WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:06.120 Hell, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the first episode 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:09.759 of the Evil Dead Retrospective. I am the tree Hugger 3 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:11.560 Tress Now and I'm joined by. 4 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:14.199 I'm the Necromancer at Kirkland Patzer. 5 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.559 I am the Possessed Dylomas. 6 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:20.480 I'm Book of the Dead Taylor Field. 7 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:23.480 Yes, yes, and we are doing this retrospective not just 8 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:25.399 because of s Bubbs He'd asked a few times, but 9 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.760 we were doing this because in April, Evil Dead Rise 10 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:31.199 is coming out. It is the fifth entry into the 11 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:35.520 Evil Dead saga franchise, whatever it may be. You know, 12 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:37.479 there's a video game out there as well, which I'm 13 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:39.079 excited to play because at this time it's free in 14 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:41.159 PlayStation Plus, so I'm excited to get in there and 15 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.399 try it out for the first time at some point. 16 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:47.359 But yes, this is gonna be looking back at the 17 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:50.520 majority of Sam Raimi doing Evil Den. Then there's one 18 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.240 other one as well, but yeah, there's four films. We'll 19 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:55.799 be doing all four. We'll watch Rise. Of course, we'll 20 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:58.119 do a rankings episode of rankings cut on news stuff 21 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.840 like that. But yeah, too, work can they find all 22 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:01.679 the good jazz that we do? 23 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:07.239 Everything you can find us with your connection in the 24 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:09.319 search bark geek covers not says our home base, geek 25 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:11.879 ers Cast is our Twitter and geek Versus is our Facebook. 26 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:15.760 Yeah, everything we do stand below Evil Dead retro. We're 27 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.000 starting now, Patrons, you'd be gett John Wick already. You 28 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.480 could get an X Men one. We're doing Indiana Jones 29 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:24.200 coming up soon. We're doing to Faux one later on 30 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:25.840 the year with you. The patrons are gonna get to 31 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:27.760 vote and decide what we do. We're gonna do like 32 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.560 a one off. 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I want to starry about this, 43 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:55.560 so I can't tell you about the first time I 44 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.239 saw us because I gotta wait till Evil that too. 45 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.040 And there's like a better story there, but I had 46 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:02.480 seen too before I saw one. But anyway, so we'll 47 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:05.079 get to that when we get to two. But I 48 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.639 think with this movie there's two minds of it as 49 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:09.879 of just watching as a film. 50 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:10.639 I love it. 51 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:14.439 It's yeah, there's there's some cheesy and low budgetess too it, 52 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.719 but like it's scary. It has a great pace to it. 53 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:20.080 It just goes up and up. It just I just 54 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.120 feel like the way that when we watch Hereditary or 55 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:26.159 Midsomar or Lighthouse, I I mentionine, that's how people must 56 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:29.080 have felt in eighty one, like seeing this, Like nowadays 57 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:30.599 you see this stuff like, oh yeah, we've seen some 58 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:32.960 crazy shit. But back then, she's like some of the 59 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:35.039 things that happened, like including my name, I couldn't I 60 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:36.919 saw some young age just like I couldn't believe, like 61 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:40.000 what's going on in this with the film and stuff 62 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.120 like that. So the film, it's a quick everything. I 63 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:45.960 love it. I've seen it almost so many times that 64 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.039 he felt I didn't need to watch for this retrospective. 65 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.599 But I love the film the more. What I like 66 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.039 about it is just like it's just the definition of 67 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:57.039 like rock and roll independent filmmaking. It has a budget 68 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.199 of three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars and I 69 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:02.800 got some trivia, but it's just like after I'll read 70 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:05.039 some facts, but go on the IMDb and read this. 71 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:06.759 I want them to do like a fall and documentary 72 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.280 because like what they did to get this movie going 73 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:11.919 and that thing, it's just like Sam Raimi's first movie. 74 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.840 It's Palls the Wall. They just go for it, and 75 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.479 it's just like it's a small crew and again, like 76 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:19.599 to me, it's not even a million dollar budget, and 77 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:23.240 I don't think it feels like lower tiers as far 78 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.919 as like what you could imagine what a big movie 79 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.039 might be look like. But I think what they did 80 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.080 with what they had is incredible. Like this is like 81 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:33.400 a guy that had nothing to his name him and Bruce, 82 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.439 Oh god, why am I forgetting him? Thank you? They're 83 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:39.759 like taking out loans and stuff from banks just to 84 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:42.599 get this, and like it's just such a it's someone 85 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.560 that like wants to do the filmmaking thing. I watch, 86 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.560 it's like, man, they really did something special and found 87 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:49.639 like uh kind of lightning in a bottle. And that's 88 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:51.120 why the seconde's a bit different because they had a 89 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.120 bitterer budget and there's a whole different spin to it. 90 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:56.240 But this first one, I just I'm always so impressed 91 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:58.719 with it, and it's just genuinely scary. It's one of 92 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:00.680 these movie that I do watch every how. It's just 93 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.879 some of the sounds these creatures makes, and some of 94 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:07.280 the visuals and how ramps up to just being oh 95 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:09.319 something scary in the woods to where we get the end. 96 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.280 It's just some awful stuff. So I absolutely love this movie. 