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Speaker 1: Diehard's not a Christmas movie, all right, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Go Welcome to It just means more football and coffee.

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I'm Rob Williams. He is Craig McMichael. Can find us

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on Socials at Rob Williams GCP at mcmichah seven. And

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the day has finally come, ladies and gentlemen, where we

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have the man, the myth, and the legend, Memphis Spence

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on the show at the same time that I'm on

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the show. You know, I'm thankful that he was able

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to Greg. It is indeed possible. So if you're on

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X at Memphis Spence, you can check him out. Spence,

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what's happening, tell us what's going on? Tell us how

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tell the listeners how they can find you and listen

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to you on a regular basis.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because I think you all have just

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missed one of the last radio broadcasts I had. Uh,

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We're gonna be doing a whole lot more TV and

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everything else. But you you can catch me at Memphis

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Spence on well, really almost any platform.

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Speaker 1: I usually hang out on X these days. I'm trying

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to figure out Instagram and Facebook a little bit more,

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but I'm usually on X.

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of where you can kind of catch

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what's going on. Sports Radio America is the outlet which

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I'm the general manager and one of the owners of.

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And I've been fifteen years running that, fifteen years of

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actually having a live streaming show, and it was time

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to time to progress, time to move on, and now

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is the.

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Speaker 1: Time to do it. So you all catch me.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, by the way, Merry Christmas,

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because I don't I never do anything this late.

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Speaker 1: This is a gift, is.

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Speaker 4: It is a gift that I appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: I want to I want to give you like a

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hat tip because you have been the guy. I mean,

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we've we've known each other. I think it's three four

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years now. Whenever it's only the only rough part about

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the new job is sometimes I get stuck in that meeting,

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in that twelve to two spot.

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Speaker 4: But I tell you, like the college credit.

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Speaker 5: Hour, not only are you bringing on like unk, but

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you are bringing on the guests. But the biggest things,

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you're setting the straight and that's what I always love.

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So it's a gift whenever you're on. So I will

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take this Christmas gift of you coming on, you know

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here I think this show is going to come out

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Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 4: What a perfect day. I would celebrate with a steak.

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Speaker 5: I know Rob is probably going to have like a

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piece of coconut shrimp or some cheese fries, but I

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will have a great celebration in your honor.

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Speaker 2: We're still We're still the morning ha ha half bal

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as ready for Christmas Eve as I'm that's good, that's great.

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Speaker 5: But what I do want to do is I want

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to I want to toast both of you. Uh, not

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only are you my co host, but you guys. I

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swear I was with my best friends, so I appreciate

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you all.

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Speaker 4: And there's no one else the.

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Speaker 1: Tears.

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Speaker 2: I'm rocking the eggnog again. It's Christmas time, baby. We'll

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get to the drinks in just a second. Let me

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backtrack and make sure that you that you guys remember

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to go to at Gridron Coast on x as well

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and check out all of the family of shows that

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are on our network there. In affiliation with the Last

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Word on college football, we love we love being a

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part of grid Iron Coast and there's so many opportunities

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to check out every conference in college football. It's specific

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to your geographic location or maybe a specific to your conference.

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But here we are looking at the SEC because the

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SEC is the best. Baby, we know it just means more.

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So what does it just? What does it just mean?

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More of? In your cup tonight, gentlemen, I once again

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have the eggnog. I see Craig has pulled out a

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nice sippy cup with a straw over there, looking like

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some looking like some OJ So we can only imagine

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that he's supporting the Georgia and I.

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Speaker 5: L I am hungering down for Georgia student athletes. We

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are hitting the portal, hitting the portal hard. We got

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to make sure the classic city is well supported.

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Speaker 2: Spence the tumblr. The tumblr is full. What you got

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rocking over there? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I got some coffee. I thought I thought this was

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about coffee and football, So I have coffee here. You

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know what was I supposed to were you drinking?

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Speaker 2: I had my I had my late night coffee last

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night with a nice slice of pound cakes. Shout out

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to my mom. But yeah, maybe not tonight. Maybe I'm

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gonna try to get a little extra sleep tonight and

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and not be not be rocking with the coffee. All right, Look, guys,

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we can chit chat all night long, but we do

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talk about we know we're here for one thing. Because

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we just had an opening round of college football playoff

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for the first time ever, a twelve team college ball playoff.

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Speaker 1: Did it have to be twelve?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think it has to be sixteen.

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Speaker 5: It's a compromise twelve, So I think twelve. Was that

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compromise right, because it's like, if we're going to have

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auto bids, because we're gonna have to have autobids, we're

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gonna have to do twelve. But like what I think

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we have to keep in mind, anything in life, if

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you're going to be successful, has to be iterative. And

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is this or that. Instead I would rather elevate and say,

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let's be iterative, because yes, the games were not quite

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what we wanted, but there was an opportunity presented to us.

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good as a teacher now of twenty years as of

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conference you said something positive, something negative, something and here's

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the positive. It was fantastic to see these games at home,

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whether you're looking at you know, Notre Dame and how

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beautiful touchdown Jesus and everything looked at but even you know,

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we were poking at the balls here a little bit earlier.

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What a shock, Josh Heipel and the Bows cracked themselves

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in a big game.

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Speaker 4: Well, what was really.

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Speaker 5: Impressive was like thirty thousand Voles fans coming up seventy one,

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taking over Columbus, embracing that party, you know, coming coming

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to Ohio Stadium. Because there was something more this weekend

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because we weren't at a dome, because we weren't at

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Mercedes Benz. That's true, that's true at the Superdome. So

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like and I know it wasn't truly a home field advantage,

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but you know what, like there's something special there.

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Speaker 2: It was truly a home field advantage. It was I

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would say it was truly home home environment completely because

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Speaker 5: But but but when they get together at the Championship,

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like I'd rather have that game in Athens in New Orleans. No,

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for sure, I know for certain Oregon would rather have

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that rematch against Ohio State as nice as it is

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history to be you know, with the Suns that at

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the Rose Bowl, better to be at Austin. So, like,

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Speaker 2: Would be fun.

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Speaker 5: And even seeing Arizona State having to host the enemy Texas,

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be fun. So I would rather look at the positive.

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Speaker 4: Were those environments?

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Speaker 5: Were those We're going to talk about them positivity.

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Speaker 1: So here's what here's here's the donate I'm going to

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throw into this conversation because obviously I've been doing this

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professionally for a while.

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Speaker 3: What you're talking about is what we want to see,

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but not in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: We want to see that during the regular season.

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Speaker 3: During the regular season is when these games need to

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be played. Home field advantage in college the regular season,

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it's not for for for the playoffs especially well, because

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then what happens if Tennessee plays Ohio State during the

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regular season. Now we have a meaningful game.

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Speaker 1: What we're looking for in broadcast, you're.

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Speaker 3: Always looking for meaningful games. Meaningful games you can actually

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sell advertising around, you know, in television, if you have

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more than five million people, we call it a golden

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ticket because you can pretty much sell anything around goal ticket.

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these days, with as fractured as media is, it's still

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it's still meaningful. And college football usually gets you a

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lot of games. Get to that million, we'll watch your

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market at some point in the game.

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Speaker 1: Quite a few.

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Speaker 3: Those games during the regular season boost the They do

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two things. They boost the value of the regular season

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because then all of a sudden, you have meaningful games during.

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Speaker 1: The regular season. Not that we have more now.

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Speaker 3: Because I've been complaining about this for like fifteen years,

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actually probably twenty we have more now, But there would.

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Speaker 1: That game that we just watched, if we had.

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Speaker 3: It during the regular season, then those kids at Tennessee

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wouldn't have been out there hurt playing Ohio State, which

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was a way better school than they are. But we

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but we fancy ourselves like we didn't know, I knew,

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answer ourselves, like, we didn't know because they haven't played, right,

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the regular season, teams get to places where maybe they

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Speaker 1: Just because they don't have the depth of schedule.

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Speaker 3: And that's all being done. Really, there's there's a whole

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lot of behind the scenes. The commissioners themselves. At some

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point in time, they're going to have to get together.

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I know once we had the alliance and we saw

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how that worked.

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Speaker 5: Out, right, look me in my eyes, the Alliance, right,

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Speaker 2: The biggest that's the biggest joke we've heard in the

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Speaker 3: Right right, exactly, rob the Alliance because that was pretty

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Speaker 1: Nothing on me. You know, I have nothing on me,

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and then decides to murder both of the conferences basically,

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but the ending game.

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Speaker 3: What we need in college football is we need meaningful

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games during the regular season, which makes the actual rankings

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worthwhile without having Let's take the ACC for example, Clemson

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didn't play Miami.

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Speaker 1: Miami didn't play SMU. SMU didn't play either one of them, right, And.

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Speaker 3: We're all like, well, which once you go to the playoffs,

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we don't know unless you actually have your top teams

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Speaker 1: But the commissioners are scheduling. They're doing these scheduling for

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that purpose so that you don't have that you have

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that everybody's trying to confuse the committee instead of the committee,

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and the NCAA is saying, okay, let's stop this nonsense.

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Speaker 3: In the NFL, they have schedules, Hey, you're playing this

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this division's playing this division that we already know who's

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playing who's who next year in terms of the divisions.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: They do that so that there's not a question on

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you know who, the strength of schedule. If we're having

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some schedule issues in college football, then we're still doing

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Speaker 2: We talked about that. But right, Craig, is what if

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we stop scheduling out eight years in advance and we

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Speaker 5: Shows we could, and we pair up the in coastal

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didn't they get together like in three days?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: We because and Craig, I'm glad you said that. Rob,

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can COVID showed us something that we've also been told

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, we can't do that.

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Speaker 3: These these games take a long time to plan unless

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Speaker 1: Unless you need to, then.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, hey, everybody has a full schedule,

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? Guys? I thought they had to

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take three or four years out.

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Speaker 3: But now that we know, that's all been a sham,

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which I suspected from the beginning, because I mean, it's

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you know, if I can get up and get somewhere,

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so and it's not that easy to move a team, the.

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Speaker 1: Equipment, you know, being the big thing.

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Speaker 3: But still if you can get the equipment out there,

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you can get the team out there.

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Speaker 1: Planes fly every day. I mean.

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Speaker 2: But we also know you know you're going to move it.

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you know that you're going to move it somewhere. Are

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you moving on to Starkville? Are you moving it to Austin?

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Speaker 5: Are you moving it to We know it's not going

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to Starkfel though, Let's be honest, they're ever going to

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Starkvielle never want to start so so so so so

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let me let me respond to that. There, I got

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two things on that. So you look at those those

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rate ratings, and especially you look at.

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Speaker 4: The ratings this year.

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Speaker 5: Yes, one thing the SEC did do well is ratings

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that they may have choked, you know, like they were

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in that that you said the golden number was five.

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Really I think they had close to twenty five. Like

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I did a report, maybe it was like week twelve

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something like that. There was like about eighteen games that

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were on that and I think there were there were

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a handful more. Yeah, And so like I take a

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look at those home home fields and if they and

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if we do a better job of balancing those matchups.

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If Notre Dame is playing Clemson instead of Notre Dame

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playing Indiana, that number both I think that number goes

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from six to eight maybe maybe you know, six six

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eighty six eight.

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Speaker 4: Whatever that may be. And again that's right, but I

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think you also have to look at it.

