Speaker 1: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but
Speaker 1: it appears that coming up in the twenty twenty six elections,
Speaker 1: Fresno is going to have a new candidate for the
Speaker 1: California State Assembly seat currently held by Joaquin Arambula, so
Speaker 1: Jaquin Arambula has been a California State Assembly member for
Speaker 1: a long time. He is term limiting out. Yes, we
Speaker 1: have term limits in the California legislature. Probably many of
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 2: Not know that.
Speaker 1: The California State Legislature, by the way, is the greatest
Speaker 1: counter example for every conservative who says, you know, we
Speaker 1: need solve the problem in Washington, we need term limits.
Speaker 2: Term these people need to get out off.
Speaker 1: Well, we have term limits in the California State Legislature.
Speaker 1: You have a twelve year term limit. You can serve
Speaker 1: no more than twelve years combined between the State Assembly
Speaker 1: and the State Senate. So you could do like four
Speaker 1: years in the State Senate in eight years in the
Speaker 1: State Assembly, or or you know, twelve years in one
Speaker 1: or twelve years in the other, and then you're done.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're term limited out.
Speaker 1: And this legislature is terrible in California, just in different
Speaker 1: ways than Washington. Is it has just created new and
Speaker 1: different bad pathologies among members of the state legislature anyway.
Speaker 1: Joaquina Arambula is term limiting out and his district covers
Speaker 1: a lot of like South Fresno, and running to replace him.
Speaker 1: Is maybe one of my least favorite people as far
Speaker 1: as what she believes. I don't know anything about her personally.
Speaker 1: I never met her personally. I'm not saying she's a
Speaker 1: bad person. I guess I don't know. Just don't like
Speaker 1: what she advocates and how she postures herself and sort
Speaker 1: of what she represents within local politics. Sandra Celodon, Sandra
Speaker 1: Selodon is running to replace Jauquina Rambula, and she got
Speaker 1: a big glowing column in the Fresno b yesterday from
Speaker 1: Merrik Worzowski, and it's really kind of.
Speaker 2: Indicative.
Speaker 1: I think of the irrelevance to which the Fresno Bee
Speaker 1: is sliding that they find literally the most left wing
Speaker 1: person to have their columnists do this big, glowing, gushing
Speaker 1: review over. So I want to go through this piece
Speaker 1: by Worzowski and talk a little bit about Selodon and
Speaker 1: what she represents. So the first thing to know is
Speaker 1: that Sandra Seladon is the CEO of Fresno Building Healthy Communities.
Speaker 1: Fresno Building Healthy Communities is one of these nonprofits that
Speaker 1: circles around the basically any government entity that has money
Speaker 1: there in a city council, the president, county, board of supervisors, president,
Speaker 1: unified school districts, board of trustees, et cetera. They circle
Speaker 1: around like vultures circling a carcass. And they have all
Speaker 1: of these altruistic sounding liberal ideas, proposing certain kinds of taxes,
Speaker 1: doing certain kinds of things, whatever, certain kinds of government programs.
Speaker 1: All sounds like these altruistic liberal ideas, but the point
Speaker 1: is to do them with a government contract going to them.
Speaker 1: They want to provide all these services with your taxpayer
Speaker 1: dollar flowing to them, so that it sounds like they're just, oh,
Speaker 1: we're just altruistically advocating for you know, some you know, bleeding.
Speaker 2: Heart liberal cause.
Speaker 1: But really what they want is your money in the
Speaker 1: form of a government contract. So Fresno Building Healthy Communities
Speaker 1: does that, Barriosunidos does that. All these different Fresno eoc
Speaker 1: very often does that. All these different local nonprofits do this.
Speaker 1: And Celadon and her Fresno building healthy communities has been
Speaker 1: at the forefront of it. So she was this big
Speaker 1: pusher of measure p the parks measure, which she and
Speaker 1: her organization was a big pusher of measure p She
Speaker 1: is also like super environmental, like wanting to stop any
Speaker 1: kind you know, one of the big local entities, pushing
Speaker 1: all kinds of the negative adverse environmental actions, lawsuits, et
Speaker 1: cetera that help stop development and hurt business in the
Speaker 1: city of Fresno. She also, notoriously this was the one
Speaker 1: notorious thing about her that Warzowski buries at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the article and just sort of glosses past. This
Speaker 1: was the sequence of events we had. The riots were
Speaker 1: happening in Minnesota after George Floyd was killed. Seladan tweets
Speaker 1: out a video of a police precinct burning to the ground,
Speaker 1: and she writes in the caption burn them all down.
