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edition of O t BB and T Bob, Jake Alandri
vir Al and Taylor Chef. You know your day got
the whole crew? What's up guys? Happy Postmother's Day weekend? Oh,
everybody had a great weekend. Uh topics go that we'll
get into today. Obviously pretty great both in the winning
of the baseball front and in the well. It seems
like the Derek Carr retirement was met with uh joyous celebration.
So we'll get into all of that and more of
you and hang out YouTube dot com one on four
to five ESPN. Jakie, what's up, dude?
Speaker 3: How are you doing to doing good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those times where a retirement's not
a sad thing.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and it's it's it's almost like so much
not a sad thing that I do feel myself empathizing
somewhat with it, but we we'll get into all of that.
Is that a bear Jones waiting in line for the
Porter Potty shirt? It is, Oh my gosh, that is fantastic.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, that's an iconic LSU baseball moment.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it on a T shirt, you know,
I like customized T shirts.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's a bear waiting on the John.
Speaker 2: Uh, Malandra, what's up girl? How was your Mother's Day? Weekend?
Speaker 5: I did the baseball game yesterday, the one that we lost,
So it.
Speaker 2: Was your fault, your it might have been my fault.
Speaker 5: I hadn't been on the board all weekend long, so
it might have been my fault. But yeah, I slept
until like eleven am somehow on Saturday, Derek Carr retired.
We won the series.
Speaker 2: Great weekend, great weekend. What about you? Did you lead
any LSU losses here or were you a part of
some wins? So?
Speaker 6: Actually neither? Okay, so we uh we're neutral this weekend.
I didn't I didn't contribute to a win or a loss,
so thank me, don't thank me whatever, But no, it
was a good weekend overall spend some time with the
mom for Mother's Day yesterday.
Speaker 2: So we had a good weekend, Jake, how did your
birthday weekend end up with everybody in town and whatnot?
Did your did your anybody stick around for Mother's Day?
What'd we get into?
Speaker 4: No, everybody left on Saturday. They had different places they
had to be. But we had a lot of fun,
spend a lot of great family time together, had a
great ping pong tournament, slash battles as we always do.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, who won?
Speaker 3: Katie's sister Becca always lefty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Katie and her in the championship as always
how it always ends up playing out.
Speaker 3: But no, we had we had a lot of fun.
We had some crawfish.
Speaker 4: On got I guess Friday evening we had some crawfish
and they love Superior because they're all from Louisiana. But
they've moved across the country in California, Colorado, Florida. Uh
So anytime they get back into Louisiana, they won't Superior.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I get I's spent about three
hours there yesterday for Mother's Day as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were at the ballpark all day. The I
think it was called like the Mother's Day mash or
something tournament.
Speaker 2: I I I.
Speaker 3: We had the.
Speaker 4: Moms, and the moms wanted to be the ball field,
so we played ball.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, so that's how you convinced him.
You just slap a Mother's Day a branding on top
of it.
Speaker 3: It was our first ever kid pitch tournament. Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2: How did it? How did it go?
Speaker 3: Let's good?
Speaker 4: We lost, We got walked off in the semi finals,
but for our first time out.
Speaker 3: Shout out to the lug Nuts. Pretty proud of the boys.
Speaker 2: Saw on social media. Dude, y'all are up there all weekend. Yeah,
we were there all weekend. I mean you know, I
guess you know you bring mimosas or whatever. That makes
it better for sure. But well, shout out to the
lug Nuts. Shout out to all the lug Nuts moms.
All right, let's go ahead and dive into this weekend
series as LSU. How about it does exactly what they
need to gotta have it at home against the number
two team in the entire country of those damn dirty Hogs,
and they manage to win the series, and once again,
the weather on Friday night forces a ten pm start,
and as coach j said after the game, there is
not a team that is better in the country at
one am. Then you're LSU Tigers as they end up
walking it off in the tenth Another stellar start from
Kate Anderson, a great job from Zach Cowan holding the
rope late, dealing with some sketchy situations to keep that
game tied up. And then Bear when he's not waiting
in line to use the porter potty, tagging up on
a shallow fly ball, barely beating the tag, making it home,
walking it off. Tigers win and what a win? What
a win that it was? Yeah, I don't know, man,
They just say he's just got some these like. Don't
get me wrong, I hate these nine pm first pitches
because what they do to the live home crowd. Though
again those who stay are really rowdy and really about it.
But there is something wonderfully weird and magical about experiencing
the Tennessee walk off and now this walk off in
this fashion. Just two of the more fun regular season
games that I can ever think of.
