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<v Speaker 1>I know how this is going to sound when I

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<v Speaker 1>say it, but I saw a post on the local

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<v Speaker 1>reddit about somebody looking for a cuddler. A cuddler, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to cuddle with. Correct. Okay, I had heard of this before,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that it was a legitimate thing. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>people love like like that. But there's apparently a service

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<v Speaker 1>you can pay for and that people pay and you cuddle.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at the site, they have pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>the latest cuddling buddies. Guess what they all look great?

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<v Speaker 3>What is this?

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<v Speaker 6>Said?

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<v Speaker 1>Cuddlemeat dot com. It's cuddlecomfort dot com. Now maybe there's others.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't sign up because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want this in my search history. I don't mind. And

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<v Speaker 1>it says that you sign up, you find a near

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<v Speaker 1>cuddle buddy, you message them, you don't have to explain

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<v Speaker 1>what you need, and then you meet up to cuddle,

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<v Speaker 1>to which I say, no, exactly, that's this is a

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<v Speaker 1>sex meetup. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we all know what cuddling leads do, like a

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<v Speaker 7>back rub. We all know the end result kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, I don't understand, Like, if you went

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<v Speaker 1>to this and we're surprised, I think you would go, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course sex is gonna happen. Or I went diving

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<v Speaker 1>into it to see what people's interpretation or experiences were

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and they said a lot of them were

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<v Speaker 1>like I really went to find a cuddling buddy and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't find one. Now, I'm a believer that people have

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<v Speaker 1>touched deprivation, right like you crave to be touched and

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<v Speaker 1>cuddled and things like things like that. I can understand

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<v Speaker 1>the desire and need for that. This does not feel

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<v Speaker 1>like an okay way to do it. No, no, do

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<v Speaker 1>it the old fashioned way. Go you know, find you

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<v Speaker 1>some slug at a bar somewhere and go cuddle up

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<v Speaker 1>with that or the library. Yeah sure, yeah, sure, there's

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<v Speaker 1>slugs at the library too. I'm sure there are. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just not looking in the right section. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>looking in the Home Improvements Act. Go start looking in

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<v Speaker 1>the cooking section or the romance section. Yeah too.

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<v Speaker 8>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were people talking about how they went, and

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<v Speaker 1>one had a rule that if they got excited, the cuddling.

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<v Speaker 1>Said ended, that's not a bad rule to have if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in one h percent intention is to only cuddle.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh sure, So how I get I guess Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, how could you tell if it's

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<v Speaker 1>reached that point?

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<v Speaker 7>And I guess it depends, right, It's a feeling you

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<v Speaker 7>get right, literally, if you're a guy and you, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>want to be the little spoon for this time, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the woman may never tell if I put my hand

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<v Speaker 7>on your back and then change it to the middle finger.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you would know that my hand changed.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, you're probably right. But again, it's a big spoon,

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<v Speaker 7>little spoon theory. Man, if you're the big spoon, you're

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<v Speaker 7>definitely going to give yourself away.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're the little spoon, you could probably

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<v Speaker 1>get away with. It's cuddling always spooning. No, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think so, Okay, what are some other forms of cuddling?

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<v Speaker 1>Just one arm around the other? Hey, pal, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, in a simplistic form, I don't do

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<v Speaker 1>the hay pal with my wife, but her legs over mine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my head laying in her lap, vice versa. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>then you definitely be able to tell then lean leaning

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<v Speaker 1>on each other on the couch.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, right, See, I've always just thought cuddling is, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like a spooning situation. There's an embracement there that involves

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<v Speaker 7>two hands, because two hands make a hug. All right,

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<v Speaker 7>But I guess in the lightest form of cuddling, you're

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<v Speaker 7>You're probably right, those are some ways to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think for the true, for the true cuddlers

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<v Speaker 1>out there, okay, it's going to be a spoon These

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<v Speaker 1>are cuddling positions besides spooning. Okay, Okay. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>instead of spooning, you face each other and legs cross

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<v Speaker 1>over each other. Okay, yeah, that would make sense. The

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<v Speaker 1>mirror this is just where your butts touch. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>the but okay, sure, I don't consider that cuddling because

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<v Speaker 1>you're just just butts touching. It's still touching.

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<v Speaker 7>It's contact. It is contact. It is physical contact. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>but I guess I'm just stuck on the cuddle part.

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<v Speaker 1>The pretzel. This is where one lays on their back

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<v Speaker 1>and the other person lays on top of them that

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<v Speaker 1>lays on their chest, legs intertwined, face to face cuddling. Okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 7>Looking at you that, I feel like there's still some

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<v Speaker 7>arms and yeah, I mean but I guess much like

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<v Speaker 7>butt to butt, you can do face to face with

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<v Speaker 7>just like knees touching and crossing over the lap, which

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<v Speaker 7>is what we talked about when somebody's legs are over

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<v Speaker 7>the other person.

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<v Speaker 1>Pillow replacement is what this I've never seen. Like one

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<v Speaker 1>person lays as the spoon and then the other person

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<v Speaker 1>lays on their belly and then you cuddle up on

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<v Speaker 1>over them kind of Okay, sure, h this is I

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<v Speaker 1>would call this the koala. It's where one person's the

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<v Speaker 1>spoon and the other person like is climbing on them

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know what I'm saying, O, my jungle

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<v Speaker 1>gym ah, this is uh what this is cuddling. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a great example of cuddling isn't just spooning, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>foot rubbing Okay, yeah, I never thought of it like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's that's that's cuddling. It's still intimate contact and

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<v Speaker 1>some people can still get a boner from that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>laying head and lap. There's another one. Yeah, oh this

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<v Speaker 1>is another one. Yeah. This is where uh, like, one

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<v Speaker 1>person sits up like with their back against the couch

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, legs spread apart in this, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>person sits with their back towards them, okay, using them

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<v Speaker 1>like a becks. Correct. Okay, yeah, okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another one where somebody's sitting and the other

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<v Speaker 1>person kind of get be called it the hey buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>you put your arm, but they lean up onto onto you.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, like you would in a movie theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are many ways to cuddle. I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many different ways to cuddle that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>involve spoons. Doesn't have to be spoony. Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 1>found out your part, is this cheating? As long as

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<v Speaker 1>long as it's just cuddling, right, no sex, like we

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<v Speaker 1>all know it's going to lead to. Is it is

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<v Speaker 1>cuddling cheating.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you should be cuddling your partner, but what if.

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<v Speaker 1>Your partner doesn't want to cuddle. There are some people

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships we've had the emails where they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any sexual contact for days, months, years.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's because there's a problem there. Okay, And I'm

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<v Speaker 7>with Lindsay. I think this is still a it's a

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<v Speaker 7>form of cheating. There's still in uh and and an

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<v Speaker 7>attention there. Yeah, or there's still some kind of emotionally intimacy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>that is there, But I don't disagree, by the way.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and I don't think that if you, I feel

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<v Speaker 10>like you wouldn't have even chosen that partner if they

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<v Speaker 10>weren't into cuddling.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well we started off strong cuddling and then we

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<v Speaker 7>got married and the cuddling stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't you think people get with someone because they're

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<v Speaker 1>a good cuddler.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I'm just saying that if you weren't a cuddler,

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<v Speaker 10>that would be like a deal breaker, Like everything's great

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<v Speaker 10>about them, but they're not. They don't like that type

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<v Speaker 10>of intimacy, and I think that that is that is

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<v Speaker 10>a deal breaker for some I don't think that they

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<v Speaker 10>would ever work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, except there's a classic tale of men and

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<v Speaker 1>women where men get with a woman and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome, she does this, and then they get married, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it never happens again. So except for your birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just using that. Yeah maybe, And it's only

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<v Speaker 1>like anybody can fake it. Yeah, So just because they

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<v Speaker 1>cuddle in the beginning doesn't mean they're That's what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and that is true to where your hormones changed. Tun.

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<v Speaker 10>It's like I used to be a cuddler and then

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<v Speaker 10>I get too hot. We can cuddle for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 9>Get away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stay away. I have a whole fire and hot thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're gassy, I don't need you. We don't

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<v Speaker 7>I'm with you on a temperature thing, but everybody's everybody

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<v Speaker 7>vibrate my belly, then I'm fine with that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Because it doesn't stink even then.

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<v Speaker 7>That movie with Jason Bateman and Ryan Reynolds where they

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<v Speaker 1>What what does that mean? No, it's so gross. Change

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<v Speaker 1>up that chang. Yeah, I forgot the name. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good one where they got a urinate in the fastest

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<v Speaker 1>good old body swap movie. Oh, good old body swap movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, it's one.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's it's I think it belongs on the list

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've done this list before. We have

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a fantastic genre that you didn't realize was

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten. Two weeks of their role what

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<v Speaker 1>a parent trap? Come on? Seven teen again. Uh, Zach Efron,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure I have Chris Rock, Regina King, Wish upon

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<v Speaker 7>a Star, The Change.

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<v Speaker 3>It's me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't know if I should ever applaud

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<v Speaker 1>you with your ability to remember those things or be

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<v Speaker 1>they go together. But okay, it's a boy girls thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that movie. The Christmas Swap, sure, big,

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<v Speaker 1>all of me being John Malkovich vice versa man, judge,

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Yeah, yeah, father like Son, the More. Kirk Cameron, Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fantastic movie. Oh if I were you. Many

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<v Speaker 1>Dream a little dream.

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<v Speaker 1>the Cory's. They couldn't do anything by themselves, which leads

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<v Speaker 1>me to believe, you know, you know, they did more

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<v Speaker 1>than just movies together. I mean they grew up together.

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<v Speaker 1>They're close. Prelude to a kiss with Meg Ryan and

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<v Speaker 1>Alec Baldwin. What's the one with Nicholas Cage? I know,

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<v Speaker 1>with Nicholas Cage where it's Christmas?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, was it? Family guy?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the family man, family man. That's not a body swap,

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Because it's still him? Yeah, it's still a

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<v Speaker 1>Body swap with Nicholas Cage would have been uh, face

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<v Speaker 1>off John Travolta. Yeah, oh that, but that's not I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's body swap. They literally swamp bodies, but

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<v Speaker 1>they cut faces. No, it's not. It's not magical like

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<v Speaker 1>the change up. Yeah, you don't have to pee in

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<v Speaker 1>a fountain for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>But something did happen where they ended up swapping each

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say, did they swamp oh man?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, because it was supposed to be John Travolta going undercover,

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<v Speaker 10>but then.

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<v Speaker 8>What was it?