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Speaker 1: But if Not Dame's playing Miami, I mean think about that,

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like what.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find it. We're gonna find out because they're

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opening the regular station in the next year, right, you

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know what.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying the old common I mean, you know, Catholics

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versus Convicts, bringing that back. I mean, what if that

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happens in the playoffs. There are so many there were

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so many other matchups that could happened. I get why

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they did the Indiana versus Notre Dame matchup. I completely

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understand that when they had it there. As a broadcaster,

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that's something that people wanted to see in that region.

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You're gonna be able to pull numbers from that region.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, and you know, outside of

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the whole point of like selling regional advertising out the

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and that was the chance to do that. I didn't

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think it was gonna be a good matchup. I can

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at this point in my career. I'm like, Okay, that's

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not gonna be a good matchup. I was sitting with

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one of my friends that's an NFL scout, and we

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were sitting there.

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Speaker 1: And looking at the Ohio State Tennessee game, like, you know,

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this isn't gonna be a good matchup. We're like, yeah,

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South Carolina would have been a way better matchup for

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Ohio State just because of how their position.

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Speaker 3: Because keep in mind, all of these games are about

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matchups about records. Records don't really matter on the field.

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Speaker 5: We both got so so and Uncle Tony has has

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had some disagreements with us, But like in our writers chat,

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we have made that very argument that a win is

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not necessarily a win and a record is not necessarily

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a record. It makes it hard. And then the other

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part that's also hard too. From if I'm looking at

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it from SEC perspective, it was very easy for.

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Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin Isle on Indiana at an SMU.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was no.

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Speaker 5: I think, I think, I think there's a layup, right,

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But mister go thirty would agree that the moment got

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a little bit too big.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we know what, right, But like, here's the deal.

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Speaker 5: The moment got too big for the SEC, and here's

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the deal for your ten and two SEC team is

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down twenty one nothing in the first quarter. Is a

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harder argument for those three nine and three teams, which

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one lost to Tennessee un.

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Speaker 2: Leg You look at Tennessee's schedule. There's a reason that

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my spring schedule predictor had them at eleven and one

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this year. And it's not because I thought they were

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going to be that good. And I said that the

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whole time. They had a cakewalk. The same reason I

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had Missouri predicted at ten and two because they had

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a cakewalk. It wasn't because I just believe in Brady

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cooked that much.

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Speaker 4: So here, so here, So here's my question.

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Speaker 5: Where as they're going the school right as we look.

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Speaker 4: At the schedules, eight games is a non starter for us.

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Speaker 5: I know Rob likes Old Dominion and our Sisters the

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Poor and whoever else?

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Speaker 2: Off, who are you playing next year? Go ahead and

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give me that Georgia schedule real quick, Austin P.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to go there, but but I think

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what would help us balance this and figure out who's

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really good? But the SEC is not going to like

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this because Alabama old Miss South Carolina got left out.

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and then you do the SEC versus a C challenge,

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you know, something like that. You're gonna a number of

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conference games and then you're you're going to match up

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with two other conferences, however that is, and we're all

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roughly one to sixteen or so, kind of kind of

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make it, kind of make it work.

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Speaker 2: Three, if not four, other conferences is coming.

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Speaker 4: So would you do, so would you do it?

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Speaker 2: What did it mean? I've heard it's coming.

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Speaker 3: If it's coming, then this would be I can retire

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because one of the things that I've you guys know

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that I'm a national voter for the FWAA. It's one

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of the hardest things that I do week in and

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week out. Right, there's fifty five of us. We try

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and figure out exactly who the best teams are. Each

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and every one of us have different ways to do that.

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I've talked to other voters or whatnot, and you know,

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they all have their own systems and I have mine.

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Speaker 1: And the unique thing about our systems is A. I

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think the FBA takes it way serious, more serious than

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like the AP. Don't tell them that though.

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Speaker 2: But b.

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Speaker 1: There's less of us than the AP, so our votes

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count more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's one of those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the big piece. And you know there's

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if you Phil Steel has his own thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, Rachel Lendzay talked to her quite a bit

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for Buffalo Buffalo News. She has her own thing, her

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own way, her own system or whatnot. Bill Bender, you know,

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I have him on the show quite a few times

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Sporting News. He has his own system and I have mine,

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And you know, there's the hardest thing to do is

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to because we're kind of serving Oh man, we're kind

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of and I think you'll get this rob me and

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you will crank to you. We're kind of serving two masters.

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And you should never do that. You should never do that, Yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to be true to.

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Speaker 3: Your system, then you should do that. But then you

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know you're turning this into a system that wants a

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certain result. So me trying to defend why old missus

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you know nine and three is better than Alabama's nine

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and three is really hard to do, especially in the

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same conference. It's even harder to do because of the

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bias that people would believe that, hey, this nine and

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if I tell you this nine and three might be

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better than this ten and two over here.

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Speaker 1: That's even harder to do.

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Speaker 3: Even though I have some data, especially because my system

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still has some of that BCS data in it. I

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love the b CS and I did. I think that

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we should have built on that system instead of getting.

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Speaker 1: Rid of it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, who am I to be a component?

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Speaker 1: It should be? It should it should at least be

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a tool that we can we can all.

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Speaker 2: Kind of we don't need any tools. We don't need

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any tools. We need to put businessmen and lawyers in

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a room with with with nothing to write on, not

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a computer.

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Speaker 5: Insight, billable hours, wins again and and let them.

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Speaker 2: Make the decision.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what's happening.

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Speaker 2: What you know we should do. We should give them

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eighty hours of work in their in their day job

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and then also have them holding the balance all of

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college football and what's happening in the playoff. That seems

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like that would really work.

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Speaker 3: Well better yet, Rob, this is what we should do.

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And Tony, Tony, Sarah House and I have talked about

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this and we can't. I cannot find a reason why

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this isn't a violation of some sort.

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Speaker 1: This will be a.

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Speaker 3: Violation if this happened in say a different context. Uh,

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the NCAA would come down hard on this. There's a

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clear conflict of interest when you have active, active athletic directors.

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It's crazy athletic directors on the commission. I'm not saying

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they don't know what the they you know, they don't

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know their football or whatnot, but when you.

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Speaker 5: Likest they don't know the nca there's one that doesn't

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know the NCAA rules, and somehow they got the nation's

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number one quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm sure that was all.

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Speaker 2: They don't know their football Half of them aren't aren't

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even sports people. They're hired for other purposes.

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Speaker 1: Well, even so, if they're the athletic director, it's in

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their best interest for number one, their school to be represented.

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Number two their conference to be represented.

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Speaker 5: Right, maybe you get something dumb thing. They're gonna have

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to have that conference together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, have their best interest to do the other.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're legally bound to have a fiduciary duty

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to actually act in the best interest of their university.

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Speaker 1: It's actually in their contract. So riddle me this, batman.

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Speaker 3: Why on earth should I ever believe that the college

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football Playoff Committee is acting in anything else other than

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their particular school's best interest. Every year, I've actually looked

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at who's on the committee because it changes out. The

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thing is it just changed out like year after year

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after year.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ward Manuel was the guy this year was.

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Speaker 3: Boo last year. It changes out year after year after year.

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But because it changes out year after year after year,

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there are you can see some clear divisions in what

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they want year after year, which is why when I

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attend those meetings and we ask them those questions, I'm

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trying to and all the rest of the journalists are

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trying to get a feel of, Okay, how how how

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are you thirteen going to look at the records this year?

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Because it's changed, and it changes every year as to

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what they value the most. And then once I figure

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out exactly what they value the most, then I have

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a good idea as to who's going to be in

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this college football playoff based on what schools they're representing

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and or what conferences they're representing, and especially the active ones.

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I mean, you know, or Manuel's on the committee. Of

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course Michigan. Michigan's not going to get penalized. They're going

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to play for national championship.

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Speaker 1: What did you do we think that that's a coincidence?

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And of course not. I mean, and I know that.

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Speaker 3: I'm one of those people that will point out things

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that look like improprieties a little bit more. And I've

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slapped on my hand by by Indianapolis quite a.

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Speaker 1: Few times for that. But I got to keep it real, guys.

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There's there are things that are going on that the general.

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Speaker 3: Public, for entertainment purposes kind of has an idea like

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wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are we watching?

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Speaker 3: And it's really just a performance that's put on by

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They're not bad actors because they want the best for

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the sport.

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Speaker 1: But I will I.

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Speaker 3: Can say with a degree of certainty that they for

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the conflicts flips of interest that already exist, they cannot

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be as objective as even journalists covering the schools because,

477
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,200
if nothing else, journalists aren't paid by the schools that

478
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are going to get into the playoffs make the.

479
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Speaker 5: Money anyway, What is it like when you think about

480
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,359
if we flipped from administration journalists, is it going with.

481
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Speaker 4: The national guys? Is it going with b writers? Like

482
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,400
like how like?

483
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 5: And that that becomes a question of like because well, yeah.

484
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,799
Speaker 3: You're I like the question great, because now you're thinking

485
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,880
along the same line like I was all in favor

486
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,440
of a BCS system that helped take.

487
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,799
Speaker 1: Some of that responsibility out of our heads.

488
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,799
Speaker 3: The reason is is because if you think that it

489
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can be which it is corrupted.

490
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Speaker 1: Now for certain reasons.

491
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Speaker 3: What do you think a journalist making most of us

492
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,680
make less than one hundred thousand dollars at least doing that,

493
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,039
you know, they can be corrected a lot easier than

494
00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:02,359
an athletic director. Right, So you know if you if

495
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,839
you leave it in the hands of just journalists, then

496
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,160
you're opening yourself up to other improprieties just like you.

497
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:11,279
Speaker 1: Did, you know, I mean even NBA.

498
00:26:12,039 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 3: You know refs get paid under the table sometimes. We

499
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:19,119
know that, So we don't want that. We want the

500
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best system possible. And the computers helped at least helped

501
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,559
take some of that responsibility. Well, how do you corrupt

502
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:27,799
a computer unless you hack it?

503
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,079
Speaker 1: Right?

504
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 5: So well, but but but I think what what you

505
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:37,119
always worry about mm HM is data can tell a story.

506
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,440
It always do right, And if you're good and you

507
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,880
know how to tell a story, m you can make

508
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,359
whatever data you want like And I think.

509
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Speaker 4: That becomes a question. That's why I like to be SI.

510
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,839
Speaker 2: That's why I yeah, why not steal from why not

511
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,359
steal from basketball? And have have established metrics, but also

512
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,559
have people in the room to course correct if the

513
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:03,519
metrics are clearly not meeting the eye test. I saw

514
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:06,680
a graphic today, so it makes sense that presented the

515
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:10,319
idea of the quad system that's used for the net

516
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,400
rankings and the NC do a basketball and I think

517
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,160
that that would go a long way towards us fixing

518
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,200
this quote unquote strength of schedule problem. If we're not

519
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,319
going to get interconference scheduling back and forth, that balances out.

520
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: Now, keep in.

521
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: Mind, interconference scheduling is what the actual answer is. And

522
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:33,440
the commissioners themselves have been playing games. It's it's literally

523
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:37,200
game of Thrones, honestly behind the scenes. I mean, if

524
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,599
people don't really why watch HBO when you can watch

525
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,440
you know, the SEC and the Big Ten. You know

526
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,640
kind of plot against the ACC and the PAC twelve, right,

527
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:53,440
so the whatever's left of the PAC twelve now, But

528
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,160
it's it's really game of Thrones. I mean they're acting

529
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,119
in their best which is why I go back to

530
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,480
the whole idea.

