. Like

616
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you said, I if somebody wants to come just for

617
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 1>the stadium, that's not the right reason. But that can

618
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 1>be the closer, can it. I mean, if all things

619
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>are equal, and you've got to picture yourself. I've had

620
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 1>football recruits tell me about how the weight room can

621
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>help them, and I know it's not quite the same,

622
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 1>but we're talking about where you spend a lot of

623
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>your time. And I never really fully realized or understood

624
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 1>the value of the weight room until a player told me.

625
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>He said, Look, you might play in a stadium, you know,

626
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 1>twenty times in your career, you're in the weight room

627
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>every literally every day.

628
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

629
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<v Speaker 1>So when you can picture yourself in a facility like

630
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 1>that that's your second home, it makes a huge difference.

631
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<v Speaker 1>And John Cohen pushed for it, and Gary Anderson did,

632
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and Nick Minjion is reaping the benefits, isn't he.

633
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and that he's think in some ways you

634
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 3>could say, uh, I mean, I think Minjeon is one

635
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 3>of the most fastening, you know, coaches on campus right now,

636
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 3>just this whole career art he came here, I thought

637
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 3>he was maybe the victim, victim, for lack of a

638
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 3>better word, of provision of history that took place during

639
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 3>some tough years for Kentucky because I think over time

640
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 3>it was somehow people just thought that that twenty seventeen

641
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>team was going to be good the whole time, and

642
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 3>that was not the case. The year they were they

643
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>had replaced over three hundred innings on the mountain year,

644
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.440
<v Speaker 3>they had no said, one returning SEC start and it

645
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 3>was Zach Loog in the SEC tournament, so he wasn't

646
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:06.039
<v Speaker 3>even like a normal starter of the year before. And

647
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 3>they did have an ice group of position players. But

648
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 3>you had so many seniors that year like Marcus Carson

649
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 3>and Connor Hetty. Zach Rex is a senior that year.

650
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm forgetting a few others, but a lot

651
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>of guys our career years who played very well. And

652
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 3>then in twenty eighteen they had so many draft pick

653
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>because think they might have even led the country that

654
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 3>year in draft picks, but they didn't make the tournament.

655
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 3>They had a lot of injuries that hurt him. I

656
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 3>think they still had a resume. I mean, look at

657
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 3>how many teams that were thirteen and seventeen in the

658
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 3>SEC this year made I think there were five but

659
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 3>actually made the Instabay Tournament this year. Kentucky went thirteen

660
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 3>and seventeen with the top thirty RPI in two thousand

661
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 3>and eighteen and didn't make it. So it kind of

662
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 3>got used against them for a long time that, you know,

663
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 3>how could you have all these good players and yet

664
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:49.719
<v Speaker 3>not make the tournament. I think they kind of lacked

665
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 3>some contexts. But after that they did have some tough years.

666
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.719
<v Speaker 3>I think from twenty nineteen for twenty twenty one. You know,

667
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 3>those teams just simply were not good enough, and they

668
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.599
<v Speaker 3>made some changes once the portal came around that really

669
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 3>helped them. So they've reached the point now that they

670
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of have everything. I mean, they've showed that they

671
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 3>can win. I think Menjion's done his part and his

672
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 3>staff have done their part to show that this is

673
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 3>the place you can win at a high level. And

674
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 3>then I think a few years ago you know, Mitch

675
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.760
<v Speaker 3>getting that stadium done something I think he'd wanted to

676
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:22.559
<v Speaker 3>get done for you know, a while longer before. I'm sure.

677
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.199
<v Speaker 3>I think they were having conversations about it back when

678
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Cohen was still there.

679
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, that was a carrot on the stick

680
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that he would use to try to keep John Cod here.

681
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, getting money through the legislature and all that,

682
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you know how tough that is. I've only got a

683
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>minute or two left with Derek Terry, who has created

684
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Batcat Central. But one of the selling points, and you

685
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you touched on this early, is you've got a lot

686
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.119
<v Speaker 1>of info about the new guys coming through the portal

687
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 1>now and MinJe On and staff have done an emphasized

688
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 1>staff and so does he have done a marvelous job

689
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.639
<v Speaker 1>building the last two teams with a combination of recruits

690
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and portal kid and that's where we are, as you know,

691
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in college athletics now. So there's a lot of good info.

692
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 1>They got some talent coming.

693
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:10.079
<v Speaker 3>In, Derek, they do, and they're kind of getting guys

694
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 3>every day here here lately. You know, Oliver Boots from

695
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.719
<v Speaker 3>California's right in the pitcher, who just finished his freshman

696
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 3>year I like a wht. I think he'll play a

697
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 3>major role in some regard, whether it's the bullet in

698
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 3>multiating guy or potentially even a starter if he can

699
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 3>win a job. And they got a couple of guys,

700
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.320
<v Speaker 3>I know, we gotta be quick here. The draft coming

701
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 3>up will be a big thing. Jackson Tron from Canisius

702
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 3>and then Ryan Dugo from cal State Bakersfield. Our two

703
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 3>guys that I think would be among the best players

704
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 3>on the team next year if they're able to show up.

705
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 3>The draft that begins, to believe July fourteenth, the first round,

706
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 3>and then it's a three day event. The days two

707
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 3>and three will be the day is to pay attention

708
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 3>to if you'r UK fans, and I have a primer

709
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 3>on that pretty soon, kind of letting people know what

710
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 3>to look for.

711
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I've already mentioned on the air here the

712
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>young man coming in who's transferring from EKU. He is

713
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>coming in off Tommy John. But they got high hosts

714
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>for him as well, and they've had some success with

715
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 1>kids who have come over from Richmond. So it's going

716
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to be fun. And if you keep your fingers crossed

717
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 1>about the weather, because as we know, you mentioned it earlier.

718
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>That's the key, especially in those early games. But you're right.

719
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they won a lot of new fans this year.

720
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Derek Terry batcat central veteran of the UK beat and

721
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 1>now is like I said, dipping his toe back in

722
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the water. Good talking to you again, and we won't

723
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>be a stranger now that you're back covering UK sports

724
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 1>to a degree.

725
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great to hear from me and I really

726
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 3>appreciate you having me back on.

727
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Since that conversation with Derek, a lot has happened with

728
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:40.199
<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky roster and including of course, Tyler Bell, the infielder,

729
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>second baseman, shortstop from Illinois, turning down the Tampa Bay

730
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Rays who took him in the second round and deciding

731
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.519
<v Speaker 1>he will play for the Wildcats for at least a

732
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. Devin Burks said he would come back.

