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to the show, Cheryl Murphy.

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Speaker 2: Hey doing, Cheryl, I'm doing terrific. Thank you for having

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me so much.

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Speaker 1: Child. Oh, thank you so much for being here. I

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appreciate you taking the check out here to Next Level

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Soul Studios and feeling the energy in the room.

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Speaker 2: You know, the energy as soon as I walked in,

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it's still like sacred. I have to say, it's holy.

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It's like I feel blessed. That's how it feels.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that. I take no credit for that.

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I give the credit to all of the masters that

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have walked in this room and are in this room

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all the time. You could tell me better than other

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other's a if theory standing around me.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps, but I will I will. Well, there's no coincidences.

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I'll tell you that. The reason why you're attracted to

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certain people, just like Yoga Nanda, you know, there is

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a connection, a sole connection. They're a true soul connection

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with you and him.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he's literally behind me constantly in

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every frame everywhere. He's always around me. And Yoda is too,

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So apparently I have a spiritual connection to Yoda.

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Speaker 2: He's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a good he's a very good guy. So, so

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you're a psychic medium. I am your psychic medium. How

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did you first discover this ability?

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Speaker 2: You know it runs in my family, you know, if

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we can share that because the women in my family,

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my grandmother, my great great grandmother, who is Cherokee Indian. Yeah,

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they all gathered around when every time we have a

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family meeting like a holiday for example Christmas and what

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have you, the women would gather and have a seance

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or they'd have these spiritual conversations. I was very young.

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I really wasn't included at that time, but I would

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hear I saw. I would hear them, and afterwards they'd

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come out and sit and you could really feel a

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shift happening. You could hear them talking, and you could

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hear a lot of nonverbal communication too. So I mean

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I felt lighter and freer, and I felt more intuitive

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just being around them. I learned later on in my

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adult life that my great aunt was hired by the

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Air Force by the government to find a missing pilot

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and plane that they were not able to find. And

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you don't hear about those stories, right, So I didn't

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hear about it till my adult life. I asked my

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great aunt, and you know, she told them she'll be

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happy to find them, but they they would not mention

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her name and any findings or how they found the

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pilot or plane. But things like that, stories like that,

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I grew up with.

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Speaker 1: Whow So at what point did you realize you had

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to get because it does skip generation sometimes.

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Speaker 2: It does, and sometimes maybe more female or male. Even so,

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growing up, I first started seeing spirit at the age

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of three years old, right around that time.

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Speaker 1: So you're literally seeing dead people walking around.

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Speaker 2: I saw them as light, or I saw them as

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a ball of light, and I felt this ball of

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light represented a family, So it was like a sole

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family coming to see me. So I'm very young. It's

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in the evening and this beautiful light comes in the

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room and it's like they're checking on me, making sure

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that I'm okay, excited for me to have this life here,

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and they're literally moving things around in my room right

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they'd move a toy around or a calendar around. I scared,

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you know what, everything was joyful, Everything was joyful. And

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this happened several times growing up. And you know, when

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you're very young to tell anyone, they just think, right,

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you know, you're just a kid, it's your imagination.

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Speaker 1: But your family knew about this stuff though, But.

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Speaker 2: It was okay though. I mean for them, it wasn't

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any big deal. It was you know, it was part

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of the household. Right in our family, we were used

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to psychic events happening. My mom, for example, would walk

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in the kitchen and silverware would bend, or knives would bend,

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and so it is a little out there, but you know,

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it was something to be aware of that when I

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stepped out of the house to go to school, for example.

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so it didn't feel like it was interesting to anyone,

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so I didn't mention it. But growing up, getting into

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my teenage years, more kids were interested and I was

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happy to share my ideas, my thoughts, go into meditation

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with them, you know, maybe going to a little bit

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of a seance with them. My brother and I, who

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are very close in age. He's really into this too,

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so I knew growing up I had a support system.

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So it's it's wonderful. My brother and I really grew

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up believing about once again the afterlife. We read books

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on it. This was a conversation we loved having. My

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mom had all those Edgar Casey books growing.

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Speaker 1: Up, a bunch of them in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Edgar Casey, and there wasn't too much material out there,

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you know, to learn about Sam Roberts.

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Speaker 1: There's just a few, there's.

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Speaker 2: A handful, just a few. But growing up with Edgar

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Casey and understanding about how we're also healers, right, so

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not only is our intuition about connecting with the afterlife,

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but also like healing ourselves, healing our own aches and

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pains or our own troubles, even manifesting, which was really important.

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So yeah, it's pretty interesting growing up with my brothers

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and sisters because to this day, my other brother and sister,

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they won't acknowledge that they're psychic or they're intuitive, but

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they are. I know they are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fear. There's a lot of fear involved

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with this, especially in the world we live, and it

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takes a brave soul to kind of come out and say, hey,

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I'm gonna wave my freak flag.

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Speaker 2: As well, and the feeling that you've had past lives

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where you've either been ridiculed or once again you know,

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there we are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah of course, oh yeah, hung drowned, all that kind

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of great lovely stuff of yesteryear.

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Speaker 2: We've kind of been hidden in the past. So it

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is a big deal, and that.

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Speaker 1: Could be a reason why people sometimes ignore or just

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suppress this stuff because on a soul level, they're like, well,

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the last time I spoke up, I got, I got hung,

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I got burned, I got drowned, I got It's.

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Speaker 2: True, and that's why it's so important to be a

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support nowadays. It's so important to help people understand their intuition.

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I think people kind of buried it, you know, they

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don't want to know because it's fear based in some way.

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But it's like, no, your intuition is very powerful and

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also being empathic, it's very powerful. A lot of people

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would would shy away from that growing up. So one

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of my goals is a medium, a psychic and intuitive,

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is to help people understand their and really help them

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kind of feel it within themselves, not just always hear

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me helping them, but help let me teach them. Also

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how powerful they are.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned seance a couple of times. I've never spoken

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about seances on this show. Yeah, I'm fascinated. I mean,

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we've all seen the Hollywood version. Yeah, you know, the

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tables starts shaking and we're all like, you know, the

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power of Christ compels you kind of stuff. But from

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a practical standpoint, what is the difference between us? Is

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a seance just a bunch of mediums getting together to

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pull in a spirit or is it just a wider

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door to let more in? Or is it direct communication?

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Like I need Robin Williams the spirit to come in

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the room, and couldn't you do that by yourself? Or

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do you what's the power of the seance? Can you

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explain it to me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the power of the seance is really

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to help the spirit world, not that they need our help,

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but perhaps they could feel, you know, they could feel

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the energy in a home. So let me share a

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story with you. I walked into a bed and breakfast,

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me and several other mediums. We were asked to help

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clear a house, for example, because the owner which this

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building now was a bed and breakfast, had been in

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the past many other things. You know, buildings were multifunctional

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back then, right, it was a hospital, it was a

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horse stable. At one time it was a doctor's office,

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so it held a lot of energy. And her having

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this bed and breakfast, she wasn't able to either keep

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clients coming in or they didn't want to stay in

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one of the rooms, right, because it was haunted, so

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to speak.

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Speaker 1: Where was this? This is in the south, in the South,

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and so more likely I'm going to go on on

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limb here. If it's in the South, it was either

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silver war hospital of some sort that a lot of

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death happened. I've heard this story before, and it was

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what I was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of coal miners we were attracting specifically

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also and because it was a doctor's office who had

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you know, done abortions, we were attracting a lot of

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that type of energy in this multifunctional.

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Speaker 1: Build What years was I know this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was barbarier.

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Speaker 1: So when there was.

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Speaker 2: Even crime committed in this house is what we picked

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up on someone his life had been murdered, for example.

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in this place. So the seance getting to the seance

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was a group of myself and other mediums as you mentioned,

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to help clear this building, not that the souls are

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being stuck, but to clear and lift the light of

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the energy. So as a seance, what we do is

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we definitely sit in meditation, prayer, lift our own vibration,

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always asking for the highest light to come, always asking

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for healing to happen. And not only do we attract

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people who had resided in that building, but even that

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property area, the land, the hundreds of miles away, we

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were once again attracting exactly it was like a lighthouse. Yeah,

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we found out the portal was an addict and addict

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latch and for example, this is where the light, it's

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where the light they went into the light. So we

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what we do is we ask them if they would

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like help, if they would like healing, how can we

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clear this house to help the current owner, because that

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is the goal, is to help bring that home peace,

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bring a blessing to that home and that property. Uh So,

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once again we find it an outlet which was in

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the addict It was a latch happening. As soon as

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we said that, the latch dropped to the floor. It

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was like a dead boat lock. It dropped to the floor,

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and then we felt this rush of energy going from

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the ground up. It's fascinating and I have to tell

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this owner afterwards several weeks, no problems and meaning that

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the house is clean or it's blessed. It feels calm,

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it's not there's not energy moving around. That's not welcome,

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is it?

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Speaker 1: From what I understand, when energy, this is my understanding

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of it. Please tell me what you think. And from

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your point of view, is when energy when something happens

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that's traumatic in a space, So a murder, you know,

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a death of some sort, but specific murder is traumatic,

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right right, that energy kind of gets caught in the space.

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medium the other day. They said that they walked into

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one of these houses in the South and they're like, girl,

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at one o'clock, stuff's going to happen, and he's like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever,

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And she was like walking around in a one o'clock

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It turned into a silver war triosh. There was blood everywhere.

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There's nurses walking around all this stuff, and they were

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just doing their thing. It was kind of like they

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were stuck in a loop.

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Speaker 2: That's what happens is we're like on different planes of vibration, right,

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and it's just stuck there. It's so true. And you

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can even you know, other places I've worked in, you

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can even hear them talking and these other planes. You

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can hear instruments being moved around or as you mentioned,

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the guns or the battle going on. So it's really

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excellent that it's it's very multi dimensional, right, and it's

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not a grounded energy, so it does become uncomfortable or

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to be around. It can be uncomfortable or that's.

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Speaker 1: What people that's what humans feel.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and if they're very sensitive, it can you know,

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it can really interrupt, interrupt your flow. It can be

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something that you need help clearing. It needs and so.

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Speaker 1: When you say clearing, what is that? So you're basically

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just taking a broom and yeah, you got a clear

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What does that mean exactly? It's like lifting the light up, or.

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Speaker 2: It's lifting the light up, but it is kind of

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a blessing that's happening. It's really a miracle in some

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way that we invite the spirit into the room, and

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we invite them into the room to ask them how

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we can help them. It's not like we're telling them

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what to do or commanding them in any way. We're

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inviting them. We're inviting them to maybe gather their own

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energy and clear into the light. And when we invite

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them into the presence, we try to ask them, how

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can we help you? What more can we do for you?

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And therefore, as you mentioned, it's like a lighthouse, and

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more and more spirits come in and you start feeling

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they were looking for that sense of belonging, of connection.

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like a sweeping happening, but it's more of a blessing.

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just gathering into the light.

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Speaker 1: So then do you like when like let's say that

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example I gave you of you know, nurse is in

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civil war guys. Uh, People always ask me like is

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that their soul? Like stuck there and and my understanding

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is it's echoes of this incarnation, meaning there's there the

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over soul is in a thousand other lifetimes right now

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enjoying their thing. This is an echo. I use the

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word echo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you use the word echo. I'll just use an aspect. Okay,

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we could say a part of the soul, but an

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aspect or the echo. But yes, they're full their soul

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as you mentioned that overlay. Their soul is complete. They

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have crossed over. This is a I also call it

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a residual, you know, it's it's a part of what's

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left of this synergy that remains.

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Speaker 1: And that's what a quote unquote haunting is.

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Speaker 2: You know, it can be, you know, hauntings. A lot

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of times are you know exactly spirits asking for help

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or once again that aspect of them wanting help or

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wanting us to I don't want to say deliver a message,

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but it has been that I have worked with spirits

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who have asked me to deliver messages and then it

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was their time and then they went to the light.

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So I have met people in my world where I

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have done readings for people and I have felt the

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energy of the home they used to live in and

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deliver a message to them from the home. Yes, and

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then once that happens, then the home somehow just feels

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more whole or feels more I don't want to say clean,

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but it does feel like there's more light and a

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softness to it.

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Speaker 1: You said portal, What do you mean by portal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a portal isn't opening to those higher dimensions, those

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higher planes.

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Speaker 1: And you said the latch was this is it just

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happened to be.

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Speaker 2: It was a latches where and it catches you off guard, right,

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you don't know where this energy is. It's almost like

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an outlet. You don't know where it's in. But when

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you're in this energy of the seance, it comes to you.

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It comes to you that the spirits here are what's remaining,

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are asking for help. They're asking for a clearing, and

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you know that you can open up some portal and

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opening to a higher dimension. And it was a physical door. Yeah,

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it was a physical attic door. Yeah, to actually go

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to the Yeah, it was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Higher level when you're doing the seance, I mean, as

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a medium, you're able to do everything by yourself arguably, Right,

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what's the power behind having two or three or even more.

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And is it all have to be mediums or it

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could just be other souls, you know, like in the movies,

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you have the one medium and there's the families all

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there trying to bring Uncle Bob in, Like where's the

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insurance policy? We can't find it kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: That's a very good question. Well, in this seance, for example,

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we had the owner of the bed and breakfast with us,

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So it was nice to have someone representing that property

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with us, you know, because that's why we're doing that's

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the whole purpose of it. But having other mediums, it

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just happened that we were all mediums in this one group.

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But it is nice to have a group of people

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because the intention it's powerful, you know, and that's what happens.

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It's it's exponentially much more powerful, even maybe more helpful

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to make the energy transitions.

