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Speaker 1: Hell, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the October eighth

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edition of Tras Told You twenty twenty five. I guess

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should dive the year twenty twenty five. Here we are

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almost over. We're getting near the end of it. But

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I am your host, Tras Snail. Very messy here right now,

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late shower day. My hair part has to be different

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because the way it's part of being all over the place.

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Don't have any time, you get producted. But you know,

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chis is life right. Luckily, that's the only problem I

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got going. Today works good, Life's good. Next week, you know,

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canain Thanksgivings coming up, spend some time off there, so

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that's good. So I hope everyone is doing well. And yeah,

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it's October. It's been fun. We got some couple of

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questions there on today about Halloween, creepy stuff and everything,

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and I enjoy that. Keep them coming. This is the

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month of October, Hellen, my favorite month the year. Anything

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Halloween related or related. I know we'll do an actual

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episode on yeek first that's like a Halloween episode. But

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anything that is that I can never get enough of.

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So I appreciate that, and I appreciate all you that

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listened to, whether you watch live or listen to the reenplay,

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I thank you very much. And yeah, we got a

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bunch of random stuff to talk today. So that's where

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it's gonna be fun. We're talking about Heat two, We're

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talking about Ocean's fourteen, we're gonna talk about that final,

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that fast and furious stuff going on, Dexter Resurrection season

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two renewed. And then I said some good Halloween questions.

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So yeah, that's what we'll be doing today, just a

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fun little one here. Who knows this low one. I'll

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have some rant about something or there'll be a question

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who knows. But yeah, we're gonna go to this for

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about an hour. If you would like to send a question,

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either you gotta be a patron or you can send

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a super touch just because only an hour to do this.

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So then the rest of the week, we got the

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gen V review that's happening tonight, which will also release tomorrow,

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and then the Peacemaker finale. Tron are so lots of fun.

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That's a fun three days coming up right now. So

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and all's doing the feeds side quest we just reviewed,

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which people are very much enjoying. Big thank you to

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all the Patreons. We just reviewed The Shining, which will

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be on the feeds in a couple of weeks, but

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obviously if you are Patreon you get that nice and early,

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so we appreciate all you that to have liked and

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listened to it. And yeah, that's one that we had

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another cast Court, which also we brought back comic book

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versions and all our Predator bad lands. We reviewed Predator

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versus Wolverine, Black Panther, and Spider Man. That's what I think.

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It's like twelve issues all together, so read those of

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your fan. There are tons of fun, min I suppose

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my thoughts, tons of fun. We had some good discussions

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about just Cannon and what if and some stuff relaying

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to the Predator. But those are two episodes on Patreon

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early right now. And yeah, the Shining, I could have

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I keep going and going and going, but you know,

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I digress. Very fun time. And yeah, last thing I'll

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promote as usual November eighth, Extra Life our charity stream

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twenty four hours for BC Children's Hospital. We're trying to

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appreciate it that it's gonna be a fun time. The

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let's see why should I start off with Let's let's

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talk about Heat. You know, so this is a movie

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never I've never read it. I've heard mixed things. I

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talked out to Clay told me it was great. There's

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someone else I know that told me was great. But

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then I've heard of it. It's okay. So I've never

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gone around to rushing to it. And I think there

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was part of me that when they've talked about, oh,

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the movie first. I might watch the movie first and

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then go to the book. But if it's Michael Man,

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I think that's gonna carry over. And Heat itself was

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report that so Warnbros. Had the right they put them

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up for sale because they just couldn't come to agreement

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and they were gonna give Man the budget, but they

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supposedly wanted Heat three as well. So I guess that

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just shows where we are. And we'll talk about all

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these other sequels and whatnot in this episode, but that's

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where we are in Hollywood and whatnot, where it's like, well,

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we need a guaranteed franchise, and even the idea of

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Heat two is already like, well what are we doing here? Right?

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like the comedies, the comedies they they are. That's a

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more risky because we've seen Zoolanda, we've seen Anchorman. There's

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it's kind of him on the run. Now what I've

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read from the synopsis, it seems like it happens right

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after the fact of the movie where he escapes and

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then he's on the run. Right. I don't think they'll

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we'll give you the budget about we want Heat two

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and three, and it sounds like other things they just

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couldn't agree on. They put them up to sale rights,

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the company, but that also Amazon bought the rights for

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Heat too. They're gonna be making that. They have not

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it would be. I'd be very disappointed. If not. That's

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still movie I've never seen in the theaters. I would

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Warner Brothers should get the money and you know easily, Hey,

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to he Row he's gonna direct it great. And then

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a while, that's been talked about and it sounds like

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his hair, he looks like he could be a young Denaro, right,

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what de Naro because how old is driver now? So

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Adam driver, he's like forty something, I'm gonna say he's

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like forty six. He's wary one. Okay, so he's forty one.

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even I guess technically ten years is younger. Right. So

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look like to narrow, but that that's fine me not

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being a one to one, I think that's a better

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Irishman with the dh stuff, right, that didn't exactly work.

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one of the greatest scenes of all time, the heist

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in the third act for Heat. If that were to

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happen and you have an older gentleman who can't run around,

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it's not really gonna work, you know, It's it's gonna

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something's going to feel off, So I think for myself

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that it's best to go with the young actors. So

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he's being to narrow. I'm butler. It seems like he's

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gonna be a young Kilmer, which is pretty perfect casting.

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just kind of status and careers where they are as

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just think energy to that matches. But then we had

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can't remember it was before one bat after another came out,

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because it was like, what's he doing next? Right, because

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it was He's doing Evil can Eevil Chazelle And that

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doesn't sound like it's happening at all, because that movie's

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not happening at all at all. Like it's not because

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him and Adrian Brody, right, Yeah, And then it sounds

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like now a Damian Chazelle is doing a prison drama

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with killing Murphy Daniel, Greg Craig and somebody else. I

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think it's an actress. That's good, So that's cool. I'm

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excited for that. But sounds like he's off that. And

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think that would help it tremendously, especially without Tarantino there.

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horror thriller with Jennifer Lawrence. But it sounds like this

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maybe's not next, but one maybe after this course ses

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who's he playing, because then it was like is he

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playing young Neil? Which is the narrow character? Right? There's

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also I think a villain, like a big bad that's

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in the past, because the two things are it's Kilmer

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on the run, and then it's I imagine him reflecting

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because Pacino's character is still after my I guess in

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the book, and then those characters reflected the past. It's

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Pacino's early days of being a cop, I imagine, and

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then Chris's early days of meaning Denara on the other crew. Right,

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flashbacks is told there's like another type of villain or

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big bath. Some sorts of people thought that would be Leo,

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that could be Cooper, even though I think Cooper can

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bring the energy and that's the room right now that

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Leo is playing Kilmer's character. They've not said anything about

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Denara or Driver and Butler. I think it's a lot

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of us just assuming our things we've heard before. To me,

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that makes where if Leo's playing the modern day, because

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obviously Kilmer's not around, and unfortunately, if Kilmer was around,

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he couldn't have done it right he with his voice

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and everything. I guess you could have done it in

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a very different sort away, and you could have you

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could have had that character not talk as much. But again,

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you gotta make some changes for the movie. But if

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he has a lot of dialogue, that'd be very tough

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to do, right And Leo, to me, I think it's

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a good comparison for like, Okay, if it's Chris's character

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later on, I can see him playing that and stepping

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into those shoes and doing well. Leo's won the best

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of all time, right, So no whorry there for I

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was a little worried at points when it looked like

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which we still had confirmed, but atas I had not

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read the book, I wasn't sure how much Chris is

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a like a current day Chris val Kilmer was in it.

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playing like a young val Kilmer was like, oh no,

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like you can't. Leo's older than Valas and he and

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he's playing the young version. But it sounds like he's

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playing a version that, like I said, it picks up

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right after. But I don't think they'll do that. I

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think they'll have it years later in a sense, or

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maybe there's some kind of a slight daging there or makeup.

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that's the one where is he this bad guy? And

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then also could he be Paccino? Paccino's the tough one.

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And that's where comes down to the actual topic here

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of like is this a good idea? I really don't

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know for the book. I've just heard mixed things, so

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that's tough for me to say. Like, if everyone like

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raised about the book, I would say, Okay, do it.

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But I've heard mix things about book, so I'm not

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completely on board there. Man, it has been a minute

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since and I mean man and m A N n

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as in Michael Mann. It's been a minute since he's

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directed something to me. That's been really great because Clay

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was asked me yesterday my thoughts on Ferrari, which I

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watched about half an hour last year and I just

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didn't get into didn't dislike it, thought it was still

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like good enough, but I just I watched some of

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it and never went back to right. And I love

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Adam Driver, so I shouldn't give it another chance. But like,

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what has he done to that last little bit black

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hat which wasn't gray ast Let's see it is tv

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TV public enemies. I like a lot more than other people.

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I do think it didn't live up to the potential

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of you had Bail at the height of his powers,

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you had depth that's pretty close to there. Mary Cultiard,

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I think it's a very good movie, but it should

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have it had the bones to be a great movie.

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Miami Vice. The update one I have not seen since

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I was a wee lad, so I can't give a

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coming from that. Collateral to me, I honestly, he is

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his best movie. But Collateral is Man That's Cruise's best performance.

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I love Collateral. I will die at the stake for

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Collateral being a fantastic movie. And then yeah, Heat inside

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the last weekends. After that, it's like kind of like Collateral.

