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Speaker 1: I'm sixty five years old and I live in the

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stycks of northeast Texas, down in the Soffer River Bottoms area. Yeah,

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I'm a Redneck, she says. I'm very proud of my heritage.

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But I'm also a college educated business analyst, so by

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both training and nature, I deal in facts. As you

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probably know, there have been too many sightings here to

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count over the years since nineteen seventy five, when I

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was eighteen, I have joked that I had my own

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bigfoot encounter. While I was with my fiance one late

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summer night. We had turned off the farm to market

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road onto a blacktop that led to a dirt road.

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Then we went through the gate into a cow pasture

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to discuss our upcoming wedding. It was a warm summer night,

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so we had the windows down to catch the breeze

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while we sat in the back seat and talked among others.

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That's what I was about to say, Dottie, I don't

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think you just get in the back seat and a

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cow pasture to just have a talk. Come on, in

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the middle of our discussion, I heard something circling the car. Well.

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It took a moment to get my fiance to focus

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on the sound, and his response wasn't what I'd hoped for.

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That's just a cow walking around, he assured me. And

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then he sat up and announced, that's not a cow. Now.

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We've had the rare black bear come down out of

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the ozarks, and cougars and large black cats have been

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seen on occasion, but what I was hearing was not

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walking on four feet. We both jumped up and put

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ourselves together and climbed into the front seat. My fiance

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put the car into drive and spun his tires in

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the wet grass for a minute, and then headed for

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the gate. I tried to tell him just drive through it,

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but he insisted on opening it. While I drove through,

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he got out of the car and I slid into

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the driver's seat. I was watching my fiance through the

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rearview mirror when I saw something large coming at us

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really fast. I started screaming for my fiancee to get

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in the car. He looked up and saw what I saw,

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threw down the gate, jumped in the car as fast

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as he could. I didn't waste any time getting us

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out of there. It came through the gate after us,

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but that's as far as it went and we never

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saw it again. In the moonlight, I could see it

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sillo wet, but not much in detail. What I did

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see was a big and covered in black hair, not fur.

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It was long, stringy hair. It stood head and shoulders

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above my five foot eleven fiance. He took me home

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and we did what everyone does. We never talked about

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it again. It wasn't for the lack of trying on

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my part. Every time I mentioned it during our twenty

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two year marriage, he would play it off as me

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being two and hebriated, and that he couldn't be held

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responsible for what I saw, and then everyone would have

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a good laugh. Well, eventually I started laughing at it too,

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and I began telling the story as a joke. It

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was easy to do when all the shows on TV

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reinforced the idea that Bigfoot really is a joke. And

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then I started listening to your show. When I heard

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other people's encounters, I realized then that it probably wasn't

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a joke. The stories I was hearing began triggering childhood memories,

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and I realized that I'd been having encounters since I

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was a kid. I realized this is turning into a

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long story. But I hope others will hear it and

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it will trigger their memories and make them rethink a

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few ideas as well. We often visited my paternal grandparents,

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who lived deeper in the river bottoms than we did.

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Whenever we'd stay the night, Granny would always tell us

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not to go outside alone at night, or the boogerman

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would get us. They owned dogs that wouldn't let anybody

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in the yard unless Granny called them off. But there

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were a lot of nights when I'd wake up to

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the sound of heavy footsteps outside. I always assumed it

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was Granny because I could hear Granddaddy snoring in the

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room and the dogs weren't barking. Granny was not quite

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five feet tall, and she weighed less than one hundred pounds.

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Looking back, those couldn't have been her footsteps I heard.

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And when I'd ask about it the next morning and

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wondered where the dogs were, she'd always say the boogers

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must have got them. After daylight, the dogs would come

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back and everything would be forgotten. There was a pond

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off an old dirt road that ran to the river

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bottom where we used to like to fish and camp out.

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On occasion, it was called Booger Pond. There were five

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of us kids, my older sister who was seventeen, my

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two brothers fifteen and twelve. I was nine, and my

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younger sister was seven. Our parents would drop us off

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and tell us to be careful and remind us that

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granny lived just a couple of miles across the woods.

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If anything happened. My three older siblings all had guns,

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a twenty two single shot, a single shot four ten,

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and a twelve gage. Sometimes we'd hear heavy splashes in

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the pond that were explained away as fist jumping or

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pigs rooting around. A Few times we woke up the

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next morning to find piles of rocks in the door

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of the tent. Look what the pigs dug up, someone

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would say with a shrug. About this same time, I

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remember camping in our back pasture. We grew up on

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a fifty acre farm, the back pasture of which had

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a woodline that stretched between the fence and a creek bed.

