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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to Eye the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 3>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In today with me

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<v Speaker 3>is Dave Silver. Now we have Kobe with breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball Breaking news on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona baseball ends opening weekend winless after lost of Louisville,

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<v Speaker 4>but is currently beating New Mexico eight to nothing in

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<v Speaker 4>the bottom of the seventh inning.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the competition that you can kill home games

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<v Speaker 3>against New Mexico. Yes, yes, no, they those games in

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<v Speaker 3>Arlington were not even close. I don't think. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what the third game was. The first two was

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<v Speaker 3>were not But here we are kind of recalibrating, right, Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Short handed Arizona women's baseball gives number ten ranked TCU

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<v Speaker 4>a game you'd have a basketball, oh basketball, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>but runs out. I guess losing my score of eighty

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<v Speaker 4>five to seventy three.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess they played. Yeah, she paid without two two

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<v Speaker 3>players players. Every every game is like a different deal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of been difficult.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what the deal is.

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<v Speaker 6>Plus TCU has got what Maddy Connor who played in Arizona, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you scored like eighteen or.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of a lot of the girls or the

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<v Speaker 3>women who left this place have done fantastically well a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of other places. Although although I thought, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if you did you pay attention to last year's

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<v Speaker 3>season with it with the U.

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<v Speaker 5>Bank, I mean's not that much.

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<v Speaker 3>She did a fantastic job under the conditions because they

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<v Speaker 3>were playing with six seven.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, girl, that was like the highlight of the year

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<v Speaker 6>was the fact that they didn't have enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Players and they almost they took USC to the brink

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<v Speaker 3>on one game. It was like, holy crap, how you

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<v Speaker 3>doing this? Yeah, but you know, another year of she's hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>she's not hurt, she's sick, blah blah blah. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 3>got to be, you know, some reckoning. I would I

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<v Speaker 3>would think, I don't know her contract. I think has

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<v Speaker 3>been a story coming to you, so that could be

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<v Speaker 3>something you know, again, in this the budget crisis of

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<v Speaker 3>the U of A, who knows how that's gonna play out? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly she's a legend. It's gonna be an issue. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona Softball completes bear Down Fiesta sweep with win over

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think they have another tournament this weekend, right,

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<v Speaker 3>the Hilli Brand Tournament. Yes, I believe so, with the

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday fight Saturday or something like that. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he's They usually stock up pretty well in the in

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<v Speaker 3>these early season games. You know, get a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>get some of these teams from the Midwest it can

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<v Speaker 3>barely practice probably to come out to the Sunshine. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know about perspective, but but it looks like they

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<v Speaker 3>have some people. I mean, they're not beating they're not

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<v Speaker 3>just beating anybody. They're being a couple of people right Alabama,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, and whatever. So maybe there's hope that they'll

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<v Speaker 3>get back to the tournament. And that's that's the sad

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<v Speaker 3>thing about this place, Dave giving you in here just

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<v Speaker 3>a little longer than me, that you can go from

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<v Speaker 3>November to let's say, mid May and have a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good year, and if you don't get to the tournament

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<v Speaker 3>to the you know, your season is not really a

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<v Speaker 3>good one. You're talking women's softbtball yeah, and we can

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<v Speaker 3>talk about basketball. Yeah, basketball, you're judged by March.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's going to be interesting too because they're again

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<v Speaker 6>dipping into a new conference. Who are they going to

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<v Speaker 6>be playing? Oklahoma State? It's always pretty good. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know if there's a lot of depth in women's softball,

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<v Speaker 6>is there? Not nearly what they were facing in the pact.

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<v Speaker 6>But well, the Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Tech girl who left Stanford for a million dollars, Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she's she's the picture there. So there's you know, they're

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's that's a sport that really has changed in

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<v Speaker 6>the last decade with some of these programs coming into play,

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<v Speaker 6>especially in the SEC. And I guess, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>we'll see this in the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I blame I blame Mike Candrea, the

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<v Speaker 3>godfather of softball. Easter turned everybody else into a jugernaut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because they had to catch up right, build stadiums and

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<v Speaker 6>And here they are giving all kinds of women opportunities

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<v Speaker 6>to come to colleges around the country that you know,

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<v Speaker 6>back in the day, it was like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>to UCLA, maybe Fresno State, whatever, but that was it.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you remember softball specific the field they played on

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<v Speaker 5>back and then I remember it, well, do you really?

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<v Speaker 5>It was?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I got here in eighty seven and and

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<v Speaker 3>Teresa Cherry I think was a pouture and some of

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<v Speaker 3>the it was just a backstop, a backstop, and there

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<v Speaker 3>was facing west. Yeah, it was facing west and bleacher

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<v Speaker 3>seats and it was like and now you look back,

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<v Speaker 3>says Mike Kntrea is obviously the loud Olson of this

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, he brought this thing into a And

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<v Speaker 3>if there's a guy that should be deserving on the

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<v Speaker 3>Mount Rushmore, oh for sure, it's it's Mike Kntrea.

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<v Speaker 6>We in TV paid little attention in those years, and

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<v Speaker 6>we just didn't. I mean, there was no no reason

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<v Speaker 6>to go out there. There was no like, oh we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna go. I mean there had to be a reason

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<v Speaker 6>to go. But when they broke through and won a

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<v Speaker 6>national championship, all of a sudden, we all just like,

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<v Speaker 6>WHOA what just happened? And then we all jumped on

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<v Speaker 6>that bandwagon and we started going to Oklahoma every year

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<v Speaker 6>and it was again, that was where some of the

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<v Speaker 6>highlights of my time on TV was just going to

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<v Speaker 6>those games. It was a blast, and the women were

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<v Speaker 6>terrific to cover, and it all just was literally from scratch.

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<v Speaker 6>There was you know, our friend Rocky Lorose was a player,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, back she's like my age, so she was playing,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, back in the late seventies, I think, and

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<v Speaker 6>then whatever the league was, it wasn't even there was

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<v Speaker 6>no NCAA women's softball in those years.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a different league.

