Speaker 1: Joining me live in studio a fourteen year old teenage girl?
Speaker 2: Uh, what what is this? Porter?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: What did he make you play? What is this?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 4: Madison beer?
Speaker 2: Madison Beer? Also, what do we want familiar? What are
Speaker 2: we watching on television?
Speaker 4: I don't know. It was John Cena hosting wipe Out
Speaker 4: a minute ago.
Speaker 1: Which was no better than what we're watching now. It's
Speaker 1: some TNT movie. Dave Fox You okay with the headphones, with.
Speaker 3: The headphones, but I'm making it work. You think this
Speaker 3: place could afford?
Speaker 4: Okay? Did you say I got half an ear in
Speaker 4: Madison beer? Madison Beer?
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen minutes was the name of that song, all right,
Speaker 3: which is about how long I'm Gonna lie?
Speaker 1: That sounded like like Sabrina Carpenter like pop?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: Well, it's I mean it's it's basically d M. But
Speaker 3: she's yeah, she's a pop artist. It's still got a
Speaker 3: couple of really good songs.
Speaker 2: When did you get into ed M music?
Speaker 4: I've been in my entire life really so weird. I
Speaker 4: mean possible.
Speaker 3: It was new it was called new wave. They didn't
Speaker 3: have EDM. Well, disguise is a different name. Okay, that's funny.
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: Now, So you've you've always been in like house music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like house music when you were DJ Dave Fox.
Speaker 1: And I also like like, you know, eclectic me like
Speaker 1: ny that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Let's rock a little before you get out of it.
Speaker 3: I don't ever give you that you know, or or
Speaker 3: I'm a big enigma. Yeah, I'm a big enigma guy too.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you just run the spectrum.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Moby Moby, he does a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: And and to be clear, you're not constantly taking molly
Speaker 1: and listening to DM house music.
Speaker 2: You are drug free?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm just making sure because
Speaker 1: most people love E d M.
Speaker 2: They like the glow sticks and you know all that stuff.
Speaker 4: I just like I like the beat. I like the
Speaker 4: sound of it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm rocking when I'm driving down the screen.
Speaker 1: Well, you're an upbeat, positive guy. I've always been a
Speaker 1: glass half full, always have you?
Speaker 2: Sure? All right? So are you?
Speaker 4: I'm always looking forward?
Speaker 2: Are you glass full?
Speaker 1: About the Utah Jazz offseason project with a new basketball
Speaker 1: decision maker in charge?
Speaker 4: Well, if you're asking me about the hire, I think
Speaker 4: it's good. I think it's too you know what.
Speaker 3: We spent hours after this announcement trying to figure out
Speaker 3: exactly what the hierarchy was, and Ryan Smith made it
Speaker 3: very clear that Austin Age is the guy. He an
Speaker 3: Ange even you know, mentions that he did, you know,
Speaker 3: wisely mention that everything runs through Ryan. Ultimately he is,
Speaker 3: you know, after all, the governor of the team. So
Speaker 3: I and you know, it's not like anybody wants to
Speaker 3: throw out the old nepotism thing. Maybe he got a
Speaker 3: little help to this kicking off his career, but he's
Speaker 3: made a name for himself, we know that, and he's
Speaker 3: done a very good job of that. And if he
Speaker 3: hadn't gotten this job, he was sooner or later he's
Speaker 3: going to be a team president somewhere. It was just
Speaker 3: gonna happen. That's the trajectory he's on. And I think
Speaker 3: Ryan even mentioned that that he thought that that might
Speaker 3: have happened last year and that he missed his opportunities.
Speaker 3: So I think it's a good hire. It gives the
Speaker 3: organization even more voices, which they probably need.
Speaker 4: I don't know how much.
Speaker 3: I think we all know Danny doesn't want to, you know,
Speaker 3: kill himself working and he shouldn't. He's earned you know,
Speaker 3: whatever semi retirement you want to call it. Xana's been
Speaker 3: through some health things, so there's a lot of I mean,
Speaker 3: this is good, This is really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the nepotism thing.
Speaker 1: In fact, Porter, since Dave brought it up, I want
Speaker 1: you to take the opportunity to remind Dave and our
Speaker 1: audience what the official stance is of the Drive as
Speaker 1: it pertains to nepotism.
