WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:06.280 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVZ Boston's new video. 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:09.679 Thank you very much to call. As we start off 3 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:13.839 a Wednesday night, the night after the great twenty twenty 4 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:17.640 four in the minds of some people presidential debate, we 5 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.120 will we will get to that a little bit later 6 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:24.679 on tonight. I promise you that we will go back 7 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:28.760 to our regularly scheduled program, at least our regular format. Tonight. 8 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:32.200 We're going to have four interesting topics to discuss during 9 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:37.200 the eight o'clock hour. No phone calls necessary, but we 10 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:41.119 will continue on as the evening goes on, and we 11 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:44.880 will talk about nine to eleven. And my concern is 12 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:49.280 that slowly but surely nine to eleven is receiving in 13 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:52.039 our collective memory, and I think that is going to 14 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:56.960 be an increasing problem for us, because again, we must 15 00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:59.520 never forget what happened that day, in the horror of 16 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.600 that day. We'll talk about that at nine o'clock. We 17 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:05.920 will also talk about at ten o'clock the fallout or 18 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:07.840 lack of fallout from the debate. And one of the 19 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.680 questions I want to ask tonight at ten o'clock is 20 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.640 did anyone have their mind changed? I gave you my 21 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:18.040 take on the debate last night. I thought that Vice 22 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:21.719 President Harris carried the night, carried the night pretty easily. 23 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:26.599 From my perspective. I thought some of the responses of 24 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:33.560 former President Trump were mind boggling. The dogs and cats 25 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.599 story out of Ohio. We'll get to all of that 26 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.760 at ten o'clock, but we are going to do our 27 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:41.000 news Update hour, and we're going to start off with 28 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:48.079 a regular, a person who stops by here periodically, Massachusetts 29 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:52.760 Republican State Senator Bruce TARRP Senator Tar Welcome back to night'side. 30 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:53.159 How are you. 31 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:56.840 I'm doing great, Dan, Thanks, how are you good? 32 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:57.040 Well? 33 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:58.760 I know you've been doing a lot of work up 34 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:04.840 there on the beach and erosion, and I know that 35 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.520 was a real focus through much of the summer months 36 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:12.159 for you. Give me a quick update on how that 37 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:19.080 all stands at this point, where what has what progress 38 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.159 has been made, because I do believe some progress has 39 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:21.759 been made. 40 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:24.840 Well, we've actually made a lot of progress, Stan, and 41 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.479 I want to express my appreciation for your helping us 42 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:29.680 to get the word out about our project and what 43 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:32.560 we've been trying to do. As we stand right now, 44 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:36.000 we are in the final planning and permitting stages of 45 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.800 a one point seventy five million dollar beach nourishment project, 46 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.199 which is going to help us to elevate the profile 47 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:46.400 of the dune system, create more sustainability for the beach, 48 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.120 and help us to protect a lot of valuable natural 49 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:54.840 resources and physical infrastructure like Route one A and the 50 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:58.680 Great Marsh that lies behind Route one A, as well 51 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:00.520 as a lot of the homes and bus businesses that 52 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.840 are in that area. So we made tremendous progress, and 53 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:07.759 thanks go to Governor Healy for stepping up to the 54 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:11.319 plate and making available that one point seventy five million 55 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:15.840 dollars and DCR Commissioner Brian Arrigo who has been working 56 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.439 with us every step of the way to make that 57 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:21.639 kind of progress. And Dan we're hoping to begin the 58 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.479 project sometime in October, so it's coming up very soon. 59 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:28.759 Now. Is that just one beachfront or are there more 60 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:29.960 beaches that are impacted? 61 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.680 No, Salisbury Beach is one continuous beachfront, and this will 62 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.039 cover a lot of it, not all of it, but 63 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.479 a lot of it, responding to the parts of the 64 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:42.840 beach that are in the most serious condition. 