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<v Speaker 2>just take you know, just trust me, take my word

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<v Speaker 2>for it, all right. So the commissioner of the Big Twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is the first time we've really heard,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of direct. Maybe I just haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention, But when it comes to those that are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the playoff, I feel like it's mostly just

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<v Speaker 2>SEC coaches and Greg Sanky And maybe it's just because

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<v Speaker 2>they get way more of a platform to do so,

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<v Speaker 2>but I I mean, I haven't I haven't seen any

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<v Speaker 2>coach from I haven't seen a coach from the non

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<v Speaker 2>SEC level of the power for meaning ACC, Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>in Big twelve. I haven't really heard or seen any

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<v Speaker 2>quotes that has had those coaches basically just calling out

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC for just trying to, you know, just have

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<v Speaker 2>it catered to them. Despite I mean, look, the SEC

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<v Speaker 2>has always been has always proven to be one of,

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<v Speaker 2>if not the best league. And look, there's years where

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they don't produce as much and there are some

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<v Speaker 2>results that make you question if they're deserving of this

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<v Speaker 2>benefit of doubt. But even with that said, in those years,

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<v Speaker 2>I find it hard to believe that from top to

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<v Speaker 2>bottom they still haven't been the best league in the

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<v Speaker 2>country because again, they're just they've got so much depth

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't see that changing. So I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>would love for a commissioner from the ACC Big twelve

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<v Speaker 2>or Big ten to come out and say some of

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<v Speaker 2>the Big ten's actually doing it. I think like Tony Patiti,

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<v Speaker 2>is hey handling it the right way. He clearly is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be against a format that gives the

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<v Speaker 2>Big ten to four automatic spots regardless of what of

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<v Speaker 2>what happens, but he's not as outspoken about it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't said a whole lot, whereas Sankie has really

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<v Speaker 2>played this in a way that's probably again I was

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to say something that maybe because this has

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<v Speaker 2>been at least the fourth or fifth time in the

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<v Speaker 2>last week or so when we've talked about the potential

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<v Speaker 2>expansion of the college football Playoff on what it looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>where I get to the point where I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>criticize Sankie, But I don't know if that's fair because

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the commissioner of the college football world. He

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<v Speaker 2>just is kind of perceived to be that because he's

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<v Speaker 2>a powerful guy and he's really good at his job,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, he'll do whatever he can behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes to make everything better for his conference and it

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<v Speaker 2>not be as convenient or great for other conferences. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think because he's viewed as some powerful guy that

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<v Speaker 2>does that, you know, has the future of the college

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<v Speaker 2>football world in his hands, but he doesn't. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>commission of one conference, so he's played both sides to her.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really been heavy handed in doing his job, which

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<v Speaker 2>are something wrong with that, But then whenever it is

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<v Speaker 2>it is portrayed, is that if he's trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>greedy and he's the bad guy, he'll come out on

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he'll come out and defend himself. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of feel like the whole thing has been

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC being outspoken in regards to what needs to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>as if like they're they're the ones being wronged here

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<v Speaker 2>is if there's some kind of a conspiracy against them,

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<v Speaker 2>which is nonsense. But you know what, when you control

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<v Speaker 2>the narrative, you control the messaging. Maybe you speaking into

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<v Speaker 2>existence in the eyes of some, but I mean even

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<v Speaker 2>some of the SEC coaches that clearly are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be hanks for the SEC. I mean I think Lank

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin is the one who came out and said that

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<v Speaker 2>he is, and he hopes that they just seed it

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<v Speaker 2>one through twelve or one through sixteen and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the best teams regardless of your conference, and that to me,

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<v Speaker 2>would be the way to go. However, what I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think many people are thinking about is that if you

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<v Speaker 2>do that, why would anybody even want to play in

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<v Speaker 2>a conference championship game? Because it's nice to win a

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<v Speaker 2>conference championship. If you're there, you're gonna want to try

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<v Speaker 2>to win. But if you're really good, you would rather

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<v Speaker 2>just avoid a When I say really good, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you're legitimately one of the teams of the sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>there usually aren't many they can say that realistically, you

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be competing for a national champions if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a national championship caliber program. I just think that

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<v Speaker 2>the conference championship, rather it be acc SEC whatever, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be in the way because you wouldn't trade

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<v Speaker 2>that championship in your league for even a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>play for a national championship. Right Like, a conference championship

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<v Speaker 2>is important. Nobody would tell you that they don't matter

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<v Speaker 2>at least as of right now. But if it genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do anything for you other than maybe, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>give you a chance to boost your resume before you

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<v Speaker 2>get to selection Sunday, but it could also hurt you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Like, it's like if you've got of Goliath and

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<v Speaker 2>you are let's just look at it this way. If

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<v Speaker 2>you are Clemson of old and they're just absolutely dominant

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<v Speaker 2>and they're looking like the best team and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>even close. They're being talked about as a team that

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<v Speaker 2>could be one of the best college football teams we've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. Let's just say hypothetically that happens and Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>is in a spot to get one of those last

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<v Speaker 2>bids to the sixteen team tournament, but they already have

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<v Speaker 2>a loss to a Let's see, let's say they lost

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<v Speaker 2>to Bill Belichick in North Carolina hypothetically and Belichick the

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<v Speaker 2>hoodie he got them, and Louisville now has that blemish.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're in a good spot. But they're about to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the ACC championship game and they're likely going

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<v Speaker 2>to be twenty one point dogs because Clemson's just that good. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>hypothetically speaking here, if you're Jeff, I mean, yeah you would.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you wouldn't back out of the game. You

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<v Speaker 2>would never do that. But like it's you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wish you weren't in the position. You wish that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a tiebreaker didn't break your way, because you'd be able

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<v Speaker 2>to then avoid that data point that could take you

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<v Speaker 2>out of the playoff. So, I mean, they still need

