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Always read the leafless 24 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:04.079 Oh hey. 25 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.000 It's that squirrel staring at you through the window because 26 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:10.480 you're late with the peanuts. Today, Ali Ward back with 27 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:14.359 an extremely digital episode. We have a full length version 28 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.079 if you have more time. That's length in the show notes. 29 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.159 But this is an episode of Smologies, which means it's shorter, 30 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:24.280 it's safe for classrooms, it's safe for work, no swear words, 31 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.000 and a little bit more compact of a digest of 32 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:29.079 an episode. So if you want the full length, it's 33 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:31.680 in the show notes. If you're hear for smologies, stick around. 34 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.879 You're in the right place. Okay, Ali, you say down word. 35 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:38.560 We love snail funerals and coyote ghosts. But let's bump 36 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:40.480 this into the age of the World Wide Web, shall we? 37 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.319 So we are today, I get my head out of 38 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.560 the annals of dusty natural history books, into the ones, 39 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:49.040 into the zeros, and into the head of a genius 40 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:52.920 programmer and designer and entrepreneur. Buckle up to hear your 41 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.159 old dad out of her comfort zone and into the 42 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:59.799 matrix so architectural technology. I know you are definitely thinking 43 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:03.000 that this is an episode about how arches are built 44 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:06.719 or glass buildings with solar panel windows. I know, but 45 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.800 watch out, that is not it at all at all. 46 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:14.080 So archie means having or conceived of is having a single, 47 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:19.080 unified overall design and texture comes from the Greek for 48 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:23.960 chief weaver or builder, and then technology is also from 49 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:27.520 the Greek meaning art or craft, coming from weave. So 50 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.719 the tech in architect and technology are the same tech. 51 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:35.439 So archetechnology. You'll hear more on that now. Okay, I 52 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.879 don't know beans about programming, and when things start to 53 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.879 get over the average or in my case, below average 54 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.280 person's head, I'm going to stop and just clue us 55 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:45.759 all in for a second, just to get up to 56 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.520 speed so no one's left behind. Now, this ologist is 57 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:51.719 just about to become your new hero for the week. 58 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.400 Leading up to this interview, I just had notts in 59 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.199 my stomach about how cool he was and how little 60 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.919 I understood about programming and just want to ask him. 61 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.680 But he is as patient and as gracious as a 62 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:07.120 genius could possibly be, and we chatted all about the 63 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:11.759 value of hands on tinkering and different programming languages and 64 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:15.039 what they do and how to start coding at any age, 65 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.479 advice he gives kiddos and grown ups, and being part 66 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:23.879 of technological movements, how he's worked with everyone from Kanye 67 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:26.879 to Rihana and more, what the future will look like, 68 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:32.240 and why being flexible and collecting varied life experiences is 69 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:35.159 the key to excellence. So cozy up and get ready 70 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.280 for your mind to be blown and your heart to 71 00:03:38.319 --> 00:04:00.879 be warmed. By architectural technologist Idris Sandus Bold algy knowlogy, Okay, 72 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.400 let's get right into it. And how would you define 73 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:07.080 an architectural technologist or someone who doesn't know? 74 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.520 Yeah, so architectural technologists or more like you know important 75 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:15.639 like digital architect is really this like term that I 76 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:20.279 coined around applying the concepts, the ideations and the design 77 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:25.279 thinking that goes into you know, architecture and applying those 78 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:29.680 two digital systems. Right, So it's about understanding like data 79 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:31.319 rams ten principles of designs. 80 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:34.319 Side note the ten principles of design by Data Rams, 81 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:37.560 which I will list very quickly for context for this episode. 82 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:41.279 Good design is innovative. Good design makes a product useful. 83 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:45.480 Good design is aesthetic. Good design makes a product understandable. 84 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:49.560 Good design is unobtrusive. Good design is honest. Good design 85 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:53.160 is long lasting. Good design is throw down to the 86 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:57.920 last detail. Good design is environmentally friendly, and good design 87 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:02.040 is as little design as possible, so less is more 88 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:05.720 something to consider before adding a bunch of glittering clip 89 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.199 art and comic sans headers to your web patress. Clutter 90 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.959 be gone? And when did you become so curious? Oh? 91 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.319 I think I have always been a curious kid, you know. 92 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:19.800 I remember being six seven eight, you know, growing up, 93 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.720 we were, you know, financially deprived, and my mom would 94 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:27.199 always have to buy new controllers because I would always 95 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:29.879 break them. And you know, just look at oh, okay, cool, 96 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.920 these are what transistors are. And I would look at 97 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:33.560 a PCB board PS. 98 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:37.639 PCB is a printed circuit board and no, I have 99 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:40.720 never taken one apart myself. And yes, I just had 100 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:43.720 to look up what a PCB was. I'm not a shaped. 