Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of
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Speaker 1: Yes, we are here to celebrate the new Star Wars
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on episodes one and two that have both dropped today.
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everything you do you do it? Well? What else do
we have? We have side quests that drops this week
where we myself, Kirkland and Dylan cover the predictions for
the twenty twenty four Video Game Awards with Jeff Keeley.
He wasn't on the podcast, but he's there at the videga.
Speaker 3: He was under the weather. He was supposed to show up,
but yeah, his voice wasn't there.
Speaker 1: We had a whole thing and drones was coming down
water pulling him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely go check out that episode of yours as
to what we're alluding to.
Speaker 1: Last week, we also did a newscast Craven the Hunter
predictions and speaking of Craven the Hunter, that will be
coming your way next week a review for that and
Dylan and Kirklan, you guys will be doing a roll
hear him whether we're hearing Lord of the Rings review
as well. And then this week we're also going to
be starting up Creature Commando's reviews. A lot of stuff
that's popping off. It's gonna be a good time. And
I think, are you ready?
Speaker 3: Are you ready for all these reviews we're doing. I
feel like I feel like we just did a lot
of stuff, but it still kind of feels like we're
in between like the tides. Like there there was like
a big wave and then like a little bit of
a mellow. I don't know, maybe I just always have
that feeling as we're coming up to a new series.
It's like, Okay, here we go, let's get ready for
this this new ride. But how do you feel I
kind of December coming up?
Speaker 1: Well, that's and that's just it. I kind of affiliate
December of being like, Okay, we're low key, you know,
we're kind of relaxed. But like Travis is like, I'm
gonna I'm gonna go on a hiatus.
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, tells us to start December, Like, oh yeah,
I'm picking a couple of months off.
Speaker 4: Good luck, guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we're picking up the slack and yeah, I
mean I'm gearing up. I'm getting ready for it. It's
gonna be It's gonna be a fun December, that's for sure.
Lots of good stuff. So I'm excited for it. But
was there anything else you want to shout it out?
Or should we just get into our question before we
get to Nott spoilers?
Speaker 4: Actually anything, You nailed it all, so good job to you.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello Dalton. So you just it's just so the
listeners here can get kind of caught up to speed.
You have not seen a Soca? Have you finished Accolyte?
Speaker 4: I was with you, wasn't I wasn't I on the
fanatical I.
Speaker 1: Don't remember, so yes, okay, because I thought there was
like a brief portion you weren't there for it. I
don't know if it's I don't know if it's bad
that you don't remember me being there, or if it's
even worse that for some reason I don't I can't
even confirm if I was on that episode with you,
but I.
Speaker 3: I do remember watching all of the Accolyte. Yes, but no,
I have not started Ahsoka and uh, I don't know.
Like I I am interested in watching it. I've heard
good things. You know that you and I are going
through Daredevil, So we were talking about Rosario Dawson and like,
I'm I'm a big fan of her, so I should
be jumping in there. But a Soco retro A solo
A Soco retro for.
Speaker 4: No, I'm definitely not committing right now.
Speaker 3: At the start of a Star Wars Skeleton Crew review,
But no, I what else?
Speaker 4: What else are you gonna keep going with or is
it just.
Speaker 1: That that was it? The main thing was just with
the Soca because it kind of if I'm correct, I
think it has a similar kind of time period at
least with all this show kind of started off about
the Yeah, like again post episode six, it just kind
of has that that kind of stuff going down. But
by all means, get get into your nitty gritty spoiler
free unless I'm skipping ahead too.
Speaker 3: Fast nor your perfect pace. Thank you sir for that
beautiful intro. No, I yeah, I mean coming into this show,
I feel like I remember watching the trailer and not
really knowing too much more of the show like beforehand,
Like I think I just went into it. There's gonna
be a more youth oriented show set in the Star
Wars universe. We got Jude Law in there with you know,
potential some force powers that was shown in the trailer,
and I don't know, it was like, Okay, that's interesting.
It seems like it's not really going to be my
type of audience show at Star Wars, so I will
be I'll be checking it out nonetheless, but yeah, like
I'm not going to be deep diving on like details
like waiting itching at the bit to get some sauce
that's gonna be coming from the scale Thon Creer. So
I feel like coming into it, I didn't really remember
actually like the time period like where it was even.
Speaker 4: Set around, So of course, you know, spoiler free.
Speaker 3: But they open with a little bit of I'm not
gonna call it a crawl, just a little bit of
like context I guess of what's currently going on in
the Star Wars universe. Then yeah, that's where they sit.
They're talking about a little bit of New Republic stuff.
So are you expecting like a crossover thing, like like,
is there characters that have like maybe I should save
that for spoiler, Like I don't even I don't even
know if there is a spoiler there though, because I
wouldn't know any references. But you just mentioning that they're
similar time periods.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so I mean even even then this that
that Mando and then this, they're all post episode sex,
so they all have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's no like like detailed of like it's
all within like three years of each other, these shows.
It's it could be kind of anything, right, A lot
of time frame between them.
Speaker 1: There's there's one thing I'll say in spoilers, Okay, that
might make them closer proximity though we will interest act.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm excited to get to spoiler section, so
I will carry on with my my spoiler fee thoughts
on Yeah, Skeleton crek here. I I feel like coming
into it something that I'm not gonna say bother me,
but it definitely like didn't set me feeling the right way.