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Speaker 1: As a as a psychic medium, I imagine that when

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you first started hearing messages and you hear them I'm

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assuming audibly or in the mind or do you see like.

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Speaker 2: What how do you actually yeah, yeah, many ways, right,

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I hear mostly Claire audiently, so.

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Speaker 1: You actually hear outside.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is subjective and objective hearing. I hear a

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lot of it subjectively. Sometimes I hear it outside myself,

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which is objectively. And then but I also see using

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the clairvoyance or once again Claire sentience a lot in

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the feeling. Sometimes I'll smell cigarette smoke, right, so that's

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like claral factory, or you know, you taste Grandma's apple pie,

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apple pie. I was going to say, pasta sauce. You know,

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sometimes you just know things. It just drops in that

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clear cognizance.

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Speaker 1: So how do you know the difference? I mean, I'm

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sure you've kind of honed it at this point, but

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when you first how did you know the difference between imagination,

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your own self talk and your own brain talking to

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you and true divine communication.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's really incredible. It's a question that is

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I think would help a lot of people too, because

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I get asked that question a lot, and it's it's

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a tough question to answer because you have to trust

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what you're getting. So the difference for me is sometimes

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it's doesn't sound like my voice, you know, it does

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sound like it's a higher power or different tone, different

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tone like a student, a different like if it's a

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male loved one coming through a departed loved one. They

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do sound different than than me, and they feel different.

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The energy is feels different. It's usual. I usually get

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spirit over my right shoulder. So that's and how I

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trust it is the difference between trusting your intuition and

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knowing it's your own imagination. It's also through practice, but

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it's also so setting that intention. If I set the

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intention to connect with the loved one in spirit, I

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know that anything from that point forward is from the

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spirit world, and I get validations or confirmations from the

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people I'm working across, from the sitter, the recipient of

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the information, they can validate that. So you could also

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call me an evidential medium where I bring through, you know,

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validations and confirmation that that information's true.

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Speaker 1: That you used to walk into the cane and the

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cane had a horse heat on it, right, like things

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like that, and you there's just no way you.

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Speaker 2: Would know exactly, And you can also know if it's

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validation if it comes through repeatedly.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Also, I could ask the spirit world to give me

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something else that the person the client can validate, and

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that would also be another level of validation. You know,

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for example, were you making peanut butter and jelly sandwich

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last week that and you would say yes, I can,

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and then it would be a confirmation from spirit. They

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can confirm that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because it is a fine line between being

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a clairvoyant and crazy. I mean, I mean you could.

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You could literally because you could like, am I listening

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to my voice? And you can make things up in

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your own mind and you could start rationalizing. I say

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that with all the love in the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love the question because a lot of people

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come to me and go, oh my god, am I

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going crazy?

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Speaker 1: Like right, because most people it's I can imagine that. Look,

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if all of a sudden, I'm like, wake up in

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the morning and all of a sudden, Grandma's there, I'll

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be like, Okay, yeah, Now, obviously I'd probably react a

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little differently. Now I have a lot more experience in

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this world. I'd be like, Grandma, Okay, is this a

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new thing? All right? Fantastic, But if I start hearing

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voices of people or things like that, I'd be like like, yeah, again,

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I would be a little bit different at this point.

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But if five years ago, yeah, ten years ago, I'd

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be like different, I'd be like, what what has happened?

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So it it's it seems like there's a lot more

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people opening up now than there used to be, and

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there's a lot more people trying to figure out what

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the hell's happening to them? And am I crazy or

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am I clairvoyant? You know, there's a fine it's a

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fine one.

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Speaker 2: It's a fine line. And I got to tell you, look,

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you got to prepare to channel this high energy from

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loved once you got to ground yourself. You know, you

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got to know yourself. You got to know your own

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energy first before you connect. And it does feel like it.

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Not not connecting with loved ones feels like you're going crazy.

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But people who are going through a transformative time in

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their life that can feel crazy, like, hey, the world's

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you know, the ground's falling out from underneath my feet, right,

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the floor is dropping out, I lost my job, my relationship,

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what's happening?

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Speaker 1: Basically being a teenager all your life, Basically the energy

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of a teenager all your life, because everything is dramatic,

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the world this coming to the end all the time.

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Speaker 2: I just say, look, just hang on, right, hang on,

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hold the light for yourself, just kind of prey right,

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hold this grounding light, hold that grounding cord. But it

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is it does feel like a little bit of craziness

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now and then, but really connecting with the loved ones,

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I gotta say, you got to know, when you step

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into intuition and connecting with loved ones, guides, angels, it's

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a very high vibrational experience. It's loving, it's supportive, it's

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something otherworldly.

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Speaker 1: Do you I know with channels from what I understand

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that they have to prepare their nervous system to handle

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the energy coming through. And it's a gradual like almost

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you got to just kind of you know, it's like weights.

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You can't lift the heavyweight right away. You need to

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kind of build up tolerance. Tolerance is the word.

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Speaker 2: It was a good example.

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Speaker 1: You have to build up tolerance before you can go

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in and bench five hundred pounds. You got to start

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with fifty and go and start, because if you try

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to lift five hundred pounds, yeah, you will die. So

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similarly like you can't bring in the energy of Buddha

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exactly off the bat, you'll fry exactly. So how is

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it for psychic mediums. It is.

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Speaker 2: It's like a muscle. It's like a psychic muscle. It's

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like your bicep muscle. It is all about practice, grounding, centering, meditation,

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sitting in the power of many people call deeper meditation,

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but it is. It's a practice. It's a foundation and

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it's something that you have to layer. You want to

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practice it and create. Like that muscle, you want to

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develop it and strengthen it because, for example, I could

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00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,640
connect with your grandfather and spirit, but if I develop

474
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,799
it through a daily practice or ritual or practicing self care,

475
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,519
perhaps I can go deeper with information. That's always the

476
00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:52,680
message is to bring through their need, like what what

477
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,319
is the message they're trying to bring through? And to

478
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,359
be that good medium or to be that good uh

479
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,920
you know, custodium where I can connect and give them

480
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,720
the message. That's the beauty of it.

481
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,519
Speaker 1: And from my understanding, it's not as much that and

482
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,160
please correct me, I For'm wrong. It's not as much

483
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,279
that you're helping the other side. It's the other side

484
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:13,720
trying to get a message that it's going to help us,

485
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:15,759
because they don't really they're cool on the other side,

486
00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:17,759
they don't like they're not sitting there like, oh, I

487
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:21,039
wish I would have told my wife this or my

488
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,599
daughter that. That's not They're cool. On the other side,

489
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,400
they want to send that message over to heal us

490
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,119
while we're here. Is that makes sense?

491
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: You know it does, and they are there. We have

492
00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:34,680
to honor their need right, the spirit's needs. So when

493
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,000
a client comes to see me, they think I'm going

494
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,119
to answer their questions, but it's like, nah, I work

495
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,319
for the spirit world. Like I'm going to be their voice.

496
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,720
Whatever they want to say, whatever they want to say, yeah,

497
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,240
is going to be. But I do want to tell

498
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,680
you an experience I had. I felt like I was.

499
00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:51,680
I felt like when I was connecting with the woman

500
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,000
just recently, her mom was really being helped from the

501
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,880
other side. Her mom really came through and said, thank

502
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,240
you for all the prayers and sending me. I know

503
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,480
we didn't get along so much in the physical, but

504
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:06,759
thank you for honoring me and respecting me and still

505
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,440
caring on such high regard for me. It was if

506
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,359
the mother who had passed had had an awakening in

507
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,319
the spirit world, like she was able to release a lot,

508
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:20,319
she was able to evolve right, it's all about evolving,

509
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,480
so it's quite moving when we connect.

510
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, when the soul passes over

511
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,599
to the other side, obviously they are they're wrapped in

512
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,079
our kind of personality at the beginning, I think, correct

513
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,440
me if I'm wrong, you know, Alex and Cheryl. Okay,

514
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,400
So when we cross over, hopefully ninety times soon, Like

515
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,039
I always say, everybody wants to go to heaven, just

516
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:46,799
not right now. So when we pass over, we're going

517
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:50,839
to have our suit on, like our personality a bit.

518
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,400
And then my kids, if I'm going to speak to them,

519
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,720
I'm not going to speak to them as the Roman

520
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:59,400
soldier I was five lifetimes ago. That's right. I'll speak

521
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,960
to them from this point of view. But a lot

522
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,839
of people are like, so is Alex or Cheryl just

523
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,720
hanging out at a coffee bar because they have to

524
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:10,119
throw a human thing on it on the other side.

525
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,519
But wait a minute. If there's all these other souls,

526
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,160
other experiences happening, so at what point do I lose Alex?

527
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,720
You know? And I'm the witch that got burned at Salem,

528
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,240
or I was a Roman soldier. I wasn't back in Egypt.

529
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,160
All the other lifetimes I've been. I was a never

530
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,079
clear patrack. I was only cleaned up the poop behind

531
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:34,519
the horses that carried clear patra That's who I was.

532
00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:37,759
Speaker 2: To say, who is to say that you are going

533
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:38,839
to lose Alex?

534
00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: No, that's my point, Like I'm just that's my question,

535
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,319
like do our because I know these personalities that we've

536
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:47,920
built are going to be part of the sole experience,

537
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,559
there's no question. But at a certain point, let's say

538
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,559
I'm in a lifetime two hundred years from now, Alex

539
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,960
is not going to be their aspects of who I was,

540
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,759
as aspects of who I've been a end this. I've

541
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:04,559
been told that I've I've been burned many times. Yeah,

542
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,519
I've been in prison many times. I speak out a lot. Apparently,

543
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,079
I'm a troublemaker apparently, and especially in the spiritual space,

544
00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:13,160
I've been a monk and a spiritualist, all this kind

545
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,160
of stuff. So that's all all this stuff makes sense

546
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,519
to me, right, So I carried a lot of that

547
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:21,160
stuff with me in this into this life, and I'm

548
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,640
sure I'll carry it. But yeah, I don't have my

549
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:27,359
personality from when I was imprisoned in Spain. You know,

550
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,000
well tell me, tell me this is we're going deep

551
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,440
into deep waters here and we're going to get the depot.

552
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:38,079
Speaker 2: So you're so so Alex, you're a soul and what

553
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,359
happened is in this lifetime is, Alex, you have brought

554
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,400
other past lives with you into this lifetime. You brought

555
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,480
past lives that you enjoyed that you you know, you

556
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,839
had a family perhaps in a past lifetime, so you

557
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,680
wanted to recreate that in this lifetime, right, uh. And

558
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,599
there are aspects to our soul we're are. I think

559
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,599
our consciousness, which this is all about. Our soul's contraciousness

560
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,480
is so vast in the afterlife or in the other world,

561
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,039
in the spirit world, that we can be Alex the Dad,

562
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:12,319
but we can also still retain or have those memories

563
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:16,640
of other past life souls to your children. You'll always

564
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,240
be Dad when that time comes when you do cross over,

565
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,240
and you'll always remain that way. At the same time,

566
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,960
you will also have all that other information available to you. So,

567
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:32,720
for example, I always feel because I've had past lives

568
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,000
in Egypt, right, you have all been there. You were

569
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,000
cleaning up by thinks I was cleaning.

570
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,279
Speaker 1: Up behind Claire Patcher. Yes, I mean I don't want to.

571
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:43,279
I'm always adjacent from the famous you know, I was

572
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:45,160
it with Julius Caesar. I was the guy behind.

573
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: So I always feel, I always feel when I need information,

574
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,200
I can reach over into that past life in Egypt.

575
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:57,079
It's like reaching over into my spiritual library of you know,

576
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:01,480
the Akashic records for example, and getting energy or information

577
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:05,240
from that past life to help answer questions in this lifetime.

578
00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:09,160
Or so we pull from those resources if that helps.

579
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

580
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:18,839
and now back to the show.

581
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: You know, your soul is amazing, and you know a

582
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,880
lot of people think it's somewhere else. Just to just

583
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,519
to let people know, you know, the spirit world is here.

584
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,400
We're here where spirit our loved ones are here. We're

585
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400
all in the same mix, so to speak. Maybe they're

586
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,640
a thought away, or they're a vibration away, but it's

587
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,759
not that we can't create that or maintain it or

588
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,759
reach that. We can raise our vibration. So but just

589
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,240
you know, they are here. They are experiencing the world

590
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:51,720
as we experience them. And I think your loved ones

591
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,279
who have passed they're here watching you they're helping, their supporting.

592
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,799
Do you feel them. I feel them that, Yeah, there

593
00:30:57,839 --> 00:30:58,519
feel they're here.

594
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you. So a lot of times

595
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,519
I hear from mediums who like they're coming on the

596
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,400
show and they're like, oh my god, there's this dude

597
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,799
that just keeps bothering me. He keeps coming in. But

598
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,599
I hear that from mediums that like, if they're going

599
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,880
into a session the next day, the relatives start showing

600
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:19,599
up like like twelve hours earlier, sometimes a week earlier.

601
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:21,440
They're like, oh, I know you're going to go talk

602
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,599
to Beth. I need I'm here. Yeah, And you're like, dude,

603
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,160
seven days I know, can you just relax? Yeah?

604
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,119
Speaker 2: Can you come back? You know, thanks for coming. It's

605
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720
so true, thanks for coming. Come back when your loved

606
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,759
one's here, and let's really you know, connect. It does happen.

607
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,160
I will pick up energies from a week prior to

608
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,920
the event or a week day before the reading. I'll

609
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,519
start the morning of and we'll start picking them through.

