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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse souvi Here and Victor Nunior Fantasy

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Hockey Live once again.

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Speaker 2: It's Jesse Severe of fan Tracks at All along with

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Victor Nuno. And there's a lot of all in that

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it because he's a Dobberman, he's a mckeanes man, he's

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a he's doing the writing all over the place. How

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you doing today, Victor.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome. Jesse, Yeah, all the things. Thank you

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for that and thanks everyone for listening. Looking forward to

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getting back together just you and I've had We've had

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some guests on the episode, which has been fun, but

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it's nice to get back together with just us.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, my friend, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good. Yeah, it's it has been fun. It's

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been fun watching some World Juniors. The people know because

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they listen. There's always a couple of day leg between

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when the between when we record and when it comes out,

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so there could there's probably gonna be interesting results. I

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won't try to get into specific but victory. I no

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longer get NHL network, which is a huge paint because

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I can't just sit down and just watch the World Juniors.

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So I was like, how am I going to do this?

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I was like, should I go and try to find

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some illegal stream? I'm too much of a boy scout

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for that victor? But how can I do this without

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paying seventy bucks for a month's worth of some big

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cable package because nobody puts it on their basic I

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ultimately went and paid like thirty dollars to IIHF and

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got the direct stream from the International Hockey Federation people.

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And then I started watching it and I realized there's

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no announcers on this. So I'm just watching raw video

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of the World Junior's victory. I'm taking it in its purest,

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cleanest form right now.

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Speaker 3: Is that what they refer to as raw dogging it?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I don't know exactly what that means,

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but that's probably right.

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Speaker 1: It must be. It couldn't mean anything else, so we'll

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just go that.

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Speaker 2: Lord the explicit take gets slapped on tonight. Yeah no, so, yeah,

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World Juniors it is. It has been a lot of fun,

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but Victor. We have more fun to come. We're gonna

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talk about some glorious prospects that you've been writing up,

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some prospects and some guys who are maybe a little

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bit more advanced into the NHL and how they're doing

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checking in. So let's let's do that Dynasty stock watch.

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Speaker 4: Right after the Victor, we are going through players from

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Seattle and from New Jersey today.

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Speaker 2: That's I don't know how those two cities pair up.

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They seem like they're rather far apart. But but we

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are going to talk about players from those two. We're

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gonna start with some Seattle cracking, krackings cracking, I think

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it's just cracking. We're gonna talk about a few, including

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our first fella, who is Shane Wright. Shane Wright of

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the Seattle Crack. And he went from a guy who

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was supposed to be a generational pick to a disappointing

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number four in the draft to a tweener who broke

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the logic of the NHL agreement by not having a

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good place to play when he couldn't really thrive in

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the NHL as a rookie. But now we're there. He's

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a middle to depth contributor for the Kraken. You were

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definitely ahead of the curve when that draft dre a

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year that she and Wright was not the next coming

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of Connor McDavid, and he was maybe somebody who we

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even should shy away from a little bit in fantasy,

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but we should all be pretty confused with the deal

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is now barely appoint every three games at press time,

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and sheen Wright does not seem to be thriving in

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the NHL environment. Yet we've got the NHL ranking poll,

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a good old NHL ranking. Nason Black put up polls,

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and this time we put him up against Josh Norris,

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who is finally back for the Buffalo Sabers and doing

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very for the Yeah for the Buffalo Sabers and doing

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very well, but the opt injured Josh Norris and versus

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Shan Wright and Josh Norris, this is a slap in

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the face. Josh Norris trounced sheen Wright by their current

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NHL production. I get it. By Josh Norris's availability. It

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surprises me. Sixty six to thirty four percent. That's where

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we are here. It seems like Shane Wright is in

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the lefrenier zone, not the friend zone. The Lafrenier zone

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where an oft injured veteran is normal more coveted than him.

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the scouting haze of COVID shutdown era player deb Nobody

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could figure out what anybody was until it was too late.

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Where is Sheen Wright headed? Victor, I've thrown a lot

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at you tell me about Shane Wright, Josh Norris and

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what the heck is going on in this world?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good intro to this perplexing problem

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that is Shane Wright. I think to answer your last question,

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is it really hard to divorce yourself from early opinions.

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was so good at an early age, and these exceptional

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status players, I think people sometimes misunderstand what that means.

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of competition sooner. It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to

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be generational or they're going to be that explosive. It

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just means their game is more mature. And that's certainly

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the case for Shane right his game has always been

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more mature. But it doesn't necessarily mean it's elite or

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he's going to be this elite asset and at his

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transition to the NHL has been very clearly rocky. I

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would say he's had some deployment limitations. He hasn't always

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had the most ice time. He's still not even over

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fourteen minutes average time on ice, and part of that

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has been the Krack end, the way they deployed their forwards.

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but he still hasn't reaped the benefit of that. And overall,

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his underlying analytics don't suggest that he's doing very well

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at all. He's built as more of a two way guy,

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and his defensive impact has been pretty underwhelming. He's only

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forty eighth percentile for defense, his offense is thirty fourth percentile.

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Speaker 1: It's just not great.

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Speaker 3: And so the question is is he just a guy

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now or does he have more upside to.

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Speaker 1: Come.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's one hundred and thirty two games into his

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NHL career, I would say that he probably is more

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or less what he is. I think he could get

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up to that fifty point pace guy. I'm not sure

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that he's going to be that much more than that.

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what Shane Wright could be, which is certainly disappointing for

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what a lot of people thought that he could be.

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I think that Lafurnier had that one year where okay,

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maybe he put the seven point pace, but he's settled

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back into the forties and that might be where Shane

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right ends up being. And in terms of this poll,

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I think it's pretty clear you want Josh Norris. I

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think the people have it right here unless you really

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believe that Shane Wright is gonna someday offensively explode, which

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I just don't see it at this point. And I

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watched him play in the HL. He looked too good there,

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or looked head and shoulders above everyone else there. I've

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seen him a lot in the NHL now and it's

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hard to tell whether he looks like just a guy

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because all the crack and players look like just guys,

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or whether he is really that. But I think that

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this is what he is and Josh Norris, when he's healthy,

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that's really the only issue is if he can stay healthy.

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be a fantastic score. He's actually better defensively than you

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might think too. His defensive impact rates out at sixty

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fifth percentile, So you might think Shane Writ's a better

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two way guy defensive guy, I'm not according to evolving

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hockey metrics, So Norris is actually better defensively than he

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is offensively, at least this season. And we know that

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he can be upwards of seventy plus point guy. And

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right now he's rock and point per game in his

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twelve games. And we just did our draft with the

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Keipan Carlson guys and very easily was one of the

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top players selected on his team who's head and shoulders

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above the rest of the guy that are available. So yeah,

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for Shane Wright, but I think that if you could

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trade him for a seventy plus point player, you might

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want to just do that because I'm not sure that

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Shane Wright's going to get there unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he might still have the name value to get

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you something in Inner Dynasty League, gets you somebody who's

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a bigger contributor. Right now, no doubt you could get

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Josh Norris with him in a dynasty league, to be honest,

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but you could probably get somebody who contributes pretty well

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for you right now, Yeah, boy, let's move on to

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the next up and comer for the Seattle Kraken, and

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that would be Berkeley. Catton came into his season with

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a bit less pressure than Shane Wright did, but in

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a similar biographical place. Is right in the sense of

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making that transition from the awkward transition from the WHL

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to the NHL, though at least he was able to

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stay in State for that. After three assists in his

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first five games of the year, he really slump for

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quite a while and then was injured just before the break,

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and then the KRACK and didn't let him go to

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the World Juniors, which I think was somewhat rumored that

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he might. He's playing a third line role with the team. Indeed,

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if he gets more time with Jared mccannon, who's back

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as of our recording, now, that would be nice. I

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don't know what's going on here with is this a

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cat who? What do we make of what Catton's doing?

