Speaker 1: My God, Ross Caldhart, journalist, award-winning broadcaster, expert on UFOs,
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, and our government's failure to inform us. He's
Speaker 1: live in Sydney, Australia. He works with News Nation. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show, Ross.
Speaker 2: G'day, Walter, and g'day, Midnight Misfits. I'm talking about a
Speaker 2: place called Susquehanna, which is a power station, which is
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, the Susquehanna Steam Electric Station in Pennsylvania. And
Speaker 2: you and I, Walter, have been very prominent, I think,
Speaker 2: in taking a very sceptical view over the last few
Speaker 2: years about the official explanation for the unexplained objects that
Speaker 2: have been breaching airspace over often very sensitive government military facilities,
Speaker 2: but especially just over suburban New Jersey for many, many months.
Speaker 2: And you and I were both talking many times on
Speaker 2: this show about the fact that time and time again,
Speaker 2: we are told by the authorities that these are just drones.
Speaker 2: And the most banal explanation being offered by those in
Speaker 2: charge is that clearly some naughty person is just putting
Speaker 2: up a commercial or maybe even a military-sized drone and
Speaker 2: breaching the airspace over sensitive civil aviation facilities. And don't
Speaker 2: you worry your tiny little heads about this. There's really
Speaker 2: nothing to worry about. It's nothing anomalous. Well, my friend,
Speaker 2: I have just put to air an interview with a
Speaker 2: guy who I think puts this to rest once and
Speaker 2: for all, and he is very strongly of the view
Speaker 2: that we need to take anomalous phenomena over sensitive military
Speaker 2: and civilian facilities extremely seriously indeed. The guy's name is
Speaker 2: Daryl Johnson, and he's a very... Big banana. He's formerly
Speaker 2: one of the top experts on domestic terrorism in the
Speaker 2: United States. He worked in a counterterrorism role in the U.S. Army,
Speaker 2: and he ended up working inside the office of. the
Speaker 2: Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Office of Nuclear Security and Incident Response,
Speaker 2: doing all of the security for the body that controls
Speaker 2: the security over some of our most sensitive nuclear plants.
Speaker 2: And what he's discovered is truly shocking. Forgive me, I'm
Speaker 2: getting somebody... Believe me, I understand.
Speaker 1: It's all right. Pause if you need to, because I
Speaker 1: want to hear this Story. This is clearly a big story, sir.
Speaker 2: So he was responsible for monitoring, assessing, and trending all
Speaker 2: drone and UAP flyovers at every single commercial nuclear power
Speaker 2: reactor and fuel cycle facility across the United States. It
Speaker 2: was Darrell who wrote the annual report to Congress for
Speaker 2: the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's security inspection programs. He was responsible
Speaker 2: for all of the security advisories sent to all the licensees,
Speaker 2: and he reviewed all of the suspicious activity reports from
Speaker 2: all licensees. And essentially, he was the guy who did
Speaker 2: the trend analysis on what is actually being seen over
Speaker 2: these nuclear power plants. And his job was to coordinate
Speaker 2: with the Department of Defense's UFO Investigation Office, the All
Speaker 2: Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, on UAPs. And what he revealed
Speaker 2: to me in this interview is quite shocking because he's
Speaker 2: discovered that, for example, at Susquehanna, 22nd of October 2022,
Speaker 2: what was officially described as a drone was a gigantic
Speaker 2: black triangular object with a large spotlight that hovered over
Speaker 2: the nuclear power plant for two hours.
Speaker 1: Two hours?
Speaker 2: And it did this with total impunity, shining down a
Speaker 2: huge spotlight over one of the most sensitive facilities that
Speaker 2: has nuclear power in the United States. And what's interesting
Speaker 2: is the official explanation is that these were just one
Speaker 2: of several drones that breached the airspace. That's what the
Speaker 2: public have been told by the NRC. But the reality
Speaker 2: is from the guy who was in charge of security,
Speaker 2: he thinks these are anomalous. He says the lights were very,
Speaker 2: very prominent. If somebody was trying to hide this object,
Speaker 2: it was a very, very clearly, obviously well-lit craft that
Speaker 2: was clearly some kind of structured craft. It was a
Speaker 2: black triangle. No noise was heard. Absolutely no sign of
Speaker 2: any propellers or no jet engines, no turbines, a completely
Speaker 2: silent object hovering only very, very low over the head
Speaker 2: of security guards. And they were completely hopeless in their
Speaker 2: inability to be able to do anything about it. And
Speaker 2: what's interesting, Walter, and you and I have spoken about
Speaker 2: this before, that all too often what I suspect is
Speaker 2: described as a drone is is purely and simply an
Speaker 2: unexplained object and that the official default position now has
Speaker 2: come to be that UAPs, unidentified anomalous phenomena, objects like
Speaker 2: this black triangle, are reported either as drones or not
Speaker 2: at all. And that's exactly what Daryl Johnson tells me
Speaker 2: in the interview that we've just put to air. He
Speaker 2: says that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission He says it's incredibly serious.
Speaker 2: He says they're getting incomplete data because there's no guidance
Speaker 2: that distinguishes UAPs, that is potentially anomalous objects, from unmanned
Speaker 2: aerial systems, drones. Nobody knows how to tell the difference.
Speaker 2: And he said that inside the NRC, when he tried
Speaker 2: to raise this as a concern, nobody cared. They actually
Speaker 2: tried to discourage him from reporting it to the Pentagon's
Speaker 2: UAP office. And he was saying, he doesn't say that
Speaker 2: they are extraterrestrial, but he did tell me, quote, something
Speaker 2: is observing us. We don't know what it is or
Speaker 2: who controls it. But he said that in his time
Speaker 2: at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, he, Daryl Johnson, the guy
Speaker 2: in charge of security, saw time and time again objects
Speaker 2: being explained away as drones when he could not plausibly
Speaker 2: explain what they were. And he said he didn't think
Speaker 2: there was any willingness inside the NRC, which of course
Speaker 2: is the body that is meant to be protecting us all,
Speaker 2: from the possibility of the nuclear materials inside these plants
Speaker 2: being swept away by some dastardly terrorist. Basically, his division
Speaker 2: director laughed at the idea of aliens or UAPs and joked.
Speaker 2: And he basically discouraged him from making a report to
Speaker 2: the Pentagon, as he was required to do by law.
Speaker 2: And so he's gone public with me and it's quite
Speaker 2: a major story. I'm genuinely concerned by what he reveals
Speaker 2: because what he's saying is that even if you wanted
Speaker 2: to bring down these objects, I said to him, why
Speaker 2: didn't somebody just shoot down these craft over these areas?
Speaker 2: And he laughed and he said, you wouldn't believe this.
Speaker 2: A drone is defined as an aircraft under FAA laws.
Speaker 2: And so it's a breach of the Aircraft Sabotage Act
Speaker 2: to shoot down a drone, even if it's hovering over
Speaker 2: one of the most sensitive nuclear facilities in Pennsylvania. And
Speaker 2: he said it's a potential felony liability for the security
Speaker 2: staff at a nuclear power plant to either jam, damage, destroy,
Speaker 2: hack or seize any kind of aircraft, even if it's
Speaker 2: a remotely controlled drone. All they can do is watch
Speaker 2: the object and watch it leave. So really, there's no
Speaker 2: power to do anything. So whether this is Chinese, little
Speaker 2: green men from Zeta Reticuli, or something else, maybe some
Speaker 2: civilian playing games, we have a huge hole over our
Speaker 2: most sensitive nuclear power facilities because, as he explained to me,
Speaker 2: the reactors themselves are very, very well protected. They have
Speaker 2: incredible quantities of concrete surrounding them But to take out
Speaker 2: a nuclear reactor, all you need to do is damage
Speaker 2: the cooling pond or other sections of the nuclear site
Speaker 2: that I'm not going to reveal. And he says you
Speaker 2: can disarm and disable a nuclear power plant using a
Speaker 2: $ 10 drone with impunity. They can't even shoot it down.
Speaker 2: And if it was alien, Walter, well, as you and
Speaker 2: the Midnight Misfits now know, they wouldn't even be able
Speaker 2: to tell the difference.
Speaker 1: Now, Ross Coldheart, News Nation, as a man of action
Speaker 1: like me, our first reaction, if we're stationed at a nuclear,
Speaker 1: nuclear power plant and we see objects that we cannot
Speaker 1: identify and our control towers are saying we don't know
Speaker 1: what that is, we're going to shoot them down. What
Speaker 1: happens to this? who say i'm going to shoot.
Speaker 2: It down they would go to jail for committing a
Speaker 2: felony offense under the aircraft sabotage act it's hilarious walter
Speaker 2: nobody in government has actually thought they've spent so much
Speaker 2: time debunking the uap story and trying to tell us
Speaker 2: that there is no such thing as aliens that they
Speaker 2: haven't addressed the fact that technology has changed. As we
Speaker 2: see in Ukraine now, it's possible to knock out the
Speaker 2: most advanced Soviet Russian tanks with a $ 10, 000 military drone
Speaker 2: carrying armor-piercing weaponry. We can take out nuclear power plants
Speaker 2: from above in ways that weren't contemplated even 10 years ago.
Speaker 2: And the technology is of such a threat that the
Speaker 2: Nuclear Regulatory Commission, according to my informant, Daryl Johnson, the
Speaker 2: guy who used to run their security, he is saying
Speaker 2: that they are woefully unprepared for this kind of incursion,
Speaker 2: whether it be alien or foreign adversary. Whatever it is,
Speaker 2: something has been penetrating these very sensitive nuclear facilities with
Speaker 2: total impunity.
Speaker 1: Do you think Daryl Johnson, your source, is in any
Speaker 1: danger for revealing this.
Speaker 2: No, he's a ballsy guy, Walter. One of the things
Speaker 2: I love about America, in the English system we operate
Speaker 2: under in Australia, people get intimidated by governments. But the
Speaker 2: thing I love about America is you guys were imbued
Speaker 2: with civics. You're not taught to hate the media and
Speaker 2: you're not taught to not be a whistleblower. People are
Speaker 2: encouraged to come forward when they see wrong.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: And I really admire that about America. People speak out
Speaker 2: when they see wrong. And he's a good, brave man.
Speaker 2: He's written a terrific book that basically highlights chapter and
Speaker 2: verse the failings inside the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And I
Speaker 2: sincerely hope the top people in Washington listen to him.
Speaker 2: Because interestingly enough, he was one of the guys who
Speaker 2: sounded the alarm about right wing groups shortly before the
Speaker 2: January 6th congressional takeover where the congress was invaded by
Speaker 2: thugs that trashed the congress so um you know he's
Speaker 2: one of the people who i think has persistently taken
Speaker 2: a strong stand on combating and predicting threats and good
Speaker 2: on him for writing the book he's written.
Speaker 1: Ross colthart news nation what's the name of the show
Speaker 1: how can we see you on news nation
Speaker 2: Reality check ross colthart thank you walter