WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot Untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 Radio network dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.280 kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.079 the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.480 over the fence, and they would dead once you hit 29 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.560 the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:45.640 was my dog coming over the fence. What are you reporting? 31 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:50.439 We got some wonder or something crawling around out here? 32 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.560 Did you see what it was? It enough out here looking. 33 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.359 I'm new to the window now and I don't need anything. 34 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:10.560 I don't want to go outside. Its fight. Hello, hit 35 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.120 the fuddy out here? What quent On Olter? I thought 36 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:16.199 of a bitch about text for nine? I don't know easy, 37 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.240 I'm out, Yeah, I'm walking right, heady. 38 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:20.919 I folks on to welcome our guest to the show. 39 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.800 It is Troy and Desi from Florida. 40 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.879 Welcome to the show. Troy, Hey, thank you very much. 41 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.319 Brian very happy to be here. I am glad to 42 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:30.759 have you. Desi, welcome to the show. 43 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:32.479 Thanks for having me. Brian. 44 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:36.000 I am glad to have you both. Since there's two 45 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:37.759 of you guys, we're gonna switch it up here. I'm 46 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.280 going to start with Troy and ask the million dollar 47 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:42.879 question I ask everybody I bring on the show, what 48 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:46.120 in the world got you interested in the subject of sasquatch? 49 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:50.319 To begin with, Wow, that's always a great question, Brian. 50 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.479 I was a hunter for jeez, since I was a child. 51 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.520 I grew up on a farm up in Connecticut, hunted 52 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.479 all my life. Moved to Florida. He's about thirty years ago, 53 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:05.599 my sixties now. Never really had any interest in bigfoot sasquatch. 54 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:10.199 I heard of it, thought of it. Never any interest, however, 55 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:13.719 down here in Florida, as I was hunting in this 56 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.360 one area, especially in twenty sixteen, that's when all started. 57 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:20.800 I was out there in the woods a lot, I'd 58 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:24.080 say at least twice a week in this one area. 59 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.240 I was scouting, setting up blinds, and putting up my 60 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.840 tree stands. When hunting season started, I would sit in 61 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.680 a tree stand, I'd get this really weird howl sound 62 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:39.199 off to the northwest of where my tree stand was located. 63 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.560 I couldn't figure it out. I would rotate my stands. 64 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.680 I sat in another stand, same general area. I heard 65 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.719 a grunt growl. It was a grunt that turned right 66 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:53.000 into a growl. So all these little weird things were happening. 67 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:56.680 Didn't know what they were. I was coming in again 68 00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:00.639 to my tree stand behind me, I'd say, maybe I 69 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:03.439 don't know. Let's say one hundred and ten feet. I 70 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:06.599 hear this huge thought boom and there was a two steps, 71 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.560 and I'm thinking, why would a hunter drop down out 72 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.759 of his tree stand behind me? I was looking. I 73 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.360 didn't see anything after that, didn't hear anything, But all 74 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.079 these little things added up. Then I went to the 75 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:22.000 first big conference down in Florida. It was at the 76 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.639 RP Funding Center. I ran into a group, I started 77 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:28.399 talking to them. Then we went out doing this stuff. 78 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.879 We didn't have an experience in finding tracks, and DESI did, 79 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:34.439 and that kind of kicked it all off for me. 80 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:37.839 I've been full in since then, basically given up hunting. 81 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.439 This is what I do now. It's intense. It definitely 82 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:42.040 sounds like it. 83 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.720 Desi, I want to ask you the same question, what 84 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:46.959 got you interested in the subject. 85 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.360 To begin with a little bit different than Troy's experience 86 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:54.399 Because being an avid hunter, an outdoorsman, he had that 87 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:56.879 opportunity to be shook by something that didn't really add 88 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.959 up or makes sense. I'm originally from western Pennsylvania. I 89 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:03.199 grew up in the eighties and nineties, and we spent 90 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.000 a lot of time out in the woods. Of course, 91 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.319 we were able to unplug. You weren't connected to sulphones 92 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:12.759 or social media, and time outside with everything to me, 93 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:16.560 my friends, my family. But nothing like that ever occurred 94 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.160 that made me give what's going on. I grew up 95 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.040 in a family that was very open minded to things 96 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:26.360 that may not be common or what we believed to 97 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:30.879 be average, everyday normal sayings. I had a grandfather on 98 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:34.480 my mom's side the family, a Polish grandfather who raised 99 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:39.800 us on folklore. So he would tell his stories about ghosts, 100 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:44.759 to see creatures, this assquatch, and aliens. He had theories 101 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:48.519 that I'm quite sure if there's a linkage between aliens 102 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.519 and Bigfoot, and you're just trying to process one first 103 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.480 the next, nevertheless combine them. Always just had that interest 104 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.480 from such a young age and never really left me. 105 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:03.199 The lord mystery behind those things that are not just 106 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:06.519 common every day are really just what drove me forward. 