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On Ali he is a bunch of like Man Hunter,

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he is a bunch of great, great stuff going on, right,

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So obviously it's so i'd say, like even public enemies,

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Let's say, if I were to say that's very good

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at times, that's oh nine, that's still god what almost

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twenty years right by the time this movie comes out,

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almostwing years since there's been something that's been like great. Awestly, though,

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he doesn't like direct a bunch of stuff right. Two

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of the other things in there were TV shows, so

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it's not like a like an Eastwood or a Scorse

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who's directing all the time. It's just like the last

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few things haven't been the great or even in the

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Scott right where it's like he's a better fifty to

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fifty where because he directs so much. Some that' stufssary map,

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but some of the stuff is great, so you got

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a better idea. So my man, we don't really know

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what we're gonna get here, but I'm it's gonna be tough,

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I think, to tackle because you can make the case that, oh,

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this is the perfect guy to do it. But at

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the same time, is it maybe the era and even

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some of the because that movie, even though they're like fifties,

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like they're in their fifties and forties, it has a

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youth at times, fuck the man type of vibe, and

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it's like, does Michael Man still have that gear? And

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he might, right, he might. It hasn't been something for

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a while since he's directed. That's kind of like this, like,

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of course it comes out not that good. It's not

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going to affect my love That first one, that to

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me is one of the greatest movies ever made. I

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don't know, I it's top tenor but it could be

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up there. It is fantastic. Yeah, we just watched it

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earlier this year, Emily. I made her watch for the

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first time. She actually enjoyed it. And that's a movie

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like The Shine we talked about in the review, Like

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I could watch Heat right away the second it's over,

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even though it's an almost three hour movie, doesn't matter.

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I could watch it instantly and it just it just

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it just rips in so good performances everything. And that's

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the thing where drivers to narrow. I can buy Butler

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and Leo as you know Kilmer, I can buy Cooper

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as Pacino, I can kind of buy I think I've

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seen some people be like, oh really, but it's like

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think about even the last one, like my show, when

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he gets like really worked up, like I'm writing at it,

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like he has those isms he could do. Pacino is

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the toughest one, especially that era of Pacino or early Pacino,

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not as much because I feel like he was there's

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a certain style that Pacino doesn't think people say like

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I can't remember what the breaking point is. There's kind

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of like it's almost like a singer like when Steven

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Tyler changed his voice. There's a certain time where Pacino

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just changes his perform They're still great, but he's always

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a bit more bombastic, where I think in his early

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years was a bit more quiet. Right, Like you look

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at Pacino and Godfather versus Pacino in Heat, two very

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different guys, but I think Heat still has that he

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and he might have been in Heat has the perfect

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amount of that solemn great best actor, you know, type

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of godfather vibe. And then it's the scarface devil advocate,

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really loud a mask, you know, like it's the perfect alglamation.

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Very tough to do that. That to me, like Paccino

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is very much like a Nick Cage or someone where

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it's just denaro I can see. Butchino, that's a very

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tough nut to crack. And if Cooper is doing that,

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that's like good on him. I wish him the best

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of luck and I hope he can do it. But

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that's uh yeah, that that that to me is a

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that's a hard mountain to climb. And even that too,

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if Hannah, who is Pachina's character, is in the book,

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I hope he is back, so I will be there.

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I'll see this, I'll have all the hope. I hope

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it's not on Amazon. I just there is something where

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it is semi risky, right because like, to me, Heat

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is in the sense of I'm sure there's some connuity

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or this that, but a perfect movie and not that

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you have to make a perfect movie to be a

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good Fall, but it can still be lesser than Like

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I'm somebody that constantly defends the Dark Knight Rises, but

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I just think it's there's so much kind of space

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in between it. And it's not like a remake in

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a sense that, oh, we're gonna use the book like

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we're gonna remake Heat and then make Heat to the book.

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It is gonna be a sequel, So it's yeah, I

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don't I don't know. I'm curious to see how it goes,

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and I hope that it can live up story wise

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and the action scenes wise, like some of those moments,

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the sound design, how loud it is, like it's a

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it's a tough one. It's luckily I guess I'm not

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gonna have the same hype. I'm gonna go in with

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being cautious about it. And again he too, you know,

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if it and that's the other thing too, how is

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it gonna do? Right? Because what did the first Heat do? Heat?

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Cause I think it was like a hit, but it

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became more of a bigger hit as time went on.

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So me at a bunch of sixty million and seven,

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so you know five that's a hit, and then overall

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time it's definitely come like I wouldn't even say a

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cult thing, just like a just a inspiration for filmmakers

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and whatnot. Right, So we'll see. I'm I'm cautious of it,

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but I wish them. I wish them the best a

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lot here and I just I think it's just catching

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lightning in a bottle. Don't know if they're gonna be

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doing speaking of a lightning in a bottle. Ocean's fourteen,

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so they've talked about this if I can get the

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actual quote here. But because George Clooney is promoting that

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Netflix movie, I think it's j Kelly right, that's the

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one with Adam Sandler's an old bomb back movie and everything.

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So I hate that with the first time I searched

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on ex George Clooney, like the third one down is

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like George Clooney like AI, So I don't know what

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they're doing or what's happening. But George Clean reveals that

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Ocean's fourteen is moving forward and there's plans to begin

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filming next year. So obviously there's I got three questions here.

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The biggest one to me is what's going on soda Burg.

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Soda Berg directed all three of those. Obviously he retired,

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but then he came back. He said, like a pretty

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good run. He's somebody like, uh like really Scott where

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he's been working consistently since he came back. But let's

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see Steven Soberk and he like, I feel like there's

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a right amount of time. I guess just what, I

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guess I'll ask all these questions to get them all

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in here, and says I'm still witting on that. Dan Margot,

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Robbie and Goss like Ocean's prequel. I think that's dead

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if this happens, unless they do something where they have

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a scene of those parents and they have them in there,

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I just uh, where they're Danny's is the theory? Is

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that the theory? Or I thought that was just legitimately

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the plot. Maybe it's something where people have read the

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script and it's out there, but they haven't officially said,

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but I think that is what it is, that they're

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the parents. I don't think they can coexist. It's kind

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of the same way as as Margot Robbie Pirates movie.

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It's like, I think you just got they everybody. We

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need to just finally decide here if you're doing a

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Pirates movie, is debt back or not? Right? Because debt

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being back changes so much. But if this movie happens,

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which I think it's going to, I think that one's

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gonna be dead. And I can kind of get that.

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This is Ocean's nine, right was it? What the hell

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was it? Or is just Ocean's ten? It's Ocean's eight.

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I don't know why did they call it Ocean's eight?

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So what they could do three? So they go nine, ten,

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and then you eleven twelfth. I guess that's what they're

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hoping for. But I thought it did relatively well, the

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all female one. Let's see here, Yeah, seventy million budget

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and then box office of two ninety seven, so almost

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three hundred million. That's that's really good. Dakota Fannings in

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this movie, Why do I not remember that at all?

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Is this true? That can't be true? It is Dakota

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Fanning in Ocean's eight. Oh my god, she is for

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like a scene, okay, just like a scene or something. Okay,

469
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,039
But so I guess I'll put this all together if

470
00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:52,880
Soda burned back because it's the male version, right, is

471
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,440
it still the male version? Because we had Julie Roberts

472
00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:57,440
in the first one, well the first two, we had

473
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,160
Catherine Za Jones in there, and they kind of were

474
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,799
part of the in a bit, right, And then also,

475
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,440
what is the because obviously a couple of actors have

476
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,920
passed not with us, they have to add more people, right,

477
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,759
and that's like, who are those crop of people? I'm

478
00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:14,119
not gonna do that because that cast could go on forever,

479
00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:18,079
but I would like them to try and find I

480
00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:20,200
think it'd be tough, but they should try to, Like,

481
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,079
I would love it if the fourteen is you have,

482
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,359
you need the three right, you need Damon Pitt and

483
00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:29,119
Clooney to me, because all like even Cheetle now is

484
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,240
a bit more expensive now right, like here, let me

485
00:22:31,279 --> 00:22:33,599
pull up the original eleven because obviously we don't have

486
00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:36,759
Bernie Mack anymore, which is unfortunate, right because he was

487
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:40,200
a great part of that series. Let's see director fifty

488
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,920
four things, so to burg look at that, which you'll

489
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,400
get back into a second. Holy shit, he's just got

490
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:50,240
so much stuff here. It's not like easy to find

491
00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:52,720
kay Ocean's eleven, great poster, by way, I love the

492
00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:58,240
color scheme. Let's see everybody. Uh of course, i'mb's not

493
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,680
gonna just fucking give me a great It's gonna give

494
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,119
me like a who played the board member number two?

495
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,599
So I guess that's a good experiment of here go,

496
00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:08,559
thank you for the poster. Or Ocean's thirteen. I guess

497
00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:12,039
you could get Garcia back, right, so what you have?

498
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,039
That's the thing. I think you need most of them back,

499
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,839
but you do need the three. If they are making

500
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240
this movie without the three of them, to me, it's

501
00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:24,799
a unless it's a reboot, right, If they're say, I

502
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:26,640
guess there's I guess a few ways you could do

503
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,759
it if it's a reboot, which is not. But or

504
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,960
it's just Danny, it's just George Clooney and the entire

505
00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:35,599
cruise new I could see that. I don't think that's

506
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,680
what people are necessarily wanting. I think they would want

507
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,440
to be out for all of them, right, George, Brad

508
00:23:43,519 --> 00:23:47,200
Damien just Damon Damon and Cheatle. I feel like those

509
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,480
ones you have to obviously got, like Scott con which

510
00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:53,720
is you know fine, you got? Which is it Casey Affleck? Right,

511
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,839
it is Casey Affleck, which I don't know, it depends,

512
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,759
but I think he's fine. I guess if you're here Becau.