Speaker 4: Yeah, officially from this show. They tell your sudden this too, Dave. No,
Speaker 4: nepotism can't win with him?
Speaker 2: Don't like it?
Speaker 3: Are we are anti nepotism on the show? Okay, but
Speaker 3: that's fine. But that's what I just said. By the way,
Speaker 3: my son's an attorney. He's not even in the media,
Speaker 3: so that's never.
Speaker 2: Going to choosing you of nepotism.
Speaker 3: I don't think your son's Walton in here anytime. So no,
Speaker 3: I've seen Andrew on the sideline before.
Speaker 2: With some sidelines, Fox not a box.
Speaker 1: I just want to be clear that the audience knows
Speaker 1: the official stance of the Drive as we are anti neputibes.
Speaker 3: Well, then I'm guessing you agree with me that there
Speaker 3: isn't a blatant piece of nepotism on this or do
Speaker 3: you not agree with me?
Speaker 2: No, Dave, it's a bit.
Speaker 1: It's a bit because our textures don't really understand that
Speaker 1: I'm being facetious because I have a famous father.
Speaker 2: It's a bit that we do on the show. But no,
Speaker 2: here's the deal.
Speaker 4: Like in my case, I am the famous, you are.
Speaker 2: No, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Like Danny's pedigree speaks for itself. He doesn't need me
Speaker 1: to stand up for him, and Austin's pedigree speaks for itself.
Speaker 1: He worked for the Boston Celtics for seventeen years. The
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics have been the pre eminent franchise in pro
Speaker 1: basketball along with the Lakers, well really forever, but certainly
Speaker 1: the modern day edition of the Boston Celtics after they
Speaker 1: made it out of that weird like an Swan Walker
Speaker 1: phase and started winning championships, Austin's had a front row
Speaker 1: seat for all of it. Brad Stevens is one of
Speaker 1: the most respected basketball people period, and Danny's been out
Speaker 1: of Boston now for I think four and a half
Speaker 1: almost five years. If Austin wasn't good at his job,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let him stick around just because he was
Speaker 1: Danny's kid.
Speaker 2: He left.
Speaker 1: He he has a resume that indicates he has qualified
Speaker 1: for the job he's been hired for. I find it
Speaker 1: interesting that apparently Danny and Justin are reporting to Austin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that part's interesting. But if he just fires his dad, Dad,
Speaker 1: you're playing too much golf.
Speaker 3: Here's the part I don't get is how and I
Speaker 3: don't know that much about how companies, you know, break
Speaker 3: down their levels of leadership. But is it the CEO
Speaker 3: generally the top guy? Yeah, I had the president. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but look, here's here's the deal.
Speaker 4: Like, get that.
Speaker 1: And Porter brought this up earlier. You know, Danny technically
Speaker 1: retired when he left the Celtics.
Speaker 4: That's true, he did.
Speaker 1: He wanted to move out here, so you know, I've
Speaker 1: known the ages of my entire life. Okay, So the
Speaker 1: deal with Danny is he's not one of these guys
Speaker 1: that just says, you know, I want time to spend
Speaker 1: with my family and then goes and travels to Europe
Speaker 1: for six months out of the year.
Speaker 2: Danny is a committed.
Speaker 1: Father and grandfather and wanted to move out to Utah
Speaker 1: because the majority of his kids are here, so he
Speaker 1: retires from Boston. And also remember he definitely had one
Speaker 1: heart attack, and I think he may have had two.
Speaker 1: He had heart issues at the end of his time
Speaker 1: with Boston, so he left to retire to take care
Speaker 1: of himself, to move out here to be with his family,
Speaker 1: and he did not move out here with a plan
Speaker 1: of working for Ryan. Ryan recruited Danny for months before
Speaker 1: this transaction actually became official, because Danny made it very clear,
Speaker 1: I want freedom to see my grandkids. I like my
Speaker 1: tea times at Riverside. I'm going to play golf, okay,
Speaker 1: so if you want me involved. It really has been
Speaker 1: more or less a quasi senior advisor role. The title
Speaker 1: is CEO, but Danny's not a Desions Bank basketball center.
Speaker 1: Every day at seven am. He's present for games. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's present for these workouts. I'm sure he's president
Speaker 1: draft rooms. But I think this is even a further
Speaker 1: indication that Danny might take another step in the direction
Speaker 1: of just living the rest of his life the way
Speaker 1: he wants to live his life. And I don't begrudge
Speaker 1: anybody for paving a pat like if you don't know
Speaker 1: what it's like to be a parent, and how badly
Speaker 1: you would do anything to make sure your children have
Speaker 1: a good path in life.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't have an issue like so Ryan said, I
Speaker 1: didn't tell Danny that I was hiring Austin. No part
Speaker 1: of me believes that. No part of me believes that
Speaker 1: for a second. We'll get to the other parts of
Speaker 1: the stuff. I don't believe either. But if Danny even
Speaker 1: had a small part to play in this decision, I
Speaker 1: don't have an issue with it at all, because he
Speaker 1: is going to potentially step away at some point entirely,
Speaker 1: and he knows that his kid's got a great opportunity
Speaker 1: to build a team with a job that will take
Speaker 1: care of he and his family forever.
Speaker 2: It's a great thing altogether.
Speaker 1: But again, the bottom line is Austin has a resume
Speaker 1: that indicates he has qualified for the job.
Speaker 3: Yes, and maybe in Danny's case, we're reading too much
Speaker 3: into the title of CEO. Now They'll take, for instance,
Speaker 3: a lot of guys who owned big companies, big corporations.
Speaker 3: The first thing they do when they retire is they
Speaker 3: become what the chairman of the board. Maybe, well, there
Speaker 3: isn't a chairman of the board for the Jazz. So
Speaker 3: maybe CEO is that version of chairman of the board
Speaker 3: in the case of you know how Ryan sets everything up.
Speaker 3: But again, getting back to your point, Austin's proven himself,
Speaker 3: and he's proven himself repeatedly this year. They stumbled towards
Speaker 3: the end, but they didn't panic, like, oh, a certain
Speaker 3: team in New York did?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Did they did? The Knicks? Did they fire their coach?
Speaker 2: Knicks?
Speaker 4: And the Jets?
Speaker 2: They fired my guy? They fired my guy?
Speaker 4: How much did you really like that guy?
Speaker 2: Though? Tom? I love them? Okay? Oh yeah, Tom? Forever
Speaker 2: he was just assistant.
Speaker 4: Why don't they bring back Van Gundy?
Speaker 1: He's on the Vegas list of the Vegas released a
Speaker 1: list of sads, and Jeff is like, but Malone is
Speaker 1: the highest.
Speaker 2: Malone is one and one. He's a New York guy too.
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to turn right there on that.
Speaker 1: No, no, But ultimately I just think it was a
Speaker 1: scenario where Danny didn't agree to come work for Ryan
Speaker 1: unless Ryan agreed that Danny was going to be able
Speaker 1: to have freedom. And I think that that kind of
Speaker 1: remains in place, and I think Austin's hiring indicates that
Speaker 1: freedom might be something Danny wants. Even more so, Austin
Speaker 1: has a reputation in pro basketball is somebody that understands
Speaker 1: a cap, somebody that's drafted well, somebody that's conducted workouts
Speaker 1: and has been able to find bit pieces to surround
Speaker 1: the star players that Boston.
Speaker 2: Had and won championships.
Speaker 1: Austin Ainge has a championship bring okay, So like his
Speaker 1: pedigree speaks for itself.
Speaker 2: I do wonder where Xanak is with this entire thing,
Speaker 2: and honestly don't know.
Speaker 3: But I think I feel like Xanik after his last
Speaker 3: medical situation kind of referred to I didn't say he
Speaker 3: wanted to step back, but he's he's been through a
Speaker 3: lot as well, and maybe maybe this will help him.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not such a bad thing to you know,
Speaker 3: you there's a lot that goes into this when you're
Speaker 3: looking for players and you're scouting, and you're in you're
Speaker 3: in Europe, and you're all over the world, and hey,
Speaker 3: the more eyeballs you have, the better.
Speaker 4: So but I can't, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've never neither of us have had a conversation with
Speaker 3: Justin to ask him exactly what he feel about that.
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting that, well, Danny Ainge was
Speaker 3: at the press conference yesterday, but he was kind of
Speaker 3: just in the back. He wasn't up on the podium,
Speaker 3: and that's the way it should have been. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was, you know, the guy that hired Austin and Austin.
Speaker 3: But that's a good question. But I'm not as cynical
Speaker 3: as you to believe that maybe Ryan didn't tell Danny
Speaker 3: he had hired his son. Maybe no, wait, wait a second,
Speaker 3: maybe he told him, I'm hey, I'm having some conversation
Speaker 3: with your son, but didn't flat out tell him, oh,
Speaker 3: I hired him until after he had hired it, or
Speaker 3: I'm going to hire him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, But again it gets back to the glass
Speaker 4: half full. That's me.
Speaker 3: I'm you know, you're more America's guests, and you know
Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: We all have our I wish I believe, we all
Speaker 1: have our suspicions that Disneyland was a real place and
Speaker 1: not a theme park day.
Speaker 2: I wish I believed in children's fairy tales too.
Speaker 3: I just what do you mean it's not a real place.
Speaker 3: I've been going there my whole life. It is a
Speaker 3: real place, and it's a lot of fun. I live
Speaker 3: in the real world.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the other part of me will exist where
Speaker 1: I'm a cynic and you're a glass at full.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think they're not gonna tank next year? You
Speaker 3: know your buddy asked that question and the answer let
Speaker 3: me Yeah. I think Austin's answer was like three words,
Speaker 3: you know, it said, you want to see that, you
Speaker 3: want to see this here? What's he supposed to say?
Speaker 3: He can't literally answer a question that's phrased that way
Speaker 3: with yeah, we're gonna tank again, let's go.
Speaker 4: They got fined for taking they're not.
Speaker 3: The question that was asked was asked in such a
Speaker 3: way that that's the only possible response he could have gotten.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not as cynical as you to believe that
Speaker 2: he had to say what he had to say.
Speaker 4: He can't say yeah, we're tanking.
Speaker 1: So so, ultimately, just no part of me believes that
Speaker 1: they are going to put their best foot forward to
Speaker 1: try to win as many games as they can next year.
Speaker 2: It would actually be the direct wrong line to take.
Speaker 3: Hey, that part, I agree with you, but I don't
Speaker 3: begrudge Austin's answer.
Speaker 2: No, first of all, I thought it was an awesome SoundBite.
Speaker 2: I thought it was great.
Speaker 1: It was like I dropped them like you're not going
Speaker 1: to see that next year, and then boom silence, and
Speaker 1: everybody's like, okay, good a new direction.
Speaker 3: But the fact that he invoked the word tanking into
Speaker 3: the question that made that answer perfectly honest in a way,
Speaker 3: because there are so many different ways to manipulate your record.
Speaker 3: And by the way, didn't we learn this year you
Speaker 3: don't have to finish dead last. Let's be honest.
Speaker 4: They just need to be in the bottom eight, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: to preserve well.
Speaker 1: And that's the issue, I mean, as much as anything
Speaker 1: else this year, based off of where they're at, based
Speaker 1: off of what they need, and based off of how
Speaker 1: far away they are from not just the top teams
Speaker 1: in the West. I mean, there's not a move they
Speaker 1: could make to move them from like fifteen to eleven,
Speaker 1: let alone fifteen to five. It doesn't exist. So based
Speaker 1: off of how far away they are and how much
Speaker 1: they need, keeping that draft capital for next year's draft
Speaker 1: cycle is as big.
Speaker 3: Of a priority as anything else that they do this year.
Speaker 3: It just is, I agree, But there's other ways to
Speaker 3: do it. First of all, you play every single one
Speaker 3: of your young guys like they have been the one
Speaker 3: caveat in all this is what do you do with
Speaker 3: market Because if Marketing is playing every game and these
Speaker 3: veterans are playing every game, it's going to be really
Speaker 3: hard to stay below eight. I'm'm saying that they're going
Speaker 3: to be a playoff team, but that's going to be
Speaker 3: more difficult. So they're going to have to kind of
Speaker 3: massage that a little bit. Well, that's manipulating minutes, or
Speaker 3: trade them.
Speaker 1: That's the only So if we're going to say that
Speaker 1: what Austin Ams said yesterday was truthful and he meant it.
Speaker 1: And the approach now that there's a new boss, okay,
Speaker 1: because Ryan told us all he's the boss, and the
Speaker 1: edict from the boss is we are no longer unseerious
Speaker 1: about competition. We are going to approach this with integrity.
