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let's get out to the hot line. Welcome in former

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b YU great, one of the best athletes to come

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through Brigham and I was looking up the status here.

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He's ranked fifty fifth all time in total tackles with

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two hundred and five and he may be the fastest

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linebacker to come through Brigham. Let's welcome in Brian Keel,

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my former teammate. Be How the heck are you man?

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Speaker 4: Doing well? Brother? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 3: What's what's keeping the Keel zone busy these days?

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Speaker 2: Give us an.

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Speaker 4: Update, same same stuff. Since the new year, kids are

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getting older, Winter sports and in full effect basically keeps

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us busy every evening. So other than that, just enjoying

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the maybe the pinnaple of YU sports. Maybe maybe the

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best year in sports. We'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you were part of a great era

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for basketball and football combined football. You can make an

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argument during that era, the the four year stretch from

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like you know, two or five year five, two thousand

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and five, two thousand and nine, that's one of the

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winningest eras in bya football history or part of that.

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The best era you know, for many was the eighties,

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late seventies, early eighties with a national championship and you

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had you had Danny Ainge and and great kid in

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the and the crew leading them to an elite eight,

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so that that that combo was pretty special. Do you

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think this era, the Kilani era, uh, in the last

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you know, four or five years, is uh is rival

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rivalrying the uh the era that you played in and

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maybe even surpassing uh the best era of college athletics

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history at b YU.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, uh, this is gonna be a golden age.

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And yeah, the eighties were absolutely amazing. Obviously, it's hard

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to beat a national championship. But I'm also you know,

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I'm a realist, and I understand that the schedule that

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they played in that year wasn't that tough, and uh,

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you know that's that's the way the BYU won it's

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national championship is a method that I'm totally against.

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Speaker 5: You know, they were they were chosen, they won all.

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Speaker 4: Their games, nobody else won all their games, and then

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they were chosen, right, and and I'm against that that's

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the same that's the same methodology that kept by U

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out of the playoffs this year. They were not chosen

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even though even though they had earned it. So, you

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know what, what is my my point? My point is,

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like I I think right now, the the talent that

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is both on the team and then on the on

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the opposing teams, the the strength of schedule, the difficulty

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of the schedule. I just I just think it's some

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parallels both well, not just football but basketball too. Yeah,

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which this is going to be the Golden age, That's

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Speaker 3: Saying, the golden era of b y U athletics and

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what what has has created this golden era? Would you say,

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like if you were we always talked about PI chart

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accountability on the show.

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Speaker 2: You know what where do you who do you dole

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Speaker 3: The credibility to the the you know, the merit to

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in this process to what and who?

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Speaker 4: So well, before I answer that, I'll answer that, but

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well back to what you said. You know, like when

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a great era too. But this is still the same thing.

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playing against now, and and so it's just it's not

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it's apples oranges comparison.

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Speaker 5: And so it's just it's really.

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Speaker 4: Hard to compare eras.

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Speaker 5: So go back to the to the question that.

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Speaker 4: You just said. Honestly, I think it is the decision

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makers being willing to allocate the resources, be that time

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for dollar bills to go match up with the talent

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and the dedication and the passion that boy you has

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always had. And I think that's the difference the last

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couple of years in football and basketball that has that

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has boosted them up. It's I think it's the combination

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of the passion that's always been there and now all

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of a sudden, which has not always been there, a

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willingness to allocate resources that's never been done before. And

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when when thost things get together, great things happen. So

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that's what we're seeing.

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Speaker 2: Resources matter.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt I think in the in times past

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when we've maybe heaped criticism, you can look at the

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resource critique. We've also discussed on these airways before, like

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how by us changing culturally from an our coach standpoint right,

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how they're approaching that, how they're uh, maybe approaching recruiting

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obviously stuff to find the right fits, et cetera. Being

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in a P four h P four conference helps that

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the additional revenue money coming from TV and then that

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being obviously allocated as you mentioned, Uh, Kilan's culture I

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think deserves some credit here too, and how it attracts

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and retains talent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and before somebody out there that's listening

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or who's not listening, or anybody as well, they just

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they just spent money. That's not obviously they have, but

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that's not all that it takes. And and you don't

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have to look any further than like say LSU who

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was was mediocre at best this season and spent all

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sorts of money. And and they're not the only one.