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<v Speaker 10>Nicholas Cage's body wakes up and then kills all the

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<v Speaker 1>This has it licensed as a science fiction action thriller

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<v Speaker 1>FBI Agent saw Sean Archer. She vibes into acidination attempt

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<v Speaker 1>by Castor Troy, a terrorists for hire, but the bullets

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<v Speaker 1>Just get to it. I don't got to hear all that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a blockbuster.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a big ass movie back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that nineteen ninety seven? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh the nude Jumanji the nude?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Yeah, that that one fits because Jack Black's character

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<v Speaker 7>becomes well, that's is that a body swapper? That's personality

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<v Speaker 7>swap because Jack Black is the same I guess it's

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<v Speaker 7>all the same body swap.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't that like in Shrek when Donkey becomes pussing

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<v Speaker 1>Boot like they switch like no, I don't think that counts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yah're probably right plus not's just not give Jamanch any

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<v Speaker 5>A right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Uh where we go to cuddling movies, body swap,

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<v Speaker 1>Body change up? Okay, I was trying to figure how

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<v Speaker 1>we got cuddling to body swap movies. Fountain ping in

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<v Speaker 10>Man rescued after getting stuck inside portable toilet tank. This

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<v Speaker 10>happened in Kansas City, where firefighters responded to an unusual

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<v Speaker 10>rest you after a man climbed inside a porta potty

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<v Speaker 10>Cup watch party, and a driver for Patriot Portable Restrooms

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<v Speaker 10>discovered the man when collecting the units after the event.

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<v Speaker 10>After the man refused to exit, a passing motorcycle officer

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<v Speaker 10>was flagged down and when the door was opened, no

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, would be terrifying.

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<v Speaker 10>A firefighters cut open the unit to free the man,

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<v Speaker 10>who was then hosed down by cruise. He said that

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<v Speaker 10>he climbed in to retrieve a mountain dew bottle that

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<v Speaker 10>was dropped the night before.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it have his drugs in it?

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<v Speaker 9>That it had?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's the only explanation how unless there was money

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<v Speaker 10>inside of it?

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<v Speaker 6>Was he was?

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<v Speaker 1>He one of the you know, tiny people from the

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<v Speaker 1>learning channel, Like, how'd you get in there? I have

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<v Speaker 1>no clue. They're not big openings. No, you're probably right,

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe he's a slender guy. Maybe he's not a

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<v Speaker 1>fast You go feed first, right, Well, I would if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to dive. If you're going to dive headfirst

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<v Speaker 1>into a portagohn, you've got issues but you're not diving. No,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than like, hey, I need to climb in here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so gross.

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<v Speaker 9>The damages around eight hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I had to cut the portagean O.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you don't. You don't go in at all. No

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<v Speaker 9>one are the drugs, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Drugs, the money, the phone, whatever it is, leave it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>What was a guy's name, I didn't say his name.

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<v Speaker 1>So fast forward six months later, mister Torres, we're still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to collect payment eight hundred dollars for you getting inside,

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<v Speaker 1>reported Ponty. He just as the company goes it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't afford this. But you know what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>chasing this rabbit. You suffered enough. I want to forget this.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to forget this. I wonder how long it

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<v Speaker 1>takes to wash that off. Is like smelling the dead body.

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<v Speaker 1>But you just never forget. I know. One time I

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<v Speaker 7>As a kid, I was sixteen, and I was the

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<v Speaker 7>only one that could get under the crawl space.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh, get out of My dad was like, get there,

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<v Speaker 1>dah da da.

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<v Speaker 7>And he's at the entrance of the crawl space. It's

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<v Speaker 7>trying to, you know, guide me through it whatever, and

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<v Speaker 7>uh and I got that.

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<v Speaker 1>It got on me.

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<v Speaker 7>It got on me because you got to replace some things.

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<v Speaker 7>There's going to be leakage, right, And I had that

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<v Speaker 7>stench on me for three days. It didn't matter how

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<v Speaker 7>much how many showers I took, how much soap I used.

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<v Speaker 7>It was only yeah, so I can only imagine falling

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<v Speaker 7>into a portagoon.

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<v Speaker 1>God knows how many people have used it beforehand. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so grossy. Yeah, it's pretty nasty.

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<v Speaker 7>Wife sharpens teeth for revenge. This comes out of Russia.

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<v Speaker 7>This comes out of Russia where a woman's been arrested.

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<v Speaker 7>And see what happened was is that she had found

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<v Speaker 7>dream that she had had about the woman's husband. They

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<v Speaker 7>were on the beach having the sex. So the woman,

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<v Speaker 7>goes and she files her teeth down, has them sharpened

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so obviously she's been arrested. The medical experts say

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<v Speaker 1>that it was.

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<v Speaker 7>A quote guaranteed premeditated act of revenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Simply it was an accident. Not, of course it was not.

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<v Speaker 9>Even Loraina Bobbitt was that crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Sharpening tease a whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people do it just for the look. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I look cool or whatever. Do you understand the

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<v Speaker 1>vengeance and anger? You must have to take a file

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<v Speaker 1>to your teeth and let that vibrate through your whole body.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're just sitting there thinking this son of a

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<v Speaker 1>bitch the whole time, getting madder and madder the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>What soulos do you listen to music while you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta get in this space. I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be like something you know, have Harry styles.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah at Sharon chiropractor accused of secretly recording

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<v Speaker 1>patient examinations. I gotta tell you some of those social

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<v Speaker 1>media videos where you show people doing uh chiropractor work

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<v Speaker 1>on hot girls and leggings. Not every girl wears leggings

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<v Speaker 1>to those you're telling them too. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>wear panties. Does that make a difference. I just can

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<v Speaker 1>see your pass through the leggings. Yeah, it's creepy anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania chiropractor is accused of secular recording patient examinations former

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<v Speaker 1>office snashers, as staffers say Jason Miscuzzie Colin recorded exams

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<v Speaker 1>and office conversations about patients without having received permission to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. He faces charges of intercepting communications and manufacturing

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<v Speaker 1>a device to intercept communications. So at least was just

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<v Speaker 1>recording audio not.

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<v Speaker 7>He was like, well, it's on video right, right, so

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<v Speaker 7>that makes it okay. He likes a lot of audio books,

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<v Speaker 7>so he doesn't need the visuals.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an MSR guy. Yeah, but different man. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>just love to hear people talk. No crack, not the

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<v Speaker 1>drug cracked the bonds. All right, we got to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. We got tickets to Dirty Heads in three eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to hear from you what's the best

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<v Speaker 1>and worst of the weekend BMMS and whatever that is

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<v Speaker 1>to eight two, nine, four five More of The Big

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<v Speaker 1>Man Morning Show is next. And now though we got

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<v Speaker 1>to see what Gimpie has in his for my forum.

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<v Speaker 1>Well colim and this says here that lettuce sample returned

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<v Speaker 1>false positive for the cyclospora reading. The FDA says the

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<v Speaker 1>lettuce sample from Taylor Farms that tested positive for the

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<v Speaker 1>parasite that gives explosive diarrhea, Oh, that was a false

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<v Speaker 1>positive to come.

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<v Speaker 7>But he said on Friday that it was voluntarily recalling

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<v Speaker 7>iceberg lettuce grown in Central Mako after it was linked

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<v Speaker 7>to the current outbreak of gastro intestinal issues.

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<v Speaker 1>The FDA said on Sunday that after further review, no

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<v Speaker 1>samples have positive for the parasites. More than sixteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people have fallen ill. How do they know it's that,

465
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<v Speaker 1>like it's the lettuce, or it's or it's the parasite

466
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<v Speaker 1>that's giving you the run short of them randomly testing

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<v Speaker 1>product as it comes across the line or whatever you see.

468
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<v Speaker 1>Does someone go oh, I got sick at the restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>and then they complain and they're like, oh, because like

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<v Speaker 1>one of my things that I think as kind of

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<v Speaker 1>silly as people go oh, I got food poisoning, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know that's where you got food.

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<v Speaker 7>Poisoning right right, or even if you have food poisoning

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<v Speaker 7>or whatever, because you're not going to the doctor, you

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<v Speaker 7>just got the runs and maybe nauxious.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have food poison You could also be having

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<v Speaker 1>an allergic reaction to the food ingredient right watch, you

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<v Speaker 1>could also be having a histamine reaction, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that people aren't aware of.

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<v Speaker 7>My personal opinion I think was this. They were just

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<v Speaker 7>like looking for an answer and they're like, well, the

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<v Speaker 7>letter has.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to be it. It's the Lettuce's fault. Yes, okay,

484
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<v Speaker 1>they ran with it. What else we got here? Mom

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<v Speaker 1>Domni considers arresting Netting Yahoo. New York Mayor Zoe Ron

486
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<v Speaker 1>mom Nanny says he's looking into the possibility of arresting

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netting Yao when he visits for

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<v Speaker 1>the UN General Assembly. The mayor made the comment during

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<v Speaker 1>an interview and said, I believe that Prime Minister Netting

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo belongs in the Hague. He's a war criminal who's

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<v Speaker 1>been charged by the International Criminal Court. The ICC issued

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<v Speaker 1>an arrest warrant for Netting Yaho back in twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity in Palestine.

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<v Speaker 1>In a recent interview, netting Yah who accused mom Donny

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<v Speaker 1>of supporting Hamas, which the mayor has denied. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so wait he did say it or didn't say. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on here. I think they're just

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<v Speaker 1>having a pissing man. It feels out of context. But

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<v Speaker 1>a municipal police force can't arrest ahead of state. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I was like, what does he have

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<v Speaker 1>the authority? Does he have the power to do so?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the mayor, any mayor has the authority

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<v Speaker 1>to say arrest anyone. No, I don't think he does

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00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 1>either much less ahead of state. Yeah, but hey it's splashes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she definitely gets something really mad.

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<v Speaker 7>About what else we got here. Vance gives birth to

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<v Speaker 7>the fourth child. Ouch, sure he does right, Good for him.

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<v Speaker 7>Second Lady Usha Vance gave birth to her fourth child yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>VP Dvance made the announcement on x noting that Alec

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<v Speaker 7>Neil Vance arrived healthy and that the family.

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<v Speaker 1>Is overjoyed and forty. She is the first woman since

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen seventies to give birth while her husband's sir

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<v Speaker 1>as Vice president the couple already has two boys and

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<v Speaker 1>a girl, and jd Vance has previously said that he

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<v Speaker 1>was unlikely to take parental leave following the birth because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a man, right, I got a country to halfway run. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's you know, the vice president. Vice President's purely

518
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<v Speaker 1>there in case of an emergency. He's the cigarette in

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<v Speaker 1>the glass's send. Let's say they might need me. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't take off right.

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<v Speaker 7>And then lastly, here a new photography exhibit opens in

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<v Speaker 7>Tulsa's Meadow Gold district. The Sound of Light celebrated its

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<v Speaker 7>grand opening on Friday at Public Images near Eleventh and Utica.

