Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of the Poker
Speaker 1: Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name is
Speaker 1: Tim Duckworth. Big, big, Big PLO episode. That's pretty much
Speaker 1: all we're going to be talking about today on the show.
Speaker 1: We got PGT PLO series coming up. We got Super
Speaker 1: High rollerble PLO, we got the PLO roundup down in Texas.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just plo plo plo. It's everywhere. It
Speaker 1: really is beautiful. Some would say the great game. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Joey Ingram, who I think you saw yesterday.
Speaker 1: What was that for?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Just the Joey Ingram sign.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Joey listens, and if he does,
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna yell on me.
Speaker 1: But well, he puts you on his Instagram story and
Speaker 1: called you the commission.
Speaker 2: So but he always, like I see him at these
Speaker 2: CPT events. I walk past him like five times and
Speaker 2: he says like the same thing every time, like, haw's
Speaker 2: a going commission. I'm like, it's going, Like.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like when I say to you, like, what's.
Speaker 2: Up, like five times in like ninety minutes.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, you know he's just checking in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine. Maybe I'm just a bit withered when
Speaker 2: it comes to the CPT events. I don't know, you
Speaker 2: know what can I look, I'm one more event. Okay,
Speaker 2: these CPT events that have been sponsored by Jing, which
Speaker 2: is a really like fancy sushi place in Vegas. I've
Speaker 2: heard it's excellent. What I've tried for free isn't by you.
Speaker 2: I don't know, No, I thought it was on the strip,
Speaker 2: no idea. It's sensational. Yesterday, you know, my wife goes,
Speaker 2: do you want to think? What do you want for?
Speaker 2: Do you want anything for dinner? And I go, no,
Speaker 2: I'm going to the studio. They have Jing tonight. I
Speaker 2: was looking forward to a little bit of sushi. I
Speaker 2: get there. No, Jing, They're just like ruined my evel.
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Speaker 2: Okay, ruin my evening.
Speaker 1: That's how you say, by you, budd, I mean you
Speaker 1: can just you know, you can take the white.
Speaker 2: I kind of forging. That's where That's what I'm kind of.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to pull up the menu.
Speaker 1: I am right now. I mean there's no prices, so.
Speaker 2: Well, that shows how expensive it is. When there's no prices,
Speaker 2: that means expensive.
Speaker 1: I don't think it I probably don't think it's that bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably pricier than like, you know, the
Speaker 1: places where we go to two ship. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: it's not going to break the bank. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's all right.
Speaker 2: Might not break yells, but it might break mine.
Speaker 1: Definitely gonna break mine. This episode of the Poker Girl
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Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: P l O baby, I mean the PGT might as
Speaker 1: well the PLO GT. I mean it's NonStop.
Speaker 2: We have the next one six.
Speaker 1: Weeks, seven weeks something like that.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So first off we have the PGT PLO series, then
Speaker 1: we have Super high Rollable PLO. Then we have the
Speaker 1: Texas PLO roundup. Those are for the series. Sprinkled in
Speaker 1: there are two events on the NAPT Las Vegas schedule
Speaker 1: that are no holding that do count for the PGT,
Speaker 1: but the for the foreseeable future, it is all pot
Speaker 1: limit Omaha dominating the month of October for sure. On
Speaker 1: the PGT. First up, we have this PGT PLO Series
Speaker 1: two presented by PLO Mastermind. And the reason that it's
Speaker 1: PLO Series two is because we already had one earlier
Speaker 1: in the year. This time around nine tournaments, all of
Speaker 1: them are PGT qualifying. I personally feel like it's a
Speaker 1: much better schedule flow this time around, where we have
Speaker 1: the PLO Series first and then that leads into the
Speaker 1: super high Rollable PLO. For you, sir, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about the schedule that you've put together? Is it
Speaker 1: different than last time? Has anything changed? Like, look, run
Speaker 1: me through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've definitely made some changes. The biggest one we
Speaker 2: did was we removed the cap on the re entries
Speaker 2: excluding the main event. So in series past, the bounties
Speaker 2: unlimited entries, the other events all had two re entries,
Speaker 2: so you could be in for three bullets total. This
Speaker 2: year it's gone. These guys are coming into Vegas from
Speaker 2: Finland and Europe and Brazil, wherever they're coming from. They
Speaker 2: want to gamble, they want to play, so we remove
Speaker 2: the cap off the re entries. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: going to affect anything too much. You know, if you're
Speaker 2: in for three, you want to gamble that last one.
Speaker 2: Now you can. You know, we see a very heavy
Speaker 2: you're in for all of them, or you're in for
Speaker 2: just one kind of way at the studio. So that's
Speaker 2: probably the biggest change religive to the whole schedule. But
Speaker 2: I do, like you mentioned, I like this flow a
Speaker 2: little better. You know, we have three to five k's
Speaker 2: to open. We bring in the tens, then the fifteen
Speaker 2: and the main event, and we conclude with a five
Speaker 2: K boundary. I love it. I love the schedule. It's
Speaker 2: you know, one event shorter than last time. It's all
Speaker 2: plo high. We've done some you know, we've experimented in
Speaker 2: the past. We've had we've had a high low. Last
Speaker 2: year we did the concluding event. Sorry not last year
Speaker 2: in March. We closed with a five thousand buy in
Speaker 2: Dealer's Choice, so that included double board and included high
Speaker 2: Low included High. Wasn't that good, didn't get a great turnout,
Speaker 2: So we said, you know what, We're just we're sticking
Speaker 2: to a nose. We know what works PLO high only
Speaker 2: that's what this series is. Come gamble, come dejenet up,
Speaker 2: Come make some prop bets and win a lot of money.
Speaker 1: This is the only series that I would ever suggest
Speaker 1: this for, so I'm going to suggest it. Okay, you
Speaker 1: should get a special trophy made for the player that
Speaker 1: fires the most entries.
Speaker 2: We could just send it to Finland because every time.
Speaker 1: I mean, but it would just be funny for you
Speaker 1: to like walk out, like during the last day and
Speaker 1: like present this to the person who had the most.
Speaker 2: It should be like a wheelbarrow of cash, like a
Speaker 2: like a little bronze wheelbarrow or something.
Speaker 1: No, it should be maybe like like I mean, well,
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell because you don't necessarily know how
Speaker 1: they're doing. They might fire fifty bullets and actually win money.
Speaker 1: If not, you could just have like a pile of
Speaker 1: money that's lit on fire. That would be cool. Or
Speaker 1: you could just have a pile of money and then
Speaker 1: like you could light it out, you know, they let
Speaker 1: like maybe a Jing the restaurant that you love so much.
Speaker 1: Maybe they bring out like some sort of flaming dish,
Speaker 1: you know, like you can have this flaming pile of
Speaker 1: money you can walk out with it. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if that would be some sort of fire hazard a studio,
Speaker 1: but I think we can. They bring out cakes that
Speaker 1: are lit by the candles and stuff come.
Speaker 2: On sandal soared paper on fire.
