Speaker 1: You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Sean Garmer. Here with me as usual,
Speaker 1: mister Marc Morrison. All right, this is episode four and
Speaker 1: twenty eight of the show. And man, we took a
Speaker 1: week off last week just because I wasn't feeling great
Speaker 1: and then I was in here and you weren't here.
Speaker 1: I did, I did have somebody, it's just uh work.
Speaker 1: I really needed to do some overtime. I work too,
Speaker 1: and it was like I can't find a time that works.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, we're going to just take
Speaker 1: a week off because it's CS and most of them
Speaker 1: to gets announced it is not gaming related. You know,
Speaker 1: there was something gaming especially Switched to related. We'll get
Speaker 1: into that may or may not have pushed up the
Speaker 1: now supposed Switch to reveal that is set to happen
Speaker 1: later this week if a certain leaker is to be believed,
Speaker 1: and he usually has a good track record, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of Switch two stuff to
Speaker 1: talk about again, along with other leaks that happened throughout
Speaker 1: that week that we missed. Microsoft announced the Developer Direct
Speaker 1: that's happening January twenty third, and we'll get into the
Speaker 1: games that got announced there, including a surprise game that
Speaker 1: they're teasing really hard, so we'll see how how that goes.
Speaker 1: Sony announced some other things that are not that are
Speaker 1: about their gaming properties but not games at CS and
Speaker 1: Ubisoft delayed Assassins Creach Shadows again, so you know what's new.
Speaker 1: The bad time for Ubisoft continues so far. So with
Speaker 1: all that, we have plenty to talk about, so it'll
Speaker 1: be more of a news show than this week. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot, so let's get to it right after.
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Speaker 1: the episode. I'm only like that last week I got
Speaker 1: to really play anything. The the week going into the
Speaker 1: episode that I was gonna do, I have been playing
Speaker 1: some Ghosts of Tsushima or Sushima because I never actually
Speaker 1: played Ghost of Sushima before, and I figured, uh, you
Speaker 1: know why not, Uh got is gonna come out at
Speaker 1: some point this year, and you know, I like a
Speaker 1: lot of Samurai stuff and whatever. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: one of those things like it's way it's twenty just
Speaker 1: never got to that. And then of course, obviously with
Speaker 1: what we do, when we try to keep up with
Speaker 1: the new stuff, it's just hard to go back to
Speaker 1: old games. But January has kind of been except for
Speaker 1: this week where we kind of got a sort of
Speaker 1: big game coming, even though that's still sort of niche
Speaker 1: as well. We uh, you know, I decided to play that.
Speaker 1: I got through like part of the most of the
Speaker 1: opening part and so like, I guess the next section
Speaker 1: after that. Really enjoying it so far. The combat it's
Speaker 1: really fun, and uh, just enjoying doing the pairing and
Speaker 1: going through and doing the that narrative part at the beginning,
Speaker 1: which is really cool.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So I'll probably get to more of that as time
Speaker 1: goes on, because I'm still trying to figure out when
Speaker 1: my first game is going to be. Because there's been
Speaker 1: some like you know, you know, like I like East
Speaker 1: and All, but I didn't want to play that remaster
Speaker 1: that came out like a week ago or what. It's
Speaker 1: only thirty bucks if I want to play it down
Speaker 1: the line, it's I'm like, I'm sure it'll go on
Speaker 1: silly bit more later. But what have you Aside from that?
Speaker 1: I haven't really played much. What have you been playing here?
Speaker 2: I bought Need for Speed Unbound I think that's what
Speaker 2: it's called during the sale. That's a miserable game.
Speaker 1: Why would you back to that game? No one? It's bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, actually has decent enough for us. It's not
Speaker 2: like some four star game or anything, right, but the
Speaker 2: principal of the game is like, oh, you're supposed to
Speaker 2: drift around the corners to get boosted, and you hit
Speaker 2: the boot at the right time to you know, get
Speaker 2: a like a boost or whatever, and like drifting sucks.
Speaker 2: It's just incredibly un like squirrely and like I can't
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I'm not doing it correctly, but it
Speaker 2: also this might be like overtuned or something like I
Speaker 2: just go careening off, you know, and you know, I
Speaker 2: get like four retrives trying to race, which is like weird.
Speaker 2: It's like, why can't you just keep retrying over and over?
Speaker 2: And yeah, I looked at this with the reviews like
Speaker 2: it's like seventy five percent online. That's not terrible, especially
Speaker 2: where some of the need for speed games are, you know, so,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I just don't like it at all. So
Speaker 2: it's like, well, this is four bucks well spent, and
Speaker 2: then it's like, oh yeah, tour bucks.
Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, what else I did try?
Speaker 2: And this is why I know this game is won't
Speaker 2: be free. I did try balder Skate three and the
Speaker 2: interface is so like clunky and he oriented, yeah, you
Speaker 2: won't have you won't have a chance. And I played
Speaker 2: it for an hour and I don't like this at all,
Speaker 2: like in this console or you know, I played the
Speaker 2: Piece five version. I'm like, oh no, no, thank.
Speaker 1: You, all right, fair enough. I mean I already knew
Speaker 1: it wasn't for.
Speaker 2: Me, so yeah, I just I can barely cumbersome and
Speaker 2: just like you know, full of like, oh, this weighs
Speaker 2: zero point one grand, you know weight or whatever, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh god, no, not one of these.
Speaker 1: It's very specific uh what, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I Uh, I did see Sonic three last week?
Speaker 1: How was that?
Speaker 2: All right? You know, I think it's better than the
Speaker 2: second one. I didn't like the second one much at all,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I still think the first one is the best.
Speaker 2: But it's pretty good. You know, counter reaches a decent
Speaker 2: job of shadow. Uh yeah, a lot less of the
Speaker 2: human stuff, even from like the second one, which is
Speaker 2: probably good.
Speaker 1: I mean it makes more sense, right, like this one
Speaker 1: is more about like the trio and then shadow as well,
Speaker 1: like on Sonic and the team and not necessarily humans
Speaker 1: that are not the first one. We made a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. Why he's there A lot the Sonics try
Speaker 1: to get used to the world, but you know, he's
Speaker 1: kind of been in it for a while.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, uh, since God is good, so sure, I'll
Speaker 2: keep cranking out those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they are already pretty much said. Number four
Speaker 1: is coming in a couple of years, so just wait
Speaker 1: on it. Yep, all right, anything else?
Speaker 2: Not really yeah, not really?
Speaker 1: All right, So let's go ahead and get into I
Speaker 1: guess some of the big news of this week. The
Speaker 1: only reason I normally I went and talk about this stuff,
Speaker 1: but it kind of leads into the other thing, so
Speaker 1: kind of have to talk about it. A lot of
Speaker 1: the hubbub around CES was that there was so many
Speaker 1: leaks happening from other third party manufacturers, like pictures and
Speaker 1: renders and even a three sixty render and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Yankee goes onto the
Speaker 1: show floor with a mock up switch to and at
Speaker 1: first they're going around telling people, oh, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a switch too. We haven't on good authority. This is
Speaker 1: exactly what it's gonna look like. It's the same size,
Speaker 1: the joy cons are gonna be the same basically, just
Speaker 1: you know, it's all that's it. It's it's the switch too, okay.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at it based on
Speaker 1: reports and stuff like that, okay, sure the screen size
Speaker 1: kind of matches up. The all that stuff makes sense.
Speaker 1: It has the magnetic things with the joy cons all
Speaker 1: that so right, it only makes sense that he's sort
Speaker 1: of telling the truth. But of course here comes the
Speaker 1: Nintendo ninja's and Nintendo lawyers showing up after this, of course,
Speaker 1: because a bunch of hubbab line and then he you know,
Speaker 1: rescinds the whole statement and says that oh they built
Speaker 1: this based on rumors and the leaks and stuff like that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, to cover themselves. They technically did not sign
Speaker 1: an NDA and they're not an official Nintendo third party
Speaker 1: accessory maker like some of the other ones apparently are
Speaker 1: that had images leaked.