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<v Speaker 7>The exhibit features the work of Nashville photographer Jeff Fossano

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<v Speaker 7>and Tulsa photographer Phil Clarkin. Friday's opening celebration included like music,

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<v Speaker 7>local foods, and refreshments as visitors got to their first

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<v Speaker 7>look at the new exhibits.

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<v Speaker 10>Good Morning, Good Morning corbyin when you enter to win

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Gimpie. Well, good morning Corbin.

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<v Speaker 7>at all Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for our listeners. Are awesome. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>we chat with a listener and they share part of

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<v Speaker 1>their lives with us. And let's go ahead and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Brian. He's on the phone with us right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Brian, how are you? Man?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing pretty good. Gibby, here are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not It's Gimby Corbyn and Lindsay and we're glad

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to take some time with us. Man says,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not. Maybe you've been engaged for two years. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you meet your your lady?

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<v Speaker 6>Actually? She hit me up online on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 1>She found you.

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<v Speaker 6>She found me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, wow? And did you have to uh persuade her?

554
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<v Speaker 1>Or were you like someone likes me?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh no, sir, Actually it's kind of a messed up situation.

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<v Speaker 6>She messages me online, hit me up. She was she

557
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<v Speaker 6>was addicted to fentanyl, and uh but I knew her

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<v Speaker 6>brothers and I messaged her back and I helped her

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<v Speaker 6>get off of it. Wow she's got yeah, she's got

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<v Speaker 6>a little over two years, like almost three years clean

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<v Speaker 6>off that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Wow, that's crazy, man. And uh so what were

563
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<v Speaker 1>you advertising? Like, Hey, if you need help getting drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>call me hit me up.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, she hit me up. The first message she

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<v Speaker 6>ever sent me, she said, hey, where the fin at?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like what?

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<v Speaker 6>And uh, I knew her, I knew her brother and

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<v Speaker 6>I seen that, you know, it was a family on there,

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<v Speaker 6>and uh so I just I told her no, but

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<v Speaker 6>I might be able to get some hung out with her,

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<v Speaker 6>and uh we became good friends and I just helped

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<v Speaker 6>her get off of it. I got her into a

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<v Speaker 6>methadone clinic, and uh I actually got a little over

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<v Speaker 6>two and a half years clean off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a question, how does one get fit?

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<v Speaker 3>And all.

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<v Speaker 6>You buy it from somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how do you? But how do you? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you find those people?

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<v Speaker 6>How do you?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you?

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<v Speaker 6>How do you?

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been curious about this because I just would

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<v Speaker 1>if I needed I would go to the doctor. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't know how to get it, uh the other way?

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<v Speaker 1>So what what is? What is the secret?

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<v Speaker 6>I just grew up in a criminal lifestyle. It's all

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<v Speaker 6>he surround yourself with. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and you know a guy who knows a guy?

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<v Speaker 1>What a yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to make you uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with the conversation. It's just something we've talked about on air.

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<v Speaker 1>How that happens? So but so you says it says

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<v Speaker 1>here you spent time in prison. How long were you

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<v Speaker 1>in prison?

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<v Speaker 6>I did six and a half years.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. How old were you when you went in?

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<v Speaker 6>I was twenty one, twenty one?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do?

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<v Speaker 6>I got arrested for two arm robberies and a ACA.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you rob?

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<v Speaker 6>I was? I was following people from the casinos and

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<v Speaker 6>robbing them. Dang I robbed it? Yeah? Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 6>a dirt bag man.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you know they won? Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>At the casinos? There's this redeem ticket was you got

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<v Speaker 6>your redeem ticket machine and when people walk up there

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<v Speaker 6>and put the tickets in, you can it says it

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<v Speaker 6>in numbers on it. You know what they're giving back

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<v Speaker 6>to them. I'd find a penny machine. By one of

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<v Speaker 6>those machines, I'd put like a twenty dollars billion and

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<v Speaker 6>just bet one line at one penny, and you could

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<v Speaker 6>do that for hours. And I would just wait until

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<v Speaker 6>somebody cashed out a thousand or more and then I'd

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<v Speaker 6>follow them.

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<v Speaker 1>So you follow them to their car and what then

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<v Speaker 1>you follow them in your car? Yes, what's the furthest

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<v Speaker 1>distance you ever went?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm actually the furthest distance I ever went was it

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<v Speaker 6>didn't happen, it didn't ended up being a robbery. I

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<v Speaker 6>followed these people from uh Quah Paul, Oklahoma all the way.

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<v Speaker 6>We got to almost Springfield, and I didn't have enough

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<v Speaker 6>gas in my car and I ended up dying on

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<v Speaker 6>the side of the road. Now, yeah, yeah, to call

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<v Speaker 6>my brothering we coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, dude, how many times did you do this?

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<v Speaker 6>I got arrested for two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times did you do this allegedly?

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<v Speaker 6>Allegedly? I think five?

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<v Speaker 1>And so what you confront the people and you say,

633
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>what give me the money?

634
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 6>Something like that. I was a dirt bag about it.

635
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.639
<v Speaker 6>I remember I used to be heavy on drugs. I'm

636
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 6>not this person, no more. One of them. The first

637
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 6>robbery that Uh, went through this lady pulled on this

638
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 6>dirt road and I knew, I knew the area. I

639
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 6>lived around there. I sped past her. I got probably

640
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 6>half a mile up the road, and uh, I pretended

641
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 6>like my car was broke down, and whenever she stopped

642
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 6>to help me, I pulled my gun out and robbed her.

643
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Damn. Did you ever ever have anybody who pushed back

644
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>or they had a gun?

645
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 6>No, if they did have a gun, they didn't. They

646
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 6>didn't push back.

647
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>So how'd you get caught?

648
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 6>Me and my son's mom. We were we were on

649
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 6>our way to go to do a robbery one day.

650
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 1>And hold on say that sentence again.

651
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 6>Me and my son's mom. She did a couple of both,

652
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 6>both of the robberies I got caught with.

653
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.280
<v Speaker 1>She did them with me, okay, because I thought I

654
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>heard you say with your son. No, no, no, no,

655
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>my son's mom okay.

656
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:10.800
<v Speaker 6>And Uh, anyway, we got pulled over and uh, this

657
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 6>wasn't related to the robbery. I actually took a wrong

658
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 6>turn and there was a cop sitting there and we

659
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 6>looked at it pulled out behind me.

660
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Make sure make sure you don't swear all right, buddy?

661
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, that's okay, sorry, go ahead and say the

662
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 1>cop pulls out behind you.

663
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 6>Yep, and pulls it over. And I took off driving

664
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 6>because I had a the mask, gun, gloves and everything

665
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 6>in my glove box.

666
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 1>And so they pull you over and they go through

667
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>your car.

668
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, after I ended up getting I got I went

669
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 6>on a thirty two minute high speed chase and yeah,

670
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 6>after that we got arrested. And my son's mom, she

671
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 6>had a purse from one of these robberies. It was

672
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 6>a orange Chanel purse. And I didn't know those persons

673
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 6>had like serial numbers and stuff in them and at

674
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:19.039
<v Speaker 6>least to the robbery. They arrested us. They scared her

675
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 6>with the kid and we wasn't walked up for maybe

676
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:23.360
<v Speaker 6>two or three hours, and.

677
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>She ur stately, wow, call for a Chanel purse.

678
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:31.039
<v Speaker 6>Man.

679
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, crazy, one hundred to five hundred dollars bag.

680
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:45.039
<v Speaker 6>The paper they because we had a paper of the

681
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.719
<v Speaker 6>items and like the prices, and it was like an

682
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 6>eight eight dollars bag, but still.

683
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:51.639
<v Speaker 1>It was.

684
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, just a bag.

685
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 1>So how did how did the chase end? Did you'd

686
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 1>finally just pull over or did they uh did they

687
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>put stop sticks? How it happened.

688
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.079
<v Speaker 6>They put stop sticks out, but I didn't hit him.

689
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 6>I went through this little ravine thing. They ended up

690
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 6>pit manoeuvering me. I was in a I was in

691
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 6>a little silver Pete Cruiser that the transmission was messed

692
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 6>up and I couldn't do over seventy miles an hour.

693
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 6>Anytime I hit seventy or higher, the whole car would

694
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 6>start shaking. So I was in a low speed shoot.

695
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.599
<v Speaker 1>And so it finally is with what you you? You

696
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>just stop?

697
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 3>No?

698
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:39.719
<v Speaker 6>They pit maneuvered me, like, yeah, well I couldn't drive

699
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.599
<v Speaker 6>no more cars messing up. And I got out and

700
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna run, but they had cops everywhere, and

701
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 6>I've seen one pull his taser out. Don't take me, yep,

702
00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 6>he was one of them. Came up behind me, grabbed

703
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 6>me by my hair and like slam me so hard

704
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 6>on my face. My face hit the ground before my

705
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 6>body did.

706
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

707
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 6>And so.

708
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>They get you. How long does that whole process take

709
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>when they get you yoked up and then sit you

710
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:19.079
<v Speaker 1>in the back? Like, how long.

711
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 6>Wait after they get me off the ground and into

712
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.800
<v Speaker 6>the car. Yeah, probably did a few minutes, three to

713
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 6>five minutes, and.

714
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Then you sit in a squad car for a while.

715
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Why they clear out my car and made sure

716
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:42.800
<v Speaker 6>I guess everything, They got everything they needed.

717
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Man, that feels so intense. Man, that would have been

718
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 1>enough for me. So you go to how long are

719
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 1>you in jail for that? Six and a half years? Right?

720
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 6>Correct?

721
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And then is that what made you get want to

722
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 1>get clean and straight? Uh?

723
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 6>No, I had a I was using my first like year,

724
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 6>year and a half still in there, and I had

725
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 6>a visit from my son's mom. Actually, and my son

726
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 6>she didn't get no charges for telling me she got

727
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 6>out of everything. But I had a random visit from him.

728
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 6>It was on his birthday and I didn't know they

729
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 6>were coming, and I was high whenever they called me

730
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.519
<v Speaker 6>up to the visiting room, and like four hours it went,

731
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 6>and I just remember feeling like an inch tall. Whenever

732
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 6>I got back there, I set my cell and cried

733
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:46.559
<v Speaker 6>for a little bit, and it just had I had enough.

734
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:50.519
<v Speaker 6>I was done with it, and I ain't since this

735
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 6>September twenty eighth, I'll have nine years off of it.

736
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Good for you, man, I'm sure every day is a

737
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>new challenge with that. So good for you, It says

738
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>here to ask you about you got stabbed, you got stabbed,

739
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>or you saw someone get stabbed.

740
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 6>I saw somebody get stabbed. I didn't get stabbed.