531
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Speaker 1: Why these people on the committee.

532
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,559
Speaker 3: We know what they're doing. We just watched a conference

533
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,559
collapse because a commissioner got together with athletic directors in

534
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:13,160
the Big Ten and decided.

535
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:16,039
Speaker 1: To, you know, hey, let's let's let's let them think

536
00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:18,880
that you know, you know.

537
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: Where the where the allegiance, you know where the alliance.

538
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 5: So so so so if if you're looking at Matthew

539
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,119
become you take over Greg Sanky's job and you become

540
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,000
the I don't want that because because that's that's why

541
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,319
we moved on from college credit hour. But like, so,

542
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,519
one data point is your b CS and what would

543
00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:49,599
the ideal be We have nine conferences, lost nine conference

544
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,720
games within that conference, okay, and then what we do

545
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,559
We put the remaining nine conferences in the pods of

546
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,079
three and then one will play one, two will play two,

547
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,359
three will play three, and you make it make sense's

548
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,440
you don't worry about the asset must be honest. What

549
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,279
we're worried about is like one to four. But I

550
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,440
think if you, if you kind of do that, we

551
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,359
would have a whole lot more clarity because then we

552
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,880
could actually see it was South Carolina deserving or were

553
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,599
they really behind old mess in Alabama.

554
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: But that's the whole point.

555
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,359
Speaker 3: The reason why they're not doing that is they want

556
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:31,960
the cloud of smoke because then they can rely on.

557
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Speaker 1: Marketing. I mean, there was never a power flot like

558
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,640
I career.

559
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm going to argue there's not a.

560
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Speaker 2: To There's literally one. There is one, and I understand

561
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:50,720
that's the that's the lean of this podcast and that's

562
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,240
kind of the whole purpose. M h. But we're standing

563
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:56,640
firm on that. It's not it's not just it's not

564
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,759
just a ruse. That's not just they have actually believe it.

565
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: They have doubt.

566
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,119
Speaker 5: Listen, that other conference that where I'm sitting now, where

567
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:07,079
it's cold and snowy, in the Big Ten.

568
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:09,119
Speaker 4: They have the dollars.

569
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Speaker 5: But outside of two programs, I'll say three, I'm gonna

570
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un organ in there. Outside of the three programs, h

571
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,240
who's actually leveraging that money to like really to.

572
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 4: Really put their notes out there.

573
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Speaker 5: I got Ohio State, I've got Michigan, and I've got Oregon,

574
00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:33,839
and I have Penn State, like crying always like oh

575
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,319
we're not we're not as strong. USC is just trying

576
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:42,599
to find ID right the US. But outside of that,

577
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:44,400
like you looked at like you know, Robin and I

578
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,640
were talking about Illinois was the number five team. If

579
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you're a serious player, can you really tell me you're

580
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,440
the number two conference in the way And I'm and

581
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,279
I'm being serious, it's not just my sec bias, but

582
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:01,960
when I tell you Illinois is your five teams?

583
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Really, hey, Illinois, Well, I mean they have

584
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:13,400
a rich history hasn't been anytime soon, but lately they've

585
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,039
been putting together teams that are decent every in every conference.

586
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,000
There's there's there there. There are two teams you should

587
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
pick out in every conference because I do this every year.

588
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: There's your baseline team, which means they're the team that

589
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920
usually fiddles, finishes middle of the pack.

590
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,599
Speaker 1: Almost year in and year out. They're towards the middle

591
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,119
of the pack. You'll hear a whole lot of hype

592
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,519
about them finishing. You know, hey, this is the this

593
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:40,039
is the year to go to the championship. They're not

594
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,119
gonna go They're always gonna finish in the middle of

595
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:43,880
the pack, and that's kind of what they are as

596
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,000
a program. And then there's your bottom feeder, and every

597
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,400
conference has one. You know, they may not be proud

598
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:51,599
of it.

599
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: And then you know if the bottom feeder somehow gets

600
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up one day and says, hey, we're gonna start beating

601
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,680
people like Vanderbilt, and they start, well, okay, Indiana, Okay,

602
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,799
who's the bottom feeder? Now you know you have to

603
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:06,319
you have to switch these things out.

604
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,279
Speaker 1: So but if you have those, you have when you

605
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:12,039
look at those two programs, you look at who's beating

606
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,079
those programs. If you're not beating those programs, then you

607
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,720
start having to ask yourself, Okay, what do we have here?

608
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: Because either you have intense competition. And I was telling

609
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,200
somebody this in another group chat.

610
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Speaker 1: On on ex champions come from intense competition. If you

611
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:38,640
have intense competition, then that kind of that that weeds

612
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,640
out a lot.

613
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: Of inconsistencies in your play and it kind of course

614
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,519
corrects along the season, which is why you see one

615
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:52,799
conference that has intense competition in it really honestly, they're

616
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,920
battle tested by the time you get to out of

617
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,759
that SEC championship. And then you have other conferences that

618
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:06,000
don't don't necessarily see the different types of formations and

619
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:11,119
plays and skill sets, and you're like, well, they may

620
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,759
be bettle tested, but we don't know. There could be

621
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:18,599
some inconsistencies. And every year you're like, well, Ohio State

622
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,759
has this great roster, but are they battle tested enough

623
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:28,440
to beat Georgia Alabama? You know, are they battle test

624
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:32,480
enough for that? But those are those are kind of

625
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:35,039
a or Michigan. You can say the same with Michigan

626
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,200
or Penn State for that matter.

627
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Speaker 1: But a lot of times you don't see those teams

628
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,039
have the same time because they you know, you know

629
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:44,119
who's in your conference.

630
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Speaker 2: Uh.

631
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Speaker 1: And if your conference has intense competition, then.

632
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Speaker 3: There could be one day where a Vanderbilt wakes up

633
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:58,480
and says, hey, we're gonna win six games. You know there,

634
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,400
we're gonna win eight games, We're gonna win and you

635
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,440
know we're gonna try and win nine games. That happens

636
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,640
from time to time with intense competition, So you have

637
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,079
to even if the bottom feeders can do it, then

638
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:12,440
you know you have intense competition in that conference. If

639
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,039
you never see that happen, then you don't.

640
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,119
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the that's that's the way that I.

641
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: Always look at these these conferences is, well, you know,

642
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:22,360
who's the worst team.

643
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: Have they ever gone to a bowl? Have they been

644
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,280
to a ball game in the last ten years?

645
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: Yep? Ye not.

646
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:32,519
Speaker 1: Then you probably don't have intense competition in your conference.

647
00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: So let's let's look at yesterday and I guess Friday

648
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:41,719
night here for just a minute. So the takeaway for

649
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,320
me was that the biggest point spread going into the

650
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000
weekend ends up being the most competitive game in Clemson

651
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:52,079
and Texas. In my opinion, Yeah, and Texas still covered.

652
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

653
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,519
Speaker 2: Corrected me with this earlier margin and victory was up by

654
00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:59,559
two points on average.

655
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: One from like seven to like nineteen to five something

656
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,400
to give or take.

657
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the average first round games, all twenty first

658
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,360
round games during the four team era was seventeen and change,

659
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,079
and it went up to nineteen and changed yesterday. Yeah.

660
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,840
Before we get into Craig's breakdown receipt of how it

661
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,760
should have been seated versus how it was seated, I

662
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,760
want to go do a couple of questions here. Number one,

663
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,719
let's start with everybody's favorite segment on our show, the

664
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I Was Wrong segment. And I'll kick us off because

665
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:38,400
I went three and one this weekend against spread and

666
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,800
I rode with Tennessee money line, and that was my terrible,

667
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,280
terrible decision.

668
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 4: And I also won three in one simply.

669
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:53,639
Speaker 2: Because simply because I I had questions about Ohio State.

670
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:59,639
Now the question I didn't have. The question I didn't

671
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:03,079
have was the level of talent. And they put it

672
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:08,039
all together and they executed. Will Howard was throwing absolute dimes.

673
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,199
They were attacking, and when they play like that, they

674
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,079
are the best team in the country, because they spent

675
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:20,440
twenty million dollars quote Ross Bjorke to respond and go

676
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:25,360
and go after this season specifically. So they do have

677
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,320
the most talent out of anybody in the country, and

678
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,599
so we should expect them to be that way. We

679
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,920
just haven't seen it in any sort of consistency all year,

680
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,920
and they just lost the Michigan again, and so my

681
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:40,480
thought process was, if Tennessee comes in, I'm going to

682
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:45,679
roll the dice on Nico hitting three twenty plus yard passes.

683
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,079
He did not have time, nor did he have open

684
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:51,800
receivers to hit twenty plus yards down the field, and

685
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,519
they absolutely ran into a bus. Saul So credit credit

686
00:36:56,679 --> 00:37:00,760
to State. I've got mister McMichael, mister Michael.

687
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 5: So from Twitter Bear Bryan's burner, So take it for

688
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,960
what it's worth, Bear Bryan.

689
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: Oh my good.

690
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:14,559
Speaker 5: Nico I am a lava finished the season with nineteen touchdowns.

691
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:20,719
Fifteen of these came against UTEP, Dandy, Mississippi State, North

692
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,400
Carolina State, Oklahoma, Chattanooga.

693
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 4: And Kentucky.

694
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:25,039
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

695
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:31,199
Speaker 5: He had a combined four touchdowns Mamma Uga Florida, Arkansas,

696
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,800
Ohio State, which Tennessee lost three of five.

697
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 4: Why are we sliping this kid?

698
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: And one of them was one of them was overtime Florida,

699
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:43,679
So they almost lost four out of five.

700
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: We had everything, everything about Nico that I wanted to see.

701
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,320
Everything that I needed to see to understand who Nico

702
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,000
was this year was right.

703
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: There in the Arkansas game, yep.

704
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,519
Speaker 3: And because you know Arkansas, uh the there are certain

705
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,719
teams that you know that if they don't have anything else,

706
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,159
they're going to.

707
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,639
Speaker 1: Have a line and Arkansas is one of those teams.

708
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:10,880
And I was like, all right, let's see what happens

709
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,360
when he gets a little pressure. Let's see what happens.

710
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,400
Let's just see what happened. They don't really have great backs,

711
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,280
you know, they've lost a lot of games or anything

712
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,480
like what happens when he doesn't get through his progressions.

713
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:24,679
That's all I wanted to see, because.

714
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: You know, he's a young kid, right, I mean, if now,

715
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:31,000
if he was bow nickxish and could get through his progression,

716
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:34,000
scramble around, not get sacked or whatnot like we saw

717
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:35,559
at Alburn.

718
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:37,159
Speaker 1: Except throw the bad pick at the end of the game.

719
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if he was at least bow Knicks level

720
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:44,000
of talent, then I would have been like, Okay, Tennessee

721
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:44,960
might be able to do it.

722
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't.

723
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: And we saw that against Arkansas and I was like,

724
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,800
all right, they're not winning it.

725
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,599
Speaker 1: Now. I know Georgia exactly well. Because it's easy to

726
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,679
the hardest.

