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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Speaker 2: We're going to discuss today Ozzy Osbourne's nineteen ninety one

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album No More Tears. We started with his biography. If

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you didn't catch that, and go back last week and

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check that out before you jump in with us today.

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Speaker 2: Have its fantastic. So this is great stuff. Yeah, okay,

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so we're going to talk about No More Tears today.

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I've got a couple of bits of information, sort of

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an intro to the album before we jump in track

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by track, Like you said previously. This album was released

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September seventeenth, nineteen ninety one. That was the same day

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the Guns N' Roses released their two albums, Use Your

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Illusion one and two.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: It's the same month that read Hou Chili Pepper's release

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Blood Sugar Sex Magic, and the same month that Nirvana

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week same week yep that Nirvana released Nevermind. Is huge,

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huge time for music in America.

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Speaker 1: This was the first and only Ozzy Osbourne album that

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I ever purchased. I didn't own the rest of them.

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I didn't really even get into some of that, some

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of the seventies stuff until later on.

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Speaker 3: It may have been Beavis and butt Head.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, they had an episode where they joked about him

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biting the head off of a live cow, which one

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of my friends said, did he really? And we lost

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our minds. That friend, you know, that friend that says that,

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of course, I'm not a diehard Ozzie fan. I haven't

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gone back and gotten those other albums to check them

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all out. I'm the radio friendly Ozzy guy.

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Speaker 2: Me too, Me too. So this is his sixth solo album, Yep,

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No More Tears, released September seventeenth, ninety one. This is

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his first album that he was sober. This album, if

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you'll notice just the themes in general, it's more personal.

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It's more you can feel bits of regret but hopefulness.

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So it's a little different than diary for Madman, for instance.

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This is definitely a more personal Ozzie. You have help

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from outside composers. Let me Killmeister from Motorhead wrote four

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of the tracks on this album. Wow, the personnel on

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this album, I find this interesting. Okay, you've got Ozzy

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on lead vocals, You've got Zach Wilde on guitars. You've

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got Randy Castillo, who was lead of Ford's drummer before

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he jumped on with Ozzy, and actually he was Tommy

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this guy named Bob Daisley who was with them for

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of the album, although he did lay down the tracks.

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The guy that in the video was Mike Ainez and

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he joined Alison Chains full time after the album. So

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it's kind of an interesting cast of characters on this album.

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I think it's interesting. When they were asking him initially,

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they're like, oh, so you got a new album out

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and you're newly sober. Yes I am, and yes, yes

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I am right. They say, well, what do you think

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is it good? And he's like, I have no idea.

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I am just now like a newborn babe trying to

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figure out what's good and what's not and what's real

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and what's not right. He was so drugged out that

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when he was finally sober, I don't know if it's

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any good or not. We'll see. So the first song

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on the album is a song called Mister Tinkertrein.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the song starts off and it's got this kind

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of music box sound to it, and it's got the

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children playing in the background, and it's real creepy it

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is creepy, and then there's a video for it, and

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the video I don't know that I've ever seen it

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before we started researching these.

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Speaker 3: Albums, but I'm watching.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think that's the movie that Jason and

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I have just started talking about. And sure enough, it

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is the movie M by Fritz Lang from back in

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nineteen thirty one, which, if things go according to plan,

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we will be comparing to Silence of the Lambs in October.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But it's a story of a child serial murderer, which

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is what our song mister Tinkertrain.

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Speaker 3: Is about as well.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I actually watched the first half of it this morning

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of M of M. Yes, I watched the first half

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of M with my eighteen year old daughter, who doesn't

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get interested in ao lot of movies. But she was like,

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I really, she had to go to work. It's like,

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I really want to watch the rest of this. We

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need to watch the song.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, interesting, okay, cool. So yeah, this song

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the lyrics talk about a serial murderer who is enticing

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young children with sweets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and toys you've never seen. I'm pretty sure it's

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a sexuals Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then the it come in full blast after this,

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after the little intro with these hard drums, guitars, bass,

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and then this anthem pulsing boom boom.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm listening to this and I was talking to someone.

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I'm like, man, that drum sounds so good, Like what's

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going on there? And he said it's it's the kick

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drum and the snare at the same time. And so

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it's that fist pounding rock. It blew me away. I

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love it, pounding rock song. The one thing that's really

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curious about this song is it has this wonderful, gorgeous

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synth breakdown in the middle of the song and it softens.

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Speaker 4: It's really soft.

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Speaker 3: It's very Beatles esque.

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Speaker 2: And it's like beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so I just when I heard that, I'm like, man,

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this song is me It's just unexpected turn. And so

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although the lyrics are.

