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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out Going Deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show

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<v Speaker 1>planned for you tonight. You'll know my next guest from

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<v Speaker 1>her appearances on websites such as Digital Playground and black

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. You find links to all of our social

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<v Speaker 1>media and the episode description below, but I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to direct you to check out her OnlyFans at Lily

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<v Speaker 1>Underscore Bell xxx. Ladies and gentlemen, join me and welcoming

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, the Lovely Lily Bell Lily. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, I'm really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So can you take me through just as quickly

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<v Speaker 1>as you want? Your entrance into the adult film street

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<v Speaker 1>or any kind of adult work in general. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you started with camming or stripping or video.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your path into this industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're kind of right on with that assessment. I

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<v Speaker 2>started with camming. I was told by another performer named

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Canila that if you have never dipped your toe

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<v Speaker 2>in any type of sex work, it's probably best to

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<v Speaker 2>do something of that nature before, just like doing straight

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<v Speaker 2>up porn. You know, I think if you're like a

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<v Speaker 2>super giant slut and like a true born slut, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you can jump jump into porn. For sure, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some that we see that can just do that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a super promiscuous person, so I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was important that I started doing sex work in a

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<v Speaker 2>different way. And then yeah, start with camming. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>moved on to stripping, and then I started doing it

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<v Speaker 2>out here and yeah, it's a it's a cool little

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<v Speaker 2>story how that happened. I had two roommates that I

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<v Speaker 2>basically got off rooms to, and then we all started

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<v Speaker 2>camming together. And I let them know that I cam

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I said, I do this and you'll hear

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<v Speaker 2>these moans throughout the day, so it's important that you

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<v Speaker 2>know that. And she said, oh, do you make a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money with that? And then she wanted to start,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we got my other friend to start, and

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<v Speaker 2>then my other friend started stripping. I was in a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship at the time, so I couldn't be doing that

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<v Speaker 2>in my relationship. After we broke up, she's like, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to try stripping? And I said sure, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we both started, and then the other friend, who

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<v Speaker 2>was late to the camming, she was like, Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>strip and what's funny about this is I think me

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<v Speaker 2>and that first friend we don't strip at all anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that one friend she still strips to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there you how much of a different beast

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<v Speaker 1>are all three of those things? Because I've interviewed a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of strippers this week, and I've talked to them

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, or girls, sorry, non bunch of shippers,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of porn stars who are now trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get into feature dancing, and they're saying, like, there's two types.

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<v Speaker 1>Some are just like, yeah, I'm all for it, jump in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's some who are like, there's a difference

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<v Speaker 1>between camming or being on a closed set and being

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<v Speaker 1>in a bar where some guy smashes a bottle over

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<v Speaker 1>someone's head over here and has to be carried out.

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<v Speaker 1>Going from camming to stripping, was that like a huge

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<v Speaker 1>jump for you or was it exciting? Were you nervous

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<v Speaker 1>at all? Did you get into a good club early

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<v Speaker 1>on or did you have to kind of work your

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<v Speaker 1>way up that route as well?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, out of I've done every angle of

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<v Speaker 2>sex work that there is, and stripping is definitely was

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<v Speaker 2>the hardest on you. Mentally, I would say it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just I would say that the

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<v Speaker 2>customers would rather say sorry than ask for permission. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of just your constant boundaries having to be

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<v Speaker 2>told over and over and over again. I've found in

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<v Speaker 2>other sex work, I don't have to constantly put up

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<v Speaker 2>my boundaries all the time. A lot of times too,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing fifty first days, so you're hearing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of really intense stories. I'm really empathetic, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really a shark in the on the floor. I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>much sorry. My dog's coming over here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so I'll sit there and listen to your life

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<v Speaker 2>story for a bit. And all of a sudden, I've

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<v Speaker 2>wasted like an hour, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And got no dance out of it, and like a

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<v Speaker 1>five dollar tip. And it's like, what the fuck did

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<v Speaker 1>I just do?

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<v Speaker 2>And so you say to them, like, straight up, I'll go,

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<v Speaker 2>I work on tips and tips alone, I would, He's

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<v Speaker 2>like panting right at the books. I work on tips

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<v Speaker 2>and tips alone, So I would really, and and my

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<v Speaker 2>time is money, you know, I only have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>wasted an hour out of my five hour shift. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say this more eloquently than that, but I would appreciate,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you would pay me for my time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the worst thing that they can say

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<v Speaker 2>is just no. And you know because if you and

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<v Speaker 2>so they will, they'll strip to be like no, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like got it and then you move on and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, there's more questions that you asked me in

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<v Speaker 2>that first it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I generally the way I do it is I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tommy gun out questions and whatever you grab, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>just roll from there. Uh, that's kind of how this

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<v Speaker 1>show goes. Yeah, do you have an incident that stands

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<v Speaker 1>out in your mind from stripping? When you may have

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<v Speaker 1>recognized a guy who doesn't want to spend with a

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<v Speaker 1>party And I think we both know the type of

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<v Speaker 1>guy we're talking about, Like, say a bachelor party's there,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one guy all the way in the back, far

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<v Speaker 1>away from the stage, drinking beers. Have you ever quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote turned a guy where maybe you see someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>not interested in spending money and then on the second

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<v Speaker 1>trip to the ATM, you're like, oh, I got this fucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I think that happens all the time. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's constant, you have so many. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I think a big factor, unfortunately is liquor. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if people have liquor flowing, that definitely changes people's perductions.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I don't know, it's interesting I've had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to admit too, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times while I was at the strip club, like I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna show you my dog just like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he looks like my dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a golden. Do you have a golden?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a golden named Charlie. He's a terror.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a terror too. We have that in common. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but where was I going with that? Was I just

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<v Speaker 2>about to say?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, But if I really wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>a scumbag and clickbait this, I would just put Lily

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<v Speaker 1>Bell and Dog as the title of a YouTube clip

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd be off, like we'd be running.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, turning a guy who maybe didn't want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>money at a strip. Yes, you have a do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a method to start convincing? Is it not in

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<v Speaker 1>a negative way? Is it a hassling thing? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're just sitting here by yourself, Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we just go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, I definitely. I think as time went on,

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<v Speaker 2>I got more aggressive. I think you also have to

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<v Speaker 2>feel out everybody's personality. Like some people are way more timid.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people don't want to do that. Like my friend

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<v Speaker 2>she would always go after couples, and like I never

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<v Speaker 2>went after couples. Like I always felt that there was

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<v Speaker 2>a very awkward sense sometimes like they're like that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the girl didn't want to be there and the guy did,