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<v Speaker 2>to have some kind of an incentive when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to this postseason playoff for those who win their conference championship,

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<v Speaker 2>or it will become what the bowl games have become

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<v Speaker 2>in the eyes of some. Now again that's not always

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<v Speaker 2>like there's gonna be some that are fighting to get

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<v Speaker 2>in with a potential win. So it won't be that

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<v Speaker 2>way every year. But if you've got the SEC championship

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<v Speaker 2>down to Georgia and Alabama and they're number one and

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<v Speaker 2>number two, neither probably cares to play the game they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to because you're not going to back out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But a win, what does it do? It might move

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<v Speaker 2>you from one to two. A loss might move you

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<v Speaker 2>to two to one, and you could you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>could get hurt, like you just don't have a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot to gain or lose. And I know what some

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<v Speaker 2>of you are thinking, Well, I mean you could hang

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<v Speaker 2>a banner, right, not many SEC championship banners have been

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<v Speaker 2>hung by certain programs. I get all that, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like, let me give you an example, if they

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<v Speaker 2>take away any value in winning these other than just

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<v Speaker 2>saying you did it and having that accomplishment, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>you get into the conference tournaments in basketball to where

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<v Speaker 2>they don't really mean a whole lot unless I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the committee, by the way, has told us that right

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<v Speaker 2>like we've seen it. I mean, Louisville played in the

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<v Speaker 2>championship game in the ACC this past season against Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>who is a one seed, and if they didn't beat

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford and nin Clemson in the first two games of

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament, would they even have gotten in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I say that kind of jokingly, but I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>committee has been pretty consistent. Yeah, you'll get an auto

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<v Speaker 2>bit if you get in, but we don't really care

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<v Speaker 2>what you do when it comes to those tournaments because

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<v Speaker 2>we've already probably put the bracket together by that. So

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<v Speaker 2>other than bid steelers, it's they're kind of other than

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<v Speaker 2>bid stealing. There's somewhat not useless, but there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of value there from the good leagues. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>the conference championship would turn into in football if there's

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<v Speaker 2>not some level of incentive. So I don't really know

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<v Speaker 2>what the perfect scenario is. I think the best I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard is to give auto bids two conference championships, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is no longer entitled you to a guaranteed top

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<v Speaker 2>four spot where you get to host a game and

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<v Speaker 2>get a buy or where you get to get a

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<v Speaker 2>buy not I guess the only people that host games

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<v Speaker 2>in the first first year of the expanded playoff was

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<v Speaker 2>those who had the better seed in those first round

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<v Speaker 2>games before you got to the Elite eight. So back

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<v Speaker 2>to what I was initially going to get to, is

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<v Speaker 2>Brett Yormack, who is your mark, I should say, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the commissioner of the Big twelve. He says he wants

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<v Speaker 2>five automatic qualifiers and eleven at large spots for the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six playoff and wants an end to con

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<v Speaker 2>considering multiple auto qualifiers. One playoff proposal. One playoff proposal

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<v Speaker 2>gives the Big ten in the SEC four auto I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready to hear from Brett McMurphy. So this is not

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<v Speaker 2>an outlandish thing to say. This isn't even really like,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't even like a strong statement. This is just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is just I think what a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are probably thinking, which is that, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>give auto qualifiers, meaning the Big towelve, the ACC, the SEC,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Big Ten, their champ would automatically get in,

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<v Speaker 2>and there'll be one automatic spot given to the best

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<v Speaker 2>team that is not from the power level meaning those

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<v Speaker 2>four conferences, and then you just put eleven at large spots.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that makes too much sense to not do.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would we not do that? Because Sankie and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the Big Ten, Tony Petiti they want, They want

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<v Speaker 2>to just be given those they want half the field,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of what happens. Just the more you say it

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<v Speaker 2>out loud again, it's just eliminating the true competition of

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<v Speaker 2>the of the sport. Right. I mean not to say

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<v Speaker 2>that anybody would just get in, but I again say

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<v Speaker 2>it out loud. Guaranteeing spots for conferences before anybody plays

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<v Speaker 2>a game, is you admitting it's quite literally a fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you are just stating that, because of what you've

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<v Speaker 2>always done in previous seasons, this is the way it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be. When last I checked, you mean you should

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<v Speaker 2>never consider what was done a year ago or what

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<v Speaker 2>determine what a team is in what they're deserving of

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<v Speaker 2>in that current season. Yes, sure, brand is always going

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<v Speaker 2>to be with you, it's gonna matter, but not to

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<v Speaker 2>this extent to where, yeah, well the sec has always

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<v Speaker 2>just been great, So we want four, the Big ten

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<v Speaker 2>gets four, and then you guys can do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can fight for seconds, which again it'll probably play

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<v Speaker 2>out that way. It'll probably play out to where they're

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<v Speaker 2>still gonna continuously get way more teams in than any

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<v Speaker 2>other league, But why not just earn it instead of

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<v Speaker 2>just being handed to you. Here's a quote from Brett Yormack.

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<v Speaker 2>five plus eleven format does that. It's fair, it's what

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<v Speaker 2>our fans want. They don't want an individual they want

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want an invitational, they want a true playoff system,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have that right now. We need to put

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<v Speaker 2>these multiple aqs and take out of the of the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and focus on what's right with college football. I

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<v Speaker 2>think five plus eleven does that, and that's our preference,

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<v Speaker 2>that is everybody's preference. And in fact, the Big Ten,

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<v Speaker 2>unless I'm missing it, they're not outspoken about needing four

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<v Speaker 2>automatic spots. They're not going to fight against it, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seems like maybe they have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of awareness. They can read the room that, Yeah, why

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<v Speaker 2>why would anybody agree to that? And that's my thing, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what power or leverage anybody truly has here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, clearly the Big Ten in the SEC, if

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted, they could just do their own thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't. I mean, that would be a successful thing

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<v Speaker 2>as far as television, but like that would totally change

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<v Speaker 2>college football. And I think people would still watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it would change it so much that it

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<v Speaker 2>really wouldn't be the same sport. And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>that there'd be a lot I have notts right if

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<v Speaker 2>we lived in a world where the Big ten and

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC only competed with themselves and each other. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's winning what a game a year? Two a year?