Speaker 2: But I'm lead them any day now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I'm sure that Nintendo basically has them on
Speaker 1: the Okay, just get that ready to go now. But
Speaker 1: the whole point of this is that, of course this
Speaker 1: led to more talk about God, Nintendo just revealed the
Speaker 1: switch to already We've already seen pretty much the entire thing,
Speaker 1: even like the logo got leaked or whatever, which I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not really surprising it's Nintendo switched with the two
Speaker 1: on it. But I mean, and then anybody really expected
Speaker 1: to be anything but a bigger switch. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what we've all been, all the reports have said, We've
Speaker 1: all kind of said, that's what we wanted, right, Just
Speaker 1: a bigger switch that doesn't have drift on the toy
Speaker 1: cons and the joy con buttons are bigger and all
Speaker 1: that stuff seems to have been remedied as far as that.
Speaker 1: So then Nathan Hate on his podcast, which was also
Speaker 1: corroborated today by Jeff Grubb and his Morning Game mess
Speaker 1: and even VGC was posting about it as well, that
Speaker 1: the reveal could come this week, as early as Thursday,
Speaker 1: which would make sense because it's when Nintendo releases games,
Speaker 1: and they are releasing doc y Con Country Returns HD
Speaker 1: that day as well, and with Switch one being backwards compatible,
Speaker 1: it could make sense, right they could do it that
Speaker 1: same day. Hey, here's the hardware. You played doc kN
Speaker 1: Country Returns on this, and then also you could play
Speaker 1: of the things. He did mention that this is going
Speaker 1: to be more hardware focused, it's not going to necessarily
Speaker 1: be about the games. The game one will come later
Speaker 1: in a direct that will still happen in February March,
Speaker 1: which is usually run the to do the directs anyway
Speaker 1: for the winter time. Then a lot of folks were,
Speaker 1: you know, of course, saying that. I kind of started
Speaker 1: feeling like, there's no way they're just gonna show the system, right,
Speaker 1: Like they've got to at least do what they did
Speaker 1: in the original trailer where they show some of the games,
Speaker 1: even even if it's like two seconds of a tease
Speaker 1: of Mario or Mario cart nine or something right, like
Speaker 1: you can't possibly just show have give me fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: of here's the same cause this console that we already
Speaker 1: know what it looks like in twenty different angles rider
Speaker 1: or you think it's that's exactly what they're gonna do,
Speaker 1: or you think they might surprise with some games.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happened this Thursday. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of either here nor there. I hope all I
Speaker 2: actually hope all this stuff is just fake. And February
Speaker 2: like fifteenth or something that is, here's the switch to
Speaker 2: and it's a virtual boy too, like we spread we
Speaker 2: got everyone. I don't know. People are like way too
Speaker 2: obsessed with this nonsense. It's it'll come when it comes,
Speaker 2: or they'll show it and they show it like he'd
Speaker 2: be excited for it, but that you know, the jackass
Speaker 2: showing like a not even a prototycte like a mock
Speaker 2: up unit, right if you probably three D printed at
Speaker 2: a Best Buy an hour before. It's a what a loser?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean you know he got attention, right, that's what
Speaker 1: he wanted. You got attention and then the.
Speaker 2: Wrong attention or it's like, yeah, you had attention, for
Speaker 2: an hour or two until an adult showed up and
Speaker 2: told him to you know, quit during this bullshit, and
Speaker 2: then that attention went away, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, exactly. I mean there's I also think that,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, obviously, it's not like Nintendo has
Speaker 1: done this before, right, where people start making a big
Speaker 1: deal about something and then all of a sudden they'll
Speaker 1: just move it to the next day just to spite
Speaker 1: that person. Right, So they could just reveal it on
Speaker 1: Friday the seventy just to screw with you. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and nobody would We wouldn't be shocked. I also wouln't
Speaker 1: be surprised that they just throw a trailer on Blue
Speaker 1: Sky and Twitter and go here, you know, because they
Speaker 1: do that too.
Speaker 2: I mean also like forever for like crub and all
Speaker 2: these other people like speculating and stuff. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I always bring this up, but look how well this
Speaker 2: switch the switch pro lasted.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but we know this is coming. Even Nintendo
Speaker 1: has said this is coming. It's just there's only two months.
Speaker 1: There's only like two months left. So that's why everybody's
Speaker 1: gotta being like, oh, it's got to be this week, right,
Speaker 1: because it's got to be before March twenty first, like
Speaker 1: they said, it was before the end of the fiscal
Speaker 1: so it has to be you know.
Speaker 2: And six though, So.
Speaker 1: Now I do think that, you know, I was I
Speaker 1: was talking with some of the Nintendo podcast people over
Speaker 1: at the Outer Haven with Scott and Todd, and they
Speaker 1: were saying it would kind of suck if all they
Speaker 1: do is just show the hardware, because we know what
Speaker 1: the Switch two would look like.
Speaker 2: I mean, we also this thing, so it's not that's
Speaker 2: you know, yes.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get marbled because it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: PS five pro graphic, but there's gonna be technical things
Speaker 1: they can do that they couldn't do with Switch one
Speaker 1: that's gonna look cool. You know, we don't know what
Speaker 1: what little gadget Mario is gonna do, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll I'm sure we'll get some kind of zell the
Speaker 1: Breath of the Wild HD port or something saying, but
Speaker 1: and Mario Kart it seems like pretty much like a
Speaker 1: slam dug at this.
Speaker 2: Lot to sixty fran for a second or you know what.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, it's I mean, and that's which you know
Speaker 1: you may not be able to see on YouTube you
Speaker 1: have to wait to see if Nintendo actually puts out
Speaker 1: a four K version of the thing, so you could
Speaker 1: actually you know, be able to see the differences. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure Digital Founder had that ship, you know,
Speaker 2: an hour after it comes out, like the trailer comes out,
Speaker 2: over analyzing it and bitch about it doesn't have rate
Speaker 2: tracing or doesn't have whatever.
Speaker 1: But I mean, so you're not you're not excited about
Speaker 1: it at all.
Speaker 2: You know, I have this switch too, but I manage
Speaker 2: expectations and also like yo, I know what that thing
Speaker 2: is gonna be, so yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's true, like we whether they whatever
Speaker 1: they do. I do agree that if I'm waiting for
Speaker 1: a month and they don't show anything but the actual thing,
Speaker 1: it is going to be kind of disappointed. But I
Speaker 1: think Nintendo knows that right, Like Nintendo knows better. They
Speaker 1: will show you some glimpses of gameplay.
Speaker 2: Let me show you like Labo too, like here you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, No, I mean I don't know, like you know,
Speaker 1: there's that mystery sea button that everybody keeps watch that
Speaker 1: thing not be anything and where everybody's just for themselves
Speaker 1: out of oblivion for that.
Speaker 2: Thing be like an extra an extra share button or something.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean the more interesting stuff really is like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: we might finally get some like games that you will
Speaker 1: have been waiting to show up on the Switch, like
Speaker 1: you know the off Pasty seven remake series showing up
Speaker 1: on Switch to and also on Xbox. You know Assassines, well,
Speaker 1: Assassins Pema Rods was apparently going to be on there,
Speaker 1: and then Mineral with Delta the remake is also going
Speaker 1: to be on there. Not sure if that means launch
Speaker 1: or like launch window, but there's rumors that the it
Speaker 1: could even be put out there in April, which would
Speaker 1: be earlier I think than any of us said during the.
Speaker 2: Prediction, because that's fantasy. That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Why not the first Switch came into March.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first Switch also had like a year of
Speaker 2: hype and commercials and Reggie getting out there and telling
Speaker 2: people what it was. Yeah, not two months of you know,
Speaker 2: here it is. It's that's like bordering on like the
Speaker 2: second Saturn. Now fuckers go get it, like what I don't.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it needs this big lead up either,
Speaker 1: because it's literally the switch to you know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, I'm gonna see some games at some
Speaker 1: point they ever release it and then tell that to parents.
