WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:07.599 Step right up, ladies and gents, Tickets your tickets. 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:09.199 The wild emit are about to begin. 3 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:13.439 Gets tickets, Get them here on the greatest show. 4 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:21.120 Welcome to Deplorable could Nation act both conspiracy side show 5 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.679 tent the greatest free show on Earth, where the stranger 6 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:30.399 it gets, the more that it's worth see the juries 7 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.880 and be of Surd, every act you've never seen on 8 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:39.320 her tickets tickets gancha tickets. 9 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:49.200 Here, Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation. 10 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:54.039 I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today, ladies and gentlemen, 11 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:59.039 the bestie from the Westie, Welcome back, Miss Heidi, my 12 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:01.679 best friend in the whole wide world. 13 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:05.319 How we I'm good. I'm so glad to be on here, 14 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:07.959 and I love We were just talking about how much 15 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:11.439 we love interacting with, you know, people that are in 16 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.000 the community, that are like part of our little group 17 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:16.599 and the camaraderie, and I love that. I love the 18 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.120 ones that are real and they're just a breath of 19 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:21.599 fresh air. So it's always wonderful to be here with 20 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.239 my wonderful best friend Janet. 21 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.200 I love doing these shows together because not only is 22 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:32.120 it creepy, but it's also educational. So today, ladies and gentlemen, 23 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:39.000 of course, we are continuing our sideshow Attraction series and 24 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:44.719 today it is Skeletons in Your Closet, And so today 25 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:47.760 we're going to talk about all things wild and weird 26 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:55.280 about skeletons and skeletal deformities. And again disclaimer, don't get 27 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:58.599 your panties up in a bunch, because we are just 28 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:03.359 stating back about people who used to be inside shows 29 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:08.360 or could be considered a side show performer because of 30 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:12.000 things that they had. A lot of these things you 31 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:14.960 don't see so much anymore, but it was common back 32 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:15.439 in the day. 33 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.960 No, don't. Yeah, And look, I mean there's gonna be 34 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:23.919 some pictures, like always, there's gonna be just warning, right, 35 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:27.719 trigger alert. There's gonna be some medical nudity, not just 36 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:33.599 weirdo nudity, medical nudity, and some little bit disturbing. There's 37 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:37.439 a couple disturbing photos, so just you know, be aware 38 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.199 if you don't like things like that. There's no gore 39 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:43.759 per se, but there's some very strange things. And so 40 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:49.919 there is one today that uh, I will preface when 41 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:52.039 I get to that photo, I will give everybody a 42 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:56.639 little trigger warning because there are external bouts visible, so 43 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.400 that one might be traumatic for some people, so right, 44 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:01.560 our babies and children. 45 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:06.360 So yeah, and sorry if it offends anyone. But again, 46 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:13.919 this is passing along medical information about conditions specific to 47 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:20.039 people that were performers in side shows back in the day. 48 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:25.319 You don't see these things anymore because it's considered exploitative 49 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.319 or whatever you want to think. 50 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:33.639 But but they do have shows like the Little People 51 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.520 shows and all this stuff. They still exploit them. And 52 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:38.840 guess what, I'm glad they do, because those people need 53 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.960 a freaking job. Like, let's be real, they can't if 54 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.759 you got brittle bone disease, which we're going to go into, 55 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.879 you can't go work and be lifting things and hurt yourself. Like, 56 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.800 let's be real. No, I'm glad they have a place 57 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:54.560 to be and they should be able to choose. But regardless, 58 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:57.360 we aren't weighing in on the morality part so much. 59 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.599 We're just showing you what's real about real medical problems. 60 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.520 But here's here's the flip side of that coin. Like 61 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:08.680 you said, good thing this existed back in the day 62 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.879 so that they would have an opportunity to work and 63 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:17.639 earn money. And like you said, they're still exploiting people 64 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.360 because of all the different things. But now it's on 65 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.279 TV or on film, so it's okay, right. 