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<v Speaker 2>and so then we're in the back room and I

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<v Speaker 2>can just sense that. And you know, I always go

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<v Speaker 2>to the female first. That's something I always do. You

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<v Speaker 2>always make the female feel comfortable first. I always want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that like I'm catering to that if

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<v Speaker 2>that is happening. But then I can tell sometimes that

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<v Speaker 2>like she doesn't want that or want to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, oh, this is really awkward. But

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<v Speaker 2>most of the guys that are in the strip club

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<v Speaker 2>usually are there because they want to be there. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest. With bachelor parties, that's not something

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<v Speaker 2>I normally would attack. I wouldn't go for a party.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of bachelor guys are there to spend money

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<v Speaker 2>at the rack. A lot of them aren't there to

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<v Speaker 2>like go in the back and spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money dancing. So I would usually pick someone, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>in the back, and usually if you're sitting in the back,

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of wanting to come up and be talked to.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes you have dudes that are like major strip

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<v Speaker 2>club dudes, and they sit there in the back and

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a power thing for them, like they

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<v Speaker 2>get to pick the girl. They have girl after girl

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<v Speaker 2>after girl coming up to them and they say no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>and then finally then they get to pick who they want,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So it's definitely they're the big guy in

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<v Speaker 2>the room and they can be that whenever they go

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<v Speaker 2>right right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Yeah, what you said there about guys wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to be there and guys showing up. It's a difference

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<v Speaker 1>between if I want to find real golfers, I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>to a golf course. If I go to top golf,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna possibly just see casuals who are hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>right m h. The little research I have done because

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a good student, tells me you are

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<v Speaker 1>a speedgler. Girl. I had heard the name Spiegler before

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry, but I did a little research today.

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<v Speaker 1>What goes into being a Spiegler girl. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of the most prestigious agency to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of. And I spoke to a girl earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>week and I laid out all of my conditions that

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<v Speaker 1>I would need if I was a beautiful porn girl. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I need a contract, a deposit, I need a flight

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<v Speaker 1>paid for, I need this that, blah blah blah. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the girl laughed in my face and said it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like that. And then at the end she goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>unless maybe you're a Spiegler girl, And I get stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in my head. I'm like, oh, so that's Goldman Sachs.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like that's the top of the top. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you become a Spiegler girl? And what goes into

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<v Speaker 1>remaining a Spiegler girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So my journey with feelers kind of interesting. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>watching Sasha Gray on Tyra Banks when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was with Spiegler at the time. He came

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<v Speaker 2>with her to that interview like on TV and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they just painted her in this like

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<v Speaker 2>awful light, they made her dress like this church girl,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I don't know, I just remember Sasha really

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<v Speaker 2>holding her own and just telling Tyrus straight up like

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<v Speaker 2>you aren't the judge of what makes one woman feel

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<v Speaker 2>empowered versus another, you know, So just because other women

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel empowered by doing that doesn't mean that others might.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think another important thing that I have said

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<v Speaker 2>on other podcasts I just want to throw in there

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<v Speaker 2>is that so not all sex work has to be empowering,

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<v Speaker 2>Like sex work can just be work, can just be

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<v Speaker 2>a job. So I think sometimes there's always this thing

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<v Speaker 2>with Spieler and also you know, our director, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>So I on my contract is up. So I called him,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it didn't happen right away like that

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<v Speaker 2>So then I called back and it doesn't happen. So

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<v Speaker 2>I called back on two times. And then after the

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<v Speaker 2>two times it didn't, you know, I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>of shocked because I was the one barking up the tree,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't grab me. So then to have them call me,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like okay, And I was like what you know? Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I closed that door. I mean it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>him for a year and that first year was rough.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of medical things happened. It was

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<v Speaker 2>very unfortunate. But ever since I healed from all that,

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. Sure, I've heard interviews with him where he says

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<v Speaker 1>he looks for beautiful, professional perverted. So it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you had the first two and we were just

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on you getting a little more. You should have

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<v Speaker 1>picked up the phone like, Hey, George, sorry, I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>a sec I'll get back to you. Blah blah blah, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>throw it out there. But I'm glad I was not perverted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet, So I think it was best that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go with Spiegler right away. I think I think that

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<v Speaker 2>things happened for a reason. I got flooded the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>out when I started coming out here to La so

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<v Speaker 2>like that, just like that journey for me really happened

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<v Speaker 2>with n OC and then I think when I was

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<v Speaker 2>ready to go to Spiegler, it really was time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I am happy that I think that. Yeah, I look

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<v Speaker 2>back on it that that's I think, that's good how

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<v Speaker 1>You said something in there that was interesting. You said

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<v Speaker 1>you actually went to your parents and talked about that,

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<v Speaker 1>so your parents know what you do. Comfortable with it? Supportive, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I read you grew up in Portland.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Beaverton technically, but like most of my adult

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<v Speaker 2>life in Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, little weird up in that area in a

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<v Speaker 1>good way. Okay, Yeah. Did that contribute to an upraising

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<v Speaker 1>or is that the right word? Yeah? An upraising? Now

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<v Speaker 1>when you were growing up, did that being in that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of environment a more and I don't mean this

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<v Speaker 1>politically like liberal, a little more progressive of everybody environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was your town, maybe it wasn't. Did that

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<v Speaker 1>make it easier to get into stuff like this? I

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<v Speaker 1>went to twelve years of Catholic school. I have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but sexual shame. So so I can't imagine even going

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<v Speaker 1>to my parents and being like I'm doing this now

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<v Speaker 1>and then being like, I am so proud of your

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<v Speaker 1>new ten thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my parents were. Here's the thing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just like I just threw porn in their face.

