Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan on WBZ Boston's radio.
Speaker 2: Remember to call. I don't have the exact date, but
Speaker 2: I know the Red Sox truck leaves for spring raining
Speaker 2: about a month from now, first week in February. It's
Speaker 2: only yes, yeah, no, no. All we got to do
Speaker 2: is get through January. It's as simple as that. And
Speaker 2: then the sun is shining for so you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Once that truck leaves, we're in good shape.
Speaker 2: Thanks to call, Nicole and I bonding over sports topics
Speaker 2: and scores and all of that. My name's Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: I'm the host of Nightside, heard every Monday through Friday
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Speaker 2: tonight we have four. I wouldn't call them top news stories,
Speaker 2: but they're all newsmakers in their own way. And then
Speaker 2: later on tonight, we're going to talk about inspections of
Speaker 2: the Massachusetts emergency shelters as a result of the fact
Speaker 2: that this fellow who apparently is staying here without any
Speaker 2: sort of documentation or authorization, had about ten pounds of
Speaker 2: fentanyl as well as an automatic weapon at a Revere shelter.
Speaker 2: Something to be concerned about. And at ten o'clock tonight,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be talking with Lou Fronte. He's a
Speaker 2: former convict, no other way to describe it. Remember the
Speaker 2: Gambino crime family, who has written a trilogy of books,
Speaker 2: this one the second one. I'm going to talk about
Speaker 2: as American Mafia, an America's political elite. Really interesting guests,
Speaker 2: And later on tonight, I think we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about some of the musics today by President elect Trump
Speaker 2: on Panama, Greenland, and gossip. But first, first guest tonight
Speaker 2: is Christina Basilio. Christina, I hope I pronounced that name correctly.
Speaker 2: Is it Basilio, It's Facilia, you get it right. No
Speaker 2: relation to the Great Fighter from the nineteen fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2: Carmen Basilio.
Speaker 3: I assume, uh, not quite.
Speaker 4: Maybe we're cousins twice or three times removed.
Speaker 2: Tough boxer, let me tell you, tough boxer. But we're
Speaker 2: going to not talk about boxing. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about trends, top trendsing resolutions here in America, and how
Speaker 2: people can keep their their resolutions. I guess we don't
Speaker 2: do really well at that. I believe that there's a
Speaker 2: report out of the Pew Research Center. You're a Google
Speaker 2: tech expert, but I assume you're familiar with the Pew
Speaker 2: Research Center Research Center report that we're referring to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's about forty people who make resolutions will give
Speaker 4: them one or all of them up in the first
Speaker 4: three weeks of the new year, and our hope is
Speaker 4: that we can motivate some people to keep those resolutions
Speaker 4: a little bit longer this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting because I guess younger people, you know,
Speaker 2: younger people in the eighteen to thirty make about half
Speaker 2: of the resolutions. Well, miss seniors kind of like myself,
Speaker 2: people who are on the wrong side of fifty, they
Speaker 2: don't nearly approach young people. Why such a difference in
Speaker 2: an age approach to this and the approach of different
Speaker 2: ages to the concept of resolutions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good question. I wonder if maybe
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of influence from social media. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of interest in maybe going after your passions
Speaker 4: and your interests, and when you're seeing those things online,
Speaker 4: maybe it starts to influence how you think about your
Speaker 4: own time, like what do you want to do with
Speaker 4: your time? How do you want to take care of
Speaker 4: your health and wellness? Whereas maybe if you're a little
Speaker 4: bit older, you already have your goals that you have
Speaker 4: set for yourself, and maybe they're more long term perhaps,
Speaker 4: and you don't have to think about starting over at
Speaker 4: the start of the new year because you perpetually know
Speaker 4: what you want to work on and what's important for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I was thinking actually the opposite, meaning,
Speaker 2: if you're over fifty or sixty, you probably have messed
Speaker 2: up a lot of things in your life that you
Speaker 2: like to straighten out. When you're in your twenties, you
Speaker 2: haven't had too much time to mess things up yet.
Speaker 2: But I guess maybe your theory is it makes more
Speaker 2: sense to most in terms of there's also a disparity
Speaker 2: age differentials between what people want to do now. I
Speaker 2: guess health, exercise, an environment kind of about the same
Speaker 2: three quarters or four fifths of the resolutions irrespective of age,
Speaker 2: But there is a difference when you get to things
Speaker 2: like hobbies and personally interest. Tell us about that more
Speaker 2: resolutions for young people for hobbies and personal interest than
Speaker 2: older people. This is quite a gap.
Speaker 4: Well, when we were looking at the data, we really
Speaker 4: looked at the aggregated data of what Americans were looking at.
