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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome to the Scouter Vision where we talk all

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<v Speaker 1>things dragon Ball. I'm your house Angela and I'm Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're gonna talk about what was the better

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<v Speaker 1>sequel than Dragon Ball Z?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Dragon Ball GZ or Dragon Ball Super. There's

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<v Speaker 2>two ways you can go with this, and both are good,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're gonna talk about what we think is better.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's hop in the sampots and let's start the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen. We're back with a new episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Scouter Vision, and I'm so excited to get into this one.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a topic that's very polarizing. I see all

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<v Speaker 2>over social media, all over YouTube, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are discussing what was the better sequel to Dragon Ball Z?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Dragon Ball GT or Dragon Ball Super. But

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<v Speaker 2>before we get into that, Angela, where can they find

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<v Speaker 1>You can find us on antiktok at Scouter adapt Vision Pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so right off, the bad GT are super go?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Okay, Well, since you put me on the spot,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to say super Why I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it just went a little better with

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<v Speaker 1>the story after Z because I don't know, it starts

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<v Speaker 1>like right after as opposed to GT, where it starts

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<v Speaker 1>like ten years later, because there's like a huge ass gap.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a gap in Super too, it's about like three

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<v Speaker 2>years yeah, but definitely less of a gap in Super

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<v Speaker 2>than GT. And I don't know. So the way I

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<v Speaker 2>see it is you could break this down into a

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<v Speaker 2>couple different categories. Right, story is obviously one production is

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<v Speaker 2>definitely one too, because I feel that GT's production is

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<v Speaker 2>hand in hand with dragon Ball Z. So GT goes

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<v Speaker 2>right after I mean GT goes right after dragon Ball Z.

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<v Speaker 2>It fits in with you. If you watch GT, it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like you're watching dragon Ball Z, but just with

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<v Speaker 2>the darker tone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have to agree with that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Super I do feel had a better story. But

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing I did not like about Dragon Ball

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<v Speaker 2>Super was if you watched the Battle of Gods and

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<v Speaker 2>if you watch Resurrection F you basically had to rewatch

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<v Speaker 2>those shows in episodic form because it starts out by

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<v Speaker 2>retelling the movies, where GT starts out with original content.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though it starts out whack. Everyone knows the freaking

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<v Speaker 2>first arc of GT is whack.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of sit there that.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, everybody Cartoon Network new because Cartoon Network they cut

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<v Speaker 2>that whole arc out and start with the Baby arc

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<v Speaker 2>and call those the last the lost episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>The lost episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>But everyone knows that it starts out whack. But how

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<v Speaker 2>good does Superstar? It doesn't start out good. Super You

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<v Speaker 2>have to sit through about thirty episodes of retelling the

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<v Speaker 2>movies of Resurrection F and Battle of Gods. So I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like when it comes to the start of both series,

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<v Speaker 2>you had to skip if you want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the good shit anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, if you want to skip like the first

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<v Speaker 1>whatever amount of episodes it is, you can't just watch

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<v Speaker 1>Battle of Gods and then Resurrection F first.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially if you think about Battle of God's and Resurrection

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<v Speaker 2>F having better animation. That was another thing. So GT's

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<v Speaker 2>animation was really good. It was, like I said, on

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<v Speaker 2>par with Dragonball Z, where the animation style for Super

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really get cooking into probably the Goku Black arc,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was because they were trying to keep up

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<v Speaker 2>with the manga. Yeah, and they were rushing out episodes

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<v Speaker 2>of the anime because the mango was still fresh and

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<v Speaker 2>coming out. I believe like they had about maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>month to animate everything that they're seeing in the manga,

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<v Speaker 2>and because of that, it was a rush job for

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<v Speaker 2>the first couple arcs of Super. That's why you get

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<v Speaker 2>really weird, you know, far shots of Beers where he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like an easter bunny. You get very smudgy faced

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<v Speaker 2>Goku where it looks like it was drawn by a

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<v Speaker 2>three year old. And it wasn't until like the Goku

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<v Speaker 2>Black arc, it wasn't until I would even say Super

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<v Speaker 2>animation didn't really get good until the Tournament of Power.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when it was like, oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 1>Like even though those things weren't necessarily good, I still

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<v Speaker 1>like the animation that it had, like you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>like the focus points of it, and like the forward shot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I agree, but when it comes to production,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving it to GT. GT did not have that

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<v Speaker 2>problem from the start, and that was because GT was

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<v Speaker 2>its own breakaway story. Even though it was the continuation

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<v Speaker 2>of Dragon Ball Z. GT did not have a manga,

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<v Speaker 2>so they didn't have to reanimate some of the things

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<v Speaker 2>from the manga. What it was was they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to just animate right off the bat where Super was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to animate from the manga, and the Mango is

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<v Speaker 2>still fresh and new. If you go all the way

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<v Speaker 2>back to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. When they

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<v Speaker 2>were animating these scenes from the manga, the Mango already

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<v Speaker 2>been out for ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had some time.