733
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>The veteran catcher, of course, who helped lead the Wildcats

734
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.679
<v Speaker 1>to the College World Series, announced he will return, and

735
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>then Wildcats picked up an intriguing left hander through the portal,

736
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Adam Hotsman or Hawkman. He is a red shirt freshman

737
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 1>from Arkansas. Was a top fifty draft prospect ranked by

738
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Baseball America, but suffered an arm injury. I believe the

739
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Razorbacks believed thought he could or at least hoped he

740
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 1>could pitch this past season and Arkansas had a really

741
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>good team, but he was not able to make it

742
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.119
<v Speaker 1>back before the arm injury. Prior to that, he was

743
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 1>rated Baseball America's number thirty two best draft prospect and

744
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't have Tommy John surgery. That's according to Arkansas coach

745
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Dave Van Horne. In the preseason comments he made when

746
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 1>they were hoping he would come back, but he couldn't

747
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>quite make it back, didn't pitch for the Hogs, and

748
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>now he's a Kentucky Wildcat. More to come right here.

749
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 1>It's the best of the Big Blue and siders stay

750
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>with us on six point thirty wlap. Hey, it's stick Gbriel.

751
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. Our number two

752
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 1>taking a little time off, so please enjoy the best

753
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of the Big Blue Insider Joining us now on our

754
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>celebrity Hidline. One of my favorite people and a teammate

755
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on the UK Sports Network. Former UK All Conference defensive

756
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 1>end Jeremy Jarman and Jeremy It won't be long now,

757
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>will it are? You feeling it.

758
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely starting to get the emotion again. Uh. I

759
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:03.719
<v Speaker 2>was able to get on the website and download the

760
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.079
<v Speaker 2>schedule onto my calendar, so, uh that was a nice

761
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>little addition that you Can Athletics added to the site,

762
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 2>the ability to just kind of plug those games into

763
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 2>the personal calendar. So I think doing that the other

764
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 2>day that really brought, uh brought everything to the table

765
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and brought those emotions full circle. And the times are

766
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 2>slated for the first few games for the first time

767
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:27.239
<v Speaker 2>in my lifetime, I'm pretty I'm pretty excited game.

768
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about that schedule. And I've been saying

769
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 1>all along that and everybody knows the games are always tough,

770
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>it's when they happen. And in terms of early challenges, Jeremy,

771
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 1>this has got to be the toughest that I've seen

772
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>in a long long time for uk Man.

773
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 2>It gets started fast and you know, you think back

774
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 2>some years back when we when we played Southern Miss

775
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>uh in Kroger Field and they had us on the ropes.

776
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh So to start that game out against Southern Miss.

777
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of respect for that program. Really tough,

778
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 2>really tough group of kids that they recruit. I'm looking

779
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>forward to deep diving in there, but then boom, you

780
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 2>turn around the next week and you're right in the

781
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>SEC football play. So I mean there's no margin there,

782
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 2>There's no margin for error, there's no margin for just

783
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of lackluster start because it comes quick this season.

784
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now the ups and downs are you got everybody healthy,

785
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>but you're not quite settled in maybe in week two

786
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 1>or three that you will be mid season. Do you

787
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>have many concerns in that direction?

788
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Say that again, Gave.

789
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 1>When you've got a tough game early in the year,

790
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 1>you're relatively healthy, but you're still trying to figure things

791
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>out with maybe some of the younger players. Are the rotations.

792
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any strong feelings either way?

793
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, when I look at this team and I

794
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 2>look at I look at the offensive line, I look

795
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.320
<v Speaker 2>at the defensive line units, those are the those are

796
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>experienced units for us this year. So you know, ideally

797
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 2>you'd like to think that those are going to be

798
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 2>your strong suits. And when those when those units are strong, game,

799
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to get you don't have to be

800
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>fancy early. You just got to be effective at what

801
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>you want to do and what you want to be

802
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 2>good at and we know markzouts football teams. Offensively, they

803
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 2>want to eat the clock because that's the football. And defensively,

804
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Brad White, he just wants to basically mix it up

805
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.199
<v Speaker 2>and muck it up for these teams. So when you're

806
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>strong up front, like I'm starting to suspect that we

807
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>could be on both sides of the ball, I think

808
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.039
<v Speaker 2>that that's going to help some of the inexperienced players

809
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.480
<v Speaker 2>to be able to ease into gameplay, especially at the

810
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:43.480
<v Speaker 2>quarterback position.

811
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the D line, and that's got to be

812
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 1>an area I would think of strength. Although losing Josiah Hayes,

813
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I really that's that's a real damaging blow. I think

814
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>he may be gone for the year. We don't know.

815
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 1>They just signed a Juco D tackle, but I still

816
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>think they've got quality depth, starting with Dan Walker obviously,

817
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>but he makes everybody around him better. What do you

818
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 1>think of that D line? You know a little something

819
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 1>about d.

820
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Lions, You know, I like this group. I look at

821
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Ripka just continuing to come into his own anticipate him

822
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 2>having a big season. Silver's the guy, in my opinion.

823
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he's the X factor up there on that

824
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 2>defensive line, keeping him on the field, keeping him healthy,

825
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 2>keeping him in gauge. Last year, he got off to

826
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 2>a quick start and then he just kind of, I think,

827
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 2>just kind of things and banged up and he just

828
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of disappeared from the film. And if they can

829
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 2>keep him on the field game he's a super talented

830
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:48.599
<v Speaker 2>d lineman. He's shoes, he's massive, long arm, long, big

831
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.079
<v Speaker 2>broad chest and back. He's a guy that can help him.

832
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Between him and Walker, if both of those guys are

833
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:59.519
<v Speaker 2>playing at their capabilities, it just makes life for everybody

834
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>a little little bit easier.

835
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they got a double team Walker. I mean,

836
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been talking on the air about the

837
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 1>fact that on takeover Day, I don't know if you

838
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>had any time, you're a busy man to just sit

839
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and watch any of those those games that they replayed.

840
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.760
<v Speaker 1>They replayed the Florida win and the Louisville win, and

841
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 1>those guys you've been talking about, especially Walker, they kept isolating.

842
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 1>ESPN did on how U OFL in particular was trying

843
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 1>to one on one block him And it was impossible,

844
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it.

845
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's impossible. There's not a lot of players that

846
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 2>you just come across in college football that just have

847
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>that physique and that stamina, that skill set. There's nothing

848
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.239
<v Speaker 2>you can do in practice, gay to prepare for Dion

849
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Walker if you don't have a guy that's ultimately sixty six,

850
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and thirty pounds and moves as well as

851
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:57.320
<v Speaker 2>as as the best defense into the defense linement in

852
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the country. I mean, he's a unicorn. Yeah, and you

853
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 2>can't simulate that in practice. So you got to respect

854
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>those teams and those programs for allowing their guys to

855
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 2>have the opportunity to try to block these guys, because

856
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it can be a detriment to a player if

857
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>you don't give him the ability to see if he

858
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.719
<v Speaker 2>can block a player one on one, and if he can,

859
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 2>that's a confidence booster. If he can't, then that player knows. Okay,

860
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I need to dig in a little bit more. I

861
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 2>got some film and now I can work towards this

862
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.320
<v Speaker 2>on the offseason. Now I know what an all ses

863
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>he give us to the aligneman looks like. I know

864
00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:37.679
<v Speaker 2>what a potential All American, potential lottery pick defensive lineman

865
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 2>looks like. So you got to give your players a

866
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:44.719
<v Speaker 2>chance versus just saying you can't block the on walker.

