Speaker 1: I made a decision.
Speaker 2: Pay sunny Sun on my head a vision.
Speaker 1: It's nice.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to for crying out loud. What's happening?
Speaker 1: It's Friday and we forgot.
Speaker 2: To talk about Taylor Swift's stupid, dumb wedding. Who cares
about it?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, do we care? We don't care, except that
I think it's very interesting that Ryan Reynolds and Blake
Lively were not invited.
Speaker 2: That's the best part. That's the only thing I care about.
Speaker 1: So Cecily and I covered this over on Rose Pricks.
But but to me, that was the that was it,
because building up to this, I feel like Taylor was
being very cryptic about whether or not she and Blake
are on good terms. Right, that's true? Yeah? Right? Didn't
she make it seem like they're fine? Yeah?
Speaker 2: There was rumor is like that they were like talking
behind the scenes and trying to make up, you know,
blah blah blah. I don't know how you come back
from that though, all this shit that Blake put her
through with those text messages, also threatening to release ten
years of text messages if you don't like stand by
her side?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Yeah? But was that proven that.
She said, I'm going to release these that was Taylor
Swiss father that came for and said that they that
that was Yeah, they proved it from the from everything
I've read that it was proven. Yeah. I mean that's
like Trumbulla fotch.
Speaker 2: I mean, live right, like if you got a lot
of nerve, bitch like that. That was crazy. So yeah,
I don't I don't think there was good there's ever gonna.
And also she's supposed to be like the the godmother
of Blake's children and still not like it. So that
means that they are not speaking, they're not talking, they're done.
Speaker 1: No, because you don't really come back from you weren't
invited to my wedding? Right. That's a tough one, right, Yeah,
that's a pretty big fight that, you know what I
mean that you can't just be like, Okay, fine, she's
not my favorite person, but I'm inviting her to the wedding. Right.
Once you do that, you're like, I don't know how
you ever know. I don't know how you would come
back from that. And also there was like the rumors
early on during the whole Baldoni thing that Kelsey what's
his name, her husband Travis, Travis Kelsey, Yeah, unfollowed Ryan
Reynolds on Instagram. Stop following him.
Speaker 2: I think that he probably figured out that Ryan Rayl's
is pretty big douchebag, you know, like kind of probably
this fake guy that they went out to dinner with,
and like, you know, he just like if once you
get his number and you see through him, like you
go like, this guy's a fucking douche Like he's just performative,
you know, and he probably didn't like that. So on
top of everything else, I.
Speaker 1: Just don't know how Blake Lively. I mean, the whole
thing feels very like victimizing herself in the first place,
but then to drag your friend in it and be like,
you're gonna come to my house and gang up on
this guy with me, right. But the only thing that's
confusing is that it did seem like Taylor was on
her side the whole time, and based on some of
her text messages, seemed like Taylor was like, yeah, fuckj
Justin Baldoni, Yeah, called her clown, yeah, all this shit.
So what changed?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that I think what happened was back then,
I think that Taylor Swift was trying to be a
good friend to Blake and believing everything that Blake was saying.
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: There was no proof in any of the text messages
that he sexually harassed her, Like there was nothing like
where Taylor was like, I'm so sorry he made you
feel uncomfortable. It was all like this guy's a clown,
he's a fumbling it. He doesn't know what he's doing.
And tell him, you like my cut of the movie
better than his cut, Right, That's what it was about.
So Taylor's like, hell, yeah, okay, ride or die. But
then what happened was the whole what happened fucking uh.
Speaker 1: Baldoni's lawyer dropped receipts, put out that whole all that website,
and like, here's all the receipts, here's everything in context,
here's what Blake Lively is accusing, and here's what Blake
Lively did videos all the stuff, put it out there,
and I think Taylor Swift was like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Like I was lied to kind of
thing I think she saw. Otherwise, Taylor Swift has stuck.
It's been proven she's stuck up for like Kesha or
some other like friends of hers that were like sexually
harassed and stuff like she stood by those friends. Blake
Lively was really like uncomfortable and sexually harassed on set
by Baldoni.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift would.
Speaker 2: Have stuck by her side, and I think that's what
she was thinking she was doing, but not with the
sexual assault, with the other shit. So I think once
all all the receipts came out, she was like, bitch,
you fucking lied me, like this isn't this is not
what you were telling me is the truth, and now
you made me look like a mean girl, which she did.
She looked like a mean girl in those texts, so
she was like, now, look at you made me look
like an asshole.
Speaker 1: Fuck you.
Speaker 2: You're gonna try and damage my reputation and then come
after me and say I'm gonna release ten if you
don't stand by me, I'm gonna release ten years of
text messages.
Speaker 1: Her father was.
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift was the one that came out and said that,
so you know, and then she fucking failed in the
end anyway, she didn't get shit. And now she's suing
for eight million dollars of legal fees, which is insane.
So that's where she's at. Now she's still like doubling down.
So yeah, she's not invited to the wedding. Boohoo, too bad,
So sad.
