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Speaker 1: I made a decision.

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Speaker 2: Pay sunny Sun on my head a vision.

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Speaker 1: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to for crying out loud. What's happening?

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Speaker 1: It's Friday and we forgot.

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Speaker 2: To talk about Taylor Swift's stupid, dumb wedding. Who cares

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about it?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, do we care? We don't care, except that

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I think it's very interesting that Ryan Reynolds and Blake

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Lively were not invited.

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Speaker 2: That's the best part. That's the only thing I care about.

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Speaker 1: So Cecily and I covered this over on Rose Pricks.

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But but to me, that was the that was it,

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because building up to this, I feel like Taylor was

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being very cryptic about whether or not she and Blake

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are on good terms. Right, that's true? Yeah? Right? Didn't

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she make it seem like they're fine? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: There was rumor is like that they were like talking

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behind the scenes and trying to make up, you know,

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blah blah blah. I don't know how you come back

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from that though, all this shit that Blake put her

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through with those text messages, also threatening to release ten

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years of text messages if you don't like stand by

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her side?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Yeah? But was that proven that.

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She said, I'm going to release these that was Taylor

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Swiss father that came for and said that they that

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that was Yeah, they proved it from the from everything

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I've read that it was proven. Yeah. I mean that's

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like Trumbulla fotch.

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Speaker 2: I mean, live right, like if you got a lot

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of nerve, bitch like that. That was crazy. So yeah,

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I don't I don't think there was good there's ever gonna.

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And also she's supposed to be like the the godmother

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of Blake's children and still not like it. So that

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means that they are not speaking, they're not talking, they're done.

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Speaker 1: No, because you don't really come back from you weren't

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invited to my wedding? Right. That's a tough one, right, Yeah,

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that's a pretty big fight that, you know what I

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mean that you can't just be like, Okay, fine, she's

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not my favorite person, but I'm inviting her to the wedding. Right.

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Once you do that, you're like, I don't know how

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you ever know. I don't know how you would come

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back from that. And also there was like the rumors

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early on during the whole Baldoni thing that Kelsey what's

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his name, her husband Travis, Travis Kelsey, Yeah, unfollowed Ryan

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Reynolds on Instagram. Stop following him.

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Speaker 2: I think that he probably figured out that Ryan Rayl's

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is pretty big douchebag, you know, like kind of probably

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this fake guy that they went out to dinner with,

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and like, you know, he just like if once you

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get his number and you see through him, like you

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go like, this guy's a fucking douche Like he's just performative,

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you know, and he probably didn't like that. So on

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top of everything else, I.

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Speaker 1: Just don't know how Blake Lively. I mean, the whole

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thing feels very like victimizing herself in the first place,

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but then to drag your friend in it and be like,

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you're gonna come to my house and gang up on

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this guy with me, right. But the only thing that's

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confusing is that it did seem like Taylor was on

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her side the whole time, and based on some of

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her text messages, seemed like Taylor was like, yeah, fuckj

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Justin Baldoni, Yeah, called her clown, yeah, all this shit.

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So what changed?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that I think what happened was back then,

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I think that Taylor Swift was trying to be a

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good friend to Blake and believing everything that Blake was saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: There was no proof in any of the text messages

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that he sexually harassed her, Like there was nothing like

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where Taylor was like, I'm so sorry he made you

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feel uncomfortable. It was all like this guy's a clown,

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he's a fumbling it. He doesn't know what he's doing.

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And tell him, you like my cut of the movie

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better than his cut, Right, That's what it was about.

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So Taylor's like, hell, yeah, okay, ride or die. But

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then what happened was the whole what happened fucking uh.

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Speaker 1: Baldoni's lawyer dropped receipts, put out that whole all that website,

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and like, here's all the receipts, here's everything in context,

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here's what Blake Lively is accusing, and here's what Blake

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Lively did videos all the stuff, put it out there,

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and I think Taylor Swift was like what the fuck?

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Speaker 2: What the fuck? Like I was lied to kind of

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thing I think she saw. Otherwise, Taylor Swift has stuck.

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It's been proven she's stuck up for like Kesha or

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some other like friends of hers that were like sexually

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harassed and stuff like she stood by those friends. Blake

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Lively was really like uncomfortable and sexually harassed on set

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by Baldoni.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift would.

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Speaker 2: Have stuck by her side, and I think that's what

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she was thinking she was doing, but not with the

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sexual assault, with the other shit. So I think once

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all all the receipts came out, she was like, bitch,

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you fucking lied me, like this isn't this is not

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what you were telling me is the truth, and now

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you made me look like a mean girl, which she did.

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She looked like a mean girl in those texts, so

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she was like, now, look at you made me look

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like an asshole.

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Speaker 1: Fuck you.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna try and damage my reputation and then come

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after me and say I'm gonna release ten if you

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don't stand by me, I'm gonna release ten years of

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text messages.

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Speaker 1: Her father was.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift was the one that came out and said that,

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so you know, and then she fucking failed in the

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end anyway, she didn't get shit. And now she's suing

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for eight million dollars of legal fees, which is insane.

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So that's where she's at. Now she's still like doubling down.

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So yeah, she's not invited to the wedding. Boohoo, too bad,

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So sad.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know what you deserve. But remember when

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Taylor Swift came out her last album, she had that

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song about I like my friend's canceled. Yeah, everybody thought

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that was kind of a veiled homage to Blake Lively,

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like I'm on her side, like, go ahead and try

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to cancel her, but like, I like that, I like

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my you know right, No, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: If you're a normal person looking at these receipts, looking

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at the whole thing in context, and you're Taylor Swift,

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you're like, I feel like I was duped and I

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was like taken advantage of by like having me come

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there to the penthouse and saying I like the I

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like her cut better, Like.

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Speaker 1: I feel like she was like she even like.

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Speaker 2: Towards the end, there was a text message that said

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you feel I feel like Remember that there was a

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message that Taylor Swift sent to Blake Lively like I

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feel like you're talking to me like like I'm a

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like in corporate or whatever. Yeah, and then Blake right

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back and like dear customers. You know, yeah, thank you

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for your complaint, Like fuck off. So I think Taylor

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Swift was like she saw she saw the reality of

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what was going on, and she distanced herself.