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<v Speaker 2>Like That's that's that, you know, as much as there's

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<v Speaker 2>the big boys that that, you know, maybe throw that

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<v Speaker 2>out there as a as a threat that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>really need you because we're the big dogs. You're lucky

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<v Speaker 2>we let you play at our party. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of how they treat it. Right. As much as

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<v Speaker 2>that is said by the big dogs, there's not many

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<v Speaker 2>big dogs in either of those leagues. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>got many programs like let me give you an example,

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<v Speaker 2>Lane Kiffin and ole Miss really good. Their ceiling is

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<v Speaker 2>not as high as the big dogs. In fact, Lane

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<v Speaker 2>kiffn put together the best roster ole Miss on paper

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<v Speaker 2>reportedly had last year, and they were good, but not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough. I mean, if they had to play more

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<v Speaker 2>games against everybody from those two leagues and didn't play

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<v Speaker 2>any of the Patsis, didn't play wake Forest, who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>did suck last year, and bought out of that series,

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't even be in the conversation for doing something special.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm of the belief that common sense will prevail

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<v Speaker 2>here and it'll probably be five plus eleven with five

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<v Speaker 2>automatic bids eleven at large, and sank You'll play victim

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<v Speaker 2>and say that because of this, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>go from eight games in the SEC to nine, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people will believe it. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Sanki is ultimately now that I really have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to read how he's handled this current situation with

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<v Speaker 2>the expanded playoff, and again he's not really doing anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But the SEC has a level of delusion that is

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<v Speaker 2>just not justified. It's not warranted. They are the best conference,

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<v Speaker 2>but they the way in which they stretch that is

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<v Speaker 2>just insane. And there's no better season than the woman

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<v Speaker 2>we just had that can give you proof of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, the way in which he's just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he's even throwing out they should get

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<v Speaker 2>four automatic. I mean, not many would even do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but Sankie will because he's sanking He's good at his job.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that just more so spreads the delusion

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the SEC thinking that they're the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>compared to everybody else. And yes, you could be the

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<v Speaker 2>best league, but it's not to the level that you

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<v Speaker 2>think it is. And even if you are even better

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<v Speaker 2>than you think you are, what would mean that you're

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<v Speaker 2>entitled to spots based off of what previous teams have done.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm being very repetitive here, but why change now?

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<v Speaker 2>I've probably done that for nine years, right, But it's

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<v Speaker 2>also just it's maddening to me like that people get

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<v Speaker 2>Like when you hear of those throwing out television audience

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<v Speaker 2>as a potential qualifier for the playoff, go play in traffic?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? What? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why I'm getting so worked up. Let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. We'll come back on the other side. It's

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's and I hate to well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hate to do it. I'm gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I get a show and a half

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<v Speaker 2>left roughly here. I'm gonna tease you guys for the

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<v Speaker 2>next segment with some pacer stuff for a reason I

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<v Speaker 2>was not expecting. I'm now not as not as confident

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<v Speaker 2>about the pacers. Do you know why, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side. In fact, Austin, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about? No, I don't. This is magic.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting teased. This is magic because it's regarding the

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<v Speaker 2>guy whose music you're playing right now. How about that

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<v Speaker 2>for a tease quick break right here on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>Coffee and Company. Phil about Thornton's here on a Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety big shout outs to my friends over

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<v Speaker 2>at the Lieusvillmen's Clinic. They can help you, fellas, when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to getting your sex life back. They can

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<v Speaker 2>help you directaldus. Function is a real thing, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think anybody would really dispute that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think anybody would ever claimed that they

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<v Speaker 2>would enjoy having that. I mean, maybe there are people

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<v Speaker 2>But if you know there are people out there that

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<v Speaker 2>help you when it comes to that, why wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 2>take me up on that? The Louis of Men's Clinic

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<v Speaker 2>doctor would he can help you. He's helped many, many

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and a Natives. Over the last ten plus years

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<v Speaker 2>they've been in business. Many have come and gone, no

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<v Speaker 2>pun intended. They've tried to imitate what the Louis of

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<v Speaker 2>Men's Clinic is doing, but they can't. They can't perform

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have the stamina. They can't last like the

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<v Speaker 2>Louis of Men's Clinic has lasted. So if you know

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<v Speaker 2>you have it, I hate to hear it. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's not fun. I'm sure it does a lot to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna sweat it because I know the Little

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<v Speaker 2>of men Clinic can help me. They've got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different ways they can treat ed. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to believe that a company is one thousand

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<v Speaker 2>percent confident in what they do, the lot of men

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<v Speaker 2>clinic's the best example, because if you don't perform, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't pay. If it doesn't work, meaning whatever method they

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<v Speaker 2>tried that you wanted to go with as far as

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<v Speaker 2>correcting the ed, then you don't pay anything. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that that is I mean, I mean if every place

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't because they can't guarantee it, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they don't trust it. Maybe their phonies well Little of

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<v Speaker 2>men Clinic, there's nothing about them phony, So go see them.

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<v Speaker 2>Lovelemnclinic dot com, give them a call. Five h two

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<v Speaker 2>four four four four thousand. Did not mean to have

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<v Speaker 2>as many puns in there, but you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>worked out that way. Shut out, doctor would And will

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<v Speaker 2>you guys ever grow up? I mean I can't. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't go two weeks without somebody the doctor who helps

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<v Speaker 2>people with eds. His name really doctor Wood? Or are

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<v Speaker 2>you just making that up? What do you know? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a professional, doctor Wood.