Speaker 1: I know, I know what you deserve. But remember when
Taylor Swift came out her last album, she had that
song about I like my friend's canceled. Yeah, everybody thought
that was kind of a veiled homage to Blake Lively,
like I'm on her side, like, go ahead and try
to cancel her, but like, I like that, I like
my you know right, No, I don't think.
Speaker 2: If you're a normal person looking at these receipts, looking
at the whole thing in context, and you're Taylor Swift,
you're like, I feel like I was duped and I
was like taken advantage of by like having me come
there to the penthouse and saying I like the I
like her cut better, Like.
Speaker 1: I feel like she was like she even like.
Speaker 2: Towards the end, there was a text message that said
you feel I feel like Remember that there was a
message that Taylor Swift sent to Blake Lively like I
feel like you're talking to me like like I'm a
like in corporate or whatever. Yeah, and then Blake right
back and like dear customers. You know, yeah, thank you
for your complaint, Like fuck off. So I think Taylor
Swift was like she saw she saw the reality of
what was going on, and she distanced herself.
Speaker 1: But it did seem like from those texts that they
were cool because Taylor kept being like no, no, no, we're good.
We're good. I've just been really busy or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, I feel like she was getting sick and tired
of hearing about Blake about BLOWDONI and not like paying attention.
They're like nurturing their friendship because Blake's always what about
about It's everything about her, So she was getting tired
of it. But that was before anything came out, so
she didn't know at that time of those text messages.
So I think once everything dropped and she saw what
was going on, she was like, fuck this shit, I'm out.
Speaker 1: I don't want anything.
Speaker 2: So she was so quiet about it for a long
with people are like, you know, is she going to
invite her to the super Bowl or not? And she
didn't invite her the super Bowl, so it's like Okay,
She's like saying, I don't want any part of this.
Speaker 1: That's what I think happened imagine your one of your
best friends is Taylor Swift and then they're not your
best friend. I mean, has there been a bigger celebrity
than Taylor Swift. She's I mean, it's a movement, it
is a movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, she helps the economy and shit when she
comes to town.
Speaker 1: I know, it's got to feel so shitty to be like,
oh my god, Taylor Swift fucking hates me. Didn't invite
her to the web. Everybody knows that we were besties,
right and now, literally Taylor Swift did not invite I mean,
imagine the world knowing, Like imagine people in other countries knowing, like, oh,
Blake Lively was not invited to the wedding.
Speaker 2: I know, and it's like there, you know, it is
a headline that she got she got married at Madison
Square Garden and everything, But all the headlines are a
picture of like Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. It's some
like vineyard somewhere five hundred miles away from the wedding.
Speaker 1: Watching their like daughter do horseback riding, right massage, and.
Speaker 2: Her hair is like in a ponytail, Like that's the
that's the photo I see, Like, like Taylor Swift get married.
But then there's a photo of those two like looking
like bums, Like, haha, you weren't invited, too bad.
Speaker 1: No, it's like I wish I knew the inside because
looking on the outside, of course, it's like to me
and to you, Blake Lively sucks, like, that's not a
friend who's going like, well, Taylor Swift was at my house,
so she knows the story and she's going to testify.
On the other hand, Taylor Swift had to know who
Blake Lively was. Blake Lively didn't suddenly become Blake as
a person. According to a lot of things I've read
Blake Lively, this is Blake Lively's m O is to
try to get herself manipulate things so that she gets
a credit for writing a movie right, right, which is
what she did. She tried to and she I think
preyed upon Justin Baldoni to be like, this fucking guy
has no experience. I'm gonna waite, I'm going to walk
in here, I'm going to rewrite this movie. I'm going
to be the hero. And then ain't nobody liked the
rewrite she did.
Speaker 2: Right, and she would have never done that on the
set of you know, a simple favor to that director
or to the Woody Allen. She was never doing with
that to the like she finally got a director of
a franchise that he got under his belt and was like,
holy shit, this guy's a fucking you know, a nobody,
and I have my dragons, my husband, my best friend,
and I'm going to take this fucking the rights away
from this guy. And I'm going to ruin his life,
and I'm going to tell everybody to unfollow him, and
I'm going to put him in the basement of the
premiere the movie, like you know, and then on top
of it, act like a dumb ass like read the
room when she was doing interviews for the movie about
it's a sensitive subject the movie, and she's just like,
you know, how's your baby bump?
Speaker 1: You know, bring your bring your florals, you know.
Speaker 2: With about that one interview where the guy was like,
you know, what, what do you want to say? What
if some fan comes up to you and says, I
was in a you know, ah in a situation, or
I was in a relationship with sexual with you know,
domestic domestic violin And she's like, well, I don't know
what you should I do? Should I give him my
like my social security umber? Should give him my my
three life three sixties? So I got to remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fuck she's gross.
Speaker 2: So she, on top of it, came out to promote
the movie, and she's promoting her Betty booze and her
hair brand and not like getting and her jeans and
like just joking around about it and stuff and acting
like a bitch in in these junkets and then says,
Baldoni's the one that's like smearing her, like really, like
you smeared yourself basically, And by the way, Baldoni is
not gonna smear Blake Lively. If you would act normal
and you would have been. He's not gonna smear you.