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Speaker 1: A little bit strange, well scary songs or scary scary

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songs yep.

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Speaker 3: Dance with the world with the Girl that brought Yet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what mister Tinkertrain is, but to me,

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I keep thinking of tinker toys. The weird thing also

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about this song yeah, is it stops on a dime?

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And when I mean stops on a dime, it just

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full on and that's it done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have a fade out, which I love.

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I fade outs for every single song growing up, and

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I got tired of fight out fade outs.

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Speaker 3: I want to hear the end of the song.

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Speaker 5: Yep, finish it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, beautiful song, pounding rocker. Love it all right. So

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the next song is called I Don't Want to Change

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the World.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: This is the first song co written by Lemmy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It came out in nineteen ninety three on the Live

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and Loud album and that version won the Grammy for

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Best Metal Performance.

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Speaker 2: This song won a Grammy. Yeah, this is a great song.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's another I mean, it's another awesome rock kicking butt.

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But unlike mister tinker Train, he's not referring to demons

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or insanity or any of the other stuff that he

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had made his career on up to this point.

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Speaker 3: This is about life.

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Speaker 4: I know, you ad.

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Speaker 1: This is about I'm just trying to be me and

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I'm not trying to make a big show or something.

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Speaker 3: I just want to get on with my life.

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Speaker 2: Another song that I'm just loving right out of the

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gate two for two so far.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, love it all right.

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Speaker 2: The next song I'm dying to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: The third song on the album is called Mama I'm

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Coming Home.

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Speaker 1: So this might be the reason that I bought the

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album was to learn how to play this intro guitar piece.

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And this is one of a few rock ballads on

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this album, and I love it.

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Speaker 2: This song was released March twelfth of ninety two, each

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number twenty eight on the Hot one hundred. This is

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a rare top forty hit for Rozzie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In fact, this song and Close My Eyes Forever are

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his only two top forty hits. Wow, it's gorgeous. This

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is not a crazy psychopathic rocker. This is a beautiful ballad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is This is a love letter to Sharon.

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So he'd had this melody in his head for a

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while and it was Zach Wilde that kind of helped

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him bring it to fruition.

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Speaker 3: And the Mama I'm Coming Home would be what he would.

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Speaker 1: Say to Sharon at the last show at the tour,

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you know, finally done, I'm coming home to see you.

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And Lemmy is the one that the guy from Motorhead

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is the one that ended up writing the lyrics for

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the song, and he did it in just, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: A couple hours.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I always thought it was weird that Mama is Sharon, Like,

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that's him referring to.

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Speaker 3: His wife, right.

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Speaker 2: I always thought that was weird as a single person

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until I had kids. Yeah, right, And so you refer

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to your wife a lot of times as mom, you know,

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talking to the kids. Hey, go tell mom it's time

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for us to go to dinner or whatever, And so

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it doesn't seem as weird to me anymore. But yeah,

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that's his nickname for her, And in fact, he has

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used that nickname for her in Flying High Again, which

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we talked about off Diary of a Madman, and then

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in his other song running out of Time, which is

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off his two thousand and one album, Zach Wild talks

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about the guitar solo on this It says so easy

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that he can do it in his sleep. But that's

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not necessarily a bad thing. He thinks it's pretty cool.

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It's just so catchy and just flows right out of it.

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Speaker 3: It is definitely catchy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, after Lemme wrote the lyrics, Ozzie said,

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he looked at him and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, he wrote this and how long?

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Speaker 1: And they're not good lyrics, they're amazing lyrics.

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Speaker 2: F word's just roll right out of Ozzie all the time.

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This is kind of a love learn to Sharon for

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her helping him get so much. Yeah, the cool thing

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I learned when I researched this song. There are two

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versions of this video, this music video. Okay, keep in

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mind in the early nineties, man, MTV is still showing

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a lot of music videos, still.

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Speaker 3: Very popular, good old days.

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Speaker 2: Let's hold your hand over your heart first. So the

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first video I saw, but as soon as it was

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put up yesterday, is really weird for a song that's

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nearly thirty years old. I saw it, I tried to

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send it to you, I couldn't and then I go

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back and look today, I can't find it.

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Speaker 1: There's some video out there that Ozzie didn't like, that

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didn't make it out that you got to see and

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I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's a side scroll video. Okay, picture with

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me light blue background. It reminds me of like the

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Sewing of Seeds of Love video or maybe Raspberry Beret

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colorful a right and it's scrolling sideways. Think Defender Right

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Defender the video game. And it's Ozzie, it's Zach, it's

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the drummer. It's interesting little animations. It doesn't fit the

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tone of the song though, right. The new video with

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those sort of brown cepia tones gives the beauty and

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the respect that this song deserves instead of something Hoki

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and cartoony.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who directed the video? No, Oh, I'm

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gonna blow your mind? Tell me so? He had?

