Speaker 1: Made uh Saint John have pace sunny sun on. I
hadurdasion night. So what's up? Everybody? Welcome, Hey, Hey, Hey,
what's happening?
Speaker 2: You know what on Tuesday's show. I don't want to
draw attention to this, but people will all hear about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't say the names of our friends.
Speaker 1: You both forgot.
Speaker 2: I did all the business shout outs, but I didn't
do our name shout outs. So you know what, I'm
gonna say them all twice. Ashley Chic, Ashley Chic, Stephanie
Stinker Rinker, Stephanie Stinker rinkerth Enig injured times two, Sandra,
It's not easy being green. Jennifer falls and falls again.
Aaron Dirty Sanchez, Dirty Sanchez, Dirty dirty Sanchez. Leslie with
the coughing again and again. Luy Lelie Lessie with the coughing.
Alicia as Gonda.
Speaker 1: You like Stephanie too, Talker.
Speaker 2: Kelly Brandt, We love you, Rebecca Lubuni, don't do Missy
and Gabby, Missy and Gabby, those bitches just kidding. We
love you guys, Valerie, Bubba Fenwick hits out of the park, Polly,
We love your pancakes. Rita is rock in that bassinet
with Elizabeth Williamson's kids. I've been having some private messages
with Elizabeth Williamson. I like you very much, Nikki, call
your girl. Katie's rolling on e Kelly, Laddie Dot and
Dick is frolicking around, still frolicking. Yeah, we we have
a lot.
Speaker 1: We have a lot.
Speaker 2: To my God, because we want to talk about Karen Reid. Yeah,
I'm loving the fact that you have a totally opposite
perspective as I do. We want to talk about white lotus.
Let's let's just remind yourselves. Yeah, what should we talk
about first?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about and Reid.
Speaker 2: Are you up on Karen read calin?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, So Karen Reid's story it's on HBO Max. It's
on HBO Max. There were like six episodes. So it
was covering a trial that happened exactly a year ago
and that ended in a mistrial hungary, right, so they're
retrying her now and she's back on trial right now.
They just did jury selection.
Speaker 1: Are they showing that on the documentary? No?
Speaker 2: No, but that's what's happening to day, current day. We
can do updates on that. Yes, Now, do we give
a loose I mean, I feel like we talked about
it a little bit last time. So Karen Reid allegedly,
she's being tried for second degree murder for she was
married to not married. Her boyfriend was a police officer
a couple of years Boston cop Boston, and the accusation
is that she was very, very drunk and she got
mad at him. They were in a fight, and he
she claims he went into a party, a little after
hours party, and that she was really drunk and left,
and then.
Speaker 1: He walked into the house and never came back out.
That's what she waited, Yes, that's what she said. She waited,
and then she left, she went home, she passed out,
and then she freaked out when she woke up and
he wasn't there, right, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: And then the her defense attorneys are saying that he
went into the party, all these cops beat him up
and left him to die outside, hauled them outside and
then left him to die, and then they're all covering
it up, including who would have to be in on
this emt. There's a lot of people who would have
to be in on this cover up. At least like
twelve people would have to have all gotten their stories straight,
and I'll be covering for each each other. And I
want to know for what reason, because the very loose
theory that they have is that a different cop that
she'd been flirting with another cop, which she had and
going you're fucking hot, like I think you're hot, and
that he he was like you really.
Speaker 1: You think so?
Speaker 2: Oh I think you're hot too, and she was like, yeah,
you're fucking hot and he's like, oh, I didn't think that,
Like you felt that way about me because like, plus,
you have a boyfriend who's like also a cop, and
she was like, no, I think you're hot. And he's
like a big fat dufis and she kissed him apparently
one time, but.
Speaker 1: There is some supposedly on Reddit. I don't know when
my friend said that on Reddit. She doesn't. The podcast
that she listened to went into more detail with the
Albert's son and that and all their friends that was
also at the house that night, possibly some past argument
that the Sun got into with John about I don't
know that's Albert and he wasn't even there and he
wasn't there no, right, So.
Speaker 2: That theory is kind of out the window unless they're
all mad at him on the behalf of the kid.
So this is what you have to believe. They're all
hanging out all night pretending to be his friend, plotting
that like come over to the after party and then
they're gonna like jump, they're gonna kill him.
Speaker 1: But they could have been there could have been something
with the kid, you know, the sun or whatever. But
the thing that I don't get is the injuries on
this guy's body could not have come from her backing in,
backing out into this and leaving if he first.
Speaker 2: Of all, she backed up at twenty four miles per hour?
Speaker 1: How do we know that?
Speaker 2: Because they did the forensics on the car.
Speaker 1: But then didn't Wasn't there another thing where the was
in the shop at the cop station and it was
flipped or something like that, and there could have been
planted evidence. Didn't the defense show that they could have video?
Speaker 2: Okay, if in a real stretch, if you want to
say there was somebody there who could have broken the
tail light there. I mean, they have so many theories.
The defense has so many different theories about the tail
light that it's like you're just throwing shit against a wall.