97 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.519 But del Mass, have you had any experience with Evil 98 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:18.000 Dead and if not, what did you think of this 99 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:19.519 go around for yourself? 100 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:20.399 Yeah? 101 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:24.399 Really, no experience whatsoever. I feel like I only heard 102 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:26.560 about it maybe when you guys talk about the podcast 103 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.839 here or there, or more recently in recent times with 104 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.160 s Bubs, just knowing that he's always praising these things. 105 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.399 But I remember, like even when we did the Spider 106 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.279 Mind No Way Home review and Bruce Campbell has like 107 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:40.519 that character in there, Like on the review, I had 108 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:41.920 to ask you guys, like, I don't know who this 109 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:43.480 guy is. I don't know if I've ever seen in 110 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.680 a movie before, had no idea who he was. So 111 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.079 I really didn't like I guess I never thought about 112 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.480 what did Sam Raimi do before Spider Man. 113 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.639 I never thought back on his career in that way. 114 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:58.199 So, yeah, never seen any of these movies, and truthfully, 115 00:04:58.199 --> 00:04:59.759 I don't really know anything about them. I know, Bruce 116 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.120 cam there, Yeah, I assume there's some sort of undead 117 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:05.360 that is it. Like I feel like these ones have 118 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.639 somehow remained maybe cult movies in a way that they 119 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:11.360 are not a point where like everyone's spoiling things. There's 120 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:13.920 like there's some iconic scene that people are always referencing. 121 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:16.519 I feel like it's lived in obscurity, which kind of 122 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:20.160 I guess fits for what it is. And you know, Travis, 123 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:22.519 you're talking about so much about like how the rock 124 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:24.360 and roll nature of this and how it is so 125 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.079 hard to make it, and how this is Sam Raimi's 126 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.240 first movie. To me, you know, I look at it 127 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.279 from outside of all that. This felt absolutely like this 128 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:37.439 is someone's first time making a movie. I did not 129 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:40.319 like this pretty much at all. There was honestly very 130 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.160 little in here that I found any value in This 131 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:45.680 was this movie was absolutely not for me. And you know, 132 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.560 there's an element to it where it's like, Okay, you 133 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:50.959 can try and remove yourself from your situation and think back. 134 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.959 This came out so long ago, forty years ago, and 135 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.360 maybe I can give it some concessions for doing that, 136 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.680 But at the same time, that's not gonna like really 137 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.240 drastically improve my enjoyment of it. And it sounds like 138 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:05.920 the story of the making this is interesting, so that's cool. 139 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.439 I'd like to look into that. But yeah, in terms 140 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.759 of like, I did not find this scary pretty much 141 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.040 at all. There's a couple effects elements that I thought 142 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.720 looked cool, but for the most part didn't really work 143 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:20.680 for me. I don't need a woman getting raped by 144 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.439 a tree and my movie is like that to me, Like, 145 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.160 he just does not. It's just so cringe and not 146 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:27.160 in like a good cringe. 147 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.040 It's just like this is stupid. So yeah, there's there's 148 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:31.160 very little liked but this. 149 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:35.120 I think the characters, like Bruce Campbell's character's fine. I 150 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.120 think he just has like anl like it's weird, he's 151 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.199 never I don't know, maybe he's had like a really 152 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:41.959 powerful career or something, but he just has like movie 153 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.519 star energy to him in this, Like I got that vibe, 154 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:47.360 even though like I don't know anything else about him, 155 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.920 but everyone else is just like whatever. So I'm sorry, 156 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:52.800 s pubbs. I'm sorry to everyone who loves this, but 157 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:55.240 I kind of wait to hear why you guy, why why? 158 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.360 At least Travis and presume the other guy you either 159 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.399 two liked this thing. But yeah, it did very little 160 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:00.680 for me. 161 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.800 You know alone. Though there's many people that aren't a 162 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:06.439 fan of these movies. Especially as we go on, the 163 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:10.399 tongue in cheek nature gets a lot more heavy and 164 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:12.399 stuff like that. It starts to lean into the more 165 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.759 comedic side, and uh yeah, it's it's, it's it. That's 166 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:17.439 