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Speaker 1: Is it Russell McKay No, He had just directed a

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video for another band who had had an album released

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the same week. The band picked him as a director

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because he had the worst demo, Fido, and they wanted

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it to look not corporate. It was Sam Bayer, who

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directed nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit video who directed Ozzie's Mama,

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I'm Coming Home.

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Speaker 2: When you say that, it totally makes sense. The brown,

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grainy cpia tones that blow your mind, that blew my mind.

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Great job, my mom, I'm coming home. Wonderful song.

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Speaker 3: I hay to end it.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful song all right. The next song is called Desire.

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Speaker 3: Just reminds me of something.

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Speaker 1: Wait till I tell you okay, all right, yeah, this

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is kicking butt already.

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Speaker 2: This is a driving rock song, right yeah, loving it,

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loving it? Okay. The beginning of this song.

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Speaker 3: Reminds me of what what is it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's ringing a bell in your head?

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Speaker 3: Yes, the d.

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Speaker 2: Okay. It's either it's either another thing coming by Judas Priest.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, okay, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: See where I'm coming from a US or it's Wizards

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in Winter by the Trans Siberian Orchestra. It's that, it's

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the Christmas Light song.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, let me play that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not kidding and I'm not making a joke. This

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is what that reminds me of. Are you with me

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on that?

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Speaker 1: Yep? It is, You're right, it is. That's what it's from.

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I was not a big Judas Priest fan, but I

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guarantee we listened to that every single Christmas. Every Christmas,

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Downs Family Farm Baby.

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Speaker 2: Shout out, Downs Family Farm. This song was played almost

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every show for the No More Tours tour Pump and Rocker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he's, of course referring to Crazy Train

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at the end of the lyrics. This is nothing has changed.

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So even though he's sober, he's still got the desires,

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but he's not going after those. But he's still out

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there rocking.

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Speaker 5: Nothing's changing, love it all right.

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Speaker 2: Moving on. This song is called No More Tears. This

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is the title track of the album No More Tears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this song starts out with layers, which you

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know I love, yes, But apparently that's how the song

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came into existence. You know you mentioned that Mike Inez

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from Alison Chains was with them.

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Speaker 3: He's part of this song.

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Speaker 1: He just started thumping that bass that Interne and internear

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and then and Castillo comes in and on the drums.

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So then Johnson Claire comes in with that those keyboards

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that are mystical and magical, and it is awesome. But

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as mystical and magical as it is, Ozzie still delivers

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those tough, like gritty, dark lyrics.

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Speaker 2: It's yes, Ozzy calls this song a gift from God,

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right and to hear the Prince of Darkness himself say that,

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it's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 3: Right right? So where did it come from?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So the title of the song No More Tears.

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I got this story. It's gonna blow you away.

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Speaker 6: Right, So Ozzie is taking a bath, right, Oh my gosh,

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think about there.

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Speaker 2: And it's probably, you know, a very benign bubble bath, right.

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So he's in the bathtub and he looks over and

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of course he's got children in the house, and he

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looks over and he sees the Johnson and Johnson shampoo

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bottle that says no more tears, that blew me away.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's hysterical. That is hysterical. I'm surprised

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Johnson and Johnson let him get away.

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Speaker 2: Johnson and Johnson needs to use this song for commercials.

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Speaker 1: So this song, interestingly, this so I'm listening to this song,

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and this song has a similarity to a song off

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of the User Illusions albums.

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Speaker 3: There's a comedy.

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Speaker 1: Bit by John mulaney called the Salt and Pepper Diner.

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John and his buddy play What's Up Pussycat on the

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jukebox twenty seven times? Okay, and he says at the beginning,

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he's like, and so you're listening and the second time

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it comes on, you're thinking to yourself, Wow, they just

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played What's Up pussy Cat? Two times? Or you're thinking, wow,

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what's up pussy Cats? A lot longer than I thought

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it was. And it just kind of has a dip

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in the middle, you know, like November Rain where you're like, oh,

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November Rain's.

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Speaker 2: Over, No, it's not no, just getting started.

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Speaker 1: So this song is Ozzie's longest song, over seven minutes long,

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and it's got that little dip where you're like, oh,

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the song's over.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it's not no.

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Speaker 2: And you're exactly right to compare it to November Rain.