610
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,440
So what I do personally is I just acknowledge, Hey,

611
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:52,799
I understand that you're here, thank you, and I'll be

612
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,640
working at you know that five o'clock that evening, like

613
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,279
please come back. But it is a it is kind

614
00:31:58,319 --> 00:31:59,359
of a discipline, right.

615
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,559
Speaker 1: It's kind of like that scene and Ghost with Whoopy

616
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:05,599
Goldberg and all the all the ghosts hanging around in

617
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240
the waiting room and they line up and they're lining

618
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:10,799
up and she's like saying, what do you make me do? Now?

619
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:13,960
Everybody's here? All these is there a Ronaldo? Ronaldo? Is there?

620
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,039
Ronaldo in the house? And they're like, I'm here. I'm like,

621
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:16,799
all right, he's here.

622
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:17,799
Speaker 2: It's so true?

623
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,079
Speaker 1: Is it?

624
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: Something like all the dads come through? For example, everyone

625
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,599
knows my dad. Just to tell you, my dad, when

626
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,079
he was alive, he did not believe in this, not

627
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,799
that he was a skeptic, but he hadn't had the experiences.

628
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,039
He's like, scherol, I believe in you. I believe you've

629
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:35,720
had the experiences, but I personally so after his passing.

630
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Now with my other medium friends or colleagues, what have you,

631
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,279
it's Cheryl's dad's here.

632
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:41,599
Speaker 1: You know.

633
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,359
Speaker 2: It's like he's trying to help everyone, Like he gets

634
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:48,880
so much thrill of supporting everyone. I know? Is that endearments?

635
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,720
That's sweet? I know, so even loved ones that haven't

636
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,960
had the experience or didn't believe in this. They're stepping

637
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200
into the energy of mediumship.

638
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Did you when your dad first came in after he

639
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,720
pass did you go? I told you, and he's like,

640
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:04,200
who knew?

641
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:10,319
Speaker 2: No, No, but he laughed a lot about it. He said,

642
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,759
this is pretty interesting. This is pretty interesting.

643
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. Yeah. Yeah, so just out of curiosity, I'm

644
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,319
not going to ask for it. But did anyone come

645
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:19,000
knocking on the door because they knew you were coming?

646
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Of course, you know, Yogananda was the first out

647
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,079
of the GOP. I'm telling you, I know there's a

648
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,400
strong soul connection with you and him. I feel like

649
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,920
the two of you have walked before, and you know

650
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,839
there is something about trading information, meaning you either wrote

651
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,240
together or used to write for him, or something about

652
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,279
this being a colleague in some way, not always just

653
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,839
a student of his, but being more than that, you know,

654
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,880
an assistant or a right hand or a fellow enlightened one.

655
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:54,240
I also felt your grandmother and your grandfather always show up.

656
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,000
I know your grandmother is doting on you. That's kind

657
00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:01,599
of how I keep hearing about it. Right. Is your protector? Oh,

658
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,599
A strong.

659
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:06,079
Speaker 1: One, A very strong one and she was also the psychic.

660
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,760
Was she she was? She had the gift, She had

661
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,039
the gift, but she never we never spoke about it.

662
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,280
I didn't know until probably a year ago my mom

663
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,039
told me about this story. It's amazing and she had

664
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:21,519
the gift and my aunt had the gift, and uh.

665
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: It's affirming that what you're doing now, then that's what

666
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,559
it does, right, It affirms how you got to where

667
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:27,199
you are here.

668
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: It's insane. I don't even know how I got where

669
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,719
I got it. It doesn't even make any sense. I

670
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,360
always tell people on paper, this makes no sense. Well,

671
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,639
I'm not a psychic, I'm not a clairvoyan. I'm not

672
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,079
a channel. And yet we do the show and it

673
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,800
but the more I do the show, the more I understand, like,

674
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,880
oh so I needed to go.

675
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,679
Speaker 2: This and the well you're following your heart now, what's

676
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,760
happening right that this is all heart here?

677
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

678
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,039
Speaker 2: This is all heart.

679
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love I love doing this. I love doing this.

680
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,119
But I'm glad Grandma and Grandpa yeah they always there

681
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,880
was jockey too. I found that it was jockey for position,

682
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,559
no for positions. So sometimes like Grandma gets a lot

683
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,360
of action to get in and then Grandpa is like,

684
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,119
enough of that. I want some action now, and I

685
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:08,840
want to talk to him and like, first of all,

686
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,920
I don't like what you're doing with this, and it's

687
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,000
like this is this and you need to cover this up.

688
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,519
I'm like, okay, okay, that's Grandpa.

689
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, you got to hear them out. You got

690
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,079
to hear them out. And they have every right to

691
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:23,239
to kind of work off each other because it just

692
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,320
feels like you have such a balance in your family

693
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,679
even like you know, very much respect in the male

694
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,199
and the female side, so you know, it makes sense

695
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,000
that they both come through to help you.

696
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: That's that's fascinating. So with all the stuff that's going

697
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,039
on in the world right now, you know, I'm assuming

698
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:45,840
you have some insight of why we're going through what

699
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,000
we're going through right now, and where we're going in

700
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:51,639
the next year. This has been a crazy year. Crazy

701
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:54,119
it's been a nutty I mean every year since.

702
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty exactly, it's been.

703
00:35:55,679 --> 00:36:00,039
Speaker 1: Getting weirder and weirder and weirder and weirder, and and

704
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,960
it's like this year has been insane, and I have

705
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,159
a feeling twenty six is not gonna not gonna let up.

706
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,480
But can you do you have any understanding of what's

707
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,079
happening to us right now, why it's happening to us,

708
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,280
and the next year, the next five years. You know,

709
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,519
where's the light at.

710
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: The end of this question, because it's always there and

711
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,079
even even before twenty twenty, for example, twenty twelve. Yeah,

712
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,679
you know, exactly exactly, You're exactly right, the end of

713
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,480
the mind calendar.

714
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty twelve is when it it started. Twenty twelve,

715
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,039
twenty sixteen, that was another big year I remember, but

716
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:40,840
twenty twelve, it's wasn't what mine is. I think what

717
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,239
this is just my understanding the minds. We're not saying

718
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,480
that the world was going to end. Is the old

719
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:48,440
world that we lived in was going to go right,

720
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,199
and now we're starting a new phase of humanity and

721
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:52,719
that's what that marker was, if if.

722
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,159
Speaker 2: I'm correct, And a new consciousness is happening too, so

723
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,760
you know, there is a new consciousness, there's worldly information

724
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,280
coming through. So how I'm feeling it is there's a

725
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,880
release happening. You know, there are things breaking down, you know,

726
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,320
the financial market, the housing market back and what in

727
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,400
twenty eighteen, everything that the health industry. Good gracious, Hollywood.

728
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean all of it's all of that's cracking. You

729
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:18,920
see it everywhere. Charges I mean, the.

730
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: Vatican all that they can't hold the new light that's happening.

731
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,239
And there is kind of an explosion happening, but it's

732
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,840
it's more of like an explosion of light. But it's

733
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,360
about releasing, you know. It's not like holding on, Oh

734
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,000
my god, we're going to be okay. It's like, no,

735
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,360
wait a minute. You've got to kind of trust your

736
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,559
you know. This is why this work is so important

737
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,079
right now. You've got to kind of be grounded, trust

738
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:43,480
that what's happening is shifting and that there is a

739
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,639
good thing coming. There's a good time happening. But a

740
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:50,519
lot of things, the darkness is being pointed out. For example,

741
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:54,400
the darkness is rising, but also there's light in the darkness,

742
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,920
you know, and that's why things are shifting and opening.

743
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,840
I think the young kids being born these days or

744
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,760
also they're also paving the way. But I think the

745
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,280
elders in some way are becoming even more I don't know,

746
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,679
there's just so much more in tune. They're more aware,

747
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,159
like people are more connected to their elders perhaps right now,

748
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,360
if that makes sense.

749
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: It's to a certain extent, yeah, I mean culturally it's

750
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,039
a different thing here in the West, but like in

751
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,039
Japan and in South America and you know, those kind

752
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:24,239
of cultures, they are a little bit in other areas

753
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,679
of course in the world too. Please don't leave comments

754
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,760
that are that are really family oriented and they're starting

755
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,840
to look at their elders in a different way. The

756
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,480
kids today are coming in wired, They're.

757
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: They're coming and way knowing more than we are, and

758
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,599
they're here to help balance or rebalance or so what's

759
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,880
also happening with that release work is there's a unity happening.

760
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:50,800
It's about you know, you know, connecting with each individual,

761
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,079
and not not only people, but connecting with Mother Earth

762
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,559
as well. You know, we have to not only take

763
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:59,519
care of her, meaning we have to ground ourselves to

764
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:04,079
her because she is part of this exchange happening or

765
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:08,199
this awakening happening. So not only are you and I

766
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,880
and everyone going through transformative times, but the earth countries

767
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,760
are going through transformation. Animals are, the animal world, the

768
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,480
plant kingdom. Everything is being shown more light. And that's

769
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:25,559
what's so interesting is the eyes that you and I have, right,

770
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:27,800
we have our physical eyes, we have our spiritual eyes.

771
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,440
But I do feel we're going to be seeing more

772
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:33,960
light coming in, meaning that we're going to be seeing

773
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,719
even new color, if that makes sense. It's not just

774
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,800
the shades of the rainbow, for example, but there's more

775
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,480
differentiation and how we're seeing and perceiving information coming through,

776
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,360
and the consciousness coming through, and the new world. I feel,

777
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,039
I almost feel like there's more than one Earth, right,

778
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,119
have you heard that before? There we are in the.

779
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Multiverse, multiverse timelines, of course, and that's the Mandela effect.

780
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,079
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

781
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,199
and now back to the show.

782
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: Shifting. You know many of us. Okay, I have to

783
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,760
ask you the question. Yes, did Ed McMahon go and

784
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,320
knock on people's doors and give people million dollar checks

785
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,320
for the publisher clearing House?

786
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: I believe?

787
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,079
Speaker 1: So? Okay, so you and I are in the same timeline.

788
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,159
Never happened. Never, it never happened. He never worked for

789
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:31,920
Publisher's clearing House. He never did any of that stuff.

790
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:34,079
He never worked for any of those things. He worked

791
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:37,480
for another company called American Family or something like that.

792
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,880
But he didn't do the check to the door, that's

793
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,440
what they say. But yet, yeah, if you look up

794
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:50,239
on YouTube, right, he did guest appearances on eighties sitcoms

795
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,000
as himself coming to the door with a million dollar

796
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,480
check in a camera. Okay, so what the hell is happening.

797
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,840
So that's a perfect example of the Medel effect that

798
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,400
there's two different realities.

799
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: Well there's more than two. Oh, there's there's that's the

800
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,440
point of view. Look, we're getting So what's happening is

801
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,239
we're getting deep into consciousness work right now. We're getting

802
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,400
to deep awareness with people right now, and if they

803
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,320
need to have a sense of self, they need to

804
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,360
have a sense of gratitude to stay grounded. I even

805
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,280
feel in the future anger is going to be shifted out.

806
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,960
Like we're learning other values, we could say in some way,

807
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,760
we're learning more about the heart being our guide. We're

808
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,679
learning more about that you and I can be leaders,

809
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,559
as you already are with this amazing podcast you have.

810
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:43,440
You're welcome. It's such a privilege and to also honor

811
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,920
that each one of us is our own master learning right,

812
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:51,280
rather than having all of these subclasses or these we're

813
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,079
also once again moving into the unity feelings.

814
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: How I'm working away from dogma.

815
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: It's becoming more of a It's like letting more of

816
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,360
a higher vibration step into our path and learning to

817
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,880
lean on them. So we're leaning on more of a trusting,

818
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,679
a trusting feeling we are and learning to have faith,

819
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,559
you know. It is walking into that mystery, right living

820
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,800
the unknown. That's where we are right now.

821
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: I think that's why everyone's so terrified.

822
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: A lot of fear.

823
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: Because everything is, everything's changing so rapidly. AI is it

824
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,920
is taking not taking over, but in the sense that

825
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,920
it's becoming a major part of our lives, kind of

826
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,000
like when the Internet showed up.

827
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:32,599
Speaker 2: Exactly even more so much more and a I can

828
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,320
be a full on inspiration, it can be a full

829
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,440
on right, it can be a full on healer, like

830
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,559
I feel AI moving into learning, you know, helping people

831
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:42,880
with illnesses right finding those answers.

832
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: It could find a cure for a disease, or help

833
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,800
people understand their body better, things like that. It's you know,

834
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,960
but a lot of people think of terminator or the matrix.

835
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:56,119
That's that's where it's all. It's a tool. Anything, it's

836
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,639
like anything else is. I use the example for people

837
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:03,079
that people like, everything's changing, everything's moving. I'm like, for

838
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:07,079
our you know, for generation, your generation, of my generation, Sears,

839
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,800
where is it it's gone? Sears was around for over

840
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,559
one hundred years.

841
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: It was the only thing out there.

842
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: It was, it was, it was an institution. Yeah, you know,

843
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,639
you could argue Blockbuster, but Blockbuster was only around for

844
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:21,280
a few decades, you know, twenty years, thirty years, something

845
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,159
like that. But Sears, Yeah, was around, for instance, the

846
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:25,840
eighteen hundred.

847
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: They sold houses. Yeah, you could buy a house.

848
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: Three thousand dollars or something like that and they would

849
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,760
ship it to you. They would they would do ship

850
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,559
it to you. They would ship you house and you

851
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:40,039
just build it. They can say insane stuff, but that's

852
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:43,719
a that's a perfect example of an institution that that

853
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,639
just left. And there's so many of those. You know,

854
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,159
you look at the Vatican, you know, different, a little

855
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,960
bit different than Seers, but you could see the cracks.