Speaker 1: Everyone understandably says, what the hell. She deletes her whole
Speaker 1: Twitter account, and yet somehow still manages to finagle her
Speaker 1: way onto the Fresno Police Reform Commission, the commission that
Speaker 1: was set up under Mayor brand and Mayor elect Jerry
Speaker 1: Dyer to examine the police how should we reform policing
Speaker 1: in Fresno because we're all feeling bad after George Floyd,
Speaker 1: and somehow the police are racist in Fresno, so we
Speaker 1: need to set up a commission. And they set up
Speaker 1: poor Oliver Baines as the figurehead chair of the Police
Speaker 1: Reform Commission, and Sandra Celadon, of all people, this person
Speaker 1: who expressed the most obviously out of bounds idea for
Speaker 1: fresnens presidents who have never gone in at any level
Speaker 1: the citizenry, the city council, Nobody at any point had
Speaker 1: ever gone in for defund the police stuff other than Selodon,
Speaker 1: who's clearly a huge enthusiast for it.
Speaker 2: Celodan gets picked.
Speaker 1: To be the vice chair of this Police Reform Commission
Speaker 1: and produces this report full of recommendations that she clearly wrote.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Oliver Bain's I mean, Oliver bains
Speaker 1: seemingly was completely steamrolled on this whole thing or sell
Speaker 1: it On writes this report, which which apparently nobody but
Speaker 1: me bothered to actually read at the time, which basically
Speaker 1: said policing in America is inherently racist. Policing in America
Speaker 1: is rooted in gangs of Southern yahoos who would go around,
Speaker 1: get deputized, and go around with rifles to round up
Speaker 1: escape slaves. That was the whole point of policing in America,
Speaker 1: and that racist legacy lives on today and how it
Speaker 1: adversely impacts communities of color, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Every just chapter in verse, every.
Speaker 1: Line of modern day American left wing police discourse, all
Speaker 1: of which is bunk, all of which is historically bunk. Actually,
Speaker 1: the roots of modern day American policing lie in the
Speaker 1: Bobby's London's Police Force that was developed in nineteenth century,
Speaker 1: where the idea came about for a professionalized swarm set
Speaker 1: of swarm officers taking on almost a sort of quasi
Speaker 1: military style of behavior, with uniforms, with ranks, with discipline,
Speaker 1: with training, who would enforce the law. That model was
Speaker 1: exported from the United Kingdom to the United States of
Speaker 1: America and started on the East Coast and spread throughout
Speaker 1: the country. That's the model for modern day American policing.
Speaker 1: It owes far more to that than it does to
Speaker 1: anything having to do with rounding up slaves in the
Speaker 1: American South prior to the Civil War. It's a different tradition.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with it. But if you're
Speaker 1: a completely left wing nutjob, race obsessed loan, then of
Speaker 1: course that's the lens through which you view the universe.
Speaker 2: So I find Seladon.
Speaker 3: To be.
Speaker 2: Sort of the worst example.
Speaker 1: Of this, and I think an out of touch example
Speaker 1: with where Fresno is and has been. Fresno never bought
Speaker 1: in to the defund.
Speaker 3: The police nonsense.
Speaker 2: Never. I don't care if you're South President, North President whatever.
Speaker 1: No, Fresno never bought into the defund the police nonsense.
Speaker 1: She was able using her army of nonprofit paid interns
Speaker 1: to get measure P the parks tax passed, but which,
Speaker 1: of course she's you know, then tries to finagle you know,
Speaker 1: grants and stuff for herself. I am sure, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen all the receipts from it, but that seems to
Speaker 1: be their mo. If she didn't get any money from
Speaker 1: measure PE, then I'll shut up. But basically, Fresno Building
Speaker 1: Healthy Communities is a nonprofit that was started up in
Speaker 1: bootstrapped by ultra left wingers from the Los Angeles area
Speaker 1: who helped to get these things going. And you know,
Speaker 1: Worzowski goes through her sort of like resume here on
Speaker 1: this piece because he went to a fundraiser for her.