Speaker 1: We're going to try our best. This roster is too
Speaker 1: good to be one of the bottom four five teams. Now,
Speaker 1: if you move off of Marketing and you can get
Speaker 1: a lot for lowry, you can't you can't get you know,
Speaker 1: a Paul George Donovan Mitchell type haul, but you can
Speaker 1: get probably three to four picks, maybe a couple of
Speaker 1: young players.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you want players, you just
Speaker 3: want picks, really well, you have to really young players.
Speaker 4: You're right, you have to.
Speaker 2: You have to acquire players because you have to match salaries.
Speaker 3: But it also wave them. They're good at that wave
Speaker 3: lowry no, no, no no. The players that you bring
Speaker 3: in a giant package of things, players, draft picks, other assets,
Speaker 3: and then you wave the player you don't want.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, but he's he's good enough that you can
Speaker 1: get three to four picks and probably two to three
Speaker 1: young players you want to learn about perfect and who
Speaker 1: knows who the young players are. But if the NBA
Speaker 1: finds out that the Jazz are willing to move off
Speaker 1: of lowry marketing, Austin Ainge will receive multiple phone calls
Speaker 1: from other general managers saying, okay, what do you want?
Speaker 1: And if if Austin says, okay, let's we'll do four picks,
Speaker 1: we'll do three unprotected in one swap, and then we
Speaker 1: want these three young players. And all these players are
Speaker 1: between eighteen and twenty two, and they're a lot like
Speaker 1: the other young players the Jazz have.
Speaker 2: You might have to do something with Walker as well.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any chance they do that.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Walker's good, Walker's really good. He impacts winning.
Speaker 1: So if you're going to do the thing where we
Speaker 1: are playing our best players every night and we're not
Speaker 1: making up injuries and we're not after we get fine,
Speaker 1: we're not saying, okay, watch this Walker Kesseler shooting ten
Speaker 1: threes a night. If we're not doing any of those
Speaker 1: corny things anymore and you're trying your best to win
Speaker 1: games based off the personnel you have, you have to
Speaker 1: change your personnel.
Speaker 2: You're too good.
Speaker 1: Because if we are sitting here, Dave, next year at
Speaker 1: this time and the Jazz have won thirty four games,
Speaker 1: they're in trouble. And Mark Tatum gets up to the
Speaker 1: podium and says, and the ninth pick in the NBA
Speaker 1: draft goes to the Utah Jazz, and that goes to
Speaker 1: the team that's about to win the title because the
Speaker 1: Jazz decided they wanted to try really hard this year.
Speaker 2: It will step.
Speaker 1: It will take the Jazz a couple of steps in
Speaker 1: the wrong direction. That is first case scenario is what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: I completely agree with you on that. And whether we
Speaker 3: want to call it tanking or roster manipulation. That's gonna
Speaker 3: be have to be the way they do this because
Speaker 3: they do not want to go through what they had
Speaker 3: to do last year, where we all sat there and
Speaker 3: looked at Larry Mark and looking perfectly healthy and not playing.
Speaker 3: They have to approach it's a completely different way. And
Speaker 3: one way would be your right to move him. But
Speaker 3: it's not just him, by the way. I mean, John
Speaker 3: Collins helps you win games. Colin Sexton helps you win games.
Speaker 2: That's my point.
Speaker 3: All these veterans, honestly, they in some respects, a lot
Speaker 3: of these guys got to go.
Speaker 1: I think finally you can move off of Collins and Sexton.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Clarkson just because he's not good anymore.
Speaker 1: I know everyone loves him, show love, nice guy painted on.
Speaker 4: The locker, throw him in, or just keep him on
Speaker 4: the team for fun.
Speaker 2: But his best years are behind him.
Speaker 1: But what changes this year And that's why I continue
Speaker 1: to look at the summer of twenty twenty six as
Speaker 1: far as the off season that makes sense for them
Speaker 1: to actually get in play is this year. Collins, Sexton
Speaker 1: Clarkson are on expiring deals. It's the final year their deal,
Speaker 1: so instead, like a GM last year is like, wait,
Speaker 1: you want me to trade for John Collins, I have
Speaker 1: to pay him twenty five mil this year and twenty
Speaker 1: five mil.
Speaker 4: Next and now they'll pick up an expiring cor.
Speaker 1: Now his contract expired, So it actually helps you next
Speaker 1: off season if you want cap space. Same thing with Sexton,
Speaker 1: same thing with Clarkson. Clarkson's on the books for fourteen
Speaker 1: point two, collins on the books for nineteen point one.
