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Speaker 2: for it, all right. So the commissioner of the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: I feel like this is the first time we've really heard,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of direct. Maybe I just haven't been
Speaker 2: paying attention, But when it comes to those that are
Speaker 2: talking about the playoff, I feel like it's mostly just
Speaker 2: SEC coaches and Greg Sanky And maybe it's just because
Speaker 2: they get way more of a platform to do so,
Speaker 2: but I I mean, I haven't I haven't seen any
Speaker 2: coach from I haven't seen a coach from the non
Speaker 2: SEC level of the power for meaning ACC, Big Ten
Speaker 2: in Big twelve. I haven't really heard or seen any
Speaker 2: quotes that has had those coaches basically just calling out
Speaker 2: the SEC for just trying to, you know, just have
Speaker 2: it catered to them. Despite I mean, look, the SEC
Speaker 2: has always been has always proven to be one of,
Speaker 2: if not the best league. And look, there's years where
Speaker 2: maybe they don't produce as much and there are some
Speaker 2: results that make you question if they're deserving of this
Speaker 2: benefit of doubt. But even with that said, in those years,
Speaker 2: I find it hard to believe that from top to
Speaker 2: bottom they still haven't been the best league in the
Speaker 2: country because again, they're just they've got so much depth
Speaker 2: and I don't see that changing. So I mean, I
Speaker 2: would love for a commissioner from the ACC Big twelve
Speaker 2: or Big ten to come out and say some of
Speaker 2: the Big ten's actually doing it. I think like Tony Patiti,
Speaker 2: is hey handling it the right way. He clearly is
Speaker 2: not going to be against a format that gives the
Speaker 2: Big ten to four automatic spots regardless of what of
Speaker 2: what happens, but he's not as outspoken about it. In fact,
Speaker 2: he hasn't said a whole lot, whereas Sankie has really
Speaker 2: played this in a way that's probably again I was
Speaker 2: getting ready to say something that maybe because this has
Speaker 2: been at least the fourth or fifth time in the
Speaker 2: last week or so when we've talked about the potential
Speaker 2: expansion of the college football Playoff on what it looks like,
Speaker 2: where I get to the point where I'm about to
Speaker 2: criticize Sankie, But I don't know if that's fair because
Speaker 2: he's not the commissioner of the college football world. He
Speaker 2: just is kind of perceived to be that because he's
Speaker 2: a powerful guy and he's really good at his job,
Speaker 2: so you know, he'll do whatever he can behind the
Speaker 2: scenes to make everything better for his conference and it
Speaker 2: not be as convenient or great for other conferences. And
Speaker 2: I think because he's viewed as some powerful guy that
Speaker 2: does that, you know, has the future of the college
Speaker 2: football world in his hands, but he doesn't. He's the
Speaker 2: commission of one conference, so he's played both sides to her.
Speaker 2: He's really been heavy handed in doing his job, which
Speaker 2: are something wrong with that, But then whenever it is
Speaker 2: it is portrayed, is that if he's trying to be
Speaker 2: greedy and he's the bad guy, he'll come out on
Speaker 2: you know, he'll come out and defend himself. So I
Speaker 2: just kind of feel like the whole thing has been
Speaker 2: the SEC being outspoken in regards to what needs to happen,
Speaker 2: as if like they're they're the ones being wronged here
Speaker 2: is if there's some kind of a conspiracy against them,
Speaker 2: which is nonsense. But you know what, when you control
Speaker 2: the narrative, you control the messaging. Maybe you speaking into
Speaker 2: existence in the eyes of some, but I mean even
Speaker 2: some of the SEC coaches that clearly are going to
Speaker 2: be hanks for the SEC. I mean I think Lank
Speaker 2: Kevin is the one who came out and said that
Speaker 2: he is, and he hopes that they just seed it
Speaker 2: one through twelve or one through sixteen and it's just
Speaker 2: the best teams regardless of your conference, and that to me,
Speaker 2: would be the way to go. However, what I don't
Speaker 2: think many people are thinking about is that if you
Speaker 2: do that, why would anybody even want to play in
Speaker 2: a conference championship game? Because it's nice to win a
Speaker 2: conference championship. If you're there, you're gonna want to try
Speaker 2: to win. But if you're really good, you would rather
Speaker 2: just avoid a When I say really good, I mean
Speaker 2: you're legitimately one of the teams of the sixteen, and
Speaker 2: there usually aren't many they can say that realistically, you
Speaker 2: are going to be competing for a national champions if
Speaker 2: you're a national championship caliber program. I just think that
Speaker 2: the conference championship, rather it be acc SEC whatever, it's
Speaker 2: just gonna be in the way because you wouldn't trade
Speaker 2: that championship in your league for even a chance to
Speaker 2: play for a national championship. Right Like, a conference championship
Speaker 2: is important. Nobody would tell you that they don't matter
Speaker 2: at least as of right now. But if it genuinely
Speaker 2: doesn't do anything for you other than maybe, I guess
Speaker 2: give you a chance to boost your resume before you
Speaker 2: get to selection Sunday, but it could also hurt you.