107 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:09.360 And spending as much time as I did growing up 108 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:13.279 in beautiful parts of the Alleghanies, the Lower Highlands near 109 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:15.800 the Chestnut Ridge area up there as well, which there's 110 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.600 been a lot of experiences in that side of Pennsylvania 111 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:22.560 that have been well documented and knocking the socks up 112 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.959 of many people. It is built into that culture up there, 113 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:30.040 that filling out the community. But nobody, and I mean 114 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.160 nobody that was in my age range wanted anything to 115 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.519 do with that stuff. That just wasn't something they were 116 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.480 interested in. Then, when I had an opportunity to move 117 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:41.399 to Florida, an opportunity to transition down here for work, 118 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.480 I just like Troy, saw some of the advertisements for 119 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.360 the conference on the news, had a chance to go 120 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.879 and meet a lot of people really quick at the 121 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.079 very first conference and everyone after that. You just see 122 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:56.680 how much bigger and bigger the community gets. A lot 123 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:58.879 of people come into it with their own kind of 124 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.879 idea of what they believe this may be, but there's 125 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:05.920 a lot of disagreement and discernment between those theories. So 126 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.519 you're looking for people that you'd share common interest with, 127 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:12.839 that you could agree most importantly, you get along with, 128 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.839 right So when try and I met. It was one 129 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.279 of those moments where you felt like you already knew 130 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.240 each other, so the conversation was very fluent. It was 131 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:24.279 probably a week or two later we ended up going 132 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.160 out and we have been triggered around since. Stars kind 133 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:31.040 of aligned with our relationship and our partnership. The things 134 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.399 we've experienced together, I can't imagine doing it with anyone else. 135 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:35.439 Who've been very blessed. 136 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.240 Let's get into those experiences. I'll throw it back to you, Troy. 137 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.160 Obviously you were a hunter. You had these experiences while 138 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:45.959 you're out hunting. Bigfoot wasn't really on your radar at 139 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.480 that point. But once it got to be on your radar, 140 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:50.759 you went to this conference, you met people like Daisy. 141 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:53.759 You guys start going out doing your thing. When did 142 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.199 you start having experiences when you went out looking for 143 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.160 these things? Was it automatic the first time you went out? 144 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.279 Did it take a while to get into an area. 145 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:05.120 Let's talk about where you guys were going, what you 146 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:06.680 were doing, and what you were experiencing. 147 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.839 Good question. Me and Desi hooked up. We went out 148 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:14.519 to the Green Swamp. It was really weird because, like 149 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:17.839 Desi said, we connected real fast. She calls me on 150 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:20.279 a Thursday night. She says, hey, I've got tomorrow off. 151 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:21.720 What do you want to do. I says, hey, yeah, 152 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:23.600 I can go out. So we went out early in 153 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.480 the morning. I think we met around at four thirty. 154 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:27.199 I think it was might have been four o'clock because 155 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.720 once we got there, we got our stuff together. This 156 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.320 was really the first time me and her went alone. 157 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.120 We get out of the car, get all our stuff together, 158 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.360 we start down this dirt road. Being a hunter, I'm 159 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.320 telling you, you just don't listen as closely as you 160 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:48.200 should for those odd sounds. You just don't. I blew 161 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.000 off so much stuff in the past, and when I 162 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.960 started having those experiences, I started thinking back and go, 163 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.879 wait a minute, there was something I think paralleling me 164 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.759 in the woods when I was hunting down at Bull Creek. 165 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:03.159 So we're in the green swamp and we're going through 166 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:07.720 the trail the path. There there's this whistle and I 167 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:11.240 blew it off as being maybe a bug or frog something, 168 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.159 it's nothing important. And Desi says to me, hey, that 169 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.399 sounds like a human whistle, and I'm like, no, I 170 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.120 don't think so, I don't think it's anything. We keep 171 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:23.720 on going down. Then the whistle comes again, and I go, 172 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:26.759 wait a minute. I think she's right, because now I'm 173 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:30.200 starting to listen closer. We continue down. We listen for 174 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.080 a little bit. We continue down. Now the whistle happens again, 175 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.519 but it has moved. It was toward northeast and then 176 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:41.000 it moved to the north. Now it's paralleling us. At 177 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:44.480 that point we stopped. I broke out my night vision, 178 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:47.240 which is an old Gen one night vision. We don't 179 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:49.879 have the equipment that we have today. Back then, I 180 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.559 wish we did the thermals and ill at night vision. 