Speaker 1: It's not paper, It's like you would have it be metal,
Speaker 1: but you would put like, you know, gasoline on it
Speaker 1: or something and just light that part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that would be fun. All I can
Speaker 2: think of is the the Batman picture of the joke
Speaker 2: heat Leisure's joker standing in front of that cash that
Speaker 2: he lit on fire. Maybe we can turn that into
Speaker 2: some painted artwork or something. But the one last thing before,
Speaker 2: you know, I just want to add to this for
Speaker 2: the first time. You know, we're not We're putting Aria
Speaker 2: is putting a five seat guarantee. I'm both the satellites
Speaker 2: running on October twelfth and thirteenth. It's a five hundred
Speaker 2: sixty dollars buying. You can win entry into the one
Speaker 2: of the first three events. Five seat guarantee. Make sure
Speaker 2: you get down to Aria. They kick off a one
Speaker 2: pm from the poker room. Yeah, big ups the Aria
Speaker 2: for putting the five seat guarantee on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's very cool. To be honest, it might
Speaker 1: entice me to come down there and fire one of
Speaker 1: those satellites. I mean, I'm not really a PLO guy, but.
Speaker 2: You might think there's some overlay, some value there.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I just you know, it just kind
Speaker 1: of it sets an expectation. There's a floor there, right,
Speaker 1: so I know that, you know, even it's just just
Speaker 1: you know, you don't you don't know when there's no guarantee.
Speaker 1: With a guarantee, you know, you know it's going to
Speaker 1: be that that that baseline of what you're getting at. So,
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see how it goes. Maybe if
Speaker 1: I kick this sore throat, I'll be down there putting
Speaker 1: my five sixty in. What's your expectation for the turnout?
Speaker 1: Have you been talking to these guys you mentioned, those
Speaker 1: guys from Finland. I mean they always come over with
Speaker 1: a group, they make a golf trip out of it,
Speaker 1: the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm always going to expect those ones
Speaker 2: I know obviously two of them recently had kids, so
Speaker 2: that throws a little wrinkle. I don't know why you
Speaker 2: can't come for nine days, but whatever. PIOLO is a
Speaker 2: hot one to predict because we every series we see
Speaker 2: people we don't expect, you know, whether it's high role
Speaker 2: of players that we've never seen in the studio. We
Speaker 2: just see a bunch of randoms that come out from
Speaker 2: nowhere and win the whole thing, like Daniel Jing did
Speaker 2: in PGTPLO Series two of Lost You. So I'm always
Speaker 2: bullish on PLO. It seems to be the game that's
Speaker 2: kind of really taking off of us as you know,
Speaker 2: mixed games or anything else. Honestly, you just want everyone
Speaker 2: to come down and we can hit some you know,
Speaker 2: can we break one of the records we've set in
Speaker 2: previous PGTPLO Series two.
Speaker 1: Questions One is on like, you know, who do you
Speaker 1: expect to be there? Somebody that I see on the
Speaker 1: PGT leaderboard, Ellie Nakash, Would you expect him to come
Speaker 1: because he's the one who probably not on our radar
Speaker 1: before the World Series of Poker. Yeah, and he goes
Speaker 1: to the World Series of Poker as so many players
Speaker 1: do like you just have a breakout time in poker
Speaker 1: at the World Series because it's so big, everyone's kind
Speaker 1: of shot taking there, all that sort of stuff. He
Speaker 1: won the ten k POO for over one point three
Speaker 1: million dollars. He cashed in the twenty five k PLO,
Speaker 1: so he's sitting currently in twenty fourth on the PGT leaderboard.
Speaker 1: And yes, that is within the top forty. So yes,
Speaker 1: it does currently qualify him for the million dollar free roll.
Speaker 2: No it doesn't, okay, but.
Speaker 1: He needs to finish in the top forty and get
Speaker 1: his third cash. You'll let me finish their buddy.
Speaker 2: Sorry, my bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah cash? Does you need three? So is he someone
Speaker 1: who like is this on his radar? He comes out
Speaker 1: like he's from France, it says, so you know, it
Speaker 1: could be a long trip. Who knows.
Speaker 2: That's the problem. We obviously have WSP Europe going right now.
Speaker 2: I don't have a contact for him, so he's not
Speaker 2: in the email list or anything, so it's hard for
Speaker 2: me to make him aware unless he's not aware himself.
Speaker 2: And obviously, if he's in Europe, he's probably playing the
Speaker 2: PLO events at King's Casino with some of the other.
Speaker 1: Have you put this, uh this beef to bed with
Speaker 1: Sean Deep because he's in Europe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could tell him to tell Ellie he
Speaker 1: could be your guy. Are you guys still beefing?
Speaker 2: He's still dead to He's still dead to me. You know,
Speaker 2: he's he's gotten fat again. So I don't really worry
Speaker 2: about him. But I am confident that if Ellie is
Speaker 2: playing PLO events at King's Casino or playing cash games,
Speaker 2: I would bet that you know Yam, Peter Yutman, Richard Greicho,
Speaker 2: Yoni Elias, all these guys are there playing and it
Speaker 2: would come up, where are you going next? Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: going to Vegas for the PLO series. PLO series? What's that?
Speaker 2: And then it kind of goes that way. So I
Speaker 2: would hope to see him there in that same boat
Speaker 2: that you've mentioned. Another guy just outside the top forty
Speaker 2: and needing two cashes, Joshua Adkins. He is aware because
Speaker 2: I spoke to him at Aria when he played one
Speaker 2: of the Aria high Rollers during the summer. I said, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, congrats one, I think you finished second. Congrats
Speaker 2: on second. I actually covered your best bet when on
Speaker 2: the WPT a few years ago. But hey, by the
Speaker 2: way you were, I think he was like twentieth at
Speaker 2: the time. You're twentieth on the leader board, have a
Speaker 2: big PLO series coming up, blah blah blah, and I
Speaker 2: kind of filled him in on all the details of that,
Speaker 2: so I hope we see him there. Same with another
Speaker 2: PLO winner. I think he won the twenty five K
Speaker 2: David Eldridge sitting forty fifth on the lead of board.
Speaker 2: He's obviously played in nas studio before for other No
Speaker 2: Limit Hold the events as well, so you know it's
Speaker 2: promoting this series is tough and we kind of do
Speaker 2: our best to get it out there. But yeah, for
Speaker 2: some of these non for the people not aware of
Speaker 2: the studio or have never played in there, it is
Speaker 2: it is a little tougher to make sure they're aware
Speaker 2: of the series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Atkins did finish second that ten kpolo behind Nikash
Speaker 1: and Eldridge did win the twenty five kp O high Roller.
Speaker 1: He'd bet Brian rast In heads up play more than
Speaker 1: two point two million dollars for David Eldridge there. My
Speaker 1: other question to you is do you think it would
Speaker 1: have been better to do the Texas PLO Roundup first,
Speaker 1: then do Plo series, then do Super High Roll. Well,
Speaker 1: the thinking is that you get some like lower buy
Speaker 1: in players who might you know, play into the thirty
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars main event that we'll talk about as
Speaker 1: part of that roundup series, hit a big score and
Speaker 1: they'd be like, Okay, I'm going to Vegas type of thing,
Speaker 1: you know, shout out Mike mcdee from Rounders.
Speaker 2: That was actually the original plan. The original plan was
Speaker 2: to have it. Well what happened, well, we had worked
Speaker 2: with our partner and they didn't feel like they had
Speaker 2: enough time to promote it and hit the guarantee. Plus
Speaker 2: they already had a fall series scheduled, so it's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a conflict. You know. If we could
Speaker 2: have started planning this at the start of the year,
Speaker 2: it definitely would have fallen before we could have synced
Speaker 2: up everything, promotion of the series on their streams, et cetera,
Speaker 2: maybe work on some satellite packages to get people coming
Speaker 2: to Vegas. But yeah, it was the original plan didn't
Speaker 2: work out, but it's something we definitely want to kind
Speaker 2: of really look to do next year is make sure this,
Speaker 2: you know, the Texas Roundup if it happens again falls
Speaker 2: before the PLO series.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned how these these turnouts are always really good,
Speaker 1: and they are for the PLO stuff. The first ever
Speaker 1: PGTPLO series holds the record for largest owned and our
Speaker 1: rated PGT event had two hundred entries in that opening
Speaker 1: five K event. The twenty five K finale that's always
Speaker 1: part of these series always draws very well eighty three,
Speaker 1: seventy five and seventy two entries for the three that
Speaker 1: have been held so far, so pretty safe to say
Speaker 1: it'll be right around the same this time around. You
Speaker 1: have great points opportunities for Stephen Chidwick, Sammy Sippola, Ronald Kaiser,
Speaker 1: Alex Foxen, Tyler Brown, Bryce Jockey, samso Overall and Sean Troja.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I mentioned that group of players
Speaker 1: is because they are outside of the top forty currently
Speaker 1: but within the top seventy five, so within striking distance
Speaker 1: of getting into the top forty. Siple, I believe is
Speaker 1: one of the two that just had a baby, so questionable.
Speaker 1: I guess if he's going to come out. And then Chidwick,
Speaker 1: I mean he missed Poker Masters. I think he's you know,
Speaker 1: currently moving, so you know who knows if he's going
Speaker 1: to come, so we'll see, but I would expect all
Speaker 1: the other guys to be there for sure. They usually are,
Speaker 1: so yeah, and then it's also a great spot for
Speaker 1: the leader on the PGT leader board, Jeremy Osmas. You know,
Speaker 1: he's obviously extremely well versed when it comes to pot
Speaker 1: limit omaha, and he's going to have a bunch of
Speaker 1: events here that he's going to be playing. He's also
Speaker 1: playing the Super High Rollable PLO for sure. He has
Speaker 1: action listed on poker Stick. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: still available, might have sold out recently, but Daniel Legron,
Speaker 1: you did a ad action. He added two bullets, Josh,
Speaker 1: so did josh Ari. So that's that's very cool. If
Speaker 1: you guys want to sweat that, you can head over
Speaker 1: to poker stick dot com and just navigate to that
Speaker 1: event and pick up some action there. But yeah, Jeremy
Speaker 1: Osmas currently leads the PGT leader ward two thousand, three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty nine points twenty one cash is just
Speaker 1: under five point four million dollars in winnings, but no
Speaker 1: wins yet. I'm going to say he gets his first
Speaker 1: win in the PLO series. That's what I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's due for hey, he's in enough, second, third,
Speaker 1: fourth place finishes like you know he's gonna get one.
Speaker 2: Of course he's due. But i mean, come on, let's
Speaker 2: precedence being set doesn't know how to close.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny. This is kind of like that
Speaker 1: stretch of time that at Negron you went through for
Speaker 1: so long, where you know, Doug Polk's out there making
Speaker 1: videos and saying like he's losing all this money. He's
Speaker 1: losing all this money. Where's the Jeremy Osmas losing all
Speaker 1: this money video? Wow? Because Jeremie Alisma's is crushing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's crushing.
Speaker 1: Maybe he likes Jami Osmas more.
Speaker 2: It's probably that too.
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Speaker 1: into the Super High Roller Bowl PLO. Is it still
Speaker 1: the biggest buy and PLO event in the world. It's
Speaker 1: not tied Tide, but it's that still means it's number one,
Speaker 1: t Dash one, okay, Tide, Sure, I mean it's side.
Speaker 2: I mean I was. I'm just trying to look up
Speaker 2: the rake of the of the WSP one because that
Speaker 2: kind of matters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think there's a Triton one.
Speaker 2: Is it China WSP Well, I.
Speaker 1: Think there's there might be one in Paradise, But then
Speaker 1: I also think that there's there was a Triton one
Speaker 1: that already happened. But then I think there's one coming
Speaker 1: up at Paradises.
Speaker 2: And it's the same rakes the same So Tide, we'll
Speaker 2: keep it with Tide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, whatever quickly. The the PGT PLO series is
Speaker 1: October fourteenth through twenty second through twenty second, and then
Speaker 1: there's a day off which is actually going to be
Speaker 1: a satellite day NK satellite for the one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars buying Super High Rollable PLO and then Super High
Speaker 1: Rollable PEO three days October twenty fourth through twenty sixth
Speaker 1: All three days are going to be streamed. Last year
Speaker 1: had thirty eight entries. Jared Blessnick won it for just
Speaker 1: under one point three million dollars. It was a pretty
Speaker 1: wild ride if you took the If you took the
Speaker 1: Blesnick show, you know, he's opening packs of cards, He's
Speaker 1: just being full on Blessnick the whole time he was on.
Speaker 1: He goes on to win the tournament.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty incredible. Final table took I don't know,
Speaker 1: felt like thirty hours, felt like day. Yeah forever. So
Speaker 1: thirty eight entries last year more or less this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's your expectation turnout wise? You have a
Speaker 1: better finger on the pulse here than I do for
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously we had some issues last year with the timing.
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned earlier in the episode, it was before
Speaker 2: the PLO series, so that actually hurts it. We had
Speaker 2: several players say I'm not playing it. I'll play the
Speaker 2: plot series, but you know, I'm not going to just
Speaker 2: be minus one hundred thousand or two hundred thousand to
Speaker 2: start the PLO series. So first of all, that change
Speaker 2: should be positive. Second change we made was day two entry.
Speaker 2: That should also now give up players options that are
Speaker 2: traveling that maybe skip the PGTPLO series to come, you know,
Speaker 2: on day two register with. I believe it is a
Speaker 2: lot of big mines. That's all that matters. That should
Speaker 2: help the problem is if you've only got one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to play one PLO event for the year
Speaker 2: and you have to choose between ours or the one
Speaker 2: in Paradise, if you're going to Paradise, I feel like
Speaker 2: people are going to lean to WSP Paradise, So that
Speaker 2: actually may hurt us a little bit, or that may
Speaker 2: hurt the re entries. You know, someone's in for one bullet,
Speaker 2: they're like, you know what, I'll save one hundred k
Speaker 2: for Paradise. So I think that will hurt. But I'm
Speaker 2: hoping we can beat the thirty eight entrance we had
Speaker 2: last ye. Don't care about how many. I just hope
Speaker 2: we beat it.
Speaker 1: I think we will beat it. I think we'll be
Speaker 1: into the forties. I don't know about how much, but
Speaker 1: I think we'll beat it. I'm not so sure that
Speaker 1: how much it applies, you know, picking between this and
Speaker 1: the Paradise one. I mean, I feel like if you
Speaker 1: have the money, you have the money. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you have the money for one, you have the money
Speaker 1: for both. Is kind of my my opinion there, you know,
Speaker 1: like who's who's kind of taking their shot, you know,
Speaker 1: and yeah, if not.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess the downside is if you have a
Speaker 2: bad PGTPLO series, maybe you skip this one and hold
Speaker 2: it for the Bahamas where you maybe expect a few
Speaker 2: more few more fish, few more whales compared to what
Speaker 2: we have.
Speaker 1: So how many did the satellite get last year?
Speaker 2: We gave way two seats exactly, so twenty.
Speaker 1: I think the satellite will do better this year given
Speaker 1: the timing. Hopefully went off that PLO series and they're
Speaker 1: like okay, like I'll just you know, maybe I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to play it, but it's only ten K to
Speaker 1: play the satellite and then I'll go from there.
Speaker 2: Type of thing. We just need to run better in
Speaker 2: these some of these satellites. Because last year Lou Gaza
Speaker 2: and China Reim won a seat, China Reem was unlikely
Speaker 2: to play, so that was good, but Lou Gaza was
Speaker 2: slammed down playing every day of the week, so we
Speaker 2: don't really want Lou winning the seat. We want, you know,
Speaker 2: some guy taking a real shot to win the seat,
Speaker 2: so that it just builds on that field, like any variants,
Speaker 2: any satellite variants.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, of course, I mean China reing Uh.
Speaker 1: He ended up turning that satetleite and went into a
Speaker 1: seventh place finish in the event Top seven cash again.
Speaker 1: Blezsnik won it for just under one point three million.
Speaker 1: He beat Isaac Hackson, Stephen Chidwick got third, Isaac Kempton
Speaker 1: and feels like we haven't seen that guy much recently
Speaker 1: for PLO, So is is he going to be back
Speaker 1: out for PLO?
Speaker 2: That's his game, one hundred percent. He'll play every event
Speaker 2: for Max Bullets.
Speaker 1: Aaron Katz, you know, don't often see Aaron Katz in
Speaker 1: any form of tournament anywhere other than maybe like the
Speaker 1: fifty k PPC that it is ACE, maybe a few
Speaker 1: OTHERBSITP events, and then we were able to get him
Speaker 1: out for this one, so maybe he'll return. He took fifth,
Speaker 1: Frank Cravello got six, and then China reim as I
Speaker 1: mentioned got seventh, so I mean, I think it'll be
Speaker 1: good again. I think we'll get over the thirty eight
Speaker 1: last year. You know, it's a tough field, but I
Speaker 1: think it's you know, one of those ones where you're
Speaker 1: gonna build off the momentum coming from the PGTPLO series.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you have some people who hit some
Speaker 1: big scores throughout that series, maybe in the twenty five
Speaker 1: K finale whatever, they parlay it into the hundred K
Speaker 1: and we go from there. So I'll say forty three,
Speaker 1: that's my number.
Speaker 2: Fourteen, I love it. I just hold for thirty nine.
Speaker 1: I mean last year was even with thirty eight. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't sound massive. You know, I always
Speaker 1: gotta got to keep it relative here, you know, because
Speaker 1: we are talking about the PGT and the numbers are
Speaker 1: you know, they trend a little bit smaller than some
Speaker 1: of the big field tournaments around the world, and you
Speaker 1: know that's that's just what we're dealing with. But still,
Speaker 1: you know, very good turnout overall. I did think that
Speaker 1: it was going to be much bigger last year, but
Speaker 1: ultimately I think the timing did not work in favor
Speaker 1: of that happening. So this year. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a bit better. Yeah, well, we'll see how it goes,
Speaker 1: you know. I would expect, also, you know, all the
Speaker 1: big guys to come out for the Hunter K. You know,
Speaker 1: the Isaac Axs and the Jared Blesnicks. We mentioned negran
Speaker 1: neu osmas Aria. I expect Sean Winter in there. I
Speaker 1: expect Alex Foxon in there. I expect Sam's overall in there.
Speaker 1: Who else we got? Does Jim Collaby play the Hunter K?
Speaker 2: Probably not, but you'll probably find him in a satellite,
Speaker 2: so he's running good maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously all the finish guys you know, of course,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it'll be good. It'll be a
Speaker 1: good turnout. I'm looking for the Texas Plo roundup PGT
Speaker 1: is heading back there to the lone Star State champions Club.
Speaker 1: Baby you love it? How many stakes?
Speaker 2: At least four? I mean, look at least stakes are
Speaker 2: healthy compared to some of the other stuff I normally,
Speaker 2: but they have a really good salmon, so I try
Speaker 2: and alternate steak and salmon.
Speaker 1: Steak and salmon sounds like sounds like a good Uh, it's.
Speaker 2: A good eating place. I mean, if you like your food,
Speaker 2: come down to Champions Club. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: It's a full PLO series is headlined by the thirty
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars buying million dollars guaranteed main event. I
Speaker 1: don't know that there's been a PLO guaranteed this large ever,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I just maybe I haven't heard it,
Speaker 1: have you?
Speaker 2: Like we looked, we couldn't find anything. Doesn't mean it
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. Maybe it doesn't. It's not on hand in mom,
Speaker 2: but we couldn't really find anything that rivals this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I mean Champions Club is swinging big with this.
Speaker 1: The buying's you know, nice and big. Nine total events
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars up to fifty one hundred dollars. Not
Speaker 1: all of the events as part of the nine on
Speaker 1: the series count for the PGT, but the thirty three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars main event counts. And then there are three
Speaker 1: fifty one hundred dollars buy in high rollers. All those
Speaker 1: events count for the PGT. So there's gonna be plenty
Speaker 1: of big names I would expect, and also you know,
Speaker 1: plenty of new faces. Everything I've seen and everything I've
Speaker 1: heard out of not only Champions Club but Texas in general,
Speaker 1: as it pertains to potlom and Omaha is it's like
Speaker 1: the freaking wild wild West down there. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: can imagine I could you. You would not surprise me
Speaker 1: if you told me that this main event had a
Speaker 1: four million dollar prize. I would not be surprised. The
Speaker 1: way that these guys play po Yeah, I'm not surprised
Speaker 1: at all. Like I think the guarantee is a safe guarantee,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it you know, you could probably
Speaker 1: even make the arguments on the low end.
Speaker 2: I think it's on the low end. But the fact
Speaker 2: it's never been done before anywhere, at least with the
Speaker 2: no limit hold on one. When we said a two
Speaker 2: million guarantee, we had previous events where with the same
Speaker 2: buying or similar buyings in the region, So we had data.
Speaker 2: This is this is called fresh. We got nothing on this.
Speaker 2: We're just kind of guessing. So it could have it
Speaker 2: could have thirty plays in the field, or it could
Speaker 2: have three thousand plays in the field. We have no idea.
Speaker 1: I think I would have sprung for one point five
Speaker 1: million to start. I think that would have been a
Speaker 1: little bit you know, more robust. But but I understand
Speaker 1: the argument of like you kind of don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen, but yeah, it'll probably end I would
Speaker 1: say around two million. I don't know. I mean it
Speaker 1: just you know, it goes down to the marketing and
Speaker 1: to the satellites to what's happening. There's there's a ton
Speaker 1: of starting flights. You know, people are going to be
Speaker 1: in there blasting and again if if anything that I've
Speaker 1: seen in the past coming out of Texas, coming out
Speaker 1: of Champions Colby and they have you know, they have
Speaker 1: streams that are PLO, Like these guys are just all in,
Speaker 1: all in, all in like it's just it's insane. So
Speaker 1: I can only imagine people are going to be in
Speaker 1: for like twelve bolts in this fricking thing. So it's wild.
Speaker 1: I mean when when we went there for the Texas
Speaker 1: pok are open, you know, a lot of the PGT
Speaker 1: regulars came back and were like it's just different there.
Speaker 1: Like these guys are firing in, you know, bullet after
Speaker 1: bullet with like second pair, like it doesn't matter. So
Speaker 1: I can only imagine that you're going to get that
Speaker 1: times six for PLO just because of how crazy it is.
Speaker 1: You know, these people love to gamble, so so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll say the prize school comes in around two million.
Speaker 1: If you're a if you're a PLO enthusiasts, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at someone like our good friend mon Nouara
Speaker 1: for example, who you know you might not come out
Speaker 1: to play the PGT PLO series just due to the
Speaker 1: the higher level of competition. I would certainly say get
Speaker 1: down to Champions Club and try and get into this
Speaker 1: main event because I think it's you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be that good. There are plenty of
Speaker 1: opportunities to play with multiple starting fights. There's a bunch
Speaker 1: of other events on the schedule as well. Champions Club
Speaker 1: is a great place to play. Has that hotel right
Speaker 1: attached to the property? Do you know of any players coming? Going?
Speaker 2: Going?
Speaker 1: Is he coming?
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think he's coming. Two players.
Speaker 2: One of our close friends, Arthur Morris, said he's coming.
Speaker 2: He's firing hard. Is he coming for the coming for
Speaker 2: some of it? He has a family thing that he's
Speaker 2: taken care of so well. He said he's going to
Speaker 2: come down, hopefully play one hundred K, but definitely playing
Speaker 2: the hat. Yeah, he better bring the hat. That's the
Speaker 2: lucky hat. But I'll tell you who is coming, mister
Speaker 2: w s P himself.
Speaker 1: Phil Hellmuth. You just said he wasn't coming.
Speaker 2: No, the main event champion has two Yeah he has,
Speaker 2: maybe he's allowed to. He's got two cash's remember he
Speaker 2: needs one more. He is very aware that he needs
Speaker 2: one more. He was upset that we killed the Bounty series.
Speaker 2: But obviously he's I don't think he lives in Houston,
Speaker 2: but I think he's close.
Speaker 1: I think he lives in the like the greater Houston area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Houston's huge, so I didn't really that could
Speaker 2: be a three hour drive. Yeah, I don't know. Take
Speaker 2: me an hour. It took me ninety minutes to get
Speaker 2: to the airport the other day when I was there.
Speaker 2: He's coming, and I wouldn't be surprised if he is
Speaker 2: Max late registering these main event flights, just trying to
Speaker 2: sneak into the money, maybe playing Max late the high rollers,
Speaker 2: just to lock up that one extra cash so he
Speaker 2: can qualify for the free roll. And you know there's
Speaker 2: other events obviously NPT will probably see him at and
Speaker 2: you know, if he breaks all of these, we've got,
Speaker 2: you know, our end of season events in January, So
Speaker 2: but yeah, he's definitely going to be there trying to
Speaker 2: get that cash and obviously just trying to win another
Speaker 2: another main event because he did final table the one
Speaker 2: back in April as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see if we'll see if Tomao can
Speaker 1: rip off the third cash. I would say yes, just
Speaker 1: given the number of starting flights that there are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think your favorite to get that third cash. I
Speaker 1: mean it's good, it's a good This is a good
Speaker 1: tournament for anyone looking for their third cash, even if
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily consider yourself like a big PLO player,
Speaker 1: just because of the way that like it sets up
Speaker 1: structure wise with all the lights. Like if you just
Speaker 1: like you said, if you basically just max late reg
Speaker 1: and just kind of knit it up to you getting
Speaker 1: that money, like you can in a way kind of
Speaker 1: finagle the system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially fight so you could put in three hours
Speaker 2: of work less qualify for a million dollars free row.
Speaker 2: That's exactly pretty way to do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that, like Brian Kim is still
Speaker 1: looking for his third cash. He was messaging me about
Speaker 1: the PLO Series roundup, and I don't think he's ever
Speaker 1: played PLO so what I mean, you know that that
Speaker 1: sort of thing you could you could see that for
Speaker 1: this series, so we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So those are the three big PLO series that we
Speaker 1: have coming or well one of them is in event,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, PGT PLO Series October fourteenth through twenty second,
Speaker 1: Super High Rollerbowl PLO October twenty fourth through twenty six,
Speaker 1: lots of streaming from those two. Every PGT PLO series
Speaker 1: Foul Table will be live streamed. I believe it's going
Speaker 1: to be Remco and myself on the call for that,
Speaker 1: and then Super High Roleble PLO three days of live
Speaker 1: streaming for that, and then I haven't seen the live
Speaker 1: streaming schedule for Texas PLO Round Up yet, but I'm
Speaker 1: assuming there is one the out live stream from there.
Speaker 1: We're just ironing out those details so you know, everyone
Speaker 1: can stay tuned.
Speaker 2: But that's kind of configure Cash Game Festival beforehand leading
Speaker 2: into main events stuff like that. So we'll be coming
Speaker 2: out soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the Texas PLO Round Up series kicks
Speaker 1: off on November sixteenth, so stay tuned for all that.
Speaker 1: Of course, all your PGT information PGT dot com go ahead.
Speaker 2: The one beauty about this series is if you're a
Speaker 2: Vegas local and you don't want to be on the
Speaker 2: strip for the F one, you want to just leave
Speaker 2: town for F one.
Speaker 1: That's huge. I didn't even think about that. Get this
Speaker 1: lot of here, go to Texas exactly.
Speaker 2: This is the perfect time. The main event runs over
Speaker 2: the F one weekend, so you can leave the city
Speaker 2: for a few days, win some money playing plow, earn
Speaker 2: some PGT points, and then come back to them taking
Speaker 2: down the grum Prix annoyance that bothers us for so
Speaker 2: much time.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I should come to Texas even now,
Speaker 1: just driving? Can I ask you a question? By the way,
Speaker 1: this is completely off topic, but whatever, because like the
Speaker 1: way I go to the studio, I go on the Highway,
Speaker 1: I get off on Harmon the new exit, and I
Speaker 1: go that way. When you drive down Harmon, do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? Yeah, Well, there's on the
Speaker 1: right there's like this like entrance to something, but it's
Speaker 1: like it says like the address the addresses I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's say it's three thousand, nine and fifteen Harmon. But
Speaker 1: then right above it there's a spinning sign of sixty three,
Speaker 1: like the play spots left place. No that like the
Speaker 1: place is called like sixty three or something, but like
Speaker 1: the address doesn't match it. So I'm extremely confused what's
Speaker 1: happening like and why they decided to call it like
Speaker 1: sixty three or sixty three or whatever.
Speaker 2: I've literally never noticed that.
Speaker 1: I drive out every day and I always mean to
Speaker 1: ask you.
Speaker 2: Or before you like before you turn right, do you mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like on that first the first light, like
Speaker 1: if you if you stop at that light and you
Speaker 1: were to go this is great podcasting. By the way,
Speaker 1: Rich Ryan shot up producer for trans probably ripping his
Speaker 1: hair out. But if you stop at that light, you
Speaker 1: go left into Cosmo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at the Google maps of it, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Sixty three city Center that's what it's called. I looked
Speaker 1: it up sixty three Las Vegas dot com, Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Boulevard and Harmon Avenue. Yeah, sixty three city Center. The
Speaker 1: address is three seven one six South Las Vegas Boulevard.
Speaker 1: So I'm just confused, why like you would name something
Speaker 1: a number that.
Speaker 2: Is not I think, Yeah, I guess that's the parking
Speaker 2: for city Center for the shops. It's got to be.
Speaker 1: Sixty three City Center is an exciting nation for dynamic
Speaker 1: retail attraction and hospitality experience. Is located at the heart
Speaker 1: of the Las Vegas Strip, at the intersection of Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Boulevard and Harmon Harmon Avenue. I just don't understand
Speaker 1: the name, and I drive by it all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, because if I was telling you, hey,
Speaker 1: meet me at this place, and I said, like, meet
Speaker 1: me at sixty three Las Vegas, yeah, you might think
Speaker 1: that that's the address. Yeah, it's confusing, whereas like, no,
Speaker 1: actually the address is three seven one six South Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Bullard, Like, so it's just very confusing to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know who did this, but I don't like
Speaker 1: that person, and I have no reason for this other
Speaker 1: than just annoys me every single time I tried.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's actually pretty cool. If you're on
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're on the website like I am. They
Speaker 2: have a tab at the Toughness as Earthcam and it's
Speaker 2: like a live viewing of that corner so you can say, oh, look,
Speaker 2: lots of traffic. I'm not going to go that way
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Well, pretty this way is better than a lot of
Speaker 1: other ways. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2: Well, right now, with the f one, it's I get
Speaker 2: off on Flamingo, head down Flamingo, turn right dry past
Speaker 2: Bilage here. But that's all cut down to like two
Speaker 2: lanes now, so that's horrible.
Speaker 1: Well you can't, because but I can.
Speaker 2: I can do the harmony if I get off on
Speaker 2: Flamingo West, head towards the Rio and turn down like
Speaker 2: Value View or whatever street that is, I can do
Speaker 2: like the backdoor method, but it's the same I measure,
Speaker 2: it's like the same amount of time.
Speaker 1: It's also interesting that that Vegas has highlighted by like
Speaker 1: this section, this corner here. I mean everyone is redoing
Speaker 1: their digital LEDs. Yeah everyone. I mean it's unbelievable. But
Speaker 1: maybe maybe on that corner is what we can they
Speaker 1: can put next PLO Mount Rushmore, because that's what I
Speaker 1: want to talk about, Okay, you know, just it's a
Speaker 1: big PLO episode. So like my question is, like who's
Speaker 1: on your PLO Mount rush More? You know, we often
Speaker 1: talked about like who's on Poker's Mount Rushmore, Who's on
Speaker 1: who's on the PLO Mount Rushmore. I think I think
Speaker 1: we're at the point now with potlam and Omaha that
Speaker 1: it's it deserves its own Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: Mister PLO is up there first. L E. S Passinian
Speaker 2: number one drop pick for the PLO Mount Rushball. I
Speaker 2: also believe he is the all time money winner in PLO.
Speaker 1: So he is the all time money winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's up there.
Speaker 1: He's not on mine.
Speaker 2: Just wow, do you want to trade pix here? Do
Speaker 2: you want to do? You do one of yours?
Speaker 1: Sure? Okay, I got Phil Gelfund.
Speaker 2: Okay he was he was going to be online. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: he's not my number one.
Speaker 1: I mean number one, isn't he widely regarded as the
Speaker 1: PLO goat.
Speaker 2: Sure, then stop playing some more, Phil, instead of grinding
Speaker 2: fucking one to two PLO online, come play the pg
Speaker 2: T PLO series.
Speaker 1: And I heard I heard he's playing some events in the.
Speaker 2: Super playing the Hunter.
Speaker 1: K Oh, well whatever, he's I mean, he's too rich, he's.
Speaker 2: Not good enough. Yeah, he's watched them. But yes, I
Speaker 2: think when you think PLO, you think of you think
Speaker 2: of Phil Galfond. Obviously you have the runner once trainee
Speaker 2: side as well. So yeah, he's on my list too.
Speaker 1: I'll go next Yen's kiling in I'll take the Finn
Speaker 1: before your finessentially what I'm doing. There's no Elis Parson
Speaker 1: and if there's not a YenS killing.
Speaker 2: In, sure, but that doesn't mean Yen's is better than
Speaker 2: Elias Elis whatever.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, but this is like Mount Rushmore, so like
Speaker 1: there's some historical aspect to it all. Like, you know, so,
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the most successful Pilo players ever,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to online where he just absolutely
Speaker 1: dominated cash games for so long, A bit of a pioneer.
Speaker 1: I would say killing in was you know, just uh
Speaker 1: for like the super aggression that he brought to the game.
Speaker 1: He seemed like the guy just had limitless talent. So so, yeah,
Speaker 1: somewhat ahead of his time in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: You know. It's also tricky, you know, because he's out
Speaker 1: of the game right, you know. But but still I
Speaker 1: think he would be deserving to a spot on PLO
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you and me would probably put
Speaker 2: this guy on, but he probably doesn't deserve to be
Speaker 2: on Tommy Legend, so.
Speaker 1: Does he don't even make my list?
Speaker 2: I'm but like I feel like, you know, when we
Speaker 2: think PLO, you and me think about Tommy Lee, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously last few years bracelets and coming to our series.
Speaker 2: But I kind of in the same way you think
Speaker 2: of Phil Galfon as PELO, I also think of Ben Lamb,
Speaker 2: you know, like he doesn't play that much anymore. It
Speaker 2: doesn't have like as much as much of the chops
Speaker 2: as some of the other guys. But when I think PLO,
Speaker 2: he's one of the names I I think of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever I think of PLOW, I always snap think
Speaker 1: of Ben Lamb, you know, amongst others. But he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't make my list, made the short list was
Speaker 1: it was in debate. But I put another Ben on there,
Speaker 1: Ben Tolraene, I mean, just a absolute online PLO crusher,
Speaker 1: super super consistent, Like in a lot of ways, I
Speaker 1: feel like Toleraine is the model of a perfect PLO player,
Speaker 1: Like he's extremely calm, resilient, I said, consistent, just I
Speaker 1: don't know, kind of robotic, which isn't necessarily sexy, but
Speaker 1: it gets the job done, and in the case of Toleraine,
Speaker 1: it gets the job done in an extremely successful way.
Speaker 1: So I think I would put him on there, although
Speaker 1: I do need to say and I should have said
Speaker 1: this before I said Tolraine's name, but Galfon and kilan
Speaker 1: In snap wrote them down in my notes too easily
Speaker 1: the next two spots. Because there's four spots on Mount Rushmore,
Speaker 1: I basically had three players trying to vie for this.
Speaker 1: So I guess I picked Tollerine now because I went
Speaker 1: off what you said where you said Ben Lamps I
Speaker 1: went into so but there's a case to be made
Speaker 1: that I would have left them off this as well,
Speaker 1: So it's it's tricky.
Speaker 2: My last one is obviously the obvious pick. The greatest
Speaker 2: player in the world right now, Dylan Weisman, Okay, I
Speaker 2: believe he's second or third on the PLO all time
Speaker 2: moneyless as well, just you know, PELO bracelets, PLO titles.
Speaker 2: He's not like kind of like Eliason and some of
Speaker 2: these names I've mentioned, except for I guess Toleraine are
Speaker 2: known for PLO. You know that feels like that's the
Speaker 2: only thing they play. Obviously, some of these guys are
Speaker 2: branching out. Weisman's playing a lot more of the PGT events,
Speaker 2: but his bread and butter is is omaha, and that's
Speaker 2: what he's known for. I think he's probably considered in that.
Speaker 2: You know, Daniel always talks about the tiers of OMAHA
Speaker 2: players and how he thinks he's like tier two or
Speaker 2: tier three or something. You know, he always says Elis
Speaker 2: is tier one. I mean, I'm I'm guessing Wiseman is
Speaker 2: up there as well in some people's minds. So also
Speaker 2: a massive advocate for PLO. You know, he's one of
Speaker 2: the reasons we are kind of pushing these series now
Speaker 2: because of the popularity and the demand and play a
Speaker 2: player request. So yeah, he would, he would stinking But
Speaker 2: like you could name a bunch of other people that
Speaker 2: could easily take that false spot for me.
Speaker 1: So my fourth spot, I'm gonna go with Patrick Antonius
Speaker 1: forever has played the largest games, obvious crusher, massive cash
Speaker 1: game success, He's had successful live and online. He's super,
Speaker 1: super consistent, kind of like the same thing I said
Speaker 1: about Tolerain. Whereas if you were to build a model
Speaker 1: poker player, I think you would probably spit out Patrick
Speaker 1: Antonius just how it is. So so yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I would put him on, and I would ultimately go
Speaker 1: with galvon Keilan and Antonius and total, although I had
Speaker 1: Victor Blom right there.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wonder if we'll see him.
Speaker 1: I mean the thing about Yeah, he's been playing more recently,
Speaker 1: so we could very well see him for the series.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure. The thing with Victor Blom
Speaker 1: is the argument for Victor Blom is that I'm not
Speaker 1: sure anyone reached the height when they were at the
Speaker 1: height of their powers that Victor Blom did. But I'm
Speaker 1: also not sure that he's done it for as long
Speaker 1: as the others, right, Yeah, but like the others probably
Speaker 1: don't have the ceiling that Victor Blom reached. I mean
Speaker 1: he was the po en boss when he was at
Speaker 1: the height of his powers, Like.
Speaker 2: He was the guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you made it to the top of the
Speaker 1: top on full to a poker at the time, like
Speaker 1: you were playing it's older one, that's what you were doing.
Speaker 1: Another argument for Blom is like I think he just
Speaker 1: really shifted the high stakes landscape during that time. I'm
Speaker 1: just really pushing the levels of aggression to things we've
Speaker 1: never seen before, you know, pushing the stakes to ridiculous heights,
Speaker 1: absolutely fearless. I mean, I just remember those days when
Speaker 1: he was battling Antonio's heads up so many times. I mean,
Speaker 1: his style, you know, aggressive fearless, high variants, all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. It really did shape how I think
Speaker 1: many people think of PLO. Now, I would say that
Speaker 1: PLO is probably changed and isn't as aggressive or as
Speaker 1: high variance as it's publicly conceit perceived to be. Right,
Speaker 1: But I still think that Victor Blom is a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons why people think like action action action when
Speaker 1: they think of PLO, So could very well be an
Speaker 1: argument to put him on there. And then someone that's
Speaker 1: very similar to like a Victor Blom is Tom Dwant.
Speaker 1: You know, I know he's My dogs are going crazy,
Speaker 1: hold on.
Speaker 2: And they didn't like you, Tom Dwan. Picked That's that's
Speaker 2: what it was, because I think it's horrible.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is like he I know, you
Speaker 1: could say everything I just said about Tom Dwan for
Speaker 1: nola At hold him for sure, right. He also did
Speaker 1: dabble in PLO quite a bit, so there's some case
Speaker 1: to be made. I think ultimately he's a pretty clear
Speaker 1: stay off the Mount Rushmore. But I did just want
Speaker 1: to bring his name up and then somebody else that
Speaker 1: I I kind of struggled with looking over results. This
Speaker 1: person was like popped into my mind, like initially, and
Speaker 1: then I was like, well, I don't know, it's Sammy Farha.
Speaker 2: Oh gots a great one.
Speaker 1: But the thing is is like I feel like Sammy
Speaker 1: Faraha is more Omaha high Low than just plo. He's
Speaker 1: so I know. That's why, Like initially he popped in
Speaker 1: my mind. I was like, Sammy Farha for sure, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, plus you got like the history element, like
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. So I think I ultimately
Speaker 1: push him off, although I don't, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard. It's hard to get down to like
Speaker 1: a final four for sure. Like there's arguments for a
Speaker 1: lot of different people. I mean, for me, I have Galfond,
Speaker 1: I have Keeling in in there for sure, but you
Speaker 1: know I can I can kind of move people in
Speaker 1: and out for the for the rest of it.
Speaker 2: We need a new like statue is there an We
Speaker 2: need to build something that's Mount rushmoo, but with like
Speaker 2: seven people falls hard man for anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the point.
Speaker 2: I know, But like, you know, just give me a
Speaker 2: Mount rushmore two seven people.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is is Sean deeve in the consideration
Speaker 1: at all? Is Jeremy oustmas in the consideration at.
Speaker 2: All, Osmos is inconsideration. I think Osmos is. It's gonna
Speaker 2: say it's Ozma's closer than Dave.
Speaker 1: But what about someone like Daniel Lahi. I mean, he
Speaker 1: has had a lot of low.
Speaker 2: Racists, right, one might be a highlight of more.
Speaker 1: I think one is a high low for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he has Okay, we may need to revisit
Speaker 2: this Mount Rushmore. He has two PLO Championship racelets ten
Speaker 2: k's ten K eight bracelets. He needs to be up.
Speaker 1: There, yeah, I know, But like it for him, it
Speaker 1: comes down to like where is he at in the
Speaker 1: cash game section of PLO Because all these other guys
Speaker 1: that I've named, you know, Galfond, Quielan and Antonio's Blomb Toleraine,
Speaker 1: they all had PLO dominance in cash games as well,
Speaker 1: in addition to doing extremely well in tournaments. Right, So
Speaker 1: it's it's tricky. I mean, I guess, I guess going
Speaker 1: to your point, we need more than four spots in here.
Speaker 1: Well that's our PLO Mount Rushmore. Not that we necessarily
Speaker 1: locked in on a Mount Rushmore, but you know, just
Speaker 1: talking about some.
Speaker 2: Of the he's one more name, Scott Clements leads the
Speaker 2: all time Omaha High Low moneyless.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's all that's like a different game.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, but like that's where Sam far
Speaker 2: has fourth. You know, Bryce Yaki fifth, Daniel Lahi's six.
Speaker 2: There's some josh Aria ninth. Big names on this list though.
Speaker 1: And then I just want to bring this this name up,
Speaker 1: not that he's the name that that people don't know,
Speaker 1: but Daniel Granny I will. I've said it before, I'll
Speaker 1: say it again. I think that he is pretty underrated
Speaker 1: when it comes to PLO, and I think he's got
Speaker 1: a very good understanding of potlom and Omaha has had
Speaker 1: a lot of success in it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think that people just associate Daniel with like nolam
Speaker 1: At hold him and and probably mixed games and then
Speaker 1: kind of forget about the PLO stuff with him. But
Speaker 1: I think he's extremely good at PLO. You know, like
Speaker 1: if he were to go on to win the PGT
Speaker 1: PLO series, I would not be shocked in the slightest
Speaker 1: and no one should be, you know, is that good
Speaker 1: at PLO. I think he does very much understand it,
Speaker 1: so maybe doesn't have you know, some of the big
Speaker 1: flashy results the true that some other players have. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe hasn't played the massive cash games that other players have,
Speaker 1: but you know, I would say, don't sleep on Danieligranu
Speaker 1: when it comes to potlam and Omaha. All right, So
Speaker 1: last thing we're gonna do here, we're gonna play some
Speaker 1: fantasy poker. Buddy, you and me are gonna draft six
Speaker 1: players each. We're gonna the teams are going to cover
Speaker 1: the PLO series Super High Rollable Poo. We're gonna include
Speaker 1: the two NAPT events because they're on the PGT schedule
Speaker 1: during this time, and then also the Texas PLO Roundup.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have three categories, most cashes, most
Speaker 1: total money won, and then wins and wins are like,
Speaker 1: you know, if every every time one of your player wins,
Speaker 1: you get whatever we're betting. I would say we bet coffees,
Speaker 1: because we always bet coffee.