Maybe is like the similarities maybe to like modern life
and what this universe is kind of being shown, Like
they show some like suburban neighborhoods, like kids on like
a school bus, and just like a lot of similarities
there where I feel like it didn't really feel very
Star warsy for me just seeing stuff like that, and
I feel like I completely forgot about that going into
the show, and then you know, there's some stuff around
that and it kind of like caught me off guard again.
Speaker 4: Of maybe just not really liking it. I feel like.
Speaker 3: Going into the show, though, like with the knowledge of
it being more focused for like a younger audience, I
feel like maybe it helped though, Like some of our
characters that we get introduced to, I do like some
of them. I feel like they they're pretty charismatic, and
they're they're pretty funny, and the humor around the show,
I feel like is actually one of the most positive
things for me. Like I feel like some of the
characters are just naturally funny with each other. So that
was a little bit of a surprise in the in
the right way. But a lot of like the story stuff,
I just I don't know, I feel like I'm not
really caring, like like like what the mission is right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's too harsh.
Speaker 3: But like I maybe would have hoped for more from
the first two episodes of like really being interested in
what the mission's gonna be for the adventure, but it
just seems like it's gonna be I don't know, like
like these children just kind of on on a space
adventure and uh, I don't know. I'm maybe they'll surprise
me in in future episodes, but I think I would
have wanted a little bit more of that, and uh,
at least the second episode. But yeah, I don't know,
But I like the I like the music, I like
some of the world building things that are going on.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say too much because I do
want to kind of unravel more specifics of what's going on,
but I think my expectations are kind of met for
what I was expecting, and like, like what ended up
being my overall thoughts on these first two episodes of
just I don't know, not not not really too high,
but definitely not failing. So it's it's it's not horror, yeah,
like horrendous or anything like that. It's passing so far,
maybe I guess I can say that, but very curious
what you uh were thinking in these first two episodes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, getting into this, I was a little bit
apprehensive because I was not entirely impressed with the uh
the the representation of like the city life and and
all that kind of stuff. So that was kind of
a deterrent getting into it. Though, there were some things
that I was actually enjoying and I could tell they
were really going for certain and kind of themes, and
it was just actually like, Okay, there's some kind of
a little bit of magic here and something that I'm
really kind of game for. But then the main child
character child actor, I'm they're kids, and I don't want
to say anything kind of rude, but he's fucking annoying.
He's just I'm so so sorry, and it's not you.
You're a great actor, a little little little kiddo, you
have to lie to them just because it's the I
think it's just the writing of his character. And this
isn't a spoiler, but it's like, don't push anything better
than he's better than his dad, Madison was like Madison
was like his dad is a terrible actor, terrible, terrible.
But yeah, that's gonna They just need to refine some
of the writing a little bit, I think, because yeah, whim,
he's I I'm just not jiving with him. That being
said in episode the first bit of episode one, I
liked his character, and then the ending of episode two
I liked his character, but then there was this whole
bunch of stuff in between in the middle that I
really really just don't like. And when we get into spoilers,
I'm gonna I'm gonna highlight just this thing, the shit
he keeps doing and saying. It's like, fuck, he's annoying,
excuse me, Fern. Fern is pretty cool. All these kids
so far, the other kids and stuff, like I'm driving
with them, I think they're pretty cool. And I will
I will say that there's little like subtle musical cues
that are like reminiscent of old Star Wars pieces, but
then a little bit of something new, which is a
lot a lot of fun. And I think that overall
the show might have a chance a kind of cementing
itself is its own kind of identity and its own
little thing, and it's it's nice that they're exploring a
little bit more of this world that is beyond episode
six before episode seven, especially being a little bit more
pirate centric, like adventurous out there. My closing thought and
then autis spoilers here, is that where the Star Wars
movies and shows and all that feel really heavily like, hey,
it's so easy just to go from point A to
point B and like everything's intertwined and connected and YadA YadA, YadA.
But to be in the perspective of this show, it's
like wow, like things are vast and it's actually like
if you don't know what you're doing, you can get
fucked up pretty easily in the Star Wars universe.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like that little showcase that they had
there that I feel like Star Wars doesn't really do that,
and it's always kind of been I don't know, kind
of a funny thought of like Star Wars is so
expanse in the sense that they go into like hyperspace
and they're going like cross galaxies, and then they go
on the planets and it just seems like a city
right that they're on, Like there's not really other areas
on the planets themselves. So I feel like in a way,
it makes the universe feel really small in those worlds,
because every time they're going to a new world, it
just feels like they're going to a different biome or
something like that, and it doesn't feel like it's that
far away because we just hyperdrive there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I like that moment.
Speaker 3: I think it was episode one where yeah, they just
kind of looking off into the beyond and yeah, it
was I don't know, just really putting things into perspective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Uh. Dalton Jlar says, Honestly, I had
no idea that the show has come out today. I
don't think you're the only one. I got nothing else
spoilers wise.
Speaker 3: Do you no, Let's just get it into the nitty
gritty it came.
Speaker 4: Would you recommend the show?
Speaker 2: Actually, Taylor Field, I would ask you.
Speaker 1: Off of these first two episodes, I would yeah, and anyone,
because to anyone, absolutely, I would say it to anyone.