181 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:55.679 So I'm looking and I don't see anything. We waited 182 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:58.159 there for me about five minutes, trying to see if 183 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.840 we could see anything. But wistles had stopped, so they 184 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.360 moved from the north east north again. Now they're paralleling us. 185 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.759 We continue down the road again. We hear another whistle, 186 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.519 again parallel with us. We continue further. We hear another whistle, 187 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:16.279 and this is the critical part. I hear a whistle, 188 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:20.559 She hears the whistle. We hear a crack. Something stepped 189 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:23.279 on something that broke it and it was of heavy weight. 190 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:26.399 So now it's still dark. There's an owl, often of 191 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:28.799 distance you can barely hear them. There's no other noises. 192 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:30.639 Might have been a whipper, will I think it is, 193 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.559 And DESI says to me, Troy, what's this? And I 194 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:37.600 turn around on the ground. She's illuminating with her green 195 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.240 head lamp a footprint six and a half inches long 196 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:44.480 by three and a half inches wide. Obviously it would 197 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:47.879 have to be talking bigfoot juvenile. But if you take 198 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:51.600 that measurement and you measure your grandchild's feet, guess what. 199 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:55.200 They're six inches long, four years old, six inches long 200 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:58.320 by about two inches wide. And there's no other tracks. 201 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:03.240 So now we've got a small child's footprint in the dirt. 202 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:06.240 There's no other footprint around, no other human tracks, no 203 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:10.000 other animal tracks, nothing, And we end up finding nineteen 204 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.759 of them. But at that moment, that whistle that had 205 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:17.840 parallel us continued going west, So that really knocked my 206 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:21.600 socks off. It took me about three four days to 207 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:25.759 really process that, to really think, holy cow, this might 208 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:29.120 be the real deal. This is something important. And after 209 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:32.600 that one hundred percent in granted, until I see it, 210 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.799 I won't be one hundred percent yes they exist, So 211 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.120 I call myself eighty five percent until I see it, 212 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:40.320 then we'll be there. 213 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.159 Daisy, I want to talk to you about what you 214 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.879 were thinking, what was going through your brain when you 215 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:49.159 guys are hearing these whistles and it's moving around, Because 216 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:53.279 I tell you, what you're describing sounds almost identical to 217 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.600 what I experienced last summer when I had my three 218 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.200 sidings in two days out in the Pacific Northwest in 219 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:04.639 Washington State. We were getting these whistles. That's initially what 220 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.320 drew our attention to the areas that we ended up 221 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:10.919 looking and finding these creatures in Again, Deasy, I want 222 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:12.120 to throw it to you and talk a little bit 223 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:14.200 about what you were feeling in the moment when you 224 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:15.919 guys are walking out there in the dark, you're hearing 225 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:18.440 what sounds like a human whistle. Then you look down 226 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.559 and see this footprint. 227 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:25.080 When the whistles started, which were honestly the timing of 228 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:28.360 it all surely after we hit the trail is when 229 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:32.039 we heard the first whistle. In that first moment me 230 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:34.919 thinking it was a human, there is that level of 231 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:39.320 fear regarding our safety. Then real quick you're running through 232 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:42.240 things in your mind of what that could be. Then 233 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:46.080 also stepping back and thinking okay, we're the only cars 234 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.039 at the trail head. It is four thirty five am 235 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:53.360 on a Friday morning, meaning that people probably are not 236 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.080 up yet or it's a workday, so this area should 237 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.960 not be very heavily trafficked. If that is the case, 238 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.320 then they probably know that, so they may be passing through. 239 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.879 I'm thinking first and foremost the safety piece event. But 240 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.279 then it just clicks right in. With all your readings, 241 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.720 all your podcasts, listening all the documentaries you watch, you 242 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:15.360 know that there's a good handful of both say, main 243 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.559 pieces of possible evidence that could link to these beings. 244 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.559 So it hits you, and then it continues and you're thinking, Wow, 245 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:29.000 this Wiley sounds like a text scenario of right time, 246 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:35.159 great place for us, wrong time, wrong place for them. Right, 247 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:39.559 so they're probably signaling to something, But of course it's 248 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.200 still a lot to keep in mind, not knowing that 249 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:44.679 that's exactly what's going to happen to you. Not even 250 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:47.600 five minutes into getting on the trail, when we got 251 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:52.240 to the point of identifying the track, we use the 252 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.320 green headlamp a lot aforda looking at certain types of substrates, 253 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:58.639 and myself specifically, I like to keep it down by 254 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:00.960 my waist or buy my legs. It's just easier to 255 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.200 see a lot of times when we go out, I'm 256 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:06.159 looking down at the ground, he's looking forward with whatever 257 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.639 tech we're using at that time, or behind us, just 258 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.720 so we don't miss anything. But you do. You miss times. 