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Michigan Texas was was decent but not great, and they

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at the top. And the list goes on and on,

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and so it's not just spending money. It's both. It's

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culture like you just mentioned, and the money and the resources,

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the passion, all that stuff, it all goes together. And

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uh and so yeah, That's that's what they have there

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in Provo, and that's why we're seeing what we're seeing

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in the two flagship sports of football and basketball and

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all the other sports. They've always been great, They've always dominated,

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and it warms my heart to see it. They win,

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they win offers championships like it's nobody's business, and they

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win national championships and it's awesome and and and that's

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part of why I love BYU because it's just a

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place of excellence everywhere you look, not just sports, not

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just the main sports, but all the sports, and not

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just the athletic department, the whole the whole university is

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is just a culture of excellence and I just absolutely

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love it.

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Speaker 3: As you why former b YU ray Brian Keel here

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on your UTAI ESBN radio network getting a little keeping

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up with the Cougars and getting his thoughts on BAU football.

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Uh who is Kelly pepinga Brian Keel? And Uh what

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was your reaction when he became the defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 4: I mean, to me, he's just a great friend and teammate.

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for him personally and then also for the program and

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and just everything that it means. And it's just, uh,

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it's just cool to see somebody that that you you bled,

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sweat and cried with on the battlefield twenty years ago.

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Speaker 5: To rise to this level. I mean, it's just so cool.

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Speaker 4: One of one of the greatest times of my life

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was a two month period that I was training after

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after the senior right after our senior season in California,

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and I lived with Kelly and we were training and

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it was just it was one of the greatest times

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of my life because it was just it was so

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on to to have no other focus other than football,

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improving our bodies, and and then all the hope that was,

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you know, the hope, just the hope of what was

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hopefully to come for in the next couple of months,

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And it was just such a fun time. I absolutely

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loved it. And I have always loved Kelly, but that

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was that was just a fun time. And and it's

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been really really cool to see him progressed throughout his career.

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And I'm just excited for this opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kate Pop's got his opportunity, and I think he's

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gonna seize it. He's got a lot of mentors in

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his life after the Bronco was a mentor of ours

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as well. He's going to take components of maybe the

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Bronco era what he learned at Virginia. He's got Gary

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Anderson J. Hill touch points. Now it'll be probably a

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combination of of those coordinators. I'm sure there's other touch

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points as well that he's he's mentioned and he's going.

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Speaker 2: To put his own flair to it.

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Speaker 3: What what type of defense do you think we'll see

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. And while you were saying that,

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it actually just made me think of something piggybacking off

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of what I just mentioned. You know, Kelly and I

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we went to this facility and we trained for two months,

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and it was it was revolutionary for me. I I

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to gain weight and really couldn't do it.

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Speaker 5: And then we go to this place.

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Speaker 4: We're there for two months and I gained twelve pounds

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and my body fat went down. I mean just was

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was different. But then beyond that was the science, the

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nutrition and the science. And anyway back out of the

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times your question, So you know Kelly and I were

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there for two months, and what did Kelly do? Kelly

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recorded the workouts and at that at that point in time,

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go into the support science sports exercise science, yep, and

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and either be a strength coach or a trainer or

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something in that in that realm. This was before he

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had decided to go into quoting. Obviously he went he

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went to the Cardinals and he was there for a

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year and and that, but this before any of that.

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and and for the upcoming season. And Kelly had all

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the workouts, he had everything diagrammed. What's my point here,

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Kelly is the type of guy that is gonna he's

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gonna extract all the usefulness from his surroundings. So going

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back to what you said, Yeah, we were all meantored

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by Bronco and and some people are able to extract

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what Bronco has to offer, and Kelly is the type

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of guy who absolutely did that. And and then and

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then you you know, you go to his time at

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Boise and he's the type to extract to useful information

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from UH. And then the last couple of years with

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Jay Hill, who is a phenomenal coach obviously, and I

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have the highest esteem for I think Kelly has extracted

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all of the information from him, and so I just

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that's why I have such my expectations that hope for Kelly,

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has that work ethic as well, and when you combine

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Speaker 3: One of the things that we've debated amongst fans, amongst

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maybe even former players, is you know what type of

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure it'll be multiple.