I think that's probably the reason why they are more 167 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.759 of the cult followings, because they're not a they're not 168 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:23.120 a wildly loved ones. But uh, Kirkham pats Er, had 169 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.480 you ever seen any Evil Dead? And if so, where 170 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:26.040 are you on this? 171 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.879 I absolutely have I Evil Dead has a big, uh 172 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:34.680 big standing in the pats Are household, My my, my 173 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:37.680 whole family we watched this again. I was probably well 174 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:39.959 too young to watch it, but for some reason, my 175 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.879 dad just thought I was ready And like we we 176 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.600 reference so many seats, like just lines and sequence from 177 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:49.920 these movies, like in My Household, especially like at my 178 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:52.759 family's house or at my family's house. At my parents' house, 179 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.480 they have like a trapdoor situation, which is just like 180 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:58.319 the evil dead door where they have like it's not 181 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:00.639 an actual chain on theirs, but like every time we 182 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:03.319 go down there, I'm just picturing some like possessed person 183 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:05.000 to grab me or whatnot. And like we just always 184 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.360 reference it as like the evil dead door and then 185 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:07.759 just like. 186 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:10.439 Swallow your soul, Swallow your soul. That wasn't in this movie. 187 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:12.920 It's in a later one, but like I yeah, we 188 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:15.680 love this movie so much, and it's I think it 189 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:18.600 is very much that though where like from Dylan's point 190 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:20.360 of view, like if I didn't have any of those 191 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:23.360 like memories and just watched it like now, I probably 192 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:26.879 wouldn't have like it wouldn't have hit hard like at all, 193 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:28.800 and I probably would have been more on his side 194 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:31.560 of this. But yeah, just like I remember being a 195 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.200 little kid and like seeing the first time, like some 196 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.519 of these characters just get possessed and like fuck just 197 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:41.200 the gore involved like in it. And like I knew 198 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.799 it was his first movie, Sam Raimi. I knew it 199 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:45.279 was a lower budget. I didn't realize it was three 200 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.720 hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. Like to me, that's 201 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.559 crazy with how much like just blood and gore and 202 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.000 guts and stuff that they were like showing in these scenes. 203 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:57.679 And yeah, it's it's dated, but I think again it's 204 00:08:57.720 --> 00:08:59.879 probably because I'm bringing in my own like loving and 205 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.440 joyment for it. But like I just see these scenes 206 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:04.279 and appreciate it so much more for the fact that 207 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:06.519 it is like a lower budget and how they were 208 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:10.080 able to execute like you call it like like a 209 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:12.200 low budget like camera shot. But I just think it's 210 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:13.919 like so clever the way that they just have it 211 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:16.519 like on Bruce Campill's face in like certain moments, whether 212 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.799 he's reacting to a scene or when he first goes 213 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:20.639 down in the basement, and it just does like the 214 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:22.639 little panoramic shot around. 215 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:23.399 Like very slowly. 216 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.480 Like I remember being a little kid in that scene 217 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:27.279 and just waiting for something to like jump out, Like 218 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:28.799 I was just so on the edge of my seat, 219 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.279 And like this movie very much scared the shit out 220 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:35.279 of me as a young kid, and just like the 221 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:37.720 whole lore with like I think they call it The 222 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.879 Book and the Dead. I've heard it called like the Necronomicon, 223 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:42.399 just like like the the book that's made out of 224 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:44.600 like human skin and there's just like a face on it. 225 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:46.799 Like that's just such a creepy concept, and then when 226 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:48.639 you read it, like just the spirits come out to 227 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.759 get you. So yeah, I've seen this movie I like 228 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:55.600 probably like five times in my entire life, but like 229 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:58.000 it's been a while since I have seen it. Uh 230 00:09:58.200 --> 00:09:59.759 So there was a lot of moments that I just 231 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:02.720 I kind of forgot the way that they went. Like 232 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:05.559 I knew like the main like I guess you'd call 233 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:08.919 it the landmark scenes like throughout the film, but the 234 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:12.000 way that we got there was kind of it was 235 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.399 kind of out of my memory. So it was very 236 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:18.960 fun to watch this one again. And yeah, I think 237 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:20.720 I'm just always gonna have like a special place in 238 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.039 my heart for this movie because, like I said, like 239 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.320 my family and I especially like me and my dad, 240 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:29.639 like we just always reference certain scenes from not just 241 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:33.440 this movie, but like throughout the Evil Dead series, especially, 242 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.120 Like I'm excited to get to those other ones again 243 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.080 because I feel like I've seen this one the most 244 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.519 and the most recent other than the latest remake. I 245 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:44.440 saw that around the time when that one came out. 246 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.200 But so yeah, I think it's gonna be a fun 247 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:48.840 retro for sure, especially like Traves you're alluding to, just 248 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:53.120 how much more comedic it kind of gets. I remember 249 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:55.320 that shift as a wee young lad, so I'm excited 250 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.440 to go through it again. And yeah, I'm excited to 251 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.360 just dive into this one, mister Field. 