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<v Speaker 2>They had time to get it. We're here. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the next the next part of the Goku Black arc

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<v Speaker 2>is being animated, and the manga comes out in a week,

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<v Speaker 2>so we got to make sure we animated right away

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<v Speaker 2>because we had to put out an episode. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was a rush job. The start of Super was a

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<v Speaker 2>rush job, and that's where I feel like Super kinda

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<v Speaker 2>misses me. But so both start out really really bad

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, GT like, as far as that animation goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty consistent with Z, like it's slightly similar, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also like a little better at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>My only thing is some characters have bigger heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah on their bodies, like the balloon heads.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I understand that was probably the style, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just looks off, especially if it's not everyone. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you compare like like chi Chi, Yeah, if you compare

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<v Speaker 1>her to Goku, Goku looks normal. But Chee Chee's head

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<v Speaker 1>looks way too big.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple of heads look pretty big. Also, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that I noticed that mister Satan said was really

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<v Speaker 2>big at times where it was like massive.

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<v Speaker 1>His was the worst. It was like really big.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly think that if I'm going to just get

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'll give an answer right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Super is the better show. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that dragon Ball GT may be a better sequel

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<v Speaker 2>to dragon Ball Z. And I might explain why right

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of dragon Ball Z. If you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>we ended with the tournament ten years later, we ended

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<v Speaker 2>with the introduction of Ub, and we end dragon Ball

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<v Speaker 2>Z with Goku going off to train Ub. The start

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<v Speaker 2>of dragon Ball GT is Goku training Ube. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>better sequel where basically dragon Ball Z ends ten years

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<v Speaker 2>after the fight with Majimbu and where Superstars you have

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<v Speaker 2>to go backwards and talk about what happened within those

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<v Speaker 2>ten years, where in dragon Ball Z is said that

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<v Speaker 2>those ten years were ten years a piece. But it

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<v Speaker 2>really wasn't ten years a piece, was it. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>we know about Dragon Ball Dima and Dragon Ball Super.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, you have to forget about

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<v Speaker 2>everything that happened at the end of dragon Ball Z

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<v Speaker 2>with Goku going off to train ub If you want

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<v Speaker 2>Super to make sense, if you go with GT, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just going off of what we saw at the end

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<v Speaker 2>and the end of Dragon Ball Z. Remember, we see

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<v Speaker 2>a pan, we see Ube, and we don't get that

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<v Speaker 2>right away in Super because we have to go backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we're talking about a sequel, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>GT plays off of what we saw at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of dragon Ball Z. If you want to talk about Super,

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<v Speaker 2>then it would have been better if you ended Dragon

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<v Speaker 2>Ball Z with the Majubu saga instead of going off

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<v Speaker 2>and saying this is what happens ten years later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was gonna say, if you like, remove that

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<v Speaker 1>last bit of dragon Ball Z where it shows like

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<v Speaker 1>the ten years later thing, I think Super would work

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<v Speaker 1>out pretty well, honestly in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, And you know Super is canon that

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<v Speaker 2>that plays another role. Yeah, because if you say that

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<v Speaker 2>GT's not Cannon and Super's Cannon, then that would mean

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<v Speaker 2>that the definitive sequel to dragon Ball Z is Dragon

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<v Speaker 2>Ball Super. Anyway, Yeah, but I honestly think that when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to Dragon Ball Super Dragon Ball Super in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, is the better show, better stories, better characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you compare the characters, I much rather bearis

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<v Speaker 2>Wheeze over anybody in GT. I like the villains, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was a big fan of Baby Baby Vegeta, and

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<v Speaker 2>I liked the whole story of Baby and I liked

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Super seventeen was pretty cool but lasted only

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<v Speaker 2>like three episodes. That's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like the build up was like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot longer than like, you know, him being in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he died quick. But if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the character development of GC, the one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>do like is you had other characters getting the shine

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<v Speaker 2>you had gotten had his own little storyline with being

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<v Speaker 2>a ladies man, Trunks who is now the CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>Capsule Corp. But doesn't like the job, Vegeta who has

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<v Speaker 2>domesticated and became a regular father, but now he hates

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<v Speaker 2>himself because Kakara keeps getting stronger, and where's his saying pride.