Speaker 2: Right Like, it's like if you've got of Goliath and
Speaker 2: you are let's just look at it this way. If
Speaker 2: you are Clemson of old and they're just absolutely dominant
Speaker 2: and they're looking like the best team and it's not
Speaker 2: even close. They're being talked about as a team that
Speaker 2: could be one of the best college football teams we've
Speaker 2: ever seen. Let's just say hypothetically that happens and Louisville
Speaker 2: is in a spot to get one of those last
Speaker 2: bids to the sixteen team tournament, but they already have
Speaker 2: a loss to a Let's see, let's say they lost
Speaker 2: to Bill Belichick in North Carolina hypothetically and Belichick the
Speaker 2: hoodie he got them, and Louisville now has that blemish.
Speaker 2: But they're in a good spot. But they're about to
Speaker 2: go to the ACC championship game and they're likely going
Speaker 2: to be twenty one point dogs because Clemson's just that good. Again,
Speaker 2: hypothetically speaking here, if you're Jeff, I mean, yeah you would.
Speaker 2: I mean, you wouldn't back out of the game. You
Speaker 2: would never do that. But like it's you kind of
Speaker 2: wish you weren't in the position. You wish that maybe
Speaker 2: a tiebreaker didn't break your way, because you'd be able
Speaker 2: to then avoid that data point that could take you
Speaker 2: out of the playoff. So, I mean, they still need
Speaker 2: to have some kind of an incentive when it comes
Speaker 2: to this postseason playoff for those who win their conference championship,
Speaker 2: or it will become what the bowl games have become
Speaker 2: in the eyes of some. Now again that's not always
Speaker 2: like there's gonna be some that are fighting to get
Speaker 2: in with a potential win. So it won't be that
Speaker 2: way every year. But if you've got the SEC championship
Speaker 2: down to Georgia and Alabama and they're number one and
Speaker 2: number two, neither probably cares to play the game they're
Speaker 2: going to because you're not going to back out of it.
Speaker 2: But a win, what does it do? It might move
Speaker 2: you from one to two. A loss might move you
Speaker 2: to two to one, and you could you know, you
Speaker 2: could get hurt, like you just don't have a whole
Speaker 2: lot to gain or lose. And I know what some
Speaker 2: of you are thinking, Well, I mean you could hang
Speaker 2: a banner, right, not many SEC championship banners have been
Speaker 2: hung by certain programs. I get all that, but it's
Speaker 2: not like, let me give you an example, if they
Speaker 2: take away any value in winning these other than just
Speaker 2: saying you did it and having that accomplishment, that's where
Speaker 2: you get into the conference tournaments in basketball to where
Speaker 2: they don't really mean a whole lot unless I mean
Speaker 2: the committee, by the way, has told us that right
Speaker 2: like we've seen it. I mean, Louisville played in the
Speaker 2: championship game in the ACC this past season against Duke,
Speaker 2: who is a one seed, and if they didn't beat
Speaker 2: Stanford and nin Clemson in the first two games of
Speaker 2: the tournament, would they even have gotten in. I mean,
Speaker 2: I say that kind of jokingly, but I mean the
Speaker 2: committee has been pretty consistent. Yeah, you'll get an auto
Speaker 2: bit if you get in, but we don't really care
Speaker 2: what you do when it comes to those tournaments because
Speaker 2: we've already probably put the bracket together by that. So
Speaker 2: other than bid steelers, it's they're kind of other than
Speaker 2: bid stealing. There's somewhat not useless, but there's not a
Speaker 2: ton of value there from the good leagues. That's what
Speaker 2: the conference championship would turn into in football if there's
Speaker 2: not some level of incentive. So I don't really know
Speaker 2: what the perfect scenario is. I think the best I've
Speaker 2: heard is to give auto bids two conference championships, but
Speaker 2: it is no longer entitled you to a guaranteed top
Speaker 2: four spot where you get to host a game and
Speaker 2: get a buy or where you get to get a
Speaker 2: buy not I guess the only people that host games
Speaker 2: in the first first year of the expanded playoff was
Speaker 2: those who had the better seed in those first round
Speaker 2: games before you got to the Elite eight. So back
Speaker 2: to what I was initially going to get to, is
Speaker 2: Brett Yormack, who is your mark, I should say, he's
Speaker 2: the commissioner of the Big twelve. He says he wants
Speaker 2: five automatic qualifiers and eleven at large spots for the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six playoff and wants an end to con
Speaker 2: considering multiple auto qualifiers. One playoff proposal. One playoff proposal
Speaker 2: gives the Big ten in the SEC four auto I'm
Speaker 2: ready to hear from Brett McMurphy. So this is not
Speaker 2: an outlandish thing to say. This isn't even really like,
Speaker 2: this isn't even like a strong statement. This is just,
Speaker 2: you know, this is just I think what a lot
Speaker 2: of people are probably thinking, which is that, yeah, you
Speaker 2: give auto qualifiers, meaning the Big towelve, the ACC, the SEC,
Speaker 2: and the Big Ten, their champ would automatically get in,
Speaker 2: and there'll be one automatic spot given to the best
Speaker 2: team that is not from the power level meaning those
Speaker 2: four conferences, and then you just put eleven at large spots.
Speaker 2: I mean that that makes too much sense to not do.