252 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.720 So this would be my first time actually watching this one. 253 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:10.679 I've watched Evil Dead two, Armory Darkness, the new remake 254 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.600 one that I watched Ash for Civil Dead a few times. 255 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:16.519 I love all those, watched the show. I'm surprised and 256 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:17.440 still not the first one. 257 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:21.080 I love the show Holy Shits Dead is fantastic, But 258 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:24.200 this one, I I don't think I ever got around 259 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:25.799 to it because it just kind of confused me because 260 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:29.559 the second one, I see people talking like it's a reboot, sequel, remake, whatever, 261 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:32.159 and so I just kind of thought, like, oh, I 262 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.360 just never went back to go and watch this one, 263 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.200 I guess, and like. 264 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:40.879 Like the second the second one is the. 265 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:44.120 One I've always I've watched a lot of and that one, 266 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:45.919 like we'll talk more about that when we get to 267 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.159 that retro. But going into this one, I thought It 268 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:51.399 was interesting because I've seen that remake and the remake, 269 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.720 and this one had like it's cool where I can 270 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.679 see like, Okay, they've connected things, and when I'm watching 271 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.000 this one, I think, okay, like I can kind of 272 00:11:58.039 --> 00:11:59.600 predict like where we're going to kind of go like 273 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:05.279 certain story paths here, and I thought like, okay, they're 274 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:07.039 doing this, this, this, and there are other things. I thought, well, 275 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:08.600 they're definitely not going to do this because like I 276 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.639 didn't see this represented any of the other evil that content, 277 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.679 So I imagine this is something that they did new 278 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.080 that was in the remake, but then no, they did 279 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:17.120 it in this original ones. 280 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:18.000 Okay, that's cool. 281 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:19.799 So the remake pulled from this and all that kind 282 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:23.600 of stuff like the the tree scene, which again I 283 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:24.679 don't really need. 284 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.960 That in my horror movies, the full shock core like 285 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:29.840 that's what it is. 286 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.279 Just shock, all right. 287 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:36.320 Yeah, But I think that the universe and the backstory 288 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:39.600 between the Necronomicon and the Dead Heights and everything that 289 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:41.559 they kind of create, I think it's very interesting. I 290 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:43.600 think if the way I see, like if you get 291 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:47.399 maimed by one of these things, you're fucked, and the 292 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.919 just the the concept of using the camera as. 293 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:52.039 Whatever this entity is. 294 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.039 It's like cruising through is such a it leaves it 295 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:58.080 up to your imagination what this thing could could be. 296 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.720 And I just I really really like that, and it's 297 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.480 something that I've never seen in a movie before. I 298 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:05.720 think this is definitely like kind of like a camera 299 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.360 work that's kind of put its stamp down of like certification, 300 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.639 like yeah, we've we've done this first, and like this 301 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.080 is our deal, like you said, Kirklum, doing close up 302 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.639 shots of like Campbell's expressions and stuff like that. 303 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:19.279 There's a lot of different angles that they they work 304 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.240 well with, and well, the they didn't need to do. 305 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:24.919 I don't know, I can't know if there was really 306 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.120 any kind of CGI stuff like that, Like there was 307 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:30.480 a lot of practical effects. The second one, Yeah, the 308 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.759 second one has like like amount of that, but but 309 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.639 like this one, Yeah, the use of practicality, I really 310 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:37.919 I appreciated it. 311 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.679 So I don't think CGI like technically existed back then. 312 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:43.759 It's just like, yeah, it's the special effects, like I mean, 313 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.919 like the Evil Dead two level special effects, because I 314 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.320 don't think I think this had maybe a tiny fraction 315 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:51.519 of something in it. 316 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:54.159 But well, like Dylan referred, I think you're talking about 317 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.039 like when things start to melt and stuff and the 318 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.120 books and everything, like they all start to raw and 319 00:13:58.240 --> 00:13:59.440 stuff or everything of that scene. 320 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:02.159 Yeah, yeah, the hands came out of their bodies and stuff. 