867
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're just gonna double We're gonna double teaming today,

868
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 2>So you know there, so there's a couple of different

869
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>ways to look at why you see teams attempt to

870
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 2>block him in one on one situation. But I don't

871
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.239
<v Speaker 2>expect there to be too many players that are going

872
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.360
<v Speaker 2>to be able to do that consistently this season.

873
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't thought about that that if you're sitting in

874
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 1>in the meeting room prior to playing Kentucky and you're

875
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.760
<v Speaker 1>an old lineman, you've got to be saying to yourself, well,

876
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I can take this guy, but unless you

877
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 1>faced him before, you know, how do you admit give

878
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 1>me some help on this?

879
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Right?

880
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>For sure?

881
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:28.239
<v Speaker 2>And for sure? I mean, and there's times, you know,

882
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 2>as a defensive lineman or linebacker, you know, whether it's

883
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.239
<v Speaker 2>a back being able to carry a back out of

884
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the backfield and man the man situations where you're asking

885
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 2>your coach, hey, you know, why aren't you giving me

886
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 2>a chance? I can tackle this guy in space? And

887
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes as a player, that competitor nature has

888
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 2>to come out and you got to say, you know,

889
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I can block this guy. Coach, don't we don't need

890
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 2>the double team. Let's let's try to work up and

891
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 2>you try to do it until you realize that maybe

892
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 2>you just can't. But you know, even in our practice,

893
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, with our players on our team, you know

894
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>they have to double team Dion Walker to be able

895
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 2>to get through practice segments. And when they don't, he's

896
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.880
<v Speaker 2>so disruptive that ultimately Mark has to take him out

897
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:09.639
<v Speaker 2>out of some of the practice sessions.

898
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I remember Stoop's talking about that. That that

899
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 1>got my attention as much as anything where they actually

900
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:20.599
<v Speaker 1>had to take him out of drills because he was

901
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 1>throwing people around to he didn't want to hurt anybody.

902
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I thought it was a little bit of

903
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 2>hyperbole at first, and then as I started to get

904
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 2>in and get over there to practice, and then we

905
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.159
<v Speaker 2>saw the body of work on game days. He's absolutely right.

906
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Deon Walker, it's tough to practice against a

907
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:41.679
<v Speaker 2>guy like that unless the guy that's blocking him in

908
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 2>practice is also a unicorn, are also ultimately a bona

909
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 2>fide pro because he is, he is a he could

910
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>potentially this season we could be saying that he's a

911
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>generational type tighte talent at the defensive tackle position.

912
00:47:58.079 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, be honest with me, and then we'll move

913
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 1>on talking about Dion Walker with Jeremy Jarman. But how

914
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>surprised are you, Jeremy, that he's still here? Let's face it,

915
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.519
<v Speaker 1>we all know we got a nice nil chunk, but

916
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of schools have nil bucks. Are you pleasantly

917
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 1>surprised he's still a wildcat?

918
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. And the reason why that is is because

919
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 2>I know the type of relationship that he has with

920
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the guys in the locker room and also anwar Stewart,

921
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the defensive line coach, and Brad White. But him and

922
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 2>anwar are very close. And you can see the body

923
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.840
<v Speaker 2>of work. I got film breakdown on Dion from game

924
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:39.559
<v Speaker 2>one to present and the buy in the technical that

925
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 2>he's got natural gifts, but you can see you can

926
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 2>see the tools that are being that he's deploying, that

927
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 2>he's being taught by anwar Stewart who was a technician

928
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.960
<v Speaker 2>in college, a technician and professional Canadian Football league. So

929
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 2>he's getting better. There's no reason for Dion Walker to

930
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.559
<v Speaker 2>leave and go to another school for a little bit

931
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 2>more money, because he's he's ultimately he's going to end

932
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 2>up where he wants to be, which is the National

933
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Football League. And he's just he's just continued to just

934
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 2>grow and develop at UK and and and and he's

935
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 2>going to have an incredible junior campaign.

936
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you mentioned Ann War. I was going to

937
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 1>ask you about him. You and so many former players

938
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>who either know him or played with Anwar have been

939
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.199
<v Speaker 1>so complementary of him and supportive of Anwar there. So

940
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 1>you guys are all so impressed with a job he's

941
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.679
<v Speaker 1>doing and obviously the proofs of the putting, But what

942
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>is it about Anwar you think that has made him

943
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.199
<v Speaker 1>so successful at his alma mater.

944
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.639
<v Speaker 2>He's authentic, He's an authentic person and he truly wants

945
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 2>what's best for his guys. And I just see the

946
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 2>relationship when I go out to practice. I go over

947
00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 2>and that's where I like to hang out. I like

948
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 2>this see and War and those guys and their interactions,

949
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's always inspiring for me when I see the

950
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:11.840
<v Speaker 2>best the best players on the team also being amongst

951
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:15.159
<v Speaker 2>the hardest workers on the team, because that from a

952
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.280
<v Speaker 2>cultural standpoint, that's not always the case. Sometimes your best

953
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 2>players are average workers in practice and then they kind

954
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 2>of flip a switch on game day and Dion's just

955
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.639
<v Speaker 2>the guy that he's a grizzly twenty four to seven. Yeah,

956
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's mauling people. When it's time to mall people,

957
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.039
<v Speaker 2>he's malleling them. And they're having to ultimately putting, you know,

958
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.840
<v Speaker 2>taking out of practice sessions in order to be as

959
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.039
<v Speaker 2>productive as they want to be because they're focusing on

960
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the team. So relationships trump everything. And I think ultimately

961
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 2>for these guys they're going to learn is that you

962
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:52.280
<v Speaker 2>can go out and you can go shop around and

963
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 2>you can find the highest price tag. But when you

964
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 2>continue to look at the high level of recruiting that

965
00:50:57.639 --> 00:50:59.480
<v Speaker 2>this staff is getting done, and you look at the

966
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 2>quotes are coming out from the players and from their families,

967
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.639
<v Speaker 2>they say, the facilities are great, you know, the bills

968
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.039
<v Speaker 2>and whistles they're there. But the people, it's the people

969
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:15.159
<v Speaker 2>that I enjoyed, the people that I met, the people

970
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:18.920
<v Speaker 2>that when I'm coming on my unofficial business, the true

971
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:23.320
<v Speaker 2>relationship building that's taking place. And that's why Marcus continuing

972
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to have success in recruiting, and that's why he's also

973
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:29.239
<v Speaker 2>been able to keep some of his top stars being

974
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.079
<v Speaker 2>able to keep them at Kentucky despite us not having

975
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:36.039
<v Speaker 2>the highest NIL offer. I can assure you Dean Walker,

976
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the offers that he's gotten have exceeded probably not probably,

977
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 2>they have exceeded what he's getting at UK. There's no

978
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 2>doubt in min There's no doubt in my mind.

