Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to another Weekly Geek
Geek first episode. I am the Lateral Tongue Movement Kirkland
pats Hey, my.
Speaker 2: Name is Dylan Mass. I can't compete with that nickname.
That's too good to be true.
Speaker 1: I was gonna just do like the motion, but you know,
looking out for the audio listeners that would have no
idea what I'd be doing for that that pause. This
is a very special episode because both Dylan and I
are standing right now. There's ever been two people, like
just two people casting and then both those people standing
while doing a podcast remote, at least in the Keepers history.
I don't think it's ever happened before.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, yeah, I've been implementing
the standing for maybe a year. I mean I just
got this standing dest recently, but even then, I would
like pile a table on top of a table just
to get it set up. And this whole time, you've
been hiding a little secret of yours is that you
have a standing test. So here we go. We're both up.
We have a higher overall altitude than we normally do
on the pod.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I think I'm gonna be less stationary than
I normally. I'm normally I'm like, because I work standing,
so I'm like, yeah, I'm happy to sit and just
just podcast that way. But you know, I've been in
school lately, so it's just like eight hours of just
hunched over at a desk. It's good to stand every
homework this way standing up. It's really nice getting the
blood flow. But uh, yeah, no, we're gonna be doing
this standing. I feel like really personal with you right now.
I feel like you're right just I'm looking at you
through a window and I'm just standing at like a.
Speaker 2: Stands at a window talking to each other. That's pretty
much what podcasting is, virtually, I suppose. I suppose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny how podcasting kind of just evolved to
used to just be the mic center of the room
group of people like no no visuals, and it's yeah, absolutely,
I don't think many people would be standing around a
microphone with uh, with I don't know, no other visuals
going on.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that I don't like that imagery. There's I
think the virtual standing see is fine, but if we're
all hunched around a microphone, like I don't know, that
feels really weird. To me, I don't like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even on extra life, I feel like there's not
really like there's moments where people might be standing if
they're like playing.
Speaker 2: Their games or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like not really to just talk and hang out,
like like what we're doing right now.
Speaker 2: Although that's what people do most often when they're talking
to people, would you say in their real life?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, like the around the water.
Speaker 2: At least fifty to fifty odds, I would say fifty
percent of the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like most mostly you'd be standing
for like at least face to face. Uh, just like
think of like walking down the street or at the
grocery store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sit to talk to someone.
Speaker 1: There's just so many random little interactions that you have
throughout your day, and I feel like they're mostly when
you're standing.
Speaker 2: But now I'm really overthinking that. I'm like, do you
do I talk to people more while I'm sitting or standing?
And I just I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's a question to ponder on, but uh, we're not
gonna be pondering on that quest. We got a couple
topics to be covering here in this week's Weekly Geek
but I don't know, nothing too crazy. It's gonna be
a pretty relaxed episode, which I'm happy to be joined
by Dylan for this, and we're just gonna get it
going with some what we've been watching section. So I
haven't really talked on podcasts in a while, like what
I've been watching, so I don't really know what I've covered,
whether it was like I just talked to you off
cast or whatnot. So if I bring up something I've
already mentioned, how much the fuck up? But I have
a pretty short list a couple of TV shows that
I been banging through. The big one, well maybe i'll
say the one for a second, but the well big
one in my eyes. Shane and I rewatched Arcane both seasons,
season one and season two. You've seen season one but
not season two?
Speaker 2: Correct? Yeah. I watched the first couple episodes of season
two but it was like not fresh, and I was like,
I don't remember what happened. I need to rewatch season one,
and then I just haven't done that. So that's fair
behind at this point, that's totally fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, so we rewatched it. First time I watched,
I thought it was really really solid. Season one like
really blew me away season two. I was really disappointed
with just some of like the character stuff. It was
still phenomenal show, very well made, well performed, all that,
great voice actors, well animated, but like I just really
didn't love some of the decisions around, like a certain
character that don't really want to talk about. It's kind
of like the main plot of that season. And on
a second rewatch, I definitely am a lot more open
to it, Like I think I'm I'm a lot satiated
or just content with kind of what happens in the story,
at least for like telling this story. The big thing
that I feel like I kind of had issues with
is they kind of completely remade a character in the
game already to like fit the storyline. So he used
to be this like hex tech machine, which he kind
of is in the show, but like they just change
it to a more like biological like just greater than
like Vrain type thing, which I really wasn't like a
fan of. But now that it's just been out for
a little bit longer, I feel like I've just kind
of accepted it. So I did enjoy the story overall
a lot more. On the second viewing, but man, and
I was always the I feel like in the minority
that I thought season one was much better than season two.
I still feel that way, and I feel like rewatching
the show knowing what I know now, season one hits
so much harder, like when you actually know what the
fate of certain characters is, and just like the emotional stuff,
it's just oh, I was like teering up multiple times
just rewatching season one, and yeah, just just the moments
between Bye and Jinks are just so so good, all
the characters, Like, I feel like season one is just
a better like ground. It's like Characters Adventure where it's
like the second it just gets really like universal almost
like stuff that they're dealing with. But yeah, it's so
well made. Highly recommend that show to anyone, even if
you're not a fan, even you've never heard of League
Legends at all. It's so good. I can't wait for
them to eventually put out their next project. I don't
know if it's been like confirmed for a date or
anything like that, but they have so they're gonna be
working on future projects. And I think what is Elluded
is like it's gonna be in Knoxus, which is a
couple of characters kind of come from there, and it's
kind of touched upon in Arcane. I don't know if
the next show is even gonna be called Arcane or
if they just completely change gears altogether, but yeah, there's
just so much lore and stuff to pull from in
that universe. So I I mean, if the show is
even half as good as what this one was, it's
gonna be it's gonna be phenomenal. Because this is definitely
up there for my favorite shows. Well I think I
had it on my list. If not, it definitely has
to be on there for my top ten TV shows.
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 1: But regardless, it's phenomenal. Yeah, you should maybe finish it someday, Dylan, No, no, no, rush.
You know, I still haven't gotten to Reality Bites, so
you can hold that.
Speaker 2: Over my Yeah, it's not too long, right, just a
eight episode a moment, Yeah, the most seasons, So I
definitely should. I mean, I'm behind on a lot of
a lot of shows at this point in time, but yeah,
that one definitely probably worth really putting the time in for.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, for sure. And then the other thing, the
other big thing I wanted to bring up was Stranger Things.
I watched the latest I guess first half of the
new season. Uh, you haven't seen it, right, I'm not
gonna spoil it. It's kind of fresh and you can you.
Speaker 2: Can spoil if you want to. I I've watched like
seasons two and three or you know, Okay, I dropped
off a while ago.
Speaker 1: It's a rare place to jump in. Most people started
with season one.
Speaker 2: Well I did watch one as well, but I mean
I I got to two or three. ID that weird
and you fucking immediately jumped on.
Speaker 1: That because I'm standing. I just like you're more aggressive now.
Speaker 2: Word choice, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I'll avoid spoilers where I can.
But uh, I really really enjoyed it. And for one
that I feel like season one, season two era, that
was like my favorite show of all time. Like I
just I was so in well when those shows, uh
those episodes were first dropping really really just love the character.
I love the just everything about it. I like the
sci fi mystery, the like innocent humor that's in there.
It was just really really well made show. All the
performance was really good. And then I feel like it's
just been so long that I've just kind of like
died down on my hype, and every time a new
seasons come out, I haven't rewatched the show, so that
probably hinders my overall hype levels, because yeah, like when
this one was coming out, I was like, oh, yeah,
I guess I'll get to that it's like at some point,
but really really was not Russian to get through it.
I mean, we were watching Arcane when it dropped, so
we didn't we didn't backburner that show even though we
had already seen that show to put on church things.
Shaye was a lot more excited than me, so yeah,
we threw it on and it kind of started with
me just just half watching, you know, I was like
just that level uninterested. But man, first couple episodes, I
was just hooked right away again, and I thought that maybe,
like the chemistry between the characters, it would just feel
a little bit what's the right word. It's just not
as peak as maybe I remember it being, but like
right away, they're just so good together. All those characters
I thought they were going to be looking like some
of them definitely have age significantly, well, all of them
since since season one, especially like the younger children, but
they're still just firing on all cylinders. I think they're
so great. Yeah, I like what this season. It's definitely
not my favorite season so far. I don't think it
will get there unless the finale is really like I
don't know, tier. I imagine it will be a tier jerker,
just because we've kind of been on this ride with
these individuals for so long. But yeah, the first part
I really really dug it. It's really well, it's just
a really good looking show. Obviously like big budget at
this point. And yeah, I'm definitely definitely vibing with it.