Speaker 4: And y'all correct me if I'm wrong. I think both
were at one seventeen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they end at the exact same time.
Speaker 2: What, Yeah, oh I missed that little and.
Speaker 6: They actually both barely got them in because you can't
start a game after ten pm, and they were both
like ninete first.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's you know, it's aar Jones ending both as well. Yeah,
it's something Era one seventeen. It is something that like
you don't ever want to have to deal with. But
the rain here this spring's been even more so insane
than it typically is. Yeah, right, so it's the only
way you've been able to get these games in. And uh,
there's so many different storylines to get into with this
game alone. I mean just coming back and scratching and
clawing and scoring those runs like you did in the
seventh when it felt like Arkansas had hit their groove
and you couldn't really get anything going after you scored
your second run I believe it was in the fourth,
and so you don't you know, the fifth and the
sixth is looking lonely out there, Arkansas is hitting their groove,
and so you come back. Uh, but then just to
continue to have Zak Cowan go out there like you
mentioned ta and he is just shoving and you know,
he pitches three inings only gives up two hits to
a really good lineup and it's such a luxury to have.
Speaker 3: And look, I know he gave up a home run
against A and M.
Speaker 4: And that tells you how good he's been that we
were all like shocked and surprised he gave up like
a big hit. It's the sec that's going to happen.
That's how good he's been. And he does hold the rope,
like you said, long enough for you to make a
play and not the person you would think that would
score on a shallow sacrifice fly.
Speaker 2: But that bear was loving. He was lumbering. That is
how I would describe it. Yes, it's like watching an
eighteen wheeler roll down hill in the in the.
Speaker 3: How the brakes were gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah that like the what would you call the bed,
the hitch whatever, like the back Yeah, the trailer, thank you, jeez.
Brain's out working. The trailer's kind of rattling, it's kind
of on two wheels, like about to fall off. And
then he finds a way to get in safely at home,
which again I love going for it, you know, go
for it, make them make a play after they did
win the game. Hell yeah, man, end it while you can.
Alondra what do you think about game one?
Speaker 5: I mean, Kate Anderson, we say it all the time,
but he's just so unreal. And I know a couple
of weeks ago there is some questions about his consistency.
Not for me, but there are some questions about his consistency.
This is his fourth game in a row where he
has double digit strikeouts, his eighth game of the season
with double digit strikeouts out of thirteen games that he's
pitched in. So he's just pitching out a ridiculous Yeah.
Speaker 2: Him and I intdn't thrown all the consistency questions out
of the window.
Speaker 5: Yeah they're insane, but yeah, great game Friday night. I
didn't get to finish all of it because, like game, but.
Speaker 2: You fell asleep. Yeah I actually did not, but I didn't.
I trying to hold on me on a brutal bender.
Go my go on my Twitter, Taylor, and you can
find the picture of the handle of bullet bourbon that
was completely full at the start of the game.
Speaker 5: It's going to be my question. Yes, no, you finished
that by your not finished, but you did all that
by yourself.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's crazy. It was awful. Yeah, I was dying
on Saturday. I bet and me and my wife were like,
why did we do that last night? Because you drinking?
Did you drink whisky? Was you know? We got just
like a sitting on the couch Friday bender. That thing
was full the handle.
Speaker 5: I meant to reply and be like, did you that's
not all you.
Speaker 2: It was rough to the point where I was kind
of I woke up. I was like, oh wait, d
hell she would And then I looked at my Twitter
and I tweeted when they won, like let's like let's
go like, oh yeah, of course, yeah I remember that.
Yeah they won? Hell yeah do that walk up? That
was crazy.
Speaker 5: I did, like wake up.
Speaker 2: Baseball will do to you though, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I woke up like in the middle and I was like, oh,
they're tired.
Speaker 4: And I try, but I couldn't look full here like
I was. I was in the ninth and I was like,
I thought I was up. I thought I was awake,
and I just woke up. And it was the next
morning that happened to me.
Speaker 2: The Tennessee game. I think I was the ninth when
I actually fell asleep watching my laptop.
Speaker 6: If it wouldn't have been for the wedding, I was
at a fella sleep too. I was able to actually
listen to the ending, like on the way home, and
like as I walked home.
Speaker 2: Side, Oh yeah, wait, fun wedding leaving at one am.
Speaker 6: No, I left at eleven thirty, listen to it on
the way home, and like by the time I gave it,
I'm saying, like, if.
Speaker 7: It wasn't for that wedding, I wouldn't have made it
all the end, Like.