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<v Speaker 2>You have Pan who is introduced and you see her

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<v Speaker 2>grow up. You have all these. You have Ub who

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<v Speaker 2>we get to see and Ub and Majen Boo fuse

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<v Speaker 2>and create majub and you see all these characters, storylines

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<v Speaker 2>and development, where for Super, the one thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>liked was also the one thing that I didn't like,

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<v Speaker 2>which was very contradicting. But I liked that there was

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<v Speaker 2>more of an emphasis on Gokun Vegeta, But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that the emphasis on Gokun Vegeta meant that there

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<v Speaker 2>was no emphasis on anybody else. Finishing Dragon Ball Z,

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<v Speaker 2>we had got Tanks, we don't get got tanks, and

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<v Speaker 2>Dragon Ball Super we had Gohan has a child, and

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<v Speaker 2>Gohan is you know, goes from scholar to the man

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<v Speaker 2>who helped defeat Majimboo, and there's no development for Gohan,

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<v Speaker 2>like we just forgot about everybody else. It became the

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<v Speaker 2>Goku and Vegeta show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I have to agree because there's more

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<v Speaker 1>Seine than other characters in Dragon Ball GT as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to Super, because Dragon Ball Super kind of continued along

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<v Speaker 1>with Z where it kind of put more of the

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<v Speaker 1>focus on Goku and Vegeta. I don't know, like if

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<v Speaker 1>the whole first arc did not exist in GT, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would have went a lot better because starting

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<v Speaker 1>with the Baby saga would have been like a better

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<v Speaker 1>start to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I feel like they didn't have an identity,

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<v Speaker 2>nor did they know what they were doing with the show.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted to give you the event, the adventure, the

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<v Speaker 2>adventure style of Dragon Ball, and people didn't want that.

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<v Speaker 2>People didn't want to go back. People want the action

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<v Speaker 2>of dragon Ball Z. So they quickly, you know, pivoted

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<v Speaker 2>and gave us the action of dragon Ball Z with

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<v Speaker 2>the Baby arc. But they should have just started with that,

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<v Speaker 2>because if it's a sequel to Dragon Ball Z, why

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<v Speaker 2>are we going back to the style of Dragon Ball.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a way you could do it where it works,

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<v Speaker 2>where you had the adventures of them going through the

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<v Speaker 2>Demon Realm and then you had also at the end

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy fight scenes. Yea, like Dragon Ball Z and

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<v Speaker 2>Dragon Ball Super. But it's like there was no identity

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<v Speaker 2>for GT. You went too much on the adventure side

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<v Speaker 2>and forgot to put in, you know, some cool fight scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there was no build up until like episode

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six when we saw Doctor Meu and you know Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird because it seemed like they did a

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<v Speaker 1>It just like jumped to it as opposed to just

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas for Super you got action right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt like Dragon Ball Z because you got action

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<v Speaker 2>in your race saw. So if you, like I said, said,

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<v Speaker 2>the movies Battle of Gods and if you saw Resurrection

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<v Speaker 2>f then watching those two there's little changes like that

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, Malmo's birthday being at Capsule Corp. Her

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<v Speaker 2>birthday was on a cruise ship and that was how

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<v Speaker 2>you know beers came to the cruise ship and they

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<v Speaker 2>fought in the sky where I don't care about those

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<v Speaker 2>little changes. I still know the Super saying God is Goku.

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<v Speaker 2>I still know that you need five sayings with pure

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<v Speaker 2>hearts to come together. You still know that Bears is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to destroy Earth. He's going to take Goku

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<v Speaker 2>under his wing pretty much. You still know Freezer comes

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<v Speaker 2>back and he has a new Golden form. So the

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<v Speaker 2>first like thirty episodes of Super, you don't really need

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<v Speaker 2>to watch if you saw those movies. And if there's

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<v Speaker 2>any show that starts out with an arc that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to watch, that's a horrible way to start out.