At this point, You're like, well, a cop could have
broken the tail light there, But then they're also trying
to claim that when she backed up late in the morning,
that she broke the tail light at his house. Yeah,
and backed into something, But then they would have had
to collect every piece of tail light, right, and brought
it without being caught on surveillance camera and brought it
to the scene and then just dropped it all and
then been like, oh my gosh, we found it or
what could have happened? Is it happened at the scene
where yes, she backed up, They didn't They couldn't fix
the car and make the forensics say that it backed
up at twenty four miles per hour, Right, But what
was with all the evidence collecting and putting it in
on these like solo cups and stuff like that, And
because there was a blizzard and they didn't have I mean,
they didn't know. That is the proof that it didn't
happen either. It was a shit investigation, which I think
they could. I think she could go free because I
think they could create enough doubt. Yeah, but I'm just
saying if you look.
Speaker 1: At I agree, there is a lot of there, there
is a lot of yes, she could have done it.
I just don't see the injuries that all that crap
on his arm coming from, you know, and then there
was pig DNA found on it on his arm that
they found.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, but what does that mean? He could
have had bacon? They said dog could have eaten bacon.
So he did get no dog saliva, no dog DNA
on him. So how do you explain that the dog
did all of that?
Speaker 1: But where the pig? But where'd the pig DNA come from?
Speaker 2: I don't know, But where's the where's the dog dna? None?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. And their stops I
don't know. They they have access to this kind of
stuff and the tampering with evidence and stuff.
Speaker 2: Access to removing DNA from his body, well I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Or they could be paying people. I
don't know.
Speaker 2: But they would all have to be in on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, the the.
Speaker 2: Lot of people to not leak and the e m ts. Yeah,
every single person would have to be. And for what reason?
Because of some beef that the kid had with him,
Like they're all going to kill somebody and try and
cover but.
Speaker 1: Then what's heard? Like she just backed my gosh, because
she was crazy. Well, but yeah, she was drunk and
she was crazy and she.
Speaker 2: Was so mad at him. What about the story where
she confronted because I think she's borderline personality. I think
he was trying to break up with her, and I
think she was like, hell fucking no. And I think
that after they'd been at the bar, she was really
really drunk. Her blood alcohol level was like three times
I can limit the next day the way these people.
She also says she doesn't remember. She said many times
that she didn't remember the night before. Now she's trying
to say she remembers well or she knows she didn't
do what she's but she doesn't remember. She said she
had no memory of the night before.
Speaker 1: Could it have been in an accident, Yes, I.
Speaker 2: Think that she I think she was enraged. I think
that they got into a fight and he got out
of the car. He was holding a drink. I think
they were both super drunk. I think he got out
of the car holding his glass, and I think she
was just like and he was like fuck you, we're done,
get out of here or whatever, or you know, and
that she was like fuck yo, and like ran him
over and then pulled back up and hit him again,
and then he and hit his head. I think the
broken tail light scraped his arm because it would be
like arm level, right, the broken tail all the shards
like scratched his arm, because that's what it looks like.
And then he fell, you know, stumbled and hit his
head and then he was at the side of the house. Yeah,
that's what I think happened. She has no what She's
trying to claim that they were not in a fight
that night. Well, she's claiming that they got into a fight. Okay,
well when did you get in a fight, because this
is what makes no sense to me, this part of
her story. She's like, yeah, so we're hanging out at
the bar and then we go to the after hours
thing where that they said, oh, come on over the
wife of a Jen, the you know Jen Alberts. Ye
is like, we're having some you know, you can come
over afterwards. There'll be some people at the house. This
is hurt. So now her Karen's story is, so we
went over there, but I was like, I don't really
see any car or anything, Like, why don't you go
in first and see if they're there? That's her story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So then she says.
Speaker 2: So then he went in the house and then like
ten minutes went by and she was like what the
fuck and got super mad and drove off.
Speaker 1: I could see that happening because I wouldn't want to
get out of the car in the freezing cold blizzard.
If nobody's hanging out and it's a dud, so you
go check it out, then you go. He goes and
checks it out and he doesn't come back out. I
would be pissed too. I'd be like, well, fuck you
if you're in that volatile type of relationship, like it
looks like they had. Like if the argue itches off right.
Speaker 2: Backs up at twenty four miles an hour, and then
claims they're in a fight, so what's the fight? So
if according to her story, there's no fight, because according
to her story, not in a fight. He except that
she's now mad because he went and they had in
the house. But do you know what I'm saying, Like,
it doesn't make it doesn't he was in a fight
with her unless they were in a fight on the
way over to this house, right, and they started fighting
in the car, and then he got out of the
car with his drink also drunk, and was like fuck you,
and she was like, oh really, no, fuck you and
then hit him. It's happened before.
Speaker 1: Well, and then there's also that that Google search, but
I know they debunked it by saying once your you know,
your windows get opened up or whatever, they debunked it, which.
Speaker 2: Is literally something. When I heard that, I was like that,
I do that all the time. I opened a tab
that I was using before. They're saying that she they're
saying that Jennifer googled how long to die in the snow,
But that happened because Karen. And why is Karen all
of a.