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<v Speaker 2>It was started out with camming and it went to

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<v Speaker 2>stripping like it was like they were slightly introduced, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as time went on. Interestingly enough, though I'd only had

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<v Speaker 2>been camming for like a little bit when I had

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<v Speaker 2>talked to Spiegler right away, and so I talked to

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<v Speaker 2>my stepdad about it, and he was pretty supportive about it,

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<v Speaker 2>shockingly because he knew who Spiegeler was and he just said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, lil if this is what you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do with your life, you know, we can't stop you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an adult and we just want you to be

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<v Speaker 2>safe and we want you to you know, live your life.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mom, for me, what she always wanted was

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted me to like live in some rap shit

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<v Speaker 2>apartment in New York audition for Broadway. And that's like

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<v Speaker 2>all I do all the time, like with a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of girls. That's like what she envisioned for me for

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<v Speaker 2>my life. So like with her, like in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>I think she kind of is happy that I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, which is happy for her. And then also

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<v Speaker 2>she's earned. She was the hardest to convince, like the camming.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember we went on a trip to Mexico and

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<v Speaker 2>was telling her about it and she was crying and

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<v Speaker 2>she was upset, and I think, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just it's a reflection on her. What did Like

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<v Speaker 2>what are people gonna think, Oh my god, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell them what you're doing. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna think what did I do wrong in my

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<v Speaker 2>own line of parenting to cause you to thray to

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<v Speaker 2>do this, And it's like, not that deep. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like that. You know. My mom was an amazing parent,

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<v Speaker 2>so was my stepdad. I had parents around me all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. They raised me very well. Sometimes people do

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<v Speaker 2>just choose to do these things. And I, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a big sluck growing up. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>only had sex with seven people prior to getting into

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<v Speaker 2>the industry, So I don't know. I just was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looking at it, and I was in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this can't be the last penis I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be with, Like, there's no way, and it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, thankfully. Yeah, we're going to take a break

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be right back. My guest today, Lily Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find her own OnlyFans at Lily underscore Bell

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<v Speaker 1>xxx and links to all of our social media is

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode description. When We're back with my guest Today,

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<v Speaker 1>Lily Bell. You can find her on only fans at

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<v Speaker 1>Lily Underscore Bell xxx. Lily, how are you now? You

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<v Speaker 1>said something there and I want to touch on it

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<v Speaker 1>real quick earlier before the break about your mom wanting

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<v Speaker 1>you to go to New York and becoming a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>struggling Broadway actor, and there's like a level of quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote respectability about that. Right. Was your mom an artist?

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<v Speaker 1>Was she just did she always want you to just

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<v Speaker 1>be a little superstar or how did that come about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I went to an art school growing up, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was a big influence on it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we loved Broadway together. She wasn't a big artist.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she just loved the movie fame and just

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<v Speaker 2>I started going to art school, she probably was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like this could be something, you know, And yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well look I'm going to ask some stuff out

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Our game today is called porn Words. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you ten words. I'm gonna act them out

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I can't say the word at all in

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. You can pass at any time, and if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a time on the clock, we'll go back and

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<v Speaker 1>These are all horn related categories. So anything I'm doing here,

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<v Speaker 1>the clock and I'm gonna begin. Now, what's this? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Number two? Oral sex on a guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what am I supposed to say to that?

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<v Speaker 1>You could say anything. I'll tell you if you're right

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<v Speaker 1>or wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh splacio, Nope, keep going ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Number three a kink or fetish. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I fucked it up. Nope, I fucked it up. You

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<v Speaker 1>get a point for that. It was fetish. Number four,

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<v Speaker 1>brand new to the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>A new girl.

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<v Speaker 1>No type of category, brand new to the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh new, new, new blood, new starlet.

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<v Speaker 1>Easier, easier than all that. Not young, not teen, brand new.

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<v Speaker 1>I skip next one. I just drank a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of water. Now I have to There you go. Number six,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a woman. I just drank a bunch of water.

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<v Speaker 1>This came out of me. I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is p squirt. Okay. Seven? Uh uh, taking money from somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>Taking money in the industry. No, it's a type. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, uh, the the Dominatrix. No times up, time

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<v Speaker 1>is up, damn Finn doom.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that I wouldn't have gotten that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, uh for a tie breaker, because I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>how many? And then just for the audience that they

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<v Speaker 1>and that. We're just going off this number for the tiebreaker.

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<v Speaker 1>How many male performers have you worked with? And I

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<v Speaker 1>will be packaging this and sending it to your religious

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<v Speaker 1>leader back home, whoever that may be.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I would say like sixty something.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like sixty ninety one. Wow, yeah, and nine

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<v Speaker 1>away from triple digits. That's pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that's not even counting. No, Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if they catch everybody, like, because I've already

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<v Speaker 2>yet that I've never had sex with, So that that's

417
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<v Speaker 2>ninety two.

418
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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Oh yeah, that's that's true. We're not doing this

419
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<v Speaker 1>as a tool body counting over.

420
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<v Speaker 2>At one hundred. Well, as far as male performers, I

421
00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:09.240
<v Speaker 2>think I might because I fucked a few new people

422
00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:10.920
<v Speaker 2>with scenes that haven't been out yet, So I think

423
00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I might be almost set one hundred.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Now that's solid sold.

425
00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Because that's the thing with male talent that's interesting is

426
00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:20.480
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you start getting repeat people you know. But if you're.

427
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Traveling, sure, these only count people individually, so one name

428
00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>might count for three four. Yeah, your own content, your

429
00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:36.400
<v Speaker 1>own only fans, your own However, you sell content, which

430
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.839
<v Speaker 1>again links everything in the episode description. What type of

431
00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:41.200
<v Speaker 1>content do you like to produce for yourself?

432
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<v Speaker 2>Well, what sells for me is me having sex a

433
00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:49.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of times with someone that has a very large

434
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<v Speaker 2>penis that is usually a different skin color than me.

435
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Trying to find a politically correct way to say that.

436
00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Let me pause you on the politically correct because I've

437
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<v Speaker 1>talked to some other girls. I've to black performers, white performers,

438
00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to whatever people don't like sometimes terms like

439
00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>interracial or BBC or anything like that. And I've spoken

440
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.559
<v Speaker 1>to male black performers who just say, like, I don't

441
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:15.400
<v Speaker 1>give a shit whatsoever.

442
00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't really care.

443
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you get caught up in any of that

444
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:23.119
<v Speaker 1>or is there an understanding that like this is a

445
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.359
<v Speaker 1>progressive industry in general, and just if we use terminology

446
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.440
<v Speaker 1>it's for a different reason. Maybe not, Maybe that's not

447
00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:31.440
<v Speaker 1>how they feel. I don't know.

448
00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I come from a very politically correct

449
00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:36.880
<v Speaker 2>part of the world. I'm from Portland, so like I

450
00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:38.839
<v Speaker 2>have a special need, sister, I have a gay father.

451
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I will never say things like, you know, I come

452
00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.880
<v Speaker 2>out here, people say the word retarded all the time.