65 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:47.080 Okay, and from a time point of view, Obviously, no 66 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.199 one knows what the weather forecast is going to be 67 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:51.560 like a week from now. We see what's going on 68 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:56.000 down in the Gulf Coast region tonight. You think that 69 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:59.080 that you're on pretty good schedule to get this done 70 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:00.919 in time at least for the winter season. 71 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:03.919 Well, we certainly would have liked to have had it 72 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.520 done sooner, but there are a lot of obstacles to 73 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:10.439 that that we've had to overcome. Generally speaking, Dan, in 74 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.400 the summer, we are in an accretive pattern where we 75 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.839 actually gain sand, and some of that has happened over 76 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:19.720 this summer. But once we get past Labor Day, we're 77 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:22.759 in a vulnerable position and we begin to worry about 78 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:26.759 storms like the ones that we're seeing threatening Louisiana. So 79 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:30.000 obviously we need to get this done as soon as possible. 80 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.240 But everyone's working very hard to make sure that we 81 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:36.600 get the project done. And one of the important elements 82 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:39.439 of it, Dan, is that we have to secure easements 83 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:42.759 from a lot of the property owners because this project 84 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:46.160 is truly public and private. Some of the sand is 85 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:48.639 going to go on private property, some of the sand 86 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.360 is going to go on public property. But the point 87 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:54.879 is the dune straddles that property line, and to do 88 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:59.160 this project right, everybody's got to work together because it's 89 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:05.160 one system that we're repairing. So right now, town officials 90 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:08.600 in Salisbury are working very hard to secure those easements. 91 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.759 A lot of them have been secured, and credit goes 92 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:14.680 there to the two organizations that are working with us, 93 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.600 the Salisbury Beach Betterment Association and the Salisbury Beach Citizens 94 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:22.439 for Change, who are helping to secure those easements, as 95 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:24.920 well as one of the great unsung heroes in all 96 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:29.360 of this effort, Adrian Marshand, who is the conservation agent 97 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:31.800 for the Town of Salisbury. But this is an all 98 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.360 hands on deck exercise, Dan, and we're pulling together and 99 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:37.839 hopefully very soon we'll be moving sand on the beach. 100 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.120 Well, it's good to know that Republicans and Democrats, everyone 101 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:44.040 can work together saving a beach, saving Salisbury Beach. But 102 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.879 in addition to that, I guess you've had some success 103 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.240 on another issue, which is the one we really need 104 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:51.319 to talk about tonight. And this is an act relative 105 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:54.800 to the use of elephants, big cats, primates, giraffes, and 106 00:05:54.839 --> 00:06:01.199 bears in traveling exhibits and shows. This basically I think 107 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:06.759 says to all of these traveling events circuses, you can 108 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.720 come and you can put on your shows, but you 109 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:14.360 can't use elephants, lions, tigers, bears, giraffes and other animals 110 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.639 here in Massachusetts. How did this come to pass? 111 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:20.920 Well, it's actually a very good news story, Dan, and 112 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:22.879 that's why I was very eager to share it with 113 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:27.160 you tonight, because I know about your interest animal welfare, 114 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.160 and again you've helped us get the word out about 115 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.879 this bill, and Massachusetts has a great legacy in terms 116 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:36.560 of our animal welfare laws. I actually began working on 117 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.680 this one with the first filing of the bill way 118 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:43.240 back in twenty nineteen, and we have filed it since then. 119 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.439 But like most pieces of legislation, Dan, we had to 120 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.600 work through it. We had to evolve the language because 121 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:54.079 we wanted to preserve the opportunity for organizations that offer 122 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:58.240 permanent exhibits. A lot of the zoos, the Franklin Park Zoo, 123 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.959 the Stone Zoo. One of the great heroes in this 124 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:05.920 discussion have been the folks at Southwick Zoo, a family 125 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:09.160 owned operation, who've worked very hard with us to get 126 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.120 the language right and to make sure that we can 127 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.240 preserve those opportunities for people to go and see these 128 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.240 kinds of animals. But what we did want to do 129 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:23.079 is prohibit traveling animal acts because there's an incredible body 130 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.040 of evidence that when these animals that are named in 131 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:28.759 the bill, and you've listed some of them, are subjected 132 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.120 to the conditions