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Speaker 5: It is hot here in Wisconsin. It is the hottest
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Speaker 5: it was up here actually. But guys, coming up, we
Speaker 5: have The Hairy Man of dairy Land. Wisconsin's Bigfoot documentary
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Speaker 6: We are going to.
Speaker 5: Introduce our guest here, so without a further ado, Hang tight,
Speaker 5: all right, guys, My guest today is Lauren Smith. She
Speaker 5: is best known as the host of the first Bigfoot podcast,
Speaker 5: The Night Callers Bigfoot Radio. With over three hundred shows,
Speaker 5: guest appearances on other podcasts, several speaking engagements at conferences,
Speaker 5: and a decade of experience interviewing researchers, cryptozoologists, and authors
Speaker 5: all over the world, Lauren has become a recognized favorite
Speaker 5: in the Bigfoot community. In addition to being the daughter
Speaker 5: of one of the pioneering female bigfoot researchers in the
Speaker 5: United States. Lauren has also done fieldwork and research in
Speaker 5: multiple states for the past twenty years since she was
Speaker 5: brought up in the research game. She is passing it
Speaker 5: about educating the next generation of little footers, starting with
Speaker 5: her own two boys that she takes out every chance
Speaker 5: she gets to explore the wilderness. Ladies and gentlemen, please
Speaker 5: welcome to the show, Lauren Smith. Lauren welcome.
Speaker 6: Thank you for being here, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 7: I have to say that intro man, you can't beat that.
Speaker 6: I made mostly through it.
Speaker 5: I always I get your show Night Callers with Nightcrawlers,
Speaker 5: and I'm really glad I didn't mess it up because
Speaker 5: my tongue does not work this time of day for
Speaker 5: some reason.
Speaker 7: So mine either about two or three is I think
Speaker 7: whenever my brain and my body kind of link up,
Speaker 7: like hey, we're doing today, and I'm like, yeah, thank
Speaker 7: you for joining the club. Actually, fun, fun fact. It
Speaker 7: is Night Callers. As you said. However, my fans are listeners.
Speaker 7: I don't like to call them fans. My listeners are
Speaker 7: called night crawlers because everyone messes it up so badly
Speaker 7: that we decided to just go with it, just run
Speaker 7: with it.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 7: They're called Nightcrawlers and we have a graphic for them
Speaker 7: that you can buy in my merch store that it's
Speaker 7: a belly crawling Bigfoot and he's eating nightcrawlers worms. So
Speaker 7: just took it and ran with it. I mean, just
Speaker 7: accept it. At this point.
Speaker 6: That is absolutely terrible. I love it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's fantastic, but yeah, No, that intro was great.
Speaker 7: I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me
Speaker 7: on today.
Speaker 6: Awesome.
Speaker 5: Well, I am thrilled to have you here. So since
Speaker 5: we've since we've already kind of delved into this. For
Speaker 5: anybody that's not familiar with your show, tell people what
Speaker 5: it's about. And you've had over three hundred episodes. I
Speaker 5: know your mom started it originally, and you kind of
Speaker 5: taking it over and tell everybody what it's about and
Speaker 5: where they can listen and stuff.
Speaker 7: So Night Callers Bigfoot Radio we started over a decade
Speaker 7: ago and it was actually it wasn't the first bigfoot podcast,
Speaker 7: but it was one of the first bigfoot shows out there.
Speaker 7: We started on blog talk radio and we had people
Speaker 7: on just that we were friends with or people that
Speaker 7: we met, and then we started branching out more and
Speaker 7: more and just really spreading across across the country and
Speaker 7: then across the world. We've had people on from all
Speaker 7: over the world. And it was a call in show too,
Speaker 7: so we would have people call in and share their
Speaker 7: experiences that kind of thing, and then it just morphed
Speaker 7: into we started a series. It was supposed to be
Speaker 7: a limited series called The North American Bigfoot Researcher, and
Speaker 7: a decade later, I'm still doing that, so I still
Speaker 7: have just research. Now it's international, but I just I
Speaker 7: gets sorry, that was weird. There's other shows out Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: there's other show out there that do witness interviews, and
Speaker 7: to me, nobody really focuses solely on the researcher. So
Speaker 7: that's kind of my bread and butter. And then also
Speaker 7: to me, our researchers are witnesses and experiencers also, so
Speaker 7: you have that. So we have We were on blog
Speaker 7: talk radio, and then in twenty twenty, I took over
Speaker 7: the show for my mom she retired, and I took
Speaker 7: it to YouTube and the podcast platforms, and so you
Speaker 7: have over three hundred shows to go binge and catch
Speaker 7: up on, and I'm bringing you a new episode every
Speaker 7: other Wednesday. I yeah, I'm just it's I was on
Speaker 7: hiatus for the last year and so now I'm back
Speaker 7: bringing all the things very cool.
Speaker 5: I usually like to save questions to the second half,
Speaker 5: but I think this one pertains to your show, so
Speaker 5: we're gonna jump on this one here, Dookie Pickles, love
Speaker 5: that due. Do you remember a story of a woman
Speaker 5: who had a dad that used to go to a
Speaker 5: tree and speak to Bigfoot. Her father died and she
Speaker 5: went back to the tree with a tape recorder of
Speaker 5: her dad's voice and she would get responses near the tree.
Speaker 5: I heard it back in the day, and nothing, says.
Speaker 1: I.
Speaker 7: It sounds vaguely familiar, but I can't place the exact story.
Speaker 7: I'm like a walking rolodex of you know, Bigfoot experiences
Speaker 7: and stories and encounters, and so it resonates that it's
Speaker 7: tickling something in here, but I can't remember the exact story.
Speaker 7: But I will definitely ask Laurie also because she there's
Speaker 7: a chance she might remember it, mister Pickles, So, mister
Speaker 7: or missus Pickles, I'm not sure, So if you'll just
Speaker 7: drop a comment on this episode, I can respond to
Speaker 7: that after I ask her.
Speaker 6: Are you good.
Speaker 5: And for those in the comments section, I have noticed
Speaker 5: that live comments do not show up on the show afterwards,
Speaker 5: so you're you're gonna have to go back and leave
Speaker 5: the comment after.
Speaker 6: The show ends, just for yeah, absolutely for that. Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 6: I have not heard that story either, so it's interesting.
Speaker 7: Really sounds really the first part sounds really familiar. The
Speaker 7: second part I don't remember that part of it, but
Speaker 7: the first part the tree and the bigfoot and just
Speaker 7: that being the meeting place and that that resonates like
Speaker 7: there's something in there.
Speaker 6: So yeah, awesome.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well moving on then, guys that we are live,
Speaker 5: as you've probably realized. If you do have questions for Lauren,
Speaker 5: throw them in the comments and we'll get to them
Speaker 5: as soon as possible. But you are going on now
Speaker 5: with your third generation of big footing in your family,
Speaker 5: and this is really cool because there are there are
Speaker 5: a couple of second generations, you know, but you got three,
Speaker 5: so this is really cool. So you you were really
Speaker 5: young growing up in bigfooting and now you have the
Speaker 5: opportunity to bring up your children as well.
Speaker 6: How is how is that like for you with with
Speaker 6: the whole generational aspect of this.
Speaker 7: It's it's really interesting when I started out in this.