453
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.599
<v Speaker 2>I would get in so much trouble back home in

454
00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>my household if I said something like that, like you

455
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.799
<v Speaker 2>can't you know, but I also grew up around some

456
00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:54.920
<v Speaker 2>a different environment, you know, and then also having a

457
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:58.599
<v Speaker 2>gay dad, I would never say that's so gay, it's interesting,

458
00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:02.359
<v Speaker 2>like you know, that type of upbringing, so you know. Also,

459
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I am an activist, so like I definitely wouldn't ever

460
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>use like any race play like I just and I remember,

461
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I will admit, on the beginning days of sex Panther,

462
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I would have guys that would call me that would

463
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.319
<v Speaker 2>do race play and it just left me with a

464
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.000
<v Speaker 2>funny feeling. And so I remember like I told this dude,

465
00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, after like the BLM movement, you know, was

466
00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:31.519
<v Speaker 2>really intense, and I did some marching and stuff, and

467
00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess a lot of girls basically like

468
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:37.720
<v Speaker 2>had this major thing where they were like, we're not

469
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>doing race play anymore. And I think that burst a

470
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:44.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff, which is good, but it upset a

471
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of people. And then this dude just bitched me

472
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:51.240
<v Speaker 2>out on the phone and was so pissed and said, oh,

473
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:54.519
<v Speaker 2>you fucking sluts not doing this anymore, just so bad

474
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.960
<v Speaker 2>at me. And I was like, well, I think he's

475
00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.640
<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of girls that are doing this right now.

476
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.640
<v Speaker 2>But it's just like, yeah, I would never participate in

477
00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I would listen to it, and I just I don't know.

478
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 2>It's just interesting. Also, I never knew that it was

479
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>such a big thing, Like prior to getting in the industry,

480
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that there were white guys that fantasized

481
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.200
<v Speaker 2>about black men like that. I didn't realize that that

482
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.440
<v Speaker 2>was even a thing, right, So it just was kind

483
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:23.359
<v Speaker 2>of a shock to me.

484
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's it's an odd thing

485
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.759
<v Speaker 1>because again I have spoken to black performers before, and

486
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 1>some of them are what I would expect, like race play.

487
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Fuck out of here. No, like I'll start swinging on

488
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:39.759
<v Speaker 1>you if you want some race play, and that's fine.

489
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, anyone can do. My opinion on sex in

490
00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>general is just that anyone could do whatever they want

491
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>to do as long as there's no kids or dogs

492
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>in the rooms. To the golden in there. Uh, that's

493
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>not my business, you know, I don't care, stay out

494
00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>of it. But yeah, it's weird, because it's not weird,

495
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:00.079
<v Speaker 1>it's just whatever. I've spoken to male black performers and

496
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, I don't give a shit whatever you

497
00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.599
<v Speaker 1>call me, whatever you want, I'm inside you. But then

498
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>from an acting standpoint, in a sense, you have to

499
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>be comfortable with it. On the other side, So even

500
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 1>though there here's.

501
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>What I see, I think, uh, I see Asian girls

502
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:23.720
<v Speaker 2>obviously using their Asian hair, you know, culture to you know,

503
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.839
<v Speaker 2>promote themselves in that way, which I think they're able

504
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.839
<v Speaker 2>to do that because they're Asian. Sure, and so that

505
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>makes sense if I all of a sudden am like

506
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm shooting with this hot Asian girl, Like, it's a

507
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>little different if a white person is doing it. So

508
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>like if I'm doing race play and saying I'm shooting

509
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>with this BBC, Like it just looks bad. But like

510
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>if a black person is talking about themselves in that way,

511
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that doesn't look bad. They can say

512
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 2>whatever they want because that's their culture and they're able

513
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.359
<v Speaker 2>to say what they want. So it's kind of I

514
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.319
<v Speaker 2>guess that's kind of where I lean with it, Like

515
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.839
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't, yeah, because like it's not like they're saying

516
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.440
<v Speaker 2>to me like, oh, you t have tight white whatever,

517
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>like they're they're not really doing that to me, so

518
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>and they're not, and I don't see a lot of

519
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>my I guess maybe I haven't checked. I'm like, I

520
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess they do when I companies label me white

521
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 2>like that, But I don't know if I see other

522
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:22.640
<v Speaker 2>male talents doing that to me that are black that

523
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I work with, I'm not sure. Yeah, it's interesting everywhere.

524
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>We had a little tech issue, not a big deal.

525
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.599
<v Speaker 1>You you were saying though about how you're not normally

526
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>labeled as white performer Lily Bell. You know it's and

527
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a totally fair point. Is very weird,

528
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Sorry.

529
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I definitely got thrown into that though, Like I would.

530
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say that like I, but like I definitely

531
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:50.559
<v Speaker 2>got thrown into the snow bunny category for sure, And

532
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that that was going to be what

533
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 2>my thing was going to be, you know, Like I

534
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 2>didn't know that. Yeah. So it's interesting when you get

535
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>thrown into something and you're like, oh, okay.

536
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>It's weird. We've had this large cultural shift in language too.

537
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Write like you don't have an issue performing with black

538
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>male performers, Yeah, but you might or other people might,

539
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.279
<v Speaker 1>or anything else. If they just put a simple white

540
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>girl gets destroyed by BBC, it's a little bit like, uh,

541
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't even say Lily Bell and Isaiah

542
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Maxwell or whoever it is. But if you go back

543
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>in the history of it, this industry was using the

544
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 1>word tranny like it was nothing for the longest time

545
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 1>for transperformers. At the same time they were giving transperformers work.

546
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 1>So it's a real weird dichotomy where we're moving towards

547
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 1>a thing where we need to be more conscious of language,

548
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>which can get a little scary and a little dangerous

549
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>if we pushed too far. But I do think we

550
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>need to have a little more cognizance of who we're

551
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about. When we're talking about we don't have to

552
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>nest necessarily classify everything to a small category. Tiny white

553
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>girl gets destroyed. It's not necessary, you know.

554
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hear you on that. I think you know. Uh,

555
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting because you know, I had a situation with

556
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 2>the company where basically, uh, I showed up on set

557
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>the script was not sent to me prior. They basically

558
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.240
<v Speaker 2>want me to do major race play. Say BBC say

559
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 2>things like this. I say, I'm not saying things like this.

560
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I said never when I've worked for Doghart or Black

561
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 2>or any of that never made me say these things.

562
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it. The girl director looked at me

563
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 2>and goes, well, it's not like I'm making you say

564
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:38.559
<v Speaker 2>the N word, and he said it with the hardy

565
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.279
<v Speaker 2>R and I was like whoa. And he's like, I've

566
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>changed a script now, and he got all mad and

567
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 2>then changed it and he goes, how about how about

568
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 2>you say this? Is it true what they say once

569
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 2>you go black? You never? I go, no, that's still

570
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>race play. I'm not doing that right, And then uh,

571
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>he was such a dick the whole thing. And then

572
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 2>he made he packed up the whole set, made us

573
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>wait on the couch, didn't give us our checks for

574
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>like forty five minutes, you know, and then what happens

575
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>when that DVD comes out? My face right next to

576
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 2>like Lily Bell takes BBC like literally what you were saying?