513
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:04,519
Obviously he's had some issues past couple of years, but

514
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:07,240
I guess if he's an Oppenheimer, he's probably deemed as safe.

515
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,039
And you know that's somebody I would That's my been

516
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,440
my pitch for a while when they talk about villains,

517
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,039
because the first one had Andy Rcilla, and then you

518
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,160
had I can't remember the guy of Vincent Cassell and

519
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,640
other people of Vincent Cassel, and then you had al Pacino.

520
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,000
I really the fact that they're working together production company.

521
00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:28,680
Get them involved. I would really like Affleck to be

522
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,359
in this movie. I'd particularly love him to be the villain.

523
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,480
I think that'd be great. But what I would pitch is,

524
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,519
you get a crop of the old crew. He had

525
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,920
a crop of the eight crew, so Sandra Bowle at

526
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,119
Cate Blanche like even right there, like obviously this is

527
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,279
like old Hollywood speaking went up, But like, think about

528
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:49,240
that movie, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damion, Julia Roberts,

529
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,680
Catherine zied To Jones, Sandra boll At, Kate Planchette, Helm

530
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,400
Bott Carter, Like just even putting in That's what I'd

531
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,079
hope they did at some point, even putting the two

532
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,799
Oceans cast together, that's a st cat. You don't need

533
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,000
everybody back. You maybe don't need Rihanna back, who I

534
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,240
still like, right, Anne Hathaway, get her back. But my

535
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,359
pitch and maybe gets too expensive them, right, is do

536
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,640
the men the women and then a new crew, and

537
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,599
I think you need and if the women aren't in,

538
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,279
I get that because they would be more expensive if

539
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:19,640
the and I guess they have to explain some things

540
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,200
about Danny Oscehan's fate in some of these movies. But

541
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,640
I think what you want to do, it's tough because

542
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,359
do I think there's like an Ocean's fifteen. Do I

543
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,079
think there's a version of this where they make a

544
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,039
movie and the new three Trinity of the Oceans and

545
00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:35,039
we go on and make their own I don't I think

546
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,119
people would want to see, you know, at least Damon

547
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,640
Pitt and Cluoning together. But if you want to shaw that,

548
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,440
you need three other Powerhouses's the same way we hear

549
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,200
there's rumors about Miami Vice and it's Glenn Peal Michael B. Jordan.

550
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:47,559
That's a statement right there. That's something where for me,

551
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:50,000
who doesn't really care if they're making new Miami Vice

552
00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:53,119
other than sure, what's kazinskianting to do with it? You

553
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,759
get those two, I'm interested. Right, It's the same thing

554
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,680
that we saw with the Wolves movie, like that didn't

555
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,359
really poll much, right, and Brad Pitt's movies like What's

556
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,599
the Last like Once upon a Time Hollywood poll. But

557
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,200
other than that, that's that's more like a Tarantino thing, right,

558
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,920
But let me pull up this and then I want

559
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,880
to go down Soda Burg. And that's the other thing too,

560
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,880
is like, is Soda Burke back? And that's I don't know.

561
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,680
I really don't know if he would come back or not.

562
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,880
I would hope he's back, you know. I he has

563
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,400
that sy work with them all three for some reason.

564
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,119
I think I'm gonna say he's he's not bad, But like,

565
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,319
what's he been working recently? Like Black Bag he just

566
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:32,359
made that was great one of my favorites this year.

567
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,440
Like a lot of the people presence, I haven't seen,

568
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,039
but I've heard, you know, some good things about Kimmy.

569
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,759
I have missed that one. I've missed I think a

570
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:40,960
lat of the ones that he has directed to like unsane.

571
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,680
I never saw that Logan Lucky's great. Uh side Effects,

572
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,640
I never is that. No, that's not the Contagen's the

573
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,079
one contagent. That one's good. Uh magic Mike. I've actually

574
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:57,200
never seen any of them. Uh so he he's got

575
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,640
it all over the place. But yeah, so no, it's

576
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,519
just a question of would he come back? And I

577
00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:05,920
hope so I can see this is this movie coming

578
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,519
out called The Christopher's that's happening, So we'll see. I

579
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,559
lean to know. For some reason, I don't know if

580
00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:13,960
it's him. I don't know if I feel like the

581
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,440
studio would want to go a different way. Side effects

582
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,440
is pretty great, Okay, So I don't know if I

583
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,839
could get to the point where I'm trying to do

584
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,400
like a Steven Soberg rewatch right now. I'm I'm in

585
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,880
a tough spot because I'm doing Halloween watches. I'm trying

586
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,440
to watch one Pta movie a week. Most of them

587
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,880
seeing that. I'm just trying so I can do my

588
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,319
ranking and then I want to watch after I'm done

589
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,240
Pta Qubrick because I haven't seen a lot, not like

590
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:37,799
I haven't seen a lot of stuff. I haven't seen

591
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:39,319
a lot of stuff lately because I feel like just

592
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,839
what it's the shining or there' stuff like Berry Lindon

593
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,759
where I gotta give another chance. You e can doctor

594
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:46,839
strange love. So Soderburgh's probably a back half. But I

595
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,640
do want to watch presence, so we'll see about that.

596
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:52,759
But yeah, I wonder if he would come back or not.

597
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:55,119
I'm gonna lean to know, but I hope that's part

598
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,599
of the dealon I'd like the whole crew to be

599
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,279
back together. And will it work, I don't know, because

600
00:27:58,279 --> 00:27:59,799
that's always gonna work up. The last thing I bring

601
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,920
up with for the Brad Pitt thing. Let's always a

602
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,119
producer of Enemy or on a mia on a mia

603
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,160
on a mona, whatever the fucking Daniel Day movie is.

604
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:20,319
That's the acting wise though, well, no, I guess that's

605
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,599
something the box office is man right, because you could

606
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,759
look at everything. So because I feel like takeout Once

607
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,359
upon Time Hollwood, that's a Hollywood hit or that's a

608
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,519
Tarantina one. Right. At Astra was a pretty I think

609
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:35,400
disappointing as far as boxes, I think didn't do anything amazing.

610
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,319
I think Bolt Train did, like fine, right, let's let

611
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,359
let me just quickly look at Astra, which I'm a

612
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:44,279
big defender of. I know Golden Geek's time when we

613
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,119
did that. I think me and Taylor big Fan and

614
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,000
Kirkland and Dylan, we're not look at this review scores

615
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,759
on Google two point six out of five. You gotta

616
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:55,440
be fucking kid me. At Astra is amazing, But I

617
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:58,720
digress that movie, and I get why they wouldn't pull

618
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:00,799
too much because it's kind of head But so a

619
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,480
budget of eighty one hundred million made one hundred and

620
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,920
thirty five million, so not great, right, And then Bullet

621
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,680
Trained to me it wasn't hit, but I thought it

622
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,400
was just kind of like a modest hit right with

623
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,759
the budget that it had, because it was radar. I

624
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:16,720
love Bullet Train, could watch it all time. No even better.

625
00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:18,920
I feel like maybe it's starred modest, but like eighty

626
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,079
five to ninety million. But then a box sauice of

627
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,559
two forty, so that's pretty good. But then after that,

628
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,039
with that you have Babylon, which we all know about

629
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:28,400
was a big loss, and then Wolves was a big

630
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,599
loss as well too, where it just obviously was still

631
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:32,920
going to Apple but still didn't perform at all because

632
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,079
his next movie, F one was also going to Apple,

633
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,519
and I think something with Wolves, they didn't push it

634
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,519
as much as they were initially going to do that thing.

635
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:43,119
It was supposed to be a longer one. But that's

636
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,079
where F one you can argue that is the F

637
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,240
one audience that's pulling that ahead right but still hit

638
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:50,759
and still the pit name. So it's the thing of

639
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,279
like will this movie poll people? I really don't know,

640
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:58,160
And that's why I think you need the the nostalage

641
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,640
of them together. You definitely would like jul opportunity, even

642
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,400
saying that you should get Julia back, and then you

643
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,680
do need I think another big three, at least a

644
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,160
big two. You need someone the equivalent of the Clooney

645
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,079
and a Brad Pitt together and that' stuff, because there's

646
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:13,359
not necessarily like movie stars now, but I will be

647
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,440
Joran and Glenn Pale that would be in a good option.

648
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,319
But if they're doing Miami Vice, then you don't do that.

649
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,720
Like I think Glenn Powell is like obviously all the

650
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:24,519
obviously the easy one. He probably will in a couple

651
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:26,559
years becoming like Jenner Lawrence where people are sick of them.

652
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:28,119
But to me, it's like he just fits that as

653
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,240
set of what Ocean's eleven would type of be. But yeah,

654
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,359
I really don't know who I would put in there,

655
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,200
So we'll see. F one got a boost from the

656
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,240
peal that made the top gun Maverick marketing absolutely right,

657
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,400
and that's why I kind of put like multiple asterisks

658
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,680
on on F one, but still it was a hit, right.

659
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:52,839
But I'm just trying to think of actors because George Clooney,

660
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,319
how old was he was in his early forties, right,

661
00:30:55,359 --> 00:31:02,039
George Clooney Ocean's eleven age, he was forty forty ran

662
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:04,359
the Dot. And even Glenn Powell, right, he's about to

663
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:06,319
be forty or he is forty. He kind of broke later.

664
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,359
He's thirty six, so even he's even younger then. I

665
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:13,359
just like I'm having a tough time of stars those

666
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:15,359
age just a lot like younger stars coming up. But

667
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,079
like I would never say Timthy Schalomey should be in

668
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,599
Ocean's eleven right, like, let's see let's see what Google

669
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,359
gives us Ocean elevens fan cast for let's say reboot.