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Speaker 1: But it did seem like from those texts that they

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were cool because Taylor kept being like no, no, no, we're good.

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We're good. I've just been really busy or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, I feel like she was getting sick and tired

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of hearing about Blake about BLOWDONI and not like paying attention.

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They're like nurturing their friendship because Blake's always what about

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about It's everything about her, So she was getting tired

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of it. But that was before anything came out, so

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she didn't know at that time of those text messages.

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So I think once everything dropped and she saw what

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was going on, she was like, fuck this shit, I'm out.

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Speaker 1: I don't want anything.

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Speaker 2: So she was so quiet about it for a long

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with people are like, you know, is she going to

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invite her to the super Bowl or not? And she

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didn't invite her the super Bowl, so it's like Okay,

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She's like saying, I don't want any part of this.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think happened imagine your one of your

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best friends is Taylor Swift and then they're not your

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best friend. I mean, has there been a bigger celebrity

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than Taylor Swift. She's I mean, it's a movement, it

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is a movie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she helps the economy and shit when she

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comes to town.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's got to feel so shitty to be like,

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oh my god, Taylor Swift fucking hates me. Didn't invite

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her to the web. Everybody knows that we were besties,

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right and now, literally Taylor Swift did not invite I mean,

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imagine the world knowing, Like imagine people in other countries knowing, like, oh,

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Blake Lively was not invited to the wedding.

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Speaker 2: I know, and it's like there, you know, it is

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a headline that she got she got married at Madison

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Square Garden and everything, But all the headlines are a

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picture of like Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. It's some

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like vineyard somewhere five hundred miles away from the wedding.

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Speaker 1: Watching their like daughter do horseback riding, right massage, and.

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Speaker 2: Her hair is like in a ponytail, Like that's the

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that's the photo I see, Like, like Taylor Swift get married.

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But then there's a photo of those two like looking

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like bums, Like, haha, you weren't invited, too bad.

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Speaker 1: No, it's like I wish I knew the inside because

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looking on the outside, of course, it's like to me

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and to you, Blake Lively sucks, like, that's not a

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friend who's going like, well, Taylor Swift was at my house,

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so she knows the story and she's going to testify.

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Blake Lively was. Blake Lively didn't suddenly become Blake as

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a person. According to a lot of things I've read

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Blake Lively, this is Blake Lively's m O is to

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try to get herself manipulate things so that she gets

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a credit for writing a movie right, right, which is

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what she did. She tried to and she I think

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preyed upon Justin Baldoni to be like, this fucking guy

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has no experience. I'm gonna waite, I'm going to walk

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in here, I'm going to rewrite this movie. I'm going

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to be the hero. And then ain't nobody liked the

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rewrite she did.

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Speaker 2: Right, and she would have never done that on the

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set of you know, a simple favor to that director

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or to the Woody Allen. She was never doing with

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that to the like she finally got a director of

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a franchise that he got under his belt and was like,

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holy shit, this guy's a fucking you know, a nobody,

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and I have my dragons, my husband, my best friend,

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and I'm going to take this fucking the rights away

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from this guy. And I'm going to ruin his life,

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and I'm going to tell everybody to unfollow him, and

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I'm going to put him in the basement of the

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premiere the movie, like you know, and then on top

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of it, act like a dumb ass like read the

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room when she was doing interviews for the movie about

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it's a sensitive subject the movie, and she's just like,

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you know, how's your baby bump?

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Speaker 1: You know, bring your bring your florals, you know.

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Speaker 2: With about that one interview where the guy was like,

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you know, what, what do you want to say? What

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if some fan comes up to you and says, I

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was in a you know, ah in a situation, or

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I was in a relationship with sexual with you know,

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domestic domestic violin And she's like, well, I don't know

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what you should I do? Should I give him my

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like my social security umber? Should give him my my

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three life three sixties? So I got to remember that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fuck she's gross.

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Speaker 2: So she, on top of it, came out to promote

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the movie, and she's promoting her Betty booze and her

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hair brand and not like getting and her jeans and

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like just joking around about it and stuff and acting

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like a bitch in in these junkets and then says,

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Baldoni's the one that's like smearing her, like really, like

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you smeared yourself basically, And by the way, Baldoni is

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not gonna smear Blake Lively. If you would act normal

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and you would have been. He's not gonna smear you.

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He's gonna want you because this is he just did.

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This movie made a ton of money. He's got this,

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you know, parts rights to the sequel. Why is he

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gonna like fucking smear the actress of his movie, Blake Lively?

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Speaker 1: Like doesn't That doesn't make any which is why all

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of those sexual assault allegations are making her feel uncomfortable.

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He was bending over backwards to make her feel comfortable,

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to just you know, you could see it in all

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their messages, Like when she was like I feel really

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fat or whatever, he was like, what, no, yay, so sexy,

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you look great? Hey when but he was like, but

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I think there was something where he was going to

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have to pick her up or something, and he was

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just I don't know, because he needed to know what

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she weighed. Yeah, and he wanted to know because her trainer,

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because his trainer, they were working with him on being

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able to like there's a scene where she had he

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was going to have to pick her up and he

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had some slip discs, like he had some serious back issues.

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So the trainer wanted to find out how much like

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weighs so that they can whatever figure it out. And

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that was that, you know, not like fat.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't fat shaming her, you know, it was just

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it was just the ridiculous and appalling and Ryan Reynolds

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like emails were just the worst too. So he looks

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like a jackass. But here's the thing, like.

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Speaker 1: Is she going to have a career.

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Speaker 2: He I think is going to be fine because people

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follow Marvel or don't give a shit about Baldoni and stuff,

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like he's going to be I think fine.

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Speaker 1: But with her. I don't know, like who wants to

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work with that. I don't think any directors that aren't

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really strong and experienced are going to want to deal

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with her.