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It was one of our favorite getaways after a long

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day in the hayfields or running cattle. One night, we

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were out there sleeping under the stars around the fire

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when we started hearing the coyotes getting a lot close

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than they normally do, except they didn't quite sound like coyotes,

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and there was an occasional scream that sounded somewhat like

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a panther. My older siblings said it was time to

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get home. They had their guns, and they told my

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baby sister and me to each grab a good stick

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of wood ei of the fire to use as a torch.

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Don't look back, they told us, keep the torches pointing

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toward the house. Growing up, we would often hear stories

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of boogers going on to one neighbor or another's back

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porch and making a mess. And occasionally there were the

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cows that were found in the pasture, ripped to shreds

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and half eaten. Both of my brothers have passed on,

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so I can't ask them about it. Whenever I asked

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my older sister, she says I was too young to

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have any of those memories, and she's too old to

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think about that nonsense. Now. She and my older sister

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lived two miles from our grandparents' old farm, and it's

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interesting that they'll go outside at night to see what

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the dog is barking at, but if they hear something

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in the dog is solid. They stay inside. There's one

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more thing. It's not a memory, more like glimpses of

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a memory. When I was about five, I remember being

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afraid of red eyes in the window. To this day,

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I have a panic attack if I see an animal

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with red eyes in real life or in a movie.

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For most of my life, I've had a recurring dream

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about animals circling my house at night. I see red

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eyes in the window watching me when I find myself

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outside and this dog face animal is standing up right

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in front of me. The dream is so vivid, and

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I always wake up panicked and crying. What frightens me

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the most is that I started having the dream about

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the same time. My dad came home one night from

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his second shift job and found me standing in the yard.

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As far as I I know, I had never before,

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nor have I ever since, walked in my sleep. Yet

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on that night, my father found me outside with the dogs.

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One of them was a half wolf, half German shepherd,

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and the other was an English shepher clearly in protection mode.

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As soon as my dad got out of the car,

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the dogs ran off chasing something. The next day he

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told me he'd found the dogs. They'd been in a

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fight with something, and he thought it might have been

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a wolf, and it tore them up so bad he

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had to put them both down. A couple of years ago,

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I mentioned my dream to my younger sister and she

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turned to white as a ghost and said she had

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the same dream. We went to our older sister, who

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confirmed that she has the dream too, and then we

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did what we always do. We didn't never talk about

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it again. I served twenty two years in the Army

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as a military policeman and spent loads of time in

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the woods, which I loved as I grew up in

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the city. I've never told anyone about what I'm about

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to tell you. My unit was conducting pre deployment training

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at Fort Polpe, Louisiana in the far reaches of the base,

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in an area called Peace and Ridge. I love this

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area of remoteness. I was stationed there in the late eighties.

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We had finished training for the day in eighth chow,

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completed all the meetings and were settling down for the evening.

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Always chose to sleep outside to get away from all

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the snoring and farting of the twelve man's sleep tent.

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I slept on the ground a few yards away, But

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this time I strung up a portable hammock, the kind

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that you can roll up and fit in a pocket

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of your field pack, so I could get off the ground.

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A snake had crawled into my sleeping bag with me

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the last time I slept on the ground. There would

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be no more of that for me. I was settling

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in and I remembered I had some orange I took

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from chow, so I decided to have a snack. That's

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when I smelled a nasty skunk. It was horrible, and

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I thank god that I was off the ground. It

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was a bright night, even though the moon was not

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quite full, and the sky was clear. It was a

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perfect night to sleep under the stars. Out of the

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corner of my eye, I saw someone walking, and I

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assumed it was another sergeant checking the perimeter, or someone

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hitting the woodline to relieve himself. Well, I didn't look

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up from the orange I was peeling, and I said,

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watch out, there's a nasty skunk out that way. And

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at the sound of my voice, the figure stopped and

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headed towards me, stopping about four feet from me, and

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then squatted down next to me in my hammock. I

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turned my head to ask what he wanted, and to

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my shock, in horror, I was looking at a guy

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in a camouflaged Gilly's suit. It was really weird. And

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then I realized that was not what I was looking at,

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and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I focused

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in a little better in the dark. It was a bigfoot,

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not a giant bigfoot, but a little bigfoot. And in

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my shock, I must have jumped about, causing my hammock

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to swing, and that caused him to jump back. He

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stood there, focused on the hammock, swinging slightly. As scared

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as I was. I got the sense that he wasn't threatening,

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but more curious, judging by the expression on his face.

