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So very intrigued by what Kelly Pepinkann accomplishes the defense

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coordinator real quick though, just to kind of recap Kelly's

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trajectory as a coach there at BYU, he was a

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fantastic football player, team captain, led the team in tackles

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in two thousand and seven, and I believe that single

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season productivity put him placed him thirty ninth overall and

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total tackles in a single season. I mean, there were

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some remarkable seasons from some of these these linebackers back

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Speaker 1: I believe Schad Hansen, I.

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Speaker 3: Guess had one hundred and ninety three tackles one season

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Speaker 1: That's an insane number. Anyway.

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Speaker 3: K Pop comes in at number thirty nine, one of

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the best Mike linebackers in the modern era for BYU

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in a legacy name that you guys all know on

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Love in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: After his NFL career, After he played for a.

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Speaker 3: Multitude of teams in the NFL, he became a defensive

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intern got into coaching, and then became a defensive graduate

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assistant and interim outside linebackers coach in twenty ten. From

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two thousand eleven twenty twelve, he was at BYU's outside.

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Speaker 1: Linebackers coach full time.

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Speaker 3: From twenty thirteen to twenty fifteen BYU Special Teams Coordinator

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and outside linebackers coach. Then took his talents to Virginia

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with coach men in all two thousand sixteen to twenty

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twenty Virginia outside linebackers coach, and also in twenty twenty

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one was the just the linebackers coach so the entire

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unit and by the way, in twenty sixteen, two thousy

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twenty one Virginia coach, defensive coordinator and edge position coach.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, took.

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Speaker 3: His towns to Boise State, was coach special teams coordinator

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and edge position coach, and then came back home twenty

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twenty two to twenty twenty five Bill your special teams

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coordinator and defensive ends coach and now twenty twenty six

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to present BYU Defensive coordinator so a couple other coaching notes.

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the co special teams coordinator and exposition coach at Boys

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to State for the twenty twenty two seasons. Since taking

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over that group, the special teams unit has been the

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best unit in my opinion for ESPN ESPN sp plus metric,

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They've been the most effective and efficient group comparative.

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been fantastic over this three year period or so. But man,

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I've been impressed with a special teams unit. I can't

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wait to see what k Pop can do with this defense.

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and welcome in. You know he's gonna love This stat

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ranked thirty ninth all time in BYU football history in

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season a single season total tackles. Uh, just just behind

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let's see here, You're just behind Aaron Francisco, who was

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a tremendous linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that one.

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Speaker 3: I'll you know what I mean, You're right there next

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to Aaron Francis, which was pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'll let Aaron have that one. That's okay.

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He's a great player. If you're gonna tell me somebody

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like Brian Kiel or something like that, I would have

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Speaker 3: No, man, you you had one hundred and thirteen tackles

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that season in two thousand and seven, leading our defense.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, it was a great defense.

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Speaker 3: Everyone thinks that that seventeen was all offense. It's a

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bunch of malarkey. That defense was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: K Popper.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we had some really good players, man, and

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we learned from a really good defense from the year

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before and built off of those guys. And yeah, that's

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we had. We had great players from you know yourself

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and kill and Nixon and Markel Staffieri. You had a

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good noseguard line Ethan Molly Butler, Luna was a freshman

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that came in and played. I mean that was Yeah,

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there's a lot of really good players on that team

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that ended up becoming even better players as the years

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Speaker 3: When you think of like the great defenses that you

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were a part of, the great defenses that you've been

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able to coach, uh, the great defenses that you've been

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able to oversee in your your career, What are some

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of the qualities of a great defense?

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Speaker 2: Would you say, you know, we just hit this, we

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just hit this yesterday. As the defense, and I believe

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it all starts with an edge. Man, Great defenses play

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with an edge like they play with this this confidence

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and this swagger that everybody can feel. And I think

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we've seen that the last couple of years. That edge

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comes with you know, relentless pursuit and effort. You know,

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there's physicality and violence that's played with it. There's this

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you know, swagger. I don't want to say cockyness. It's

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like right on the edge of being cocky, like everybody

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knows they're good, but they you know, it's right to

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the point where we're not going to go around. I'm

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telling everybody that we're good. But I just I've felt

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that here the last couple of years. For sure. It's

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something that that twenty twelve team had. I think those

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defenses was Danny, Danny Sorenson and you know, Kyle van

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Oi and Ziggy and those guys. I felt that in

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seven when I was here. There's a year at Virginia

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we were really really good and felt the same way.