It feels different enough that people that I think Star
Wars is kind of cement itself into this own, this
kind of like area where people that are Star Wars
fans are not Stars fans just kind of have a
lot of Star Wars like, oh well, they're it's kind
of like the same old like this. But I think
this is new enough and different enough that it might
be able to kind of pull people in, like like
Hower and Or did and Or I feel like as
a very niche kind of thing with Star Wars, but
there's a lot of people that aren't really Star Wars fans,
but they just bring it up like, oh, and Or's great,
but the other stuff, and I feel like this might
have that same effect. So I'm gonna recommend it to
everyone for sure.
Speaker 4: So and Or and this are very similar.
Speaker 1: Basically like carbon Copy.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking that the scene with Andy serkis no,
I can't swim.
Speaker 1: I don't think wim Wim probably.
Speaker 3: Fucking whim Wim can't swim either. Oh man, that's so funny. Okay, Yeah,
let's get into spoilers.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be right back, and we are back,
so I just I gotta you can steer anywhere you want,
but I just got to put this out there right now.
When Whim they're inside the starship and Whim's walking around,
I don't need those guys. I got my own Jedi temple.
I'm thinking, a fuck, I can't handle any of this dialogue,
and he's like, go gotta grow up, Like I can't it.
Speaker 3: It's funny because like those scenes really reminded me of
like like Disney Channel movies or shows that like we
kind of watched as kids. And it's funny because as kids,
you don't really like notice how cringe or like terrible
the writing is or the acting is in some of
those scenes until like maybe you know now, like I
just ran in the get it on my feet and
I'll just see like a video of like, yeah, just
some dialogue. It's like I can't believe that they greenlit
this stuff, or like how the actors were even able
to like pull some of this stuff off with a
straight face.
Speaker 4: It's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And these scenes kind of reminded me of that where
I'm like, man, I wonder if I'm like, I don't know,
six seven years old and I'm watching this, like like
if if I'm just really vibing it, like I am
curious for I don't know, just I guess like people
that have watched this with like their kids, and like
just the overall vibe, like if the parents are enjoying
it with the kids and the kids are really having
a good time, because because it seems like that kind
of demographic honestly is like those I don't know what
age range it is, but like the the like the
Channel twenty two and like the Disney channels. I don't
know why said Channel twenty two for me is Channel
twenty two, the YTVs you know, you know, and just
I don't know, like around the ten like age group
like plus reminds a couple of years. I'm bad with
kids and identifying what kind of age range it is.
But that's just kind of how some of the dialogue feels,
and even with like the adult characters, and I feel
like that's when it's like, oh man, the writing is
really bad.
Speaker 4: But it's also like.
Speaker 3: Not that'stanndouty with like just some of the things that
are happening, I'm not sure, and I think that's why,
like I give some of it a pass because it
just seems like everything is kind of set for that
kind of I don't know age range, and like I
don't know, like I don't know if it's just like
a cheap pass because it's just like an excuse for
like passing it, whereas like I'm sure you can write
really fantastic stories, like with really good writing for all
age groups. So that's where like I don't think this
show is like like hard capped in the sense of
like it could only ever be like a seven and
a half out of ten max. Like I think for
a more child focused show you could still have it
hit like a nine plus on the overall scale. But
for me, it's definitely not anywhere near that range of
a show. But I don't know, like how does the
overall fact of it just being like like kids on an adventure,
Because I know, just even like talking to some people
and like oh yeah, like there's new show out, like
have you seen it, It's like, oh yeah, it kind
of seems like it's more for kids, like not really
for me, like are you. I don't know, like how
does that feel for you, because coming into it, that's
kind of the vibe that I got from the trailers
at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's so new for Star Wars. It's
very much just a completely different side here.
Speaker 3: And especially live action though, right, like because like Clone
Wars has stuff like that, Like definitely later seasons I know,
get like a lot more serious and like mature, I guess,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4: Just live action it feels different, Yeah, and I.
Speaker 1: Mean it really does. I think that they needed to
have a hook, a really really good story kind of
in here to really sway me with this kind of
kid's goonies adventure, and I think that they've definitely kind
of pulled that off with so far, having this world
that's technically a myth to everyone else.
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's a cool little mystery factor.
Speaker 1: It is. And Star Wars has been kind of steering
into this pathway of Okay, there's these planets that you
can't access, but hidden planets, hidden worlds and stuff like that,
and I've really been enjoying that kind of approach. And
so to have a planet like this that's kind of
its own society that's very different from what we've seen
in regular Star Wars culture. Okay, well, now I understand
why they have society like this because it's it's a
planet that's cut off from the New Republic. It is
cut off from the rest of the galaxy. Really, it
has its own kind of hidden barrier where they're not
supposed to. You can't go in and can't go well,
I mean, it's just it's very very peculiar. I'm wondering
like where this planet at at and really fits into
the greater scheme of things. But I think it makes
it a lot more fun that, Yeah, these kids kind
of get lost in space and it's like, hey, we
can't get back home because technically our planet doesn't exist
where we came from. And especially when you like that's exactly.
Speaker 4: No one can help you get home.
Speaker 1: And the fact that they're spending Old Republic credits that
are apparently like very sought after. But so that tells me, Okay,
this planet just kind of it just kind of like
hid itself, or they went into hiding like at the
fall of the Old Republic, which is kind of interesting
or something like that. Or maybe this planet existed during
the time of the Old Republic before the Clone Wars.
They don't even know the Clone Wars happened. I don't know.