Speaker 3: Was out there dance until one am.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so just you know, another magical Friday night
Game one win to set the tone for the series
in Arkansas. And then Game two. Can I mean it
was just a coronation more so than anything. Uh. The
bats jumped on them early, never let up. Massive day
for Jake Brown, two home runs, five Ribbies, ca gets
his first sec home run of the season. Here's a
great hont Palmer Sat Else, you got the leadoff man
on six of the seven innings they score all six times.
Of course, only seven innings because thirteen to three they
run rule them. And then what more can you about?
Ethan Fryhood a big weekend.
Speaker 3: He was text to Game two.
Speaker 7: Jake Brown home runs on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a fine not listening because that's what
I started out. But the yeah, so so Saturday, like
after the tension of Friday, Saturday's game was so welcome.
One of those games where you can just sit back
and enjoy.
Speaker 5: It and it's like the first one in a while
where you're like, Okay, we we got You're not having
like a heart attack in the middle of the game.
And you know, coming into the weekend, what was who
were like in the conversation for best teams in the
country Texas, Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee, Like that went out the
window a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tennessee's yeah, but everybody said to your point in
laundro like, everybody's like Arkansas might be the most talented
team top to bottom.
Speaker 2: That was the most complete what everybody they are?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: On the Jay Johnson Show Monday night, like I was,
I was doing the show and Jaco's Yeah. You know
when the rankings came out they had Arkansas at seven, Jagos,
I would have put him at number one. He goes,
I think, I think right now, Arkansas's best team in
the country.
Speaker 5: That was on Monday, So well, everything else like in
terms of the SEC kind of went your way to
because Texas got they dropped the series to Florida and
then and this is just funny matter.
Speaker 2: First series win, no, right.
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: They played MISSOO and every.
Speaker 5: Everybody but Texas, A and M. Yeah, And I was
gonna say, this has nothing really to do with it,
but I just love that Missouri beat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't just beat them, but like won these
series almost swept them.
Speaker 3: They did, they did.
Speaker 7: It doesn't it wasn't close.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 5: They swept a lot.
Speaker 7: Nine to one yesterday in game three.
Speaker 6: They want a close Game one, our game two, but
game three was like, I mean Game one was like
nine to five.
Speaker 2: The games weren't really what is this conference really? You
can go from losing to textas A and M to
beating arctsas on and A and M goes, you're beating
Luting swept by Missou and then Sanity.
Speaker 6: If you remember, Rivers was in here Thursday and she
was like Mississippi State's their last series in the years.
She's like, Missouri's gonna throw everything they have. I don't
want Mississippi State to be like one win.
Speaker 2: Right after the show.
Speaker 6: Now, right after the show, like MIHR and Musso we're
talking about in the hallway, and I was like, man,
that'd be funny if they lose to A. And M
Andre like that's not gonna happen. I'm like, yeah, but
if anybody's gonna do it, it's Texas. A and M
didn't think it was going to happen three times.
Speaker 2: So okay. So I want to get more into the
SEC picture as a hole in a little bit. But
if we go back to game two again, uh, just
dominant and and and to me, you gotta highlight Anthony
Iinson six innings, no runs, eleven k's one walk, only,
ninety three pitches, sixty five strikes, and they're just I mean,
talk about ascending. He continued to get better and better,
and uh, this is where Hunt Moose Alandra like y'all
who have a better understanding of college baseball as a
hole and all the different combinations in play. I mean,
is there a better starting two than Kate Anderson Anthony
Iinson right now? I don't think so because what I
I look at it. I mean, you you look at
the lineups that they've done it against recently. I mean
I think it was Hunt who wrote that, Like Tennessee Arkansas.
This is going into this weekend series basically saying Tennessee
A and M and one other team and including Arkansas,
saying like these are the best lineups in the country. Yeah,
and they've been great against these first couple and now
if they do it again this weekend, then there could
be no doubt. Well they did it again this weekend.
So like, yes, when Anderson and Iinson are in the
zone like they are now and those are the ras,
what are plummeting? I think they're both down into the
low threes now maybe what might break that barrier into
the twos. Either way, like going to tournament time, this
is gonna give you a chance against anybody, regional, super regional.
This is going to put you in a great position
no matter who you end up facing. And well in
uh crucially with this series win, you put yourself in
a great spot going to the South Carolina Series for
a national seed. Be at home where you are twelve
and two in conference this year.
Speaker 4: As far as missing bats, t Bob Kate Anderson number
two in the country in strikeouts at one hundred and fourteen,
Anthony Jinson number four in the country and strikeouts at
one hundred and five and the leader Liam Doyle Tennessee.