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<v Speaker 3>They're probably waiting for the last show for you to

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<v Speaker 3>say it was all a facade. His name was never

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Wood. Oh man, there was never a doctor Wood.

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<v Speaker 2>You just reminded me of something that I would have

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<v Speaker 2>totally forgot to bring up. But it was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the texts that came in I believe on Tuesday that

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<v Speaker 2>said on your last show where you finally admit to

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<v Speaker 2>everybody that it was all a troll job, all a scam,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you're actually a Kentucky fan, that that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of died down, and and I mean, what I do

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<v Speaker 2>find amusing is there are people who genuinely believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>a Louisville fan. He's a close UK fan. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a bb AT invasion on seven ninety. He's from Bullet County.

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<v Speaker 2>How could he like Louisville. I mean, you realize people aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people play along with it and it's fun, but

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<v Speaker 2>then you realize there's others that truly believe that. And

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<v Speaker 2>as a fan, you have people just claiming your negative

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<v Speaker 2>or you know you suck, you know, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>people may agree with you, they don't want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>it's their team. So I've dealt with that over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>I can be negative and Austin again, that's why you

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<v Speaker 2>and I are are on the same on the same

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always tried to do that as best I can.

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<v Speaker 2>But I never thought I would ever be in a

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<v Speaker 2>be damned if I'm going to do this and not

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<v Speaker 2>say what I think I mean. That would be I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a chance for me to really look like

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<v Speaker 2>a complete fraud. And maybe you think I am whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>that's your opinion, but imagine like sugarcoating what that experience

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<v Speaker 2>did hear enough of it that it, you know, to

416
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<v Speaker 2>an extent, even if it was just a handful of people,

417
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<v Speaker 2>ten people like the fact that people thought I, you know,

418
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<v Speaker 2>dedicated the vast majority of my life to just being

419
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<v Speaker 2>a diehard fan and put so much time into, you know,

420
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<v Speaker 2>just being a fan and utilizing the platform of the Internet,

421
00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and that thankfully was able to kind of launch me

422
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<v Speaker 2>into where I kind of this is what I do.

423
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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything flattering about that, though, Like, and they

424
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<v Speaker 3>tell you that you think that you're doing a decent

425
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<v Speaker 3>job with the I mean I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, yeah, I mean I think it. I

427
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<v Speaker 2>think it. It two things. It didn't It didn't at

428
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<v Speaker 2>the time to bother you, or it did at the time,

429
00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:43.960
<v Speaker 2>because I remember, I remember, I mean, yeah, look, I

430
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<v Speaker 2>learned a lot about myself during that that wasn't fun

431
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<v Speaker 2>for a variety of reasons. And I would never you know,

432
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<v Speaker 2>I would never come on here during that time when

433
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<v Speaker 2>we're all just miserabout level basketball and talk about why

434
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<v Speaker 2>I'm miserable as an individual in my in my job,

435
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<v Speaker 2>because you know, it did make me think, like, am

436
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I being too hard? Am I over the Am I

437
00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:06.000
<v Speaker 2>over the top? And I never once was personal. I

438
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<v Speaker 2>never once, at any point got nasty as far as

439
00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.839
<v Speaker 2>just saying what was I mean? I would say that

440
00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.839
<v Speaker 2>he sucks as a coach because he sucked as a coach.

441
00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:17.359
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't really up for opinion. The facts were there.

442
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:19.720
<v Speaker 2>So now that I look back on it, I'm not

443
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<v Speaker 2>surprised that I second guessed myself at times. But it

444
00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:25.119
<v Speaker 2>was really stupid because anybody telling you anything other than

445
00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:27.119
<v Speaker 2>what was right in front of our face, they're the

446
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<v Speaker 2>ones who are having issues, right and again, nobody wants

447
00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:31.480
<v Speaker 2>it to be that way, and I'm sure you don't

448
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:33.039
<v Speaker 2>want to hear it every day, but you know what

449
00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>we do around here in this market. We talk college

450
00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:38.240
<v Speaker 2>basketball a lot, a lot more than anybody else. And

451
00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:39.839
<v Speaker 2>when you get a program like Louisville and that kind

452
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<v Speaker 2>of a situation, it's gonna be talked about a lot.

453
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<v Speaker 2>And you know what I dealt with. That really bothered

454
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<v Speaker 2>me to where I started to wonder if I'm if

455
00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:50.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm if I'm doing the job the way that I

456
00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:52.599
<v Speaker 2>should be. Was that when people would call in and

457
00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.599
<v Speaker 2>be like, come on, man, we get it, we suck,

458
00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:57.720
<v Speaker 2>and I would just lose my mind on him, like

459
00:22:57.720 --> 00:22:59.119
<v Speaker 2>what do you think? Like what do you think this is?

460
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<v Speaker 2>You think we only talk about the team when they're good,

461
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.880
<v Speaker 2>like no, like we've had bad years, down years, we've

462
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.039
<v Speaker 2>had scandals, But that was a level of just the

463
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<v Speaker 2>product and the overall life being sucked out of the program.