There's there's a lot of different things that we could
look at here, and it seems like the planet's really
well kept and well ordered and they don't rely on
outside help to kind of keep themselves sustained, especially because
the ship that they find it's definitely been buried for
a very very long time. So yeah, I don't know
there's enough. There's enough poll there for me with these kids,
for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I feel like I might have been too harsh earlier
by like just saying there is no like enticing thing
to it.
Speaker 4: I just like, that's definitely the question I'm the most excited.
It's really the only question that I'm looking forward to
finding out. Is I guess what Jude Law is? And
really what at Aten is.
Speaker 3: I had to look at your name to remind me
what it was called, So thanks for making that your
nickname today. But like, I just maybe like the in
between stuff is just not really like pulling me on.
Speaker 4: It's just like, okay, yeah, I don't know, I don't know,
but do you.
Speaker 1: Remember in Obi wan Uh, what was that actor's name?
He was in Eternals. He was in Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire.
I can't remember his name.
Speaker 4: I've seen Frozen Empire.
Speaker 1: He was the guy pretending to be a fake Jedi,
basically taking people's money. Oh yeah, city yeah, Oh geez,
he's doing fake force tricks. And that's what I'm kind
of thinking Jude Law is all about. Like the way
that key was moving, it was like, Okay, are the
pirates just setting this up with some scheme to get
to add Aten, to to make the kids talk. Like
the way he was moving that key, It's like, Oh,
it's all just an illusion. I was like, this is
just I don't know about this, But there are bad
non there are force users. Like you've read the Plakas book,
you know, there's force users that were hitting the slots, right,
that's right, make.
Speaker 3: Money, No, that's true that I'm glad you brought that up, actually,
because I just feel like it would be way too
convenient that this is just like a Jedi, and it
would be a lot more interesting if it's just someone
that's able to kind of manipulate the force for their
own personal gain. And I'm I kind of hope for
like a setup like that that Jude Law is just
kind of like like if there is some great treasures, Well,
if there is some great treasure in at Aten, that's
because it's kind of being set up like Atlantis, right,
like it's just a hidden city or Shangrila, I guess
is another example of that. And I'm curious what that
treasure might be. And I would like if Jude law
is just knows about it and and wants to kind
of use these children to take them there so that
you can just take the wealth or whatever from.
Speaker 4: Just to be a total shyster. I want that. I
feel like that'd be interesting.
Speaker 1: Zero percent chance he's a sith.
Speaker 4: He starts, he starts playing us before he was really
uh you know, creeping behind the curtain.
Speaker 3: Uh oh my gosh, that's great.
Speaker 4: Oh you had mentioned something else I wanted to add
on too, but.
Speaker 3: Obi wan fake Jedi, fake Jedi, I can't remember, but uh,
I guess. I yeah, just just mentioning what at Atten
is with the I guess the secrecy about it and
how it's just all kind of like ran By droids,
which which is interesting, and you have these these droids
that fine Whim's father. I should pull up a cast
so I had no other name. Wendel is his name,
the great Wendel Man. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 4: Of Wendell at all. He's just a terrible dad. He's
such an asshole whim.
Speaker 3: But in that specific scene though, he's kind of in
the restrictions restricted zone and those those bots are looking
pretty suss any any, I don't know, like who could
be running at Aten and like controlling these droids? Is
there is there someone of revelance or reverence, relevance, relevance
thank you?
Speaker 1: Uh well, the only person that we have of I
guess the superior position is Ferrin's mother, who was at
the school talking about how oh you take your essay
and then you'll be divided up in your career. Pass
yah yah, YadA. But to see a planet that's kind
of heavily operated by droids is interesting because to me,
and this is maybe my own headcanon, where you have
let's say, on Tada Wayne, where the bartender is like,
you're kind like no droids allow, yeah, yeah, Ada, you
have a galaxy that might kind of despise droids a
little bit, especially Dinjar and Mando. I mean he hates
droids because of the Clone Wars the Clone Wars just
has the droids being this murderous, like slaughtering war faction.
So you have a galaxy that's really not fond of them,
and so here we have a planet that's just super
reliant on them and letting them kind of call shots
and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So I think again, it.
Speaker 1: Just adds to the the fact that Okay, this planet
was outside of the Clone Wars conflict. But the yeah,
the relying on the droids is some of the droids
are familiar because the droids that were driving the trams,
they are We've seen them in other Star Wars mediums,
medias before, other shows and whatnot, So those are familiar.
But everything else, like no protocol droids, nothing else that
I could really pinpoint that was very familiar, and just
a lot of like everything that they had going on
was and so this is how do I word this.
They were there was a lot of Jedi talk and
a lot of Jedi mentioned, and I think that was
two things because and this is kind of detracting from
the droids a little bit. That was to kind of
help us cement the ideas the viewer that Okay, here's
Jude Law using the force. You need to think that
he's a Jedi, and I think that all this subliminal
messaging that was kind of put into these first two
episodes was to kind of steer us into thinking that
when we see him, but we're not the Ga, We're
something a little bit beyond that, but we're beyond that.
Now you have these files and everything that Wim is
looking into. That's just it's weird because some of the
stuff I was trying to look at and you can't,
I can't translate what the text says. But there's some
of the photos where you see a Jedi holding a
green lightsaber what looks like a rank Or. I'm like, okay, well,
this looks like like a return of the Jedi sequence
here with Luke and the rank Or. You see a
few other things that are kind of similar too, But
at its core, you see a lot of stuff that's
just Jedi doing different ceremonies, different artworks, different things like that.