Speaker 1: He talks about how she's transforming Fresno with state funds. So,
Speaker 1: in short, like this is the worst kind of person
Speaker 1: to vault into the state legislature. This is someone who
Speaker 1: I don't think actually represents very well the communities she
Speaker 1: claims to represent. And this is one of the obnoxious
Speaker 1: things about these kinds of groups. Leadership Council for Justice
Speaker 1: and Accountability is another one of these groups that CELADON
Speaker 1: is very tight with, which this is the that's the
Speaker 1: group that basically sues everyone for allegedly for under sequa
Speaker 1: for allegedly not having enough of an environmental review. Celadon
Speaker 1: is sort of tight with those groups. All these different
Speaker 1: lefty nonprofit quote community groups, they're all funded with money
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles. First of all, these entities are not
Speaker 1: just springing out of the ground on the backs of
Speaker 1: ten dollars donations from Ubuela No.
Speaker 2: These are out of.
Speaker 1: Town Los Angeles or San Francisco based entities starting up
Speaker 1: nonprofits in Fresno to impact public policy in Fresno. That's
Speaker 1: what this is. Well moneyed entities. So it's not something organic,
Speaker 1: and they constantly have this attitude of acting as if
Speaker 1: they represent South Fresno more so than the actual elected
Speaker 1: representatives of South Fresno do. Like it seems as though
Speaker 1: Analisa Perea might be running for this Assembly seat also now,
Speaker 1: Analisa pre has been on the president of City Council
Speaker 1: for about two years. I'm not you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: like a great fan of Analisa Perea. Necessarily she's sort
Speaker 1: of part of the Henry Perea family business. But Analisa
Speaker 1: Perea I think has a much better claim to actually
Speaker 1: represent these people her viewpoints, which, by the way, she's
Speaker 1: a far more moderate Democrat than Sandra Seladon is, and
Speaker 1: I think that is actually representative of the people of
Speaker 1: South Fresno. I think people in South Presno are if
Speaker 1: they are Democrats, they're more moderate Democrats. This is not
Speaker 1: San Francisco Democrats. This is not you know, Beverly Hills democrats. Here,
Speaker 1: people in Fresno didn't ever want the police to be defunded.
Speaker 1: People in Fresno overwhelmingly voted for the former police chief
Speaker 1: to be the mayor twice. This is not a this
Speaker 1: is not a left wing city. And by the way
Speaker 1: Sandra Seladon is a candidate for twenty twenty, she's not
Speaker 1: a candidate for twenty twenty six. The country has moved
Speaker 1: on from a lot of these insane.
Speaker 3: That sounded like Trump for a second, a lot.
Speaker 2: Of these people.
Speaker 1: The country has moved on from a lot of these
Speaker 1: sort of pathologies that the left was just so captivated
Speaker 1: but with back in twenty twenty, she's the wrong person
Speaker 1: for this timeframe, seemingly, and especially in Fresno a county.
Speaker 1: You know, Presno County went you know, Fresno County went red.
Speaker 1: Now I'm sure that Assembly district didn't. It takes like
Speaker 1: the most liberal parts of Fresno and then probably I
Speaker 1: think some other parts of the South Valley into the
Speaker 1: South Valley. So I mean, it's still probably a pretty
Speaker 1: safely Democrat district. But I think go on, Lisa Perea
Speaker 1: probably fits that district a lot better than Sandra Slodon does.
Speaker 1: And yet that this is the difficulty. You have these
Speaker 1: nonprofit groups who act like, oh, I represent the interests
Speaker 1: of this community. We're just standing up for the people
Speaker 1: in this community, and it's very unclear that they are
Speaker 1: actually representative of their communities. They'll file lawsuits with you know,
Speaker 1: three members of that community who said, uh sure, I'll
Speaker 1: have my name be a plaintiff in the lawsuit. I
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything right, No, you don't do it, okay.