727
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: Thing for a quarterback to do, coming from one level

728
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:05,519
of play to the next, figure out exactly how much

729
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,400
time they have to make a decision. Quarterbacks of decision makers.

730
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:13,559
In high school, you usually have seven seconds. In college

731
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:17,519
that gets down to about four to five, depending on

732
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:18,880
how good your offensive line is.

733
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,639
Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's two and a half. And that's

734
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:22,880
why they have the combine.

735
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,039
Speaker 3: Do they have a release that they can get rid

736
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,199
of the ball, make a decision, get rid of the ball.

737
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: In two and a half.

738
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: That's all the time. You have got two and a

739
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,239
half seconds get rid of the ball. If you can't

740
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,000
do that, you can't play in the NFL because nobody's

741
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,519
going to block you. But you're not gonna have consistent

742
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:38,400
blocking for more than that amount of time.

743
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: So if you can change, and it happens every year,

744
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,280
you get weeded out every year.

745
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: If the kid that's used to having seven to ten

746
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:50,519
seconds to just stand back.

747
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,679
Speaker 1: There and okay, my first progression. Nope, second progression.

748
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,079
Speaker 3: You know, they have two seconds basically on all four

749
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:01,760
of their progressions. If he can change that, you know,

750
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,119
and all of a sudden they only have two, you

751
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,119
can cut them down to two because.

752
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,199
Speaker 1: Now they only have four seconds.

753
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,079
Speaker 3: Then you already know, like a lot of young kids

754
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,199
at a lot of young quarterbacks, they have to and

755
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,840
then they're gonna pull down the ball. If they pull

756
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,360
down the ball, what are they gonna do? Are they

757
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,760
Jane Daniels where Leave him back then? You don't want

758
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,079
him to pull down the ball, you know, Labar Jackson.

759
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,480
Leave him back then, don't let him pull on the volved.

760
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:31,639
Speaker 1: Or are they you know? You know quarterbacks that yeah, man,

761
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,480
if he runs, we got him, you know.

762
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 3: And that's kind of a that's that's what most defensive

763
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,880
coordinators are going to do to a young kid like Nico.

764
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,719
We saw that with Arkansas and I was like, all right, well,

765
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,480
I hate to rain on the parade of the Valls, but.

766
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: He's not there yet. He might be there. You can

767
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,920
hype him up, but you can see some skills. He's

768
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,679
not there yet.

769
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 3: And this year shouldn't have been the year where he

770
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,280
was overhyped because now a lot of the balls are like,

771
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,280
well what happened?

772
00:40:58,599 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Like nothing. You have a.

773
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,119
Speaker 3: Quarterback that's that's trying to get through his progressions. The

774
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,960
game come a little too fast. And if you have

775
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:11,199
Ohio State, you know the Ohio State, Penn State. There

776
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,280
are a lot of teams that.

777
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,159
Speaker 1: Have great defensive ends that are gonna they just kill

778
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,440
somebody if they get a chance.

779
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 5: And that's and that's when Dylan Sampson not too like that.

780
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,639
It was already behind the sticks.

781
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeh.

782
00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: The key to that one we talked about last week

783
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:28,400
was Dylan Sampson as much as what Nico could do.

784
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,119
If Damnson could have a big day, they had a

785
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:32,440
chance real quick.

786
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: You want to talk about you want to talk about

787
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:39,199
really quick. Sure it's nothing to do with the SEC,

788
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,159
but it is wrong, so go for it.

789
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 5: No, listen, like I still don't. I still don't feel

790
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,880
good about Penn State and James Franklin.

791
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: Well sure but no, but you put up give against them,

792
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,559
and that's what do we get. Right.

793
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 5: But but at the end of the day, Kevin Jennings,

794
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,639
maybe his high school team was warding TV. I don't

795
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:04,280
know that Navy is no longer is not in. That's

796
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,519
a used color scheme. And those uniforms look good, but

797
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,039
damn did they look bad. And they just I mean,

798
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:12,920
he was.

799
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: The epitome of moment was too big. And we said

800
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,719
that test saying, I don't want to pile on him,

801
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,679
but I want to kid but oh my goodness, but.

802
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,159
Speaker 5: I want to give a shout out. That was a great,

803
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:28,599
uh little piece. Rht Lashley found him right after the

804
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:32,159
game and gave him like this big hug. And as

805
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:38,679
a coach, there's nothing work all right, Yeah for sure, Yeah, but.

806
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: Sophomore as well.

807
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: And I think Rob was exactly that moment was too big.

808
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,199
And when you start having when you're playing certain see,

809
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,360
you can scheme against certain teams, and you can do

810
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,519
certain things against certain teams, but when all of a sudden, oh,

811
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,880
there's an NFL there's a future NFL pass rusher over

812
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:05,239
there there. We can't scheme against that. That's not he's

813
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,599
he's pushing people out the way. There's no way we're

814
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:09,480
using two people to block him. And then all of

815
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:12,880
a sudden, wait a minute, what's our weaker parts of

816
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,679
our line than to do?

817
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,159
Speaker 1: And there wasn't anything if a defensive coordinator all of

818
00:43:18,199 --> 00:43:20,800
a sudden, that kid only has two places to go,

819
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,639
like I was saying before. So that's what they're that's

820
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:26,320
what they're telling the backs. That's what they're on the

821
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,880
safeties like, there's.

822
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:31,159
Speaker 3: Only two places this ball's going and or he's pulling

823
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:33,480
it down. And if we have a spy on them

824
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,920
the other two places, you know, it's either left or right.

825
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: You know what his tendencies are. And it's really easy

826
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,840
for really good defensive backs to pick that ball off.

827
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,719
And that's what we saw.

828
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: That was that was classic defensive uh, but just basically

829
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,400
playing against.

830
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: The quarterback Memphis.

831
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:54,079
Speaker 5: If you had your show on Monday, what would your

832
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:58,440
message be to the Ashaw Boosters that had to divert

833
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,960
their planes a little further out and didn't get into

834
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,039
didn't get into Happy Valley until it was already twenty one?

835
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,119
Speaker 4: Nothing? Is there any advice you you you would give them?

836
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: Well, got to get there early if you want to

837
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:12,119
if you want to get in the Happy Valley, you

838
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:13,079
gotta get there early.

839
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: But to SMU, I'll be honest, hats off this here's

840
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,199
where I was wrong.

841
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:27,679
Speaker 3: SMU did okay in the American obviously they weren't as

842
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,400
even as good as Memphis in the American honestly, just

843
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,159
tear them up quite quite a bit. But them going

844
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:39,079
into the a C C A a CCA, get those

845
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:43,639
confused acc this year, and even having the opportunity to

846
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:47,519
play the first year in without any money coming to

847
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,719
them or anything like that, just hey, we're going to

848
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,800
the playoffs first year in.

849
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: That worked out for their boosters. That worked out. They

850
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:56,800
got a pay check even though they.

851
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: Weren't gonna get paid, and they made a way, you know,

852
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,320
and and I'll I'll give hats off the rest of

853
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,400
lastly for accomplishing that, because.

854
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,559
Speaker 1: I didn't know that they were going to be that good.

855
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:08,639
Speaker 3: I didn't know that there was actually going to be

856
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:12,559
a legitimate conversation about at the beginning of the year

857
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,000
what I saw with this Miami team, Like there was

858
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:19,039
absolutely no reason why Miami couldn't make it to the

859
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:20,280
chance in a.

860
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: Four game playoff.

861
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: There shouldn't have been any reason for Miami to miss

862
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,239
the playoff this year.

863
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:27,679
Speaker 1: To miss it at twelve is just unexcusable.

864
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 5: There was one reason, though they crystal balls all over

865
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,679
the place.

866
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: Yes, he's the problem, He's not the solution. He's the problem.

867
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:37,119
There are coaches.

868
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:40,639
Speaker 3: One of the things that I've been able to do,

869
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,760
and it's something that I was actually telling a Twitter

870
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:52,800
follower of mine the other day. Most people don't follow

871
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:57,079
the coaches like I do. Certain coaches have tendencies.

872
00:45:57,079 --> 00:46:00,519
Speaker 1: We're all human. We all you know, if where you

873
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:04,079
at ten thirty on a Sunday, I'm probably gonna be

874
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,119
in church. If people know me, I'm probably gonna be

875
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:07,320
in church. That's where I'm gonna be.

876
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,199
Speaker 3: Sunday's seven thirty eleven Sonday, I'm gonna be in church.

877
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,880
If I'm not in church, is he in the hospital,

878
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,400
is he traveling? You know what's going on, But I'm

879
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,239
probably gonna be in church.

880
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,159
Speaker 1: We all have tendencies.

881
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: We all do some of the same things, and it

882
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,440
doesn't really You can change teams, but it's hard to

883
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:23,360
change tendencies.

884
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:25,679
Speaker 1: When I was talking to folks when.

885
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 3: When Brian Kelly came over, you know, down to LSU,

886
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,039
somebody have me on the show and they're like, well,

887
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,719
what do you expect. I was like, well, you have

888
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,239
a baseline of eight games. He's gonna win eight. You

889
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,599
probably won't win more than ten, and you're gonna live

890
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,599
in that eight to ten.

891
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: That's where he lives. That's what he does. And then

892
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,079
people are like, well, yeah, that's after three years they're like, well,

893
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:49,280
that's exactly what he does.

894
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: I was like, do you think I was, you know,

895
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,800
covering him while I was at Northern another day or

896
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,480
at Cincinnati.

897
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:57,159
Speaker 1: I've been in this game for quite a long time.

898
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,280
The coaches do certain things.

899
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,599
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin does certain things, you know, and some of

900
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:06,840
his short I kind of know what the shortcomings are

901
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,599
of all these coaches, especially in big game situations, because

902
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:13,039
those are usually the games I'm watching to evaluate the

903
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:16,440
talent to begin with, is the is the games? I

904
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,039
the stat that you that you read Craig about, you

905
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,239
know what Niko is doing against those teams?

906
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

907
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's there's a you.

908
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,559
Speaker 3: Can with certain schedules, you can pad those stats, you

909
00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:30,920
can make them look really good.

910
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: But what but what when you're.

911
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 3: Up against your biggest competition, the top three teams that

912
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,760
you play that that year, what are you doing against

913
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,239
those games? Because I can tell you my friends, the

914
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,920
NFL scouts, there are those games. Those are the games

915
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,760
they want to That's what you want to see right,

916
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,800
you want to see against top competition, other competition that

917
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,719
could be in the league.

918
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,199
Speaker 1: What do you doing against that? And that's how you

919
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,960
know when somebody I mean, if you're not if you're

920
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,360
not doing it against Arkansas, you're probably not doing it

921
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,559
against Ohio State. Let's be honest. It's just I mean,

922
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,800
we can pad it up.

923
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: We can, we can try and sell it a different way,

924
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:09,480
but not likely if you can't do it against Arkansas,

925
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:13,199
even if you can run you know, a weaker Alabama

926
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,039
team off the table for whatever reason, because that's the

927
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:20,199
second time they've beaten Alabama in the last three years,

928
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,960
I think, but they weren't going to be able to

929
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,800
do it against Ohio State, not this year.

930
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,599
Speaker 1: It's not he's just not ready.

