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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka. Call it a podcast from the

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Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by

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Victor Chrysler Dods Jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you forgetting your pun on.

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the

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word about the pirate ship. Danny's been a while. I know, Hei, Gosh,

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you're there and here. I can't see you. No, I

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don't know what you do. I can't see you. I

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can't see the Buffalo bills anymore. I can't see them.

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We'll get into all that stuff because I know that

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you've been chopping at the bit. We didn't get to

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do the Kansas City game uh last week, which I'm

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sure you had some serious thoughts about how bad they

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sucked in that game. And we'll uh we'll hear all

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that coming up with you and Peter and Juice will

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be get on to tell us, uh what picks to

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pick for?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What are we week eleven?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Juice had a rough week last week. He sent

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me his picks. Wow, and I bet some money. Oh No,

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I lost like before one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a bad it was a weird, it

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was bad. It was a weekend. Yes, it was very strange,

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bad football weekend, very strange, a lot of bad football,

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particularly in Miami.

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Speaker 4: But we'll get to that later.

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Speaker 2: I am very excited about Uh. I like this, and

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I'm gonna have to really discipline myself and try to

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wait for the weekend or maybe Friday evening.

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Speaker 4: Well that's what the adderall is for.

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Speaker 2: To watch it well, to watch Uh. Sometimes I just go,

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I break right through serious animal comes. I'm like, you've

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already already. I can break through y adderall. Yeah, I've

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had a up at a lot so yeah. Well, like honestly, uh,

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today I had a lot of stuff to do and

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I did not sleep well last night at all, Like

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I was. I could not fall asleep. I don't think

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I fell asleep till three, and then my alarm went

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off at six thirty and I got up and I've

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been powered through ever since.

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Speaker 4: If you want to fall asleep, close your eyes and

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then just dart your eyes back. And yeah, that was

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as hard as you can, as long as you can.

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It wasn't working for me, yester, did you try it?

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Did you really try that the first time you're hearing this?

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Speaker 2: Now, I had heard this before, because one I think

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you've mentioned it, okay, and I think I had Usually

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I try to read or something like that. I just

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had a There's a lot that's happening that I'm waiting

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a little bit of time to talk about. But uh so,

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there's been.

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Speaker 4: Tried doing homework that always puts me to sleep when

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I was a kid.

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Speaker 2: No, I did not. And I have a lot right

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because now I'm coming up on crunch time.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, finals coming up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, finals, projects to just a lot.

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Speaker 4: I had a woman tell me today that she's leaving

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sales for three hundred thousand dollars a year job to

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go into mental health counseling.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 4: Yes, she think she's burned out from sales. She's been

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doing it for thirty years. Yeah, and she's been taking

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classes without her employer knowing, and that she is now

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going into mental health counseling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can see that. I mean, I think that you

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start to see the benefit of it. It can be rough.

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I can tell you that it can be a rough

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journey for yourself. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, rough?

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Speaker 2: Journey for your because.

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Speaker 4: You're discovering things about you as you're learning about everyone else.

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Speaker 2: You're discovering things about I'd be a wreck. No, not

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by OCD, not because I got that. I got that.

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I did an assessment. So you had to do a

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personality assessment and there was like three hundred and sixty

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five questions or something on there. And these tests are

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really really incredible because they even have a section where

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you're answering questions. You don't know this at the time,

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but it's like is this likely very likely? Unlike you

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know whatever, and you have to mark it in and

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a lot of it is to how accurately and honestly

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you're answering these questions, and they're like, what's that?

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Speaker 4: Is each question of a point value?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when you go back through and score it,

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scoring is like it it took two classes to finish

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the test and then and it so I think we

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took an hour and a half and an hour and

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a half another time, and then we did the scoring process.

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in my cohort are like, these young girls are going,

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oh my god, I came out like schizophrenic, and they go,

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what about what about you? And I said, I came

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out really normal, like no elevated anything, except for in

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the next level up from don't worry about this to hey,

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you may be a little bit concerned, especially if you're

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the upper end with anger. Not surprising, but this is

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over a lifetime of stuff that we're talking about too, right,

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and drinking, and so then what you have. You had

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to go back and write a report on the test,

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and you had to break down how it scored and

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what this is and each section and what these things

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mean and all that, and then do an analysis of

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the results and come up with a diagnosis. Is there

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a diagnosable anything here? You know, like people go, well,

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they're schizophrenic. Schizophrenia has a real you gotta have. You

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got to meet real criteria. Bipolar you got to meet

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certain criteria. Yes, it's like a month long thing.

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Speaker 4: So especially with those new drug commercials coming out.

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Speaker 2: Oh there's different right, and like iipolar and one bipolar two,

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and so people get all all twisted too. So I

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found it to be. I felt great after that. I

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was like yeah, and then and then said like slightly

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elevated levels of stress. I go, yeah, this is over

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a lifetime. I was married, I got molested. I mean,

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what are you talking about it?

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Speaker 4: Er?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, that way I got molested, married and

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molested again. God, anybody around Saint Patrick, say a couple

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of years ago the second time, fucking unrad.

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Speaker 4: No, Like when I used to go to the psychiatrist,

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the drug doctor, not the psychologist. You got to like

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take a score test first when you walk in, and

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they'd look at your points and go, okay, I'm gonna

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lot of it twenty sometimes I'd be in the fives.

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Speaker 2: Well, the tough part with that is any given day

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you're gonna feel differently. Oh yeah, And so you're trying

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to look for something that's going to be sustained accuracy,

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two weeks later to see do you score within at

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least five point range.

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Speaker 4: Of each other and consistently? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, they want

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to establish a baseline. Right, So listen, it's a mental

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health counsel. You you have to figure out yourself first

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before you can help anybody else. Is that part of

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the process.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know. I've heard that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that maybe, I mean it's probably good.

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Here's what I would say. You want to be aware

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of your blind spots, your prejudices, your biases, favor it

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is that you kind of just know, like, hey, I'm

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not great with this because I think it's overreaction and

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people are a little bit of whiny or whatever. So

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that's not my field, depending on what that is. But

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it is interesting because what I'm starting to say is

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I'm very excited because tonight the Eddie Murphy documentary drops

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on Netflix. Oh I've been waiting and waiting for this.

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Speaker 5: Taste, I've done so many different types of things.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, my neighbor.

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Speaker 1: You had that appointment, your destiny.

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Speaker 4: He changed the way we I remember that scene. Yes

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you too, Shrick, Shrick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it just looks great. It's called being Eddie,

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and I think of like people in that line of work,

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it's very hard to maintain a career. We see the

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guys with the longevity, the Harrison Ford's right, the guys

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that kind of made it and stayed but for comedy,

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especially you know, the vehicle can run out, stick becomes old.

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There's all this stuff. And Eddie Murphy didn't remember when

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we sent my grandmother to see Norbit. Yeah, and she

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reviewed it for us on the break room. Yeah, the

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late Agnes Dolan. But I was really interested in this

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and one of the big things, like I think the

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Post had a big article today going Eddie Murphy was

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so upset over David Spade's joke. I think it was

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nineteen ninety five when he was doing Spade in America.

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And here's a little bit of that. If you don't

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remember around.

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Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen stay in America with say.

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Speaker 6: Alright, good crowd, thanks for staying up. Okay, Well, I

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got a fan letter here from Indiana and I like

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to read it to you. It says, dear David, why

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are you such an idiot? Every time I see you,

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I want to punch you in the face. Sincerely, Danny Minton. Ps,

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why don't you ever do Hollywood minute anymore?

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Speaker 5: Look? Children, it's a falling star.

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Speaker 6: Make a wish it was.

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Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy did that Vampires in Brooklyn movie, Yes, And

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it had horrible reviews, and so he said he put

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Speaker 4: He goes, hey, look, children, uh a former SNL cast member. Yeah,

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and the first cast member I believe to host the show,

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which I'm sure went over real well with the rest

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing that's so strange. It is because

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I always thought, like, well, Eddie got his feelings hurt,

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and what a whiner, and why not just talk about that?

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he says is if there was a joke now about

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a former SNL cast member about how fucked up their

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career was, it would get shot down. Oh that's what

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he's saying. And he goes, it went through all those

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channels that a joke has to go through, and then

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it was on the air. He's like, no one stopped it.

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So he said, I wasn't like fuck David Spade. I

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was like fuck SNL, you know. And he said, that's

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why that's what you all think of me. Well, you're

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dirty motherfuckers, and that's why I didn't go back for years.

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Speaker 4: Lord Michael's allowed it. He stops with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a funny joke. It is because

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you've got I mean, I get it. You're you're trying

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to come up with the comedy on the spot. It's

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a little bit shocking, any of these shocking that you

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would roast one of your own.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, though you are a comic. This

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is what you do. If you could dish it out,

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you should be able to take it too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I like we had that rule of the breakroom. Man,

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if you can't laugh at yourself, then don't make fun

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Speaker 2: Right, But when you were one of the guys that

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made the show what it had become, like really carried

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and really it was the second generation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was young. I think he was nineteen

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when he joined the cast of 'sn L. I mean

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that that's a baby.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Remember when you were nineteen what we were doing it

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night Gosh, I was in college. Okay, I was an idiot. Yeah,

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I was in college. I got on the radio and

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I was doing that. I don't know. It's a funny

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thing because one of the things that I'm finding, and

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maybe it's something even in yourself as you sort of

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do self exploration, is I have a real problem with

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weak people and I think that a lot of people

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who have had trauma in their lives, and trauma could

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be at any level. But there are things that would

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be traumatic to somebody and maybe not to somebody else.

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Speaker 2: So I would say though a lot of those people

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do the classic avoidance of things, so when situations get sticky,

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they try to just kind of avoid having to talk

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about it, let it just die out and move on.

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point in my life, I go, that is such a weak,

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weak way to be as a human being. And I

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think that there are so many and I've experienced it

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with so many different people. When I look back, I go,

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relationships and things because people don't know how to communicate,

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or they're afraid of what the reaction was. Putting the

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reaction that they got in the past on the present

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doesn't mean it's going to happen, right, And that's where

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you got to go that stuff is bullshit. But there

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to be like genuinely honest with somebody. And there's a

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lot of salespeople in the world, wonderful salespeople, but salespeople

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are salespeople. And I will argue to the day I

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leave this planet that they can't turn it off. They're

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always selling you a line of complete and utter horseshit.