741
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

742
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was my second day in prison. I was

743
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 6>at breakfast and all I hear is a dude's screaming

744
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 6>and I look over and he's got an orange sport

745
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 6>somebody had made into a knife, just like dangling out

746
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 6>of his cheek while the dude's beating on his head,

747
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 6>and the cops came up and started spraying him. And

748
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 6>when that mace hit him, I'd never heard an octave

749
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 6>so high come out of a man like sure.

750
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 1>And and that was your second day. Did you go

751
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 1>okay like that?

752
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Yeah, that was wild.

753
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Were you like I got this is not this is crazy?

754
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 6>At first, I was just looking at it like what

755
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 6>the hell. And my buddies at the table they were like, hey, man,

756
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 6>let's go. And we had just sat down, we haven't

757
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 6>even really started eating yet. I was like, we're gonna eat.

758
00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:58.880
<v Speaker 6>They're like, you're not gonna be able to in a

759
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 6>couple seconds later, the fumes from the mace hit me

760
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.320
<v Speaker 6>in a literally breasthtaking.

761
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just too much? Right?

762
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

763
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Wow? When you were in for six and a half years.

764
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Did you make any friendships that you needed to make?

765
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 6>H yeah, yeah?

766
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:21.800
<v Speaker 1>How do you how do you figure that out? How

767
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>do you decide who you were going to, what group

768
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you were going to be a part of.

769
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 6>In prison? Really it's all politics. And I just found

770
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 6>a group of well, I'm I found a group of

771
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:41.320
<v Speaker 6>people in the same race as me. Some of them

772
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:43.800
<v Speaker 6>I like, and I just started kicking with them.

773
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm assuming while in prison for that long

774
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 1>you had to do some things you were like, oh yeah, yeah.

775
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.320
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you've got to stand up for yourself. As

776
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 6>long as you stand up for yourself, and they're if

777
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 6>they know you'll fight, because no one's trying to really

778
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 6>go setting in the hole, right, I mean, they know

779
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.440
<v Speaker 6>you'll stand up for yourself usually pretty good. Got no

780
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 6>messed up cases like uh, sex cases or anything like that.

781
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure, I'm gonna make a guess that this doesn't have

782
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 1>a connection. But hot baby oil.

783
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there was an instance with hot baby oil and

784
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 6>I was at a poker table. This was probably the

785
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 6>worst thing I had seen in there. I was playing

786
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:34.280
<v Speaker 6>poker and there was a full table. There was eight

787
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 6>of us, and uh, the guy was sitting right next

788
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:43.480
<v Speaker 6>to me. He was an older He was an older

789
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.639
<v Speaker 6>black guy. He has real long dreads. And some dude

790
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 6>walks up with a cup of it looked like a

791
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 6>cup of coffee he just pulled out of the microwave,

792
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 6>but it wasn't his baby oil, and he threw it

793
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 6>in this guy's face, and uh, that was disgusting. The

794
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 6>literally made me physically sick whenever he hit this guy

795
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:05.599
<v Speaker 6>with this baby oil. A guy stood up and went

796
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 6>to wipe his face and like a bunch of skin

797
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.400
<v Speaker 6>and a whole handful of dreads just fell and hit

798
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 6>the ground, and the smell was disgusting. I went and

799
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 6>tuked in my cell and just shut my door and

800
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 6>pressed my bunk for the rest of the day.

801
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm bad. I'm bet dude. That's that's crazy. Man. It

802
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>says you have a kid. How old your kid?

803
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:29.840
<v Speaker 6>He's back to be fourteen?

804
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 1>WHOA? I did not expect to hear you say fourteen? Man.

805
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh that's how's that feel? Does that feel weird to

806
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>have a kid that's uh fourteen?

807
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:42.440
<v Speaker 8>Uh?

808
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I really ain't got to see him in like

809
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 6>the past year. Me and his mom. We got an

810
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 6>argument one day and she cut off all contact to him.

811
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Man, And have you have you tried to navi a

812
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>get that with like a lawyer or anything.

813
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm so broke right now. If somebody broke into

814
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 6>my house, they would leave money.

815
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wow, dude, you're only thirty two and you've had

816
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:20.159
<v Speaker 1>a life that I'm terrified of, and you still got

817
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>so much more to life to live.

818
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 6>That really wasn't a life, man, that there's no way

819
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.519
<v Speaker 6>to live. But yeah, I'm doing better now and I

820
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 6>can't wait to see what the future holds.

821
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you reflect on that a lot? Do you reflect

822
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:41.639
<v Speaker 1>on that chapter of your life? And what feeling do

823
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 1>you carry?

824
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 6>Honestly, when I think about it, man, it kind of

825
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 6>makes me a shamed, like.

826
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>A shame because of the people that you interacted with.

827
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 6>No, just the bad stuff I did, Like I was

828
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.599
<v Speaker 6>making mes when I was sixteen, and the people I

829
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 6>robed like. I tried justifying it by saying, you know,

830
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:15.280
<v Speaker 6>nobody got physically hurt. And it took me almost two

831
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 6>years of sitting in prison before it really sunk in

832
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 6>that what I did was terrible.

833
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever got to talk to the people that

834
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:26.519
<v Speaker 1>you did this to? No, I'm not allowed to do that,

835
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>not even to apologize or anything.

836
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:36.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, not even to apologize. I asked. I aintlowed

837
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:37.760
<v Speaker 6>to have no contact with them whatsoever.

838
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably a good thing, yeah for them, right,

839
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:44.280
<v Speaker 1>like they may stir something up on them.

840
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

841
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Wow, if you could say anything to them right now,

842
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:49.719
<v Speaker 1>what would you say?

843
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 6>Well, I just tell them I'm sorry you and I

844
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:58.760
<v Speaker 6>don't want to use drugs as an excuse, but I

845
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 6>just I was a different person at that time. They

846
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:03.519
<v Speaker 6>didn't deserve that.

847
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Alright on, man, well listen, but Brian, it's been really

848
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>interesting talking to you, brother. H keep fighting a good fight,

849
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 1>and uh hopefully we'll talk again soon.

850
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 6>All right, I appreciate you guys.

851
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Thanks Brian, that's our listeners are awesome. We're gonna

852
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>take a break and we'll be back. They again passed

853
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 1>for daylight savings. Time to not change anymore, right, Okay,

854
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 1>one side, it's got to go through the Senate now, right.

855
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I personally think this is silly, This is not worth

856
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:38.199
<v Speaker 1>our time.

857
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 7>Silly that they're actually debating it, or silly that we

858
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:47.960
<v Speaker 7>actually have it. The latter probably is true, but it's

859
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.039
<v Speaker 7>not a good use of current time.

860
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.400
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, We've got other issues to worry about

861
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.519
<v Speaker 1>to be debating it. I feel like there are other

862
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.440
<v Speaker 1>important issues that need to be addressed that I kind

863
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of elected you. Now. With that being said, I don't

864
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.159
<v Speaker 1>know how excited I am about the sun just now

865
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:06.039
<v Speaker 1>coming up under daylight saving with no change, I'm not

866
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:10.039
<v Speaker 1>just right right, that's a whole other thing man to

867
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 1>get you would have to get used to it.

868
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Now.

869
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 1>I know some cities do it and then we're around

870
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:18.519
<v Speaker 1>it just fine, right, But it's still a change, And

871
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.519
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just one change. I just don't find daylight

872
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>saving time, the clock change all that big of an

873
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>inconvenience for me.

874
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 10>It's really not, and you would think it would be

875
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 10>for us who get up, you know, before the sun.

876
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.719
<v Speaker 10>My problem with it is schools that start at seven

877
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 10>o'clock in the morning, and those kids that are on

878
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.719
<v Speaker 10>buses are going to be at the bus stop in

879
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:40.119
<v Speaker 10>the dark.

880
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fine. There's not a lot of rapes and

881
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 1>murders that happen at six o'clock in the morning a.

882
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 7>Bus because the sun's up, exactly. I'm just saying, we

883
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.559
<v Speaker 7>all did the same thing growing up, did we not?

884
00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 7>We all had to sit at a bus stop. Nope, nope,

885
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:06.039
<v Speaker 7>okay I did. It's not good for you, all good

886
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 7>for both of you.

887
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I had a water The bus stop line was like

888
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:13.880
<v Speaker 1>right at the edge of my property, so I didn't

889
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.039
<v Speaker 1>get to ride the bus. Yeah.

890
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 7>There's been plenty of times when I'm sitting in the

891
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 7>dark and it's fine. Didn't bother me any, made me stronger.

892
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:25.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But see, here's the thing. You also probably believe

893
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 1>that grown crawling under your house at sixteen to fix

894
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a pipe and having Dodo drop on you is fine,

895
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.400
<v Speaker 1>so everyone else should experience They should.

896
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:34.440
<v Speaker 9>Built this immune system.

897
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely did. Whether it did or didn't, it is not

898
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the argument no, no, no, no, But it's it's fine.

899
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.840
<v Speaker 7>What do we say all the time, it'll be all right, right,

900
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.400
<v Speaker 7>no matter what, your kids are going to be fine

901
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 7>at the at the bus stop.

902
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>But that you can't just then throw concern and cause

903
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.880
<v Speaker 1>out the window. Okay, with that philosophy, right, the idea

904
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that things all right isn't so you don't have cause concern.

905
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>The philosophy of is all right, so when life kicks

906
00:51:57.960 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you in the balls, you know it will be okay.

907
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:03.639
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think the philosophy behind it's all right is

908
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 7>don't get so worked up about it, because no matter what,

909
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 7>like you just said, it's going to work out.

910
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Whether you have to be standing at the.

911
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:14.679
<v Speaker 7>Bus stop for what fifteen minutes, twenty minutes for the

912
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 7>bus to get there.

913
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, the bus pulls up, you get on the bus,

914
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you're okay. It's all right. So no matter what it is,

915
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the day, it gonna be

916
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>all right.

917
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:27.760
<v Speaker 10>On the flip side, I do like the fact that

918
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.000
<v Speaker 10>it will be lighter at night because seasonal depression is

919
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:31.679
<v Speaker 10>a real thing.

920
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:34.159
<v Speaker 1>But that just chansfers to the morning. Right, there's the

921
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:36.920
<v Speaker 1>amount of darkness we will experience will be the same. Yeah,

922
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:39.079
<v Speaker 1>it's just in a different part of the day.

923
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:44.360
<v Speaker 10>Right, but it won't be in the night. I like

924
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 10>it being lighter later.

925
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I love the tradition that comes along with it getting darker.

926
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Speaker 9>Because it feels more weird.

927
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>It feels like winning, right, and for it to feel

928
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>like summer is going to be bizarre.