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<v Speaker 2>There's you know, a first impression is everything, and if

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<v Speaker 2>your first impression is you could skip this. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>both shows I think failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, both of them. It's like the first like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five thirty episodes. It's like I could have gone without that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, we also can't say everyone has seen

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<v Speaker 1>those Battle Gods and Resurrection f so maybe they just

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm pretty sure majority of the people saw

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<v Speaker 1>the movies too.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. And I also say the thing that GT

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<v Speaker 2>arc to start out with, it was a new arc.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fresh arc and people didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where they have the upper hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's talk about the endings. For Dragon Ball GT

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<v Speaker 2>we end with the Shadow Dragons arc and Omega Chenron,

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<v Speaker 2>of Power m H, which had the better ending.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like no offense to GT. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>little I don't know, it was a little feeling to

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<v Speaker 1>me personally, but that's that's probably a me thing. But personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Tournament of Power. That was like my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>I've come on this podcast and I said numerous times

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<v Speaker 2>that the Tournament of Power is probably one of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest things I've seen in dragon Ball. It was really

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<v Speaker 2>cool to see eighty fighters a battle royal style, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially a wrestling fan like me, I love that battle

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<v Speaker 2>royal style, everyone going at it at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a lot at Steak. There's a mistake

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<v Speaker 2>in GT as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But even more so in Super because your whole universe

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<v Speaker 2>I do like the fact that the dragon Balls played

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<v Speaker 2>a role at the end of Super, at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of GT, just because we have now at that point

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<v Speaker 2>three different series where we saw the dragon Balls be

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely abused by Power right and in GT, dragon Ball Z,

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<v Speaker 2>and Dragon Ball those dragon balls have been used for

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<v Speaker 2>wiches that are good, which is at bad and they've

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<v Speaker 2>been overused. So I like that the final arc in

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<v Speaker 2>at the time in dragon Ball history was centered around

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<v Speaker 2>the dragon Balls. Yeah, I mean it's called dragon Ball, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was cool, but I don't know, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that were built up to that

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like did not really make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Like the first couple of shadow Dragons, It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like Omega Chenron was awesome, Yeah, but we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>start with Omega Chenanron. We started out with the goofy ass,

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<v Speaker 2>badass dragon. But then like the whole show, we're waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for super saying for Vegeta, Super Saying for Vegeta, And

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is, I understand how Goku became super saying

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<v Speaker 2>for It was from the bloods Waves, right, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was weird to me that Vegeta did not want to

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<v Speaker 2>get to that transformation on his own, you know, accord.

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird to me because Vegeta always wants to outpower,

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<v Speaker 2>out Will and outdo Cacarat and not take the easy

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<v Speaker 2>way out. Where in Super in Dragon Ball GT, I

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<v Speaker 2>should say it's Boma who creates a bloodswege machine that

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<v Speaker 2>gives Vegeta the chance to go super Saying four. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I didn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>You kept you kept eating the same thing, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, but it's a different story.

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<v Speaker 2>It took away from the Vegeta we all know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Vegeta who in the past and Dragon Ball Z. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>here's an example, dragon Ball Z, Vegeta comes out of

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<v Speaker 2>he had, He's super Vegta, right, and he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>test out that new power. Right, look at Daima. He

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<v Speaker 2>and the first thing he does is wants to test

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In dragon Ball GT, he becomes Super Saiying four, and

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing he says, besides you know, before he

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<v Speaker 2>even wants to test out his new power as a

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<v Speaker 2>super saying, is let's fuse. This is Vegeta who hates

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<v Speaker 2>fusing with Kakarat.

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<v Speaker 1>He always he always makes like a big deal about it,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like the grossest thing in the world, Like

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<v Speaker 1>regardless whether it's the Patara earrings or the Fusion dance.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he hates it. But before we even see what

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<v Speaker 2>a super saying for Vegeta could do, the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to do is fuse with Gocoo. Definitely goes

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<v Speaker 2>away from the Vegeta, we know, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that's where GTT really starts to Like miss me, they

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<v Speaker 2>took the stories of these characters and characters that are

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<v Speaker 2>established and their personality traits that are established and went

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite route with it. I can understand progression, like

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<v Speaker 2>we saw Vegeta progress. He came here to destroy Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>and then by the end of Dragon Ball Z he's

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<v Speaker 2>saving Earth and he's omitting that Goku is the strongest, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's good storyline progression. Not Here's a guy who always,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, never looked for the easy way out, but

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<v Speaker 2>here looks for the East way out, and then a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who never wants to fuse with Goku but instantly

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<v Speaker 2>wants to fuse with Goku. It took away from Vegeta.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got way too much pride to just say, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just use the blunt swaves to transform to

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<v Speaker 1>Super Saiyan for it, and especially way too much pride

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<v Speaker 1>to just immediately fuse with Goku.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look at Dragon Ball Super, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite. Yeah, dragon Ball Super, Vegeta got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of shine, Vegeta got a lot of transformations. It was

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<v Speaker 2>all on his own accord. Even in the manga because

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the one thing I gotta say is it

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<v Speaker 2>is hard to compare Super to GT when GT was

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<v Speaker 2>only sixty four episodes and Dragon Ball Super was one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty one episodes. But it's continuing with the manga.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say it's continuing the manga.