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I really do. I think people who are great at sales,

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they just they're selling in their lives all the time.

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is it's all about sales. But the ones that do

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it and and and can make a lot of money

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at it, they're real slick, and they have a way

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of manipulating in words and twists and stuff and I

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and when you step back from that, you go, man,

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that is such a fucked up human being. Own it.

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Make a fucking opinion. Here's what I'm starting to realize.

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Speaker 4: There used to be where people will go professional politicians.

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Speaker 2: Uh maybe, but I think that but most of it

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is I'm not sure about that with the.

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Speaker 4: Like voting politicians. But just in general, what.

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Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people is they don't

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know who they are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's off the top of my head

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right now.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a tough thing. I think when people

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don't know who they are, they wishy washy, they're over here.

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They can't really make a decision. They know that this

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doesn't feel right, they don't know how to confront it.

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They're not sure how to have a conversation, so they

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kind of just dance and it and and you look

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at that. I look at that now and I go, ooh,

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I have done that, And that's weak.

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Speaker 4: We've all done it.

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Speaker 2: That is really really really weak. That says so much

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about somebody. And especially then when you get someone who's

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in sales who's gonna try to be real quick on

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their it's like, WHOA, you're a I see what this is.

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It's smoking mirrors. You're full of shit. Yeah, you don't

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know who you are, but you're full of shit. That

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that much. We know even you know you're full of shit.

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And so I think those are some of the things.

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with the Edny thing, I thought he's full of shit

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for exactly what you're saying. But then when you look

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at it now and you go I wasn't mad at

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David Space because I always thought it was David Spain,

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Fuck you another comic ripping on me. You're a young

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kid who hasn't had the career I've had. You didn't

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get all the success I had by that point, you know,

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all the Beverly Hills cop movies were out. Yeah, I'm

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not sure if Coming to America was or was not.

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Speaker 4: I was out. Yeah. He had just done Boomerang before that. Okay,

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so Boomerang was also a bomb too, Okay, because I

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actually I dated a woman who dated Eddie Murphy and

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she was actually like in the movie he got cut.

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But I remember because the soundtrack at the time was

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bigger than the actual movie. It had two number one

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hits on it. But Boomerang was a disaster at the

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box office, right, And then I think he was in

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another one too at that time that really didn't go well.

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Then he did Vampire in Brooklyn, and all of a sudden,

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like people are considering him for kid movies at one point.

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I mean, eventually he did he did Shrek later on.

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It wasn't until he did The Nutty Professor that people

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started coming back around on him, and that was like

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ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, it takes a while sometimes for people because you

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get that little tarnish on you and then all of

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sudden you become a superstar gan and now Eddie Murphy

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is like, can do no wrong. But as they say

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in this documentary, number one movie, number one soundtrack or

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number one song, number one movie, number one stand up special,

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I think at the same time, that's absolutely incredible. So

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I'm excited to see this. I did think in that

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moment it was sort of weak of him not to

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address it. And now that I'm seeing and I go, oh,

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I get it. It was the whole show. It wasn't

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David spae It was the whole show. David could have

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done that one on one and the thing he probably

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would have confronted David this was I know the channels.

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I did this show, I created many many I was

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a star because of this show.

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Speaker 4: So now that you mentioned that documentary, Whi's coming out?

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Have you seen the John Candy documentary yet I did too.

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They're very parallel. Then if John had lived beyond forty three,

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he may have had that comeback that Eddie had. You

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gotta remember at the end of his career, they talked

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about how he was trying to carry everybody with them

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on his success, and it just was failure. After they said,

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you did a lot of turkeys. Well, I don't like

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to call them turkeys. He's such a nice guy. He

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didn't want to let anybody down.

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Speaker 2: You don't even remember that.

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Speaker 4: He did a cartoon called Camp Candy. He did a

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few other movies. There was one where he caught a

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knife with his hands, but there were yeah, like Uncle

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Buck and Home Alone were his last great movies, and

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he was just a side character in Home Alone. He's

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the unsung hero of all the characters in the movie.

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He got the mom home. But I mean, but goes

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back to the avoidance thing. He's sitting there, like smoking

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a cigarette. Ter his brother has a heart attack and

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he's drinking. He goes My brother doesn't take care of himself.

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But he goes back to his father, who died when

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he was five years old, and they never addressed it.

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The family never addressed it. And then his own kids,

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who were really young when he died. His son had

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to go back and investigate his father's life to figure

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out who his father was.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he died so young, well, he died forty three.

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But when the kid was so young too.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but even his father died when he was

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really young, right too. But the avoidance, they never talked

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about it. Had they maybe have talked about it, maybe

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he would have taken better care of himself age.

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Speaker 2: Possibly some of that stuff's genetica. I don't know. Uh, yeah,

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it's interesting. I thought that documentary was a little bit slow.

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I watched it over a series of days because I

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found it to be slower than I enjoyed. No, I

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liked it. I thought it was you know, it was great,

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and I thought that all the interviews were were very interesting.

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Speaker 4: I walked away from that like he had never left Candy. Yeah, yeah, like,

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oh my gosh, he was just a wonderful, wonderful guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the.

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Speaker 4: Things that he did and yet because but but he's

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trying to carry everybody else with him, and sometimes, like

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Bill Murray was saying, he goes, you could drag everybody

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kicking and screaming, but sometimes they don't want to come along,

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or they're not good enough to come along. And that

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was part of this. I could so I could see

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parallels between what you're describing with Eddie Murphy, John Canty

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and a lot of guys go through that. Then they

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have that career resurgeence like pulp fiction brought back the

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career John Travolta and made Samuel L. Jackson a star.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's true. All Right, we'll take a moment.

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Our friend Juice is on standby with Picks for weeks eleven.

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Speaker 4: He says he wasn't here last week when he wants

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to own his mistakes the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, he's got parting ways with with Brian Dable

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and maybe he'll be back in Buffalo. It may be

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a welcome thing to see him back up in the

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booth and Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I want to get Juice's thoughts on Dable because there's

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already talk obviously who's going to replace them, And there's

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some the Pickens are slim. Yeah yeah, but there's a

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couple of interesting names.

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick being one of them.

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Speaker 4: From possibly, but there's another one I think might actually

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be a better choice.

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Week eleven of the NFL season. Already the Bill's sitting

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at six and three, the Patriots at eight and two.

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Is that correct? A clear almost two games lead in

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the AFCs. Hey, look, there's a lot of football left

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to be played. That's all I'll say, although they do

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have the Jets this weekend tonight or tonight is it

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Thursday night? Yeah it is. It is a bit of

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a snooze fest, right, I'm not sure if I like

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that game.

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Speaker 4: Patriots had three big plays against Tampa Bay that put

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them over in that game. So like two big runs

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in a big touchdown pass. I mean, I think it's

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like Drake May hasn't been well protected, but he did

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all right. I mean he's been playing well. Yeah, he's

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playing well, don't get me wrong. I mean, but like

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they're finding ways to win games on the road, and

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Tampa Bay had a week off get to get ready

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for that. They still couldn't figure it out.

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Speaker 2: And here comes Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 4: Here, they're getting their they're angry, and they possibly could

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have Bucky Irving, Chris Godwin back and fight Avay. So meanwhile,

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the Bills their their injury list is getting longer. It's

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getting longer. Somebody may have said after Week one on

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the show.

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Speaker 2: The season is gonna be over. I mean it's over

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for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 4: Uh, well, you talk if you're talking about Super Bowl, Yes,

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it's over.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's just uh, I think it's kind

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of done.

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Speaker 4: I think they I have lowered my expectations to whatever

475
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happens happens, and I have countless reasons, which which we'll

476
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get into later.

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Speaker 2: Our friend Juice is here with some picks. Juice, the

478
00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:37,720
other guy who had a rough week your Giants, I

479
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don't know. I mean Jackson, I told you, I told you,

480
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I told you it was coming.

481
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Speaker 7: You know, there was there was no way he was

482
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going to last, uh next year, So they just they

483
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,640
cut the cord now and just said, why even bother

484
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hanging around?

485
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Speaker 8: And it's over.

486
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Speaker 4: For four double digit four double digit fourth quarter deafest.

487
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:02,400
It's that they gave up four double digit leads and

488
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,200
they gave up in the fourth quarter this year. The

489
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,359
odds of that happening to one team is one in

490
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sixty thousand.

491
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Speaker 8: Yes, I heard that.

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Speaker 7: Just I mean, the Giants in theory could be five

493
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and five if, say, if those games didn't go the

494
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way they did.

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Speaker 8: And that's why Davil is no longer with us, do.

496
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Speaker 2: You, uh, Jackson dark concussion? Yeah, yeah out.

497
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Speaker 8: And that's part of the reason too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Dave's was just he was reckless with him.

500
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Speaker 7: He was encouraging him to take on and with the Giants,

501
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,400
brass is saying, they're telling Jackson to tone it down

502
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,599
a little bit, like, don't take these guys on head

503
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on when you're running. Running's fine, but you got a

504
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slide more and he like refused to slide. He wants

505
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to like go, you know, take on these middle linebackers.

506
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And that's why he's gonna nix missed the next game

507
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and maybe one after that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they had the blue tent the entire state of

509
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New Jersey to keep them off the field.

510
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Speaker 2: Wow.

511
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Speaker 7: Oh, and then what came in. Russ came in and

512
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,400
he is just fucking horrible. He is so bad, so good,

513
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so he should never step on a football field again,

514
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unless it's too volunteer to mow the grass at his

515
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heights at his kids high school football field.

516
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Speaker 4: It's very rare that a national pundit who's not known

517
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for like taking shots, takes shots at a player. Scott

518
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:18,599
fan Pelt, who may be one of the nicest guys

519
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:21,480
in sports media, tweets out, mister limited.