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Speaker 2: No, now you're but probably like older directors that are

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that don't give a shit about that. Maybe like I

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don't know, uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe has she been in anything since? No? No, yeah,

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not that I know of. I mean it's like, I

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remember when I first heard about it, and I was

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totally on her side, and then it's like you start

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learning more and more and more and you're like what, Yeah,

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remember when that the footage came out of the it

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was like she accused him of trying to kiss her

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and doing all this stuff. And then the dailies, yeah,

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the dancing, and then those dailies came out. I watched

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all of it on YouTube and I was like, wow,

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she sucks, right, he did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she said that he, you know, was smelling her

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and said you smell so good. That's literally what she

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said in her deposition. Yeah, and you go and watch

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the video and he's like like on her neck and

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she's like you probably can smell my spray tan And

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he was like oh, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Smells it smells good like yuky bitch. And she had

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said I think this scene would be better like if

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they don't kiss, right, and he's like okay. He didn't say, like, well,

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let's just try one where we make out, right. He

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was like okay. She was like, yeah, it'll be better.

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It'll be better just like we'll get close to it.

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So he's trying to play it. He did not try

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to kiss her. You're watching the Daily's uncut, yes, and

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he's just like, like you said, kind of like smelling

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her and getting close and like, But because they're supposed

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to be playing people who are about to fuck exactly,

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who are in love, like falling in love with each other,

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So what is he not supposed to like be close

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to you, like, I know, what are you doing what?

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So he's trying to like kind of snuggle on her,

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and she's sort of backing away a little bit, but

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he's never pushes her. And then at the end of

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the scene he goes they go cut. He says cut

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because he's the director, and he's like, Okay, we're good.

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Speaker 2: I think we're right right, walks away, And that's why

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I think the judge took out when her case was

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going to go to trial, took out all the sexual

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harassment stuff because the judge. I remember him saying something like, listen,

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this is If this was like in a corporate office,

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you'd have a different case. But we're doing you're doing

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a movie about you know, you guys are in love

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Speaker 1: It's a movie. Like what what is he is? He?

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Speaker 2: That's what he's doing. Like he's doing his job by

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like going up and down your neck and stuff like that. Right,

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so you know, if you're gonna feel uncomfortable, maybe you're

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in the wrong business.

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Now where the hell is Xander?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so where I last left you and where we

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were updating people on Facebook? First of all, everybody needs

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to calm down a little bit, like for everybody was

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coming for us with the ice cream? Remember that? Oh

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yeah apparently, and then I got I got it into

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my head. You guys got it into my head. Blame

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yourselves for this of going like, maybe that just doesn't

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make sense. Maybe they meant ice No, apparently they did

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mean ice cream. And Xander was like, it lasted like

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a few days in the cooler. It did, and he says,

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the only thing is that's weird is that they even

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asked me to bring ice cream because they brought so

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much ice cream. Oh my god, so yours? Wow, here's

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how it went down. Yeah, I found this out later.

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Oh and then also somebody that I really like, I

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think it was Catherine Keys, was like, did you do

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you have the license number of the car that they're driving.

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I was like, oh no, new fear level unlocked. Thank you,

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thank you, for that. No, I did no due diligence.

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I'm lucky that I got the mom's phone number, which

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I have not used. Right, So I want to know

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why they were at the credit union. I don't think

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they were. I think it just maybe they parked, maybe

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they got what they pete or something. I don't know.

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But then they lost They lost internet shortly after that, okay,

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So I was kept checking back and I didn't realize

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that it was just stuck, because that's what happens. Yeah, yeah,

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that's what happened. So they got there, everything's fine. They

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they lost internet early, so I didn't hear from him

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for a few days, and that was a little bit

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nerve wracking because he left on a Monday, oh, I know, Thursday,

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and I updated this on Facebook. Thursday. All of a sudden,

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he popped up. He texted us, okay, and he was like, hey,

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I just briefly have like internet. And they were at

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Big sur State Park, like Fifer State Park. So I

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was so excited and I was like, oh my god,

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are you having fun? You know? And he's like, it's great,

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We're having so much fun. We just drove from our

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campsite to this. We're doing this hike. So we couldn't

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really talk long, but I was like, oh my god,

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are you like tell me everything? He really couldn't talk

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that much, but he was like, I'm having such a

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good time. I'm taking lots of pictures. Everything's good. That's

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good good. So I was like Okay. Then Friday, maybe

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Saturday night we realized wen'day do to come home? He's home.

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He came home, but when was he do? Oh? So

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I thought he was coming home on Monday. So the

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whole thing started where he was like, I really want

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to go on this camping trip, but we wouldn't come.

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I'd miss your birthday. We'd come home the next day.

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And I was like, that's fine, we'll go out like

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the next night. He was actually always coming home Sunday,

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but just like late in the day. Okay. So Saturday

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we realized that he had a satellite. Even though it

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said so it was the same thing as sunny Yeah.

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So even though it said that his phone was off

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or he was out of range, he was able to text,

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and it just said it was hitting.

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Speaker 2: Us and is using satellite? Yeah yeah, And then it's

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like a little like icon of a satellite. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So he was talking to John and said that he

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was coming home the next day because yesterday, which was

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we're recording on a Monday, so that was on Sunday.

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So then of course I watched him. As soon as

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he came into Range on Sunday, I could see that

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he was where he was, and then I watched him

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and he had a great time. Oh and then John

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was like okay. I kept going like, so was it

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really fun? Like do you wish you were doing it

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for another week? Or are you ready to come home?

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And he was like no, bro, I'm ready to be home. Yeah.

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And then John was like, so are you reconsidering like

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going to UC Santa Cruz And he was like, no,

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absolutely not, but I had an epic time. Oh. I guess,

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as we talked about on Paige Treon, that's my positive kid.

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That's just like camping. Sure, let's do it. He said that.

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He said they did all these really hard hikes because

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they're a very outdoorsy family, so it was it was

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the mom It's turned out that they took two cars,

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and he said they had many coolers. So what I

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was imagining was, oh, they have one cooler and now

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they're like, does anyone have a cooler? It's like, you

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people have been camping before, where's your cooler? Well, I

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guess they had a lot of gear. So the mom

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drove a pickup truck and had two of the kids

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in her car. So it was it was okay, Xander's

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friend Izzy and her two brothers. The younger brother brought

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a friend and Xander was like, they're being friends with

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the older daughter in the middle son. So it was one, two, three, four,

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five kids. Five kids went adults, so not as many

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original one adult, one adult. The mom, oh single mom. Okay,

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so but into camping. Wow, yeah, Sonny would love that mother.