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Speaker 3: But this last year I was I was kind of

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the percentages and and I this is a rough count,

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in the building. It was roughly U seventy thirty front

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with a stand up outside edge similar to what we played,

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but not always the weak side ed. You'd have a

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strong side edge stand up uh, you know, kind of

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like a new seat time with baby Jack Kelly off

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that strong side edge. They ran a lot of nickel too.

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They ran some like three three five in that out

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of that thirty front. A lot of us, you know,

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we've always want to, Hey, we want to get in

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that forty front, and BA fans want that, and it's

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what Kyle's done and Jay did and Gary did.

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Speaker 2: It at Utah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the future of bau's defense

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or for it's more of this hybrid with a majority

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of it being you know, seventy sixty percent of it

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being more of a thirty front with a stand up

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outside edge. Two point guy, give me your thoughts on

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this and what you would.

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Speaker 2: Like to see.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I think that that stuff's important, But I think

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what's most important is crafting your scheme to the personnel

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that you have. And I think there's a lot of

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really clever and really X and O sound football coaches

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out there that are just stuck on their scheme or

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whatever it might be when they don't have the personnel

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to run it, and and so you know, I I

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personally I like a.

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Speaker 5: Four four down front, but like you know, in order

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to in order.

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Speaker 4: To run that, you need you need the personnel. And

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so so that that's what's going to come into play.

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They can recruit who they can bring in and what

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type of guys they have, and I imagine that, you know,

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Kelly will adapt this scheme to to the guys. And

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I think that's the reason why we've seen that the

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last couple of years, and that's what I expect going

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forward is is, uh, you adapt, You adapt to your

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X and o's, to the Willis and the Joe's that

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you have on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Do you think we're going to get to a point

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where and I've made these these comments before, it's like

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typically with the four down front, like you need you

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need some dogs, You need some dudes up there, like

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you know, watch that Texas Tech Defense a front, but

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they have they have two deep there too. So you

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have to have at least four dudes at defensive tackle

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that can win one on ones and be twitchy. You

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need four dudes at the defensive end spot that are

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at that two fifty two sixty range that have great

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ability and great band or even just ridiculous length, et cetera,

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and twitch. It's like, are we going to be able

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to find that as a you know, four round guys?

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Is that the most likely year in a year out?

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Speaker 2: Or is it? What we've seen.

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Speaker 3: Over the last thirty forty years BYU has been more

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LBU than it's been any other position. Quarterback, offensive line,

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running back, you know, it's it's tight end. We've had

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more LBUS. We produce more linebackers than we do any

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other position.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, Yeah, I agree with that, and I

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think that has been our history, but I don't necessarily

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think that's our future, like meaning it's a given that

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that that will say the same And to like to

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the point that you were just making, I think if

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you look nationally, the two best defensive fronts in my

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opinion are Texas Tech and Miami and absolutely just traumatized

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quarterbacks with the with the pressure, with the pressure that

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they bring. And and it's a that's a that's a

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that's a William Joe thing. That's just that's just dudes,

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that's not scheme, that's not you.

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Speaker 5: Know, there's some of that that goes into it, but

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it's just those guys.

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Speaker 4: Those guys are just dogs, like like you just mentioned

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the guy, the guys that those two two teams have,

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and I think now that going back to what we

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said with the willingness to allocate resources, I think I

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think those that type of dog is in play. And

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and it's still yeah, it's got to be a cultural

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fit and it's got to be an honor code fit

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and and all that stuff. But I think that's in play.

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I think it's it's available and put be on the horizon.