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is that why? Maybe it's been a little bit more

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uneven or are they just good to bring guys up

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and let him play through it, or maybe it's just

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injury related that he really slowed down after that really

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pretty promising a hot start. He goes up against tij

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Aginla in our poll. We've talked a lot about tig

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in recent episodes, and surprisingly to me, although maybe not

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because Catton did make sure that his hot streak was

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right at the beginning of the year, and of course

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everybody will remember that he had that hot start and

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less so the slump. But Catton is out ahead of Aginla,

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who hasn't yet played in the NHL well in the

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poll sixty six to thirty three percent, Victor, who do

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Speaker 3: I also find it interesting that these two that the

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it's so lopsided here. I Catten was, they were both

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taken in twenty four draft, and Kin was taking two

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picks after Againlas. So some people might say, oh, clearly

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you want to teach more. But I think in this range,

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in the six to ten eleven range, there's usually not

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that much different, and there might be just team preference,

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and the lots happened Againlas's had a lot of injuries

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and Catten's development has accelerated. He's in the NHL this season,

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although it's not going particularly well.

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Speaker 1: He just came back from an injury.

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Speaker 3: But he's averaging twelve and a half minutes a night

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and he's only got five points in twenty four games.

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Not that exciting. His evolving hockey metrics are putrid. His

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overall impact is eighth percentile offense, at nine percentile defense

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at thirty three. It's still way early in his career

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only as six hundred and sixty three minutes to his

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name can't make big opinions. But I think the fact

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that he's already in the NHL a little bit sooner,

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and he's a little bit older than Againla, not a

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huge difference. I think it's surprising that it's that lopsided.

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think he has more offensive upside. Againla is just this

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gamer though, right, and he's I think people are gonna

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get excited about him over the World Juniors as he's

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there and Cadden is eligible to be in this tournament,

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but but he's not because he's in the NHL. So

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which might help you if you wanted to move off

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of him. I don't know why you would. He's having

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a great season and even though he's not playing all

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the games Teja Ginla for Colonna, but he is twenty

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seven points in seventeen games. Is looking pretty good. He's

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got a few points in the World Juniors already. He's

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I think he's the only one of the prospects in

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Seattle who truly can be a one see in all situations.

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And I don't think that's been Ears. I don't think

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that's Shane Wright. I think it might be Cadden, or

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it might just be they don't have a one see,

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but if they do have one, I think it'll be him.

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So I like him a little bit better again La.

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It certainly more seems like a winger, which might be

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easier for him to get top line deployment, but that

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top six is pretty crowded in Utah, so not sure

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when and if that'll happen, so I would prefer Cadden,

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But I actually would like both of these guys. And

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if someone was selling again La, as long as it

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wasn't for a fortune, I'd probably buy. And if you

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were trying to move off of him, I'd definitely be

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trying to get a ton of assets back. So that's

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what I think about those. So I like both of them.

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Speaker 1: Jesse, which isn't going to be the case for all

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of these.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, these are definitely two guys that wanted my roster,

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but yeah, can his performance this year actually has slipped

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a little under my radar because I did still remember

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that hot start and I have been fooled by that,

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but then that in the injury. Moving on to the

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next crack and prospect, it's Yanni Neeman, the second leading

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scorer for Coachella Valley last year. And by the way

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you think of I think of Coachella Valley as like

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a dynasty AHL team. They weren't as good last year

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when Nieman was there, but still reasonable. He seems to

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be Nieman that is in the NHL. Now he is

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in the NHL, he's getting scratched more than my dog

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behind her ears. He's not in Coachella Valley. He is

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playing in the NHL. But now Mason Marchman has gone,

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more opportunities are freeing up in Seattle for prospects to

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play in. And the NHL ranking pole is going to

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put Nieman up against Trek Parasak of the Washington Capitals,

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who was taken two years later and one round earlier

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than Neiman and Parasac a little earlier in the funnel,

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and he is a little bit higher in this poll

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fifty seven to forty three percent. Victor, is that the

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right way to rack and staf these two?

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Speaker 1: There's such different players.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a really interesting one because we

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have someone who's in the NHL, though not necessarily getting

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the best deployment or the best time on ice or

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anything like that. We're seeing a couple of different options

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here with Newman, and then we have Parasak, who is

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clearly a huge offensive talent, but the questions about his

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translatability of his skills has always.

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Speaker 1: Been an issue.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's debatable that Washington has been one

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of the best drafters in the last several years, and

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so anytime they commit to someone. It seems like it's

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been working out, so the fact that they drafted Parasac,

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I think it puts an extra feather in his cap

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in my mind. It is a little bit concerning, though,

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that his point per game pace has been basically slipping,

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and even though he's over a point and a half

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per game in the WHL and he can't be in

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the AHL, no fault of his own, but he's just

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not age eligible. I think that the fact that his

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point pacing the WHL has slowed a little bit makes

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it a little bit hard to say. And I really

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want to see him in the AHL. We just haven't

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had the opportunity yet. So there are different stages.

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Speaker 1: Newman.

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Speaker 3: You watch him play and his feet are heavy. He's

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a really big guy and he doesn't move super well.

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But he's got a canon of a shot, and so

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it will they use him more? Will he get that opportunity,

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I'm not so sure. I think if you're more in

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a more win now situation, you might take Newman, but

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I think I would go Parasack just because he's got

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more upside, even though I have some questions still about

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how translatable his skills are. It makes me a little

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bit worried, but I do think that he's got a

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little bit more upside, and his hockey prospecting has always

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been a little higher than Newman's. So all of that

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to say, I think there's a little bit more have

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a little bit more faith in Parasak, and looking at

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Newman's underlying numbers, they're not so good either. Forty fifth

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percentile for defense, thirty percentile for offense. He's only playing

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just over ten minutes a night, so it's not like

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there's a huge sample size, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Leaning Parasac here. I think I think your Washington Capitals

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are good drafters, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: They've done more with less in the draft than a

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lot of teams have in the recent years. Anyway, moving

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on Ty Nelson, next up for the Kraken. He is

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actually a Coachella Valley still and drafted around after Newman.

