Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVZ Boston's new video.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much to call. As we start off
Speaker 2: a Wednesday night, the night after the great twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four in the minds of some people presidential debate, we
Speaker 2: will we will get to that a little bit later
Speaker 2: on tonight. I promise you that we will go back
Speaker 2: to our regularly scheduled program, at least our regular format. Tonight.
Speaker 2: We're going to have four interesting topics to discuss during
Speaker 2: the eight o'clock hour. No phone calls necessary, but we
Speaker 2: will continue on as the evening goes on, and we
Speaker 2: will talk about nine to eleven. And my concern is
Speaker 2: that slowly but surely nine to eleven is receiving in
Speaker 2: our collective memory, and I think that is going to
Speaker 2: be an increasing problem for us, because again, we must
Speaker 2: never forget what happened that day, in the horror of
Speaker 2: that day. We'll talk about that at nine o'clock. We
Speaker 2: will also talk about at ten o'clock the fallout or
Speaker 2: lack of fallout from the debate. And one of the
Speaker 2: questions I want to ask tonight at ten o'clock is
Speaker 2: did anyone have their mind changed? I gave you my
Speaker 2: take on the debate last night. I thought that Vice
Speaker 2: President Harris carried the night, carried the night pretty easily.
Speaker 2: From my perspective. I thought some of the responses of
Speaker 2: former President Trump were mind boggling. The dogs and cats
Speaker 2: story out of Ohio. We'll get to all of that
Speaker 2: at ten o'clock, but we are going to do our
Speaker 2: news Update hour, and we're going to start off with
Speaker 2: a regular, a person who stops by here periodically, Massachusetts
Speaker 2: Republican State Senator Bruce TARRP Senator Tar Welcome back to night'side.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Dan, Thanks, how are you good?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: I know you've been doing a lot of work up
Speaker 2: there on the beach and erosion, and I know that
Speaker 2: was a real focus through much of the summer months
Speaker 2: for you. Give me a quick update on how that
Speaker 2: all stands at this point, where what has what progress
Speaker 2: has been made, because I do believe some progress has
Speaker 2: been made.
Speaker 3: Well, we've actually made a lot of progress, Stan, and
Speaker 3: I want to express my appreciation for your helping us
Speaker 3: to get the word out about our project and what
Speaker 3: we've been trying to do. As we stand right now,
Speaker 3: we are in the final planning and permitting stages of
Speaker 3: a one point seventy five million dollar beach nourishment project,
Speaker 3: which is going to help us to elevate the profile
Speaker 3: of the dune system, create more sustainability for the beach,
Speaker 3: and help us to protect a lot of valuable natural
Speaker 3: resources and physical infrastructure like Route one A and the
Speaker 3: Great Marsh that lies behind Route one A, as well
Speaker 3: as a lot of the homes and bus businesses that
Speaker 3: are in that area. So we made tremendous progress, and
Speaker 3: thanks go to Governor Healy for stepping up to the
Speaker 3: plate and making available that one point seventy five million
Speaker 3: dollars and DCR Commissioner Brian Arrigo who has been working
Speaker 3: with us every step of the way to make that
Speaker 3: kind of progress. And Dan we're hoping to begin the
Speaker 3: project sometime in October, so it's coming up very soon.
Speaker 2: Now. Is that just one beachfront or are there more
Speaker 2: beaches that are impacted?
Speaker 3: No, Salisbury Beach is one continuous beachfront, and this will
Speaker 3: cover a lot of it, not all of it, but
Speaker 3: a lot of it, responding to the parts of the
Speaker 3: beach that are in the most serious condition.
Speaker 2: Okay, and from a time point of view, Obviously, no
Speaker 2: one knows what the weather forecast is going to be
Speaker 2: like a week from now. We see what's going on
Speaker 2: down in the Gulf Coast region tonight. You think that
Speaker 2: that you're on pretty good schedule to get this done
Speaker 2: in time at least for the winter season.
Speaker 3: Well, we certainly would have liked to have had it
Speaker 3: done sooner, but there are a lot of obstacles to
Speaker 3: that that we've had to overcome. Generally speaking, Dan, in
Speaker 3: the summer, we are in an accretive pattern where we
Speaker 3: actually gain sand, and some of that has happened over
Speaker 3: this summer. But once we get past Labor Day, we're
Speaker 3: in a vulnerable position and we begin to worry about
Speaker 3: storms like the ones that we're seeing threatening Louisiana. So
Speaker 3: obviously we need to get this done as soon as possible.
Speaker 3: But everyone's working very hard to make sure that we
Speaker 3: get the project done. And one of the important elements
Speaker 3: of it, Dan, is that we have to secure easements
Speaker 3: from a lot of the property owners because this project
Speaker 3: is truly public and private. Some of the sand is
Speaker 3: going to go on private property, some of the sand
Speaker 3: is going to go on public property. But the point
Speaker 3: is the dune straddles that property line, and to do
Speaker 3: this project right, everybody's got to work together because it's
Speaker 3: one system that we're repairing. So right now, town officials
Speaker 3: in Salisbury are working very hard to secure those easements.