Speaker 7: I started out in this because my mom got into this,
Speaker 7: right and so, like I say, normal kids go to Disneyland,
Speaker 7: they go to summer camps, all of that. I spent
Speaker 7: my summers in the woods looking for bigfoot evidence. With
Speaker 7: my mom. I learned how to cast tracks, how to
Speaker 7: look for various types of scat. I learned tree structures
Speaker 7: and audio. I actually learned about Excel spreadsheets through compiling
Speaker 7: data on lunar phases and citing reports and where those coincided.
Speaker 7: So that that was my One of my lessons growing
Speaker 7: up was that. So I had a very weird upbringing.
Speaker 7: My upbringing in this was quite a bit different from
Speaker 7: my own children. So when I grew up in this,
Speaker 7: there weren't any kids. There were very rarely kids on
Speaker 7: the expeditions. Kids weren't really welcome almost on the expeditions
Speaker 7: or at conferences or anything. There wasn't anything for the kids.
Speaker 7: So it was very lonely. We would go meet all
Speaker 7: these strange people in the woods. There was nothing for
Speaker 7: me to do. So I'll be honest, I hated it.
Speaker 7: I truly hated it. And then when I became an adult.
Speaker 7: I got back into the bigfoot life as an adult
Speaker 7: because I was I was very outdoorsy. I still am,
Speaker 7: and it just kind of they meshed really well. And
Speaker 7: then when I had my own children, I started bringing
Speaker 7: them to events and started providing things for the kids
Speaker 7: at the events, and then I started seeing more of that,
Speaker 7: you know, from other people as well. And so my
Speaker 7: goal is to have children be more of a part
Speaker 7: of the community than they are, give them a safe place,
Speaker 7: but use Bigfoot kind of as a lure to get
Speaker 7: kids out into nature. And so I do a presentation
Speaker 7: that I give at conferences and get togethers that's called
Speaker 7: Littlefooters the Next Generation, where I talk about how to
Speaker 7: kind of get kids interested in it and how to
Speaker 7: use bigfoot to teach them about the outdoors, teach them
Speaker 7: about geography, teach them about the habitats the animals have
Speaker 7: and the terrain, how everything comes together to support Bigfoot,
Speaker 7: how to look for Bigfoot evidence, and basically get the
Speaker 7: kids off the screens outside and use this as bait
Speaker 7: to do that, but also keeping them safe while doing so, obviously,
Speaker 7: you know, situational awareness. We can take the kids out
Speaker 7: during the day, We're going to go on a hike.
Speaker 7: We're going to look for bigfoot evidence. Kids are kids
Speaker 7: are They notice things that we don't, unless it's laundry
Speaker 7: next to the hamper somehow they can't see that. But
Speaker 7: in the woods, they notice things that we don't because
Speaker 7: usually adults are very distracted with the stressors of life, right,
Speaker 7: so kids they may pick up on something that you don't,
Speaker 7: so safely taking them out, teaching them how to research
Speaker 7: all of that, also teaching them skepticism, healthy skepticism. So
Speaker 7: that's something that I push with my kids is to
Speaker 7: be skeptical. Don't accept anything with face value. If you know,
Speaker 7: someone sends you a picture of a bigfoot, you know,
Speaker 7: obviously ask questions, push back on that. And so they do,
Speaker 7: especially my oldest he's very skeptical and I absolutely adore
Speaker 7: that about him. But we want to make sure that
Speaker 7: we're raising them with a healthy level of skepticism. But
Speaker 7: also to be kind because when someone does come forward
Speaker 7: with an experience, that is their experience and it takes
Speaker 7: guts for them to share that with you. So raising
Speaker 7: them kind and analytical and you know, it's just I
Speaker 7: think that there needs to be more of that in
Speaker 7: the community. For sure. Obviously we're not taking them out
Speaker 7: into the woods in the middle of the night, tying
Speaker 7: a t bone around their neck and leaving them and
Speaker 7: then documenting the process. You know, we're being safe about it.
Speaker 7: So situational awareness is something that I talk about, making
Speaker 7: sure you have people that know where you are, GPS,
Speaker 7: if you have that, making sure that you're prepared to
Speaker 7: be outdoors. I cover all of that in my presentation
Speaker 7: as well.
Speaker 6: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: Have you noticed with the paranormal field and stuff, we
Speaker 5: find that kids because are more open to these things
Speaker 5: like the paranormal there that because they haven't had the
Speaker 5: biases thrust upon them yet. Have you noticed that that
Speaker 5: is kind of similar with the big footing?
Speaker 7: I think for normal kids. Probably typical kids, I'll tell
Speaker 7: you my kids, they don't really they're they're more hesitant
Speaker 7: about it because they know what's out there, if that
Speaker 7: makes sense. So they're more open to it. Like if
Speaker 7: you talk about ghosts or bigfoot, dog man whatever, they
Speaker 7: don't bad and I you know, whereas maybe normal kids
Speaker 7: might or maybe normal kids were like yeah, whatever, that's sure,
Speaker 7: you know, they're not. That doesn't mean anything to them.
Speaker 7: They don't care but my kids, they definitely they know
Speaker 7: what's out there, and so they're kind of a little
Speaker 7: bit more hesitant about like at night. You know, my son,
Speaker 7: he's God love him, He's going through puberty and so
Speaker 7: he he has this amazing elk call that he can
Speaker 7: do and so and this is a very limited time
Speaker 7: in which he can do it so perfectly because of
Speaker 7: his little voice. So he does this elk call and
Speaker 7: I tried to have him do it recently on an
Speaker 7: expedition and he was just like, no, Mama, it was
Speaker 7: gonna call him the Bigfoots and they're gonna eat us.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, okay, I mean, if that's how we
Speaker 7: feel about that, we need to have a talk. You
Speaker 7: are absolutely not obligated to make the call. But I that, yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm glad you're being safe about it. But they also,
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that them eating you is one thing
Speaker 7: that we need to be concerned with right this second. Anyway.
Speaker 7: It's just they are more open minded than than most kids.
Speaker 7: But back to kids being more observant than we are,
Speaker 7: and that's that's where it really comes into play. Kids
Speaker 7: just notice things. They're so observant, and so you know,
Speaker 7: we're walking through the woods, and you know, I might
Speaker 7: be like kind of scouting around for tracks or something,
Speaker 7: but I'm also thinking about my dentist appointment that I
Speaker 7: have coming up and paying this bill or doing this,
Speaker 7: and they're not thinking about anything like that. And so
Speaker 7: they're gonna see, you know, something peeking out from behind
Speaker 7: a tree that I never would have noticed, you know.
Speaker 7: So it's kids. You can harness their little rebrains, their minds,
Speaker 7: their open minds.
Speaker 6: Hmmm.
Speaker 5: So going back to excuse me, going back to to
Speaker 5: your upbringing and stuff. So there's there's a lot of
Speaker 5: infamous Bigfoot researchers and stuff that were around back in
Speaker 5: the day in that and I'm wondering if you got
Speaker 5: to rub shoulders with with any of the big names
Speaker 5: like the four Horsemen of Bigfoot or any of the
Speaker 5: you know, the famous bigfooters that may not be around anymore,
Speaker 5: and and what you've you've kind of learned or gathered
Speaker 5: from that that you can remember.