929
00:52:57.400 --> 00:52:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

930
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Plus, this is my biggest argument on why we shouldn't

931
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>change daylight savings time. Okay, Christmas lights, ok, you have

932
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to go out later? Yes, yes, yeah, Christmas lights are awesome,

933
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and now we gotta You won't get to experience him

934
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 1>til much later nine o'clock, as opposed to before you

935
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.199
<v Speaker 1>go got to do an event at school. You get

936
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>out of the event, it's like six o'clock Christmas. Yes,

937
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Now you come home and it's eight o'clock and Christmas

938
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 1>lights aren't on. No, because the sun's up, you don't

939
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>get to see him. You gotta eat dinner and go

940
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.199
<v Speaker 1>to bed. It feels like every other part of the day,

941
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 1>every part of the year, right, I don't know. I

942
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:46.639
<v Speaker 1>just think there's something awesome about the glow on the

943
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:50.079
<v Speaker 1>street of Christmas lights. Yeah, and don't forget Halloween too,

944
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 1>because people go all out for Halloween decorations. No, you're right,

945
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's the same thing. You know, you can't see.

946
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:57.519
<v Speaker 7>You can see you have giant twenty foot skeleton out there,

947
00:53:57.559 --> 00:53:59.679
<v Speaker 7>but they really get that with the lights and the

948
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:01.079
<v Speaker 7>falls and the this and the that.

949
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same thing. No, I think you're making a great argument.

950
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Trick or treating when the sun up has a different feel.

951
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.400
<v Speaker 9>Right, it's safer.

952
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, You can't well listen, You can't have the argument

953
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of it's dangerous for the kids at in the morning

954
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:18.039
<v Speaker 1>for the bus and then also be like, but it's

955
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>fine at night because you wanted to be dark with

956
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 1>trigger treating. Yeah, trigger treating, trick or treating is pretty safe.

957
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

958
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

959
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 1>The myth of it being really dangerous is not a

960
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:35.960
<v Speaker 1>real thing. I've never heard of children getting hurt trick

961
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>or treating or drugged or anything like that, unless you

962
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:42.159
<v Speaker 1>know the school bullies picking on you. Right, maybe a

963
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:47.559
<v Speaker 1>neighborhood kid takes you know what. No, no, no, no,

964
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen or heard. There's too many adults around

965
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.679
<v Speaker 1>right right now, you see my tea kids running and

966
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.119
<v Speaker 1>being a little crazy. But it's not mayhem house may

967
00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 1>get TP that's about it. Not when there's ton people

968
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:02.400
<v Speaker 1>on the street right after.

969
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:05.639
<v Speaker 10>It closes, after your shirt closer, after you shut your.

970
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Legs, that doesn't matter. Yeah, you booger pickers still ring

971
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the doorbell.

972
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:10.159
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

973
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>But we'll see if it happens. And again, if it happens, okay,

974
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 1>it's fine, we'll figure it out. But it's just gonna

975
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:20.559
<v Speaker 1>be weird. Why do we got to move? You can't

976
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.079
<v Speaker 1>have the argument of why messing stop messing with things?

977
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.320
<v Speaker 1>But this you're okay with messing with leave it the

978
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:29.800
<v Speaker 1>way it is, it ain't broken. Yeah, that's how to

979
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:32.559
<v Speaker 1>live my life. Focus on other problems that need to

980
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:38.199
<v Speaker 1>be addressed, like making sure Christmas lights are on. Yeah, yes,

981
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:39.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, we gotta take a break. We'll be back.

982
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:40.920
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<v Speaker 1>I agree, Jeff, Good morning, get people Well, Good morning Corbin. Hey,

989
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990
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<v Speaker 1>just keep all listening for those keywords when you hear

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<v Speaker 1>it plugging in right here at the contest at right

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<v Speaker 1>there on fre You on her radio. Jeff Finsleys joining

996
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>us from Hensley Associates. You need help with divorce or

997
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>custody or guardianship or name change or any of those

998
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>things that go along with family law, Jeff is here

999
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:34.159
<v Speaker 1>to answer those questions. We had somebody on earlier today

1000
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and they had a situation where he had a falling

1001
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>out with the mother of his child and she took

1002
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:43.599
<v Speaker 1>away the chance to see him, just vanished.

1003
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 8>What do you do in that scenario, Well, I mean,

1004
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:49.719
<v Speaker 8>first of all, just if my wife is listening, the

1005
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.400
<v Speaker 8>screens are turned away, I can't see anything. So let's

1006
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:56.199
<v Speaker 8>just make that clear. You know, it's a very common scenario.

1007
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:58.239
<v Speaker 8>I mean a lot of times people will break up

1008
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.920
<v Speaker 8>and the woman will get mad at the dad and say, well,

1009
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 8>you're not going to see your kid again. They just

1010
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:07.280
<v Speaker 8>block them out in some way. I mean step one comes,

1011
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 8>you need to call us. I mean, obviously we need

1012
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:11.599
<v Speaker 8>to make sure that you get a chance to see

1013
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 8>your kid, and we need to get something locked in

1014
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 8>because since November first of twenty eleven, the law has

1015
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.280
<v Speaker 8>been in Oklahoma, so you know, for the last almost

1016
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:24.559
<v Speaker 8>fifteen years, guys, the law has been that dads who

1017
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.079
<v Speaker 8>have children out of wedlock have zero rights to their children.

1018
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:30.000
<v Speaker 8>So what does that mean. That means in those scenarios,

1019
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:33.039
<v Speaker 8>moms can play games. Mom can cut you off, even

1020
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:35.719
<v Speaker 8>though even if you're paying child support, even if you're

1021
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:38.280
<v Speaker 8>giving her money for stuff, even if you've done, you know,

1022
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:40.280
<v Speaker 8>all these things in the past, she can do that

1023
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:43.360
<v Speaker 8>because there's no order that says you get visitation and

1024
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 8>that you have custody in some form. So step one

1025
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 8>is always to call us and tell us what's going

1026
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:50.800
<v Speaker 8>on so we can come up with a plan to

1027
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:52.920
<v Speaker 8>help you and be able to get you your kid back,

1028
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 8>because the last thing you want is them traveling, especially

1029
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.440
<v Speaker 8>across state lines, because if they're the problem runs that

1030
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 8>if someone moves out of state, all right, if they're

1031
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 8>more if they're there more than six months, that new

1032
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 8>state now has jurisdiction. So if you're if you wait

1033
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.800
<v Speaker 8>more than six months after she's moved, that new state

1034
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:12.199
<v Speaker 8>has jurisdiction, which means you're gonna have to hire somebody

1035
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:15.639
<v Speaker 8>in that state wherever it is. So let's say it's Alaska.

1036
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:18.440
<v Speaker 8>That means you're gonna have to go to Alaska to

1037
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.519
<v Speaker 8>deal with any and all visitation and custody issues. So

1038
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:23.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, that's why we want to lock it in.

1039
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:25.800
<v Speaker 8>As soon as something that happens, give us a call

1040
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.360
<v Speaker 8>so we can get something filed locks them in and

1041
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.960
<v Speaker 8>we can make sure that the child is taking care

1042
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:32.280
<v Speaker 8>of in you or taking care of I.

1043
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Forget the Latin word that goes along with it. But

1044
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>do you have to prove the why now situation? Why

1045
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:39.920
<v Speaker 1>are you changing things now with the cord? Do you

1046
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:41.760
<v Speaker 1>have to uh, what's changed?

1047
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 6>No?

1048
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:44.599
<v Speaker 8>I mean if there's no existing order. No, you don't

1049
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.320
<v Speaker 8>have to prove anything in regards to what now. Because

1050
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:50.480
<v Speaker 8>once you file and we have you adjudicator or legally

1051
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.920
<v Speaker 8>found to be dad, then you have the same rights

1052
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.199
<v Speaker 8>as any other father has a kid during marriage. So

1053
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:58.079
<v Speaker 8>what that means is is that you're entitled to some

1054
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.599
<v Speaker 8>sort of custody, You're entitled to some sort of visitation.

1055
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:02.719
<v Speaker 8>So you know, again, we want to lock that in

1056
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<v Speaker 8>because what's going to happen a lot of times we

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<v Speaker 8>see is that, you know, they either move away or

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<v Speaker 8>they block visitation indefinitely and you don't get to your kid.

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<v Speaker 8>Next thing you know, you're it's eighteen years later and

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<v Speaker 8>they're graduated and you don't know who they are and

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<v Speaker 8>they don't know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Hensley from Hensley and Associates is with us. You

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00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:22.679
<v Speaker 1>got a question about family law, he can answer it

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00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 1>a couple of ways to get your question to us

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00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>eight three three four six ozho kmod. You can email

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<v Speaker 1>show at kmode dot com or text bmms and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>your question is to eight two nine four five. My

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<v Speaker 1>ex and I broke up six months ago and things

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<v Speaker 1>were fine with our daughter. But now he's saying he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to take her every week and two nights a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm losing time with her. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's fair or what I'm even entitled to.

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<v Speaker 8>So first of all, you need to get an order

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<v Speaker 8>in place, and that's one thing I want to stress

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<v Speaker 8>over and over and over, and Corwyn, you've talked about

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00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.760
<v Speaker 8>this all the time. Is that it's great until it's not.

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<v Speaker 8>So you've got in this case, it sounds like it

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01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:07.360
<v Speaker 8>was great and now it's not because now somebody is

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<v Speaker 8>demanding more than what they've had and there's confusion. But

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<v Speaker 8>it sounds definitely like there's no actual order. Step one

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<v Speaker 8>is to always get an order in plans. It's signed

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<v Speaker 8>by a judge, so we know exactly what's going on

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<v Speaker 8>as far as your time is concerned. I mean that

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<v Speaker 8>has a lot of different factors wrapped up into it.

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<v Speaker 8>But whoever this is, please give our office a call

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<v Speaker 8>we'd love to walk through it with you and come

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<v Speaker 8>up with the plan so that we know exactly how

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to proceed to make sure that you're taking

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<v Speaker 8>care of and you're not losing time with your kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like that it's almost the mother that

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<v Speaker 1>is losing time.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what it sounded like to me. I wasn't quite sure,

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<v Speaker 8>but that's what it sounded like to me. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 8>in a situation where there is no order and it's

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<v Speaker 8>not a marriage, then that means mom kind of controls

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01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:54.760
<v Speaker 8>at this point until court kind of controls what happens

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<v Speaker 8>is Sara's visitation. So while someone can demand demand, demand, demand, demand,

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<v Speaker 8>she that control with this particular juncture. So you know,

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<v Speaker 8>if she feels like she's losing time because the other

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<v Speaker 8>side is demanding, she doesn't have to grant that technically

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<v Speaker 8>under the law as well, because she's got she's got

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<v Speaker 8>custody until he files something in court.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it's a scenario where he took the child

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<v Speaker 1>because he thought it was safer because of whatever her lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean that may or may not be a

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<v Speaker 8>little different. I mean, if you've got but he.