Speaker 3: A lot of them have been secured, and credit goes
Speaker 3: there to the two organizations that are working with us,
Speaker 3: the Salisbury Beach Betterment Association and the Salisbury Beach Citizens
Speaker 3: for Change, who are helping to secure those easements, as
Speaker 3: well as one of the great unsung heroes in all
Speaker 3: of this effort, Adrian Marshand, who is the conservation agent
Speaker 3: for the Town of Salisbury. But this is an all
Speaker 3: hands on deck exercise, Dan, and we're pulling together and
Speaker 3: hopefully very soon we'll be moving sand on the beach.
Speaker 2: Well, it's good to know that Republicans and Democrats, everyone
Speaker 2: can work together saving a beach, saving Salisbury Beach. But
Speaker 2: in addition to that, I guess you've had some success
Speaker 2: on another issue, which is the one we really need
Speaker 2: to talk about tonight. And this is an act relative
Speaker 2: to the use of elephants, big cats, primates, giraffes, and
Speaker 2: bears in traveling exhibits and shows. This basically I think
Speaker 2: says to all of these traveling events circuses, you can
Speaker 2: come and you can put on your shows, but you
Speaker 2: can't use elephants, lions, tigers, bears, giraffes and other animals
Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts. How did this come to pass?
Speaker 3: Well, it's actually a very good news story, Dan, and
Speaker 3: that's why I was very eager to share it with
Speaker 3: you tonight, because I know about your interest animal welfare,
Speaker 3: and again you've helped us get the word out about
Speaker 3: this bill, and Massachusetts has a great legacy in terms
Speaker 3: of our animal welfare laws. I actually began working on
Speaker 3: this one with the first filing of the bill way
Speaker 3: back in twenty nineteen, and we have filed it since then.
Speaker 3: But like most pieces of legislation, Dan, we had to
Speaker 3: work through it. We had to evolve the language because
Speaker 3: we wanted to preserve the opportunity for organizations that offer
Speaker 3: permanent exhibits. A lot of the zoos, the Franklin Park Zoo,
Speaker 3: the Stone Zoo. One of the great heroes in this
Speaker 3: discussion have been the folks at Southwick Zoo, a family
Speaker 3: owned operation, who've worked very hard with us to get
Speaker 3: the language right and to make sure that we can
Speaker 3: preserve those opportunities for people to go and see these
Speaker 3: kinds of animals. But what we did want to do
Speaker 3: is prohibit traveling animal acts because there's an incredible body
Speaker 3: of evidence that when these animals that are named in
Speaker 3: the bill, and you've listed some of them, are subjected
Speaker 3: to the conditions of traveling, it's very harmful to them,
Speaker 3: both psychologically and physically. And that's why it was appropriate
Speaker 3: for Massachusetts to enact the ban. And that's exactly what
Speaker 3: happened after all these years on August ninth, when Governor
Speaker 3: Healy signed the bill.
Speaker 4: So even though you were not in formal session, I
Speaker 4: assume this means there was no objection from anyone on
Speaker 4: either side of the aisle, and that was what got
Speaker 4: this bill on the governor's desk.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question, Dan, and it's got a
Speaker 3: multiple part answer. So the bill actually got passed in
Speaker 3: the last day of the formal legislative session back on
Speaker 3: July thirty first, where not a lot got done on
Speaker 3: Beacon Hill, but certainly this bill did get done. But importantly,
Speaker 3: the bill received unanimous votes in the House and the Senate.
Speaker 3: And this was just another example of how we can
Speaker 3: roll up our sleeves and work together still in the
Speaker 3: Massachusetts legislature and get something done. And credit goes to
Speaker 3: all of the folks that worked on this. We had
Speaker 3: twenty four co sponsors on our bill, and the House
Speaker 3: Representative Brad Jones, the House Minority Leader, and Representative Fiola
Speaker 3: were co presenters of the House version of the bill.
Speaker 3: And in the Senate we also had a similar bill
Speaker 3: that was filed by Senator Adam Gomez from Springfield. So
Speaker 3: a lot of bipartisan interest here, Dan, and there has
Speaker 3: been historically a lot of bipartisan work on animal welfare
Speaker 3: laws in Massachusetts, and once again that by part is
Speaker 3: an effort. Delivered this bill to the Governor's desk and
Speaker 3: the governor signed it, and with that we joined at
Speaker 3: least ten other states that have enacted similar bands, and
Speaker 3: incredibly a number of municipalities. Over two hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: seven states have enacted these kind of bands, and in
Speaker 3: Massachusetts just a couple of them are Topsfield and Wilmington
Speaker 3: and others as well. So, Dan, this is an idea
Speaker 3: that I think has benefited from broad consensus, and once
Speaker 3: again we were able to get it to the governor's
Speaker 3: desk and now it's the law and the commonwealth.
Speaker 2: Well that sounds great. Congratulations to you, Senator. I know
Speaker 2: oftentimes things don't go smoothly up on Beacon Hill, but
Speaker 2: this is one that has gone smoothly on Beacon Hill.