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Nelson's still developing at his level. He's a physical, hard

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working guy. His size is not necessarily an asset. He

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has had reasonable number of points in the AHL, but

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that probably makes sense because he's almost twenty two and

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we're going to stack this defenseman up against Ryan Ufko

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of the Nashville Predators, who also is stranded at the

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AHL level, but he was a college graduate, so he

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got there a little bit later. And UFCO wins this

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poll pretty significantly, sixty seven to thirty three percent. Is

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the guy who's been rostering enough Coo in a couple

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of Dynasty leagues this year, frustrated that he can't get

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a crack at the NHL, especially with kind of a

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poor Nashville team. I guess maybe they're not quite as

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poor as they have been. But maybe I'm not the

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guy to ask on what to think of Upgo because

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I've been watching him more closely and waiting for him

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than I have Nelson. But what do you think of

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this comparison between the two? And is UPco really the

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superior prospect to Ty Nelson of the Kraken.

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Speaker 3: I have to say, I've been so frustrated that Nashville

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hasn't given him more of an opportunity. And sometimes you

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see this and you're just like, there must be something

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that I'm missing. There must be something happening at the

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team level, or some personality issue perhaps, or I'm just speculating,

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but it seems like there's something clearly that we're not

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aware of that, the teams are seeing and hearing, and

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maybe it's just as simple as the eye test is

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not matching when you're up close or something like that,

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because it just seems to me like Ufko is doing

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way better and deserves more of an opportunity and he's

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just not getting it.

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Speaker 1: It's really frustrating.

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Speaker 3: He did get a one game last season, and that's

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not a huge sample size, but it seemed like it

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was decent. This season, he's got twenty four points in

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twenty seven games, and it's okay, let's give Hi an opportunity.

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Although you mentioned Nashville is doing a lot better, so

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maybe they don't want to mess with that, but I

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was hoping they'd get an opportunity. Looking at these guys

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in the AHL. This is one of the things I

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love about these Fantasy Hockey Life skater cars. But you

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can see how they're doing, and Ryan Ufko is doing

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way better than ty Nelson in the AHL right now.

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His transition data, his shot generation, his expected goals, his takeaways,

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his puck battles, all that is a lot better than

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what ty Nelson is doing. Some of the play driving

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is a little bit weak for both, but still better.

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For UFCO, so I definitely taking UFCO here. Nelson has

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been someone that I've liked, even though he's a bit

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on the smaller side. He's a real tough, thick defenseman

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who's very strong and doesn't get pushed around even though

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he's slightly undersized. But that hasn't really translated so well

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to the HL, and he has struggled a bit, even

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though he's still hitting everything in sight in the AHL.

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But sometimes that's always not always a good sign of

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good possession numbers. You look at the Hockey Prospecting data

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and UFCO is way higher than Nelson. But no, they

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both graduated the model from now, so that means a

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little bit less, but I think the upside was always

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more for UFKO.

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Speaker 1: I'm sticking with UFKO.

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Speaker 3: And I am just banging the drum for him to

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get an opportunity in the NHL because I think he's

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at least as good as one of those bottom bear

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like he should at least be a six to seven

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kind of guy and get into the line up here

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and there, and hoping he gets a little bit more

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of that opportunity. It's still at some point they I

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was just thinking about this with Another player that I

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did for the Dabber midseason report Sean Ferrell, who's a forward.

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Different situation, but he's the kind of guy where he's

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been in the AHL so long that you just think

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like he's never gonna translate. Ufco isn't quite to that

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point yet. He's had one full seat, he played a

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partial nine games two years ago, and this season is

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his basically second full season in the AHL, so it's

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not to the point where he's past time. But he

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really needs the opportunity soon show what he can do. Otherwise,

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if he spends another season and a half in the AHL,

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we're gonna start saying the same things about him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever gonna happen, and.

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Speaker 3: I hope we don't get to that point because I

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think he deserves an opportunity and I still have the

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faith Jesse and Ryan Lufko.

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Speaker 2: The old boys back in. I always said it's not

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dark yet, but it's getting there. That's what the old

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Farmers would say. Anyway. The next guy up on our

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list Jake O'Brien, who was the number eight pick last

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year and he's burning it up. He's the captain of

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the top team in the Ontario Hockey League top ten

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pick last year. He is the leading scorer on the

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Brainford Bulldogs. He is just a generally excellent offensive player.

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Goals are down a little bit this year from almost

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rather unsustainable rate or a very high rate last year,

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but the assists picked up and he's supposed to be

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more of a playmaker anyway. He is a very good player.

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But in our poll we put him up against Anton Frondell,

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the Chicago Blackhawks pick who went five earlier in is

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burning it up in the World Juniors to date for Sweden,

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and Frondell wins over Jake O'Brien in rather a route here.

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Maybe I don't know. I guess I would take Frondell

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over O'Brien, but I don't know that the disparities as

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wide as seventy nine to twenty one percent as it

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is here a big blowout. What do you think of

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these two victor I think Jacobrien is that this is

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where he's being considered with people. Maybe it's time to

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go target him somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good point. And if you

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just based it on the World Junior performance, Frendelle is

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going to walk away with this because Jacobrien didn't even

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make the team, which is crazy maybe to some people,

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but when you think about this and when you look

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into it, it really makes a lot of sense. And

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let's been talking about on some other podcasts, But the

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thing about Jacobrien is that he really needs to play

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a very specific style. He is definitely more of a playmaker.

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He's also not someone who seeks out contact. He's not

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someone who is necessarily driving to the inside as much

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or winning board battles. He has a very specific type

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of situation that he excels in and right now the

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situation in Branford is just perfect for him and he's

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killing it, putting up tons of points, and that's something

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he can do. But he's first of all, he's not

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someone for fantasy that's going to put up priffs at all.

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His bash is just awful, thirty fifth percentile for bash,

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but he does he is going to get a lot

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of assists. Someone who's not going to shoot a lot.

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He's not going to score a lot of goals, but

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he should be racking up the assists in some ways,

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probably a bit like our Timmy Panaren. I don't know

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that he quite has that points up side, but that's

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the kind of guy you're looking at. But as a center,

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you really want him to do more, and the Canadians

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are so stacked at stenter they want guys that could

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do other things. On the one hand, you don't necessarily

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want to take his World Junior snub as a sign

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that he's going to be awful or anything. But on

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the other hand, it does point to his lack of

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versatility and the fact that he needs a very specific

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role to excel. The nice thing about the team, the

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NHL team that he's on, the Krakend, they have a

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lot of wingers and guys that could compliment him pretty well.

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I don't think they have the high end finishers that

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he would need, but maybe they can get some of those,

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and those are easier to acquire. All in all, in

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my article, I did talk about selling Jacobrian, mainly because

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I don't think his stock will ever be higher than

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right now. He's leading the OHL in points, he's doing,

476
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,119
is on one of the best teams. They're an absolute wagon.

477
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,880
They might win the Memorial Cup. His stock is going

478
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,440
to be high, so that's a good time to sell

479
00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:48,960
him because I'm not sure that his real life fantasy

480
00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,279
potential in the NHL will live up to what he's

481
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,039
selling or what he's projected as right now. Not that

482
00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:57,680
you should sell him for nothing, you should get an

483
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,480
absolute haul for him, but I think that I would

484
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:01,319
rather do that then wait and see because I'm a

485
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,480
little skeptical to see exactly how it would work out.