856
00:43:53,119 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the Vatican maybe slower to change, oh to change.

857
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: They'll be the last to change. They'll change, but they'll

858
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:06,079
be the last to change.

859
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,599
Speaker 2: And that that too is quite a movement happening. You know.

860
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,599
So look, Sears, let's go back to sears. A lot

861
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:15,920
of people now are afraid of their jobs. They're afraid

862
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,239
of I mean, they could lose their job tomorrow because

863
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,559
it's a real iffy universe happening. So the goal right now,

864
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,360
what I'm seeing happening once again, it's the release happening

865
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:29,760
of holding onto what was or what is for people

866
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,239
understanding that there's different sides of us opening and awakening,

867
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,360
Like we can do more than just this nine to

868
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,440
five feeling, for example, we can do more healing work.

869
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,840
We can work with other realms, we can work with

870
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,400
other dimensions. And perhaps that is that awakening happening. Like

871
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,960
the children have it these days that they're going to

872
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,599
become our teachers. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah.

873
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:57,559
Speaker 1: My kids are among annoying the hell out of me.

874
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,960
They are teachers, there's no question.

875
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: And it's yeah. And people are opening up to their

876
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,679
empathic abilities, you know, they're opening up to their intuitive

877
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,599
and that is very fearful for people. They're like, what's happening.

878
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:12,079
I'm hearing, I'm seeing, I'm feeling. I fill the room

879
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,559
and you know, and it's actually that superpower that I

880
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:18,000
want to tell people about. Look, we have to ground

881
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:20,880
your energy into Mother Earth. We have to put you

882
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,039
in your body. A lot of people are out there,

883
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:25,039
a lot of people are walking around the planet, you know,

884
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:28,000
two or three inches above the planet because they're all

885
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,320
up in their mental energy. They're in their headspace.

886
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: On the drama, well, it's Plato's algory of the cave.

887
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,440
They just keep looking at the shadows on the wall.

888
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: It's so true.

889
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Right, that's all they're doing.

890
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,639
Speaker 2: And then that's being manifested. Right, that's what's happening. And

891
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,440
we have to really understand that mindfulness patience. Right, each

892
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:48,440
day is new, each moment.

893
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been in this space for a long time

894
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,840
and you've seen a change in the last twenty years,

895
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:59,360
last thirty years, and I mean it's very different than

896
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,000
it was before. What do you feel about this whole,

897
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:06,280
this industry, this space, this niche of spirituality, because there's

898
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,639
a lot of amazing people in it who are doing

899
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:11,000
good work. Yeah, and then of course there's the other

900
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,559
others who are doing it for egotistical reasons, are just

901
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:17,920
purely for money. You're not really trying to shine light

902
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,119
in the world, not trying to really lift it. Maybe

903
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:23,360
fear basing, doing fear based stuff as opposed to love

904
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,039
and light. What's your take on all of that from

905
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:27,679
your point of seeing it change?

906
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,199
Speaker 2: I have, Well, I'll go back to you know, with

907
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,159
me going to school like I didn't. This conversation wouldn't

908
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:37,280
have happened in my school yard, for example. So that's

909
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,480
how it was growing up, and there weren't many places

910
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:44,199
to study this, and for me personally, I wanted to

911
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,559
work with like minded people like I'm looking for my

912
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,760
tribe growing up, going where are you? It was not

913
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,000
in the world as they are today. It's much more mainstream.

914
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:55,440
But at the same time, I want to tell you

915
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:58,639
I feel for me personally it's my vocation, like it's

916
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:02,079
a calling. I don't know if everyone has that same

917
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:07,519
goal in them and so if it's for the highest reason.

918
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,880
I really think there's a lot of integrity with mediums today.

919
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:14,559
There's still the other side. You know, you have to

920
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:17,480
watch out for frauds, you have to watch out for people.

921
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: At carnivals, at carnivals, you know the side things wrong

922
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,559
with psychic carnivals.

923
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: Or you know, you have to you have to take

924
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,079
everything with a grain of salt.

925
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:29,559
Speaker 1: There's a crystal ball you should run. You need to

926
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,800
take pause, and you need to take pause.

927
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: And that's where intuition comes in, and that's where referral

928
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:43,159
comes in. But there's still an amazing presence of mediums

929
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:46,159
lifting this light. And I like to put myself in

930
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:49,559
there about you know, working with people who have high integrity,

931
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:53,119
and not only mediums, but you know healers. Oh my god,

932
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,440
so many amazing healers and light workers, you know, channelers.

933
00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:00,840
As as you've mentioned, there is this force or this

934
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,079
movement raising this planet. So it is about kind of

935
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:07,199
going through the weeds and weeding them out. But once

936
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,280
you kind of discover and programs like yours are out

937
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,159
there absolutely to lift that vibration of the planet with

938
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,559
integrity and mindfulness and compassion and understanding. So I think

939
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:20,039
if you reach for those, or if you're going for that,

940
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:24,840
you're more likely to find someone or find a group.

941
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,000
That's why I started my healing Prayer Circle was to

942
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,719
create a community of like minded people because I didn't

943
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,039
have that growing up. So I wanted to give other

944
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,480
people that offering of hey, look you can come here,

945
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:40,599
we can talk about this, right, we can pray or

946
00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:45,639
meditate together. And that's really such an amazing energy now

947
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:46,920
that's being created.

948
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's stuff that really exists at all.

949
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:55,119
Speaker 2: Much more mainstream, and once again there's books everywhere. They're

950
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:56,239
making you know, ghost.

951
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,119
Speaker 1: The movies are.

952
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: Out there, which is Hollywood. Some of it's holly. Ghost

953
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,840
is more ghost, I mean, is more tuned in.

954
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: I just watched I just watched it again a few

955
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,039
weeks ago, actually watched it with my daughters because I

956
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:12,880
hadn't seen it ever. And I'm like, yeah, I watch

957
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,440
Ghosts because are fans of like those those eighties heart throbs,

958
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,400
because they're like, there's nothing like those guys now. I'm like, yeah,

959
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,440
Patrick Swayze's not around right now in his prime. I mean,

960
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:26,440
you know Patrick and all those guys back in the day.

961
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,800
So they watched it, and I was watching it, I'm like,

962
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,440
my god, he nailed a lot. And I know, yeah,

963
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:33,639
I know Bruce who wrote it, and he won the

964
00:49:33,639 --> 00:49:36,519
Oscar for it, and I know the backstory of the

965
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:39,199
whole how he came up with it and his whole

966
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:45,199
spiritual journey. He's a Tibetan. He's a Tibetan meditation teacher now.

967
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:49,440
But but you could see that he got a lot.

968
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:53,159
Speaker 2: He got a lot right, because Whoopy Goldberg is also evident.

969
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,480
I mean she's providing evidential information that did media can

970
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,000
can can confirm. And and then once again the Trance Channel,

971
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,559
as you mentioned, she starts hearing everybody in the room

972
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:08,159
and calling out names and really setting that intention. I

973
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:10,599
think she did. I think she was that mystic, you know.

974
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,079
I think he did get it right with connecting with

975
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:15,880
the Departed Spirit Company.

976
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,199
Speaker 1: I love that she was a charlatan at the beginning.

977
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: That she didn't believe.

978
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: No, she wasn't, she wasn't a real she was just

979
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:23,960
she was at out for the buck. She was out

980
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,280
for the buck. She was a hustler. She's like, you know,

981
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,079
doing the whole like the whole thing. Yeah. What I

982
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:34,119
love about you, Cheryl is that you present yourself in

983
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,519
a very professional manner. You're very articulate.

984
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

985
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,880
and now back to the show.

986
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: And that is I'm hoping what I'm trying to do

987
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,119
with the show is to put that kind of light

988
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,440
on this kind of work because it's been bastardized by

989
00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:01,039
Hollywood and also just from reality because that's what it

990
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:04,480
was with the whole gypsy vibe and the you know,

991
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,039
the crystal ball and all of that kind of vibe

992
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,960
where people it was it was laughing stock almost, and

993
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,159
that's why people normal mainstream never took it seriously. But

994
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:16,280
there's so many people like you know, mediums like you

995
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,880
have enentil, Mediums like you who are professional, who dressed professionally,

996
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,920
who speak professionally in and that you can't argue like,

997
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,480
is she nuts? Yeah, well, if she is, she's well

998
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:29,079
put together. Let me tell you she speaks pretty well.

999
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you give me a second here. I have

1000
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:37,559
an amazing set of beautiful mentors and instructors, and I

1001
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:41,599
got to tell you I have learned from spirit so much.

1002
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:45,639
They're an amazing teacher the spirit world. And as you

1003
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,039
mentioned the fear and the taboo, you know, that's what

1004
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:51,920
it was, is the psychic. The word psychic commits so

1005
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,639
many different things. Back then it was a darker energy,

1006
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,960
or it was something to fear, or it was against

1007
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,400
my religion, right, it was against a religious belief.

1008
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,519
Speaker 1: It's a devil's work. Obviously, there we are you are

1009
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:04,440
the devil, so am I obviously?

1010
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, So what we've learned and well, what we've

1011
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,039
learned is you know, the Bible is probably the most

1012
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:13,280
metaphysical book out there, right, and so but you know

1013
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,039
it's all maybe on how you look at it, but

1014
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:17,280
it's really through experience. And that's what I do in

1015
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,159
my mediumship is offer validation and evidence to support that

1016
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:24,119
I am connecting with your loved one and to bring

1017
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:27,559
you the feeling. My goal always is to help people

1018
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:30,159
connect with their loved one's heart to heart right help

1019
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:33,000
them feel like, oh my god, this is possible. Your

1020
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:35,360
loved one can be right here. You are receiving the

1021
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,320
signs or the tap on the shoulder or the smell

1022
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,400
of their fragrance in the room, like that is yours

1023
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,039
loved ones.

1024
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: I remember when I was you know, when I stepped

1025
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,840
my toe into this space as a podcaster, I was terrified,

1026
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:53,039
terrified because I was had. I had a real, big,

1027
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,840
real business. I had another business, yeah that was in

1028
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,360
the filmmaking world. And I was forced into this by

1029
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,320
my fame, my spiritual mentor, Connie, and she's like, you

1030
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,480
need to do it, you need to do and I'm like,

1031
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,039
all right, whatever, I'll do it. But I was terrified

1032
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,679
and I literally for the I mean, I stopped I

1033
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:09,920
don't know if you knew that, but I stopped for

1034
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,400
so I started Easter of twenty twenty one, okay, and

1035
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,320
I would do an episode a week, maybe one every

1036
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,239
other week, and it turned into once a month. And

1037
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,719
if anyone who's bumping following me, they know I put

1038
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,440
out content like water. So at our peak we were

1039
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,960
doing four to five episodes a week. So I was

1040
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,159
not bad. It's insane. I don't advise it. There's a

1041
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:34,960
lot of work, but I kind of dipped my toe

1042
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,199
into it, and then I stopped for three months, three

1043
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:39,639
to four months. I just stopped the whole show until

1044
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:40,960
Connie yelled at me, and.

1045
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,679
Speaker 2: Then I, yes, you were being called back.

1046
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: She yelled at me, and I went back in and

1047
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,119
I went hard and into it, and I took the

1048
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:50,440
deep the leap of faith. But for the first year

1049
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,079
and a half, I didn't have a psychic gone. People

1050
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:56,360
can go back to the first hundred episodes, not once.

1051
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,199
I don't think maybe I don't. I don't even think James,

1052
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,840
because I had James James van Prague on, I think

1053
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,400
he was. He might've been one of the first ones

1054
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,159
because he was very popular. Obviously he's very reparable. But

1055
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:10,960
I didn't have psychics on. I didn't have psychics. I

1056
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,840
had mediums. I had channelers on because I knew channelers

1057
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,079
and I felt comfortable with that, right, But I didn't

1058
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:18,719
have psychic mediums, and I did not talk about angels,

1059
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:20,920
like I would never talk about angels. But I'm like,

1060
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000
that's just crazy talk that you're talking angels. Come on.

1061
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:26,840
So it even you could see the progression of me

1062
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,199
of like trying to open up and allow myself to

1063
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,880
do it till I finally started allowing psychics on and

1064
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,320
mediums on. And because of what you said that whole.

1065
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:39,519
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

1066
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,599
Speaker 1: Don't know, I'm like, I don't want to go down

1067
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:44,239
that road. So it's it's really interesting if you go

1068
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,400
back and look at those episodes. You know, I was

1069
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:49,440
very I was. I was still scared.

1070
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were evolving, I had to your soul was evolving,

1071
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,000
and you were being called to spirit nudging you like, hey,

1072
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,960
get some more people on.

1073
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: Right, I was doing your dething, a lot of your

1074
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,440
death experiences, a lot of things that were safer in

1075
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,679
this space, you know, but still on the outskirts obviously.

1076
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,280
But you know, when you have a channel coming in

1077
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,880
and channeling on the show with you. You're definitely not mainstream,

1078
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:13,679
but it took a minute to kind of open myself up.

1079
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,320
So I used that. I use that as an example

1080
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,320
for people to kind of understand that this is a process.

1081
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,599
Like even you, I'm assuming when you first started, it

1082
00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:26,559
took a minute to start. You took steps. It's just

1083
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:28,679
an usually show up and like all right, everyone, I'm

1084
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:30,480
a psychic, now let's roll up.