Speaker 1: So you can move off of those contracts even if
Speaker 1: the players aren't necessarily highly sought after simply because their money.
Speaker 3: Expires, and teams love those kind of deals where they're
Speaker 3: acquiring expired contracts.
Speaker 1: The Lowry's isn't I mean they just gave him a
Speaker 1: max deal. Yeah, he's good enough. You can find a
Speaker 1: home for him. I mean, he's good enough. You can
Speaker 1: find a home for him. So that's kind of got
Speaker 1: to be the play, you know. And then next off
Speaker 1: season is when they could have potentially seventy million dollars
Speaker 1: in cap space unless they decide to do this extend Walker.
Speaker 1: So they have the ability to extend Walker this offseason.
Speaker 1: Now if you want to move off of Walker, which
Speaker 1: is a tough ask. Because he's good and he's still young,
Speaker 1: they won't extend him. That makes him harder to trade.
Speaker 1: So they would do what they did with Hayward and say, oh,
Speaker 1: you think you've earned a deal. Huh, well, you're going
Speaker 1: to play the last year your rookie deal. Then you
Speaker 1: have to go bet on yourself. And that's what Gordon did.
Speaker 1: He had a really good year, then got a max
Speaker 1: offer sheet from Charlotte, then they matched.
Speaker 2: The offer sheet.
Speaker 1: Gordon played here for four more years before he gave
Speaker 1: everyone the middle finger and went to Boston. So they
Speaker 1: could extend Walker unless they've done their calculation believing we're
Speaker 1: too good with this group if we want to hold
Speaker 1: onto our draft pick. And also back up what Austin said,
Speaker 1: mean we're going to try hard this year. They've got
Speaker 1: to change their person. I don't know think he actually
Speaker 1: used the phrase try hard this year. But yes, but again,
Speaker 1: circling all the way back to where this started.
Speaker 3: If if the question had been phrased in such way
Speaker 3: that the word tanking wasn't in it, maybe he gets
Speaker 3: a little bit different answer. You can't even say roster
Speaker 3: manipulation because everyone knows that's tanking. It was the way, yeah,
Speaker 3: ask the question. It was the right way to ask
Speaker 3: the question. Well maybe, but you weren't going to get
Speaker 3: an answer with that.
Speaker 1: So that's just the way he got an answer. Well,
Speaker 1: and so if he's telling the truth, if you or
Speaker 1: you weren't going.
Speaker 3: To get a well, I don't want to say honest
Speaker 3: answer because I'm not putting words in Austin's mouth, but
Speaker 3: he he doesn't have any other choice to answer that
Speaker 3: question any other way.
Speaker 4: That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is if he's telling the truth,
Speaker 1: they need to change their personnel. Yeah, because right if
Speaker 1: market In, Kessler, Sexton, and Collins all play seventy and
Speaker 1: seventy five games, they win thirty to thirty five games
Speaker 1: this year, I completely agree with the worst place to be.
Speaker 3: And if they had, if they had played them all
Speaker 3: last year, they they probably would have won upwards of thirty.
Speaker 3: I would think the year before they won nearly that
Speaker 3: they did.
Speaker 4: They went over that. So yeah, I'm with I'm one
Speaker 4: hundred percent with you.
Speaker 1: And you know where they drafted the year before tenth Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know where that would go this year? Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: who's about to win the championship, and that tenth pick
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out so well. We'll see where that goes.
Speaker 1: But I mean, frankly, their next two picks worked out better.
Speaker 1: We're going to find out in the next thirty to
Speaker 1: forty five days.
Speaker 3: We'll see exactly what the new president is made of
Speaker 3: when he starts shaking things up.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I guarantee three words you will not hear at his
Speaker 3: mouth big game hunting.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I think I'll steer clear of that. No way, Austin,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, you should fire your dad.
Speaker 4: Ud not say that, all right?
Speaker 2: You reference the.
Speaker 1: You reference the overly irrational, emotional, ridiculously misguided decision of
Speaker 1: the worst owner in pro sports to fire Tom Thibbadeau today.
Speaker 1: It's an example of why the Knicks have been irrelevant
Speaker 1: for twenty five years because they make these in the moment,
Speaker 1: irrational decisions based off of emotion that you're feeling right
Speaker 1: now instead of having a big picture point of view.