He's gonna want you because this is he just did.
This movie made a ton of money. He's got this,
you know, parts rights to the sequel. Why is he
gonna like fucking smear the actress of his movie, Blake Lively?
Speaker 1: Like doesn't That doesn't make any which is why all
of those sexual assault allegations are making her feel uncomfortable.
He was bending over backwards to make her feel comfortable,
to just you know, you could see it in all
their messages, Like when she was like I feel really
fat or whatever, he was like, what, no, yay, so sexy,
you look great? Hey when but he was like, but
I think there was something where he was going to
have to pick her up or something, and he was
just I don't know, because he needed to know what
she weighed. Yeah, and he wanted to know because her trainer,
because his trainer, they were working with him on being
able to like there's a scene where she had he
was going to have to pick her up and he
had some slip discs, like he had some serious back issues.
So the trainer wanted to find out how much like
weighs so that they can whatever figure it out. And
that was that, you know, not like fat.
Speaker 2: She wasn't fat shaming her, you know, it was just
it was just the ridiculous and appalling and Ryan Reynolds
like emails were just the worst too. So he looks
like a jackass. But here's the thing, like.
Speaker 1: Is she going to have a career.
Speaker 2: He I think is going to be fine because people
follow Marvel or don't give a shit about Baldoni and stuff,
like he's going to be I think fine.
Speaker 1: But with her. I don't know, like who wants to
work with that. I don't think any directors that aren't
really strong and experienced are going to want to deal
with her.
Speaker 2: No, now you're but probably like older directors that are
that don't give a shit about that. Maybe like I
don't know, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe has she been in anything since? No? No, yeah,
not that I know of. I mean it's like, I
remember when I first heard about it, and I was
totally on her side, and then it's like you start
learning more and more and more and you're like what, Yeah,
remember when that the footage came out of the it
was like she accused him of trying to kiss her
and doing all this stuff. And then the dailies, yeah,
the dancing, and then those dailies came out. I watched
all of it on YouTube and I was like, wow,
she sucks, right, he did nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said that he, you know, was smelling her
and said you smell so good. That's literally what she
said in her deposition. Yeah, and you go and watch
the video and he's like like on her neck and
she's like you probably can smell my spray tan And
he was like oh, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Smells it smells good like yuky bitch. And she had
said I think this scene would be better like if
they don't kiss, right, and he's like okay. He didn't say, like, well,
let's just try one where we make out, right. He
was like okay. She was like, yeah, it'll be better.
It'll be better just like we'll get close to it.
So he's trying to play it. He did not try
to kiss her. You're watching the Daily's uncut, yes, and
he's just like, like you said, kind of like smelling
her and getting close and like, But because they're supposed
to be playing people who are about to fuck exactly,
who are in love, like falling in love with each other,
So what is he not supposed to like be close
to you, like, I know, what are you doing what?
So he's trying to like kind of snuggle on her,
and she's sort of backing away a little bit, but
he's never pushes her. And then at the end of
the scene he goes they go cut. He says cut
because he's the director, and he's like, Okay, we're good.
Speaker 2: I think we're right right, walks away, And that's why
I think the judge took out when her case was
going to go to trial, took out all the sexual
harassment stuff because the judge. I remember him saying something like, listen,
this is If this was like in a corporate office,
you'd have a different case. But we're doing you're doing
a movie about you know, you guys are in love
and you're there's sex scenes and it's sexy and saucy.
Speaker 1: It's a movie. Like what what is he is? He?
Speaker 2: That's what he's doing. Like he's doing his job by
like going up and down your neck and stuff like that. Right,
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Now where the hell is Xander?
Speaker 1: Okay, so where I last left you and where we
were updating people on Facebook? First of all, everybody needs
to calm down a little bit, like for everybody was
coming for us with the ice cream? Remember that? Oh
yeah apparently, and then I got I got it into
my head. You guys got it into my head. Blame
yourselves for this of going like, maybe that just doesn't
make sense. Maybe they meant ice No, apparently they did
mean ice cream. And Xander was like, it lasted like
a few days in the cooler. It did, and he says,
the only thing is that's weird is that they even
asked me to bring ice cream because they brought so
much ice cream. Oh my god, so yours? Wow, here's
how it went down. Yeah, I found this out later.
Oh and then also somebody that I really like, I
think it was Catherine Keys, was like, did you do
you have the license number of the car that they're driving.
I was like, oh no, new fear level unlocked. Thank you,
thank you, for that. No, I did no due diligence.
I'm lucky that I got the mom's phone number, which
I have not used. Right, So I want to know
why they were at the credit union. I don't think
they were. I think it just maybe they parked, maybe
they got what they pete or something. I don't know.
But then they lost They lost internet shortly after that, okay,
So I was kept checking back and I didn't realize
that it was just stuck, because that's what happens. Yeah, yeah,
that's what happened. So they got there, everything's fine. They
they lost internet early, so I didn't hear from him
for a few days, and that was a little bit
nerve wracking because he left on a Monday, oh, I know, Thursday,
and I updated this on Facebook. Thursday. All of a sudden,
he popped up. He texted us, okay, and he was like, hey,
I just briefly have like internet. And they were at
Big sur State Park, like Fifer State Park. So I
was so excited and I was like, oh my god,
are you having fun? You know? And he's like, it's great,
We're having so much fun. We just drove from our
campsite to this. We're doing this hike. So we couldn't
really talk long, but I was like, oh my god,
are you like tell me everything? He really couldn't talk
that much, but he was like, I'm having such a
good time. I'm taking lots of pictures. Everything's good. That's
good good. So I was like Okay. Then Friday, maybe
Saturday night we realized wen'day do to come home? He's home.
He came home, but when was he do? Oh? So
I thought he was coming home on Monday. So the
whole thing started where he was like, I really want
to go on this camping trip, but we wouldn't come.
I'd miss your birthday. We'd come home the next day.
And I was like, that's fine, we'll go out like
the next night. He was actually always coming home Sunday,
but just like late in the day. Okay. So Saturday
we realized that he had a satellite. Even though it
said so it was the same thing as sunny Yeah.
So even though it said that his phone was off
or he was out of range, he was able to text,
and it just said it was hitting.
Speaker 2: Us and is using satellite? Yeah yeah, And then it's
like a little like icon of a satellite. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So he was talking to John and said that he
was coming home the next day because yesterday, which was
we're recording on a Monday, so that was on Sunday.
So then of course I watched him. As soon as
he came into Range on Sunday, I could see that
he was where he was, and then I watched him
and he had a great time. Oh and then John
was like okay. I kept going like, so was it
really fun? Like do you wish you were doing it
for another week? Or are you ready to come home?
And he was like no, bro, I'm ready to be home. Yeah.
And then John was like, so are you reconsidering like
going to UC Santa Cruz And he was like, no,
absolutely not, but I had an epic time. Oh. I guess,
as we talked about on Paige Treon, that's my positive kid.
That's just like camping. Sure, let's do it. He said that.
He said they did all these really hard hikes because
they're a very outdoorsy family, so it was it was
the mom It's turned out that they took two cars,
and he said they had many coolers. So what I
was imagining was, oh, they have one cooler and now
they're like, does anyone have a cooler? It's like, you
people have been camping before, where's your cooler? Well, I
guess they had a lot of gear. So the mom
drove a pickup truck and had two of the kids
in her car. So it was it was okay, Xander's
friend Izzy and her two brothers. The younger brother brought
a friend and Xander was like, they're being friends with
the older daughter in the middle son. So it was one, two, three, four,
five kids. Five kids went adults, so not as many
original one adult, one adult. The mom, oh single mom. Okay,
so but into camping. Wow, yeah, Sonny would love that mother.
Oh my god. So he was like, they were putting
me on these hikes that were like very the most difficult,
and they were like, well, you'll be fine, and he's
like yeah, but he's like I like that. Yeah, I
like that. I like a challenge, right right right, he goes.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, wow, what about any bears?
Speaker 1: No bears? He said they encountered a lot of skunks.
Ooh interesting, they were near the water. But he said
at one point the mom kept saying there was a
special tent that was sealed with the rest of their
food in it, and one night the younger kids left
it and they didn't secure the tent and some raccoons
got in there and ate their food.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, So did she make a tent? So
he slept in a tent.
Speaker 1: So the older daughter, the three of the kids slept
in one tent, the mom slept in her own tent,
and then the two younger boys slept in a tent. Wow,
three tents. And they all were together the whole time, like,
because I was like, did you ever split off? Did
they ever? And he was like, no, we pretty much everywhere.
I'll probably like this together. Yeah, And they all went
on all the hikes and they did everything together. But
he took so many pictures that looked really beautiful. Yeah,
and it was like not like I was at his age.
He was like, oh my god, this one was my
favorite because it was so beautiful. Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: Like Sonny too, when he brings back like look how
beautiful this waterfall is.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I know, like you don't have to
go camping that you could just look at pictures and
like let's go on YouTube. Yeah right, yeah dude. Yeah,
But he loved IDI had so much fun. That's great.
We're just I just not a big hiking person. No.
Speaker 2: Same like, I don't think any of my friends are
hikers either, now that I think about it. Suzanne, No,
Melissa no, like no, No, nobody really likes to hike.
Speaker 1: I like nature, I really do. Like I do like
being out. Yeah, I have memory. I have some good
memories of camping as a kid, but I don't like
the getting there or the packing or any of that
part setting up. Yeah, and probably once you're there and
you're like, you do your one hike and you're like,
oh my god, it's so beautiful, then I'd be like,
now I want to go home and watch not But
then it's you're like, oh, buckle up, yes we're not
coming home for a week. Now, be over it right away. Yeah,
we would go.
Speaker 2: It was great when we went camping before we got married.
We would go camping with everybody like Tony Barbieri and
his wife and sal Melissa and Jimmy and Jean, like
we would all go camping for Fourth of July and
we always would leave a day or two earlier, like
Adam and be like, all right, I'm done with this.
They want to stay another day. I'm like, I don't
want to stay, and he's like, a let's go, and
we would just do like we would leave early in
the morning before ah the Corolla's left, not saying goodbye,
but we would do that. We would go camping like
intents or in cabins. Because Tony Barbieria and I have
the same birthday. Oh you do on the same day. Yeah,
so every August, and it's always by Labor Day weekend,
it's at the end of August, so we would everybody
would go camping together and then they would celebrate a
birth like our birthdays.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we did it, like three years
in a row, which was crazy, but not when.
Speaker 1: I was a kid, not really. I just went with
the school right and then I never really took the
kids camping.
Speaker 2: They never really wanted to. They they did with their
friends a couple times, but that was about it.
Speaker 1: You know, Listen, it just seems like some I'm like why, Well,
as you know, Sadie would has no interest in going camping,
and anytime I would even offer anything sort of adventurous,
my kids are like me a lot of the time.
I mean, yeah, I mean, like, I think Xander would
have been up for stuff, but I think LB would
have been like huh and say no, so then I
have to drag them. I also remember when my kids
were a little younger, everything was a big production, a
big shaw because they got carsick, even up through even recently,
Xander said he felt carsick coming home from the trip.
So you know the time I surprised them and took
them to Lego Land, that was like a huge ordeal. Yes, yeah,
I know, yeah, yeah, what there was the kid?
Speaker 2: Didn't you take them to Gray's Lodge, the Groves Wolf Lodge?
Speaker 1: Yeah, great wolf Lodge, But that's not I've never went there.
But that's not camping, that's that's like a hotel. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Natalia has been at her boyfriend's now for like over
a week at his family's house in Lake Tahoe, and
they have a boat. So I'm getting videos and stuff
of her wakeboarding. Now she's like doing wakeboarding. She's like
tried very hard to do it. She couldn't get up,
she couldn't get up. Finally she got up. So now
she's like sending me she makes it look easy. I'm
just watching her. I'm like, that's so cool. So she's
having a good old time. But they're not camping, but
like they're on the lake, which is nice. You know,
it's fun. I'm going on the lake in two weeks, yay,
two weeks, three weeks, Yeah, to Glenn's house in Parker,
which is fun. Like all of our friends are going
to go again. And he's got a boat.
Speaker 1: It's that stuff. I like. Same, I like being on
the boat on the river whatever. That that's fun. I
love water stuff all me too, going out on boats.
The best time I ever had was water skiing. Yeah,
I got up. Same, Yeah, maybe i'll water ski this time.
I only did it once, and it was when I
was a camp counselor for a YMCA camp. And you
did it and you got up. Yeah. I was thirty
and I've told you this story before. My friend was like,
it was a volunteer thing. I volunteered to be a
camp counselor. I was on the older side. It was
super fun. And remember I was like, I want the
older girls. I want like people I can relate to. Yeah,
you want like young girl. I don't want to be
teaching like elementary school. I want like So I got
the thirteen year olds. There were all like eye rolling,
sneaking off to smoke pot. You know. We were coming
up with a you had to do a sket like
not a skit, but like you know, like a skit
like this song so ours was to you can ring
my bell, you can ring mob ring mother. Yeah, I'm
glad you're home and a pood away the dishes. Anyway,
we found a way to make it kind of like inappropriate.
Speaker 2: Right now, of course, yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the cool thing about that was I got
to do all this stuff that the campers did right right.
I learned how to water ski. It was the best time. Yeah,
but I'm just not motivated enough to figure out like
how to do that right, Like do they have like
could you go to like Big Bear Lake and then
sign up for waters? I mean, how do you even
do it?
Speaker 2: I think you got to go in someone's boat, yes,
Because when we were teenagers, our friend Scott had a
boat and we would go all the time to like
Lake have Asu, all these different places.
Speaker 1: God, there was.
Speaker 2: One like Millerton which was so far away anyway, and
he would we would get in the back of his
boat and everybody knew how to water ski because they
all did it when they were young. But of course
I didn't do it. So I was like sixteen and I.
Speaker 1: Learned and I was like, so when I got up,
I was like, oh my god, I'm water skiing like
it was great. You know, it's fun. It's fun. Yeah,
So that's the way to do it. I mean, I've
never even been ziplining. I'm still, oh my god, you
have to go ziplining. I know you should, like when
you get older, just everything seems hard, like you're like, okay,
but then what do we do with the dog? And
I heard about this place. Oh oh, I know what
I wanted to tell you about too, And then we
have some other topics, but I just wanted to tell
you that. So for Fourth of July, I was invited
to this barbecue. But we've never had Bob over a
Fourth of July, and Bob is Bob is very scared
of stuff. And I really do think because when we
got him and we took him to the vet and
they found all these scabs all over his face. And
I told you, the vet was like, this dog has
been attacked by their dogs. It's not like a skin
infection because it wasn't anywhere else on his body, and
she's like, that's where they start biting their face, you know.
So he's scared of other dogs. He gets over it
if he gets introduced to them. He's not at all
aggressive with anybody else, so he doesn't growl, just get scared.
He tucks his tail between his lips and he like
backs away and he you know, he's being assaulted in
some way. So I was like, and he's scared of
loud noises. So I was like, I don't know how
the fourth is going to go for this dog. So
I stayed home with him on the third. The night before,
I took him for a walk with my neighbor Mitch,
and these fucking assholes in our neighborhood were like redted
park lighting off fireworks and he freaked the fuck out,
hated it was like, and then scared. The next night,
which was last night, yeah, or the night before, I
can't remember. I think it might have been on the fourth,
and there were the people weren't lighting them off near
our house at the time. It was earlier. He was
like shell shock from the night before. He wouldn't walk,
he wouldn't like, he just kept stopping and like looking
around like kind of freezing in places. He was like traumatized.
So I gave him a Trosa doone wow drugged him
up and uh, and I gave him one. So I
gave him one when we got home on July third,
because he was so upset and pacing and when I
went to take a shower, he like was sleeping it.
He went under my desk. Oh mellowed him out and
he went to sleep. But then on the fourth I
didn't medicate him. But then last night I had to
give him a pill again because we went out and
there was no fireworks and he was still scared, scared.
He wouldn't walk. He was yeah, oh no. Anyway, My
point is, I guess I have a slightly high needs dog. Yeah,
And now I just have to make sure I worry
about like going out of town and leaving him somewhere
right right. I don't know if he'll hey, if it'll
be like a little bit traumatizing to just be like,
you know what I mean, he's not going to understand
that he's boarding unless and the thing would mitigate that
would be if it's really fun and there's this place
called like I want to say. It's called Paradise something.
Have you heard of this? Yeah, I think I'm Sally. Yeah,
and it's all these little like swim and they and
the dogs love it. And one of my neighbors was like,
her dog is a little bit like Bob, but when
he goes to that place, he loves it so much.
But so I might go and check them out, see
if I can bring Bob there for the day.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I was going to say, see if you
can do a day day thing. Yeah, yeah, that would
be good because then maybe if he if he socializes
with these other dogs and stuff and he gets used
to being around others, I.
Speaker 1: Have to see if he will socialize with other dogs. Right,
you should test it out. But let's talk about hero bread,
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We talked last week about the fact that Elbe is
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We've gotten I've gotten her the bagels before that she
loves and the noodles that they sent she loves. So
it's really delicious. It's really good, yeah, really good.
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fcol Hey. So yeah, so Xander, Oh that's great. So
the I texted you, Yes, I want to hear about
We have two quick things. One is I texted you
this documentary that you said you already watched on Hulu
called Little Miss Innocent.
Speaker 2: It's really good. I watched it a long time ago,
probably over a year ago.
Speaker 1: Now I knew the story from hearing it from an
old date line, right right, But this was so different
because right from the beginning when you watch the dateline,
it's way more of a who done it? And then
you find out at the end that it was the
so like, I don't think this is like a spoiler
alert because this documentary opens with this girls in jail. Yeah,
so that there's a family, the mom, and she's like
a chiropractor, right right, She's she has her own clinic.
She has her own clinic. She's married to a guy,
and she has a son, and the son had a girlfriend,
and the girlfriend worked at the place, right.
Speaker 2: It was like a kind of family business, right what
everybody didn't So it's just her that work there.
Speaker 1: No, I think the son and the and the son's
girlfriend both worked there. Yeah, okay, yeah, so the son
and this girl and the mom was very respected, right now.
Everybody everybody loved her, yeah, helf conscious, always having her smoothies, right, yeah,
very beloved. And the son and his girlfriend had a
super toxic relationship and he would leave her messages and
stuff and just be like I'm just really like, what
are you doing to me? Like it was weird, Like
he was weird. Uh huh. So and she comes across
when she's so she's interviewed from the beginning, and she's like,
I did not do this, like and basically kind of
blaming the son. So what happened? Who she do what
do what? Oh? So the woman, the the woman the
chiropractor gets killed and Culture Scene find out she gets drugged. Okay,
so she they find her dead. She's really sick and
she thinks she has food poisoning or something. And she's
like driving home and she's on the phone with her
husband and she's like, oh my god, Oh my god,
that's right, that's sick. And then they send her to
the emergency room and then her organs start failing and
then she dies, right, and everybody's like, what the fuck?
What happened? What happened? Yeah, they can't find anything wrong,
but then they do like a toxicology, they look for poison,
and they do find this drug called Culture scene.
Speaker 2: Right, I remember vividly a picture of it, like in
the truck on the floor.
Speaker 1: Yes, because okay, it's so crazy, so and I don't
want to give everything away. But the girl girlfriend who's
who from the beginning of this documentary is in jail
doing her interview from jail, and like, this is so crazy.
I did not do it. But somebody writes anonymous letter
to the police and says, if you want to know,
like the culture scene where the Culture Scene came from.
Look in his I forgot the guy's name. Let's call
him Dan. Looking Dan's on the passenger side of Dan's truck.
So the persons are like, holy shit, yes, her son.
They all go and they get that, they get the
truck and they find the culture scene and he's like, dude,
I do not what the fuck. I don't know where
that came from. Right, But it is a little bit
like you do go back and forth. So they's kind
of the sun is sort of an unreliable narrator, Like
he's weird, and he's a really bad alcoholic, and it
does seem like he might have been kind of abusive.
Speaker 2: And the girlfriend though she looks like prim and proper,
doesn't she like, she looks super sweet and innocent, like
you would never ever. People liked her, that the mother
in law liked her. Everybody liked her, and.
Speaker 1: That's why they called her little miss Innocent, right, But
she so yeah, and she said, so she accused the son,
her boyfriend, of like raping her, remember that? And he
but he's like, and she's like, well, you were just drunk,
you were blacked out, you don't remember. He's like, I
didn't do I don't remember that, like I was, and
she's like, yeah, but you did, and it turned it
turns out, well you got to watch it, but did
you think it was so good? And go back when
you're watching it, go yes, yes, Oh my god, I'm
not sure what I believe. Yeah, maybe, and it's going
to be really obvious, but the whole but I think
it's a couple episodes. There is like three year couples.
Uh yeah, yeah, it gets three episodes and it's on Hulu. Yes,
but you will go back and forth going oh wait,
well yeah, because you're like this, she doesn't seem like
she why would you what's her motive? Like why would
she kill the mother? Like you find out Yeah, you're like,
you know who has a motive? Is the sun? Is
the sun? Right? So you're thinking like no, like they
he like somehow and also the husband though okay, forgot
about the husband. Yeah he was suspect. Suspect too. I
mean you're gonna be like, how are they going to
land on this person? And do they other? Right person? Right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Until the end. It's good. It's really I remember.
Yeah I might have talked about it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I watched it like I want to say, like over
a year ago. It's a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like you told me about it though. Yeah,
maybe I forget. Yeah, you were holding out on me.
I know. I stayed home on the fourth of July.
The entire day. I laid in bed and like, watch TV.
What did you watch? What did you watch? I don't.
I couldn't even tell you. I know, I just watched
different Hulu documentaries. I just kept going back and forth
on stuff. Yeah, I also re listened due to my memory.
It is the greatest gift because I've told you that
the Heaven's Gate podcast, oh, the greatest podcast. I literally
started that at the beginning, didn't and was loving it
all over again. I've watched the documentary. I've listened to
Heaven's Gate the podcast, yees, probably seven times, all right, right, right,
it's the gift that keeps on giving. YEP. I have
the same thing with Locked Up Abroad.
Speaker 2: I've been watching that like at night, you know, I
need something to like fall asleep to, So I'm like,
just watch Locked Up Abroad, like it's all new to me.
I know I've seen all these before. There are some
new ones though that I've been that have been inserted
there that I've never seen, Like, there's somewhere there's people
that go and infiltrate the cartel, and that's not Locked
Up Abroad. That's them talking about infiltrating. You know, there
is some of those stories. But I love it. It's
so good. Locked Up Abroad never gets old for me.
Speaker 1: So they've made the podcast based on the show, right,
which is really good, but there's only like eighteen episodes
or something.
Speaker 2: Now I go to Apple TV and they're all there,
like seven or eight seasons.
Speaker 1: Oh, because then there's the lot.
Speaker 2: There's the ones that are smuggling drugs, but then there's
also ones where people were like, you know, doing like
a humanitarian trip you know, to like some of these
war torn countries, and then they get kidnapped and held
for ransom and they're there for years and you're they're
telling their story. So it's like, wow, it's all new.
I've i han't seen it in all years.
Speaker 1: So good. Yeah, And also just can you update me
it's going on with the Karen Reid the Michael Proctor thing.
So the Michael there's an update.
Speaker 2: So Michael Proctor who was the detective in charge of
Karen Reid's case. When we talked last, I told you
all about his horrible text messages to fellow cops. Very racist,
very misogynist, like anybody is a target, everybody like women,
you know, minorities, everything. Horrible guy even talked about planting evidence.
Sound like maybe one to plant some tail light too
while he's at it, you know, talked about planting evidence.
So his life, like his wife left him. Now he's
got to get deposed by Alan Jackson, who's Karen Reid's
fucking awesome lawyer, and he's like, give me a piece
of him, Like he wants to depose this proctor guy.
So he tried to get out of his deposition. He's
saying that he is going to be His lawyers in
court said he's going to be gone for thirty days
and he can't sit for a deposition. So basically people
are like, oh, he's like going to his wife left him.
Everybody knows what a piece of shit he is. He's ashamed,
so he's going like some rehab in Florida. That's so okay.
So the judge was like, okay, fuck that, We're gonna
still see I don't care we're gonna still see he's
got to sit for deposition. So he had one day
of deposition like a week ago, and reportedly Turtle Boy
reported that somebody reported to him that he was seen
outside of the deposition having like a pan attack.
Speaker 1: I'll be right.