So if you are not hyped, jump into it anyways,
because I was not hyped and I still really really
dug it. I think Part two comes out like Christmas Day,
oh rough, So yeah, don't love that release time. But yeah,
imagine they'll be all there you go, I'd all go
in the chat. Multiple deaths incoming part two. I imagine
that is not a spoiler, and you're just assuming because
that's kind Yeah, he's got the inside scoop somehow, and
he's just gonna ride off into the sunset like he
always does on his hole. We'll never hear from again,
we'll never be follow up. But uh yeah, no, dig
and dig in that show, and uh, that's kind of
all I wanted to bring it up, because beyond that,
I threw on a couple Oh, actually, since you're here,
I rewatched Moneyball. I've seen that movie so many times
that you made such a great case on like why
that is just like one of your favorite movies of
all the time. And the more I watch it, I'm like,
it's kind of sleeper pick, honestly, Like I kind of
just slides into that every time I watched it. I
just I just I'm just smiling. I just love it.
I'm not a baseball fan whatsoever, but like I just
get roped in on the the the romance that is baseball.
Speaker 2: Every scene is good. Yeah, that's the thing. It's so good.
So I threw that on in the background.
Speaker 1: I was doing homework over the weekend, and yeah, it's
just it's just a good watch. So yeah, I love it,
and I think that's it. Watched a bunch of Tom
Cruise movies while ago, but I think I've kind of
already talked about those. Okay, for whatever reason, there's just
a shit ton of Tom Cruise movies that are leaving Netflix.
And then in Netflix there's like the category it's like
things that are leaving soon and I'm like, wow, gotta fire,
gotta fire.
Speaker 2: Out some of these ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just put those ones on, like American Maide
I think I already talked about and yeah yeah, and
then the other ones would have been even longer than that.
So that's kind of all I've been watching as of late.
But uh, what about you? What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have much really. The one for me,
it's similar to your Arcane one as I've been rewatching
Fallout season one. Oh nice. I knew I wanted to
do that before this new season came out because there's
just a lot that happens in that show, and I
have a terrible memory. So yeah, I've been rewatching that,
and you know, I'm not giving it my undivided attention.
It's definitely like, you know, fifty percent of the brain
is focusing on this while I'm like tidying up or
editing or doing random things. But uh, yeah, it's uh,
it's it's been fun to rewatch that. It's just it
is such a great show. Oh, it's so fun. I
feel like it really taps into all the different areas
you'd want and like the follow up universe that are interesting.
And yeah, so I think I'm like right near the
end of it, and I don't really remember exactly like
how some of the fates end for some of these characters,
so I definitely need to catch up on some of that.
And yeah, because that comes out the seventeenth I think
it is, is when that first episode drops, which is
kind of weird because I'm not gonna be able to
be on that episode for the first episode, and then
the next two weeks are like we're kind of on
Christmas break, so I don't think we're gonna cover those,
So I probably won't jump in until like, you know,
midway through this new season whatever, when we finally talk
about on the podcast again. But I'll definitely be watching it,
like as soon as possible. I'm excited for that show.
And yeah, I've just been itching to jump back in
play some play some fallout, so might be doing some
of that as well. But yeah, that's that's been a
good time to rewatch that one. I think I forgot
how funny it is, you know, just just a lot
of good laughs in there, good moments, effects look great.
So that's uh, that's been a fun rewatch because I
don't really rewatch things very often, but for this one,
I really wanted to catch up on the story, get
up to date. And yeah, it's kind of nice to
go through it. I just like my own pace and
also kind of like binging it to some extent too,
not having a wait weeks week to go through it,
so I can just kind of remember things that happened
more recently more easily. So that's been. That's been pretty good,
and not much other than that. I'm just you know,
I'm watching Survivor on a weekly basis. That the season's
almost over. Next season is gonna be a big one,
so excited for that. And uh, that's that's pretty much it. Man. Yeah,
not a ton. I don't think I've I don't think
I've watched a movie in like a month maybe, so I.
Speaker 1: Haven't really seen anything like Moneyball. Man, it's time for
it is the season.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, and I feel bad. I
have not listened to the non spoilers or spoil any
of the Running Man thing yet. But am I gonna
like that movie? Is that gonna be a Dylan movie?
Or should I just not?
Speaker 1: Even you're a Glenn poal fan, aren't you you know
as much as anyone?
Speaker 2: What was your quick overall thoughts?
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to give me a review,
but like, what do you think about the original Runnyman
with or any that's fine?
Speaker 2: Great? Does it feel like an Edgar Wright movie like
when you actually see it because the trailers did not
feel like that.
Speaker 1: I I feel like you don't have to rush to
get it. It might come up in a category or
two for Golden Geeks, but like, I'm gonna have to
talk to Taylor about that. I'm not sure if Travis
has seen it yet or not. I imagine he will
have seen it. Yeah, I'm like Taylor like super peaked
on it. So like if it was like a ten
out of ten must see adventure, then actually I would
have I would have given you that. But yeah, I
don't think you have to rush to it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good because I'm I'm so behind on movies
from this year, so if i can anyones that I
can avoid watching before Golden Geeks is helpful at this point.
So yeah, I'll maybe I'll keep that one on the
not even backburn or whatever's below the backburner, just like
under under the Yeah, in the fridge, in the freezer,
back of the freezer, it's got it like the ice
crusted all over. Yeah you didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't seal the freezer bag. So it's just all
the frost got in there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, stuff, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Okay, I mean, so I kind of answered
just what I was gonna ask about. You haven't been
watching any Christmas stuff a getting in the season. Doesn't
look like you have a big tree up behind you.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I own roughly one small bag worth
of decorations. Uh, so I might maybe put it so sad,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Just I picture it like in the corner of your closet,
just just to collect and dust.
Speaker 2: You're a little bit Oh wait, it's it's in the
back of the freezer.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Bags got to keep that stuff cold, you know, for
the season. Yeah. I don't own a lot of stuff
anymore because of events from last year. But yeah, I
haven't watched anything yet. I don't think i've really put
music on that. I've heard some music just in passing.
So I I guess it is December now for me.
That's the day when I can actually start watching this stuff.
So maybe uh, sooner, but I don't haven't felt very
Christmas y yet.
Speaker 1: I suppose imagine you don't have snow or anything right
now over there, absolutely not just rain, just rain, just rain.
I mean, it's that's fair. It's only second of December
at the time of this recording, if I'm being honest,
I don't even have a tree up or anything yet.
So and I haven't watched any Christmas related things. Okay, okay,
just been school mode and that's what that's been my focus.
But that kind of pivots us into a Patreon question
which I will bring up right now, which was sent
by the Great Mike G. And there's a follow up
clarification attached to this, so don't jump right in once
I finished speaking. Wait a minute, Mike G asks you
can only watch three Christmas movies for the rest of
your life. Which three do you choose? And followed up
with clarification you can still watch any non Christmas movies
you want, but these are the only Christmas movies you
have access to. I just realized I read that as
Mike G. Also, that's not super bad, Mike, is it?
Or is it together? I'm like, I'm just Ron Burgundy
man if I read the teleprompter, I'm reading everything that's
in there.
Speaker 2: But some people it's like use the same name on everything, please,
I can't remember anything anyway.
Speaker 1: It's like repata, you know, I know, I know who
I'm adding, whether it's PlayStation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly one. Sometimes I have to change the spelling
because if it's like taken, then I'll like put two
ease and seven I or something. But yeah, I try
try and be consistent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to start the bidding with three movies?
Speaker 2: This is pretty easy for me? Uh so one and two.
I'm gonna go with Home alone one and two. Yeah.
I think for a lot of people that might be like, oh,
I got I gotta pick one. Which one is that?
You know, people usually have their go to I love
both of them like equally. Uh and they're the only
think it's those two movies and the third one I'll
mention are like really the only three Christmas movies I
watch every year. So this actually is pretty easy for me.
There's other ones that I'll put on every once in
a while every few years, like I love the Grinch,
Like the Odie one is weird. I don't know, I
watched it for the first time last year.
Speaker 1: Like the animated one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I hadn't watched it since I was like
a kid or something, fucking weird movie, but that was
you know, that's that's a good one to put on
like ever like five years for me, and I feel
like the Jim Carrey Grinch, that's like maybe every year,
but like every two to three years. That's that's good
for me. But Home Alone one two they get put
on every year no matter what. They're big ones for
my family too, so even if I don't put them on,
they're just playing at my sister's house or something. And
then Elf Elf with the Great Will Ferrell, just another one.