of traveling, it's very harmful to them, 133 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:36.319 both psychologically and physically. And that's why it was appropriate 134 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.920 for Massachusetts to enact the ban. And that's exactly what 135 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:44.560 happened after all these years on August ninth, when Governor 136 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:45.680 Healy signed the bill. 137 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.319 So even though you were not in formal session, I 138 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.360 assume this means there was no objection from anyone on 139 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:55.600 either side of the aisle, and that was what got 140 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:57.240 this bill on the governor's desk. 141 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:00.680 Well, that's a great question, Dan, and it's got a 142 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:05.160 multiple part answer. So the bill actually got passed in 143 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:08.720 the last day of the formal legislative session back on 144 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.519 July thirty first, where not a lot got done on 145 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:16.480 Beacon Hill, but certainly this bill did get done. But importantly, 146 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:19.959 the bill received unanimous votes in the House and the Senate. 147 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:23.519 And this was just another example of how we can 148 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.720 roll up our sleeves and work together still in the 149 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:32.200 Massachusetts legislature and get something done. And credit goes to 150 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:34.240 all of the folks that worked on this. We had 151 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:38.039 twenty four co sponsors on our bill, and the House 152 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.320 Representative Brad Jones, the House Minority Leader, and Representative Fiola 153 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.759 were co presenters of the House version of the bill. 154 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:49.480 And in the Senate we also had a similar bill 155 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:54.039 that was filed by Senator Adam Gomez from Springfield. So 156 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.279 a lot of bipartisan interest here, Dan, and there has 157 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:01.120 been historically a lot of bipartisan work on animal welfare 158 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.399 laws in Massachusetts, and once again that by part is 159 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.279 an effort. Delivered this bill to the Governor's desk and 160 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:12.200 the governor signed it, and with that we joined at 161 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:16.240 least ten other states that have enacted similar bands, and 162 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:21.759 incredibly a number of municipalities. Over two hundred and thirty 163 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:24.919 seven states have enacted these kind of bands, and in 164 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.759 Massachusetts just a couple of them are Topsfield and Wilmington 165 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.519 and others as well. So, Dan, this is an idea 166 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:37.120 that I think has benefited from broad consensus, and once 167 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.039 again we were able to get it to the governor's 168 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.159 desk and now it's the law and the commonwealth. 169 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.519 Well that sounds great. Congratulations to you, Senator. I know 170 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.360 oftentimes things don't go smoothly up on Beacon Hill, but 171 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.440 this is one that has gone smoothly on Beacon Hill. 172 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.720 And it looks as if Salsbury Beach, through your efforts 173 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:55.399 in the office of a lot of other people up 174 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.879 there I have banned together and maybe that Beach is 175 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:02.879 going to avoid what could have been a disastrous result 176 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.120 if nothing had been done in a timely fashion. So 177 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.480 thanks so much for being available late at night or 178 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.720 you know, for late at night for folks like you 179 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.039 who get up early in the morning and work up 180 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.279 on Beacon Hill or in the district. Congratulations and let's 181 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:19.360 have more of it here in Massachusetts. Thanks so much, Senator. 182 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:23.279 Thanks Dan, look very much forward to more of this. 183 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.919 And just credit to a couple of people, my chiefest 184 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.360 deputy chief of staff and legal counsel her ark Shaw, 185 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.639 who really led the effort on this on our staff, 186 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:34.480 and also Diane Sullivan, a mutual friend of ours, who 187 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.519 helped to get it done. And look forward to talking 188 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.639 about more of these kind of collaborative efforts. 189 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.559 The Great Diane Sullivan the assistant dean at the Massachusetts 190 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:47.440 School of Law and the founder of the Shadow Fund, 191 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:51.440 which is the official charity of Nightside and a charity 192 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:55.720 that provides veternaric here to people who cannot afford it. 193 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:59.000 And it's all through her efforts. We do nothing other 194 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:02.399 than publicize it and maybe make some contributions along the way. 195 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:05.639 So Diane Sullivan is, as far as I'm concerned, an 196 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:08.960 absolute saint. I really mean that, and you know exactly 197 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:12.320 what I mean. She's a wonderful you being. Thanks Bruce. 