Speaker 4: So when we talk about hobbies and interests, there wasn't
Speaker 4: interest in things like learning how to draw or maybe
Speaker 4: learning how to crochet, and things like making a sour
Speaker 4: dough starter. But it feels like people are interested in
Speaker 4: maybe taking on new hobbies, new interests, maybe things that
Speaker 4: they can do independently from their friends, and things that
Speaker 4: they could do at their home to maybe continue to
Speaker 4: grow and learn something new.
Speaker 2: Also a big disparity on work or career issues. Older
Speaker 2: folks they kind of got to figure it out their
Speaker 2: work and career are sixty five and older. But people
Speaker 2: who were in that young trench, two thirds of them
Speaker 2: make resolutions about again career or their professional work.
Speaker 4: So we actually saw a really interesting trend this year
Speaker 4: around careers. So people were either looking for how to
Speaker 4: choose a career that they love, change a career, or
Speaker 4: even start a career. And I know that for some
Speaker 4: folks maybe they don't know exactly what they want to do,
Speaker 4: so they may turn to a tool like people search
Speaker 4: to look for things. Like folks that are fresh out
Speaker 4: of college, they may look up things like jobs for
Speaker 4: English majors, so they can get a better idea of
Speaker 4: the job market and what type of jobs exist for
Speaker 4: them to enter into the workforce with the skills that
Speaker 4: they're bringing to the table.
Speaker 2: Of course, those people, those young people with archaeology majors,
Speaker 2: they don't have to worry about finding a job because
Speaker 2: there are no jobs in archaeology at this point, so
Speaker 2: that probably have a little bit of a factor as well.
Speaker 2: Not much about sports or activities. It looks like a
Speaker 2: lot about relationships with family and friends. Fairly tight shot
Speaker 2: group there what irrespective of the age, seems everybody is
Speaker 2: worried about their relationships with family or friends. That's the
Speaker 2: one I think uh area resolution area that that people
Speaker 2: are united on in terms of interesting irrespective of their
Speaker 2: age did Is that what you found as well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we did see a huge interest in things
Speaker 4: like work life balance and wellness. Some of our top
Speaker 4: searches were around just how to have better mental health,
Speaker 4: how to how to communicate better, how to have better relationships.
Speaker 4: So it seems like people are really wanting to be intentional,
Speaker 4: apparently regardless of age, on creating better, stronger relationships with
Speaker 4: their friends and family, and we've seen that in our
Speaker 4: search data too.
Speaker 2: Now you are is it a Google text tech expert?
Speaker 2: Is that that's the way I think it's. It's it
Speaker 2: reads here you're a Google tech expert? What does that mean?
Speaker 4: So what we do as Google technology expert we look
Speaker 4: at how Google tools can help people on topics that
Speaker 4: matter most to them. So, for example, when we're talking
Speaker 4: about things like careers, we look at what people are
Speaker 4: searching for like how to maybe build their resume, and
Speaker 4: we have different tools that we look at. So, for example,
Speaker 4: our Grow with Google team has a really awesome interview
Speaker 4: warm up tool. So let's say you're about to go
Speaker 4: do some interviewing, you haven't done it in a while.
Speaker 4: If you visit this chatbot, it's able to help you
Speaker 4: practice your interviews and give you feedback on your answers
Speaker 4: to make them stronger. Another thing that we look at,
Speaker 4: of course in the new year is around health, wellness
Speaker 4: and fitness and some of the tools that Google has
Speaker 4: for anybody that maybe has some health goals is you
Speaker 4: need to use the tools on hand. And the funny
Speaker 4: part I think about is maybe your tool on your wrist.
Speaker 4: If you have a smart watch. I personally use a fitbit.
Speaker 4: You can use the data that these tools give you
Speaker 4: to make more informed decisions on your fitness journey. Whether
Speaker 4: that's trying to get better sleep with sleep tracking, or
Speaker 4: trying to be more mindful and do more yoga and meditation.
Speaker 4: These different types of tools can help you reach those
Speaker 4: goals and make it a little bit easier to keep
Speaker 4: those resolutions.
Speaker 2: All right, well, Christina, I think you and I have
Speaker 2: bonded here tonight. So the next time that I can't
Speaker 2: get into my Google account, can I call you?
Speaker 4: Of course, But I've just given you a hard time.