It's fun, it's hilarious, it's easy, easy watching. And that
one I think always just gets put on at least
once a year as well. So really there was only three.
Like I said, that actually guarantee get a watch out
of me every single year. But I don't usually go
two ham on the Christmases. Usually try and check out
a new one or two, like I watched the Jack
Black one from last year and the Hot Frosty of
course that we all talked about. But yeah, like I
don't have too many that are like in the constant
rotation every year. So honestly, for me, kind of kind
of easy to answer this one, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just to clarify, two home Alons and then
the Grinch or Elf El Elf, Okay, that'd be your
three rich.
Speaker 2: Jim Carrey's Grinch would maybe be number four if I, uh,
that's had to expand the list that I made Mount Rushmore, Yeah,
it'd be too.
Speaker 1: McCauley, Culkins, Will Carol and Carrey just wearing the same
like twoke also and the two McCauley's. Yeah, it's funny.
I have a very similar list to you, and my
little honorable mention. Fourth would actually be Elf. So that's
the one that didn't quite make it. In a lot
of nostalgia for that movie. Used to watch it all
the time when I would go to my Auntie's house
for whatever reason, I would just put it on, even
if it wasn't Christmas. I feel like I'd just be
thrown on Elf. It was like a tradition when I
was there. Loved that movie so much, but I was
really doubling down on like, Okay, these are my three
movies that I can only watch the rest of my life.
And I feel like I wanted a little bit of flavor,
a little bit of layering of my list, So that
added to like the strategy element of picking my three here.
So thout further ado my top three, the one that
kind of pushed l well, actually I'll start the other way,
super easy one without thinking original Home Alone. That is
just my Home Alone. That's my Christmas movie. I've seen
it probably like ninety percent more than I've seen Home Alone. Two.
I just remember a lot more quotes than I do
from the second one, and yeah, absolutely love it. It's
it's a fantastic Christmas movie. And then after that, I
have How the Grinch Stole Christmas, the Jim Carrey one.
That one was like a lot more. I feel like
Elf and that one were like really close to being tied,
so like really either of them could have made it
in there, I think. But getting into my strategy, I
didn't want just like all similar, like family type movies.
So my number three that I'm throwing in here to
round off my list is The Night Before. Okay, I
just feel like the humor is so my humor and
I absolutely love that movie. Every time I watch it,
I'm like Belly laugh, and you got some great Michael
Shannon in there. Yeah, So I for that reason, I'm like,
I could watch this for the rest of my life.
So I want like a little bit of the stoner
humor mix in with you know, some some great Christmas magic.
So that's that's my three movies I have to pick,
and unfortunately I have to kick Elf to the side.
Even though I love Will Ferrell.
Speaker 2: I got them, I got him in there. It's all good.
Speaker 1: There. I'll come over to your house and we'll share.
Speaker 2: Exactly The Night Before is a great show. Obviously, we
did that retro. I think it was two years ago
at this point, and I think I probably said on
that episode like this one's going into the yearly rotation.
So if I did say that, I clearly lied. But
I do think it's pretty close. I think it's on
that like every two to three years, I got to
put it on, so I think this year I'm do
so maybe I'll put that one on right on.
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go check it up. Alrighty, we are back, ready to roll,
still standing. I feel like I gotta work on my
stamina because I'm like, I'm like kind of stepping as
I'm going. I feel like I was a little too
stationary there for a little bit. Maybe I was leaning
too much on one side. I was starting to feel
a little bit in my lower back.
Speaker 2: I think the limit for me is like hour and
a half podcast. That's when it's getting that's when it's
getting rough. Yeah, is your yours isn't like one of
those big crank ones. It looked like it was a
pretty easy incline, right, it's uh.
Speaker 1: It's digital. So I made like two settings. So there's
like a sitting mode and a standing mode.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I gotta do that. There's a I don't
know how to program that on this one, but it
has that setting.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I feel like I did it, and
I threw out the instructions and I'm like, I probably
need these at some point. Yeah, no, I'm keeping this height. Yeah,
we'll find out what my limit is. It might be
in this episode. We we might find out it might
just collapse. I feel like I need like a fatigue Matt. Also,
I have one of those in my kitchen and stuff
that's like I must have that's a good point, or
shoes or something. I'm just kind of on my my
vinyl floor. But I digress. Okay. The big juicy uh well,
one of the big juicy heads. That is our topics tonight.
Speaker 2: Head.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Mount Rushmore now, So I'm just I
got the head visual going on. Dylan, you and I
both played and enjoyed some hell divers in our day.
I don't know if we played together, actually not. I'm
thinking about it. I've always flaked out whenever.
Speaker 2: You were one kind of guy. Right, Yeah, you jumped
in with the GV boys on the night I couldn't,
and then you just kind of haven't played again because
he played it when it came out closer to true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do you want to get back in there,
But who knows. Maybe the next time I'm gonna be saying,
Hell Divers is going to be on the big screen
without a joystick in my hand? WHOA isn't that kind
of crazy? Or a joystick my hand? Who knows? Interactive?
Ina didn't? Was it Banterer Snatch that was the one
that kind of did that? Or that was just Netflix?
So have remote?
Speaker 2: People might have a TV remote that has a joystick.
I don't, but some person might. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I guarantee somebody has the program something so they can
use there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least one person.
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, But yeah, No, there is supposedly a Hill
Divers movie coming from Sony, and my air quotes say
that it's been confirmed, which is pretty crazy. We even
have a director, We even have a writer of the script.
We got Justin Lynne to direct. He famously did Star
Trek and Fast and Furious I don't know if that's
all the Star Treks. I'm gonna pull that up and
I get looking here, yeah, and then thank you. And
then for the writer, we got Gary Doberman who famously
did it again, just just one it. I don't know
if that's all of them or not, but and I'm
assuming that's not the TV show that's going on right now.
And also the Conjuring Universe films, which is some big
ass franchises in there. I feel like it makes sense
to have some well known especially you know, looking at
the director's plethora of work amongst those two, it just
seems like there's a good level of humor as well
as action and involved. Then that's kind of exactly what
I would want out of a Hell Divers movie. I
wouldn't want it to be I mean, you know, somewhere,
some some in some universe there was maybe just some
crazy character driven Oscar nominated script of like in the
Hell Divers universe. But for just the first project, like now,
I want to be basically a Starship Troopers knockoff, which
I always I always thought, uh, I feel knockoff is
given it to too much of a negative to it.
But I first time I played Hell Divers, it just
seemed like it was in that magical element that is
Starship Troopers. There's just certain I don't even know what
you describe it as, whether it's like the humor or
just like the style. It's just it's just like patriotic
and like core yeah yeah, corps. Yeah, there you go.
That's a good one. Just all like the propaganda like
join up for the Earth Defense Force, you know, like
that whole shebang is uh it just it just such
a great combination of action and comedy. So as soon
as I like booted into Hell to Average and they
have that great intro cut scene, like it's just, yeah,
make a movie out of this, that this would do
so well. I feel like the game is just blown up,
so the popularity is there for demand. I feel like
it would do pretty decent numbers. But you know, well
we'll get there when we get there. But yeah, what
do you think about this kind of just first off,
the cough off off, the cough off off, the coff.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, actually, can you because I forgot to google this,
but can you look up like just box office wise
how Starship Troopers has done. And I feel like there's
probably at least two of those, right, Like, is there
a series?
Speaker 1: Well, man, there's many.
Speaker 2: Is there a bunch? Okay?
Speaker 1: I always thought there was two, but uh, let me
get a total number here. Yeah, definitely at least like three.
Oh okay three, maybe more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm I'm curious about that. I mean, yeah,
it is funny that this because I still have never
seen Starship Troopers. But obviously everyone always like says held
is just yeah that knockoff of that. In concepts, this
feels like a funny game of telephone now where it's
like there's Starsial Troopers and there's a game that kind
of knocks off the idea of that, and now we're
doing a movie which is just copying the game, I guess.
So it just feels like, I don't know the the
following that chain. That line is pretty straightforward in a sense.
So like, obviously it's proven that it can work before
in a movie format, which is something that we always
debate when it comes to video games and translating them
to movies, as games are typically a lot longer than movies.
So it's like, how do you take this story? Do
you just take the world and like extrap like a
news story out of it? Do you try and condense that?