66 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:28.240 Ye, right, yeah, you know, I'll open this up and 67 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.759 I think I'm going to be where you can talk, 68 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.120 where it will follow along, I hope. So I think 69 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:35.120 I did. I think I did. 70 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:39.160 We're going to do whatever we're going to do. 71 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.360 I try to go off of Miss Janet's notes that 72 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:46.279 are very wonderful. So so we get to day. 73 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:49.519 One of the first things we're going to talk about 74 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:58.279 is human skeleton people. Right, they appeared to be extremely emaciated. 75 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:03.079 They're very tall, they're very slender, they have uber long arms, 76 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:09.360 uber long legs, some distortion in the chest, things of 77 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.759 that nature. And so the most common condition that causes 78 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.160 that is Marphan syndrome. 79 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.360 Can you see this, Miss Janet? 80 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.240 Oh, hold on, I got to bring it up. Oh 81 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:27.279 you're good, Okay, So look at how long for people 82 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.800 who are watching this guy's arms are literally down to 83 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:34.480 his knees, that's how long his arms are. And so 84 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:40.079 a lot of times this is a genetic connective tissue 85 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:45.879 disorders that it affects like building the bony structures of 86 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:49.639 the body. And so they have a whole lot of 87 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:55.879 problems with this. But interesting side note on Marphins syndrome, 88 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:03.680 there is speculation that President Abraham Lincoln actually had Marfan 89 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:09.759 syndrome because he was abnormally shaped. Now this person, yes 90 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:14.079 we're looking at now, not only does she have Marfan syndrome, 91 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:20.319 but she also has scoliosis in her spine with you know, 92 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.680 the sideways curvature in her spine, and she. 93 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.519 Also has it common Yeah, he has. 94 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.920 It in her lumbar and also in her cervical spine. 95 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.800 So yes, yep, And this one was so I think 96 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:37.600 this one just showed so perfectly because of the length 97 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.879 of her fingers and everything. I just really liked this photo. 98 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.079 Not that she's not for her like that's sad, but 99 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:48.279 it just shows almost clinically like look at that picture 100 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:51.120 versus like this guy, Like it looks the same same. 101 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:55.600 So, yeah, exactly. And so one of the things, not 102 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.240 only do they have really long arms, really long legs, 103 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:04.519 they can have disproportionately long fingers, toes, things like that, 104 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:10.040 but they also have very hyper flexible joints and like 105 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:14.600 I said, scoliosis, but they can also have chyphosis, which 106 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.720 means that the curvature in the spine is not sideways, 107 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:27.600 it's outward, so hunchback, right, so hunchback name type people 108 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:31.639 things like that, also the deformities and the chest where 109 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:35.680 they can either have a sunken chest like the girl 110 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:39.040 in the picture head or they can have what she 111 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:43.600 calls a pigeon chest where it what bulges out instead 112 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:48.720 of the pigeon. Pigeon for you, yeap, forgive me for 113 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.439 saying this one. Wait wait, wait, pull that one picture 114 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:52.120 back up again. 115 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:53.439 Look at that one? 116 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:58.959 Whoa pull the pull the previous Okay, I think it 117 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:03.319 was this one. Oh it looks like a face. 118 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:07.720 Yeah, oh it does. Oh I see it. Oh it does. 119 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.720 That looks like a mouths in the nose in the 120 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:16.120 mouth and the ice. Sorry, no, I see it, dude, 121 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:19.040 I see it. And these ones were crazy like the 122 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.680 deviation of this and the pressure it puts on the heart. 123 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:22.839 Oh my god. 124 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:26.439 Right, because the picture that we're looking at right now, 125 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.319 they have a sunken chest. The chest is caved in, 126 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:33.960 so it looks like the actual breastbone between the rib 127 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:39.360 cage is missing, and so you have the you know, 128 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.840 the the breast and then there's this deep con cave 129 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.279 like hole in the chest. 130 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:49.000 What would happen if we do CPR on them? Dude, 131 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:50.639 that looks terrifying. 132 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:53.440 Yeah, I don't. I would not want to touch a 133 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.639 patient like that because it looks like the breastplate is 134 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:57.200 not there. 