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And yes, it was a hymn. I've heard they can

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sense your intentions, so I don't know why, but I

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handed him the orange that I had just peeled. I said,

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if you'll go away, you can have my orange. The

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creature cocked his head and took the orange from my hand,

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and then stood up and reached out and pushed my hammock.

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It caused me to start swinging again, and then it

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began making cooing noises like a chimpanzee does when it's amused.

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The tree line was a few yards away, and from

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there came the scariest scream I've ever heard. The little

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bigfoot looked in the direction of that scream, and then

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it looked back at me. I said, your mama's calling.

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He held up the orange as if thanking me, and

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then it was gone in an instant without making any noise.

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After a few minutes, I decided screw this, and I

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almost kill myself trying to get out of my hammock,

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and I slept on the ground in the middle of

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the tent. The next morning, I went to collect my

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hammock and field pack, only to find three shiny rocks

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piled on top of my pack. Never in a million

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years did I ever think I'd experience anything like this.

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I never once felt threatened. I was scared, yes, but

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not threatened. I never again slept out sideline that alone,

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and I still have my three rocks. I traded for

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an orange with a little bigfoot. So I was eighteen

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years old when this happened. I lived in Connecticut. Now

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I'm fifty years old. Now this is the first time

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I've spoken of this. In fact, I had to explain

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it all to my wife, because she wasn't interested in

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hearing that I'm writing a long email about nothing. At

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the age of sixteen, I moved out of my house

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to live with my cousin and his wife. They lived

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on a farm that my cousin's wife's family had owned

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for years. They had over one hundred acres of property

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that was backed up by water company property, So to

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say that this was the most woods I'd ever seen

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was an understatement. They had all the animals you would

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expect to see on a farm, but the family's main

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source of income were their cows. They raised both milk

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and meat cows, and they they all roamed free in

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separate fields. These people were adamant about not letting strangers

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on their land, and they had no problem expressing their

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no hospitality rules. Me Bringing friends onto the property was

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also frowned upon. Their driveway was six tenths of a

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mile long just over half a mile. It was an unpaved,

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rocky stretch of driveway. If you didn't own a truck

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or an suv and didn't know how to maneuver it,

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you would definitely do damage to your vehicle. You'll understand

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why I'm including the trivial description of the driveway later

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in the story. I spent a lot of time in

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those woods hunting and fishing. After a while, I noticed

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that there were quite a few man made trails that

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went all over the property. Some went straight to some

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little pop up trailers that were always there. No one

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ever stated them, but I saw them that they seemed

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to be cashes for storing hunting rifles. There were four

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of these little campers all over their property, and if

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there were more, I never saw them. When I ask

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about these campers, I was told that they used to

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get a lot of poachers on the property, and it

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was a way to scare people off if you fired

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a weapon into the air well. That answer was a

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good answer, but it still seemed weird that these people

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held on to so many guns. There were even a

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few nights that I was called upon to help scare

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off trespassers, but I never actually saw any. There was

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definitely a problem with animals going missing on this form,

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so it all seemed normal to be woken in the

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middle of the night to run out in the woods

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with a shotgun and fire a few shells in the

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air over the course of the two years I had

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been there, I got to know the property well. I

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also got used to walking in the middle of the night.

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But I don't care who you are. If you spend

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any time alone in the woods, especially at night, it

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can be scary. I think back now, and I realized

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there were things that happened and we never gave it

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a second thought. Late one night, my cousin, his wife,

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and myself were called because her parents said the pigs

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had gotten loose. When we got to the pig pen,

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we saw that the door had been ripped off. We

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assumed that it was probably a coyote or a wolf.

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I don't know if you've ever had to try to

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catch baby pigs, but it isn't easy. It took us

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hours to round up the baby pigs except for one,

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and we assumed it got away and we forgot about it.

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There were times I remember having to get out of

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bed in the middle of the night for weird reasons.

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On another night, we were told that there were raccoons

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in the barn making a mess, and when we got

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to the barn, we called her parents on the walkie

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talkies to let them know that we were there, and

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they said to stay out outside and fire a few

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rounds into the air, and do not go in the barn.

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They said, well, we shot a few times into the sky.

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We heard noises inside the barn, and at this point

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her parents were just arriving on a couple of ATVs.