Do you go for a TV show roue? Because then
you have more time to flesh out these characters? What
kind of changes do you make? But this one, even
though it's a game that has a lot of content
in it, it takes you know, longer than one movie's
length to play through it all. Obviously, the formula has
been done before, and there isn't really much of a
story in Hell Divers too anyway. It's more just like
set dressing and like you know, setting the scene, so
you kind of can just easily fill in, create some characters,
actually give them names, they do some story, they got
to go take out the big mother hive thing on
this planet, core or whatever. There's a couple of smaller
missions on the way. It just writes itself. It's like
pretty easy. So I think, I'm I don't really care
about this personally, Like I haven't seen Starship Troopers obviously,
so maybe I have to see that, Like oh, I
can't wait to see like a new version of that
pretty much through Hell Divers. But even like you know,
I like Hell Divers too. I'm having a good enough
time with it. But it's not one that I get
excited for as like, oh man, I can't wait to
see that on the big screen. I think it is interesting, Like,
obviously this game is huge, a big deal for Sony,
and it wasn't a first party game. It was like
a second party game for them. But they're obviously you
know this is coming from them, so they're kind of
promoting this into a movie status. And yeah, I guess
I just want to look at a bunch of other
Sony things. Maybe there's other properties I'd be more excited
to see Turn of the big screen, but also on
chart it already happened, Horizons getting a show, Death Stranding's
getting into show, God of Wars getting to TV. It's
hard for me to remember if these are shows or
movies anymore. But I just feel like there's other things
I would rather see. Like give me an animated ratchin
click movie, I'd be more interested in that. Maybe that's
already happened. I don't even know, but like, I feel
like there's other ip that I would find more interesting
for me personally. But I do think this is okay. Well, actually,
do you have the box office for those things? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do? Uh for the first movie, which was considered
a box office disappointment. That's I expected worldwide gross, which
was one hundred and twenty one point one million dollars
off of one hundred and five million dollar budget, So
I barely scratch of the surface. So I'm definitely not doubling,
which is kind of what you want to see for
marketing wise. And I didn't know this at all, but
there's quite a few like video games for Starship Troopers.
Like I knew about the the RTS and stuff like that,
but there's just a lot of Starship Trooper content out there.
So there's the movie which was inspired off of the book.
The book released nineteen fifty nine. The original movie, which
I think is Yeah, it's just fantastic, highly recommend you
watch it came out in nineteen ninety seven. It's just
Starship Troopers. Yeah, And I thought there was like multiple
projects afterwards. Not so much there was.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it makes sense the first one
didn't do well at the box office.
Speaker 1: Then Yeah, that's actually your point. It doesn't usually get
a sequel. No, you're one hundred percent right. It's just
because like the cult following of it makes me think
of these movies were just massive, like the Star Wars
of their time. Clearly not the case. But so the
first one came out, and then television television film which okay,
I think that's just released on TV, came out two
thousand and four. Starship Troopers two, Hero of the Federation.
I think they brought back the same Chap, maybe not,
I don't remember his name, but a couple different characters
that were like removed, so I think i'd seen that
one maybe once, but no more than that. And then
direct to video we got Starship Troopers three, which definitely
has the main Chap in there from the original, which
is kind of funny, uh, And then that came out
in twenty and eight, and then another direct to video,
which is Starship Troopers Invasion, came out in twenty twelve,
and then another directive video which was Starship Troopers Trader
of Mars twenty.
Speaker 2: So they really are spamming them. But it's been a
long ass time since there's actually been one in theaters,
and so obviously box office in the theater experience is
a lot different than it was back in ninety seven.
I think you said it was, So how do you
think this is gonna do, like, is this gonna be
a big success of they're gonna go for a list
stars to be your main squad, Like what's the strategy
here and does does this actually like is this profitable
for them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I imagine we will see like a big name. I'm
not gonna say an a list star, but just someone
that we really recognized that would just fit in that
action hero role. I mean, you know Sony just thinking
about Sony projects, like they've just say what you will
about the call of the films. They usually have just
big names in their movies, whether it's the Lettos of
the World, Aaron Taylor, Johnson of the World, dcoded Johnson's.
Speaker 2: Of the World, Tom Hardy's of the World.
Speaker 1: Tom. Yeah, I won't forget your buddy. So I don't
think they would do a no name even though like
that's probably the best because that you could just be
a little bit lower on the budget, because I imagine
they're still gonna have some some big budget prices in
the movie for just like big exploding bugs and and
all that Jazz held out who was.
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to think if there's like an actor
that I know is like a big gamer I feel
like Jack Quaid is Jack Quade a gamer like I
could I could see him popping him.
Speaker 1: Probably he's kind of a young guy, right and he's
around our age. Uh yeah, that's probably a good guess.
I mean, Henry cavill is like the biggest of the gamers,
but he's of course, you know, attached to his Warhammer
forty K project. He could be a good fit because
he's not doing similar Starship Troopers and like the Space
Marine guy, Like, it just seems like very similar type
of project. You think you would do Space Marine and
then also start, sure, why not It's not even called
stars Troopers anymore. I'm getting roped into all this history
hell divers. There you go. I'm sure. I'm sure he's
played some hell.
Speaker 2: You had to take a bag when you can get
a bag sometimes in Hollywood, you know, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean he's not doing Witcher, so maybe he just
wants to do video game stuff and we will go there.
I'm totally down to get Henry Cavill in there. I
love that guy. That'd be a great fit. Also, I
don't know, though, I feel like, you go, probably not
this guy, but like just someone that's really that same energy,
which is of course the the I was gonna say
the Great but the Blue Jake Suley don't even remember
his actual.
Speaker 2: Right now, but just just.
Speaker 1: That type of actor where you're just like you just
look at him and you're like, oh man, that guy
in action movies put put it on me.
Speaker 2: Whatever, generic, boring, good looking white that's who you.
Speaker 1: Want as your hell diver. I mean, you know, you
don't have to be a white guy.
Speaker 2: You can diver.
Speaker 1: But I just a recognizable face, but not like such
a name that it's like, holy, what about we got
Leo in here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What if we? Because obviously the director here justin
Lynn so and I was looking at past and furious
He's done like half of them, so that's like a lot.
So what about what about that crop? Like I feel
like a Michelle Rodriguez could actually crush and.
Speaker 1: Get her in there. Absolutely absolutely get her in there.
I would yeah, absolutely. I don't know I want to lead,
but like I want her in the in like the crew, Yeah,
just because.
Speaker 2: I feel like you probably have a crew of like four,
Like I think it's more ensemble than like following one person.
But also a lot of people are probably dying off
just randomly throughout this, but you probably have a core four.
I would think you.
Speaker 1: Need your cannon fodder. What else do you get in there?
Danny Trejo in there?
Speaker 2: You know, I feel younger, although I don't know how
old Michelle Rodrigue is. Like she could be like thirty,
but she's probably like sixty three.
Speaker 1: I don't know, she's forty seven. Okay, I was so
often both direction looks amazing, she looks young? Yeah? Else
to do got from the Fast franchise?
Speaker 2: I'm just yeah, looking at the past, the most recent one.
I mean, Charlie's Sarona is apparently in there, but I
don't know if she would do be a good fit.
I don't want I don't want Vin Diesel, John Cena.
I feel like that's like his style of humor. I
think John Cena, John Cena would Yeah, but is he too?
Does he cost too much money? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Fast six. Who is in Fast six?
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of bigger names. I'm trying to think
not too big, but just recognizable face. Give that a google.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jack Black's in every video game movie, so
maybe he's in there. He's gonna be the lead. I
feel like a hmmm, yeah, I need an know who
more like gamer people are, but I feel like there's
a there's some potential here from this this crew that
we're just kind of mentioned here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, I got one more name. I just forgot
the actor's name, but I know what he's in. Uh.
I don't know how well he would fit. I mean,
the movie is kind of goofy humor, and he would fit.
But I know he is a gamer. I'm going Ben
Schwartz in here in the hell Okay, I could see
that as well. Yeah, he could be not necessarily a
hell diver. Maybe he's a poorly qualified hell diver. But
I just feel like I'm more on like the propaganda side,
just like roping people in to sign up for democracy.
Speaker 2: Give me, give me a James Marsen to just get
the Son of Boys in there. In general, I think
that Carrie, you know, he's in there. He's playing a
bug or something.
Speaker 1: He could be like on like the like the Terminator guys,
like the Robots basically just doctor Robotnik, but just just
like the voice of a machine. Have you fought the
robots yet?
Speaker 2: Or No, the voice of a machine. Wait, who do
you want? Is the voice of machine? Jim carry Oh? Okay, No,
I don't think he's the vibe.
Speaker 1: No, No, it might be too expensive.