Speaker 1: So basically I just feel like, gosh, Sandra Slodon represents
Speaker 1: the absolute worst stuff, the most poisonous stuff within Fresno politics.
Speaker 1: Is this again, this flock of vultures from these different
Speaker 1: nonprofitentities who again they circle around City Hall.
Speaker 2: Just waiting to dip their beaks. That's all they want.
Speaker 1: And she's going to ride that gig all the way
Speaker 1: to the California State Assembly. Now, when we return, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about the BS lawsuit that Selodan filed
Speaker 1: against Community Hospital. That's next on the John Girardy Show.
Speaker 1: Sandra Seladon is running for the California State Assembly seat
Speaker 1: currently held by Joaquin Arambula, who is term limiting out,
Speaker 1: and the Fresno b is fainting all over itself. At
Speaker 1: the News, Marrik Worzowski wrote a gushing column about Sandra
Speaker 1: Celadon and how wonderful she is. Sandra Slodon on the
Speaker 1: head of Fresno building healthy communities. Sandra burn them all down.
Speaker 3: Seladan.
Speaker 1: Yes, this was the woman who tweeted out after the
Speaker 1: George Floyd riots when there were Minneapolis police precincts literally
Speaker 1: burning to the ground. She posted a video of one
Speaker 1: burning down with the caption burned them all Down. And
Speaker 1: her defense of that in Warzowski's column was so lame.
Speaker 1: She was saying, Oh, I just I tweeted it out
Speaker 1: in a moment of passion, and you noticed that I
Speaker 1: wasn't the one doing anything destructive.
Speaker 3: I just went back to work.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, So the bar that we're holding you,
Speaker 1: you know, the standard were holding you up against, is
Speaker 1: did you actively participate in a riot or did you
Speaker 1: just cheer one on from the sideline? Oh okay, we
Speaker 1: ignore that you were cheering on violent riots because you
Speaker 1: didn't actually do them. If anything, it just shows that
Speaker 1: she lacks conviction. I guess anyway, if she thinks, you know,
Speaker 1: burning down police, he thinks is such a wonderful idea.
Speaker 1: Now I say this for its own segment. Worzowski in
Speaker 1: his column. And by the way, you may have noticed,
Speaker 1: I haven't talked as much about the Fresno Bee lately.
Speaker 1: I think it's less and less relevant I don't know
Speaker 1: why I happened to open it up today to look
Speaker 1: at it, and it's sort of cemented in my mind
Speaker 1: that maybe I don't need to. The President Bee still
Speaker 1: has this bizarre worldview that of their acceptable range of opinions,
Speaker 1: their worldview seems to be so narrow that they sort
Speaker 1: of cannot comprehend analysis from someone on the right anyway,
Speaker 1: so such that they think that Celodan isn't a ridiculous
Speaker 1: kind of person anyway. One of the things Worzowski highlighted
Speaker 1: in his column was the wonderful stuff Clodon has done
Speaker 1: with suing different business as in government agencies, including one
Speaker 1: lawsuit currently pending in federal court that charges Community Health
Speaker 1: System of misusing medical funds for its Clovis hospital expansion.
Speaker 3: So the idea is.
Speaker 1: Community Hospital gets reimbursement from Medical for caring for patients
Speaker 1: who have medical They provide a service for a medical patient,
Speaker 1: they submit a bill to Medical, they get money from Medical.
Speaker 1: The argument is that Community has diverted too much money
Speaker 1: away from community downtown towards Community and Clovis, and the
Speaker 1: idea being that this is racist, that this has resulted
Speaker 1: in community downtown suffering and community and Clovist thriving. That
Speaker 1: community and Clovis is much bigger, nicer, and more spacious,
Speaker 1: better services.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Community downtown is crappy and run down, not as nice,
Speaker 1: and that community was illegally siphoning medical money from one
Speaker 1: place to another. So let me just talk about what
Speaker 1: an idiotic lawsuit this is just at the ten thousand
Speaker 1: foot level, all right, Is community diverting more money to
Speaker 1: Clovis than to downtown?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Is that illegal?