670
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,519
Let's see what people come up with here. And that's

671
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,359
where honestly too, when I supposed to bring that up,

672
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,960
I think that like Gosling would fit here. Officely's part

673
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,039
of that prequel, but I would love it. They just said, ah,

674
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,799
we're gonna kill that, but let's put you two in that.

675
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:42,000
I don't think Margot would go for it, but Gossling

676
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,319
would work. You were about to say, Schallo may yeah,

677
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:46,920
I don't think. I think Charalam is gonna be a

678
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,480
different lovel Shalom looks like he's going to be he

679
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,599
like it sounds like he's been an Oscar for what

680
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640
is that for Mario Supreme? Which is kind of funny

681
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,480
because like there's a talk of which saft you have

682
00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,440
the town. I don't think it's that. I think Smash

683
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:01,400
Machine has a lot of good stuff. So I think

684
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,599
Benny Saftie is still very talented. But Alvisosly, the other

685
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,519
Safti is getting the bigger praise, and it's it's curious

686
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,920
if it's gonna happen, right, because I agree with people

687
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,279
where the Academy is weird. It is a new academy,

688
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:13,200
but it was like, are they gonna make Timmy do

689
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,839
the Leo thing where they're gonna make them really work

690
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,799
for it? But it feels like the people that have

691
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,799
seen these movies a lot of them have been like no,

692
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,119
like it's so undeniable this movie, which is gonna be

693
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,119
interesting because I think is Sham can win this now

694
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:28,359
he's not somebody like they're like, I'm trying to think

695
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:34,640
of somebody recently. Oh God, Like I'm just I'm blanking.

696
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,480
I'm not pulling. Because even the candor, but I'll use

697
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,440
I know who's a better a person uses Rammy Mallick,

698
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,200
right because the candor I think is a little bit different.

699
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,640
Malick wins that he's coming off mister Robot be Human Rhapsody,

700
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:49,599
and then he's really up until Oppenheimer, which is a

701
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,079
small role. He's not anything academy wise out right. Sometimes

702
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:56,440
it's just the perfect timing. Shame does not shrike me?

703
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:58,000
Is that shall may like? And I know we talk

704
00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:00,880
about this already on the Oscars cast. I no problem

705
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,400
with his speech of the whole, Like I want to

706
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,279
be one of the greats like Lebron. I look at

707
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,799
Daniel Day and y old days. I had no problem

708
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,559
whatsoever him make that speech, you know, feel like, oh

709
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,960
he's pomp, is arrogant, no man, like he knows what

710
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,440
he's got and he's working hard and like that. I

711
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:17,160
understood what he meant. I was always like, fucking yeah,

712
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,960
go get like to me, like you should want actors

713
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960
like that where he says he's striving to be better

714
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:25,039
and up there with the greats. If he wins, like

715
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,759
I I do, I want to Traust told you, well,

716
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,680
wait till after Marie Supreme. I think he could break

717
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,200
the record. Now, obviously Daniel Day could break the record,

718
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,920
I guess because he's back now, right, and he has

719
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200
that movie. I think Daniel Day's gonna get nominated. But

720
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,839
I think if Shallo May wins to Marie Supreme, there's

721
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,839
a good chance he's going to break that record because

722
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,799
how old is he now? He's twenty something, right, Timothy Shallomy.

723
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,799
Let's see, he's twenty nine, he's supposed to be thirty.

724
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,799
Oh my god, times flies. But like when in Meryl

725
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,279
Street Meryl Streep first oscar Win Age, we're doing a

726
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:04,240
lot of age uh at this time. Let's see, so

727
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:06,640
she was thirty, which that's kind of funny, hey, because

728
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,760
he would be probably by time this all comes around

729
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,800
because when's his birthday? Uh it's uh, he's December, so

730
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,760
he's turned thirty this year, So that's kind of funny, right,

731
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,239
So maybe I won't say it's a shooing to break

732
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,119
the record. He just feels a lot younger to me,

733
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,480
but obviously be tons of times, like now he's already

734
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,519
been nominated. But it'll be funny if he kind of

735
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,440
wins it faster than Leo because he ever makes that comparison.

736
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:29,360
And I agree, I don't think he's gonna do this

737
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,119
type of stuff. Now. Granted he did do Wonka and

738
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,239
done to me is different because doing this to knee

739
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,199
that is a franchise, but it's a franchise in Wave.

740
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,719
We're really doing it for the first time. He did

741
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
do Wonka, so I guess you could see the pitch like,

742
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:46,519
could you, you know, get him into oceans maybe? And

743
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:48,800
Steuerman Mike says, ingla, is Glenn Pelle really that big

744
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,320
of a name yet? Know it's talk about his football

745
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,199
name or football show. I agree, with you and I

746
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,639
other than him getting money. I thought that was a

747
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,559
bad idea doing that football show. I think it's not

748
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,320
always true, but I I do think that quote of

749
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,320
I think he's off social media or he only posts

750
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,760
every once a while. Michael me Jordan said, like, the

751
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,039
reason he doesn't do much with social media because Denzel

752
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:09,679
told him like, if they see you on the weekdays,

753
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,400
they're not going to pay for you in the weekends, right,

754
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,280
And I agree with that. Not to everybody, because obviously

755
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,159
their extent of promotion whatnot, like social media is a

756
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:20,719
huge aspect, right. But I think there is a degree

757
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,159
of when Running Man comes out, and I've seen this Emily,

758
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:26,679
if people are busier, don't a basis, don't have the money.

759
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,280
It's like, I really would like to see this Glenn

760
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,719
Pal picture and then you go, ahwa, it's a show

761
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:33,400
on Disney Plus, allright, own, I'll just watch this and

762
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,159
I'll watch Running Man when it comes to X, Y

763
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,280
and Z, right, I think the time in that show

764
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,239
is really bad. I think though the problem is is

765
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,440
he really that big of a name yet? Who is

766
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,599
a big name now? There is Like I know it's

767
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,760
something we've talked about before. But it's like, there is

768
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,280
no like Brad Pitt, George Clooney movie stars. To me,

769
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,119
it is two things. It is a well liked star,

770
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,239
it is okay, there's three things. There's the director, right,

771
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,559
Tarantino Nolan uh Eanscore says he's over. I don't think

772
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:03,800
you can put there anymore, unfortunately, Denise hopefully building up

773
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,000
to me, that's the thing where it's like, there's this

774
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,880
is the Nolan event, this is the Tarantino event, right.

775
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,000
So there's the director, which is a you know, we're

776
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,440
seeing something because I know this guy's work, which is great.

777
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,320
And then to me, there's two other parents where I

778
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,599
don't think there's anybody. It's just I am Glenn Pale,

779
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,920
I'm Tinndy Shallomey, I am the rock. I'm doing this

780
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,519
movie look a smash machine and it's gonna be a

781
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:25,880
big hit. Right, even ten years ago that was starting

782
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,679
to die out, right. But I think there's two pairings.

783
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,920
There is star we love with ip we like, or

784
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,800
stars we love together. I think the ensemble helps, which

785
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:41,199
again with Oceans, with other thing with the Nolan movies,

786
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,639
with Dune, there's and I'm using Ocean as an example

787
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,679
what they should do. We all know a dune and Oppenheimer,

788
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,159
those actors took pay cuts. That's how you get all

789
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:52,039
those people together, right. I'm sure that probably happens with

790
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,119
Knives out as well. Like that's where it is to

791
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:55,639
me is the draw. There's no one that's just a

792
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,800
single draw. Unfortunately. I think there's a lot of things

793
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,920
that have changed that. Let's see espost as Running Man

794
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,320
will be the bait to see this for the pad

795
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,960
Land sweep. Yeah, it is like, honestly, that is the

796
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,119
test as dumb as that sounds because it is another ip.

797
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,519
But like anyone but you big hit romance great and

798
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:16,519
we kind of thought these are the two next big stars,

799
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:19,760
right Sidney Sweeney and Maccola did real because that small budget,

800
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,599
but the rest of stuff hasn't been the greatest. We'll

801
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,920
have to see how Christy does with Glenn pal Hugh

802
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,199
was also in Twisters, right, which is an old EP

803
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,840
but still an eyepiece, so it's still some help. Running

804
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,480
Man is an EYEP but there are so many people

805
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,239
that don't know about the Arnold wan Er, Like it's

806
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,639
a whole genera different generation, right, So I don't think

807
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:41,639
it's in that sense where Twisters need a more mainstream

808
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:43,920
and comes up a lot more. And that was a

809
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,000
bit more of an ensemble where who is in Running Man?

810
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:49,840
There's who's the joke character? Fuck? Who is it? There's

811
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,679
somebody that's in there for comedic relief? Is it Michael Sarah?

812
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,840
Is that it? It's somebody like that. Let me see

813
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:05,320
it's somebody that's like, so it's man, leave, it is

814
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,880
Michael Sarah. He's a comedic character. Man Lee paces in this.

815
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:12,519
That's great. Josh Brolin, William h Macy, Colin Domingo, and

816
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:16,599
David zayas Batista from Dexter. Sean Hayes, what a stack

817
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,840
fucking cast. Good for Running Man, good for Eggar right there,

818
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,400
but still that feels like it's a vehicle on him.

819
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,039
That is the test. Yeah, Mike, you did beat me.

820
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,159
I'll say, I suppose with the delay you got me.

821
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,119
I think that's the thing. Right, Let's see Sumer Mike

822
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:35,079
sense if you have to described them with the it's

823
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,280
the guy from X. They aren't a big name. Uh.

824
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,199
And then you say Austin Butler, a guy I go

825
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,480
by who my parents know, and they know Butler and

826
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,679
not Glenn. I would have to check about Butler. I'll

827
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,840
have to ask my mom. She knows Glenn because she

828
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,039
saw her and my whole family. I didn't go see,

829
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:54,239
but my sister, her and Emily went to go see

830
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,079
anyone but you. I don't know but Butler. I'll have

831
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:59,079
to ask, right, my dad. I think my dad is

832
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:03,159
almost all like guy from X. You know, so I

833
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:08,360
think it depends. I think the thing I think the

834
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,679
thing with Butler is I don't think he has been

835
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,960
the star of uh and and I'm in the middle

836
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,840
of watching Cott Stealing. I think that didn't perform the greatest, right.

837
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,960
I'm not saying you're biased, mikeuse you just watching and

838
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,760
really liked it. I'm enjoying it so far. I don't

839
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,400
think as much as you, but like I'm enjoying it.

840
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,639
I don't think Butler has been I wouldn't consider him

841
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,800
why Dune two was success orl right, Like, let's see,

842
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,079
I think I'm I know I'm missing one in here,

843
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:34,400
but let me tick awesome Buttle and don't be wrong.

844
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,800
I think he is the same thing that is the

845
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,599
I guess Elvis right? How was how did Elvis do?

846
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,280
Elvis movie? And that definitely built him and he's great

847
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,280
in that. Uh definitely shouldn't want over Brendan Fraser. Glad

848
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,679
that happened. But let's see that was eighty five million,

849
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,079
twenty eight million or two hundred and eighty eight million,

850
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,079
so like, yeah, but that's the same thing of like

851
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,480
it's you know, and yeah, Elvis was a huge army paranoio.

852
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,320
It's apsolut And that's what I was gonna say. Did

853
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,800
Austin Butler sell that? No, that was because it was

854
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,840
a well made movie bos Lerhman and it was the

855
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,840
Elvis Dame, right, So I'm just trying to think of

856
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:14,360
let me pull up, let me take a look and

857
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,400
see of movies. Uh, he was in he's in Eddington

858
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,119
for a little bit. He's in Master's there the whole

859
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,360
My man say, bike Riders. Yeah, like he doesn't have

860
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,239
that right, So that's that's toughing. I think it's you know,

861
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,119
all the pen we are because it's once point in

862
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,920
Hollywood Elvis, which got up big Bike Riders did nothing

863
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,320
right because I think Bike Riders was kind of because

864
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,000
between let me just pull it up here. I feel

865
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400
like now people have written him off as a big

866
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,639
star because the bike Riders was off of Elvis and

867
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:49,039
then Codd Stealing. Those are two ones that did not

868
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:53,880
perform well, right, I'm pretty sure under like underwhelming. So

869
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,599
Bike Riders, what budget of thirty to forty million? Thirty

870
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,920
six million? Not good? Cod Stealing budget of forty million,

871
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,599
box off was thirty two million. So that's thing I

872
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,440
don't disagreem like that. There's definitely some people that would

873
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,840
think he's a star, but he didn't have the track

874
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,199
record that the Powell does. But Pal's also been ip stuff, right,

875
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,400
and that's what I just think. I don't think there

876
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,159
is anybody I think same things. Sweeny looked like she

877
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,920
could be that and it wasn't. That wasn't the case, right,

878
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,719
Margot quality, same thing, substance super hot after that, I'm

879
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,599
not talking not talking physical appearances. Yeah, she's gorgeous in

880
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:33,320
that movie, same as Demi. But after that Memes Oscars,

881
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,159
Substance was even tall like that started to people watch

882
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,559
us like a gross up movie or started to go everywhere, right,

883
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,320
and that the honey you don't know. Obviously not the

884
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,719
greatest reviewed movie. But that doesn't matter, right, because fucking

885
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Minecraft and other movies that are not good review movies,

886
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:48,760
break box office records or do this. I'm not saying

887
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,639
Honey Don't should have had Minecraft. I'm just saying that

888
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:57,119
that was sold on Margaret quality and nothing happened. Right.

889
00:41:57,159 --> 00:41:59,480
That was another one that God, what did that come

890
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:00,840
out to you? Right? And I feel like it's probably

891
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,039
like a budget of like twenty thirty million a Maine

892
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:09,480
about under that Honey Don't. Let's see so budget was

893
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:13,880
a box office six point seven million? Ay ya yay

894
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:18,400
geez a wheeze uh. And I agree yeah with this one.

895
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,519
He's parents certified and he's speaking of Michael B. Jordan.

896
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:22,400
Might be Jordan is a star. Michael B. Jordan's been

897
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,280
in multiple franchises. I know, again they're ips, but with

898
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,559
Black Panther, Creed Sinners, I think he is one of

899
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:33,079
the bigger names. Now again, who knows what happens is

900
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,639
you just put him in at rom com or a drama.

901
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:39,360
It's all about timing, right, So there's nobody that's a guaranteed.

902
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,239
So that's why for me it is a you need

903
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:47,079
there you go, there's your three awesome Butler, Glenn pal Uh,

904
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:51,119
Michael B. Jordan and then you get either Mark quality

905
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,119
or Sidney Sweeney as the female lead. You get Sidney

906
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,239
Sweeney because you can go with that AMM but you hype,

907
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:58,159
you know, and maybe not not Michael B. Jordan or

908
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,760
Glen Pucket's got the movie going, but those that's where

909
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,360
you should kind of aim for, right. So it's just

910
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,519
that there is no movie star, There is no that.

911
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:09,800
It's it's concepts, right. It's a and same thing we

912
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,280
talked about anime doing great lately or something like the conjuring,

913
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,519
Like the box office is all over the place right now,

914
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:18,480
so we'll see. And that's why I talk about this

915
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:21,679
where so I'm gonna talk about fast, talk about Dexter quickly,

916
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,599
I'm gonna talk about uh, Charlie's patront question Mike, I'm

917
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,719
gonna which I almost had this idea already. I think

918
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,039
your question because Mike asked me, what is the mount

919
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:36,559
rushmore of the horror directors, I honestly think, unless there's

920
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:38,519
something that breaks, my hope is to do a bonus

921
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:40,440
episode this week. I think that's gonna be the main

922
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,719
topic because I was looking at that and I think

923
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,079
I have three solidified, but one I want to talk

924
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:47,559
through it. And I also don't think that's like a

925
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:49,960
I can do that in a flat like five minutes.

926
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,199
I think there's a lot of contenders, especially like I

927
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,199
have two solidified too, I share with you, Mike, and

928
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,119
then there's the third Stobi. Oh, I'm pretty sure, and

929
00:43:57,159 --> 00:43:58,960
then the foreslot can go all over. So there's a

930
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,079
tease that whether it's this week, next week. I think

931
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:03,000
I'm gonna do main topic based on Mike's question of

932
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:06,000
what's the mount rushmore of the twenty first century horror directors?

933
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,480
Because I can't just knock that out quickly, and because

934
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:10,360
if we didn't talk too much today then sure. But yeah,

935
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,519
so Mike, I will do that question. But I think

936
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:14,400
we can make that a main topic one, So look

937
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,960
out for that and send in more if people have,

938
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,400
If you have your picks, send them in before I

939
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,800
do them. You know, i'd say Thursday, Friday something like that.

940
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,920
Might not be a live episode, but still or even

941
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,840
next week. We'll see. My schedule is all over the place,

942
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,840
but I will do that probably is a main topic,

943
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,360
if not a second main topic, because that that there's

944
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,119
a lot of contenders for the best horror directors right now.

945
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,480
But then speaking with the box office fast and Furious.

946
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:39,960
There's and this is old news out because it came

947
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,079
out like on the Friday, which is just this weird

948
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:44,679
stuff where Vin Diesel says, oh, they come to him,

949
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,159
they want a new movie, which could be true, and

950
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:49,239
then he's posting photos of him on the set. He's

951
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,159
talking about being back on the street and all this stuff.

952
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,960
And then we find out that they're not even shooting

953
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,960
this movie, and that Universal it's kind of like, hey,

954
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,480
we we want you to bring down the budget to

955
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,519
do this right, and now there's it kind of sounds

956
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:06,920
like it's stalled. And here's the thing. I think that

957
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:11,280
Universal has all the fucking power here because obviously the

958
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,159
last Fast and Furious movie made quite a bit of money, right,

959
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:16,920
but it had a budget. What was the final budget

960
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,360
on that Fast X? Like it's part one, right, but

961
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,199
like it has like a budget of four hundred five

962
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,800
like it see yeah, and even then it's this three

963
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,760
seventy eight, but we know it's more than that on

964
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,320
lots of reports. And then I boxed us as a

965
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,039
seven fourteen made to a point where it made seven

966
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:37,360
fourteen not profitable. So I understand them saying, hey, you

967
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,400
gotta bring this down and I also just don't think

968
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:43,800
the demand is there. And I know people might be, oh,

969
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,719
they made so many of them, that is part of it.

970
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:48,320
But I think there was a layer, and I talked

971
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,519
about this in the last movie, and there's a couple

972
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:53,360
more I think it was. If it wasn't the one

973
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,199
before nine it was, I think it was not. I

974
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,119
think eight started to Obviously they go very much over

975
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:01,480
the top five and all on, right, but there's still

976
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:04,880
like a level of various familitude there where it feels like, Okay,

977
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,760
it's in the world, but quite heightened. Then we start

978
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,199
to obviousely you start to go to space, but then

979
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,960
you start to get really really big. But I think

980
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,119
the other thing too is they just lost the stakes

981
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:17,159
of almost every character that's died they bring back. So

982
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:18,800
it's just like that was the thing where it felt

983
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880
like this evolving chapter and song, like what's gonna do?

984
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,239
Like what's gonna happen? Who were gonna lose? But it's

985
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,079
the abundancene that hams with the MC you know too, right,

986
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:28,920
the buncy to bring these people back, and the dumb

987
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,360
ways they do it. It just feels like there's no

988
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,079
point of really watching anymore. And that's why I felt

989
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:38,000
last one where that's the thing where most of the time,

990
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:40,559
even the things aren't great, I would prefer them to

991
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:42,480
have an ending. So if people haven't seen Last Fast,

992
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:44,519
fear is it's a bunch of Cliffaners, which I'm not

993
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:46,440
gonna get into because that, to me is the worst

994
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,639
one that's a bad movie other than My Moa. That's

995
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:52,920
a bad movie. To me. It's this thing of most

996
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,559
of the time, I want there to be an ending.

997
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:56,639
I want to know what's going on. So whenever I

998
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,719
watch this series again, I can go, Okay, I have

999
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,679
the X, Y and Z point A to point B,

1000
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:05,320
but they kind admit it that I don't really care,

1001
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,280
Like they got so far off the path that I

1002
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,440
don't really care whether the any of these characters are

1003
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,960
because it's not that big song anymore. Because again, these

1004
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,960
characters just come back alive. They're here, they're there. It's

1005
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,320
just it is. And again I can be fine with

1006
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,599
that in a comic book world. In this world which

1007
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:26,400
was supposed to be realistic, you know, to an extent,

1008
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,159
I don't care. So and that's the thing where I

1009
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:32,800
feel that's something that don't get me wrong. I think

1010
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,440
people fast furus won't bomb. It could come out make money,

1011
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,880
of course, but I don't think there is a fever

1012
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:41,159
pitch wanting it. And I think that is because of

1013
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:42,800
what they've done in the franchis and people move on.

1014
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,039
There's too much time now. It's like twenty so if

1015
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,239
this movie comes out, probably what twenty twenty seven, that's

1016
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,760
four years. Sometimes, you know, asses makes the heart grow fonder.

1017
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:52,880
But there's other stuff too where they're like, oh, we

1018
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,679
got to reunite Domb and Brian. No we don't, No,

1019
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,280
we don't. All these other deaths in the movies are

1020
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,960
bad that they back and just went back on the

1021
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,000
whole perfect ending of the two cars driving off and

1022
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:07,440
see you again, all that stuff. If they just do

1023
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,280
bring them back, it's like, well, what's the It makes

1024
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,440
that movie feel lesser than right, And that's what a

1025
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,159
lot of these other ones have made these movies feel

1026
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,519
lesser than, which is not good. So it's weird where

1027
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:22,119
for myself, who always likes to have a ending point,

1028
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,800
and I feel like me and Emily every couple years

1029
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,440
like like to watch them all together because she was

1030
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,639
a big fan of them. And then I walked by

1031
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:29,480
Oh yeah, these are fun. We haven't done that in

1032
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,159
a well because we just haven't felt knee the last one.

1033
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:34,000
Same thing for her, I was this is this isn't

1034
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,719
the greatest, right, So they've kind of gone to that

1035
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,639
part where we don't care. And that's where for me

1036
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:41,079
it's crazy, where it's on a cliffhanger and usually want

1037
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,000
it ending even if it's bad, like let's end it off.

1038
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:45,360
I don't care if we never see them again. Right.

1039
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,480
So that's where I think Universal very much has the power,

1040
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,800
and that's where it's so funny. Then Diesel, it's all

1041
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,840
about these movies about family. It's about the crew and

1042
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,320
how close they are, et cetera. Right, And it's the

1043
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,199
thing of well how close are you really? Are you

1044
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,159
willing to take a pay cut? Because I imagine that's

1045
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,280
what loss of it is, right, Yeah. And when they

1046
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,360
were making money hand over fists, absolutely you can get

1047
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,760
everyone in there, but when they're not less to go around.

1048
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,159
So the thing of hey, either you do the Oppenheimer

1049
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:11,360
Doom thing were we all work together make a bunch

1050
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,599
of money but take cuts at the start, or I

1051
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:16,280
guess you can be greedy. But then there's like a

1052
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,079
less chance of success or they just don't make it right.

1053
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,840
So I don't know sure if they make it all

1054
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,559
be there, I would enjoy seeing the ending, and I think, yes,

1055
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:27,480
you should cap this off, and I do think it

1056
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:29,559
will happen. I think they will find a way to

1057
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,440
get it to Doe because it just it's odd if

1058
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,000
you do nothing with it. And I don't think it's

1059
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,320
something that they go, Okay, we're rebooting with new actors.

1060
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,559
I don't. I do think it is tied. At least

1061
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:42,880
people's enjoyment is a lot tied to Ben die'zell and

1062
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,599
Paul Walker, Michelle Roriguez and the Rock and Tyreese like

1063
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:48,039
I think it is. Then I'm not saying you can

1064
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:50,599
never do that again. But it's not like Spider Man

1065
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:53,719
where you reboot right away and yeah, people love Tobin Kursten,

1066
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,760
but it's you can get a whole fresh coat of

1067
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,360
pain on that right, No pun intended with Fast. I

1068
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,840
think what built the house was not the character. It

1069
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,960
was the actors in there. But at the same time,

1070
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:07,719
they're not worth the about that. You could be losing, right,

1071
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,840
so we'll see. It doesn't matter mean they if they

1072
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,239
don't do it. That's all right, because I think last

1073
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,599
movie before oh before ten, did it just end with

1074
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:20,320
like Brian pulling up to the cooker, so like I

1075
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,599
could end in and watch them and be fine with it. Right,

1076
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:30,880
So we'll see. I suppose don't forget to the solo

1077
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,639
hobbspin off set between Fast X and lemn Yeah, that

1078
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:40,159
was again. I I don't want that. I like the

1079
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:43,440
Hobbes character. The two things I want is Hobbs and

1080
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,440
Shaw too, which there was like rumors that they made

1081
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,239
didn't get along, which wouldn't surprise me, but that's what

1082
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,199
i'd want, or I want Rock with the crew. I

1083
00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:51,719
don't need them to be on his own and I

1084
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,199
definitely don't need that. I'm not saying it could be awful,

1085
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:56,840
but I just when he came back, I was like,

1086
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,960
oh cool, they figured out he can be at the

1087
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,760
Fast Team. And then it's like, not know, he's actually

1088
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,320
it might just be his own movie and that's it.

1089
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,639
It's like, well that's lame, That's not what I'm looking

1090
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,079
for here. So but yes, I did forget about it.

1091
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:09,639
We'll see me the Rocks more down to do it

1092
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:12,119
after the Smashing Machine, right, I hope It's gonna be

1093
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,119
interesting these next six months for Hollywood fans see how

1094
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:18,760
the auscars go to right for Hollywood fans and wrestling fans.

1095
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:24,559
Gonna be very interesting to see see the Rocks trajectory. Right,

1096
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,880
Ryan Reynolds is the villain for Hobbs and Shaw, who's

1097
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,760
still waiting for that payoff. I don't think he is

1098
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,840
the villain, right. I thought the rumor that was that

1099
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,639
was Kelanu who was the voice and they couldn't nail

1100
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:35,440
down a deal. I think that. I thought that's what

1101
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,679
it was. He was the voice and they just couldn't

1102
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,599
nail down before the movie came out, so they left

1103
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:43,159
it open by I guess was there something with Reynolds

1104
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:44,639
being the villain. You'd have to explain that to me

1105
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:46,559
because I forgot, but I remember Keanu. That thing is

1106
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:48,920
true at least. I don't know if he was the

1107
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,280
main big bad, but that's what sounds like. I feel

1108
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,199
like they would just make Momoa the main big bat

1109
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,639
now that was in Hobbs's shot right, like the secret device.

1110
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:59,320
Mike says. I think the time of making remarking those

1111
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,360
movies is part one. I'm part two is over, or

1112
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,320
if as is over backfire form mission possible too. Yeah,

1113
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,440
I agree. How do you feel about that for Wicked though,

1114
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,360
Mike right, is it just different because that's not really

1115
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,320
a big franchise is one and part two, so I

1116
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,800
could see that. But I agree. I think for the

1117
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,880
most part, I think Avengers could still kind of get

1118
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,079
away with it, but I think for most franchises, Yeah,

1119
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,800
people are kind of done with that. So he's in

1120
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,199
the movie, and I thought I remembered Reynolds also being

1121
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,320
the voice. He might have done the voice, but I

1122
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,119
don't know if he's the actual film, but yes, he

1123
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:33,440
is in that movie. Another character that just brandly pops up.

1124
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:39,280
But yeah, we'll see. And then Dexter resurrected, resurrected, Resurrection

1125
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,920
renewed for season two. There you go, that's happening. Yeah,

1126
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:48,079
I sure, I obviously did well enough. I think from

1127
00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:52,000
a business they are smart to kind of ditch Original Sin,

1128
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:54,400
which was not good. Not say Resurrection is good, but

1129
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,199
to ditch that, and then the Triny Killer show. Will see,

1130
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,719
they didn't give a date. They were doing the right

1131
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,000
room now. I hope it is the only way to go.

1132
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:05,000
But up, they did a lot of damage with Resurrection,

1133
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:08,119
and I'm more excited for the reviews to do the

1134
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:11,079
memes or we had the chat GPT of Dexter being

1135
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:12,920
Mission Impossible, which was one of our best ones. We

1136
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:17,079
were done. That was tons of there's The reviews are

1137
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:19,119
fun and people still listen to them, so we will

1138
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:22,199
still do them, but it's not the way where oh man,

1139
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:23,800
I'm so excited to talk about Dexter. I'm excited to

1140
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,920
talk about Dexter and kind of a laughing amount, but

1141
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,320
not in a way where I once was, especially after

1142
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,679
new Blood. So very disappointing, but it's good to I

1143
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,119
guess here, and I think this is locked in right

1144
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:36,440
because technically Dexter original sin got renewed for a season two,

1145
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,239
but they chopped that. The word has all those changes

1146
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,639
happened because of new leadership. I think now if the

1147
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:45,519
new leadership is taken over and Dexter season two has

1148
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:47,440
been renewed, I think that's a good sign, like it's

1149
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,079
actually happened, barring the show runners or writers not getting

1150
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:53,840
along and not working it out right. So we'll see.

1151
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,239
But yeah, let's go to Charlie's Patreon question. Who Yeah,

1152
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,000
thanks Charlie for message I passed on the boys for

1153
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:00,639
the uh your view on the shot, which I'll read

1154
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:03,199
a bit of it here. I'm glad you like them,

1155
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:04,639
glad you like the movie and some other stuff you

1156
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:08,760
picked up on for for the Substance. But yeah, no,

1157
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,280
I'm glad you enjoyed the episode. It was very, very

1158
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,880
fun one I've been waiting to do for a long time.

1159
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,480
Surprised we got it. But and then, like I said, Mike,

1160
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,280
I'm gonna do yours is a full topic because that

1161
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,519
could be a bit longer. But Charlie Randell says, you

1162
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:23,719
got two questions this week. Sorry if it's a little long,

1163
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,920
and never never people, if you worry about this is

1164
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,679
the time to send a long ones because there's many

1165
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:32,079
times where there'll be lighter shows or nothing to talk about.

1166
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:34,679
And even then I'll just always do it the next episode, right,

1167
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,880
so I'll always make good uh It says Shining review

1168
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,239
is a lot of fun. Love the movie like you,

1169
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,039
the twisted them. The photo really stuck with me. Also,

1170
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:44,039
never saw the cool comparisons with some of the shots

1171
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:46,320
from the Substance. Yeah, that that's one of those things

1172
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,840
where I watched it and then I love the Substance

1173
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,199
and then people talk about, and I thought, oh, it

1174
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,000
must be like a unconscious like within my consciousness of

1175
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,760
another reason why I love the substance because Shining for me,

1176
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,559
you know, minor spoilers people I think already knows, but

1177
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,000
greatest horror me all time masterpiece. So seeing similar images

1178
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:06,159
in the substance like, oh, okay, yeah, that's why I

1179
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,639
enjoy it, right, And I love all those kind of

1180
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,800
tributes and Easter eggs. I don't think it's you know,

1181
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,000
too much. Some people might argue that the carpet and everything.

1182
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:16,239
I get the point, but you know, that's fun. You know,

1183
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,480
people are inspired by that stuff. As I've said before

1184
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,320
in that same review, there's a show on our second

1185
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,760
film that is just not ripped from the Shining, but

1186
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,239
it is a tribut because I wanted to do it,

1187
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,280
and let's take it on its head and change a

1188
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,199
little bit. But that movie inspired a lot of people. Ah,

1189
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,840
let's see. Okay, So he says, I've been trying to

1190
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,360
watch all the old horror movies that I've never seen.

1191
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,039
Just in the last months, I've seen signs of Lambs,

1192
00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:44,679
twentieth or twenty fiftieth, fiftieth anniversary for Jaws, and Theater nice.

1193
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,239
I wanted to see them, didn't get around to it. Halloween,

1194
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,559
The Thing, Psycho, Texas, Chainsaw, sixth Sense, The Shining, and Misery.

1195
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,840
What are a couple more I should watch? Based on

1196
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,679
the list, you could assume I haven't seen anything earlier

1197
00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:59,320
than the two thousands. Also, what are your favorite three

1198
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,280
movies online? List? My top or The Thing, Halloween, SNS

1199
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,559
of Lamb, not The Shining, my god, but yeah, that

1200
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:09,079
would be where mine is there, So that let's say

1201
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:15,039
that you've seen Shining's number one for sure. Halloween would

1202
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:21,719
be number two, I think. And then I have to

1203
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,400
rewatch The Thing Psycho in sixth sense because I've not

1204
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,360
seen them in a very long time. I love Misery.

1205
00:56:29,679 --> 00:56:32,239
Misery is probably that there because I know April's probably

1206
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,400
mad somewhere. She's probably waking up with her chainsaw. I

1207
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:42,159
don't Texas Chainsaw. I hold in high regard for the

1208
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,840
impact and what it did for horror community and film

1209
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,480
and going forward, and it's defin inspired a bunch of people, right,

1210
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,239
I don't have it in that high steem for me,

1211
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,760
like if I'm making them out rushmore my favorites all time,

1212
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,679
my top ten, I don't have it there. I think

1213
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:59,559
at times it's a little I don't know, meandering. I

1214
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,599
don't really I love all the characters. I think you

1215
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:03,440
could cut some of that stuff out. I think there's

1216
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,719
some horrifying stuff, don't You're wrong. There's some great shots

1217
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,320
in there, some great moments, but it just it's never

1218
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,599
hit me the same way as it has some other people.

1219
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:11,800
And I think we all have those, right. I think

1220
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,679
we all have a hot I knew April is on there.

1221
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,039
I always got me chains are ready, she says. I

1222
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:19,800
think we all have There's so many people that feel

1223
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,320
way about the Shining right of Like when I don't

1224
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,840
hear people, which if anyone's there, there's no disrespect is fine.

1225
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,039
But when I hear people go like, oh, you know,

1226
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:28,800
I like the Shining a lot, but Doctor Sleep's better,

1227
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,519
I'm like, fucking what, no way. I love Doctor Sleep,

1228
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:35,320
but like, there's absolutely no way right. So for me,

1229
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,559
I think everyone has those top ten horror movies that

1230
00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:40,800
there's one on the list where you go, h not

1231
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,199
necessary for me. I think what you should do is

1232
00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:45,559
you got to knock off the big three. You did

1233
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:49,480
Halloween Offuly. You could keep watching them and chat. I

1234
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:51,480
see you know April and their spos and Mike if

1235
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,639
you want to go into it too, what is your

1236
00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:56,239
guys's next that you'd put for Halloween? Right, because it's

1237
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,639
tough for me to say with what I'm saying with

1238
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:01,760
the Trinity is to me, it's Michael, Freddie and Jason.

1239
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:04,320
You should watch a few of those. I think with

1240
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:07,679
Freddie it's very easy because watch the first one. You

1241
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:09,360
could watch the first one be done. The first one

1242
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,400
to me is as like a horror masterpiece, where the

1243
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,039
shine of Me is a film masterpiece. There's some stuff

1244
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:18,400
where like the acting of Nightmare is not gonna be

1245
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,599
what Jack Nicholson is doing, right, But I the concept

1246
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:24,800
that performance, especially from Robert England, absolutely love. So for me,

1247
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,559
you should at least knock off that. And then I

1248
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:28,360
could say like, oh, if you like that, but don't

1249
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,440
want to watch them all right, because you watched Halloween, Charlie,

1250
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,920
I'm not sure now are you playing like, oh you

1251
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,800
want to watch all them? Two? Three, four? Halloween to

1252
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,039
me is harder. They live there's another good one. Yeah,

1253
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,440
Jason character wise is in the trendy in terms of

1254
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:47,599
movie Hell no, I yes, I that's a tough thing, right.

1255
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:49,000
So that's where I'm getting before I get to your

1256
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,119
point there, Mike. Where Freddie I can easily say, and

1257
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:54,599
that's why to me, Freddy is the best one. Freddy

1258
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:56,639
has the best quality out of Michael, out of the

1259
00:58:56,679 --> 00:58:59,360
horror icons, I think all of them, right, he has

1260
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,239
the best. He'd watch the thing, so he's got that

1261
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,400
covered down. He has to me easy ones where I

1262
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,840
could say, okay with Freddy, it's the first one, three

1263
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:12,079
and New Nightmare. Those are ones that I think are

1264
00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:14,079
great horror movies. There's lots of people that defend for

1265
00:59:14,679 --> 00:59:16,360
But if you, Charlie, because I'm not sure if you're

1266
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,639
just watching the classic, because some people might, Oh, I've

1267
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:20,360
watched this and then that's good enough. I'm gonna move

1268
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,880
on watch some other stuff. If you're gonna watch the

1269
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:25,480
entire series of them, all great and there's some fun stuff,

1270
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:27,960
there's some bad stuff, there's some good stuff. Oh, you're

1271
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,440
probably gonna fight you on that, but I need, I

1272
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:34,400
do need to rewatch. So I think with Freddie, if

1273
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,400
you were to say so, I say, definitely Nightmare and

1274
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,039
elm Street add that, watch the first one and if

1275
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:42,280
you like them, oh yeah, I agree there. Yeah, Freddy

1276
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,159
versus Jason, that's another one, what I But I do

1277
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:45,840
think you kind of need some of the context of

1278
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,320
them all. But I think with Freddy, I can easily

1279
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,920
say first third, New Nightmare, and even Free versus Jason.

1280
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,760
But that's kind of a side tangent, right, Halloween and Jason,

1281
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,960
I have a tougher time saying that. I think those

1282
00:59:59,039 --> 01:00:02,400
go into a schlocky have a good time thing. Like

1283
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,320
even the first Friday thirteenth not really the greatest movie.

1284
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:09,119
I am in the camp that I think it's kind

1285
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:11,760
of sacrilegious for me to say, but I think from

1286
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,199
a film quality standpoint, I think it's missing a lot

1287
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:16,239
of stuff. It's missing some of the charm. But as

1288
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:19,360
a film start to finish, the remake for Friday thirteenth

1289
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:21,880
might be the best one. Where the remake for night

1290
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,239
Man Elm Street is the worst one in that series,

1291
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:30,960
even though Jackie Rohley is very underutilized as Freddy. Right so,

1292
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,599
and same thing so with Halloween. That's a tough thing

1293
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:37,320
because here we have some so I suppose it's Halloween.

1294
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,679
I would say the original twentyeen despite the other ones

1295
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,960
there in there, I like and I think I'm kind

1296
01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:46,719
of the same. I do really enjoy Halloween, for I

1297
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,639
think Halley, fuck, it's a little men. But how April,

1298
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,719
I'm gonna get to you got some hot takes going here.

1299
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,119
We've got three minutes. I don't have time to break

1300
01:00:55,159 --> 01:00:57,360
down all these hot takes. And I see Mike's there, Mike,

1301
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,639
I don't think that's a hot take. He's this hot

1302
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:02,880
take is the best John Carpenter, I don't think so.

1303
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,719
I have to watch the thing again. It's been a while,

1304
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:07,039
but I from what I remember, I don't think that's

1305
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:08,760
a hot take. I know you're saying that cause probably

1306
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,599
most people say Halloween, but I feel like the Thing

1307
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:15,599
might be better overall because a Halloween like, I think

1308
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:18,360
it's a great first act and a great don't get

1309
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,480
me wrong, it's all great. I give that a five. Five.

1310
01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:23,320
I'm saying, if you're looking at it versus the Thing,

1311
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,039
I think the middle, like the Act two just slogs

1312
01:01:27,079 --> 01:01:29,119
down a little bit where it just gets a little repetitive,

1313
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:32,840
and it's like, oh right, it's it's good. Where the Thing,

1314
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,719
I think there's always intrigued. But again, I have to

1315
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,119
rewatch it. It's been a long time, so maybe that's

1316
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:40,199
an excellent list. But with Halloween, I agree with S. Bubbs,

1317
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:43,519
where you could watch the original for sure, and then

1318
01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:46,400
twenty eighteen, which I do really enjoy, the rest of

1319
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,159
the series, which I watch again this year not as great,

1320
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,360
and even Halloween three or Halloween twenty eighteen, the third

1321
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,320
act some bad stuff starts to happen. So I think

1322
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,880
it's a really good legacy sequel. No, I think it's

1323
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,239
a good legacy sequel. I think the third act does

1324
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,320
really hurt it, but I think that's worth watching. And

1325
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,039
then to me, Halloween four, I think that's fun. Oh no,

1326
01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:08,519
I'm seeing No, I'm wrong too. I'm a huge fan.

1327
01:02:08,639 --> 01:02:12,360
To me, the best sequel in Halloween's Halloween h two.

1328
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,079
Oh I fucking love H two. Yeah, it's a little

1329
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:18,239
scream quoted where that's another one Scream put on the list.

1330
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,840
Just the original trilogy four I'm not like a huge

1331
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,559
fan of, and the new sequel trilogy. There's some pros

1332
01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:27,000
and cons, but I think Charlie definitely the original Scream

1333
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:29,719
trilogy you should knock off. But yeah, Halloween, I'm a

1334
01:02:29,719 --> 01:02:32,119
big resid or H two O fan, so I would

1335
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:35,320
say for Halloween. Watch that watch H two O, because

1336
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:36,960
you could literally watch H two oh, and you don't

1337
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,719
have to watch the other ones. It's like a legacy. See,

1338
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,719
it's like one of the first legacy sequels ever. And

1339
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,719
then I think that's kind of it, and I do

1340
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,639
have to end it. I hear though, But April you said, yeah,

1341
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,800
I agree with everybody here, Evil Dead, those are ones

1342
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,960
you should definitely put up. Especially with those Charlie, you

1343
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:59,320
get a whole variety of comedic movies, scary movies if

1344
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,559
you like orchard porn and not talking about very goryous movies.

1345
01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:05,639
Like there's a why variety. There's like almost parody with

1346
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,760
Evil the three. So I agree it of all of them.

1347
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,719
To me, I'm always gonna say nightmare. First, I'm gonna

1348
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,920
say scream, and then I'm going to say Evil Dead.

1349
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,920
I agreet them. You should get to Jason, but like

1350
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:19,280
you know, even then and Aprils is Halloween three, I

1351
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,840
didn't rewatch that not the biggest fan Halloween three. That's

1352
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,239
Halloween without Michael. But then she also said Jason X

1353
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:30,840
is the best f thirteen. I think I you can

1354
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,039
take a case for that in some places, but not

1355
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,199
to me. I think for comedic value, yes, you could

1356
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:38,840
Black Christmas. Yeah, that's a good one to be in there,

1357
01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:43,159
asps as real sickles hit the original Halloween, Halloeen H

1358
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:47,199
two and Resurrection line. I do not include Resurrection. I stop.

1359
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,000
And I even like Halloween two, so I could go

1360
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:52,719
Halleen one, two and h two. A resurrection does not

1361
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,599
exist for me. That's a bad movie. That there's it's

1362
01:03:55,599 --> 01:04:01,480
so funny they've tried to correct the they try to

1363
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:05,480
correct the lineage of those movies, right, like, let's fix

1364
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:10,440
like Halloween comes out, and then they make two, and

1365
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,000
then four and five because three does Michael Myers, and

1366
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:16,199
then they have the Curse of Michael Myers. And then

1367
01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:18,480
with h twelve they're like, we're gonna ignore all the

1368
01:04:18,519 --> 01:04:21,519
movies that aren't Halloween one and two. Okay, they do that,

1369
01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:23,880
they get to Resurrection and they screw up again there.

1370
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,079
So then Halloween twenty eighteen, which I hate, that's called that.

1371
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:29,119
It says, okay, well, let's ignore all of them except

1372
01:04:29,159 --> 01:04:32,079
the first one. There is like a perfect to me,

1373
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:34,880
if you were to somehow put all the movies together,

1374
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,079
a perfect timeline. But none of the timelines are perfect

1375
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:41,360
in itself right as it says, I love resurrection and

1376
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,519
a so bad it's good. But if you ignore it

1377
01:04:43,559 --> 01:04:46,480
the way LORI Dying part, Sorry, I fucking butchered that

1378
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,119
I love resurrection in a so bad it's good way.

1379
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,880
I agree with efforting, I can get there. If we're

1380
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,360
talking in fun sense then yes, or with Jason xamine

1381
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,360
it's good. Uh if you ignore the way LORI Dying

1382
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,280
part at the start, yeah, LORII Dying part is it's

1383
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,199
some bad stuff. And maybe I just boiled that for Charlie.

1384
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But like again, there's multiple timelines, so it doesn't matter.

1385
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Chris the Chucky is a great later Chucky sequel to

1386
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my favorite in the franchise, Chris was that the one

1387
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that went to Netflix when They're in the Asylum because

1388
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I thought I did not Yeah, I I did not

1389
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enjoy that one. Mike, I can't. I can't get with

1390
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,920
you that one. It's been a while. I think we

1391
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,719
did on Netflix and fail. I was not a fan

1392
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,119
of those, but uh, yeah, so Charlie. That's what I'd

1393
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:35,360
say is Nightmare, elm Street, Scream, Evil Dead, a couple

1394
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of Halloween movies. I think Jason, you should knock some

1395
01:05:37,719 --> 01:05:40,440
of them off, but those are you gotta watch and

1396
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,960
notes the one before Okay, then they had that one

1397
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,719
I think was bad, the Asylum one that was iffy.

1398
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,760
That was not a good one. But yeah, I think

1399
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with Jason, I'm not sure. If you're watching these alone,

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you probably have less fun of your watching them alone.

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01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:54,239
But if you're ever watching them with people, then get

1402
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:56,159
into the Friday thirteenth. But you should watch a couple.

1403
01:05:56,639 --> 01:06:00,480
I feel like Friday thirteenth. Watch the first one. I

1404
01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:06,599
would say one, two, four, and then the remake, but

1405
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,039
you should probably just watch them all. But there you go.

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That is travesty for today. That was fun. Like I said,

1407
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,920
send him more Halloween stuff. I love Tomas. Maybe we'll

1408
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,519
try to do the week of a how on Halloween episode.

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01:06:16,519 --> 01:06:18,760
But yeah, next next episode. Whenever I do record that,

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whether it's on Friday or next week, the main topic

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01:06:22,039 --> 01:06:24,239
will be Mike's question one of the day's, or at

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,039
least be a subtopic of the mount Rushmore of hor

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Directors in twenty first century. Thank you very much for

1414
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:32,079
tuning in to this episode. I promise you when I'm

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back next week it won't be boring. Oh hang on,

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01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:37,760
Charlie Randalls says, I've actually seen Evil dead on the screen,

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,639
but definitely gonna do Friday thirteen tonight. Yeah, do Nightmare first,

1418
01:06:40,639 --> 01:06:42,840
I'd say, because if you're just watching, if you have

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01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,639
a limited time, Nightmare is the one. I recommend. Friday's

1420
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:48,760
My Guy, But Friday thirteenth, Yeah, there's some fun ones

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,760
in there, Child's play, even the old child's play, I

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,840
would recommend the two. Is there any other slasher ones?

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01:06:57,719 --> 01:06:59,559
I'm not sure we'll return do, but we've give you

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01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,840
some homework now, Charlie. So there you go, I promising,

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hear from his next point,