He has one more strikeout than k but he has
one more appearance than Cave.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 4: So you've got the number two and number four guys.
As far as missing bats in the country.
Speaker 2: The yeah, so no, so there's not a better There's
not a better combination in the entire country. Then, and
so Saturday awesome, and then you get to Sunday and
it's it's it's a bit of a sour note to
end such a great weekend on because you lose. But
I did think there was a lot of good on Sunday.
I mean, obviously you would have hoped that the bats
could have continued what they did Saturday, But I mean
the story of the game was kind of leaving guys randed.
Your best hitters just couldn't find it. Curiel, Jones and
Fry combined to go eight or zero for eleven with
eight k's. You finish just three to sixteen with runners
on one to nine with runners in scoring position.
Speaker 3: You walk nine.
Speaker 2: Guys walked a lot. I did like though. I will
say though to me, Chase Shores was a big bright
spot and one that again it's a loss, So that sucks,
but one that really will matter going forward, right, like
seeing his continued kind of rise, the confidence that he's
playing with right now, he gives you three and a
third one run four k's that's going to be critical
in these tournament settings. And he's starting to achieve a
level of consistency now. And I know the pen ends
up giving up. You know, they were close of getting
out of that jam, kind of playing with fire, and
I know they end up giving up a couple runs
to make it seven four, but to hold the line
like they did after you had the big inning early
on from Evans was it two or three when they
played it four? Right, And I thought there were some
good stuff, is all I'm saying. You're just wanting bats.
So the bets are great in the other parts of
the weekend, right, So it is what it is there
and you go to a pin and you're scenes some
guys coming out of the pin and improve Jase Short's
highlighting that. I mean, Myers came and got that big out.
So yeah, there's uh, it was. It was not all
bad on Sunday, even though you did allow Arkansas to
salvage one went back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm I'm with you on Chase Shore's
you're going to need him like whatever this season ends
up being, you're going to need him.
Speaker 4: Uh, And looks like he is going to be out
of the pin, like it doesn't look like he's going
to be that third starter anymore. But he came in
on Friday, he gave you over an inning. He gives
you over three innings on Sunday, and you're bringing somebody
in that all the positives that we talked about as him,
you know, being a starter, those might not have worked
out like we thought this year. But now he does
feel like he's getting more comfortable in the pin, And
so I'm with you there even like that, Jane, like
you said, there with the bases load of Arkansas only
to push two across, like have a font No come
in and maybe that gives him some confidence. And so
Rizzy needed to get back out there because it did
not go his way on Saturday. So yeah, there's still
some positives in overall, as we always talk about, you
won the series.
Speaker 2: You won the series, and you win the series in
the context of win the series and you're in the
driver's seat for the National Seed, lose the series and
you're on the outside looking at right, and so you
are officially in the driver's seat. It's two more quad
one wins. It's a very good Arkansas team. And now
you'll have three quad one games against South Carolina on
the road, two of three nineteen SEC wins. That's gonna
get you one. Yeah. I feel like it's pretty much right.
Speaker 5: Like I don't want to jinx anything, but even at
this point, I feel like it's pretty much a lock.
Speaker 6: Well not if you didn't get to nineteen though, huh, yeah,
you need two wins next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're saying a locked if you get to nineteen. Yeah, yeah,
I agree. I think I agree. You know my Layman's
understanding of how this all works. I think that that
it's correct.
Speaker 5: I thought this was fun. Tigers with double digit home
runs this year, Bear Jones at sixteen, Ethan Fry at ten,
Stephen Mylom at ten, which is so crazy.
Speaker 7: I mean, that was big yesterday.
Speaker 6: He got the home run yesterday and he'd been in
a big swamp, so that was that was big.
Speaker 2: Damn. That's crazy.
Speaker 5: I just love that, like.
Speaker 2: At the right time.
Speaker 5: I just love that they're huge.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of the beauty of baseball is still
down right there isn't it that that that you know,
you can be the small guy and still hit for
power if you got the right technique. But so there
it is an LSU Arkansas Theories recap. I do want
to talk more about the SEC as a whole a
bit later on, but coming up next we got to
dive into the big news over the weekend, Derek Carr
officially hanging it up more off the bench. Next off
the bench, and you know what goes great with watching
your tigers woop Arkansas's ass delicious ice cold de secis
went great. Jake's birthday party on Thursday did started a
four day vender for me. That well, that wasn't great.
Speaker 3: But the point is that's not on seconds, that's not
on two seconds.