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Oh my god. So he was like, they were putting

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me on these hikes that were like very the most difficult,

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and they were like, well, you'll be fine, and he's

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like yeah, but he's like I like that. Yeah, I

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like that. I like a challenge, right right right, he goes.

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, wow, what about any bears?

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Speaker 1: No bears? He said they encountered a lot of skunks.

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Ooh interesting, they were near the water. But he said

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at one point the mom kept saying there was a

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special tent that was sealed with the rest of their

469
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,000
food in it, and one night the younger kids left

470
00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:53,079
it and they didn't secure the tent and some raccoons

471
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,319
got in there and ate their food.

472
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,039
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, So did she make a tent? So

473
00:24:58,079 --> 00:24:59,440
he slept in a tent.

474
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: So the older daughter, the three of the kids slept

475
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,000
in one tent, the mom slept in her own tent,

476
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,240
and then the two younger boys slept in a tent. Wow,

477
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,079
three tents. And they all were together the whole time, like,

478
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,319
because I was like, did you ever split off? Did

479
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,079
they ever? And he was like, no, we pretty much everywhere.

480
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:20,960
I'll probably like this together. Yeah, And they all went

481
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,640
on all the hikes and they did everything together. But

482
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,000
he took so many pictures that looked really beautiful. Yeah,

483
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:31,119
and it was like not like I was at his age.

484
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,920
He was like, oh my god, this one was my

485
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000
favorite because it was so beautiful. Yeah, isn't that crazy?

486
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: Like Sonny too, when he brings back like look how

487
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:40,160
beautiful this waterfall is.

488
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I know, like you don't have to

489
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,000
go camping that you could just look at pictures and

490
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:52,359
like let's go on YouTube. Yeah right, yeah dude. Yeah,

491
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,400
But he loved IDI had so much fun. That's great.

492
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,920
We're just I just not a big hiking person. No.

493
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,559
Speaker 2: Same like, I don't think any of my friends are

494
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,599
hikers either, now that I think about it. Suzanne, No,

495
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,319
Melissa no, like no, No, nobody really likes to hike.

496
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,839
Speaker 1: I like nature, I really do. Like I do like

497
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,160
being out. Yeah, I have memory. I have some good

498
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,160
memories of camping as a kid, but I don't like

499
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,559
the getting there or the packing or any of that

500
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,400
part setting up. Yeah, and probably once you're there and

501
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,759
you're like, you do your one hike and you're like,

502
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,960
oh my god, it's so beautiful, then I'd be like,

503
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:33,039
now I want to go home and watch not But

504
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,599
then it's you're like, oh, buckle up, yes we're not

505
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:39,720
coming home for a week. Now, be over it right away. Yeah,

506
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,400
we would go.

507
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: It was great when we went camping before we got married.

508
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,240
We would go camping with everybody like Tony Barbieri and

509
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:49,599
his wife and sal Melissa and Jimmy and Jean, like

510
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,799
we would all go camping for Fourth of July and

511
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,079
we always would leave a day or two earlier, like

512
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,720
Adam and be like, all right, I'm done with this.

513
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,680
They want to stay another day. I'm like, I don't

514
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,680
want to stay, and he's like, a let's go, and

515
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,519
we would just do like we would leave early in

516
00:27:05,519 --> 00:27:09,119
the morning before ah the Corolla's left, not saying goodbye,

517
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,480
but we would do that. We would go camping like

518
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,400
intents or in cabins. Because Tony Barbieria and I have

519
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,200
the same birthday. Oh you do on the same day. Yeah,

520
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,079
so every August, and it's always by Labor Day weekend,

521
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,400
it's at the end of August, so we would everybody

522
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,960
would go camping together and then they would celebrate a

523
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,200
birth like our birthdays.

524
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,279
Speaker 1: That's why.

525
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,279
Speaker 2: I don't know why we did it, like three years

526
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,440
in a row, which was crazy, but not when.

527
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:38,599
Speaker 1: I was a kid, not really. I just went with

528
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,759
the school right and then I never really took the

529
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:42,599
kids camping.

530
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:45,759
Speaker 2: They never really wanted to. They they did with their

531
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:48,000
friends a couple times, but that was about it.

532
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: You know, Listen, it just seems like some I'm like why, Well,

533
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,440
as you know, Sadie would has no interest in going camping,

534
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,960
and anytime I would even offer anything sort of adventurous,

535
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,880
my kids are like me a lot of the time.

536
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,680
I mean, yeah, I mean, like, I think Xander would

537
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,839
have been up for stuff, but I think LB would

538
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,839
have been like huh and say no, so then I

539
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,200
have to drag them. I also remember when my kids

540
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,640
were a little younger, everything was a big production, a

541
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:24,160
big shaw because they got carsick, even up through even recently,

542
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,839
Xander said he felt carsick coming home from the trip.

543
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,519
So you know the time I surprised them and took

544
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:33,200
them to Lego Land, that was like a huge ordeal. Yes, yeah,

545
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:38,559
I know, yeah, yeah, what there was the kid?

546
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:43,799
Speaker 2: Didn't you take them to Gray's Lodge, the Groves Wolf Lodge?

547
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, great wolf Lodge, But that's not I've never went there.

548
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:50,799
But that's not camping, that's that's like a hotel. Yeah.

549
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Natalia has been at her boyfriend's now for like over

550
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,079
a week at his family's house in Lake Tahoe, and

551
00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,880
they have a boat. So I'm getting videos and stuff

552
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,279
of her wakeboarding. Now she's like doing wakeboarding. She's like

553
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,759
tried very hard to do it. She couldn't get up,

554
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,640
she couldn't get up. Finally she got up. So now

555
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,920
she's like sending me she makes it look easy. I'm

556
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,799
just watching her. I'm like, that's so cool. So she's

557
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:16,960
having a good old time. But they're not camping, but

558
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,839
like they're on the lake, which is nice. You know,

559
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,960
it's fun. I'm going on the lake in two weeks, yay,

560
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,920
two weeks, three weeks, Yeah, to Glenn's house in Parker,

561
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,400
which is fun. Like all of our friends are going

562
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,359
to go again. And he's got a boat.

563
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: It's that stuff. I like. Same, I like being on

564
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:38,279
the boat on the river whatever. That that's fun. I

565
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,319
love water stuff all me too, going out on boats.