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there's the swagger of this edge that that you play

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with that comes from confidence of you you knowing what

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to do and doing it at a high level.

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Speaker 1: Is it dud?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I think you got Yeah, I think you got to

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earn it. I think you got to show it. You

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got to earn it. And yeah, there was there's an

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example I showed yesterday of Glasger of him playing with

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this edge, and uh, and I told everybody it just

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didn't happen overnight, Like Glasger just didn't show up and

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all of a sudden that he had to He had

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to go through it his first year in twenty twenty three, right,

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he had to go through being a backup and you know,

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going and making mistakes and learning the hard way a

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couple of times. And then he gained more of that

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as he played more in twenty four and then you

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know last year in twenty five. But it just yeah,

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it's turned over time. Man. It doesn't just happen. You've

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got to earn that through not just hard work in

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the weight room and on the field, but also just

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knowing what to do and you got to make plays.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Humans are creatures of habit, right, No one likes change

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in the human, you know, amongst Homo sapiens, and so

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there were some changes, right. You get an opportunity to

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be DC and we've brought in some new coaches. Tell

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us about some of the coaches that are coming in

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and why they were the right fit for you and

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your defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll start with Chad Kaha. Like Chad's been with us,

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Chad is a season season that when it comes to

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coaching defensive ends and outside backers, and he's coaching big

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time guys from his time at Utah Wisconsin to when

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he went to USC and UCLA. And so he's been

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with us the last three years and he's his role

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what increased each each year. Last year he's kind of

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like our past rush specialist and really you know, helped

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kind of our our whole entire defense go to the

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next level and get I think we got over thirty

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sacks a year ago. And you know it was a

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lot with just the work that he put in with

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those guys. And so now he's he's going to be

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over those outside backers and edge guys that I had

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over the last couple of years, and and I think

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he's I think he's exceptional with that. And so I

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really like just his experience and just his attention to

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detail in the way that he does things with those guys.

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extremely excited about, being very impressed. We've all been together

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as a staff now for two weeks and uh and

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really three weeks. I would say we've been together for

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three weeks. And and Louis Walker coming from North Dakota

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State that was at Mamath, that has some Utah tiys.

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He has great energy, great detailed, very smart. He's a

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guy that was that's been a coordinator before, right, so

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he he knows defensive football. And he's not not just

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the back end, he knows front play. And and then

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the Mario Warren that's, you know, the guy that I

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very first hired, that I told myself a long time

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ago if I could ever hire anybody as a coordinator,

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he probably my first started just how how impressed I

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was with him when I was at Boise State. And

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a guy that has head coaching experience, he's also called

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defenses before, and he'll he'll be heavily, heavily involved in

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our past game and uh calling the shots of how

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things are going to be done on the back end,

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and uh, you know this has been new for him.

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high cover two, cover four type of guy and playing

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more one high, you know, man free cover three and

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some of this one high stuff that we do here.

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and he's been uncomfortable. So uh, it's it's been There's

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been a change for a lot of us. But I

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think that's where growth happens. Growth happens when you have

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to go through that change. And so yeah, it's exciting.

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I'm excited about the staff that we have, and I

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think we've messed really well together over the last couple

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of weeks that we've been together. And yeah, we started

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spring ball here in a couple of days and we're

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ready to rock and roll and get this thing going.