I'm thinking, Okay, the Empire that this would not be allowed.
So again another fact that, Okay, this planet has been
existing on its own, and I think that this planet
is just kind of having a higher connection to the
High Republic because it's it was detached and not available
to the Empire. Like if they were talking about Jedi
and had all this researchable documentation on Jedi and their religion,
God my freaking throat, then I think that the Empire
would have came in there and squashed it. So it's
again another thing just to see to this point is
kind of standing out on its own because it does
have access to Jedi. They know about Jedi temples, they
know about like the Jedi culture, they know about the Force,
they know all of the stuff, whereas no one would
even whisper the Force afterwards because you got inquisitors coming
down on you, just ready to execute you.
Speaker 3: Right, So it's interesting even like how they would have
gotten a lot of the details of that if they
are so isolated, right, like no ships really in or
out of the planet, which I don't really know how
they are able to achieve that super easily. But and
they just yeah, just talk about the uh, because they
don't even talk about like going into space. It's just
what is it the barricade, Like went out past the barricade,
that's against the law.
Speaker 4: Whatever the robots countered.
Speaker 3: With, And I don't know, like it almost seems like
a Truman Show type situation where it's just like this
is like the world that people are living in and
then stay in the barricade zone. But I mean the
children got out pretty easily, so definitely feels like a planet.
But it just it seems like a really hard task
to stay isolated like that, even well, especially after the
Empire takes over, right, because they would have been just
kind of taken over the whole galaxy one, one little
plane at a time, and I'm curious how they're able
to stay Yeah, just so hidden.
Speaker 1: So this is kind of like detouring over more with
the With the intro of this episode, we get obviously
it's jewde Law wearing a mask and a helmet and
they were trying to hide that, but he was he's
the former.
Speaker 4: I see you.
Speaker 1: He was the former leader of this crew. And then
he is like, oh, we got credits in this vault
and that was clearly not the case. But what's interesting
here is how spot on this was like a new Hope.
Did you catch that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Definitely, I like the.
Speaker 3: I guess docking whatever you would call it, which is
like the clause coming in It actually felt like very
Orcish in a weird way. Like very middle earthen the
way that you know Helm's deep. They have like those
big ladders that go up with the claws. It was
a very similar space type representation of that where it
just comes in through the whole the breach of the
hole there. But definitely the opening felt very very similar
with even just like the music, like there's no talking really,
it's just a lot of like people moving and then
the blasters come out and then the one alien gets
it right in the eye, which what a tough son
of a gun.
Speaker 4: Just gets right back at it.
Speaker 3: Especially, it just feels like anytime anyone gets hit by
a blaster, it's just like a one shot kill.
Speaker 4: It just it just like paralyzes them.
Speaker 3: But that guy just took a right in the eye
and then like focused with the other eye and then
killed his attacker.
Speaker 4: Very very impressive part of me. Impressive, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: And when you get past like the boarding sequence, and
they start like they're they're holding up the one new
Republic officer and they're talking to him and like what
does he say. He's like, we're like a cargo ship
on a something something missioned to so and so and so,
and then he's like if you're a cargo ship, then
where da And it's very much the same conversation reskinned
from a New Hope, where like, oh, if you're an ambassadorship,
where's the ambassador? No, So a lot of the similarities there.
Speaker 4: I like how he was like to it's like this
ship is under the protection of the Rebel Alliance or
not the Rebel Alliance, what was it the New repub Yeah,
he's like the man new piratescum by Kite those ships.
It's like, oh my god, this guy is ballsy. It's
like getting strangled.
Speaker 3: I order you after they've already like breached the hole
and murdered everyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone, And like if they leave, like you're fucked.
There's a massive hole in the side of your ship,
like you are just yeah.
Speaker 3: No. I found that sequence kind of funny, but it
was still like good nonetheless, like the setup of kind
of all the action that was going on, Yeah, all
the blaster fire and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely had no pull no no jeezez. But
that was that was pretty cool sequence. My se teen
was going livid because but when I turned it on Madison,
she knew it was coming in mass and it's like, oh,
you know, maybe we should skip this or mute it,
Like I don't know if this is gonna be kit friendly.
I'm like, this is a kid's show. It's gonna be fine.
And oh yeah, chill the's cocksuckers. But that was probably
the only most like violent part of the whole show
so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, what what is the episode two when they
go to the pirate world, Like I don't know, like
like it's like mature for like youth mature, I would say.
And I think that's something that I was kind of
curious about, is like how far the show is going
to go like in that direction of just I don't know,
violence or like mature subject matters for lack of a
better term. And I'm yeah, I'm curious if any of
that is really going to change with Jude Law in
the mix, just just because we haven't had like any
adult characters really like like on these adventures so far
other than just like countering I guess our heroes we
got the what is the s M thirty three?
Speaker 1: Is that the I think you got it? You got it?
Speaker 3: Which I really really love. I love like the pirate aesthetic.
You know, I'm big big Pirates of the Caribbean fan
Shane are going through those movies right now. And I
liked how we have like a pirate droid with he's
got like the one eye as if it's an eyepatch,
and he's just I don't know, he just seems like
an old like brawler, especially when he comes out arms
is swinging on on that pirate planet.