Speaker 2: Also, there's like a certain humor here that's different than
Jim Carrey, I think, But I could be wrong, and
he's obviously a great actor, He's got a lot of
potentil But I do think that the combo here, justin
Lynn seems like a really good director choice for this
obviously big budget action movies. Cool, it's right up as
Star Trek is obviously similar sci fi kind of energy
going on there. And then the writer, yes, obviously like
has done it done conjuring universe stuff so different, more
horror vibes. I think you do want there to be
some horror, Like there is horrorness, a scariness to hell
divers right when there's just thousands of bugs crawling around you.
But obviously I think you want that humor side as well,
that tone. I don't know if he's got that side
of it, but I feel like I feel like most
Hollywood writers could probably poop out a pretty decent hell
diverse script. So I think this is seems like a
pretty good duo to me to come up with like
a pretty solid enough, solid enough movie. Well, just I
think the big thing will be the stars because I
think behind the camera it seems like they've got pretty
pretty solid crew here. I'm curious to see what they
get for whether they go for the A listers, if
they have the budget for that, or if they have
to go for like the lower Crop or something. We'll
see what they do.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, regardless, though, I am interested in the the
ip enough to want to go watch it, and I
mean I'm also massive Starship Troopers fan. I feel like
that's a big reason why I even got the game
in the first place. Yeah, was that reason. So yeah,
exciting stuff. Hopefully it's a really solid video game movie,
you know those. We're getting more video game movies than
we did at the birth of this podcast. It used
to be few and far between. But I like that
we're getting more. I'm not gonna say to the quality
of them, but we're getting more.
Speaker 2: So this is specifically from Sony. They're they're spamming this stuff.
They also had until Dawn this year, which we didn't mention,
but yeah, like they're just they're crushing it with the well,
crushing it with quantity. I don't know follow quality, but.
Speaker 1: I'm like until, oh, yeah, right, they're making stuff, Yeah,
they are making stuff. That's the first step in making
a a gold golden nugget of a film is just
putting it out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't make a good movie if you don't
make a movie. That's what I always say.
Speaker 1: You can make a bad movie. So take that you will.
Speaker 2: Anything else on hell divers No, No, nothing else for me.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, we're gonna keep mosey on over into
another violence sphere. Which we ever heard of the franchise
Kill Bill Dylan muss I've heard rumors, Yeah, you've heard
rumors of it. Well, if you heard concrete rumors, there's
one and two. There's two movies, Kill Bill one and two,
and we might be getting the third aka Kill Beatrix,
which is possibly in developments. Definitely not confirmed here, but
the theory would be that it's directed by Robert Rodriguez
and as of this time it's unknown if Quentin Tarantino
would write the script. We got a little C tier
bracket in there, so take that with a grainis salt
if you will. But I'm just gonna throw it over
to you. What do you want this at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really a kill Bill fan. The first
time I watched those movies was with the retrospective, and
I'm glad I finally did knock them out because, you know,
going through that retrospective, watched all the Tarantino stuff I
hadn't seen to that point. Just not my cup of tea.
Like even just in general, that genre of movie is
not really my spot. There are solid movies, but like
we've did the retro, I watched them each, you know,
once for that retro and I haven't watched them again
and don't really have any pull too, which is which
is too bad because obviously people love those movies and
usually people have them pretty high in their Tarantino rankings,
but it's just not really my cup of tea unfortunately.
So to see that it's coming back, I mean, I'm
happy for people, because you know, people love this, this series,
this world. But yeah, I also like, we'll see because
Quentin Tarantino, even if he isn't writing the script, I
imagine he's at least a producer, he's in the works
for it, and I continue to just be annoyed with
him and his whole like ten movie thing, and he's
just like it seems like he's trying to do anything
to just not make movies. At this point, he's just like, Wow,
this doesn't count. If I produce a new killed Bill
movie and I write this script or whatever, like I
don't know, we'll say, I don't, Yeah, I don't. I
could probably work on an impression of him. I feel
like I have that in me.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I think so, I think there's some
some some spirit.
Speaker 2: I feel like I have the same like facial structure.
I have, like the big chin like he's got, and
so I feel like I could pull off a Tarantino impression.
Speaker 1: But try to fuck me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of got like a it's like
a tiny bit nazy, a little bit squirrely. Right, he's
a weird guy, yeah, right, in a good way sometimes.
But yeah, I don't know, Like, so that's a little conjecture.
We don't know if this is real or if he's involved.
I mean he's involved to some extent right in the
fact that he owns the IP I imagine. Uh, but
we'll see what happens there in terms of Robert Rodriguez.
So obviously they work together in like the Grindhouse stuff, right,
they did like Machete or whatever and death Proof and
I don't I don't know. I've only seen death Proof
out of that whole crop of whatever weird little stuff
they're making in that era. But obviously they've worked together before.
They're good combo Rodriguez. Like looking at his recent IMDb like,
it's not stellar stuff. He's been doing a lot of,
I don't know, nothing too exciting lately, but obviously he's
got some good potential. Uh maybe has like the good
visual thing. And if if QT gives him the rights
to this, I trust that it was like a good call.
I guess creatively seems like a good fit in that way,
even if the stuff I've seen from him maybe has
like a different energy to it. But you know, this
is gonna be different than like a Tarantino Kill Bill
if it does happen, because it's obviously not him directing,
maybe not even writing, so kind of have just have
to be ready for it to be potentially something very different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is tricky for me. I I
love Kill Bill. I'm just gonna couple them together, you know,
as QT would say, they're one movie. I love them. Yeah,
just I love the action. I love the acting. I
the more I watch it, the more I like that movie. Yeah,
it's it's fantastic. We're getting rumors that we might be
getting the like the super cut version here in Town,
which is like nice, both movies splice together, which I
would have to go see because that would just be insane.
I've never seen on the big screen before, so that'd
be crazy nice. I think I think it's like four hours,
four and a half, like something ridiculous like that. But
I'm down. I don't think I want this though. I
I feel like just having a different director and it
just being so long from like the previous ones, it
would just it would almost feel like the El Camino
movie for me, which I love Breaking Bad. It's definitely
one of my favorite TV shows of all time. But
like that movie was just very fine, and it had
some elements that felt like Breaking Bad. But like it's
just it's just something different, like Death of the Outsider
to dishonor still really good, but like I mean, that's
kind of a bad comparison because I still really love
Death the Outsider, But you know what I mean, it's
like a step point five away, and I feel like,
at its best, like best case scenario, that's what this
would be. Maybe that's being a little bit too negative
on it, because maybe it could be like a really
really epic epilogue to that story. But I just feel
like in eight out of ten universes, like it just
doesn't go well, and it's like, why did we even
do this? Why did we we dig up this this
franchise to just kind of do that to it? You know,
Robert Rodriguez obviously friends with Quentin Tarantino. I don't think
he would like go I don't think anyone would go
out of another way to like make a shitty project.
But I just I don't know. I feel like there's
more situations that cannot go great versus the the the
other way. So yeah, I don't really want this. I
kind of would be surprised if it even kind of
gets some traction and ends up going through it. Just
it just kind of seems odd to me here, and uh, yeah,
I don't know. It's kind of all I really say
on it. I don't really want to. I don't have
too much to say on it because I just also
don't think it's actually gonna happen. It just seems like
kind of a low, lower tier rumor. But I don't
know that's my overall.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been like rumors of a third one
in the past two right, and I feel like maybe
it was like, yeah, Tarantino was writing and like not
directing or something as well, like back a few years
ago or something. So it feels like it's always kind
of bubbling, It's always right there under the under the surface.
For some reason, out of all of his movies, I mean,
maybe this one just makes more sense as like actually
having a sequel, whereas most of his other movies just
like are pretty definitively closed and a lot of the
characters are dead, which is also the case here. But
I feel like you could definitely go another direction, But
I don't know. Yeah, I'm curious what this would look like.
Do you think it would bring Maya Hawk in the
fold now that she's a big star?
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be great. I mean those two look
so similar, the two being Maya and Uma. I think
Maya is a phenomenal actress for what I've seen of her.
Shout out to her in Stranger Things. She was great
this the season, so far. Yeah. I don't know, though,
I like I think that's one of those things where
it's like, oh, it's fun, but like that's kind of
the most interesting thing about this project is happy Maya
hawk don the roll of her mother. I don't I
don't think they would do that. I don't know. I
don't know a lot of unknowns.
Speaker 2: I think it would be like a dot, like it
would literally be her daughter.
Speaker 1: In the movie. Oh in the movie. Okay, I guess
that would make sense because then we could just do
like time jumps too. This is the bride alive like
later on.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would like that more than I dislike it if
that ever happens.
Speaker 2: Does she die at the end of the part two?
Speaker 1: Uh, she's like leading out. But I don't think there's
anything definite. I guess I should double check.