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It's three different songs in one that breakdown in the

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middle where you have that dark, haunting synth.

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Speaker 3: So you get this break, yeah, get this piano with

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the keyboards, with the bell.

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Speaker 1: It's majestic and slow, and the guitar is coming in

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and it's like an anthem.

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Speaker 3: It's also slow.

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Speaker 1: And powerful and just builds and builds up and up,

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and then the drums start slowly building and you have

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this break where it moves from slow anthem rock guitar

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to speed metal blow your friggin mind, madness.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: And Zach Wild he's doing those levels with the guitar

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and it keeps climbing and climbing and faster and climbing,

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and then it drops out and then we're right back

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to the the bassline. It's incredible. The song gives me chills. Right,

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it's a mind blowing song, man freaking pastic You might

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be familiar with the song from Little Nicky starring Adam Sandler.

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I've got a quick story about this song. Bob Daisley

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actually plays the bass line on the song track Okay.

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He was the bass player and lyricist for Ozzie's first

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three solo albums Okay, But on Bark of the Moon

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he was uncredited because of an agreement where he took

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a buyout on songs. I don't really understand how all

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of this works, but he didn't get the proper credit

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for songwriting that he felt that he deserved. So he

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got into a little bit of a fight with the

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ardents okay about payment. They paid him out rather than

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paid him for royalties. And so when he was asked

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right lyrics for No More Tears, huh, Like he was

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getting ready to sit down and try to work on

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this song, and he said, well, okay, I'll write the

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lyrics for this song, but I don't want to be

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bought out this time. I want credit for songwriting, right,

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And they're like, see that door, see you later.

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Speaker 1: So fired Inez is credited as a writer on the song.

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He was the one that came up with the bass rift,

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but Bob Daisley was the one that ultimately played it

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for the recording.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's it, if that makes sense. Yeah, all right,

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are we done with No More Tears?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: It is a wonderful, beautiful, dark haunting.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the best song on the album.

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Speaker 2: Then I think I don't know if there's any argument

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for me on that one. All right, Okay, So the

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next song on the album is Won't Be Coming Home,

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also known as s I N Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, at this beginning part, it's so slow and so bluesy,

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I really feel like Crockett just got in a fight

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with Tubbs. He's driving his Ferrari down the ninth streets

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in Miami. You know, angry situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Crockett just got somebody shot on accident.

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Speaker 1: Dealing with the grief, throwing the bottle out the window.

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But fortunately they come in. I like at the beginning,

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it's not very ausy, but I like it. But then

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they come in full azzy speed home.

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Speaker 3: Yeap, just what you want.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, this song is very slow and very bloozy. Just

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like you said to me, this sounds like Long Cold

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Winter by Cinderella, who's a bluesy rock band. Sure, but

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you're right, it does pick up. But then you have

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this wonderful, great sort of melodic chorus. Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very hooky, very poppy, and its sensibility in

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the chorus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, another radio friendly song. It wasn't released, but all

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these songs can be played on the This is not

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Crazy Wildman, Ozzie. These are great radio size.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say other than I

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was shocked at the amount of ballads that we're finding

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on this album.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly, the first lines are about a psycho driver twisted

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in his head, but this he's talking about voices in

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his head. This. When I'm listening to the lyrics on this,

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I'm thinking about the fight with Sharon that got him arrested.

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He said, I saw it happening like deja vu. They

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tried to tell me, but they couldn't get through.

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Speaker 3: In my head.

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Speaker 1: I hear voices scream I need someone to tell me

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what it means. And then it says WHOA, who turned

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off the lights? WHOA shadow in the night, whoa It

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wasn't meant to be. I can't take this alone. Don't

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leave me on my own tonight. No, I can't take

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it alone. Don't leave me on my own tonight.

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Speaker 3: So it's I mean, I'm not saying that that's what

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it is.

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Speaker 1: I've got nothing to back that up, but it sure

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sounds like I had voices in my head. I don't

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remember what happened, and there was a big old problem

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because of it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's exactly play what this song is about.

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He blacked out, doesn't remember any of it, and this

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is his recollection of that. Any idea what s I

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n stands for? Anything in the lyrics that could tell

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us what s Ion stands for?

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Speaker 3: That I can see?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so moving on the world may never know.

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Why would you have an acronym in a song and

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not spell it out for us?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: So the next song on the album is called hell Raiser. Okay,

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So hell Raiser is a song written by Ozzy, Zach Wilde,

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and Lemmy from Motorhead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this one is his I'm on the Road song. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The line the lyrics, very first lyrics are I'm living

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on an endless road around the world.

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Speaker 3: For rock and roll. Sometimes it feels so tough, but I.

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Speaker 1: Still ain't had enough and then it goes into the raizo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So this tour was the No More Tours tour, yes,

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which meant he was done, except that he wasn't, because

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two years later he came back with retirement Sucks tour.

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00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: Right.

474
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,759
Speaker 1: He needs the stage is what this song is about.

475
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:27,200
He needs the lights, he needs the noise. That's what

476
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,160
lights is fired.

477
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,559
Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. You know if you like this

478
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,119
song and you say to yourself, hey, this song's great,

479
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,119
but it's not quite heavy enough for me, that's okay,

480
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,240
because Motorhead recorded a version of this song on their

481
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:50,920
nineteen ninety two album March or Die. There you go,

482
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,240
what do you think? Pretty good?

483
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: Right?

484
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:54,599
Speaker 5: Yeah?

485
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: This song appeared in the two thousand and four video

486
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,759
game Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.

487
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: Okay.

488
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,559
Speaker 2: It's also the entrance music for the professional wrestling team

489
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,640
the hell Raisers.

490
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 5: Shocker, right right, how appropriate?

491
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: I like this song?

492
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 5: This is another rocker.

493
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,079
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'm not fast forwarding.

494
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: We're flipping between melodic rockers and awesome power ballance. The

495
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,440
video that motor had made for hell Raiser yea. The

496
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,200
video shows let me playing poker against Pinhead from the

497
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:36,359
hell Raiser movies. That is pretty cool. What's that guy say,

498
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,000
will tear your soul apart?

499
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 5: Nice?

500
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: All right?

501
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:44,519
Speaker 2: After hell Raiser, we move on to a song that

502
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,400
gets tons of radio plays till to this day. It's

503
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,119
called Time after Time. It is not the Cindy rock.

504
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: All right. So this song is simple, okay, but straightforward.

505
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:29,160
It's a lost love, right. It's not particularly deeper complex

506
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:33,519
lyrics the song itself. The music isn't super complex either,

507
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,039
but it sure.

508
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: Is the hints ear candy.

509
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:41,519
Speaker 1: You get a twelve string guitar with a kick butt

510
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,480
drum behind it and a kick butt lead on top

511
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:46,759
of that, and I'm in and this is that all

512
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:47,359
over the place.

513
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I love this one. This one has the

514
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,000
line in it, line after line. Yeah, it's got to

515
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:57,039
be we're talking about cocaine there, right, Yeah.

516
00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: So he says it twice, and so the first it's

517
00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:04,519
I couldn't read your mind, line after line, and then

518
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:07,359
line after line it was written in your eyes. You

519
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:10,680
kind of get the impression that he didn't do what

520
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:13,880
he should have done, he should have seen it, but

521
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:18,480
also that it was those cocaine lines that were blurring

522
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:18,920
his vision.

523
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,319
Speaker 3: The vision.

524
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another song that has an incredible slow

525
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:41,720
breakdown in the middle, and he even has that sort

526
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,640
of I don't know what you call it, drum machine.

527
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,079
It was like that beautiful power ballad. You admit you

528
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,960
brought it up in the last song. I wanted to

529
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,799
talk about it just a little bit. This album was

530
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,039
supposed to be his last tour, right, and so he

531
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,640
was going to They even called it the No More

532
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:01,839
Tours Tour. Yeah, okay, from June of ninety two to

533
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,319
November of ninety two, because he was incorrectly diagnosed with

534
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,839
multiple sclerosis. Oh okay, and so the last few dates

535
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:13,079
of that tour, it may have been in the last date,

536
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,799
like November fifteenth and ninety two, the original four members

537
00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:20,440
of Black Sabbath played on stage altogether again, But of

538
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,680
course that was a misdiagnosis.

539
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: He was feeling good.

540
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: So a couple of years later it comes back with

541
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:27,559
the Retirement Sucks.

542
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:31,559
Speaker 1: Tour, and then a couple of years after that does

543
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:33,920
a tour with the old members of Black Sabbath.

544
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: It's awesome, and I think he either just finished or

545
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,759
is just starting his No More Tours tour two right now.

546
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,319
So time after time, beautiful lovely melodic song. Can't say

547
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,000
enough love it?

548
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: Right?

549
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,039
Speaker 3: Okay.

550
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,119
Speaker 2: The next song on the album is called Zombie Stomped.

551
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,720
All right, D So this song has a stupid title, right.

552
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,880
I don't know what the zombie stomp is, but you

553
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,599
have this really cool, grand two minute intro to this song.

554
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,920
And really, if you don't like this song, you don't

555
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,359
like rockby. He's like, I mean, this is just a

556
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,640
beautiful build up.

557
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pumping, pulsing.

558
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: They keep adding layers and instruments.

559
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: And I think that if you're thinking of zombies like Merberis,

560
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,799
that's that probably is gonna make it a stupid title

561
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:42,279
for you. But the lyrics, I mean again, I'm I'm

562
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:46,200
throwing my own interpretation on here. But he's talking about

563
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:50,160
having to struggle through, needing something to kill the pain.

564
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:56,319
I'm thinking that the zombie he's referring to is the drink. Okay, yes, okay,

565
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,559
because he's talking about having a headache and don't call

566
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:00,759
me a dotor, just give.

567
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,759
Speaker 3: Me something to kill the pain.

568
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,079
Speaker 1: And I, you know, the morning after killing me again,

569
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:09,880
I think, yeah, I think it's gotta be zombie. It's

570
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,400
got to be an alcohol more drug references. Yes, yeah,

571
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,079
and so how did well? How to do an alcohol

572
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:20,000
reference that also ties into your occult and scary?

573
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

574
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's where it is. So yeah, what's

575
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,759
a drink that's scary?

576
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: The zombie? That's that's where I'm okay, all right, tell

577
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,519
me I'm wrong.

578
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: I can't.

579
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,319
Speaker 5: I have no idea.

580
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: All right, So to our listeners out there, if you

581
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,240
know better, tell me i'm wrong.

582
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: Okay, fun song, good song, good rocker, yep, moving on,

583
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,119
all right. The next song on the album is called

584
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,880
a v H another acronym. Yes, okay, with the mysterious

585
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,839
what does it stand for? Question?

586
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,359
Speaker 1: I know the answer in this one is okay, Well

587
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,480
are you excited? I?

588
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,799
Speaker 2: Well, I've got two answers?

589
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: You got two? Okay?

590
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,599
Speaker 2: Well, all right, go ahead, what you got?

591
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: Okay? Wait, let's play the Let's listen to the song first.

592
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,359
Speaker 2: Okay.

593
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: So this song.

594
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,679
Speaker 1: When this song starts off, I'm thinking of Aersmith. We've

595
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,519
got the old bluesy style and when you come in

596
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,400
that the riff that he's got going is very Joe

597
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,639
Perry asked.

598
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,119
Speaker 3: D D D dent nna Yeah, and it's and even.

599
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: The lyrics are up and down, it's about it's about

600
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,800
the blues, baby rock and freaking roll Man. Not typical

601
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,239
Ozzy stuff, but it's I think this has to be

602
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,760
a Zach Wilde contribution to the album. But we still

603
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,559
have the question of what does a v H mean?

604
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,159
Speaker 3: Right? Okay, So do you know who Chris Jericho is?

605
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: I do know who Chris Jared the wrestler, yes, and

606
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,880
radio personality.

607
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,199
Speaker 1: Yeah he's He's a professional wrestler and a lead singer

608
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:00,199
for Fozzy And according to him, okay, Ozzy Osbourne said

609
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:06,199
that a v H stands for aston Villa Highway, which

610
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,519
is an homage to the football team that he and

611
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:13,840
his Black Sabbath bandmates followed when they were kids growing

612
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,159
up in Birmingham.

613
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Okay, not Alabama. Okay, so I've heard that too, the

614
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,639
aston Villa Highway a v H. He doesn't say that

615
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,440
anywhere of the song, but here was the rumor on

616
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:30,079
the street. Okay, now you know rumors whatever. A v

617
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:37,599
H stood for alcohol value and hashish. Oh, okay, talking more,

618
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,800
you know, more drugs.

619
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,599
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this because if I was going

620
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:43,199
to if if somebody were going to say, what's the

621
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,639
drug with H? I'm not going to say hashish, I'm

622
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:49,920
gonna say heroin. But among the drugs that Ozzie has done,

623
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,480
he has.

624
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: Not done heroin.

625
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:53,599
Speaker 2: He never did heroin, Never did heroin.

626
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,639
Speaker 3: I love it. He's like did did didn't do ecstasy,

627
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:03,880
did do heroin? Did do a ball Oh wait? Yeah?

628
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,519
Speaker 2: All right? What do you think of this one?

629
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think it's it's fun. I'm not skipping it.

630
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:11,639
Speaker 2: I'm not skipping it either. And like you, I was

631
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:15,039
surprised at the amount of ballads on this album and

632
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:16,679
the amount of blues I hear on this album.

633
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

634
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,519
Speaker 1: Well, let's not forget they did originally back in the

635
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:32,760
seventies get together to be a blues band.

636
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Saxophone in black seven Yeah, okay, all right.

637
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,119
Next song on the album, the last song on the

638
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:43,079
original release, The Road to Nowhere.

639
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is about Sarah Palin and an event

640
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,039
that occurred during the two thousand and eight Oh wait,

641
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,079
I'm sorry, has a bridge to Nowhere?

642
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: Never mind? Sorry? Sorry, scrap that politics.

643
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: Yes, so this song number one, I love it before

644
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,400
I get certain listen, I love but number two Black Sabbath.

645
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,519
When they were together, they did everything they could to

646
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,000
not be formulaic, right, They weren't going to do verse chorus,

647
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:34,440
verse chorus, bridge chorus done. They avoided that in this album.

648
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,559
We've had it over and over. Right, there's a formula here,

649
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:41,480
but they execute it with such perfection. And I got

650
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,239
to give lots and lots of credit to Zach Wilde

651
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:47,679
because you've got a song here that I mean is

652
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,679
drums and a guitar at the beginning, and you are

653
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,360
playing along with it. If you're not playing air guitar

654
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:58,280
or beating on air drums at the beginning of this song,

655
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,000
there's something wrong with you.

656
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: We both did it at the same time, Yes, we

657
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,039
both did it impromptu.

658
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,199
Speaker 3: Yes, it is so good.

659
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,639
Speaker 1: And the dynamics are so powerful where they can go

660
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:25,480
from this sweet and beautiful sound to this powerful kick

661
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,280
in the chorus, and then when they move into the bridge,

662
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,440
it's a beautiful transition again. And the lyrics are so

663
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:39,599
self reflective. So you know, I'm really the problem. All

664
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,079
along the road to nowhere.

665
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,519
Speaker 3: Leads to me.

666
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,519
Speaker 2: Tip of Gore can't come after him on this one.

667
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:49,800
I'll tell you that he's very much accountable to his

668
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,360
former actions, and you know, the events of his life

669
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,960
that left him in you know, wreckage he talks about

670
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:59,639
this is clearly talking the road to nowhere. Drugs are

671
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,360
the road to Nowhere. I love this song.

672
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: We've had so many albums that we the last song

673
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,320
on the album I went man, I wish they would

674
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,440
have left this one off. This one finishes strong.

675
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: That's such a great capper.

676
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,119
Speaker 1: Again, arguably best song on the album. I'm not saying

677
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:18,920
it is, but you could make the case. You could

678
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,320
make the case, and to finish as strong, actually stronger

679
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:29,920
than you started with so many powerful, chart topping, amazing

680
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,400
songs throughout It's master Fez.

681
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,639
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you, I'm with you. What a great

682
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,320
end to the album.

683
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:36,639
Speaker 3: Yep.

684
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,639
Speaker 2: Now, just to comment on that this album was re

685
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:42,119
released in two thousand and two, there was two bonus

686
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:44,880
songs called Don't Blame Me and Party with the Animals.

687
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,400
Uh huh, we're not gonna talk about those, No, we're

688
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,920
talking about the original nineteen ninety one release. Right. One

689
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,480
more thing about Road to Nowhere.

690
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: Yes, the video.

691
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,519
Speaker 2: I watched the video for this song. Did you watche

692
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:59,159
the video? Okay, so it has kind of this interesting beginning.

693
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,000
It's in black and white in Ozzie one like.

694
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,119
Speaker 5: A carterage or Sewers or something.

695
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: He's sitting in an apartment room watching a television of

696
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,159
clips of Ozzy Osbourne from the eighties, okay, and he

697
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,639
keeps flipping channels. He's getting mad, and it's basically he's

698
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:18,239
thinking about the way he used to be and he's

699
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,559
watching himself and he's like, change the channel. So he's

700
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:23,559
another picture of himself, like A hate that guy. I

701
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:26,000
hate that guy, right, and he finally pulls out a

702
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,639
gun and blows up the DV. It's a very early

703
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,559
nineties video.

704
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,119
Speaker 1: So just a thought, because I think this probably applies

705
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,480
to a lot of the guys who listen to us.

706
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,079
Speaker 3: Replies to us, he was forty two this on.

707
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,079
Speaker 1: I mean, you get to a point on your life

708
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,480
that you start reflecting, you start looking back, and you're like,

709
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,519
if you're disappointed.

710
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: With where you are, if you're doing it right, you're.

711
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Speaker 1: Probably saying to yourself, I'm the one that put myself here. Yeah,

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but never fear because forty two or forty five or

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forty seven is all still young.