Speaker 4: But I like that character.
Speaker 3: And but yeah, no, I'm just curious maybe what the
extent of violence the show really have. But I think
I think you're pretty dead on of of of your
sessisment of like the beginning section being the most intense
maybe or like mature in that way of violence. And
I don't think it'll really go beyond that at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think it'll kind of stay stay
in that kind of realm. I mean, even at the
bar on the I can't remember the name of that planet,
the asteroid, the pirate kind of facility, it got a
little bit violent, kind of like when the when s M.
Thirty three was fighting more so, but nothing super crazy. Yeah, yeah,
it depends where we get to in the final episode.
And yeah, what Jude Law is really capable of. Do
you think we're gonna see a lightsaber.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, really, yeah, I think we'll see a lightsaber.
I don't think Jude Law is a Jedi to the
like classical sense I guess of the word. I don't
know if there's another sense of the word in this
stage of the universe of Star Wars, but I think
I think lightsabers can pop up once in a while,
and especially somewhere like at Aten, right like, if there's
already it's it's not a Jedi ship, right like, it's
it seems like it's a pirate for sure, if we
have sm thirty three on there and his previous owner
was a pirate.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's just just a guess, though I don't really have
anything really signifying that that's a good guess.
Speaker 1: I'm it depends on how at Aton kind of fits
into the thing, the whole thing for me, and if
there are force users there and whatnot, and just yeah,
I'm just kind of unsure. I'm unsure if we'll see
a lightsaber in here. I mean, yeah, I'll leave it
at that. The tie in to the timeline that I
wanted to highlight. So do you remember Amando season three?
I can't remember his name, but he's the guy with
like the pale white skin. He's an alien he was
working for.
Speaker 2: I'm just picturing the alien on what was Itaba?
Speaker 5: No good, eating's young Jedi unless you brought Ditch with
you that guy.
Speaker 4: Is that the guy? Well, it's like we're grievous fights.
Is that the planet?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't remember the quote, but I'm sure you
did it.
Speaker 1: Flawlessly, different different aliens. This is this guy. He's Gory
and Shard's henchmen in Mendo season three, and Gordon Shark
was the green swamp monster and he was the guy
on the streets with He has like a couple of
points on the sides of his face and yeah, kind
of like tangy, pale ish skin. I can't remember his name,
but he ends up escaping and he is present here,
So okay, I was gonna say he looked he looked
familiar actually, so there you go. Yeah, he's jumped Cruise.
So now he's working from Gorey and Shard to uh Wolfman,
which I wish this species has appeared in other Star
Wars mediums. I'm pretty sure was in a New Hope.
I actually saw all these creatures. Actually, I'm gonna pullt
a picture of that just so you can see. Yeah,
the Wolfman's absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 3: Yeah really, uh, I think niche species in the uh
in the Star Wars universe, you don't see them often.
Speaker 1: No, you really don't. I'm pretty sure it's only really
in a New Hope.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally, the bar everything. Oh that's terrifying. I
like that image.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: No, he's a cool looking, cool looking dude, looks like
a bad motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the strong points that the
show has too, is just the variety of aliens, and
I think that's something that people really crave and want
in other in Star Wars and oh like ya, we
need aliens, and this show delivers on it.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping we see some uh, some twilights.
Speaker 1: Like dancing.
Speaker 3: Let's just go to the clubs, take these children.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know a place.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's funny though with SM thirty three.
As soon as he spoke, like, I pulled up IMDb,
what's the Chap's name? Nick Frost is the voice of
SM thirty three. When he was speaking, though, I swear
I could hear our bad Boy Boba Tomorrow Morrison. I'm like, man,
this guy is just fucking in all of these Disney,
these Disney Star Wars projects. They can't get rid of them.
But it was not him, but it's a very similar voice.
I guess just the pirate type accent that he was
going off with.
Speaker 1: That's funny. I did not detect any any Morrison.
Speaker 4: No, I just haunts my mind.
Speaker 1: This Pearly Whites. I did not detect Nick Frost either.
That's actually really cool that he's in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what else was I gonna say? Oh yeah, going
back to episode one, and uh, Whim's just god awful.
Father just just no time for this this child. I
the scene when Wim has like a hard day, you know,
hard day at school. His mom's just gone, I'm assuming dead,
it seems like that's the case. And his dad's just
so tired and working all the time, no time for
his poor boy.
Speaker 4: He's like, dad, can you read me a bedtime story?
Like mom used to? No, I gotta work.
Speaker 3: Go shuts the door, and he's just like expecting so
much from poor little Whim, like you're gonna get one
hundred percent on this test, And I just expect you
to have my job where I'm working all the time
and have no fucking time for my my boy.
Speaker 4: And even just.
Speaker 3: The actor, the way that he was like pulling off
some of these lines, he just felt like a robot, Like, I,
I don't know if that's gonna be well, it doesn't
seem like it's gonna be something that's gonna be revealed
that he is just an android the whole time. But
he very much feels very robotic, like in some of
the deliveries that he's spitting off. And yeah, I'm not
a fan of this character at all. And I don't
even blame Whim for running off. Maybe I blame him
for kidnapping like his friends and that have like a
healthy relationship with his with their families, like poor little
uh what's his name, Neil, Neil with the with the
the trunk, like he like he's so just taken from
his family and is he seems like he has a nice,
healthy relationship with his family, and his family's just so
worried about him and his siblings and everything.