101 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.319 I would look at it and reroute everything and connect 102 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.879 this to the USB and then take the USB to 103 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:51.800 this and then I remember this one time I created 104 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:55.120 a I took a remote and then I basically re 105 00:05:55.319 --> 00:06:00.319 routed and reprogrammed in Java the abnity for me to 106 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.879 point that at our ceiling fan and I could change 107 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.399 the speed of the fad right and so like I 108 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.279 had always been curious. 109 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:12.639 Well, when did you go from you know, hardware and 110 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:17.360 taking apart controllers and changing their frequency and into coding 111 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:19.800 and into kind of software, Like when did you make 112 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:20.800 that jump? 113 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:23.079 I started learning how to code in fact, at the 114 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.680 age of eleven and went to a library for almost 115 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.079 two years straight, only missed three days and learned everything. 116 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.199 And I saw the differences. When I was in Compton, 117 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:34.560 I was reading legacy programming languages. 118 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.399 Okay, I wasn't sure if legacy was the actual name 119 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.560 of a programming language, so I had to look it 120 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.040 up and wow, okay, No, So a legacy language as 121 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.040 opposed to a modern one is older and usually not 122 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.000 the base for today's coding. But it's really important to 123 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:54.639 know because new technology sometimes has to interact with a 124 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.000 legacy language that may be the base for other programs. Also, 125 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.800 please pardon this aside up top, but I just want 126 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.000 to get some programming basics just out of the way 127 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:07.199 for context so no one feels lost, and also full 128 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:10.399 disclosure because I needed to look it up to understand it. Also, 129 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.120 I'm going to go quick, So first off, machine language 130 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:18.160 is chattering via binary code, so ones and zeros, and 131 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:21.720 those are expressed via tens of thousands of transistors that 132 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.560 flip on and off to relay those ones and zeros. Now, 133 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.000 a programming language is a way for us to tell 134 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:30.160 those ones and zeros how to behave and what to 135 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.800 accomplish for us. So just remember the task of a 136 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:37.199 thousand steps begins with a single beat boop. Life is 137 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:39.759 just a series of tiny beat boops that can change 138 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.120 the world. Now, some of the first programming trivia alert 139 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.319 was around the year eight hundred in modern day Baghdad 140 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:51.319 and involved an automata, which was a programmable steam flute. 141 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.040 Priorities got to get those flute jams in. Now. In 142 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:57.319 the seventeen hundreds, we had punch cards that helped operate 143 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:01.680 jackhard textile looms. Some of the first computers in NASA's 144 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.079 history were women crunching numbers behind the scenes to figure 145 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:09.839 out flight paths and fuel needs and programming the first 146 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.399 electronic general purpose digital computer for the US Army in 147 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.279 the nineteen forties. Fast forwarding to the last couple of decades, 148 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.199 let's have a very brief simplification of what a programming 149 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:22.759 language is. It essentially means how plain text or what's 150 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.399 called source code is formatted and written to tell the 151 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:29.720 machine how to flip those transistors making all those ones 152 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.240 and zeros to get stuff done. So anyway, thank you 153 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.559 for bearing with that history and context. Idris was at 154 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:38.600 the library at the age of eleven, feeding his hungry 155 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:42.080 brain with legacy programming languages, as one does. 156 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:44.159 I just started going to library and read and read 157 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.279 and read to the universe. In God's grace. I would 158 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:49.799 end up meeting a Google engineer that happened to be 159 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:52.720 there that day and saw me reading my books, and 160 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:55.799 that was really the start for me in this space. 161 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.480 I know you were in the library, you're studying code, 162 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.120 you were what maybe thirteen at the time, and you 163 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:02.600 started entering for Google. 164 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:06.000 Yes, various points in my life I was being allowed 165 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:09.039 to be in spaces that I normally wouldn't have been in. Right, 166 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.879 So me being a thirteen year old kid with somebody 167 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:15.799 that you know, believed in me so much and saw 168 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:19.120 what I was doing to let me have an opportunity 169 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:23.159 to see how things actually worked, and being able to 170 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:27.000 go into the Google building and go in and see 171 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.320 how ideas. Then went to the drawing board, and the 172 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:33.120 drawing board then went on the interface designers, and then 173 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.000 from there it going to like the programmers and the 174 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.480 programmers working with the marketing team, and the marketing team 175 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.799 distributing the app that was built. I just got to 176 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:43.399 see so much and I was like, oh wow. It 177 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.159 was like being a Willy Wonkers factory. And I was like, Wow, 178 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:48.919 this is how it works. I want to create this. 179 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:51.320 How did you like the Chocolate Factor, Charlie. 