931
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: And to bring this back around to the SEC. That

932
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,760
would be the same reason that I'm not totally convinced

933
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,400
that Texas running game yesterday, although was very impressive, is

934
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,239
as impressive as the stats may show, because Clemson was

935
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,239
like what fourteenth, fifteenth in the ACC and rush rushing

936
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,679
yards allowed this year. So yeah, I mean, what do

937
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,159
we expect. You can only imagine that we're going to

938
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,599
run all over them because Texas has a decent running game,

939
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,360
then I would have been.

940
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,079
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, there's mouth seasons here, because the one thing,

941
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:05,960
the one way that you knew.

942
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,079
Speaker 3: That you could be Clemson was running because you just

943
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:10,360
watched other teams do it that were weaker than you

944
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,199
in that area.

945
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, if he if if he.

946
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,199
Speaker 3: Doesn't do this, then it's always something's up, something's rigged,

947
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:16,679
or whatever.

948
00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:22,119
Speaker 1: But Texas is Texas is good enough this year.

949
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 5: They're good exactly, and that's that Arizona State. Listen, they're

950
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:31,320
gonna wank. They should, they should. I think that game

951
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,760
is going to be close. I think that's gonna be

952
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,320
one of our more exciting games next week.

953
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: It was the truth.

954
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to in order for him to be effective,

955
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,360
he has to get past his line, and that's gonna

956
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,280
be a lot harder.

957
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,559
Speaker 1: For him to do.

958
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:49,039
Speaker 2: They're gonna learn. Yeah.

959
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 4: I think Texas's defense is legit.

960
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 6: Their offense absolutely gonna dare Sam Levitt to do it.

961
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: He's gonna have and and don't forget they're still down

962
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:01,360
on that receiver, right.

963
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.

964
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Longhorns are going to be the long Horns

965
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:12,000
are the Longhorns are good enough this year, and that's

966
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:14,239
kind of when you when you when if Sark didn't

967
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,079
do that, then I was like, Okay, Stark.

968
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,679
Speaker 1: No, I know you're smarter than this. Why aren't you

969
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,960
running against Clemson? Why are you? Because Dapple was probably like,

970
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,320
wait a minute, why wouldn't he run against me? Because

971
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,400
that's how people are beating us this year. So if

972
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:29,679
he did.

973
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: If that didn't happen, then there would have been some mouthfeasts.

974
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,239
I would have I would have called BS like something,

975
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,280
something's going up?

976
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: What was the exchange? Guys? How much? What was the number?

977
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:43,480
But go ahead, go ahead?

978
00:50:43,639 --> 00:50:46,519
Speaker 2: Rob is a high State the most impressive team of

979
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:55,960
the weekend. I mean nothing was close. Who's the most impressive?

980
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:04,679
They're most there, my most impresive team. And actually, actually,

981
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,440
you know what, if I'm going to drill down, I

982
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,639
think Will Howard's my most impressive player. Everybody wants to

983
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:11,039
give Jeremiah Smith all the flowers.

984
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:14,039
Speaker 1: No, Will Howard did a did A did a darn thing.

985
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:17,159
Speaker 2: He but you got to get the ball there. There

986
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:19,760
wasn't that much separation in a lot of those cases.

987
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: He dropped in the No, no, he was he was

988
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:25,039
on from the start, and it also showed you can

989
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:26,119
score points even when.

990
00:51:26,039 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: It's cold outside. It's when we've had this discussion when

991
00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:33,800
when that's the thing that keeps keeps you from throwing

992
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,519
the ball not there and actually not even the rain,

993
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,360
as much as people want to think it is, I.

994
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:45,519
Speaker 1: Want to Actually, I guess it depends on where you

995
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:47,960
have the standards for the programs, Like I have Ohio

996
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:51,440
State as a pretty high stadude, So it wasn't as

997
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:52,760
impressive to me.

998
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 3: Like, like I said, I was talking to my friend,

999
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,280
I was like, man, South Carolina probably would have had

1000
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,400
a wait before the game started. South Carolina would have

1001
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,360
had a way better chance of beating this Ohio State

1002
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,719
team than this BASS team.

1003
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: Does that to be Like, I'm looking at the matchup and.

1004
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: I'm looking at how things match up, and I'm like,

1005
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,480
Nico's not Niko's not going to be able to win

1006
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:15,920
this game.

1007
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,599
Speaker 2: To you have two red shirt freshman quarterbacks, and I

1008
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,280
think it became clear this year that the one that

1009
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,199
got got no preseason hype is actually better of the two.

1010
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, but I would say, honestly, Franklin

1011
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,119
surprised me a little bit because he was ready for

1012
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:36,199
this game. And what do we know about Franklin. He

1013
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,199
usually blows games like this, usually blows these big games,

1014
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:41,679
and he was actually ready for.

1015
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:43,519
Speaker 2: His design got you covered against Bois State.

1016
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,599
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm I'm if there was a team that I

1017
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:58,199
thought would blow the game that played better than I thought, if.

1018
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: I was wrong against at any of these these predictions,

1019
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,719
it would have been Fenn State. I didn't think Fenn

1020
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,679
State would would run away with the game like that.

1021
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,119
Speaker 3: I mean, there wasn't anything that during the season that

1022
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:12,400
would have told me that Pens they're actually gonna have a.

1023
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: Game plan, uh, you know, to have a double digit win.

1024
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:22,079
Speaker 4: So Jennings Jennings two pick six gifts. I don't you know.

1025
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 2: Either of you. Has either of your prediction for the

1026
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,880
National Championship winner changed after this weekend. I'll start, I'll

1027
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,760
start min Mine has changed, and it is simply because

1028
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,159
mine was Georgia and we now have Carson Bak developments.

1029
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,039
And as much as I do believe in Gunner Stockton,

1030
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,559
I don't know if it's gonna be enough time to

1031
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:43,079
get him ready for a National championship run. And it

1032
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:44,559
may just be leaning on the rest of the team.

1033
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 5: But I see I think I think he is. But

1034
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:51,639
the element he's gonna bring he's got, He's got a

1035
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:53,800
nice arm, but the ability.

1036
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,519
Speaker 2: Was My question is what happens when they run him

1037
00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:58,679
and he gets knocked out because they're going to run

1038
00:53:58,679 --> 00:53:59,360
the heck out of him.

1039
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: That's a good question.

1040
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: If he gets hurt, are we gonna get freaking Rashata

1041
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,480
in a quarterfinal or a semi final game? Is that

1042
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,360
what's gonna happen? You gotta get from the hand with

1043
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,039
a dead arm.

1044
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 5: So so Beck is not even with the program right now.

1045
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:21,960
Beca Beck has been gone. And I actually saw that

1046
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:24,480
it was not even Rashata that would have came in

1047
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:27,760
for that SEC championship. It would have been freshman from

1048
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:33,719
Avon Farms, Ryan Police, you know, was the kid who

1049
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,480
Georgia fans loved last year because he stayed committed to

1050
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:40,960
Georgia even when Royola flirted with them for about three

1051
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,760
months or whatever. I personally don't think will ever see

1052
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,000
the field think he's gonna be your career backup. You've

1053
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,280
got Rashata, You've got Stockton. You've also got a really

1054
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,480
good kid coming in from Finley, Ohio this year. Five

1055
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:57,599
star has torny CEO, So I do think what that

1056
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,480
does Stockton's gonna give you another element to do that

1057
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:05,920
because and then the other part with it.

1058
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,039
Speaker 4: Is the big question.

1059
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,599
Speaker 5: If Georgia comes to play, I think what they're going

1060
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:14,719
to do. They're gonna load the box and they're gonna stop.

1061
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,320
Notre Dame is run and they're going to force let

1062
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:18,840
to beat them. And I don't believe.

1063
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about We'll get to that next something,

1064
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:22,639
but I'm not worried about Notre Dame. I'm thinking big

1065
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,760
all the way down the road though I don't know

1066
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,079
that they have, but they're gonna have enough juice.

1067
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,199
Speaker 1: I think they have enough juice to get there. Now,

1068
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,360
if you're asking me, who doesn't change who I think

1069
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:33,920
will win?

1070
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I think, like, yeah, if you have to,

1071
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:40,679
if you have to pin one right now, who's winning

1072
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:43,000
the whole thing out of I have.

1073
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: To say the team that's that's undefeated Oregon. But you know,

1074
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,639
if that's that's a that's a change just because.

1075
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,599
Speaker 1: Of the quarterback situation with Georgia, because I think it's

1076
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:56,880
Georgia and Oregon. I mean, that's if you're asking me

1077
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,719
who I think is going to be there is Georgia

1078
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,119
and Oregon.

1079
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 5: And because I'm I'm gonna turn I'm gonna turn your

1080
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,559
logic on you. Okay, no I I and I know

1081
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,840
Landing is twelve and h mm hmm. But what has

1082
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:15,320
history shown us the last two years? He gambles and loses.

1083
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,039
Speaker 1: He's a gambler game.

1084
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:25,159
Speaker 2: However, Ryan, what has Ryan Day's tendency shown us? Because

1085
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:27,519
now those two are going to hit each other and

1086
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:31,800
this and this matchup because that they're going to do it.

1087
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:35,559
Speaker 5: Listen, I'm not going to be shocked if Ohio State,

1088
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:40,599
if Oregon win the national championship again. I I just

1089
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:46,239
feel that like Lanning has that gambler and it's that

1090
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:52,159
he gambles sometimes again and when it works.

1091
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 4: It's great.

1092
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,559
Speaker 5: Listen, when it works is great, It's fantastic.

1093
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 4: But I could see completely.

1094
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:01,599
Speaker 3: I completely agree Craig. I mean, if there's one thing,

1095
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:04,599
there's gonna be a critical moment during that Ohio State

1096
00:57:04,679 --> 00:57:07,719
game where he made the decision in the first As

1097
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,400
a matter of fact, everybody listening to this, go back

1098
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,480
and watch the first game.

1099
00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: Find it. Whatever you need to do, go back and

1100
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,079
watch the first game.

1101
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:17,519
Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that there's gonna be a critical

1102
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:21,119
moment in the game similar to the one that Landing

1103
00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:23,119
was in in the first game. He's gonna make a

1104
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:25,599
different decision, and that decision is going to decide the

1105
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:27,199
outcome of the game, because that's.

1106
00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Who he is, that's who he is a person.

1107
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: And whether or not that was a better decision then

1108
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:34,280
the one he made during the game, because there are a.

1109
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Couple of decisions. I'll scratch my hand, like, what did

1110
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,440
you do that for? Because he can do that.

1111
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: It's possible for him to improve, but it's also possible

1112
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,920
for him to just toss it all away.

1113
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: And we've seen it. We've watched it, watched it against

1114
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,079
you know, Washington, I watched it against other teams. You

1115
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:52,119
know that that he's played. That's that's just who he

1116
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:53,960
is as a person, and just watch.

1117
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it though. That's the beauty of

1118
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,360
it though, is that we theoretically, in this matchup, get

1119
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,079
a true clash of Titans in this year's version of

1120
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:07,320
college football, ye where it should be really competitive, and

1121
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,679
we're gonna get something compelling like one of those one

1122
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:12,760
of those decisions, whether it's a switch for the positive

1123
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:15,440
or head scratcher. Either way, I think I think that's beautiful.

1124
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,559
I think that's exactly what we're looking for.