Speaker 4: And Wim is like, fuck it, we're just going off
into space. And uh, but.
Speaker 3: In terms of escaping his life, I mean he was
very distracted in school and.
Speaker 4: Just wanted to become a Jedi. And I don't know,
his dad wasn't having it, like aren't aren't you too
old for for bedtime stories? Yes, poor little Wim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a That was a dick move, especially
because you know, Wim walks home when he sees Neil's
family just like welcome back, welcome back. I love you, dad, I.
Speaker 4: Love your son. Wim doesn't get the lunch money for
the week, use it?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's the wise. You just reminded me of something,
and I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Les tweets or something.
Speaker 1: God. Yeah, so do you remember when Wim shows up
at Neil's house and like the kids are watching some stuff.
You remember you know what that was? You remember the
Christmas Holiday Special? Oh?
Speaker 4: I didn't know that's what that was. I thought it
was weird as fuck's that is so funny.
Speaker 1: Wow, I forgot about stretch stretching. As soon as I
saw it, I was like, oh my god, yeah, that's
where like the weird wookies are just looking at this
crazy shit. What a fucking weird so on Star Wars, Like,
oh my god.
Speaker 3: It's like a fever dream that whole movie For me,
I really don't remember anything of it, but uh yeah,
I know, just finishing off my thoughts on the I
guess just the school in general that they're going to,
because they kind of set like started episode one that way.
That's where I was like, ah, this, yeah, I'm not
gonna like this. So this is just like a whole
show about this kid in school. And it just feels
like a very earth like type of just sitcom right,
like like they're just kind of in like a school setting.
Like it just seems like a show that we would have,
not very Star Wars e. So I am glad that
we distance ourselves from from that Earth. And I don't
really mind the idea of their being like an earth
like planet out there if there is just like infinite galaxies.
But I think I think it was it was still
just kind of hard to pal it, like initially, just
all the similarities, like even Whim's dad like, oh, I'm
going to work now, like I'll talk to you later,
and it's just I don't know, it seemed very not
Star Wars y. I think another thing though that maybe
helps it now is is knowing how different at Atan
is and and it being kind of this like Shangri.
Speaker 4: La type situation.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's really what they're making it
out to be, but it's just like an isolated thing
that no one really knows about. So I think it's
kind of fun if that's like the only situation that
you have in Earth like type similarity planet. I don't know,
how do you feel about that.
Speaker 1: There's so much about the Higher Republic that I just
don't know about if this planet really is kind of
like just a descendant of that kind of society. Well
that the High Republic has just aged so differently, And
if you have a planet that's become isolate and not
allowed to kind of grow with the technology and the
times of other planets and the galaxy as a whole,
then I can let it slide. And then again, this
being a planet isolated and locked away from rest of
the galaxy kind of being like this, I can I
can adapt to kind of go along with that a
little bit more. Yeah, yeah, but it just depends how
they kind of explain it.
Speaker 3: Totally agreed, agreed, So yeah, we already talked about. Yeah, whim,
I don't know when when he's okay, I feel like
he's He's definitely a character that I imagine is gonna
be doing some growing up throughout the show, so I'll
give his little wininess a pass for now.
Speaker 4: I did like the actual like setup.
Speaker 3: I think of like Wim and Fern almost as like
enemies right where they're like, especially when they like go
to the dig site and they're all like, oh, this
is mine or whatever the hell like they they call
it claims, that's what it was. And then and then
yeah they're digging. It's like stupid girls. Like once we
get in, we're gonna we're gonna say claims. He's to
the inside. They're like, oh yeah, stupid girls. And this
the girls are just watching them dig. It's like stupid boys.
I actually found that kind of funny, just that kind
of dynamic.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I I think.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's a pretty good crew.
I like, what's her name, kay b is that the
lady with the glasses. I think her just overall like
aesthetic is kind of cool with the goggles there, and
she's kind of like a techy type character. I like
when they go into the pirate market sort of thing
and they're just seeing like everything, and she's seeing like
the guy like selling like defense droids or whatever the
hell it is.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just just that type of stuff.
I really did like.
Speaker 3: And although I already said like I didn't love all
like the suburban aspects to it, I did really like
the overall world building of what the show brought of.
I don't know, just like dynamics, I guess of what
it's like when you're not just Jedi versus Sith or
like you know, like clone troopers or Stormtrooper like like
stuff like that, like or it just feels like something
else in the universe, and more so when they go
to the pirate world, I guess because it's it's not
so much the suburbanness. It's just a grimy pirate planet.
I will say, though I laughed so hard. When they're
really nice, well supposedly very nice lady that grabs Fern
and KB, it's like are you kids?
Speaker 4: Like what are you doing here?
Speaker 3: Like like we gotta get you on a transport out
of here, and where do you live?
Speaker 4: And they're like at Aten and she's like no, seriously,
where are you from?
Speaker 3: And like right away it's just like come on, man,
like we're in star Wars, like there's probably infinite galaxies
and planets that people live on. Are you like she
really just knows every planet in existence, Like, no, that's
not a real one at atton, Like, are you kidding me? Well,
of course, later on they kind of explained that it's
kind of this mysterious place that is seemingly fictitious. But
in that moment, I just laughed so hard because her
her face was just like, no.
