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<v Speaker 1>I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but

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<v Speaker 1>it appears that coming up in the twenty twenty six elections,

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno is going to have a new candidate for the

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<v Speaker 1>California State Assembly seat currently held by Joaquin Arambula, so

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<v Speaker 1>Jaquin Arambula has been a California State Assembly member for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. He is term limiting out. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>have term limits in the California legislature. Probably many of

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<v Speaker 1>you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Not know that.

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<v Speaker 1>The California State Legislature, by the way, is the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>counter example for every conservative who says, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>need solve the problem in Washington, we need term limits.

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<v Speaker 2>Term these people need to get out off.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have term limits in the California State Legislature.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a twelve year term limit. You can serve

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<v Speaker 1>no more than twelve years combined between the State Assembly

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<v Speaker 1>and the State Senate. So you could do like four

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<v Speaker 1>years in the State Senate in eight years in the

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<v Speaker 1>State Assembly, or or you know, twelve years in one

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<v Speaker 1>or twelve years in the other, and then you're done.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're term limited out.

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<v Speaker 1>And this legislature is terrible in California, just in different

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<v Speaker 1>ways than Washington. Is it has just created new and

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<v Speaker 1>different bad pathologies among members of the state legislature anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Joaquina Arambula is term limiting out and his district covers

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like South Fresno, and running to replace him.

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<v Speaker 1>Is maybe one of my least favorite people as far

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<v Speaker 1>as what she believes. I don't know anything about her personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I never met her personally. I'm not saying she's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad person. I guess I don't know. Just don't like

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<v Speaker 1>what she advocates and how she postures herself and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of what she represents within local politics. Sandra Celodon, Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>Selodon is running to replace Jauquina Rambula, and she got

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<v Speaker 1>a big glowing column in the Fresno b yesterday from

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<v Speaker 1>Merrik Worzowski, and it's really kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Indicative.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of the irrelevance to which the Fresno Bee

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<v Speaker 1>is sliding that they find literally the most left wing

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<v Speaker 1>person to have their columnists do this big, glowing, gushing

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<v Speaker 1>review over. So I want to go through this piece

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<v Speaker 1>by Worzowski and talk a little bit about Selodon and

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<v Speaker 1>what she represents. So the first thing to know is

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<v Speaker 1>that Sandra Seladon is the CEO of Fresno Building Healthy Communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno Building Healthy Communities is one of these nonprofits that

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<v Speaker 1>circles around the basically any government entity that has money

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<v Speaker 1>there in a city council, the president, county, board of supervisors, president,

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<v Speaker 1>unified school districts, board of trustees, et cetera. They circle

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<v Speaker 1>around like vultures circling a carcass. And they have all

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<v Speaker 1>of these altruistic sounding liberal ideas, proposing certain kinds of taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>doing certain kinds of things, whatever, certain kinds of government programs.

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<v Speaker 1>All sounds like these altruistic liberal ideas, but the point

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<v Speaker 1>is to do them with a government contract going to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to provide all these services with your taxpayer

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<v Speaker 1>dollar flowing to them, so that it sounds like they're just, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just altruistically advocating for you know, some you know, bleeding.

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<v Speaker 2>Heart liberal cause.

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<v Speaker 1>But really what they want is your money in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of a government contract. So Fresno Building Healthy Communities

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<v Speaker 1>does that, Barriosunidos does that. All these different Fresno eoc

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<v Speaker 1>very often does that. All these different local nonprofits do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And Celadon and her Fresno building healthy communities has been

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<v Speaker 1>at the forefront of it. So she was this big

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<v Speaker 1>pusher of measure p the parks measure, which she and

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<v Speaker 1>her organization was a big pusher of measure p She

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<v Speaker 1>is also like super environmental, like wanting to stop any

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<v Speaker 1>kind you know, one of the big local entities, pushing

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of the negative adverse environmental actions, lawsuits, et

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<v Speaker 1>cetera that help stop development and hurt business in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Fresno. She also, notoriously this was the one

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<v Speaker 1>notorious thing about her that Warzowski buries at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the article and just sort of glosses past. This

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<v Speaker 1>was the sequence of events we had. The riots were

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<v Speaker 1>happening in Minnesota after George Floyd was killed. Seladan tweets

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<v Speaker 1>out a video of a police precinct burning to the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and she writes in the caption burn them all down.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone understandably says, what the hell. She deletes her whole

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter account, and yet somehow still manages to finagle her

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<v Speaker 1>way onto the Fresno Police Reform Commission, the commission that

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<v Speaker 1>was set up under Mayor brand and Mayor elect Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Dyer to examine the police how should we reform policing

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<v Speaker 1>in Fresno because we're all feeling bad after George Floyd,

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow the police are racist in Fresno, so we

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<v Speaker 1>need to set up a commission. And they set up

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<v Speaker 1>poor Oliver Baines as the figurehead chair of the Police

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<v Speaker 1>Reform Commission, and Sandra Celadon, of all people, this person

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<v Speaker 1>who expressed the most obviously out of bounds idea for

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<v Speaker 1>fresnens presidents who have never gone in at any level

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<v Speaker 1>the citizenry, the city council, Nobody at any point had

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<v Speaker 1>ever gone in for defund the police stuff other than Selodon,

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<v Speaker 1>who's clearly a huge enthusiast for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Celodan gets picked.

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<v Speaker 1>To be the vice chair of this Police Reform Commission

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<v Speaker 1>and produces this report full of recommendations that she clearly wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Oliver Bain's I mean, Oliver bains

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly was completely steamrolled on this whole thing or sell

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<v Speaker 1>it On writes this report, which which apparently nobody but

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<v Speaker 1>me bothered to actually read at the time, which basically

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<v Speaker 1>said policing in America is inherently racist. Policing in America

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<v Speaker 1>is rooted in gangs of Southern yahoos who would go around,

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<v Speaker 1>get deputized, and go around with rifles to round up

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<v Speaker 1>escape slaves. That was the whole point of policing in America,

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<v Speaker 1>and that racist legacy lives on today and how it

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<v Speaker 1>adversely impacts communities of color, and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Every just chapter in verse, every.

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<v Speaker 1>Line of modern day American left wing police discourse, all

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<v Speaker 1>of which is bunk, all of which is historically bunk. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>the roots of modern day American policing lie in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby's London's Police Force that was developed in nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>where the idea came about for a professionalized swarm set

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<v Speaker 1>of swarm officers taking on almost a sort of quasi

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<v Speaker 1>military style of behavior, with uniforms, with ranks, with discipline,

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<v Speaker 1>with training, who would enforce the law. That model was

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<v Speaker 1>exported from the United Kingdom to the United States of

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<v Speaker 1>America and started on the East Coast and spread throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the country. That's the model for modern day American policing.

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<v Speaker 1>It owes far more to that than it does to

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<v Speaker 1>anything having to do with rounding up slaves in the

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<v Speaker 1>American South prior to the Civil War. It's a different tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>It has nothing to do with it. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a completely left wing nutjob, race obsessed loan, then of

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<v Speaker 1>course that's the lens through which you view the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>So I find Seladon.

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<v Speaker 3>To be.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of the worst example.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this, and I think an out of touch example

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<v Speaker 1>with where Fresno is and has been. Fresno never bought

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<v Speaker 1>in to the defund.

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<v Speaker 3>The police nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>Never. I don't care if you're South President, North President whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Fresno never bought into the defund the police nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>She was able using her army of nonprofit paid interns

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<v Speaker 1>to get measure P the parks tax passed, but which,

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<v Speaker 1>of course she's you know, then tries to finagle you know,

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<v Speaker 1>grants and stuff for herself. I am sure, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen all the receipts from it, but that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be their mo. If she didn't get any money from

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<v Speaker 1>measure PE, then I'll shut up. But basically, Fresno Building

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<v Speaker 1>Healthy Communities is a nonprofit that was started up in

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<v Speaker 1>bootstrapped by ultra left wingers from the Los Angeles area

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<v Speaker 1>who helped to get these things going. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Worzowski goes through her sort of like resume here on

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<v Speaker 1>this piece because he went to a fundraiser for her.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks about how she's transforming Fresno with state funds. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in short, like this is the worst kind of person

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<v Speaker 1>to vault into the state legislature. This is someone who

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think actually represents very well the communities she

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<v Speaker 1>claims to represent. And this is one of the obnoxious

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<v Speaker 1>things about these kinds of groups. Leadership Council for Justice

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<v Speaker 1>and Accountability is another one of these groups that CELADON

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<v Speaker 1>is very tight with, which this is the that's the

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<v Speaker 1>group that basically sues everyone for allegedly for under sequa

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<v Speaker 1>for allegedly not having enough of an environmental review. Celadon

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of tight with those groups. All these different

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<v Speaker 1>lefty nonprofit quote community groups, they're all funded with money

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<v Speaker 1>from Los Angeles. First of all, these entities are not

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<v Speaker 1>just springing out of the ground on the backs of

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<v Speaker 1>ten dollars donations from Ubuela No.

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<v Speaker 2>These are out of.

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<v Speaker 1>Town Los Angeles or San Francisco based entities starting up

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofits in Fresno to impact public policy in Fresno. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what this is. Well moneyed entities. So it's not something organic,

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<v Speaker 1>and they constantly have this attitude of acting as if

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<v Speaker 1>they represent South Fresno more so than the actual elected

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<v Speaker 1>representatives of South Fresno do. Like it seems as though

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<v Speaker 1>Analisa Perea might be running for this Assembly seat also now,

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<v Speaker 1>Analisa pre has been on the president of City Council

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<v Speaker 1>for about two years. I'm not you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like a great fan of Analisa Perea. Necessarily she's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of part of the Henry Perea family business. But Analisa

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<v Speaker 1>Perea I think has a much better claim to actually

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<v Speaker 1>represent these people her viewpoints, which, by the way, she's

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<v Speaker 1>a far more moderate Democrat than Sandra Seladon is, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is actually representative of the people of

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<v Speaker 1>South Fresno. I think people in South Presno are if

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<v Speaker 1>they are Democrats, they're more moderate Democrats. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco Democrats. This is not you know, Beverly Hills democrats. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>people in Fresno didn't ever want the police to be defunded.

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<v Speaker 1>People in Fresno overwhelmingly voted for the former police chief

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<v Speaker 1>to be the mayor twice. This is not a this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a left wing city. And by the way

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra Seladon is a candidate for twenty twenty, she's not

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<v Speaker 1>a candidate for twenty twenty six. The country has moved

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<v Speaker 1>on from a lot of these insane.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounded like Trump for a second, a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of these people.

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<v Speaker 1>The country has moved on from a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>sort of pathologies that the left was just so captivated

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<v Speaker 1>but with back in twenty twenty, she's the wrong person

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<v Speaker 1>for this timeframe, seemingly, and especially in Fresno a county.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Presno County went you know, Fresno County went red.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm sure that Assembly district didn't. It takes like

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<v Speaker 1>the most liberal parts of Fresno and then probably I

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<v Speaker 1>think some other parts of the South Valley into the

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<v Speaker 1>South Valley. So I mean, it's still probably a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>safely Democrat district. But I think go on, Lisa Perea

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<v Speaker 1>probably fits that district a lot better than Sandra Slodon does.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet that this is the difficulty. You have these

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit groups who act like, oh, I represent the interests

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<v Speaker 1>of this community. We're just standing up for the people

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<v Speaker 1>in this community, and it's very unclear that they are

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<v Speaker 1>actually representative of their communities. They'll file lawsuits with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three members of that community who said, uh sure, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have my name be a plaintiff in the lawsuit. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to do anything right, No, you don't do it, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically I just feel like, gosh, Sandra Slodon represents

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute worst stuff, the most poisonous stuff within Fresno politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this again, this flock of vultures from these different

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofitentities who again they circle around City Hall.

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<v Speaker 2>Just waiting to dip their beaks. That's all they want.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's going to ride that gig all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the California State Assembly. Now, when we return, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the BS lawsuit that Selodan filed

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<v Speaker 1>against Community Hospital. That's next on the John Girardy Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra Seladon is running for the California State Assembly seat

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<v Speaker 1>currently held by Joaquin Arambula, who is term limiting out,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Fresno b is fainting all over itself. At

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<v Speaker 1>the News, Marrik Worzowski wrote a gushing column about Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>Celadon and how wonderful she is. Sandra Slodon on the

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<v Speaker 1>head of Fresno building healthy communities. Sandra burn them all down.

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<v Speaker 3>Seladan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this was the woman who tweeted out after the

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd riots when there were Minneapolis police precincts literally

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<v Speaker 1>burning to the ground. She posted a video of one

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<v Speaker 1>burning down with the caption burned them all Down. And

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<v Speaker 1>her defense of that in Warzowski's column was so lame.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, So the bar that we're holding you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the standard were holding you up against, is

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<v Speaker 1>ignore that you were cheering on violent riots because you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't actually do them. If anything, it just shows that

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<v Speaker 1>she lacks conviction. I guess anyway, if she thinks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>burning down police, he thinks is such a wonderful idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I say this for its own segment. Worzowski in

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<v Speaker 1>his column. And by the way, you may have noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's less and less relevant I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe I don't need to. The President Bee still

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<v Speaker 1>has this bizarre worldview that of their acceptable range of opinions,

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<v Speaker 1>their worldview seems to be so narrow that they sort

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<v Speaker 1>of cannot comprehend analysis from someone on the right anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so such that they think that Celodan isn't a ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person anyway. One of the things Worzowski highlighted

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<v Speaker 1>in his column was the wonderful stuff Clodon has done

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<v Speaker 1>with suing different business as in government agencies, including one

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit currently pending in federal court that charges Community Health

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<v Speaker 1>System of misusing medical funds for its Clovis hospital expansion.

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<v Speaker 3>So the idea is.

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<v Speaker 1>Community Hospital gets reimbursement from Medical for caring for patients

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<v Speaker 1>who have medical They provide a service for a medical patient,

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<v Speaker 1>they submit a bill to Medical, they get money from Medical.

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<v Speaker 1>The argument is that Community has diverted too much money

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<v Speaker 1>away from community downtown towards Community and Clovis, and the

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<v Speaker 1>idea being that this is racist, that this has resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in community downtown suffering and community and Clovist thriving. That

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<v Speaker 1>community and Clovis is much bigger, nicer, and more spacious,

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<v Speaker 1>better services.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Community downtown is crappy and run down, not as nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and that community was illegally siphoning medical money from one

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<v Speaker 1>place to another. So let me just talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>an idiotic lawsuit this is just at the ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>foot level, all right, Is community diverting more money to

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<v Speaker 1>Clovis than to downtown?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Is that illegal?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know though, for a fact, that saying that their

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<v Speaker 1>medical money is being misused to spruce up community in

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<v Speaker 1>Clovis at the expensive community downtown is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>stupider things I've ever heard. Let's explain how medical works, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Medical's broke. Medical is deeply fundamentally flawed. Why because reimbursements

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<v Speaker 1>to doctors who take care of medical patients from so

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<v Speaker 1>this is reimbursement from the state. Medical is health insurance

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<v Speaker 1>paid for with joint federal and state dollars. It's health

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<v Speaker 1>insurance that's available to everyone under a certain income threshold.

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<v Speaker 1>The reimbursement that a doctor gets for performing a service

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<v Speaker 1>on a medical patient is tiny, tiny relative to what

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor could get for performing the same service on

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<v Speaker 1>a patient who has private health insurance, and tiny also

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<v Speaker 1>relative to the costs associated with providing that care. There

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<v Speaker 1>are many disciplines where doctors just flat out lose money

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of medical patients. Okay, obgyn care for example,

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<v Speaker 1>without extra state subsidies, they lose money on ob care.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctors do and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Lose BI get totally sucked providing gynecology care. So the

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<v Speaker 1>money that community hospital, let's say, is getting from medical

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<v Speaker 1>this is not representing some grand windfall. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>like a big grant or something that they get that

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<v Speaker 1>helps them. No, medical funding that community hospital gets is

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<v Speaker 1>barely covering the costs associated with providing a service to

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<v Speaker 1>a patient, to providing services to their medical patients. So

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<v Speaker 1>the idea to frame their lawsuit in terms of oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's community hospital making tons of money off of medical

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<v Speaker 1>and they're just taking all that money they're getting from

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<v Speaker 1>medical down a community and they're just shoveling at all

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<v Speaker 1>to those fat cat white people in Clovis. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not a realistic understanding of the world. Money that they

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<v Speaker 1>get from medical represents, like, you know, reducing their loss

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<v Speaker 1>from a total loss to just a partial loss. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not some windfall. It's not like Okay, if look

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<v Speaker 1>if Community down. If Community Hospital had applied for a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forty million dollar grant from the state for

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<v Speaker 1>caring for lowering compatients at Community Downtown, and had received

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<v Speaker 1>a forty million dollar grant from the state, Hey use

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<v Speaker 1>this for Community Downtown to care for lowering compatients. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they took that forty million dollars and threw it

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<v Speaker 1>into a you know, chandeliers and caviat at Clovis Community.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that I could understand. That. That's a lawsuit. That

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<v Speaker 2>I could understand.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a forty million dollar, effectively a windfall a

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<v Speaker 1>for Community Clovis.

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<v Speaker 2>That I would understand. But that's not the lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's saying, oh, you're you're a medical funding you've diverted

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<v Speaker 1>to Clovis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's idiotic.

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<v Speaker 1>The medical funding that Community Hospital gets is again it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even covering the costs of the services they get.

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<v Speaker 1>Medical funding is given as a reimbursement for the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of a service that Community Hospital or one of its

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<v Speaker 1>docks whatever provided. So, but that's Sandra Seladon's nonprofit filing

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<v Speaker 1>this fancy schmancy lawsuit. Oh she's bringing awareness. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>bringing awareness to Jack. It's a PR stunt, is what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It's a way to get her nonprofit in

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<v Speaker 1>the news with a silly lawsuit that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to go anywhere. It doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make any sense theoretically. Look, is there stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to criticize the Community Hospital for.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm not saying they're a sainted organization that that's

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<v Speaker 1>perfect and doing everything perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>But that lawsuit doesn't even make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So acting like Sandra selad On some grand community act

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<v Speaker 2>Is silly.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me return a broader cultural question. Is Clovis really

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<v Speaker 2>Next? On the John Girardi Show, all right, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>A this is an evergreen sort of topic, a broader

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<v Speaker 1>cultural question, the demography of the San Joaquin Valley. So

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend I was in Washington, DC, and I

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<v Speaker 1>get reminded of this pretty much every time I leave

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<v Speaker 1>time I visited Notre Dame and it's another area where

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. So the whole first half of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>I was riffing off of a column written by Merrick

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<v Speaker 1>Wworzowski in The Fresno Bee. I want to pledge Agent Squires, always,

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<v Speaker 1>our beloved producer here on the John Girardi Show, always

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<v Speaker 1>takes me to task whenever I do a Fresno B story, Why.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you talking about them? They're irrelevant there. Their readership

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<v Speaker 2>is just down, down, down, down down.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>And based on the column I read today, which was

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<v Speaker 1>just Mayrek Warzowski just losing his mind over how wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra Seladon is, the CEO of Fresno Building Healthy Communities,

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<v Speaker 1>is running for the State Assembly, I think I'm more

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that Agent Squire's is right, and maybe I will

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<v Speaker 3>I think Fresno B is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Downward news source stock, if you will, and maybe other

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of news outlets are upward trending stocks. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the things that is very much kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a fresnob.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of worldview.

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<v Speaker 1>Building One of these sort of building blocks of the

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<v Speaker 1>Presno be worldview is that Clovis is bad within local

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno politics, Clovis is bad, Clovis is conservative, Clovis's.

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<v Speaker 2>Right wing, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Clovis is white.

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<v Speaker 1>Clovis is just chuck full of white people, as is

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<v Speaker 1>North Presno, but Clovis h Clovis just full of white people,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but whities everywhere you look, and those racial tensions,

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<v Speaker 1>that racial animus distorts our local politics, and it made

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<v Speaker 1>me think I was brought to think about this. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things Worzewski was saying and his gushing piece

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<v Speaker 1>about zelod On, he was talking about this lawsuit that

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<v Speaker 1>Selodon's nonprofit filed against Community Hospital, saying how terrible it

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<v Speaker 1>is a community hospital was siphoning money from community downtown

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<v Speaker 1>to help pay for community and Clovis and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of her I think a lot of this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>racial animus against Clovis because it's so full of white people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of built into it that, oh, you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>all the money to the rich white hospital Clovis community,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't care about you know, the downtown Fresno,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, lower socioeconomic community predominantly Latino serving community downtown. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's definitely demographics that are at play with Clovis community,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would guess I would venture that Clovis community

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<v Speaker 1>has a high err percentage of non medical patients, which

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<v Speaker 1>I bet and I sort of read some stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>think indicating this Clovis community having a higher percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>private insurance paying patients helps subsidize and keep community downtown afloat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the other way around. I mean, just the

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<v Speaker 1>economics of healthcare would tell you that this is as

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<v Speaker 1>much as obvious. Like that was one of the as

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous things about Celadon's lawsuit was this argument that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're misusing their medical funding that goes to community downtown

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<v Speaker 1>to have it pay for community in Clovis, which is like, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what medical funding is. Medical funding is not

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<v Speaker 1>like some big grant that you get over and above.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a windfall. It's reimbursement for services you provide.

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<v Speaker 1>And usually the medical reimbursement barely even covers your costs.

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<v Speaker 1>Often you're losing money on medical patients. So no, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that oh close, Presno community is getting all this

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<v Speaker 1>medical money, getting rich off medical money. And because the

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<v Speaker 1>powers that be a community are racist and hate Latinos,

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking all that money and giving it all the

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<v Speaker 1>Clovis community to make it nice for all the white people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's idiotic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the money is flowing rather from Clovis community

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<v Speaker 1>back to downtown. If there's any movement of money at all,

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<v Speaker 1>that's obviously the direction it's going to go. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where I push back though, this notion of Clovis

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<v Speaker 1>as a white town.

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<v Speaker 2>The way that like Tower District.

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<v Speaker 1>Delibs, Fresno b Ish lives, the way they downtowny lives,

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<v Speaker 1>the way they talk about Clovis, you would think that

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<v Speaker 1>Clovis is ninety percent white.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just in Washington, DC, that is a far

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<v Speaker 1>less diverse city. Or I was in Northern Virginia, Alexandria.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to National Harbor, Maryland, so not in downtown DC.

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<v Speaker 2>Downtown d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have a ton of African Americans there, But

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<v Speaker 1>these fancy schmancy enclaves in Northern Virginia where everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat and it's you know, Tesla Tesla BMW Volkswagen

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla Tesla. These parts of northern Virginia, you know, fancy

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<v Speaker 1>parts of Maryland, they're way more white than Clovis is.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? If you picked Clovis up, if

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<v Speaker 1>you picked the city of Clovis up, and you dropped

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<v Speaker 1>it in Indiana or most of the country, if you

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<v Speaker 1>dropped it in many, many states in the northeast and

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<v Speaker 1>in the Midwest, Clovis would be far and away the

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<v Speaker 1>most diverse city in that state. First of all, Clovis

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<v Speaker 1>is majority minorities. All right, White people constitute a plurality

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<v Speaker 1>in Clovis, not a majority. So let's just get that

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way. And as a result, like this,

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<v Speaker 1>this notion that Clovis is just so lily white, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just that that these sort of racial tensions just because

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<v Speaker 1>it's relatively more white people, I guess than Fresno. But

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<v Speaker 1>therefore it's it's just out of hatred for Latinos guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know probably how many Latinos Clothes Community Hospital

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<v Speaker 1>serves an enormous number, you know, how many long you

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<v Speaker 1>know recent how many Mong people they serve. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a ton of long communities near there. Although even

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<v Speaker 1>like community is sort of silly, Like I've looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the demographics of clothes. It's not like we have enclaves

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<v Speaker 1>in Clovis where this is where all the Latinos live,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where all the Mong people live. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>totally diverse and spread throughout the city, both for Mongs

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<v Speaker 1>and for Latinos. Mongs tend to live a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more kind of Clovis East d but they're all over

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<v Speaker 1>the city. We don't have like Mo this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Mong neighborhood, this is the this is the barrio. Like, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have that in Clovis. Latinos and Mongs are

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<v Speaker 1>spread all throughout the city pretty fairly evenly. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative city, Okay, Our Latinos are probably more conservative

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<v Speaker 1>than most Latinos everywhere else. And some of that anecdotal, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also shown by the way we vote. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna switch to this district based city council arrangement.

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<v Speaker 1>I highly doubt we're going to start getting like, oh no, now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, Cloes has three Democrats on the

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<v Speaker 1>Clovia City Council.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Get real.

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<v Speaker 1>Clovis is just a conservative city. That's all it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like it's dominated by the Ku Klux Klan

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<v Speaker 1>or some nonsense like that is not the It just

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<v Speaker 1>shows the very parochial, limited perspective of these dumb tower

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<v Speaker 1>district deliberals who clearly have never been anywhere outside of

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<v Speaker 1>like San Francisco, anywhere outside of LA and San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>ever in their lives. Clovis is actually an incredibly diverse

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<v Speaker 1>city relative to ninety nine percent of America, and a

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<v Speaker 1>city with I would say pretty excellent racial harmony as

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<v Speaker 1>I've known it my whole life. So this I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to push back on this. I realize this is

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<v Speaker 1>not like a breaking news story, but it's an idea

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<v Speaker 1>that has persisted in local politics, local culture. This notion

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<v Speaker 1>of Clovis as like, oh, the lily white, rich fat

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<v Speaker 1>cats in Clovis.

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<v Speaker 2>Clovis is also, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing. Clovis is a bunch of rich people. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are rich people who live in Clovis. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of working class communities in Clovis. Like when my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and I moved back, I mean I was not

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<v Speaker 1>making a ton of money by any means, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to find a place where a middle class family

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<v Speaker 1>could live. Clovis wound up being the answer, a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good answer. So I again, I push back on all

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<v Speaker 1>this nonsense of.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Clovis is lily white. It isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me go to South Bend, Indiana, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that Clovis is white, all right when we return,

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<v Speaker 1>when we return. Stuff I noticed in my trip to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. Over the weekend that's next on the John's

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<v Speaker 1>Already show. I was in Washington, d C. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend and went to a conference out there. Actually got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a National Review conference. Now that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been writing all these pieces for them, I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to get a ticket to this shindig and got to

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<v Speaker 1>see Ron de Santis speak, and Brian Kemp, the Government

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<v Speaker 1>of Georgia speak, and a bunch of brothers. But something

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed about now specifically, I was staying in northern

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia with my brother who's an attorney who works for

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice. And it's an interesting thing about

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<v Speaker 1>where sympathy should lie for you know, for example, the

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk slashing of government workers and some of these

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<v Speaker 1>narratives come out, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>These government workers are losing their jobs and that's terrible, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sort of like, okay, well, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad for people who lose their job in any setting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a horrible feeling. It's not fun, a disruption.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, going to northern Virginia where I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean a huge percentage of everybody who's living in Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia is living there in some way based off of

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<v Speaker 1>government funding, whether they are working directly for the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government or government contractors or nonprofits or funded by the

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<v Speaker 1>government whatever. And all these houses are worth seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's basically.

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<v Speaker 1>BMWBMW Tesla, Tesla, Tesla, Tesla. By the way, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>funny how these liberals are acting like Tesla's the most

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<v Speaker 1>evil thing. You're never going to see more Teslas than

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<v Speaker 1>in Northern Virginia. Tesla, Tesla, Tesla, BMW. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, I mean again, I feel bad for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>losing their job. They got a mortgage that they've based

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<v Speaker 1>their mortgage off of what they make. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>made plans, et cetera. I just when I think that

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<v Speaker 1>all of this wealth and all of these very comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>people are making what they make off of my taxes. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it very hard to have much sympathy. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is going to ultimately be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>slashing of various kinds of government workers and government contracts

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<v Speaker 1>and programs, things like that. That's why I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be pretty much an eighty twenty issue for Trump

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<v Speaker 1>because again, it's hard to have that much sympathy for

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<v Speaker 1>very comfortable people who are very comfortable on the backs

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<v Speaker 1>of taxpayers. So anyway, that was my my DC observation

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<v Speaker 1>for all of you, your DC correspondent, John Girardy.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>John Girraardy shows see you next time on Power Talk