Speaker 2: Give me your hard time. Check out the box of
Speaker 2: Carmen Basilio. It's a really good boxer fifties and sixties
Speaker 2: top son of a gun. You might be interested. Basila
Speaker 2: was not a very common name, as I'm sure you know,
Speaker 2: so you might be related after all. Thanks. You've been
Speaker 2: a great sport, Christine. Enjoyed having you on the program,
Speaker 2: and we'll have you back maybe. Okay.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Happy New Year everyone, and good luck with your resolutions.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have no resolutions. It didn't make didn't make
Speaker 2: one because I always break them. I figured, why why
Speaker 2: make something that I know I'm going to break. But
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people out there who do have
Speaker 2: the resolutions. Thanks again, we'll talk soon, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk about making
Speaker 2: the food supply safer, healthier, and more resilientlliance more resilient
Speaker 2: with a woman who's the Undersecretary for Marketing and Regulatory
Speaker 2: Programs at the United States Department of Agriculture. That's a
Speaker 2: long title. We'll be back with Jenny Moffatt right after
Speaker 2: this here on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, moving right along, we are now going to
Speaker 2: talk with Jenny Moffatt about making our food supply safer, healthier,
Speaker 2: and more resilient during disruptions and in the future. Jenny Moffatt.
Speaker 2: You are a former Undersecretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs
Speaker 2: at the US Department of Agriculture. Welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, Dan, it's a pleasure to be.
Speaker 2: On When were you serving in the Department of Agriculture?
Speaker 2: Are you a career you know GS fourteen or fifteen
Speaker 2: or resist the position that you held for a period
Speaker 2: of time or have you recently? Are you still holding it?
Speaker 2: It says former, So I assume this is in your past.
Speaker 5: I'm actually still holding it. I am in the Biden
Speaker 5: Harris administration. So I will be on board until January twentieth,
Speaker 5: and then we'll transition to the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: So okay, so everybody has to leave. You can't stay
Speaker 2: a little longer. Okay, fair enough, So tell us what
Speaker 2: what have you done? Tell what what successors you have?
Speaker 2: You know this area much better than I do. Tell
Speaker 2: us what you've done. We always hear about these food recalls,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of that, and how much of
Speaker 2: it is proactive? How much can you anticipate or do
Speaker 2: you have to wait for a problem to develop and
Speaker 2: get the word out and you know, throw throw that,
Speaker 2: let us away or throw those cucumbers away or whatever. Well,
Speaker 2: how does it work?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, well, a lot of our work actually been
Speaker 5: on building a more resilient in local and regional food
Speaker 5: supply chain. And so, really, if we rethink back to
Speaker 5: the beginning of the COVID nineteen pandemic, there were lots
Speaker 5: of food supply chain disruptions we saw right all across
Speaker 5: the country. We saw places that in products that were
Speaker 5: not available on store shelves, and we realized at that
Speaker 5: time that this was It just revealed a critical need
Speaker 5: for change and a new approach to our food system,
Speaker 5: really building and strengthening a more resilient food supply chain
Speaker 5: so that we can withstand those kinds of shocks to
Speaker 5: our food system.
Speaker 2: I was recently, matter of facturs this morning. I'm a
Speaker 2: big strawberries and banana and blueberries guy breakfast, and so
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my package of blueberries and I guess,
Speaker 2: and I realized they're not from Maine at this time
Speaker 2: of year, as they would be during the summertime. They're
Speaker 2: from Peru. Do we make sure that particularly fruits and
Speaker 2: vegetables that we're bringing in from outside other countries are
Speaker 2: safe that a lot of the you know, the chemicals
Speaker 2: that maybe we no longer use here in America are
Speaker 2: not still being used in countries around the world. What's
Speaker 2: what's the process there?
Speaker 5: Well, I'd say there's a handful of different processes to
Speaker 5: ensure the face safety of food. So there there's definitely
Speaker 5: government oversight between federal government as well as state government
Speaker 5: oversight of food that is being sold, whether that is
Speaker 5: food that is being produced here in the United States
Speaker 5: and sold or food that's being imported and sold as well.
Speaker 5: We have what the federal the Food and Drug Administration
Speaker 5: has the produce safety rules to make sure that the
Speaker 5: food is safe, but also retailers and buyers of product
Speaker 5: do their own oversight as well for food safety to
Speaker 5: make sure that it meets the standards that they have
Speaker 5: as far as the quality as well as food safety standards.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I get that if I'm you know,
Speaker 2: running a you know, a fruit farm or whatever, blueberry strawberries,
Speaker 2: that if I'm doing it in Maine or California anywhere
Speaker 2: in between, I assume that there are safety inspectors from
Speaker 2: the U. S d A who who can periodically show
Speaker 2: up and say, hey, what do you use and what
Speaker 2: aren't you using is the Is there any concern and
Speaker 2: I just am looking to actually feel better any concern
Speaker 2: about stuff that's coming in from overseas, you feel that
Speaker 2: that that's as safe as our as our food products.