Speaker 3: I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: I know though, for a fact, that saying that their
Speaker 1: medical money is being misused to spruce up community in
Speaker 1: Clovis at the expensive community downtown is one of the
Speaker 1: stupider things I've ever heard. Let's explain how medical works, guys.
Speaker 1: Medical's broke. Medical is deeply fundamentally flawed. Why because reimbursements
Speaker 1: to doctors who take care of medical patients from so
Speaker 1: this is reimbursement from the state. Medical is health insurance
Speaker 1: paid for with joint federal and state dollars. It's health
Speaker 1: insurance that's available to everyone under a certain income threshold.
Speaker 1: The reimbursement that a doctor gets for performing a service
Speaker 1: on a medical patient is tiny, tiny relative to what
Speaker 1: the doctor could get for performing the same service on
Speaker 1: a patient who has private health insurance, and tiny also
Speaker 1: relative to the costs associated with providing that care. There
Speaker 1: are many disciplines where doctors just flat out lose money
Speaker 1: taking care of medical patients. Okay, obgyn care for example,
Speaker 1: without extra state subsidies, they lose money on ob care.
Speaker 2: Doctors do and they.
Speaker 1: Lose BI get totally sucked providing gynecology care. So the
Speaker 1: money that community hospital, let's say, is getting from medical
Speaker 1: this is not representing some grand windfall. This is not
Speaker 1: like a big grant or something that they get that
Speaker 1: helps them. No, medical funding that community hospital gets is
Speaker 1: barely covering the costs associated with providing a service to
Speaker 1: a patient, to providing services to their medical patients. So
Speaker 1: the idea to frame their lawsuit in terms of oh,
Speaker 1: here's community hospital making tons of money off of medical
Speaker 1: and they're just taking all that money they're getting from
Speaker 1: medical down a community and they're just shoveling at all
Speaker 1: to those fat cat white people in Clovis. It is
Speaker 1: not a realistic understanding of the world. Money that they
Speaker 1: get from medical represents, like, you know, reducing their loss
Speaker 1: from a total loss to just a partial loss. All right,
Speaker 1: it's not some windfall. It's not like Okay, if look
Speaker 1: if Community down. If Community Hospital had applied for a
Speaker 1: you know, forty million dollar grant from the state for
Speaker 1: caring for lowering compatients at Community Downtown, and had received
Speaker 1: a forty million dollar grant from the state, Hey use
Speaker 1: this for Community Downtown to care for lowering compatients. And
Speaker 1: then they took that forty million dollars and threw it
Speaker 1: into a you know, chandeliers and caviat at Clovis Community.
Speaker 2: Okay, that I could understand. That. That's a lawsuit. That
Speaker 2: I could understand.
Speaker 1: You got a forty million dollar, effectively a windfall a
Speaker 1: grant from the state, and you used all that money
Speaker 1: for Community Clovis.
Speaker 2: That I would understand. But that's not the lawsuit.
Speaker 1: It's saying, oh, you're you're a medical funding you've diverted
Speaker 1: to Clovis.
Speaker 2: It's idiotic.
Speaker 1: The medical funding that Community Hospital gets is again it's
Speaker 1: not even covering the costs of the services they get.
Speaker 1: Medical funding is given as a reimbursement for the cost
Speaker 1: of a service that Community Hospital or one of its
Speaker 1: docks whatever provided. So, but that's Sandra Seladon's nonprofit filing
Speaker 1: this fancy schmancy lawsuit. Oh she's bringing awareness. She's not
Speaker 1: bringing awareness to Jack. It's a PR stunt, is what
Speaker 1: it was. It's a way to get her nonprofit in
Speaker 1: the news with a silly lawsuit that I don't think
Speaker 1: is going to go anywhere. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense theoretically. Look, is there stuff
Speaker 1: to criticize the Community Hospital for.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not saying they're a sainted organization that that's
Speaker 1: perfect and doing everything perfectly.
Speaker 2: But that lawsuit doesn't even make any sense.
Speaker 1: So acting like Sandra selad On some grand community act
Speaker 1: advocate because she's suing Community Hospital.