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<v Speaker 1>Would still need protective custody.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, correct, he would. He would need some sort of

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<v Speaker 8>emergency custody or something of that nature if the child

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<v Speaker 8>is in some sort of immediate irreparable harm. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 8>that's called when you're talking about the standard of immediate

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<v Speaker 8>irreparable harm, you're talking about getting an emergency custody order.

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<v Speaker 8>And that typically ties to things like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>child is being abused in some way, whether it be

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<v Speaker 8>physically or sexually or whatever it may be. Or someone's

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<v Speaker 8>driving drunk with the kids in the car, or someone

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<v Speaker 8>is using drugs around the kids. And I don't mean marijuana,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm talking about you know, other drugs, cocaine, methamphetamine, whatever

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<v Speaker 8>it may be. You know those situations where the children,

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<v Speaker 8>if they're not pulled out of that situation, they will

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<v Speaker 8>definitely be an immediate irreparable harm of some sort under

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<v Speaker 8>the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffinsley's joining us Hensley and Associates eight three three four

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<v Speaker 1>six oh kmo D. This one deals with something a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different than custody. I've got a younger sister

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<v Speaker 1>who is mentally disabled. She has to be watched constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been watched by my grandmother until my grandmother passed away,

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<v Speaker 1>and after that she became bolatile and now she has

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<v Speaker 1>to be monitored twenty four to seven because she's threatened

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<v Speaker 1>to kill people and harm herself. We have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>putting her in a home for adults with mental disabilities,

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<v Speaker 1>but she said that she doesn't want to go. Does

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<v Speaker 1>she have the same rights as regular people because of

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<v Speaker 1>her condition or what does what her legal guardian say go?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean, if there is a legal guardian place,

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<v Speaker 8>and a guardian that has been assigned as the person

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<v Speaker 8>who is to take care of them in their physical

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<v Speaker 8>you know, anything dealing with them physically or medically or financially,

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<v Speaker 8>there is an actual assigned guardian, Okay, the guardian has

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<v Speaker 8>the right to say what's going on and where they

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<v Speaker 8>go and all that kind of stuff. So the guardian

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<v Speaker 8>has the control of that. Now. Obviously, if there is

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<v Speaker 8>a guardian in place for an adult disabled individual okay,

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<v Speaker 8>which it sounds like what this is, there has been

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<v Speaker 8>some sort of ruling from the court and finding that

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<v Speaker 8>the person is unable to make their own decisions is

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<v Speaker 8>typically what that means, unless unless that adult disabled person

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<v Speaker 8>nominated them as a guardian. I mean, that's why these

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<v Speaker 8>That's why every case is different. That's why we need

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<v Speaker 8>you to call her office so we can get these

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<v Speaker 8>fine details to kind of fine tune the plan. But

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<v Speaker 8>the basic gist of it is is that you know,

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<v Speaker 8>if someone is unable to take care of themselves and

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<v Speaker 8>there's an actual guardian in place, then the guardian's word

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<v Speaker 8>is what is being taken into account. It needs to

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<v Speaker 8>be followed. I don't know the extent of this individual's

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<v Speaker 8>mental state or what their disability is or something like that.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's why we need those facts, and you want

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<v Speaker 8>to call us who can answer this question?

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<v Speaker 1>In those scenarios, does the court always need to establish

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<v Speaker 1>in some capacity the person's mental state or do they

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<v Speaker 1>just take it for like.

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<v Speaker 8>Eyes on, Well you have no, it's not just eyes on.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean you have to have a doctor testify or

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<v Speaker 8>an affidavit or something that this person is not able

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<v Speaker 8>to make their own decisions, that they are, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>in such a state that they can't make their own

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<v Speaker 8>financial decisions things like that. I mean, you can't just

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<v Speaker 8>walk in and say, well, I've got a sister that's

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<v Speaker 8>an adult disabled person, and I think I need to

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<v Speaker 8>be over all their finances. I mean, you have to

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<v Speaker 8>prove it to the court that they are in fact

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<v Speaker 8>what you say they are. Okay, you can't just walk

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<v Speaker 8>in and make that claim. And it's not just eyes

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<v Speaker 8>on because there are people when we all know this,

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<v Speaker 8>there are people that look very normal. I mean and

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<v Speaker 8>I don't mean normal, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just there might be a couple in this

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<v Speaker 1>room that look normal.

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<v Speaker 6>That.

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<v Speaker 8>Look like they don't have any disabilities, but in fact

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<v Speaker 8>they do, right, So it's not just eyes on, is

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<v Speaker 8>what I'm getting at. Yeah, the judge doesn't. The judge

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<v Speaker 8>is not a doctor, Okay. That's why we need doctor affidavit.

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<v Speaker 8>It's in testimony and things like that, because an attorney

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<v Speaker 8>slash judge is not We're not medical doctors, okay. So

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<v Speaker 8>that's why we have to have that those things from

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<v Speaker 8>the medical providers to show that the individual has those issues.

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<v Speaker 1>As Jeff just pointed out, these things can get kind

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<v Speaker 1>of complicated. That's why we have him on the air

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<v Speaker 1>each week to talk about the scenarios of family law

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<v Speaker 1>and how to navigate them. If you have help, need

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<v Speaker 1>help with something eight three three four six, oh kmod,

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<v Speaker 1>you can text BMMS and whatever the question is. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>two nine four five, and it looks like Mark is

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<v Speaker 1>on hold. Mark, what's your question for Jeff Hensley of

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<v Speaker 1>Hensley and Associates. O, It was kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Of pertaining to what are you talking about earlier with

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<v Speaker 5>them saying you know out of wedlock, you know, having

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<v Speaker 5>a child out of wedlock.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, I've looked at up a number of times, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>online also as well as going down to the postal

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<v Speaker 5>library and doings like that, and it says, I what

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<v Speaker 5>I found is a Senate that passed.

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<v Speaker 6>That past it.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to you know, you don't have to,

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<v Speaker 5>like if you get an ALP signed that the data

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<v Speaker 5>birth and everything on the borough certificate that you're right.

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<v Speaker 8>But no, that's absolutely one thousand percent wrong. That's not

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<v Speaker 8>just one hundred percent run. That's one thousand percent wrong.

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<v Speaker 8>In the state of Oklahoma, in the state listen listen.

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<v Speaker 8>In the state of Oklahoma sins November first of twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 8>the law has been even if you have signed these

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<v Speaker 8>birth certificate, even if you have an aop on record,

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<v Speaker 8>that only gives you a presumption that you were dad

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<v Speaker 8>in this state. That's been the law for the last

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<v Speaker 8>fifteen years. And so it wasn't like that before, and

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<v Speaker 8>it's not like that in other states. But in the

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<v Speaker 8>state of Oklahoma, the law has been okay that you

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<v Speaker 8>only have a presumption of paternity and that's why you

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<v Speaker 8>have to file paternity action so that you are officially

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<v Speaker 8>adjudicated by a judge or legally found to be dad

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<v Speaker 8>by a judge, so that you have the same rights.

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<v Speaker 8>So whatever you've been researching, I applaud you for, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>looking out and going out and find it, trying to

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<v Speaker 8>find it. But I can tell you, having done this

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<v Speaker 8>twenty year, that's absolutely incorrect.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I'll pill you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just curious, right on, brother, Thanks so much. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good example of you can make that mistake easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Reading it that way. It does look like but the

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<v Speaker 1>presumption part is super important because there's difference between presuming

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<v Speaker 1>you're the father and what that means to actually get

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<v Speaker 1>rights right.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know the thing is is it's Title ten,

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<v Speaker 8>sub section seventy seven hundred. Few were to go to

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<v Speaker 8>the very last statute, and I paraphrase, I've said this before,

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<v Speaker 8>I paraphrase, but it says mom's got soul custody until

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<v Speaker 8>dad gets off his butt and files something in court.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what it says in paraphrase. So that's the way

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<v Speaker 8>the law has been. You know, I've always wondered why

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<v Speaker 8>no one has challenged it with the Supreme Court over

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<v Speaker 8>the last fifteen years. But it hasn't been challenged. And

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<v Speaker 8>that's the law that we've been living in. And that's

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<v Speaker 8>the hell that fathers that have kids out of wedlock

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<v Speaker 8>that have been living in. So if you've got that issue,

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<v Speaker 8>call us. We would love to represent you and help

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<v Speaker 8>you get your kid taken care of.

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<v Speaker 1>How would one challenge that? What needs to be in

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<v Speaker 1>place for you to challenge it?

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<v Speaker 8>You would have to have some sort of final order

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<v Speaker 8>from the court where you have challenged it along the

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<v Speaker 8>way and the court has denied your motions, and then

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<v Speaker 8>you would appeal it to the Supreme Court at that

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<v Speaker 8>point or the Court of Civil Appeals. So you know,

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<v Speaker 8>it would have to be a very specific scenario. But

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<v Speaker 8>my point in even bringing that up is is that

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<v Speaker 8>prior to that law changing in November first, twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 8>the law was fifty to fifty for moms and dads

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<v Speaker 8>for kids out of wedlock. So it was a huge

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<v Speaker 8>change that came about on November first to twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 8>So you know this is just me postulating. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 8>is just me kind of thinking about it. But you

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<v Speaker 8>know that's the unfortunate side that dads have been living

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<v Speaker 8>in because even if you're on the birth certificate, even

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<v Speaker 8>if you've signed that aop sense for acknowledgment of paternity.

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<v Speaker 8>So the two documents you would sign at the at

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<v Speaker 8>the hospital, that only gives a presumption that doesn't give

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<v Speaker 8>you any rights. That doesn't give you the right to

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<v Speaker 8>enroll them in school, That doesn't give you the right

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<v Speaker 8>to take them to school, That doesn't give you or

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01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:54.479
<v Speaker 8>enroll them in school or whatever. That doesn't give you

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<v Speaker 8>any rights in the state of Oklahoma. That gives a

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<v Speaker 8>presumption only.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight through three four. So kmod you can also text

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<v Speaker 1>BMMS and whatever your question is to eight two nine

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<v Speaker 1>four five. This is a very simple text that came in.

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<v Speaker 1>Can they garnish his check for contempt for not paying bills?

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<v Speaker 8>For not paying bills we need? Are we talking child support?

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<v Speaker 8>Not paying bills? Are we talking alimony? Are we talking

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<v Speaker 8>utility company? Went to court small claims court and got

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<v Speaker 8>a judge. So I'll break it into two ways Let's

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<v Speaker 8>say it's a small claims court by a utility company

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<v Speaker 8>for unpaid bills, okay, and they go to small claims

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<v Speaker 8>and they want a judgment against you. Can they garnish

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<v Speaker 8>it absolutely? Let's take it from a child support side.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's say you were ordered to pay something specific medical

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01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:44.560
<v Speaker 8>bill or something like that and you don't pay it

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<v Speaker 8>and they get a judgment against you. Can they garnish

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<v Speaker 8>it absolutely? So, I mean garnishment Sy's pretty easy as

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<v Speaker 8>long as they have a judgment from the court. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 8>they can. They can actually under a garnishment take up

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<v Speaker 8>to sixty five percent per paycheck and wow, until you're

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<v Speaker 8>you're caught up on whatever you owe.