566
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,519
The best time I ever had was water skiing. Yeah,

567
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:49,440
I got up. Same, Yeah, maybe i'll water ski this time.

568
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,160
I only did it once, and it was when I

569
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,880
was a camp counselor for a YMCA camp. And you

570
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,480
did it and you got up. Yeah. I was thirty

571
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,599
and I've told you this story before. My friend was like,

572
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,200
it was a volunteer thing. I volunteered to be a

573
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,359
camp counselor. I was on the older side. It was

574
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,799
super fun. And remember I was like, I want the

575
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,680
older girls. I want like people I can relate to. Yeah,

576
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,640
you want like young girl. I don't want to be

577
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,960
teaching like elementary school. I want like So I got

578
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,839
the thirteen year olds. There were all like eye rolling,

579
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,880
sneaking off to smoke pot. You know. We were coming

580
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,799
up with a you had to do a sket like

581
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,799
not a skit, but like you know, like a skit

582
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,400
like this song so ours was to you can ring

583
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:44,640
my bell, you can ring mob ring mother. Yeah, I'm

584
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,160
glad you're home and a pood away the dishes. Anyway,

585
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,480
we found a way to make it kind of like inappropriate.

586
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: Right now, of course, yeah, that's funny.

587
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the cool thing about that was I got

588
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:02,559
to do all this stuff that the campers did right right.

589
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,480
I learned how to water ski. It was the best time. Yeah,

590
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,599
but I'm just not motivated enough to figure out like

591
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:12,680
how to do that right, Like do they have like

592
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400
could you go to like Big Bear Lake and then

593
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,880
sign up for waters? I mean, how do you even

594
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,240
do it?

595
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: I think you got to go in someone's boat, yes,

596
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,599
Because when we were teenagers, our friend Scott had a

597
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,240
boat and we would go all the time to like

598
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:28,519
Lake have Asu, all these different places.

599
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: God, there was.

600
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: One like Millerton which was so far away anyway, and

601
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,680
he would we would get in the back of his

602
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,279
boat and everybody knew how to water ski because they

603
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:39,960
all did it when they were young. But of course

604
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,680
I didn't do it. So I was like sixteen and I.

605
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: Learned and I was like, so when I got up,

606
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:46,400
I was like, oh my god, I'm water skiing like

607
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:50,440
it was great. You know, it's fun. It's fun. Yeah,

608
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,599
So that's the way to do it. I mean, I've

609
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,480
never even been ziplining. I'm still, oh my god, you

610
00:31:55,519 --> 00:32:00,160
have to go ziplining. I know you should, like when

611
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,359
you get older, just everything seems hard, like you're like, okay,

612
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,559
but then what do we do with the dog? And

613
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,000
I heard about this place. Oh oh, I know what

614
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,759
I wanted to tell you about too, And then we

615
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,359
have some other topics, but I just wanted to tell

616
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:20,000
you that. So for Fourth of July, I was invited

617
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:23,759
to this barbecue. But we've never had Bob over a

618
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:28,359
Fourth of July, and Bob is Bob is very scared

619
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240
of stuff. And I really do think because when we

620
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:33,960
got him and we took him to the vet and

621
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,359
they found all these scabs all over his face. And

622
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,440
I told you, the vet was like, this dog has

623
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,759
been attacked by their dogs. It's not like a skin

624
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:44,720
infection because it wasn't anywhere else on his body, and

625
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:48,759
she's like, that's where they start biting their face, you know.

626
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:53,680
So he's scared of other dogs. He gets over it

627
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:57,240
if he gets introduced to them. He's not at all

628
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,920
aggressive with anybody else, so he doesn't growl, just get scared.

629
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:03,920
He tucks his tail between his lips and he like

630
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,200
backs away and he you know, he's being assaulted in

631
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,480
some way. So I was like, and he's scared of

632
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,799
loud noises. So I was like, I don't know how

633
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,559
the fourth is going to go for this dog. So

634
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,200
I stayed home with him on the third. The night before,

635
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,920
I took him for a walk with my neighbor Mitch,

636
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,400
and these fucking assholes in our neighborhood were like redted

637
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:32,319
park lighting off fireworks and he freaked the fuck out,

638
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:36,279
hated it was like, and then scared. The next night,

639
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:41,359
which was last night, yeah, or the night before, I

640
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,319
can't remember. I think it might have been on the fourth,

641
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,720
and there were the people weren't lighting them off near

642
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:49,400
our house at the time. It was earlier. He was

643
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,920
like shell shock from the night before. He wouldn't walk,

644
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,920
he wouldn't like, he just kept stopping and like looking

645
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,960
around like kind of freezing in places. He was like traumatized.

646
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,319
So I gave him a Trosa doone wow drugged him

647
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,960
up and uh, and I gave him one. So I

648
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,679
gave him one when we got home on July third,

649
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,079
because he was so upset and pacing and when I

650
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,079
went to take a shower, he like was sleeping it.

651
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:20,800
He went under my desk. Oh mellowed him out and

652
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,119
he went to sleep. But then on the fourth I

653
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,760
didn't medicate him. But then last night I had to

654
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,559
give him a pill again because we went out and

655
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,920
there was no fireworks and he was still scared, scared.

656
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,159
He wouldn't walk. He was yeah, oh no. Anyway, My

657
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:42,000
point is, I guess I have a slightly high needs dog. Yeah,

658
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,559
And now I just have to make sure I worry

659
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:48,400
about like going out of town and leaving him somewhere

660
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,800
right right. I don't know if he'll hey, if it'll

661
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,920
be like a little bit traumatizing to just be like,

662
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,639
you know what I mean, he's not going to understand

663
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:01,719
that he's boarding unless and the thing would mitigate that

664
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,440
would be if it's really fun and there's this place

665
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,400
called like I want to say. It's called Paradise something.

666
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,880
Have you heard of this? Yeah, I think I'm Sally. Yeah,

667
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,840
and it's all these little like swim and they and

668
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,079
the dogs love it. And one of my neighbors was like,

669
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:18,599
her dog is a little bit like Bob, but when

670
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:20,840
he goes to that place, he loves it so much.