520
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: Ah, that's funny because they don't like Russ.

521
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:26,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, Russ is like as a phony when the camera's

522
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,680
are the guy's a phony and it's coming back to roost. Mean, well,

523
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,319
there's James and Jamis Winston holding court in New Jersey

524
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,799
today talking about I think he's gonna start a Yes.

525
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Speaker 7: They announced that Mike Mike Kafkar already announced that Jamis

526
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is starting, which he's already making the right decisions right

527
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,480
right off the bat, which is awesome. I mean, that

528
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,720
just gives us some hope, some fun. It's just gonna

529
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,960
be fun having him out there slinging. He'll throw four

530
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touchdowns in three interceptions, but god damn it, he'll make

531
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it fun.

532
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Speaker 4: You'll have a chance to win, though.

533
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Speaker 2: Well it's the Giants Packers, which was a snap. Packers

534
00:25:57,079 --> 00:25:57,920
game was a snooze fan.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Jordan Love is as good as everybody says.

536
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: Don't either. I don't either. I never did. I don't

537
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,160
know why. I just never really did. Uh, Juice, who

538
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,359
do you like in some of these games? I mean,

539
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,720
last week there was some surprising blowouts along the way.

540
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Speaker 8: And we got we got smacked. I hit.

541
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Speaker 7: I know we didn't do the picks out here, which

542
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,440
I'm thankful for and nobody else. Didn't cost anybody else money.

543
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But I text in privately and told them what we

544
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,319
were playing, and we lost every single one.

545
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Speaker 8: We got absolutely whacked.

546
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Speaker 2: All right, you're not. I can't win all of them,

547
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and that's part of the Actually.

548
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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 7: Took ten weeks to have our first losing week, so

550
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I'm okay with that. And we went ten nine weeks,

551
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,960
you know, in the in the black, and now we

552
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,960
finally go red. So that's all right, no problem. But

553
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,599
as I tell my friends, we're beat but not beaten.

554
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,160
We're going to be back this week.

555
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Speaker 2: Okay, give me a We'll start with the Bucks and

556
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,720
the Bills only because here's what's interesting about this. You've

557
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,519
got two quarterbacks drafted in twenty eighteen who have taken

558
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,720
very different journeys in the NFL. Josh Allen has been

559
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:10,400
only in Buffalo. Hopefully he'll stay only in Buffalo. You

560
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:14,079
have Baker Mayfield who went Cleveland and then from Cleveland

561
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:17,480
to the Panthers, from the Panthers to the Rams, from

562
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the Rams to the Bucks. Right, I think that's the trajectory.

563
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,640
That's like four teams in eight years. So it seems

564
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,400
like a lot, and he seems to have found a

565
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,960
landing spot. I'm not so sure I'm sold on Baker Mayfield.

566
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,319
Being an elite quarterback, he seems like a lot of

567
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,880
times he has to hop up as he's throwing the

568
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,640
ball to get it over the line. I don't know why.

569
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,799
And he's not that little.

570
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Speaker 4: It's just that he's six foot yeah.

571
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:49,559
Speaker 2: Well that's short five inches, yeah, but how do you

572
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,039
But yet he has a will to win. There is

573
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,680
a tenacity about this guy. I mean, you feel like

574
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you have him on your side, You've always got a

575
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shot in the game. So I'm not I'm not feeling

576
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,160
great about this, to be quite honest, with the Bucks

577
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and the Bills.

578
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Speaker 7: No, I think what's gonna help the Bills, unfortunately, is

579
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the loss. I don't see them losing two in a row.

580
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So Allen's gonna be hungry and they're gonna get this

581
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win on Sunday. I just don't see them losing again.

582
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,480
The weather is gonna be shitty, it's gonna be rainy,

583
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,160
so the Bills have got to run now. Also, unfortunately,

584
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,440
Tampa's run defense is pretty good, so the Bills are

585
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,160
gonna have to They're gonna have to grind this out.

586
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,759
But overall, I think with the weather conditions, I think

587
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:32,720
it's favors to Buffalo, and then I think the Buffalo

588
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,319
will get the win, and what is it? I think

589
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,039
five and a half. So I'm probably not staying away

590
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:40,079
from that, or I am staying away from that. I

591
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,920
look to maybe take the Bills live, you know, get it,

592
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,359
maybe under a field goal or something.

593
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: But I don't.

594
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Speaker 8: I don't like the I don't like five and a

595
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half points.

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00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,519
Speaker 9: All right, I don't either. No, No, if I'm taking

597
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:54,559
Tampa Bay this one to cover, yes, to cover. Okay,

598
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,839
They're definitely not beating Houston the week after. I'm telling

599
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,279
you that right now, Buffalo. But that's another story from me.

600
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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows they're not.

601
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,839
Speaker 4: Going to Houston beating Houston in three days? No, they're not.

602
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: Uh, Chiefs Broncos, Chiefs really Okay, Dandy Reid go ahead.

603
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 7: Off of by huge the Broncos last Thursday against the Raiders.

604
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Speaker 8: That was another snooze fest. They were that was so.

605
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Speaker 7: Bad they barely won that game. That game was fucking horrible.

606
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,599
I think the Chiefs come in there and get right,

607
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,240
They're they're gonna they're gonna smack them around. I'm Chiefs

608
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,359
minus four. That's our first, that's our first played the week.

609
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Speaker 4: Usually quarterbacks take a step forward to their sophomore year. Yeah,

610
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:38,160
he's actually like the regress his request. He does not

611
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:41,559
look good. His decision making is it's like he's playing scared,

612
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,160
like he doesn't want to tick off Sean Payton.

613
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Sean Payton. I I have not heard nice

614
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,319
things about Sean Payton in his personal life.

615
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 4: Oh, I think that.

616
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Speaker 7: I think the Chiefs know that that division is, you know,

617
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,680
that in reach for them. Uh, they haven't played the

618
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,119
Broncos yet, so they're gonna knock them off twice and

619
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,559
get in. I think the Chargers are on the decline

620
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:08,480
with their offensive line. So I still think the Chiefs

621
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,920
went at division and I think that run that they

622
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,359
start starts on Sunday.

623
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: All right.

624
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: Uh, Danny says the Texans are good.

625
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,559
Speaker 3: Give me some time.

626
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,359
Speaker 4: They're good. I say they're gonna beat the Bills because

627
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:20,039
it's a Thursday night game. I didn't say they're good.

628
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:22,920
They they shot their load like last week coming back

629
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,559
against James.

630
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: Goodness. Uh, Texans, give me some locks of the week.

631
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,799
What do you got a game?

632
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:34,559
Speaker 7: Speaking of Houston, We're gonna take them minus seven against

633
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:35,799
the Tennessee Titans.

634
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 8: Now, the player is the league's best.

635
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,039
Speaker 7: Defense versus the league's worst offense, and I'm gonna go

636
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:44,680
defense every time.

637
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,279
Speaker 8: Okay, Yes, Davis Mills is starting.

638
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 6: C J.

639
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,319
Speaker 7: Stroud is out, which you know gives me a little

640
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:53,759
bit of pause. But I still don't see Tennessee doing

641
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:58,039
anything in this game. Uh, And I think that Houston

642
00:30:58,079 --> 00:30:59,960
will do enough to cover. I mean, even if it's

643
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,119
ten three or seventeen seven or something, it's gonna be

644
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,079
low scoring. It's gonna be ugly, but Houston will win

645
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,160
by seven or more points.

646
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:13,039
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I like that. You know what's another one?

647
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 8: You got another big game which is actually.

648
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,119
Speaker 7: Potentially game of the game of the year so far.

649
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:24,440
You got the Rams versus the Seahawks.

650
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,559
Speaker 8: Awesome game.

651
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,359
Speaker 2: Yes as well, Rams great.

652
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,559
Speaker 4: Seattle is the sneakiest best team in the NFL. The

653
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:32,759
games are very close.

654
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

655
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,279
Speaker 7: Got to remember who Seattle has at quarterback, and that's

656
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,279
Sam Donald and he has not really won a big

657
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:41,000
game yet.

658
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 8: This is a big game.

659
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,359
Speaker 7: For him, and I just I've taken the Rams minus

660
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,240
three in this all day. I just think, well, he

661
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,480
hasn't really had that game yet, and I think we're

662
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,559
going to see that Sunday.

663
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: Well, that game at the end of the season last

664
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:58,160
year when Minnesota went to Detroit on a Sunday night, right,

665
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,680
and that was Sam Donald's like maker break game. If

666
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,839
he wins that game, he's probably still the quarterback of

667
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:03,400
the Vikings.

668
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he loses out with.

669
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: The injured kid McCarthy. So now so he's in Seattle

670
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,119
and uh yeah, he's all world.

671
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:15,359
Speaker 2: They are looking good. I mean, it's unbelievable, man, I

672
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:17,960
think they did. They have how many points in the

673
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,680
first quarter?

674
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,799
Speaker 4: There's like twenty eight different I thought it was. They

675
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:24,039
had two defensive touchdowns Trip Sacks. I thought it was twenty.

676
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:27,319
Speaker 2: Not It's like I see it come across by phone.

677
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,240
I'm not even turning it.

678
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:28,359
Speaker 5: Not.

679
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:30,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that. But the Rams look

680
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:32,599
so good the other night, and that was a battle

681
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,440
between the forty nine ers and the Rams. But the

682
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,200
Rams look look good. And man, who would have thought

683
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,799
Stafford all those years in Detroit you looked at him

684
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:44,680
and went yeah.

685
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,799
Speaker 7: And I mean he is right now if you look,

686
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,319
he's the MVP Odds favorite Matt Stafford, is it? So

687
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,680
this is a huge game for him, and it's this

688
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,720
could put him if he wins this game, I think

689
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,720
he's exactly at five hundred for his career wins and losses,

690
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,559
and this game will put him over five hundred Sunday

691
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:02,680
because he was on so many you wouldn't think that,

692
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,960
but he was on so many.