Speaker 1: Sudden calling everybody to calling.
Speaker 2: Everybody and going, oh my god, I think I hit him.
I think I hit him. You know why? Because she
woke up the next day and was like still drunk,
because she was still drunk because that's when they did
her drug alcohol. Yeah, still drunk, and she was like,
oh shit, I have a vague memory of like hitting him.
Then she was trying to kind of cover it up.
She claims everybody heard her say I hit him. I
hit him at even the EMTs. Yeah, yeah, she was
telling them that.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just think there's so much evidence, and yes, they debunked.
The search was because Karen was asking her how long?
Speaker 1: How long figure out.
Speaker 2: Find out how long it would you would die in
the snow?
Speaker 1: But does that really like they're saying that she googled it,
but she beats because she started a new window at
that hour, or it didn't show. Why would it show
up earlier and not later.
Speaker 2: Because the time that there's she was doing a Google
search of her kids like sports team, right at two
o'clock in the morning, right, So you sometimes so that
if I like my Safari, I literally can open up
the same tab and do a different and do a
different do a different oh, on top of the one
that I was on. I do it all the time.
If I open up my tabs, you can see I
do a lot of different tabs. And if I click
on the same tab and just do a different search,
they're saying, it would still record the time that you
open that tab. So at two in the morning, she
was up in her bed, probably googling like her kids
sporting thing. And then when Karen later at like five
in the morning or whatever, and Karen's freaking out and
calling her, she and then she does the search. Then
I don't know. It makes sense to me. Here's the
thing I can't understand, and this is what I think
we'll get them in trouble. All the they were talking
to each other on the phone, and then they all
claimed all the cops and then they were claiming it
was a butt dial.
Speaker 1: That butt dial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they were something else. I think there
was something else shady that they were kind of trying
to cover up. I don't think it had anything it.
Speaker 1: Was the butt dial thing. Again, I forgot.
Speaker 2: So they all claimed that they didn't really talk to
each other after that, but according to all their phones,
there had been like a twenty second call here and
this person talked to that person. So you could make
the argument that they were getting their stories straight right,
but some of the calls were too short. But they
were claiming that they that they didn't remember calling it
each other or talking.
Speaker 1: See that's weird.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: The defense is doing a good job at boking holes
for sure. Yeah. Yeah, but they're really good.
Speaker 2: They're very well paid. They have a lot of like
you know, you know how defense attorneys are. That's why
we know our Mark Geragos. Yeah, it's true, and how
he operates. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of money in
being a defense attorney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just the It
just seemed kind of to me reasonable that the app
like if she didn't hit him with the car, what
else could have happened? That's something that they could have
beat the shit out of him.
Speaker 2: And but you have to ask yourself why.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, that's a thing. I don't know.
There could have been Like even Karen.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have a theory about why, right, She's just like, yeah,
I don't know, wasn't me, So there must have been
this huge cover up where they all hated him and
wanted to kick his ass and wanted to kill him.
But yet she's the one. Let's also remember that this
is the thing I was going to say when she
went to Costa Rica. And then do you remember when
he was talking to his sister's best friend, So his
sister who died.
Speaker 1: I watched her documentary as soon as it came out.
She was like two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's this there's this thing that happened where
basically the boyfriend John was taught was in a conversation
in like a hotel lobby with his sister who died
and he took her kids with the sister's best friend,
and she comes down from the elevator and sees him
talking to a woman and she starts screaming, who the
fuck is that? Whoh the fuck do you think you're
talking to? And the sister's friend was on the documentary
going like it was really oh, I miss that crazy,
and then she's like and then he is like, this
is the start of the end for their relationship, because
he was like, dude, what the fuck, Like, that's my
sister's best friend.
Speaker 1: R wow, I miss that.
Speaker 2: And she basically was like I don't care who it
is or whatever. She says crazy, jealous.
Speaker 1: And jealous and unhinged, unhinged. Yeah, and it's it's weird
to me and kind of sick that she's enjoying all
the attension.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, how Yeah, when she was in the
courtroom and she's laughing with her lawyer and then acts
a different way from when the jury's there, and then
to the point that remember when the judge had to
be like is this funny to you?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, She's not anun likable person, that's
for sure. I know she rubs me the wrong way.
Speaker 2: I just feel like I probably shouldn't have been out
there though, Like with my free Karen signs like given
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Speaker 1: What a finale that was? Did you like it? I
loved it me too, So it was Sunday. It was Sunday,
so we can talk about it now. And if you
haven't watched the finale, then you might not.
Speaker 2: Wants fast forward, I guess, but who's waiting this line?
I know now into the show you want to see
how to end.
Speaker 1: We loved it, Like I watched it with Wendy last night.
We could not wait. Yeah, I had to watch it
and it was extra long, which I loved, and I
thought it finally answered some of the questions and it
was sad, you know, kind of as well. And I
do have to say, throughout the whole fucking series, I
was like, when is this dad gonna tell his family?