259 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:13.600 There's no way you can capture all of this if 260 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:17.759 there's something there. But I could not believe it, honestly. 261 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.840 We have our audio, of course, recording the surprise in 262 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.000 our voice and the questioning of what are we looking 263 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:26.679 at right now, which is very authentic because it was 264 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:29.720 mind blowing. Like I said, if you've done your research 265 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.840 and you're really into this type of field, this seems 266 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.639 way too good to be true. The only other thing 267 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:38.840 is if you want to have a sighting and you 268 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.399 want that experience, that is the top notch, right, that's 269 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.480 the Holy Girl. This was as close as I think 270 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.480 we could get to it besides from the sighting. So 271 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:50.399 trying to connect those stops and in a way with 272 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.039 somebody that's possible eighty five percent believer now to relate 273 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:57.480 that to him and also honor his beliefs at the 274 00:14:57.519 --> 00:14:58.120 same time. 275 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.639 Tune for more sasquatch out to sea. We're right back 276 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:04.399 after these messages. 277 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.600 Because maybe you have a chance to learn more about 278 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:13.399 us through this or other outlets. We compliment each other. 279 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:15.559 It's like a whole brain between the both of us, 280 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.559 which is why it worked so well together. But when 281 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.240 we saw that track and we heard the last crack break, 282 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.799 something heavy hitting in the ground and it continue off, 283 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:27.039 I really didn't know what we were supposed to do. 284 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:29.000 Then do we stop? 285 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:29.399 Now? 286 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:32.320 Do we document? Do we follow those whistles? We follow 287 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:35.519 that commotion. It is quiet until you start hearing some 288 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:37.639 of this morning birds come up, and then the sun 289 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:40.519 slowly starts rising. Before we knew it, Brian, the sun 290 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:44.559 was starting to come up. We slowly saw everything through 291 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:48.759 the green light disappear because the sun was taking it 292 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.399 away from that trail. It just would have been impossible 293 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.000 to see during the daylight if you didn't know it 294 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.320 was already there. So much is going through your mind 295 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.360 trying to figure out what is the best next step, 296 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:01.679 because if you're not in that position or you happy 297 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:03.919 Bee rehearsed it, which we've learned a lot from that 298 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.000 moment what we could do better right and leaned on 299 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.080 some great resources in the process. You never can be 300 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.200 too prepared. So a lot of things happened from that 301 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:17.000 moment forward, but we took that experience and documented everything 302 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:19.559 we could find. It was like six to seven hours 303 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:23.879 worth of documentation over a very short amount of square footage. 304 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:27.240 But we were just hitting the trail heard for lack 305 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:29.320 of better terms, to make sure we didn't miss anything. 306 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.440 Should we have tasted along the tree line, we'd never 307 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:35.000 catch up to it. We'd have to go through a 308 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:38.000 palmetto field, which would have been a bear trying to 309 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.960 get through there without thawing in holes getting injured. Even 310 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:44.679 though it was over three years ago this past April, 311 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:48.120 everything is still so vivid of what happened that morning, 312 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:49.840 both auditory and visually. 313 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:53.039 KNY. One more thing, very important point that I forgot 314 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:55.399 to put in there is that the tracks that we found, 315 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.399 they were heading east on that trail. They stopped, turned 316 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.600 around and started heading back west. So what we think 317 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.400 was our theory is that the whistles were warning to 318 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:10.359 the little ones that were out on the road out 319 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.079 on that trail, playing around or whatever they are doing, 320 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:16.039 that listen, we've got some issues going on, or there's 321 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:19.079 people here. And they turned around and went back, now 322 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.200 my experience with hunting, I've seen the bobcats do it. 323 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.279 I've seen red fox do it. What they'll do is 324 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:27.400 the fox will come up, they'll do a little growl, 325 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.759 and the little ones will head off back into the 326 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.720 woods some previous location. Same with a bobcat. They'll make 327 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:37.119 that little growl, they'll head off. So we were suspecting 328 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:38.480 the same thing happened here. 329 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:40.799 I'm so glad you said that, because if that's where 330 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:42.759 I was about to go with my questioning, I was 331 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.359 going to throw it back to you and ask you this. 332 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.119 This is one of these things that has baffled me 333 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.480 about these creatures, because, as I said, we had a 334 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.599 very similar experience with the whistling when we were out 335 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.480 in the Pacific Northwest last summer. Had these things not 336 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:02.519 brought our attention to them by making these noises, these sounds, 337 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:05.440 these whistles, we would have never known they were there. 