180 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:54.320 I think it's the most wonderful place in the whole world. 181 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.519 And that would basically shape my whole life around ownership. 182 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.600 And one thing that I practiced a lo is vertical integration. 183 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.799 Right now, Vertical integration is a form of business in 184 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:08.000 which a business owner or entity controls the whole product 185 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:11.960 life cycle of their creation. Right That's what Apple does. 186 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:15.159 Right So, Apple as a company has a multitude of 187 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:18.440 different devices right now, for every one of those devices 188 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.159 that they have, there's an integrated operating system that they 189 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.320 created for each of those products. Right So, if you 190 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.960 have an Apple Watch, it runs what watch os. If 191 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:32.440 you have an iPhone it runs iOS. If you which 192 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.639 they own these two which they own. If you have 193 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:38.759 a Mac computer, you're running mac os, which they also own, 194 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:41.960 and if you have a TV, it runs what Apple 195 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:46.440 at exactly aos? Right, Okay, cool. That's why everything always 196 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.879 came down to me. So when you ask you, I 197 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.320 have to give that preference before answering your question in 198 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.279 regards to how does that light bulb moment go to 199 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:57.320 an actual product? You know? For like me, I divide 200 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:00.279 things I do into two states. Right, there's I came 201 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:05.080 up with this term called aspirational necessitation. Now, aspirational necessitation 202 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:08.840 just simply means if you look around you, you would 203 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:11.639 notice that the products that are aspirational, the stuff you 204 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:15.600 do not need, are the most highly priced and are 205 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:18.480 in fact the most beautiful design things that you can 206 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.879 lay your eyes on. Whereas the products that are a 207 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:26.840 necessity and to you roadblock street sides, pedestrian buttons, parking meters, 208 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.799 all of these things are designed very very poorly and 209 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.519 with very little design thing. And in fact, the moment 210 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.600 that these systems are installed, they're already depreciating in value. 211 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.799 Whereas on your phone, if you really think about it, 212 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.440 it appreciates in value. Why because there's software updates. So 213 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.480 why haven't we designed city infrastructure and things that are 214 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:51.480 a necessity around us with the same thing. Could you 215 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:56.360 imagine all these tech companies making new cars all the time, 216 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:01.039 making a car be smaller, faster, more fit, but no 217 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.919 one is thinking about the road on which the car 218 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.639 is drive to. Yeah, that hasn't been change. How about 219 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:10.120 we just make efficient more roads. 220 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:15.080 Right, so aspirational necessitation, making the things that we all 221 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:19.120 use as nice as the things only five percent of 222 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:23.200 people can afford. Can you imagine that world of just 223 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:27.960 beautiful efficiency? Something that is really striking about you as 224 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:32.279 you are so obviously like focused and passionate about what 225 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.519 you do, and you're also so good at having an 226 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:38.360 opportunity and taking full advantage of it, you know, of 227 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.879 showing up when the opportunity kind of knocks. And are 228 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:45.960 you ever called to give advice to people who you 229 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.759 know are have less confidence or aren't sure that they 230 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:53.360 could accomplish anything near what you have? Asking for myself 231 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:57.039 because I will shamelessly take any and all advice this 232 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.799 dude has to offer, but also for you know, the youth. 233 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:01.919 Yeah, I mean I think even now, Like I was 234 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.080 just reading a Wall Street Journal article earlier about how 235 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.320 like the coronavirus is going to literally shift the paradigm 236 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:13.799 for an unfinished generation social skills gen C. Like these 237 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.639 kids that are now eight and nine, ten or even 238 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.799 like five or six, they're going to grow up in 239 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:23.200 a completely different world now because of coronavirus, you know, 240 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:26.559 And so what it means to be social is going 241 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.080 to be different. What it means to interact facetiming or 242 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:35.159 video calling or even volumetric like you know, certain things 243 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.840 have to happen for us to go into new ages 244 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:43.759 