Speaker 2: Is silly.
Speaker 1: Let me return a broader cultural question. Is Clovis really
Speaker 1: all that white?
Speaker 2: Next? On the John Girardi Show, all right, I want
Speaker 2: to talk about sort of.
Speaker 1: A this is an evergreen sort of topic, a broader
Speaker 1: cultural question, the demography of the San Joaquin Valley. So
Speaker 1: over the weekend I was in Washington, DC, and I
Speaker 1: get reminded of this pretty much every time I leave
Speaker 1: the San Joaquin Valley and I remember this the first
Speaker 1: time I visited Notre Dame and it's another area where
Speaker 1: by the way. So the whole first half of the show,
Speaker 1: I was riffing off of a column written by Merrick
Speaker 1: Wworzowski in The Fresno Bee. I want to pledge Agent Squires, always,
Speaker 1: our beloved producer here on the John Girardi Show, always
Speaker 1: takes me to task whenever I do a Fresno B story, Why.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about them? They're irrelevant there. Their readership
Speaker 2: is just down, down, down, down down.
Speaker 3: Why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: And based on the column I read today, which was
Speaker 1: just Mayrek Warzowski just losing his mind over how wonderful
Speaker 1: Sandra Seladon is, the CEO of Fresno Building Healthy Communities,
Speaker 1: is running for the State Assembly, I think I'm more
Speaker 1: convinced that Agent Squire's is right, and maybe I will
Speaker 1: slash my Fresno B consumption accordingly.
Speaker 3: I think Fresno B is a.
Speaker 1: Downward news source stock, if you will, and maybe other
Speaker 1: kinds of news outlets are upward trending stocks. So anyway,
Speaker 1: but one of the things that is very much kind
Speaker 1: of a fresnob.
Speaker 3: Sort of worldview.
Speaker 1: Building One of these sort of building blocks of the
Speaker 1: Presno be worldview is that Clovis is bad within local
Speaker 1: Fresno politics, Clovis is bad, Clovis is conservative, Clovis's.
Speaker 2: Right wing, and.
Speaker 3: Clovis is white.
Speaker 1: Clovis is just chuck full of white people, as is
Speaker 1: North Presno, but Clovis h Clovis just full of white people,
Speaker 1: nothing but whities everywhere you look, and those racial tensions,
Speaker 1: that racial animus distorts our local politics, and it made
Speaker 1: me think I was brought to think about this. One
Speaker 1: of the things Worzewski was saying and his gushing piece
Speaker 1: about zelod On, he was talking about this lawsuit that
Speaker 1: Selodon's nonprofit filed against Community Hospital, saying how terrible it
Speaker 1: is a community hospital was siphoning money from community downtown
Speaker 1: to help pay for community and Clovis and a lot
Speaker 1: of her I think a lot of this kind of
Speaker 1: racial animus against Clovis because it's so full of white people.
Speaker 1: It's sort of built into it that, oh, you're giving
Speaker 1: all the money to the rich white hospital Clovis community,
Speaker 1: and you don't care about you know, the downtown Fresno,
Speaker 1: you know, lower socioeconomic community predominantly Latino serving community downtown. Now,
Speaker 1: there's definitely demographics that are at play with Clovis community,
Speaker 1: and I would guess I would venture that Clovis community
Speaker 1: has a high err percentage of non medical patients, which
Speaker 1: I bet and I sort of read some stuff I
Speaker 1: think indicating this Clovis community having a higher percentage of
Speaker 1: private insurance paying patients helps subsidize and keep community downtown afloat.
Speaker 1: It's not the other way around. I mean, just the
Speaker 1: economics of healthcare would tell you that this is as
Speaker 1: much as obvious. Like that was one of the as
Speaker 1: I discussed in the last segment. That's one of the
Speaker 1: ridiculous things about Celadon's lawsuit was this argument that, oh,
Speaker 1: they're misusing their medical funding that goes to community downtown
Speaker 1: to have it pay for community in Clovis, which is like, No,
Speaker 1: that's not what medical funding is. Medical funding is not
Speaker 1: like some big grant that you get over and above.
Speaker 1: It's not a windfall. It's reimbursement for services you provide.