338 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.720 And this happened so many times, and so many of 339 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:13.880 these encounters. It'll huff, it'll growl, it will bring something 340 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:17.480 to the table that brings attention to these creatures. It 341 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:21.119 has always fascinated me that they are the hide and 342 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:24.240 seek champions that's the joke, that's the T shirt. Everybody's 343 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:28.279 seen it on a bumper sticker. Yet, in order for 344 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.279 most people to have their experiences where they actually get 345 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:35.400 to see these creatures, they put themselves in positions or 346 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:40.519 in situations where it's unavoidable. Have you given any thought 347 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:43.279 to that? I think you've already answered the question about 348 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:46.960 what you think happened, But was that your immediate go to? 349 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.319 Did you have that moment where you said, why in 350 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:51.559 the hell were these things whistling? Because we would have 351 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:54.039 never known they were around if they weren't making these noises. 352 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:55.799 Did that go through your mind or did you just 353 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:58.920 automatically go to I've seen that with other animals, and 354 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:00.000 I think this is what they're doing. 355 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:03.200 So what happened with me is that as we are 356 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.200 going through this whole process, hearing the sounds and finding 357 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:09.519 the tracks, putting all the evidence together at the end, 358 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.039 it just came into a theory. Of course you want 359 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.759 to throw in the animal behavior because you would do it, 360 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.000 you'd whistle what typically I have seen and you look 361 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:20.920 at most of this evidence that you see what typically 362 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:25.839 happens when you do see this a sasquatch, either a 363 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:28.400 juvenile or a young one has made a mistake, is 364 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:31.599 out there goofing around, and then the adult has to 365 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.319 jump in and do something, make the whistles, they show 366 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:37.680 itself to correct it, to save that little one, or 367 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.519 possibly if they're feeding, if they're starving, they've got to 368 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:42.799 go out. They have to get out there and do something, 369 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:45.960 or they just make a basic mistake. Their mind's not there. 370 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:49.319 I've seen that in animals, and it's rare. You take 371 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:51.920 a buck, a swamp buck, they're going to get into 372 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:55.440 the deepest area, the most isolated area, and they'll try 373 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.799 to stay within that area for a long time. And 374 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.440 you can tell by the antlers, especially, don't old buck. 375 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:02.680 The antlers are dark, and the reason they're dark is 376 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.240 that the sun doesn't hit them and bleach it out. 377 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:08.279 So the younger ones, you'll see, they're more bleached because 378 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:11.720 they're out there and they're hunting around. The swamp bucks 379 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.400 are staying deep inside the shadows, so they're going to 380 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.319 be making mistakes and that's when you're going to catch them. 381 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:19.839 It's going to be a young one's food. Maybe mating season. 382 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:22.599 We don't know anything about their mating habits yet, but 383 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:24.079 that could be a possibility as well. 384 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:27.240 Does the same question for you, Have you given thought 385 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:30.559 to what was going on with the whistles? Why they 386 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:33.960 do these things that make it impossible not to see 387 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:35.279 them or experience them. 388 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:39.200 That's another great question what Troy said about the animal behavior, Like, 389 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:41.759 that's really what we're trying to identify, right, so we 390 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.559 can predict what may happen at a certain location based 391 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.359 on maybe experiences or frequency, or just the perfect combination 392 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.119 of different data. I think there were two things that 393 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:55.599 probably went through. Remind at the time we started hearing 394 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:59.359 the whistles, were the whistles drawing attention, so we went 395 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:04.000 towards and not continued. Now, if we both had not 396 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.680 that those were authentic, we still don't know. But we 397 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:11.559 feel pretty darn good that they were sasquatched whistles because 398 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.200 of the other things that followed then the other audio experience. 399 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:17.119 But if we were on the same page of that moment, 400 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:20.279 knowing the two of us, we were gone that direction. 401 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:23.440