1125
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:21,119
Speaker 3: The thing I'll say about about this matchup, which I

1126
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,480
think might be the thing that I cannot put my

1127
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:28,840
finger on because I know Ryan Day's gonna do.

1128
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what Chip Kelly's gonna do. And I

1129
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,559
don't know how Chip Kelly's gonna approach this game because

1130
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:42,480
he's kind of wet. You know beforehand he's gonna be aggressive,

1131
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,960
but he's very I mean, he knows the rose ball

1132
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:45,719
better than anybody.

1133
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1134
00:58:48,159 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: Who's Tony picking in that one?

1135
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,719
Speaker 1: I didn't ask him. I don't know.

1136
00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:55,679
Speaker 5: You know, you know he's not picking a while Jeff Kelly,

1137
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,000
we know well, I mean there's there's.

1138
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a tag mode for Chip Kelly.

1139
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:09,519
Speaker 1: I think, well, he knows the road. He knows things

1140
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:10,400
about the Rose Bowl.

1141
00:59:10,599 --> 00:59:14,199
Speaker 3: I can tell you that particular stadium that other people don't.

1142
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,400
You know, blind spots, Hey, where's the you know, where

1143
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:19,960
where the lights hit so that the defensive guy when

1144
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,719
he looks up, he gets blinded and my guy can

1145
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,440
catch it. He knows that he knows it that well. Uh,

1146
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:26,880
And I'm sure his time at U, C, L A,

1147
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,639
and p that was.

1148
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:31,599
Speaker 1: His home field. I mean, he's gonna he's gonna definitely

1149
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,400
come out to some fanfare.

1150
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:37,239
Speaker 3: He's gonna come out to some booze as well, but

1151
00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:43,239
he's I expect him to really turn it on, especially

1152
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,400
in the second half when he figures out what Landing's

1153
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,119
doing that game.

1154
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:49,239
Speaker 2: If I'm if I'm watching, if I'm Chip Kelly, I'm

1155
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:51,719
going I'm looking at the Big Ten Championship game, because

1156
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,920
how in the world Penn State scores that many points

1157
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,800
against an Oregon team. It's it's questionable to me. Drew

1158
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,119
Alert does no, I think, to impress me whatsoever. He

1159
01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:06,719
had some amazing uh Houdini moments in the backfield, escaping

1160
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,000
tackles against SMU, and then he just just I don't

1161
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,719
even know, throws it in the dirt, airmails it over

1162
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,840
the bench and he's just throwing like squat swing passes

1163
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:17,960
to his outlet guy.

1164
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: Yep.

1165
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,719
Speaker 2: It's very confusing.

1166
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,559
Speaker 3: That's sometimes we're gonna see the game plan. I think

1167
01:00:26,679 --> 01:00:28,639
is gonna be a little bit different because I don't

1168
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:34,480
think Landing's one of those guys that he tries to

1169
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:37,519
be deceptive in the first half. And that's why I said,

1170
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:40,039
if Chim Kelly figures out what he's doing, then in

1171
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:42,079
the second half, it might be he might be a

1172
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:42,639
blood path.

1173
01:00:43,159 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: But he tries to be deceptive. He tries to disguis,

1174
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,960
especially his defenses.

1175
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: He tries to disguise what he's doing in the first

1176
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,159
half so that you don't know you know where his

1177
01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:54,320
blitzes are coming from.

1178
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,119
Speaker 1: One of the one of the best games that I

1179
01:00:57,239 --> 01:01:00,559
watched is he caught He got Dion flat footed. I

1180
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:04,400
mean that that Colorado game where he just murdered that.

1181
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:08,559
Oh my god, it was I was like, oh, look

1182
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,360
at this, this beautiful fire blitz.

1183
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,119
Speaker 3: Being a Steelers fan and and zone blitzing, I love

1184
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:15,199
zone blitzing at all the different schemes. He had this

1185
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,440
fire blitz that I was like, Oh god, this is

1186
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:19,480
he somebody's schador might get hurt.

1187
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:22,519
Speaker 1: Pull your kid, dude, pull your kid from because he's

1188
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:23,119
gonna get hurt.

1189
01:01:23,519 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 3: It's but yeah, he has these he has he disguised

1190
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,639
the defenses, uh, in the first half, and you don't

1191
01:01:31,679 --> 01:01:34,719
know where those blitzes are coming from. But they get

1192
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,679
kind of repetitive throughout the game because there's only a

1193
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:39,639
certain amount of combinations you have, right, so if you

1194
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,000
see them in the first half, then you'll likely see

1195
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:42,719
him in the second half.

1196
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:43,239
Speaker 2: Is just win.

1197
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 3: And like I said, if chick Kelly figures out when

1198
01:01:47,559 --> 01:01:50,039
there's some big holes, if you know where the blitz

1199
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:52,920
is coming from, right, So that and and that's why

1200
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,000
I said it might be murdered in the second half

1201
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,960
if chick Kelly figures out what he's doing and when,

1202
01:01:58,639 --> 01:02:00,880
because he flips that old we're in the second half.

1203
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:02,159
Speaker 1: Ohio State.

1204
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,039
Speaker 3: We know what talent Ohio State has. It's just whether

1205
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:06,280
or not Will is going to be able to get

1206
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,679
the ball out in enough time to the right receiver.

1207
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,800
And if you if he if Chip Kelly knows where

1208
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,679
it's coming and lets Will know beforehand in his pre snap,

1209
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:18,960
that game might get ugly.

1210
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,679
Speaker 1: But if it doesn't, then I think if Oregon.

1211
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: Gets past Ohio State again, I think they have a

1212
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,920
really good chance at beating Texas and a decent chance

1213
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:36,719
with a lamed up quarterback at Georgia and at actually

1214
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,559
beating Georgia. If it wasn't a situation with the quarterback,

1215
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:44,519
I think Georgia wins another championship. I mean it was

1216
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:46,800
who else is beating Georgia in this in this conference,

1217
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,480
I mean in this matchup that Georgia matches up better

1218
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:50,960
with everybody else.

1219
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,079
Speaker 5: If they don't James Franklin wins the national championship, we

1220
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:57,000
all justire.

1221
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: But hey, I mean I just retired from my show.

1222
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:02,039
Speaker 3: I mean my have to retired completely if James, like

1223
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:04,599
I said, James Franklin winning that game actually showed me

1224
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:07,920
something that he can win in some of the he.

1225
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:08,679
Speaker 1: Can put together.

1226
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:09,559
Speaker 4: I'm so biased.

1227
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:12,039
Speaker 5: I see it like like, I like, I agree with you,

1228
01:03:12,159 --> 01:03:13,760
but I am just too proud to admit that.

1229
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,079
Speaker 4: Look, I can own my bias.

1230
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 5: At least I can own my bias.

1231
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:21,159
Speaker 2: Hey, Craig, before we close up, do you want to

1232
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:23,800
take us to really quick? What would happen if we

1233
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,159
did not have the auto buys, if we just did

1234
01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:29,599
auto bids for the and we just seated it straight through,

1235
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,280
what would the matchups have looked like? Let's let's just

1236
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,719
compare compare really quick.

1237
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we would have had maybe some more

1238
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,320
competitive games. I don't think we would have had the

1239
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:43,480
nineteen points going going off the final college football playoff

1240
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:47,599
ranking Oregon, Georgia, Texas, Penn State would have had your buys.

1241
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:50,639
Speaker 4: Your five to twelve.

1242
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,119
Speaker 5: Matchup would have been a Notre Dame against Clemson at Southound.

1243
01:03:54,159 --> 01:03:56,239
I think I think that's that's a more interesting game.

1244
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:58,119
Speaker 1: That's a more is a more interesting.

1245
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,079
Speaker 4: Game Friday night.

1246
01:03:59,159 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 5: I think that's a tenth that that's a ten million number.

1247
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,679
Your Ohio State, your six to eleven matchup would be

1248
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,320
Ohio State Arizona State to the same result.

1249
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 4: It might be the same result, but I.

1250
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,559
Speaker 5: Think with the way Arizona State is kind of playing,

1251
01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:16,480
dealing had playing, I think I think it has the

1252
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:19,519
potential to be interesting. Plus you also might get a

1253
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:22,400
coin flip from Jake the Snake Plumber coming back from

1254
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,639
like the nineteen ninety nine Rose Bowl or something like that.

1255
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,719
Speaker 2: I think that you're doing that, you're doing You're setting

1256
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:27,199
it up the same.

1257
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,639
Speaker 4: Doesn't that one Memphis?

1258
01:04:28,679 --> 01:04:30,159
Speaker 5: He was still a baby, You're still.

1259
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: In Move on, I know who ja Plumber is. Keep going.

1260
01:04:38,119 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 5: Josh Heipel and Nico would have gotten a home game

1261
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,119
against s m U.

1262
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: They would have been they would have beat s U.

1263
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,840
They would have beat SU. That would have been a

1264
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,000
bad matchup for s m U.

1265
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:53,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that would have been a bad matchup.

1266
01:04:55,159 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: As they all are in this.

1267
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the the four million viewer marker would have.

1268
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,519
Speaker 5: Been the new big new game would have been Indiana

1269
01:05:05,639 --> 01:05:07,559
against Boise State in Bloomington.

1270
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: I would have really liked that. I wouldn't really like that.

1271
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:11,719
That's that.

1272
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 5: That is like FS one all over to me, doesn't it?

1273
01:05:14,119 --> 01:05:16,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it would have given somebody a chance that

1274
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:17,880
shouldn't otherwise have one.

1275
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:24,079
Speaker 1: Craig Signetti he uh would he have been able to stop.

1276
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 2: D Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know.

1277
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:33,599
Speaker 1: Boise State might have actually won that game. I don't

1278
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:35,920
know if they would have been able because it's harder

1279
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,000
to people forget that Boise State played Oregon pretty tough.

1280
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:42,039
Speaker 4: I mean they only Yep, there's a three point game.

1281
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: I believe it is a three point game, and you

1282
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,360
know it is a is a higher scoring three point

1283
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,800
game at that so you know it was one of

1284
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,920
those situations like, Okay, if if or if if Boise

1285
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:58,199
State's offensive line can fire off against Oregon State's D

1286
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,719
line like this, this might get this might get interesting.

1287
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,039
Speaker 3: I don't know if Indiana would be able to stop

1288
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,480
I'm I'm thinking that maybe not.

1289
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:13,599
Speaker 5: Well, here here's the most intriguing part about those games.

1290
01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:16,880
Let's just say we follow through to like what that

1291
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:18,039
next game would have looked like.

1292
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1293
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,639
Speaker 5: Oregon would have been playing Notre Dame. That's a spicy matchup.

1294
01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

1295
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:31,239
Speaker 5: Georgia would be playing the Ohio State University. We've seen

1296
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,679
that that one. That that one's always good. Texas would

1297
01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:39,079
be playing Tennessee for the rights for the europe Real youtubet,

1298
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,280
and then Penn State would have been playing the Boise State,

1299
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:44,039
Indiana winner.

1300
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:51,079
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, I like it does.

1301
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:54,079
Speaker 1: Does James Franklin follow in that one because.

1302
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: He has to buy yes?

1303
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:58,559
Speaker 5: You already know my answer, do you know?

1304
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:02,679
Speaker 3: I just because, like I said, if there was in

1305
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,000
the segment where I was wrong and Jane Franklin didn't fall,

1306
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:07,280
what is it?