135 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.960 And this one is so dramatic and it looks like 136 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:05.399 a bird. Look I I beak right, you call it 137 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:06.200 the pigeon thing. 138 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:11.639 And the picture that we're looking at right now, like 139 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.360 the chest is protruding, but it also is kind of 140 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.080 like in a triangular shape. So it's like the ribcage 141 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:28.919 did not form properly and it's causing a very large. 142 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:32.360 Severe Yes, and I try to find the most severe 143 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.000 one speaking a plunch back, this one is very sad. 144 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:40.320 And this is a woman, by the way, and it's just. 145 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.919 Very severe case of cayphosis. 146 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:48.200 And there's our most famous cauphosis. 147 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:52.879 Second Notre Dame. So one of the things about this 148 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:58.360 condition is some patients can have caiphos scoliosis, so they 149 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:05.000 have skull and kyphosis both. And so not only do 150 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:08.840 they have the sideways s curvature of this spine, but 151 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:12.039 they also have the hunchback. That's what this child looks like. 152 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.759 Yep, she has the both this and the side and 153 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:19.159 they are able to surgically at least help these people, now, 154 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:23.559 which I'm so grateful because this is so severe in 155 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:27.720 some people that I mean, it's almost mind boggling. 156 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.240 You know, Yeah, kind of it's kind of skit whow. 157 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:34.639 That's the difference. So that was how she started and 158 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:38.360 then down at the bottom after traction and surgery where 159 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:41.639 she went to. So that's a huge difference. 160 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:47.480 Yeah, that that spinal thing is very like disruptive to 161 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:52.159 your organs, to your lungs because whenever you have like 162 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:55.639 a massive curvature, this one, I would say is probably 163 00:10:55.759 --> 00:11:00.559 like well over twelve degrees of curvature because that's what's 164 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:07.000 required for surgical intervention. But this particular girl, if you 165 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.519 think about like what that does and how that shifts 166 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.600 all the internal organs to different parts of the body 167 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:19.679 or crams like the lungs up into the chest's cavity. 168 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:26.080 I can't imagine the internal organs. Yeah, even here after surgery, 169 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.080 you can still see there's a huge displacement still of 170 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.039 the cayphosis. Yeah, but doesn't mean it's not as severe 171 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:34.559 as it was. 172 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:38.759 And the shoulders on this person that we're looking at 173 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:43.519 are very deformed as well. So the shoulder bones on 174 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:49.000 the back look like actual chicken wings because of like 175 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:52.840 a thin yeah art sticking out just on one side 176 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:57.519 on the right side. It's it's very much protruding past 177 00:11:57.600 --> 00:11:58.639 the rest of the body. 178 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.480 And look, I think the reason why they couldn't fix 179 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.000 it is I literally think this shoulder grew bigger, like 180 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:06.480 it is big. Look at that. 181 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:10.080 I'm clear now, And that's that's one of the things 182 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.120 that we'll talk about later on, because that does happen 183 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.960 in certain conditions where one side of the body grows 184 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:20.240 bigger than the other side of the body, when there's 185 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:22.240 spinal deformities like this. 186 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:27.480 It's so sad. This guy was pretty famous. He's like 187 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:31.320 a human skeleton one with mar Fan. He can't remember 188 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.840 his name, but I thought his was very James Morris. Yeah, 189 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.000 he's a definitely got So. 190 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:44.720 He was considered either the ossified man or the living skeleton. 191 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.720 And it said not only did he have Marfan syndrome, 192 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:54.200 but they also think that he had other connective tissues 193 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:59.000 as well. These people to me also like him especially 194 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:03.799 looks like he has wasting syndrome where all of his 195 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:09.080 musculature is missing, and so it literally looks like on 196 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.279 his arm, just skin directly over the bone. 197 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:18.000 It's terrifying. Like, actually, his face doesn't look bad. The 198 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.519 face seems to not he's normal, yeah, but he just 199 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.000 looks emaciated, like you said, but man, my husband was 200 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.120 actually having a hard time with these. 