671
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:23,920
But so I might go and check them out, see

672
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,599
if I can bring Bob there for the day.

673
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, I was going to say, see if you

674
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,840
can do a day day thing. Yeah, yeah, that would

675
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,440
be good because then maybe if he if he socializes

676
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,880
with these other dogs and stuff and he gets used

677
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,159
to being around others, I.

678
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,079
Speaker 1: Have to see if he will socialize with other dogs. Right,

679
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,119
you should test it out. But let's talk about hero bread,

680
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,880
something everybody likes, including dogs if you give it to them.

681
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,800
We talked last week about the fact that Elbe is

682
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,039
like obsessed with like, yeah, carb eating the low neck

683
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:02,079
carbs and high protein, high fiber. And I got her

684
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:07,960
some hero tortillas. Yeah, and she's absolutely obsessed. Listen, if

685
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,360
you've got a teenager in your home or whatever, who's

686
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:10,840
into this.

687
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: My daughter Ystlia loves all the hero bread, all that stuff.

688
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,920
We've gotten I've gotten her the bagels before that she

689
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:21,480
loves and the noodles that they sent she loves. So

690
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,760
it's really delicious. It's really good, yeah, really good.

691
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: And they have bagels, tortillas, English muffins, like you said,

692
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:32,360
everything and you'll never know. It's zero to five grams

693
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,039
of net carbs and eleven to thirty two grams of fiber. Yeah,

694
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,679
but it has a great texture. And hero Bread is

695
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,840
offering ten percent off your order. So go to hero

696
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,960
dot co and use code fcol at checkout. That's hero

697
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:52,679
h e r O dot C and use the code

698
00:36:52,719 --> 00:37:00,360
fcol Hey. So yeah, so Xander, Oh that's great. So

699
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,960
the I texted you, Yes, I want to hear about

700
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,559
We have two quick things. One is I texted you

701
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,280
this documentary that you said you already watched on Hulu

702
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:11,880
called Little Miss Innocent.

703
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: It's really good. I watched it a long time ago,

704
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,079
probably over a year ago.

705
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,199
Speaker 1: Now I knew the story from hearing it from an

706
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,519
old date line, right right, But this was so different

707
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:27,239
because right from the beginning when you watch the dateline,

708
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,239
it's way more of a who done it? And then

709
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,280
you find out at the end that it was the

710
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,360
so like, I don't think this is like a spoiler

711
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,320
alert because this documentary opens with this girls in jail. Yeah,

712
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:44,280
so that there's a family, the mom, and she's like

713
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,599
a chiropractor, right right, She's she has her own clinic.

714
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,719
She has her own clinic. She's married to a guy,

715
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,239
and she has a son, and the son had a girlfriend,

716
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,480
and the girlfriend worked at the place, right.

717
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,159
Speaker 2: It was like a kind of family business, right what

718
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,559
everybody didn't So it's just her that work there.

719
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: No, I think the son and the and the son's

720
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,800
girlfriend both worked there. Yeah, okay, yeah, so the son

721
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,039
and this girl and the mom was very respected, right now.

722
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:18,679
Everybody everybody loved her, yeah, helf conscious, always having her smoothies, right, yeah,

723
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,880
very beloved. And the son and his girlfriend had a

724
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,199
super toxic relationship and he would leave her messages and

725
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,639
stuff and just be like I'm just really like, what

726
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:35,079
are you doing to me? Like it was weird, Like

727
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:39,320
he was weird. Uh huh. So and she comes across

728
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,719
when she's so she's interviewed from the beginning, and she's like,

729
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,559
I did not do this, like and basically kind of

730
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:50,800
blaming the son. So what happened? Who she do what

731
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:54,920
do what? Oh? So the woman, the the woman the

732
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:02,280
chiropractor gets killed and Culture Scene find out she gets drugged. Okay,

733
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,880
so she they find her dead. She's really sick and

734
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,440
she thinks she has food poisoning or something. And she's

735
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:11,960
like driving home and she's on the phone with her

736
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,639
husband and she's like, oh my god, Oh my god,

737
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,719
that's right, that's sick. And then they send her to

738
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,920
the emergency room and then her organs start failing and

739
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,519
then she dies, right, and everybody's like, what the fuck?

740
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,360
What happened? What happened? Yeah, they can't find anything wrong,

741
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,039
but then they do like a toxicology, they look for poison,

742
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,480
and they do find this drug called Culture scene.

743
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: Right, I remember vividly a picture of it, like in

744
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,039
the truck on the floor.

745
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: Yes, because okay, it's so crazy, so and I don't

746
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,280
want to give everything away. But the girl girlfriend who's

747
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,960
who from the beginning of this documentary is in jail

748
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,360
doing her interview from jail, and like, this is so crazy.

749
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,599
I did not do it. But somebody writes anonymous letter

750
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,719
to the police and says, if you want to know,

751
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,679
like the culture scene where the Culture Scene came from.

752
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:10,880
Look in his I forgot the guy's name. Let's call

753
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,559
him Dan. Looking Dan's on the passenger side of Dan's truck.

754
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,920
So the persons are like, holy shit, yes, her son.

755
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,679
They all go and they get that, they get the

756
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,719
truck and they find the culture scene and he's like, dude,

757
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,360
I do not what the fuck. I don't know where

758
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,880
that came from. Right, But it is a little bit

759
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:35,360
like you do go back and forth. So they's kind

760
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,920
of the sun is sort of an unreliable narrator, Like

761
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,960
he's weird, and he's a really bad alcoholic, and it

762
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,119
does seem like he might have been kind of abusive.

763
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:49,159
Speaker 2: And the girlfriend though she looks like prim and proper,

764
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:52,239
doesn't she like, she looks super sweet and innocent, like

765
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,960
you would never ever. People liked her, that the mother

766
00:40:56,039 --> 00:41:00,519
in law liked her. Everybody liked her, and.