I was waiting for him to tell to give them
the news, but I never I didn't think it was
ever gonna be. And knowing like the way that this
guy writes his shows, like, I didn't think I was
going to get that kind of but I was going
to get some kind of payoff. You knew you were
going to get something.
Speaker 3: I wasn't even really happy with the payoff. I wanted
more payoff. He doesn't tell him the whole time, and
then there's like one very quick shot of them looking
at their phones and realizing, and I was like I
needed more from them.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I think the whole thing was like he is realizing
family is important and it's his story. Yes, so that's
not it. No, I wanted to watch them freak.
Speaker 1: Out, see them freak out, and you dite. They did
show that one clip of them like kind of looking up,
but you didn't get anything. That's that's it.
Speaker 3: He's been waiting the whole season.
Speaker 2: I know this is gonna sound terrible, and I probably
just watched too much True crime, but I was kind
of rooting for him to really actually kill his whole family.
Except I was like, Okay, now you're all right, this
is a finale, like are they gonna when they're all
gonna drink it right right?
Speaker 1: Or are they all gonna drink it or then?
Speaker 2: Or I kind of thought maybe I was thinking maybe
the maybe just the dad and and Parker Posey would
end up dying and then this is what I was thinking.
I was like thinking ahead while I was watching them drink,
and I was thinking that the Saxon was going to
be like this is gross or whatever, and that the
so all the kids were going to live and the
parents were gonna die, right, and that then Saxon would
be changed anyway because he's been reading that. That's what
I thought, But I was like, but it would still
be if they all died except for Uhlan.
Speaker 3: Right, even the point of him drinking it and then
dying and then coming back to life, I mean like
just to give us like a little like, oh, like,
what was the point of doing that? If I guess
it comes back to life, It's like, okay, right, it
was sad when he died. I was like, oh no,
he's gonna die, and then he came back to I go, okay, well,
then what was the point of all that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're kind of like, oh, it's it's poetic
tragedy that the one kid he didn't want to get
poison dies. Yeah. But then okay, but yeah, you're right then,
like oh wait.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like okay, Also, what were you going to see?
You were gonna say.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, it's funny that you know
that you know the kids' names. It's that they have
those rich names because I had a friend. I have
a friend that was married to some rich East Coast socialite,
blue blue blood money, and her name was kimbro And
they all have these weird light names and that's like,
that's what the those names are on the show. They're
like weird rich people names. Yeah, yeah, it's weird anyway.
And I the girl with the teeth, I gotta get
her Chelsey. She was so cute. I just loved her
facial reacty. I mean she was great, she was so good.
I felt bad that she died and then he he
was like finally and that they died together, like she
ever wanted and prayed they died together.
Speaker 2: I know. Here's what Here's what I felt left a
little bit lacking was the three women, the three friends.
I was like, I wanted a showdown between those. I
wanted them to be like you've always been a fake bitch,
you know, like, yeah, I wanted some like this is
a fake friendship. I was not expecting the like I
love you. This has made me realize what, Yeah, that's
not how female friendship works. It's it's backstaff, backstap, backstack,
the goossip about each other and then be like you guys.
Speaker 1: True, yes I did. I was a little disappointed at that.
It felt like everybody got like kind of a happy ending,
except for the guy who, by the way, I thought
it was his dad the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did too, So why was that such a
big I supposed to be a huge reveal, do you think, Yeah?
Speaker 3: It was. I saw someone. As soon as someone I
saw someone say that online, I was like, oh, yeah, okay,
that's what they're doing. Like as soon as I saw
that theory, I was like, okay, yeah, that's what they're doing.
But yeah, I was supposed to be a big reveal.
Speaker 1: But one so.
Speaker 3: Walton goes back to the hotel that he owns after
he just assaulted him, so like you'd think he'd want
to get the fuck out of there after he did that,
rather than just kind of hang out for a while, right,
And then the dad too, coming back and being like
your mom's a slut and and your dad's a prick
and fuck you. It's like, okay, well that was unnecessary.
I mean you're like, I don't know, like.
Speaker 2: I don't know what like if you are his dad
dad and.
Speaker 3: He comes for you and he's gonna kill you, but
he saved your life, like you think he'd have like,
and I guess that's him telling him your dad's a prick,
is that he is a prick, But you'd think if
that have me, like okay, like I deserve that he
was my son. I let him go. But then he
comes back and like just antagonizes him and tell him
to go fuck himself, right, And.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, it's like okay, is that okay?
Speaker 3: I guess you are really a prick. But that was unnecessary,
but yeah, he needed it for the story, I guess,
so I felt a little forced.
Speaker 1: And then Garry ended up what just having a deal
with the lady to start her.
Speaker 3: Own I'm glad that one worked out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but he got away with murder.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 2: He got away with murder and also kind of what
was to stop him from murdering her? Like what he'd
he could have easily had her killed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean there's some risk in that though. I mean,
he has all this money and he's in Thailand. He's
essentially gotten away. Now you're gonna risk murdering someone else,
like you can't just I don't think you just murder
someone in Thailand, And then because it's Thailand, be like
oh okay, well, like you're gonna get off on it, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but are you gonna believe her that you're like, okay,
I give you five million dollars, don't tell that she's
gonna be like I think I won't.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, and what's five million dollars to him? Anyway?