1085
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,039
Speaker 2: Hey, look it's so true because look I was pumping

1086
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,559
a lot of energy through me too in my early

1087
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:38,679
days where I had to take a break. You know,

1088
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,599
it's like, hey, I need to manage this energy coming through.

1089
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:43,480
I need to take a break, set it down for

1090
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:46,639
a while, and then Spirit would call me back, and

1091
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:49,679
then you know, my mediumship would evolve. I went from

1092
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,199
you know, not only connecting with departed loved ones, but

1093
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,280
then it stepped into departed pets or living pets, and

1094
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,960
then it stepped into medical intuition, and that's what spirit

1095
00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:02,639
it was guiding me towards, right, and then I was

1096
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:05,760
helping find missing persons for a while there also that

1097
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,480
must be though it's lovely, it's hard.

1098
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it has to be tough work

1099
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,199
because if you don't find them, it's hard, or if

1100
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,079
you find them too late. I gotta believe on a

1101
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,880
psychological stamp and an emotional standpoint. It must be brutal.

1102
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,079
Speaker 2: It's hard, it's and it's a lot of work. Meaning, uh,

1103
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,239
it's a lot of psychic work. You've got to really

1104
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,159
it's like remote viewing, you know, which you know, you

1105
00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:30,440
know doing we did latitude longitude locations with Google Earth,

1106
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,320
you know, trying to help locate missing persons. And but yeah,

1107
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,760
but my my medium ship has evolved, you know where

1108
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,639
I'm working more with students and teaching more and I'm

1109
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:44,800
finding my I'm teaching different things. I'm teaching energy transformation

1110
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:49,079
sessions now, which talks about our energy field. So not

1111
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:51,880
only because I'm a medium and an intuitive a psychic,

1112
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,480
but I'm also I have this energy right, my aura,

1113
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,039
So how do I take care of this as a medium?

1114
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,599
And so then now I'm teaching that to other people, like, look,

1115
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,840
you don't have to be a medium or psychic, but

1116
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,960
you got to learn to practice self care because you're

1117
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,800
an energy being. You're an energy being who's probably intuitive,

1118
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,239
right or you know, you're intuitive, especially those impaths that

1119
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,239
are opening up, they're super sensitive. You got to know

1120
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:17,320
how important grounding is, how important it is to connect

1121
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:19,679
with mother Earth, keep your feet on the earth, and

1122
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,400
also how to be aware and practice self care with

1123
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,239
your energy field, like you know, don't drain yourself. You

1124
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,800
know how people work too hard or you're right, Yeah,

1125
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,079
they run themselves to the ground. Is that what they say?

1126
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I've been on the ground a few times.

1127
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:40,440
Sound sure. I'm trying to figure that out myself. Another

1128
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,880
thing that took me a minute to have on the

1129
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,000
show was people who spoke to animals in a psychic

1130
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,360
psychic way, because I was like, that's crazy talk. Why

1131
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,039
are you talking to your dog? That's not that's not

1132
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:53,039
like So it took me a minute to kind of

1133
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:54,880
wrap my head around it. So I wanted to let's

1134
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,480
go into the to the animal aspect.

1135
00:57:56,519 --> 00:57:57,039
Speaker 2: I love it.

1136
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,639
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this because I mean, I have animals.

1137
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:01,639
I've had I had a dog.

1138
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: I know, I felt a dog with your grandmother and grandfather.

1139
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,320
They all start coming in, so I'm like, oh, there's

1140
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,079
the dog, and yeah, your family.

1141
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: Was he a little dude? You don't feel that.

1142
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: I didn't really feel size at the moment. I wasn't

1143
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,880
really going there, but I felt high energy. And I

1144
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,280
feel them usually around the waist or below, you know,

1145
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,039
because this is where they hang out, you know. Or

1146
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:24,159
if they jump in your lap, or if they jump

1147
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,239
up on you, or if they're laying down in the corner,

1148
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,400
I kind of feel their energy what they're doing.

1149
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: I had a dog that had medical issues and for

1150
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,039
probably about three or four years of his life, and

1151
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:38,400
I had to take care of him, and it was

1152
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,840
in my twenties and all that stuff, and it's fascinating,

1153
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,000
it's fascinating. He was my he's my companion since I

1154
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:49,599
was eighteen. And then I met my wife and then

1155
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:52,159
I brought him over, brought her over to meet him,

1156
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:57,039
and the next day he left. He's like, oh, thank god,

1157
00:58:57,119 --> 00:58:58,679
someone else to see how to take this guy on.

1158
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,440
He's a project. He's a project. Good luck to you, girl.

1159
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:07,440
I've already done done. And he left the next time,

1160
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:11,239
and I was like, wow, yeah, no, no, he needed

1161
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,719
to go. IBLY kept them a lit longer than he

1162
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,400
needed to be, to be honest with you, because I

1163
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,079
didn't want to let them go. But but that was

1164
00:59:18,119 --> 00:59:20,440
I found that so fascinated and he has come in

1165
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,920
multiple times when in medium sessions that I've had with

1166
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,679
with friends who's like, you have a dog, I'm like, yeah,

1167
00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:28,480
he's here, and he always hangs all with my grandpa.

1168
00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:31,159
Speaker 2: Is that right? Uh? You know, And what happens is,

1169
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you know, animals, their souls are magnificent. I think you know.

1170
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Of course, animals are underrated, and I mean, I just

1171
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:40,360
they're going to be so much more respected in the future.

1172
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And they're a soul, just like you and I are

1173
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,920
a soul, and they're a guide for us. I would say,

1174
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,599
ask your pets, living or departed. They are a soul.

1175
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,679
Ask them for help if you need it, ask them

1176
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:53,239
for direction in your life, like work with them. They

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are here to help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so can you explain to me? So let's go,

1179
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,280
let's go into the animals for a second. What is

1180
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like when.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

1182
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:10,360
and now back to the show.

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Speaker 1: Are you able to speak to them while they're alive

1184
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,119
or so you speak to them while they're alive, so

1185
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:19,239
so you can have communication with them. Okay, So the

1186
01:00:19,239 --> 01:00:22,440
first time you talk to a dog seriously, seriously, she'll

1187
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,679
tell me the second You're like, what's going on? Like

1188
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,519
you had to like.

1189
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Speaker 2: I had to translate it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, first of all, I'm down with talking

1191
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,480
to grandparents and loved ones. I'll even talk to an

1192
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,360
angel or spirit guide. But now Rover is talking to

1193
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,760
me now? And did you question did you question it

1194
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,360
at all? Like like you.

1195
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,639
Speaker 2: Have to get the German shepherd?

1196
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,159
Speaker 1: Like am I talking to a German shepherd spirit? Really?

1197
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:49,599
Like what was that process for you?

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you it's a pure energy, and it's

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one of delight and one of non judgment. And I

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have and so pimals that are living. How I help

1201
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:04,440
people in that way is people they may have a

1202
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,440
behavior problem, or the owner doesn't know if they should

1203
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,719
get the animal and bring them into the other family

1204
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,079
of animals. Or one time I had a woman work

1205
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:15,960
with me. She had race horses, but they kept injuring themselves,

1206
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,280
and so so I worked with them. Their legs would

1207
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,239
keep getting injured, and so we had to work with

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01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,559
them on an emotional level, and then once she corrected them,

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01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,880
they started placing. We'll just call it that. So I

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,480
do actually help animals communicate, even if they know that

1211
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:35,719
their loved ones are departed. For those that are still living,

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01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:39,280
the animals, the humans, and the animals with they have

1213
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,039
a departed parent will just call her human that departed.

1214
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,119
The animal stays to help the others heal or mend.

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But it's funny, you know, because I was working with

1216
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,920
an animal who's talking to me about a dental appointment.

1217
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,920
He's like, you know, I got to go to the dentist.

1218
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,719
And I tell the owner of that. She's like, oh,

1219
01:01:56,719 --> 01:01:58,320
I know, we haven't a point, and they look at me.

1220
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,039
The owner looks at me like I know that. You know,

1221
01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:05,679
it's just your animal confirming it. It takes them a

1222
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:08,320
minute to go, oh my god, you just got that

1223
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,760
information from my animal.

1224
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Speaker 1: How did you know that? Oh my god, there's a

1225
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,360
I have a cat. I have two cats, and one

1226
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,719
of them is terrified all the time about everything. He's

1227
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:23,280
a scary cat, literally the definition of a scary catt.

1228
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,039
It took him about three years to get warm up

1229
01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:28,480
to me because I was the male boy. Anytime he

1230
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,039
hears a male voice, he's like under the bed. The

1231
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:35,239
other one completely off the stakes, just like he'll go

1232
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,039
with anyone who has some food. He is like, hey,

1233
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:41,159
how are you doing? Go? I was always wondering. My

1234
01:02:41,239 --> 01:02:43,320
wife and I always join like, what happened to this?

1235
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,880
Because we had him since six months? So did he

1236
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,159
get traumatized in those first because with us he came

1237
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:51,440
to us. I mean when he first came to the house,

1238
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,079
he was under the stove. Yeah, he's snuck in, and

1239
01:02:54,119 --> 01:02:56,480
he would like he was terrified all the time. So

1240
01:02:56,519 --> 01:02:58,800
I was always wondering, like, did he is this a

1241
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,719
lot of Pat's life? Is it? Like? What is it? Well?

1242
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: I you know, I and my eyes tear. I just

1243
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,920
want to tell you because sometimes when you're in a

1244
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,960
high vibration like your space, you know, it does bring

1245
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,599
it does make me kind of weak because it's so

1246
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:16,000
beautiful here. So just to tell you, and so I

1247
01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:18,559
just want to say, look, your cat may have brought

1248
01:03:18,639 --> 01:03:23,519
in a past life, but honestly they are seeing spirit.

1249
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,400
But they're not afraid of the spirit. I feel in

1250
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,880
some way they've never been treated with the love that

1251
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,280
you and your wife are offering them or your family.

1252
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,119
It's almost like I'm afraid of I've never been in

1253
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:38,519
this situation before, but I do feel they brought in

1254
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,199
something from a past life. I do want to say.

1255
01:03:42,239 --> 01:03:45,440
Also the male energy that you're talking about, that could

1256
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,880
be the trauma thing. As your mention, it.

1257
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: Took along time. He's cool with women like women like

1258
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,719
even when women come over, he'll get scared for a minute,

1259
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:56,559
but then he'll relax. But if he hears a deep.

1260
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: Voice, and it could be that you and this cat

1261
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:03,039
had to pass life together. I don't know if you

1262
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:04,039
ever feel that, but.

1263
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: It's like sure, sure, that makes a lot of sense.

1264
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,440
But he has. But he's he's basically one of my daughters,

1265
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,719
this cat, Okay, Like that's his safe space. And she's

1266
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,280
the most energetic. He's the quietest and she's the most

1267
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,800
energetic of the house. So she's like, you know, kind

1268
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,639
of like playfully. Yeah, out of everyone in the house,

1269
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:24,280
you chose her.

1270
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's her protector, right, so he gets to be

1271
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:34,519
that masculine energy, right, So another masculine around the house

1272
01:04:34,639 --> 01:04:38,360
is a little bit he stay in your territory, Like

1273
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,199
what are you doing in my space? Right?

1274
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:45,159
Speaker 1: Interesting? So so and then how do you how do

1275
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:48,920
you communicate with animals on the other side? Yeah, that cross,

1276
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,119
like do you have a comp like is it obviously

1277
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:53,599
there's a translation. They're not wolf off obviously there's a

1278
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,400
whole other conversation going on.

1279
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,719
Speaker 2: Well, once again, they are a beautiful soul, and they'll

1280
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,159
communicate with me through sending me images in my clairvoyance.

1281
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,599
They'll I'll hear once again using my clear audience, or

1282
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:08,559
I'll get a feeling, and I want to tell you

1283
01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:11,440
the owners. You know, I just have to say, sometimes

1284
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,320
when we lose our animals, people are I mean, it's

1285
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,360
very traumatic to lose your best.

1286
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:19,039
Speaker 1: Friends, right, sometimes worse than the human it's.

1287
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: Very much so. So we have to really with any

1288
01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:24,960
reading I do, it's with integrity and respect for any individual.

1289
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,519
But animals are in some way a deeper connection. In

1290
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:34,400
some way, they serve their purpose, I will tell you.

1291
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,119
And it's no coincidence. However you get your animal, whether

1292
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:40,800
it's through they're astray that comes in front your front door,

1293
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,440
or it was given to you or you however it

1294
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,239
comes to you a shelter, they're supposed to be in

1295
01:05:46,239 --> 01:05:49,400
your life. They have picked you. Usually people have had

1296
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,719
past lives with their animals in other ways. I know

1297
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,800
that one of my animals, I was a war veteran

1298
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,119
and this animal was kind of in war with me.

1299
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:03,760
Because animals used to go to war, right, horses and dogs. Yeah, So,

1300
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,480
so how we communicate with animals who have passed is

1301
01:06:07,719 --> 01:06:10,519
you really have to step into their energy. You have

1302
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:13,440
to be very surrendering, right, you have to really surrender

1303
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,679
your energy, really offer them, invite them in or invite

1304
01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:20,639
them to connect with you. And then you just start

1305
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:23,199
off a little bit out of time and then sometimes

1306
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,760
their personality will grow. But it is kind of a

1307
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:29,920
telepathic I'll say, a telepathy way of connecting with them.

1308
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,320
And once again, they know their they know they're humans

1309
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,840
better than the humans know know themselves. They know people

1310
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,400
better than we we give them credit for.

1311
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty remarkable. Now, when you're doing this kind

1312
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,800
of work, show, how do you protect your own energy?