Speaker 1: And usually the medical reimbursement barely even covers your costs.
Speaker 1: Often you're losing money on medical patients. So no, the
Speaker 1: idea that oh close, Presno community is getting all this
Speaker 1: medical money, getting rich off medical money. And because the
Speaker 1: powers that be a community are racist and hate Latinos,
Speaker 1: they're taking all that money and giving it all the
Speaker 1: Clovis community to make it nice for all the white people.
Speaker 2: That's idiotic.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the money is flowing rather from Clovis community
Speaker 1: back to downtown. If there's any movement of money at all,
Speaker 1: that's obviously the direction it's going to go. Now, this
Speaker 1: is where I push back though, this notion of Clovis
Speaker 1: as a white town.
Speaker 2: The way that like Tower District.
Speaker 1: Delibs, Fresno b Ish lives, the way they downtowny lives,
Speaker 1: the way they talk about Clovis, you would think that
Speaker 1: Clovis is ninety percent white.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you this.
Speaker 1: I was just in Washington, DC, that is a far
Speaker 1: less diverse city. Or I was in Northern Virginia, Alexandria.
Speaker 1: I went to National Harbor, Maryland, so not in downtown DC.
Speaker 2: Downtown d C.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a ton of African Americans there, But
Speaker 1: these fancy schmancy enclaves in Northern Virginia where everybody is
Speaker 1: a Democrat and it's you know, Tesla Tesla BMW Volkswagen
Speaker 1: Tesla Tesla. These parts of northern Virginia, you know, fancy
Speaker 1: parts of Maryland, they're way more white than Clovis is.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? If you picked Clovis up, if
Speaker 1: you picked the city of Clovis up, and you dropped
Speaker 1: it in Indiana or most of the country, if you
Speaker 1: dropped it in many, many states in the northeast and
Speaker 1: in the Midwest, Clovis would be far and away the
Speaker 1: most diverse city in that state. First of all, Clovis
Speaker 1: is majority minorities. All right, White people constitute a plurality
Speaker 1: in Clovis, not a majority. So let's just get that
Speaker 1: out of the way. And as a result, like this,
Speaker 1: this notion that Clovis is just so lily white, it's
Speaker 1: just that that these sort of racial tensions just because
Speaker 1: it's relatively more white people, I guess than Fresno. But
Speaker 1: therefore it's it's just out of hatred for Latinos guys.
Speaker 1: Do you know probably how many Latinos Clothes Community Hospital
Speaker 1: serves an enormous number, you know, how many long you
Speaker 1: know recent how many Mong people they serve. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a ton of long communities near there. Although even
Speaker 1: like community is sort of silly, Like I've looked at
Speaker 1: the demographics of clothes. It's not like we have enclaves
Speaker 1: in Clovis where this is where all the Latinos live,
Speaker 1: this is where all the Mong people live. No, it's
Speaker 1: totally diverse and spread throughout the city, both for Mongs
Speaker 1: and for Latinos. Mongs tend to live a little bit
Speaker 1: more kind of Clovis East d but they're all over
Speaker 1: the city. We don't have like Mo this is the
Speaker 1: Mong neighborhood, this is the this is the barrio. Like, No,
Speaker 1: we don't have that in Clovis. Latinos and Mongs are
Speaker 1: spread all throughout the city pretty fairly evenly. We're just
Speaker 1: a conservative city, Okay, Our Latinos are probably more conservative
Speaker 1: than most Latinos everywhere else. And some of that anecdotal, sure,
Speaker 1: but it's also shown by the way we vote. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna switch to this district based city council arrangement.
Speaker 1: I highly doubt we're going to start getting like, oh no, now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Cloes has three Democrats on the
Speaker 1: Clovia City Council.
Speaker 2: Now, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Get real.