Speaker 5: We do definitely provide oversight of product that's coming in
Speaker 5: from overseas. We also, you know, we're doing both food
Speaker 5: safety inspections for product that's coming in as well as
Speaker 5: food quality inspections. So we have inspectors at courts of
Speaker 5: entries looking at product and making sure that it meets
Speaker 5: the standards that are required for whatever the product might be.
Speaker 2: Now, I know that you got those of you in
Speaker 2: USDA don't make policy. Obviously Congress makes policy. But as
Speaker 2: someone who is under Secretary for Marketing and regulatory programs,
Speaker 2: will you feel as confident when there's a change of administration,
Speaker 2: irrespective of whether it's from Democrat to Republican or Republican
Speaker 2: and Democrat, that the same good standards that you were
Speaker 2: involved with will be carried on with your successors.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So one thing I'll say, Dan, is the rules and
Speaker 5: the regulations continue. They might change over time, and it
Speaker 5: takes but it is a public input process for any
Speaker 5: of those rules and regulations to change, whether, of course
Speaker 5: you know it is through the congressional process or what
Speaker 5: we call our federal rule making process. One thing I
Speaker 5: will say is while I work at USDA and Biden administration,
Speaker 5: there are over one hundred thousand employees at USDA that
Speaker 5: our career employees. Those employees will continue to work regardless
Speaker 5: of administrations.
Speaker 2: So where will your next career stop be? I mean,
Speaker 2: on a resume, it's pretty good to have under Secretary
Speaker 2: of Marketing and Regulatory Programs for the USDA. Where do
Speaker 2: you think your work will take You? Tell us a
Speaker 2: little bit about yourself. How'd you get to that position?
Speaker 2: Not often we get a chance to talk with under
Speaker 2: secretaries here on Nightside.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I grew up in agriculture. So I grew up
Speaker 5: on my family's farm in California. My family raises walnuts,
Speaker 5: organic walnuts, and so I grew up on the farm.
Speaker 5: It was very interested in agriculture from a young age.
Speaker 5: And after college worked in the nonprofit sector for a
Speaker 5: little bit and then came back to the farm and
Speaker 5: worked for our farm. And did you know all of
Speaker 5: the different things that happen on a farm, whether it's
Speaker 5: everything from peril and making sure we're paying our bills
Speaker 5: to all of our sales and marketing and working with
Speaker 5: our employees to produce the wellness that we grew. And
Speaker 5: then from there I went on and I went into
Speaker 5: state government and worked for the Department of Agriculture in California.
Speaker 5: Loved the work that I did there and really felt
Speaker 5: that it was such an important UH aspect to come
Speaker 5: from working in agriculture and having a seat at the
Speaker 5: table and being part of the conversations in policy making,
Speaker 5: and really loved that. And so then then moved on
Speaker 5: to us DA, And at us DA we've been we've
Speaker 5: been really advancing what we call the Food Systems Transformation Framework,
Speaker 5: and this is really about building and strengthening market opportunities
Speaker 5: for farmers and ranchers so that we have for that
Speaker 5: farmers see new income streams, new revenue opportunities. They can
Speaker 5: see a way in which that they can continue their livelihood,
Speaker 5: hopefully hire more people, create more jobs, but also importantly
Speaker 5: be able to produce healthy food for their communities, like
Speaker 5: you talked about the blueberries that come from Maine to Boston,
Speaker 5: and really strengthening some of our local and regional food systems.
Speaker 3: So I've been.
Speaker 5: Really excited about the work and just love the work
Speaker 5: that we've been doing at USDA in this administration. Back
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one, Congress passed the American Rescue Plan
Speaker 5: and then at that time in the American Rescue Plan
Speaker 5: was five billion dollars for us to really transform that
Speaker 5: food system. And so when we got that money, actually
Speaker 5: it's four billion dollars, but still a significant amount of money.
Speaker 5: When we received that money from Congress, our first question.
Speaker 5: We went to this to farmers, to ranchers, to food
Speaker 5: producers and said, how can we best invest this money
Speaker 5: to really make a transformative impact. We knew we had
Speaker 5: one time dollars, and they said, we need more infrastructure.
Speaker 5: We need more food processing infrastructure. We need more food
Speaker 5: distribution infrastructure. We need need more places where that we
Speaker 5: can take our product to market. We need more opportunity,
Speaker 5: even on our own farm to do things like value
Speaker 5: added products, so turning brule berries, let's say, into a jam,
Speaker 5: or freezing them so that they can be sold year round.
Speaker 5: All of those different things require cold storage or require
Speaker 5: machinery or packaging. We need more of that. And so
Speaker 5: we've been through grants and also some loans been investing
Speaker 5: in regional food businesses around the country, and I as
Speaker 5: I've traveled and met with the producers that this has impacted,
Speaker 5: it's just amazing to see the difference that this has made,
Speaker 5: whether it is in produce, whether it's in meat and
Speaker 5: poultry processing, whether it is a dairy. It's really been
Speaker 5: just a game changer for communities and for those farmers
Speaker 5: and rangers to be able to really see a whole
Speaker 5: new way in which that they can develop new revenue stream.
Speaker 2: Well, Jenny, thank you for what you've done in the USDA,
Speaker 2: and best of luck in your future career plans. I
Speaker 2: know your career will change a little bit on January twentieth,
Speaker 2: but I really thank you for all the work you've
Speaker 2: done and I appreciate you spending some time with us tonight.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Thank you very welcome.
Speaker 2: We get back on to talk about Boston's traffic. We
Speaker 2: rank fourth worst in the USA, twelfth in the world
Speaker 2: worst traffic. We spend about eighty hours those of us
Speaker 2: who commute eighty hours a year sitting in traffic.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Dan Mozilla, director of traffic operations for the Total Traffic
Speaker 2: News Network, back with him on Nightside right after the
Speaker 2: news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Nicole, give you update on the Bruins. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: the V's are down three nothing to the Edmonton Oilers
Speaker 2: as they come close to the end of the second period.
Speaker 2: With us now is Dan Mozilla. He's the director of
Speaker 2: Traffic Operations for TTWN Total Traffic and News Network right
Speaker 2: here in Boston. Hey, Dan Mozella, welcome back to Night's Side.
Speaker 6: How are you Hey? I'm doing good. Dan. You know
Speaker 6: when you say the title, it actually like sounds grander
Speaker 6: than when I say as the people.
Speaker 2: No, I know, I give it the broadcast presentation the
Speaker 2: director of co operations for TTWN. Oh yeah, that important.
Speaker 6: So we now very important.
Speaker 2: Had the fourth worst traffic congestion in the good old
Speaker 2: US of A behind I guess New York, Chicago and
Speaker 2: LA But even more importantly, we are we are the
Speaker 2: twelfth worst in the world. I think of all the
Speaker 2: countries and all the cities around the world where traffic
Speaker 2: is nuts in Paris, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Rome, and we're we're
Speaker 2: number twelve. That's quite an accomplishment.
Speaker 6: It is and we don't even have the Olympics, and
Speaker 6: it's and you know it's bad, man.
Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't have been great to have had the
Speaker 2: Olympics back in twenty twenty five? Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that has gone perfectly.
Speaker 6: It would have gone without a hitch, without a hitch.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: You can just see those opening ceremonies with the cars
Speaker 2: driving down the Charles.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, exactly. It would be our own Olympic sports.
Speaker 6: It would be great. I would I would think I
Speaker 6: would get a gold medal in that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we had we had a lot of fun
Speaker 2: with that when they were thinking about that in terms
Speaker 2: of what, you know, I remember what they could do.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so look we're sitting. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: people who sit in traffic. I had never commuted nine
Speaker 2: to five one year. One year when I was a
Speaker 2: TV reporter, I was on like the ten to six shift,
Speaker 2: but always off hours, so I don't know the agony
Speaker 2: of sitting on the Expressway every morning at eight thirty.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm always I mean, I've always said that.
Speaker 6: You know, there's nothing express about the Expressway. It's it's
Speaker 6: a it's a terrible name, but it does mean something.
Speaker 6: It's the way the road is designed of why it's
Speaker 6: called the expressway.
Speaker 2: Well there's also but there are a lot of people
Speaker 2: who do express themselves from behind the wheel.
Speaker 6: One thousand, one thousand percent. They express with a verbal
Speaker 6: and nonverbal communication, as we call it.
Speaker 2: Very important, very important, but they the I mean, look,
Speaker 2: can can realistically do we just have to throw up
Speaker 2: our hands? Can it or can it get worse?
Speaker 6: It can always get worse, It can always always at worse.
Speaker 6: And right now, you know, I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 6: fact that you know, it's winter or right back from
Speaker 6: the holidays, people's routines are are still you know, not
Speaker 6: where they should be. So I think a lot of
Speaker 6: people in the winter definitely do a more work from
Speaker 6: home because you know, they got to people are getting sick.
Speaker 6: You know, we've got a lot like the flus on
Speaker 6: the rise, COVID on the rise, you you name it.