Speaker 2: All they need is to make delicious beer. And so
if you want to drink a delicious beer that's paired
for the spring, for the summer, for this upcoming tournament
where you're gonna be watching a hot, a high leverage baseball,
you're gonna be stressing. You know, it's a great stress
to leave. You get your delicious two seconds. You grab
you some limes, some salt. You lube up the next
slap that cell on there, drop the line inside and
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Speaker 4: Like the Bob said, it is the perfect perer to
pair with this time of the year, baseball, by the pull,
by the beach, summer vacation.
Speaker 3: There is nothing better.
Speaker 4: So go great do sechies today, Go grab your do sechies.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around sort of.
It's off the bench with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, why did uh? Can you hear me? Yeah,
my headphones are having my headphones are short. Now why
did uh? Why? Why? Why did the softball Championship get canceled?
Speaker 7: They couldn't play because the rain.
Speaker 6: What they did was the most competitive league in softball.
They just called it and gave them code champs co Champs.
I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 3: I think? Thank you?
Speaker 4: What Thanky's release said that the weather wouldn't allow them
to play and the future weather looked even worse, and
so they gave them co Champs.
Speaker 2: What would you have done, Taylors? Did you spoke of
this uh compromise with such obvious disdain?
Speaker 6: So hear me out played the game, played the game
in the rain.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 6: I mean there was some point in that day where
there was no raindom no nless you played at ten
o'clock at night.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're just the SEC champions. So without no no,
I know, I get it, but I'm saying but without
like any actual evidence, you're just you're just saying, I
have played the game. Yeah, yeah, I find.
Speaker 7: A way to play it.
Speaker 2: At some point.
Speaker 6: You have to find a way to find a way
to play it. You can't wait two days. You can't
play it on a Monday.
Speaker 2: Because the NCAA tournaments about it.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Okay, I mean if you look, if you want
to give somebody co chance, that's fine.
Speaker 7: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: I guess they just find this funny because like we
don't actually know if there was a break in the weather,
but you're just saying that, yeah there was at some point,
yeah exactly. Hell yeah, you have to play the game.
Play the game anyway. Uh so we'll get into softballs
else she's gonna be hosting a regional coming up. But
the big news of the weekend out of nowhere.
Speaker 6: When did this even hit Saturday? I was actually watching
the Sports Center when it when it popped out.
Speaker 2: And maybe the oddest part about this was something that
a Launder kind of alluded to as we were starting
the show, which is I kind of forgot about it somehow.
It was like massive news at the time, and then
when I got back in here to get the show
ready this morning, I was like, oh, yeah, wait a second,
like Derek Carr retired. Oh wow, that's like thirty minutes
right there. Oh man. But yes, Derek Carr out of
nowhere announcing on Saturday that he is deciding to call
it quits. And we can get into exactly what that
does to the cap. We can look at the final
car facts. It continue to be just kind of marveled
at the statistical disconnect between what his numbers actually were
here and how much he has disliked. But first, what
was everybody's reaction when you saw I thought it was
a I thought it was a troll job. I was
still very like obvious inebraided from the night before, and
somebody sent me something on Twitter and I was just like, Okay,
it's just a photo shop, and then no, it was not.
What was y all's reactions?
Speaker 4: I mean, I was surprised like everybody else, just because
we hadn't really heard that that was going to be
an option. We heard a lot of different things, and
you know, maybe a trade, maybe a straight up release,
maybe he sits on the roster and the Saints work
like he's not on the roster, like the Brown's gonna
do with Deshaun Watson. Like we talked about a lot
of different scenarios, but that's not really one that we
talked about.
Speaker 3: Like retirement.
Speaker 4: I know, for me, like it never really entered my
mind because it felt like he wanted to play. He
knew that playing in New Orleans wasn't really going to
be an option. Yeah, and now the shoulder stuff was.
It was all kind of weird because remember that was
kind of the same thing. It's like when we found out, we're.
Speaker 3: Like, what shoulder, Like it's still surgery, gonna miss the year,
Like that wasn't something we were expecting. But and I
know we'll get into it.
Speaker 4: But his retirement, you know, giving thirty million dollars in
salary cap relief that.