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Speaker 3: Love that breakdown, Kelly pinga defensive coordinator here on your

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to ask you. You broke down the coaching staff and

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maybe the skill sets that they provide to the team,

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the roster, and uh one of the things I thought

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was interesting. So initially to Mario Warren was maybe hired

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to be the cornerbacks coach. But then you know, something changed, right,

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like to figure out skill sets and best best personnel

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to oversee your defense from a position group standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know when I when I try to

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think of the best way it is when Gennaro decided

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to leave and go to Michigan, I thought for sure

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to Mario was going to be going to be our

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corners coach. And then the more I was around him

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and then just seeing his understanding of the back end

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as we were talking through our defense. So there was

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about a week or two there where we were just

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all alone. We didn't have anybody else hired. Soon I

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was here still, but we were talking more coverage stuff

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and we were as we were going through that and

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I was teaching them the defense, I just thought, man,

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it would be it would be great if we could

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find a great corners coach and to make this guy

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a safeties coach, because I think you can coordinate the

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back end in the pass game a lot better from

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a safety position coach rather than a corners position coach.

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I just think they they the safeties a lot of

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times in the back end, they're making the calls and

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telling the corners what to do, right, So I found

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it would be a lot better if that was coming

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from the safeties coach rather than him, you know, being

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the corners coach. And so as I went through the

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interview process and started interviewing all these different guys, that's

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when I found Lewis and I was like, holy cow,

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we can get this guy to coach our corners and

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at the Mario coach the safeties. That's that's the combination

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that we had. And we had a lot of really

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good candidates. There was a lot of really good guys,

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guys that I'd worked with before and guys that I

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coached with before that are all really good coaches. And

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I had never coached with Lewis, and so it was hard.

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for me to make because I had some really good

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friends and guys that had worked with before that were

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very good, and really the hire a guy that I'd

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never worked with before and really didn't know that was

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that came highly recommended, and as we went through the

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interview processes and we talked, I thought Lewis would be

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he'd be an exceptional fit here. I thought he'd fit

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really well with de Mario. And I knew that he

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was also going to be loyal to Kilwey and to

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a Rod and to the staff because he's been with

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those guys from day one when he was a player

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at the University of Utah. So I just felt like

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there was a lot of positives. And then just with

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his Utah ties, I just thought there was a lot

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of things that he brought to the table. East Coast

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recruiting he's got. I mean, we're already recruiting guys from

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the East Coast now just because of his ties that

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he had when he was at Mama Thing, when he

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was at North Dakota State recruiting out there. So there

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was just a ton of positives that came from hiring him.

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And at the end of the day, you know, me

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and Clonie talking it through, I just thought it was

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a no brainer. I thought he, for sure, far and

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away was the best candidate for us in this moment,

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right and nothing against any of those other coaches. I

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think those other coaches that interview were great and are

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gonna be very successful whatever they do. But at this moment,

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in this time of where our program was and what

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our staff needed, I thought Louis was the best best

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fit with tomorrow and you know the rest of our staff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for cornerbacks, you know, it seems like they're always

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looking for like a technician to give me all the techniques,

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give me all the footwork, what expound maybe on what

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maybe Lewis can provide there, because Gennaro was always uh

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labeled as that technician and developer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Lewis there's you know you and

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Lewis's he's pretty young dude man, and he's I think

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he can mesh really well with our players. I think

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he relates to him really well. And I think, you know,

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immediately he's gained their respect as he's come in, and

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I think, you know, I think as soon as a coach.

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So players players are funny now, they know they know

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immediately if you can coach or not. You sit in

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one meeting for five minutes and you're like, oh, yeah,

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this guy can coach or he can't coach, right, And

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so day one he came out of their first meeting

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and first walked through, and and you know, the DVS

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were like, oh, yeah, goes, this is this is the

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guy right here. This is who we needed, This is

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who we wanted. And I think, you know, nothing against General.

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General was a great coach and they did a great

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job with those guys. But this is you know, like

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you said, sometimes a new voice brings new ideas and

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challenges guys in different ways. And you know, he just

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coaches guys different Everybody coaches in different ways and has

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different styles, and so this style of coaching and the

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way that Lewis is going to do it, I think

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is gonna sit really with our players. And at least

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the feedback from the a couple of weeks that he's

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been here has been really good for the players. And

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so we'll see how it goes. Man, everybody's kind of

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in the honeymoon phase right now. You know, when we

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get on the field, when we get on the field

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on Friday, and then we'll see when the bullets start

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being a little live out there and actually, you know,

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play football, we'll see how it goes. But as far

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as walkthroughs and meetings and those things have gone, I

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think we're right where we want to be at this point.