198 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:13.080 We'll talk soon. 199 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.799 Okay, Thanks, Dan, have a great night. 200 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.399 You bet you you too, and we come back on 201 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.840 and talk about baseball road trips. No, not the Red 202 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.200 Sox road trips, but road trips that more and more 203 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.919 people are taking who are baseball fans to see other venues, 204 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.720 other ballparks around the country. The Complete Guide to all 205 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:34.480 the Ballparks with beer bites and sights nearby. Author Timothy 206 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.480 Malcolm will join us on the other side. 207 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:40.080 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 208 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.320 night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 209 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:49.679 I'm delighted to welcome our next guest, Timothy Malcolm. He's 210 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:53.080 a baseball writer and a podcaster, and he loves the 211 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:57.399 game of baseball, and he's a Philadelphia guy, so we 212 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.759 can't hold that against him. But he's written a book, 213 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.960 Baseball Road Trips, The Complete Guy to All the Ballparks 214 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:07.159 with beer bites and sides and sites nearby. Timothy Malcolm, 215 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:08.559 Welcome to Nightside. How are you, sir? 216 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.200 I'm great, Dan, Thanks, And you know Boston's and my Boston's, 217 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:14.879 my old stomping grounds. They used to go to school 218 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:16.320 in Boston. So where'd you go? 219 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.639 Where? Where'd you go to? Where were you bu? 220 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:24.639 I was there two thousand and two to two thousand 221 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:25.039 and six. 222 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:27.720 Well, you're a young guy. I graduated from law school 223 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:32.080 there back in the last century, so the twentieth century, 224 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:36.080 the last century. So yeah, George Sherman Union, I'm sure 225 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:38.440 you had some of the delicious meals there, as I 226 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:42.559 did many many years ago. Well, so, so, how many 227 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:46.159 I assume you've hit all thirty two major League ballparks? 228 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:47.879 Yeah? 229 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:50.559 I've been to every major League ballpark, Yes I have. 230 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:54.759 And so how did when did when did this this journey? 231 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.440 This this is almost like a religious experience for people 232 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:00.919 like you and me who love baseball. Uh, when did 233 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:05.080 this religious experience begin for you. What did you say, 234 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.159 I'm going to see them all? And it is thirty 235 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:08.639 two if I'm not mistaken. 236 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:10.799 Correct, So it's thirty. It's thirty thirty. 237 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:14.360 You're right, it's thirty two NFL Stadium. Okay, five thirty, 238 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.679 you're right. So when did you When did you start? 239 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:19.960 I mean, obviously you must have must you must have gone, 240 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.039 I assume as a kid to the Vet when that 241 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:25.600 when that ballpark was open in Philadelphia, right. 242 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:29.000 Yeah, that that was my childhood ballpark. The Vet. 243 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:31.080 You never you never at your age, you never saw 244 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.519 a shy park or anything like that. I know that. 245 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:39.159 So unfortunately, no, yeah, well maybe fortunately, but the Vet, 246 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:44.600 you know, concrete, doughnut hold multiple Oh yeah, purfect. I 247 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:46.639 That's where I grew up. And you know, I didn't 248 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.519 realize until it was a little bit older and I 249 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.639 saw a kid that ballparks were better than the Vet. 250 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.120 And I actually my dad owned a T shirt with 251 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.399 Fenway Park on it. It was a Fenway Park T shirt 252 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.840 and I, when I was a kid, used to see 253 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.320 that shirt all the time and I loved it so much, 254 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.039 and I kept saying, I need to get there, I 255 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:08.320 need to get there, and I would draw Fenway Park 256 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:11.159 from that shirt over and over again, and so I 257 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:14.360 finally got the opportunity to go around nineteen ninety nine 258 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:17.039 was my first time there, and I was like a 259 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.759 little kid in the candy store. I just I freaked out. 260 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.039 And that was kind of the moment that I realized, Man, 261 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.360 I want to see more of these ballparks. I really 262 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.519 want to start going on these journeys. And one day 263 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.080 if I can get to All thirty, amazing, But you know, 264 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:31.279 I just want to see as many as I can. 265 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.639 And so that's how the love of it developed. And 266 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.279 then along the way I was able to get the 267 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:38.440 opportunity to write this book. But Fenway was really the 268 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.159 beginning of my journey. I like, Fenway is my favorite 269 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:42.600 park in the world, so. 270 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.080 Well many of us in Boston is our famous park 271 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.200 as well a favorite ballpark as well. So did start 272 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:53.480 geographically and stick in the East Coast? Tell us how 273 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:56.399 how you came to hit All thirty. 