577
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 2>My face right there? I was like, you know what

578
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>he thought? He goes, bet that bitch doesn't want to

579
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>do race play, I'm gonna put your face right next

580
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.319
<v Speaker 2>to that word and you are not gonna be able

581
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>to do anything about it. And that's exactly what he did.

582
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you, is that guy no listed

583
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 1>from now into eternity or are you comfortable working with

584
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 1>that person again?

585
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Not the male talent male talent free the director. I

586
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think I would work for that company again. No. Yeah,

587
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's it's an older company. It's it's a

588
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>company that's been around for for a while. But I

589
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>mean we've come a long way. I mean we used to.

590
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean people used to say the N word, you know,

591
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 2>when it used to happen. I don't know if you

592
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:53.799
<v Speaker 2>remember Mow the Monster I do.

593
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I do a show called I Said what or a

594
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 1>segment called I said, what right, And I go back

595
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and I pull old clips and the idea is never

596
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to throw anyone under the bus. I want to hear you,

597
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, Lily Bell going like ooh, I like taking

598
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a big dick, blah blah blah blah. But I went

599
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>back for one girl and I found some stuff and

600
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I showed my wife, because she's my producer on the show.

601
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, you think I should play this clip?

602
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 1>And it was just Edward and word and word and

603
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>word enward and I was like, yeah, oh, and she

604
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 1>laughed because I was joking. Obviously I'm not gonna play

605
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.759
<v Speaker 1>that fucking clip. But I bring it to the performer

606
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 1>and off air, I said, hey, I have some clips

607
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 1>for you to play. She goes, ooh, are any of

608
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 1>them the race play stuff? And I said I said,

609
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I said no, and I explained the story I just

610
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>told you, and she says to me, and I give

611
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 1>her tons of fucking credit for this. She goes, if

612
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.039
<v Speaker 1>you have one, we could play it. I didn't. I

613
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't have one. There was no reason to pull it.

614
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>But she goes, we could play it and we could

615
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 1>talk about how things have changed in the industry and

616
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>how that used to be acceptable among performers and this

617
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and that. Again, I won't call out that individual, but

618
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good thing that times have changed

619
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>in that way where we're a little more cognizant of it.

620
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>But I do get scared when we get to the

621
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>point of not wanting to categorize anything that it could

622
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 1>hurt some performers who don't look as beautiful as Lily Bell,

623
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>like BBW. I would fucking hate to be classified as BBW.

624
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 1>But if it was getting me more work and I

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<v Speaker 1>was a curveer woman, that kind of only benefits me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at the end of the day, or categories,

628
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<v Speaker 2>people search up categories. That's always what it's going to

629
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<v Speaker 2>come down to, you know. I think there's a way

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<v Speaker 2>you can carry yourself in this industry where you're not

631
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<v Speaker 2>stepping on toes, you know, doing too much of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, if you label some of your stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in some ways, you know, I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's up to people's discretion. I think everybody has their

635
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<v Speaker 2>own opinions on these things. You know. Obviously, if you're

636
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<v Speaker 2>classifying things into racial stuff, you're going to probably make

637
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<v Speaker 2>more money. Like it is just how it is. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, either you can yeah, don't do what you want.

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<v Speaker 2>But like last thing I'll say is like about the

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<v Speaker 2>race thing is how we also have come a long ways.

641
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<v Speaker 2>I remember this one scene I did for dog Fart,

642
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<v Speaker 2>and I don't care about talking about dog Fart because

643
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<v Speaker 2>you know, they know what they've done. But they had

644
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<v Speaker 2>a scene once where I basually I supposed to be

645
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<v Speaker 2>looking through a sex shop. There's a DVD I picked

646
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<v Speaker 2>up and I was like, literally, black girl, she there's

647
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<v Speaker 2>Confederate flags all over the back of the thing, tons

648
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<v Speaker 2>of white dudes, you know, like gang and I'm just like,

649
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<v Speaker 2>you guys, probably should put this one in the back,

650
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<v Speaker 2>Like this one is wild. Like I'm like I cannot

651
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<v Speaker 2>believe that shit like this was made and like it

652
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<v Speaker 2>was super normal, you know. But I guess, you know,

653
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<v Speaker 2>we look at so much of our cinema, so much

654
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<v Speaker 2>of our stuff that we used to look at and

655
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<v Speaker 2>like like I'll watch you know, episodes of the Office,

656
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<v Speaker 2>you know, like where he like hides under the desk,

657
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<v Speaker 2>like when that one worker comes, you know, and I'm like,

658
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<v Speaker 2>holy shit, you know, I'm like that's really rethe you know,

659
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<v Speaker 2>But it's like things were different back then.

660
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<v Speaker 1>They just were you know what you specifically talk about

661
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<v Speaker 1>the unfortunately named dogfart dot com, which has so many

662
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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you. Uh, one of their umbrella,

663
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<v Speaker 1>or the one of the sites underneath her umbrella was

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<v Speaker 1>combang dot com. And that was I think the worst

665
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<v Speaker 1>offender for everything you're talking about here. White dudes with

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<v Speaker 1>a black girl, okay, blowbang uh, And I think it

667
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<v Speaker 1>was Combang, I'm pretty sure, and all of them in

668
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<v Speaker 1>Confederate shirts, and it was about how the girl's black

669
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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend she did on them or something, so now she's

670
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<v Speaker 1>gonna get revenge on them with white guy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they that's but I'll be honest with you though, when

672
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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid eighteen years old, definitely not younger

673
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<v Speaker 1>than that, I used to like seeing a hot black

674
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<v Speaker 1>girl in a scene. So I would kind of look

675
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<v Speaker 1>at it and be like, oh, that's weird. Those gentlemen

676
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<v Speaker 1>must be from the South. Let's just continue on with this.

677
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<v Speaker 2>See.

678
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have changed since then, We've grown since then.

679
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<v Speaker 1>I understand that if we could go back and digitally

680
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<v Speaker 1>remove the Confederate flags, I'd be more comfortable going back

681
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<v Speaker 1>and watching those videos again.

682
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny. I I'll up you one

683
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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see if you feel this ups you one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what the Blue Pill Group is? The

685
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<v Speaker 2>Blue Man pill Group.

686
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the blue Man pill Group is.

687
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<v Speaker 1>I know what the blue so it's not the pill

688
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<v Speaker 1>Man group.