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Speaker 3: A couple other things as it relates to the coaching

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staff that I find intriguing everyone. All the Boa fans,

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they love pressure, You love pressure being a linebacker, and

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and uh, you know, just getting after quarterbacks, et cetera.

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Chad K he's been there, he's been a part of

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the squad. But what does he bring maybe to the

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outside edge guys and the techniques that he employs and

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the coaching at the form of fashion which he coaches.

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Speaker 1: Uh, and and what type of impact do you think

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coach Chad k can make?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's between the outside backers and the

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inside backers that we have. I think we've I think

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we've done a really good job as the staff recruiting

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and so I think there's really good talent at both

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of those positions. And I think Chad is going to

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bring an opportunity to be able to We're gonna be

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more versatile, I think than we've been, meaning in that way,

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I think there's gonna be times kind of like how

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we use glass at times where there's times where it

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looks like he's outside backer at times where he's inside backer.

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But now we're gonna be able to do that with

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multiple guys, and I think that's gonna be uh you know,

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that's a big part of why I moved the inside

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backers because of my experience with outside backer and the

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inside backers being able to do that too as well,

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being able to go back and forth. And that's when

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it gets hard for offenses when they can't identify whosho,

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who's the inside backers the outside backer. And if you

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watch the NFL and and if you looked and saw

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what kind of the Patriots do with Kyle Banoay, it's

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kind of a similar similar concept, right where what is

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Kyle is then outside backer, he's an inside backers kind

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of like what we did to Kyle with Kyle back

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in the day. And we were doing that with Glassger

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last year and Nucie at the end of the year.

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So it's nothing new, but I think we're now going

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to be able to do that with more guys and

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be able to hide guys in positions that typically you know,

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offensives might think they're, you know, an inside backer, but

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they're an outside backer. Hey, this guy was an outside

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backer's played four now he's an inside backer. So being

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able to have that versatility. I think Chad brings that,

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but I mean his specialties as rush and h I

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think those guys are you know, from Hunter Klegg to

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the new seed, the tall Seely. I think those guys

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that played force last year, I think are going to

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have just a new way to hear. I mean, you know, obviously,

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you know, you know I'm leaving that room, but I

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think a new voice going in there for those guys

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is going to be doing It's going to help those guys,

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you know, hopefully take the next step to be great

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football players.

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Speaker 3: Justin Ena taking over a special teams coordinator, and I

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mean up to this point, I haven't seen anything official,

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but he's not He's just coaching special teams. He's not

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taking a position, correct, Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 1: So co why.

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Speaker 2: Coach Enna's playing are doing special teams because I think

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we wanted to just get to a guy that just

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coached special teams. So I think that probably was gonna

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end up being my role. If every everything ended up

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staying the same as my guests to where and you

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could hire another assistant coach, right, So instead of having

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ten full time assistant coaches, now we have eleven plus

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the head coach, which makes you know, twelve full time

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guys and and really, you know more with the unlimited

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amount of coaching positions that the NCA has given us. Now,

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I think that's going to even get bigger. I think

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there's going to be other roles that are going to

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continue to increase, increase your on my, on my, our staff,

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and so we'll see, Yeah we're goes. But yeah, Justin's

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a great coach. He's done a great job. But I

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think he's kind of the same deal. I think he's

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excited for you know, I don't want to speak for him,

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but kind of the same deal, excited for kind of

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a new adventure and a new way to learn and

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grow as a coach.

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Speaker 3: From a schematic standpoint, defensively, over the last few years,

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how would you describe the defense?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Is it a three four? Is it a four to three?

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Is it a three three five? Is it multiple?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: How is it? By forget a BUYU?

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Speaker 3: Fans are always asking me these questions, and I'm like, Hey,

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this is what it looks like to me, and what

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will it be?

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Speaker 1: What will it look like going forward?

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Speaker 2: Do you think the best way that I can describe

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it is klan all right.