464
00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.039
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, you got to address it, you got

465
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:15.599
<v Speaker 2>to be real about it. But that led to it

466
00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:17.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't as much towards the end, but the first year

467
00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 2>those that wanted to act like there weren't alarming signs

468
00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:23.799
<v Speaker 2>from day one, that wanted to believe that. In the

469
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.240
<v Speaker 2>second year with the new roster, I mean, I guess

470
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people wanted to believe his excuses, even

471
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<v Speaker 2>if they deep down I don't know. I mean, I

472
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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many people, even those who claimed they

473
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<v Speaker 2>did believe in Kenny Panna, I don't and they're worn't

474
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<v Speaker 2>that many, honestly. But those who did claim that they did,

475
00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if they even really did. They just

476
00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:41.079
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to believe that they did, so they ran

477
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:44.359
<v Speaker 2>with it, and they became insufferable because they acted like

478
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.279
<v Speaker 2>if you call out a team sucking and being terrible,

479
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.279
<v Speaker 2>quite literally one of the worst teams in the country,

480
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.440
<v Speaker 2>that you're that you've got an agenda. No, it's just

481
00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:55.319
<v Speaker 2>it's just using your eyeballs and brain. I mean, it's

482
00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:58.960
<v Speaker 2>that's what it was. So it was. It wasn't a

483
00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:02.559
<v Speaker 2>long stretch of that, but really at the end of

484
00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:05.559
<v Speaker 2>year one and even in the summer the off season,

485
00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.200
<v Speaker 2>that's where I like, I guess, people, just what do

486
00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you mean? They got it? They got it? They got

487
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Dennis Evan's coming in, they got Trend Flowers, we got

488
00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Johnson, and we've got Mike James back. I mean,

489
00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Holly Hadfield. I mean that that whenever I would

490
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.039
<v Speaker 2>talk about, you know, we'll see, we'll see. But last

491
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:26.920
<v Speaker 2>year was you know, I think even if they had

492
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:28.480
<v Speaker 2>better player, they still would have been a mess, because

493
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:31.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, they weren't four and twenty eight based off talent.

494
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>When I would say that, then it would be, oh, well,

495
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>then you just must be a UK fan like what.

496
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:38.839
<v Speaker 2>And again, it wasn't like it was a huge amount

497
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.200
<v Speaker 2>of people, but it was a weird experience that I

498
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:46.359
<v Speaker 2>never envisioned happening. And uh, it was never it was

499
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:49.160
<v Speaker 2>never a troll job. And I think, honestly, it's a

500
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:51.759
<v Speaker 2>that's like a distant thing for people now because I

501
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:53.240
<v Speaker 2>used to really lean into it on the internet just

502
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>because you know, why not. It's a toxic dump that

503
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.839
<v Speaker 2>the internet is. And you know, if people want to

504
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 2>engage with you and you know, be a lunatic, be

505
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:03.839
<v Speaker 2>a lunatic, back to him and have some fun with him.

506
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>That's really what it turned into during the overall Kenny

507
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<v Speaker 2>Payne experience.

508
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<v Speaker 3>But even during those times, I feel like it just

509
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.319
<v Speaker 3>got so even like the postgame shows and just like

510
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 3>the daily shows, you just sounded so like thesent and

511
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.920
<v Speaker 3>size to it that it was. It feels like you.

512
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't it was therapy for me to be honest with you.

513
00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, like I don't I don't get why, you know.

514
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:27.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't say this for effect. I mean it, if

515
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have the platform daily and even postgame shows

516
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:33.079
<v Speaker 2>to get it out, I think it would it would

517
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.680
<v Speaker 2>consume me more than it than it did, if that

518
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>makes sense.

519
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 3>Like, and that's why listeners listen to you in the

520
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 3>first place, because you are that gateway as.

521
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:44.039
<v Speaker 2>So so, and I appreciate you saying that, but this

522
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 2>was nowhere near the extent. And I never called for

523
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>this guy's job or called for him to be fired.

524
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:50.559
<v Speaker 2>But I also wasn't going to shake the pom Poms

525
00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:53.799
<v Speaker 2>just because that's what people wanted. I would be honest

526
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and say, Scott Saderfield's not a bad coach, but he's

527
00:25:57.640 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 2>not good enough for us to be where we want

528
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>to be, and that was always the case. But he

529
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 2>wasn't anything like Kenny Payne. So trust me, it's not

530
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>like I'm comparing the two. But during that time, when

531
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:07.839
<v Speaker 2>I no longer had to worry about anything I said

532
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>about UFL because we no longer had their games, I

533
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>could just say what I wanted to be myself, and

534
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>yet football was not anywhere near basketball. But still at

535
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>times I would be pretty upset about Saturdfille because like

536
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>he should have been better, Like he wasn't terrible, but

537
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:23.160
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't great either, And I think seeing that his

538
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 2>only real success came with Bobby Patrino players like that

539
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of speaks to what he can do. And again,

540
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:29.960
<v Speaker 2>not to bag on him, but he was voted six.

541
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>He was ranked the sixty third best coach at a

542
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.440
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight at the Power four level last week, and

543
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 2>the you know, others at app State have actually been

544
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.640
<v Speaker 2>better than him since he left there. So what I'm

545
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 2>getting at is just being honest and at times maybe

546
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 2>it is too negative in the eyes of some and

547
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.039
<v Speaker 2>at times maybe you know, it just wasn't a side

548
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 2>of me you hadn't heard yet. As far as just

549
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.359
<v Speaker 2>being negative, well one, well the football. When I got hired,

550
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson was our quarterback and then we had you know,

551
00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.400
<v Speaker 2>great success with Bobby until that final season and then

552
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 2>it was terrible. It was over, and then we had

553
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:08.279
<v Speaker 2>we had sat for a year, momentum was good and

554
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>then it fell apart and you got back on track.

555
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>But never really, I mean, you probably would have been

556
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 2>a perennial six and six, seven and five at best.

557
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Seventy five was a stealing with Sadderfield and with Jeff.

558
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Obviously we're in a little bit of a different world.

559
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I think seven and five will be a real outliers

560
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 2>is you know what happened? How'd you go? Seven and five?

561
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 2>So the reason it's kind of died off, and I

562
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 2>rarely even think about that time where people would just

563
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>be all over me about being negative and somebody accused

564
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.200
<v Speaker 2>me of being a UK fan, is because you know what,

565
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>we got some good momentum right now. You got to

566
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>hear me every day like a little kid excited on

567
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Christmas morning because Pat Kelsey brought us back to life.