486
00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:06,359
I still think he could work out. I still see

487
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,880
his upside is maybe like a Matt Barzil kind of type,

488
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,880
maybe a little bit on the low end. There's not

489
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,839
his dynamic of a skater, but similar kind of playmaker

490
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,720
with lack of shots, lack of bash, and for me,

491
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,240
in a lot of my leagues, Matt Barzil is extremely

492
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,079
frustrating player to roster. So he's not necessarily the type

493
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,759
that I like to roster, but he could depending on

494
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:27,720
your format, if he's a good one to roster, that

495
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:31,480
could work. Frondell, on the other hand, has been great

496
00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:34,160
at the World Juniors. I wanted to shout out Ryan

497
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:38,400
mah who's the one of the scouts for Dabber Prospects,

498
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,079
and he and a few of the other guys have

499
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,039
put together some tracking data for the World Juniors, and

500
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,440
one of the players with the biggest impact is Anton Frondella.

501
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:53,440
He is eighth right now in terms of all around

502
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,400
impact on the game of all the players in this tournament,

503
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,119
and he's got a wicked shot. One of the things

504
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,039
you can see from my Fantasy Hockey Life player card

505
00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:05,759
is that Frondell doesn't excel at a lot of things,

506
00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:08,400
like he's not the best play driver, he's not the

507
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,000
best at winning puck battles, he's not the best at transition.

508
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,440
But his shot is elite, and I think if he

509
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,079
can round out some of those other things a little

510
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,119
bit better, which I think he can, he could be

511
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:20,839
a more impactful player. But he's mainly going to be

512
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,279
a light on for his shot, and they got some

513
00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:25,559
pretty good playmakers there in Chicago, so I think when

514
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:27,400
he arrives he could work out pretty well. And I

515
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,920
would definitely rather have Frondell between these two. So I

516
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,119
like that there's also a bit more bash there, although

517
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,319
Frondell is not the bashiest guy, but he does shoot

518
00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:37,920
a lot, so you got that going for you. But yeah,

519
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,279
this one I think is pretty accurate, and some people

520
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,000
might be surprised based on what they know about Jacobrian,

521
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:45,400
but I think when you step back and look at

522
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,240
the context on what they're going to be in the NHL.

523
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:49,279
I think it's pretty clear you want Frondell here.

524
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:55,279
Speaker 2: Next up, we got Blake Fiddler of the Seattle Kraken.

525
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,440
He is a big defenseman. He'll be plenty big enough

526
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,920
to play. And then, like some other fellas, he has

527
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,799
the advantage of being drafted by the current regime instead

528
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:05,920
of last one because he was taken in twenty twenty five.

529
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,799
That's always a danger for prospects when you were when

530
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,519
you were drafted by the last regime. Scoring is up

531
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:18,319
this year on my favorite WHL team so far, the

532
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,119
Edmonton Oil Kings, as we know, and Fiddler was born

533
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,000
in Nashville to a Predators player. He's got the jeans,

534
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:29,720
the bloodlines, so to speak, and he is going to

535
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:33,200
go up in our poll against Sawyer Minio of the

536
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,319
Vancouver Canucks, who was taken two years earlier. Fiddler was

537
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,200
taken in the early second, Minio was taken in the

538
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720
late third. But Fidler comes out ahead in this poll

539
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:48,000
sixty one to thirty nine percent. Victor, what do you

540
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:49,319
think of this comparison?

541
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vernon Fidler one of the one of the favorites there.

542
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,480
He was a I remember watching him in the NHL,

543
00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:01,440
and this is his son, so that that's a that's

544
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,920
the bloodlines there are strong, and Blake is someone who

545
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,079
I'm not sure is ever going to be as good

546
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,039
in fantasy as he is in real life. He's a

547
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,839
really good skaters. I think he'll be a good defensive defenseman.

548
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,960
This season, he's gotten more power play time and he's

549
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,160
been able to put up a few more points, but

550
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,160
I still don't think he's ever going to be the

551
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,039
guy in the NHL who commands his power play time

552
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,559
and gets a lot of points. I think he might

553
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,160
just be a good transition guy who gets some decent

554
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,480
points off the rush and can play an effective middle

555
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,039
pair middle to bottom pair, which is not super exciting,

556
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,839
but I think that might be a little bit more

557
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:42,559
exciting than Sorry, MINEO. I think both of these guys

558
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:46,039
are probably and I would lean Fiddler, but I don't

559
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:49,599
think either of them are like super exciting, and I'm

560
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:51,400
not sure we should even talk about them more so

561
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,759
tike Fiddler, but frankly, if you could get anything for

562
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,759
both of them, I would probably do that.

563
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,319
Speaker 2: H dear, that's disappointing. Victor, let's take a break and

564
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:11,599
recover and come back to talk some more prospects are

565
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:17,359
selfish ho right, selfish fucking break it.

566
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: Down, skate you fuck don't got head that it's still

567
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,200
gonna be there when you've got jumped on.

568
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: Taking coast to coast.

569
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking for angles, but still shock bad bounce. That's

570
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,119
a good breakaway.

571
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:35,279
Speaker 3: Gotta get the bounced boys.

572
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,559
Speaker 2: Back moving from Seattle to New Jersey. But before we do, Victor.

573
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,720
In addition to the Fantasy Hockey Life discord that people

574
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,640
can get a free link to by email and Fantasy

575
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,359
Hockey Life at gmail dot com, there are other things

576
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,960
that we like to let people know about. What are they.

577
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of good things that you can get access to,

578
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,079
bonus content and extra great stuff. You can do that

579
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,559
at our website at Fantasy Hockey Life dot com. And

580
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:59,720
there's some hidden bonus content if you want through Patreon

581
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:01,759
that you can get access to. The ranks, the tiers,

582
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:03,599
the list. I'm updating all of them right now. At

583
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,000
the end of the year and after the World Juniors

584
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,039
there'll be a big update for a lot of the players.

585
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:13,279
I like to take into context things that are happening,

586
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,480
but I don't want to overreact too much to just

587
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:17,799
one or two weeks worth of data, so I like

588
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,119
to look at a longer span, and after a few

589
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:23,680
months of the season is typically enough to make some decisions.

590
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,640
And so that's all happening right now. You can get

591
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,880
access to patron Cast, you can get access to playing

592
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,599
in the Tidy, the Tier Dynasty, so lots of great stuff.

593
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,680
Go over to patreon dot com slash Fantasy Hockey Life.

594
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,559
You want to check that out for sure.

595
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: Goalie fight time. We've got a devil's goalie up in

596
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:47,279
this business, Mikhil Yagorov. He is the Boston University's goalie.

597
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,200
A performance there isn't quite what it was last year.