693
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,039
Speaker 4: Yes, crazy, I think he was the last rookie quarterback

694
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:12,519
to get a big contract before they before they added

695
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,759
a rookie cap. Yeah, right before the lockout, but yeah,

696
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,640
he was. He was the one who said that huge

697
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,160
deal Detroit and that nothing happened.

698
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:22,759
Speaker 2: That's a four oh five game, I assume on Foxy

699
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:26,400
Game of the Week. Uh, and it'll be a West

700
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,160
coast game, so if there you happen to be traveling

701
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,440
on the West coast, you get to see that one

702
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,839
at about one o'clock West Coast time.

703
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,079
Speaker 5: Yeah.

704
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,519
Speaker 2: That's nice, that's pretty I like that. What else you.

705
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 8: Got all the game?

706
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:39,599
Speaker 2: We're taken.

707
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 7: We're gonna take the Jaguiars plus three at home against

708
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,920
the banged up Los Angeles Chargers. And this is strictly

709
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,480
from Yes, I know the Chargers look good Sunday night

710
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,920
beating the Steelers, but I think that offensive line is

711
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,680
just too banged up and justin Herbert has got to

712
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,759
get the ball quick rid so fast that he's gonna

713
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,839
have no time in this. And the Jags had to

714
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,360
melt down Sunday against the Tech since so I think

715
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,800
they bounced back here at home. Will take the Jags

716
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,639
plus three at home for that one?

717
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: All right?

718
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:15,679
Speaker 8: And what do you think of that?

719
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,159
Speaker 2: You like that?

720
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 4: Actually? That's that's that's an interesting bet. That's an interesting

721
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,400
bet because they just had the huge letdown in the

722
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,920
fourth quarter against Houston, so and they just beat Pittsburgh

723
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,159
at home, but they are banged up. Yeah, I mean

724
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,280
that that that is a curious bet. So I may

725
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,599
take that.

726
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I like it.

727
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,159
Speaker 4: Now when on coming to the East Coast to who's

728
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,199
coming Chargers.

729
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:39,079
Speaker 7: Coast team come to the East Coast? Is that one o'clock?

730
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: That is.

731
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,519
Speaker 8: So it's you know, essentially a ten o'clock.

732
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not even rested up enough. I like it.

733
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:54,360
Do we lose them? I heard him get digitized?

734
00:34:55,119 --> 00:35:01,039
Speaker 10: Is that what that means? Take got to bring back juice?

735
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,239
Hey Froze, I get in the cruggle of death. Wait

736
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,119
he just there there you are? There?

737
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:09,599
Speaker 8: You sorry?

738
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: That your fault.

739
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,679
Speaker 8: I don't know what happen Sienna. The Jerry mac namara

740
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,519
led Sienna.

741
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,199
Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's what I got.

742
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:20,119
Speaker 2: He's their coach over there.

743
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 4: Watch you might become the head coach of Syracuse.

744
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: He's only across the street. Sienna's Albany, Albany, It's just

745
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,920
down the throughway. I was thinking of what was I

746
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,400
thinking of? What's the lamo?

747
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: They were the same colors they do, don't they? Dolphins?

748
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,639
You have the green gold?

749
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,039
Speaker 2: Because my kid got the Lemoyne Scholarship when he was

750
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:41,719
at mccuaid and goes, I'm not going there.

751
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,039
Speaker 8: Good choice.

752
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,199
Speaker 4: It was a junior. How many dolphins.

753
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 2: It was a big deal because it was a big

754
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,559
deal because you know, you get this thing. Hey, hey

755
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,000
he won the one who's like fifty thousand dollars to

756
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,000
go toward college. He was I'm not going there. And

757
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,960
I remember my in laws being like, what are you

758
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,880
talking about? And they're looking at me and I go,

759
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,000
that's fine, No, I didn't.

760
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:10,039
Speaker 4: I just joke. I'm joking.

761
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: You have no idea.

762
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,199
Speaker 4: I'm sure, all right, juice?

763
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:15,159
Speaker 2: What else? What else?

764
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,079
Speaker 8: We got?

765
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 7: One more game we're going to. This is gonna sound ugly,

766
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,119
but it's the right play. We're going to Cleveland Browns.

767
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,079
Speaker 2: Stop it, stop it at.

768
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,079
Speaker 8: Home against the Baltimore.

769
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 4: Race stops Funny. Those divisional games are weird between those

770
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:31,960
two games.

771
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: But do you think they're.

772
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 7: Gonna cover Cleveland? Cleveland at home? That defense?

773
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 8: Defense is different.

774
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:42,519
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett looks nasty.

775
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 4: Do you know why they lost to the Jets because

776
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,880
the kick off returning a punt? Yeah?

777
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Miles, didn't you have a great game?

778
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,119
Speaker 3: Yeah?

779
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:50,039
Speaker 4: He was fantastic.

780
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean you're right, that could be something

781
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,320
against the Ravens. I just I looked at that and

782
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,079
I was like, well, I'm not touching that one. But

783
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,480
you're saying take take the Browns to cover. Yes, okay, So.

784
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,519
Speaker 8: Those games are close.

785
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,199
Speaker 7: They always play him close, and they're gonna be some

786
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,960
shitty weather there. I don't think Jackson, Uh, they're gonna

787
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,679
he's still kind of nursing. He didn't practice today. I

788
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:16,320
think there he's still not gonna have that explosion with

789
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,320
his hamstring. So I think they're gonna do just enough

790
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,519
to live by and get to win the Ravens. So

791
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:24,519
I think they will hang around here for sure.

792
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:25,599
Speaker 2: All Right. I like it.

793
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 11: I like it juice train than the Lock of Sunday

794
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:39,800
the Lock of the Week Skull Viking minus three at

795
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,679
home against the Chicago Bears.

796
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,079
Speaker 8: The Bears have had some lucky wins the.

797
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: Last two weeks.

798
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,159
Speaker 7: I think it's time for some regression. They are actually

799
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,360
negative point differential in all their games. They've actually scored

800
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,360
less points than their opponents. But the games they've won,

801
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,840
they've won. So we're gonna take the Vikings at home

802
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:06,639
against the Chicago Bears as the lock of Week eleven.

803
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 4: All right, I like it a ten dollars bet with

804
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,119
those games, yes, sir, so a ten dollars bet. You

805
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,320
take the Jags or plus three, the Bucks plus five

806
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,000
and a half, the Vikings minus three, the Checksans minus

807
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,960
six and a half, and the Rams minus three, and

808
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,440
the Chiefs minus three and a half the Browns plus

809
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,360
seven and a half. If you put down ten dollars

810
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,800
at all those games, which you could also bet individually

811
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,199
on Faddel, you'll win eight hundred and ninety dollars.

812
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: Damn.

813
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: That's a nice little Christmas punch.

814
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah right, right, little Chris dinner, and then you go

815
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,320
to mere Bau and that have your own have your

816
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,840
own tab.

817
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 8: It's a bounce back. Week. Last week was just putrid.

818
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,079
So we're back for sure, all right.

819
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: Well, good juice. I would never say putrid at all.

820
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:52,280
I think you're doing a hell of a job. And

821
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,559
you know, sometimes you win some, you lose some, but

822
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:57,599
you went ten weeks with a winning record. Amen. No

823
00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:00,760
one thought the Bills were losing last week. No, no,

824
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,719
and not even.

825
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:05,679
Speaker 7: I took him twice live when they were down thirteen

826
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:07,800
to nothing. I popped up my phone. Let me see

827
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,679
what the line is. The money line was plus one

828
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,519
oh five. So I'm like, dude, this is like the Bills.

829
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:14,440
They're only down thirteen. That's two touchdowns.

830
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,199
Speaker 2: They can get that map, no problem.

831
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, so we we we bit that and not not

832
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:20,599
not Sunday was bad.

833
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,519
Speaker 8: Sunday we got we got kicked in. That's all right though,

834
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,400
That is all right.

835
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 4: Go ask him about the Giants who think is gonna

836
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,119
be the next head coach?

837
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,199
Speaker 2: Yes, Danny's been very excited about this. He has somebody mind.

838
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:32,079
Speaker 7: Two days after they do something like this, you you

839
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:35,360
hear every fucking name come out of uh come out

840
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,719
of everybody. Every I've heard every name except Dan Bates

841
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,679
from McQuaid football be the head coach I heard.

842
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:43,199
Speaker 4: He's gonna be the quality control guy. I don't know

843
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:45,400
if you heard that, so I don't know.

844
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,679
Speaker 7: I you don't know what to believe. I mean, you

845
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,559
know how badly are they searching right now?

846
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 5: You know?

847
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,039
Speaker 7: Uh, Mike McCarthy Freeman from Notre Dame, I heard that

848
00:39:56,079 --> 00:40:00,320
one too. I mean, honestly, I save no clue route

849
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,280
they're going to go. And honestly, I don't care. I

850
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,480
just I just want to start winning again. I want

851
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,760
the Giants. The Giants have players in place, they have

852
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,199
their quarterback, they have young nucleus of guys. We just

853
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,880
need to start winning. So I don't I don't care

854
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,079
who it is, just make the right call.

855
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:15,559
Speaker 3: Who.

856
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 8: I mean, the last ten years is not sustainable.

857
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: What do you like?

858
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: I would love save him if I was. But the

859
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,159
problem is he's in his seventies. He's in his seventies, right,

860
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:26,639
So like, if they, if they, Here's so. So here's

861
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:29,199
what Albert Breer threw out with Connor or today, and

862
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,719
this is actually kind of fascinating. Bill Belichick has always

863
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:37,840
loved the Giants, loves the merits right, but his reputations

864
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,280
taking a huge hit. No one wants to hand him

865
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,559
the Keys. So the idea this is kind of this

866
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:44,800
is just just somebody Connor or goes. I would just

867
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,599
quit my job at s I and just go and

868
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:48,760
sign up to cover the Giants if they made this happen,

869
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:51,800
if Belichick became the head coach, or if Saved became

870
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,480
the head coach and brought Belichick a long to be

871
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,519
his defensive coordinator, just for the heck of it. Now,

872
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:57,880
it's ridiculous. It's a pipe dream, sure.