Speaker 2: We I mean, that's I think that's one of the
big reasons why nobody thought of retirement wasn't played at
all was that was a he had thirty His thirty
million dollars salary was guaranteed for injury. Fully, so like
he could have if he'd wanted to. And I know
that a lot of people just you know, everybody's gonna
victory lap on Derek Carr celebrate his demise. I understand
all that, But if he really wanted to, he could
have chilled this year and gotten thirty million. Yeah, because
he has the partial label tear, he has the degenerative
rotator cuff stuff, Like he could have set out, hey,
I'm hurt, gotten paid. It's like when think when Matt
Ryan did his year on CBS, but he did not
officially retire. He was still open to playing because the
culture paying him, they's allowed to pay him. So credit
to Carr, h saving you a significant amount of money
when he he definitely did not have to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean your cab goes from twenty three point
one million to around fifty three million. Yeah, So I
don't know the last time the New Orleans Saints have
had fifty three million dollars. And sure, I know free
agency anybody of worth outside of maybe one quarterback, which
I'm sure we'll get into is that doesn't necessarily matter
right now, but you've been in cap hell for so
long that thirty million dollars towards that cap certainly is
going to pay off somewhere down the road.
Speaker 2: Well, and now you finally have clarity on the dead
money situation as well, because you still are right now. Okay,
so we'll get into our actually before I go too
deep in the numbers. Ten reactions from you two, anything
you think to add.
Speaker 6: When I first saw it, my thought was kind of
what you said. What it was like, Okay, is this
a play by Derek Carr? Because I'm thinking, Okay, he's
going to retire, he's going to get his money, wait
for everything to happen, sign with another team. Then when
I saw that he had essentially walked away from already
million dollars, I was like, Okay, this is a little
bit different here, And I was like, maybe there's some
legitimate to the legitimacy to this. So, you know, I
was kind of when I first saw it, I was like, ah,
makes sense, another play by Derek Carr. But then when
I saw that he walked away from all the money,
I was like, you know, I don't I don't know
like maybe maybe there is a little bit something to this,
to the shoulder injury. So it's a it was a
little bit different, different feeling like throughout the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the and you know, it's not the hardest thing
to see outside looking in, because I do feel commident
that the shoulder injury is real. He is a partial
labrom tear and degenerative issues with his rotator cuff. Was
all very naturally, excell It's what I've been dealing with.
Speaker 6: Wors had the shoulder injury like the latter part of
his career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, and he can't even play. He said
he can't throw it all now, like he can't use
his that arm at all. So I believe that during
although we didn't talk about much, when he did speaking
of that Las Vegas church, he did also speak about
some family tragedy they'd gone through recently where they thought
her wife was sick, His wife was sick, come to
find out she was actually pregnant. They didn't know they
lost the baby, and and everybody just didn't like him
and was just always talking bad about him, and you know,
and that and that that gets back to a person
as well. So I guess if we're doing the math
of how do you reach the point where you're just like,
you know, I think I just have to be done
with this. Everything just got so toxic everywhere that even
walking away from thirty million dollars, that made more sense
than stringing it along, continuing to deal with the hate,
continuing to deal with the izzy I WON'TI is like
just all of that kind of purgatory sort of situation.
He was in a lojoan about what were you would
you would you would?
Speaker 5: You think mine was a lot more superficial than y'all's.
Like I saw Taylor's text when I woke up up
and I was like, oh cool, and then that was
pretty much that was.
Speaker 2: Saying before the appropriate that's probably the appropriate reaction in.
Speaker 5: All honesty, like nice, we got some money back?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so here, okay, real quick, I'll do well,
we'll explain what it does to the cap. Then we'll
go to bring and come back and finish off this conversation.
But right now, the Saints only own ten million dollars
from the fully guaranteed roster bonus. He was supposed to
also make his thirty million dollars salary that was guaranteed
for injuries that in his forty that is off the books.
What is still on the books is fifty million dollars
of dead money. It's because his cap number was low
the first two years and you deferred that, but you
split that between two years. Now it's about twenty five
million a year in dead money, which sounds awful. It's
not as bad as it sounds, especially given the rising cap,
like the percentage, it will be less next year. But again,
the clarity, I think is the most important part. Now
you finally understand exactly where you stand financially. You got
the twenty you got the fifty million dead money over
two years, and you're paying the ten miil and you
get the thirty mili back and bam, good to go.
So and that would have been eighty million over two
years with that guaranteed salary. So really, uh again, very look,
regardless what you think about car, very team friendly thing
that he did here where he did not actually have to,
like he held the cards to try to maximize the
money if he wanted. Instead, he's given savings and clarity
of the Saints.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's something that the Saints really haven't had
in a long time. Like we talked about, like you
kind of can see what the future looks like and
it's not necessarily kicking the can down the road like
they've done for so many years.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: There's other positions and other contracts, but this, I mean,
the quarterback contract is always going to be the major one.
