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<v Speaker 1>My God, Ross Caldhart, journalist, award-winning broadcaster, expert on UFOs,

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories, and our government's failure to inform us. He's

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<v Speaker 1>live in Sydney, Australia. He works with News Nation. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, Ross.

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<v Speaker 2>G'day, Walter, and g'day, Midnight Misfits. I'm talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>place called Susquehanna, which is a power station, which is

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<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania, the Susquehanna Steam Electric Station in Pennsylvania. And

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<v Speaker 2>you and I, Walter, have been very prominent, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>in taking a very sceptical view over the last few

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<v Speaker 2>years about the official explanation for the unexplained objects that

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<v Speaker 2>have been breaching airspace over often very sensitive government military facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>but especially just over suburban New Jersey for many, many months.

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<v Speaker 2>And you and I were both talking many times on

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<v Speaker 2>this show about the fact that time and time again,

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<v Speaker 2>we are told by the authorities that these are just drones.

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<v Speaker 2>And the most banal explanation being offered by those in

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<v Speaker 2>charge is that clearly some naughty person is just putting

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<v Speaker 2>up a commercial or maybe even a military-sized drone and

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<v Speaker 2>breaching the airspace over sensitive civil aviation facilities. And don't

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<v Speaker 2>you worry your tiny little heads about this. There's really

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to worry about. It's nothing anomalous. Well, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>I have just put to air an interview with a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who I think puts this to rest once and

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<v Speaker 2>for all, and he is very strongly of the view

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to take anomalous phenomena over sensitive military

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<v Speaker 2>and civilian facilities extremely seriously indeed. The guy's name is

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<v Speaker 2>Daryl Johnson, and he's a very... Big banana. He's formerly

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<v Speaker 2>one of the top experts on domestic terrorism in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. He worked in a counterterrorism role in the U.S. Army,

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<v Speaker 2>and he ended up working inside the office of. the

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<v Speaker 2>Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Office of Nuclear Security and Incident Response,

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<v Speaker 2>doing all of the security for the body that controls

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<v Speaker 2>the security over some of our most sensitive nuclear plants.

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<v Speaker 2>And what he's discovered is truly shocking. Forgive me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting somebody... Believe me, I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right. Pause if you need to, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear this Story. This is clearly a big story, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was responsible for monitoring, assessing, and trending all

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<v Speaker 2>drone and UAP flyovers at every single commercial nuclear power

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<v Speaker 2>reactor and fuel cycle facility across the United States. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Darrell who wrote the annual report to Congress for

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<v Speaker 2>the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's security inspection programs. He was responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for all of the security advisories sent to all the licensees,

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<v Speaker 2>and he reviewed all of the suspicious activity reports from

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<v Speaker 2>all licensees. And essentially, he was the guy who did

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<v Speaker 2>the trend analysis on what is actually being seen over

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<v Speaker 2>these nuclear power plants. And his job was to coordinate

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<v Speaker 2>with the Department of Defense's UFO Investigation Office, the All

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<v Speaker 2>Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, on UAPs. And what he revealed

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<v Speaker 2>to me in this interview is quite shocking because he's

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<v Speaker 2>discovered that, for example, at Susquehanna, 22nd of October 2022,

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<v Speaker 2>what was officially described as a drone was a gigantic

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<v Speaker 2>black triangular object with a large spotlight that hovered over

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear power plant for two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hours?

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<v Speaker 2>And it did this with total impunity, shining down a

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<v Speaker 2>huge spotlight over one of the most sensitive facilities that

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<v Speaker 2>has nuclear power in the United States. And what's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>is the official explanation is that these were just one

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<v Speaker 2>of several drones that breached the airspace. That's what the

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<v Speaker 2>public have been told by the NRC. But the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is from the guy who was in charge of security,

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks these are anomalous. He says the lights were very,

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<v Speaker 2>very prominent. If somebody was trying to hide this object,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a very, very clearly, obviously well-lit craft that

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<v Speaker 2>was clearly some kind of structured craft. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>black triangle. No noise was heard. Absolutely no sign of

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<v Speaker 2>any propellers or no jet engines, no turbines, a completely

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<v Speaker 2>silent object hovering only very, very low over the head

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<v Speaker 2>of security guards. And they were completely hopeless in their

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<v Speaker 2>inability to be able to do anything about it. And

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<v Speaker 2>what's interesting, Walter, and you and I have spoken about

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<v Speaker 2>this before, that all too often what I suspect is

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<v Speaker 2>described as a drone is is purely and simply an

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<v Speaker 2>unexplained object and that the official default position now has

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<v Speaker 2>come to be that UAPs, unidentified anomalous phenomena, objects like

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<v Speaker 2>this black triangle, are reported either as drones or not

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And that's exactly what Daryl Johnson tells me

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<v Speaker 2>in the interview that we've just put to air. He

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<v Speaker 2>says that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission He says it's incredibly serious.