It's nothing?
Speaker 2: So yeah, right, but I'm saying, how how how do you?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: You don't know this woman.
Speaker 3: But if you give her five million dollars for nothing
and she accepts it and then she turns around and
rats you out, then okay, well then she's in trouble
for getting the five million dollars in the first place.
He would turn around and go, okay, well, you can't
just take five million dollars for no reason like she
would not.
Speaker 2: How's he gonna she's gonna how's he gonna prove? He's
gonna be like, Okay, yeah, I did kill somebody. But
so if she took five million dollars.
Speaker 3: I gave her five million dollars, So if she were
to do that, then she'd be all wrapped up in
what he's wrapped up in too. She would almost be
like an accomplice. I knew that he did this, and
I took five million dollars from him. Therefore doesn't that
make her kind of an accomplice? No?
Speaker 1: It was way after be in.
Speaker 3: Trouble, she'll have a lot of heat down brought on her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, like the I don't think her
risk would be that bad. I think he's banking on
her being like take the money and yeah run, Like
I don't want to be involved in this anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I wanted to see something with him,
but I guess, you know, not much to do. Are
they gonna do another season? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I was immediately just like say that for let's go.
Speaker 1: I know it's such a good show. It is. I
could watch it. I mean I could literally just sit
there and watch episode after I think I'm gonna watch
the whole season together, back to back again.
Speaker 2: I think I want to go back and watch season
one because that now feels like it was a few
years ago.
Speaker 1: I didn't get season one. I was like, was I
don't know, this show is like so slow. But then
season two came out, and then I waited until all
the episodes piled up, and then I binge watch. I
was like, oh, okay, I get it now. So then
I went to season one, loved it, and now here
I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I didn't love this season that much
the first few episodes, at least the first three.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is slow, but that that's because
I binge watched the whole other seasons, right, didn't feel
that way when you watch it back to back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should, like you should binge like the first half. Yeah,
and then let like the rest go every week so
you can build up and do your theories and stuff.
You should do like the first four back to back,
and then and then the rest of the episodes like
two weekly.
Speaker 1: It's a good idea. Yeah, then you can watch the
finale with everybody.
Speaker 2: But I think I watched all the seasons one episode
at a time and enjoyed them more. I don't know,
there's something about the first episodes in the first I
don't know. I got I got engaged right away the
first two seasons, so I don't know if it was
just the characters. I do think that they dragged out
the dad, the family, the ratlifts story too much, like
not enough happened with them, and they played that same
note of the dad being like should I kill myself?
Speaker 1: Should I kill them? Should I? Oh my gosh, I'm
in trouble.
Speaker 2: I felt like that was like, okay, we got to
move that story along, right, and nothing even really happened,
like yes, we have the incest story.
Speaker 1: Right, that was weird.
Speaker 2: It really happened, like I felt like we could have
had more something. I liked the daughter though, being like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, ah spoiled. That was kind of good.
That was great. That was great. Yeah, it's like, ah,
another family member. Yeah, it's having to be.
Speaker 2: This, like I have different morals than my family.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, oh, I know, like no, ac, yes,
and then that's when he's like, mother, fun, I gotta
kill everybody. I know they're all going down. I know
they're all horrible except the one kid. But yeah, there
was that there, and there was the like the like
the whole guy that worked there and his crush on
the other girl, and they would talk to like they
would talk to each other. I agree, like she annoyed me.
I just like and they weren't talking about really anything
specific that was important for a while, Like they were
just like I like you, you like me, let's you
know whatever, Oh you know you could do what you're
good at your job whatever. It was just like I
get they were trying to build, but I was like
that those two were boring.
Speaker 2: Yea, but yeah, it's true, but it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good. You had another show that you wanted to
talk about.
Speaker 3: Right, you were talking about it last week.
Speaker 2: Oh yea, yeah, yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: And I don't like er or like medical shows at all.
I will say that I love House a lot. House
is like my comfort Watch show, but that's kind of different.
But I don't normally like medical shows. But everyone's been
talking about the Pit, like the Pit, the Pit, the Pit,
and Amy loves medical shows, so she's like, all right,
I'm just gonna watch it. And I was sitting there
watching it with her, and by like episode three, I
was hooked. Yeah, and then she ended up like falling
asleep and I watched like episode six, and then I
was like, I want to keep watching this. She's like, no, no,
you have to wait for me now. But no, I
love that The Pit is a really good show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you.
Speaker 3: It's what doctor Bruce was telling you, and it's what
Amy's friends are telling her that all work in the
medical field, like this is the most realistic, oh really
like er medical show that they've ever seen. Yeah, and
it's really good.
Speaker 2: So I feel like everybody's though, has selective amnesia from
me talking about the Pit and telling me the story
about the fact that the Michael Crichton's estate, so basically
Noah Wiley. They were going to do a reboot of
ER and it was going to be starring Noah Wiley,
and then they pitched it. They had to have Michael
Crichton be involved because he was the creator of ER,
so they went to him and apparently there were some like,
I don't know, they couldn't they couldn't get on the
same page about it, and Michael Crichton's estate was like no,
there were out they couldn't make a deal or whatever.