Speaker 2: You know, like when the Wing and the Wii you happened,
Speaker 2: but we.
Speaker 1: We you was drastically different all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: didn't have this thing that maybe you.
Speaker 2: Know a kid is. A kid is gonna go like, oh,
Speaker 2: I want more cart and nine. The parent will buy
Speaker 2: for him. I understand that's for the switch too, and
Speaker 2: the kid will try to play it and I can't
Speaker 2: play this any of the new I need a new one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they need to. They need to educate. Our reason is
Speaker 2: they need to educate parents and ship for this for
Speaker 2: this stuff. I mean, no, it ain't counting out in
Speaker 2: April I can. I can one hundred percent guarantee that
Speaker 2: at the earliest, I would say August.
Speaker 1: I still think my pick of June is still looking
Speaker 1: good right now. If they announced thing in January, you
Speaker 1: show off the launch line up in February, that's enough
Speaker 1: time there to get people to get ready in June
Speaker 1: to to buy that thing, and then you'll have enough
Speaker 1: stock for the holidays, which I think is their main point.
Speaker 1: But you know at that point once they release it,
Speaker 1: it's not like you know, they need it all to
Speaker 1: get bought at one time. They obviously have a whole
Speaker 1: launch window of games that they would give off on.
Speaker 2: There's the one new game in nineteen ports of Switch
Speaker 2: games here you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the thing, right, is like this
Speaker 1: is gonna allow them to do even more ports of
Speaker 1: games that they couldn't do.
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm still no Metroy Prime two or three HD.
Speaker 1: I think those are gonna come as.
Speaker 2: Or Mario Galaxy two that ever came out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that might with them. But yeah, look, obviously
Speaker 1: gotta play the waiting game to see what's actually gonna
Speaker 1: happen on Thursday. If it does somehow get I guess
Speaker 1: we'll if there's anything of substance, it's not just hey
Speaker 1: it's the Switch, but bigger.
Speaker 2: I imagine Thursday will coming on and those have like
Speaker 2: a thirty second trailer going like, hey, come back to February.
Speaker 1: That'd be hilarious, That's what it was. They just tease
Speaker 1: you like that. I'd be like, y'all wanted to see it.
Speaker 1: Here you go, and then the rest of it in February.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'd show like a corner of the joy kind too,
Speaker 2: So come back in February.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do think it's different this time
Speaker 1: because the first time they didn't have the they had
Speaker 1: their their like, you know, e three things, but they
Speaker 1: didn't have the like direct thing down the way they
Speaker 1: did once the switch was in vogue. So people will
Speaker 1: be very very excited in that build up if they announced, oh,
Speaker 1: come back February fourteen, fifteen whatever and look at all
Speaker 1: the games and whatnot too, So that's going to be
Speaker 1: a fun thing when itever does happen. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: think we're not getting out of this month without them
Speaker 1: showing it. Like I'd be very surprised if we get
Speaker 1: out of January if we don't get the review of
Speaker 1: the console from Nintendo, because I feel like these they
Speaker 1: they aren't stopping the leaks. They're just gonna keep happening.
Speaker 2: See I could I could see that if this was
Speaker 2: an American company, But Nintendo is praise trying to like
Speaker 2: Japanese still, so I imagine there's they're just pissed about the
Speaker 2: leaks and you know they're just going to hold on
Speaker 2: to their plan and see you through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but moving on from that. Uh. Microsoft also before
Speaker 1: this announced that they were going to bring back their
Speaker 1: developer Direct, which would now be the third year in
Speaker 1: a row that they do it. This year, they're going
Speaker 1: to bring three heavy hitters, Doom Dark.
Speaker 2: I was going to guess some go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, Voodoo, Vince, Uh,
Speaker 2: Brute Force and Blinks to Time Sweepers.
Speaker 1: All coming to retro game pas.
Speaker 2: No, they're just gonna make new ones. This is their
Speaker 2: big floyd for the Xbox to come back, bigger and
Speaker 2: stronger than ever.
Speaker 1: I wonder if people would actually care, like Brute Force game.
Speaker 2: Brute Force no Blood Wake, Yes, forget I feel like this,
Speaker 2: forget this car combat game. We need a boat combat game.
Speaker 1: I feel like Blinks could could get some interest for you.
Speaker 2: Maybe like the nostalgia. But then people play and this
Speaker 2: is like a mediocre shit, you know.
Speaker 1: Like obviously what it would lead to ise would just
Speaker 1: being like why are we getting Blinks when Banjos right there?
Speaker 2: So right is obviously the bigger property, right.
Speaker 1: But uh, moving to actual the actual games that are
Speaker 1: going to be on there, do the Dark Ages, uh,
Speaker 1: South of Midnight and Clear Obscure Spinis for thirty three
Speaker 1: So three of my most anticipated games all come in
Speaker 1: to Game Pass in one show, which is pretty great,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be plugged in the whole time, Whereas
Speaker 1: like last year they had that Are Your History un Told,
Speaker 1: which was interesting, but it's definitely not my kind of game.
Speaker 1: And then they supposedly they are pushing this, so this
Speaker 1: is not like last year where they just surprised with
Speaker 1: Vision Savanna being added to the show. They are pushing
Speaker 1: this hard that there is some surprise game that they're announcing,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna get a studio visit and everything.
Speaker 1: And there's already rumors going around from just Cording to
Speaker 1: Windows Central and some others that would say Japanese RPG
Speaker 1: with a long history. So I don't know if that
Speaker 1: means it's a bait and Swiss and it's just FO
Speaker 1: Fantasy sixteen or something, or if it's actually like a
Speaker 1: series we haven't seen in a long time.
Speaker 2: It couldn't be sixteen, because like the nine people that
Speaker 2: would still care would be like, all right, I yes.
Speaker 1: But I can see them announcing those like you know,
Speaker 1: I The Fall Fatty seven and sixteen, and then go, oh,
Speaker 1: we have one more, and then it's that's the actual game.
Speaker 2: I didn't see the RPG part. So I saw a
Speaker 2: lot of people on Twitter like theorizing is going to
Speaker 2: be like a Ninja Guiding game, But are they are you.
Speaker 1: Already getting Ninja Guiden them? You game?
Speaker 2: No, like a real Ninja Guiden game, like the third
Speaker 2: person one. H. The problem is is they don't own
Speaker 2: Ninja Guiden.
Speaker 1: Like well yeah, and then the original.
Speaker 2: Well Kelly Techno owns their Team Ninja you know whoever.
Speaker 2: But also yeah, uh, the only good Ninja Guiding game
Speaker 2: was the first one.
Speaker 1: Like it was pretty good too, I like too, Three
Speaker 1: was terrible.
Speaker 2: Two is not bad, but it's I mean, it's it's
Speaker 2: not even like as good as a first. And the
Speaker 2: fact that the fact that first was like on a
Speaker 2: generation before is like where I kind of lose is me?
Speaker 1: Like, we agree with you.
Speaker 2: There couldn't surpassed this, Yeah, I guess. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 2: Rage Bound but yeah, oh god.
Speaker 1: That looks good though it's a you know, they.
Speaker 2: Have not no, it's what's a side scroller or you know,
Speaker 2: metro Vana may possibly or something. But like I'm talking
Speaker 2: like you know, third person behind the back, remember Yaiba
Speaker 2: Ninja Guiden.
Speaker 1: Trying not to remember that. Really, yeah, that franchise.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what I heard. I mean, if we're
Speaker 2: talking like old Japanese RPG franchise, the only thing I
Speaker 2: can think of, because they ain't gonna be like Dragon Quest.
Speaker 1: Uh, dragon Quest would be weird. They just it's greatest,
Speaker 1: would just announced that, it seems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all I could think think of, like honestly is
Speaker 2: Fantasy Star.
Speaker 1: They have worked with them before.
Speaker 2: But well, I mean Star Online two is on that
Speaker 2: on the Xbox. It's only on the Xbox I think, so.
Speaker 1: No, it got poored it eventually, I think, but never
Speaker 1: it was they made a big deal about it being
Speaker 1: only on Xbox for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean like I new, like here's a
Speaker 2: new Fantasy Start five or you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, that would be cool because we haven't seen
Speaker 1: that a long time.
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know any other, Like, is there any
Speaker 2: like old Japanese RPG franchise you like you like to see?
Speaker 1: I just I don't think how Kam will bring back
Speaker 1: Breath of Fire?
Speaker 2: No after that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Shadow Hearts would be awesome, but again, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think Shadow Hearts exist to me, Like, I don't
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that was it wasn't that
Speaker 2: the Quam or like Midway or something.
Speaker 1: It's one of those weird Yeah, Midway.
Speaker 2: Published it and Into Grounds published it, and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean the developers with defunct looks like a decade ago.
Speaker 1: So the only thing I could think of that would
Speaker 1: really shock is wood Screens. Let them have like the
Speaker 1: Tactics remaster announcement, or even fol Fantasy nine. That's that's
Speaker 1: Those are the only two I can think of that
Speaker 1: would like really earth Shatter or something like that.
Speaker 2: I think that Square seems somewhat comfortable having Fantasy games
Speaker 2: go to the platform eventually, but them announcing something that
Speaker 2: is like not intrinsically but mostly tied to PlayStation.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think most people would know it's
Speaker 1: not going to stay on Xbox.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, if they announce like hey, we're remaking
Speaker 2: Final Fantasy Legend, all right, pure or whatever, But if
Speaker 2: it's Tactics or you know, the nine remake, like nope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's obviously wishful thinking. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to think of something that would be like huge, and
Speaker 1: those are the two that like we know exists somewhere,
Speaker 1: especially Tactics seems very much more likely than nine that you.
Speaker 2: Know, Uh, it'll be like tar Enigma two, what Live
Speaker 2: a Liver or Alive.
Speaker 1: Don't show a trailer for that kidam Hart's mobile gates, Right,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, you know what, considering that macros
Speaker 1: authors trying to push that mobile store, it may not
Speaker 1: be stat Bark Fence, but probably not. In news of
Speaker 1: the Water is Wet, it's really becoming this at this point,
Speaker 1: The water is Wet. Other games that are Xbox formally
Speaker 1: SBOS exclusive are going to be coming the PlayStation five
Speaker 1: and perhaps even switched to, depending on if you know
Speaker 1: the console can handle it. I don't think that Microsoft
Speaker 1: Wie simulartor twenty twenty four and help A two will
Speaker 1: be one of those. But I could see Master Chief
Speaker 1: Collection and Gears of War the One Ultimate Edition coming
Speaker 1: into the switch to. Uh, they are definitely coming to
Speaker 1: play station five, according to Windows Central.
Speaker 2: Just Cordon, I mean, why do you not say, uh,
Speaker 2: not Flight Simulator, but the other one, the North one.
Speaker 1: Hel Blade two, that the graphics on that game are ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can scale it down. Yeah, but and
Speaker 2: switch you know, Nintendo owners don't care about graphics, so
Speaker 2: you know it's kind of a point fight simulator.
Speaker 1: Still seems like a bit but.
Speaker 2: No, that that ain't come. Yeah, I can guarantee you.
Speaker 1: That it had problems on the Series X, right, I
Speaker 1: mean if they do have to work with series s,
Speaker 1: then maybe they can.
Speaker 2: Mean especially with like hel Blade too. You know it's
Speaker 2: time we run at four K on the switch to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, plus they have the AI. We don't know how
Speaker 1: the how the video AI stuff is gonna work.
Speaker 2: I think the problem is like hell Blay two and
Speaker 2: the Switch too would be like who's gonna apply it
Speaker 2: or play it or clearly like.
Speaker 1: There's Look, I still think we're gonna a lot of
Speaker 1: switch bump that will buy things on Switch at least
Speaker 1: until PlayStation and Xbox come out with their own handhelds.
Speaker 1: If they do, you're still gonna get a switch bump
Speaker 1: from people buying.
Speaker 2: But games Microsoft fans. Steven didn't even buy it, so I.
Speaker 1: Mean that game wasn't that great, so people just and
Speaker 1: I thought were really short. You can finish it in
Speaker 1: one day, so I mean I wouldn't buy it either,
Speaker 1: even at fifty dollars. I'm sorry, I'm just not go
Speaker 1: rent it.
Speaker 2: And then I bought.
Speaker 1: Hell Blade one at twenty I'm sorry, just like there's
Speaker 1: just times where you know, there's games I'm gonna pay
Speaker 1: the full prices games.
Speaker 2: Well, but my most accounts All Blade one is the
Speaker 2: gat better name. Like, well, I agree, yeah, maybe not graphically,
Speaker 2: but at least a gameplay wise or whatever.
Speaker 1: So the gameplay is sort of the same. It's just
Speaker 1: they made the fighting, which really wasn't that big a
Speaker 1: deal in the first one, more of a big deal
Speaker 1: on this one, and then they tried to make it
Speaker 1: way too cinematic and kind of right, and it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of you're trying to really you're trying
Speaker 1: really hard not to make it a walking simulator when
Speaker 1: it's already a walking slaty. Yeah, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: just let me experience the ambiance. That's what I'm there
Speaker 1: for in the graphics. Look the other stuff coming. I
Speaker 1: think the shell Shock will be there initially when that
Speaker 1: gets announced. But at this point people are just kind
Speaker 1: of I think, you know, they've gotten what they wanted
Speaker 1: with that, you know, Phil Spencer and Microsoft got what
Speaker 1: they wanted. People are starting to just kind of get eh, whatever, Right,
Speaker 1: it's happening. You know, I think as long as they
Speaker 1: keep making as long as no there's no reports that
Speaker 1: that cost was not coming in twenties, twenty six or whatever,
Speaker 1: none of this stuff is gonna matter. Because as long
Speaker 1: as they still have something to play those games on
Speaker 1: the Xbox related where you don't lose your purchase, I
Speaker 1: guess it doesn't really matter at this point. He would
Speaker 1: have kind of got to get used to it still
Speaker 1: and know that gaming is changing. R Xbox is just
Speaker 1: trying to once again be the first. We'll see if
Speaker 1: this one works out for them. But then an open
Speaker 1: direct looks like it's going to be pretty cool, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure there will be more PlayStation five games that
Speaker 1: will come from Xbox Studios. They're already getting what Doom
Speaker 1: Out of Worlds are both coming day and date, so
Speaker 1: you know, if there's if there's not others, So I
Speaker 1: think for what you're getting, I guess at least some
Speaker 1: of these are still exclusive for now, but the window
Speaker 1: will get shorter and shorter. I feel like as we
Speaker 1: keep going on something that was interesting, but I can
Speaker 1: kind of understand why, because I think they don't want
Speaker 1: people to try to push for a game between master
Speaker 1: Chief and Doom Guy, but Secret Level. The Secret Level
Speaker 1: producers had initially a approached Microsoft to do a master
Speaker 1: Chief and Deemslayer episode and they said no. I feel
Speaker 1: like at this point, why would you say no, Like
Speaker 1: just any kind of buzz for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I take a forward thinking that does launched
Speaker 2: Xbox at the top of the heap.
Speaker 1: Like you would have thought that after fallout. I get
Speaker 1: that there's a way to make this totally go wrong,
Speaker 1: and I get that there's a lot maybe it's just
Speaker 1: a lot of you know in between, like getting the
Speaker 1: whole lore with the two and and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: like oh what things that Master Chief does the Doom
Speaker 1: Slayer does it Like you know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is technically, and I know it's Bethes then Microsoft
Speaker 1: having to like work war and in cohesion with each other,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, it's just I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a wasted opportunity.
Speaker 2: To well, it's a good will gesture that Microsoft doesn't
Speaker 2: want to like trade and or you know, doesn't want
Speaker 2: to like partake of, which makes like I thought Secret
Speaker 2: Level is honestly more of like I guess I didn't
Speaker 2: really think it was supposed to be like an all
Speaker 2: over or like all encompassing like game video game show.
Speaker 2: It always seems a lot more like Sony focused to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was that one, but well.
Speaker 2: There's a few. There's Concord obviously, there's seafoo. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: PlayStation itself, and the others are all like third party stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but yeah, well, I mean I get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, but like primarily a place one or
Speaker 2: it came out in first place. Yeah, but the others
Speaker 2: are all like third party or like way more third party,
Speaker 2: except for like the Outer World two. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: I guess you know that's Microsoft now, but like Nintenda
Speaker 2: didn't partake.
Speaker 1: This at all, and it would surprise because the thing, right.
Speaker 2: Well Microsoft, yeah, they should have should have said, like,
Speaker 2: who do you want.
Speaker 1: Especially because they're already working with Amazon on Fallout, so
Speaker 1: it's like you would have thought they would have just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: go go ahead. The only thing I can think of
Speaker 1: is that they didn't want that to be on there
Speaker 1: and then the series gets canned, and so they didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of faith that people would Maybe they
Speaker 1: didn't think that this would be a big deal, and
Speaker 1: apparently it did well enough to get a season two,
Speaker 1: so maybe season two. I don't know, they'll they'll do something.
Speaker 1: I don't know how far ahead they plan these stories.
Speaker 1: And it's not like that that long. They're what like
Speaker 1: eight ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Some of them are a little longer. But yeah, I didn't,
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't watch it. I know Yen's did
Speaker 2: marginally liked it.
Speaker 1: I guess I watched the pac Man one that was
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, just because it's different.
Speaker 2: But again, it's just like it's like weird bi Microsoft,
Speaker 2: I can't figure out, like how to market themselves, but
Speaker 2: how to generate good will.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, unless you're a fan of their current
Speaker 1: marketing strategy then sure, but that obvious. He has alienated
Speaker 1: the hardcore gamers who should.
Speaker 2: They should have had like a Halo meets Halo where
Speaker 2: it's like the Master Keef of the games with the
Speaker 2: Master tree for the TV show.
Speaker 1: I think people want to forget that the Master.
Speaker 2: Wasn't like terrible. You mean, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Microsoft probably is that it's it got canned, so but hey,
Speaker 1: at least you can be excited about more information on
Speaker 1: the the very likely and perhaps this gets it out
Speaker 1: to developer direct as well the Elder Scrolls four Oblivion remake,
Speaker 1: which you know, this sort of that's sort of like
Speaker 1: a virtuos who's working on it. H In on Real
Speaker 1: five kind of dropped some information and then it got
Speaker 1: leaked in a court document that it's actually happening now.
Speaker 1: A report from MP First says that it is being
Speaker 1: fully remade. Now it's not just a remaster in Unreal five. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they're updating the gameplay systems and stand in a
Speaker 1: sneaky blocking archery, hit reaction and the hood the blocking
Speaker 1: system basically pretty much seems like everything.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And Nathan Hayte is saying this is coming out June
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, so I guess it's a good way
Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, Alder Scrolls five is way
Speaker 1: down the line, so why not? But yeah or sorry
Speaker 1: six six? Yeah, oh my god, a lot of RPGs
Speaker 1: in one year for them.
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, do you like a living I
Speaker 2: hated it, so.
Speaker 1: I did not play that. I played morowin and that
Speaker 1: was the only one.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, that was a good one, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I prefer they remake that one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just it's man, they are really going
Speaker 1: on that train, like if all this stuff comes out
Speaker 1: about Fable out of World two.
Speaker 2: Well and then this it's a good way to keep
Speaker 2: people plugged into a game pass. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like they really brought out the
Speaker 1: big guns for this year, so it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: Just you know, hey, y'all thought last year was the
Speaker 1: year of j RPGs. This year might be the year
Speaker 1: of the Western rpg you know. So we'll see. And
Speaker 1: that's cool because most of the pretty much all that
Speaker 1: stuff is going to be on gay Pass see or
Speaker 1: he would to play. So Microsoft also kind of talked
Speaker 1: about their handheld, but they really just said a bunch
Speaker 1: of fluff about it, honestly, so I don't really feel
Speaker 1: the need to like go over that. The only thing
Speaker 1: that I kind of find interesting, because Phil Spencer has
Speaker 1: talked about making the console and especially the handheld kind
Speaker 1: of opened, is that apparently Valve is putting out a
Speaker 1: third party version of Steam and they're gonna put it
Speaker 1: in these other portable PC gaming things that a level
Speaker 1: of legion go s is going to be the first
Speaker 1: one to offer that, and it's also going to allow
Speaker 1: for that to be I think like one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollars cheaper than the Windows version at launch. So
Speaker 1: that's interesting, Like they're just going head to head on
Speaker 1: with accept on that. And then could that be a
Speaker 1: way that Xbox gets Steam on their handheld is they
Speaker 1: buy this Steam os third party thing from them and
Speaker 1: get it to work that way.
Speaker 2: I think the one of the problems is schem oless.
Speaker 2: And like, let's say a Microsoft device, not like if
Speaker 2: Lenovo makes it or a sus who cares, but like
Speaker 2: Microsoft already sells games on Steam, right, so and they
Speaker 2: want Microsoft wants people to buy their games from their marketplace.
Speaker 2: You can say I was gonna make a higher.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Yeah, they don't have to give them a thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's say five people buy the game on
Speaker 2: you know, Xbox whatever marketplace, and twenty people buy the
Speaker 2: game off Steam. What what makes you more money?
Speaker 1: But if you're buying it to if that helps you
Speaker 1: decide that you want to buy that Xbox handheld because
Speaker 1: then you can play your Xbox games and your Steam
Speaker 1: games all in the the one thing, then, you know,
Speaker 1: and you can then maybe play them on your console
Speaker 1: as well that you already have. It's a good like incentive.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's going to push people to
Speaker 1: buy that thing, but it's it's a nice thing to
Speaker 1: be able to put on the back of the box, right,
Speaker 1: Like this works with all other PC things. I just
Speaker 1: found it interesting because it's like, you know, you were
Speaker 1: talking about how they you know, that would probably never
Speaker 1: make it to where this stuff would work natively, but
Speaker 1: it seems like they are. They're being smart in that, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we know we're gonna have competition. Why not let them
Speaker 1: have a version of our os that people are going
Speaker 1: to want to use and make money that way.
Speaker 2: Just wait until like Mircosoft plays Office on Steam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that would be the day we've gone full
Speaker 1: you know, one to eighty on that for sure.
Speaker 2: Scheme occasionally just sell like I mean, there is an
Speaker 2: app store kind of on Steam like a software store
Speaker 2: or it says no one ever cares about it.
Speaker 1: Right, Going to cutting to Ubisoft for a second, because
Speaker 1: the Sony stuff is really just announcements that one of them.
Speaker 1: I really don't know why we're doing it, but whatever.
Speaker 2: Stuff like the two things, I like they're making a
Speaker 2: ghost of Sushima anime. I figured that that.
Speaker 1: That I think is great like it's coming twenty twenty
Speaker 1: seven obviously any Plex Sony Studio and they own Crunchy Roles,
Speaker 1: so that they're working together on that. That's gonna be cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you I hope it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the multiplayer version of it and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a or is it just a way to
Speaker 1: introduce different versions of different Ghosts or is it not
Speaker 1: a version?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know what they do, like get through
Speaker 2: the Origin Store, not even Origin to say, you know,
Speaker 2: here's the game in anime form.
Speaker 1: Wells, I mean it's named after the multiplayer thing that
Speaker 1: they added, it's not just named Ghosts of Sushima. So
Speaker 1: it like it makes me wonder are they doing it
Speaker 1: because they're gonna lie they're gonna have like a original
Speaker 1: character that you're then gonna they're gonna model this after
Speaker 1: so that maybe that's like a third ghost they could
Speaker 1: use for another game down the line or something if
Speaker 1: it gets poppular. Perhaps.