321 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.159 Yeah, which stands out because it's like the whole movie 322 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.399 has been very gritty, dirty, realistic, and I like what 323 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.000 they're going for, but it's just like it looks very 324 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:12.600 I don't know, I don't know if that works the best, 325 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:14.759 but I get what they're going for, Like it looks 326 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:17.360 almost too fantastical for what it is. It looks almost 327 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.559 too bright and look like that thing is probably some 328 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:21.879 sort of clay or something like that where it's but 329 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:23.799 I can't. Oh yeah, I get what they're trying. 330 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.240 It's just it's you know, it reminded me of Indiana 331 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.039 Jones and the Lost Arc right when they're like melting 332 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:33.000 and like it's just everything's fallen off. So I and like, 333 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.840 because it's an eighty one movie, like I just kind 334 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:37.799 of look at it and like, man, like good on 335 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:40.200 them for like just they could do like yeah exactly, 336 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:42.639 like like going through all that effort of doing the 337 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:44.639 stop motion, because that's very much what it looked like 338 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.039 and that would have been a long time to do 339 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:47.759 those scenes. 340 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.279 I know Dylan's had some experience with the stop motion. 341 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:53.639 It can it can be pretty, uh pretty stressful in 342 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:54.559 my big career. 343 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.039 Your YouTube chat still live, go support subscribe. 344 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:00.360 Yeah, it's those super chat you know. 345 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.919 Yeah, Taylor you mentioned you you reminded me too with 346 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:06.399 the like the spirit cam. 347 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:08.960 I guess of like following with like the car in 348 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.240 the beginning and at the end, like going to Bruce Campbell. 349 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:11.799 Uh. 350 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.639 I can't remember if it was like Halo, Call of 351 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:16.879 Duty or CSGO or something, but one of those games 352 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.080 had like a free cam when you were dead and 353 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:20.759 you can just move it around like that, and I 354 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:22.879 just remember always I just like felt like I was 355 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:25.399 like that Spirit from Evil Dead, just like gunning through 356 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:28.159 like you're just like getting closer and closer to a character. 357 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:30.080 Just little games I would have with myself. 358 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.080 CSCO definitely did that because I remember being my friend's basement. 359 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.600 That's just what you're doing, you're dead and stuff like that. Yeah, 360 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.679 that's the stuff where I just look at it go 361 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:39.679 like how did they pull some of this stuff off? 362 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.039 Because like some of it's just them with a camera 363 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.080 run around, but it's like it doesn't ever to me 364 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.240 feel like that does feel like it's a floating thing. 365 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:47.879 Like there is one funny story where Bruce Campbell, like 366 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.600 the one over water, they had like Sam raimy on 367 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.080 some sort of like sheet of wood or something. So 368 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.919 he had like push Sam in the water while he 369 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:57.720 was doing the shop, but he wasn't touching the water. 370 00:15:57.799 --> 00:15:59.600 There's like all these tricks they use, and that's what 371 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.200 I love about it. But uh, yeah, that that I love. 372 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.360 It's just this olmonius just always and right when you 373 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.240 think it's over, it's always back and it could get 374 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.000 you at a moment and you don't know because you think, 375 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:11.559 can you break through glass in doors? In the beginning 376 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:13.080 the movie it can't, but then at the end it's 377 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.000 just tearing through those doors. And even then like I'm 378 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:17.480 looking at the doors, Okay, how do they pull us off? 379 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:19.679 How do they do this? Like it's just they're very 380 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:21.879 lucky they found this location and stuff like that. 381 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.320 So this is this is something I do when I 382 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:30.000 watch Goosebumps, specifically the slappy episodes. When I watch Evil 383 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:32.600 Dead as well, and they're reading off the verse, I'll 384 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:34.679 actually mute my TV just to mute a couple of lines. 385 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.519 It scares me. I kid you not, It just scares 386 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:39.120 me the like fucking daylights out. 387 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:40.840 And the same with Slappy too goosebumps. 388 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:42.600 I gotta mute that shit because I don't want fucking 389 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:43.919 something coming alive or anything. 390 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.159 You ever been twilled? Wis puppet just sitting? I don't know. 391 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:48.799 You just don't. 392 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:53.039 You don't read the line. But I think a good 393 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:54.600 place to start is I kind of went Dylan said. 394 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.000 I think for the reason you still see them and 395 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.679 stuff in Bruce Campbell, I think, And it's funny because 396 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:01.879 you got to co producer cred on this, like and 397 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:03.519 he put a lot of his own money in this 398 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:05.279 in the spine of a Star, and I think you 399 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.599 can depth like, I wonder what this movie is like 400 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:10.599 without him, you know. And this is coming from someone 401 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:12.759