of time, right, scientists have to try and get us 245 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.440 to the moon, and you know, create a new technology 246 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.159 and mistakenly create microwave, and now we all have microwaves 247 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.039 in our house. That scene in Star Wars and New 248 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:56.279 Hope where you have Princess Leiah, you know R two 249 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.679 D two projecting her hologram and her to obi Wan 250 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:04.320 can help obi Wan Kanumbi, You're our only hope for 251 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:07.080 us to get to that level, for us to get 252 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.759 to the shift, certain things needed to take place in 253 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:13.440 the world. And so ultimately, like I'm a huge spiritualist 254 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.159 and stuff. So what I tell like people around me, 255 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:19.559 whether it's now in terms of advice or whatever, or 256 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:22.720 in the past, is like there's always a blessing behind 257 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.200 every single thing that happens. And when we talk about 258 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.240 what's going on in the world, what's happening right now 259 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.919 is going to force that to happen now because we're 260 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.240 going to have to rethink media. When you know, I 261 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:36.320 asked me, like, what advice do I give to people? 262 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:40.080 It's that advice is simply just be dynamic. Even when 263 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:41.759 I have like kids come up to me like what 264 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:44.840 programming languages? I feel that if I tell children, if 265 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:48.000 I tell young kids what programming languages they should they 266 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.320 shouldn't force Especially when those kids coming out to me 267 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.000 are like minorities, I feel like I'm not giving them 268 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.320 the right information, the right information for me to say 269 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:59.919 that those kids would be learn how to be dyna 270 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.399 because one programming language is not going to be it. 271 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.879 You know, new programming language will be created, but you 272 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:09.720 know what won't be new, Your ability to dynamically think, 273 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.240 train that muscle in your brain to be able to 274 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:16.559 be adaptable. Information of the current is by default already 275 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.080 information of the past. As we're communicating right now, the 276 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.600 things we're saying, things we're talking about right now even 277 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.600 involves to mention a new technology that has a six 278 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.759 week shelf life. A year from now, we got on 279 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:33.320 new iPhones and then we're talking about something else. My 280 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.799 advice to any kid or anyone, really I feel like 281 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:37.799 we're all kids. 282 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:41.000 I says that we must all accept that we are 283 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:44.320 children and keep learning and asking questions, which you know 284 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:47.639 I love. Now, speaking of asking questions, we're about to 285 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:51.080 ask questions submitted by folks on patreon dot com slash ologies. 286 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:53.080 But before we do, each episode, we donate to a 287 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.960 charity or a cause of the ologists choosing, and that 288 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.840 donation was made possible by sponsors of the podcast, who 289 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:01.480 you may hear about. Now, do you know. 290 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.200 What real power is? 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Can I ask you a few 302 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:36.919 questions from listeners who knew that you were coming on? Yes, 303 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:41.000 of course, please, yes, I'll run through like lightning around. 304 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:44.240 Michelle Jacobs wants to know if you have a favorite 305 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:45.600 programming language and why. 306 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:50.360 Yeah, I mean personally, I mean I started off with Java, 307 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:53.200 and Java is one of the most you know, it's 308 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.879 not only just one of the oldest programming languages that 309 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.639 we I still currently use today, but more importantly, it's 310 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.519 a programming language that is like the grandfather of all 311 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:06.720 other programming languages. Right, there's different forms of programming languages. 312 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:11.440 There's different languages, and then there's different like broken versions 313 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:13.759 of those languages. Right, So you think of like English, 314 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.200 and then there's like the British English, then there's the 315 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:19.759 American English. Then there's like Patois, you know, and then 316 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:23.039 there's like Broke Pichon English. Right. And in programming, there's 317 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.480 a very wide array for a different application of what 318 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.440 you're doing. There are like array languages, they're like assembly. 319 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.440 There's just so many there's compiled languages. 320 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.799 Okay, I looked it up in Wikipedia lists over fifty 321 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:40.799 types of programming languages. How exciting. Why are there so many? 322 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.680 It depends on what you're doing. But personally, my one 323 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:46.680 of my favorite programming languages is not Java. Actually that's 324 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.279 just a language I started with. I really love c 325 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.720 I love c sharp, And the reason why I love 326 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.440 c sharp is obviously it has way more memory advantages 327 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.240 and speed improvements over Java. But the thing I love 328 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.440 about c more most important is because it's really widely accepted. 