Speaker 1: Clovis is just a conservative city. That's all it is.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's dominated by the Ku Klux Klan
Speaker 1: or some nonsense like that is not the It just
Speaker 1: shows the very parochial, limited perspective of these dumb tower
Speaker 1: district deliberals who clearly have never been anywhere outside of
Speaker 1: like San Francisco, anywhere outside of LA and San Francisco
Speaker 1: ever in their lives. Clovis is actually an incredibly diverse
Speaker 1: city relative to ninety nine percent of America, and a
Speaker 1: city with I would say pretty excellent racial harmony as
Speaker 1: I've known it my whole life. So this I just
Speaker 1: want to push back on this. I realize this is
Speaker 1: not like a breaking news story, but it's an idea
Speaker 1: that has persisted in local politics, local culture. This notion
Speaker 1: of Clovis as like, oh, the lily white, rich fat
Speaker 1: cats in Clovis.
Speaker 2: Clovis is also, by the way.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Clovis is a bunch of rich people. Yes,
Speaker 1: there are rich people who live in Clovis. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of working class communities in Clovis. Like when my
Speaker 1: wife and I moved back, I mean I was not
Speaker 1: making a ton of money by any means, and I
Speaker 1: had to find a place where a middle class family
Speaker 1: could live. Clovis wound up being the answer, a pretty
Speaker 1: good answer. So I again, I push back on all
Speaker 1: this nonsense of.
Speaker 3: Oh, Clovis is lily white. It isn't.
Speaker 1: Trust me go to South Bend, Indiana, and then you
Speaker 1: tell me that Clovis is white, all right when we return,
Speaker 1: when we return. Stuff I noticed in my trip to Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Over the weekend that's next on the John's
Speaker 1: Already show. I was in Washington, d C. Over the
Speaker 1: weekend and went to a conference out there. Actually got
Speaker 1: to go to a National Review conference. Now that I've
Speaker 1: been writing all these pieces for them, I was able
Speaker 1: to get a ticket to this shindig and got to
Speaker 1: see Ron de Santis speak, and Brian Kemp, the Government
Speaker 1: of Georgia speak, and a bunch of brothers. But something
Speaker 1: I noticed about now specifically, I was staying in northern
Speaker 1: Virginia with my brother who's an attorney who works for
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. And it's an interesting thing about
Speaker 1: where sympathy should lie for you know, for example, the
Speaker 1: Elon Musk slashing of government workers and some of these
Speaker 1: narratives come out, Oh.
Speaker 2: These government workers are losing their jobs and that's terrible, and.
Speaker 1: I was sort of like, okay, well, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel bad for people who lose their job in any setting.
Speaker 3: It's a horrible feeling. It's not fun, a disruption.
Speaker 2: But you know, going to northern Virginia where I.
Speaker 1: Mean a huge percentage of everybody who's living in Northern
Speaker 1: Virginia is living there in some way based off of
Speaker 1: government funding, whether they are working directly for the federal
Speaker 1: government or government contractors or nonprofits or funded by the
Speaker 1: government whatever. And all these houses are worth seven hundred
Speaker 1: thousand bucks.
Speaker 3: And it's basically.
Speaker 1: BMWBMW Tesla, Tesla, Tesla, Tesla. By the way, it's so
Speaker 1: funny how these liberals are acting like Tesla's the most
Speaker 1: evil thing. You're never going to see more Teslas than
Speaker 1: in Northern Virginia. Tesla, Tesla, Tesla, BMW. You know, I
Speaker 1: gotta say, I mean again, I feel bad for anyone
Speaker 1: losing their job. They got a mortgage that they've based
Speaker 1: their mortgage off of what they make. You know, they
Speaker 1: made plans, et cetera. I just when I think that
Speaker 1: all of this wealth and all of these very comfortable
Speaker 1: people are making what they make off of my taxes. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: it makes it very hard to have much sympathy. And
Speaker 1: I think that this is going to ultimately be, you know,
Speaker 1: slashing of various kinds of government workers and government contracts
Speaker 1: and programs, things like that. That's why I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty much an eighty twenty issue for Trump
Speaker 1: because again, it's hard to have that much sympathy for
Speaker 1: very comfortable people who are very comfortable on the backs
Speaker 1: of taxpayers. So anyway, that was my my DC observation
Speaker 1: for all of you, your DC correspondent, John Girardy.
Speaker 3: That'll do it.
Speaker 1: John Girraardy shows see you next time on Power Talk