1307
01:07:07,679 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: What's a Penn State team?

1308
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:09,639
Speaker 2: This?

1309
01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:13,039
Speaker 3: Can Penn State actually get? Penn State might blow this

1310
01:07:13,079 --> 01:07:16,599
whole thing up. And if it does, maybe Rob I

1311
01:07:16,679 --> 01:07:18,440
might take you up on retirement. I know my wife

1312
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,920
wants me to retire, so I might take you up

1313
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,239
on that. Because if if Penn State, if James Franklin

1314
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,519
figures out how in a twelve game playoff never get

1315
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:29,760
into this playoff before, in.

1316
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:30,679
Speaker 1: A twelve game playoff.

1317
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:32,559
Speaker 3: If he figures out here even how to get to

1318
01:07:32,679 --> 01:07:36,679
a championship game, I think that we have to reconsider

1319
01:07:37,519 --> 01:07:39,920
what James Franklin is. I mean, I know he has

1320
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,400
you know, a dual carter, which is a monster, and

1321
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:46,599
I know there's a I mean, there's a lot of

1322
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,320
NFL teams fawning over that guy. But if he can,

1323
01:07:50,719 --> 01:07:53,760
if he can really get there this year, Penn State

1324
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,719
might the Big the Big Ten, the Big Ten will

1325
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,119
do really well if Penn State in Oregon get pretty far,

1326
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,239
because that would mean that you're introducing two other legitimate

1327
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,960
players in that conference that that you have to now

1328
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:11,639
truthfully watch out about.

1329
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know whatever happened to Wisconsin.

1330
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,199
Speaker 3: Wisconsin was always on the because they were like they

1331
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:18,520
were like twelve and one every year and missing missing

1332
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,359
the the playoff because they lost to Ohio State or something.

1333
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,159
Speaker 5: How did how did so so like so real quick,

1334
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:28,680
real quickly answer that question on that. I actually turned

1335
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,199
off the Notre Dame game or I'm sorry, the Penn

1336
01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:33,319
State game, and I actually put on the North Dakota

1337
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,399
State South Dakota State game, which was fantastic so, yeah,

1338
01:08:37,159 --> 01:08:42,960
how did Wisconsin and Barry Alvarez my coaching pipeline? Because

1339
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:48,520
to me, like, if you wanted to upgrade the Wisconsin

1340
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,000
running game, you look at what North Dakota State does.

1341
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,720
They still are running it.

1342
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,039
Speaker 2: They didn't want to do that. They want changed the

1343
01:08:56,079 --> 01:08:57,079
whole system, right, but.

1344
01:08:57,119 --> 01:09:01,039
Speaker 5: It's not a traditional eye, but it comes at you

1345
01:09:01,159 --> 01:09:03,800
in a different way. It's a lot of shifts, it's

1346
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,720
a lot of motion. But they're running down hill. You

1347
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,600
have climbing at Kansas State, you know, and and it's

1348
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,319
like it's plug and play with that system.

1349
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: And today they brought in Sam Houston, brand new Sam

1350
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,239
Houston State or sorry, it's not state anymore, right, it's

1351
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:26,199
just Sam Houston head coach Phil Longo to run the

1352
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:28,640
Wisconsin offense. Are you kidding me?

1353
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:32,079
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're don't I don't even know.

1354
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 2: He decided to sling it.

1355
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,279
Speaker 1: Stayed at Cincinnati there, Jesus just sayd Cincinnati. There's no

1356
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,680
Cincinnati suffering in fickle suffering. I'm like, guys, what were

1357
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:43,079
you doing?

1358
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,359
Speaker 2: You know what what.

1359
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:50,079
Speaker 3: Faust Gardener to your team? And now you're just gonna

1360
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:52,039
leave up up and leave and go to Wisconsin.

1361
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:53,560
Speaker 1: Why what do you think about?

1362
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: Why?

1363
01:09:54,079 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: Why do you think your stuff's gonna work in Wisconsin?

1364
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:58,319
You take the team to the Big twelve. We could

1365
01:09:58,359 --> 01:10:00,960
be talking about Cincinnati. What was the Big twelve? We

1366
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,479
saw the Big twelve. We could talk about Cincinnati being

1367
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,119
in the conference for sure.

1368
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 2: Very competitive in that I don't know what he shot

1369
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,520
his entire career anyway, So we talk about conferences. Here's

1370
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,760
my thing. And as we close, as we close today,

1371
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,039
the big narrative yesterday that I heard over and over

1372
01:10:17,039 --> 01:10:20,159
and over again was so and so doesn't belong, SMU

1373
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:25,119
doesn't belong, Indiana doesn't belong, Tennessee doesn't belong, and so

1374
01:10:25,279 --> 01:10:29,479
and so Alabama or Miss Miami South Carolina would have

1375
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,359
won this game, would have made this more competitive. We

1376
01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:33,920
would have been a more compelling matchup. And then that

1377
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:38,680
conversation spirals down into the conference debate. This conference is trash,

1378
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:44,920
this conference is great. And since we love hypotheticals, we do.

1379
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,359
We love hypotheticals. I want to play a little game

1380
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,439
called final four. So if you've ever had a site,

1381
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,399
if you ever done one of these psychology things where

1382
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,079
it's just word recognition, I'm going to read you the

1383
01:10:56,199 --> 01:10:58,520
name of four teams, and I want you both to

1384
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,039
as quickly as possible, tell me which of those fourteenth

1385
01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:03,000
is the best in twenty twenty four?

1386
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: Perfect?

1387
01:11:04,359 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: Do it? Ready? Ready? So? Okay, West Virginia, Rutgers, Boston College, Missouri.

1388
01:11:13,319 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 5: Rogers, Boston College, TCU, Iowa, Georgia, tech A and M Iowa.

1389
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,319
Speaker 2: Read those again, TCU Iowa, Georgia, tech A and M.

1390
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,359
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. Yes, Texas A and M.

1391
01:11:34,399 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 4: Then he likes the dancing, that's why he said that.

1392
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:43,199
Speaker 6: Okay, USC, Cincinnati, n C State, Arkansas, and it wasn't

1393
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:46,560
paying attention. She has to read those again, USC, Cincinnati,

1394
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,000
n C State, Arkansas, Dave.

1395
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 4: Doran, because you're guaranteed nine wins.

1396
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:54,399
Speaker 3: Not this year?

1397
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:55,199
Speaker 2: What do they get?

1398
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:02,159
Speaker 1: They like they pretty terrible this year. The list was, Man,

1399
01:12:02,359 --> 01:12:04,760
that's a that's that that was that's a terrible list.

1400
01:12:05,319 --> 01:12:08,239
Speaker 2: I'll go again, USC, Cincinnati and C State Arkansas.

1401
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta say Arkansas, but I can't really.

1402
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,319
I mean, it's it's it's it's a. I think Arkansas

1403
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:17,920
could be any of the teams listed, but then just

1404
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,479
to be like the best team.

1405
01:12:21,079 --> 01:12:27,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Craig, did you pick one yeah, I pick Dave

1406
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:28,399
Dorn and then cy State.

1407
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:34,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, okay, almost they almost lost the Catamounts.

1408
01:12:34,359 --> 01:12:38,399
Speaker 2: I'm not no, no, they did. They absolutely did. They No,

1409
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,279
they didn't lose, but you're right. It was one score game.

1410
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,640
They were losing until the end concepts saved them. All right, Uh,

1411
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:48,039
we'll still a couple more. I'm having fun. Stanford, Oklahoma State, Northwestern,

1412
01:12:48,119 --> 01:12:54,039
Mississippi Staten.

1413
01:12:52,079 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: What are you doing to us? Brom stop this.

1414
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna turn it. I'm gonna turn it.

1415
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,439
I'm about to turn it. I'm about to turn it.

1416
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,359
This is the less the last one stand for Oklahoma State, Northwestern,

1417
01:13:01,399 --> 01:13:02,800
Mississipi State State.

1418
01:13:03,079 --> 01:13:08,399
Speaker 5: Listen Oklahoma State because they will be picked like twelve

1419
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,720
to sixteen the Big Twelve next year, and they'll they'll

1420
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,920
be in the Big Twelve championship because that's what Gandhi does.

1421
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm talking about this year though, Craig. If you match

1422
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:24,000
up the teams from this year Stanford, Oklahoma State, Northwestern,

1423
01:13:24,039 --> 01:13:26,079
Mississippi State, I mean I gotta.

1424
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 3: Say Northwestern because they're just some edious losses by these

1425
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,239
other teams. The Northwestern was just Northwestern this year.

1426
01:13:34,399 --> 01:13:36,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, Norwest.

1427
01:13:36,279 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's play Virginia Tech, Minnesota, Kansas State, Ole,

1428
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:53,960
miss ooh oh miss though, okay, Shock, Iowa State, Miami, Indiana, Tennessee.

1429
01:13:57,399 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 5: Tennessee, Miami, South Carolina with cam Ward? Are we saying

1430
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,479
with cam Ward?

1431
01:14:09,159 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? With cam Ye here miamim question.

1432
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: This is a twenty twenty four question.

1433
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,119
Speaker 1: He said, twenty twenty four. And I'm like, no, Miami.

1434
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:22,560
If Tennessee played Miami, that would have been a quarterback duel.

1435
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,159
And I think Cam Woard would have you know how

1436
01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:25,800
to pull that out.

1437
01:14:26,399 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: So South Carolina, Baylor, Louisville, Illinois.

1438
01:14:32,279 --> 01:14:35,279
Speaker 4: Oh, South Carolina and so Baylor.

1439
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:42,319
Speaker 5: Just to poke my teammate, Okay, that's.

1440
01:14:42,399 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely garbage. All right. I got two more, two more,

1441
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:51,800
two more U B y U s m U, Penn State, Texas, Texas,

1442
01:14:52,880 --> 01:15:00,560
all right, last one Arizona State, Georgia, Oregon, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia.

1443
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,960
Every one of these combinations that I gave you was

1444
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:07,039
where the team's finished in the power in their conference.

1445
01:15:07,079 --> 01:15:10,920
In the power for so for example, South Carolina, Baylor, Louisville,

1446
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,640
Illinois all finished fifth in their in their conference. Just

1447
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,439
a little bit of a test to see, look at

1448
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,359
Craig smirking because he didn't like my last game, so

1449
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:20,760
I think he may have liked this one better.

1450
01:15:21,079 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 5: No, I see, listen, I like this game because it

1451
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,039
wasn't like what what does my random ask bold have

1452
01:15:26,119 --> 01:15:29,760
to do with anything? Oh no, not like that game.

1453
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: That was a really good game, bro.

1454
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:38,399
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting to see maybe how few SEC

1455
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:44,079
teams were chosen, because and I think which ones were

1456
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:46,720
chosen right exactly. And I think a little bit of

1457
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,680
what I was trying to do was actually remove the bias,

1458
01:15:49,119 --> 01:15:51,680
because we didn't say you didn't know ahead of time

1459
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,359
that I was stating the conferences up like this, and

1460
01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:56,880
I didn't really give you enough time to think or

1461
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,279
to crack the code in that way. And so if

1462
01:16:00,279 --> 01:16:03,039
there was built in biases, just name recognition of one

1463
01:16:03,079 --> 01:16:05,399
conference over another or one team over another.