568
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Brahm took us to the ACC Championship in his

569
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.680
<v Speaker 2>first game. So if you know, maybe I'm not your

570
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>cup of tea. Maybe you prefer a little Homer in

571
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>your dinner. Maybe you like somebody to just, you know,

572
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>talk bad about your team because you just or into

573
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. Maybe you're kinky like that. I

574
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but what you get from me is what

575
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I really feel, and that never made me feel more alive.

576
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we used to. I don't want to act like

577
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I ever had to completely really just I mean, I

578
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 2>got lucky the first time I ever got a phone

579
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 2>call about Hey, would you say Tom wanted me to

580
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>a Tom wanted me to talk to you? Would you

581
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 2>say the same? The first day that happened, no joke.

582
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Five days later he was effectively fired. I'm not saying

583
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I celebrated and that was a great thing, because you know,

584
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.079
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to see somebody's demise. But the timing

585
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.799
<v Speaker 2>worked out to where once Tom was gone, there wasn't

586
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 2>as much really give a damn about like what we'd say,

587
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 2>because I mean the fact that they used to worry

588
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>about the way they didn't reminded me of like I

589
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>heard stories that I'm like, there's no way this is true.

590
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 2>And then I you know, once I started working here

591
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 2>and you get a little bit more close with people

592
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.079
<v Speaker 2>at u of L, you realize that Tom jorg did

593
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>really care. And I've always to my I've always believed

594
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:56.119
<v Speaker 2>that he did that based off the fact that he

595
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't have the ability to not make it personal because

596
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to him, U of L was not his, like he

597
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.039
<v Speaker 2>owns it, but he built it outside of our basketball program.

598
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Lovell Athletics, I mean knows a lot to Tom Jorge

599
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>because the vision. I mean, you went from a commuter

600
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 2>school with a hoops program and a team every now

601
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 2>and then. In the other sports it would be decent,

602
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 2>but I mean things are really different because of him.

603
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 2>So I just look at it not as to where

604
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 2>he he was, you know, he was an a hole.

605
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I just think it was impossible for him to not

606
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 2>take you saying something about the programs that isn't positive.

607
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean literally, if you weren't gassing up the team,

608
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>then he thought you were being like he took it personal,

609
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's a weird thing. To do. But I kind of,

610
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>in my mind, I think that's why he was that way,

611
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.839
<v Speaker 2>is because he truly just cared so much and he

612
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>put so much into it to where he didn't have

613
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>the ability to not take it personal. If you said

614
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you didn't like a play call by one of his coordinators.

615
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he may not punch you. He wouldn't. I'm exaggerating,

616
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:56.160
<v Speaker 2>but he'd remember you said it. I'm not kidding, by

617
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the way, And there's people listening that have ever been

618
00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>in this position, you know what I'm talking about. Like,

619
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I heard stories for years before I got a chance

620
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to actually work here, and I thought, although it was exaggerating,

621
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>there's no way. But no, I mean Benetti was essentially

622
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<v Speaker 2>shunned because he, you know, said Patino probably should be

623
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<v Speaker 2>fired because there was a prostitution situation at the team dorm.

624
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<v Speaker 2>You thought he'd just said that, you know, he wanted

625
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 2>kittens murdered. I mean, really in an outlantic thing to

626
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>say in the grand scheme of things, right, yeah, prostitution scheme.

627
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you probably got a clean house. Uh, it

628
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 2>was different back then. You said that it meant you

629
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<v Speaker 2>were you were an enemy. I mean the fact that

630
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<v Speaker 2>him and Matt Jones. We were friendly on air, and

631
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<v Speaker 2>you know, still are. They just don't run on the

632
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>air together anymore at any point. I mean like that

633
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>they were coming for his head. Not literally, but you know,

634
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<v Speaker 2>I think you do know what I mean. So it was,

635
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:53.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, and look now that I'm moving to eight forty.

636
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>He didn't mean I'm not going to talk sports, and

637
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean I'm not going to say what I think.

638
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>It's just going to be, you know, in different doses

639
00:30:57.640 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>and clearly a different format on a news talk station.

640
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, this time, we're really gonna get to what

641
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I was teasing about on the UH. And this is

642
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>what I mean by that, Austin. You took me in

643
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:09.599
<v Speaker 2>a in a direction I wasn't heading on headed. I

644
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.039
<v Speaker 2>wasn't headed there, but you took me there, and I'm

645
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>glad you did so. On the other side, John Mellencamp,

646
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>he's upset with Pacer fans, and I don't really care

647
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>that he is, but I don't. This gives me some

648
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 2>bad energy and I don't want that. You got one

649
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:27.640
<v Speaker 2>game left to close it out, to get your ass

650
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 2>back to the finals. Let's get it done. Shohn Cougar Mellencamp,

651
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>who I like. I'm a fan. He's got some legendary hits.

652
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>But you can't be spreading this bad energy when we're

653
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 2>about we're about to potentially clench our ticket to the finals.

654
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<v Speaker 2>Bro Come on now, JCM, will you think it quick break?

655
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<v Speaker 2>Keep it locked right here? Sports Talk seven.

656
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<v Speaker 1>Ninety now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

657
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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

658
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<v Speaker 2>Is this a live version or just like the video version?

659
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<v Speaker 3>No, it's I don't know what this is a video.

660
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean there is like visuals behind it, but it's

661
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>not the official video.

662
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I can't. He's probably got a deeper catalog than like

663
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I realize. I'm sure people because he's such an iconic

664
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>musician that I think there's probably I mean, there's probably

665
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.839
<v Speaker 2>people who can who can list off twenty five or

666
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>more songs of his just because again, like he's I mean,

667
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason he still is. If he has a show,

668
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 2>it won't be at a big arena this day and age,

669
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 2>but if he has a show really anywhere, there's enough

670
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 2>people still that'll show up because he's he's John Cougar Mellencamp, right,

671
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Like for me, Pink Houses, Jack and Diane Hurts, so

672
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>good is great. I mean he's had. I mean, look,

673
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking here now and he's got I mean, there's

674
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>there's more than I'm there's more of his songs than

675
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I now that I'm looking at it, than I even realized.