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<v Speaker 1>So be aware, guys, it's important to get out in

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<v Speaker 1>front of that. Don't wait.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, don't make it for you, yeah, because we you

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<v Speaker 8>may wake up one day, because I mean, that's the

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<v Speaker 8>thing is is if you have notice on a court

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<v Speaker 8>hearing from somebody you owe money to, all right, a

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01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:19.239
<v Speaker 8>company or whatever, go don't just say well, I'm not

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01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:21.279
<v Speaker 8>going to deal with it. Don't do that because they

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01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:23.399
<v Speaker 8>will get a default judgment against you. And the next

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<v Speaker 8>step if they don't do an asset here and the

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<v Speaker 8>next step is going to get a garnishment from you.

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<v Speaker 8>And if you work and they are going to take it.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just that simple. So don't miss court. And if

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<v Speaker 8>you have small claims issues and you've got a court

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<v Speaker 8>day coming up, give us a call. We deal with

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<v Speaker 8>those two with our other office. We have people that

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<v Speaker 8>can go and help you on those small claims actions

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<v Speaker 8>as well, So please don't ignore it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Finsley from Hensley and Associates has join us eight

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<v Speaker 1>three three four six oh kmod VICKI is on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Vicky. What's your question for Jeff Finsley?

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<v Speaker 11>My question is how does someone that went to court

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<v Speaker 11>and ordered by the judge and the lawyer and he

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<v Speaker 11>gets right to see his kids every other weekend and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>And that goes on for a while, and.

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<v Speaker 11>She's cordered to do that, and every time she's been

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01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 11>done core do that. She turns around later on and

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<v Speaker 11>runs with the kids and moves and she's done that

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<v Speaker 11>three or four times and she still don't learn to

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<v Speaker 11>the kids. Okay, he doesn't have them made to hire

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<v Speaker 11>another lawyer.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So if they're if she is violating court orders,

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<v Speaker 8>there are contemptations motions to enforce. There's all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 8>We can do a motion to modify custody because obviously

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<v Speaker 8>she's violating orders willfully. She is doing her best to

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<v Speaker 8>alienate to try. I mean, you have options. Well, you

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<v Speaker 8>said he didn't have any money to hire an attorney,

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<v Speaker 8>so I mean that's it's kind of like Corbyn has

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<v Speaker 8>said numerous times on the air before. You can't afford

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<v Speaker 8>not to hire an attorney. I mean you may say

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<v Speaker 8>that you don't have the money, but at the same

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<v Speaker 8>time too, you can't afford not to because you've got

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<v Speaker 8>something going. Did he have an attorney before when she

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<v Speaker 8>was doing all this stuff?

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<v Speaker 11>H yeah, and then it was cool ordered and everything

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01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:05.279
<v Speaker 11>that she'd take care of that she's let him to

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01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:07.279
<v Speaker 11>the kids and all this and that, and she moved

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01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:09.279
<v Speaker 11>again and she didn't lead me to the kids.

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<v Speaker 8>Was anything? Was anything filed at that point?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay?

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<v Speaker 11>And they now you don't have a lawyer again, because

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<v Speaker 11>you know that was back about a year ago. And

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<v Speaker 11>she does this every time.

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<v Speaker 8>She's going to be held in contempt every single time

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<v Speaker 8>she does it.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I think what the what the caller is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get to is that she can put pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and have him make him have to get another lawyer

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01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and take up on cost to enforce the order.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, and at some point and again at some point

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<v Speaker 8>there should have been a motion. In my this is

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<v Speaker 8>just my opinion. I don't know more than what you're

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<v Speaker 8>telling me. So it's not like I got the the

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<v Speaker 8>docket she told.

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<v Speaker 11>What we're talking about. You're saying is that that this time,

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<v Speaker 11>like I tell him, you get a lawyer to go

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<v Speaker 11>to court and say if she tries to vow at

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<v Speaker 11>at this time, she would go to jail because they

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<v Speaker 11>were in it before that.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's listen, okay, just a second. Nobody in the state

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<v Speaker 8>of Oklahoma is going to go to jail because of

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<v Speaker 8>denying visitation. That's not going to happen. I've done this

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<v Speaker 8>twenty years. I will tell you there's not one judge

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<v Speaker 8>in this entire state that will throw somebody in jail

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<v Speaker 8>or a visitation issue. But they can't. Listen. They can

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<v Speaker 8>change custody to him if she keeps violating the orders.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>The judge does have that power, and I have seen

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<v Speaker 8>judges do that even if they threaten her with jail.

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<v Speaker 8>What county was this in by the way Pittsburgh County,

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<v Speaker 8>so they do things a little different down there. So

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<v Speaker 8>maybe there was a judge that threatened her with that,

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<v Speaker 8>But I would be very, very very surprised if anyone

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<v Speaker 8>actually throws her in jail for visitation issues. Never seen

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<v Speaker 8>it done in all my years, and I've practiced in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 11>So with that, will I'm to say that the lawyer

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<v Speaker 11>to tell my grandson that she was held and from him.

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<v Speaker 6>They caught her in.

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<v Speaker 11>Lion set and they had recordings and they call it

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<v Speaker 11>a line and they told her you don't be lying

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<v Speaker 11>or you can go to jail for that.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that that's called perjury. That's a different situation. That's

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<v Speaker 8>called perjury. So you know what you need to do

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<v Speaker 8>is if you would give your name and number to Gimpie,

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<v Speaker 8>I will have somebody from my office give you guys

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<v Speaker 8>a call and we'll see what we can do to

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<v Speaker 8>help out. Okay, I love that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll give you my grandson's all right, Gimpy can.

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<v Speaker 8>Get that from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Lie. I think she's also getting wrapped up, which a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people do on the TV version of contempt.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, it's not the same. I mean, not everybody goes

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<v Speaker 8>to jail for contempt. I mean, is there a provision

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<v Speaker 8>in the law about jail for contempts?

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, people will and this is what I've seen in

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<v Speaker 8>my practice. People will go to jail for unpaid child support.

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01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:45.279
<v Speaker 8>People will go to jail for unpaid alimony. People will

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01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 8>go to jail for unpaid medicals and things like that. Okay,

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01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 8>I've seen that, But I've never ever seen anybody go

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<v Speaker 8>to jail over visitation issues. Okay, for denial of visitation.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just not done. We don't throw people in jail

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01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:58.720
<v Speaker 8>for that kind of stuff. We have the ability, we

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01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.039
<v Speaker 8>have the option to do so. But I will tell

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<v Speaker 8>you an actual real life practice. I've never ever seen

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<v Speaker 8>that in any county in this state that I've practiced in.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it exist where a judge goes contempt and you

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01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:12.359
<v Speaker 1>go straight to jail? So where is there a process

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01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that has to go.

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<v Speaker 8>So, I mean, you have to have a hearing and

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<v Speaker 8>the judge has to find them in willful contempt. In

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<v Speaker 8>other words, here's an example. So let's say you owe

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<v Speaker 8>child support, and let's say that you've been trying to pay.

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<v Speaker 8>You've been trying to pay, you haven't been just doing

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<v Speaker 8>a fat guse egg right, a big zero, all right,

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<v Speaker 8>and you've been trying to pay, you filed the motion

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<v Speaker 8>to modify, You've done all the things you're supposed to

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01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:40.479
<v Speaker 8>do to try and get that taken care of, but

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01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:45.239
<v Speaker 8>you're still falling behind. Okay. That's not willful. Okay. Or

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<v Speaker 8>let's say, for example, you have been paying your child

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<v Speaker 8>support perfect all this time, and they say, you know,

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01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:53.319
<v Speaker 8>you know, you're in a car wreck and you're incapacitated

1429
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<v Speaker 8>and you can't work anymore and you're working on getting

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<v Speaker 8>Social Security disability. That's not wilful. Willful is screw you.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not going to give you a dime. Willful is

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<v Speaker 8>you can go to hell because I'm not gonna You

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01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:06.479
<v Speaker 8>don't let me see my kids, so I'm not going

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<v Speaker 8>to pay. That's wilful. If someone is found in willful content,

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<v Speaker 8>meaning they cognitively choose not to do it, and the

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<v Speaker 8>judge finds that that's what happened, they have that option

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<v Speaker 8>to go to jail under the law.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I'm a guessing person someone who tries to

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01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.640
<v Speaker 1>represent themselves in that situation, that would the lawyer is

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<v Speaker 1>going to try and not get you to be in that.

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<v Speaker 8>Spot right, right, So you want to make sure you

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01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:30.199
<v Speaker 8>give us a call if you've got to contempt issue,

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01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:32.039
<v Speaker 8>whether you've got one against you or when we need

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01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:33.960
<v Speaker 8>to file. We would love to help you with that.

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01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:36.079
<v Speaker 8>It's complicated. Give us a call.

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01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Last one. Aleah's on the line. She has a question

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01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:40.960
<v Speaker 1>for Jeff Hensley of Heinsley and Associates. Aleah, go ahead,

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01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you can do it. Yeah, go ahead and turn your

1449
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<v Speaker 1>radio down. What's your question for Jeff Hensley of Hensley Associates.

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<v Speaker 12>So, I've been fighting CPS for two years and jumping

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01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:57.039
<v Speaker 12>through all their hoops, doing everything that they asked me of, right,

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01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.479
<v Speaker 12>and they're not trying to take my right from my daughter.

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01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:02.720
<v Speaker 1>So have you been?

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<v Speaker 8>I assume you have an ISP and individual service Plan.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I've done all of it.