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<v Speaker 2>So technically, I mean, I don't know. July seventh, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get a lot more of a I guess

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<v Speaker 2>clear clearer direction for Dragon Ball Super when Toora Toorro

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<v Speaker 2>has that Japan anime expo. But the story could continue GT.

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<v Speaker 2>The story's done, you can't continue it Super. You can

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<v Speaker 2>see I know in GT, Goku goes off with Chenron

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<v Speaker 2>and then we do a hundred year time jump and

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<v Speaker 2>we see Goku Junior and Vegeta Junior facing off in

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<v Speaker 2>the martial arts tournament. But it wasn't follow up, don

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that there was a movie about Goku

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<v Speaker 2>Junior and Vegeta Junior and Pan who's like one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>plus year old, But I don't think they're ever going

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<v Speaker 2>to go back now and follow up on that story

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<v Speaker 2>of what happens with Goku Junior one hundred years later.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus it's way too much of a jump as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it was cool to see the little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a glimpse in the future, to see, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Goku has a great great great grandson who follows up

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<v Speaker 2>and his footsteps, and I like that. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a lot more intrigue with what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in the Moral arc, what happens in the Granola arc,

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<v Speaker 2>the full Superhero arc, and what's going to happen in

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<v Speaker 2>the future with Black Freezer. I'm more intrigued by that

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<v Speaker 2>story continuing than if we go back and continue the GT.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Goku Junior arc, Goku Junior arc.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so definitively it is now time to give

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<v Speaker 2>your answer GT or Super? What is the better Dragon

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<v Speaker 2>Ball Z sequel?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, personally, I do still have to say, is I

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<v Speaker 1>think Dragon Ball Super is the better sequel? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really hard because.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you love bears, all right, can I not? You

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<v Speaker 2>love bears?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love beers and weeks. However, like like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to like go right off of like

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<v Speaker 1>animation everything. Like, I think GT is technically the better sequel. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer the Super route. And it was directly from

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<v Speaker 1>like a Cura Toriyama because it was continuing the manga,

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<v Speaker 1>which is all his work anyway, So it's like going

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<v Speaker 1>along with like the actual story, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got to agree. I'm going with Dragon Ball

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<v Speaker 2>Super as well. One question I forgot to ask beforehand,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to lead us to our next topic

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<v Speaker 2>for Thursday's episode. What show had the better transformations? Was

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<v Speaker 2>it Super or GT? Reminder and GT. We have Super

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<v Speaker 2>saying three Kid Goku and we have Super saying four,

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<v Speaker 2>Goku Super saying four Vegeta, and we have Super saying

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<v Speaker 2>four Gojta. You can even throw in majub there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, Super, there's like a bunch Super.

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<v Speaker 2>You had Super saying God, Super Saiying Blue. Eventually Super

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<v Speaker 2>Saiying Blue evolved Super Saying Blue with Kyo.

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<v Speaker 1>Kin Ultra Instinct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Ultra Instinct sign mastered Ultra Instinct. You have

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<v Speaker 2>which I know, Super got very transformation heavy, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to continue with you know, Gohan Beast and

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<v Speaker 2>Orange Piccolo.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Though everyone got progressed. Yeah, where Super I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the Super got everybody stronger. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>like that GT really looked at Super, saying four as

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<v Speaker 2>the pinnacle of a Super Saiyan and that's as far

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<v Speaker 2>as you could go. But I even though there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot in Super, you can't stop ultra instinct.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, I was gonna say, honestly, I think Super still

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<v Speaker 1>had like the better transformations because it's not like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just Gokol and Vegeta like you saw like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different transformations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. So that leads us to our topic

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday. What do we talk about on Thursday?

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<v Speaker 1>On Thursday, we're gonna talk about our top ten favorite

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<v Speaker 1>transformations in all of dragon Ball. Yeah, so that includes

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<v Speaker 1>dragon Ball Z, dragon Ball GT, and Dragon Ball Super.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I know your favorite. I'm going to give a

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<v Speaker 2>little spoiler. I know your favorite is when Zorbon became

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<v Speaker 2>that beastly Zorbon figure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's your favorite, but you know it's not. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because you brought it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you you your favorite is Captain Gin. You going

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<v Speaker 2>full Frog.

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<v Speaker 1>That was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, we'll catch you here on Thursday with a new

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<v Speaker 2>episode a Scout Division. I love you all, See you Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys,