WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:00.920 How are you welcome? 2 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:09.400 So we just wanna I guess let's just dive right 3 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:13.679 into it. But can you share just a little bit 4 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:20.719 about Eddie really just hold on. Sorry, it's just like 5 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:23.199 so I think one thing. Obviously we know in the 6 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.000 next week or two Starship five is going to be happening. 7 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.399 What's top of mind? What does success look like for you? 8 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:36.240 Well, it's probably not from a stand point of when 9 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:39.920 Stasha would be ready. It's probably probably is about two 10 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:42.880 or three weeks, but then depends on when we get 11 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:47.560 the FA license. So the that is probably the end 12 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:51.560 of August is my guest's earliest, and it may go 13 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:55.280 to early September, just depends on how fast the FA 14 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:56.159 grants our license. 15 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.000 And for you, what does success look like? 16 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.200 I know there's the idea of literally using the chop 17 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:06.480 sticks to capture this, is that still the gold? 18 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:06.799 Is that? 19 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:08.359 Is that what success would look like? 20 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:12.840 Or what what is success for you and SpaceX in 21 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:14.400 this next Starship five launch? 22 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:17.920 Well, the. 23 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:23.640 We would like to catch the mecha the booster in 24 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.359 the giant Mexicil arms, which is sounds kind of insane 25 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:31.799 and uh, because this is the this is the largest 26 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:35.040 playing object ever made so to catch it with uh 27 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:39.439 you know, giant robot arms is you know, pluck it 28 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:42.920 out of the sky. Is is pretty insane, but I 29 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.319 think it's it's got a decent chance for working, uh 30 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:47.040 my tech. If you take a few kicks at the 31 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:52.439 can before it's actually before it works well. But we're 32 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:54.599 not breaking physics, so success is one of the possible 33 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:55.239 outcomes here. 34 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.640 So we do want to try to recover. 35 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:01.560 The booster we were on the last flight we were able 36 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:05.359 to achieve a soft landing in the ocean or the gulf, 37 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:08.319 in the water and the way. 38 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:09.879 Yeah, that's cool. 39 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:14.000 So I think people we've seen the real time video 40 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:18.520 all the way down to the splash down and then 41 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:20.960 the other thing were hoping to achieve is. 42 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.719 Obviously a more robust heat shield. 43 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:28.159 So you know, last time, the ship actually did make 44 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:32.800 it to the Pacific Ocean or kind of like the 45 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:38.520 border of the Indian and the Pacific Ocean, and it 46 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:41.199 did like the engines and actually the ship that achieve 47 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:44.599 a soft landing, but that we lost a lot of 48 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:48.039 heat shield tiles and it's kind of amazing that the 49 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:52.039 ship did make it to a soft water landing and 50 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:56.840 that it made it all the wait also splashed down 51 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:04.439 because of lost tiles, and I mean basically I like 52 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:14.599 to like absolutely control with like little skeleton hands. But 53 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:17.759 it managed to make it, but it didn't it didn't 54 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:23.199 get to the exact right location. So because it lost 55 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.080 the control authority, it was about I think six miles 56 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:29.360 or so off uh, of course from its landing location. 57 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:33.080 So the time, obviously we want the heat shield to 58 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:37.960 survive intact and the flaps to have full control authority 59 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:42.639 and land at a not not just land softly in 60 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:45.159 in the ocean, but but land at the exact right 61 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:51.800 location that the ship landing is the tough part, meaning 62 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:55.159 like that's because the ship has a heat shield and 63 00:03:55.199 --> 00:04:01.159 it's really designed to survive entry, not not to sort 64 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:05.360 of vaporize. It comes down very much intact, and so 65 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:08.759 we need to make sure that for the ship that 66 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:12.240 the reliability of the heat shield is extremely high, and 67 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:14.960 that the flaps and then it can steer to a 68 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:18.839 very precise landing location. Because if it were to break 69 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:23.720 up of a populated area, it's some possibility of debris hitting, 70 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.519 you know, damaging property or people, and so we want 71 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:32.480 to be really confident that the ship heat shield is 72 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:38.000 super robust and lands at the exact right location. So 73 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.160 before we try to bring the ship back to the 74 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:42.439 launch site, we'll probably I think, when I have at 75 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:49.560 least three successful landings of the ship. You know, and 76 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:53.800 the ship peat shield this time is substantially upgraded. I say, 77 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.560 it's at least twice as good, well in some cases 78 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:01.240 like infinitely better, and has a secondary a heat shield 79 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:05.959 behind the primary heat shield. So it's probably a longer 80 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.560 explanation than maybe you're looking for, but that's what we're 81 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:10.680 hoping to achieve, is. 82 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.240 Yeah, I think we could. 83 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:17.720 Probably a fifty percent chance ish of catching the booster, 84 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:22.319 and then probably probably better than fifty percent, maybe sixty 85 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:28.399 seventy percent chance of the ship heat shield remaining intact 86 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.079 on this upcoming flight, assuming nothing else goes strong. 87 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:34.360 So one thing I did want to comment. 88 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:38.000 Is actually the X takeovers. Actually you're you're coming through 89 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.360 starlink right now, So all the work SpaceX is doing, 90 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:43.160 it's all through starlink. 91 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.160 Well it's stalling here too, it's as starlink, starlink. 92 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:49.240 Starlely connecting starlink. 93 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.959 Yeah, I'm testing the stalling money as well, so I'm 94 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:56.240 like alternating between the mainstalling dish and the stallink money 95 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:59.560 dish that typically the stalling money dish is not as 96 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.279 good as regular dish because it's a smaller antenna. It's 97 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:06.040 it's not as much UH antenna area as the as 98 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:12.360 the regular dish, So just be clear, like the Starling 99 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:14.639 money is not exactly the same as the other one, 100 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:19.160 but but just smaller size. It's it's yeah, it's it's 101 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.279 like you give up a little bit of antenna area. 102 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.839 For UH, but it's it's extremely portable. 103 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.480 So it's like I don't know, maybe a quarter of 104 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:32.279 the weight of the regular one, but and and and 105 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:36.279 you'll get about half the bandwidth. So it's it's it's 106 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.519 sort of it's powered way. It's like ability to wait 107 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.360 ratio is is quite as really good. It's and then yeah, 108 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.040 you can just put in a backpack, take it anywhere 109 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.959 you want. I think it'd be pretty pretty good as 110 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:53.040 a sort of a backup device for emergency services. So 111 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:57.720 actually a lot of sour first responders and emergency services 112 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.920 are you know, looking at having that as just just 113 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:02.680 because it's so easy to just put on a vehicle, 114 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.079 and in fact, I know people have put it on 115 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:05.560 Tesla's which is pretty cool. 116 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:09.399 We have cyber trucks here with them literally stationed on 117 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:11.839 them to shout out to Teslatino and some of the 118 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:12.360 other ones. 119 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:16.439 Yeah, but I think like the stallic money especially is 120 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.399 because it's so portable and easier to put in places. 121 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.480 It's just great for emergency services. 122 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.600 Or if there's like you know, forest fires, floods, natural 123 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:29.439 disasters which take out you know, where you lose the 124 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.920 ground fiber and you lose the cell towers, then you 125 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.360 still have access to the internet with Astronach. 126 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:41.279 So Elion, we're in the market for a starling community. 127 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.319 So two thumbs up, good reviews. How do you like 128 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:43.839 it so far? 129 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:45.959 It's good. 130 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:49.639 You know, it's it's a new product, so we're always 131 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.120 like like ironing out little little things here and there. 132 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:56.199 But so far, so good. It's looking good. I think 133 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:58.920 it'll be a huge seller. 134 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:02.639 And and and also it costs less to manufacture, so 135 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:06.199 that means the terminal cost I think might ultimately get 136 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:10.079 down around a couple hundred bucks, which makes it accessible 137 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:13.199 to luck you know, many many parts of the world 138 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:18.959 where the more expensive terminal, the more expensive Atminalis is unaffordable, 139 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:24.000 so this should be affordable for for you know, much 140 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:25.319 of the world. 141 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:27.279 Well, I can't wait to get out to South Padre 142 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.800 Island for Selfish regions and have the Starlink Mini to 143 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:35.360 cover this live. But what's incredible is just the access 144 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:38.399 that Starlink is. You can go anywhere in the world 145 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:42.279 and have access like the gap for knowledge is no 146 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:44.480 longer going to be an issue in some of the 147 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:48.240 most remote places, so even making it more accessible with 148 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.840 Starlink Mini is just insane. 149 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:54.000 Quickly back to the Starship five. 150 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.720 So Starship four happened, I saw, I was there live 151 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.519 on is Leablanca Park. It was an and then even 152 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.519 going through the star Factory tour, just what you guys 153 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:08.279 are doing at starbases incredible and how fast you iterate 154 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:12.559 and make changes on the fly as it's you know, 155 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.159 each day that goes by, it feels like a century 156 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.519 maybe at other places because of how much you guys 157 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.360 are changing what you know outside of the heat shields. 158 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.200 What were some of the other big findings from the 159 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.480 Starship four launch that you guys are implementing for and 160 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:28.480 preparing for for this upcoming launch. 161 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:35.679 Well this this this really between each flight there are 162 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.480 hundreds of changes on both the ship and the booster. 163 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:41.799 Many of them are very sort of small, but they 164 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.639 add up cumulatively to two significant changes. 165 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:49.080 So say like if. 166 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:51.159 You add changes to the ship of the booster and 167 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.240 to the launch site, they're really talking about thousands of 168 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:59.080 changes between each flight. So you're really talented teams of 169 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:02.000 SpaceX working on the stage. 170 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.679 Zero, which is like the. 171 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.720 Launch site and stage zeros is as important as Stage 172 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.159 one or two. Uh so, the stage one being the booster, 173 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:15.679 stage two being the ship. So Matt, it's there's so 174 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:19.480 many and a lot of them would wouldn't if I 175 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:21.320 got into the details, but people would be like, I 176 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:25.000 don't know what you're talking about, you know, because give me, Well, 177 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.200 it's gonna be like like a little valve here, and 178 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:31.279 a line change here, and a routing wiring routing change there, 179 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:34.159 and a bunch of tweaks to the software. And so 180 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:35.759 it's a whole bunch of things that that are not 181 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:41.440 like as easy to describe as upgrading the heat shield. 182 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:43.879 And yeah, there's. 183 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:53.240 Yeah, now there's there's a much more significant change coming 184 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:55.639 in a couple of flights from now. 185 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:58.159 I think it's shift seven. 186 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:02.679 Where we move the the forward flaps more towards the rear. 187 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:05.519 So this is why it bugged me as a kind 188 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.320 of design mistake be made with the ship initially, which is. 189 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.159 To have the the forward. 190 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:14.200 Flaps be symmetric with the rear flaps, where the forward 191 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:19.960 flaps are at one hundred and eighty degrees and and 192 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.399 you really actually want the forward flaps to be kind 193 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:27.159 of in the lee of the wind. Because this is 194 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.720 I'm courtious about getting into too much technical detail that 195 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:33.759 that maybe doesn't. 196 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:37.639 Makes sense if you don't know about like rock. 197 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.240 Steers itself, as it's kind of like a skydiver where 198 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:47.039 the flaps are like your the Ford flip that like 199 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.279 arms and legs, so it's really different from a plane. 200 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:59.240 It's it's like and then the the forward flaps, you 201 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.279 really don't want the forward flaps to be visible to 202 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:03.519 the airflow. 203 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:06.960 Because the you're really. 204 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:11.759 Trying desperately to not have the engine side rotate forward 205 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:12.679 and get into. 206 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:18.039 The hot plasma. So the with I think it shift seven, 207 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:21.320 the forward flaps get smaller. 208 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:25.200 And they they kind of go they rotate back. I 209 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:28.840 mean they're they're there, They're changed position instead of being 210 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:30.600 one hundred eight degrees. Is like I don't know, maybe 211 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:31.960 one hundred and fifty degrees. 212 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:34.120 So, and so. 213 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:38.440 The forward flaps are really just used as trim flaps, 214 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:41.279 so they basically in a nutshell, the flaps get smaller 215 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:48.000 and lighter the paler it improves, and and then then 216 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:51.440 this can continue to improves the heat shields, uh, the 217 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:55.000 engines get better, so we're able to run the engines 218 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:59.799 a higher thrust with more reliability. 219 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:00.679 And then. 220 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:07.720 A really big step change will be maybe in the 221 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:12.120 next year or something like that, where we get rid 222 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.320 of the base heat shield and the ship heat shield 223 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:17.480 at the engine the engine side heat shields, so the 224 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:20.399 engines are do not need to be encapsulated. With the 225 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:26.440 next big revision of the raptor engine, which which. 226 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.279 Is quite tricky, but but that. 227 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:29.799 That eliminates a lot of mass at the base of 228 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:33.759 the vehicle and at the base of the ship. The 229 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.679 base of the ship and the booster both get a 230 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:38.840 lot lighter, and the engines are more robust. 231 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.279 There's a lot of starship technical detail here, but. 232 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.840 And and then also the payload will be comfortably above 233 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.639 one hundred tons to a useful little bit, so one 234 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:57.039 hundred tons useful but with full re usability, where the 235 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:59.600 booster in the ship come back to the launch site. 236 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:05.240 Means that the cost per ton to orbit is maybe 237 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:08.000 about one hundred times less than it has been in 238 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:14.559 the past. And this is what would enable life to 239 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:22.519 extend beyond Earth and build a self sustaining city on Mars, 240 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:27.759 which would maximize the probable life span of consciousness by. 241 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:33.559 Many millennia, if not millions of years. 242 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.679 I'm going to pass it over to Calvin after this. 243 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:41.440 But one thing that's incredible about you, Evon is how 244 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.720 much in the weeds you are. I don't think I've 245 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.120 ever seen any leader at any company be so involved 246 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.320 in the weeds. And the fact that you can go 247 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:55.919 as high and as low literally it's just truly amazing. 248 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:57.840 So I'm going to pass it over to Calvin. 249 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:01.120 But that's just one thing that I've noticed about you, 250 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:04.080 is that you're highly involved in everything you're doing, and 251 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:07.559 you're able to step out bird's eye but also get 252 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:08.799 into the weeds. 253 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:10.360 Yeah. 254 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.039 Well, I mean I drive the engineering design at the companies, 255 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:20.600 so that that's like relatively unusual, you know, But that's 256 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.200 that's I mean, that's I think a big part of 257 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:30.000 why the companies succeed is because I understand the engineering. 258 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:32.519 And I know. 259 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:36.919 When somebody you know, my judgment whether somebody is great 260 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:43.320 at engineering or design, it's just it's quite good. So 261 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:48.919 in terms of really having the most talented people giving 262 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:51.320 them the most response responsibility, if if you if you 263 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:54.960 don't actually understand the engineering, then then how. 264 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.679 Do you know that somebody is a good engineer? So 265 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:00.559 those really important. 266 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:08.399 So that's uh, I think, you know, we're very talented team, 267 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.159 but but in order to know that somebody is talented 268 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.840 must also understand the engineering. 269 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:24.799 Elon, we're gonna shift gears and talk about Tesla. 270 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.159 Who that's good. 271 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:33.120 This is the Tesla takeover, now the ex takeover, but 272 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.240 we do Tesla takeovers all over the world. 273 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:39.200 Now that's cool. Thanks. 274 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:41.559 By the way, guys, I just want to say thanks 275 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:42.399 a lot for your sport. 276 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:48.320 I super appreciated. Thank you, And. 277 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.080 I know Calvin's going to follow up with a question, 278 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.600 but I just wanted to say thank you from our 279 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:56.320 organization for the support. 280 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.159 I'm literally twenty eighteen and got my Tesla. 281 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:01.559 Started driving it, and I can't believe the amount of 282 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:05.079 fun out there on it and fake news, especially even 283 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:05.759 in the Bay Area. 284 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:08.920 And so that's always been that way. You know, it's fun. 285 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.920 Into two getting into this community and creating now these 286 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:16.880 epic events. 287 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.720 Uh so, but I'll pass it over to Calvin. 288 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.920 Yeah, elon So obviously a lot of Tesla fans here 289 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:27.200 as well as SpaceX. But regarding on the Tesla side, 290 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.920 can you give us any updates on any future models? 291 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:33.279 Obviously the robot taxi is coming up, you know. 292 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.920 I mean, I can't quite I can't do like product announcements. 293 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:38.680 At the takeovers. 294 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:39.119 Just joking. 295 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:44.640 I mean, I think the the you know, a lot 296 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:46.519 of what I've said I said on the Owning School 297 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.319 or I try to, you know, say what I think 298 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:55.519 on ownings call. But the the overwhelmingly important thing is 299 00:17:55.519 --> 00:18:02.079 is achieving unsupervised for self driving. So this is really 300 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:05.960 profound and hopefully a lot of you have gotten the 301 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.079 chance to use uh twelve point five or at least 302 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:13.359 twelve point three point six. So the you know, the 303 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:16.880 Tesla AI team, and it's it's a couple of hundred. 304 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.000 It's not a huge team. It's it's just a few 305 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:23.559 hundred super talented engineers. But I do want to emphasize 306 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:26.720 that it's uh, you know, it's it's obviously way more 307 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:28.920 than me, and but it's also it's more than a show. 308 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:33.079 And and uh, it's it's like it's it's it's like 309 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.079 tough to recognize like two hundred people, but I just 310 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.839 do want to emphasize that there's there's it was actually 311 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.000 a little more than two hundred people that that that 312 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:44.880 are really responsible for the full self driving software side. 313 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.680 And then we've got a great chip design team because 314 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.720 you need the chip to chip, you know, the chip 315 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:54.319 it's going to run on something, So the Tesla AI 316 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:58.319 chip hardware three and harder of full and then upcoming 317 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:00.559 hardware five which will probably be in volume production in 318 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:07.599 twenty six, Yeah, twenty six. There's a really great, great, 319 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:14.799 great trip team. And then we've also got a great 320 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.079 training cluster team. Like it's actually very hard to run 321 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.960 a lot To build and run a large and video 322 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:24.200 training cluster is it takes a lot of skill and 323 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:29.880 a lot of work. So you know, teams cranking twenty 324 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:34.640 four to seven building the South extension to the gigafactory 325 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:39.839 in Austin. And I was actually just talking the team 326 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:44.279 last night being good progress for installing the servers. But 327 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:46.279 I do it's like some of the people think I 328 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:48.640 just buying video you know GPUs and plug them in 329 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:50.759 and they start the training run, and if you go 330 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.559 this is not the case at all. 331 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:54.799 It's super hard. 332 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:59.880 Actually, the in fact, one of the tricky things that 333 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:03.960 is kind of interesting with if you've got if you've 334 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:08.079 got a large Nvidia training run, or in any kind 335 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:13.960 of like large training run, the power fluctuations are unlike 336 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:18.920 anything you ever see anywhere else, because the the GPU 337 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:24.319 is all running with extreme precision. It's it's like a symphony, 338 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:28.839 like this massive symphony with you know, in the case 339 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:34.200 of the installation in at PA Texas will be fifty thousand. 340 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:38.720 It's like imagine fifty thousand instruments all moving in symphony, 341 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.440 and that what that actually causes, it's like actually extremely difficult, 342 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:47.920 like a nightmare electrically because when the when the GPUs 343 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:50.680 go up, the power goes up, and the GPUs go down, 344 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:54.440 power goes and this can happen at like one hundred 345 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:59.519 millisecond intervals. So it's it's actually quite a difficult thing electrically. 346 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:03.480 It sounds like a light it's quite kind of like 347 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:04.759 a light show. It's it's. 348 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:10.440 The it's just you're just get these dramatic changes in 349 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:13.960 power droll and so you and and when you got 350 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:17.119 fifty megawatts, that can go from thirty megawatts down to 351 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:20.880 twenty megalt wats in one hundred bioseconds, Like that's just 352 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:21.599 very unusual. 353 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:24.039 So back up again. 354 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.920 Anyway, So it's it's actually quite challenged, So shout out 355 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.799 to the Tesla team for that is, you know, building 356 00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:34.160 and operating the training center. So it's it's it's it's 357 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:36.720 really it's like quite a few pieces of the puzzle 358 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:39.200 that need to be done. And then we've got to 359 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:44.079 record record a lot of data uh and and uh 360 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:44.720 you know, and. 361 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:46.839 Feed that into the training system. 362 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:51.319 But then the net result is that it's it's really 363 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:53.079 signed to become quite compelling. 364 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:57.759 I think with twelve point five, and. 365 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.799 As I mentioned publicly, we've increased the number of parameters 366 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:03.160 by back to a five. 367 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:08.559 Now this one can simply increase parameters. 368 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:16.279 One does not simply increase parameters. It's it's uh, unless 369 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:19.680 those parameters are useful and done in the right way, 370 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:24.119 it's just it's it doesn't matter. 371 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:26.599 You actually have to have the parameters be the right. 372 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:29.160 Each parameter is like a number, but the numbers have 373 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:34.279 to be correct, and you can think of what like 374 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:37.200 what what the AI is trying to do is effectively 375 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:41.720 compress reality. So it's trying to say, like, okay, we're 376 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.319 taking all this video in trying to understand reality compress 377 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:53.680 it down to you know, a few gigabytes really, although 378 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:55.839 also I think it's gonna that's deadily expanding and we'll 379 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:58.480 probably end up being twenty gigabytes soon. 380 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:00.640 But we're trying to compress reality. 381 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.920 Into I don't know, a few gigabytes is pretty hard. 382 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:11.559 And because our the inference computer in the car is 383 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:16.039 much weaker than say a GPU in a service center. 384 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:23.039 It's it's only got like maybe fifteen to twenty percents 385 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:30.319 much power, and so in order to make if your 386 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.000 inference computer is relatively weak, then you have to spend 387 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:36.799 actually more effort on the training side in order to 388 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:45.119 make up for the week inference computer. Anyway, So but 389 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:51.200 it is working. I think it's doing really well, and 390 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:54.880 I think we'll see Wrapp continue to wrap it improvements 391 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:58.920 each passing week. 392 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:05.160 Speaking of light shows, Eline, I just want to say 393 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.599 thank you for reposting and sharing our late show from. 394 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:08.880 X to takeover. Appreciate it. 395 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:17.079 Sure, So I want to talk about battery technologies. What 396 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:20.039 advancements are you most excited about in terms of battery 397 00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:24.440 technology and how will they impact the range of inefficiencies 398 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:26.160 of future Tesla's. 399 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:31.799 Well, the I think it's important to note that even 400 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:32.279 if there. 401 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:37.119