Speaker 2: So let's just show.
Speaker 1: Now, after the PLO series, which I'm assuming we're going
Speaker 1: to have a podcast after that, we'll do a drop ad. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can drop one player and add someone in that
Speaker 1: person's place, but the player you can drop has to
Speaker 1: have zero cashes. So if everyone on your team cash
Speaker 1: is during PLO. You ain't dropping anyone, okay, rules, Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is what we're gonna do, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: see how good you and I are at drafting players.
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Do you want the
Speaker 1: first one or second two?
Speaker 2: Second two?
Speaker 1: Of course? I mean I'm taking Helis Parson. God damn it.
Speaker 1: I mean what did you think I was gonna do?
Speaker 1: I mean the thing is because he might you know,
Speaker 1: he might not. He might not show up for the
Speaker 1: Texas PLOS so I might definitely not.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm taking taking Ozmas second, man, do I want it?
Speaker 2: Can I get this guy in the next round? I
Speaker 2: think I can. I'm gonna take Ozmus and Josh a good,
Speaker 2: very good picks.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go with I mean, I gotta
Speaker 1: go with NEGRONI of course, and then Bryce Yockey.
Speaker 2: Good one, very good. Pick two guys I wanted. There's
Speaker 2: three guys I want right now.
Speaker 1: Well you can only take two, buddy.
Speaker 2: Taking Jim call up me next. Wow. See, I know
Speaker 2: this guy is skipping the PLOS series the Texas I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take wait, wait, just to clarify Texas PELO around
Speaker 2: up PGT qualifying events only at count with Okay, I
Speaker 2: had to check. I had to check. I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: I have to take him Dan Weisseman.
Speaker 1: Also, I'm changing most total money one to most.
Speaker 2: PGT points because yeah, most money one is Yeah, that's better.
Speaker 1: I am going with Alex Foxen. And I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a chance that this guy doesn't play stuff. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. Sean Troja, I'm taking.
Speaker 2: And josaml.
Speaker 1: Wowow he's coming. Huh.
Speaker 2: I don't see why not. He always plays the Felis
Speaker 2: and he could go to Texas. He's probably playing the
Speaker 2: n apt might escape the hundred.
Speaker 1: But I got no idea.
Speaker 2: Actually, wait, no, don't you need Wait how many do
Speaker 2: you have? I have five?
Speaker 1: You you were done?
Speaker 2: I thought we're only seven. God damn, I've left my
Speaker 2: last one. I should have taken it.
Speaker 1: All right, well then we can do We'll do seven.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the benefit of do all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do Team drip Jesse Lois d damn it. I
Speaker 1: go ahead, loans yours.
Speaker 2: That was who I was going to. Well, too bad, buddy,
Speaker 2: you got one more? No, you got two more?
Speaker 1: No, I'm done. Okay, I have Parson in Negra and
Speaker 1: you Yockey Fox and Troja, Lonus and Shulman. You have
Speaker 1: Osmas Aria. I just said Lonus and Shulman, huh. And
Speaker 1: I have ari and I'm done. You have ari A, Osmas, Kalipie, Wiseman,
Speaker 1: Kaijer and Samow and you need one more. So this
Speaker 1: is the final pick.
Speaker 2: Okay, here are the names I'm considering since the droft
Speaker 2: is over. Got King John Okay, Adam Hendrix Okay, Saval Chino,
Speaker 2: Cliff Josephy, Bradley Rubin. No, we know who'll play in Texas.
Speaker 2: But some of those guys, you know, whatever, they may
Speaker 2: be be a flaky on the hundred. We've got the Tyler,
Speaker 2: the Goat, and we got our boy, Alan Lee. This
Speaker 2: is really tough. I'm just oh my god, any wants
Speaker 2: so good. He just always crashes the studio. I have
Speaker 2: to take Alan Lee. Gota do it?
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: I want to play possibly, but like I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: pull up some stats right now. He's the one on
Speaker 2: the Alan Lee.
Speaker 1: Well, he's got three hundred and forty nine PGT points,
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty sixth place, so well.
Speaker 2: He gosh, he goshed four times in March the PLO series, right,
Speaker 2: he cashed four times in October last year, and then
Speaker 2: in the March one he cashed five times. So and
Speaker 2: he's got one win from those thirteen cashes. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a gamble. You know. He missed out on Nacho.
Speaker 2: Nacho could have been a good one. Kempton, I have
Speaker 2: no idea I was going to winner Max Coleman, Tyler.
Speaker 1: Brown, Kempton in seven months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he only plays Pelon now, Okay, God, if I
Speaker 2: had lonas I was at that at the best team,
Speaker 2: If I got Lonis thought he might have slipped through
Speaker 2: the crack.
Speaker 1: All right, Well let's go okay, all right, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we'll check in on that and uh, let's see how
Speaker 1: we go. I think I'm gonna win for sure, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be owing me coffees for like a fucking year.
Speaker 1: He can't wait. You got anything else for me? Or
Speaker 1: what Toki was?
Speaker 2: No? I don't think I die.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else at all? Family thought?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Not really? Okay either do I either do?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 1: All right? So next up for us? What I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try and grab an interview or two during PO series.
Speaker 2: That's my goal.
Speaker 1: I would love to sit down with Jesse Lonis, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that out there.
Speaker 2: May or may not have broken his finger on Monday
Speaker 2: playing basketball with me.
Speaker 1: Wow, did you break the fingers?
Speaker 2: I did not. I was I was not on that court.
Speaker 2: Was not. I was actually sitting out in that game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he left. Ellie had fingerproping. He'll be right. He could
Speaker 2: just check with a different finger.
Speaker 1: Yes, it could could affect things when it comes to
Speaker 1: you know, peeling cards, throwing in the middle, all of
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. All right, As I mentioned, I
Speaker 1: go over to poker steak dot com if you guys
Speaker 1: want action on some players playing in the pg T
Speaker 1: PLO series. I believe Jonathan Little even has some stuff
Speaker 1: he listing on there, as does Hailey Hannah for the
Speaker 1: PLO series. Stephanie Chung is on there, Cheris Andrews is
Speaker 1: on there. I mentioned Dan and mcgronney for the Super
Speaker 1: high Roller role. Ozma still has two percent left Ozma's
Speaker 1: mcgranney's got his two bullets up there, Harrie has got
Speaker 1: a bullet up there. So plenty of action to be
Speaker 1: had on poker steak dot com for the upcoming PGT events.
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us. My name is Donnie Peters,
Speaker 1: his name is Tim Duckworth. Talk to you guys next time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, night. The Change Express