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Speaker 1: I just know that, all right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how other way to say it. But

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something in that, something in the middle of that, something

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right in the middle of that is what it'll be,

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something like that. So it'll be it'll be a mixture

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of a bunch of stuff I've I've learned over the years.

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But we're not going to depart, you know, too far

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from our base of what we've done here the last

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couple of years. And that's just that's just who Klanie is.

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And you know, Coach as with us, and that's who

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he is. And and they've taught me a ton over

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the last couple of years. And Coach Hill I got it.

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I mean I get a good that guy credit. He's

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taught me a ton and just the scheme of things

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and and and you know, just to I think everybody

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just needs to understand, like at the end of the day,

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you know, Coach Will leaves and he left this place

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in a great spot. But Coach Will learned this defense

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from Coach Anderson, he learned it from Kilanie. They all

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learned it from Kyle Whittingham, right, So it's it's that

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whole tree, right, So It's not like because Coach Hill

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left and all of a sudden, this this whole defense

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is gone. Like two of the main creators of this

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defense are still in this building, right, and so getting

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feedback from those guys every single day. Coach Anderson's in

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our staff meetings every single day. Kilanie is in meetings

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when he can when he's not doing head coach stuff.

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I mean, he was in my position meeting all day

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to day with the linebackers, right, So he's super passionate

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about that. So having him that voice in there with

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me is awesome and we see things very very similar,

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which is good. And so just that involvement and they're

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voices and their experiences that they have in this defense,

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I think just gives gives myself as a new decordinator

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of an advantage from two guys that have done the

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scheme in the system for a very long time.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to kind of an overarching kind of

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going into the off season training, uh, you know, springball conversation.

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Who stood out to you in the off season? I

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know that hey, champions can be made in the weight

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room and in the strength and conditioning room. Who's stood

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out to you on the human performance side of things.

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After all, you were going to be a human performance

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coach before you got roped into this college football coaching game.

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Speaker 2: I know, yeah so, And I think As has been

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great man. He's strong, super strong kid, great leader. He

478
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stood out to me probably more than anybody. But I

479
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think even even our other leaders like our corners positions.

480
00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:55,640
I've been really impressed with Evan. Evan Johnson's put on

481
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some weight and some strength and some speed. He's looked

482
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really good, and leadership qualities have been awesome. Raider to

483
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,839
Mooney on follat Ou saying, like the guys that you

484
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,440
thought were going to be that are great per ut

485
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,440
players for so those guys, those guys have had great

486
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,640
off seasons. And so I would say if I were

487
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to pick one guy that's come out of nowhere and

488
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,799
as surprised the heck out of us as far as

489
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just being ready to play in good shape, is uh.

490
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Jake Clifton are the transfer from Kansas State, just came

491
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home off a mission, got home in December, was here

492
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,519
eager to go in January. And he is He is

493
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impressive man, and he moves well. He's big, he's strong,

494
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he's fast. He just power clean. He just I mean,

495
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he's been home a mission from a mission three months

496
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and he's just power cleean the other day three thirty five,

497
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which is really really hard to do for anybody, but

498
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especially the guys that's just been home off a mission

499
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for two months, three months. So I'm excited to see

500
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him continue to progress and just the few things that

501
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we've been able to do with them so far. I'm

502
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,799
excited about his movements and his leadership and his personality,

503
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like he fits in really really well with what we

504
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do here. And yeah, just you know, one of those

505
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,400
one of the surprises. Man, you usually think a missionary

506
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,960
is going to take about a year or so to

507
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be able to clean you know what. He cleaned the

508
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:07,960
other dat power clean that. And he made it look

509
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,039
easy too as well. So I'm excited about that new guy.

510
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Speaker 3: Overarching questions, this is a team question that I think

511
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you guys.

512
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Speaker 1: Talk about a lot. Continual consistent success.

513
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Speaker 3: How do you balance the success eleven to two, twelve

514
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and two back to back seasons. You try to leverage

515
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that positive positively recruiting public relations, getting fans and donors engaged,

516
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et cetera.

517
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,599
Speaker 1: But from a.