Speaker 2: But the other thing was they announced Horizons there a
Speaker 2: Dawn movie and a Hell Divers to movie, and I
Speaker 2: really hope that it's just called Hell Divers too.
Speaker 1: I feel like you can't, right, you have to call
Speaker 1: it hell divers something because.
Speaker 2: What's two in Spanish dose? Yeah, yeah, held Avers does
Speaker 2: part two again? Yeah, held Avery seems dumb, just you know,
Speaker 2: as I mean the starts with troopers. Just get Casper
Speaker 2: van Deen and you know, try to down as much
Speaker 2: as possible. The Horizon one is a funny, funny thing
Speaker 2: to me because you can't compress that story into two
Speaker 2: hours or you know, three hours, and they're they already
Speaker 2: failed the TV show.
Speaker 1: Technically, that's not their fault. They just got the wrong
Speaker 1: show winner for that.
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I don't subscribe to a lot of
Speaker 2: like the you know, the usual weird internet in cell crap,
Speaker 2: but I've seen people popping up with like why are
Speaker 2: they trying trying to make Horizon zero Dawn this like
Speaker 2: big thing?
Speaker 1: I mean it is a big thing for them, and
Speaker 1: how they like major sales?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the first one did, but no, I
Speaker 2: mean like they keep trying to like force like Aloy
Speaker 2: or you know, like the whole thing to be like
Speaker 2: this bigger property than it is.
Speaker 1: And they made a big deal about Lego in the
Speaker 1: press release.
Speaker 2: Yeah didn't do very Yeah, like that game kind of
Speaker 2: sucked and it's not like the character like maybe doesn't
Speaker 2: deserve it, but it's like they keep they're like trying
Speaker 2: to like force it along a little too quickly, and
Speaker 2: it's like a little too artificial. You know.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: So you know, hey, more Horizon is fine, but it
Speaker 2: has at least one VR game, if not maybe two,
Speaker 2: or at least.
Speaker 1: I had the one, right, they try to sell VR
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: Right, it's going to have that new online game that yeah.
Speaker 1: That game.
Speaker 2: It's like, yo, dogs, this property. Can't this franchise like
Speaker 2: can't support all this other it's useless shit based off
Speaker 2: like two games. Yeah, so like I don't that. That's
Speaker 2: kind of where I was kind of on Horizon, Like
Speaker 2: if they make the third one, cool, I'll probably play it.
Speaker 1: Oh that's you know, they make it.
Speaker 2: But it's better than the second one. But then, like
Speaker 2: you know, looking at the Horizon is like, this is
Speaker 2: our third Tiller or you know, one of our main killers.
Speaker 2: It's I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it sells well enough for them. It's obviously
Speaker 1: not going to sell a Spider Man or you know,
Speaker 1: God of War numbers, but it still sells pretty well.
Speaker 1: For the two times that has released. It went up
Speaker 1: against Bohemos right, and got overshadowed in the press. But still,
Speaker 1: you know, it's I give them credit for trying, but
Speaker 1: it's just like, are you really going to do the
Speaker 1: same story again just in movie for and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. People like that, right, people. It has
Speaker 1: been shown that if you do a property of the
Speaker 1: game of the of another proverty of it, people will
Speaker 1: buy the game, which is obviously what why they made
Speaker 1: a remaster and everything else, right, But man, I.
Speaker 2: Think the other problem is it hasn't kind of proven
Speaker 2: time and time again, is that video games are much
Speaker 2: more suited for TV.
Speaker 1: Ship that I agree, unless you're and.
Speaker 2: I said, something simple like Mario or you can get
Speaker 2: you know, Detective Peak if you can get away with it,
Speaker 2: because it's like a relatively simple story. But something that
Speaker 2: you know is like eight hours of cut scenes and
Speaker 2: Assassin's Creed or you know, the Two Man or Ambers.
Speaker 2: They forget it.
Speaker 1: That's why Pokemon has the whole animey, right, and then
Speaker 1: they just make movies based off the same.
Speaker 2: And even speak it too like there wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 2: kind of based on the game, but not really. But
Speaker 2: that worked out well enough because it was just they
Speaker 2: gave a relatively simple story. Horizon is not a simple
Speaker 2: goddamn story, you know.
Speaker 1: Like no, exactly. Yeah, you better get ready for like
Speaker 1: at least a two and a half hour, three hour movie, right,
Speaker 1: you know, but they can't make it cool. There's gonna
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of action with
Speaker 1: the robot dinosaurs and all that stuff that'llanger, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you know they'll try to do Horizon two. Or aren't
Speaker 1: they didn't they greenlet another unchartered movie or am I
Speaker 1: just imagining?
Speaker 2: I think they did initially, But I think Tom Holland
Speaker 2: is like too busy or you know, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom Hollins at that point where he keeps saying
Speaker 1: that he's like he keeps putting things in the way
Speaker 1: where he says, like the moment I have kids, that's it,
Speaker 1: I'm retiring, calling to John Cena, like.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm retiring at forty five, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you invest money well enough, he
Speaker 1: definitely could, I guess.
Speaker 2: And he's been kind of going for the past like
Speaker 2: ten years or you know, right, so he deserves a break.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna criticize him or anything for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the cool thing with hold Ivers, like
Speaker 1: you said, they already have. They they nailed the the
Speaker 1: what makes the game fun and the story part fun
Speaker 1: in the game. So let's see if they can stretch
Speaker 1: that out into a one and a half hour movie.
Speaker 1: I'd imagine they're not going to try to make that
Speaker 1: really long.
Speaker 2: What they should what they're gonna do. What they should
Speaker 2: do is I think they should play Horizon to be straight.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, definitely, that's gonna be what they.
Speaker 2: Should do with Hell Divers too, is make it like
Speaker 2: Kronor or you know Jumanji delayed Jumanji's where it's okay
Speaker 2: a guy or a group of friends get stuck into
Speaker 2: this game, and not to kill the bugs in the robots.
Speaker 1: So you're saying we should just make it a Nissa cut, Okay,
Speaker 1: pretty much. You know, Sony has a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of history with that. Moving on to UBISOFTS, they're
Speaker 1: not starting things on a good note. But this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they announced randomly this week that on on Twitter
Speaker 1: on social media that they are delaying Sassage Creet Shadows
Speaker 1: uh due to wanting to get more player feedback. I
Speaker 1: also feel like, you know, I was talking with Jordan
Speaker 1: and or my buddy over the Outer Haven. He covers
Speaker 1: a lot of soft stuff and he's saying that I
Speaker 1: think they also did it to kind of get out
Speaker 1: of February, because February is pretty stacked, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised, honestly, Like once Monster Hunter comes out, there
Speaker 1: will be a lot of people that are not going
Speaker 1: to be playing Assassine. I mean there is there would
Speaker 1: be enough gap between Assassage Creed Shadows and Monster Hunter
Speaker 1: coming out that you could end. You could finish out
Speaker 1: Shadows maybe and then you know, go on to play
Speaker 1: Monster Hunter if you like both those games. But I
Speaker 1: if that extra month helps them, or extra month and
Speaker 1: a half helps them make the game better, then they
Speaker 1: have to get this right. This could not fail. If
Speaker 1: this fails, this is.
Speaker 2: Really really their make or break. So just breaks it
Speaker 2: goes yea who We Saw you know?
Speaker 1: And then in typical Assassaine Creed fashion, the DLC already
Speaker 1: leaked for the first DLC expansion for Shadows.
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought you're gonna say typical who We
Speaker 2: Saw Fashion? Shadows is releasing on a day of into
Speaker 2: me in.
Speaker 1: Japan, that too, I mean also releasing the same day.
Speaker 1: It's in a big chronicle sex.
Speaker 2: I think there's something like massacre or some tragedy that
Speaker 2: happened in Japan like thirty years ago that oh lord,
Speaker 2: it took the same day.
Speaker 1: Yep, you could typically do that just one right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I still got pre ordered, got a
Speaker 2: free code.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I hope the game wants to being good man.