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Speaker 3: You got a whole lot of life.

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Speaker 2: Left in front of you, right, That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So we're ready to jump in the final Just.

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Speaker 2: Skip to final judgment, okay, D, all right, D, where

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are you?

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Speaker 3: You want me to go first?

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Speaker 2: You want me to go first.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, I'll go first.

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Speaker 5: I'll go first, you go first?

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Before we dove into this, I would have said I

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am more of an Aerosmith fan. I definitely was more

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familiar with the Get A Grip album than I was

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No More Tears, even though I owned both albums. When

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I examined the gett A Grip album, there are certain

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songs that I love on that album, but there's also

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songs that I would skip and be happy if I

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never heard again more than one or two or three.

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Even I love Living on the Edge, I love Amazing

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and Crying, and those songs really define the early nineties

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for me because they were on all the time. But

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when I took the deep dive that we did into

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Ozzie's No More Tears album, the best song on the

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album is No More Tears. One A is Mama, I'm

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Coming Home. Right after that, you Got Roads Nowhere and

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time after time. Mister Tinker Train is a butt kicking,

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thumping rock song. But you go up and down the album.

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Every song is good. Every song on No More Tears

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is good. There are some throwaway skippers on Get a Grip,

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there are some brilliant points, but for the album to

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album comparison, it is clearly, in my opinion, No More Tears.

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Where are You?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean to compare the work of the band. I

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probably was in the same spot like Aerosmith. I knew,

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I knew sweet Emotion, I knew dream On, I knew

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Walk This Way. And then when they started hitting big

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again in the eighties, I was all about those songs,

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and we picked Get a Grip because it was their

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biggest selling album of the time, and it was the

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nineties album that came out the same time as this one,

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where we've got seventies rockers bringing it back full circle

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in the nineties, and you've got great songs. You've got

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Eat the Rich, you've got living on the Edge, you've

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got crying, you've got crazy, you've got amazing. And then

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my personal little one that I brought out of this one,

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having not heard it before, was boogey Man. I know

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you don't like it, but I dig I dig it,

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and so I'll be coming back to that one. But

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I'm in the same position that I was with Journey

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when we covered Frontiers. All of the other songs are

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like the generic Aerosmith song. Like I hear it, I'm like, okay,

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it's Ariasmith. I'm not gonna you know, if I'm busy,

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I'm not going to turn it off.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm trying to.

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Speaker 1: Listen hard, I'm gonna skip some of these songs so

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I can get to some of those other songs that

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I love.

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Speaker 3: Right when I get to No.

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Speaker 1: More Tears, I don't skip. It is a rock solid,

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no skipper, great from beginning to end. There are some

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songs that are greater than others, but all of them

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are worthy to take your time and dive into because

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they are all very good songs, zero skippers. And so

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that being the case, I got to pick No More

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Tears as well.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how often does that happen? We agree?

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Speaker 3: What? How about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hear from you guys. What do you think

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Arasmiths get a Grip album or Ozzie's No More Tears?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Hit us up on Twitter, hit us up on Facebook,

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We're at Shirley Podcast. On both of those you can

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email us Shirleypodcast at gmail dot com and if you

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want to help us out a little bit, you can

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go to our Patreon page where you can subscribe.

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Speaker 3: To send us a monthly donation.

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Speaker 1: Enough to buy a cup of coffee for us will

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be enough to get you an executive producer credit on

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one of our episodes, and we got cool stuff. I

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still use the headphones. The headphones that we give away

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are my favorite headphones.

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Speaker 5: They have great.

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Speaker 1: Some big company come into trouncing on me because I

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said something bad about their product, But I have the

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expensive headphones and I prefer the ones that we give out.

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Speaker 5: I did too.

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Speaker 2: These stay in my ears when I go jogging.

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Speaker 1: So if you're interested in that, check out our Patreon page.

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And as always, you've got the phone in your hand,

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just go to that podcast app and you just hit

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that subscribe button right in the face and you get

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to hear us every single week.

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Speaker 3: We love a couple times a week.

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Speaker 2: We'd love a five star review too, if you've got

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a few minutes. Next week, we have one of the

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funniest cult classics of all time, Caddie Shack, and we

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are comparing it to.

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Speaker 3: One of the funniest golf classics of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Happy Gilmore, both golf movies, both classics.

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Happy Gilmore is actually reaching its twenty fifth anniversary.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's a quarter of a century old.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: Come back next week. I'm excited. A tune in to

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see which one's the best.

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Speaker 2: Everybody see if