Speaker 6: So a lot of people are I think working hybrid
Speaker 6: right now because sometimes during the afternoon it was actually,
Speaker 6: uh it was it was last week at this time,
Speaker 6: we were just like, huh is today the holiday or
Speaker 6: or it was yesterday the holiday because there was just
Speaker 6: nothing happening. But then it just all gets jammed up
Speaker 6: at once. It's never like a slow build. It just
Speaker 6: it's like someone flips a switch and everything just gets
Speaker 6: congested out there. It's it's it's well for me, I say,
Speaker 6: it's good for business, but for the rest of everyone
Speaker 6: out there, yeah it is. I mean two hours to
Speaker 6: go nine miles, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, I just think that intuitively, those of us who
Speaker 2: have driven in the Boston area for years, we know
Speaker 2: when the traffic is going to get really bad and
Speaker 2: we want to be out in it. Do you know,
Speaker 2: we don't want to be ahead of that curve of
Speaker 2: behind the curve. We want to be right in the
Speaker 2: middle of that curve.
Speaker 6: C of course, of course you got to be there
Speaker 6: where everybody is, you know, because that's Boston. We all
Speaker 6: want to be around our friends.
Speaker 2: Yes, on Sunday this past was it Sunday or Saturday?
Speaker 2: I think it was Sunday, so it was Sunday. You know,
Speaker 2: the city's kind of quiet. My wife doesn't like to
Speaker 2: drive on Storrow Drive, so we drove down Beacon Street
Speaker 2: about twelve thirty in the afternoon. It took like about
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes to get from Arlington Street down past Charles
Speaker 2: Street or from Barlington Street to Mass Avenue. There's two
Speaker 2: bike lanes on each bike lane on each si to
Speaker 2: Beacon Street.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then of course there's the parking meters. Uh. Then there's
Speaker 2: cars that we have the special parking spaces. And then
Speaker 2: there's the people who double park their cars on a
Speaker 2: Sunday and literally in the middle of Beacon Street and
Speaker 2: cars are trying to it come down to one lane
Speaker 2: and there wasn't one police officer tagging anybody. It took
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes to get from again Arlington Street to
Speaker 2: ken Moore Square. I thought my head was going to explode.
Speaker 6: Now, imagine doing that five days a week. Yeah, like
Speaker 6: almost like fifty weeks a year. You know that that.
Speaker 2: Is a toleration, don't you think you do?
Speaker 6: Yeah, a toleration. Another day, it's just just another day.
Speaker 6: And you know what when you when you only do
Speaker 6: it once, they're like, oh, this isn't that bad, this
Speaker 6: isn't the second day. Huh, all right, I can get
Speaker 6: used to this. Third day. All right, I'm finding another
Speaker 6: commute to work or and then on the fourth day,
Speaker 6: I'm working from home.
Speaker 2: Now let me ask if this last question and I
Speaker 2: don't want to put you in the middle of a
Speaker 2: political kerfuffle here, But do we need more bike lanes
Speaker 2: to slow things down even more?
Speaker 6: No, we we do not need any more bike lanes.
Speaker 6: They are they are, you know, as as environmentally friendly
Speaker 6: as they are. They have taken up a lot of
Speaker 6: space on the roads and that is part of our
Speaker 6: congestion problem.
Speaker 2: By the way, do you know how much money Boston
Speaker 2: has spent on bike lanes. We'll take a guest.
Speaker 6: Oh, guest, Oh, it's more than I think our salaries combined.
Speaker 2: Speak for yourself. It's one hundred and twenty one that
Speaker 2: they've spent.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Oh, I can't tell you the last time
Speaker 6: I rode a bike.
Speaker 2: Hey, Dan Mozil as always, so, if if we get
Speaker 2: a snowstorm this weekend, let's hope it's on a Friday,
Speaker 2: because you know, we want to have some impact on
Speaker 2: traffic and give you something to talk about.
Speaker 6: Okay, exactly, exactly, yeah, see see, I I want, I mean,
Speaker 6: everyone be safe. But yeah, let's let's talk about some uh,
Speaker 6: some congestion on STO Drive again.
Speaker 2: Sounds great, sounds great, man, I love your calls. We
Speaker 2: have the same sort of sixth sense of humor, but
Speaker 2: we must.
Speaker 6: Be related to It's definitely a Dan thing.
Speaker 2: You got it. He thanks the dem Mozella, the director
Speaker 2: of traffic operations for t t WN Total Traffic and
Speaker 2: News Network Boston. Thanks Dan, talk to you soon.
Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, everybody we.
Speaker 2: Get back on to talk about the Titanic. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: exhibit which has now been extended because of popular demand
Speaker 2: right here in Boston. If you have missed it, we
Speaker 2: have some great news for you. Gonna talk with one
Speaker 2: of the event producers, Joe Gold, coming up on the
Speaker 2: other side of the break here on night Side.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All I want to welcome Joe Gold. Joe is one
Speaker 2: of the producers of the Titanic exhibit, which great news
Speaker 2: has been so popular that it has been extended. Its
Speaker 2: stay has been extended in Boston. Joe welcome. This is
Speaker 2: good news for people who haven't had a chance to
Speaker 2: get by to see the Titanic the artifact exhibition. How
Speaker 2: are you tonight?