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<v Speaker 2>He says they're getting incomplete data because there's no guidance

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<v Speaker 2>that distinguishes UAPs, that is potentially anomalous objects, from unmanned

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<v Speaker 2>aerial systems, drones. Nobody knows how to tell the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said that inside the NRC, when he tried

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<v Speaker 2>to raise this as a concern, nobody cared. They actually

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<v Speaker 2>tried to discourage him from reporting it to the Pentagon's

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<v Speaker 2>UAP office. And he was saying, he doesn't say that

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<v Speaker 2>they are extraterrestrial, but he did tell me, quote, something

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<v Speaker 2>is observing us. We don't know what it is or

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<v Speaker 2>who controls it. But he said that in his time

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<v Speaker 2>at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, he, Daryl Johnson, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of security, saw time and time again objects

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<v Speaker 2>being explained away as drones when he could not plausibly

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<v Speaker 2>explain what they were. And he said he didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>there was any willingness inside the NRC, which of course

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<v Speaker 2>is the body that is meant to be protecting us all,

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<v Speaker 2>from the possibility of the nuclear materials inside these plants

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<v Speaker 2>being swept away by some dastardly terrorist. Basically, his division

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<v Speaker 2>director laughed at the idea of aliens or UAPs and joked.

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<v Speaker 2>And he basically discouraged him from making a report to

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon, as he was required to do by law.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he's gone public with me and it's quite

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<v Speaker 2>a major story. I'm genuinely concerned by what he reveals

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<v Speaker 2>because what he's saying is that even if you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to bring down these objects, I said to him, why

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<v Speaker 2>didn't somebody just shoot down these craft over these areas?

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<v Speaker 2>And he laughed and he said, you wouldn't believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>A drone is defined as an aircraft under FAA laws.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's a breach of the Aircraft Sabotage Act

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot down a drone, even if it's hovering over

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most sensitive nuclear facilities in Pennsylvania. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said it's a potential felony liability for the security

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<v Speaker 2>staff at a nuclear power plant to either jam, damage, destroy,

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<v Speaker 2>hack or seize any kind of aircraft, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a remotely controlled drone. All they can do is watch

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<v Speaker 2>the object and watch it leave. So really, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>power to do anything. So whether this is Chinese, little

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<v Speaker 2>green men from Zeta Reticuli, or something else, maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>civilian playing games, we have a huge hole over our

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<v Speaker 2>most sensitive nuclear power facilities because, as he explained to me,

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<v Speaker 2>the reactors themselves are very, very well protected. They have

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<v Speaker 2>incredible quantities of concrete surrounding them But to take out

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<v Speaker 2>a nuclear reactor, all you need to do is damage

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<v Speaker 2>the cooling pond or other sections of the nuclear site

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not going to reveal. And he says you

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<v Speaker 2>can disarm and disable a nuclear power plant using a

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<v Speaker 2>$ 10 drone with impunity. They can't even shoot it down.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it was alien, Walter, well, as you and

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<v Speaker 2>the Midnight Misfits now know, they wouldn't even be able

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Ross Coldheart, News Nation, as a man of action

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<v Speaker 1>like me, our first reaction, if we're stationed at a nuclear,

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear power plant and we see objects that we cannot

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<v Speaker 1>identify and our control towers are saying we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that is, we're going to shoot them down. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens to this? who say i'm going to shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>It down they would go to jail for committing a

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<v Speaker 2>felony offense under the aircraft sabotage act it's hilarious walter

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<v Speaker 2>nobody in government has actually thought they've spent so much

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<v Speaker 2>time debunking the uap story and trying to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>that there is no such thing as aliens that they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't addressed the fact that technology has changed. As we

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<v Speaker 2>see in Ukraine now, it's possible to knock out the

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<v Speaker 2>most advanced Soviet Russian tanks with a $ 10, 000 military drone

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<v Speaker 2>carrying armor-piercing weaponry. We can take out nuclear power plants

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<v Speaker 2>from above in ways that weren't contemplated even 10 years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And the technology is of such a threat that the

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<v Speaker 2>Nuclear Regulatory Commission, according to my informant, Daryl Johnson, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who used to run their security, he is saying

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<v Speaker 2>that they are woefully unprepared for this kind of incursion,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it be alien or foreign adversary. Whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>something has been penetrating these very sensitive nuclear facilities with

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<v Speaker 2>total impunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Daryl Johnson, your source, is in any

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<v Speaker 1>danger for revealing this.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's a ballsy guy, Walter. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>I love about America, in the English system we operate

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<v Speaker 2>under in Australia, people get intimidated by governments. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing I love about America is you guys were imbued

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<v Speaker 2>with civics. You're not taught to hate the media and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not taught to not be a whistleblower. People are

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<v Speaker 2>encouraged to come forward when they see wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really admire that about America. People speak out

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<v Speaker 2>when they see wrong. And he's a good, brave man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's written a terrific book that basically highlights chapter and

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<v Speaker 2>verse the failings inside the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And I

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<v Speaker 2>sincerely hope the top people in Washington listen to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Because interestingly enough, he was one of the guys who

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<v Speaker 2>sounded the alarm about right wing groups shortly before the

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<v Speaker 2>January 6th congressional takeover where the congress was invaded by

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<v Speaker 2>thugs that trashed the congress so um you know he's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the people who i think has persistently taken

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<v Speaker 2>a strong stand on combating and predicting threats and good

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<v Speaker 2>on him for writing the book he's written.

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<v Speaker 1>Ross colthart news nation what's the name of the show

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<v Speaker 1>how can we see you on news nation

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<v Speaker 2>Reality check ross colthart thank you walter