598
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:54,000
Boston University, of course, is a pretty stacked team in

599
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:58,000
the NCAA. But this year you Goorov has dropped thirty

600
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,079
five points of save percentage in about the same number

601
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,319
of games with the same number shot totals. That is

602
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,559
a little bit misleading, though, because last year he split

603
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:09,359
starts about fifty to fifty. This year he's starting pretty

604
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,079
much every game. He's been worked a lot harder, basically,

605
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,559
but you Goov is still only twenty years old or

606
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,839
just turning twenty years old. So it's pretty impressive to

607
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,240
be doing what he's doing at the NCAA but basically

608
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,240
playing very well for a good team. The NCAA are

609
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:28,799
the NHL ranking poll is going to put him up

610
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:32,880
against Canada's goalie for the World Juniors, Carter George, who

611
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,640
is basically the same age, was drafted basically in the

612
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,440
same place in the draft the second half of the

613
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,079
second round in twenty twenty four, and he's playing up

614
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,079
in the OHL regularly, maybe a little bit more name

615
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,119
value there on the LA Kings, and he wins the

616
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:55,039
matchup here against you Goorov fifty eight to forty two percent.

617
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,759
Impressive to me that you Goov is going to stick

618
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:00,480
this close to the guy who's got such a prominent

619
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,319
role is the Canada World Juniors goalie in a public vote?

620
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,799
Is the competition between these two close? Or is there

621
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,640
any way to know because they get their goalies.

622
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,319
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who actually knows the answer to this question,

623
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,039
but I'm sure there are plenty of people who think

624
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:16,440
they know the answer to that question. I think that

625
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:20,640
it's probably more unclear to most of us, but I

626
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:23,480
have some opinions, and I do think that it's a

627
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:26,119
good feather in the cap. Obviously for George to be

628
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,759
in the World Juniors, and obviously you go Off in

629
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,920
the Russian situation isn't going to be there. But he

630
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,440
is someone who I have a little bit higher. Just

631
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,519
looking at my goalie ranks, I have him sixteenth and

632
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,680
I have Carter George in thirty fourth, so I have

633
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:42,079
quite a.

634
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:44,799
Speaker 1: Bit more faith in you go Off. And actually I am.

635
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,559
Speaker 3: Due to graduate a few of these prospects because I'm

636
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,720
looking at the top top ones. Here a scar off

637
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,680
the style Wolf Falstead could check off night. These guys

638
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,079
need to be moved out because they're all in the

639
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,799
NHL now, so probably going to look at be looking

640
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,759
at a top ten Mikhel you go Off closer to

641
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,880
the ten spot. But I like him more even though

642
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,680
he has, as you said, progressed a little bit with

643
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,880
Boston University this year. But his goals expected goals above

644
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,720
goal conceded, which is like expected goals for goalies, is

645
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:20,319
still really good for Boston University. They're just not as

646
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,079
quite as good of an overall team as they have

647
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,160
been in the past, so there's that. But I do

648
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:28,039
like him a little bit more. Not that I don't

649
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,680
like Carter George. I think that he's fine. He's not

650
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,160
on the best OHL team, so that's been a little bit.

651
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,319
Speaker 1: Down for him.

652
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:40,119
Speaker 3: And even though his numbers don't look great at the

653
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:42,319
World Juniors, yet they were really good last year even

654
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:43,759
though the team was bad. This year the team is

655
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:46,359
good and he's winning, but his numbers are bad. But

656
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,319
I still think he's a competitive goalie and I think

657
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,160
he's going to be there at the end and provide

658
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,839
them with enough support to win the gold medal. That's

659
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,480
the prediction that I have. You'll probably know close to

660
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:58,519
be closer to knowing that by the time this comes out,

661
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,079
But I have faith that he'll get them there. But

662
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680
between these two, I would actually like you go Off

663
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,200
a little bit better. And I wonder how much of

664
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:11,079
that bias of the chl Rs and Canadians are here

665
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,200
on this, but I think that they're pretty close and

666
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,119
the pull isn't too far off, so I think that

667
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,400
is probably reasonable. But yeah, give me Mikhail you go Off.

668
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,279
Jesse not to be confused with Igor yougor Off, who

669
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:28,160
is a Calgary Flames goalie prospect and has a cooler name,

670
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,200
but isn't as good of a.

671
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: Goalie Igor, son of Igor. All right, Yeah, Victor's that's

672
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,960
good to know, and you go off is taller. He

673
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,480
does have that going for him and that matters for goalies.

674
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,599
Next up Victor a guy who I'm pretty sure. I'm

675
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:46,359
pretty sure you drafted him in our draft. It went

676
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,960
up last week. Shimonemech, defenceman. My first thought on this

677
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,799
guy is he's still a prospect, but by the standards

678
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,799
of the one hundred game criteria, he is, and after

679
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,559
some slow starts in prior seasons, he's been relatively a

680
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:03,440
scoring fool this year, but recently was injured out a while,

681
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,039
hopefully coming back pretty soon here as we're recording. This

682
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:09,960
a tough competition in that blue line, tough competition to

683
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,840
be a lead defenseman on the New Jersey Devils, but

684
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,519
as the number two overall pick in the past, he's

685
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,639
going to get the opportunity. He is moving up. He's

686
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480
was up to the second pair plane there, even starting

687
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,480
to get reasonable power play Tom and Ice, which on

688
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,199
a team with Luke Cues and Dougie Hamilton is some

689
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,320
pretty good stuff. And the question is the awaited Nemach

690
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,679
breakthrough upon us. In our poll, he went up against

691
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,280
our Tom Levshunoff, who maybe has a little less encumbrance

692
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,079
to the role of top defenseman for the Chicago Blackhawks.

693
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,639
He was also drafted number two two years after an

694
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,159
Emach was and as it turns out, left Shunoff wins

695
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,119
the poll that NHL ranking put up fifty five to

696
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,360
forty five percent. Is this funnel bias that we've seen

697
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,480
more of Nemech? Is it is Leb Shunoff the long

698
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:01,599
term nance? What do you think about this comparison? What

699
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:02,639
do you think is somemone Nemach?

700
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,159
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna make the phrase funnel bias a thing,

701
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,440
and I'm gonna know it because I love that phrase. Yeah,

702
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,760
I think that this is interesting looking at the numbers here.

703
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,639
Remember there was some crazy podcaster that took Sam Marenzell

704
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,400
and a billion drafts this year and that hasn't worked

705
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,239
out quite so well.

706
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: He's back in the minors now.

707
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 3: All signs pointed towards Samrazello maybe having the inside track there,

708
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,480
and he did have some pretty good metrics at the

709
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,440
end of the last season. It just didn't quite go

710
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:33,519
so well for him this season. And they gave him

711
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,320
every opportunity it seemed like to figure it out, and

712
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,039
it just did. And of course this environment in Chicago

713
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:42,239
is pretty rough. All that to say, I think the

714
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,159
inside track for top power play and top role in

715
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,719
Chicago is certainly back for ARTMLI Schoonoff, but he hasn't

716
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,360
necessarily been great either, and quite frankly, he could be

717
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,480
in a similar situation. But at least he's getting a

718
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:00,119
few more points, he's getting the top power play times,

719
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:02,280
got non power play points, and he's got a thirty

720
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,360
nine point pace, so all that's looking a little bit better.

721
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,840
But if you look under the hood, his impact metrics

722
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,920
are just terrible. He's second percentile for even strength defense,

723
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,039
which means that they're maybe a handful of players who

724
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,519
are worse than him in the entire NHL, which is

725
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:20,599
not great. I don't know how much of that is

726
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,239
the Chicago factor and how bad they've been, especially with

727
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,559
Badard out, But his offensive impacts are closer to neutral

728
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,960
fifty to fifty, and Nemitch has had certainly some up

729
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,960
and down time he's been back in the minors and

730
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,039
then now has had more NHL time, But his metrics

731
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:40,119
at least offensively have been incredible, even though defensively he

732
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:42,559
seems to struggle a bit, not quite as much as Liftschuenoff,

733
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:46,000
but the Devils are a better team. I think that

734
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:49,079
I'm still gonna I'll stick with the people here, and

735
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:51,199
I think lift Schuenoff does have more upside. I think

736
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,039
he's who I would take, but I think that it's

737
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:56,360
actually probably closer than people might think. And I think

738
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,159
Nemich is coming around and figuring it out. But I

739
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:02,239
still like the upside more for Liftschoonoff. I think he

740
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,360
has the inside track there. As you mentioned, there's less

741
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:08,760
blocking him in Chicago, whereas Nemich, I'm just not sure

742
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,440
that he's ever really going to get the top deployment

743
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,800
with Hughes there, and I don't see going anywhere unless

744
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,079
all the Hughes brothers decide to go to the Red

745
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,239
Wings or something crazy like that to be closer to

746
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,000
home once the once their deals are all up at

747
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,719
the same time. But I think that they're sticking in

748
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,159
New Jersey for a while, and so Nemach's path is

749
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,320
going to be pretty pretty limited, though I think he

750
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,559
is getting a little bit better than some I think

751
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,519
so maybe the advice here is to try to buy

752
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:39,079
on simoemch before the rise really comes. That might be

753
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,559
the best advice here.

754
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,079
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Next up are Sinny Gritzchik of

755
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,760
the New Jersey Devils. I think he actually also was

756
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,440
picked in our Keeping Carlson Crossover draft that was this

757
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,159
past week. It was a long wait for this right

758
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,719
werner to come over from the KHL, six years after

759
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,000
he was. It feels like when I pull my winter

760
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:05,679
coat out of the closet and I haven't worn it

761
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,519
all year and there's like a ten dollars bill in

762
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,400
there and it's oh Man, free money, and it's just

763
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Ben in there all year. I just didn't know it

764
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,679
was there. I feel like the Devil's probably thought the

765
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,519
same thing. We drafted this guy in the fifth rown

766
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:18,719
in twenty nineteen. Now he shows up all these shirts

767
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,400
later and he's pretty good for us. He actually, if

768
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,519
you look at some of the advanced stats on Hockey Viz,

769
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:27,119
he's second on the team in finishing danger at only

770
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,199
five on five, he's taking basically close up shots behind

771
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,000
only Dougie Hamilton. Playing at a second line skill level.

772
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,880
Was gritzchuk the defense is also decent for him. It's

773
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,599
positive he's getting third line minutes. Maybe if the Quinn

774
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,320
Hughes thing had happened and relieved New Jersey of some

775
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,760
of their forward depth, it might have cleared up some

776
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,920
space for Gritzik to get up further in the lineup.

777
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,719
But that didn't happen. And also he's missed some time

778
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:59,079
to injury. So are Timmy Gritzchuk and are Sendi Gritzchuk?

779
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:02,559
And he goes up against a guy who, again you drafted,

780
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,440
and you went on your way to draft in the

781
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,400
Keeping Carlson Draft, Emmitt Finnie of the Detroit Red Wings.

782
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,679
I was ready to say, what do you what is this, Victor?

783
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,280
Why would we want? But Finny's sick, kicking butt for

784
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,280
Detroit a seventh round pick back in twenty twenty three.

785
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,800
But he's he's doing well for himself in the NHL.

786
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,480
The people voted, and our Senny Gritzik does win this

787
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:28,639
poll sixty two to thirty eight percent. Phinny's probably a

788
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,320
nice story this year, but because you got to hand

789
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,760
it to him, but the people are right that Gritzik

790
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,199
is basically better for the long term victor.

791
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,079
Speaker 3: I think so it's funny how maybe a year or

792
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:44,760
two ago we wouldn't have thought anything about either of

793
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,079
these guys. Certainly, Finny came out of nowhere. It's also

794
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,880
funny that as we're recording this, both players have exactly

795
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,320
thirty nine point paces, so they're both the same. But

796
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,320
if you look at the underlying metrics for the two,

797
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,280
there's a very different story. As you alluded to, Sidny

798
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,320
Gritzik is seventy one percentile overall and seventy three for

799
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,599
offense and seventy two for offense for defense, his impacts

800
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:09,039
on both sides of the puck are pretty great, and

801
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:11,360
I don't think that's just the team he plays for

802
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,519
who's doing pretty well. They went through a real struggle

803
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,760
this season which acques out and they were not always

804
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,599
so good, but he has been very effective. He also

805
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:22,039
has a longer track record of being effective because he

806
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,320
was really good in the KHL for five seasons before

807
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,400
coming four seasons before coming over, so it's not like

808
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400
that came out of nowhere for Finny. It definitely was

809
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,440
a sharper rise, and he certainly was good in the

810
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,719
WHL after being drafted and raised his stock, and his

811
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,519
last season he was really good, but it's a shorter

812
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:44,320
track record, I guess, I would say, and his underlying

813
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,119
metrics are quite a bit worse. He's thirty seven percent

814
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:49,760
HELE for offense and thirty six percent HELE for defense.

815
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,440
So all that to say, I think that Finny could

816
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,360
still be decent. And I did take him in that draft,

817
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,119
but that was and I did take him first on

818
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,199
the team, but that was because they were very few

819
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:03,400
good options left at that point in terms of strong

820
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,760
teams to choose from. But I think that he has

821
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,840
some staying power. I don't think he's completely a flash

822
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,880
in the pan. I think he he might not always

823
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,719
hit the highs that he has, like at the beginning

824
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,639
of this season. But I think Finny is a bit

825
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:15,440
more for real than maybe some people are giving him

826
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,760
credit for. But I think our Senny Gritzik has a

827
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,440
much longer track record, and I think he doesn't necessarily

828
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,239
need to be with top line players in order to

829
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:28,519
be productive, so long term, I would actually take Arseny Gritzik.

830
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:33,559
Speaker 2: Yep, for sure. Let's move on to the next fella,

831
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:38,280
Seamus Casey. He is next up, another yet another defenseman.

832
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,719
We're rounding up all the usual defensive prospects for New Jersey,

833
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,280
and he's a forgotten middle child. I feel like he's

834
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,719
who's the middle one? Was a jan Jan was the

835
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,159
middle one?

836
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: Right?

837
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: He going back? He was very good at Michigan. He

838
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,239
didn't watch the Brady Bunch, Victor come on man. He

839
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,719
was very good at Michigan. Marcia and Marsha very good

840
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,760
at Michigan and in the World Juniors for the USA.

841
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,639
But the last two years he's alternated between the AHL

842
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:06,159
and NHL. Now he's dealing with some lower body injuries,

843
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,440
hasn't made as much of an impact, although he scores

844
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:13,320
reasonably well when he's done in Utica. In the AHL,

845
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,639
he is going up against Tristan Luno, who was drafted

846
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,920
just a couple of picks after him in the same draft.

847
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,639
They're roughly the same age and Luno of course being

848
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,920
the Ducks runner up and actually not the same scoring

849
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,119
base this year. He was a very good scorer last year,

850
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:33,079
but not scoring particularly well this year. But Tristan Luno

851
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:36,519
versus Seamus Casey in the poll fifty three to forty

852
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:39,920
seven percent in favor of Casey. Is it a mid

853
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,679
off between Casey and Luno here? Victor or which one

854
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:44,360
of these guys you.

855
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: Like actually definitely know better of these two?

856
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: Casey is this is a problem, I think, in my opinion,

857
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,840
when you draft players like this who are offensive specialist

858
00:42:56,039 --> 00:43:01,079
in terms of their skill set, and he's someone who's

859
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,079
never really been that effective at even strength. He's always

860
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,599
been this power play guy, and in college he had

861
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:07,599
this specialist role.

862
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:08,639
Speaker 1: It was really good at it.

863
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: But you have to be good enough at even strength

864
00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:14,079
to get that time and to get that responsibility, and

865
00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:16,239
I don't think that he ever has been, and I'm

866
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,519
not sure that he ever will be, quite frankly, so

867
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,639
that's the issue. He has been decent at the AHL,

868
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:24,440
and we have seen a couple of instances, especially at

869
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,000
the beginning of last season, where he was came out

870
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:28,719
on fire and had a few points in the first

871
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,599
game or two or whatever, but he ended up with

872
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:34,039
only eight points all season in fourteen games. And I

873
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:35,360
know some people look at that and say, wow, I

874
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,639
look at that potential, but the reality is that away

875
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:41,559
from the puck and in his own zone, he's definitely

876
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,440
more of a struggle and you can see that a

877
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,800
bit with some of his HL numbers. And I did

878
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,960
get to see Tristan Luno live when I went to

879
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,280
a San Diego goals game, and he definitely looked solid.

880
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,400
He looked like, not necessarily like he was way too

881
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,199
good for that league, but he looked like he was

882
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,119
really good in that game, and he looked like he

883
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:00,760
knew what he was doing, look like he could handle

884
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,920
himself at a higher level. He's also had some injury issues,

885
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,480
and so that's part of I think the reason why

886
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,880
maybe he hasn't gotten the opportunity. But also now the

887
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,360
Ducks are good, so is he gonna actually get it?

888
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,000
Who knows? It definitely seemed with Ryan similar to Ryan Ufgo.

889
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:20,280
It's like, why hasn't this guy gotten more of an opportunity?

890
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,679
You wonder that maybe there's a little bit more to that.

891
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:25,800
He did get seven games two years ago, in six

892
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,880
games last year in the NHL, hasn't gotten any this

893
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,280
year so far and hasn't had a particularly productive season.

894
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,079
But I think that he's someone who I could see

895
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,400
finding a more regular role than Seamus Casey. Shamus Casey

896
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,519
just needs to be like a Shane Gossis Bear third pairing,

897
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:45,199
top power play kind of guy, and a kind of

898
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,800
an insulated role, and not a lot of teams want

899
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,159
to do that for someone who's not great at even strength.

900
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:52,519
And I think that's the kind of situation Seamus Casey needs,

901
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:55,679
and New Jersey definitely doesn't need that from him. They

902
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,519
need different types of players, So I feel like they

903
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:01,000
need to move him, and maybe in a different situation

904
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,639
he could be okay, But I just not really sure

905
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:07,760
that Seamus Casey is a full time regular NHLer quite frankly,

906
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,679
and so for that reason, I'll take Luno.

907
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. To continue my analogy, You've got Simon Nimitch, the

908
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,320
guy who's been there longer. He's the He's the jan Or,

909
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,719
he's the Marsha Brady. We got jan who's the middle child,

910
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
who is a Seamous Casey. And then we have the

911
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:28,559
youngest little Cindy, Anton Salaiev, which that fits perfectly, the

912
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,679
little tiny girl versus the giant man child that is

913
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,719
Anton Salaiev of the New Jersey Devil's defensive court, big fella.

914
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,400
He continues to simmer over in the KHL. The fighting

915
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,039
Torpedoes don't give him big ice time. Over in the KHL.

916
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,679
He does not getting much ice time this year and

917
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,119
definitely not scoring, but his contract ends this year, so

918
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:53,440
he'll probably come to the US after that. That's one

919
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,719
of those things that will suppress your playing time, the

920
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,039
cagel of they know you're on the way out now.

921
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,920
The thing with Salaia is he's never had a scoring role.

922
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,920
This is not a guy who's scored a whole lot.

923
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,360
He's real big, he might be real good at defense,

924
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,440
but you're not really looking for him to score a

925
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,880
whole bunch. So it's hard to see a non bash

926
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,840
way that he's going to be relevant and fantasy hockey

927
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,280
for US in the future. We're going to put him

928
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,760
up in this poll with a guy who was drafted

929
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,960
very highly as well, but two years earlier, in David Yuricek.

930
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:26,079
Of course, we've talked a ton about Eurracheck over the years.

931
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:29,000
He's now with the Minnesota wild and he really hasn't

932
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:32,039
been putting up numbers with the wild Eather. In fact,

933
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:35,440
the first fifteen games this year no points, so that's

934
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,280
not a great sign. And not even scoring when he's

935
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,920
down in Iowa in the AHL. This is going up

936
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,719
to the pole, does it? It feels like guys who

937
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,119
have very good name recognition probably not as much fantasy impact.

938
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,719
So I have does win this poll fifty one to

939
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,360
forty nine percent, just barely the post hype sleeper who

940
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,039
is irreparably buried under Quinn Hughes in the power play

941
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,199
ranks versus the the as yet not seen giant sleigh

942
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,960
of the New Jersey Devils.

943
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,599
Speaker 3: Who you got, Victor, Yeah, I've been such a David

944
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:11,599
Yearchech believer over the years. He has really struggled in

945
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:16,679
the NHL to pivot, to turn to backskate and defend basically,

946
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,000
and his offense just hasn't really been that good to

947
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,559
make up for all of that. So he has really

948
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:25,599
struggled to translate to the NHL. And it's been no

949
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different in Minnesota, even on a really good team as

950
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it was in Columbus. So it definitely makes you think

951
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,559
it's more the player than the situation. And as you said,

952
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going down to Iowa and the AHL hasn't really accelerated

953
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:41,320
his development as much as you would hope. And except

954
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,159
for that first season in the AHL in Columbus or

955
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:47,280
in Cleveland for the Columbus organization where he had a

956
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,079
ton of points, he hasn't really followed that up in

957
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,599
the AHL, and so it's starting to look more and

958
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,039
more like he might just be a tweener or like

959
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:57,400
a guy who can't quite hack it in the NHL.

960
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,840
So it seems like he's gonna need some skating work.

961
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:03,079
He might need some off season work to figure that out.

962
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:05,880
On the other hand, Anton Sealif has never been a

963
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guy who has gotten any points.