767
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: That's why they called her little miss Innocent, right, But

768
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,559
she so yeah, and she said, so she accused the son,

769
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:15,159
her boyfriend, of like raping her, remember that? And he

770
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:18,719
but he's like, and she's like, well, you were just drunk,

771
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,760
you were blacked out, you don't remember. He's like, I

772
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,639
didn't do I don't remember that, like I was, and

773
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:27,320
she's like, yeah, but you did, and it turned it

774
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,599
turns out, well you got to watch it, but did

775
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:32,039
you think it was so good? And go back when

776
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:34,480
you're watching it, go yes, yes, Oh my god, I'm

777
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:37,039
not sure what I believe. Yeah, maybe, and it's going

778
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:40,639
to be really obvious, but the whole but I think

779
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:43,239
it's a couple episodes. There is like three year couples.

780
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:47,119
Uh yeah, yeah, it gets three episodes and it's on Hulu. Yes,

781
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,920
but you will go back and forth going oh wait,

782
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,559
well yeah, because you're like this, she doesn't seem like

783
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,119
she why would you what's her motive? Like why would

784
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:58,920
she kill the mother? Like you find out Yeah, you're like,

785
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,920
you know who has a motive? Is the sun? Is

786
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,920
the sun? Right? So you're thinking like no, like they

787
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:09,280
he like somehow and also the husband though okay, forgot

788
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,320
about the husband. Yeah he was suspect. Suspect too. I

789
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,679
mean you're gonna be like, how are they going to

790
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,159
land on this person? And do they other? Right person? Right?

791
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: Right?

792
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Until the end. It's good. It's really I remember.

793
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,760
Yeah I might have talked about it. I don't know.

794
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: I watched it like I want to say, like over

795
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,480
a year ago. It's a long time ago.

796
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: I don't feel like you told me about it though. Yeah,

797
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,039
maybe I forget. Yeah, you were holding out on me.

798
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,119
I know. I stayed home on the fourth of July.

799
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,719
The entire day. I laid in bed and like, watch TV.

800
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:41,719
What did you watch? What did you watch? I don't.

801
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,719
I couldn't even tell you. I know, I just watched

802
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,559
different Hulu documentaries. I just kept going back and forth

803
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:53,079
on stuff. Yeah, I also re listened due to my memory.

804
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,039
It is the greatest gift because I've told you that

805
00:42:56,039 --> 00:43:01,360
the Heaven's Gate podcast, oh, the greatest podcast. I literally

806
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,480
started that at the beginning, didn't and was loving it

807
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:08,000
all over again. I've watched the documentary. I've listened to

808
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:12,400
Heaven's Gate the podcast, yees, probably seven times, all right, right, right,

809
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,880
it's the gift that keeps on giving. YEP. I have

810
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,079
the same thing with Locked Up Abroad.

811
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: I've been watching that like at night, you know, I

812
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,880
need something to like fall asleep to, So I'm like,

813
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,480
just watch Locked Up Abroad, like it's all new to me.

814
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,800
I know I've seen all these before. There are some

815
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,639
new ones though that I've been that have been inserted

816
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:35,719
there that I've never seen, Like, there's somewhere there's people

817
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,719
that go and infiltrate the cartel, and that's not Locked

818
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,119
Up Abroad. That's them talking about infiltrating. You know, there

819
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,519
is some of those stories. But I love it. It's

820
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:48,519
so good. Locked Up Abroad never gets old for me.

821
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: So they've made the podcast based on the show, right,

822
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,480
which is really good, but there's only like eighteen episodes

823
00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:57,039
or something.

824
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,639
Speaker 2: Now I go to Apple TV and they're all there,

825
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,719
like seven or eight seasons.

826
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh, because then there's the lot.

827
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: There's the ones that are smuggling drugs, but then there's

828
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,519
also ones where people were like, you know, doing like

829
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,880
a humanitarian trip you know, to like some of these

830
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,800
war torn countries, and then they get kidnapped and held

831
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,960
for ransom and they're there for years and you're they're

832
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,440
telling their story. So it's like, wow, it's all new.

833
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000
I've i han't seen it in all years.

834
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: So good. Yeah, And also just can you update me

835
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:30,480
it's going on with the Karen Reid the Michael Proctor thing.

836
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,400
So the Michael there's an update.

837
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: So Michael Proctor who was the detective in charge of

838
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,079
Karen Reid's case. When we talked last, I told you

839
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:46,679
all about his horrible text messages to fellow cops. Very racist,

840
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,199
very misogynist, like anybody is a target, everybody like women,

841
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:58,159
you know, minorities, everything. Horrible guy even talked about planting evidence.

842
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:01,400
Sound like maybe one to plant some tail light too

843
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,920
while he's at it, you know, talked about planting evidence.

844
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,360
So his life, like his wife left him. Now he's

845
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,960
got to get deposed by Alan Jackson, who's Karen Reid's

846
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,280
fucking awesome lawyer, and he's like, give me a piece

847
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,119
of him, Like he wants to depose this proctor guy.

848
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,800
So he tried to get out of his deposition. He's

849
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,840
saying that he is going to be His lawyers in

850
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,760
court said he's going to be gone for thirty days

851
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,639
and he can't sit for a deposition. So basically people

852
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:34,519
are like, oh, he's like going to his wife left him.

853
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,800
Everybody knows what a piece of shit he is. He's ashamed,

854
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,719
so he's going like some rehab in Florida. That's so okay.

855
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,199
So the judge was like, okay, fuck that, We're gonna

856
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,360
still see I don't care we're gonna still see he's

857
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,599
got to sit for deposition. So he had one day

858
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:54,559
of deposition like a week ago, and reportedly Turtle Boy

859
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:58,000
reported that somebody reported to him that he was seen

860
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,559
outside of the deposition having like a pan attack.

861
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: I'll be right.

862
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,679
Speaker 2: So then he went went back in, finished his one

863
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,880
day deposition, had to sit for a second day. But

864
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,719
then the judge got word that somehow it was leaked

865
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,519
on Twitter that somebody on Twitter leaked that his medical

866
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,280
his medical information, saying that it was leaked on Twitter

867
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,719
at this time, at two o'clock this period, you know whatever,

868
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:28,239
somebody put on Twitter that Michael Proctor is in a

869
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,840
rehab in Florida, and that's what you know. And so

870
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,519
the judge got pissed. The judge called last week on

871
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:39,039
the Friday before fourth of July, called thirty four attorneys

872
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:41,719
that are all part of this case, had them fly

873
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,039
into Massachusetts. Alan Jackson at a fly from LA They

874
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:48,360
were all there in person. He gave this, I watched

875
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,679
Melanie little dude, because she's a lawyer. I watched her

876
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,199
recover it like she was there alive watching him breaking

877
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,719
it down. He basically said somebody he had all the

878
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,159
lawyers sign an affidavit that they did not leak that information,

879
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,000
which they didn't, and he basically read them the Riot

880
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:07,599
Act and said if if any more information gets leaked about.