1313
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:51,280
Because this is everything we're talking about.

1314
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Speaker 3: Is a lot.

1315
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:52,239
Speaker 1: There's a lot.

1316
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,199
Speaker 2: There's a lot coming in, Yeah, a lot coming in.

1317
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: As my daughter's like, there's a lot here day, you're

1318
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,480
a lot. So how do you protect your own energy

1319
01:07:02,599 --> 01:07:06,079
from spirits, from all this kind of stuff?

1320
01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: And one thing I teach people is also how to

1321
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,599
how to show people how to strengthen their energy. So

1322
01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:19,760
when you talk about protecting myself, I feel that, look

1323
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:25,159
if I if I stay healthy and energetically fit or

1324
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:28,920
strong in my orc field, or if I practice, you know,

1325
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,400
being a good person in the world. If I you know,

1326
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,880
try to have a good outlook on life, if I

1327
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,519
try to eat well and live that balance life that

1328
01:07:37,719 --> 01:07:41,480
I pretty much am. And if I meditate, I'm pretty

1329
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:45,400
much holding a higher vibration. So I'm really as far

1330
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,320
as protection goes, I mean, naturally, I just pray every day,

1331
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,440
you know. It's these things are natural for me. So

1332
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,480
when I step into a reading, I'm always asking for

1333
01:07:54,519 --> 01:07:57,039
the highest good to come for someone. I guess that's

1334
01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:01,280
my form of connecting before I in my work is

1335
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,599
I say, look, let me just be of service. Let

1336
01:08:03,679 --> 01:08:05,679
me bring through the highest good for someone, for the

1337
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,440
highest good for what on their next step and their

1338
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,480
spiritual journey. And then for me personally, I have to

1339
01:08:12,519 --> 01:08:15,159
make sure after I finish working with someone that I

1340
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:18,239
take the time to show appreciation and gratitude for spirit

1341
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,840
but also for my physical body, my mental body, Like

1342
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,720
I have to really wet rest, you know, drink the

1343
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:29,119
water enough water, eat properly, really just kind of come down.

1344
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:31,680
We'll call it that. But it is about being gentle

1345
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,960
with yourself not judging anything, right, because when people start judging,

1346
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,920
they're kind of lowering the vibration. We'll just say that.

1347
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,960
But yeah, So for protection, it's about holding enough light

1348
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:50,640
through prayer, meditation, you know, looking for the light in others.

1349
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 1: Perhaps I wanted to ask you going back to the animals,

1350
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:55,560
do they evolve?

1351
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,079
Speaker 2: My God, they evolve, and that we're so lucky that

1352
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:01,119
they help us.

1353
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:04,399
Speaker 1: They but is that like kind of a like in

1354
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,680
other words, humans are here, animals are at a different wave,

1355
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,560
like not lower, higher, just different. Do they evolve to

1356
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,159
another higher level or do they just like that's the

1357
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:17,119
lane I picked, kind of like angels. Angels picked being

1358
01:09:17,159 --> 01:09:21,000
an angel, and they're not general going up and down.

1359
01:09:21,119 --> 01:09:24,239
Speaker 2: You know, animals evolve and they reincarnate and come back

1360
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:26,439
and see us again in another lifetime or is it

1361
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:30,640
another animals? So absolutely there's still lessons to learn or

1362
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,880
there's still things to do.

1363
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,359
Speaker 1: But do they evolve past the animal?

1364
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 2: I do believe. I believe they're still evolving to higher planes.

1365
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,159
I know they're filled with unconditional love, that's what they're

1366
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:43,800
But I still feel like they're I still feel like

1367
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,840
they're reaching, they're reaching on ways to love more we

1368
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:48,520
could call it that.

1369
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're pure love. Anyone who's ever owned an

1370
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,520
animal or not own but had an animal in their life,

1371
01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:57,960
they understand it's just pure love. Curiously, though, there are

1372
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,039
animals who are not pure love out there, just throwing

1373
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:04,560
that out there now, it could Now when it comes

1374
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,279
to domesticated animals, is you know if that could be

1375
01:10:07,279 --> 01:10:08,479
trauma or could be other things.

1376
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: Right, but a.

1377
01:10:09,359 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: Tiger or a bear or a polar bear not so cuddally.

1378
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:18,560
But that's just a natural instinct. So what's their energy like?

1379
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:19,920
Have you talked to a polar pin?

1380
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,359
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're making me wonder. I think i've I

1381
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:24,359
don't know if I have. I think horses may be

1382
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,279
horses and rabbits I think maybe more domesticated.

1383
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're more closer to humans.

1384
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,319
Speaker 2: So the wilder, the wilder the animals to a zoo

1385
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:34,760
and see you should I don't know about zoos. I

1386
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,760
don't know. I don't know if I can, but I

1387
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,720
do want to say, look, animals are.

1388
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

1389
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:49,560
and now back to the show.

1390
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Speaker 2: They're very accepting of us. I think it's us who

1391
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:58,319
kind of get into their territory, you know enough, I

1392
01:10:58,359 --> 01:11:01,720
mean the lovely Jane goodall right, So we have to

1393
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:09,079
honor her absolutely. So in that way, she invited them to,

1394
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,800
you know, go at their own pace, and in that

1395
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,239
way they were, you know, the strength of a mountain

1396
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,560
in the most gentle touch with her as well.

1397
01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I mean the gorilla's you know they

1398
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,359
in the monkey is Monkey's right, gorilla?

1399
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, gorilla's.

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01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:26,119
Speaker 1: Gorillas, monkeys, gorillas. Yeah, they they were gentle with her,

1401
01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:28,479
but her energy was I mean, if you ever hear

1402
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,199
her speak, you're just like.

1403
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 2: Isn't she lovely?

1404
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: Of course, she's like a warm apple.

1405
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: So it's it's our vibration that we have to tune

1406
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:39,479
in to match theirs.

1407
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,399
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, I saw I heard this story. It was

1408
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,960
great story. Josh Brolin, the actor joshin she was he

1409
01:11:46,039 --> 01:11:48,399
was this is when he was a kid, or not

1410
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,640
actually when he was a little older. But his mom

1411
01:11:52,359 --> 01:11:56,119
worked with animals and they had a wild in a zoo.

1412
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,760
They had this gorilla that would not he was like

1413
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,680
he'd heard he'd heard a zookeeper already, and they didn't

1414
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,720
know what to do, Like they didn't have a track

1415
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,840
with them. So they were really freaking out and they

1416
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,760
called his mom and the mom comes. She said, apparently

1417
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,720
she works with animals, right, and she shows up and

1418
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,840
she's like open the gate, like, man, man, we can't

1419
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:22,119
open the gate. Walked in like that and they like,

1420
01:12:23,239 --> 01:12:27,600
he's already hurt too, zookeeper, opened the gate. Now, they

1421
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,840
opened the gate. She walked in, it's a silver back

1422
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,880
starts doing like his thing to show his power, and

1423
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:39,279
she yelled at him like a child really, and he's like,

1424
01:12:39,399 --> 01:12:42,600
you stop it right now and get and Josh was like,

1425
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,560
I know that tone. If I were him, I'd calmed

1426
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,279
the hell down before something goes off.

1427
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that gorilla relaxed.

1428
01:12:50,359 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: And he walked right into his enclosure. And she went

1429
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,920
in and closed the door Bytom and everybody was just

1430
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,880
sitting there like animals. No.

1431
01:12:59,239 --> 01:13:01,079
Speaker 2: I mean, you think the animal could have gone the

1432
01:13:01,079 --> 01:13:03,359
other way, could have gotten angry at her.

1433
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,279
Speaker 1: With one, yeah, one little swing of that silver back

1434
01:13:08,399 --> 01:13:09,479
and she's done like.

1435
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 2: That crocodile Dundee thing where he does it with the dogs.

1436
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: The crocodile.

1437
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, it's so true. It's the you have

1438
01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:21,520
to tune into them. You have to tune into them,

1439
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,840
and because she hangs out with animals, especially wild animals,

1440
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,600
and probably you know, rescuing animals. Uh uh, you know,

1441
01:13:28,079 --> 01:13:31,119
you got to be on their their turf. You know.

1442
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,159
Speaker 1: Now, when you're doing a lot of these healings or

1443
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,600
psychic work, do you ever take on the pain?

1444
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1445
01:13:40,319 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: You know, like the pain, not just the story like, oh,

1446
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:48,279
your grandma died in abhorrible lot, not that actual.

1447
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: Yes, fortunately not. I have taken on enough to know.

1448
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,680
So spirit gives it to me with my permission, you know.

1449
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,039
I mean we if it's ever too much, I will

1450
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,520
say so thing. But they give the information if the

1451
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,680
person passes from the heart. For example, I feel that

1452
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,359
I feel the information in the heart. We'll call it

1453
01:14:08,399 --> 01:14:11,079
that it does feel pain or discomfort, and then more

1454
01:14:11,279 --> 01:14:13,600
and then I go deeper with that and I realized

1455
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,520
it was what condition it was around the heart that

1456
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,800
they passed. And then as soon as I mention it

1457
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,560
to my client and get the confirmation, it's being released.

1458
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,760
It's like you have the information or the pain long

1459
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,960
enough to notice it to deliver it, and then it

1460
01:14:28,079 --> 01:14:31,960
is released. But to leave a session with a client

1461
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:35,199
and take that pain home with me, For example, I

1462
01:14:35,279 --> 01:14:40,159
have not. And that is absolutely part of practicing, you know,

1463
01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:41,600
the ethics of what we do.

1464
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I always tell you, just because they have a.

1465
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:49,560
Speaker 2: Gift, yeah yeah, like.

1466
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,399
Speaker 1: In any like, in any any field, just because they're

1467
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,880
good at something or have a gift in something doesn't

1468
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:55,600
mean they're good people.

1469
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: I know, I know a really and they put and

1470
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,359
they I know my a friend of mine, right, she

1471
01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:05,800
got a reading from someone in it's small town. And

1472
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,039
you know a lot of people get steered the wrong

1473
01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:10,960
way for the money. Right, if you give me X

1474
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,479
amount of dollars, I'll get rid of something for you.

1475
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,960
What have you. There's a curse which I can't address.

1476
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:20,399
Speaker 1: I was going to ask about not only curses, but

1477
01:15:21,359 --> 01:15:26,000
dark energy and psychic attacks and these kind of things.

1478
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:28,399
I was raised. I'm Cuban, so I was raised in

1479
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:32,520
that world in the site like my family. The Cuban

1480
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,640
culture is very Afro Afrocuban, so a lot of not voodoo,

1481
01:15:37,159 --> 01:15:41,800
but there is something called Santa which is like black magic,

1482
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,319
dark magic, white magic. So like I have a cousin

1483
01:15:44,359 --> 01:15:47,279
who's where's white all the time. Okay, he's a white

1484
01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:49,199
priest and he thinks care of the white I'm not

1485
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:50,479
sure if he's still doing it, but he did it

1486
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,359
for a while to protect against curses. And they call

1487
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,640
it like anytime you're like you're going through stuff, you say, oh,

1488
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,479
I need a limp? Do they say on links, which

1489
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,279
means I need a cleaning. I got all this stuff,

1490
01:16:03,359 --> 01:16:05,720
there's stuff on it. You need someone to clean that

1491
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,399
off you? Is that? Like, what's your take on all

1492
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,319
of that because a lot of people Hollywood's obviously built

1493
01:16:13,359 --> 01:16:13,920
that whole thing up.

1494
01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:19,199
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, well so look, clearing your own energy.

1495
01:16:19,279 --> 01:16:23,520
So as a medium, I do clear my energy field

1496
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,159
before I work with someone, Right, Do I believe people

1497
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:32,760
can get psychic attacks and the karma and the karma

1498
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,159
or the dark light or whatever that is. I really

1499
01:16:36,199 --> 01:16:38,880
believe that it's like you said, it's maybe more a

1500
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,960
Hollywood or naysay, it's more of an older energy. I

1501
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,880
do believe a lot of people right now are of

1502
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,800
a higher consciousness. Just in general. I don't believe that

1503
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,199
energy is Once again, it's the fear that attracts people. Right,

1504
01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:54,920
They're like, oh my god, she's sending me I'm getting

1505
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,199
psychically attacked. It's like, no, you just need to know

1506
01:16:58,279 --> 01:17:01,760
that you are a powerful and that you are made

1507
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,479
of the light and that that won't even affect you

1508
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,319
or get near you. And because it's something in the

1509
01:17:07,399 --> 01:17:10,560
conscious brain, I think that it's more entertaining to get

1510
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:11,920
a psychic attack.

1511
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,159
Speaker 1: In some way makes you feel important.

1512
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes you feel like it's not you,

1513
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:17,119
And then you can give your power away, you know,

1514
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:18,760
because it's then you know like.

1515
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:22,520
Speaker 1: Someone else is doing this, someone else. Yes, yes, I need,

1516
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,960
I need, I need to go to you to get

1517
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:24,960
this personal.

1518
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: Right and then someone may take advantage of of that.

1519
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,760
So so but what we do is we have to

1520
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,399
show people their own light. We have to say, look,

1521
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,840
you have the power. You can manifest what you think

1522
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,560
feel and that can change, you know, that can change. Look,

1523
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,720
if you think unkindly of someone, or if you don't,

1524
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,119
if you wish people ill, will I mean, you're just

1525
01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:53,600
attracting that yourself. So wouldn't you want to wish good people? Well,

1526
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:58,840
wouldn't you want to be wanting to attract loving, giving

1527
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,319
people in your life? Then you must also be that example.