Speaker 1: I would hate to see us off just go down
Speaker 1: in a you know fire like that, with like even
Speaker 1: Assassin's Creed failing. Like, uh, there's developers that don't need
Speaker 1: to maybe uh, you know, the figureheads need to suffer
Speaker 1: a little bit, which they already are, but the developers
Speaker 1: really don't need any more layoffs and any more craft
Speaker 1: that they already have to deal with.
Speaker 2: So yeah, look, I don't developers. Yeah, I blame the
Speaker 2: people at the top or you know people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. It's just I'm glad that they got them
Speaker 1: to delay it. You know, the first time they got
Speaker 1: into the lay apparently the devs wanted it, so maybe
Speaker 1: they pushed them again to uh, you know, delay more
Speaker 1: so that the game will come out well, but uh yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes there. So the rest of
Speaker 1: this stuff is not like news. We're probably gonna spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time on, but we can get through
Speaker 1: it quickly. The Elder Ring Night Ring technical test sign
Speaker 1: ups are out there. They're happening on Valentine's Day night
Speaker 1: morning for people seven pm to ten pm or three
Speaker 1: Pacific three am to six am. I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: they're doing this thing, and then also eleven am to
Speaker 1: two the next day on the fifteenth, and then the
Speaker 1: sixteenth they're also doing it at a weird hour of
Speaker 1: like three to six am, and then also seven pm
Speaker 1: to ten pm. I guess to also allow for Japanese
Speaker 1: players to be able to play during like non work hours,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. Also, I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you said you're not excited because you can't even
Speaker 1: do a two player co.
Speaker 2: Op, but I mean he's saying technicalist anyway, So I
Speaker 2: won't do this, but with them to what I.
Speaker 1: Think it'll do well, I would imagine.
Speaker 2: That I'm not just going to crash all over the places.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah people, so oh yeah. People just go in
Speaker 1: nuts for that game and they definitely enjoy that splash damage.
Speaker 1: Which are the London studio behind Gears Tactics wolf as
Speaker 1: signing me Territory, and they were also working on a
Speaker 1: Transformers game, Transformers Reactivate. They had to suffer some layoffs.
Speaker 1: They're a ten set studio and you know, they had
Speaker 1: just they it's not been that long that they announced
Speaker 1: this game. It's December twenty twenty two. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: be a one to four player co op action game
Speaker 1: for both PC and console, and because of them losing
Speaker 1: some of the workforce, they had to cancel the game.
Speaker 1: So that kind of sucks, kind of bummer.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Transformers' license is weird, let's say, yeah,
Speaker 2: over the place. But I've been interested possibly in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering if you were going to be
Speaker 1: kind of bummed about it or not.
Speaker 2: I honestly don't have a ton of like nostalgia or
Speaker 2: love for Transformers as a property or a you know, franchise.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've played a few of those games and
Speaker 2: they were Okay. I like these Fours a whole lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Beast Wars. Watching that on Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: See that's a that's like an age thing because like
Speaker 2: you and I are around the same age, so we
Speaker 2: watched like These Fours was like our our our Transformer show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I got a buddy who's like five years older,
Speaker 2: and he's all about like generation one Transformers, you know,
Speaker 2: the old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the original eighties show.
Speaker 2: I've watch I tried to watch it, and it's like, yo,
Speaker 2: I don't like this.
Speaker 1: At all, you know, or I watched it on Was
Speaker 1: it like when Cartoon Network and Boomerang would show like
Speaker 1: the old shows and stuff, right, Yeah, obviously I've only
Speaker 1: seen like the movie, you know, the movie, which is
Speaker 1: amazing obviously, but that's something to see. That was a
Speaker 1: Transformers one, Yeah, the recent one, yeah, Apple, which this
Speaker 1: is kind of older news. This has been a thing
Speaker 1: that they reported this, but they are stopping production of
Speaker 1: the Vision pro. Who knew people weren't gonna sit there
Speaker 1: and spend three five hundred dollars on a mixed reality headset.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that like barely anyone cared about in the first place.
Speaker 1: And also again, people do not want to use this
Speaker 1: thing to work or to be around their house, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like the two functional things that they want
Speaker 1: this to happen so bad, And it's like I know,
Speaker 1: y'all want Ready Player one to happen like quick, but
Speaker 1: it's just I don't think we're gonna get to that
Speaker 1: world even in maybe even in my daughter's lifetime and
Speaker 1: it doesn't be.
Speaker 2: Boring and real show up and then we'll be all said, it's.
Speaker 1: Like, let me tell you. But I guess it does
Speaker 1: show that Apple is not bulletproof. There are certain things
Speaker 1: that people will not buy from Apple.
Speaker 2: So yeah, doesn't extend that deep.
Speaker 1: Apparently, Yeah, people at least watch their money that far.
Speaker 1: Sonic the Hedgehogs movie Friends have passed a billion dollars
Speaker 1: at the global box office, which is amazing for that.
Speaker 1: You know, look, Marto did that really quick. But for
Speaker 1: Sonic Sonics Films to do that cumulatively and do well
Speaker 1: every single time really has been like a boon for
Speaker 1: the to show that video game movies can be good
Speaker 1: if you do them right and do them justice. And
Speaker 1: that's great. Like over three hundred million globally for each
Speaker 1: one at least, and what is it the one that's
Speaker 1: out right now, you know, it's three hundred and twelve
Speaker 1: so far, so it could it's definitely gonna probably already
Speaker 1: surpassed the first one, and I want to be surprised
Speaker 1: if I surpasses the second one. Uh, in due time,
Speaker 1: as well. So, and and it does well when it
Speaker 1: goes out to the DVD and Blu ray and stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and all the merchandise craft or you know,
Speaker 2: all that stuff adds to it.
Speaker 1: So I will you know, look, uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: games are what they are. Some people, you know, you've
Speaker 1: really you liked Frontiers, and.
Speaker 2: I have the correct opinion on the games.
Speaker 1: You haven't. You haven't played the most recent one, right,
Speaker 1: the well that's like a remake, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew, Well I ain't a remake. They just
Speaker 2: bothed more general bolted chattle levels in the generations.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought they like remastered it and then
Speaker 1: added shadow.
Speaker 2: Master in a bad game, So it's like, why why bother?
Speaker 1: Hey, now people like that so well? So U that
Speaker 1: that putting Keanu Reeves in there with that DLC I
Speaker 1: think definitely helped on that. Also. I forgot I should
Speaker 1: have mentioned, Say were talking about movies, but Yoshin Rika
Speaker 1: Toss Say was asked about, Hey, you know, we know
Speaker 1: you're remaking that whole seven trilogy in game form, but
Speaker 1: I mean it's been a while, It's been twenty years
Speaker 1: since Avant Children. What do you think about a file
Speaker 1: place is seven movie, and he says that, you know,
Speaker 1: he keeps hearing about creators that would be very interested
Speaker 1: and making another File Place seven movie, and he'd love
Speaker 1: to see it happen. Didn't want to tease anything, obviously,
Speaker 1: because then people start saying that, oh my god, the
Speaker 1: movie is happening.
Speaker 2: Did advent Children did not see spirits within?
Speaker 1: Okay, spiritual thing with so much worse than ava Children
Speaker 1: and Avan Children makes more sense. Actually, I feel like
Speaker 1: this whole remake is to make Avan Children make sense.
Speaker 1: It's to like trying to make Avaan Children make more sense.
Speaker 2: How the third part ends, the last two hours is
Speaker 2: advant Children. Here you go, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like you want the actual ending, go watch Avat Children.
Speaker 2: No, it'll be a children and occasion me a QT
Speaker 2: will pop up to make sure you're paying attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't, the right.
Speaker 2: Crashed out or you failed.
Speaker 1: Look, I would love anything fest. I mean, I really
Speaker 1: liked that alternate take on the the anime that they
Speaker 1: made for the nebel Him incident that apparently was decided
Speaker 1: not Cannon because.
Speaker 2: It's or crisis or it's it's.