873
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,039
Speaker 2: But you're talking about like I think for I'm looking

874
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,760
at this and I would go Nick Saban. Nick Saban

875
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,079
was very, very disciplined. Yes, I feel like professional guys

876
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,199
today aren't going to respond that well to that.

877
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 8: Miami with that, Yeah, he didn't even last the season

878
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,639
in Miami.

879
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: He last two years, and he had a winning record

880
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:22,000
both seasons, but just with Dante Culpepper as his quarterback.

881
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,360
But he treated his players like like like Coughlin used to.

882
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,159
Speaker 2: Yes. And then on top of that, I look at

883
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:36,719
the I look at uh Belichick in the college ranks,

884
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,880
and he's not doing what Saban did because you're coming

885
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,519
from a different thing, and I don't know he's distracted.

886
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:46,559
So but I could see either one of those guys together,

887
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,920
that would be hilarious front page news, right. Oh, absolutely absolutely.

888
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,199
Speaker 4: But I mean I think that they're probably gonna go

889
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,880
with Clint, somebody like Clint Kubiak. I mean, there's not

890
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,880
a lot of great there's.

891
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:01,159
Speaker 2: Not a lot of great coaching choices, all right, Well.

892
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,519
Speaker 7: Or or the Packers defensive coordinator. Right now, he's a

893
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:08,719
he's a Rutgers guy, a Jersey guy. So I think

894
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,039
Jeff Hafley. I mean, if I had to pick, maybe him. Uh,

895
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:13,719
But honestly, I have no clue.

896
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,639
Speaker 4: Did he come out of Boston College too? Okay, So

897
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:19,519
there's a lot of Boston College guys running the Giants,

898
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:20,960
So that's why they like.

899
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: Half Okay, that's a good point. Uh, juice always good stuff.

900
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,119
We'll see how it goes.

901
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:29,079
Speaker 8: Can I address one thing before I leave?

902
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:29,559
Speaker 2: Sure?

903
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 7: Before I came on here, Danny, did I hear this correctly?

904
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,880
Are you Eskimo brothers with Eddie Murphy?

905
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:37,519
Speaker 2: No? I never.

906
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: I dated No, no.

907
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 8: No, No, that's that's insane. Dated Eddie Murphy.

908
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,559
Speaker 4: I dated a woman. I didn't have relations, but I

909
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:50,440
dated a woman. I dated a woman means you have

910
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,800
no that did not happen.

911
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,079
Speaker 2: All right. Well, I've had relations and not dated, so

912
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:56,800
that's pretty good.

913
00:42:58,039 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 4: But I dated a woman who dated that Murphy.

914
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.

915
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 8: She was a model for the forty.

916
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: What's that? Yeah? Oh god, all right, Deuice. Always good.

917
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:15,480
We'll talk to you next week. We will take a moment.

918
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:19,440
Our friend, Uh, Peter Montemerno joins us. Oh, lots of things.

919
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:19,960
What's that is?

920
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:20,679
Speaker 4: By phone?

921
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: No, he's right here. I'm looking at him.

922
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,519
Speaker 4: Oh okay, because.

923
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,679
Speaker 2: I don't know only he's somewhere fancy. It looks like

924
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:30,679
the fancy hotel bar. I can't tell what he's at,

925
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,519
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00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,760
from ten am to seven pm. They'll bring the goods

945
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,199
right to your door and no judgment if you're in

946
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,719
their pajamas, So to yourself a favor. Head over to

947
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,559
MJ Dispensary nine Hundre, Jefferson Road, Sweet nine Ozer two

948
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:43,519
and Henrietta, or check them out online at MJ Dispensary

949
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:47,239
five eight five dot com. Connorson Ferris handles workers comp,

950
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,960
social security, disability and personal injury cases. Listen, I get it.

951
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:55,639
Workers' comp claims can be a real pain, but Connors

952
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:59,079
and Ferris are here to fight for you and get

953
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:02,679
you the compens you deserve, whether you threw out your

954
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,719
back on the job, slipped when you should a grip,

955
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:09,079
or your boss thinks overtime means free labor. Spoiler, it doesn't.

956
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,360
They've got your back. At Connors and Ferris, with offices

957
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,800
in New York City, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo, they're the

958
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,760
go to team for getting the compensation you deserve. No gimmicks,

959
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,360
no nonsense, just real results. Call Connors and Ferris two

960
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:30,000
six to two comp. That's two six two comp for Connors.

961
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:46,159
Speaker 3: And Ferris breakfast tab.

962
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,559
Speaker 2: Come on sing it you know you want you know

963
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:50,119
you want to.

964
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 4: I saw it, I heard the brat, I heard this

965
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,719
song on the way in the first debut.

966
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: In this is it's their birthday today.

967
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,079
Speaker 4: Pirl Chance. Yes, it's also Neil Young's idioth birth though.

968
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: Yes, we viewed this song at.

969
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:09,119
Speaker 4: The Neil Young is also my father's birthday. Actually, you

970
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:14,719
would have had seventy eight, but or seventy seven. This

971
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,639
song was debut at the Bridge School benefit after they

972
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:20,360
came out with ten Versus hadn't even come out yet. Yeah,

973
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,239
a debut today at that benefit.

974
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: Why don't we get right to our friend Peter because

975
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,199
he is, Uh, it's some fancy. I don't know where

976
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,440
he is. He's a fancy. He had a work event, Peter,

977
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:35,280
where are you? It's all famous work.

978
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 5: It's actually it's actually a nice place in Charlotte's called Puttery.

979
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 12: It's an indoor you know, putt put but it's very

980
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:49,760
posh bar restaurant. It's very kind sp it's right laid

981
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,639
back and yeah, people have work events here and it's

982
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:54,199
team building and all that stuff.

983
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: Very good. I like it. I like it, Peter. I

984
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:03,639
can't to hear the thoughts on the Buffalo Bills. I

985
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:10,199
thought the offense looked inept. I thought Josh Allen probably

986
00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:12,480
had one of his worst games ever. But at some

987
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:18,119
points you go the receiving court, nobody's getting separation, and

988
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:22,920
there's there is your problem. Josh pulled out. I mean

989
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,599
that one play where he went around and around and

990
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:30,360
you're it's so exciting and any connects right, and who's

991
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,360
the best receiver they have Dalton Kincaid Right now, I

992
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,079
think it is. And then afterwards and maybe I'm jumping

993
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:41,360
the gun here, but then it didn't come out. Afterwards.

994
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:44,760
I happened to be in the studio here and then

995
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,880
going to watch just the first half of the game

996
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,320
while I drank ginger, all I just want you to know, yeah,

997
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,559
oh yeah, I know. It's a whole new me I'm

998
00:47:55,639 --> 00:48:00,679
watching and it's the local CBS affiliate does a regional

999
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:07,320
Bill's thing before CBS NFL today, Right, So they're talking

1000
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:13,840
and they're talking very, very enthusiastically that Brandon Bean had

1001
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,400
seemed to go all in on trying to get that

1002
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:20,280
receiver that we need, the missing piece that was the thing,

1003
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,960
and he seemed to go all in. And you know,

1004
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:25,559
Bill's mafia, we want you. He hears you. He know

1005
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,360
they know they're thinking the same thing you're thinking. They

1006
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,960
really wanted it, and it was who was a Jaden Waddle? Yeah,

1007
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:34,920
Jayden Wattle. So they thought this was all going to

1008
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,480
go down and you're hearing about it, and then Waddle

1009
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:41,119
seems to scorch them a few times on the field.

1010
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:44,519
But from what I'm understanding, and this is where people

1011
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,920
started going, well, then this guy needs to be fired.

1012
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,159
Brandon Bean. They wanted a twenty twenty six first round

1013
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,280
draft pick and he said, no, I'll give you a

1014
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,960
twenty twenty seven. I don't know if that's true. Again,

1015
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,760
I always say to people, I go, I wasn't in

1016
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,159
the meeting. I don't know who knows, like somebody could be.

1017
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 5: Who leaked at and why is it leaked exactly?

1018
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 4: That's thank you, thank you, and.

1019
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,679
Speaker 5: Why was it leaked?

1020
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,079
Speaker 3: Right?

1021
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:11,159
Speaker 2: But so it gets out there, so now everybody's like, well,

1022
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:13,960
you're just wasting Josh Allen. And if this is true,

1023
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,960
why wouldn't you try to win? Right now? You're off

1024
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,079
to a pretty decent start at six and two, and

1025
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,960
here we go. I don't know what. I'm sure both

1026
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:25,920
you and Danny have maybe seen more, read more, or

1027
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,039
dug a little deeper into that story. I'm not sure I.

1028
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 12: Haven't dug a little deeper into that if I can

1029
00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:37,480
rewind for a second. Sure I watched somebody all twenty two,

1030
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:41,880
not all because it's two frustrated, but I will tell

1031
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,719
you that Josh Allen made some pretty big errors. Oh yeah,

1032
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,280
yeah on Sunday, Yeah, was wide open and he just

1033
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,599
overthrew him or he underthrew them.

1034
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 5: It was a sideline round was a touchdown.

1035
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,119
Speaker 12: Now, granted it was like Miami's fourth string cornerback, but

1036
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:02,039
he was still open. There was another play where Dawson,

1037
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:06,280
Knox still open. Nothing in Josh Allen. Josh Allen's sightline

1038
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,440
at all, Knox was wide open. He was the first

1039
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,039
progression in the route. Yet he checks down to the

1040
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:14,920
fourth progression in.

1041
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 5: So Johnson.

1042
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 12: I think it was Johnson Johnson, No, yeah, no, not

1043
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,360
Ty Johnson, the other one.

1044
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, even whoever was still got fifteen yards on the play.

1045
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,159
Speaker 12: But the question is, why wouldn't you throw your first

1046
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:30,840
progression that would have given you fifteen yards in the air,

1047
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,159
not five yards in ten yards after to catch. I

1048
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,559
don't know what happened. I mean, I'm not in the film.