274 00:14:57.799 --> 00:14:59.840 Yeah, so early on, you know, it was East Coast 275 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.320 art so I Fenway, and then Baltimore, the New York 276 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.919 parks and all of that whatever was you know, close 277 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.519 enough to home and at one point I was an adult, 278 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:11.159 I was able to take two weeks off and I 279 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.320 did the huge road trip where I went from Philadelphia 280 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:15.919 to New York. I assumed me I lived in New 281 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.799 York and down to Philadelphia, and then I went all 282 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:24.200 the way across to Denver, along the way, hitting Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, 283 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:27.519 and I got to Denver, saw game of Corpfield, and 284 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.600 I came back around to Saint Louis, Cincinnati, Kansas City, 285 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.480 and that was a big trip that kind of got 286 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.200 a lot of the knockout. And then when I finally 287 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.480 got this book deal several years ago, the first edition, 288 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:41.679 I started to okay, I got to get to all 289 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.159 these other parks, and I did a trip to Florida, 290 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:47.799 did Miami in Tampa, went to Arizona knocked down out, 291 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.879 went to California, and did La San Diego, Anaheim. So 292 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:53.960 I started to do them in batches, sort of in 293 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.080 that kind of road trip style that is in the book. 294 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.240 Well, I'll tell you I've gone to a lot of 295 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.519 them over the years. Haven't been to everyone. I've been 296 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:05.559 to a lot that now are gone. The Twins Metrodome, 297 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:11.480 I went to the Ranger, Rangers Ballpark, which was in Arlington, 298 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:16.279 Texas a long long time ago. Kimiski Park, Uh, you know, 299 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:22.000 Three River Stadium, the Vet in Philadelphia, up in Montreal 300 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.000 where the where the Expos play. So I've been to 301 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:30.240 a lot of these, all old old barns, but I 302 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.600 just think it's I think it's it's mind. Uh, it's 303 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.799 so important to just experience this if you had the 304 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:40.000 time and the ability. Okay, real quickly, give us your 305 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:43.600 top five other than fen the old Yankee Stadium. I'm 306 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.360 sure you're not old enough to remember the old Yankee Stadium. 307 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:47.559 It's kind of similar to the. 308 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.679 You what, I went to the old Yankee Citium in 309 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:52.480 nineteen ninety three. 310 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.720 That was okay, Okay, you're just a kid. That's good. 311 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.000 So give us your top five currently, your top five 312 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:02.879 other than uh, you know, then the Philly the Philadelphia 313 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.480 or or or or Boston Family Park. 314 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:10.079 Sure, so Pecto Park in San Diego, I think is 315 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:12.599 the best park that I've been to over a. 316 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:16.640 Great, great, great district in the the gas Like district, Beautiful. 317 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:22.279 Bull Also, Camden Yards is just such an iconic park 318 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:23.799 and and that was one of the first that I 319 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.599 went to, and that was that's a beauty that still 320 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:27.599 holds up today, both both. 321 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.759 Of them, which were built by the Lake Great Larry 322 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:31.640 and Janet Maurice Smith. 323 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:34.880 That's right, that's right, that's right, Yeah, Rust and Piece 324 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:39.279 Larry Lucino Target Field in Minneapolis. I recently got there 325 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:43.000 and I was I was floored how much they have 326 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.799 and how accessible and affordable it is, and how friendly 327 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:47.440 it is for families and things like that. 328 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.440 Really, the people in Minnesota are the friendliest people in 329 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:52.680 the world, you know that, Right's I'm from Minnesota and 330 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.359 I'm a very friendly person, you know that. 331 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.480 Well, that's why I said it. Yeah, who else? 332 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:01.119 It'd be two more, And I'm going to ask you 333 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.319 one that one that you haven't mentioned yet. 334 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:06.720 Go ahead, sure, Oracle Park in San Francisco, which is 335 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.640 just incredible. Everybody's got to get there at some point 336 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:09.079 in their lives. 