979
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny you say that because he's talking about family.

980
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I've heard more recruits talk about that about on their visit.

981
00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, they just felt a kind of a family

982
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.119
<v Speaker 1>at UK and that facility and from the coaches, the recruiters,

983
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the guys who host them on their visits, and it

984
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 1>seems to be genuine and it's paying off on the field.

985
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.119
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Jeremy Jarman of the UK Sports Network.

986
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.559
<v Speaker 1>We'll come back and talk more with Double Jay's in

987
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>just a minute. You're listening to the best of the

988
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. More to come here on six thirty WLAP. Hey,

989
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 1>it's Dick Gabriel and you're listening to the best of

990
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider. My guest Jeremy Jarman from the

991
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.199
<v Speaker 1>UK Sports Networking and Christy Thomas part of our pregame

992
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>coverage of Kentucky football and it won't be long now.

993
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to a lot of people this summer, Jeremy

994
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that, of course Kentucky is not in

995
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the preseason top twenty fives after back to back seven

996
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:49.079
<v Speaker 1>win seasons, which amazingly have been disappointing to Kentucky fans.

997
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:54.199
<v Speaker 1>But really is it is a mystery at least on offense,

998
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.199
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. When you've got a new OC, a new quarterback,

999
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 1>we don't know who's going to carry the mail in

1000
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the offense to backfield. We think we know, But the

1001
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 1>one thing that you touched on earlier is the offensive line.

1002
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.480
<v Speaker 1>How confident are you with all these question marks on

1003
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the offensive side of the ball.

1004
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those It's one of those things, Dave,

1005
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>is that the players in the talent is there. But

1006
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you, changing coordinators, new quarterback, those are recipes

1007
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 2>for disaster.

1008
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1009
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we just we just have to be honest.

1010
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, statistically, I've seen the articles over the years

1011
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 2>when you see NFL teams change offensive coordinators, they change quarterbacks.

1012
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Those are significant and and there's no different tier in

1013
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 2>mark he has he has somehow he has been able

1014
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:51.239
<v Speaker 2>to manage these these changes with the coordinators as well

1015
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:55.360
<v Speaker 2>as anybody as I've ever seen, because for some head coaches,

1016
00:53:55.440 --> 00:54:00.480
<v Speaker 2>these OC or DC changes they're they're there. I mean,

1017
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.039
<v Speaker 2>they ultimately lead to two coaches getting fired. GM is

1018
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 2>getting fired. But he's been right in picking these coordinators

1019
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:11.599
<v Speaker 2>to come in. He's been right ultimately and finding that

1020
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that signal caller to come in and run the offense.

1021
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 2>So the concern is here is is you know you

1022
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 2>go and you got you got a new OCS coming

1023
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:26.119
<v Speaker 2>in from an outside conference like the scheme, still got

1024
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:30.159
<v Speaker 2>to watch some more Boise film. You have a talented

1025
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>quarterback room. The guy, as you're likely starter, doesn't have

1026
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of snaps under his belt. Gavin Wims that

1027
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.800
<v Speaker 2>is coming in, he probably he may be one of

1028
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 2>the more experienced players in the room. I still think

1029
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 2>that there's gonna be a true quarterback battle in that room.

1030
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't care how many stars, I don't care how

1031
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:51.599
<v Speaker 2>many starters are there across some of these players, But

1032
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I still think that there's going to be an honest

1033
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.199
<v Speaker 2>quarterback battle in Paul Camp.

1034
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's going to be a two man

1035
00:54:58.639 --> 00:54:59.639
<v Speaker 1>battler or three man.

1036
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna see but I'm I'm really intrigued. I think

1037
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.679
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be some storylines that come out, and as

1038
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.199
<v Speaker 2>they should. I don't think that this quarterback, this position

1039
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be handed to someone. Yeah, I think everybody

1040
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 2>knows has an expectation of who they think QB one

1041
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be from the start. But I think that

1042
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be a battle for it. I really do.

1043
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you saying that because of your concern about the

1044
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that, let's face it, we all think Brock vandergriff

1045
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>released a lot of us will be the starter, or

1046
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 1>are you saying that because you believe Bo Allen has

1047
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.559
<v Speaker 1>improved that much and that Gavin Wimsy brings a lot

1048
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to the table.

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00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:42.599
<v Speaker 2>I think Gavin does bring some things to the table.

1050
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's experienced, been one of them we talked about.

1051
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Bobo also has experience. You know, whether he's gonna whether

1052
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:50.960
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be able to push to be the

1053
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 2>push to be a starter in that room, I can't

1054
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 2>make that determination. I think that that's I think that

1055
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 2>that's more unlikely. But I like the experience that Bo brings.

1056
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna see Gabe. I just want to I

1057
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:06.119
<v Speaker 2>want to get out. I want to watch the guys

1058
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of spin it. I want to watch the edge

1059
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.519
<v Speaker 2>rushers come off the edge. I want to watch them

1060
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.480
<v Speaker 2>push the quarterbacks up into the pocket. One of the

1061
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:17.840
<v Speaker 2>things about Bush with these quarterbacks quick release. It's quick

1062
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:23.480
<v Speaker 2>release football, quick reads football, and basically the guy that

1063
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:28.039
<v Speaker 2>thinks that that his brain sees it breathes the coverage

1064
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the quickest. Yeah, I don't think that you have to

1065
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 2>have the most talented arm in the room in order

1066
00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to succeed in Bush's offense.

1067
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>You just got to have the smarts and the release

1068
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and the accuracy, don't you.

1069
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's a lot of

1070
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 2>quick game stuff. It's a lot of stuff off of

1071
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 2>some misdirection, a lot of quick games. And with quick

1072
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 2>game that to me, that benefits that benefits a lot

1073
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:03.880
<v Speaker 2>of quarterbacks. I think that that with good decision making

1074
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 2>that you can really get into a rhythm. And I

1075
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:09.920
<v Speaker 2>think a guy like Gavin, I think he's I think

1076
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 2>that this is a this is a system that he

1077
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:17.079
<v Speaker 2>could potentially thrive in. Obviously Brock as well. So I'm

1078
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.639
<v Speaker 2>just curious to see a little bit more this fall.