Speaker 2: And it looks as if Salsbury Beach, through your efforts
Speaker 2: in the office of a lot of other people up
Speaker 2: there I have banned together and maybe that Beach is
Speaker 2: going to avoid what could have been a disastrous result
Speaker 2: if nothing had been done in a timely fashion. So
Speaker 2: thanks so much for being available late at night or
Speaker 2: you know, for late at night for folks like you
Speaker 2: who get up early in the morning and work up
Speaker 2: on Beacon Hill or in the district. Congratulations and let's
Speaker 2: have more of it here in Massachusetts. Thanks so much, Senator.
Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, look very much forward to more of this.
Speaker 3: And just credit to a couple of people, my chiefest
Speaker 3: deputy chief of staff and legal counsel her ark Shaw,
Speaker 3: who really led the effort on this on our staff,
Speaker 3: and also Diane Sullivan, a mutual friend of ours, who
Speaker 3: helped to get it done. And look forward to talking
Speaker 3: about more of these kind of collaborative efforts.
Speaker 2: The Great Diane Sullivan the assistant dean at the Massachusetts
Speaker 2: School of Law and the founder of the Shadow Fund,
Speaker 2: which is the official charity of Nightside and a charity
Speaker 2: that provides veternaric here to people who cannot afford it.
Speaker 2: And it's all through her efforts. We do nothing other
Speaker 2: than publicize it and maybe make some contributions along the way.
Speaker 2: So Diane Sullivan is, as far as I'm concerned, an
Speaker 2: absolute saint. I really mean that, and you know exactly
Speaker 2: what I mean. She's a wonderful you being. Thanks Bruce.
Speaker 2: We'll talk soon.
Speaker 3: Okay, Thanks, Dan, have a great night.
Speaker 2: You bet you you too, and we come back on
Speaker 2: and talk about baseball road trips. No, not the Red
Speaker 2: Sox road trips, but road trips that more and more
Speaker 2: people are taking who are baseball fans to see other venues,
Speaker 2: other ballparks around the country. The Complete Guide to all
Speaker 2: the Ballparks with beer bites and sights nearby. Author Timothy
Speaker 2: Malcolm will join us on the other side.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: I'm delighted to welcome our next guest, Timothy Malcolm. He's
Speaker 2: a baseball writer and a podcaster, and he loves the
Speaker 2: game of baseball, and he's a Philadelphia guy, so we
Speaker 2: can't hold that against him. But he's written a book,
Speaker 2: Baseball Road Trips, The Complete Guy to All the Ballparks
Speaker 2: with beer bites and sides and sites nearby. Timothy Malcolm,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5: I'm great, Dan, Thanks, And you know Boston's and my Boston's,
Speaker 5: my old stomping grounds. They used to go to school
Speaker 5: in Boston. So where'd you go?
Speaker 2: Where? Where'd you go to? Where were you bu?
Speaker 5: I was there two thousand and two to two thousand
Speaker 5: and six.
Speaker 2: Well, you're a young guy. I graduated from law school
Speaker 2: there back in the last century, so the twentieth century,
Speaker 2: the last century. So yeah, George Sherman Union, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you had some of the delicious meals there, as I
Speaker 2: did many many years ago. Well, so, so, how many
Speaker 2: I assume you've hit all thirty two major League ballparks?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I've been to every major League ballpark, Yes I have.
Speaker 2: And so how did when did when did this this journey?
Speaker 2: This this is almost like a religious experience for people
Speaker 2: like you and me who love baseball. Uh, when did
Speaker 2: this religious experience begin for you. What did you say,
Speaker 2: I'm going to see them all? And it is thirty
Speaker 2: two if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5: Correct, So it's thirty. It's thirty thirty.
Speaker 2: You're right, it's thirty two NFL Stadium. Okay, five thirty,
Speaker 2: you're right. So when did you When did you start?
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you must have must you must have gone,
Speaker 2: I assume as a kid to the Vet when that
Speaker 2: when that ballpark was open in Philadelphia, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that was my childhood ballpark. The Vet.
Speaker 2: You never you never at your age, you never saw
Speaker 2: a shy park or anything like that. I know that.
Speaker 5: So unfortunately, no, yeah, well maybe fortunately, but the Vet,
Speaker 5: you know, concrete, doughnut hold multiple Oh yeah, purfect. I
Speaker 5: That's where I grew up. And you know, I didn't
Speaker 5: realize until it was a little bit older and I
Speaker 5: saw a kid that ballparks were better than the Vet.
Speaker 5: And I actually my dad owned a T shirt with
Speaker 5: Fenway Park on it. It was a Fenway Park T shirt
Speaker 5: and I, when I was a kid, used to see
Speaker 5: that shirt all the time and I loved it so much,
Speaker 5: and I kept saying, I need to get there, I
Speaker 5: need to get there, and I would draw Fenway Park
Speaker 5: from that shirt over and over again, and so I
Speaker 5: finally got the opportunity to go around nineteen ninety nine
Speaker 5: was my first time there, and I was like a
Speaker 5: little kid in the candy store. I just I freaked out.
Speaker 5: And that was kind of the moment that I realized, Man,
Speaker 5: I want to see more of these ballparks. I really
Speaker 5: want to start going on these journeys. And one day
Speaker 5: if I can get to All thirty, amazing, But you know,
Speaker 5: I just want to see as many as I can.