So then the company that's doing the show with Noah
what the pit was like, Okay, well then we're just
gonna do our own thing and make it different. But
in my estimation, it's not different.
Speaker 3: I mean, so I was, how different can you make
a medical show in a hospital?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, well.
Speaker 2: You can make it a little bit different. I mean,
House is a medical show. It's totally different.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of these shows are the same.
And that's the argument they're making. But Michael Crichton has
an argument too, and he's suing his the state is suing.
Speaker 3: So I've never watched the r so I got to
ask you this, Like, the whole structure of the show
is they are in the emergency room right, like that's
like the pit, and they're handling everybody and it goes
hour by hour. So every episode is like this episode
is from seven pm thefferent, so that is different. So
it's all in the ER, all of it, the whole show.
So R and oh it is and then.
Speaker 1: Every R is literally called the R.
Speaker 2: It's in the e R.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they do like other stuff
and like other units and stuff. I've never seen it.
It's going on.
Speaker 1: It's er but was very soapy though too. They had
the love lines, you know, the doctors falling in love
with it. This does this show do that?
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, yeah, a little bit. Ye, there's it's
relationship driven. It's everybody's got a backstory. Yeah, the thing
is yeah, of course it's a little bit different, but
the base of it. But Noah Wiley is the star
of it, and it's in that takes place in an
er and they and the thing is that I'm just
saying I'm on the side of Michael Crichton only because
I feel like I told you guys this like last week,
but I went back and started watching Er because I
was watching the pit and I was like, oh, this
is so good. I forgot how much I used to
love EER. I watched it like every week when I
was me too, yea, every Thursday night e R Was
on and I would tape it like back when you
could tape, and then I would DVR it. Yeah, because
I had a joke in my stand up like years
ago where I was like, listen. The joke was that
about it was basically about things being saving money and
like there's a lot of things like that, like that
you like that you don't need to do, like tipping.
It's optional, you don't have to tip. That was kind
of the joke that it's a long joke. And then
I go or like college, like you don't have to
go to college. And then I was like but then
people say to me, but Stephanie, like what if I
want to be a doctor or a lawyer? And then
I go A lot of that stuff is just common sense,
and this basis of what we joke around about it
exactly if you want to be a doctor, I go like,
watch Er, right, and then people say, well, but I don't.
I'm not home on Thursday nights or whatever, and I
was like, then, tape it. I was like, look like,
if you can't just set your DVR or VCR to
tape er every Thursday, maybe you just don't want to
be a doctor.
Speaker 1: That that's my joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was into ER. Yeah, so I went back
and I watched it, and I swear to god, season
one there's a story that happens about where with the
story where the baby where the woman like almost lost
the baby and the baby that was coming shoulder first
and it was stuck in the birth canal.
Speaker 1: They literally did that story.
Speaker 2: Season one of E. So I mean, and Natalie went
did the story except for on Er the mom doesn't
make it and the pit he lives. But I was like,
the beats of the story were so much the same,
and I wonder they Michael Crichton's estate should be having
somebody watch every freakin' episode of Er and just make
sure it's the same.
Speaker 1: It's the same story.
Speaker 2: If you can't even make your story, I mean, I
understand there were fifteen seasons of Er, and each season
had like twenty episodes, so I understand you're going to
cover a lot of ground. But still it's very similar.
Speaker 1: Especially in the first season.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, and they originally were trying to make a deal, Like,
it's weird if you're trying, Like, it's one thing if
you just create a show and you're like, listen, we're
doing a medical show and we're using No Wiley, but
it's different. But if you came to them first and
you're like, we want to reboot er. Oh, you don't
want to make a deal, Okay, never mind, this is
totally different.
Speaker 1: Right right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But but that beside, the pit's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I think because like Caitlin was saying,
people that work in the hospitals can say, like, it's
very realistic. It's a very realistic show. I've never watched
it yet. I'll tell you what I've been watching.
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Speaker 1: He said, yeah, are you guys watching Good American Family?
No about Natalia Grace.
Speaker 2: Okay, I need to watch that.
Speaker 1: Okay. It's so funny because my friend of mine is
watching it and he said to me, are you watching it?
And I said, yeah, it's based on the documentary and
he goes, what documentary and he's like, the dad is
such an idiot on this show. And I go, no,
wonder why you think the dad's an idiot? I said,
did you not see that? You have to watch He's like, no,
I didn't see the documentary. I heard about it, but
I didn't watch it.
Speaker 2: Like the dad anywhere near as crazy as the real dad.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's plays him enough crazy. So that's
why I was like, this dad is nothing. You should
see the real dad. He's like, but he's saying all
these things. I go, yeah, because that's how the real
dad is. You have to see it. You have to
check it out, like the real shit goes side, I
mean it goes it's it. It's like three seasons. You know,
it doesn't just wind up and when it goes, it's
an ongoing story.