329 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:05.039 I can compile that on my map computer running like 330 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:08.799 Bootcamp or running parallel desktop, side by side with the 331 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.000 computer and platforms that I in the past that I've 332 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.640 used a lot of Unity, which is a game engine. 333 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.119 For a lot of visualizations we've created in the past, 334 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:21.559 we've built them in Unity using c sharp. So I love, love, 335 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.440 love c sharp. C sharp is one of my favorite languages. 336 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.400 But there's a new programming language that Google created called 337 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:31.200 Flutter that I love so much because I've been using 338 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:34.200 a lot of Facebook React Native. So the Facebook has 339 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.680 two major programming languages. One is called React and one 340 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.039 is called React Native. And by the way, before people 341 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:41.599 grow me, because I know this is going to happen. 342 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:44.839 Let me just reiterate and say, I know that Facebook 343 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.680 React is not a programming language, and it's a library, 344 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:50.720 but it's pretty much a programming language. We can agree 345 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:53.680 to disagree. It's pretty much a language. It's a JavaScript library, 346 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:57.039 but it is a programming language and as it's currently used. 347 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.599 Okay, from what I gather. Boot camp side note is 348 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.720 that helps install Windows OS on Macintosh computers, which, like 349 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.839 other types of boot Camp, sounds like a sweaty endeavor. 350 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:11.400 And a library is a bunch of reusable programming routines 351 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:13.599 that a coder can grab so they don't have to 352 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:16.519 physically type all of that source code out like they 353 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:18.960 know what it does and what to use, so you know, 354 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:21.200 you can copy and paste the basics to avoid needing 355 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:24.559 like bionic risks to peck out all those ding dank 356 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:28.000 backslashes and such. So these shortcuts are valuable given that 357 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:31.000 experienced programmers can make upward of one hundred bucks an hour. 358 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.960 In case you're interested in learning to code. 359 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:35.839 There's never been a more exciting time to get into 360 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:38.480 programming like there is now. You know, I'm twenty two, 361 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:40.519 but I remember being eleven years old having to go 362 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:43.960 to a library and read books there. And now there's 363 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:46.640 so many free courses online. There's platforms like you to Me, 364 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:51.160 there's con Academy, there's Treehouse that teach you Java from 365 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.160 start to finish, that teach you Swift, which is Apple's 366 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.319 official programming language that I think a lot of people 367 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.119 should start learning the reality of being a programmer is 368 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.880 you're always learning, just like the English language. You're learning 369 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.920 new words all day and I'm learning a lot. I 370 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:08.920 even sometimes google things or go on YouTube. 371 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.359 Heads up this question and answer killed me dead. And 372 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.559 last list question Mad's Clement wants to know what's the 373 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.400 silliest thing that you've ever coded, Like a ridiculous website, 374 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:21.119 just something that you just really wanted to make. 375 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.279 I remember this one time I was developing an app 376 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:25.680 for a client and then I put an Easter egg 377 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:27.720 in the right corner, so you would have to, like 378 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:29.720 I think you would long press it, tap or twice again, 379 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:32.880 and then long press it again. And it was just 380 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.799 like this Kanye meme that would pop up and He'll 381 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:42.720 be like, it was just so funny to me. But yeah, 382 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.440 I mean, I think what I love about programming is like, 383 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:47.640 no matter what language, you're using the ability to like 384 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:50.160 comment in line. That's what I feel like I'm here 385 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.200 to do. I'm here to show people that, like I'm 386 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.759 a jack of so many different trades, I am a 387 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.480 jack of many trades and confined by none. You know, 388 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.200 I don't desire to be a master of any, but 389 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:05.920 I neither decide to be confined by none. So, like, 390 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:08.720 you know, I feel like I've been put on this 391 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:11.440 earth to show people like, yes, I'm an architect that 392 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.680 can design like an experience for Kanye and do stage 393 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.000 designs and build Snoop Dogg store. But I can collaborate 394 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:24.400 with Fency and Prada and IBM on other projects and 395 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:27.880 make it okay, make that the new norm. I know 396 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:29.880 I'm not. Then there's people that might be listening to 397 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.640 this and be like, he's not a conventional programmer or 398 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:35.480 you know, whatever they might like say about this, But 399 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:38.480 one thing that they can't say is wow, he's so 400 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:43.400 multi crafted and multifaceted. He is, you know, part of 401 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:47.880