Speaker 2: Why would we not do that? Because Sankie and I
Speaker 2: guess the Big Ten, Tony Petiti they want, They want
Speaker 2: to just be given those they want half the field,
Speaker 2: regardless of what happens. Just the more you say it
Speaker 2: out loud again, it's just eliminating the true competition of
Speaker 2: the of the sport. Right. I mean not to say
Speaker 2: that anybody would just get in, but I again say
Speaker 2: it out loud. Guaranteeing spots for conferences before anybody plays
Speaker 2: a game, is you admitting it's quite literally a fact
Speaker 2: that you are just stating that, because of what you've
Speaker 2: always done in previous seasons, this is the way it's
Speaker 2: gonna be. When last I checked, you mean you should
Speaker 2: never consider what was done a year ago or what
Speaker 2: was done thirty years ago as far as how you
Speaker 2: determine what a team is in what they're deserving of
Speaker 2: in that current season. Yes, sure, brand is always going
Speaker 2: to be with you, it's gonna matter, but not to
Speaker 2: this extent to where, yeah, well the sec has always
Speaker 2: just been great, So we want four, the Big ten
Speaker 2: gets four, and then you guys can do it. You know,
Speaker 2: you can fight for seconds, which again it'll probably play
Speaker 2: out that way. It'll probably play out to where they're
Speaker 2: still gonna continuously get way more teams in than any
Speaker 2: other league, But why not just earn it instead of
Speaker 2: just being handed to you. Here's a quote from Brett Yormack.
Speaker 2: I'm about fairness. There's a lot of conversations about aqs.
Speaker 2: We want to earn it on the field. I think
Speaker 2: five plus eleven format does that. It's fair, it's what
Speaker 2: our fans want. They don't want an individual they want
Speaker 2: they don't want an invitational, they want a true playoff system,
Speaker 2: and we have that right now. We need to put
Speaker 2: these multiple aqs and take out of the of the
Speaker 2: conversation and focus on what's right with college football. I
Speaker 2: think five plus eleven does that, and that's our preference,
Speaker 2: that is everybody's preference. And in fact, the Big Ten,
Speaker 2: unless I'm missing it, they're not outspoken about needing four
Speaker 2: automatic spots. They're not going to fight against it, I'm sure,
Speaker 2: but it seems like maybe they have a little bit
Speaker 2: of awareness. They can read the room that, Yeah, why
Speaker 2: why would anybody agree to that? And that's my thing, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what power or leverage anybody truly has here.
Speaker 2: I mean, clearly the Big Ten in the SEC, if
Speaker 2: they wanted, they could just do their own thing. But
Speaker 2: they wouldn't. I mean, that would be a successful thing
Speaker 2: as far as television, but like that would totally change
Speaker 2: college football. And I think people would still watch it,
Speaker 2: but like it would change it so much that it
Speaker 2: really wouldn't be the same sport. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: that there'd be a lot I have notts right if
Speaker 2: we lived in a world where the Big ten and
Speaker 2: the SEC only competed with themselves and each other. I mean,
Speaker 2: Kentucky's winning what a game a year? Two a year?
Speaker 2: Like That's that's that, you know, as much as there's
Speaker 2: the big boys that that, you know, maybe throw that
Speaker 2: out there as a as a threat that we don't
Speaker 2: really need you because we're the big dogs. You're lucky
Speaker 2: we let you play at our party. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: kind of how they treat it. Right. As much as
Speaker 2: that is said by the big dogs, there's not many
Speaker 2: big dogs in either of those leagues. You know, you
Speaker 2: got many programs like let me give you an example,
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin and ole Miss really good. Their ceiling is
Speaker 2: not as high as the big dogs. In fact, Lane
Speaker 2: kiffn put together the best roster ole Miss on paper
Speaker 2: reportedly had last year, and they were good, but not
Speaker 2: good enough. I mean, if they had to play more
Speaker 2: games against everybody from those two leagues and didn't play
Speaker 2: any of the Patsis, didn't play wake Forest, who you know,
Speaker 2: did suck last year, and bought out of that series,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't even be in the conversation for doing something special.
Speaker 2: So I'm of the belief that common sense will prevail
Speaker 2: here and it'll probably be five plus eleven with five
Speaker 2: automatic bids eleven at large, and sank You'll play victim
Speaker 2: and say that because of this, they're not going to
Speaker 2: go from eight games in the SEC to nine, and
Speaker 2: a lot of people will believe it. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe Sanki is ultimately now that I really have been
Speaker 2: able to read how he's handled this current situation with
Speaker 2: the expanded playoff, and again he's not really doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2: But the SEC has a level of delusion that is
Speaker 2: just not justified. It's not warranted. They are the best conference,
Speaker 2: but they the way in which they stretch that is
Speaker 2: just insane. And there's no better season than the woman
Speaker 2: we just had that can give you proof of that.
Speaker 2: So anyways, the way in which he's just I mean,
Speaker 2: the fact that he's even throwing out they should get
Speaker 2: four automatic. I mean, not many would even do that,
Speaker 2: but Sankie will because he's sanking He's good at his job.
Speaker 2: And I think that just more so spreads the delusion
Speaker 2: as far as the SEC thinking that they're the NFL
Speaker 2: compared to everybody else. And yes, you could be the
Speaker 2: best league, but it's not to the level that you
Speaker 2: think it is. And even if you are even better
Speaker 2: than you think you are, what would mean that you're
Speaker 2: entitled to spots based off of what previous teams have done.