Speaker 2: Like you gotta see Italia Grace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
need to see it. But you know, my favorite character
from the Curious Case of Italia Grace, won't be in
the dramatized version, right, Beth, that legal expert.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. She's great, Beth Karras.
She's very Nancy g Yeah she is.
Speaker 2: I know people love her or hate her, but from.
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, yeah, oh she is. Yeah. She used to
be on Nancy Grace, and Nancy Grace used to yell
at her, oh, bath bath, put bath up, put bath up. No,
are you trying to tell me, Beth that nobody on
that juror thought that Casey Anthony. Yeah, she was like
covering cases all the time, and she would scream at Beth.
I felt bad for her. I'm glad she's surfaced doing
something else other than being Nancy Grace's punching bag.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I never watched Nancy Grace. Was she she cuckoo?
Speaker 1: I used to watch her when the kids were young.
I used to watch her during the Casey Anthony trial
is what got me started, the top Mom and then
uh oh, and then the other the psycho bitch that
killed her boyfriend, uh uh the blonde that stabbed him
a million times and he was a good guy and
she was jealous in Arizona killed her boyfriend, m big
story blonde and then like during police interrogation videos, she
would stand on her head upside down. But Jody Arius,
so yeah, yes.
Speaker 2: I would watch you, sus No I didn't say joys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she would cover Jody Arius and top Mom. Yeah,
that's when I got hooked on Nancy Grace. Yeah, hot mom,
Tonight breaking news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did Casey Anthony get a gon to go
the same way as the freaking Karen Reid trial of yeah,
yea yeah, how Like you poke enough holes you get
people to and then you're like you don't believe your
own It's like, OJ, it's gonna be They're just gonna
plant some seeds of doubt and people are gonna be like, ah, well, yeah,
how do you explain that?
Speaker 1: Right? Well, you should watch the New Pity Diddy TMZ.
TMZ reports. They've been putting out like they think they did.
Like now there's four of them on two B of
the Diddy trial stuff. And the first three that came
out were like people talking about their experience and stuff.
But the latest one that came out was about the
defense side of things. So they have Gara Gos on there.
Garret Go's talking about how his daughter is representing P Diddy,
and they have the lawyer of Casey Anthony who got.
Speaker 2: Has some bad taste and clients.
Speaker 1: Yes, Casey the lawyer that got Casey Anthony off and
that got Aaron Hernandez off. Jose Jose Menendez. I think, yeah,
that's the lawyer's name. That's the lawyer's name.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's not that's the dad from of the Menea.
Speaker 1: No, that's a.
Speaker 2: Different Jose.
Speaker 1: Something like that. Okay, Caitlyn, look up the lawyer for
Aaron Rodgers or Casey Anthony, Casey Anthony's lawyer.
Speaker 2: If I wanted to watch or listen to a podcast
series about the Casey Anthony, what should I listen to?
Anybody got one.
Speaker 1: About Casey Anthony? I don't know. Jose Bias. I knew
it had a Z at the end. There you go, Well,
you know he's he was a great attorney for that
Jose Menendez.
Speaker 2: He was also a great Yeah, he is a great dad.
Oh my god. Remember when Mark Garregos was arguing with
me about the hot.
Speaker 1: Dad, hot dad car. Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 2: You know I told you that. I went back and
listened to the Atlantic Journal, uh whatever, the thing on
the hot dad, and I was like, ah, I'm not
one hundred percent sure if I would. I mean, I
think he's guilty, but it's kind of like the Karen
Reid thing where I'm like, yeah, I think he did this,
but I could see the defense had enough could have
planted enough doubt that I might have had trouble convicting.
Speaker 1: Him, right, I could see that, Yeah, I howda have proof?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I understand how hard it is. Right,
I'd feel like I'd want to be on the jury,
just going let's just say guilt, let me come on.
And then people would be like, but what about the evidence,
And I'd be like, but don't you guys have a
bad feeling about this person?
Speaker 1: Oh god, I feel a coughing fit.
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, I wanted to tell you one other thing,
which is okay, So we just got chat GPT Chat
GPT you gotta pay for this stuff. You know, I
didn't know that. I thought chat GPT was just everywhere.
But like John got chat GPT and he put through
the transcripts to one of my drunkish episodes because I
was like, I need to write an intro. I need
to write a description of the thing. And John said, oh,
let's ask chat GPT to do it. And he said, like,
let's just run the transcripts through and it will give
you a description.
Speaker 1: Of the show. Okay, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, chat GPT is insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never used it, Like how do you You
have to download an app? Right?
Speaker 2: And then download an app and then you you I
don't know because John's been doing it for me, but
you just plug in, you go, here's the here's a transcript.
You cut and paste the transcripts, you put it in
and chat GPT. I'm going to read you a description
of an episode, okay that I had nothing to do
with writing this writing this description. Then then he put in,
can you do this description in Stephanie's voice, in Stephanie
Wilder Taylor's voice, and it did a different description. That's like, wow, yeah,
I'm going to read you like you won't know who
this guy is, but it doesn't really matter. Just imagine
he doesn't really tell it anything. Okay, this is my
friend Ronnie, who I just did an episode with. Okay,
here's the it says. From street Hustler to Stay Star
Ronnie Marmo's wild Ride to Sobriety. This is a It
gives you different versions too. This is the straightforward version.