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<v Speaker 6>It was all different you know, organization kind of running

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you dealt with Mary Roby at that time

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<v Speaker 3>when she kind of the title nine started and all that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So, I mean softball was was just a you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like a club sport, I'm sure up until you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Mike really built it up and it got it just

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<v Speaker 6>changed nationally as well. I mean, we were going side

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<v Speaker 6>that was basically it. And then next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the SEC gets all this big football money. They start

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<v Speaker 6>building these beautiful facilities down there in Florida and Alabama

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<v Speaker 6>and Tennessee, and teams like that just started popping up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Texas was always good as well for softball. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah they yeah, yeah, lucky. I was lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 3>go with USA Today to the Olympics in two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and two thousand and four. And yeah, Cat and the

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<v Speaker 3>Mendoza and all these people were coached by coach by

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<v Speaker 3>Mike and Tram. Yeah, so it was. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fun. Those girls unbelievably good.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Buck to call Brewers Yankees, Brewers Yankees opening Day

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<v Speaker 4>game on ESPN. Buck's last national broadcast was with Fox

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty one, when he covered his twenty fourth

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<v Speaker 4>World Series for the network. He joined Chip Carry last

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<v Speaker 4>year on the local broadcast of a Saint Louis Cardinals game.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's good, good news. If you're a baseball fan,

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<v Speaker 6>you want to hear his voice. He's one of the

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<v Speaker 6>all time greats, him and his dad act. I was

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<v Speaker 6>kind of surprised when he went to ESPN to begin

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<v Speaker 6>with it. That didn't wasn't part of the deal that

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<v Speaker 6>he'd get some baseball. But apparently he just didn't want

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<v Speaker 6>to step on the toes of others who've been doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>ESPN and baseball is another story that we'll have to

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<v Speaker 6>watch here soon.

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<v Speaker 5>There's some talk that they're going to be not doing Major.

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<v Speaker 6>League Baseball play by play here, possibly in the next

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<v Speaker 6>round of contracts.

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<v Speaker 5>With with with that, so spending too much money in

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<v Speaker 5>the NBA, And yeah, the NBA.

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<v Speaker 6>Is a whole nother craziness with Amazon coming on board

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<v Speaker 6>and NBC coming back, and you know, basketball is going

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<v Speaker 6>to be a different watch in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Next four years or so. Did you watch it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to interrupt your breaking news, but did you

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<v Speaker 3>watch a Law Star game?

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<v Speaker 4>I watched it. It wasn't that great.

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to say, why did you watch watch?

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<v Speaker 5>I did not watch a single thing I did.

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<v Speaker 6>I watched the So they played like these two semi finals.

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<v Speaker 6>I watched the first one just to kind of see

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<v Speaker 6>how they were playing, and it was just as bad

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<v Speaker 6>as was played a regular game. I mean, they play

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<v Speaker 6>to forty points. Yeah, and then you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know if you saw the comments from Draymond Green. He

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<v Speaker 6>was doing, uh the stuff up with with with Charte, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I guess with the other you know, analyst group outside

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<v Speaker 5>He was saying, the players can't stand this. This is terrible.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I'm just thinking, you know, the NBA has got

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<v Speaker 6>to be going what is he saying? But that's been

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<v Speaker 6>the consensus I think from.

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<v Speaker 3>The right, the whole, and the whole. You're just about

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<v Speaker 3>basketball itself. You watch NBA games, Yeah, why because you're

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<v Speaker 3>like the only one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because I've always been a diehard Nick fan, So

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<v Speaker 4>i watch all the Knicks games. And yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>something I've always been doing. But there's definitely a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you what do you think why there's no

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<v Speaker 4>like culture, people the players like sit out a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>and like you see the four Nations in hockey right now,

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<v Speaker 4>like they're all playing, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the NBA just wouldn't do that. Well it's that

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<v Speaker 3>little management. I'm getting paid. I don't need to do

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<v Speaker 3>this exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, there's no reason for them to play.

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<v Speaker 5>It really isn't. And well even in the I'm talking

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<v Speaker 5>like it today. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And what about Phoenix, God, they're not they're out of

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they sold their whole future eleven seed right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but they are gonna They're changing the name of

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<v Speaker 6>their arena again for about the tenth TIMEO rerints going away.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh really, now they're looking for a contracts over, I guess. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. It's always been.

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<v Speaker 6>US Airways, not even around the north. Yeah, America West first. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>those are the glory years.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember those.

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<v Speaker 4>Some great men's college basketball matchups. Today, Number five Houston

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's a great matchup.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, great, there's some. There's some more. Number twenty one

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<v Speaker 4>M good one. Yeah, and number thirteen ranked Purdue will

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>really good. I know where I'm gonna go with the

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<v Speaker 3>national championship team. Let's hear it, drummer, oll please no

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<v Speaker 3>Lolorida Florida nine to one, nine to one. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a good number. They've beaten the number one team

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<v Speaker 3>in the country. Already. Give me an odds on Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what it is, but I want you

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<v Speaker 3>to guess. For the odds of Arizona winning the national title.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I looked at the other nine thousand it no.

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<v Speaker 5>you have a chance, you have a chance eight if.

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<v Speaker 6>The eight man roster can do it, let's yeah, they

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<v Speaker 6>hold up over six games.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, people don't talk about that often enough.

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<v Speaker 3>And I say, you know, they're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what they do. But after seeing them in

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a price. It's like the Hearns Hagler fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Please let this round get finished with.

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<v Speaker 5>Where's the bell? Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, you gotta you gotta get stamminy, you get lucky,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's so much that goes into that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that was one of the Tommy's things

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him. I think he got a little little

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<v Speaker 3>he kind of answered the question then he kind of

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<v Speaker 3>then he got kind of like his eyes lit up

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<v Speaker 3>like that. Yeah, but you know, you know, well you

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<v Speaker 5>You like, well, you don't think we knew that was

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean? It's just a question.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a coach, I'm making all this money. I'm paid

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<v Speaker 5>To us, Right? Could you write this down?

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<v Speaker 4>Hold On cam Mood states that he'll remember the teams

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<v Speaker 4>that won't draft him. Ward hasn't decided if he will

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<v Speaker 4>throw at the NFL combine next week.

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<v Speaker 5>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I read that too over the weekend, and I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so you don't get drafted, you gotta what are you

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<v Speaker 5>He says, not the first guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Pick, isn't he? It's not gonna be too many teams.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna be upset with rich people getting upset.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, who's he gonna Who's I don't even know. I

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<v Speaker 3>should know who's the number one? Who is the number one?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the Raiders?

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<v Speaker 4>Titans have number one? Okay, then who's two?

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<v Speaker 8>Two?

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<v Speaker 4>Mm? I know Patriots are three?

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<v Speaker 5>So there's quarterbacks should do?

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<v Speaker 3>Or what and I will Hunter right, Hunters, the the

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<v Speaker 5>It's right, you can, you can.

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<v Speaker 4>The Titans said they might not draft a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all smoke screen Tennessee, Cleveland, Oh Giants, Patriots, Giants,

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<v Speaker 5>The other dudes are talking about t Mac.

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<v Speaker 6>At one point, I thought, it's whatever Tom Brady wants, right,

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<v Speaker 6>tom Brady's.

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<v Speaker 5>Running the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Dallas, Maverick star Kiier Irving says he wants to play

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<v Speaker 4>for Team Australia at the twenty twenty eight Olympics. Irving

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<v Speaker 4>was who was born in Over in Australia, was asked

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<v Speaker 4>during All Star Weekend whether you would consider making a

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<v Speaker 4>switch from Team USA.

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<v Speaker 6>Or he hasn't played on that team for a couple Olympics.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think, or.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it wasn't on this last team. See the world

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<v Speaker 3>of spot guy. Who is he the guy that says

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<v Speaker 3>the world is playing? Oh yes, yes, no, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just not around. But we got a call.

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<v Speaker 4>You gonna call.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's take the straight line to Melbourne, take the bus.

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<v Speaker 5>You're in the air. Night of the ball. Who's this? Hey?

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<v Speaker 8>This is Rob.

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<v Speaker 5>Rob. How are you doing? You sound like a first

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<v Speaker 5>time caller.

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<v Speaker 9>I am a first time college How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for calling in, Thanks for listening. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>have to say to us? Hey?

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<v Speaker 9>I was just curious. Uh, do you think that Lloyd's

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<v Speaker 9>gonna do kind of the same thing with high school

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<v Speaker 9>recruiting at Arizona, just like Patino's doing at Saint John's.

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<v Speaker 3>Which would be what forget about it?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it looks like he's he's gonna focus on the

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<v Speaker 9>transfer portal and not so much on high school with so.

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was right. I think you go with

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<v Speaker 3>what you can, and he's not. That'll have to happen

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<v Speaker 3>after beyond this next year, because he's got some high

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<v Speaker 3>school kids coming in. But yes, I think that's everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>case where you have to go with that to fill

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<v Speaker 3>the holes that are leaving. I think everybody's doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, don't you think, Yeah, that's the way it's

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<v Speaker 3>been working, that you have no choice but to do

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<v Speaker 3>it that way. I think though, the problem that's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be run a case against teams that are mediocre or

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<v Speaker 3>less n I l that's gonna be a tough thing

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<v Speaker 3>because we're they gonna come over the money.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Rob, are you a U a grad? You follow

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<v Speaker 5>them or whatever?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think you'll appreciate my Uh it's a different

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<v Speaker 9>no no.

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<v Speaker 8>No conference.

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<v Speaker 9>But yeah I I follow Arizona basketball. Uh big Caleb

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<v Speaker 9>love fan, which he came to Syracuse though. Uh, kind

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<v Speaker 9>of a hint of my favorite college team.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but don't you think you I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 3>called into asked our opinion, but you probably already knew

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<v Speaker 3>the answer to your situation.

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<v Speaker 9>It's gonna be I'm just I'm I'm concerned. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 9>curtail development of new players, and it's just going to

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<v Speaker 9>be a farming of the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no question, Rob. If you listen to us a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>the JC people, they're going to be shut out. The

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<v Speaker 3>high school people are going to be shut out because

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<v Speaker 3>now it's just a kind of rent to rent a

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<v Speaker 3>transfer pretty much.

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<v Speaker 9>Yep, yep, exactly. Yeah, it would be interesting, should be interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>It is it? Interesting is a good word? But is it?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it? Okay with you? I mean, okay, that's the

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<v Speaker 5>right word.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll be honest with you. It's not I went to

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<v Speaker 9>college in an era where kids were just getting scholarships

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<v Speaker 9>to school and they you know, the playing field was

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<v Speaker 9>more pure. You know, these kids were really fighting to

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<v Speaker 9>get to the NBA. And I think now it's it's

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<v Speaker 9>just a whole different atmosphere with you know, NIL and

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<v Speaker 9>now revenue sharing and everything that college sports has turned into.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna make a lot of panic to people

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<v Speaker 3>here in the next few years.

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<v Speaker 5>It's already has. You know, how are you gonna come

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<v Speaker 5>up with all this money?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, look at especially in college football, is

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<v Speaker 6>incredible turnover.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean even the U of A.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's talking with like forty forty new players already

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<v Speaker 6>have kind of signed up for next this next season.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean it's a turnover.

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<v Speaker 6>And I mean Dion basically turned over the entire Colorado

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<v Speaker 6>rosters first year.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then the second year and then they

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<v Speaker 3>look at look at here locally, Brent had to do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm saying that, you know, Arizona's just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of just bringing in everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Rob, Rob, thanks for coming and bringing us down.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, I worry about that.

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<v Speaker 10>Guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey keep calling. Thank you very much for the call.

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<v Speaker 5>We got to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thank you time take guy.

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<v Speaker 5>We got to go and take a break.

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<v Speaker 3>Get ahold of Evan min cowill get some smart people

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the xs at ohs. This is I

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 3>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me

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<v Speaker 3>today is Dave Silver Now and I phonely have Evan

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<v Speaker 3>Maya Kawa.

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<v Speaker 5>Give us your website. Evan at that great website of yours.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so, Evan mia Kawa is one of the more

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<v Speaker 8>popular or college basketball analytics websites that's used.

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<v Speaker 16>By a lot of fans for analyzing the sport, but.

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<v Speaker 8>It's really become popular with a lot of coaches. There's

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<v Speaker 8>about one hundred different Division one teams, their coaches staffs

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<v Speaker 8>have subscriptions on my website and it's used for a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of things like lineup analysis and deciding player rotations,

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<v Speaker 8>but also during the portal, especially in the off season,

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of portal evaluation stuff. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of stuff there really for anybody kind of no matter

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<v Speaker 8>what level of fan or if you're all the way

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<v Speaker 8>up at kind of the coach level in the sport.

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume to me this would be and you

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<v Speaker 3>can correct me if I'm wrong or just what I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a cheat sheet when the NCAA tournament comes

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<v Speaker 3>and you know you want to beat the secretary because

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<v Speaker 3>the purple color is favorite, turn they win the title

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<v Speaker 3>that they can kind of, Yeah, I evaluate teams this

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<v Speaker 3>way and analytically.

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<v Speaker 16>Yes, absolutely, I think.

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<v Speaker 8>Really the key to building a good bracket is.

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<v Speaker 16>Not just looking at what has a team done in their.

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<v Speaker 8>Season so far, but it's actually using some of these

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<v Speaker 8>advanced analytics to predict how good they're.

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<v Speaker 16>Going to be going forward. And that's really where I

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<v Speaker 16>find a lot of value in what I do on

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<v Speaker 16>my website because it doesn't overreact to things that are

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<v Speaker 16>kind of more of the commonly stated narratives kind of

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<v Speaker 16>in the sport publicly. And the other thing that you'll

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<v Speaker 16>find when we get closer to the tournament and then

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<v Speaker 16>when the bracket comes out is I'll actually put up

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<v Speaker 16>on my website an entire page of basically every single

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<v Speaker 16>team's probability of making it to each round, so you

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<v Speaker 16>can see the most likely teams to make the Sweet

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<v Speaker 16>sixteen the Final four based on the.

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<v Speaker 8>Draws that they have. You can even stimulate different bracket

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<v Speaker 8>outcomes based on the realistic game probabilities of potential matchups

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<v Speaker 8>that teams could find. So there's gonna be a treasure

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<v Speaker 8>trove of things that you can use when it comes

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<v Speaker 8>to filling out your bracket once we get that. On

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<v Speaker 8>the election Sunday, I want.

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<v Speaker 5>To We've had you had a number of times.

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<v Speaker 3>You're one of my favorite guys to talk to because

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<v Speaker 3>you're so good at this and it's intriguing. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>at the back end of how in the hell you

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<v Speaker 3>decided to do this because you were like a computer

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<v Speaker 3>whiz somewhere in Texas and probably working for the FBI

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<v Speaker 3>or something. Well, we'll get to that later. Go ahead

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<v Speaker 3>day with any of questions, I was just.

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<v Speaker 6>Going to say, So, you're you're watching a game saying

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<v Speaker 6>in February, and you're you've been working with a team

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<v Speaker 6>and you see them kind of using your formulas.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that gratifying to you or does it happen all

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<v Speaker 5>the time or how does that work for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it really does.

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<v Speaker 16>I see it all the time.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm constantly communicating with different coaches. I mean, an example

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<v Speaker 8>somewhat recently was I won't necessarily name the team, but

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<v Speaker 8>there's a team, a high major team who's going to

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<v Speaker 8>be in the tournament, who basically was kind of having

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<v Speaker 8>a discussion with me throughout the season of identifying their

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<v Speaker 8>best lineups.

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<v Speaker 16>And basically they have a lineup that they was not

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<v Speaker 16>their starting.

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<v Speaker 8>Lineup, but with a lineup that had been very successful

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<v Speaker 8>for them throughout the duration of the season. It's one

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<v Speaker 8>of the best performing lineups in the country and sort

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<v Speaker 8>of out of necessity. They were forced to use that

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<v Speaker 8>lineup starting in a game recently. It was amazing and

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<v Speaker 8>they won the game, and they've decided to stick with

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<v Speaker 8>it and they've had incredible results since. And really a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of that comes down to utilizing the analytics to

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<v Speaker 8>figure out, you know, gaining you know, winning by those

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<v Speaker 8>fine margins and finding ways to have an advantage over

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<v Speaker 8>your opponents through that type of thing. So it's very

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<v Speaker 8>gratifying to see. It's also being talked more and more

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<v Speaker 8>on air, on you know, ESPN broadcasts and things like that,

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<v Speaker 8>so it's it's been super cool. I'm just really, really

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<v Speaker 8>honestly thankful to the Lord that for this opportunity, because

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<v Speaker 8>you know, college basketball has been my whole life, my

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<v Speaker 8>favorite sport, and to see my work having this kind

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<v Speaker 8>of impact is really cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that coach does his initials start with T and

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<v Speaker 5>end with LL.

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<v Speaker 16>I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say no.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm looking at the Arizona page and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Steve he's got his five man lineup and his fore

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<v Speaker 6>man lineup that you know includes Carter Bryant who never

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<v Speaker 6>never starts, has he has he started maybe once.

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<v Speaker 5>Or two's league twice.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got Jayden, Bradley, Carter, Brian kJ who does the start,

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<v Speaker 6>Caleb and Henry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know, well, what do you think about Aris?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about Arizona? Because here in town,

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<v Speaker 3>the world was ending Saturday afternoon. They lose to Houston,

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<v Speaker 3>But no, no shakes, because you know, Houston's a heck

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<v Speaker 3>of a team. They just played really well in Arizona,

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<v Speaker 3>adam on the brink and then they go back and back.

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<v Speaker 16>I do not think, yeah, I do not think people

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<v Speaker 16>realize have come.

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<v Speaker 8>To grips with how good this Houston team is.

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<v Speaker 16>And I think a lot of that was because they

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<v Speaker 16>lost a bunch of really close.

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<v Speaker 8>Games to good teams early in the season and so

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<v Speaker 8>people kind of counted them out. But they are an

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<v Speaker 8>absolute juggernaut. I have them ranked second in the country.

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<v Speaker 16>Actually have them ranked just.

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<v Speaker 8>A tad ahead of Auburn right now in terms of

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<v Speaker 8>how well they're going to do going forward. Now, granted,

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<v Speaker 8>do Houston and Auburn are way ahead of everyone else,

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<v Speaker 8>but but basically Houston winning, you know, on the road

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<v Speaker 8>against Arizona, that's that's not really that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 8>And for Arizona to follow that up with their win

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<v Speaker 8>last night, you know, pretty comfortably handling Baylor down the

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<v Speaker 8>street in Waco does speak to just the resilience of

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<v Speaker 8>this team. I have Arizona right now tenth in the country,

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<v Speaker 8>so when you look at all the teams in the country,

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<v Speaker 8>I predict them to be in the top ten in

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<v Speaker 8>terms of performance going forward. And I think the thing

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<v Speaker 8>that really sticks out to me is, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 8>there was a time when this team, the Arizona team,

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<v Speaker 8>relied on Caleb Love. Their identity was around him. But

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<v Speaker 8>now you look at their roster and every single game

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<v Speaker 8>you have someone else kind of being that guy. And

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<v Speaker 8>last night was the case of that. You didn't have

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<v Speaker 8>a single player on this team scoring over fifteen points,

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<v Speaker 8>but you had four of your starters in double digits.

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<v Speaker 8>And you're starting to.

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<v Speaker 16>See, you know, players like Henry Vsar, who you know,

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<v Speaker 16>was just kind of a bit player to.

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<v Speaker 8>Start the year, but because of injuries and things like that,

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<v Speaker 8>he has really blossom to be one of the most

641
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 8>impactful big men in the country and certainly in the

642
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 8>Big twelve. And when you can get meaningful minutes out

643
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 8>of him and Toby lock on the court together. That

644
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 8>really says something.

645
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 16>So I love the depth of this team that.