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I don't I don't know if it's you know, I'm

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not predict predicting or or you know, but I think

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that's in play. And I think that that's proven. And

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in terms of disrupting the quarterback, I think that's that's

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the best way to do it. But again, you got

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to have those dogs, and not everybody has them.

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Speaker 3: The transfer portal giveth and it taketh away. B y

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U has required seven guys, right, seven dudes. Three of

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them are offensive lineman. You did pick up a linebacker

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that could replace Jack Kelly and Kato Lave and all

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ASC player that vic Oda, one of our teammates, coached

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up and he's a. You know, Vick is a fantastic coach.

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Okaiate's gonna come into ball out Jake Clifton linebacker, Kansas

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State wide receiver Kyle Casper and Uh Walker Lyons uh

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tight end out a USC You know this roster.

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Speaker 2: You watch a lot of football, Keel.

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Speaker 3: You know if you were to say, hey, there's a

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couple of positions or a couple acquisitions in a position

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group that you'd like to see, what are they and why?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So well, let's just go back to our season.

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Speaker 4: Obviously we lost to one team. Okay, we lost to

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Texas Tech twice. Why did we lose those games? I

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think were competitive enough to win Defensively, I think offensively

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we couldn't move the ball, couldn't couldn't generate the points

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competitively enough to win those games. Why Why could we not?

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Why could we Why could we score points on everybody

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else but not on Texas Tech? I think it was

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a matchup issue. I think it that that's part of

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the problem. I think part of it was having a

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young freshman quarterback who had a phenomenal year, of record

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setting year, just an extraordinary year, but still as a

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freshman and and you know, still a little nervous, and

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you know, not not experience, not a seasoned veteran to

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to to to go against the defense that suffocating. But

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then the other issue is and and we've talked about this,

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it's it's it's somebody who can create separation at will

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and stretch the field. And this is this is an

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issue that by us always had. If you go back

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to our senior year, you know we we are our

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big competition was TCU and Utah and and it was

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tough against those defenses with with athletic secondary for our

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receivers to create separation and and score the points that

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we scored on everybody else. And and when I want

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us play Texas Tech twice, that's what I that's what

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my mind went back to, is the receiver quarterbacks back

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there and there's nowhere to go with the ball. There's

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just where are you gonna go with the ball and

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you wants it from the wide angle, there's just nowhere

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to go to the ball. And it's it's we we

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need we need more guys that can create separation. And

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that that's the one thing I think that we'll really

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take our team to the next level. In my humble opinion.

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Speaker 3: So separation in the wide receiver room, separation cand occur

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from like a tight end, right walker, lions come from

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usc possiblely Carson Ryan had a pretty good year, you know,

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but but running backs to can create separation. Mean, Harvey

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and Kurtis were really good at their one on one

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right you so kind of break down a little bit

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more of the separation. Uh, and where it comes from?

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only place where separation comes from. In terms of what

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it is that position. It's a guy, it's a it's

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a it's just a top end receiver who can stretch

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the field and and and stress the defense. And you know,

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that's that's something that we really haven't ever had at

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least consistency consistently. And today, you know, the game of

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football is all about that player that's that wide receiver.

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Once that that that stresses the defense. So the decoordinator

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is at night late thinking how can I stop this guy?

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If I don't account for this guy, it's going to

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burn us and and it just.

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Speaker 5: Changes the game.

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Speaker 4: When you have that, you know that guy doesn't even

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need to get the ball. He doesn't even need to

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have eight for one hundred and ten and a touchdown

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he took to change the game. It's just the threat

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of that guy and that opens everything up. But it'll

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open It creates separation for the other receivers, and it

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opens up the running game so that the running game's

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not jet so so jammed up. And if you go

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back to those those two Texas Tech losses, part of

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our issue was we could not run the ball. We

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ran the ball great on everybody else, if we could

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not run the ball against those guys, and it, you know,

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stimied up the rest of our offense. And so they

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go hand in hand. And I think for us to

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really get to the next level, which is which what's

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what's the next level, it's getting in the playoff and

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winning playoff games. That's the next level. And in order

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to do that, I think that's what we need.