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They said for us to stay put because the raccoons

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would leave on their own. One morning, her parents told

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us to go squirrel hunting because they were eating at

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the electrical wires in the barn. We all had it

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out there with our shotguns. After an hour, we split

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up to cover more ground. I found myself in one

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of the huge fields and started walking across, not thinking

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about where I was exactly. The wind was blowing hard

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and it was all I could hear. But even in

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the wind, I heard my cousin screaming. And now I

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turned to see where the sound was coming from, and

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I saw my cousin standing on the other side of

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the field, several hundred yards away. At that distance I

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could not see him well, but it had to be him.

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We were the only people out there. Well, he screamed

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a second time, and when I looked over at him,

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it occurred to me where I was. I had not

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been paying attention. I was in the field where they

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kept their stud bull. Now I could see the brute

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coming at me, and as luck would have it, I

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was close to the fence and was able to get

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on the other side before the bull made it to me.

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I started working my way around the field, and after

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an hour I ran into my cousin and his wife.

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I said, that was crazy. Thank you for the heads

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up on that bull. I didn't realize I was in

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the bull's field. Well, my cousin looked at me like

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I was off my rocker. What the hell are you

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talking about? And why were you in that field? We

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didn't warn you about the bull? Well who screamed at me?

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Then now we suspected a trespasser had warned me. But

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why would he do that if he was trespassing. We

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split up again and searched for this person for a while,

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but we never found anyone. Not long after this event,

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I came home from a date around three am. My

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new girlfriend drove us that night. She let me off

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at the end of the rough driveway because her car

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wouldn't make it to the house. The last thing I

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heard were her tires crunching gravel. And then fading to nothing.

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It was freezing cold and it was silent that night,

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no wind. I had walked this driveway hundreds of times,

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and it was always creepy at night. Some nights when

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the moon wasn't out, I had to be careful where

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I stepped. However, on this night, the moon gave me

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plenty of light to see. I was in a good

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mood after spending the evening with this girl, and my

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mind was there and not in the present. I heard

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a sound and that stopped me. It almost sounded like

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a deer huffing or blowing, but it was too loud

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for that, tuning everything out of my mind, I listened closely.

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Something was walking toward me in the woods next to

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the drive Whatever it was, it was walking at a

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normal pace, and it wasn't rushing me, and it was

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clearly on two legs. I stepped backward twenty paces or

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so my mind told me it was a poacher coming

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down the game trail. Well, that seemed reasonable. In a

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minute I would be face to face with this person

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if they kept coming. So I crouched slow, almost flat

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to the ground, with my legs still under me. It

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would be better if This guy never saw me and

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just kept on going, and once he was by me,

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I would sprint to the house and get help. So

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making myself small as possible, I waited. Finally this guy

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stepped into the clear and onto the road. But it

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wasn't a poacher. One more step and he was in

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the middle of the drive, even closer to me. Maybe

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I had made a noise, or maybe it was a

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sense he had about things, But as he was about

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to take another huge step, he stopped. He looked right

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at me. No human could have seen me off in

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that area that I was in, but he saw me.

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Now terrified, I locked onto this thing and I never

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took my eyes away. It was huge and covered in hair,

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and steam rose from its wet shoulders, back and head.

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Illuminated in the moonlight. It was the scariest image I

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have ever seen. The only option left for me was

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to run, and I was about to when a sense

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of peace and calm came over me. It was instant,

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like a switch had been turned on in my mind

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and in my body. The way it looked at me

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was strange, almost as if it had pity on me,

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like it knew I was terrified and it didn't want

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to scare me anymore. The giant creature took one step

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back into the woods, only one step, and then it

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was gone. I heard it walk up the hill, crunching

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leaves and twigs as it walked, and then the night

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faded into silence again. In the welcome silence, I stood

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and gazed into the lit woods in front of me,

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and I began to shake. I realized what I had encountered,

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and I vomited and finally regained composure, and then I

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casually walked the half mile to the house. Later that night,

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after going to bed, I lay there thinking for hours.

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The family I lived with knew about these things, or

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this thing that was the reason that they were adamant

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about keeping trespassers off their property. It wasn't people they

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were worried about. It was this thing, but the trespassers

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weren't people. And then explained the guns and the warning shots,

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And now I knew why they kept us out of

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the barn that night when we heard the noises of

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the raccoons, and it was now clear to me who

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had yelled at me on the edge of the bulfield

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and saved my life that night