And to split that too, you know, twenty five to
twenty five instead of that major just fifty sitting there
dead white as an anchor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of did you a solid Yeah, you
really did all right?
Speaker 2: And Okay, so when we get back, let's trap up
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to more sports talk. What's some other stuff
mixed in off the bench with hester Antiva.
Speaker 2: What's happening y'all?
Speaker 3: Gome back.
Speaker 2: That is just a great hook.
Speaker 3: Good hook.
Speaker 2: God, that's good good hook. Uh. The final car facts guys,
and again I am do not miss stake what I'm
doing here, because I do understand that Derek Carr made
a bit of a habit of padding stats in some
interesting ways. But these numbers are still going to surprise you,
I think, and it's going to really highlight and emphasize
just how deeply sour the relationship portion of all this went,
because these are not normally the numbers of a guy
who would be as roundly disdained as Derek Carr is.
Here neorleans the final car facts. He finished fourteen and
thirteen in his twenty seven starts, as these Saints quarterback
finished nine and six over his last fifteen starts. He
had an overall passer rating of ninety eight point eight.
He threw forty touchdowns to only thirteen picks. He completed
sixty eight percent of his passes and through over six
thousand yards in those twenty seven games. So again like
winning record, damn near one hundred passer rating four to
one tonsdown to pick ratio as completed seventy percent. And
yet because how he answered questions, kind of how he
carried himself all these sorts of things, everybody is has
been yelling for him to get out of here, so
they could have zero to six Spencer Rattler under center.
Which is maybe the funniest part about this is Saints fans,
finally you got what you wanted, and here's your prize.
You open up your box and it's a quarterback competition
between Tyler Shuck and Spencer.
Speaker 3: Rattler and Jay Hayner.
Speaker 2: According to between Tyler Shuck and.
Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler, this really might be three quarterbacks will have
equal opportunity to compete for the starting position during training camp.
Speaker 2: And Spencer Ratler No, I don't. I just don't think
Jake's got it. I mean, at least last year when
they both were sucking, like you could see Rattler headed
a bit more than did Something. Did something. But yeah, guys,
hey don't forget ty shot first since quarterback drafted in
the first or second round since our seventy one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I think he's got to be the front runner. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Pective of Spencer Rattler. I like Spencer Rattler. I think
he's got a future in the NFL for a long time,
probably being a solid backup that when he comes in
it gets a little frisky.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have high, high he's gonna have low lows.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's gonna be a backup, but he's
gonna be good enough to be a solid backup, one
of the better ones in the NFL.
Speaker 3: It's a fifth round pick. Right, There's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Talent, but the totality of the game probably fifth round
pick was about right. Jake Hayn fourth round pick, great
arm hasn't shown you anything to get you excited, right,
I don't think. Yeah, I just don't know what Jake
Haner and both of them are tiny. Spencer Ratler and
j Canner and Tyler Schuck's are the complete different So look,
if you if you're going to select a quarterback with
the fortieth pick, he's going to be your guy. Yeah,
Like I would be shocked if he's not your starter.
This is no longer you know two thousand and one
where you draft a guy and they wait behind a
guy and then week six or seven they take over
and becomes their team.
Speaker 3: We don't see that anymore. We talked about it last week.
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams Day one starter, Jade Daniel's Day one starter,
Bo Nick's Day one starter, JJ McCarthy Day one starter,
Michael Pennix was the only one that wasn't and it's
because he had Kirk Cousins contract in front of him.
Now he's already the starter. Yeah, you get drafted that high.
This was basically a first round pick for the Saints.
He is going to have every opportunity. If he doesn't
win the job, that's when you should start to worry.
Uh Well, to be clear, I'm worried anyway.
Speaker 2: I'm worried no matter what this is gonna be on
coach Tief to try to try to get something out
of this. And I don't care if Shock or Thatler
wins it. But Jake's breakdown is exactly right about why
Shuck should have the inside track and probably why you
want Shuck to win it because the physical potential is higher. Taylor,
I can see you chomping at the bit here. What
are you thinking?
Speaker 6: No, just not to mention like this is the quarterback
that Kellen Moore picked. There were a lot of guys
out there. He picked him. Hayter and Ratler just happened
to be on the roster when he took the job.
Like he picked this guy, he spent a high second
round pick on him, Like this has got to be the.
Speaker 2: Guy, right. I do love that all the analysis from
rookie minnikimps like he's very tall, well, you know, and
and to be honest, you watch that quarterback group and
he probably does like kind of you know, tower over
the other two, looking like a bit of an outlier there.