964
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: So if you're in a league that rewards.

965
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 3: Like other things, just being out there time on ice

966
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:15,679
kind of thing, then Anti Saliv may be your guy.

967
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,280
But otherwise I'm not sure he's going to be that

968
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,679
helpful either, and I think he might be the kind

969
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,920
of guy who you sell. In fact, I think that

970
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,719
was my advice in the article is I would probably

971
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,480
sell slive and see what you can get, because he's

972
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,360
someone who for sure is going to be an NHL

973
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,960
or he's a great skater, he's a good defender, he

974
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:35,239
just doesn't do anything out there. Reminds me a little

975
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,559
bit of pick your guy who's out there who's really

976
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,960
good at cardio sessions and doesn't really do much. Brendan

977
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,679
Carlo might be an example. Plays a lot of minutes,

978
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,559
good defender, but doesn't really do anything. In fantasy so

979
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:48,400
unless you're getting rewarded. I do have a couple of

980
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,159
leagues where time on ice is rewarded. Okay, he'll get

981
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:53,320
you some of that. They'll get you maybe a shot

982
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,079
here or there, head or a block, but he's not

983
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:57,639
going to be very good for bash, and he's certainly

984
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:01,199
not going to be so good for points. Actually he

985
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,119
wasn't very good for bash, but for some reason this

986
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:05,000
year his bash has actually improved.

987
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,559
Speaker 1: So there is a little bit.

988
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: More hope for Anti Salaiev to give you some bash.

989
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,679
But I don't think that the points are really gonna come.

990
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,320
He's never really been a scorer. In fact, every time

991
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,559
I talk about Salai If I look up his KHL

992
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:20,760
stats just to see and he has played one hundred

993
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,800
and sixty five KHL games and has twenty five points.

994
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,519
That is not the track record of someone who scores.

995
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:29,960
And so between these two it's a really tough choice.

996
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:32,920
I probably would take Salaiev just because he will be

997
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,559
in nhlor and you can probably get something for that,

998
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,280
and maybe someone will keep believing that he can score points.

999
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,159
And unfortunately it just doesn't seem like it's gonna work

1000
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:44,760
out for David yirchek. But while we're talking about ear check,

1001
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,519
I just wanted to mention that his brother Adam had

1002
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:49,440
an incredible goal at the Wold Juniors and if you

1003
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,760
didn't see it, go look at it. He took a pass,

1004
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,760
put it between his legs and scored for the game

1005
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,559
winner and overtime.

1006
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: It was awesome. So maybe there's hope for your check.

1007
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: The lesser, it's always the lesser, it's the younger brother.

1008
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:07,960
How about Lenny Hamanajo his first year in North America,

1009
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:10,440
he's acquitting himself pretty well. Ten points in his last

1010
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,719
ten games at press time, tremendous score in legal, reasonably sized,

1011
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:17,920
smart right winger. Feels like he got deployment with some

1012
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,039
very skilled line mates, or if he got some deployment

1013
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:22,960
with skilled line mates, he could blow up. And I

1014
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,760
should say haman Naho. He's doing that at the AHL.

1015
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,599
He's not doing that at the NHL level, but he

1016
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,159
he's doing reallysmably a lot for himself. We put him

1017
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:35,280
up against Jesse keiskan In because it's got to be

1018
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,920
finished on finished violence in our Mason Black NHL ranking poll,

1019
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:43,400
and it's a dead heat. Keiskanen versus Hami Naho is

1020
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:47,559
fifty to fifty guy. The guys went in basically the

1021
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,480
same part of the twenty twenty three draft Keiskan into

1022
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:53,840
scoring well in Liga this year. But again, Amin Naho

1023
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:56,639
of the Devils has come over to North America. Who

1024
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:59,159
you got here, Victor? Who? Which these guys are? A

1025
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,119
spider Man meme? If you just look at some of

1026
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:03,679
these surface stats, but I know you'll know something under

1027
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:04,199
the surface.

1028
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1029
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 3: I always think it's funny when it ends in a

1030
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,760
dead even fifty to fifty like that. It's okay, Come on,

1031
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:14,360
someone just make the deciding vote. If you saw a

1032
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,760
poll like that, wouldn't you put in a vote?

1033
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,679
Speaker 1: Come on, people, let's get.

1034
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:20,599
Speaker 2: Some more lit for none of the above. Just show

1035
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:22,880
up and just Victor Nunio is superior to both of

1036
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,679
these guys.

1037
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,559
Speaker 1: That is something you would do. Huh.

1038
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,199
Speaker 3: Just just vote for a third party just so it

1039
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:32,559
stays like that. Come on, yes, let's pick a winner. Yeah,

1040
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:34,760
between these two. I do Ho a little bit better.

1041
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,639
I have liked him a little bit better. I think

1042
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,760
his upside, at least some of his track record is

1043
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,000
a little bit better. Right now, it's looking a little

1044
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,960
bit more like Kiskanen is having a little bit better

1045
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:47,199
season in Liga. It'd be nice if we could compare

1046
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,400
more apples to apples. I think that they're pretty similar.

1047
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,079
I'm not sure that there's too much difference between the two.

1048
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:56,320
I do think that I like the situation there for

1049
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,880
Hamanahu a little bit better. I saw him in Gritzchak

1050
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,400
being having similar tunity. Clearly get Chick won that battle

1051
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,880
and is doing a lot better in the NHL. I

1052
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,199
still think Hamanaho can get there, at least to some extent,

1053
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,440
so I would probably would lean him, even though as

1054
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,119
this poll suggests, they're pretty similar, and probably want to

1055
00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:19,400
just look elsewhere for some big offensive production. I like

1056
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,079
that Hamanahu is here and doing a little bit more

1057
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:25,599
in the AHL. We'll see if Kissinen comes over and

1058
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:28,239
what he can do. But I'm not sure that either

1059
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,840
one of them are ever going to be like super

1060
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,880
valuable in fantasy, but as decent depth options, you could

1061
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,239
do worse.

1062
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,199
Speaker 2: Victor. That is our full run through the prospects that

1063
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:43,760
we've highlighted from the New Jersey Devils and the Seattle Crack,

1064
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,519
and any last wise words for people before we get

1065
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:48,320
out of here today.

1066
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: No Hopefully by the time you're hearing this, you've enjoyed

1067
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,599
the World Juniors and looking forward to some new year content.

1068
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,360
If you have some ideas of things you want us

1069
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,880
to cover, then let us know. But we're excited to

1070
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,400
keep doing this in at twenty twenty.

1071
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 2: Six, absolutely, and you'll probably be hearing something soon from

1072
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,360
us in the near future on more on the World Juniors.

1073
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,159
So thank you for listening. We'll be right back to um.

1074
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,320
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1075
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,760
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1076
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,679
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1077
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,840
leagues and it's ah, there's going to be a couple months.

1078
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,679
We can't make trades because we have to wait until

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00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:33,639
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00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,079
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1081
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:38,039
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1082
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:41,960
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1083
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,679
I customize it. You want your rookie eligibility and hockey

1084
00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:47,400
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1085
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,480
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1086
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,400
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