1079
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously we didn't get a chance to see

1080
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 2>see a ton. Uh, you know, see a ton from

1081
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 2>from this room. But I'm curious to see what what

1082
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:31.760
<v Speaker 2>ultimately what it's going to look like here in a few.

1083
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Weeks follow up on on the quick release brand of offense.

1084
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not trying to pigeon all anything, but I'm

1085
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:43.639
<v Speaker 1>just curious from your side of the football, does that

1086
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:49.039
<v Speaker 1>benefit a receiving group more one than the other or style?

1087
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Does it mean fewer deep shots? Does that mean fewer

1088
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>checkdowns to running backs or or more patterns for running

1089
00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 1>backs that kind of thing. What should we look for?

1090
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I think what we should look for is a little

1091
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 2>bit of noise in the background. Uh. I think what

1092
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.440
<v Speaker 2>we should look for is is just basically when I

1093
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:18.159
<v Speaker 2>look at this offseason, I look at Coach Short's the

1094
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>new wide receiver coach. I'm curious to see the level

1095
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:29.760
<v Speaker 2>of I think mental toughness, consistency and just route running

1096
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and understand and basically comprehension of of of defensive schemes.

1097
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.519
<v Speaker 2>I think that our wide receiver room under coach Shorts

1098
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:42.920
<v Speaker 2>has the ability to basically take a take a step

1099
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:48.119
<v Speaker 2>forward in terms of IQ football IQ. So when you

1100
00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:50.599
<v Speaker 2>look at some of this quick game stuff, being able

1101
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:54.679
<v Speaker 2>to understand the route tree, being able to read the defender,

1102
00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:57.519
<v Speaker 2>the corner that's in front of you, especially when you're

1103
00:58:57.559 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 2>talking about option routes, being inn seek what's your quarterback.

1104
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:03.079
<v Speaker 2>So when you go back a few seasons and you

1105
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:06.679
<v Speaker 2>look at you look at Onndale Robinson catching one hundred balls,

1106
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:11.559
<v Speaker 2>which is just absolutely just amazing one hundred balls as

1107
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:15.119
<v Speaker 2>the smallest player on the field. It's because of football IQ.

1108
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:18.360
<v Speaker 2>It's because him and Will Levis were so in sync

1109
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and they understood coverages. I mean, those guys just put

1110
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.480
<v Speaker 2>on They put on a clinic a few years ago.

1111
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:27.960
<v Speaker 2>So I'm curious to see if one or multiple of

1112
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:31.599
<v Speaker 2>these guys, with this new quick with this new offense,

1113
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:35.239
<v Speaker 2>if they're gonna take a similar step where they're gonna

1114
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 2>be in sync ultimately with our QB one to be

1115
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 2>able to start to rack up yards, move the chains.

1116
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, a lot of this is IQ, and the

1117
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:47.400
<v Speaker 2>more those guys can comprehend, then the more that can

1118
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 2>be added with the option routes and with the wrinkles

1119
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>that you can put in place off these things.

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00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Wandale so often was it catch and run kind of

1121
00:59:56.079 --> 01:00:00.559
<v Speaker 1>guys that what you're talking about. Yes, good to me,

1122
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Jarmy. I guess we'll come back and talk more

1123
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.199
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky football here in just a minute with Double Jay's.

1124
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>We're listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

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01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 1>More to come here on six thirty WLAP. It's Dick Gabriel.

1126
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Best of the Big Blue Insider.

1127
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:20.679
<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Jeremy jarm and he is in transit

1128
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 1>as he often is, but we took the opportunity to

1129
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:25.920
<v Speaker 1>talk some UK football with him and it'll be here

1130
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 1>before long here Jeremy's coverage along with Christy Thomas on

1131
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.920
<v Speaker 1>our pregame show here on the UK Sports Network. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course the Wildcats again a mystery team according to many,

1133
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:41.400
<v Speaker 1>but that's understandable with all the question marks. But the

1134
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:45.679
<v Speaker 1>one thing we know, Jeremy, I'm fairly confident that the

1135
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.960
<v Speaker 1>defense will give the offense the opportunity to win the game.

1136
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.599
<v Speaker 1>And that's what it's all about him, all right, it is, And.

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01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 2>That's that has been Brad White's calling card since he's

1138
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:02.000
<v Speaker 2>been here. I think I think Brad it's just he's

1139
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:06.639
<v Speaker 2>done a phenomenal job and I'm curious to see how,

1140
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>if any new wrinkles that he puts in, Uh, that'll

1141
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.079
<v Speaker 2>be you know, those will be conversations to kind of

1142
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:15.320
<v Speaker 2>talk with him about. But he's just done a good

1143
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 2>job and I had a chance to sit down with him,

1144
01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and I just always always enjoy, always enjoy seeing how

1145
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 2>he develops inexperienced players and how he continues to just

1146
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:33.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of add to their workload as they grow and mature.

1147
01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.599
<v Speaker 2>And Andrew Phillips being one of those guys who's going

1148
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:40.400
<v Speaker 2>to be missed dearly. But Andrews starting out here as

1149
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:44.679
<v Speaker 2>a guy primarily an inside inside corner, you know, and

1150
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and basically being asked loud stand and and and play

1151
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:51.960
<v Speaker 2>outside coverages. And I asked, Brad, and he kind of

1152
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.159
<v Speaker 2>he kind of got a frown on his face when

1153
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I asked her the question. I kind of felt like

1154
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 2>a parracist what I asked it. But I said, you know,

1155
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.239
<v Speaker 2>you're losing, And I said, does it feel like you're

1156
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.199
<v Speaker 2>losing two players? And he kind of frowned up, and

1157
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 2>then he bounced back and he said you and and

1158
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:10.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, he acknowledged just the importance of that role

1159
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:14.559
<v Speaker 2>that Andrew played, So you know, trying to replace his

1160
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 2>experience and his tenacity and just seeing how he how

1161
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:23.480
<v Speaker 2>he facilitates that and how did players how they handle it.

1162
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.559
<v Speaker 2>So just just a lot. I think he's just done

1163
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.440
<v Speaker 2>a good job. It was huge getting out and being

1164
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 2>able to get to Georgia transfer at the linebacker this

1165
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:36.960
<v Speaker 2>and to come into the linebacker room that was that

1166
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:42.960
<v Speaker 2>was a huge void void filler there. James gonna do

1167
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:47.440
<v Speaker 2>well right next to right next to our guy d

1168
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Eric Jackson.

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01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.840
<v Speaker 1>D jack Down. The stretch was money last year, wasn't he?