So look credit to Raller and and and I hope
they compete their ass off. But yes, the the the
best case scenario is that you got a guy which
is rare in the second round. Not impossible, Hurts was
dak round two D four. Oh okay, never mind, it's
that impossible to rare this one.
Speaker 3: We did.
Speaker 4: We do that last week when we're kind of looking
at Feel Good Company quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: We tried to find who the good ones were, and
it's a it's a limited bunch, but they're good. But
I mean it's a you know, it's a it's a
smaller handful.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I'm just sitting here, yeah, I'm kind
of looking at it right now. That might be might be.
Speaker 2: So I guess the point in saying that is just
that you got to understand, like the odds are not
really on Chuck's side, to be completely honest, but.
Speaker 3: Gino Smith was another one. Oh yeah, that's true that
we said.
Speaker 2: That's true. Man, Look at the Geno Forever.
Speaker 3: Rock Party is the ultimate example.
Speaker 2: Took Geno forever to get there, took.
Speaker 4: You know, like the right opportunity and to get away
from the Jets. Yeah, just like Sam Donald's same situation.
Speaker 2: Should the Saints explore again we need to go to
break But should the Saints explore a veteran option at quarterback?
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Speaker 1: Back to sports talk, maybe off the bench.
Speaker 2: Look, Derek, you just just wasn't right. Okay, Yeah, it
was just you.
Speaker 4: Know, it wasn't necessarily you, it wasn't necessarily me.
Speaker 3: You know, just it didn't work.
Speaker 2: Just didn't work.
Speaker 3: Theirs didn't align.
Speaker 2: You know what though, because you did as such a
solid on the way out, We're all going to go
to YouTube and we're gonna hit like on the car
review video. Yes, a Landra we are doing this as
a team.
Speaker 3: We're doing this as a team.
Speaker 2: I don't want what are we going to do with
that thirty million dollars though.
Speaker 5: Because I told the same as much as I trust
like the government to spend our money, so it's.
Speaker 3: Fair and it is fair. But like.
Speaker 7: It was Derek Carr, it was not.
Speaker 5: It's no like, it wasn't you, It wasn't us, It
was Derek Carr.
Speaker 2: Can't you just show a little grace here at the end,
just just extend a little you're right, like you're right,
but lie, lie to make the situation more relations.
Speaker 5: Thing about me. I am not fake. I can't even
fake it when he's retiring.
Speaker 7: It was a rocky relationship with a smooth breakup.
Speaker 2: Leave it at that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, fair.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna be the one hundred
and eighty fifth like this.
Speaker 3: Just said that, Wait, is many views? How many views?
Is that video?
Speaker 2: Not a lot? Even? Eight?
Speaker 5: Eight still thousand, I tell you those mill I was like,
there's no way eight thousand.
Speaker 4: Maybe I just we live in our Saints bubble here,
and I thought everybody had seen it, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, it never it never
became like a true internet meme. It was just a
just local, just a local meme. But I'm the one
hundred and eighty fifth.
Speaker 3: Like Mario, So virginity video has way more views than that.
Speaker 7: It's true.
Speaker 2: I feel bad too. I got I got a text mark.
Speaker 3: I think's up to one point six million.
Speaker 2: He was sitting there like defeating himself in the common like, bro, no, no.
Speaker 3: I reached out to my guys.
Speaker 2: What it happens is to let these guys go. People
are dumb, dude, it's just the end, Like.
Speaker 3: You literally know two languages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, That's that's what I keep saying too, Like
the guy knows two legs.
Speaker 3: He left that the show early that day. He was
hoodie mellow to start the show because he just felt
so bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does not matter, m yeah, I do need
nothing to chill out on my mention. So oh hey, okay,
one minute left? Should the Saints. Do you think Aaron
Rodgers would come here?
Speaker 4: No, we talked about it during a break though. There's
better weapons in New Orleans than in Pittsburgh currently.
Speaker 3: Actually, I really don't even think it's close. Your division
have DK that's it.
Speaker 2: Way easier division. Like you point out, there's no quarterbacks left?
Speaker 6: Now, what was it one hundred and I think one
hundred and forty one starts between the other three teams,
but Baker has one hundred and three of them.
Speaker 3: You play nine or ten games in a dome, depending
on if you get the extra game at home. True,
because of the Falcons being a dome, you're having a superdome.
It's intriguing to it old man.
Speaker 2: And plus like you know, Aaron's going through his like
culture phase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, bro, living the thick of it.
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