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01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:12.119
<v Speaker 6>You've done that, I've done.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So you've done everything in your ISP. First of all,

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<v Speaker 8>what county is this in? Pain Payne County?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>So there's a lot going on in Paine County right

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<v Speaker 8>now in regards to the judicial system over there. I

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<v Speaker 8>don't know if you've read any of the news or

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01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:34.880
<v Speaker 8>send anything like that, but there's a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 8>With that being said, it is all tied to their

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01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:44.239
<v Speaker 8>child protective services and the cases that are happening over

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<v Speaker 8>there as well. So if you'll give your name and

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01:17:47.119 --> 01:17:49.600
<v Speaker 8>number to Gimpee I and give us a call, we

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<v Speaker 8>can give you some information about the people that are

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<v Speaker 8>handling those issues that are going on over there that

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01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:57.359
<v Speaker 8>you might be a part of based upon what you're

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<v Speaker 8>telling me, I mean typically it. The idea is that

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<v Speaker 8>just so you know, when someone does an ISP and

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<v Speaker 8>ay finish it. And if everything has been done and

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01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:10.199
<v Speaker 8>you know the reason that you lost your kids has

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<v Speaker 8>been has been taken care of, then at that point

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01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:18.640
<v Speaker 8>the law has to terminate the case because you've done

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01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:22.079
<v Speaker 8>everything that the quarter has asked you to do. But again,

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<v Speaker 8>there's some issues going on over there, and I don't

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<v Speaker 8>want to talk about them on the radio per se,

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<v Speaker 8>other than to tell people to read the news. But

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<v Speaker 8>with that being said, if you'll give you nim gimpe,

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01:18:32.600 --> 01:18:34.319
<v Speaker 8>we can give you a call and give you some

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01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:36.720
<v Speaker 8>information on who to contact over there for those issues

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01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:39.039
<v Speaker 8>that they're currently challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>Those issues right hang on the line. We should point

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<v Speaker 1>that out too. We always talk about founding law on

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01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:49.560
<v Speaker 1>how you guys can help with divorces and custodies and

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01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:51.800
<v Speaker 1>guardianships and name changes and all that. But if you

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01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:58.600
<v Speaker 1>also find yourself in a situation with CHOB Protective Services whoever, you,

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01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:00.840
<v Speaker 1>guys can help navigate that too. As you communicate with

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01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:01.960
<v Speaker 1>these people often.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, absolutely, and we stay on top of you know,

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<v Speaker 8>what's involved in what's going on and things like that,

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<v Speaker 8>So always give us a call. I mean, navigating the system, Yeah,

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01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:12.640
<v Speaker 8>the system can be very complicated. It looks simple, it's not.

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01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:15.680
<v Speaker 8>There's a lot of ins and outs, and depending upon

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01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:19.039
<v Speaker 8>what county you're in, it can be even more confusing

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<v Speaker 8>and more difficult. Even though they're all supposed to be

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<v Speaker 8>the same, it doesn't work that way in actual practical

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<v Speaker 8>practice out there. So please, if you've got any issues

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01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 8>or any questions, what's whoever, call us. We're happy to

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01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:33.880
<v Speaker 8>help in any way, and if we can't help you,

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01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:36.680
<v Speaker 8>we can help direct you to somebody that can. But

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01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:39.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, if you've got something outside of family law,

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01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:42.399
<v Speaker 8>we have another office that we use with other attorneys.

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01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.359
<v Speaker 8>It's our office. We own it. We just didn't change

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01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:47.119
<v Speaker 8>the name from who had it before because they've been

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01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:49.680
<v Speaker 8>there forever, their firm had been there forever. But we

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01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 8>can help you with that. So anything outside of family law,

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01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:55.319
<v Speaker 8>we can help you with criminal law or probates, wills, trust,

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01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:58.239
<v Speaker 8>if you've got CPS issues, anything like that, we can

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01:19:58.279 --> 01:19:58.800
<v Speaker 8>help you with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's important to get help to navigate to navigate

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<v Speaker 1>these especially when you're someone like Aleah who's climbed the mountain,

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01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:08.079
<v Speaker 1>done the work and feels like she's still not getting

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01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:11.000
<v Speaker 1>anywhere with their situation. And that's why you need representation

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01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:13.720
<v Speaker 1>and the folks that Hensley Associates can help out. Night

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<v Speaker 1>three nine eight five six nine two mench kmo D

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<v Speaker 1>you get a free consultation Night three nine eight five

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<v Speaker 1>six nine two for hinsleyan Associates minch kmo D you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get that help. Talk to one of the folks at

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<v Speaker 1>Hinsley Associates over the phone, tell them a little bit

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01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:29.760
<v Speaker 1>about your case and they'll give you some guidance. And

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01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:33.319
<v Speaker 1>as Jeff mentioned, you can get help in other areas

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01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of law.

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<v Speaker 8>Tooh absolutely so with them again, anything in addition to

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<v Speaker 8>famiel off, you've got something as mundane as a dui

1528
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:41.640
<v Speaker 8>all the way up to murder and everything between. On

1529
01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.079
<v Speaker 8>the criminal side, if you've got a will or a

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01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:46.319
<v Speaker 8>trust that needs to be drafted, if you need a prenup,

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01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:48.520
<v Speaker 8>if you've got a probate issue. Someone has passed away

1532
01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:50.560
<v Speaker 8>and now their will or their trust is being probated.

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01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:53.880
<v Speaker 8>If you've got a contract issue, if you're selling a

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01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:56.439
<v Speaker 8>piece of land and you've got questions about the sale contract,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean literally anything. In addition to famiul Off, you

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<v Speaker 8>give Leah a call up at our office in.

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<v Speaker 1>Pahuska different Alya than we just had on.

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<v Speaker 8>Her name is Lee l Eah, So if you give

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01:21:07.319 --> 01:21:10.079
<v Speaker 8>Leah a call up there, she's our attorney. She does

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<v Speaker 8>a great job. Everyone loves her. They are well known

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01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:15.880
<v Speaker 8>up there in Osage County. Please don't worry about where

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<v Speaker 8>the location is. We go all over the state. That's

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01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:21.199
<v Speaker 8>just where she's physically located. We do zoom meeting with

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01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:23.039
<v Speaker 8>clients and all sorts of stuff all the time up there,

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<v Speaker 8>So please please give her a call so that she

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<v Speaker 8>can help you out.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine two for Hensley Associates. Jeff, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 8>Have a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back. If you're listening to the big Man morting,

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01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why any woman would want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, And I'm going to give you two reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Why forget the it's it's a miracle all that other stuff. Right. Yeah, One,

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01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Lego hands do you know about this? Lego hands is

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01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:04.399
<v Speaker 1>a nickname that women for something women get when they're pregnant, swollen, stiff, numb,

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01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:08.279
<v Speaker 1>tingling hands. And it happens during pregnancy. Apparently, all the

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01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>extra flu in the body produce that gets produced collects

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<v Speaker 1>in the hands and can compress nerves around the wrist,

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<v Speaker 1>causing pregnancy related carpal tunnel syndromes. And it often starts

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<v Speaker 1>occurring after twenty eight weeks and only in the mornings.

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<v Speaker 9>Interesting, never had that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're supposed to wear like wrist splints to like

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<v Speaker 1>help write. That's on top of hemorrhoids, by the way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of experience that did. Yes.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I again, why a woman would want to go through

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<v Speaker 1>this is just beyond me, because a man I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think would make it past the first day? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>hold down?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I have never heard of this lightning crotch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's electrified.

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<v Speaker 9>I've heard that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently this is a sudden, sharp, stabbing electric shock like

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<v Speaker 1>pain in the vagina cervix, rectum or lower pelvis. Yeah, no,

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01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>I do recall that. Actually you had lightning cross.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's like a sharp it's essentially like a cramp,

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<v Speaker 10>but yeah, very sharp pain.

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<v Speaker 1>That happens in the third trimester when the baby presses

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<v Speaker 1>against the cervix or nearby nerves. Why do they use

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<v Speaker 1>such a gentle word presses, yeah, mashes, stomps. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>elevator button. Right, It's a human being in there kicking ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Lasts for a few seconds and is not, by itself

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<v Speaker 1>a sign that labor has begun.

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<v Speaker 10>So when I was thirty two weeks pregnant with Marcus,

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<v Speaker 10>he was breech and I did not want to see section,

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<v Speaker 10>and that was my option at the time, and the

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<v Speaker 10>doctor said, well, if he doesn't turn, we'll most.

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<v Speaker 9>Likely have to give you a C section.

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<v Speaker 10>So I went online and I googled everything possible, like

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<v Speaker 10>how to get a baby to become unbreached. And he

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<v Speaker 10>was born in July, so it was summertime, and there

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<v Speaker 10>was a thing on there that said headstands or handstands

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<v Speaker 10>would help a baby become unbreached. Right, So I got

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<v Speaker 10>into the pool and I did seventeen of those emms and.

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<v Speaker 9>Handstands in the pool.

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<v Speaker 10>And later that night, I was laying on my side

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<v Speaker 10>on our couch in the living room and our dog

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<v Speaker 10>at the time was was cuddling with me, and he

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<v Speaker 10>was the little spoon, if you will, and I felt

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<v Speaker 10>that electric pain and the lightning bolt whatever they call it,

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<v Speaker 10>because the baby was turning and you could see it,

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<v Speaker 10>and that dog jumped off the couch and started staring

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<v Speaker 10>at my stomach and I let out this the hugest scream.

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<v Speaker 9>I was in so much pain because you could see

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<v Speaker 9>him turning. He was big baby. And Kevin runs out

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<v Speaker 9>of the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 10>He's like, is it time, He's got the bags ready

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<v Speaker 10>to go, And I said, no, I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 10>breach anymore. And three days later we did have a

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<v Speaker 10>doctor's appointment and sure enough he was no longer breach.

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<v Speaker 10>He for sure turned. So, if you know any pregnant

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<v Speaker 10>women whose babies are breached, headstands.

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<v Speaker 1>Work, What do you think is worse? And during I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna name some things during pregnancy. You tell me which

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<v Speaker 1>ones are like the absolute worst. So immediately we should

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<v Speaker 1>have a number one ranking. We'll see if it gets unseated. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>morning sickness or heartburn heartburn that's worse, Yes, okay heartburn

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<v Speaker 1>or sciatica.

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<v Speaker 10>Pain sciatic pain, ssiatic pain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sciatica pain or leg cramps sciatica, UH Sciatica, or

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<v Speaker 1>frequent urination sciatica sciatica, or insomnia sciatica, UH Sciatica or

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<v Speaker 1>losing your hair sciatica. These are all things that happened

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01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way sciatica. Or nose bleeds or bleeding gums.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's pretty extreme one.

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<v Speaker 9>But Siatica.

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<v Speaker 1>I did have bleeding gums, okay, sciatica or Varico's veins.

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<v Speaker 9>Sciatica.

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<v Speaker 1>I have varicos veins sciatica, or excess salivaiatica, moist Sciatica,

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<v Speaker 1>or heightened sense of smell sciatica sciatica, or food aversions

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01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Siatica sciatica, or hot flashes or constant constant sweating Siatica sciatica,

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<v Speaker 1>or lightning crotch sciatica sciatica, or heymorrhoids.

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<v Speaker 9>Mm hmmm, that's a tie.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's gonna be one winter. I'm gonna go with

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01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>sciatica sciatica or constipation.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, they're both awful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, the birth of.

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<v Speaker 1>Child's a beautiful thig yes Sciantica. Anybody who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid, they should go. All right, here's the list.

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<v Speaker 1>Look good man, I gotta take a break with the

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<v Speaker 1>back