Speaker 3: I'm well, Thanks Dan, thanks for having me on again.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, You're welcome. So really, the exhibit was going
Speaker 2: to the exhibition was going to close win.
Speaker 3: It was going to close on February second, but the
Speaker 3: demand has been so fantastic. Nearly seventy five thousand people
Speaker 3: have come to see it, so we decided to extend
Speaker 3: it to June first.
Speaker 2: So you're extending it not by four days or four weeks,
Speaker 2: four months, February, April and May. That is fabulous.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I remember that Boston, when we talked before, is one
Speaker 2: of the last major cities to host the Titanic artifact exhibition.
Speaker 2: Is my memory correct on that?
Speaker 3: Your memory is exactly right. So in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 3: there was an exhibit of artifacts from the Titanic, but
Speaker 3: it was really just artifacts on their glass that people
Speaker 3: could come in and see, but there was no story
Speaker 3: behind it. This exhibit, which has toured probably every major
Speaker 3: city in the world, this is the first time it's
Speaker 3: been in Boston and it's been exceptionally well received.
Speaker 2: So it's at what they call the Castle in Park Square.
Speaker 3: Correct, that's right at the Castle at Park Plaza, and
Speaker 3: we're open Wednesday through Sundays, and the business has been
Speaker 3: really terrific. In fact, not only do we have an
Speaker 3: opportunity to see the Titanic, but I'm not sure if
Speaker 3: it's tomorrow. But once a month we do a promotion
Speaker 3: with Arthur Murray Dance Studios and you can learn to
Speaker 3: dance from the Titanic.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's assuming you're able to learn to dance, but
Speaker 2: that's another story. Well, yeah, some of us are hopeless.
Speaker 2: So the thing that is so impressive about it is,
Speaker 2: I guess you actually see what it would look like
Speaker 2: the Grand Staircase. You know, a replica. Obviously the Grand Staircase.
Speaker 2: We know where that is. It's at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the Atlantic Ocean. But it's breathtaking. I've not seen it.
Speaker 2: I've not been there, I will admit, and I apologize
Speaker 2: for that, but I will certainly get there before Memorial Day.
Speaker 2: But this tell us about the Grand Staircase, because my
Speaker 2: understanding is that's one of the amazing presentations.
Speaker 3: So in the exhibition, we've recreated a first class cabin,
Speaker 3: a third class cabin of a hallway from the first
Speaker 3: class deck. But as you said, the sort of the
Speaker 3: masterpiece of the exhibition is the recreation of the Grand Staircase.
Speaker 3: And when it came to installing it, first of all,
Speaker 3: we have to make sure that we had sufficient space
Speaker 3: because the towers up about thirty feet tall, and it's magnificent.
Speaker 3: People come in, they take their picture on the grand staircase,
Speaker 3: they bring their family in. And for the holidays, we
Speaker 3: had it decorated for Christmas and it was beautiful. But
Speaker 3: even without the Christmas decorations, it's really a sight to see.
Speaker 2: Now all of us remember, I think that the Titanic
Speaker 2: sank the same month that Fenway Park opened, twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: and we remember the hundredth anniversary of Fenway Park and
Speaker 2: by extension, the hundredth anniversary of the Titanic. Refresh my recollection.
Speaker 2: Was this the first transatlantic trip that the Titanic had taken,
Speaker 2: or had it gone back and forth a few times
Speaker 2: before this disastrous voyage.
Speaker 3: Now this was the maiden voyage. It had two stops,
Speaker 3: I believe, came out of the fast had two stops,
Speaker 3: and then it proceeded on its way to New York.
Speaker 3: And about two days before its arrival in New York,
Speaker 3: at late at night, it did strike the iceberg on
Speaker 3: April fourteenth, and it's sunk on the fifteenth, And you're
Speaker 3: absolutely right, that's the same year that Fenway Park opened.
Speaker 3: And I saw a story actually either today or yesterday
Speaker 3: that the when Fenway opened was still the news about
Speaker 3: Titanic was still fresh in people's mind and it sort
Speaker 3: of dwarfed the opening of Fenway Park at that time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just an amazing coincidence. So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: You said that this has been in cities around the world.
Speaker 2: Boston obviously because of it's you know, it wasn't coming
Speaker 2: to Boston, but because of the confluence of the opening
Speaker 2: of Fenway Park and we've all learned the movie The Titanic,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Is there as much interest in the voyage
Speaker 2: of the Titanic, the legend of the titan type the
Speaker 2: Titanic uh in cities worldwide as it is in places
Speaker 2: like England and the United States.
Speaker 3: There is I just saw an article about two weeks
Speaker 3: ago that the producers of Titanic, of RMS Titanic signed
Speaker 3: a deal to take it to the Middle East. So
Speaker 3: it's going to play in Saudi Arabia, to play in
Speaker 3: United Arab Emirates, and it'll be there for about two
Speaker 3: or three years. So there's great interest from all around
Speaker 3: the world. And I believe one of the other exhibitions
Speaker 3: the touring exhibition is opening up in New Jersey. So
Speaker 3: we're very fortunate in Boston to have the exhibition here
Speaker 3: for such a long time and give everyone the opportunity
Speaker 3: to see it.
Speaker 2: So there are multiple exhibitions that the one in the
Speaker 2: Middle East. This the Boston exhibition is not going to
Speaker 2: leave Boston and head to the to the UAE correct
Speaker 2: that there's there's there's another exhibition in h in that
Speaker 2: part of the world.
Speaker 3: Company that we took the exhibition from has a permanent
Speaker 3: display in Orlando, as a permanent display in Las Vegas,
Speaker 3: has two other touring exhibitions as well as the one
Speaker 3: that we have, and I believe for the Middle East
Speaker 3: they're creating a sixth unit that's going to be there.
Speaker 3: Since it was discovered and they first brought the first
Speaker 3: artifacts up in nineteen eighty seven, they brought up fifty
Speaker 3: five hundred artifacts. In Boston. We have about two hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty. The others are displayed, as I said, in
Speaker 3: other exhibitions, and they're creating a new one for the
Speaker 3: Middle East.
Speaker 2: So when you say in artifacts, people in Boston will
Speaker 2: be able to see actual objects which went down with
Speaker 2: the Titanic and have been.
Speaker 3: Recovered, their personal effects from a number of the passengers.
Speaker 3: There's bathroom fixtures from the first and third class cabins.
Speaker 3: And in one area, which is particularly my favorite, is
Speaker 3: we have pictures on the wall of dishes that were
Speaker 3: at the bottom of the ocean. There's one of the
Speaker 3: deck benches that was there, and then in front of
Speaker 3: it in a glass case are the actual artifacts that
Speaker 3: were recovered from the bottom of the ocean. So yes,
Speaker 3: there's two hundred and fifty artifacts of personal effects, parts
Speaker 3: of the ship, and a number of other things that
Speaker 3: people have the opportunity to see.
Speaker 2: So just a crazy question from left field, and that
Speaker 2: is has this exhibit ever been in places around the
Speaker 2: world that we think are just far away, meaning Moscow, Tokyo,
Speaker 2: Peking How far a field has one or more of
Speaker 2: these exhibits actually experienced.
Speaker 3: There's been to all these cities and more.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, how many cities.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I don't know how many cities,
Speaker 3: but thirty five million people have experienced Titanic.
Speaker 2: I can just see the Titanic somewhere in Moscow. I'm
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, what would they know about it? But hey,
Speaker 2: it's it's worldwide. Okay, so how can folks still get tickets? Joe?
Speaker 3: The tickets are available at Titanic Boston dot US. Just
Speaker 3: go online, pick the day in day and time that
Speaker 3: you'd like to see it, and tickets are available for
Speaker 3: all times, and especially now that we've opened up four
Speaker 3: additional months, there are plenty of tickets available.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is great to talk to you again. It
Speaker 2: was fun to talk to you the first time. It
Speaker 2: was even more fun this time because I had to
Speaker 2: sort of deep into my head say okay, let me
Speaker 2: ask some questions that maybe he kind of answer, and
Speaker 2: you answered them. A great job, Joe, Thank you so much,
Speaker 2: the Titanic.
Speaker 3: Man, and hopefully you'll get a chance to come see
Speaker 3: the show exhibition.
Speaker 2: You know, Joe, I'm going to make it a point.
Speaker 2: I'm going to make it a point. I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to it. Thank you so much. All Right, we get back.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about issues a little closer to home.
Speaker 2: And the issue that we're going to talk about we
Speaker 2: come back is the inspections that are now finally, finally
Speaker 2: going to take place at some of the state run
Speaker 2: emergency shelters. It is a problem, It is a huge
Speaker 2: problem with implications far beyond the one arrest that has
Speaker 2: been made. There are actually been two very serious arrests made.
Speaker 2: We get to all of that on the other side
Speaker 2: of the nine o'clock news here at night side