Speaker 1: So juxtapose that to what Ryan's decided to do with
Speaker 1: the current iteration of the Jazz.
Speaker 2: The bottom line is this, Dave, you have to have players.
Speaker 2: You have to have horses. Knicks have players.
Speaker 1: The Jazz tone, but what Ryan has done is locked
Speaker 1: in a head coach through twenty thirty, a front office
Speaker 1: that now is locked in as well, and it takes
Speaker 1: away the ambiguity and the unknown nature of who's calling
Speaker 1: the shots in the way that the Knicks have simply
Speaker 1: just allowed the decisions to be to and fro from
Speaker 1: the win, firing good coaches all the time. So there
Speaker 1: is that while you need players, at least the Jazz
Speaker 1: have a coaching staff and a front office that is
Speaker 1: locked in. Like that's a that is a pragmatic, prudent
Speaker 1: approach that I think, given time, will pay dividends, but
Speaker 1: it's going to take a lot of years to understand
Speaker 1: whether or not it's the right way.
Speaker 3: Well, you answered your own question perfectly right there, because
Speaker 3: you look at what here, here's the difference. You got
Speaker 3: the Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals with an opportunity
Speaker 3: to go to the NBA Championship Series, firing a coach,
Speaker 3: and then a team with the absolute worst record in
Speaker 3: the NBA re signing their coach to an extension, and
Speaker 3: it just you're right. It goes to show which organization
Speaker 3: is locked in and which isn't think about Washington football
Speaker 3: for all those years the commanders how horrible.
Speaker 4: I mean, what an awful job they did of running
Speaker 4: that thing.
Speaker 3: So and it also tells you that Ryan is confident
Speaker 3: in his front office and what they're going to do,
Speaker 3: and that he knows within a few years they'll be competitive,
Speaker 3: they'll start being competitive, and he wants to make sure
Speaker 3: that guy is there running it. I don't know what
Speaker 3: the world the Knicks are doing, other than you may
Speaker 3: end up with an even better coach.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's an example of an owner that's
Speaker 1: an idiot, and that's who Jim Dolan is. And hopefully
Speaker 1: Ryan's decision. Will Hardy's won thirty four percent of his games.
Speaker 1: He has a nine year runway. Tom Thibodeau just won
Speaker 1: fifty games back to back and went to the Eastern
Speaker 1: Conference Finals playoffs four or five years and one Coach
Speaker 1: of the Year and he got fired.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if I mean, if Will Hardy wasn't retained,
Speaker 3: he'd be instantly highable. Yeah, because people understand what he
Speaker 3: really is about. But the Jazz are smarter than that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they are, so all.
Speaker 2: Right, David, are you wearing that on TV tonight.
Speaker 4: You look change, I'll change.
Speaker 2: I know you should wear that.
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I can't get away with that like
Speaker 3: you can. I have to look more respectable.
Speaker 2: It's a little stuffy in there with the suits of times.
Speaker 3: But I'm more a hoodie. A couple months ago in
Speaker 3: the winter, I should have saved that for a night
Speaker 3: you were on with me. Are we hoody with a
Speaker 3: sport code?
Speaker 2: Are we warm enough to enter the day fox and
Speaker 2: shorts phase?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I do that quite a bit, but I don't
Speaker 4: do it if it's a show like what you and
Speaker 4: I are doing tonight, where you can see my leg.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to see that. Nobody wants to see that.
Speaker 2: What's coming up? On five questions?
Speaker 3: I don't want to reveal all the five questions, but
Speaker 3: I will say we have discussed at least two of them.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 4: We're gonna throw in an r SO question, a golf question.
Speaker 4: We had a couple of locals.
Speaker 3: By the way, Zach Blair in press in summer, he's
Speaker 3: both qualified for the US Open. What about doctor Freestone, Congrats,
Speaker 3: doctor freestng is doing good.
Speaker 4: Texted him the other day on an issue and he
Speaker 4: got right.
Speaker 1: Backed do you want to share what the issue was
Speaker 1: on air or we don't want but you're you're healthier,
Speaker 1: good to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'll see you a little bit the
Speaker 2: Great Day Fox.
Speaker 1: I'll be on TV with Dave tonight at ten thirty
Speaker 1: five CAM Why You Five Questions with Spencer