201 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:33.039 Look at how large his kneecaps are, though, like, oh yeah, 202 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:36.559 look really huge. And then it looks like this, you know, 203 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:41.720 like an oversized like in between a softball and a 204 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.399 basketball or something. And then his legs are really tiny 205 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:48.799 compared to the size of his knees. 206 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:53.039 That's wild, super wild. He's in a lot of things, 207 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.039 like when I looked up at him and this next 208 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:00.240 guy that you had, this guy that was seven it's 209 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.919 something that this is him. I can't remember his name, 210 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:06.559 but he was next on the mar fam guys that 211 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.320 was seven foot two. I think his last name was Alan. 212 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:13.360 But yeah, And one of the things since we were 213 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:18.440 talking about like organ displacement and stuff for people's bodies, 214 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:24.120 because it's a skeletal deformity and we haven't seen it 215 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.960 in the pictures that we've looked at yet, but a 216 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:32.279 lot of times because the facial bones also don't form 217 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:37.639 like they're supposed to. You can also have eye problems 218 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:44.279 like a dislocation of your ocular lens, which causes a 219 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:48.519 lot of problems because it distorts your cranial nerves. And 220 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:54.120 then they're also really high at risk for aortic aneurysms 221 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:59.759 or having those actually rupture or burst because their organs 222 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:02.519 are moved around the body and the A order literally 223 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:06.919 runs straight down the center line of the body. And 224 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:11.639 so if you're shifting everything, especially with real severe scoliosis, 225 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:17.399 cayphosis and the abnormalities and the you know, the chest, 226 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:20.960 the chess plate, the you know, rib cage, all of 227 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:21.559 that stuff. 228 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:25.039 It seems like every picture I got too, they all 229 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:27.200 have all of them if it's at the same level, 230 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:31.279 because you can see sunken chess deviated also he's got 231 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:34.679 a lot and scoliosis with the huge shoulder again. 232 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.039 Yep, yep, And that's what they said. And a lot 233 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:46.120 of times it wasn't just Marfans syndrome. There were performers 234 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:51.399 that performed, you know, as as the Hell but as 235 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:55.440 the living skeletons or human skeleton, whatever you want to 236 00:15:55.480 --> 00:16:00.840 call him. But it could have also been from herculosis, 237 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:08.879 severe anorexia, or other wasting conditions that caused them to 238 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.559 look you know, kind of like James Morris did where 239 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:18.679 it looked like he had no muscle or ligature in 240 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:23.799 his body. It just looked like droopy bones everything. 241 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:31.720 Yeah, wild, this is so deep. I just I mean, yeah, 242 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:32.120 I would not. 243 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.399 I think I would take a pass on the CPR. 244 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:37.759 I know, the where would the heart beat? 245 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.519 Like, where is it right? And especially since there's no 246 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.200 chest plate, where would you perform CPR Because the part 247 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:51.399 of the breastbone, you know, is two fingertips or three. 248 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.759 Fingertips above that hypoid. 249 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:56.440 Process as the end of the breastbone, and the breastbone's missing. 250 00:16:57.200 --> 00:16:58.960 And I wouldn't want to do it on him either, 251 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:00.440 because what if you break it? 252 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.440 Like have you ever done CPR in a patient? 253 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.960 Yes, lots, but not like that, not those people. Yeah. 254 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:13.319 I have actually broken a rib on a patient before. 255 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.079 Yeah. Yeah, we usually break ribs. I can fill the 256 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.759 crunch usually if you're doing it right. I hate to 257 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:23.559 see that you'll fill a crunch, yep. 258 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:29.400 But some people are brail and brittle and all the stuff, 259 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:35.240 all the things that goes along with it. So with 260 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:40.440 these people because their organs are so like misplaced and 261 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.799 you know, shifted and all of that stuff. It's really 262 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:49.680 important for them, especially these days, to have regular heart 263 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:55.279 monitoring done, and sometimes the surgery is needed because of 264 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:59.880 that aortic problem where you know, they order shift it 265 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:04.079 as well, so it makes it easier. Oh, John Ason. 266 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.640 The next one is the one that you were talking 267 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:12.440 about before that says he's he was over seven to 268 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:16.160 