Speaker 5: And so that's how the love of it developed. And
Speaker 5: then along the way I was able to get the
Speaker 5: opportunity to write this book. But Fenway was really the
Speaker 5: beginning of my journey. I like, Fenway is my favorite
Speaker 5: park in the world, so.
Speaker 2: Well many of us in Boston is our famous park
Speaker 2: as well a favorite ballpark as well. So did start
Speaker 2: geographically and stick in the East Coast? Tell us how
Speaker 2: how you came to hit All thirty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so early on, you know, it was East Coast
Speaker 5: art so I Fenway, and then Baltimore, the New York
Speaker 5: parks and all of that whatever was you know, close
Speaker 5: enough to home and at one point I was an adult,
Speaker 5: I was able to take two weeks off and I
Speaker 5: did the huge road trip where I went from Philadelphia
Speaker 5: to New York. I assumed me I lived in New
Speaker 5: York and down to Philadelphia, and then I went all
Speaker 5: the way across to Denver, along the way, hitting Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland,
Speaker 5: and I got to Denver, saw game of Corpfield, and
Speaker 5: I came back around to Saint Louis, Cincinnati, Kansas City,
Speaker 5: and that was a big trip that kind of got
Speaker 5: a lot of the knockout. And then when I finally
Speaker 5: got this book deal several years ago, the first edition,
Speaker 5: I started to okay, I got to get to all
Speaker 5: these other parks, and I did a trip to Florida,
Speaker 5: did Miami in Tampa, went to Arizona knocked down out,
Speaker 5: went to California, and did La San Diego, Anaheim. So
Speaker 5: I started to do them in batches, sort of in
Speaker 5: that kind of road trip style that is in the book.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you I've gone to a lot of
Speaker 2: them over the years. Haven't been to everyone. I've been
Speaker 2: to a lot that now are gone. The Twins Metrodome,
Speaker 2: I went to the Ranger, Rangers Ballpark, which was in Arlington,
Speaker 2: Texas a long long time ago. Kimiski Park, Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: Three River Stadium, the Vet in Philadelphia, up in Montreal
Speaker 2: where the where the Expos play. So I've been to
Speaker 2: a lot of these, all old old barns, but I
Speaker 2: just think it's I think it's it's mind. Uh, it's
Speaker 2: so important to just experience this if you had the
Speaker 2: time and the ability. Okay, real quickly, give us your
Speaker 2: top five other than fen the old Yankee Stadium. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you're not old enough to remember the old Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 2: It's kind of similar to the.
Speaker 5: You what, I went to the old Yankee Citium in
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 2: That was okay, Okay, you're just a kid. That's good.
Speaker 2: So give us your top five currently, your top five
Speaker 2: other than uh, you know, then the Philly the Philadelphia
Speaker 2: or or or or Boston Family Park.
Speaker 5: Sure, so Pecto Park in San Diego, I think is
Speaker 5: the best park that I've been to over a.
Speaker 2: Great, great, great district in the the gas Like district, Beautiful.
Speaker 5: Bull Also, Camden Yards is just such an iconic park
Speaker 5: and and that was one of the first that I
Speaker 5: went to, and that was that's a beauty that still
Speaker 5: holds up today, both both.
Speaker 2: Of them, which were built by the Lake Great Larry
Speaker 2: and Janet Maurice Smith.
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right, that's right, Yeah, Rust and Piece
Speaker 5: Larry Lucino Target Field in Minneapolis. I recently got there
Speaker 5: and I was I was floored how much they have
Speaker 5: and how accessible and affordable it is, and how friendly
Speaker 5: it is for families and things like that.
Speaker 2: Really, the people in Minnesota are the friendliest people in
Speaker 2: the world, you know that, Right's I'm from Minnesota and
Speaker 2: I'm a very friendly person, you know that.
Speaker 5: Well, that's why I said it. Yeah, who else?
Speaker 2: It'd be two more, And I'm going to ask you
Speaker 2: one that one that you haven't mentioned yet.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, sure, Oracle Park in San Francisco, which is
Speaker 5: just incredible. Everybody's got to get there at some point
Speaker 5: in their lives.
Speaker 2: Been there.
Speaker 5: And Wrigley Field in Chicago all that was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have you got to mention Wrigley Field absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So okay, So the book.
Speaker 5: Is now out right, Yes, it's out in stores everywhere, online,
Speaker 5: anywhere you can find books, you can find it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for any baseball fan in your family, This
Speaker 2: is a great book. I'm sure you can get it
Speaker 2: through Amazon. Baseball Road Trips, The Complete Guide to all
Speaker 2: the ballparks with beer bites and sites nearby. Okay, real quickly,
Speaker 2: which ballpark has the best hot dog in your opinion?
Speaker 2: Hot dog in your opinion?
Speaker 5: Chicago's Wrigley Field. The Chicago Dog danced tall above everything else?
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, right.
Speaker 2: Fair enough? Okay? Which which ballpark has the the least
Speaker 2: expensive the most reasonable if you want to have a beer?