1049
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,599
I'm not in their helmet. But gracious, there's some things

1050
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:43,079
that are going on right now where no one knows,

1051
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:46,920
no one knows which way is up, and it's it's really,

1052
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,639
it's really concerning. Throwing into the Tampa Bay game coming

1053
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,000
on the heels of a great Kansas City outing, right,

1054
00:50:55,079 --> 00:50:55,920
they looked like that?

1055
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought the Kansas City outing looked really good.

1056
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,719
I got nervous at the end of the game, but

1057
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,239
because of Kansas City. But I thought they overall looked

1058
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,519
pretty good. I did say to Danny before I go,

1059
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:09,519
I'm sure you thought they had some awful moments in

1060
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:11,480
that game, but I don't know, I thought they looked

1061
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,960
pretty good. Well they did, yeah, but.

1062
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: They also took the ball away three times and only

1063
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,760
won by a touchdown at the end of that one.

1064
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,840
I mean, so it's like Kansas City, like on autopilot,

1065
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,440
could give the Bills at their best game, right, and

1066
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,360
then the Bills, Oh, yeah, so we just beat the Chiefs,

1067
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:29,880
so we can put it on cruise control against Miami, right,

1068
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,960
and then Allen after the game that you know they

1069
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,239
wanted more than us, well why, I mean, their their

1070
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,480
general managers just got fired. There were guys that were

1071
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:40,280
rumored to be traded. Other guys did get traded. Your

1072
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,559
head coaches, like, is the Walking dead right now? They

1073
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:47,039
call a time out before the game even starts to

1074
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,760
dispute an off sides call, and yeah, so they're starting

1075
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,280
the game with two timeouts in the first half and

1076
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,519
they can't even they can't even get it right, could.

1077
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: Get right.

1078
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 5: Based upon what it's up for opinion, and it's up

1079
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:02,480
for discussion.

1080
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:06,119
Speaker 12: But in the press conference on the back end of

1081
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:11,599
the game, when McDermott was asked, your general manager said,

1082
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:13,239
you have a championship roster.

1083
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 5: Do you have a championship roster answer? I love these players.

1084
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:19,639
Speaker 2: Oh that is.

1085
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 4: When the head coach starts equivocating in a press conference,

1086
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,119
that is not an answer.

1087
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 5: It I love these players, that's it, and that's it.

1088
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 12: He stopped short, he did pontificate, he died to coach speak,

1089
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,480
he stopped.

1090
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 5: I love these players. End of answer.

1091
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 12: So there's something going on inside when Bill's drive that

1092
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:47,480
is penetrating this team's enthusiasm, their drive. I said weeks

1093
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:54,400
ago after the Panthers game, intentionally watching the sideline during

1094
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,320
the game. Forget about the game, it's forty to nine, great.

1095
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,000
I wanted to see how they acted on the sidelin

1096
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,800
and it gave me concern that that, and I even

1097
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,440
talked about it here on Billified, gave me concern that week.

1098
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:09,800
There's no emotional leader, there's no one walking around the sideline.

1099
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:12,119
Your head coach doesn't go up to the offensive side.

1100
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 5: Of the bench.

1101
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 12: Ever's there's something that's going on within that team right

1102
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,480
now that I don't know if they could find their

1103
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:19,920
way out of.

1104
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 5: And everybody's talk about it, they're gonna make the playoffs.

1105
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,480
I don't know.

1106
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:24,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know either.

1107
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1108
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: I think we're at JIMA playoffs point. Yeah, and I

1109
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,039
said this three weeks ago.

1110
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 5: You did.

1111
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:35,519
Speaker 12: We've been talking since everybody's we have been talking on

1112
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:40,400
this show for weeks. We've been pointing out the deficiencies.

1113
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:43,559
No one wants to listen until it happens. Right, Oh,

1114
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,000
there it is. It's been there all year.

1115
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really did. I mean it looked ugly.

1116
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:52,519
Speaker 4: It looked I watched the game again last night. It

1117
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:53,079
was actually worse.

1118
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 2: Why why I love it?

1119
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:56,119
Speaker 5: I love it.

1120
00:53:56,119 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 4: I got I gotta be prepared to come on the show.

1121
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,639
Speaker 3: No, I understand it. But you watched it.

1122
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: I mean you knew how bad it was. Yeah, I'm

1123
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,079
sure you read plenty of articles. I know you got the.

1124
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 12: You pick up a lot more when there's and and

1125
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,880
the second time you watch it. Yeah, but in the

1126
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,480
middle of a being a fan, and then you watch

1127
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,679
on the second time and you kind.

1128
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:20,199
Speaker 4: Of look built. They're predictable, they're unprepared. Yeah, like Adulton

1129
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,760
kk ran on the field. Okay, we're gonna run a

1130
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,760
pass play everyone knows it. With Dalton Kaka trots off

1131
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,360
the field and they bring to Jackson Haws Okay, it's

1132
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,719
probably gonna be a run until they run that stupid

1133
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,400
trick play. We're gonna roll about, throw it fake and

1134
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,239
fake the fourth and one push push when the drive

1135
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,519
before you had a fourth and one the thirty four

1136
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,239
You're like, yeah, I don't know. Okay, first they did

1137
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,559
do that. I wish they did too. Okay, so now

1138
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,599
we're gonna go for it. And and they give it up.

1139
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,440
And then Miami comes back down the field. It scores,

1140
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,239
and Cole Bishop, who was a hero on the previous drive,

1141
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,960
all of a sudden gets a pushing out of pushing

1142
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,079
the kid out of bound. So that's another fifteen yards.

1143
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:55,199
They get thirty yards on that plate. Next thing, you know,

1144
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,480
the balls in the air touchdown and we make too.

1145
00:54:57,519 --> 00:55:00,360
It look like a freaking hero because the defensive, the

1146
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,840
secondary is just so banked up and so injured and

1147
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,000
so old.

1148
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1149
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:08,679
Speaker 12: Yeah, and and and even when I think mis Dawkins,

1150
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:11,199
he said, yeah, well they came out and based defense.

1151
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:15,519
If an NFL team that's two and seventh comes out,

1152
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:19,000
they're playing base defense with three linebackers and not a

1153
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:22,119
Nick l corner. They're saying, we're gonna stop your run.

1154
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,000
You can't beat us in the passing game. That's what

1155
00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:32,039
that tells you, And that to me is alarming when

1156
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:36,920
when you have you become one dimensional with your MVP quarterbacks.

1157
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,519
Speaker 4: What's happened to you?

1158
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 5: Are one dimensional.

1159
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,559
Speaker 4: Kean Coleman, whether they want to admit it or not,

1160
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,199
and McDermott kind of alluded to it, so did Allen

1161
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,159
after the game, Like they asked mcderbott about whether or

1162
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,559
not I think they asked him on Monday about whether

1163
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,440
or not like he's given no this effort. He goes, oh,

1164
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,559
he knows when I'm not happy with him? Who says

1165
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,639
like mcderbott said this basically and then the game the

1166
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,719
day before, after the game they asked Alan about Coleman's effort,

1167
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,719
he goes, well, he got his one today. Another word

1168
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,519
he got he got He had his touchdown catch. That

1169
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:07,079
was it. Now there are a couple of overthrows where

1170
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:09,440
he missed Coleman. But Coleman's a receiver who's on the

1171
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,880
field more than anybody else, uh in who who's a

1172
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,400
skill position player, tight end, running back, receiver. Okay, so

1173
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:20,480
either he's miscast as an ex receiver which means Miami

1174
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:22,159
only or any opponent. He has to go one on

1175
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,079
one with him, no safety, help, nothing, Try to beat us,

1176
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:26,920
try to beat us, Kia Coleman.

1177
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 5: He can't do it. Yep. So everybody else gets the cover.

1178
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 4: Nobody's open.

1179
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 5: You know who.

1180
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,519
Speaker 12: He reminds me of Dan And I found about this

1181
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,519
when I saw they all twenty two. He's not running

1182
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:43,039
his routes at full speed. No when possibly he's not

1183
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,679
the first progression. You know who also did that? Chris

1184
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,599
talked about that on your old radio show back in

1185
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:53,840
the day. Sammy Watkins was this, Yeah, I'm the same

1186
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,360
thing that Sammy does.

1187
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,559
Speaker 4: So there's tells, there's tells, there's tells. But did you

1188
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:00,960
realize that, like on that interception that Alan threw in

1189
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:03,800
the end zones, that James Cook wasn't on the field,

1190
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,840
so Miami knows pass is coming. You're taking your best

1191
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,000
player off the field on third down? Why because it

1192
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:13,199
can't pass block? It's your best player. It'side from Allen.

1193
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: Predictable right as you said. But do we worry about

1194
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,440
like going forward? Is Is it a McDermot issue, Is

1195
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,719
this a Josh issue? Is it a combination of the two.

1196
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 12: Been a McDermott issue from the jump from since thirteen seconds.

1197
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,360
This is a McDermot issue. I know that Alan has

1198
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,599
had his frustrations, but he's also a golden retriever. He's

1199
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:41,480
not that emotional savior that this team needs. And that's okay.

1200
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 5: Danny talked about a couple of weeks ago, there's two

1201
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,760
bad guys in every teams. Everyone has one. We don't

1202
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:47,159
have one.

1203
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,119
Speaker 4: No, they're all they're all one. They're all German shepherds.

1204
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,599
There are no bad guys. Nobody wants to be a meanie.

1205
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:55,039
Nobody wants to be the jerk. Nobody wants to be

1206
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:56,639
the guy. And by the way, the last guy who

1207
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,880
was that guy couldn't the reason nobody respected stuff on

1208
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:02,599
digs and lockerrooms because he couldn't hold himself accountable. He

1209
00:58:02,679 --> 00:58:04,960
told everybody else accountable. But then when I screw up, Oh,

1210
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:08,960
it's an accident, my bad, Right, you should throw the

1211
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,800
ball a little bit closer, Josh. That's why nobody respected him.

1212
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,000
So then when he leaves, all thank god he's gone.

1213
00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:18,920
Right now, everybody eats well, yeah, but now nobody's being accountable.