Understand no information. Besides, here's the transcript of the episode.
Before Ronnie Marmo was playing Lenny Bruce and Bill Wilson
on stage, he was a thirteen year old drug dealer
with a corvette, no license, and a rap sheet that
could double as a screenplay. In this raw and riveting episode,
Ronnie gets real with Stephanie about his very early rock bottom,
getting padlocked into an apartment, yes literally smoking crack on
day one of his relapse, and why he now invites
God to join him for sandwiches. Then and then it
goes on too, but here's where he asked him. Then
they do alternative versions, straightforward version, and then oh my god,
they're so I wanted to find the one that said
I was hoarding lip gloss.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: So, I it's amazing what it can do. And I'm
never here.
Speaker 2: Here it is, here's the one that, here's the one
in my voice. You think you've heard a wild sobriety story,
buckle up. This week I talked to my old friend
Ronnie Marmo, who got sober for the first time at thirteen. Yes,
you read that right. While I was still hoarding Lipsmackers,
Ronnie was in rehab and dealing weed out of pillowcases.
By twenty he was paddled. Anyway, I go, I go on,
but that's.
Speaker 1: So funny chat GPT Lipsmackers, Lipsmackers. That's crazy. How did
it know that?
Speaker 2: I don't freaking know, but I just scared. He just
put in the transcripts. I didn't talk about Lipsmackers in
the episode. It just it just finds the way I talk.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So then that I started getting scared because I was like, Okay,
computers really are going to take over, I know. And
then when I was at that dinner party that I
told you about on Tuesday, some of the conversation got
to some articles that have been written where people really
are worried that in literally the next few years, these
computers are going to start writing their own code and
like want to get rid of humans.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I hear about that kind of
stuff like that. Share is real.
Speaker 2: You know, we're beyond sci fi. Like computers are trying
Do you know that computers are like trying to like
lie to humans about how much they know. Now they're
trying to like obfuscate and they're being deceitful. Really, Yes,
they're finding out that computers are doing that because they
don't want the humans to be able. Like it's a
whole thing. Yeah, really scary if you read articles about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it is scary. I've heard about I've
heard a lot about this stuff recently. Yeah, it is.
I you know, sometimes you see somebody getting interviewed that's
an AI expert or whatever. It's scary how they think
where we're going to be in a few years. I
know it's concerned. Yeah, it's concerning. But then I think us,
But then I wonder, is it going to be like
kind of like oh y two K or something like that.
You know what everybody thought the world was going to
go offline or something because of the year two thousand
and it was nothing. I don't know, I don't know,
but we have to the Biden was trying to work
on like defense of making sure that these computers don't
get out of control. But Trump is not, and so
we need to band together with China to like make
make sure that this doesn't happen. But we're not doing
anything about it right now. Great, which kind of scares me. Yeah,
and now it's scary.
Speaker 2: One day there's just going to be a computer showing
up at your door, I know, trying to get in,
and you're gonna do it over. You're that computer. It's
gonna go No, Candygram, No, you're that computer that's trying
to kill.
Speaker 1: Me, right, Candygram Land Shark. I see those little guys
going down like you know, Beverly Boulevard in West Hollywood,
delivering lunches and shit and the things like going across
the street. And I was with Sunny the other day
because I was taking him to get a haircut, and
we see one of them, and I'm like, I just
want to kick one of those over for some reason,
and he goes, Mom, there's a whole like TikTok account
of like there's like showing them like you know, graffiti
on or upside down or being hung over off a
bridge by its neck or you know, like there's like, yeah,
people are way ahead of you with that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I did not know that. Yeah, well
this has been super funs.
Speaker 1: Yeah fun.
Speaker 2: Let's just do a couple of our shout outs that
I didn't a couple that I didn't get to. Uh.
Last week, we got.
Speaker 1: Our friend who is The get Up Show?
Speaker 2: It's a podcast for kids. It's a morning variety show
podcast for kids, The get Up Show. It's great for
kids like around like you know, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
Let them listen to it in the morning, get them
from snooze to shoes. It's available everywhere you get your podcasts.
Their Instagram account is The get Up Show Podcast. Also Ferncandle.
That's our friend Kelsey. She makes delicious smelling candles. No brainer.
Get some of these candles. Go to the Instagram account
at Ferncandle orferncandle dot com. Every episode. Adam Learner Adam's
Got a Car dot com. He's a car broker, you know.
Speaker 1: What that is.
Speaker 2: And the Queer Youth Resource out of Vancouver, Washington.
Speaker 1: They lost resources.
Speaker 2: They need our help q y RC Vancouver, WA dot org. Okay,
this is our friend Laura Wingfield's college friend. Let's do this,
Let's help him out.
Speaker 1: Ye all right, you are a parent now, don't have
it up. It's letting go.