Speaker 2: I'm not advocating drink here, but if you're going to
Speaker 2: go to a ball game, you gotta have a dog
Speaker 2: and a beer. So what ballpark had the maybe the
Speaker 2: least expensive and the most expensive for an equivalent amount
Speaker 2: of beer.
Speaker 5: Least expensive Progressive Field in Cleveland, the Jake, and then
Speaker 5: the most expensive. San Francisco's got expensive ones, Dodger Stadium
Speaker 5: and Yankee Stadium. The three of them are kind of
Speaker 5: around the same.
Speaker 2: Are they up? Have they gone past the ten dollars
Speaker 2: a beer barrier in those three ballparks? Oh?
Speaker 5: Are you kidding either? Their past seventeen eighteen dollars a day?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, I'm dating myself here. Oh that's horrible. Oh,
Speaker 2: how many of the parks that you went to out
Speaker 2: of the thirty did you take advantage of a tour
Speaker 2: At Fenway Park, you got to take the tour, you
Speaker 2: get to go inside the Monster and all of that.
Speaker 2: What are there several any of any tours that you
Speaker 2: would recommend, you know, inside these ballparks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't done a ton of the tours, but
Speaker 5: I'll tell you that the Yankees actually have a very
Speaker 5: good tour at their stadium. I mean it's obviously the Yankees.
Speaker 5: The Cardinals have a really good tour and a great
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame museum, maybe the best one at all
Speaker 5: Baseball's really cool. I would also recommend I would recommend
Speaker 5: the Giants. The Giants have a really good tour at Oracle.
Speaker 5: Uh and that goes through all the history as well.
Speaker 5: I mean that's part of it is if they have
Speaker 5: a really long history, you know, they take you through
Speaker 5: and they show you trophies and things like that. That's
Speaker 5: really cool.
Speaker 2: Okay. One final question. Okay, if I say to you, Mahaffey,
Speaker 2: Simmons and Bunning, it's not it's not a law firm.
Speaker 2: Who were they?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well they're well they are Philly Grets is what
Speaker 5: they are. I mean, Hirt Simmons, is it out out?
Speaker 5: Mahaffey and Jim Bunning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I be halfy and Jim Bunny. Absolutely a great
Speaker 2: pitching rotation that in nineteen sixty four just came up short.
Speaker 2: That was one of those years that Phillies fans try
Speaker 2: to repress. So I didn't mean to stir the memory,
Speaker 2: but I just wanted to make sure you really were
Speaker 2: a Phillies fan, even in the years before your birth.
Speaker 5: Okay, oh no, certainly I look paint all the time.
Speaker 5: But this year might be a little different, hopefully for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, this could be the you never know.
Speaker 2: You never know. You got a general manager down there
Speaker 2: that did it in Boston, Dobrowski, so maybe maybe magic
Speaker 2: will strike again. Really enjoyed it, Timothy, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Baseball Road Trips by Timothy Malcolm. It's a great gift,
Speaker 2: by the way, over the holiday season to bring to
Speaker 2: any baseball fan, if you're going to someone's home for
Speaker 2: you know, for Thanksgiving or they celebrate Christmas or or
Speaker 2: whatever holiday they might celebrate. If they're a baseball fan,
Speaker 2: it is universal and it is a gift that that
Speaker 2: people will enjoy reading and they'll enjoy taking it to
Speaker 2: different ballparks with them. Timothy Malcolm, thanks so much again.
Speaker 2: Baseball road Trips by Timothy Malcolm. We'll talk again, my friend.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, thank you, Dan, have a good one.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Okay, we get back when we talk
Speaker 2: about the fact that supposedly two out of five forty
Speaker 2: of gen Z workers are willing to quit their jobs
Speaker 2: their job over political differences with their boss. WHOA, I'll
Speaker 2: tell you, I don't get that, but that's okay. We'll see.
Speaker 2: We'll talk with Attorney Haavi at Perez about that phenomenon
Speaker 2: right after the news here at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, this one kind of stuns me. Of gen Z
Speaker 2: workers are willing to quit their job over political differences
Speaker 2: with their boss with us, as attorney Javi at Perez,
Speaker 2: he's been with us before. Welcome back, Attorney Perez. How
Speaker 2: are you tonight?
Speaker 6: Doing well? Thanks for having me now, jen Z.
Speaker 2: Folks, if I recall correctly, are people who started to
Speaker 2: committo this world nineteen ninety six? Is that? Am I correct?
Speaker 2: They're like after the millennials or or before the millennials.
Speaker 2: Help me out with that.
Speaker 6: That's right, they're post millennial, and I think there is
Speaker 6: an endpoint to that range. And now like my son
Speaker 6: is Jen halfa or something like that about gen that's
Speaker 6: so specifically it's confusing.
Speaker 2: It is so confusing. So essentially, these are folks who
Speaker 2: are relatively new of the workforce. So they go from
Speaker 2: I guess as young as age eighteen and some of
Speaker 2: them could be as old as thirty thirty two, thirty four.
Speaker 5: Correct, that's right.