646
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 8>They don't need to rely on a Caleb Glove or

647
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 8>a Jaden Bradley to kind of dig them out of

648
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 8>a hole. And they they've experimented. Tommy Lloyd has had

649
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 8>enough flexibility to experiment with that starting lineup and with rotations,

650
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 8>and so I really like the tinkering that they've been doing.

651
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 8>I think it's positive thing. And I've always been high

652
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.480
<v Speaker 8>on this team. I know that they had a rough

653
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.759
<v Speaker 8>start to the year, but my analytics, even at that

654
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 8>point when they were down in December, still pointed to

655
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 8>Arizona climbing back into this thing, and that's certainly what

656
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 8>they've shown down the stretch in big club play.

657
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.839
<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, I saw you on I

658
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.279
<v Speaker 3>guess in the X and Twitter yesterday in the day

659
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 3>before you were really talking about Gonzaga and UCLA, if

660
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm correct, Can you just your thoughts on them and

661
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Arizona because you talked about the Sweet sixteen that you

662
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be surprised.

663
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I was specifically highlighting Gunzaga in Kansas.

664
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 16>Actually as two teams at two teams that basically.

665
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 8>I'm buying low on compared to where public sentiment is

666
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 8>on them. Godzag, I think is a little bit more

667
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 8>straightforward Gonzag It's sort of similar to Houston kind of

668
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.000
<v Speaker 8>early in the season. They Gonzaga has a lot been

669
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:09.400
<v Speaker 8>like zero to seven in all close games against good teams.

670
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 16>This year, and a lot of times that's not really

671
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 16>a predictive.

672
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 8>Stat that will carry forward.

673
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 16>And in the past Mark Few has been.

674
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 8>Really great in close games. So I'm not super worried

675
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 8>about this Gonzaga team. They're blowing out a lot of teams,

676
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:22.359
<v Speaker 8>they have one of the best offenses in the country.

677
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.039
<v Speaker 8>They've made you know, nine consecutive Sweet sixteen, So I

678
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:27.920
<v Speaker 8>think when they get into the bracket they're going to

679
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.279
<v Speaker 8>be a much better team than what they're seed is

680
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:31.799
<v Speaker 8>going to indicate. And so I still have a lot

681
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:33.960
<v Speaker 8>of faith with them. Kansas, I think is a little

682
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 8>bit more intriguing because if you survey this Kansas fan base,

683
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 8>they are all for the most part, completely out on

684
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 8>this team. They are super disappointed.

685
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 16>They the transfers hasn't been great.

686
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:47.160
<v Speaker 8>Obviously this team.

687
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 16>Kansas was the number one team.

688
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 8>In the preseason according to the eight People they're certainly

689
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.880
<v Speaker 8>miles below that. So yeah, they're not necessarily a national

690
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:58.440
<v Speaker 8>title contender. But I still think my analytics have them

691
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 8>as a top fifteen team in the country. That's still

692
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:02.960
<v Speaker 8>a team good enough to make a Sweet sixteen or further.

693
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.200
<v Speaker 8>And I really think if you sort of, you know,

694
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 8>bigger scope on the season, I still think roster strength wise,

695
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 8>the veteran leadership they have on this team, I still

696
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 8>think they're going to be good. Bill self is still

697
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 8>a very good coach.

698
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 16>And so you know, if Kansas suddenly wins two or

699
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 16>three games in a row, I won't be surprised. But

700
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 16>if they do that all of a sudden, the public

701
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 16>sentiment will be back on their side. And so I'm

702
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.359
<v Speaker 16>just trying to identify these trends a little bit earlier,

703
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.640
<v Speaker 16>you know, so that people aren't overreacting too much to

704
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 16>you know, just one single game or two single games.

705
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 6>You know, it's interesting too with a lot of these

706
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 6>schools have shifted conferences and stuff like that, but it

707
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 6>still sort of seems to remain the same. You still

708
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 6>have an Arizona in the top ten, even go they're

709
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 6>in a brand new conference. Have you noticed anything, you know,

710
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 6>with these conference switches affecting college basketball in general.

711
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's a great point. I think a lot of

712
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 8>people thought when you have your your Houston's and Arizonas

713
00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 8>and BYUS, especially the Houston BYU coming from we incur

714
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 8>conferences in the American and the WCC to the Big twelve,

715
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 8>sort of thinking, hey, like, these teams are really going

716
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 8>to have a tough time transitioning. And the reality is

717
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 8>that Houston has been the best team in the Big

718
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 8>Twelve every single season they've been in the Big Twelve,

719
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 8>and BYU is more than holding their own in the

720
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 8>Big Twelve so far. You know, Arizona obviously first season

721
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.799
<v Speaker 8>of the Big Twelve, and they're clearly in that upper

722
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 8>echelon top four or five teams in the conference. And

723
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 8>so yeah, I largely think that the conference changes for

724
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 8>the most part have not really been you know, affecting

725
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 8>where the level that these programs are used to being

726
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 8>for the most part. And you know, I do think

727
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.559
<v Speaker 8>maybe there are some exceptions. We still have to collect

728
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:42.200
<v Speaker 8>more data.

729
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.519
<v Speaker 16>On how some of these West Coast teams like.

730
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 8>A UCLA and a USC are performing when they're all

731
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 8>the way on in the West Coast and they're having

732
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 8>to travel all the way to the East coast multiple

733
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 8>times a year. I do think we have to work

734
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 8>a little bit more to see how that plays out,

735
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 8>because that travel is certainly a big factor that you know.

736
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.160
<v Speaker 8>I don't think Arizona has to do the same thing

737
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 8>because of their you know, closer proximity relatively speaking to

738
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 8>some other teams in their conference. But yeah, by and large,

739
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 8>these teams that have been good in weaker conferences have

740
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 8>still been about as good as they've been in previous years.

741
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 8>When you look at, you know, the national landscape, and

742
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.839
<v Speaker 8>that's a good sign because you want these these programs

743
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:19.799
<v Speaker 8>to continue to do well.

744
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:21.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you have no question.

745
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna ask you about the teams that that

746
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of fill off, I'll fill off North Carolina and Indiana.

747
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Indiana had the best money a team money can buy,

748
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 3>and look what happened. Ballo was with them in North Carolina,

749
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 3>which you know is North Carolina. What's up with that?

750
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Man, Honestly, at what it really goes to show

751
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 8>is that, you know, just having money and throwing it

752
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 8>at players in the transfer portal does not mean that

753
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 8>you're going to have a great team.

754
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 16>It's all about identifying the right fit and not just

755
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 16>going for the biggest names. You know, you could throw

756
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:57.160
<v Speaker 16>Kansas State.

757
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 8>In here as well. Obviously they've been a bit better recently,

758
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 8>but they've just lost two games in a row and

759
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 8>that's kind of mostly crushed their chances of an at

760
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 8>large bid. And from from what we know, Indiana and

761
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 8>Kansas State where you know, to the two of the

762
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 8>teams that.

763
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 9>Had top five nil war.

764
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:17.119
<v Speaker 8>Chest naziason based on kind of publicly you know, publicly

765
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 8>known numbers about what they were spending. And the reality

766
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 8>is you can't just throw a bunch of guys you know,

767
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 8>who are worth a lot in the name, image of

768
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 8>licen of space on your roster and expected to gel.

769
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 8>There's there's more that you have to do there, and

770
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 8>so you know, you look at there's there are other

771
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 8>teams who have done this much better and have spent

772
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 8>a fraction of what these teams have spent. So, you know,

773
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 8>a lot of it really comes back to do you

774
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Speaker 8>have you know, are you a good coach who's able

775
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.719
<v Speaker 8>to develop the players that you're getting And Tommy Lloyd,

776
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 8>if we're.

777
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 16>Talking about coaches who have, you know, they they'll get

778
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 16>good players.

779
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 8>From the portal, from the high school ranks, but then

780
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 8>the way that these guys develop and start to finish

781
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 8>at a program. Tommy Lloyd at Arizona, you know, in

782
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 8>his time there has been exceptional.

783
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 16>In this regard where the guys that he's getting.

784
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 8>I mean look at it like a you know, Jaden Bradley,

785
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 8>he was a highly toadded player out of high school,

786
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 8>did was used pretty sparingly at Alabama his freshman year,

787
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.800
<v Speaker 8>and then comes to Arizona and is content enough to

788
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 8>you know, play behind Kylon Boswell, but has slowly been

789
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 8>groomed into being one of the most consistent, reliable players

790
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 8>on this team, and he's content to stay there. That

791
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 8>speaks to the coaching staff number one, being able to

792
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 8>develop guys you every year and to get them to

793
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 8>buy in to what their long term future is, you know,

794
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 8>at Arizona, And I think that's really impressive.

795
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Do you this might be a dumb question, but when

796
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:43.000
<v Speaker 3>you do your analytics and it's just some fantastic self

797
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 3>because you have a lot of different categories, do coaching

798
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 3>factor into that? Do you conclude all that with a

799
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 3>good coach, bad coach, or mediocre coach?

800
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 16>Yeah?

801
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:56.239
<v Speaker 8>I don't explicitly measure that, although I have been working

802
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 8>behind the scenes on developed and kind of of a

803
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.039
<v Speaker 8>private coaching metric that could basically tell you how good

804
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.320
<v Speaker 8>as a coach at using extracting more out of their

805
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 8>roster than than what's there. But generally speaking, there was

806
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 8>kind of a hidden variable four teams. When I'm doing

807
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.719
<v Speaker 8>the preseason rankings of preseason projections.

808
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 16>For teams that basically looks at essentially how good is

809
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 16>your roster.

810
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.239
<v Speaker 8>And then how good has your coaching staff.

811
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 16>Been at extracting value out of rosters.

812
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 8>You've had in previous years, and so, you know, an

813
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 8>example of that might be like in Indiana where I

814
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 8>think they in the preseason, based on the talent that

815
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.320
<v Speaker 8>they had, they had a top ten roster in the sport,

816
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 8>but their actual preseason projection was closer to twentieth.

817
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.000
<v Speaker 16>Because it was basically identifying that.

818
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 8>Hey, in previous years, you know, Mike Woods and his

819
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 8>staff have not done a great job of getting their

820
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 8>teams to perform up to the level of the talent

821
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.639
<v Speaker 8>they have on their roster. And a flip, you know

822
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 8>side of that would be a team like Yukon where

823
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 8>everyone identified coming into the year, their team was going

824
00:36:56.159 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 8>to be roster wise much worse than what they've out

825
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 8>in previous years.

826
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.480
<v Speaker 16>But because of Dan Hurley and what his staff.

827
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 8>Has done, their team gets a little bit more benefit

828
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:07.360
<v Speaker 8>of the doubt, and so I had them ranked more

829
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 8>like in the top ten than if we've just been

830
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 8>purely going off the roster talent would have been in

831
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:14.639
<v Speaker 8>more in the twenties there. So it definitely does take

832
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 8>that into account.

833
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 5>It's interesting too, you have coaches.

834
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 6>Is there any evidence that coaches are looking at your

835
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 6>ratings as they're making decisions on players they may go

836
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 6>after in the transfer portal?

837
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 16>You know, oh, absolutely, yeah, that's that's one of the

838
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 16>most popular uses.

839
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:33.280
<v Speaker 8>For coaches, and really a lot of that has So

840
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 8>I have a whole transfer portal set of tools where

841
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.840
<v Speaker 8>it ranks every transfer based on if this player goes

842
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:43.880
<v Speaker 8>to any school, what is his projected value next year

843
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.320
<v Speaker 8>to your team on offense and defense, And it looks at,

844
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 8>you know, all of the saint information we have available.

845
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 8>How efficient are you in terms of your stats? How

846
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 8>is how are you impacting team performance? Adjusting for level competition,

847
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 8>all that stuff, and it really has become essential for

848
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 8>many coaches to reference what I'm doing, because, as you

849
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 8>can understand, in this day and age, you have to

850
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 8>make evaluations on transfer portal.

851
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 16>Players very quickly, sometimes within.

852
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 8>Two weeks or a week or even a couple of

853
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 8>days to decide, Hey, this guy entered his name in

854
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<v Speaker 8>the portal, is this someone that we want to pursue.

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<v Speaker 8>And so being able to kind of even just filter

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<v Speaker 8>your list down initially of saying does this guy meet

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<v Speaker 8>the criteria of what we're looking for in terms of

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<v Speaker 8>his skill set, in terms of his overall value, is

859
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<v Speaker 8>really really beneficial. And so yeah, it's very very popular

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<v Speaker 8>with coaches during during.

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<v Speaker 16>The transfer portal cycle because it's essential to use kind

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<v Speaker 16>of objective data driven tools like mind to kind of

863
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<v Speaker 16>go along with your own individual scouts of those players

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<v Speaker 16>when you're looking at video and.

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<v Speaker 8>Things like that.

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00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 5>I love that stuff. Just to me, it's just an

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<v Speaker 5>intriguing thing. Real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>We got about a minute, give me, give me how

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00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>this all started, because I think you're in college getting

870
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 3>your degree, your master's or something, and then you got

871
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<v Speaker 3>a job and then this came about.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so I have my PhD in statistics from Baylor,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think the first time I came on the

874
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<v Speaker 8>show with you guys. Was still while I was in

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<v Speaker 8>Texas and Waco finishing that degree. So I graduated with

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<v Speaker 8>my PhD in twenty two and had already started this

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<v Speaker 8>website kind of as a fun side project where you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I was just working on player and team ratings and

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<v Speaker 8>just because I love college basketball, and that was an

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<v Speaker 8>easy application. But it's just organically grown over the last

881
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<v Speaker 8>several years and well, you know, as we mentioned, is

882
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<v Speaker 8>used by tons of coaches and journalists and things like that,

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<v Speaker 8>and so I was able to leave my previous job

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<v Speaker 8>doing consulting for NBA teams to focus full time on

885
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<v Speaker 8>the college website, which has been.

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<v Speaker 5>Awesome, fantastic. Are you going to go to college football?

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<v Speaker 5>Could you?

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<v Speaker 16>You know, I've been askled by a lot of people

889
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 16>for that, and my current answer to.

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<v Speaker 10>That is no.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think a lot of that is because I'm

892
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<v Speaker 8>a fan of college basketball, but I'm not an expert

893
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<v Speaker 8>on college basketball, and I really do think it's important

894
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<v Speaker 8>that you don't just throw mass at a sport and

895
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<v Speaker 8>expect it to spit out accurate results. I really understand

896
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<v Speaker 8>the spoort of college basketball and really plugged into the

897
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<v Speaker 8>sport of college basketball, and I think, you know, having

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<v Speaker 8>an expert knowledge of that and then bringing.

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<v Speaker 16>In all of this statistical know how, I think is

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<v Speaker 16>an important.

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00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 8>Combination in order to be successful in the space. And

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<v Speaker 8>so I'm a little resident retident to just start in

903
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<v Speaker 8>another sport that I'm not as comfortable in, because I

904
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<v Speaker 8>do think you have to be very careful and mature

905
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 8>about your approach with these days, I would.

906
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.719
<v Speaker 6>Think baseball might be the best comparison. Seems like they're

907
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 6>always talking about the analytics of baseball. Still baseball topic,

908
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 6>you know, that could be something that you know, hey,

909
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<v Speaker 6>we need a you know, a lightening shortstop, or with

910
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<v Speaker 6>something I don't know throwing it out there.

911
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.079
<v Speaker 16>So yeah, baseball is definitely the most.

912
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.239
<v Speaker 8>Advanced for in terms of using analytics for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>So give us your website one more time, one more time.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, evanmeia dot com. That's where you can find all

915
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 8>the stuff player ratings, team ratings, lineups, game predictions, lineup analysis.

916
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<v Speaker 8>When March Madness comes around, a lot.

917
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<v Speaker 16>Of stuff will be there on to help your bracket.

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<v Speaker 16>Also links to all of my other social media platforms

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<v Speaker 16>on their Twitter, Instagram, all that stuff, so you can

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<v Speaker 16>find everything at evanmeia dot com, e v A n

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<v Speaker 16>M i ya dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>Great Evan, thanks a bunch as always your great love

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<v Speaker 5>to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I appreciate you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you taking over with mind Cal Just just cool

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<v Speaker 5>stuff to me, I know, amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well go take a break, maybe take a call

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<v Speaker 3>to talk more about this crazy stuff. It's good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to I in the back here on

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<v Speaker 3>to listen to Eavan. I gotta subscribe to that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not pretty expensive now, it's fun if you if you're

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<v Speaker 3>really into it, like the analytics and numbers. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>understand half the stuff that's episode, but you need to

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<v Speaker 3>get some free I mean you have the free step up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and give me Arizona's ten. You said, what

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<v Speaker 3>else is up on the free site?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean Arizona's ranked tenth in his UH in

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<v Speaker 5>his rankings.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's interesting because I don't know what what the

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<v Speaker 6>OBPR and the DBPR. Yeah, we got an offensive player,

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<v Speaker 6>defensive whatever. And it's interesting because of the ten players

1024
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<v Speaker 6>that he lists, and they only play really eight. The

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<v Speaker 6>last two are Toby Waka and Trey Townsend.

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<v Speaker 2>On this list.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, his best players according to these ratings are

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<v Speaker 6>Vassar Bryant kJ Caleb Crevius who doesn't play it's done,

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<v Speaker 6>and then then Bradley and del Orso and Conrad Martinez

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<v Speaker 6>and then Toby and.

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<v Speaker 3>Trey Y and Bradley's what seventh in that group. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember last year when I was the tournament and I

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<v Speaker 3>used him for a story and I gave I asked

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy a question about did you realize that Bradley was

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<v Speaker 3>the like the like, the strawest sturgs and he's the

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<v Speaker 3>most valuable We don't need, we don't need analytics and

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<v Speaker 3>tell us that. But now he's not even this year,

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<v Speaker 3>he's part of it. Okay, we got Hello, you're.

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<v Speaker 5>On the r nine of the ball.

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<v Speaker 7>Who's this?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, Brian, how's it going, Brian?

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<v Speaker 5>What's the word?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it was a good game last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what, Brian, let me say this. Can

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<v Speaker 3>I poopoo all over this? Baylor didn't have their best

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<v Speaker 3>big guy. He didn't play at all.

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<v Speaker 10>I know, I know, I know, I know they didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know it's part of the game, the game.

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<v Speaker 5>You're exactly right, Okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean you know, I mean you look at the

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<v Speaker 10>game we lost with Kansas State. We didn't have Townsend

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<v Speaker 10>lost by two. I mean, you know, he might have

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<v Speaker 10>made a difference in the middle. Who knows. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 10>you know after you know, you watched last night's game,

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<v Speaker 10>and I was at the Houston game, and Houston's a

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<v Speaker 10>good team. Are they a great team?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 10>I just don't see it. You know, they're going to

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<v Speaker 10>have a problem if they get stuck with a referee,

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<v Speaker 10>with referees who don't allow that kind of play.

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<v Speaker 8>They're not going to do well at all.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, they you know, I mean, Arizona should have

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<v Speaker 10>won that game, should have could or whatever. It can't

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<v Speaker 10>make a free throw, you know, they lost. You know, announcers,

1065
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.000
<v Speaker 10>you know, they kept on saying, well they lost four

1066
00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:58.719
<v Speaker 10>points on the free throws at the end, Well they

1067
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.239
<v Speaker 10>lost five points on their pre throws because they look,

1068
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 10>they missed the first end of a one and one

1069
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 10>in that game.