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Speaker 3: Brian kil Former b Y, you're great talking to some

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BYU football here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. Last

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thing before we let you go, Keel Zone, appreciate you

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hopping on talking some ball with me today.

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Speaker 2: And excited to see. You know what, B Why You

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not only.

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Speaker 3: Retained most of their most of their roster, all their

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key players, but they also retain their offensive coordinator, all

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their offensive coaches. They lost Jay Hill and General Those

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were two big losses, There's no doubt, but much of

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everything that makes B WHYU great over the last five

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years is retained. And so I think it leans into

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your golden era initial commentary. It's like, man, that's special, right,

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that that that we're trending in that direction and that

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all this retention is happening while all the new resources

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are coming in. And so next season, do you think

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B why You can be better? Do you think they

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will be better than they were this year?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I do.

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Speaker 5: I think they will take a step forward and be better.

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Speaker 4: I think, uh. I think with everything that you just mentioned,

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it just it gives me confidence that, honestly that I

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really don't know that I've had before. You know, it's

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it's always it's just kind of like a wait and

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hope for the next season. But I think we're at

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a point now where it's this expectations and if you

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look at the premiere programs in the country, which is

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where we want to get. I mean, it is year

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after year, it's.

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Speaker 5: Just a given that they're going to be competing.

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Speaker 4: On the biggest stage. And I think that's I mean,

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we're not there yet obviously, but that's where I think

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we're capable of getting where I want to get, where

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I think all the decision makers down there want to get.

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And so that's what it is. It's this year and

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year out. It's expecting the most and then doing what

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it takes to then go deliver it. So yeah, I do.

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I expect us to be to pick up right where

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we left off and take a big step forward. And

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the biggest piece of that is that young Stresman quarterback,

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who is phenomenal, is now going to be a second

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year quarterback and have a year of live bullets under

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his belt. And I think he's just gonna be that

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much better. And that's that's why I'm excited and so optimistic.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I have one the last question for as debating

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with John about this recently, is weight gain for a

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quarterback good or not good for their throwing strength.

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Speaker 2: We talked to Bear Bachmeyer. You know, he's a hefty dude.

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Speaker 3: He's a hefty dude, right, he's got he's got some

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girth to him. He was listed I think at two

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twenty and then it was moved to like two thirty. Man,

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he looked like he was rumbling around at like two

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forty this season. Should he drop weight, gain weight, keep

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his weight the same? What do you think and what

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type of impact does it have on throw and arm strength?

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Speaker 4: I think whatever weight he was at, he should try

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to hold. And if I were this is just me,

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if I was him, I think he should maybe try

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to lean up at that weight. Yeah, and that is

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more for elusiveness and wiggle than anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Uh.

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Speaker 4: In terms of in terms of throwing the ball, I

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don't think weight, I don't. It doesn't matter. It's just

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that's torque and leverage and mechanics and uh, that's I

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don't think that's going to factor in, uh in throwing

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the ball, because I mean, there's there's hefty quarterbacks, there's

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skinny quarterbacks. I mean I've I've seen some of the

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skinniest quarterbacks absolutely have rifles for arms. And I played

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with one. Sam Bradford was a was you know, the

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look the look at the guy was a wet noodle.

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But he had an absolute hannon on his shoulder, and

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you know, and then and then there's the other end

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of the spectral too. So I don't think that matters.

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But elusiveness, I think, uh, if you lean that up

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and develop that, I mean, how how old is barriers

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eighteen is the nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's a young buck. Dude, Yeah he's nineteen.

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Speaker 4: I think something like that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, he's just you're not.

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Speaker 4: Your explosiveness is not it's not maxed out at that age,

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like you know, that's he's still got double years of

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explosive increase and you know, twitch, multile fiber and and

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so that's the stuff. Like if I was him, that's

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what I would focus on. And and it's going back.

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It's for elusiveness for its capability. The best the best quarterbacks,

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the best quarterbacks in today's football, they can throw it

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and they ca them get away m hm. And that

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that takes, that takes his capability.

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