Speaker 2: Okay, so who figured out that they wanted to run
Speaker 2: some sort of how do we know? It's forty percent
Speaker 2: of them are willing to quit their job because they
Speaker 2: have some sort of a disagreement. When they say, when
Speaker 2: you say the ball, does that mean the personal supervisor
Speaker 2: or do they mean the big company that they work for?
Speaker 6: You know, I don't. I don't think the survey specified,
Speaker 6: but kind of from what we've seen, it could be
Speaker 6: either it could be someone that they see every day,
Speaker 6: or it could be kind of you know, my corporate
Speaker 6: overlords have different political meanings than me.
Speaker 2: Shockingly, so is this normal? I mean, forty percent seems
Speaker 2: to be a little a little out there. I realized
Speaker 2: that We're in a time where we're a very sharply
Speaker 2: divided nation and you're either blue or red and never
Speaker 2: the Twains show meet, and people don't date. You know,
Speaker 2: they don't. If you're blue, you don't date people who
Speaker 2: are red. And if you're read, you you know you
Speaker 2: hear all of this, which is crazy. But to quit
Speaker 2: your job, that's pretty drastic, isn't it.
Speaker 6: I agree? And I think this is the flip side
Speaker 6: of at will employment, which is, you know, where employers
Speaker 6: can let people go for any reason or no reason.
Speaker 6: So long as there's not any legal reason, employees can
Speaker 6: leave for any reason or no reason. I think kind
Speaker 6: of the generational shift is the willingness to do so well.
Speaker 2: Employees could could theoretically also do that. I mean unless
Speaker 2: you were, you know, a major league face of pope.
Speaker 2: I mean you could leave, but then you'd be enjoyed
Speaker 2: from from from you know, working for another team. So, uh,
Speaker 2: we understand that. But to leave your job, I mean,
Speaker 2: is the job market that good right now where you
Speaker 2: can be so confident that you you call your boss
Speaker 2: or you walk in some Friday morning and see you
Speaker 2: have a nice weekend. I'm not coming back Monday morning
Speaker 2: over political differences.
Speaker 6: Right, right? No, I mean it really is wild because
Speaker 6: it's sort of the to prioritize something like that when
Speaker 6: you know you've got bills to pay, you got mouse
Speaker 6: to feed. It's kind of hard to comprehend how you
Speaker 6: would prioritize something like a political opinion. But for some reason,
Speaker 6: this generation, I guess, is not afraid to kind of
Speaker 6: roll the dice and kind of see what comes next.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, what about I'm going to run a theory
Speaker 2: ABOUTE and that is, if these are younger people eighteen
Speaker 2: to thirty two or whatever however we would define gen Z,
Speaker 2: most of them probably are not. Maybe they're not in
Speaker 2: what they're they're thinking of as their career. Maybe they're
Speaker 2: working as a wait staff person, and they figure, Hey,
Speaker 2: if I lose my job here at Starbucks, I can
Speaker 2: go get my job up the street at Duncan Donuts.
Speaker 2: Does that factor into this? Obviously, it's easy to be
Speaker 2: brave and blow you your job up when you're twenty
Speaker 2: five or twenty eight, a little easier than when you're
Speaker 2: forty eight or fifty eight and you're married and you
Speaker 2: have kids.
Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. I think there is some kind
Speaker 6: of like the mobility among maybe service industry or other
Speaker 6: jobs where there is a lot of turnover already, maybe
Speaker 6: there's more freedom there. But I also think where people
Speaker 6: are considering, you know, how it's used to be done,
Speaker 6: or supposed to be done, or however you want to say,
Speaker 6: that is, if you're unhappy, you find the next wrung
Speaker 6: on the ladder before you let go of this one, right,
Speaker 6: you wouldn't just leave kind of without the next the
Speaker 6: next step in place. And I think that that is
Speaker 6: a difference now that we're seeing.
Speaker 2: Well, they always used to say that the best time
Speaker 2: to find another job is when you have a job,
Speaker 2: right right, Uh, And it's just to just to jump
Speaker 2: out the window and not knowing whether or not there's
Speaker 2: something there that's going to catch you when you jump
Speaker 2: out the window that could be dangerous. Is there a
Speaker 2: factor here that we're talking about the kids who grew
Speaker 2: up and everybody got a trophy and no one got criticized.
Speaker 2: Is there a little bit of that game it mixed
Speaker 2: in here?
Speaker 6: Do you think you know? I mean, I think that
Speaker 6: you could frame it that way. I think I've heard
Speaker 6: someone say that every older generation thinks the next generation
Speaker 6: is entitled. So I don't know if I could, if
Speaker 6: I could kind of, you know, just from that bandwagon completely.
Speaker 6: But I do think there is sort of, you know,
Speaker 6: expectations now of the workplace that are higher than they
Speaker 6: used to be, right, Like I expect, you know, for
Speaker 6: the for the employer to work around me and not
Speaker 6: the other way around, and use.
Speaker 2: I'm going to use the word the expectations are unrealistic.
Speaker 2: M little little you know. You say they're higher. I
Speaker 2: say they're that this company now functions around me because
Speaker 2: I have deigned to take some employment with them. I
Speaker 2: guess I don't know.