689
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<v Speaker 2>It's I think it's the Blue pill Man Group. Yeah. Anyway,

690
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<v Speaker 2>if you look it up on Pornhub, just type that in,

691
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>it'll come up. It's basically a group of old geriatric

692
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<v Speaker 2>men and they're just like fucking the shit out of

693
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<v Speaker 2>a girl, you know, and they'll do just like different things,

694
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<v Speaker 2>and so it's a take on the you know, Blue

695
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<v Speaker 2>Men of Vegas and then it's just you know, and

696
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<v Speaker 2>they're really good at it. And it's wild because that

697
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<v Speaker 2>was the first thing I was showing by my agent

698
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<v Speaker 2>when I started. I remember I came to the office

699
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<v Speaker 2>in Chatsworth and they showed me that and I was

700
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<v Speaker 2>just like, so girls are doing things like that. I

701
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<v Speaker 2>was like, is that something I'm gonna have to do?

702
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<v Speaker 2>Like I just was like, holy shit, you know, but

703
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<v Speaker 2>it's funny. Now I would totally do something like that,

704
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<v Speaker 2>Like I would so do it. And it's yeah, like

705
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 2>who cares. I think that that's fun and like old men,

706
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 2>they know how to lay it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, well, how old are we talking? Last question? Then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a break. We'll come back. How old

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking about?

710
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<v Speaker 2>I will leave in their high seventies, so.

711
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>You'd be comfortable with that now I have Yeah.

712
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I've had sex with men that are in their seventies.

713
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and where'd you hide the body after you killed

714
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<v Speaker 1>them with the heart attack?

715
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<v Speaker 2>It's shocking. I think if you take care of yourself,

716
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 2>you'd be surprised, you know. Yeah, there's definitely men that yeah,

717
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<v Speaker 2>I think. Yeah, age is just a number when it

718
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>comes to men's libido. Sometimes that's wild how they just

719
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 2>can keep going for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, folks, we're gonna take one more break. My

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<v Speaker 1>guest Lily Bell. Find her on only fans at Lily

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back. All right, folks, we're back today

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<v Speaker 1>with my guest Lily Bell. You can find our ou

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<v Speaker 1>ask you do you like being put in awkward positions?

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<v Speaker 2>It depends I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, let's try and put you in an awkward

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<v Speaker 1>to build your own celebrity fantasy gang bang. Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a catch. You don't actually get to pick the individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna spin these wheels which you can't see, but

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<v Speaker 1>the folks at home are seeing the wheel spinning currently.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, those wheels are so cool. The graphics are awesome. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the wheels are gonna determine who will be participants in

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<v Speaker 1>your Lady's Choice gang bang. There's an athlete wheel, an

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<v Speaker 1>actor wheel, and the third wheel is just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. Your job while building this gangbang is to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me who goes where and then give me your

741
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<v Speaker 1>logic for it, Like did you pick this guy for

742
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<v Speaker 1>your mouth because like, oh, he's got great abs, I'd

743
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 1>love to stare at those abs. Or did you pick

744
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<v Speaker 1>this guy for your ass because maybe like he seems

745
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<v Speaker 1>like a small dick loser, like I wouldn't have to

746
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<v Speaker 1>worry about that. Can I give you your participants in?

747
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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna guv with each like one? So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get lost?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you won't get lost, You'll be totally fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's play lady's choice.

751
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<v Speaker 2>Let's play lady's choice.

752
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelce, Channing Tatum, Ed Kemper, Lily you a true

753
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<v Speaker 1>crime fan? Little I d amn.

754
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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot about Ed Kemper.

755
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<v Speaker 1>Travis kelce Uh, you get to borrow him from Taylor

756
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 1>for a while, and that's pretty solid. You know, maybe

757
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>he never even goes back. Uh your actor Real Channing Tatum,

758
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 1>mister magic Mike, am I right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean look at the man the abs alone that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work. Uh. And your third guy, unfortunately is Ed Kemper.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pros to him. He's six foot nine. I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be able to use the little dick loser in

764
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<v Speaker 1>this scenario. The cons are unfortunately he did murder ten people.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, Lily Bell, if you would please give me

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00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:06.639
<v Speaker 1>your lady's choice selection Travis Kelce, Channing Tatum, and Ed Kemper.

767
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I really love that you chose a Kemper. I

768
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<v Speaker 2>must save him for last I'm gonna put. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Travis kelcey, I don't even know if I have this

770
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<v Speaker 2>feeling like he's such a little douchebag that I kind

771
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<v Speaker 2>of would want to just like I feel like he's

772
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<v Speaker 2>a big cuddle bug, like he almost would maybe want

773
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<v Speaker 2>to have it up in his butt, and like I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking I'd give him my ass, but then I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he probably maybe wants it up his you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you never know. I would. I would, I would probably

777
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<v Speaker 2>if anything, I think we would share buttholes together, Okay, fair,

778
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<v Speaker 2>I would say that because I'm definitely saving my vagina

779
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<v Speaker 2>for Channing because I have had a huge crush on him.

780
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<v Speaker 2>I love him a lot, Like he's a big, big

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity crush of mine. Magic mic step up anyway. With

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<v Speaker 2>ed Kemper, I just feel like only fitting to choose

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<v Speaker 2>my mouth slash throat because which I'm sure you know,

784
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<v Speaker 2>he killed his mother and fucked her throat, and you know,

785
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<v Speaker 2>she basically said to him the night before he killed her,

786
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<v Speaker 2>he said, she said, I've never had sex because of you,

787
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<v Speaker 2>you know, blah blah blah, and you know he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I bet, And so he killed her and

789
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<v Speaker 2>then sucked her throat and then said to her poetically,

790
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<v Speaker 2>well now you have had sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that. I believe. At one point he also

792
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<v Speaker 1>ripped the vocal cords out and said that bitch wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>shut up. I think is what he told the police.

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<v Speaker 2>See. The only reason why I know of this is

795
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<v Speaker 2>not because I watched like a documentary about him. It

796
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<v Speaker 2>was that Netflix.

797
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<v Speaker 1>Oh love it, give me a third fucking season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was really good, really good, so so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're gonna wrap this up. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>few other questions though that I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the future. What is coming up for you? Are there

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<v Speaker 1>any major kinks of fetishes or types of scenes that

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<v Speaker 1>you've yet to shoot that you're excited to shoot coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean I I might. So I'm still planning

805
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<v Speaker 2>to do my debut anal coming up here soon. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know when that's going to happen, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to happen at some point, if not this year,

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<v Speaker 2>next year. I know it's going to be happening before

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty. So I'm twenty eight right now. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get ready and excited for that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to happen last year and then because of my whole

812
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<v Speaker 2>medical thing, I wasn't able to still want to do

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<v Speaker 2>a which McCall it a blowbang yet to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I did get to do my gang bang last year.