1170
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:54.719
<v Speaker 1>He was?

1171
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.719
<v Speaker 2>He really was continuing to grow, continuing to grow. He's

1172
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:02.800
<v Speaker 2>a guy because he's not as fast and twitchy as

1173
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:05.840
<v Speaker 2>some of the other linebacks inside linebackers have been over

1174
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the years. So for him, the pre snap, the pre

1175
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:13.800
<v Speaker 2>snap reads, the post snap reads, being able to process

1176
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that a little quicker. I think that that's what what

1177
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:20.440
<v Speaker 2>what was happening for him is being confident in his

1178
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:25.719
<v Speaker 2>reads and and basically starting to anticipate things versus sitting back.

1179
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:27.960
<v Speaker 2>He didn't have the He doesn't have the natural ability

1180
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:30.760
<v Speaker 2>sometimes to sit back and let something open up and

1181
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:32.960
<v Speaker 2>be able to react and and and get in there

1182
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and get that PBu like like a Trevin Wallace. Yeah,

1183
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:41.000
<v Speaker 2>but but d Jack, he he's a physical player. There

1184
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of experience. Looking forward to seeing him down

1185
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:47.519
<v Speaker 2>in Dallas, uh in about a week or so at

1186
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:49.039
<v Speaker 2>the SCA days.

1187
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he got you know, he's wasn't He's not as

1188
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.880
<v Speaker 1>outgoing as Trevin Wallace was, but he still led the

1189
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:00.920
<v Speaker 1>team in tackles the last couple of years. And I

1190
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:03.800
<v Speaker 1>do believe though. Help let me ask you how much

1191
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:07.599
<v Speaker 1>will he miss playing alongside Trevin wall They had such

1192
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a great relationship, you know, one of those kind of

1193
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.119
<v Speaker 1>unspoken deals where they just knew each other's moves on

1194
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and off the field. But bringing in Pops from Georgia

1195
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:21.320
<v Speaker 1>should help kind of allay that, right for sure.

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01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:23.679
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of that's just going to be in

1197
01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:28.559
<v Speaker 2>camp in the film room, talking through things as you

1198
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 2>start to see what a player is capable of. And

1199
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:37.840
<v Speaker 2>and you mentioned Pop, just another experienced football player, And

1200
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I really think that they're going to sharpen each other

1201
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:45.639
<v Speaker 2>just in terms of just play and alignment and anticipation

1202
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:50.159
<v Speaker 2>of routes and just down in distance, just a lot

1203
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:54.360
<v Speaker 2>of the pre staff communication that happens before the snap

1204
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 2>of the ball. And I think pop is one of

1205
01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:00.400
<v Speaker 2>those guys. He's he's really good at that. You don't

1206
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:02.079
<v Speaker 2>rack up and have the kind of success that he

1207
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 2>has by not having a good, good understanding of the

1208
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.320
<v Speaker 2>game and schemes and what teams are trying to do

1209
01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 2>to you.

1210
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 1>That's work that's done in what you guys call the

1211
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:14.559
<v Speaker 1>film room when you're looking at video right.

1212
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:23.119
<v Speaker 2>For sure. Yeah, that's where a lot of the work's done.

1213
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Sitting back with some flower seeds and the cowboy remote

1214
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:30.000
<v Speaker 2>gave and uh and going through and just looking at

1215
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:33.159
<v Speaker 2>the film until things just start to until they just

1216
01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:36.320
<v Speaker 2>start to click, until you start to see tendencies, You

1217
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:39.800
<v Speaker 2>start to see s friends, you start to see little

1218
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:43.159
<v Speaker 2>pre snap alignments that teams and that players do to

1219
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 2>get subtle advantages. And those are the kind of things

1220
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:52.320
<v Speaker 2>that experience coaches that they that they teach, that they

1221
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 2>teach players, and as players get more and more experienced

1222
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:58.599
<v Speaker 2>than the coaches just basically able to just pour it on.

1223
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean it becomes like a aster a graduate level

1224
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:07.599
<v Speaker 2>of course of the ball. Where Brad Moulhak I like

1225
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:12.239
<v Speaker 2>like the d jack that he wouldn't be having with

1226
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 2>one of the younger linebackers because he's just not there yet.

1227
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I've heard guys talk about learning to watch film. You know,

1228
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:22.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not like you could just sit down and it

1229
01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 1>washes over you, right, I mean, you've you got to

1230
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.119
<v Speaker 1>know what to look for and that kind of thing,

1231
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:28.679
<v Speaker 1>and what the study and what to let go.

1232
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think the main thing is is that now

1233
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:37.920
<v Speaker 2>there's so much there's so much that these offensive coordinators

1234
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:41.440
<v Speaker 2>are throwing as you and they're self scouting. They're making

1235
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 2>sure to try to keep their runs to the left,

1236
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:47.400
<v Speaker 2>run to the right, balance short, intermediate, long range play action.

1237
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.079
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of self scouting where they try

1238
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:54.239
<v Speaker 2>to keep the defenders from being able to guess. But

1239
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:59.719
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, the film, ultimately, you

1240
01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:02.199
<v Speaker 2>just need to have an answer for what teams do

1241
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:06.119
<v Speaker 2>do the best. Yeah, and if they beat you on

1242
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:08.519
<v Speaker 2>some of the ancillary things and you just got to

1243
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:11.400
<v Speaker 2>live with that, but you can't let them beat you

1244
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:13.199
<v Speaker 2>at what they do best.

1245
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, you know, And I remember I think it was

1246
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it was either what he Hayes or Bow, one of

1247
01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:26.400
<v Speaker 1>those two legendary coaches, talked about just that, about attacking

1248
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a team at its strongest point because if and when

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<v Speaker 1>you can break that down. You've broken them mentally and emotionally,

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01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:34.519
<v Speaker 1>haven't you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a lot of psychology behind that. I

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01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:40.639
<v Speaker 2>think some of the old school guys they do such

1253
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.920
<v Speaker 2>a good job of saying those kinds of things. And

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01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:46.280
<v Speaker 2>now you look at a Shun Peyton with some of

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01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the more controversial statements. You know, attack the head and

1256
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the body will die. Well symbolically, symbolically, he's absolutely right.

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01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if a team's run dominant and they've had

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01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:04.239
<v Speaker 2>to sets running the toss suite and you're shutting those

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01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:08.880
<v Speaker 2>things down early, now that team can't get into a rhythm.