518
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Speaker 3: Team standpoint, you know, still instilling like this, humble, hungry,

519
00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:39,279
you know, compartmentalizing that these seasons are siloed in, they

520
00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:42,279
are individual. You have to create the championship season in

521
00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:44,000
the success right now.

522
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you said it already, man, Look at that's

523
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,400
Kalanie's message, that's one of our core guys in Principal's years.

524
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,119
To stay humble and stay hungry. And honestly, it doesn't

525
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,319
matter what we've done in the past, nothing, none of

526
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that matters. Nobody cares, I promise you right now, nobody

527
00:23:57,519 --> 00:23:59,640
in the big twelve pairs how good we were the

528
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,799
last years. What matters is the work that we put

529
00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:05,759
in right now, the belief and confidence we build with

530
00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:08,119
each other over the next couple of months as we

531
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,799
get ready for the season, and we got to prepare

532
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,319
and we got to go earn it, and it's not

533
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,160
going to be given to us. And so I think

534
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,960
our guys are hungry, and I think they're anxious. I

535
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,440
think they're anxious to prove that we're better than what

536
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,480
we showed, you know, especially in those two games against

537
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,279
Texas Tech. But those games I think we were necessary.

538
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:25,640
They were necessary. We had to go through that to

539
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,039
be able to learn and grow to get to where

540
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,279
we want to now. And so if we handle it

541
00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:31,359
the right way, then I believe it's going to help

542
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,359
us take us to the next level. And so I

543
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,960
tell our guys all the time, Man, we don't we

544
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,000
don't need to go around and tell everybody how good

545
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:40,039
we think we're going to be. All we need to

546
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,160
do is go talk or go do the work and

547
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,440
not do any talking. There's no talking necessary. And that's

548
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,559
that's one thing that I think in the past here,

549
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,240
not just any team, but I just think people get

550
00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:53,000
so overhyped about the offseason and just all this guy's

551
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,920
coming back and this guy's coming back. It doesn't matter

552
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,880
who's coming back. At the end of the day, everybody

553
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,200
still has to put in the work and go through

554
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,400
the process to be great. There's been there's been great

555
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,400
teams here in the past that have had great depth

556
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,680
that went eating five or went you know whatever, nine

557
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,720
to four or whatever. So we want to take this

558
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,920
this depth that we have, in this experience that we

559
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,839
have and take it to a whole other level. And

560
00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:16,960
we got to go earn it every single day, right,

561
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000
And so Friday is kind of that first step and

562
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,279
really in the next phase, right, We're moving from the

563
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:25,079
off season winter phase conditioning into now springball. That's the

564
00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:27,079
next phase. And we gotta we gotta win, win the

565
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,200
day every single day.

566
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Speaker 3: And uh, and they're putting in the work just so

567
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:35,799
everybody knows, uh full transparency. The band of brothers tried

568
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,400
to get together and like do a little lunch with

569
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:41,319
K Pop and he's like, guys, I have to cancel.

570
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: I'm way too busy.

571
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,559
Speaker 3: I'm like, the only way we're gonna be able to

572
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:46,440
get together and celebrate a K Pop becoming the defense

573
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:49,240
coring is if we meet at the y Mountain at

574
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,559
four thirty am for a quick run up the hill

575
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like old.

576
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: Times, only only if Bronco Menenham meets us there and

577
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,640
meets That's the only way. That's the only way we're

578
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,720
doing it. So we got to get we gotta get

579
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,519
an invite from Bronco. You gotta try to beat us,

580
00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:04,960
because I guarantee you all of us are gonna be

581
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,839
able to beat them to the top.

582
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,839
Speaker 1: Yes we will be, Yes we will be the only time.

583
00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: This might be the only time in our lives that

584
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,839
we can see that Yep, amen to that cape appreciate

585
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:16,160
you hopping on. Congratulations on becoming the defensive coordinat Excited

586
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,480
to look at the defense at springball.

587
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: Thank you all right, guys, appreciate you.

588
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: There you go.

589
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Speaker 3: That's Kelly Pavina, defensive coordinator BYU Cougar Football. Let's call

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