1214
00:58:18,519 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 12: Right right, Well, we can't keep throwing these three yard

1215
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,360
bubble screens. I mean come on, gosh, an offensive coordinator,

1216
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,639
if you know what the talent is, you've got to.

1217
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 5: Create a scheme around the talent.

1218
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,039
Speaker 12: So if you can get these guys open with different

1219
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:37,920
route concepts, get them open in space, doing legal picks,

1220
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,519
rub routes, a bunch of different things you can do.

1221
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:44,679
Use your damn running back out of the backfield, mess

1222
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,199
with the eye discipline of the defense, run a lot

1223
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:50,920
of pre snap motions. It's just the consistency, or the

1224
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:56,000
lack thereof, is so concerning going into Tampa. The Texans

1225
00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:58,400
are going to be an incredibly hard game to win.

1226
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,719
And the Steelers pre weeks, Oh yeah, grab a.

1227
00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:05,519
Speaker 4: Stickers, What what were you to say? So who we

1228
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:08,039
all agree is the best receiver on the team? Consensus receiver,

1229
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:12,480
not tight end receiver. Uh, easily right. They did a

1230
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:16,079
heat map of all his catches. They're all like behind

1231
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:18,360
the line of scribbage most of us, like sixty percent

1232
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,440
of his catches are behind the line of scribbage. The

1233
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:23,679
rest are within ten yards. Like there's no slants, there's

1234
00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:26,239
no outs, nothing, No hey squat can't throw it will

1235
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:28,760
throw your screen. You take off, and it's like that's

1236
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,840
that stuff wasn't working they know what's coming.

1237
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: Everybody.

1238
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:34,519
Speaker 4: The Bills are tipping off their offensive plays the way

1239
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:35,840
a pitcher tips his pitches.

1240
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:39,639
Speaker 2: Uh, Peter, would you like to see Brian Dabele back?

1241
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:40,119
Speaker 3: Uh?

1242
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: No, one. Bill's drive is the offensive corporator. No, No,

1243
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,679
there's been some passed him.

1244
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 5: I know this conversation, but seeing.

1245
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah.

1246
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 5: If mcdermot's a head coach, no, no chance.

1247
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 4: He's not coming back.

1248
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 5: No chance.

1249
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 4: Tyler Dunn, whom we've had on this show, went on

1250
00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:00,360
is written about this, and he talked about it today

1251
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:03,480
on a Buffalo station and he said, he goes. Sean

1252
01:00:03,559 --> 01:00:06,559
McDermott and him did not get along. McDermott may have,

1253
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:08,599
in fact been threatened by the fact that Davil was

1254
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:11,199
so close to the Pegulas before Kim you know, yeah,

1255
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,760
and so that he was that mcdermy have been threatened.

1256
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,880
They didn't get along. Filing the Tampa Bay game in

1257
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,920
twenty twenty one, where the Bills came back in the

1258
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,760
second half and almost beat Brady in the Bucks. Yes,

1259
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,920
the reason that they the reason that they were able

1260
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,719
to come back was because Dabel said, screw you, Sean,

1261
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,119
I'm running my offense and they threw the ball over

1262
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:32,679
the field and almost won the freaking game, if you

1263
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,880
remember that. Yeah, and so that they had a disconnect.

1264
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,119
They stopped like they'd even like talk for a while.

1265
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,679
And the story was that even if the job wasn't

1266
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:45,840
the Giants job wasn't on the table, David was gonna leaves.

1267
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,039
He's not coming back this year. We know that he's

1268
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:48,920
not coming back this year.

1269
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,039
Speaker 5: Now.

1270
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:51,199
Speaker 4: Could he be rehired next year? Maybe? I doubt it,

1271
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,360
though I really doubt it.

1272
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,519
Speaker 12: I don't know if it was someone and Bell. Someone

1273
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:58,079
has to get Na's ear. I don't know who that

1274
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,480
might be, but I will tell you I'm a very

1275
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:07,000
good source. It's ironclad, it's concrete. Paulian did meet Bill Paullian,

1276
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:09,400
former GM of the Bills, GM of the Cold Super

1277
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,639
Bowl champion, Hall of Famer, lives in Charlotte. Met with

1278
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:17,000
Terry Pagula and Brandon Mean at the Panthers game. It

1279
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,360
wasn't just a hey, stop by the suite for some snacks.

1280
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:22,039
This was a sit down.

1281
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 5: But I don't know what the result of that meeting

1282
01:01:25,519 --> 01:01:26,960
was or the tenor of that conversation.

1283
01:01:27,679 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 12: I just know that it happened, and Bill Paullien does

1284
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,519
a lot of consulting for a lot of teams throughout

1285
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:35,320
the NFL. He's the reason why Ryan Poles is the

1286
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,079
GM of the Bears. He made sure that the Bears

1287
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:41,239
wouldn't let him leave the facility when he came to interview.

1288
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:43,519
Speaker 5: So he has the year of a lot of people.

1289
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,360
His credibility is so high in this league. I hope

1290
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,400
that was a reach out by Pagoula to say where

1291
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,239
do we go from here?

1292
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:55,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Terry doesn't really know anybody else. No, No,

1293
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,519
he doesn't like his Only other guy that he knows

1294
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,239
is Pete Welly, who the grab from the Giants. He's

1295
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:03,079
the new Russ Brandon. Yeah, do you want to go

1296
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:03,719
that route again?

1297
01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: The Russ Brandon?

1298
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 4: But Pete?

1299
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,519
Speaker 2: I know Pete.

1300
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,719
Speaker 4: No, I know Pete too, But I mean, but he's

1301
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:11,519
not a football guy.

1302
01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:13,519
Speaker 2: It was just sport. He did sports radio back.

1303
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, yeah, suld I make the decisions with the

1304
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,440
Buffalo Bills.

1305
01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. He would lose your mind.

1306
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,199
Speaker 4: Greg broke down in the corner, and then he'd be

1307
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,679
like Peter and Greg Connors could get that franchise fixed.

1308
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll say Peter and Greg Connors. But you will

1309
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,320
be I think your head would explode. I think you

1310
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,199
you'll be reaching just to sniffing Josh's jock just to

1311
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,280
get I know I'm teasing, but I'm just saying, like,

1312
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,880
you get so like worked up, like I'm on medication. Okay,

1313
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,519
it's not working.

1314
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 4: It's not.

1315
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: Not for that gig. Not for that gig. They better

1316
01:02:51,079 --> 01:02:53,519
up it. I'm saying, Yes, I think you guys have

1317
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:56,679
great ideas, but I I don't know, buddy.

1318
01:02:57,239 --> 01:02:59,559
Speaker 12: And that's the thing that Bill I think they they

1319
01:02:59,719 --> 01:03:04,519
and one Bill's drive especially Bean continuously condescends to the

1320
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:09,000
fan base. Hey guys, this isn't fantasy football. Hey guys, way,

1321
01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:11,239
we know what fantasy football is. We know what your

1322
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:11,679
role is.

1323
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 5: Stop talking down on Yeah, well now fantasy football.

1324
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 4: But now that radio show is getting national attention for

1325
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,920
being right about that in April. And by the way,

1326
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,320
like the ESPN and others are all over this gone

1327
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,519
viral where like Brandon be went on their show and

1328
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:28,480
criticized he did it himself. He volunteered it. They didn't

1329
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:31,199
go after him. He went after them, right. And but

1330
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,000
by the way, Peter and I have said this for

1331
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:34,800
a couple of years on this podcast that they need

1332
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,320
more receivers that they haven't done it, like, because the

1333
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,079
real the decision maker that franchise is Sean mcderbott's not

1334
01:03:40,119 --> 01:03:43,159
Brandon Bean. It's Sean McDermott. Sean mcdermot's the decision maker.

1335
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,239
Brandon Bean setting the table and pulling the tab, but

1336
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,800
he's doing exactly what Sean McDermott wants. That's why you

1337
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,920
have defensive player, defensive player, defensive player. And they reach.

1338
01:03:51,079 --> 01:03:53,159
They it's not just that they miss in the draft.

1339
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,599
They trade up to miss.

1340
01:03:57,199 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: How bad is that?

1341
01:03:59,679 --> 01:03:59,719
Speaker 8: No?

1342
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,079
Speaker 4: But I don't know, trade up for kyr Elan, traded

1343
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:03,960
up for Cody.

1344
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: Ford, right, Bookie Bat would be somebody, Hey, look who's

1345
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,920
the cornerback that's a rookie this year that was injured?

1346
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 4: Oh, Max Harriston.

1347
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: Harriston looks great. Yeah, he's really good.

1348
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:17,039
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're always wrong, but I'm saying, like

1349
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,760
twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, their drafts have

1350
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,199
looked kind of And then so what happens is Bill,

1351
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:26,320
once you once you start missing a lot, then you

1352
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,400
got to sign the guys that you have to these

1353
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,440
long term contracts and on a second contract. Most of

1354
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:33,280
these guys after a year or two fall off the

1355
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,800
face of the earth. But you still owed all that money.

1356
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 5: Good environment right now, every environment, everybody in the time turnaround. Yeah.

1357
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:43,559
Still it's still festers, something festering within this team. I

1358
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:44,400
don't know what it is.

1359
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,039
Speaker 12: It's a lot of different things, I think, and I

1360
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:48,360
don't think it's gonna be correctable.

1361
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,559
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm gonna say it again, this is

1362
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:52,880
not a super Bowl roster. I said it before it

1363
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,400
was asked to being last week. This is not a

1364
01:04:55,519 --> 01:04:57,280
championship roster period.

1365
01:04:57,519 --> 01:04:57,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1366
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 4: And anybody in that defense right now, as I said,

1367
01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:03,199
one is right now either injured, hurt or uninjured.

1368
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: Resorts right, Jesus, I got it. You said it the

1369
01:05:05,559 --> 01:05:06,079
first week.

1370
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: I want I want people to know we know what

1371
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:08,760
we're talking about here.

1372
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,079
Speaker 2: I know you do you do, and I love giving

1373
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:14,480
you a hard time, but I wouldn't like, do you

1374
01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:16,679
think I'm gonna let people come on here who don't

1375
01:05:16,719 --> 01:05:19,519
know what they're talking about. I mean, maybe you're well

1376
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,320
not man like Peter stuff. Peter Jews does a great job.