some people, exaggerated a little bit, said he was eight 269 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:16.759 of nine. 270 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.559 He's pretty big. This guy was that owcified man too. 271 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:23.000 You talk to another one, but I just don't want 272 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:24.799 to put that up there. But he's frozen like that. 273 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:27.880 Let me go back to that guy. I have a 274 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.480 bunch of pictures of him because he is really tall. 275 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:38.160 Right he is. And it said that he had possible scoliosis, 276 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:42.960 which you can't tell from this picture, and skeletal deformities 277 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:49.200 in addition to also being a giant and having gigantism 278 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:53.559 and so yeah, like that's a whole host of problems. 279 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:57.519 Because must not be too bad because his shoulders look 280 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:01.200 pretty even like I see a slight upper on the right. 281 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:05.559 I mean not terrible, yeah, but this I mean think 282 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:10.480 about like the compounded problems from having multiple different kinds 283 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:14.000 of things and so like on our series on you know, 284 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.680 Dwarfs and Giants, we talked about all the complications and 285 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:22.759 the problems that come along with having gigantism in the 286 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:26.480 first place, and then throw in the scoliosis and. 287 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:27.680 The heart problem. 288 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:30.240 Yeah, and the heart problems and everything on top of that. 289 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.160 Did he die early because he looks I mean they 290 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:34.279 usually die early. 291 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:38.160 Yeah, it says eighteen ninety to nineteen thirty eight. 292 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.680 Yeah, yeah, not very old. That's how it goes, you know, 293 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.920 the gigantism. I mean, even though people would rather sometimes 294 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:49.640 have height, I'm just seeing always that they have more 295 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:54.400 problems than the dwarfism, like they live longer. Yeah, one 296 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:55.240 hundred percent. 297 00:19:55.440 --> 00:20:00.440 And I think I'm at a happy height for Yes, 298 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:04.359 I'm not a dwarf, you're not. I am pretty short 299 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.880 and fun size. But yeah, like we don't have anybody 300 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.799 super tall in my family, and I'm very glad for 301 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.359 that because they're all they all have their they all 302 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.119 have their own problems, you know what I mean. 303 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:19.960 My dad, everybody on my dad's side, I do think 304 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:24.680 they had a slight mar Fan syndrome. Actual they have 305 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.599 very long arms. Fair I should have chucked in a photo. 306 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:31.839 But they look like like the kid that looked more 307 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:37.039 normal ish this kid right here, but without the scoliosis. 308 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:42.559 And honestly, it makes sense with all of the hypermobility 309 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:46.759 and everything. Like oftentimes I'm like, do I really have 310 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:49.279 that or is it just a product of this right? Like, 311 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.079 I mean, because I have scoliosis, I have all the things. 312 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.759 I have long arms not quite like that, but and 313 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:57.920 I am tall for a woman, but thank heavens, my 314 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:02.720 grandpa married very shortly and then my mom, you know, 315 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.200 is short. So I think selectively they bred it out, 316 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:07.759 I mean on accident. 317 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:15.319 Or happily they bright for the rest of you who 318 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:17.039 came afterwards. 319 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:20.039 Think Kevin's yeah, because I don't want that happening. Where 320 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:23.799 would my titties go, exactly? Can you? 321 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:29.400 And see? I wonder if if they have anybody that 322 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.039 has this condition that has the pigeon chest, the chest 323 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.039 that sticks out, if they have any females that have. 324 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:39.599 It, would be rough. 325 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:45.119 They don't get it because it's a connective tissue disorder. 326 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:49.799 Right right, or like maybe it seems less for them, 327 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:53.200 so maybe they're not diagnosed. Same with sunken chest. I 328 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:54.960 think you wouldn't know as much. If you were a 329 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:58.559 woman not to this level, clearly you would know, But 330 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:01.720 like if it was moderate like this and you just 331 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:05.680 had big boobies, like would you know, Like, I don't know. 332 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:10.240 I would think, especially with somebody that has the flail 333 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:13.160 chest or the or not flail chest, the sunken chest, 334 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:19.680 if you had breast tissue and a lot of breast tissue, 335 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:23.759 I can't imagine the weight since the breastbone seems to 336 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:25.880 be missing, right. 