1528
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: Would it be kind of the equivalent of like a

1529
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,239
walking master who's on earth? Now, like let's say a

1530
01:18:08,279 --> 01:18:12,920
yogi of an advanced soul an, advanced Yogi or you know,

1531
01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:16,600
just yoga Nanda still walking around right now. Absolutely, let's

1532
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:21,119
say Yogananda's alive right now, there's no one who's going

1533
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:24,800
to be able to curse Yogananda or Jesus. They're not

1534
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,960
gonna be able to throw dark energy their way because

1535
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,800
there's so much light that they just that's not even

1536
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:30,159
a thing.

1537
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: It's not even in their orbit, it's not in their

1538
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:33,760
right if they.

1539
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: And if they believe, let's say, let's say I'm walking

1540
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,479
around the street and I believe that I can get

1541
01:18:39,079 --> 01:18:41,520
cursed or dark energy or anything like that, well, you're

1542
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,640
kind of doing it to yourself. You go looking for it,

1543
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,720
you go looking for it, and you're kind of doing yourself.

1544
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,560
But they have people have to understand that they have

1545
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,560
the power themselves to repel all of that. It's similar

1546
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,039
to and now this is what I love what I

1547
01:18:53,079 --> 01:18:55,800
do because I kind of see I connect the lines

1548
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,680
between all these different kind of guests. When near death

1549
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:03,920
experiencers who have had darker experiences, which is rare in

1550
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:08,279
your death experiences, but darker experiences from their own point

1551
01:19:08,319 --> 01:19:09,840
of view, they're like, oh, I needed to go through

1552
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,760
that because that's what I believed when I died. I

1553
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,600
was Catholic and I wasn't. I didn't feel good enough

1554
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,760
about myself, so I had to go through a hellish experience.

1555
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:20,039
But the moment in that hellish experience, they go, I

1556
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:24,279
need help, Can someone help me? Yeah? That all they

1557
01:19:24,359 --> 01:19:26,199
have to do is say that, and then a light

1558
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:32,479
shows and everything scatters. Jesus or an angel or Grandma

1559
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,039
or someone with light comes in and it just takes

1560
01:19:36,079 --> 01:19:37,520
them out. Would you agree? Right?

1561
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 2: Because we are so we go looking for the dark

1562
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,039
because we're interesting. It's entertaining, you know, it's entertaining for

1563
01:19:43,119 --> 01:19:46,640
some people. They like the drama of it, not knowing

1564
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,119
that they're their own creator, right, we're co creators of

1565
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:50,840
the universe.

1566
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:51,159
Speaker 1: Right.

1567
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 2: So but once they learned that, hey, I can attract

1568
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,439
better things, or maybe I don't want to attract problems

1569
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,600
my whole life, you know, or things that weigh me down,

1570
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,119
and I'm understand that I am my own power, that

1571
01:20:02,199 --> 01:20:05,199
I understand that I am the im presence, you know,

1572
01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:08,520
then we can really set forth to you know, looking

1573
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,319
for things that are really all about love, because it

1574
01:20:11,359 --> 01:20:14,560
is all about the vibration of love and attracting that.

1575
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,039
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

1576
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:23,920
And now back to the show.

1577
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:31,399
Speaker 1: When people pass is there something that you've in your

1578
01:20:31,399 --> 01:20:34,640
experience of doing I'm sure a few sessions over the years.

1579
01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:38,159
What is the main thing that the main message that

1580
01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:42,399
people who've passed on one say to the love once

1581
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,800
you're left behind? Is it love? Is it I'm sorry?

1582
01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:48,680
Is that I didn't know? What is the main message

1583
01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:51,560
that you feel that that comes in again and again again?

1584
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: You know, the main message is that I'm here, I

1585
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:01,279
still love you. You know, I'm supporting you, I'm watching I'm here.

1586
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,880
I made it. You know, because a lot of loved ones,

1587
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,560
people want to know, did they go to heaven? Are

1588
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,600
they okay? On the other side, do they know I'm

1589
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,960
still thinking about them? And yes, it's a resounding yes.

1590
01:21:12,119 --> 01:21:16,800
Every time loved ones do come in to apologize, but

1591
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,279
more so they're coming in to love you and to

1592
01:21:19,399 --> 01:21:22,680
support you. Especially the ones that you want to hear from.

1593
01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:25,279
They're the ones saying, look, I saw you know that

1594
01:21:25,319 --> 01:21:28,159
you made the sandwich last week, or I'm watching you

1595
01:21:28,199 --> 01:21:31,399
even the little mundane moments of your day, I know

1596
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,039
you're doing that. I see you, and I'm definitely there

1597
01:21:34,079 --> 01:21:36,600
for all those big events in your life, like I

1598
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:37,279
haven't missed it.

1599
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,399
Speaker 1: And did you ever hear just so people understand, did

1600
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,479
you ever hear someone from the other side going, oh,

1601
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,359
I hate it, or then I hate it now I

1602
01:21:47,359 --> 01:21:50,800
couldn't stand her, then I can't stand her. Now do

1603
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,319
you get crotchety souls that come through? Have you ever

1604
01:21:54,359 --> 01:21:55,439
had crotchety souls?

1605
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,039
Speaker 2: Well, but they've learned. Well, I'll tell you what I

1606
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,720
have to share that I had a person come by,

1607
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,279
because there are people we have to understand. These are people.

1608
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: A person came by, you mean the spirit.

1609
01:22:07,239 --> 01:22:10,119
Speaker 2: A spirit communicator I call the spirit came through with

1610
01:22:10,119 --> 01:22:12,880
me and a reading the other day and he told

1611
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,520
me and he was kind of the crotchety guy and

1612
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,439
he's like, I don't believe in any of this stuff,

1613
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,680
Like I don't believe in this. I'm over here. I've

1614
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,399
always lived by myself. I didn't want to have anything.

1615
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,520
I didn't want anything to didn't want to have anything

1616
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,439
to do with anyone, right, but I'm bringing through his niece.

1617
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:31,880
His niece is the one I'm working with. She is

1618
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:36,359
the client at the moment, and he comes through to

1619
01:22:36,399 --> 01:22:39,640
tell her, look, this is real. I made it look

1620
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:43,479
and he's still maybe a little crotchety, but that's his personality,

1621
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,960
just to show her that it's him, because she wouldn't

1622
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,520
have believed it. If I would have said, oh, he's

1623
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,560
all yeah, she would have, but I said, no, he's

1624
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,359
kind of crotchety and he has a lot of facial hair,

1625
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,359
and and he tells me he doesn't want to deal

1626
01:22:56,359 --> 01:22:57,840
with anyone, and that's him.

1627
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: That's him.

1628
01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: So do they learn? They learn patience, they learn awareness,

1629
01:23:03,119 --> 01:23:06,560
They learn that they have a choice. They learn that

1630
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,680
they can stay whatever they'd like to do in that

1631
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,000
world or whatever they like to do in the afterlife,

1632
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,600
or whenever they're ready, they can venture out or learn

1633
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:22,039
other lessons or go exploring or be curious, and that's

1634
01:23:22,079 --> 01:23:25,479
when that's when we evolve. But they're doing fine just

1635
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,800
where they are, And yeah, they have that personality.

1636
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: Though, do you find that we as humans are constantly

1637
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:38,199
throwing human peoplely stuff on the spirit world? Meaning like, okay,

1638
01:23:38,279 --> 01:23:41,079
uncle Bob past I wonder what his apartment is On

1639
01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:43,319
the other side is does he have a job. I

1640
01:23:43,319 --> 01:23:45,479
don't want to bother him because he's in his new life.

1641
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,920
Do you find that because that's we have to wrap

1642
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,079
our head around. Our brain is trying to understand it,

1643
01:23:51,399 --> 01:23:53,960
and the other side is such so infinite, and these

1644
01:23:54,039 --> 01:23:56,880
ideas of all lives are happening at the same time,

1645
01:23:57,039 --> 01:24:04,239
and all these very non live near nonspace and time world,

1646
01:24:04,279 --> 01:24:06,720
the three dimensional world, right, and we're throwing three dimensional

1647
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,359
world on something that's not three dimensional. Do you find

1648
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:10,239
that happens a lot?

1649
01:24:10,359 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people who have passed, for example,

1650
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,800
you know, still live in the same house like they

1651
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,319
It is through consciousness that they're existing. But if you

1652
01:24:20,399 --> 01:24:24,199
have a married couple and they loved their life and

1653
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:26,760
they woke up every morning having coffee and reading the

1654
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:31,479
newspaper together more enough, more times than enough, I'll bring

1655
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,079
that information through that. That's what they're still doing. On

1656
01:24:34,119 --> 01:24:37,760
the other side, they're still living together, sharing the coffee

1657
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,560
in the morning, reading the paper. But there are those

1658
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,199
other souls that are learning. They're helping us here on earth.

1659
01:24:44,319 --> 01:24:46,920
You know, they're helping us. They're helping children, they're helping

1660
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,399
people cross over sometimes people who pass from suicide. They

1661
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:56,159
help people who have crossed over once again how to

1662
01:24:56,359 --> 01:24:59,600
kind of adjust or how to maybe even help in

1663
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,760
some way, I connect with him while they're still living,

1664
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,720
to help them maybe support them.

1665
01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:07,119
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Now we're gonna go

1666
01:25:07,159 --> 01:25:10,399
into deep waters again. As it's fine, these are deeper waters.

1667
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,680
So if the soul is on the other side, and

1668
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,560
you just said, like, hey, they still read the paper

1669
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,720
and they still all that stuff, right, And I've heard

1670
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,680
stories of like, yeah, he's on the golf course, I

1671
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:23,800
mean like that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's it seems

1672
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,560
almost it seems very interesting because it's that's not them obviously,

1673
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,479
that's a part of their soul. There's an over soul

1674
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,720
and there's multiple live you know things, but there's that

1675
01:25:33,399 --> 01:25:37,479
version of him, that kind of sharred spark, that is

1676
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,640
the golfer who loves golf, you know, or you know,

1677
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,680
I'm sure Alfred Hitchcock is on a movie set ups

1678
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,479
there up there, right, or Stanley Coobrick is on a

1679
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,279
movie is that right there shooting stuff? But that's it's

1680
01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:50,000
hard for me to wrap my head around. Is it

1681
01:25:50,079 --> 01:25:52,560
kind of like what dreams may come exactly where you

1682
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,840
can create the universe of the world that you want,

1683
01:25:56,039 --> 01:25:59,359
but it's only an aspect of the true Oversaul. Yes,

1684
01:25:59,399 --> 01:26:00,439
we're getting into deeper water.

1685
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,119
Speaker 2: Is this yay? Yeah, Well, I'll just say that, so

1686
01:26:03,159 --> 01:26:05,880
when we cross over, we're not in a perfect situation.

1687
01:26:06,079 --> 01:26:08,000
Like when we cross over, yes, there is a we're

1688
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,920
in a higher consciousness. But if we had problems here

1689
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,720
on earth, they're not all solved at one in one breath. Okay,

1690
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:17,720
we're still working on those lessons. Like if you don't

1691
01:26:18,159 --> 01:26:20,119
if you don't get it all down here, it's going

1692
01:26:20,199 --> 01:26:23,880
to continue, right. Life is eternal. Our lessons move with us.

1693
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,039
So yes we are. I'll just say we're enjoying the

1694
01:26:28,079 --> 01:26:30,279
things we want to enjoy more when we're in spirit.

1695
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,600
Like if you liked eating a pizza, you can still

1696
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,560
eat a pizza in the spirit world. You have the

1697
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:39,319
experience of eating the pizza, and it could be the

1698
01:26:39,399 --> 01:26:43,560
memory or the texture that you're experiencing that. So perhaps

1699
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,119
the person playing golf, maybe they're not physically on the

1700
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:50,279
golf course, oh yeah, obviously, but they can create the

1701
01:26:50,399 --> 01:26:54,159
experience of loving the game. And that's why if you

1702
01:26:54,199 --> 01:26:57,239
didn't get along with someone that you loved, like if

1703
01:26:57,279 --> 01:26:59,520
you didn't get along with a relative or anyone here

1704
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:04,119
on earth, somehow in spirit with your still living and

1705
01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:07,119
your departed loved ones over there. You can still heal

1706
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:10,600
a relationship, you can still mend. You can even get

1707
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,760
to know them better because they're they're now in a

1708
01:27:14,079 --> 01:27:18,039
in a consciousness perhaps that you can maybe be more

1709
01:27:18,079 --> 01:27:23,800
open to connecting with. It's very healing, connecting and working,

1710
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,159
working as a medium. It's not just delivering information or connecting.

1711
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:33,439
It's healing. It's helping you understand that there's a there's

1712
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,279
a bridge, there's a once again a connection with you

1713
01:27:36,399 --> 01:27:39,600
and the spirit world. It's very healing. Doing readings as well.

1714
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:43,279
Speaker 1: Have you and all of your years heard of a

1715
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:44,920
soul that was in hell?

1716
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? Good here, that's about right right? Uh so

1717
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,479
I haven't heard of a hell. Good, but I have

1718
01:27:55,720 --> 01:28:04,399
heard of different levels right, holding level, yeah, different vibrations

1719
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,720
right so yeah, maybe not so much of a hell

1720
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,720
with the fire in the brimstone. But everyone is where

1721
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,960
they where they should be, or where they need to

1722
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,000
be in order for them to grow, you know. Yeah,

1723
01:28:18,079 --> 01:28:19,159
all a different planes.

1724
01:28:19,239 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm assuming an ascended Master is on a different plane

1725
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,159
than Hitler.