Speaker 2: So then he went went back in, finished his one
day deposition, had to sit for a second day. But
then the judge got word that somehow it was leaked
on Twitter that somebody on Twitter leaked that his medical
his medical information, saying that it was leaked on Twitter
at this time, at two o'clock this period, you know whatever,
somebody put on Twitter that Michael Proctor is in a
rehab in Florida, and that's what you know. And so
the judge got pissed. The judge called last week on
the Friday before fourth of July, called thirty four attorneys
that are all part of this case, had them fly
into Massachusetts. Alan Jackson at a fly from LA They
were all there in person. He gave this, I watched
Melanie little dude, because she's a lawyer. I watched her
recover it like she was there alive watching him breaking
it down. He basically said somebody he had all the
lawyers sign an affidavit that they did not leak that information,
which they didn't, and he basically read them the Riot
Act and said if if any more information gets leaked about.
First of all, he was saying, this case is becoming
a spectacle. There's too much interest, and people are like,
there's interest in it because yeah, there's corruption going on
in Massachusetts, like all the way to the top, Like
there's corruption and they're trying to expose it. And the
judge is like, too much social media interest in this case,
and blah blah blah, and if anything else, he goes
and I'm going to stay, which means he's going to
stay Michael Procter's deposition for now. He's not allowed to
be deposed anymore at this point in time, and he
might keep it a stay for good if anything else
gets leaked. And he read them meaning like they can't
fucking depose Michael Proctor anymore, Like why why are they
protecting this piece?
Speaker 1: Why is this judge protecting this piece of shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, it turned out, by the way Tortal
Boy looked into it. Yeah, so he read the Riot
Act for like ten minutes, said Happy fourth of July goodbye,
and then Alan Jackson stood up and was like, we're
not allowed to be heard, and the judge walked off
and that was that.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 2: That was on the right before the fourth of July,
turtle Boy found out this ex person on x on
Twitter that posted this was him.
Speaker 1: He posted something.
Speaker 2: He said, he got he got he got an, he
got a he got a message from somebody that said
that Michael Proctor's ex wife is telling people at her
work that he's going to rehab in Florida. So Turtle
Boy two days before this thing got leaked, so it
wasn't a leaked the judge was wrong.
Speaker 1: The judge was wrong.
Speaker 2: Two days before it came out in court, turtle Boy says,
Michael Proctor's ex wife says he's in Florida in a rehab.
So he posted that and it was like posted. The
judge says it was a post at like ten twenty
six am, the ex post came out and Turtle Boy said,
I posted something that day, but it was at two
twenty six pm. And somebody said, when you take a screenshot,
if you don't have Twitter and you send that picture
to the judge, it's gonna it's gonna change the time,
like they tested it. So it changed the time to
ten twenty six. So he's seen this tweet. He got
it all wrong, Like Turtle Boy just just reported what
he got two days before. So the judge is fucked.
Everybody's figured out now that the judge was wrong. So
now that's where we're at, like we don't know. Wow,
but it's like why are they protected? You could get
away with it.
Speaker 1: He could get away with it.
Speaker 2: And like and now because the judge said that, don't
you people are saying, like, fucking Procter. Now it's gonna
leak more, Like he's gonna leak his own a medical
so that he can get protected by this judge. Like
he now he's got the power to like, hey, have
a family member leak more information about his shit to
piss off the judge, and the judge could be like Okay,
no more, no more Procter uh deposition for you guys,
Like wow, Like he could get away with it like that.
Speaker 1: Wow. So that's where we're at now. Crazy. Yeah, keep
an eye on this one. I know it's really good
for sure, I will, I will, Yeah, keep me up
to date. Yeah, Well this was super fun. Yeah, let's
say hi to our friends. We got Dick, who's frolicking,
Nikki call your girl, come on. Elizabeth Williamson has so
many kids. She keeps having them, she keeps having him.
Speaker 2: But you know rocked and and uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Polly, we love your pancakes. Valerie, Bubba Fenwick.
Speaker 2: It's out of the park, Katerina, girl, check that thing already.
Speaker 1: It's gonna fall out or be pulled out. Yeah, Bobby
and Missy still at the firework Daryl trying to sell
fireworks and flip flops. Yep, Sean Fosh Okay, Rebecca Lubin
is so nice. Kelly Brandt, she's your aunt. She'll guess that.
Fan up, take a play parent, put a diaper on
and yeah yeah. Alicia Ascalante from the city, but I
want today, Leslie with the coughing. Aaron's a dirty Sanchez. Sandra.
It's not easy, but you do it well. Yep. Christy
gets stop and Katie's rolling on e and listen, get
a car from Adam track and Adam's got a car.
He can help you. He's my friend. If anybody wants
to know, do you really know him? Yes? For twenty
years and I trust him. I trust him too, I
love him. Yeah, so great. He's really just going to
try to help you, Yeah he is. And he's going
to get a better price than you can get yourself.
That's all I'm trying to do. All right, Thank you guys,
Thank you for Oh also, if you want to take
my class, my writing class, it starts not this week
that you're that you're listening, not the week coming up.
At the next week, July twenty third is a Thursday,
and I have some spots open for people that might
want to try writing nice. Yeah, all right, all right,
thanks everybody. You're a parent. Now I don't have it up.
It's good I
Speaker 2: That ain't go