337 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.279 That's true, it would probably hurt bad. I think they're 338 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:32.039 always in pain for this syndrome. I will say, like 339 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:36.480 with connective tissue disorders in general, they're very painful. So 340 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:41.039 ealers downlow sucks, like if that's really what's going on 341 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:44.359 or whatever is happening, but you're just hurting all the 342 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:48.519 time because you accidentally do things that shouldn't happen, right, sleeping. 343 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:53.640 One hundred percent. So one of the things. They also 344 00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:59.400 build people as a half man or frog boy because 345 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:05.079 of uh other spinal malformations that happens that that end 346 00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:13.240 up in severe limb contracts and so some of them 347 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:17.440 their their legs do go out like frog legs or 348 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:22.720 some people, uh like they're unable to bend their joints. 349 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:27.759 The anovial fluid is missing from from their knee joints 350 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:31.000 and stuff, and so they wind up in wheelchairs. So 351 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:34.839 they wind up walking on their hands or kind of 352 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:38.680 like the hop emotion like a frog because they can't 353 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:39.799 move their joints. 354 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:43.079 There's this one's this one's good to show like a 355 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:48.440 very severe he was pretty famous, you know in that scene. 356 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:51.799 But you can definitely see like his limbs. He back 357 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:54.200 then you couldn't cut them off because you die of infection. 358 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:57.319 But nowadays it's almost better off, you know, right. 359 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.480 And this guy has he's in a whell chair and 360 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:06.480 he has very skinny legs. His arms look look normal, 361 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:11.680 but he has really bad contortion of his lower leg 362 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:13.599 bone and his ankle bones. 363 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:17.559 Was so really bad. And there's a few others. Let's see, 364 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.599 I don't know if you saw this one. This guy 365 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:25.160 was pretty famous as frog boy m. And then there 366 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:28.319 is a couple look at this janet. Yeah, and this. 367 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:35.480 I just want to say, kind of what my knee does. 368 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:41.720 Sometimes it will ben backwards, but this this picture that, yeah, 369 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:48.119 this boy's knee joints are backwards on his body, and 370 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:53.000 so the kneecap is actually on the back of the knee, 371 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.480 so he the legs are bent backwards. 372 00:24:58.039 --> 00:24:59.200 It looks like a chair. 373 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:06.519 Yeah. And I can't imagine the amount of people that 374 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:11.839 would get whiplash looking at him. And I would say 375 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.240 they would probably and this is guessing, but I would 376 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.200 say they would probably build that as like Chicken Boy 377 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:24.680 or you know, like dinosaur boy, like that was the 378 00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:28.680 way that the knees or backwards. 379 00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:33.359 And this one was crazy. I was like whoa, And 380 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.359 especially since it's like nowadays, I was like, what on earth? 381 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:43.400 But these ones are are the more small like little appendages, 382 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:48.079 but they still work, you know. But I do have one. 383 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:54.400 This is the imperfecto one, right, This is this. 384 00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:59.359 Is a very interesting thing. It's called osteogenesis imperfected. It's 385 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:06.160 also called brittle bone disease. They are uber easy to fracture, 386 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:11.759 like at any given time doing anything at all because 387 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:17.839 it is another genetic connective tissue disorder. The body doesn't 388 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:23.960 make enough quality type one collagen, which is what you 389 00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.920 have to have for strong bones and stuff, and this 390 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:32.319 leads to easy fractures with sometimes little or no trauma. 391 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.440 She has a picture of a infant up on the 392 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:47.400 screen right now, where the baby's right leg is just 393 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:54.359 for you, and it's bent up and backwards, so it's 394 00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:57.039 like the knee is folded up over each other. This 395 00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:01.839 is another case like the older boy was, where the 396 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:06.000 legs are are bent in the absolute opposite direction. 397 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.319 It's wild to me. That is like that. My husband 398 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.640 was out. He was like, I can't look at these pictures. 399 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:19.079 You're maybe, He's like, I'm sorry, I get sick. Yeah. 400 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:24.759 So, not only do they have the ability to fracture 401 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.880