1726
01:28:24,399 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: Generally speaking, I would say so, and I could say

1727
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,399
they overlap, or they criss cross, or they go in

1728
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,079
and out, So it's not just one plane and that

1729
01:28:33,159 --> 01:28:36,920
sit forever. I think you overlap. You have opportunities to

1730
01:28:37,039 --> 01:28:40,239
move up. For example, you have choices that you get

1731
01:28:40,279 --> 01:28:42,640
to make. You can come back and or you can

1732
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,319
reincarnate if you would wish, Or you can go on

1733
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,319
somewhere else and other galaxies as they say, to evolve

1734
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,239
or other dimensions to maybe learn if that's what you

1735
01:28:53,239 --> 01:28:57,000
would like to do. But yeah, hell, I haven't met

1736
01:28:57,079 --> 01:29:02,039
anyone yet, but I have heard of people at lower vibrations.

1737
01:29:02,079 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: Well i've heard. I'm sure someone's yelling at the screen

1738
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,479
right now, like, well, why would you hear from someone

1739
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,600
in Hell? They're in hell. You can't talk to them.

1740
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,640
They're being punished. I don't. I don't know.

1741
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't. Yeah,

1742
01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:17,800
Hell is not so when you pass away like Hitler,

1743
01:29:18,079 --> 01:29:20,079
if we could just go there for a moment, it's

1744
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:25,079
not a punishment. It's it's almost a resonance. You know,

1745
01:29:25,239 --> 01:29:28,960
it's something that resonates with what your soul needs at

1746
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,439
that time, and it's not something that you know anyone

1747
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,479
else would be on, for example, because of all the

1748
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,239
things that happened. But it would be a place of

1749
01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:41,680
learning and growing. I mean, the opportunities of learning and

1750
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:42,399
growing are there?

1751
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,399
Speaker 1: Have you heard on the other side of a I've

1752
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,800
heard this from near death experiences. I've heard it also

1753
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,640
from psychic mediums. I wanted to hear from you. Is

1754
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:52,680
there like on the other side? Is there like these

1755
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,560
kind of set I hate to use the word center,

1756
01:29:57,039 --> 01:29:59,439
but if someone goes out of this life with a

1757
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,920
lot of tru there's a place for them to kind

1758
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,399
of decompressions chamber, if you will, that they can go

1759
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,960
in and kind of like it's okay because it's almost

1760
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,640
like PTSD right kind of thing, like if it was

1761
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,680
tragic or you had a lot of trauma, or you

1762
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,720
had a lot of abuse or something like that, that

1763
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,079
you would have to go in there to kind of

1764
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:18,640
because you're coming in with that.

1765
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

1766
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:27,840
and now back to the show.

1767
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, or a major, A major, A quick an abrupt

1768
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:39,039
passing that was a tragic, Yeah, anything like that. So honestly,

1769
01:30:39,159 --> 01:30:41,279
I think there is a place. I don't know if

1770
01:30:41,319 --> 01:30:43,680
it's how I would describe it. I feel like, but

1771
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,880
it's very close, like when I feel someone passes from

1772
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:52,000
a traumatic occurrence. I do feel there is help on

1773
01:30:52,039 --> 01:30:56,640
the other side for them, specifically for that meaning help

1774
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,600
them rest, we'll call it, or as you mentioned, like

1775
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,680
recuperate or or a place to go for healing first

1776
01:31:05,239 --> 01:31:11,159
before it said that the pop before, the before the

1777
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:14,880
life review or whatever that may happen next. But I

1778
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,520
do believe it happens. I mean, I think in some

1779
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,760
way you and I we think of it being a

1780
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,439
physical place, but I do feel it's more of an

1781
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,560
awareness happening. As you mentioned, they're asking for help and

1782
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,840
or there other could be other people on the other

1783
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,840
side helping to support that.

1784
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, interesting have you? I always I say, Jesus

1785
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:38,319
is the hardest working man.

1786
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 2: I knew you were going to go there next.

1787
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: I always say he's when you're psychic, you should I

1788
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,960
don't know why. He just popped into my head, and

1789
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,000
it's like, but Jesus, I always hear Jesus the hardest

1790
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,359
working man in show business. Yeah, and that's from the

1791
01:31:52,399 --> 01:31:56,920
Western standpoint, because I'm assuming that the Asian standpoint, Boodh

1792
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,199
is the hardest working man in show business. Agree are

1793
01:31:59,359 --> 01:32:02,319
arguably you know, and in the Muslim world, Muhammed is.

1794
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,479
So I imagine that they show up where they need to

1795
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,920
show up. In India, it's Krishna, you know, kind of

1796
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,880
thing though occasionally, you know, you see an Indian, an

1797
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,640
Indian person has Jesus show up and Krishna shows up

1798
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:20,960
for a westerner. What is your experience with those masters?

1799
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,960
Those I'm so glad those these masters that you know,

1800
01:32:24,039 --> 01:32:26,199
do they come in, do they talk? It's like if

1801
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:28,279
I'm having a session with you and Grandma and Grandpa

1802
01:32:28,359 --> 01:32:30,960
there and we're talking about Grandma, like where is the

1803
01:32:31,039 --> 01:32:33,920
key to the vault? I need to get like that

1804
01:32:34,039 --> 01:32:36,920
kind of conversation, and then all of a sudden, Yes,

1805
01:32:37,159 --> 01:32:39,920
what shows up? Lisa shows up? Right, whatever you like

1806
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,479
to call him, he shows up. He's like, I got

1807
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,239
you know, has it happened?

1808
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:49,199
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Like we felt Yoga Nanda earlier. I do feel

1809
01:32:49,279 --> 01:32:52,800
Jesus's guides for people a lot, or even the Buddha

1810
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,640
is guides a lot of people. It's got my guide.

1811
01:32:56,039 --> 01:33:00,159
I had an experience, if I may, with Jesus. So

1812
01:33:00,199 --> 01:33:03,199
I was meditating and Jesus came to me three days

1813
01:33:03,239 --> 01:33:06,680
in a row. Interesting and the first day he said

1814
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,319
surrender right, and he only give like one word answers right,

1815
01:33:10,359 --> 01:33:11,319
but it means so much.

1816
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 1: And he's very busy, he's jumping consultant all up. He

1817
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:14,760
doesn't have time to chit chat.

1818
01:33:16,079 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 2: Well. Once again, it's like it's like I could see

1819
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,880
right into his eyes and he saw right through me

1820
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,119
in this meditation. I mean, I gotta tell you, it's

1821
01:33:23,279 --> 01:33:27,239
incredible when people tell me they've had a Jesus moment.

1822
01:33:27,239 --> 01:33:29,359
It's like, I understand what you mean, though, oh I do,

1823
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,600
I get it. He came to me the second day

1824
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,039
and said, forgive, you know, like practice forgiveness, and that

1825
01:33:35,399 --> 01:33:37,159
you know you just the water works happened.

1826
01:33:37,359 --> 01:33:41,039
Speaker 1: Just basic, basic, simple, basic card truths.

1827
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 2: Which I tell everyone will deepen your intuition, Like I mean,

1828
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,960
forgiveness has to be the number one key to open

1829
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:52,319
your intuition. And then the example he gave me for

1830
01:33:52,319 --> 01:33:56,319
forgiveness was like a labyrinth. So I was shown to

1831
01:33:56,399 --> 01:33:59,800
walk this labyrinth in my mind's eye, and you practice

1832
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,199
for giveness. So on the outer rims of the circle,

1833
01:34:02,279 --> 01:34:05,079
you're practicing forgiveness for the little things in life, the

1834
01:34:05,119 --> 01:34:08,079
small stuff, And as you move closer to the center

1835
01:34:08,119 --> 01:34:10,720
of the labyrinth, the bigger things come up. That we

1836
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:14,079
need to forgive. And then finally, when you reach the center,

1837
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,479
you understand that you're forgiving yourself.

1838
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: Right.

1839
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 2: So that was a very powerful experience. And then the

1840
01:34:20,119 --> 01:34:24,079
third day, Jesus came to me and said, you've told

1841
01:34:24,119 --> 01:34:26,239
me how much you love me, let me show you

1842
01:34:26,279 --> 01:34:29,680
how much I love you. Once again, the water works happened.

1843
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,960
I was taken up to a level or a plane.

1844
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:38,039
Thank you of instant manifestation. You know, whatever I thought

1845
01:34:38,199 --> 01:34:41,279
was would happen at that moment, and I spent the

1846
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,760
entire day or however many days with things would happen

1847
01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:47,399
as soon as you think it, whether the phone not

1848
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:52,279
just the phone ringing, but having certain experiences happened that

1849
01:34:52,319 --> 01:34:54,920
I wanted to, whether it was a healing, whether it

1850
01:34:55,119 --> 01:34:58,800
was maybe healing a relationship with someone that would happen.

1851
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:04,279
Maybe it was manifesting something that happened as well. So

1852
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:08,640
once again I think we do reach levels of it

1853
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,720
being more. I guess people are more open to it,

1854
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,920
you know, open when you raise those levels. So then

1855
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,279
for me as a medium, I am also welcoming your

1856
01:35:17,279 --> 01:35:20,199
guides and angels. I'm sure you are connected to the Buddha,

1857
01:35:20,359 --> 01:35:23,279
you know, and to Krishna and to Jesus. I feel

1858
01:35:23,279 --> 01:35:25,399
like in some way you've walked with Jesus and you've

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had dreams.

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Speaker 1: Talking about me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've all dreams walking with Jesus before. But anyway,

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as a medium, they do come through in readings and

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people can identify them. Also, Mother Mary comes through.

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Speaker 1: Or Magdalene, Mother Mary kwan yin all lovely.

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Speaker 2: So when it is that divinity that is really able

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to reach people because they're open to it, and that's

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the consciousness that we're.

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Speaker 1: Opening up to, that's what all of us are starting

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to open up to, all of us mostly. So is

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that why we're starting to like the concept of ascended masters,

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which is a philosophy idea that I think in the

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early late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, that concept that

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the ascended master was first introduced and it's been kind

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of people are running wild with it now, this ascended

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master's thing and these ideas, Like now people are talking

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about Mother Mary not only as the mother of Jesus,

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but like in her own right a master Mary Magdalene

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in her own right a master. The feminine energy is

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coming out so fine. Female, the divine female energy is

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starting to rise in a much deeper way than before.

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Speaker 2: It's the age of the times, right, removing, as they say,

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from one age into another age. And the divine feminine,

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which is very creative, very creative, very powerful, very compassionate,

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is opening up. And that may be why more men

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are intuitive also, you know, because a lot of times

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back in the day will say, you know, it was

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more women were psychic, or now much more men, even

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men and families like I mentioned my brothers very intuitive

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in my household. You're very intuitive and pathic for just

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being in this work anyone being called. But the divine

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feminine is the creator, right, we're creating, right, We're not

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so much driving the boat like the masculine energy was

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that's leaving our planet. The divine feminine is listening more, right,

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We're understanding more. We're we're willing to work together. How's that?

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You know? We're willing to collaborate.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the masculine energy might have been needed

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at a certain time in humanity to drive to get

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things going, to get things going, because that's the energy

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of the masculine. But the divine, now, the vine feminine

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is kind of okay. We're good now, yep. We're off

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and running.

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Speaker 2: Now you can take a rest, take a rest, and

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now we can let's take the.

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Speaker 1: Lead a little bit and we'll work together. But it's

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but it's because before it was.

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Speaker 2: All masculine, much so much more masculine.

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Speaker 1: I mean all I mean, I mean the colisseum Let's.

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It's just all masculine all the time. And you could

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have seen within the last in my lifetime. I mean,

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it wasn't it like in the forties or the fifties,

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women couldn't even have a credit card without our husband,

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I know, I mean it was my mother.

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Speaker 2: My mother couldn't have a credit card. She was once

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she finally was able to. But yeah, back in the day,

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the mortgage on a house, like women couldn't buy a

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home without a big co signer, just like a credit

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card you mentioned, without the father, the father or.

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Speaker 1: The husband, right, it was. It's but see, so much

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has changed. And for me, I've always been around women

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all my life. So I've raised by women grandmother, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the strength and the like they had to.

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Speaker 1: Latina and Latina women no nontheless. So it's like all

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the level of spice I've been around. So I've been

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around women most of my life. I always joked that

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like I have no testosterone in my even my cat's

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balls are cut off. So and on that. No, Cheryl,

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that's a good place to finish this conference, Cheryl. Where

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can people find out more about it?

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Speaker 2: So, so my website is Mediumsheryl dot com. I'm always

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on social media at medium, Cheryl h I love everything

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that I'm doing with my healing prayer circle, my energy

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transformation sessions, my private readings, but really my website, they

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can find out all my events happening.

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Speaker 1: If the spirit will give humanity one message right now,

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will it be what do we need to hear right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I would say like open the divine with n

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you know, is to kind of understand that we all

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have that spark or that divine within us, and if

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we can find that, we can really answer a lot

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of our own questions or we can solve maybe a

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lot of our own problems.

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Speaker 1: Cheryl has been such a pleasure talking to you. Thank you.

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It was so beautiful talking to you. I love your energy,

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I love what you're doing in the world, and I

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appreciate you and everything you do in Awakenness Planet.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you for being so

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gracious and opening up this amazing venue in the studio.

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I mean, you really are doing the work of Yogananda

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of the Light. I love that which is and allowing

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this platform to happen because it's really raising that vibration

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which is really bringing healing to a lot of people.

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So thank you, I appreciate you, and thank you again.

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Speaker 1: I'm mistay, thank you for spending this sacred time with

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us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further,

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