1464
01:16:06,079 --> 01:16:06,239
Speaker 1: Right.

1465
01:16:07,159 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: But but yeah, I mean, like you look at the

1466
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,880
at the Arkansas, USC Cincinnati, NC State, they all finished eleven, Yeah,

1467
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:19,800
and their conference that's disgusting, Like how do you how

1468
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,119
do you how do you pick one?

1469
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 1: It's disgusting. And I'm just well, I was just.

1470
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:33,039
Speaker 2: Gonna say, like Nebraska, Utah, Virginia and Oklahoma all finished thirteen.

1471
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,960
That one's tough as well. Utah was not good this year.

1472
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,119
I mean by name recognition, that's what I'm going with.

1473
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:44,119
But if this year, if we're going to exactly they're

1474
01:16:44,399 --> 01:16:46,600
they're thirteenth in the conference. But if you're gonna, if

1475
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,520
you're gonna, if you're gonna match them up, going back

1476
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,760
to this the idea that that you're going to cross

1477
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,239
conference schedule and you're gonna match them up based on

1478
01:16:54,279 --> 01:16:57,359
where they finished the previous year. This would be the matchups.

1479
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: And this this is what we want to see. I mean,

1480
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,000
this is honestly. See there's a lot of people that

1481
01:17:03,159 --> 01:17:07,720
chant SEC SEC but with fair no better and any

1482
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,920
of these other conferences. Honestly, they're not winning any of

1483
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,640
these conferences. They think they can because they play in

1484
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,000
the SEC. But the CAMP the thing, the matchups that

1485
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:18,119
you really want to see are those matchups. That's what

1486
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:20,439
they do in the NFL. Right one play once, two

1487
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,800
plays two, three, play three, you know, and those are

1488
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,520
the matchups that we really want to see as voters.

1489
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,920
That's the matchups for games. That's what you want to see.

1490
01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 3: Well, you finished here, you know, can you beat any

1491
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,119
other conference? Team that also finish here. Those would be

1492
01:17:36,199 --> 01:17:38,640
great games that that I would love to see. If

1493
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,199
they're going to have like these challenges like they do

1494
01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:43,840
in basketball, that's how I think they should do them.

1495
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 4: So can we see we're actually getting components for the SEC.

1496
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 2: The only one that I think we're actually gonna get

1497
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,600
is South Carolina Illinois, but it's finished fifth according to

1498
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,520
this is ESPN, So if you go, if you go

1499
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,439
to the SEC website, it rearranges the order a little

1500
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,159
bit because they don't take into account the full year.

1501
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:09,560
They just look at the conference schedule. Yeah, but I'll

1502
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,199
take those matchups based on what ESPN says, and so

1503
01:18:14,119 --> 01:18:16,279
South Illinois would get in a bowl game, So you

1504
01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:19,319
should get from what I'm understanding most of those most

1505
01:18:19,359 --> 01:18:22,840
of the team is going to play on both sides.

1506
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,119
You got you got Ole Miss playing up a spot.

1507
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,359
Ole Miss finished surprisingly eight below A and M and

1508
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,920
L s U if you if you shake it out

1509
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,159
based on how the schedules and the tie breakers fall,

1510
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:37,960
which is just insane. And Duke finished seventh to the

1511
01:18:38,039 --> 01:18:42,520
A C C. Yeah, yeah, it's it's Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Alabama,

1512
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,520
South Carolina, A and M l s u ole miss

1513
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,920
Missouri to get through the top nine, So I guess

1514
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,520
I went one spot over the top half.

1515
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,239
Speaker 5: But yeah, you had to mention Missouri because everyone you

1516
01:18:53,319 --> 01:18:55,840
always have to mention Missouri, Sorry Brett, but.

1517
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:04,119
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, because they're just they're just a ranked but they.

1518
01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 3: Are, No, They're they're gonna be It's gonna be interesting

1519
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,279
to see what coach Drink can do with Missouri over

1520
01:19:10,279 --> 01:19:12,439
these next few years, because.

1521
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:15,359
Speaker 5: Question, I think the key for him, he's getting the

1522
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,359
number one guys in the state. It's keeping those guys

1523
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:20,119
after your one.

1524
01:19:21,079 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 7: He's had a good portal class too, but he just

1525
01:19:25,079 --> 01:19:29,399
got the tribula however you say it back up from

1526
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,319
Penn State just committed to that's a quarterback next year.

1527
01:19:33,159 --> 01:19:35,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be interesting.

1528
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, very.

1529
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: Drinks another one of those guys.

1530
01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: Greg says he's circling the drain for a listeners who

1531
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:45,399
can't see us.

1532
01:19:48,119 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean I I I think Drink is honestly, since

1533
01:19:53,079 --> 01:19:56,199
since uh, you know, James Franklin left for greener past

1534
01:19:56,279 --> 01:19:58,800
years and Penn State, I think Drink is kind of

1535
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,920
like the new James Franklin. I don't know what he's

1536
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:07,000
gonna do like he's taking a team that historically at

1537
01:20:07,079 --> 01:20:11,399
least is played in in SEC championship. Right, So we

1538
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,960
know that Missouri can get there, it's just what can

1539
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,079
Missouri put together to actually do that consistently?

1540
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 2: And I would argue they can't get there now. They

1541
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,520
got there because of because of the divisions and how

1542
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:31,359
we just happened to fall. Okay, and with no divisions, there's.

1543
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:36,079
Speaker 5: No Okay, I think he punches up but where I think,

1544
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,920
but but but I think again, I've said this a

1545
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,279
couple of times. If I'm Auburn and I'm Florida and

1546
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:45,319
we're still.

1547
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,159
Speaker 2: If I'm Florida, I'm grabbing him. I think it's perfectly.

1548
01:20:48,359 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 5: I think I think he fits because that's those are

1549
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,520
both step ups from Missouri in terms of talent probably,

1550
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,239
and I they're also a little bit more of a

1551
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:00,920
destination than what Missouri is.

1552
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,359
Speaker 2: Missouri is not an SEC school. Nobody in the sc

1553
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,600
likes them. Nobody's rival, but nobody likes them.

1554
01:21:08,119 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, someone's another Columbia came in, I think.

1555
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: And twelve absolutely, And I was still from my guy

1556
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,680
Jay C. Sherbert again when I say the only time

1557
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,880
Florida has been successful in the history of their football

1558
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,840
program is when they have some type of little bit different,

1559
01:21:27,119 --> 01:21:32,079
explosive offensive coach. We look at Spurrier, we look at Meyer.

1560
01:21:33,159 --> 01:21:36,640
Who else has done anything in the history of their

1561
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,079
whole in their entire program.

1562
01:21:38,159 --> 01:21:40,239
Speaker 5: Come on, have you seen what Billy Napier has done.

1563
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,960
He did so well against the hired the offensive version version.

1564
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,319
Speaker 2: It was they literally hired the offensive version of Will

1565
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:54,720
must champ personality and all. And it's just a slow

1566
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,800
Sluggage run first. That's not who Florida is meant to be.

1567
01:21:59,079 --> 01:22:00,520
It's highline, fun and gun.

1568
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,159
Speaker 5: That game was horrible on Friday or but I know

1569
01:22:04,279 --> 01:22:08,720
what I know. It looked crooked at the end. I'm

1570
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,600
still saying when they.

1571
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 2: Asked the talent gap, it was a talent gap in

1572
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,359
the end is but it was That's why it looked crooked.

1573
01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:17,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, because two Lange's quarterback was in Durham and it.

1574
01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: Wasn't exactly exactly. And I think Florida, I think, just

1575
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:28,960
like Florida struggles, they still start talent. He's not he's

1576
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,960
not out recruiting what Dan Ollen did, which is incredibly ironic.

1577
01:22:32,079 --> 01:22:38,399
Speaker 5: But mm hm, Miami like ways Christmas Docking.

1578
01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:44,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who are they going. I don't think you

1579
01:22:44,039 --> 01:22:51,760
didn't already go with somebody and they can't contact him. Yeah, okay, okay,

1580
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,720
all right, I think that's about time to wrap it up.

1581
01:22:56,079 --> 01:22:58,119
It's time for the last word, gentlemen. As we got

1582
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:00,159
out of here, we started with Merry Christmas. Let's and

1583
01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:03,920
in the same way, give me your favorite Christmas tradition,

1584
01:23:05,359 --> 01:23:05,760
but you go.

1585
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:16,159
Speaker 1: First, oh favorite Christmas tradition. It's usually my family actually

1586
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,319
doing something in the.

1587
01:23:18,359 --> 01:23:24,039
Speaker 3: Community to help others that are a little less fortunate

1588
01:23:24,119 --> 01:23:26,359
than we are, and that changes from year to year.

1589
01:23:27,399 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's helping out with the food drive.

1590
01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:35,279
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a toy drive, but it's something every year

1591
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,800
to help out with those and just the spirit of giving,

1592
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:41,359
the spirit of charity.

1593
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: That's what we usually do.

1594
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,520
Speaker 5: Love that, Craig Mine was tonight before I came on

1595
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,720
the podcast. We always go see Christmas lights. We've been

1596
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,760
doing that with my little one since she was a

1597
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,600
little baby. And there's a spot there's a concert over

1598
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,720
here and they call it the Magic of Lights or

1599
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,439
something like that. You drive through it is probably a

1600
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,119
little bit overpriced. There's something special about driving through there.

1601
01:24:07,159 --> 01:24:10,680
Because we even told her like this, is special because

1602
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,279
it's something that we've always done with you, and so

1603
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,800
so I'm going to see the lights and talking through

1604
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,479
and seeing how the things change over you.

1605
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,399
Speaker 2: I'll go to I think growing up for me, it

1606
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:29,159
was it was hot dogs, hot dogs dinner on my

1607
01:24:29,319 --> 01:24:32,880
mom's side because my grandmother made the best chili, or

1608
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,159
makes the best chili I make. I can make the

1609
01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:41,920
chili now, but I think maybe maybe the hot dogs,

1610
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:47,279
getting everybody together quoting Christmas vacation, uh and having having

1611
01:24:47,359 --> 01:24:50,640
some laughs. But but but I'll say now with with

1612
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:54,520
kids on my own, I think making the Christmas cookies

1613
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,039
from scratch for Santa on Christmas Eve has become a

1614
01:24:58,119 --> 01:25:00,760
fun one. I don't really participate much other than to

1615
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,960
say cook picks of my wife and daughter as they're

1616
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,479
making them together. But you know, I'll roll a couple up,

1617
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,640
but just kind of sitting in that moment and observing

1618
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,640
it's pretty cool too. Yeah, all right, thanks thanks again

1619
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,279
to my guy Memphis Spence. Go check them out and

1620
01:25:17,399 --> 01:25:19,479
the new venture that's coming up. We're gonna see you

1621
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,000
on screen mm h.

1622
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: And by the way, guys Diehard, it's not a Christmas movie,

1623
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:26,359
all right, I'm gonna go.

1624
01:25:27,359 --> 01:25:29,279
Speaker 2: Time to get out of here. Shout out again to

1625
01:25:29,319 --> 01:25:32,800
Memphis Spence. I am Rob Williams, he is craignant, Michael

1626
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,520
at Rob Williams up at McMichael seven and it just

1627
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:41,479
means more football and coffee always. We'll see you next time.