Speaker 7: The the more northern researchers probably not.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: Since I've been in this as an adult, I definitely
Speaker 7: with my upbringing and with the show, I've definitely been
Speaker 7: able to meet some really amazing people well known and
Speaker 7: otherwise I have I was telling a friend the other day,
Speaker 7: pretty much any state I go to, I have a
Speaker 7: friend there that I can visit that's into Bigfoot. You know,
Speaker 7: It's just it's that community. Definitely, there were, you know,
Speaker 7: people in the South that I respect that I would
Speaker 7: that I will always take what I learned from them
Speaker 7: and move forward. Good. You take what you like and
Speaker 7: leave the rest, because some of them had other not
Speaker 7: nice views about Bigfoot and so but yeah, there's I
Speaker 7: can't think of any of the more well known. I'm
Speaker 7: sure there are, but to me, they're just people. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean there was There are so many big names
Speaker 7: that I've been blessed to know and research with. And
Speaker 7: then you have the people that we've lost over the
Speaker 7: years too, and that that's that's really hard also because
Speaker 7: you know, we've interviewed them or researched with them and
Speaker 7: they're no longer part of the community. Well they'll always
Speaker 7: be part of the community, but they're no longer with us.
Speaker 7: So those are hard.
Speaker 5: Let me put it this way, who's who besides your
Speaker 5: mom and your immediate family and stuff, who's the bigfooter
Speaker 5: that you kind of learned the most from growing up,
Speaker 5: not not like necessarily nowadays and stuff, but yeah.
Speaker 7: Growing up, because I can tell you, like I have
Speaker 7: a list of people now that I've learned so much
Speaker 7: from growing up. I'd have to say Luke Gross Gross.
Speaker 7: Luke Gross is out of Texas. He actually just made
Speaker 7: a big breakthrough that I don't think he's shouting out
Speaker 7: to the world at this moment, but he's about to.
Speaker 7: But he has been in it, I think longer than
Speaker 7: my mom even, and he's he's from from the old
Speaker 7: school Bigfoot generation of like they started in this from
Speaker 7: the ground of him and Bob Domingez and my mom
Speaker 7: and Cindy Goodbreak, all of them, Bear Kunbo, Matt Napp
Speaker 7: like that whole group.
Speaker 6: Luke is.
Speaker 7: Luke is like family to me, so he's like, you know,
Speaker 7: an uncle to me. He's been in my life since
Speaker 7: I was little, so I've known him forever. But he
Speaker 7: just I have to say, his knowledge is so vast,
Speaker 7: and he has tried everything. I mean, if you can
Speaker 7: name a silly experiment, he has done it. So taking
Speaker 7: like CDs and hanging them so that they're shiny and
Speaker 7: so that the bigfoot touches them and leaves fingerprints, I mean,
Speaker 7: like down to that. He has tried everything, but he's
Speaker 7: been working on a special study for the last twenty
Speaker 7: years and I think he's getting ready to unveil the
Speaker 7: results of that. So that's really, really, really exciting because
Speaker 7: he's very dedicated to the topic. He always has been.
Speaker 7: He actually used to be a co host on Night
Speaker 7: Colors Bigfoot Radio for a long time. He's a really
Speaker 7: great guy. So I would say he's one of the
Speaker 7: top three people that I respect the most in the
Speaker 7: Bigfoot community that I learned from growing up as well.
Speaker 6: Awesome, very cool.
Speaker 5: So okay, So going back back to your kids now,
Speaker 5: it's like, who do you think that they're besides you obviously,
Speaker 5: who else that you go out and research with and
Speaker 5: that do you think that they're learning the most from,
Speaker 5: who has been an influence in their upbringing?
Speaker 7: You ask great questions, fantastic questions. If he's he smoke
Speaker 7: coming out of my ears, like just know it's a compliment,
Speaker 7: like this.
Speaker 5: Is bad air here, and I'm like, oh, okay, I
Speaker 5: ask different questions because I know, like you host your
Speaker 5: own show, I do my own show.
Speaker 6: We're both on everyone else's show.
Speaker 5: You're so tired of answering the same questions of what
Speaker 5: was your first experience?
Speaker 6: How'd you get into this? I don't want to tell Yeah,
Speaker 6: what do you think?
Speaker 7: I love these questions. This is jeez, fantastic, fantastic questions. Honestly,
Speaker 7: besides my mom, because I would say my mom is
Speaker 7: who they're learning the most from. Oh gosh, I'm trying
Speaker 7: to think.
Speaker 5: We talked about, like on some other shows and stuff,
Speaker 5: about how you you take your kids out and other
Speaker 5: kids and stuff, and there's certain people that pull them
Speaker 5: aside and help them learn and you know, like, well
Speaker 5: look at this, I want to teach you about that,
Speaker 5: and how the researchers are so open with you know,
Speaker 5: helping the next generation and sharing knowledge in them.
Speaker 7: And there are it seems like every time I take
Speaker 7: them out, generally the people that I go out with,
Speaker 7: you know, because I was worried there for a long
Speaker 7: time that if I took them out, they would be
Speaker 7: seen as a burden, like, oh, she brought her kids
Speaker 7: out here, or you know, because when I was growing up,
Speaker 7: that's kind of the vibe I got. But no, that
Speaker 7: has not been the case. Everywhere that I've taken them,
Speaker 7: they've been welcome. And so I know that the Mid
Speaker 7: America Bigfoot Research Group, the guys in that group have
Speaker 7: all been very great to my kids. DW. Randy Edwards
Speaker 7: may he rest in peace. He was one that would
Speaker 7: definitely pull the kids aside. He gave us his magnum
Speaker 7: sling boat and taught them how to use it. I mean,
Speaker 7: there's there's just so many. Dennis Henderson, He's one of
Speaker 7: my dearest friends, and he he definitely is one that
Speaker 7: tries to teach them things when we go out, you know,
Speaker 7: teach them how to look for things, teach them how
Speaker 7: to be observant. I mean, there's just not I am
Speaker 7: very blessed in that the Bigfoot Research community is an
Speaker 7: extension of family for me, and so when we go somewhere,
Speaker 7: they just basically have aunts and uncles that just pitch it.
Speaker 7: They're like, here's how here's how to safely use a hatchet,
Speaker 7: here's how to build a fire differently and do this. So,
Speaker 7: you know, I wanted to put the kids in Boy Scouts,
Speaker 7: but it's like this is Boy Scouts for them, except
Speaker 7: it's more tailored to what we do in our lives.
Speaker 7: So it's fantastic.
Speaker 6: Bouts pretty much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, there's just every I could list thirty people
Speaker 7: and still keep going on. The people that have taught
Speaker 7: my kids something great. I definitely try to teach them,
Speaker 7: you know, to be skeptical. I teach them to look
Speaker 7: for things, the calls if we do calls, which we
Speaker 7: don't generally do those, but stuff like that. There's just yeah,
Speaker 7: there's just so much, so many people. I'm very blessed
Speaker 7: to have a bunch of people in their lives that
Speaker 7: are going to teach them things. Tanya Night, I will
Speaker 7: say she taught them how to She probably taught them
Speaker 7: one of the most valuable skills. I mean, not cutting
Speaker 7: your fingers off with a hatchet is a very valuable
Speaker 7: skill to have. However, Tanya Night, may she rest in peace.
Speaker 7: She taught my kids how to sit and listen and
Speaker 7: look and be aware of your surroundings and immerse yourself
Speaker 7: in nature. And I think that was probably the most
Speaker 7: valuable lesson that they have learned. They don't utilize it
Speaker 7: a whole lot, but they've learned.
Speaker 5: So when you talk about these expeditions and stuff, do
Speaker 5: you do you only work with other researchers? Do you
Speaker 5: have public events that anyone can come out and engage in.
Speaker 5: You know, do you do you You said you had
Speaker 5: stuff like specifically for the kids, Like is this something
Speaker 5: that you have events kid centric that you teach or
Speaker 5: what do your expeditions look like?
Speaker 7: So when I say expeditions, we have I join other
Speaker 7: people on their camp outs and it's Bigfoot centered, so
Speaker 7: we are out there for the Bigfoot reasons. On an
Speaker 7: actual expedition, sometimes the kids don't go to the to
Speaker 7: the night time, like we're gonna go off in the woods,
Speaker 7: you know, just for safety reasons. But most of them,
Speaker 7: the kids are welcome. I do have night Collers campouts
Speaker 7: that are kind of get togethers for people. They're family friendly,
Speaker 7: all kids are welcome. I used to do the Keith
Speaker 7: Crab Trees Fou Monster camp out. I used to host
Speaker 7: that that was also family friendly. That was something that
Speaker 7: I really wanted. I kind of like it. It was
Speaker 7: honoring Keith and all of the contributions that he's given
Speaker 7: to the Bigfoot community through the Boggy Creek film. But
Speaker 7: I wanted it to be family friendly and I strive
Speaker 7: to make sure that kids knew they were welcome. There
Speaker 7: were games for kids, there were costume contests for kids.
Speaker 7: There were you know, just little events for kids hikes.
Speaker 7: So I work with the Boy Scout Troop out of
Speaker 7: Texarkana and or it was the cub Scout group at
Speaker 7: the time, and and I would make sure that they
Speaker 7: had one of the researchers to take them on a
Speaker 7: hike and go do you know, a nature hike and
Speaker 7: look for bigfoot evidence. There were people that we had
Speaker 7: come show them how to cast a track. We had
Speaker 7: calling contests, you know that kind of thing. So I
Speaker 7: really tried to make it kid friendly. We haven't I
Speaker 7: haven't done anything in a little bit for a night
Speaker 7: callers camp out type of situation, but yeah, I definitely
Speaker 7: would love to do that and have it be kid friendly,
Speaker 7: like bring your kids, let them meet other kids in
Speaker 7: the community, let them know they're not alone and having
Speaker 7: very weird parents, you know.
Speaker 6: So yeah cool.
Speaker 5: If you do have anything like that, or you got
Speaker 5: stuff coming up, where can people find that?
Speaker 7: So usually I'll post that across my social media's social
Speaker 7: media's I turned into Sean Connery, So I have Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 7: I have a Facebook group for less and then I
Speaker 7: have a TikTok also that hit or Miss if I'm
Speaker 7: gonna post on that, honestly, but and then my YouTube channel,
Speaker 7: so I'll give a shout out on the show, I'll
Speaker 7: post it across the things pretty much. If you just
Speaker 7: check in every now and then on my social media,
Speaker 7: you'll see what I'm up to, what I'm doing. And yeah,
Speaker 7: you're invited. I do open invite campouts.
Speaker 5: All right, grab some questions here in the comments section,
Speaker 5: so we catch up on that, and then we're gonna
Speaker 5: transition to talking about research. So all right, welcome Lauren Smith.
Speaker 5: Did you ever get a chance to work with Kevin
Speaker 5: Lane when he was alive? His story interaction with Bigfoot
Speaker 5: glogged seemed to be closest evidence of Bigfoot.
Speaker 7: I did not get a chance to work with him.
Speaker 7: May he rest in peace? Nope? Sorry?
Speaker 6: And then I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 5: The squatching cowboy says he has a trail camera or
Speaker 5: a picture of you on his trail camera in Oklahoma.
Speaker 7: He does, he does. I went hiking with Dennis Henderson,
Speaker 7: my dear friend, and his wife, and we had hiked
Speaker 7: in southeast Oklahoma to a little there's a structure out
Speaker 7: in the middle of nowhere, and we'd hiked down there
Speaker 7: and taken pictures, and on our way back, my friend's wife, Cindy,
Speaker 7: she looked as she goes, oh, look, She's like, there's
Speaker 7: trail camps. And then we looked up and there's a
Speaker 7: gifting station. And I was just like, we're great bigfoot
Speaker 7: researchers because we're all so observant. We missed it completely
Speaker 7: on the way in, so on the way out we
Speaker 7: saw it. And so I walked up and kind of
Speaker 7: waved into the camera and held up my business card,
Speaker 7: my night colar's business card and tucked it behind the
Speaker 7: tree strap because if this person gets a bigfoot, call me,
Speaker 7: I want to know. So yeah, and then a few
Speaker 7: months later, Joe messaged me and he's like, hey, I
Speaker 7: have a picture of you. And I'm like what and
Speaker 7: he said, I got you on my trail cam and
Speaker 7: I'm like, of course it's Joe's trail cam. Great, So yeah,
Speaker 7: that was and then he sent me the pictures because
Speaker 7: he was, you know, kind enough to do so, but
Speaker 7: it was it was hilarious. Oh my gosh, it was hilarious.
Speaker 7: And it just makes you think how many times you
Speaker 7: don't see that trail cam when you're out there And
Speaker 7: I'm sorry to anybody that's caught me on that trail
Speaker 7: cam doing things. I I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 5: That's that's a really good piece of advice right there,
Speaker 5: Just you know, get your picture on it and with
Speaker 5: your business card.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that's great. I've never thought of that.
Speaker 5: We've run into trail cameras, you know, out in the woods,
Speaker 5: hunters and stuff that leave them out there, and I've
Speaker 5: never thought to tuck a business card in there and.
Speaker 7: Go call me, you know, And yeah, pretty, I mean
Speaker 7: think about it. If they get bigfoot, they're gonna need
Speaker 7: somebody to contact about that.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 7: It was pretty amusing. I was cackling the entire time
Speaker 7: I stuck my card back there.
Speaker 6: So yeah, yes, yeah, uh, Lauren.
Speaker 5: Do you ever do collab or how often do you
Speaker 5: work with Brian Duke Sullivan of World Bigfoot Center. He
Speaker 5: is considered one of the most respected bigfoot researchers in
Speaker 5: the field.
Speaker 7: I have never worked with him, so, you know, I
Speaker 7: guess you know, if he reaches out, must collab. I'm
Speaker 7: absolutely for that, love to have him on the show
Speaker 7: or whatever, But yeah, I haven't. I haven't worked with him,
Speaker 7: yet so good to know appreciated it.
Speaker 5: With all the serious aspects of sasquatch research, have you
Speaker 5: ever had a moment in the field where something totally
Speaker 5: unexpected or hilarious shifted your thinking or opened a door
Speaker 5: to a new research angle.
Speaker 7: Hilarious. I've had a lot of hilarious things happen in
Speaker 7: the field. One thousand percent. I've learned that I'm very
Speaker 7: Although I am completely fine with gigantic creatures of unknown
Speaker 7: origins bluff charging me in the woods. I mean it's scary, yes,
Speaker 7: but like I'll be like, oh my god, this is great.
Speaker 7: That's action. I'm not okay with things skittering at me
Speaker 7: like little things skittering I and also belly crawling bigfoot
Speaker 7: freak me out. So I've learned that about myself bare acts.
Speaker 7: I have had unexpected things shift my angle on open
Speaker 7: my mind to things. So I shared this recently, Actually
Speaker 7: so I was recently. So I'm really into the infrasound phenomena.
Speaker 7: I've been experiencing that for decades at this point, you know,
Speaker 7: I've been doing this for over two decades now. I've
Speaker 7: had a lot of run ins with infrasound. I have
Speaker 7: it kind of I have it pegged to where I
Speaker 7: know when it's in for sound, my spidy senses are going.
Speaker 7: I know exactly what it is. And so I had
Speaker 7: an experience. I was listening to the Y files actually,
Speaker 7: and they were talking about Kasaov's mirror, and they were
Speaker 7: talking about it. So Kasarov's mirror, it allows you to
Speaker 7: kind of time slip is what it's for you time
Speaker 7: slip and you're allowed to do this whatever. But whenever
Speaker 7: the people would enter the room, and I was listening
Speaker 7: to this randomly, I was driving to Little Rock to
Speaker 7: get my kids, and they mentioned that when people enter
Speaker 7: the room, they were overwhelmed with this feeling in their
Speaker 7: chest and this pressure on their head and they felt
Speaker 7: the need to run. Fight or flight kicked in and
Speaker 7: they needed to run and they got nauseous. And I
Speaker 7: sat there and I was like, that's that's in ProSound,
Speaker 7: like one hundred percent. That's in ProSound. And so you
Speaker 7: think about, you know, if a creature was pushing this
Speaker 7: this energy, this frequency at you and it's causing this,
Speaker 7: you know, And so I'm sitting there thinking about it,
Speaker 7: and I was like, oh my gosh. And they said,
Speaker 7: if you sit with it for a little bit. The
Speaker 7: scientist would tell the person, if you sit with this,
Speaker 7: it will go away, and it did. And when it
Speaker 7: went away, they were looking into the concave mirror and
Speaker 7: they started time slipping. And so I sat there and
Speaker 7: it was just like, I was like, what do you
Speaker 7: do when you get hit with them for sound? You
Speaker 7: usually retreat or you react, or you turn away, you
Speaker 7: push back, like, no, I don't want this, And I thought,
Speaker 7: what if I just sit with it? And so I'm
Speaker 7: waiting on the opportunity to do that. I mean, I
Speaker 7: haven't I can't just call up my buddy Bigfoot and
Speaker 7: be like, hey, can you im for sound me real quick?
Speaker 7: So I can see what happens whenever I sit with
Speaker 7: that for a minute. But I went out researching while
Speaker 7: I did a solo camp out, and I was also
Speaker 7: researching while I was out there, and I kind of
Speaker 7: opened myself to that and thought, Okay, if it happens,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna sit with it, and I'm going
Speaker 7: to just let it come and let's see where it goes.
Speaker 7: And so nothing happened that weekend, really, so you know,
Speaker 7: next time we'll definitely keep because that's the thing about
Speaker 7: bigfoot research. It's not one and done right. It's consistency.
Speaker 7: You have to keep trying, keep trying things, and then
Speaker 7: when that doesn't work, then you try the new things.
Speaker 7: So that's where I am with that. And then also, boy,
Speaker 7: I learned. I learned that you don't you don't know
Speaker 7: how crazy you feel until you do this. But I
Speaker 7: was talking to a friend of mine and I was
Speaker 7: telling him about this, this this infrasound, and also my
Speaker 7: impath abilities and how how I've never used my impath
Speaker 7: abilities offensively in the woods, like you know, actively, I've
Speaker 7: I've used them to kind of gauge if something was around,
Speaker 7: but I've never actively pushed that out there. And so
Speaker 7: he was like, have you ever tried talking to bigfoot?
Speaker 7: And I was like, well no, And he's like, well,
Speaker 7: it's like free therapy if nothing else, But like, have
Speaker 7: you ever tried just engaging them, like just talking? And
Speaker 7: I was like no, like I've never m And so
Speaker 7: while I was out there, I tried it. Honestly, you
Speaker 7: feel really stupid. It's kind of like vlogging almost, I've learned,
Speaker 7: like you feel really dumb, but then it gets easier.
Speaker 7: But you still hope nobody sees you doing it, So, yeah,
Speaker 7: vlogging and talking to Bigfoot or the exact same thing
Speaker 7: I've learned I didn't have. Obviously, they did not answer me,
Speaker 7: they did not let me know they were there. But
Speaker 7: I will tell you while in that spot, because I've
Speaker 7: had some very uncomfortable situations happen in that particular camping spot.
Speaker 7: And while in that spot the whole weekend I was
Speaker 7: alone out there with my dog. I felt absolutely safe.
Speaker 7: I felt absolutely safe and content and protected. It was
Speaker 7: really weird. I don't know. I don't know if it
Speaker 7: was because I talked to them, or maybe just the
Speaker 7: vibes I was giving off were very non threatening. I
Speaker 7: don't know, But anyway, I've had so I've had kind
Speaker 7: of a shift from where I was to where I
Speaker 7: am now about the the way my research is going
Speaker 7: and kind of all of that.
Speaker 5: So I'm cool, all right, Uh, Lauren, have you had
Speaker 5: after oh my gosh, after all the interviews you've conducted
Speaker 5: and time you spent in the field, is there a
Speaker 5: single moment, whether it was an encounter or an eyewitness
Speaker 5: testimony or a gut feeling that shifted your perspective on
Speaker 5: what sasquatch really.
Speaker 7: Is not a singular event, but definitely the interviews and
Speaker 7: I witness testimony that and just kind of the feeling
Speaker 7: that I've been getting and the vibes I'm getting right now.
Speaker 7: It's not just like the Bigfoot phenomena itself. It's not
Speaker 7: just one encounter that makes me believe there's something out there, right,
Speaker 7: It's a sum of the whole. So all these encounters,
Speaker 7: all these people having this experience. So when you get
Speaker 7: into the WU, you have all these people who are
Speaker 7: experiencing things that you already can't explain bigfoot, right, but
Speaker 7: this is like an extra layer of can't be explained
Speaker 7: when it comes to this topic.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 7: We know that they're not they're paranormal. We know that
Speaker 7: they're you know, preternatural. They're not just flesh and blood,
Speaker 7: or they have abilities that we don't know about, or
Speaker 7: access to parts of their brain that maybe we don't
Speaker 7: have access to. I'm not sure, but I do think
Speaker 7: that my research and my perception of them has definitely
Speaker 7: changed after all the interviews and eyewitness testimonies and conversations
Speaker 7: with people in which they were weird. They're like, you know,
Speaker 7: the thing just appeared, it was there. There was no noise,
Speaker 7: all of a sudden it was there, or there was
Speaker 7: a weird wavering in the air and then it was there.
Speaker 7: So it's I don't know if it's a portal. I
Speaker 7: don't know if they cloak. I don't know if they're
Speaker 7: inter dimensional. I don't know.
Speaker 6: But I do know that.
Speaker 7: A grizzly bear something of big size doesn't just appear
Speaker 7: right behind you with absolutely no noise and no feeling
Speaker 7: of it being there. I mean, it's just yeah, so yes,
Speaker 7: I have that's is the answer.
Speaker 5: Kind of goes along with that as well, Grandizer, says Lauren.
Speaker 5: Your thoughts takes on suggested different types of bigfoot sasquatch.
Speaker 5: Some say the hide behind is also a type of bigfoot.
Speaker 7: Is the hide behind?
Speaker 4: I have questions.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like a paranormal fay creature. It's like
Speaker 5: basically always behind you or behind a tree or something.
Speaker 5: It's you can see or feel something there, but you
Speaker 5: never actually really see them.
Speaker 6: They're kind of very interesting.
Speaker 7: I would be very interested to dive down that bunny
Speaker 7: trail or rabbit hole whatever that I wanted. I want
Speaker 7: to know more about that. That's very interesting. Maybe, So,
Speaker 7: I definitely have heard that there's different species of bigfoot
Speaker 7: like that. You know, there's like the ancient ones, and
Speaker 7: then the Sasquatch, and then the Yetti and then the
Speaker 7: and the ancient ones are more.
Speaker 6: Where are they?
Speaker 7: They're like extraterrestrials or dropped off here by extraterrestrials or something.
Speaker 7: I've heard all kinds of different theories. I definitely think
Speaker 7: there are different species. I am not sure about extra
Speaker 7: extraterrestrial or otherwise. Obviously, if I had evidence for that,
Speaker 7: I would, you know, probably be in a CIA holding
Speaker 7: cell somewhere. But yeah, I I definitely will look into
Speaker 7: that more so, thank you, grand I definitely appreciate you sharing.
Speaker 1: That with me.
Speaker 6: I love this question.
Speaker 5: The next one here and then the question and then
Speaker 5: the next common is Lauren. As if it wasn't obvious
Speaker 5: that this question was directed at you, but anyway, it is,
Speaker 5: and this is this is multiple choice. So which is
Speaker 5: the best documented bigfoot encounter? William Rowe encounter nineteen fifty five,
Speaker 5: Patterson Gimlin film nineteen sixty seven, Ape Canyon Incident nineteen
Speaker 5: twenty four, Albert Austman abduction nineteen twenty four or.
Speaker 6: E other there's a right answer, I don't. I don't
Speaker 6: know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Do I get to phone a friend or I feel
Speaker 7: like I'm on a game show. Documented Bigfoot encounter is
Speaker 7: the keyword there. I am going to go with B
Speaker 7: because I'm a huge fan of the Patty film to date.
Speaker 7: To me personally my personal opinions, I feel that the
Speaker 7: Patty film is the best documented piece of big evidence
Speaker 7: that we have or a bigfoit encounter. I know there
Speaker 7: are people out there who have made it their life's
Speaker 7: work to tear that apart, and that's fine, great for them,
Speaker 7: bless their hearts. I but I do feel like B.
Speaker 7: Yeah Z all of the above plus Freeman.
Speaker 6: I would have to agree. I would say B.
Speaker 5: But also Ape Canyon has quite a bit of documentation
Speaker 5: it does, and all the research they've done. I'm not
Speaker 5: familiar with their William Rowe one.
Speaker 7: I'm not either. I skip past that one because I'm
Speaker 7: going to have to write that down and look into it.
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 7: I would also add E the Hanobi Siege, the Siege
Speaker 7: of Hanoby on there because it was a lot like
Speaker 7: the Ape Canyon incident. So, but definitely B is my
Speaker 7: chosen answer.
Speaker 5: Mister Grandeiser, you have also left off Boggie Creek and
Speaker 5: Momo and some of the other recorded documentation ones and stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, interesting to look at you.
Speaker 7: That's a great question though.
Speaker 5: All right, your last questions so far in the comments here,
Speaker 5: and then we'll get back to other stuff.
Speaker 6: Can you make sessquatch bigfoot sounds?
Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like I could give it a
Speaker 7: fair shake, but I also don't know specifically what sounds
Speaker 7: they make, So I mean, I can you know they
Speaker 7: do whoops, howls, grunts, whatever. I can do a siren
Speaker 7: scream that will shut the woods up. The entire all
Speaker 7: the woods will go silent, and it is my favorite thing.
Speaker 7: I don't think it really does anything for the bigfoot
Speaker 7: research aspect, but it's really it's you feel very bigfooty
Speaker 7: when you do it. You're like, yes, I have shut
Speaker 7: you all up, and yes I do a good owl. Also,
Speaker 7: so my mom is affectionately called the like and then
Speaker 7: also the owl whisperer, and so I have learned from
Speaker 7: her how to do an excellent owl call. And so
Speaker 7: we will call them up and have them in the
Speaker 7: camp just talking to us, and it's fantastic. The Bigfoot
Speaker 7: part of that, the research part of that is that
Speaker 7: we do what we call, Oh this is not politically correct,
Speaker 7: and I want you guys to know that, I know that,
Speaker 7: but it's we call it the retarded owl call because
Speaker 7: it is an owl that is off and we find
Speaker 7: that in Bigfoot research a lot we have we'll hear
Speaker 7: a barred owl, and then we'll hear another one, and
Speaker 7: then we'll hear one that's just not right, and usually
Speaker 7: we believe that that is a sasquatch doing a known
Speaker 7: animal call, communicating with another sasquatch, And so we will
Speaker 7: do regular calls for owls and then add in one
Speaker 7: that's just kind of and then see if we can
Speaker 7: get response or activity out of it.
Speaker 6: All right there, I think.
Speaker 5: I think this is a comment, but I always remember
Speaker 5: in the late nineties, Coast to Coast am had a
Speaker 5: sasquatch scream that used to play often that a listener
Speaker 5: researcher sent in.
Speaker 6: It was just bone chilling. So I think that's just
Speaker 6: just a comment.
Speaker 7: Okay, I've heard some weird audio over the years. My
Speaker 7: mom has one. It's my favorite audio. Oh, it's it's amazing.
Speaker 7: She's actually uploading it to She has a YouTube that
Speaker 7: is called Squatchy Nights Audio and it e s and
Speaker 7: so she has twenty plus years of audio that she's
Speaker 7: collected from back when it was tape recorders to digital recorders,
Speaker 7: you know. And so she has she's learned over the years,
Speaker 7: as all researchers should. She's learned what is You have
Speaker 7: to learn what is not bigfoot in order to learn
Speaker 7: what might be bigfoot. So hoggs, foxes, bobcats, mountain lions, wolves, like,
Speaker 7: you have to know the vocals out there. And so,
Speaker 7: but she has one we call it the Siren Scream,
Speaker 7: and are surrounded I think is the name of the audio.
Speaker 7: And it's this bigfoot howl out in the out in
Speaker 7: the woods, like way far away, and it goes off
Speaker 7: and they're all listening with their audio recorders and they're like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, do you hear that? Do the you know,
Speaker 7: the typical bigfoot? Did you hear that? And then within
Speaker 7: a minute or two, all of a sudden, it goes
Speaker 7: off again with friends and they're right there, I mean,
Speaker 7: just surrounded these creatures howling and screaming and it sounds
Speaker 7: kind of like coyotes with other things too, and they're
Speaker 7: right there, and so then all you hear is just
Speaker 7: audio recorders and microphones bumping and slamming and car door slamming,
Speaker 7: and everybody's just running to their vehicles and piling in
Speaker 7: and you hear door slamming on microphones. It's but it's
Speaker 7: it's I get chills every time I hear it, because
Speaker 7: it's just phenomenal, phenomenal audio.
Speaker 5: I've heard you talk about as well, like your mom
Speaker 5: got audio right at your house, like calling your dog
Speaker 5: and other things. How old were you when this was
Speaker 5: going on? And was that creepy like to hear that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was a teenager, a young teenager at that time,
Speaker 7: and we would have we had something that she recorded
Speaker 7: because her dog Cookie, it was a little black chihuahua,
Speaker 7: and she would she's chihuahua. She thought she was eight
Speaker 7: foot tall. So she would run out the doggy door
Speaker 7: after this thing and just barking the whole time. And
Speaker 7: my mom is screaming Cookie, Cookie, Cookie, you know, trying
Speaker 7: to get her back, and you hear this thing go cooky.
Speaker 7: And we didn't care till later, obviously, when we played
Speaker 7: back to the audio. We've had uh, she's caught on audio.
Speaker 7: It was raining, and so she used to set up
Speaker 7: her audio recorder on the windowsill with the parabolic pointing out,
Speaker 7: and she would play it back the next day and
Speaker 7: listen to it. It was raining, and you hear drip,
Speaker 7: drip drip off the eaves, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: you don't hear any drips, and you hear something step
Speaker 7: up to the window, and then it walks away and
Speaker 7: you hear the drips again. Just creepy stuff we had.
Speaker 7: She's had something slap the house that she got on
Speaker 7: audio before out here, lots of just lots of weird things,
Speaker 7: and it was in different locations. So we used to
Speaker 7: live in a lakeside community beside sam Rayburn, and that's
Speaker 7: where she got like the kookie and all of that.
Speaker 7: But here is where she had something slap the house.
Speaker 7: And she's had a lot of weird things here too,
Speaker 7: things that sound. I've been hearing things here lately that
Speaker 7: are very weird, and I will drag her outside and
Speaker 7: I'm like, listen, do you hear that?
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 1: Like that?
Speaker 7: That's not a coyote, it's not a cow, it's not
Speaker 7: a wolf like it but it's very canid, and I'm
Speaker 7: just like, I don't want dog Man to be a thing.
Speaker 7: I don't want it to be a thing. I have
Speaker 7: a horrible phobia of wear wolves, which just feels weird
Speaker 7: even saying that out loud, but I do. But that's
Speaker 7: all I can think. That's all that goes through my
Speaker 7: mind is it's got to be some canid creature.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: So I'm trying to get that on audio, but it
Speaker 7: keeps happening, like when I'm walking to the chicken house
Speaker 7: or something and I'm like, oh, there it is, and
Speaker 7: i have nothing, you know, to record it. When that's
Speaker 7: the Bigfoot curse.
Speaker 6: But yeah, always have audio and video run always.
Speaker 7: That's the Bigfoot curse. If you get out of your vehicle,
Speaker 7: have your recorder going, because that's when the best audio
Speaker 7: you ever hear in your life are the best you know,
Speaker 7: call or vocal, that's when you're gonna hear it. But
Speaker 7: you're not gonna be able to share that with anybody.
Speaker 5: So case in point, for anybody that's familiar with some
Speaker 5: of our work, we were going to do a haunted
Speaker 5: coal mine down in Kentucky and we pulled up parked
Speaker 5: and we have a dash cam running, and I had
Speaker 5: a GoPro running on the dashboard as well, because we
Speaker 5: were filming just b roll of the area. And we parked,
Speaker 5: me and my mom, I got out to switch the
Speaker 5: cameras to carry them and shoot the other stuff in
Speaker 5: that and in the time that the dash cam and
Speaker 5: the GoPro turned off to the time that I walked
Speaker 5: to the back of the vehicle, my mom watched a
Speaker 5: huge black bigfoot walk across the road.
Speaker 7: Of course, of course, and they.
Speaker 6: Know, yep, it had to have been there when we
Speaker 6: pulled in.
Speaker 5: But I've scoured through the dash cam, I've scoured through
Speaker 5: the go pros. There's a fence there too, so there's
Speaker 5: a fence and then woods behind it, and it's got
Speaker 5: to be just on the edge of that fence line.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: We found a footprint in the ditch. Everything it happened,
Speaker 5: but no footage of it, no proof.
Speaker 7: You know what happens. I mean, I would take that
Speaker 7: at this point, Like for me, is capturing evidence important
Speaker 7: to me? Yes, But first and foremost for me, it's
Speaker 7: the experience. I know people hate hearing that on shows.
Speaker 7: I hate that for you, but for me, it's the
Speaker 7: experience because I want to know. I want to know
Speaker 7: what it is. I want to know what it does.
Speaker 7: I want to know, And then if I happen to
Speaker 7: capture evidence during that time, I will absolutely share it.
Speaker 6: With you guys.
Speaker 7: But first and foremost, I want to know. I'm a
Speaker 7: curious kid. I want to know.
Speaker 5: We are coming up on the end of the show here,
Speaker 5: So guys, if you have any last minute questions, throw
Speaker 5: them in there. We'll try and get to them before
Speaker 5: we wrap up here. But my last question is, so
Speaker 5: what do you think that you've learned about these things?
Speaker 5: Like you said, you've researched all around the inte axis
Speaker 5: and Oklahoma and areas and stuff.
Speaker 6: Is there anything that you think that.
Speaker 5: You know fairly certain behavior patterns, or anything that maybe
Speaker 5: differ between locations or states, or that you've found very
Speaker 5: similar that you can kind of put a thumb tack in,
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 7: Something that I can count on. Basically used to when
Speaker 7: I first started as an adult researching on my own,
Speaker 7: I would go on these night expeditions and go out
Speaker 7: searching for these creatures. I would do blackout hikes and
Speaker 7: you know, just go out doing tree knocks or calls
Speaker 7: or what have you. Excuse me, and wasn't real successful.
Speaker 7: We had thermals and we've gotten a few questionable things
Speaker 7: on thermals. We might have gotten some cool audio. But
Speaker 7: I have learned over the years to go to a location,
Speaker 7: go out and hike during the day. See what's around there,
Speaker 7: See how the terrain is, see what you know, what
Speaker 7: the habitat that supports the creature, if it is supportive
Speaker 7: of a creature like that, check for evidence, you know,
Speaker 7: maybe tree structures or prints, tracks, stuff like that. And
Speaker 7: then go back to camp and at night you sit
Speaker 7: in front of a fire and you wait for them
Speaker 7: to come to you, because they're going to come to you.
Speaker 7: They depending on where you are. Now, if you're in
Speaker 7: a camp site, probably not. But like if you're out
Speaker 7: in the middle of nowhere or you're in a remote
Speaker 7: camp or something like that, there's not a lot of
Speaker 7: campers around. Go out during the day, come back at night, sit,
Speaker 7: wait for them to come to you. But situational awareness,
Speaker 7: be listening, be watching over your partner's shoulder, be looking
Speaker 7: for eyeshine, be looking for movement. Nos Like, all the
Speaker 7: senses you need, all your senses online, you need to
Speaker 7: be sniffing. You need to be looking, you need to
Speaker 7: be listening, you need to be feeling from inside what's
Speaker 7: going on around you. If you get a feeling that
Speaker 7: there's something hinky going on, pay attention to it. You
Speaker 7: don't have to react, but pay attention to it. So
Speaker 7: I've learned over the years. You can go look for Bigfoot,
Speaker 7: go for it.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 7: But if you're out in the middle of nowhere, Bigfoot's
Speaker 7: gonna find you first. They know you're there, So just
Speaker 7: let them come.