676
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>But again, I'm sure people know way more than I do.

677
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, he is a I mean, when you think

678
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>of John Cougar Mellencamp, other than all you know, all

679
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the music, you probably think of him being a proud

680
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Indiana hoosier and his man like his his his music

681
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of sound like it kind of sounds like Indiana

682
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 2>like I just think of the Indian like in Indiana's scene,

683
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, over the heartland and the you know, the

684
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.799
<v Speaker 2>big fields that you see on those long drives up

685
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 2>north north on I sixty five, and you know, you

686
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>get off an exit and there's not a whole lot

687
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>there but a lot of fields. In fact, that's exactly

688
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>where he's from, and that in that area that's right

689
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>just north of here, which by the way, I my

690
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<v Speaker 2>my aunt Linda, she was she was at w k

691
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<v Speaker 2>U around the time that he was. I mean, I

692
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>think they're around the same age, so he he wasn't

693
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>a known name just yet by any means, but you know,

694
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.039
<v Speaker 2>he was the guy who liked to party and bring

695
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.519
<v Speaker 2>his guitar and he would jam for people. Well he

696
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 2>I think. I think the story is this, My aunt

697
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Linda had a either a sorority sister or a friend

698
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>in college many many years ago that was from Seymour

699
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and they had to get together. And he didn't go

700
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>to WBKAU obviously, but he came and brought his guitar

701
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>and like performed at the party, like just around like

702
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>a group of people. But he wasn't John Mellencamp, the

703
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 2>celebrity at the time. He was just a guy who,

704
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, people thought was good and it was a

705
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 2>different time then. So yeah, she shared that story with

706
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 2>me many years ago. I thought that was super cool

707
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 2>because to be able to say you heard that guy

708
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.679
<v Speaker 2>in that setting long before he became John Mellencamp, Like

709
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that's that's pretty damn cool. But anyways, he's upset with

710
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 2>the pacers, and I don't think of the Pacers when

711
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 2>I think of Mellencamp, but again, if you do, I

712
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 2>get it. But I think of Indiana. You know, the

713
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Hoosiers because he's oftentimes court sided in Bloomington. I think

714
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.039
<v Speaker 2>he actually lives in Bloomington still. But he put this

715
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>out on his Twitter account, which is a very very

716
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 2>very very poorly put like I don't know if his

717
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>grandkid did it or what, but it's a picture of

718
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>him and I guess his wife at the game and

719
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:50.679
<v Speaker 2>it just got text over at it. It's like hard

720
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.079
<v Speaker 2>to reach. Just look, it looks really unprofessional. But anyways,

721
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.880
<v Speaker 2>here's the message he wanted to put out on all

722
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>days to do it. It's you seeing it too, Yeah,

723
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 2>the Knicks Pacers games. I mean, let's be real. It

724
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 2>sounds like an old man that doesn't know how to

725
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>use social media, is it not? In his message here?

726
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 2>His tone also sounds like an old man who just

727
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 2>isn't quite clear with the current climate in sports. And

728
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>also either he just is old enough to not give

729
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>it down, which if that's the case, respect, or he

730
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't understand that this is going to be a

731
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.159
<v Speaker 2>wildly unpopular take and he's gonna get roasted. I mean,

732
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>this has two point eight million views and it's only

733
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>been on the internet for a few hours. But this

734
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.199
<v Speaker 2>is what he said. The Knicks Pacers games have been

735
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.840
<v Speaker 2>very entertaining for anyone who likes basketball or sports. I

736
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 2>attended game Boer in Indianapolis, Who's your Hospitality? I was

737
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 2>embarrassed when somebody, under whose direction I don't know, called

738
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>out some of the people who had made the trip

739
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 2>from New York to support their team and in turn

740
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>support our team. The audience booed these people. I'd say

741
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Speaker 2>that was not who's your hospitality? One could only say

742
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 2>it's poor, poor sportsmanship. I was not proud of be Hoosier,

743
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>and I've lived here my entire life. On behalf of

744
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.159
<v Speaker 2>most Hoosiers. I would like to apologize for our poor behavior.

745
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the Pacers had nothing to do with this.

746
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>SmackDown John mellencamp. I mean he's coming at Pat McAfee.

747
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like because there's no I mean, even though

748
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Pat McAfee's on raw and not SmackDown's right, that's not

749
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>a coincidence. And also when he says under whose direction

750
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Pat McAfee's the hype man at the

751
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>games in Indie, and he he likes to get on

752
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the big screen and yell and uh and you know,

753
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 2>do his thing. Be Pat McAfee, but also like you know,

754
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 2>bring the wrestling component to it. I don't think he

755
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>was encouraging anybody to be violent or nasty TOAs. But

756
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, like you know, rhym him a little

757
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>bit right, like and that that's that's normal. That's expected

758
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to an extent really at any game you go to

759
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the pro level. But I mean, I have not seen

760
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.760
<v Speaker 2>any stories or seen any videos that are that show

761
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Pacers fans behaving anything close to what Knicks fans behave, Like.

762
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did they ever watch did he have watched the

763
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Knicks video? I'm guessing he never did. Saw the guy

764
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:02.400
<v Speaker 3>get trash thrown at him?