Speaker 6: Right, You're lucky, You're lucky enough that I'm here. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, if you're a major league
Speaker 2: pitcher and you're twenty three years old and you can
Speaker 2: throw the ball one hundred and four miles an hour
Speaker 2: and you've got a breaking ball that you know drops
Speaker 2: twelve inches vertically, yeah, we can probably say that, but
Speaker 2: not too many of us are in that position. Attorney Perez,
Speaker 2: always great to talk with. You always bring different and
Speaker 2: interesting topics to the table here on Nightside. I appreciate
Speaker 2: it so much.
Speaker 6: Good talking with you too. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you much appreciate it. When we get back, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about something that all of us should
Speaker 2: celebrate today, and that is the American Red Cross continue
Speaker 2: the tradition at Fenway Park of having a day of remembrance,
Speaker 2: a day of remembrance blood drive at Fenway Park, obviously
Speaker 2: in recognition and in remembrance of what happened twenty three
Speaker 2: years ago this day on nine to eleven, two thousand
Speaker 2: and one. We're going to be talking with Jeff Hall,
Speaker 2: communications manager of the American Red Cross and see how
Speaker 2: they did at Fenway Park today. We will talk at
Speaker 2: nine o'clock about the twenty third anniversary of nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: and I fear that many of us are allowing it
Speaker 2: to sort of slip a little deeper into our memory
Speaker 2: bank on an everyday basis. We'll talk about that right
Speaker 2: after this break. We'll be talked with Jeff Hall. Coming
Speaker 2: right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio today.
Speaker 2: Of course, it is a sad day. It's the twenty
Speaker 2: third anniversary of nine to eleven, a day that will
Speaker 2: live an infamy for Boston with two of the planes
Speaker 2: that crashed into the World Trade Center, taking with them
Speaker 2: the lives of all on board, and ultimately a day
Speaker 2: in which upwards of three thousand Americans families lost a
Speaker 2: loved one that day. We're going to talk about this
Speaker 2: more in the nine o'clock hour, but this day has
Speaker 2: been remembered at Fenway Park for many years with a
Speaker 2: Red Cross blood drive with Me's Jeff Hall. He's the
Speaker 2: communications manager of the American Red Cross here in Greater Boston,
Speaker 2: probably for New England as far as I guess, Jeff,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how far your responsibility spread, but how
Speaker 2: many years have has the Red Cross been doing this
Speaker 2: drive in remembrance of nine to eleven.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So we partnered up with the Red Sox in
Speaker 7: two thousand and two. You know, like minds came together
Speaker 7: and thought, this is a perfect way to try to,
Speaker 7: you know, bring the community of Boston together, show them
Speaker 7: that there's something, you know, every citizen can do for
Speaker 7: an hour on nine to eleven to commemorate the people
Speaker 7: that we have lost. And so we've been doing that
Speaker 7: for the last twenty three years. We hope to continue
Speaker 7: it for the next for the next coming years. They're
Speaker 7: Fenily Park they've been the Red Sox have been just
Speaker 7: a great partner, and it's just it's been a very
Speaker 7: successful blood drive year over here.
Speaker 2: So how many donors came to Fenway today to make
Speaker 2: a gift of life donation.
Speaker 7: We had more than two hundred donors come today up
Speaker 7: to up to the five to twenty one overlook at
Speaker 7: Fenway Park. You know, they all had their own stories.
Speaker 7: Some people. I met a first time blood donor who
Speaker 7: actually worked at Stenway Park as a ticket seller today.
Speaker 7: You know, she'd seen it year over year, and you know,
Speaker 7: everything just aligned and she got an email from her boss,
Speaker 7: you know, if they if she had an hour to
Speaker 7: go up and take it and and give blood if
Speaker 7: she wanted to. So she was really happy to do that.
Speaker 7: It was nice just chatting with her. We had no
Speaker 7: veterans and people that's had children in the military and
Speaker 7: just thought would be a great way to honor their
Speaker 7: children in the war, in the in the work that
Speaker 7: they do by coming together here in Boston and just
Speaker 7: doing something of service on.
Speaker 2: Nine to eleven, Jeff, I know that every year this
Speaker 2: day is important, but in fact, three hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: five days a year are important. How is the blood supply.
Speaker 2: At this point, I realized that that people who didn't
Speaker 2: get to go to Fenway Park today, if they'd like
Speaker 2: to make a donation, you know, a blood donation, they
Speaker 2: can go to any of a number of the Red
Speaker 2: Cross offices in the next tomorrow, over the weekend or
Speaker 2: whatever it can be. Uh, it can be equally valuable.
Speaker 2: How do we stand with with blood supply at this
Speaker 2: time of year here in New England? And I'm assuming
Speaker 2: it is New England we're talking about them, or I
Speaker 2: might be mistaken. Is it just Greater Boston or do
Speaker 2: you folks are you responsible for more than just Greater Boston.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're Red Cross blood all across all across New England,
Speaker 7: you know named Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut.
Speaker 5: We have in debt.