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<v Speaker 2>What I really want to do for myself, which isn't

816
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<v Speaker 2>even like super work related, like, yes, I want to

817
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<v Speaker 2>do more features and things like that. And I did

818
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<v Speaker 2>just do a really great feature for Digital Playground this year.

819
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<v Speaker 2>It was really fun. And then I have a feature

820
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<v Speaker 2>coming out for Cinema in the next month or so.

821
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<v Speaker 2>I also have something for Playboy coming out in the

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<v Speaker 2>next month or so. That's exciting. But really what I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do is travel. Me and my friend Maya

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf we were talking about going to Amsterdam for ex

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<v Speaker 2>Viz in September, so I might go to New York

826
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<v Speaker 2>before that, then go to Amsterdam, then go to Berlin.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just like planning to do all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of want to travel to Europe again

829
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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted to go last year and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>able to go because I was shooting a feature.

831
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't know the names of the companies exactly,

832
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.159
<v Speaker 1>but do you shoot in Europe ever or no?

833
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 2>I have So the last time I was in Europe,

834
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I got flown out to shoot for the company Door Cell,

835
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>and so I got to be in Paris and shoot

836
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:46.119
<v Speaker 2>for them, and then I got to stay an extra

837
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 2>week and just kind of fuck around and that was fun.

838
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 1>Where's the crazy hardcore place? Not like violent or anything

839
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:55.079
<v Speaker 1>like that. But is it prog or Yeah?

840
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Frog and Budapest? Yes, okay, and it is Czech Republic?

841
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Is that them? Like you?

842
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I barely know where Pennsylvania is. I'm in

843
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, so yeah, sure in that region is where

844
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they do all the crazy stuff. I believe you've shot

845
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>a VR scene before, right, am?

846
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 2>A lot? Oh god, a lot?

847
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>What is different about that shooting wise? Being you? Yeah,

848
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 1>it seems like is it a hassle to you? You

849
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:26.760
<v Speaker 1>almost look like, oh, it's exhausting.

850
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, it's exhausting. I'm not the biggest stand of

851
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 2>shooting VR. Yes, I like shooting it because aesthetically for

852
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>my fans, it's a lot of people love jerking off

853
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 2>to VR. I I've dated a few guys that love

854
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 2>jerking off to VR. Yeah, so it's just uh. I

855
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 2>I definitely like it for that reason because I like

856
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 2>pleasing my fans. But as far as like my pleasure goes,

857
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 2>it's very robotic for us. You know, the guy cannot

858
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 2>talk to me, he cannot really touch me or move

859
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 2>that much or else the camera will move. You know,

860
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I have to make sure that I'm covering penetration. So

861
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times I can't rub myself, Like if

862
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm rubbing myself when I'm in Doggie, you know, I'm

863
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>not able to turn my face very well because I'm rubbing,

864
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>So then I'm not able to then pleasure myself because

865
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.000
<v Speaker 2>then I'm supposed to be giving a full performance. And

866
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>then if I'm rubbing myself in Missionary, a lot of

867
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 2>times you might not be able to see penetration that well. Right,

868
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:23.599
<v Speaker 2>So it's like there's some you know. So it's just

869
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>it's more robotic for me. But it is fun to

870
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.760
<v Speaker 2>do some costplays like I always find those fun. Like

871
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I just got a little award from BIZOUI that was

872
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.039
<v Speaker 2>cool for this, like Katherine Catherine the great costplays I did.

873
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 2>And then I did like a rinera Targarian one last

874
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 2>year that I wanted to award for and that.

875
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Was cool, very cool. So Your Digital Underground the four

876
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>episode feature Cards on the Table. It's been a massive hit,

877
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.599
<v Speaker 1>and I believe the fourth and final episode is out

878
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>now if people want to check that out. Do you

879
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>like the acting aspect of porn? Do you like? Do

880
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.639
<v Speaker 1>you like it to the point that it would same money,

881
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 1>same prestige level of website. One is more gonzo, one

882
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>is acting. Would you pick the acting over the other

883
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>one or no?

884
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, so here's the thing. I mean, it depends, like

885
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>each company's different. You know, for Lass cinema, when the

886
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 2>the acting is very real throughout the whole movie, it's

887
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 2>not porno acting. So when the sex happens, it's very

888
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 2>much like it's part of the story. It's kind of

889
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:31.480
<v Speaker 2>like you're watching an HBO show and then the sex happens,

890
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.320
<v Speaker 2>but instead of you just seeing like ten to fifteen

891
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.559
<v Speaker 2>seconds of softcore, now you're actually getting to see like

892
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.519
<v Speaker 2>fifteen to twenty five minutes of real sex, and then

893
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 2>the story just continues seamlessly, you know, yea to the

894
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.480
<v Speaker 2>next scene, which I really love. You know, with Digital Playground,

895
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:49.360
<v Speaker 2>it's a little more choppy. It's a little bit more

896
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 2>like a regular sex feature, where like the acting doesn't

897
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>really matter as much. Yes, it's a factor, but the

898
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 2>sex scenes are really what matters, and they're way more gonzo,

899
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Like I bring a lot of gonzo factor to my

900
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:06.519
<v Speaker 2>feature sex scenes. I definitely, but like with less Cinema,

901
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't like. I definitely am more like loving and

902
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.199
<v Speaker 2>passionate and where like the sex scene that's gonna come

903
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.559
<v Speaker 2>out for this lest cinema feature, it's way more like

904
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:19.480
<v Speaker 2>me and Nathan are having sex at home. It's like

905
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 2>you're really seeing us have sex. We're not opening up

906
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to camera. We're we're literally not aware of a camera

907
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.920
<v Speaker 2>like in feature films. I'm very aware of the camera,

908
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 2>but with LUs I don't have to be, which is

909
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, really great.

910
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 1>You have done a lot of these scenes in the past,

911
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and I believe it probably stems from your relationship. As

912
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you said, do Girl Girl scenes sell Do they sell well?

913
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I love shooting Girl Girl. Unfortunately they don't sell well

914
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>for me on my platform. I wish they did. I

915
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.239
<v Speaker 2>know it does work for some girls, and it sucks

916
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 2>because I love shooting it. So if I'm gonna shoot

917
00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:58.639
<v Speaker 2>with a girl, it's because I really want to fuck her.

918
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but if for companies it sells well, I

919
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 2>sell well for companies for Girl Girl, but not my

920
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 2>only fans.