Speaker 1: Like the Zach. It's the Zach version of what happened,
Speaker 1: and then like because of the way that brought dies
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, last order they had like uncannoned it,
Speaker 1: but it was cool because it was like a different take,
Speaker 1: you know, on things. So but I'm all for like
Speaker 1: whenever after Remade Part three comes out, whatever they want
Speaker 1: to do, like extended that's not a game, or even
Speaker 1: if they do spin offs, I'm happy with it. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they will continue to milk it until there is
Speaker 1: nothing left because you know, let's be honest, it's winning awards,
Speaker 1: it's doing doing business. They're putting it on other platforms
Speaker 1: because they know it's what they have, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's what people are enjoying out of and you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, look that they really do need to find
Speaker 1: a game that can use that combat system outside of
Speaker 1: Hop Fancy seven remake or even put it in seventeen
Speaker 1: or something like. I would love to see that combat system.
Speaker 2: The Threads of Fate remaster remake, and.
Speaker 1: Lastly, something that I know bothers you because you like
Speaker 1: getting the physical games. Video game revenue in the UK
Speaker 1: dropped four point four percent in twenty twenty four, with
Speaker 1: the main driver being the collapse of physical media with
Speaker 1: a big drop of thirty five over twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: which that's nothing to shake a stick at. It's not
Speaker 1: really anything like New know that they're going in this direction,
Speaker 1: but it is interesting to see like just the decline
Speaker 1: of it continued to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it was a rumor like last year
Speaker 2: that that game retailer was miss top selling physical games,
Speaker 2: and they quickly said, like, no, that's not true. But
Speaker 2: it doesn't help, you know, if it's a shaky marketplace.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to use games or like how
Speaker 2: because around here, like a game will come out and
Speaker 2: it's in like two months, it'll probably dis kind of physically, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean depends on the game. But that that Shadow
Speaker 2: Signic and Shattow game, you can get that like forty
Speaker 2: bucks digit physically if you hunt around.
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't like a Dragon was twenty five
Speaker 1: yeah for a while pretty quick.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if if price like trace like
Speaker 2: that in the UK, but there has to be some
Speaker 2: incentive in the UK or for you know, for game
Speaker 2: retailers should want to sell physical and it's usually not
Speaker 2: anymore so it's yeah, usually.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it feels like Nintendo is like the
Speaker 1: last bastion of propping that up because they don't do
Speaker 1: sales on their games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's.
Speaker 1: Really the reason why people going by physical because even
Speaker 1: that which I don't know if they still have it
Speaker 1: or not, that ten dollars deal that you get at Walmart,
Speaker 1: that's a huge driver because you never get sales on
Speaker 1: it today and if they go on sale, it's like
Speaker 1: twenty bucks off. And like if we're talking about Breath
Speaker 1: of the Wild, which is a twenty seventeen game, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about it being twenty bucks off, right, and
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, that should be one of those they
Speaker 1: used to do it. I don't know why they don't
Speaker 1: do it for the Switch. Well I know why they
Speaker 1: do it, conceivable buy it anyway, But that Platinum series
Speaker 1: or whatever they used to do that they make the
Speaker 1: game twenty bucks or whatever after a while, like that
Speaker 1: should happen. I wish that would happen a lot sooner
Speaker 1: because I could actually try out there. I could actually
Speaker 1: play their games more because I feel like I have to.
Speaker 1: I have to, Like really, it makes me not want
Speaker 1: to rush and like get the game at launch most
Speaker 1: of the time because I'm like, this game's never going
Speaker 1: on sale, so like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you'll get that Geno Blade Chronicles X thing
Speaker 2: when it comes out. Yeah, possibly even if they make
Speaker 2: some dumb collectors version of it.
Speaker 1: No, I won't get the collectors. I'll get the I
Speaker 1: don't think they're charging for the DALC thing, it seems like,
Speaker 1: but I don't know.
Speaker 2: But you'll get Yeah, you'll get that when it comes out,
Speaker 2: simply because like that will never go on never go
Speaker 2: on sale, or if it does, would be like five bucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when there's other game, like it's a it's
Speaker 1: a kind of a catch twenty two right of Okay,
Speaker 1: I know it's never going on sales, so I might
Speaker 1: as well buy it now because it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: I wait till Black Friday. They'll most likely they will
Speaker 1: put other games that I don't care about on sale
Speaker 1: and not that one, So might as well just buying now,
Speaker 1: like Dock Ygong Country Returns. I'm really thinking about it
Speaker 1: because I love Donkey Kong Country and I have I
Speaker 1: never played the Wei game, and I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: mean it's not like they're gonna put it on sale
Speaker 1: that one. Maybe because I have seen they put Tropical
Speaker 1: Freeze on sale sometimes, but considering how much they're hypied
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong. It feels like with the Nintendo Theme Park
Speaker 1: thing and they put all the DONKEYOK games on Switch
Speaker 1: Online and all that stuff probably won't go on sale
Speaker 1: for a while, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: The fact that, like Mario Honesty is still a forty
Speaker 2: eight dollars game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 2: Or I think let me check that the Wild that's
Speaker 2: probably fifty You people are nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like, I'm sure they're gonna at least
Speaker 1: charge fifty for that remaster and they don't charge the
Speaker 1: full seventy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, brun To the Wild is forty nine bucks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's out eight years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the switch exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's I think it for this week. As far
Speaker 1: as the news goes, there is, like I mentioned before,
Speaker 1: there is some games coming out to pay attention to.
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Kna Ke Kong Country Returns HD comes
Speaker 1: out on the sixteen, which is you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: if the Switch To gets revealed that day or not. Also,
Speaker 1: the other kind of big game, I guess you can
Speaker 1: call it that as Dynasty Warriors Origins, which is getting
Speaker 1: some decent reviews, so you know, we're checking out if
Speaker 1: you've like Dynasty Warriors but you haven't played it in
Speaker 1: a while. I've heard good things. It's getting, you know,
Speaker 1: good scores. Also from last week, Freedom War is remastered,
Speaker 1: which that one apparently is not getting great press. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but but at least it's out there for the people
Speaker 1: that wanted to be able to have that available. The
Speaker 1: newest Sostetto Corza is also out on the sixteenth as well.
Speaker 1: A cool metro Vania you Might be Iner in Mark
Speaker 1: blake Kaimira indie game on PC and Switch comes out
Speaker 1: on the sixteen too. I keep seeing hearing a lot
Speaker 1: of good things about that. Also more kills for gas Rage.
Speaker 1: He kind of looks like the skull guy from that
Speaker 1: other roguelock you played not too long ago, but it's
Speaker 1: like a platformer and he has cool powers, so that
Speaker 1: one looks decent as well. That also comes out on
Speaker 1: the sixteenth, and the Troll's Tells the Graces f remastered.
Speaker 1: Bean on Namco said they're going to remaster a lot
Speaker 1: of these Tales games, if not this year, just in
Speaker 1: the future.
Speaker 2: So it's simpler than making new one.
Speaker 1: So I mean to be fair, arise, it's pretty great,
Speaker 1: so I mean.
Speaker 2: But I mean that also took a long as while, so.
Speaker 1: I just hate that the DLC came out so long
Speaker 1: after I did not care at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all right, I have to really learn how
Speaker 2: to play the game now exactly.
Speaker 1: And the sequel to that Ender Lili's game also comes
Speaker 1: out in a week or so as well. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've been that that Ender Magnolia Bloom in
Speaker 1: the miss. So, yeah, this is this January is not, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like last year where you had some huge games.
Speaker 1: They definitely are giving us a break in January this year,
Speaker 1: and if anything, they're the bigger games, the ones with
Speaker 1: like more note are coming out at the dead end
Speaker 1: of the month really as we lead into the the
Speaker 1: big month that it's February. So when we get to that,
Speaker 1: we'll have some games to play, because I am kind
Speaker 1: of excited for that Eternal Strands game that's gonna be
Speaker 1: on Game Pass or whatever. But we'll see until then, everybody,
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