Speaker 7: Them is our is our biomedical processing facility where we
Speaker 7: receive the donations, They undergo testing and then they're turned
Speaker 7: into various products that hospitals use. And you know, we're
Speaker 7: coming out of a very challenging summer. Uh, you know,
Speaker 7: heat across high heat across the country. Uh, severe weather,
Speaker 7: they'll impact blood drives in local areas. So we were
Speaker 7: on what we call an emergency appeal all summer, and
Speaker 7: that's where we ask people maybe if you've never donated,
Speaker 7: or if they missed their last donations, to come on
Speaker 7: out and make a donation. So we're at a stable
Speaker 7: point across the United States right now. But you know,
Speaker 7: blood is like blood is like the milk and your refrigerator.
Speaker 7: It just doesn't it can't last in there for more
Speaker 7: than a week or so. So it's blood is something
Speaker 7: that doesn't sit on a shelf. It's when it's donated,
Speaker 7: it's it's processed, and it immediately goes out for you.
Speaker 7: So we just need constant blood donors so that we
Speaker 7: can keep that blood on the shelf for when hospitals
Speaker 7: and cancer treatment centers need it.
Speaker 2: Now, is it is it's more for people to call
Speaker 2: in a dance and make sure that they, you know,
Speaker 2: get prepped for it in terms of what they can
Speaker 2: eat the day before or what they can't eat the
Speaker 2: day before. Are there do you advise people just show
Speaker 2: up at a Red Cross center and and explain that
Speaker 2: you'd like to give blood. What's what's the better procedure
Speaker 2: from your perspective.
Speaker 7: You know, we ask people to make an appointment. It's
Speaker 7: the fastest way and the best way to have a
Speaker 7: good donor experience, and so you're not waiting around. You
Speaker 7: can do that by logging on to redcrossblood dot org.
Speaker 7: You just type in your zip code and it will
Speaker 7: bring up the nearest blood drives on the dates around
Speaker 7: where you currently live. Generally speaking, though, if you are
Speaker 7: feeling well, you are you can go in and make
Speaker 7: a donation. You know, we asked if you have fever
Speaker 7: or you're not feeling well, like under the weather or
Speaker 7: have the flu, that you'd want to reschedule your appointment.
Speaker 7: But generally, if you're feeling good and you know, people
Speaker 7: have a lot of misconceptions about different types of medications
Speaker 7: that most medications that you're on, you can still donate blood.
Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent, And the experience from the time you walk
Speaker 2: in the door until the time you walk out probably
Speaker 2: about an hour, is that it It.
Speaker 7: Takes, yeah, it takes about an hour. We do we
Speaker 7: do a brief health screening, just ask you a few questions,
Speaker 7: ask you how you're feeling, and take your blood pressure.
Speaker 7: So if you've never had your blood pressure taken in
Speaker 7: the last few years, it's a good place to get
Speaker 7: that checked up. On and Yeah, if you scream through
Speaker 7: and they you start the whole blood donation process, which
Speaker 7: is kind of like an IV in the middle part
Speaker 7: of your arm, and that takes about, you know, about
Speaker 7: ten minutes. That's probably the quickest part of the whole procedure.
Speaker 7: And you know, once they once you're you're done donating,
Speaker 7: you they have you line in the bed for a unit,
Speaker 7: make sure you're fully recovered. Then we ask for people
Speaker 7: to hang out for about ten minutes, kind to drink,
Speaker 7: have a snack, just to make sure they're fully feeling okay,
Speaker 7: and then there and then you're on your way. If
Speaker 7: you have an appointment, you're generally out the door in
Speaker 7: about sixty minutes.
Speaker 2: Sounds great. Well, look, congratulations on today. I hope that
Speaker 2: the two hundred donations today met or exceeded your expectations
Speaker 2: and that people are still cognizant that today is a
Speaker 2: day that we should all keep in the back of
Speaker 2: our mind throughout the year, but particularly on nine to eleven.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a wonderful day. Ten way, we want
Speaker 5: to thank the Red Sox for all the support of
Speaker 5: the annual blood driving Yeah, it was a great day.
Speaker 5: I think we met our goal for the day, which
Speaker 5: was two hundred and thirty is what we were hoping
Speaker 5: to get in the door. And we'll have final numbers
Speaker 5: a little later tomorrow, but we I know we got
Speaker 5: more than two hundred donors in the door today. That
Speaker 5: was just fantastic.
Speaker 2: Sounds great. Thanks Jeff in the Red Sox are winning tonight,
Speaker 2: so it's been a good day all around the All right,
Speaker 2: thanks say to our friend Kelly Eisner, and we will
Speaker 2: talk again Jeff Hall of the American Red Cross here
Speaker 2: in New England. Really important for us, all of us
Speaker 2: to periodically donate some blood. We'll be back right after
Speaker 2: the nine o'clock news and we are going to talk
Speaker 2: about nine to eleven. I'd love to talk about your
Speaker 2: experience with nine to eleven. Lock to love to talk
Speaker 2: about whether or not some of you might not have
Speaker 2: even been either alive or have specific recall of nine
Speaker 2: to eleven. I know where I was that day. Love
Speaker 2: to talk with you about it. Coming back right after
Speaker 2: the nine o'clock news here on Night Side