765
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I just to me, this is this

766
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 2>is just a guess here, because I think most people

767
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in his position feel this way. He is someone that

768
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 2>I think has had a hard time at times not

769
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.239
<v Speaker 2>making it clear he feels this way and it may

770
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>not be a great look. John Cougar Mellencamp is a

771
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 2>big fan of John Cougar Mellencamp. Again, I feel like,

772
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, if your celebrity, you probably are feeling yourself

773
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 2>a little bit because you know, why not, you're successful,

774
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 2>You're famous to an extent, and balancing that I think

775
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:36.199
<v Speaker 2>is really important to your likability. And you know, nonetheless,

776
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 2>my guess is that he's bothered that McAfee who isn't

777
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.079
<v Speaker 2>from Indy. But it's be kind of he's kind of

778
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's a superstar now and he's he's clearly

779
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.280
<v Speaker 2>going to be up in the suite at the Colts games.

780
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>He's clearly a big fan of the He's a supporter

781
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 2>of the Colts so much so that you know, look,

782
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 2>he played for him. He called out the Colts and

783
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 2>the culture because he's right. And I don't even really

784
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>like Pat Backay that much. I don't dislike him. He's

785
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>just not my not my cup of tea. But I

786
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>get why people do like him, you know, and he's

787
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>he's definitely a breath fresh air as far as sports media.

788
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.079
<v Speaker 2>It's just a little too much for me at times.

789
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:06.679
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not a prude. I mean, he's again, I

790
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.320
<v Speaker 2>get why he's got an audience. But and by the way,

791
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>a huge audience for that matter. But like he's kind

792
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>of become the Indiana celebrity, right. I mean, look, it's

793
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 2>become a talking point that the Knicks, they've they've got

794
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 2>a Rollerdex, Ben Stiller, Larry David. I mean Spike Lee

795
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 2>is the most legend. Yeah, I mean a guy, he's

796
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.679
<v Speaker 2>that guy is getting some heat, I feel like, but

797
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 2>like Spikey, like Spike Lee is always gonna be the

798
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.280
<v Speaker 2>top celebrity. I give Ben Stiller the benefit of that

799
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>doubt because I think even when the times with the

800
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Knicks have been bad, which most of them have, he's

801
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 2>he's he's been pretty visible as a Knicks fan, I

802
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>think all throughout his career. And there's some others as well,

803
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and they just you know, fat Joe court side. I

804
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>mean like you're never surprised really to see any celebrity,

805
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>especially one with New York affiliation at a Knicks game

806
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.760
<v Speaker 2>court side being shown on the big screen and of

807
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 2>course being shown on television. The Pacers, there was a

808
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 2>guy dressed like a like a celebrity court side and

809
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 2>had had a good build to him, looked like a

810
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:07.480
<v Speaker 2>million bucks. And I'm like, man, I don't know who

811
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 2>that guy is, but I'm glad he's having himself a

812
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 2>time and he's gassing up my man, Tyrese Haliburton right

813
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 2>after he gets a big steal late in that game

814
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>and it turns out it was George Hill. Loved George Hill.

815
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>But that's what we're working with court side. You know

816
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>who else was there the game? Triple H? Papa was there.

817
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 2>He was in the house they have. Why was he there?

818
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be a McAfee thing.

819
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 3>They have, Like, it's a McAfee thing. It's there they have.

820
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 3>They're having a good relationship with the Indiana Pacers. Halliburton

821
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:37.760
<v Speaker 3>showed up on program.

822
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah, they're still a collaboration. He was I

823
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.519
<v Speaker 2>get it. I remember that DX inspired shoes.

824
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 3>His pumas were the DX That's cool. So, uh so

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<v Speaker 3>he got to drop a triple double in front of

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<v Speaker 3>Triple H.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of legendary. Yeah. So the the celebrities for

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana there just aren't that many. So Pat McAfee because

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<v Speaker 2>of the momentum he has right now as far as

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<v Speaker 2>being famous, the energy, he's kind of become that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas Mellencamp's like, wait a second, I'm a hoosier. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was born in a small town. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think he's feeling a little bit insulted that

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're just throwing out former players. I mean Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>t who's from Indianapolis briefly played for the Pacers. He

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<v Speaker 2>took a lot of heat on his podcast because he

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<v Speaker 2>said the Pacers don't have a huge following in India,

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<v Speaker 2>in Indiana, and he's wrong about that, I think. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he knows more than I do. But he did

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<v Speaker 2>bring up a really good point about Indiana Pacers might

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<v Speaker 2>be the least celebrity. I mean, if the Indiana Pacers

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<v Speaker 2>in the Oklahoma City Thunder playing the finals, there will

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<v Speaker 2>never be a finals matchup that has less celebrity influence

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<v Speaker 2>in fans. Sure ever, so I think John Cougar Mellencamp

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<v Speaker 2>is thinking, what a second, you guys, you guys know

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<v Speaker 2>who I am. As as Austin said, he's from a

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<v Speaker 2>small town where he where he'll die in a small town.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they got they got a mural of him in Seymour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, shout out to Seymore, Indiana. Absolutely. Our signal goes

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<v Speaker 2>as north to see More, Indiana. So that's how close,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how close we are. Hopefully he's listening, Yeah, shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to I mean, look, I get it, he feels

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<v Speaker 2>as if he's been around a long time. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think what he needs to understand is that, yes, you

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<v Speaker 2>are in Indiana Hoosier, and you mentioned Hoosier thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>times in this weird statement that you put out, But

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<v Speaker 2>nobody really connects you with the Pacers. They connect you

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<v Speaker 2>with the Indiana Hoosiers, the actual, you know, the college team.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, I think he's a little jealous, and I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. You know, he's done a lot in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants to be noticed, and he's taken jabs at

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<v Speaker 2>Pat McAfee, starting a little beef to see if you

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<v Speaker 2>know the old guard, the older crowd will be I

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<v Speaker 2>guess anti McAfee and pro John Cougar. So anyways, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a weird post with the texts. It's very weird. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very very weird. But anyhow, we got to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the hour break. We've got one more

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<v Speaker 2>hour left, four more hours total before it's done. So

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<v Speaker 2>for me here at seven ninety, so let's have some fun,

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<v Speaker 2>give a lot right here on Sports Talk seven ninety