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01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:12.039
<v Speaker 2>So now the head of the team, you're offensive coordinator,

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01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Now he's trying to figure out, Okay, how can I

1262
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.479
<v Speaker 2>get the team into a rhythm. Now he has abandoned

1263
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:20.479
<v Speaker 2>what has worked best for the team. Now your players

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01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.960
<v Speaker 2>know that there's some struggles because you're talking about it

1265
01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.960
<v Speaker 2>on the sideline, and now you're starting to cast doubt

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01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:30.960
<v Speaker 2>amongst yourselves of whether this game plan is going to

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01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:34.359
<v Speaker 2>be good today. So there's a lot of psychological chess

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01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:37.960
<v Speaker 2>play that's going on throughout the game in different phases

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01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:40.159
<v Speaker 2>that are you know, that are fascinating and it's fun

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01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to sit back and just kind of talk with guys

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01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>about what it was, what play it was, at what

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01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.199
<v Speaker 2>point there was a sudden change that really kind of

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01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:53.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, blew the door in to either allow a

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01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:56.560
<v Speaker 2>team to get back on track or what it was

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01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:00.239
<v Speaker 2>ultimately that that kind of brought about the defeat. So, yeah,

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01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:03.479
<v Speaker 2>football is a very complex game. It's simple, but it's

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01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:06.680
<v Speaker 2>very complex with the different nuances and alignments that you

1278
01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:11.199
<v Speaker 2>could show. You know, it's fun, it's fun covering for

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01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 2>UK Sports Network game and or we get a chance

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01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:16.640
<v Speaker 2>to sit back and just kind of talk about talk

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01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:17.920
<v Speaker 2>about some of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know what if you can along with

1283
01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:25.640
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, take let's say it is the toss sweep.

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01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Take that away from a team that's really good, and

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01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:30.199
<v Speaker 1>now they've got to be wondered, all right, what do

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01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:34.079
<v Speaker 1>we do now? You know, now you're you're trying to

1287
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:36.720
<v Speaker 1>adjust on the fly, when you've worked all week on

1288
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:39.079
<v Speaker 1>a game plan that suddenly just melted away.

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01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, correct, correct, And it's it's and it's frustrating for

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01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:46.520
<v Speaker 2>a coach, and it can be demoralizing for a football team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can just go you can go back

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01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and you can look at you can look at a

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01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:55.199
<v Speaker 2>game like Florida last year with with uh, I mean,

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01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:02.239
<v Speaker 2>it was just, it was just. It was an incredible game,

1295
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:06.680
<v Speaker 2>an incredible individual effort for Ray Davis, but the offensive line,

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01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:10.399
<v Speaker 2>so many things fell in place. And once you cast

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01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that doubt, once that doubt creeps in and teams and

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01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:17.640
<v Speaker 2>players know, hey, this game plan is not working today.

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01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.560
<v Speaker 2>It's over. Yeah. When the players start to doubt the

1300
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.279
<v Speaker 2>game plan and they start to you know, doubt the doubt,

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01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:30.439
<v Speaker 2>the scheme is absolutely over that afternoon, and so it is. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be fun to see to see how this

1303
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.800
<v Speaker 2>camp opens up, Gabe, and I'm looking forward to the

1304
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Southern miss game to see where to see where Mark

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01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:41.439
<v Speaker 2>and this team are.

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<v Speaker 1>We will wrap things up with Jeremy Jarman on the

1307
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.880
<v Speaker 1>other side of the break. More UK football chatter coming up,

1308
01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:54.079
<v Speaker 1>and you're listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider. Hey,

1309
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:56.359
<v Speaker 1>it's Dick Gabriel and you're listening to the best of

1310
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider. I'm talking with Jeremy Jermy. He is,

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01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 1>of course the former Kentucky defensive and All Conference and

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01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:08.199
<v Speaker 1>now a teammate on the UK Sports Network. You mentioned

1313
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Ray Davis a minute ago and again going back to

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01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:16.079
<v Speaker 1>watch those sec takeover games, a Florida game, the U

1315
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:18.239
<v Speaker 1>of L game, and you remember them, I know, because

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01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you've just been referring to him, and you filled in

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01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:22.439
<v Speaker 1>for me quite capably on the u of L game

1318
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:26.039
<v Speaker 1>when I was out with my little medical adventure last year.

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01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:31.079
<v Speaker 1>But those I think were his best two games. Obviously

1320
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the Florida game where he said records, but the Louisville

1321
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:38.960
<v Speaker 1>game on the road against a higher ranked team and

1322
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:43.479
<v Speaker 1>a team that had clearly geared its defense to stopping

1323
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:46.760
<v Speaker 1>his run game, and yet he found ways both on

1324
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:49.479
<v Speaker 1>the ground and through the air to help Kentucky pull

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01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:53.079
<v Speaker 1>out that upset. It's a lot to ask one guy

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01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:55.319
<v Speaker 1>to come in and fill his shoes, though, am I right?

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<v Speaker 2>There's no one coming in the field of the shoes

1328
01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:04.079
<v Speaker 2>that Ray Davis field. I mean, he had one of

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01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:07.199
<v Speaker 2>he had one of the best running back seasons that

1330
01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I've that I've been able to witness uh in person,

1331
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:13.880
<v Speaker 2>And it was just it was fun to cover him.

1332
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:18.439
<v Speaker 2>He was such a versatile running back. The ability to

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01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:22.079
<v Speaker 2>hit the home run tougher as the season went on

1334
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.039
<v Speaker 2>in terms of being able to get some yards. Some

1335
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:27.159
<v Speaker 2>yards have to contact as well, not in the way

1336
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:31.399
<v Speaker 2>that obviously his predecessors in Rodriguez Snail had, but in

1337
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:34.319
<v Speaker 2>his own way, but its versatility catching the ball out

1338
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:37.960
<v Speaker 2>of the backfield. I mean the seven the seven touchdowns receiving,

1339
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the compliment is almost fifteen hundred yards rushing. And what

1340
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:46.760
<v Speaker 2>an incredible campaign that he had at this last year.

1341
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:51.720
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't have any expectations that that one

1342
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:56.159
<v Speaker 2>person is going to be able to do that to

1343
01:12:56.319 --> 01:13:00.239
<v Speaker 2>replicate that. So I'm curious to see who's who is

1344
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:03.159
<v Speaker 2>of this group. Will he merge? I'm really high. I'm

1345
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:07.520
<v Speaker 2>really high on Demi Demi, Simo Karmba, really high on him.

1346
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I think he's a fantastic football player. I think he

1347
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:12.920
<v Speaker 2>can help us in the run game as well as

1348
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:15.359
<v Speaker 2>the receiving game. I'd like to see if they're going

1349
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:17.880
<v Speaker 2>to utilize him maybe a little bit more and in

1350
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the slock capacity, give him some opportunities there and the

1351
01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:25.399
<v Speaker 2>way NC State did a couple of seasons ago. So uh,

1352
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:28.720
<v Speaker 2>so we'll see there. I think he's very versatile. So

1353
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:32.039
<v Speaker 2>uh but we all know that there's a there's a

1354
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:34.479
<v Speaker 2>there's an open battle there at the running back position.