337 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:09.880 Been there. 338 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:14.160 And Wrigley Field in Chicago all that was it? 339 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:19.480 Yeah, you have you got to mention Wrigley Field absolutely, yeah. 340 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:20.359 Yeah. 341 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:21.759 So okay, So the book. 342 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:26.200 Is now out right, Yes, it's out in stores everywhere, online, 343 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:27.960 anywhere you can find books, you can find it. 344 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:31.319 Okay, So for any baseball fan in your family, This 345 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:33.119 is a great book. I'm sure you can get it 346 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:37.200 through Amazon. Baseball Road Trips, The Complete Guide to all 347 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.160 the ballparks with beer bites and sites nearby. Okay, real quickly, 348 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:43.839 which ballpark has the best hot dog in your opinion? 349 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:44.960 Hot dog in your opinion? 350 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.920 Chicago's Wrigley Field. The Chicago Dog danced tall above everything else? 351 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:50.880 I'm sorry, right. 352 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:55.359 Fair enough? Okay? Which which ballpark has the the least 353 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:58.240 expensive the most reasonable if you want to have a beer? 354 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:01.319 I'm not advocating drink here, but if you're going to 355 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:02.759 go to a ball game, you gotta have a dog 356 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:06.480 and a beer. So what ballpark had the maybe the 357 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.240 least expensive and the most expensive for an equivalent amount 358 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:10.880 of beer. 359 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.960 Least expensive Progressive Field in Cleveland, the Jake, and then 360 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:20.240 the most expensive. San Francisco's got expensive ones, Dodger Stadium 361 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:21.880 and Yankee Stadium. The three of them are kind of 362 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:22.400 around the same. 363 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.279 Are they up? Have they gone past the ten dollars 364 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:28.960 a beer barrier in those three ballparks? Oh? 365 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:31.680 Are you kidding either? Their past seventeen eighteen dollars a day? 366 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:42.039 Oh? Oh, I'm dating myself here. Oh that's horrible. Oh, 367 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:45.799 how many of the parks that you went to out 368 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.519 of the thirty did you take advantage of a tour 369 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.279 At Fenway Park, you got to take the tour, you 370 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:55.200 get to go inside the Monster and all of that. 371 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:59.680 What are there several any of any tours that you 372 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:03.119 would recommend, you know, inside these ballparks. 373 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:05.440 Yeah, I haven't done a ton of the tours, but 374 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:07.440 I'll tell you that the Yankees actually have a very 375 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:09.920 good tour at their stadium. I mean it's obviously the Yankees. 376 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:12.279 The Cardinals have a really good tour and a great 377 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:14.640 Hall of Fame museum, maybe the best one at all 378 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:19.599 Baseball's really cool. I would also recommend I would recommend 379 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:21.640 the Giants. The Giants have a really good tour at Oracle. 380 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:23.920 Uh and that goes through all the history as well. 381 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:25.119 I mean that's part of it is if they have 382 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:27.920 a really long history, you know, they take you through 383 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:29.880 and they show you trophies and things like that. That's 384 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:30.400 really cool. 385 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:37.240 Okay. One final question. Okay, if I say to you, Mahaffey, 386 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:42.079 Simmons and Bunning, it's not it's not a law firm. 387 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:43.039 Who were they? 388 00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:46.000 Yeah, well they're well they are Philly Grets is what 389 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:48.920 they are. I mean, Hirt Simmons, is it out out? 390 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:50.480 Mahaffey and Jim Bunning. 391 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:55.119 Yeah, I be halfy and Jim Bunny. Absolutely a great 392 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:59.279 pitching rotation that in nineteen sixty four just came up short. 393 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.079 That was one of those years that Phillies fans try 394 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:05.519 to repress. So I didn't mean to stir the memory, 395 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:07.640 but I just wanted to make sure you really were 396 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:11.079 a Phillies fan, even in the years before your birth. 397 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:15.119 Okay, oh no, certainly I look paint all the time. 398 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.519 But this year might be a little different, hopefully for. 399 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:20.759 Yeah, I know, this could be the you never know. 400 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.640 You never know. You got a general manager down there 401 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.640