881
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,000
First of all, he was saying, this case is becoming

882
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,079
a spectacle. There's too much interest, and people are like,

883
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,360
there's interest in it because yeah, there's corruption going on

884
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,000
in Massachusetts, like all the way to the top, Like

885
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,400
there's corruption and they're trying to expose it. And the

886
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,480
judge is like, too much social media interest in this case,

887
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:30,880
and blah blah blah, and if anything else, he goes

888
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,599
and I'm going to stay, which means he's going to

889
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:37,199
stay Michael Procter's deposition for now. He's not allowed to

890
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,679
be deposed anymore at this point in time, and he

891
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,760
might keep it a stay for good if anything else

892
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,000
gets leaked. And he read them meaning like they can't

893
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,440
fucking depose Michael Proctor anymore, Like why why are they

894
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,320
protecting this piece?

895
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: Why is this judge protecting this piece of shit?

896
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, it turned out, by the way Tortal

897
00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,760
Boy looked into it. Yeah, so he read the Riot

898
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Act for like ten minutes, said Happy fourth of July goodbye,

899
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,000
and then Alan Jackson stood up and was like, we're

900
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:07,559
not allowed to be heard, and the judge walked off

901
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:08,800
and that was that.

902
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: That was it.

903
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: That was on the right before the fourth of July,

904
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,920
turtle Boy found out this ex person on x on

905
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,760
Twitter that posted this was him.

906
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:20,679
Speaker 1: He posted something.

907
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: He said, he got he got he got an, he

908
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:29,000
got a he got a message from somebody that said

909
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,119
that Michael Proctor's ex wife is telling people at her

910
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:35,639
work that he's going to rehab in Florida. So Turtle

911
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:40,440
Boy two days before this thing got leaked, so it

912
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,480
wasn't a leaked the judge was wrong.

913
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:43,559
Speaker 1: The judge was wrong.

914
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: Two days before it came out in court, turtle Boy says,

915
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,480
Michael Proctor's ex wife says he's in Florida in a rehab.

916
00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:53,480
So he posted that and it was like posted. The

917
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:56,679
judge says it was a post at like ten twenty

918
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,639
six am, the ex post came out and Turtle Boy said,

919
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,000
I posted something that day, but it was at two

920
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:07,639
twenty six pm. And somebody said, when you take a screenshot,

921
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,360
if you don't have Twitter and you send that picture

922
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,639
to the judge, it's gonna it's gonna change the time,

923
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,199
like they tested it. So it changed the time to

924
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,719
ten twenty six. So he's seen this tweet. He got

925
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,599
it all wrong, Like Turtle Boy just just reported what

926
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:26,679
he got two days before. So the judge is fucked.

927
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,440
Everybody's figured out now that the judge was wrong. So

928
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:32,519
now that's where we're at, like we don't know. Wow,

929
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,960
but it's like why are they protected? You could get

930
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,480
away with it.

931
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: He could get away with it.

932
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:41,159
Speaker 2: And like and now because the judge said that, don't

933
00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:43,599
you people are saying, like, fucking Procter. Now it's gonna

934
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:46,000
leak more, Like he's gonna leak his own a medical

935
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,559
so that he can get protected by this judge. Like

936
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:52,239
he now he's got the power to like, hey, have

937
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,280
a family member leak more information about his shit to

938
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,480
piss off the judge, and the judge could be like Okay,

939
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:00,679
no more, no more Procter uh deposition for you guys,

940
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,079
Like wow, Like he could get away with it like that.

941
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: Wow. So that's where we're at now. Crazy. Yeah, keep

942
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,880
an eye on this one. I know it's really good

943
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,320
for sure, I will, I will, Yeah, keep me up

944
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,320
to date. Yeah, Well this was super fun. Yeah, let's

945
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,639
say hi to our friends. We got Dick, who's frolicking,

946
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,079
Nikki call your girl, come on. Elizabeth Williamson has so

947
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,840
many kids. She keeps having them, she keeps having him.

948
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: But you know rocked and and uh.

949
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Polly, we love your pancakes. Valerie, Bubba Fenwick.

950
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: It's out of the park, Katerina, girl, check that thing already.

951
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,119
Speaker 1: It's gonna fall out or be pulled out. Yeah, Bobby

952
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:49,079
and Missy still at the firework Daryl trying to sell

953
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:54,159
fireworks and flip flops. Yep, Sean Fosh Okay, Rebecca Lubin

954
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,920
is so nice. Kelly Brandt, she's your aunt. She'll guess that.

955
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:00,159
Fan up, take a play parent, put a diaper on

956
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,000
and yeah yeah. Alicia Ascalante from the city, but I

957
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:06,920
want today, Leslie with the coughing. Aaron's a dirty Sanchez. Sandra.

958
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,960
It's not easy, but you do it well. Yep. Christy

959
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,559
gets stop and Katie's rolling on e and listen, get

960
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:16,119
a car from Adam track and Adam's got a car.

961
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,280
He can help you. He's my friend. If anybody wants

962
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,679
to know, do you really know him? Yes? For twenty

963
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,280
years and I trust him. I trust him too, I

964
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,039
love him. Yeah, so great. He's really just going to

965
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:31,119
try to help you, Yeah he is. And he's going

966
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:32,880
to get a better price than you can get yourself.

967
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,400
That's all I'm trying to do. All right, Thank you guys,

968
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,960
Thank you for Oh also, if you want to take

969
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,400
my class, my writing class, it starts not this week

970
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,000
that you're that you're listening, not the week coming up.

971
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:49,719
At the next week, July twenty third is a Thursday,

972
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,960
and I have some spots open for people that might

973
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,519
want to try writing nice. Yeah, all right, all right,

974
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:57,519
thanks everybody. You're a parent. Now I don't have it up.

975
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:00,440
It's good I

976
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: That ain't go