Speaker 2: Is it ambiguous? It's like the inception moment. That's how
well I know these movies. I've only seen them once
years ago, when too the direction, I should know this, I've
seen them, you should.
Speaker 1: Uh. Oh yeah, no, Actually she's live. Beatrix reunites with
her daughter Bibi, and they leave to start a new life,
and I just unplugged my ear. Okay, I can't hear
anything you're saying. Okay, I know you can't hear me,
but what I'm what I'm I'm hearing.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know about a wheel on
this until you go back? Could could could we age
up and the daughter be my hawk with that fit
based on what the characters like in the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, now you're selling me on it
because now now I'm a little more intrigued by this,
So maybe my interest level went up a little bit
there knowing that, but I still don't really think it's happening.
I don't know. I don't think I need a little
bit more.
Speaker 2: I mean it is seatier, which is which is uh crap,
that's what big chance for? Yeah? Uh anything else? Kill Bill.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say something, but I kind of forgot No.
Speaker 2: I think, uh, I think it's all this is. Yeah.
I feel like we've getting so much whiplash or like
Tarantino news lately of like he was making the movie
critic movie critics canceled, we're getting oh maybe Tom Cruise,
and Tom Cruise isn't in this. He scraps that he's
moving on his other thing. He's doing this, he's doing that,
he's gonna direct like the Star Trek thing, but that
doesn't count towards his ten movies or whatever the fuck
is going on. But this one is like one of
the least exciting ones. And obviously it's like a personal thing,
but it's it's interesting to me that also not really
that interesting for you to get more killed Bill. So hopefully,
hopefully that's hopefully it's not in the works and we're
just going different directions with his creative works right now.
For sure.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things too where if
like two ended on like a cliff hangar, and it
also came out like five years ago, like I feel
like there would still be like some smolder to that
candle that's been blown out. But like right now that
candle is in your freezer with your Christmas decorations, Like
I just I don't see anything anything that's going to
ignite that and I don't need it to like just
let that candle sit in the freezer, you know, Yeah,
I'm totally fine with that.
Speaker 2: Let it ferment in there, just getting nice and crispy.
Speaker 1: You can't ruin the project if you never touch it. Again,
it's there. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: You can't make a bad movie if you don't make
a movie.
Speaker 1: The truer statement was never said, Okay, if we got
nothing else to say, we're gonna go to another ad break.
I think we're gonna jump back into some some movie previews.
We're we're back, all right. I did call them previous,
by the way. I kind of like that term.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, the previous I definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1: It's still like attached to a movie, like I'm seeing
it preview, like I'm before my movie. So I shouldn't
say it here. Then I should just keep to the trailer.
Speaker 2: I think trailer, you know, because there's like a distinction
between teaser and trailer. But I think that'd be cool
if that became your thing, just calling trailer's pre previous. Yeah,
there's something it's not wrong.
Speaker 1: Innocent about it. I like that term.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when people it's like I'm gonna
go see a movie, I'm gonna go see a film,
or then like pretentious people are like I'm gonna go
see I'm gonna go see a picture, and it's like yeah, yeah,
everyone can come therow a little flavor on it this picture.
I like using that ironically, then at some point it
kind of becomes on ironic and I'm just being an
annoying snobby guy.
Speaker 1: But absolutely, And there's Carl who says going to the cinema,
you know, like he's lives the pond or something.
Speaker 2: There's so many different terms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is, absolutely so for these previews. You know,
we got a certain Patreon question to piggyback on with it.
We'll get there at the end. But is there any
specific spot you kind of wanted to jump in here?
Do you want to just crack open that can of
tuna and just die right in fingers right for the middle.
Speaker 2: Crack open that can of tuna. I like that. Let's
let's let's crack open the tuna to pungeenth. It's it's smelly.
But when you put on that cracker, a little bit
of celery, a little bit, you know what, you know,
it tastes good. And that's how I'm feeling. But that's
how I'm feeling about Mother Mary. I'm ready to okay
that tuna up. I meant to look this up, but
Green Knights. This is from the director of Green Knight.
But my question is has he done a movie in
between Green Knight and now? Probably not right.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Green It's been a few years now.
Speaker 2: David Lowrys, I need to remember this guy's name. David
Lowry is his name, and they come out that was
twenty twenty one. He did a short. He did Peter
Penn and Wendy. He did it short. He did it
two episodes of Skeleton Crew. Oh were those episodes good?
Speaker 1: I don't know which episode. I really was iffy on
that show. There was one or two episodes that really
stood out to me. So maybe that here's episodes.
Speaker 2: Maybe they were It's all coming back together here. I
don't know if this Peter Pan and Wendy thing that
came out twenty twenty three, and I don't remember hearing
much about that, but.
Speaker 1: Travis watched it. I think Taylor either was interested or
about told.
Speaker 2: Okay, But I mean Green Knight really great movie, super
weird and stylish, cinematography, outstanding vibes, immaculate. Right, It's it's
such a great movie. And the trailer for Mother Mary's
new one is, uh, it's getting me in that same
sort of way where it starts out in one place
and it feels like a kind of buy the book's thing.
But I just the cinematographer that was great, the certain
camera angles they had. There's this one section where the
two main characters are in this huge like studio warehouse
or whatever it is, and they're like really far across
the room from each other, and you start with like
just a huge wide shot of actresses name that I
can't remember, pat woman Hathway. Yeah, you start with Hathway,
and then the camera angle switches and it's an also
similar huge wide shot of the other main actress that
I haven't seen anything before. And then we go to
like a close close up of Pathway close up with
the other characters. It's almost like they start really far
away and just slowly kind of getting pulled into each other.
Just little touches like that I thought were really great
in here, and it's it's it's great if a trailer
can can do that as well, just show off like
the chops and like the lighting and like the visuals
and like Hathway's hairs looking kind of weird, which throws
me off in like a good way. So I and
then and then the trailer takes a turn a preview. Sorry,
it takes a turn in the second half where you
get into like this is not a ghost story, this
is a song, and it's like, what the fuck does
that mean? I have no idea what that means, but
I can't wait to find out. I think this looks outstanding.
I really really like the look of this one, So
consider me intrigued in Mother Mary, which I feel like
if you read out like the synopsis of what this is,
I don't know if it would be a Dylan kind
of movie. But when I was seeing that visual flare
to it and some of the acting, and like the
way these characters that interacting with each other in the chemistry,
I'm I'm I'm very much in on this one.
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, I am not sold on this one yet.
I don't think this trailer, I don't know. I think
it had all of those things that you listed, but
for whatever reason, they just weren't striking me the right way.
Like I just wasn't getting a major reaction out of
this trailer, even though while I was watching it, I'm like,
this looks crazy. It was reminding me a little bit
of like Black Swan, that type of element where like
there's there's like our art in there. There's performance, but
there's some like really dark shit going on. I imagine there's
there's some freaky stuff in this film, and Hathaway in
a role that I just I don't know. I just
never pictured her being like a pop star type character.
So there's a lot of interesting things in there. But
forever reason, I just didn't get the reaction that maybe
I would have thought I would get. I think this
is one though that, like word of mouth will really
sell me on it, because this trailer didn't really but
like if people are just going off about it, like
I think it was a Nora. I didn't like love
the trailers about it, but like just the word of
mouth got me really intrigued. And then when I watched
I absolutely love that movie, so I could definitely see
this going that same route. Mikayla cole co E l
is the other actress in there. I haven't seen her
in anything, but I thought you looked really good in
this trailer.
Speaker 2: Also Schaeffer, Oh I did which hunter there? Yeah, she's
in there, but like it's kind of concerning to me.
It was like how she was in I think it
was kinds of kindness, right, and it's like you see
her in the trailer and it's like, oh, I can't
wait to see her in this your ghost movie. And
then she's just like has like two very small scenes
with no substance, and I was like kind of feel
like that's maybe what's going on here, Like I don't
know she's really in this whole lot or if she's
just there to like maybe sell a few tickets or something,
but hopefully she has like a notable role. But didn't
really show much in this in this preview.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I didn't even see her so and
I would recognize her face, so that's that's interesting. But yeah,
I'll keep an eye out for that movie. I don't
remember seeing a date on it.
Speaker 2: It was just like next.
Speaker 1: Spring ish this okay, Spring Chicken, Spring Chicken. Cool. I
will go to a trailer that I liked. Okay, I'm
gonna go how to Actually, no, I'm gonna go dead
Man's Wire here. This is why I took this name.
Lateral Tongue movement, Scars Guard Bill. That's there's so many
scars guards. I always get them confused. Bills got both
of his first Ellen is the liar. Uh. You know,
there's Alexander scars Guard, the North. I think I just
nail all of them. There's probably one brother that I'm forgetting.
Speaker 2: You nailed the scars Guard trio, the.
Speaker 1: Scars Guard Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, we need one more. We need one more
to fill out that.
Speaker 1: I feel like there is another one that I I
just don't know who he is.
Speaker 2: Just put Pennywise on there as a second.
Speaker 1: He's probably cast it in the Starch or the hell
Divers movie.
Speaker 2: It's possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a scars Guard name on on the
poster like that would sell tickets. Actually Alexander Scar's Guard
in there, I think I'm not I think I'm sold
on that now that I think about it.
Speaker 2: But get anyway three of them.
Speaker 1: What is this even called dead Man's Wire? Yeah? Starting
Bill scars Guard, which is he looks like a very
complicated individual. That isn't an interesting predicament. There's just a
lot of moving pieces to this trailer that just has
me intrigued. I think there's something about like a live
event that has like high stakes that just gets me intrigued.
Go check out my September five review. I was vibing
with that movie, and I feel like there's something similar
to that to hear shouts out to Taylor for knowing
the Man on a Ledge movie too, starring Jake Suley actually,
which is kind of funny that he's in that one.
I enjoyed that movie also, which is probably a really
bad movie, but it has that idea of just like
something's going on, all the news going on it and
there's some some underlying layers of intrigue, conspiracy, complicated just
storylines intermingle, and I think this movie has it. I
think there's just pretty damn big like al Patino's in here.
He's got an interesting tie I would imagine to kind
of the events that was going on. But I just
liked what I was seeing and the excitement was kind
of pulling me in a lot more than what let's say,
like Mother Mary preview was showing me. But no, I
really really like this trailer and I'm pretty darn intrigued.
And Bill scars Guard had some crazy tongue movement in there,
and one of the shots and it just I feel
like I was, like, have watched the trailer. I looked back,
and right when I look back, he was just doing
the tongue thing, and I'm like, WHOA Okay, here we are,
let's let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It kind of reminded me because I feel like
we had I think it was last year we had
The Crow and uh, boy boy kills the world? Is
that what that movie was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where he doesn't talk right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Scars guards in like his his
little freak era here. I mean, I feel like he's
always doing weird stuff. But something about those two movies
and this are like a trilogy.
Speaker 1: In my mind for some reason, like Rindhouse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's you know, he's he's getting type cast
and like whatever the fuck this is? And honest, I
haven't seen those other two, but I did not think
this looked good. I thought this really really goofy, I
really cheesy and not in like a good way. I
think Scarsbot is so talented, but I think maybe the
more and more I see from and I haven't seen
all these movies, so maybe I'm judging unfairly, but I
feel like maybe he's just a really good support or
a really good villain. And I don't know if he
is a great leading man. I think obviously they're putting
many roles where he's getting to be a weird guy.
And maybe that works. So I don't know. Maybe I
just gotta give these movies a chance. But this, this
trailer at least did not did not do the trick
for me unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's totally fair. Also, Dakree Montgomery was in here,
which I feel like I haven't seen him in anything
a long time. He was part of my favorite season
of Stranger Things when he read the Billy character and
one that I just thought he was gonna blow up
and just was gonna be appearing and everything, which really
didn't happen. It's it's a little bit unfortunate. But who knows.
Maybe this will be his big breakthrough movie. I doubt it.
It seems like he's a pretty minor role in it.
But I digress. M uh you take us away.
Speaker 2: Sure, let's get how to make a killing out of
the way. So obviously this has a Powell and quality
in it. Who are too, you know, top tier movie
stars right now? People I like watching on in stuff
very charismatic. But god damn, what a just lifeless trailer
this was for me? Like, I just think it looks
so so uninteresting and like somehow they are sapped of
their normal charisma. Also, whatever is going on with Quality's
wig in this No, it's no good. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like it right there, that's like tomb Raider Wig.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a man. I have not thought about
the tomb Raider Wig in a in a year or
two that that was a good throw. Oh my god,
I gotta watch that movie again. I probably shouldn't not
just pledge to leave it in my in my mind.
But yeah, I don't know. I I just I'm kind
of surprised at how uninterested I was in this based
off just that cast of it. But I don't know.
I guess there's like an interesting idea here, but it's like,
I don't know, is this trying to be like super funny,
you're super serious and it feels like it's kind of
neither's just something in between. So I don't know. I don't.
I don't think i'll be seeing this. And I feel
like both times like dramatically like leaves the room and
says like, well, don't kill anyone, or this is how
you make a killing or wherever the fucking it just
like does not land very well.
Speaker 1: It's like the CSI intro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, am I where are we aligned
on this one, like we or are we unaligned again?
Speaker 1: I feel like we're kind of mixing a little bit.
The Venn diagram is meeting somewhere in the middle. I yeah,
I see where you're coming from. I feel like initially
it was like a shotgun blast of like Glint Palell,
Margaret Quality and then like assassinating members were like just
some of the locations too. I'm like a little bit
of a little bit of Agent forty seven vibes here.
I'm not gonna lie, a little bit of a little
bit of hipmnisms. I'm just thinking about seven targets that
he has to take out when he takes out the
one chap on the yacht. It just seemed like a
hit man level to me. But all that being said,
the more the trailer went on, I definitely was losing
my glimmer. I was becoming a little bit more tarnished.
As I'll use an elder ring term. I just feel like, yeah,
it's missing some special stuff in there. Which it's kind
of weird to get that when when I have a
parent like Glenn Powell and Margaret Qualley, like I just
feel like them alone, I would just be like man,
star power, like I need to see this project now.
But really, unfortunately, as the trailer was going on, I
kind of was losing that. So probably a sign that
it will be very forgettable. But who knows, Maybe it's
just a bad trailer. Yeah, I don't know. I'm like
interested enough that I kind of want to be sold
on it, Like I'm not going to just completely write
it off, and I'm definitely not gonna seek this one out.
I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, we'll see fair enough, fair enough, where
are we going? Next to left?
Speaker 1: We got two here, I'll save the What I think
was the shortest trailer to the very end is that
one even a trailer, might that one might be not
a trailer nor a preview, might just be a teaser. Okay,
so then I don't know. I guess I'll just go there.
Then Obsession is that the one. I was kind of
surprised Travis through this in here.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I didn't think there's anything here at all to really judge.
I didn't know who this actor was.
Speaker 2: It was like, Okay, you don't like the concept, you
don't like the hook?
Speaker 1: Do I like it? Do I like it? I don't
really know exactly, because it's like, I guess that's what
the teaser supposed to do. It gives you a little
breadcrumb to make you think about it, like just the
very base concept of what you would be seeing through
a teaser. I guess it's not something that's been done
like a million times, but who knows. Maybe I'll see
the trailer and I'll think opposite. So okay, whatever, It's
given me a positive reading on right now. So I
was trying to be hateful, but you you you convinced
me to be honest, and yeah, it's it's somewhat intriguing, yeah,
but uh yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I don't blame you, right, like, yeah, this this
being a teaser, you don't get a whole lot. But
for me, it was just introducing, like, okay, what is
the premise? What is the hook of this movie? And
I I think it's kind of fun, Like there's this
weird company seemingly that he has, like this weird thing
that has you know, fine print on it all that
it's this thing where I can grant you seemingly a
wish or maybe you can buy multiple these and have
multiple wishes. This guy clearly has wished that this girl
who knows what the connection is? Were they together before?
Is it just someone he's been, you know, fawning over
whatever it is. He wishes that she would love him
probably you know, I want her to love me more
than she's loved anything. Maybe he says something like that
when he does his wish, and it seems like it's
like just you know, the movie's called Obsessed, so clearly
she's like too intense with it, so he wants to
take that and just like dial it down a little bit.
So I don't know, I think that seems like a
fun concept to me. Obviously, like the thumb nail of
this is like him all battered improved, So like, clearly
we're going places with this. You're right, I don't know
who this actor is, but yeah, I don't know. I
like this weird, shady company that can grant you a wish.
It's almost like the substance kind of thing where it's
like this just a weird company. You don't know who's
on the other side of the phone, you know, just
kind of this this mystery of it. So yeah, there
is there's you know, we'll have to see what the
actual delivery of this is the execution of it. But
I like the I like the hook of this one.
So this, this trailer teaser, whatever you want to call it,
it worked for me. I'm intrigued, right cool h.
Speaker 1: I have nothing really else to say. I guess I'll
judge the next trailer.
Speaker 2: Please please preview, so preview.