Speaker 4: That's not a real planet, like tell me, tell me
another one, tell me another name of a planet.
Speaker 3: And it was just super super corny in my mind.
But yeah, I'm getting off a little tangent there, No, no,
I digress, but uh yeah, no, I I did like
the overall just I don't know, exploring that planet and
seeing the different aliens that we kind of already covered.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that was pretty cool. That was it was.
It was a neat little world there when they're ordering
up the food and just the bartender and whatnot, and
so just the I got to kick out of the
little pilot alien guy when they have these kind of
like little ships that dock to your main ship and
then you board it, then it takes you back to
like the main asteroid. That was pretty cool. But yeah,
I was just doing a little bit of a quick
google here, and I guess SM thirty three is a
play on the first mate sme from Peter Pan because
oh interesting, where did I just see that? Because oh,
my goodness, where is it? Where is it? There is
a certain individual that was responsible for doing Peter Pan
and Wendy.
Speaker 4: What's his name in Peter Pan?
Speaker 1: Mister SMI So, yeah, Skeleton SM.
Speaker 3: Thirty three basically is like smee. So it would be
like shmi.
Speaker 1: That's how you spell it. Yeah, that's exactly it. I
guess the director of episode two Helm Disney's Peter Pan
and Wendy, which also had Jude Law in it. So
there's the tie in there.
Speaker 4: Same universe, same canon.
Speaker 1: Ah, please no, not with that movie. Good lord, nice.
I have another thing here too, And again, I know
you aren't to affiliated with the Higher Republic stuff. Back
in the Higher Public era, there was a chance a
Supreme Chancellor called Lina So and so Lena So basically
has multiple projects that she calls the great works that
will benefit the galaxy. And I guess that is similar
phrasing that they were using in this episode where the
people are like, oh, the great works, you know, our
planets and YadA, YadA, YadA. So I think again people
seem to be highlighting the fact too that wow, this
planet seems pretty well informed on the Jedi, while the
rest of the galaxy kind of took Jedi as being
myths and whatnot for a long period of time.
Speaker 2: So, uh, yeah, there you go, Jusy juicy. What was
I gonna say?
Speaker 3: The Oh, just any other characters that we didn't really
talk about. It's excited to see more Jude Law. I
think he's going to be great. Jude Law is always great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm big on the Jude Law. I love Jude Law.
Speaker 4: Neil's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. Yeah, I can't think of any
other characters. I just hope that s M. Thirty three
definitely gets repaired and it's back at it because i'd
like to I think to have a little bit more
of him.
Speaker 3: I think I think he's I think he'll be I
think he'll be back. We got some uh some smart
kids on crew, the Techno Techno kid, Techno whiz whatever,
the whiz kid whatever that one characters from Excellent whiz.
Speaker 4: Kid, thank you.
Speaker 1: The one with the glasses, what like the whiz kid
one of the glasses or.
Speaker 3: I was just saying we had some I was I
was just saying weird words. I was saying, we got
whiz kids on the crew.
Speaker 1: Oh whiz kids kid, I got it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I apologize.
Speaker 3: What's the confusion? I think I've said everything I need
to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we covered it again. There's there's a
lot more that they kind of got to unveil.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I just remembered. What do you think
happened to that initial like robbery when he when he
pops in and there's just one coin? Is that like
significant at all? Is there a joker, like a Dark
Knight style just robbing these.
Speaker 1: Vaults and not about credits, leaving power.
Speaker 4: Just leaving one credit.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It just seemed like something of like, oh, this is
going to be a setup for something, but I don't know,
or is it just they're transporting one fucking token.
Speaker 1: The way Jude Law was talking there was it sounded
like like he kind of took over this crew or
something like that. I don't know. I feel like it
wouldn't make sense for another ship to attack and another
group of pirates to attack, and like do this, will
set up and leave when Credit left in the vault
get there first before Jude Law's crew does, just to
frame Jude Law. But I feel like whatever this was,
it ah, it's either him being a poor liner and
a poor executionist, which I hope not. I hope he's not.
I wanted to be charismatic and also be able to
deliver on that charisma and actually be a you know,
like a cool gun slinger four season kind of guy.
I don't want it to be him, just like to
Jack Sparrowy. Yeah, I don't need a Jack Sparrow Law.
Speaker 3: I very I very much agree, and I don't want plagas.
I don't want to do plegas either.
Speaker 1: No no, no, definitely not.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think yeah, that that does it. So we'll
be back next week with more Skeleton crews.
Speaker 4: Is it Monday next week? Is it?
Speaker 1: No? Thank you for bringing that up. Yes, that was
just Monday for the release of these first two episodes
going back to Tuesday, and I'm pretty sure they're just
sticking with the six PM, which is absolutely wonderful. I
love it. That is very nice for us, because it's like,
I mean, it's gonna be tricky to see how these
episodes do moving forward, but I think that they're probably
going to be doing thirty minutes, roughly thirty five minutes.
You had a forty minute and then a thirty one minute.
Speaker 3: Imagine like the finale would probably be like a forty
plus minute that would be underwhelmed if it's you open
up that finale is twenty nine minutes. But I guess
we'll see how the show's going by then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, then, thank you ladies and gentlemen
for tuning in. We're back later this week and we'll
see you in the search bar.
Speaker 4: Have a good one and forced to be with you always.