Speaker 4: To you, you know.
Speaker 7: So that that's probably what I've learned. I'm trying to
Speaker 7: think of what else. Let them come to you. Keep
Speaker 7: an open mind, keep an open mind. Yeah, we I
Speaker 7: grew up in this flesh and blood community. I was
Speaker 7: raised with they are flesh and blood only they are
Speaker 7: creatures like any grizzly bear out there. And cool an
Speaker 7: open mind because we don't actually know what they are. Yeah,
Speaker 7: So that's what I've learned over the years, and that's
Speaker 7: kind of where I've landed so far.
Speaker 6: Is uh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm open to a lot of evidence. I hate
Speaker 7: AI when it comes to Bigfoot for podcasts and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. Fantastic for creating images and audios and all that.
Speaker 7: Now that does not apply to the Bigfoot vlog thing
Speaker 7: that's out that that that gold, absolute gold. I adore
Speaker 7: those videos. Those those get a pass. But I think,
Speaker 7: you know when people share videos and pictures now on
Speaker 7: the I just have to I have to disconnect and
Speaker 7: just push that away because I can't trust anything that
Speaker 7: comes out. So that's that is an unfortunate side effect
Speaker 7: of AI technology is that it it definitely is like
Speaker 7: the modern day hoaxing.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I unfortunately have to disagree with you for
Speaker 5: the first time on this show. I am so sick
Speaker 5: of the Bigfoot blogs. Really, everyone keeps sending me these videos, okay, yes,
Speaker 5: and of them are absolute garbage. There's one that I
Speaker 5: did find and one of my team members actually sent
Speaker 5: it to me, and it's a Bigfoot reading like Q
Speaker 5: and A from the fans. Oh, he's complaining about Mothman
Speaker 5: and all this other stuff.
Speaker 6: And that one I thought was funny.
Speaker 7: But I've been sent all of them, and at first
Speaker 7: I was just like, I'm not watching this, Like, I
Speaker 7: get sent so much Bigfoot stuff and that's great. I
Speaker 7: appreciate it very much. Of the time, I've already seen
Speaker 7: everything's being sent to me. But I was sent a
Speaker 7: compilation of the funniest parts of that Bigfoot blog that one.
Speaker 7: I'll forward it to you because you don't have to
Speaker 7: thank you. And then I was sent a jeep one
Speaker 7: this morning of a yetti that he's like, you're supposed
Speaker 7: to put a duck on your jeep, and he like
Speaker 7: he throws the duck at the jeep and it just
Speaker 7: kind of disintegrates. But it was it was pretty hilarious too,
Speaker 7: So yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 6: Awesome.
Speaker 5: All right, Well this is our last question here and
Speaker 5: we will wrap this up then for you. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: don't know anything about the gug Wie?
Speaker 7: Is that how you say that? Great?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 7: That That's not where I was going with it.
Speaker 1: In my head.
Speaker 5: Maybe this took a dark turn on the topic. But
Speaker 5: have you ever had or had any stories that involved
Speaker 5: the gug Wie?
Speaker 6: The horror, the pure horror?
Speaker 5: And it says it is said that if a grizzly moose, wolf, bear,
Speaker 5: baldy guler, sasquatch run past you, the gug Weee is
Speaker 5: not far behind you, better start running. It's from my understanding,
Speaker 5: it's kind of like just a big, nasty bigfoot kind
Speaker 5: of creature.
Speaker 7: I feel like I've heard the name, but I didn't
Speaker 7: know which cryptid was tied to it. It makes me
Speaker 7: think of just wild man or grassman or yeah, is
Speaker 7: the grassman of Google week? Gog Week? I already forgot
Speaker 7: how Yeah, it's fine. I yeah, definitely have not delved
Speaker 7: into that. And also no thank you to that, No
Speaker 7: thank you to that.
Speaker 5: It is a let's say it is a name used
Speaker 5: in cryptosology, primarily in discussion related to bigfoot or sasquatch,
Speaker 5: particularly in context of the Beast of Seven Shoots. It
Speaker 5: is often described as a large ape like creature with
Speaker 5: distinct features and sometimes associated with aggressive behavior. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: seven shoots big foot.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why that sounds familiar. And I think Rob
Speaker 7: Gooday did A does a presentation on the Seven Shoots.
Speaker 7: So yeah, uh hmm, I'll pass. I mean, thank you
Speaker 7: for the heads up. We'll keep it back here. But yeah,
Speaker 7: if any of those creatures run past me, actually a sasquatch,
Speaker 7: I'm I.
Speaker 4: Don't know.
Speaker 7: Fifty percent of me wants to kind of stay and
Speaker 7: see why they're what is chasing them, But then the
Speaker 7: other part, yeah, I might catch a ride on one
Speaker 7: of them, like, hey, you know, yeah, goodness, gracious, I'm
Speaker 7: learning so much on this show. It's fantastic. You can
Speaker 7: see that I've been and like stuck in the Bigfoot
Speaker 7: wheelhouse for so long. I haven't really I've expanded to
Speaker 7: a few Native American cryptids that are absolutely terrifying, but
Speaker 7: definitely not those things. So I've got some homework to do.
Speaker 7: Thank you, thanks for that.
Speaker 6: Very cool, very cool.
Speaker 5: So we kind of talked about this a little bit
Speaker 5: earlier your podcast and where people can find you and stuff,
Speaker 5: but at the end here, let's tell everybody where you
Speaker 5: can get your stuff.
Speaker 6: I think I think I have your.
Speaker 5: Yeah, your link tree and the YouTube are in the
Speaker 5: show notes for anybody that so all that should be there.
Speaker 5: But anybody that's listening, where can they find you? And
Speaker 5: do you have any other events? Are you speaking anywhere?
Speaker 5: Or get anything coming up that you want to promote
Speaker 5: and show up?
Speaker 7: So you can find me on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok YouTube
Speaker 7: if you so. I do a live show also just
Speaker 7: like my friend here every other Wednesday, and so you
Speaker 7: can come catch me live with my guest. And if
Speaker 7: you can't catch me live, you can catch me on
Speaker 7: YouTube or I also take those videos, turn them into
Speaker 7: audio and put them on any podcast app that tickles
Speaker 7: your fancy. I am going to be I go to
Speaker 7: I go to events every now and then I do.
Speaker 7: I'm actually gonna be speaking at the HANOBE Conference in
Speaker 7: Oklahoma again this year. I believe there's another foul thing
Speaker 7: coming up. Yeah. I post those on my social media
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Speaker 6: Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: I think that's all we got. Goog we is also
Speaker 5: known as the face Eater. Yeah that's great, awesome, Yeah,
Speaker 5: definitely wrong. Let's let's go gog weee hunting now.
Speaker 7: So who's into that? I mean, who hunts these things?
Speaker 7: I want to meet them and shake their hand.
Speaker 5: Awesome lot of love for you here, great show, Thank
Speaker 5: you for sharing experiences. Thanks guys, thank you, and this
Speaker 5: one's get along. Thanks for your time, insight, questions, commentary,
Speaker 5: truly and honor much appreciate it. Stay happy, healthy, and blessed.
Speaker 5: All right, thanks guys.
Speaker 7: For listening art, Thank you guys for having me awesome.
Speaker 6: Thank you for being here. I look forward to having
Speaker 6: you on and chatting again.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, Thank you bye everybody.
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