1377
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,519
Juice is good what he does. Yes, I think Juice

1378
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:28,800
does a great job. I honestly, and I'm not even

1379
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:31,519
like a betting I'm not as deep as you guys.

1380
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:33,480
That's why I said I'm not as deep a fan.

1381
01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:36,199
I'm a fan. I can get it all the wrong.

1382
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,039
But I get such a kick out of you going

1383
01:05:39,159 --> 01:05:41,800
back and watching the game again, because I go, God,

1384
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,800
I got like ninety nine things I'd rather do. Watching

1385
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,719
the Bills game again is not one bitch whata no,

1386
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,000
but the fact that you exactly the fact that you did.

1387
01:05:54,039 --> 01:05:57,559
Speaker 4: Okay, I gotta go back and watch the Tampa doing

1388
01:05:57,639 --> 01:05:58,000
the game.

1389
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 5: We're gonna watch last year's they won.

1390
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 4: They won three. They had three plays. Do we had

1391
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,519
three plays that beat Tampa?

1392
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: Peter, Do we worry terribly about New England?

1393
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,599
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, just stop everybody. The division's over.

1394
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:18,239
Speaker 4: Yeah over, that's a division over. But there's still a

1395
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,119
cap jail. Imagine what's gonna happen at the end of

1396
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:21,960
the season when they're out of cap jail. Yeah?

1397
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:22,679
Speaker 2: But who who?

1398
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 4: The Patriots?

1399
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: Patriots? But I always feel like the cap is like

1400
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,320
this you know sort of thing. It's like this mythilosophy math, Yeah,

1401
01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:32,920
the fuzzy math. I don't know. It's like people who

1402
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:33,639
believe in God.

1403
01:06:34,199 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: Maybe he's there.

1404
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm teasing I did that just for dating. I'm just

1405
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,039
saying like, but honestly, like, well, we know, we know

1406
01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:43,880
that the cap is there, but it always seems like

1407
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,760
the guys can manipulate.

1408
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,599
Speaker 4: That to their favorite if they need to, right lit, No,

1409
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,039
it's not. It's not a myth.

1410
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's a myth. But it's And

1411
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,719
I can see why they would think it's a myth. Right,

1412
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,679
we don't know that. I don't think most people understand

1413
01:06:57,679 --> 01:06:59,639
the inner workings of all that, but they seem to

1414
01:06:59,679 --> 01:07:01,760
manipul that. A Peter froze and his face is so

1415
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,199
funny in the Frozen he was like starting to laugh

1416
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,039
or something. Uh, all right, we'll uh. I don't know

1417
01:07:09,079 --> 01:07:10,000
that I'm gonna get him back.

1418
01:07:10,519 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 4: See is the wheel spinning?

1419
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: Uh No, he's just frozen.

1420
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:15,239
Speaker 4: Is he just frozen?

1421
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: No? But that was great. He was from a live place,

1422
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:20,400
an event in Charlotte.

1423
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,119
Speaker 5: So there's that on.

1424
01:07:21,239 --> 01:07:24,079
Speaker 4: Location, on location, see twenty years ago, you need like

1425
01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:25,239
via satellite to do that.

1426
01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:29,199
Speaker 2: Is it so strange? Like this is the thing that

1427
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,719
I often wonder about too, is uh, how fast all

1428
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,800
this technology has come about and how cool it is,

1429
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,440
you know, and I and I would always say, because

1430
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,199
my uncle said that the world is designed by genius

1431
01:07:43,239 --> 01:07:45,559
to be run by idiots. My races say though, and

1432
01:07:45,679 --> 01:07:47,840
it is funny, right, because I would always go, what's

1433
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,920
the number one thing that's happening nowadays?

1434
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: Porn?

1435
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: What's ruining marriages?

1436
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,159
Speaker 3: Porn?

1437
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,559
Speaker 2: Why are we not gonna have another great guitars?

1438
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: Porn?

1439
01:07:57,639 --> 01:07:59,639
Speaker 2: Because it's all right at the tip of our fingers.

1440
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:02,119
But this was designed by genius. Is you now have

1441
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:05,400
a device? You should never walk around and go who

1442
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:08,199
was that guy that did that? That thing that you

1443
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,519
got every answer ever if we only had a device, right,

1444
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,880
we do. But I will say I do worry about

1445
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:20,960
the constant barrage of information and that it comes at

1446
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:26,399
you so fast that I do wonder about the our

1447
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,399
mental capacity. I'm not gonna say mental health, as much

1448
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:31,359
as just our mental capacity to hold it all, which

1449
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,000
then would lead to a mental health issue potentially, And

1450
01:08:34,119 --> 01:08:37,560
we are seeing results of that. But I, I don't know,

1451
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,760
it's just so fast. There's so much information out there, Yeah,

1452
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,560
you know, like I mean, I can get most of

1453
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:47,840
it's false, I can get every well, uh, yeah, what

1454
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,760
did I say the other day because my kid came

1455
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,239
out and said something to me, and I said, you

1456
01:08:52,399 --> 01:08:54,039
got to take that stuff with a grain of salt,

1457
01:08:54,119 --> 01:08:56,359
because you have to stop and think, would that person

1458
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,920
really say that or do that? I think there was

1459
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,039
even ones again, and I always worry about, like, you

1460
01:09:02,119 --> 01:09:05,039
know people, you always defended President Trump. Something came about

1461
01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:08,439
Trump and I go, there's no way that he did that, right,

1462
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:08,760
he didn't.

1463
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 4: Well, well, that that phrase goes, if I were ever

1464
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,560
to run for president from the nineties. Yeah, if I

1465
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,680
were ever, if I would have ever run for president,

1466
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,800
I would run as a Republican because their voters are

1467
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,920
so stupid. Yeah, he never said that. It was a

1468
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:22,920
meme that went around in twenty He never said it.

1469
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: Well, it never happened. But this was one where he

1470
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:29,680
was quoted as I forget what it was now, it

1471
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,119
was just recent and I went, for some reason, I'm

1472
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:36,439
not buying that he would say that it certainly fit

1473
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:40,920
the character of him in terms of the stuff, but

1474
01:09:41,119 --> 01:09:41,560
I don't think.

1475
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 4: Well, the story came out yesterday. Eli Lilly's CEO came

1476
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,720
out and with the Army it's a huge medical drug company, right,

1477
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,520
and they asked him. He goes, do you do you

1478
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,520
use AI? And he goes, well, we've had to be

1479
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,000
careful with AI because a lot of AI is false information,

1480
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,520
and he goes, We've had to run things through in

1481
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,920
double check and triple check found that, like, the only

1482
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,640
ones that are really accurate are clawed Yeah, and XAI

1483
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,479
or crock. You know that the rest of them, really,

1484
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,079
like are are either geared.

1485
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 2: A certain what they're doing with I don't know they're

1486
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,600
doing it. I don't know the specific because what the

1487
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,039
most thing that I'll do with something is I always

1488
01:10:18,199 --> 01:10:21,079
write everything in my voice, and if I go, I know,

1489
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,680
I just need to turn that phrase better. I'll go,

1490
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,479
keep my voice, polish this up. It's all my thoughts.

1491
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:29,520
Just make it a little bit better, and it can

1492
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,920
turn that pretty quick. But I'll only do that to

1493
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:36,359
a paragraph or so sometimes. Uh so, I don't I'm

1494
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:39,039
not familiar enough with like people are having to build

1495
01:10:39,039 --> 01:10:40,640
apps for them, and people are having.

1496
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,039
Speaker 4: To build yeah, yeah, assistance.

1497
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all right there, it's all right there. Well,

1498
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,319
anything else happened in Danny's world? Has been been a

1499
01:10:49,399 --> 01:10:50,640
week here that we haven't seen it.

1500
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,039
Speaker 4: Good, I'm blessed.

1501
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,079
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't mean to laugh at that. That was

1502
01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:59,920
terrible that I even chortled. I I know, nothing's good good,

1503
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,239
I'm ver. Yeah, everything's fine, right, everything's really we're rocking

1504
01:11:04,279 --> 01:11:07,119
and rolling. Man, you're good making it all happen. Yeah.

1505
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:08,960
Actually I should tell you something that we're done here.

1506
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:10,279
Speaker 4: You're not pregnant, are you?

1507
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 2: No?

1508
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 3: No, no no no no no no no.

1509
01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:14,079
Speaker 4: Because you know, like the technology is moving fast. I

1510
01:11:14,119 --> 01:11:15,479
will want to make sure it's okay.

1511
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,039
Speaker 2: Technology is moving fast. But yes, I will tell you

1512
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:24,600
what we're what we're doing with the podcast. All good stuff, cool,

1513
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,199
all good stuff, all good stuff. So I want to

1514
01:11:27,239 --> 01:11:29,640
rattle any feathers. But there will be uh more to

1515
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,039
come on all that stuff we're looking forward to in

1516
01:11:32,119 --> 01:11:32,800
the near future.

1517
01:11:33,039 --> 01:11:35,520
Speaker 4: I love coming here, I love doing this. I appreciate

1518
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:35,920
it well.

1519
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,079
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Dan Brillon, and I love when your

1520
01:11:39,119 --> 01:11:40,640
head gets on. Just love it.

1521
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 4: I know, my wife, because you don't really get mad

1522
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,000
over football. You just act like it to be funny.

1523
01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think if you were actually in

1524
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,600
that front office, I think there would be like that's

1525
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,000
a good role. I think you wouldn't sleep. I think

1526
01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:55,359
you wouldn't sleep. I think you'd be there. We'd find you,

1527
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,439
like with your Fitbit going off at four am.

1528
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 4: Our owner an A fib.

1529
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:07,199
Speaker 2: For Dan Barillo, for Juice Fields, Juice Fields for Peter Montemerno.

1530
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,239
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you next week.

1531
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,119
Speaker 12: Seth's California baby Things of god Worth See is a

1532
01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:19,119
land up opportunity for me to