Speaker 1: This is definitely not a preview. This was a pre
preview for what it's seen for run time of the
teaser itself. We're going back to Silent Hill here, We're
going returning to Silent Hill. Uh have you seen any
of the Silent movie Silent Hill movies?
Speaker 2: I've not double checked that, nor have I played any
of the games. It is a blind spot for me
for sure.
Speaker 1: Are you looking to change that? You know you've been
diving through risen evils, you've been.
Speaker 2: I want to play the games, but I don't know
if I want to go see a low budget, janky
ass movie.
Speaker 1: They are ass. I will agree with that.
Speaker 2: The CGI not looking good in this in this trailer.
Speaker 1: Budge Modern one lighting this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one we're talking about here did not did
not do the trick for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I I love Silent Hill for what I've
researched on what the world is and and universe. I
played a little bit of the games, but I mostly
just kind of experienced the game vicariously through either like
a cousin that was playing it, that was watching over
his shoulder, or just like YouTube deep dives, because I'll
just get intrigued by something and just just do that.
So I and I have seen all the movies. Actually,
I just googled and checked unless there's some crazy straight
to DVD like basically like like there's two films Silent
Hill in two thousand and six, which has the Great
Sean Bean in it.
Speaker 2: If you being I don't, I don't even know. If
I knew that there was actually movies in the past,
I feel like that's.
Speaker 1: Live action movies with real actors. Kit Harrington is in
the original. Also the Great John Snow.
Speaker 2: Okay, Kit Harrington hell divers Okay, that fits that clearly
has a thing for video games. Maybe.
Speaker 1: Oh and the ginger Beard guy, the Wildling what's his name, ginger.
Speaker 2: Beard guy, wild.
Speaker 1: Ginger man. Let's see what my Google gives me.
Speaker 2: Is this a Game of Thrones guy?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, Torman Giants bane man, he's a hell diver
if I've ever seen one Christopher Hivju, it's probably some
Norwegian name. Oh he is Norwegian. Look at that.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good, sniped, absolutely sniped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a hell diver right there. Get back to
sign Hill though, I because this was in the era too,
when I was like obsessed with the world. I was
like going through all like the Lore videos, and I'm like,
there's movies. Holy fuck, I gotta watch these movies absolutely
awful and it was bad too. I watched the second
one not realizing it was the second one, and then
I watched the first one, and like the second one,
it made no sense because it's picking off where or
picking up where the second the first one ended, of course,
and like there's a character that's older that returns in
the one that's not even called return to sign Hill. Honestly,
they're both hot garbage. And I had seen these like
before podcasts. I think I think this was like a
year before the podcast started. I watched these. I don't
really have a critical eye of movies. I was pretty
much vibe in with anything, and I really didn't like these,
and man, turned aside Hill, this looks like a return
to form of those previous movies of really bad. I
don't know. I I don't want to be too pessimistic,
but as someone that's like kind of interested at least
in that world, I'm so interested in this movie. It
it just doesn't seem like it's gonna be good. I
would be surprised if there's positive buzz. If there is
positive buzz, I will probably check this out, just because
I've kind of you know, I've gone sixty six percent
of the way through the franchise.
Speaker 2: So crowned of the trilogy, also well rounded out. Yeah,
it's they have.
Speaker 1: The nurse characters in there. Yeah, like they have some
some icon familiar Yeah, some familiar iconic villains in here.
My favorite part about it was kind of the endother
trailer when the music theme plays, because I feel like
stein Hill is just one of those themes where it
just it just sinks into your bones and the atmosphere
is something that's just really really magical and the worst
terrifying most Yeah, just the most terrifying sense. And I
didn't really get that out of this trailer. I don't know.
I was just overall kind of uninterested across the board,
So a little bit unfortunate there. But yeah, that's where
I lie. Yeah, it's too bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, assuming this movie is not that good just
because yeah, I feel like the games, like we had
the remake for Silent Hell recently, which was really well received.
Silent F came out this year. People are loving that game,
you know, nominated for a bunch of game awards, really
popular and all that. So yeah, it seems like the games,
after being in kind of a not so great place
for like fifteen years or whatever, and I'm finally haven't
a resurgence. It's too bad, Like this movie maybe isn't
going to continue that streak and raise the brand of it.
But I don't know. We'll see. Maybe we're wrong. But
just if your trailer's looking rough visually like this, that's
not usually a good sign. But you know, maybe there's
time to fix up some of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I would hope. Yeah, didn't see a release date on
that one, but I wasn't really looking for one.
Speaker 2: Maybe next Halloween or something, yeah, perhaps fit. Yeah, I
think I think Silent Hill F came out in October.
I think, so maybe they try and do that. We'll see.
That's all funny.
Speaker 1: Well that's all we got for previews, So we're gonna
fly on over to the great Mattie Seggs, who dropped
us his golden Patreon question. Can you rank the trailers
in terms of your excitement for the projects? Are you
rare to go on your list?
Speaker 2: Yes? And no. It's hard because for me, there's three
at the bottom here. I think if you're doing Maker
style equally crappy, you know. So it's like, I don't know,
I don't know what what to do here. But number
one for me is easily mother Mary talked about that
big hype on that one. Number two, I'd go obsession.
I like the hook, I'm I'm I'm intrigued. Number three,
Oh frick, I guess I'll go dead Man's Wire. I
guess I'll go dead Man's Wire. Maybe that's maybe that's
the third most hype. One, I'll go how to make
a Killing? Number four just because quality's in there, even
though she has a weird wig. And then Silent Hill
sorry video game movie, but you're a bottom of the
heap for me, So that's gonna be my number five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, completely fair list. I'm gonna start bottom up methinks here. Okay,
I just kind of realized how low tier these these
trailers kind of are, honestly, because I'm looking at my
bottom and it's kind of the finest harvest, the finest
hard harvest by any means. I'm gonna go return as
down Hill right dead last, and then just above that,
I guess I'm gonna go how to make a killing here?
Top session was lower, but you kind of opened my
eyes to it. You kind of made me think about
the plot a little bit, and I like wanted to
just hate on it, but then You're like, well, isn't intriguing,
And I'm like, well, I kind of have been thinking
about that concept. So yeah, I like because of the trailer,
not just in general, you know, make someone love you.
So yeah, I guess if you turn us oud Hill
how to make a killing, I'll go obsession here, and
then Mother Mary and then my favorite being a dead
Man's wife, Red Man number one. That one had me
going in the right flow directions. I didn't know what
to say there, so it Maddie, give us your list.
What do you think about these trailers?
Speaker 2: Man? Are you? Are you excited for? These?
Speaker 1: Are the Indianapolis Colts gonna win the Super Bowl this year?
Let us know Maddie. That's his.
Speaker 2: I don't know that's his.
Speaker 1: That's his team. Definitely. I think I'm down to Pizza. Also,
I think it's all but confirmed now I am gonna
be officially Travis Pizza is my team. Yeah, sucks, donkey
balls and you're not gonna be making the playoffs this
year unfortunately, but hopefully Travisten doesn't.
Speaker 2: Hear this part, so he will he hears everything, he
really does.
Speaker 1: He probably just woke up.
Speaker 2: These about me.
Speaker 1: It just sleeps in his fucking coffin, like he's not Sparatu.
Speaker 2: Whoa Jesus, there you go, just words, not mine, Travis.
Speaker 1: You know anything else say on this fine second day
of the two of.
Speaker 2: The no this was, you know, not the most crazy topics,
but I think we managed to call together a pretty
fun discussion here, and you know, the standing definitely changed
the vibe. So the first I would say, a good
successful first standing cast.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're playing like the only game I'm
thinking of right now is like Diablo two. You know
you're playing Diablo two. You got your run mode going,
and you run out of stamina and your character can't
run anymore. That's why I feel right now I feel
like I'm starting to just like my vertebrae are starting
to compact a little bit, and.
Speaker 2: I'm just Jesus, yeah, I'm just getting ready.
Speaker 1: To sit down here pretty soon. So definitely couldn't do
a three hour episode. Standing uh hour was kind of
pushing it, I think, right the fifty nine minute mark,
I was kind of looking for my chair, but I
was motivated. I was staring into your eyes, and you
held me up when I wanted to sit down. So
I appreciate it. Thank you so much for being on
the Standing Adventure with me. Absolutely, Dylan. All Right, ladies
and gentlemen, tune in.
Speaker 2: It next time.
Speaker 1: Check out the I was gonna say, check out the
schedule for the next episodes, but that's what I do.
Keep your eyes on the feeds. Everything you need to
know links down below. We love you, see you later, byebye,