1070
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

1071
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 16>And that last night's game, you know, it was nice

1072
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 16>to see a really nice balanced game by the team.

1073
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, what not to poop it again, but

1074
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.519
<v Speaker 3>Baylor is not a good offensive team. They couldn't score

1075
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 3>and they're not and there's nothing the great defense, but

1076
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 3>they but they survived it, you know, right, but they

1077
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.519
<v Speaker 3>went on the road. Yeah, huge, huge deal, I'll give

1078
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.519
<v Speaker 3>you that. Yes, that's a.

1079
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.239
<v Speaker 10>Big that's so big because you know, that just makes

1080
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 10>that makes us look better when it comes to the

1081
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 10>tournament and where they're gonna put it low. Arizona won

1082
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 10>all these games in the conference on the road, which

1083
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 10>will help us out a great deal.

1084
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:43.800
<v Speaker 3>So, Brian, I know you're realistic. I don't even know

1085
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 3>why you call us because you're too realistic. But but Houston,

1086
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 3>you watch Houston game. You're at the Houston game. They

1087
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 3>played Houston. You know they're up. They just kind of

1088
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 3>lost it at the end. To me, not that it's

1089
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 3>a win, but it's near a damn win because Houston

1090
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 3>is not not an easy team to be anyway.

1091
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.840
<v Speaker 10>No, it's not, you know, it's they're not you know.

1092
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 10>Somehow we have to get ourselves out of the idea

1093
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 10>that when we drive down on that baseline, that for

1094
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 10>some reason we get stuck down there, you know, and

1095
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.119
<v Speaker 10>then all of a sudden there's two guys guarding one guy. Well,

1096
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 10>and you count the baseline two as three guys guarding

1097
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 10>one guy, and we just put ourselves in difficult spots.

1098
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 10>We can't get the ball back out. You know, I

1099
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 10>thought we took ourselves away from working the ball inside

1100
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 10>more than we should. We should because that team, Okay,

1101
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.960
<v Speaker 10>they're physical, we understand that, but they're not big physical. Okay,

1102
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 10>there's tallest guys, what's six ' eight. Well, we got

1103
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 10>a seven footer who's playing some really good ball right now.

1104
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 10>You know, I thought we should have gone more inside.

1105
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.159
<v Speaker 10>I mean, we still couldn't hit a three. Of our

1106
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 10>life depended on it.

1107
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do think though, I do you think that

1108
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 3>they're going to try to free up or so more

1109
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 3>for the catch and shoot, you know, because he can

1110
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 3>just get open and shoot.

1111
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 5>Don't even he said that. I think, yes, this morning

1112
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 5>and the last night. Just get open and we get

1113
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 5>to the ball. I don't even think. Just shoot, Yeah,

1114
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 5>just get it and shot.

1115
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.639
<v Speaker 10>As long as as long as he didn't at the dribble,

1116
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:08.559
<v Speaker 10>we're fine. Yeah, right, Okay, he's he's a terrible ballhander.

1117
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah no. And he's not a good defensively. Yeah.

1118
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.800
<v Speaker 6>If teams are playing zone, he's got to be a factor.

1119
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 6>I mean that's kind of why he's here, is to

1120
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:15.719
<v Speaker 6>be able to make that shot over the zone.

1121
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.559
<v Speaker 10>So right, right, you know, I thought Love played a

1122
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:21.599
<v Speaker 10>good game last night and I missed some shots but

1123
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 10>penetrated real well.

1124
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:25.280
<v Speaker 8>Move the ball around.

1125
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.800
<v Speaker 10>Bradley played better, you know, I thought Theaysart played really well.

1126
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I thought maybe the difference lately watch was

1127
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.239
<v Speaker 6>that Caleb wasn't jacking them up near the end like

1128
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 6>in the last maybe six minutes. Every time he had

1129
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 6>the ball. My thought was, just don't don't shoot it

1130
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.480
<v Speaker 6>from there now, you know, bring it inside.

1131
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 5>You know he no can was it?

1132
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.039
<v Speaker 6>You know, just don't don't fire it up from twenty

1133
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.559
<v Speaker 6>five feet now you can drive in and maybe you

1134
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.559
<v Speaker 6>know he's so effective that way too. He's good and

1135
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:58.239
<v Speaker 6>he's a good passer when he gets in the lane.

1136
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.320
<v Speaker 6>So he has two or three turn was that he

1137
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 6>should never It was just yeah, he know that one

1138
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 6>he had that one segment where he had like a turnover,

1139
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 6>a steal and a turnover like in fifteen seconds.

1140
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 12>It was.

1141
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 10>It was graazy, right, you know, also too of it.

1142
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.000
<v Speaker 10>You know, they had what five games left? I guess

1143
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 10>it is, Yeah, yeah, they have three home and two away.

1144
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 10>Yeah you know I'll take a three and two.

1145
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well you might have to, And it depends on

1146
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 3>the circumstances. But yeah, if they could steal one with

1147
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 3>the big guys, that's even better.

1148
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 8>You know, because you know you was playing better ball too.

1149
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 10>Yeah yeah, yeah, you know they bea Kansas the other night.

1150
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're playing them at Michale, so they have that

1151
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:41.000
<v Speaker 3>you little right thing for us. Yeah, Brian, thanks, we

1152
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.679
<v Speaker 3>got to go. Appreciate your call. Thanks for listening. Yeah,

1153
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:48.239
<v Speaker 3>a couple of quick comments. People love the interview with Evan.

1154
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 3>He was just he's the smarter one in the room.

1155
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 3>If you're if you're a college basketball fan, I would

1156
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 3>want to be his friend.

1157
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I was just gonnask him.

1158
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:57.519
<v Speaker 3>I think he do this is by himself, but it

1159
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.400
<v Speaker 3>seems like he had we he said we. I'm sure

1160
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 3>he's How are you going to I don't know, put

1161
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:03.760
<v Speaker 3>that baby together.

1162
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

1163
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:06.320
<v Speaker 3>It'd be fun to watch him in action. You should

1164
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:08.599
<v Speaker 3>go down and do a story. Yeah, sure, yeah, give

1165
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 3>you the money. I'll go to Baylor. I could have

1166
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:11.119
<v Speaker 3>done that last week.

1167
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 5>Are we good? We've got no time or we got

1168
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:14.480
<v Speaker 5>time to break?

1169
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:15.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1170
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay, thanks Dave Dune. Yeah, David goes back quickly when

1171
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.800
<v Speaker 3>you have a good show. Thank you Kobe for getting us.

1172
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 5>Through this, and we'll talk to you guys tomorrow with

1173
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 5>more stuff to talk about. Thanks guys,