Speaker 2: I know I'm being very repetitive here, but why change now?
Speaker 2: I've probably done that for nine years, right, But it's
Speaker 2: also just it's maddening to me like that people get
Speaker 2: Like when you hear of those throwing out television audience
Speaker 2: as a potential qualifier for the playoff, go play in traffic?
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Speaker 2: Like? What? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I
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Speaker 2: true that I mean, even whenever you give a negative
Speaker 2: opinion about something, U of l as somebody who clearly
Speaker 2: as a fan, you have people just claiming your negative
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Speaker 2: people may agree with you, they don't want to hear
Speaker 2: it's their team. So I've dealt with that over the years.
Speaker 2: I can be negative and Austin again, that's why you
Speaker 2: and I are are on the same on the same
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Speaker 2: And I've always tried to do that as best I can.
Speaker 2: But I never thought I would ever be in a
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Speaker 2: was in the place that it was in. And I'll
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Speaker 2: say what I think I mean. That would be I mean,
Speaker 2: that was a chance for me to really look like
Speaker 2: a complete fraud. And maybe you think I am whatever,
Speaker 2: that's your opinion, but imagine like sugarcoating what that experience
Speaker 2: was and that to me. And again, I don't know
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Speaker 2: ten people like the fact that people thought I, you know,
Speaker 2: dedicated the vast majority of my life to just being
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, I mean I think it. I
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Speaker 2: because I remember, I remember, I mean, yeah, look, I
Speaker 2: learned a lot about myself during that that wasn't fun
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Speaker 2: he sucks as a coach because he sucked as a coach.
Speaker 2: It wasn't really up for opinion. The facts were there.
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Speaker 2: we do around here in this market. We talk college
Speaker 2: basketball a lot, a lot more than anybody else. And
Speaker 2: when you get a program like Louisville and that kind
Speaker 2: of a situation, it's gonna be talked about a lot.
Speaker 2: And you know what I dealt with. That really bothered
Speaker 2: me to where I started to wonder if I'm if
Speaker 2: I'm if I'm doing the job the way that I
Speaker 2: should be. Was that when people would call in and
Speaker 2: be like, come on, man, we get it, we suck,
Speaker 2: and I would just lose my mind on him, like
Speaker 2: what do you think? Like what do you think this is?
Speaker 2: You think we only talk about the team when they're good,
Speaker 2: like no, like we've had bad years, down years, we've
Speaker 2: had scandals, But that was a level of just the
Speaker 2: product and the overall life being sucked out of the program.
Speaker 2: And I mean, you got to address it, you got
Speaker 2: to be real about it. But that led to it
Speaker 2: wasn't as much towards the end, but the first year
Speaker 2: those that wanted to act like there weren't alarming signs
Speaker 2: from day one, that wanted to believe that. In the
Speaker 2: second year with the new roster, I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: a lot of people wanted to believe his excuses, even
Speaker 2: if they deep down I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know how many people, even those who claimed they
Speaker 2: did believe in Kenny Panna, I don't and they're worn't
Speaker 2: that many, honestly. But those who did claim that they did,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they even really did. They just
Speaker 2: they wanted to believe that they did, so they ran
Speaker 2: with it, and they became insufferable because they acted like
Speaker 2: if you call out a team sucking and being terrible,
Speaker 2: quite literally one of the worst teams in the country,
Speaker 2: that you're that you've got an agenda. No, it's just
Speaker 2: it's just using your eyeballs and brain. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: that's what it was. So it was. It wasn't a
Speaker 2: long stretch of that, but really at the end of
Speaker 2: year one and even in the summer the off season,
Speaker 2: that's where I like, I guess, people, just what do
Speaker 2: you mean? They got it? They got it? They got
Speaker 2: Dennis Evan's coming in, they got Trend Flowers, we got
Speaker 2: Tyler Johnson, and we've got Mike James back. I mean,
Speaker 2: Brandon Holly Hadfield. I mean that that whenever I would
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, we'll see, we'll see. But last
Speaker 2: year was you know, I think even if they had
Speaker 2: better player, they still would have been a mess, because
Speaker 2: you know, they weren't four and twenty eight based off talent.
Speaker 2: When I would say that, then it would be, oh, well,
Speaker 2: then you just must be a UK fan like what.
Speaker 2: And again, it wasn't like it was a huge amount
Speaker 2: of people, but it was a weird experience that I
Speaker 2: never envisioned happening. And uh, it was never it was
Speaker 2: never a troll job. And I think, honestly, it's a
Speaker 2: that's like a distant thing for people now because I
Speaker 2: used to really lean into it on the internet just
Speaker 2: because you know, why not. It's a toxic dump that
Speaker 2: the internet is. And you know, if people want to
Speaker 2: engage with you and you know, be a lunatic, be
Speaker 2: a lunatic, back to him and have some fun with him.
Speaker 2: That's really what it turned into during the overall Kenny
Speaker 2: Payne experience.
Speaker 3: But even during those times, I feel like it just
Speaker 3: got so even like the postgame shows and just like
Speaker 3: the daily shows, you just sounded so like thesent and
Speaker 3: size to it that it was. It feels like you.
Speaker 2: Couldn't it was therapy for me to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, like I don't I don't get why, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't say this for effect. I mean it, if
Speaker 2: I didn't have the platform daily and even postgame shows
Speaker 2: to get it out, I think it would it would
Speaker 2: consume me more than it than it did, if that
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 3: Like, and that's why listeners listen to you in the
Speaker 3: first place, because you are that gateway as.
Speaker 2: So so, and I appreciate you saying that, but this
Speaker 2: was nowhere near the extent. And I never called for
Speaker 2: this guy's job or called for him to be fired.
Speaker 2: But I also wasn't going to shake the pom Poms
Speaker 2: just because that's what people wanted. I would be honest
Speaker 2: and say, Scott Saderfield's not a bad coach, but he's
Speaker 2: not good enough for us to be where we want
Speaker 2: to be, and that was always the case. But he
Speaker 2: wasn't anything like Kenny Payne. So trust me, it's not
Speaker 2: like I'm comparing the two. But during that time, when
Speaker 2: I no longer had to worry about anything I said
Speaker 2: about UFL because we no longer had their games, I
Speaker 2: could just say what I wanted to be myself, and
Speaker 2: yet football was not anywhere near basketball. But still at
Speaker 2: times I would be pretty upset about Saturdfille because like
Speaker 2: he should have been better, Like he wasn't terrible, but
Speaker 2: he wasn't great either, And I think seeing that his
Speaker 2: only real success came with Bobby Patrino players like that
Speaker 2: kind of speaks to what he can do. And again,
Speaker 2: not to bag on him, but he was voted six.
Speaker 2: He was ranked the sixty third best coach at a
Speaker 2: sixty eight at the Power four level last week, and
Speaker 2: the you know, others at app State have actually been
Speaker 2: better than him since he left there. So what I'm
Speaker 2: getting at is just being honest and at times maybe
Speaker 2: it is too negative in the eyes of some and
Speaker 2: at times maybe you know, it just wasn't a side
Speaker 2: of me you hadn't heard yet. As far as just
Speaker 2: being negative, well one, well the football. When I got hired,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson was our quarterback and then we had you know,
Speaker 2: great success with Bobby until that final season and then
Speaker 2: it was terrible. It was over, and then we had
Speaker 2: we had sat for a year, momentum was good and
Speaker 2: then it fell apart and you got back on track.
Speaker 2: But never really, I mean, you probably would have been
Speaker 2: a perennial six and six, seven and five at best.
Speaker 2: Seventy five was a stealing with Sadderfield and with Jeff.
Speaker 2: Obviously we're in a little bit of a different world.
Speaker 2: I think seven and five will be a real outliers
Speaker 2: is you know what happened? How'd you go? Seven and five?
Speaker 2: So the reason it's kind of died off, and I
Speaker 2: rarely even think about that time where people would just
Speaker 2: be all over me about being negative and somebody accused
Speaker 2: me of being a UK fan, is because you know what,
Speaker 2: we got some good momentum right now. You got to
Speaker 2: hear me every day like a little kid excited on
Speaker 2: Christmas morning because Pat Kelsey brought us back to life.
Speaker 2: Jeff Brahm took us to the ACC Championship in his
Speaker 2: first game. So if you know, maybe I'm not your
Speaker 2: cup of tea. Maybe you prefer a little Homer in
Speaker 2: your dinner. Maybe you like somebody to just, you know,
Speaker 2: talk bad about your team because you just or into
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Maybe you're kinky like that. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but what you get from me is what
Speaker 2: I really feel, and that never made me feel more alive.
Speaker 2: I mean, we used to. I don't want to act like
Speaker 2: I ever had to completely really just I mean, I
Speaker 2: got lucky the first time I ever got a phone
Speaker 2: call about Hey, would you say Tom wanted me to
Speaker 2: a Tom wanted me to talk to you? Would you
Speaker 2: say the same? The first day that happened, no joke.
Speaker 2: Five days later he was effectively fired. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: I celebrated and that was a great thing, because you know,
Speaker 2: you don't want to see somebody's demise. But the timing
Speaker 2: worked out to where once Tom was gone, there wasn't
Speaker 2: as much really give a damn about like what we'd say,
Speaker 2: because I mean the fact that they used to worry
Speaker 2: about the way they didn't reminded me of like I
Speaker 2: heard stories that I'm like, there's no way this is true.
Speaker 2: And then I you know, once I started working here
Speaker 2: and you get a little bit more close with people
Speaker 2: at u of L, you realize that Tom jorg did
Speaker 2: really care. And I've always to my I've always believed
Speaker 2: that he did that based off the fact that he
Speaker 2: didn't have the ability to not make it personal because
Speaker 2: to him, U of L was not his, like he
Speaker 2: owns it, but he built it outside of our basketball program.
Speaker 2: Lovell Athletics, I mean knows a lot to Tom Jorge
Speaker 2: because the vision. I mean, you went from a commuter
Speaker 2: school with a hoops program and a team every now
Speaker 2: and then. In the other sports it would be decent,
Speaker 2: but I mean things are really different because of him.
Speaker 2: So I just look at it not as to where
Speaker 2: he he was, you know, he was an a hole.
Speaker 2: I just think it was impossible for him to not
Speaker 2: take you saying something about the programs that isn't positive.
Speaker 2: I mean literally, if you weren't gassing up the team,
Speaker 2: then he thought you were being like he took it personal,
Speaker 2: and that's a weird thing. To do. But I kind of,
Speaker 2: in my mind, I think that's why he was that way,
Speaker 2: is because he truly just cared so much and he
Speaker 2: put so much into it to where he didn't have
Speaker 2: the ability to not take it personal. If you said
Speaker 2: you didn't like a play call by one of his coordinators.
Speaker 2: I mean, he may not punch you. He wouldn't. I'm exaggerating,
Speaker 2: but he'd remember you said it. I'm not kidding, by
Speaker 2: the way, And there's people listening that have ever been
Speaker 2: in this position, you know what I'm talking about. Like,
Speaker 2: I heard stories for years before I got a chance
Speaker 2: to actually work here, and I thought, although it was exaggerating,
Speaker 2: there's no way. But no, I mean Benetti was essentially
Speaker 2: shunned because he, you know, said Patino probably should be
Speaker 2: fired because there was a prostitution situation at the team dorm.
Speaker 2: You thought he'd just said that, you know, he wanted
Speaker 2: kittens murdered. I mean, really in an outlantic thing to
Speaker 2: say in the grand scheme of things, right, yeah, prostitution scheme.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you probably got a clean house. Uh, it
Speaker 2: was different back then. You said that it meant you
Speaker 2: were you were an enemy. I mean the fact that
Speaker 2: him and Matt Jones. We were friendly on air, and
Speaker 2: you know, still are. They just don't run on the
Speaker 2: air together anymore at any point. I mean like that
Speaker 2: they were coming for his head. Not literally, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think you do know what I mean. So it was,
Speaker 2: you know, and look now that I'm moving to eight forty.
Speaker 2: He didn't mean I'm not going to talk sports, and
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean I'm not going to say what I think.
Speaker 2: It's just going to be, you know, in different doses
Speaker 2: and clearly a different format on a news talk station.
Speaker 2: All right, this time, we're really gonna get to what
Speaker 2: I was teasing about on the UH. And this is
Speaker 2: what I mean by that, Austin. You took me in
Speaker 2: a in a direction I wasn't heading on headed. I
Speaker 2: wasn't headed there, but you took me there, and I'm
Speaker 2: glad you did so. On the other side, John Mellencamp,
Speaker 2: he's upset with Pacer fans, and I don't really care
Speaker 2: that he is, but I don't. This gives me some
Speaker 2: bad energy and I don't want that. You got one
Speaker 2: game left to close it out, to get your ass
Speaker 2: back to the finals. Let's get it done. Shohn Cougar Mellencamp,
Speaker 2: who I like. I'm a fan. He's got some legendary hits.
Speaker 2: But you can't be spreading this bad energy when we're
Speaker 2: about we're about to potentially clench our ticket to the finals.
Speaker 2: Bro Come on now, JCM, will you think it quick break?
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Speaker 2: Is this a live version or just like the video version?
Speaker 3: No, it's I don't know what this is a video.
Speaker 3: I mean there is like visuals behind it, but it's
Speaker 3: not the official video.
Speaker 2: I can't. He's probably got a deeper catalog than like
Speaker 2: I realize. I'm sure people because he's such an iconic
Speaker 2: musician that I think there's probably I mean, there's probably
Speaker 2: people who can who can list off twenty five or
Speaker 2: more songs of his just because again, like he's I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a reason he still is. If he has a show,
Speaker 2: it won't be at a big arena this day and age,
Speaker 2: but if he has a show really anywhere, there's enough
Speaker 2: people still that'll show up because he's he's John Cougar Mellencamp, right,
Speaker 2: Like for me, Pink Houses, Jack and Diane Hurts, so
Speaker 2: good is great. I mean he's had. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I'm looking here now and he's got I mean, there's
Speaker 2: there's more than I'm there's more of his songs than
Speaker 2: I now that I'm looking at it, than I even realized.
Speaker 2: But again, I'm sure people know way more than I do.
Speaker 2: But anyways, he is a I mean, when you think
Speaker 2: of John Cougar Mellencamp, other than all you know, all
Speaker 2: the music, you probably think of him being a proud
Speaker 2: Indiana hoosier and his man like his his his music
Speaker 2: kind of sound like it kind of sounds like Indiana
Speaker 2: like I just think of the Indian like in Indiana's scene,
Speaker 2: you know, over the heartland and the you know, the
Speaker 2: big fields that you see on those long drives up
Speaker 2: north north on I sixty five, and you know, you
Speaker 2: get off an exit and there's not a whole lot
Speaker 2: there but a lot of fields. In fact, that's exactly
Speaker 2: where he's from, and that in that area that's right
Speaker 2: just north of here, which by the way, I my
Speaker 2: my aunt Linda, she was she was at w k
Speaker 2: U around the time that he was. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think they're around the same age, so he he wasn't
Speaker 2: a known name just yet by any means, but you know,
Speaker 2: he was the guy who liked to party and bring
Speaker 2: his guitar and he would jam for people. Well he
Speaker 2: I think. I think the story is this, My aunt
Speaker 2: Linda had a either a sorority sister or a friend
Speaker 2: in college many many years ago that was from Seymour
Speaker 2: and they had to get together. And he didn't go
Speaker 2: to WBKAU obviously, but he came and brought his guitar
Speaker 2: and like performed at the party, like just around like
Speaker 2: a group of people. But he wasn't John Mellencamp, the
Speaker 2: celebrity at the time. He was just a guy who,
Speaker 2: you know, people thought was good and it was a
Speaker 2: different time then. So yeah, she shared that story with
Speaker 2: me many years ago. I thought that was super cool
Speaker 2: because to be able to say you heard that guy
Speaker 2: in that setting long before he became John Mellencamp, Like
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty damn cool. But anyways, he's upset with
Speaker 2: the pacers, and I don't think of the Pacers when
Speaker 2: I think of Mellencamp, but again, if you do, I
Speaker 2: get it. But I think of Indiana. You know, the
Speaker 2: Hoosiers because he's oftentimes court sided in Bloomington. I think
Speaker 2: he actually lives in Bloomington still. But he put this
Speaker 2: out on his Twitter account, which is a very very
Speaker 2: very very poorly put like I don't know if his
Speaker 2: grandkid did it or what, but it's a picture of
Speaker 2: him and I guess his wife at the game and
Speaker 2: it just got text over at it. It's like hard
Speaker 2: to reach. Just look, it looks really unprofessional. But anyways,
Speaker 2: here's the message he wanted to put out on all
Speaker 2: days to do it. It's you seeing it too, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Knicks Pacers games. I mean, let's be real. It
Speaker 2: sounds like an old man that doesn't know how to
Speaker 2: use social media, is it not? In his message here?
Speaker 2: His tone also sounds like an old man who just
Speaker 2: isn't quite clear with the current climate in sports. And
Speaker 2: also either he just is old enough to not give
Speaker 2: it down, which if that's the case, respect, or he
Speaker 2: just doesn't understand that this is going to be a
Speaker 2: wildly unpopular take and he's gonna get roasted. I mean,
Speaker 2: this has two point eight million views and it's only
Speaker 2: been on the internet for a few hours. But this
Speaker 2: is what he said. The Knicks Pacers games have been
Speaker 2: very entertaining for anyone who likes basketball or sports. I
Speaker 2: attended game Boer in Indianapolis, Who's your Hospitality? I was
Speaker 2: embarrassed when somebody, under whose direction I don't know, called
Speaker 2: out some of the people who had made the trip
Speaker 2: from New York to support their team and in turn
Speaker 2: support our team. The audience booed these people. I'd say
Speaker 2: that was not who's your hospitality? One could only say
Speaker 2: it's poor, poor sportsmanship. I was not proud of be Hoosier,
Speaker 2: and I've lived here my entire life. On behalf of
Speaker 2: most Hoosiers. I would like to apologize for our poor behavior.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Pacers had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 2: SmackDown John mellencamp. I mean he's coming at Pat McAfee.
Speaker 2: It sounds like because there's no I mean, even though
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee's on raw and not SmackDown's right, that's not
Speaker 2: a coincidence. And also when he says under whose direction
Speaker 2: I don't know, Pat McAfee's the hype man at the
Speaker 2: games in Indie, and he he likes to get on
Speaker 2: the big screen and yell and uh and you know,
Speaker 2: do his thing. Be Pat McAfee, but also like you know,
Speaker 2: bring the wrestling component to it. I don't think he
Speaker 2: was encouraging anybody to be violent or nasty TOAs. But
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, like you know, rhym him a little
Speaker 2: bit right, like and that that's that's normal. That's expected
Speaker 2: to an extent really at any game you go to
Speaker 2: the pro level. But I mean, I have not seen
Speaker 2: any stories or seen any videos that are that show
Speaker 2: Pacers fans behaving anything close to what Knicks fans behave, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did they ever watch did he have watched the
Speaker 3: Knicks video? I'm guessing he never did. Saw the guy
Speaker 3: get trash thrown at him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just to me, this is this
Speaker 2: is just a guess here, because I think most people
Speaker 2: in his position feel this way. He is someone that
Speaker 2: I think has had a hard time at times not
Speaker 2: making it clear he feels this way and it may
Speaker 2: not be a great look. John Cougar Mellencamp is a
Speaker 2: big fan of John Cougar Mellencamp. Again, I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, if your celebrity, you probably are feeling yourself
Speaker 2: a little bit because you know, why not, you're successful,
Speaker 2: You're famous to an extent, and balancing that I think
Speaker 2: is really important to your likability. And you know, nonetheless,
Speaker 2: my guess is that he's bothered that McAfee who isn't
Speaker 2: from Indy. But it's be kind of he's kind of
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a superstar now and he's he's clearly
Speaker 2: going to be up in the suite at the Colts games.
Speaker 2: He's clearly a big fan of the He's a supporter
Speaker 2: of the Colts so much so that you know, look,
Speaker 2: he played for him. He called out the Colts and
Speaker 2: the culture because he's right. And I don't even really
Speaker 2: like Pat Backay that much. I don't dislike him. He's
Speaker 2: just not my not my cup of tea. But I
Speaker 2: get why people do like him, you know, and he's
Speaker 2: he's definitely a breath fresh air as far as sports media.
Speaker 2: It's just a little too much for me at times.
Speaker 2: But I'm not a prude. I mean, he's again, I
Speaker 2: get why he's got an audience. But and by the way,
Speaker 2: a huge audience for that matter. But like he's kind
Speaker 2: of become the Indiana celebrity, right. I mean, look, it's
Speaker 2: become a talking point that the Knicks, they've they've got
Speaker 2: a Rollerdex, Ben Stiller, Larry David. I mean Spike Lee
Speaker 2: is the most legend. Yeah, I mean a guy, he's
Speaker 2: that guy is getting some heat, I feel like, but
Speaker 2: like Spikey, like Spike Lee is always gonna be the
Speaker 2: top celebrity. I give Ben Stiller the benefit of that
Speaker 2: doubt because I think even when the times with the
Speaker 2: Knicks have been bad, which most of them have, he's
Speaker 2: he's he's been pretty visible as a Knicks fan, I
Speaker 2: think all throughout his career. And there's some others as well,
Speaker 2: and they just you know, fat Joe court side. I
Speaker 2: mean like you're never surprised really to see any celebrity,
Speaker 2: especially one with New York affiliation at a Knicks game
Speaker 2: court side being shown on the big screen and of
Speaker 2: course being shown on television. The Pacers, there was a
Speaker 2: guy dressed like a like a celebrity court side and
Speaker 2: had had a good build to him, looked like a
Speaker 2: million bucks. And I'm like, man, I don't know who
Speaker 2: that guy is, but I'm glad he's having himself a
Speaker 2: time and he's gassing up my man, Tyrese Haliburton right
Speaker 2: after he gets a big steal late in that game
Speaker 2: and it turns out it was George Hill. Loved George Hill.
Speaker 2: But that's what we're working with court side. You know
Speaker 2: who else was there the game? Triple H? Papa was there.
Speaker 2: He was in the house they have. Why was he there?
Speaker 2: I gotta be a McAfee thing.
Speaker 3: They have, Like, it's a McAfee thing. It's there they have.
Speaker 3: They're having a good relationship with the Indiana Pacers. Halliburton
Speaker 3: showed up on program.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, they're still a collaboration. He was I
Speaker 2: get it. I remember that DX inspired shoes.
Speaker 3: His pumas were the DX That's cool. So, uh so
Speaker 3: he got to drop a triple double in front of
Speaker 3: Triple H.
Speaker 2: It's kind of legendary. Yeah. So the the celebrities for
Speaker 2: Indiana there just aren't that many. So Pat McAfee because
Speaker 2: of the momentum he has right now as far as
Speaker 2: being famous, the energy, he's kind of become that guy.
Speaker 2: Whereas Mellencamp's like, wait a second, I'm a hoosier. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I was born in a small town. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I think he's feeling a little bit insulted that
Speaker 2: they're they're just throwing out former players. I mean Jeff
Speaker 2: t who's from Indianapolis briefly played for the Pacers. He
Speaker 2: took a lot of heat on his podcast because he
Speaker 2: said the Pacers don't have a huge following in India,
Speaker 2: in Indiana, and he's wrong about that, I think. But again,
Speaker 2: maybe he knows more than I do. But he did
Speaker 2: bring up a really good point about Indiana Pacers might
Speaker 2: be the least celebrity. I mean, if the Indiana Pacers
Speaker 2: in the Oklahoma City Thunder playing the finals, there will
Speaker 2: never be a finals matchup that has less celebrity influence
Speaker 2: in fans. Sure ever, so I think John Cougar Mellencamp
Speaker 2: is thinking, what a second, you guys, you guys know
Speaker 2: who I am. As as Austin said, he's from a
Speaker 2: small town where he where he'll die in a small town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got they got a mural of him in Seymour.
Speaker 2: Yes, shout out to Seymore, Indiana. Absolutely. Our signal goes
Speaker 2: as north to see More, Indiana. So that's how close,
Speaker 2: that's how close we are. Hopefully he's listening, Yeah, shout
Speaker 2: out to I mean, look, I get it, he feels
Speaker 2: as if he's been around a long time. But I
Speaker 2: think what he needs to understand is that, yes, you
Speaker 2: are in Indiana Hoosier, and you mentioned Hoosier thirty seven
Speaker 2: times in this weird statement that you put out, But
Speaker 2: nobody really connects you with the Pacers. They connect you
Speaker 2: with the Indiana Hoosiers, the actual, you know, the college team.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I think he's a little jealous, and I
Speaker 2: get it. You know, he's done a lot in his career.
Speaker 2: He wants to be noticed, and he's taken jabs at
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee, starting a little beef to see if you
Speaker 2: know the old guard, the older crowd will be I
Speaker 2: guess anti McAfee and pro John Cougar. So anyways, it's
Speaker 2: a weird post with the texts. It's very weird. It's
Speaker 2: very very weird. But anyhow, we got to get to
Speaker 2: the top of the hour break. We've got one more
Speaker 2: hour left, four more hours total before it's done. So
Speaker 2: for me here at seven ninety, so let's have some fun,
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