1355
01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think it's a it's a talented room,

1356
01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:41.439
<v Speaker 2>but we'll see if there's someone that will emerged that's

1357
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:43.720
<v Speaker 2>able to carry the bulk of the shares.

1358
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<v Speaker 1>The one thing we know. We've talked a lot about

1359
01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the mysteries on offense, but the one thing we know

1360
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is Barrion Brown is one of the premier home run

1361
01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:56.800
<v Speaker 1>hitters potentially in the country. And the Dane Key. Even

1362
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:58.760
<v Speaker 1>though he had a couple of drops against Louisville, he

1363
01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:03.880
<v Speaker 1>made some absolute clutch catches for first downs for touchdowns

1364
01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:07.960
<v Speaker 1>against the Cardinals. Those two guys compliment each other so well.

1365
01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Dane has shown growth and maturity from maybe

1366
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the middle of his freshman year on. I think Barrion

1367
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.119
<v Speaker 1>needs to take a big step this year. But I

1368
01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:20.239
<v Speaker 1>keep hearing Jeremy that he is poised and ready to

1369
01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:21.760
<v Speaker 1>do that. Have you heard the same thing?

1370
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I have heard that. And I think that that room,

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01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:31.199
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's a very talented room, and and

1372
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I was, I was very appreciative. I know it's always

1373
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:38.359
<v Speaker 2>tough anytime you have to go different directions from a coach,

1374
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:43.000
<v Speaker 2>from a coaching perspective, but I'm really high on the

1375
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Speaker 2>things that I've read about coach Schortz. I like his

1376
01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 2>background as a player as well, and I'm just I'm

1377
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:56.680
<v Speaker 2>really intrigued to see how his presence will translate to

1378
01:14:56.840 --> 01:14:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the wide receiver room.

1379
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:04.439
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting because generally coaches come in pick up where

1380
01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:08.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody else left off. Uh, this guy, I think he's

1381
01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:13.000
<v Speaker 1>already had a pretty good impression, left a pretty good impression,

1382
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:15.119
<v Speaker 1>a good impact on that room, don't you.

1383
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think so. And ultimately, I think

1384
01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that we'll know for sure here here in

1385
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:28.159
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks game And and I'm eager to talk

1386
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.279
<v Speaker 2>with the players as well and just kind of talk

1387
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:34.000
<v Speaker 2>about some of the differences, some of the differences and

1388
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:37.359
<v Speaker 2>how they feel that they've grown as grown as players

1389
01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and pass catchers. I know at times last year there

1390
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:43.439
<v Speaker 2>seem to there seemed to be just kind of a

1391
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't want to say lack of focus,

1392
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.920
<v Speaker 2>because you know, when you're dropping the football, it's hard.

1393
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:52.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, I never had to catch the football for

1394
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 2>a living, So sometimes with some of those drops, is

1395
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:58.239
<v Speaker 2>it focused, is it you know? Is it good defense?

1396
01:15:58.760 --> 01:15:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Was the ball a little wide?

1397
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:00.680
<v Speaker 1>You know?

1398
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:03.439
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of reasons, but there were times where

1399
01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:06.560
<v Speaker 2>it just seemed like we kind of our receiver room

1400
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:08.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of got into a lull.

1401
01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1402
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1403
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Barrian had that big drop in the back of the

1404
01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:16.439
<v Speaker 1>end zone wide open against the Gators, and Dane dropped

1405
01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the first ball thrown to him against Louisville, but they

1406
01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:22.560
<v Speaker 1>both bounced back and made huge plays, either catching the

1407
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:24.680
<v Speaker 1>ball or on the jet sweep of Barrion Brown. So,

1408
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's interesting that you mentioned coach Schortz one of

1409
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:31.039
<v Speaker 1>the first answers of our interview, and so he has

1410
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>clearly made an impression on you. So that's going to

1411
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:36.159
<v Speaker 1>be interesting. Jeremy. I won't take any more of your time.

1412
01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:39.199
<v Speaker 1>It's always great talking football with you, looking forward to

1413
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that first game as you are looking forward to hearing

1414
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.359
<v Speaker 1>you and Christy break things down. And I'm sure we'll

1415
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:47.439
<v Speaker 1>talk again before kickoff. I appreciate you joining us.

1416
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Gay anytime. Man.

1417
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Love talking football with Jeremy Jarman. And it won't be

1418
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:58.039
<v Speaker 1>long now before we see kickoff over at Kroger Field.

1419
01:16:59.159 --> 01:17:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Something came out the other day. I don't know that

1420
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.039
<v Speaker 1>we saw a whole lot of play. I know I

1421
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't talk much about it because we were wrapped up

1422
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 1>in other things, but the athlon preseason All America and

1423
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:12.239
<v Speaker 1>All Conference teams announced. Used to be Athlon was the

1424
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.520
<v Speaker 1>voice when it came to preseason magazines. Now there are

1425
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.319
<v Speaker 1>so many it kind of gets lost in the shuffle.

1426
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:22.319
<v Speaker 1>But important to note that Kentucky had three preseason All

1427
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Americans on the athlon team. Dion Walker made second team

1428
01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:30.720
<v Speaker 1>of course, Barrion Brown was second team preseason All American

1429
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:35.399
<v Speaker 1>as a specialist, and Maxwell Harston defensive back, was fourth

1430
01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 1>team of course on defense. So three on the preseason

1431
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:42.960
<v Speaker 1>All America team for athlon, and then of course Dion

1432
01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Walker first team for a defense, Barrion Brown first team specialist,

1433
01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Harriston a first team defender. Dane Key was named second

1434
01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:56.439
<v Speaker 1>team on offense, Pop Dumas Johnson's second team on defense

1435
01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:01.880
<v Speaker 1>on the third team, Derek Jackson linebacker, Marcus Cox offensive lineman,

1436
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:06.960
<v Speaker 1>JJ Weaver defensive end, and Eli Cox made fourth team

1437
01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:11.199
<v Speaker 1>as an offensive lineman. So Atlon Man, we couldn't wait

1438
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.119
<v Speaker 1>to get to you know, Kroger or whatever and get

1439
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:17.720
<v Speaker 1>our copy of the Atlon preens. He was on the cover,

1440
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:20.840
<v Speaker 1>on the regional cover, and that kind of thing we

1441
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:25.520
<v Speaker 1>already knew about the Phil Steele preseason All America lists.

1442
01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>That'll do it for now. Thanks for joining us for

1443
01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:30.760
<v Speaker 1>this special edition the best of the Big Blue Insider.

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01:18:31.119 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 1>That's it. Good night from the garage in Lexington, Chang