921
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I uh, I've talked to my wife about this before.

922
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:13.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm likely gonna die young. We've talked about how people

923
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 1>who stay healthy and everything can go into their seventies

924
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 1>and fuck uh not me. But I've talked to my

925
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 1>wife about this before, and she's bisexual. I would say.

926
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.719
<v Speaker 1>She said, if I were to die, it would only

927
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 1>be girls from now on and not like a insecurity issue,

928
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:29.039
<v Speaker 1>like let me just reassure him, because I told her,

929
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, go out and get some dick and

930
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.239
<v Speaker 1>make sure they're rich too. If something happens to me,

931
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 1>If you could only be with guys or girls the

932
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:36.559
<v Speaker 1>rest of your life, what would you pick.

933
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:42.760
<v Speaker 2>That's so hard because I've been having kind of an

934
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>interesting thing in my sexuality recently, where like, I want

935
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.840
<v Speaker 2>more than anything to be a lesbian, Like I truly

936
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 2>like that would make my life so much easier. I'm

937
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:58.679
<v Speaker 2>not the biggest fan of men in general, you know,

938
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.079
<v Speaker 2>but I'm very attractive to them, and I really like

939
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.800
<v Speaker 2>them a lot in a lot of ways. But as

940
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 2>far as, like, you know, socially and the things that

941
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I've dealt with in sex work, you know, I've kind of,

942
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, I had a little bit of a you know,

943
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 2>viewpoint on some things, and so unfortunately I am very straight,

944
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 2>so I would have to say that I would just

945
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 2>be with men for the rest of my life. But

946
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 2>if I'm not having sex, Oh, it's just so hard

947
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 2>because I wish I was a lesbian so bad. I

948
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:32.639
<v Speaker 2>just want, you know, but it's like I do brave

949
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.360
<v Speaker 2>dick like it is. And then but it's like you

950
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 2>met you men, like not all you men?

951
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 1>That sounds better, No, every dude mostly don't. Don't you

952
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 1>go ahead?

953
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've dealt with some shit and it's it's crazy,

954
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, you guys are very visual creatures.

955
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 2>You're very you like variety. You know, It's it's tough

956
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 2>growing up in this like mindset of thinking things are

957
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 2>going to be like what you see in movies, and

958
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 2>then you realize it relationships aren't really like that and

959
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.440
<v Speaker 2>it's real life. And then you know, then trying to

960
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.280
<v Speaker 2>have a relationship realizing that and then also doing what

961
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I do. You know, it's you know, I think if

962
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I date another guy, I would want a date a

963
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 2>guy that isn't a fan of my friends. I want it,

964
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:21.480
<v Speaker 2>like I'm cool. If you watch porn, that's fine. I

965
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 2>know that it's just something that happens. I know there's

966
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:24.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of girls out there that are like, no,

967
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.440
<v Speaker 2>like if you watch porn, like we can't date. Here's

968
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the thing, Like I've watched it, so it's like, you know,

969
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 2>it's fine, Do I watch it now? No, but I

970
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.239
<v Speaker 2>prefer like, if I bring you around, you might see

971
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 2>a girl. Oh yeah, I kind of recognize her, but

972
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to know where by name?

973
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough? Yeah, oh that's it. Yeah, no, no, no, no,

974
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

975
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

976
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Last question for you, is there an exit plan or

977
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna be Granny Gilf Lily Bell takes b

978
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>well BBC obviously we would put on there giant.

979
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah right yeah at that point, grand like just

980
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 2>say all of it. I don't care.

981
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Well, your progressive opinion now forty years from

982
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 1>now will shift and say something horrendous. So is there

983
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:12.199
<v Speaker 1>an exit plan?

984
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:19.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's such an interesting question. I just always

985
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 2>see myself and sex work. I don't really know what

986
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.480
<v Speaker 2>my I'm like nervously picking out my brush. You know,

987
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:29.440
<v Speaker 2>this question is always interesting. I always saw myself being

988
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 2>a mill carrying out being someone like that is in

989
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the industry for ten plus years, you know, really being

990
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:38.880
<v Speaker 2>able to live off my name. As time has moved on,

991
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 2>the industry isn't what it used to be. The household

992
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:45.880
<v Speaker 2>porn star name doesn't really hold the same as it

993
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.559
<v Speaker 2>used to, you know, the only fans thing changed a

994
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:54.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff, So I I don't know. I would

995
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.679
<v Speaker 2>eventually do things behind the camera a little bit. I

996
00:51:56.679 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's where I'll stay. I have done

997
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Speaker 2>some scriptwriting. I do enjoy that. I see myself always

998
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 2>in sex work. Somehow, some way, I've wanted to do

999
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.079
<v Speaker 2>some talent liaison work, and I think that that would

1000
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 2>be really beneficial for me because I am a talent.

1001
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.559
<v Speaker 2>So I think a lot of talent would trust me

1002
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to be a talent liaison because I'm not coming from

1003
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, no knowledge. I definitely would probably take some courses,

1004
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.519
<v Speaker 2>though I've also even thought about school again in some

1005
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of way. The reason why I didn't go to

1006
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 2>school is because I felt like it was like I

1007
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:34.039
<v Speaker 2>had to do it for my parents and do it

1008
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 2>for my family, and do it because I was proving

1009
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff to other people. And now if I went back

1010
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:41.320
<v Speaker 2>to school, it's because I'd be doing it for me

1011
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 2>and what I want to learn I just be really

1012
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:48.039
<v Speaker 2>scared about like all of the student loans, like, because

1013
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 2>once you start, you can't really stop. So it's like

1014
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.039
<v Speaker 2>i'd really want to make sure that I know what

1015
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing. So I don't really know what my exit

1016
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>plan is. I don't know if I have one. I

1017
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:01.239
<v Speaker 2>guess I just trust that whatever happens to me happens.

1018
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:04.159
<v Speaker 2>And I've been so successful so far, so I just

1019
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of am gonna trust it to sex success will

1020
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 2>follow me as it has so far.

1021
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a perfect answer. My guest tonight was

1022
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Lily Bell. You find links to all of our social

1023
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>media in the episode description below, but make sure you

1024
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 1>had to wear only fans buy some lesbian porn really

1025
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>push it, be like ooh, I need to see you

1026
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 1>with more girl girl, and then you're throwing in your

1027
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 1>credit card number and whatever. Make sure you check out

1028
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>our only fans at Lily Underscore Bell xxx. Lily, thank

1029
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:33.039
<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming on with me today.

1030
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Thank you